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Speaker 1: Welcome to All the Smoke, a production of The Black

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Speaker 1: Effect and our Heart Radio in partnership with Showtime m

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Speaker 1: Welcome back All the Smoke l A edition. Jack. What's happening, Baby?

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Speaker 1: We're doing it and we're gonna keep doing it. Man,

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Speaker 1: it's been a nice it's been a nice couple of days. Man.

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Speaker 1: I guess if you mean showed up and showed out,

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Speaker 1: it will be is only getting better. Today will be

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Speaker 1: no different. My brother's sacrament is very own. Yeah, come

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Speaker 1: on the nine one six mars Man. First off, congratulations

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Speaker 1: are in order. You just saw in CMG congrat relations.

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Speaker 1: Tell us the how did that come about? Co came

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Speaker 1: money Gang? You know we damn they're biologically related to

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Speaker 1: my people. So, uh you know it wasn't forced. Something

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Speaker 1: happened naturally. I've been in communication with the Big Dog

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Speaker 1: for a minute now. He didn't bring me out, I'm

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Speaker 1: saying on a summer jam way back before I even popped,

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Speaker 1: I think, and uh, you know, he's just been He

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Speaker 1: always told me, you know, it's it's room for you

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Speaker 1: over here. But I had my own thing going on.

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Speaker 1: I got right, got my ship together and then pulled

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Speaker 1: up in a function with him. What I'm saying. What

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Speaker 1: was the first thing you said when you heard you

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Speaker 1: can't wait for me? Get on one of them? Uhiyeh

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Speaker 1: beats Yeah, come on you in the STG. Yeah you

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Speaker 1: know I'm gonna bite down down two bro? What what

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Speaker 1: what it's like? I know the last couple years been

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Speaker 1: crazy for everybody, but you're back working, everybody back moving around.

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Speaker 1: Um you untreated Trump? You know what I'm saying. What

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Speaker 1: else is going on? How you starting off? Gangster party spending,

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Speaker 1: gangster party lit far as I'm concerned, Uh, new bag

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Speaker 1: most definitely important. Yeah. So you know they always followed

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Speaker 1: beyond a new real estate. So that's what I've been

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Speaker 1: browsing on. I can't stop looking at real estate. I've

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Speaker 1: been on uh every damn there, every site, UM functional

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Speaker 1: with just trying to find something dope, some type of

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Speaker 1: muti unit property sou. But outside of that, I just

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Speaker 1: had a family orientated, just functioning with the girly faced

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Speaker 1: gang and uh getting to it, getting to it just

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Speaker 1: you know, I feel rejuvenated with this new deal and

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Speaker 1: uh just excited. Yeah for sure, for sure. What's like?

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Speaker 1: What's their life like a little bit not for show?

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Speaker 1: But you know it's since a young and always wanted

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Speaker 1: to I always wanted you know, just some type since

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Speaker 1: now that I'm blessed with that, Uh, just overly excited

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Speaker 1: about that spelling be We're waking up five o'clock in

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Speaker 1: the morning, I'm on the line when they lean you

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Speaker 1: check it out on top of the grades, you know,

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Speaker 1: we stand on top of them about that grade. Some

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Speaker 1: school parenting, I remind me of my grandmother so much,

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Speaker 1: just the way I operate in that field. And I'm saying,

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Speaker 1: I remember when when I got in trouble at school,

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Speaker 1: Granny cut my hair. I was devastated. Yeah, that's the

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Speaker 1: worst she made a nigger where uh you know what

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Speaker 1: I'm saying, to beat up shoes to school where no more,

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Speaker 1: ain't no fly, none of that until you get you

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Speaker 1: get raised in order. And that's kind of what I've

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Speaker 1: been doing with my eight year old. Like check it out.

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Speaker 1: We wear a uniform at a nine uniform school. We're

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Speaker 1: L backpacks. We're gonna go get this jam sport playing

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Speaker 1: on what I'm saying yeah, so not, but it's it's dope.

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Speaker 1: Like I said, I got girls, two girls, so you know,

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Speaker 1: I call him the Grillly Face Gang, and uh it's

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Speaker 1: just it's a it's a sensitive operation, straight up. And

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Speaker 1: he got some girls too, So I got all boys, fella,

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Speaker 1: I mean not one six representative Oak Park, Sacramento pops.

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Speaker 1: You know, grew up in the streets. Mom had her issues.

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Speaker 1: So you're, as you mentioned, your grandmother raised you. What

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Speaker 1: was that like for you? Dope? But bringing grandmother was

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Speaker 1: always stable, so she had her ship legitimate. So it

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Speaker 1: was never like I was switching houses and I'm saying

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Speaker 1: all I known was old part from preschool, I mean

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Speaker 1: off the dribble, militant. Uh work that's all she preached. Work. Work, work.

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Speaker 1: That was her favorite folk letter word. So I think

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Speaker 1: she ship just like I said, she was just it

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Speaker 1: Just what I'm saying, being rebellious up until I was

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Speaker 1: I got around of these two for sure, most definitely.

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Speaker 1: And just like I said, I understood the stability and

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Speaker 1: like that type of ship on transpiring minds everything just

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Speaker 1: legit smooth is a program and um, but like I said,

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Speaker 1: I see myself the way I function with my young

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Speaker 1: it's kind of like identical the way to the way

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Speaker 1: she's functioned with me. Starting to rap game young first

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Speaker 1: little first name in the game was a little tim

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Speaker 1: So how you get in the rap game? And how

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Speaker 1: the first name come about? I heard a s on

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Speaker 1: Doggy Dog and Dr Drell. That was my ship early,

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Speaker 1: so uh right then and there I knew I wanted

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Speaker 1: my peers. I think they was twins too, and Uh,

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Speaker 1: they performed and after that, I'm like, I could do that,

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Speaker 1: whole nine yard. So I'm like, I'm gonna tweak on that.

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Speaker 1: Just started tweaking on it. On top of music already

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Speaker 1: being in my household heavy Pops you know, I mean

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Speaker 1: writing and singing Hunkey in the pin, but he used

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Speaker 1: to be somewhat of a rapper, um and uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: so I just took I took to it easy. It

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Speaker 1: was easy man, the pocket guy study most. I mean,

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Speaker 1: my favorite rapper all times. When did your love and

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Speaker 1: appreciation for him start from the get go? Dear Mama,

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Speaker 1: Dear mama, just going through whatever I was going through

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Speaker 1: Like I said, raised by Grahams, so of course, and

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Speaker 1: used to go visit her every weekend. But it was

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Speaker 1: like that was my dream as in youngest used to

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Speaker 1: be with moms. Um. I wasn't too much weird about

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Speaker 1: Pops because he was fake, way strict, you know what

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Speaker 1: the pin I was, I was celebrating. I'm saying you

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Speaker 1: hearing me, but yeah, I just wanted to be with moms.

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Speaker 1: So when I heard Dear Mama, it just really touched

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Speaker 1: me at an early age and I was like, nigga,

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Speaker 1: a's he crazy? And then on top of Graham, she

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Speaker 1: functioned with him heavy, posters, books, um, recorded interviews. You know,

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Speaker 1: she loved that was you know, he all around her

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Speaker 1: you know, it was it was she She maximized on

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Speaker 1: on on his words. And uh yeah, she had her

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Speaker 1: own books. I used to steal her books and be

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Speaker 1: reading this ship you feel me? So, um, yeah, I

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Speaker 1: functioned with pot heavy, but I think it was the

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Speaker 1: Dear Mama was really captivating me. Or than Park you

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Speaker 1: who you were listening to growing up? Jacker The Jacker

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Speaker 1: are messy, Marv You see Marv. Uh you know that's

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Speaker 1: when I got the smell of my gangster, so them

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Speaker 1: on that type of time. But before that, it was

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Speaker 1: The beast Um and then people within my neighborhood. I

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Speaker 1: was heavily influenced by people within my neighborhood. Music. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: she was a similar I mean, I'm a little bit

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Speaker 1: Internet wasn't booming like that. So it was just whatever

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Speaker 1: what they So the furthest we went was the Bay Area.

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Speaker 1: That's where you get Jack and Messy more from keep

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Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And you know, but we

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Speaker 1: were part of the Bay Area market, so that that

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Speaker 1: on a political aspect. The child was was the glory

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Speaker 1: with a page of Stoagravitch fella and how do you

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Speaker 1: But back in the days like that was just that

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Speaker 1: What I'm saying, William, Yeah, web phone, hear me Storyakovic,

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Speaker 1: because I was a UCLA during that time, so obviously

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Speaker 1: growing up a Laker fan. But then you know, the

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Speaker 1: this Georgias diction for a minute. So yeah, I mean

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Speaker 1: I'll be I'm frequent the Lakers game, but I'm still

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Speaker 1: naturally a king at at heart. What I'm saying gonna

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Speaker 1: go down with them, it would go down with just cowboys. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: y'all feeling pain across the boarder, yea, it's good taking

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Speaker 1: on the chair, feeling pain across the board. When did

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Speaker 1: uh come up with the name Marthy with that derived

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Speaker 1: from masi? Uh, Mazzarella Mavolaro. I was just in a

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Speaker 1: super creative time, feel me again, yeah, Mazarella Varo, I was.

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Speaker 1: I was just super creative in him time sentner before

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Speaker 1: Mars was eyes eyes as it was the EyeSi is.

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Speaker 1: So you can just see right there that I was

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Speaker 1: just tweaked out. But nah my, aunty, I think I

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Speaker 1: named I named the puppy of minds Mazy Mazzarella and

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Speaker 1: then my Aunty just started calling me Marsy. So you know,

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Speaker 1: once Aunty started, you know she it stuck when aunt

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Speaker 1: I gave it a meaning money over zeris ain't younger

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Speaker 1: I sound left with like fifteen thousand. So that was many.

423
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Speaker 1: But what was the first question up to somebody in

424
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Speaker 1: the at Kendrick Glamore? And you know, I think he

425
00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:07,720
Speaker 1: started rapping sleepwalking. I couldn't believe it. Come on, k

426
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Speaker 1: dot sleepwalking nigga word for word, Well you know who

427
00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:17,560
Speaker 1: I am. Come on, it's a gangster party. So yeah,

428
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Speaker 1: most definitely. Now, so he shouted you out in this

429
00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:24,600
Speaker 1: Grammy speech. Obviously that kind of opened your eyes thinking, like,

430
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Speaker 1: you know, it's one of the you know, Eminem just

431
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Speaker 1: named him one of the greatest lyricists in his opinion,

432
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Speaker 1: one of the greatest lyricists of all time. So bumping

433
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Speaker 1: with Kendrick, you end up on the legendary Black Panther

434
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Speaker 1: soundtrack MANIALU. That was a manial you crazy granny got

435
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Speaker 1: to see that. You know, she didn't check out on

436
00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:48,040
Speaker 1: this due to cancer. Yeah before that. She got to

437
00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:50,800
Speaker 1: see that, and that was big for you. That was big.

438
00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:54,240
Speaker 1: That was one of my biggest accomplishments outside of tearing

439
00:24:54,359 --> 00:25:01,080
Speaker 1: or off them chicken McNuggets the world. But she got

440
00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:03,199
Speaker 1: to see that. She went and she didn't you know,

441
00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:05,720
Speaker 1: I ain't prepper for it. It wasn't like I'm in

442
00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:08,680
Speaker 1: a movie. I made my song in the moved, none

443
00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:11,119
Speaker 1: of that. She went to go see what the fam

444
00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:14,760
Speaker 1: just you know. I mean, yeah, she came home and

445
00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:18,880
Speaker 1: was just in tears. Whole squad just like it's crazy.

446
00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:21,600
Speaker 1: Not only is we on the soundtrack. I think I

447
00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:24,120
Speaker 1: told her about the soundtrack, but I didn't tell her

448
00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:26,320
Speaker 1: I was in a movie. I kept that. I'm saying

449
00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:30,159
Speaker 1: the sleepwalking in the actual movie. So that was that

450
00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:34,640
Speaker 1: was big. That was monumental. It's funny, I mean because

451
00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:37,119
Speaker 1: it's funny because like I fought with your miss with

452
00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:39,919
Speaker 1: this our first time meeting. Yeah, I mean, like you

453
00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:41,760
Speaker 1: talking about your grandmother, like I was saying, I was

454
00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:43,919
Speaker 1: able to put up bricks from my grandmother post. She passed.

455
00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:46,880
Speaker 1: All the stuff you're saying, it's resonating. I can see

456
00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:58,000
Speaker 1: why I with your music. What I'm saying, Yeah, any

457
00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:00,879
Speaker 1: piece of advice Kendrell gave me that that sticks with

458
00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:03,920
Speaker 1: you or anything you saw in him that that that

459
00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:06,800
Speaker 1: that just made him special in your eyes. Now, I

460
00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:09,879
Speaker 1: ain't gonna lie. Just him knowing my music, okay, just

461
00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:12,959
Speaker 1: him knowing that alone, that was like I was like,

462
00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:15,800
Speaker 1: I was mind blowed. I couldn't believe it. Like I

463
00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:19,320
Speaker 1: went home. I went home and told everybody about that.

464
00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:22,439
Speaker 1: And you know that ship and then the alley oops,

465
00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:27,160
Speaker 1: the unlimited Alley oops. And I'm saying, um, he did

466
00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:31,280
Speaker 1: tell me something. He told me that They said, you know,

467
00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:34,920
Speaker 1: I'm big dog where I'm from. He's saying, talking about itself,

468
00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:37,800
Speaker 1: I'm big dog where I'm from. But nigga, all my

469
00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:41,480
Speaker 1: niggas love you. He like, you know, they function with

470
00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:43,040
Speaker 1: me or whatever in case you know what I mean.

471
00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:46,120
Speaker 1: But they want to hear that MARSI feel me eight

472
00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:49,119
Speaker 1: and when that that's what they that that ship touched

473
00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:52,160
Speaker 1: him and he like, uh, you know that's as as

474
00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:55,520
Speaker 1: big bro like as you're on a different level, and

475
00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:57,560
Speaker 1: that just kind of sucked. Me up because I know

476
00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:00,920
Speaker 1: exactly what he's saying. I understand. You know, he comes

477
00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:03,480
Speaker 1: from the same terrain we come from. So for him

478
00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:06,399
Speaker 1: to just acknowledge that and and and pass me the

479
00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:09,600
Speaker 1: typical type of flowers. Nigga, that was lit. I'll run

480
00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:12,840
Speaker 1: with that. Anybody you looking forward to working with it,

481
00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:15,600
Speaker 1: you haven't got a chance to work with you. I

482
00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:20,600
Speaker 1: funk with the baby he fucked. He fucked it up. Uh,

483
00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:26,480
Speaker 1: of course, Dreight Future. I don't know how this nigga.

484
00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:34,640
Speaker 1: Kanye ain't put me on Donna. I funk with everybody. Man.

485
00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:37,480
Speaker 1: You know, I ain't biased. I'm I'm, I'm creative. I

486
00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:40,600
Speaker 1: function with the whole industry. Um, it's dope just to

487
00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:44,240
Speaker 1: see African Americans running up these type of bags. And

488
00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:47,719
Speaker 1: you know, I'm saying me like, you're no longer as

489
00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:50,480
Speaker 1: it ain't it ain't you ain't got nothing to do

490
00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:54,720
Speaker 1: with no you know, politics to turn you into a hater, politics, attorney.

491
00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:59,639
Speaker 1: It's everywhere. So as long as there ain't no political strain,

492
00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:04,640
Speaker 1: n I'm I'm, I'm funking with people. We came down

493
00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:07,360
Speaker 1: to the end of the show. We got quick hitters.

494
00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:09,000
Speaker 1: First thing to come to mind. Let us know if

495
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:12,920
Speaker 1: you could be remembered by any bar or lyric thus

496
00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:16,160
Speaker 1: far in your career, what would it be. Oh, that's

497
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:20,480
Speaker 1: a good one. We didn't came a long way, traveled

498
00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:24,480
Speaker 1: down the wrong way. Ain't final showcases. Thankful for the

499
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Speaker 1: colde case. Yeah, Thankful for the prostitute assuming that we

500
00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:33,400
Speaker 1: soul mate. Thankful for the big homies coached me through

501
00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:40,240
Speaker 1: the dope game. Ship like that. Yeah. Top five Cally

502
00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:43,800
Speaker 1: Rappers all time, Top five Calli rappers. They always whoop

503
00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:46,960
Speaker 1: on me with this one. Niggas be mad. I'd be like, Nigga,

504
00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:50,800
Speaker 1: that's my top five. Chill what I'm saying. Let me

505
00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:56,760
Speaker 1: do my ship, bro. I mean, but oh, you know,

506
00:28:56,800 --> 00:29:00,320
Speaker 1: we're gonna have to go with Jack. I think last

507
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:02,560
Speaker 1: time I did that, I forgot to add him on

508
00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:05,120
Speaker 1: the list. So I'm gonna get him out the way immediately,

509
00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:08,600
Speaker 1: just because I did something to my spirit um and

510
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:11,240
Speaker 1: he didn't help me grow through my little adolescents years,

511
00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:13,880
Speaker 1: through the most important years, you know them years where

512
00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:17,120
Speaker 1: you jump off the porch, where you outside he I mean,

513
00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:19,760
Speaker 1: even when you go to jail and you think about lyrics,

514
00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:23,760
Speaker 1: certain lyrics to get you through them. Them times. Um,

515
00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:28,800
Speaker 1: he provided them from me pop most definitely pot fella.

516
00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:32,520
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying in the household, everybody let

517
00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:41,040
Speaker 1: that nigga everybody Um of course snoop because he started

518
00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:43,520
Speaker 1: this ship from me. You know what I'm saying, He

519
00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:47,120
Speaker 1: started this gamester ship from me. Um. That was one

520
00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:49,520
Speaker 1: of the reasons why you know, I'm saying they even

521
00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:53,520
Speaker 1: merged into this then we got uh not to cut

522
00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:55,560
Speaker 1: you off. But he laid on that count for two

523
00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:57,120
Speaker 1: and a half hours while he was an interview on

524
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Speaker 1: them what he smoked about ten Blood but laying though

525
00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:09,720
Speaker 1: that's the Feller triples a little to that movie just

526
00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:16,120
Speaker 1: busted to Row headed death row K died. Know he

527
00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:18,880
Speaker 1: wanted them guys, you know, I mean, we can't overlook

528
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:22,360
Speaker 1: that ship. And uh, you know I didn't want to.

529
00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:25,400
Speaker 1: I gotta my dog, nigga. This is he one of

530
00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:27,720
Speaker 1: them fellas. If you let me tell it that nigga

531
00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:33,600
Speaker 1: mars they can function up with it kind of. This

532
00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:36,400
Speaker 1: rap ship is scared of that nigging that booth. I'm

533
00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:44,880
Speaker 1: telling you Blood one album you could listen to, no skiffs,

534
00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:49,320
Speaker 1: one album I slap all the way through, no skips.

535
00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:52,720
Speaker 1: I gotta give it to the nigga E s T.

536
00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:56,760
Speaker 1: That s T album, That's that's, that's this, this this

537
00:30:56,840 --> 00:31:01,120
Speaker 1: dude for a week. Yeah, it on a seven o'clock

538
00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:03,720
Speaker 1: in the morning bringing like damn Jake. We can't go

539
00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:11,440
Speaker 1: right into the streets. But it's free Lucci to funk

540
00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:14,120
Speaker 1: with the fun with the felly he got. He got

541
00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:16,320
Speaker 1: a couple of the motherfucker's I just let play all

542
00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:18,480
Speaker 1: the way through. The one y'all did with Jay Stone's

543
00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:24,840
Speaker 1: Crazy Love. Yeah, yeah, it's crazy too. Courtside tickets to

544
00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:27,960
Speaker 1: any game in history, all right, So they already had

545
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:30,479
Speaker 1: me at the Clippers shout out the Clippers. Didn't put

546
00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:32,800
Speaker 1: me on the court nigga ten times and they got

547
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:37,120
Speaker 1: letther Clippers. And I'm saying, uh, but you know I've

548
00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:40,680
Speaker 1: been on course side Sacramento. What I'm saying, I was

549
00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:43,640
Speaker 1: mad thing put me on the big screen. It was lightweight. Hey,

550
00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:48,000
Speaker 1: nigger nine sixteen, y'all quit doing that, ship man, one

551
00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:50,360
Speaker 1: of them guys. They're gonna let them politics. You know

552
00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:53,320
Speaker 1: what I'm seeing me, don't do that. Didn't do that,

553
00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:58,000
Speaker 1: but course side course sunny game in history, any game

554
00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:00,320
Speaker 1: in history. Yeah, you gotta you gotta see me on

555
00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:02,720
Speaker 1: the floor with Jordan and them. Yeah, you gotta shot

556
00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:06,560
Speaker 1: on the floor with Jordan and them. Yeah you got.

557
00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:12,200
Speaker 1: I was around for that. I was, I was paying it.

558
00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:14,320
Speaker 1: You know. I ain't gonna lie. I wanted to play

559
00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:17,760
Speaker 1: basketball before this rap ship. But I got the high

560
00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:22,280
Speaker 1: school and realized that niggas was dunking. And I remember

561
00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:24,560
Speaker 1: Nigga told me, Nick, you got handles, nigger, but your

562
00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:28,120
Speaker 1: jumper off, so he kind of threw me off. From there,

563
00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:34,160
Speaker 1: I'm like all that, but I was hot sauce and

564
00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:36,640
Speaker 1: one that from the and one era, so I thought

565
00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:39,000
Speaker 1: handles was gonna get me there. I thought Ai just

566
00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:41,080
Speaker 1: had handles. I ain't know he had. He was a

567
00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:46,880
Speaker 1: total package. But not for show. But yeah, so yeah,

568
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:49,680
Speaker 1: I think I do a Bulls gang Bulls and yeah

569
00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:52,560
Speaker 1: I like the Bulls in Utah. Yeah. On the question, man,

570
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:56,560
Speaker 1: if you could pick a guess to be on our show,

571
00:32:57,520 --> 00:32:59,640
Speaker 1: who would it be? But you have to help us

572
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:02,680
Speaker 1: get your answer on the show. I got to Yeah,

573
00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:08,440
Speaker 1: I know somebody already. I don't know who you're thinking,

574
00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:11,440
Speaker 1: but I know I'm thinking, Oh, if I put a nigga,

575
00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:15,360
Speaker 1: I sitting nigga right here, on this purple velvet, sitting

576
00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:20,000
Speaker 1: nigga right here on this purple velvet. Huh oh, you

577
00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:23,400
Speaker 1: ain't got traded truth on here. That's my boy. To

578
00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:25,360
Speaker 1: that fan from the same area, Man, come on, get

579
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:27,920
Speaker 1: my nigga. Trade the truth up here. Man. We're talking

580
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:30,880
Speaker 1: about good game and is um and wisdom and ship man.

581
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:33,640
Speaker 1: Stick that nigga. Trade the truth up here, man, because

582
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:36,680
Speaker 1: that's somebody I can really I'm saying, participating and getting

583
00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:39,720
Speaker 1: up here, big brother function with me saying what I'm saying.

584
00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:41,760
Speaker 1: I didn't want to throw a name out there, Roger,

585
00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:47,160
Speaker 1: yeah saying in the text, and they don't really appreciate

586
00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:52,360
Speaker 1: somebody I can really get. Yeah, well, man, we appreciated.

587
00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:56,120
Speaker 1: Congratulations on the new deal, blessed. Continue to be a

588
00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:58,640
Speaker 1: great father man. And man, I'm I'm proud of you man.

589
00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:00,840
Speaker 1: Being from out that way, it's you know, very few

590
00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:03,560
Speaker 1: of us to really really get out for sure. You're

591
00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:05,200
Speaker 1: definitely doing it now. Man, So we just want to

592
00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:07,400
Speaker 1: come into that. Man, keep doing your thing. Good looking

593
00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:15,319
Speaker 1: on all the smoker. Motherfucker you can catch forget man.

594
00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:18,440
Speaker 1: We gotta give kid bro, yeah my phone. We come

595
00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:22,520
Speaker 1: bear to kids, kill the kids. I want all the smoke.

596
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:25,680
Speaker 1: We can't do that. I want all the smoke and

597
00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:30,360
Speaker 1: glide travel smoke that store. I want to go get it.

598
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:32,799
Speaker 1: But bro, you know we can't do that. I gotta

599
00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:35,200
Speaker 1: gotta leave you with something. Come on, I'm going to

600
00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:40,720
Speaker 1: utilize this motherfucker. I'm gonna stick and hunting this motherfucker.

601
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:45,719
Speaker 1: Okay in your pocket? Yeah no, I need a hunt

602
00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:53,920
Speaker 1: of ms. Just good looking, good ship, appreciate, appreciate your time. Man.

603
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:56,600
Speaker 1: Well that's a wrap. You can catch this on Showtime Basketball,

604
00:34:56,680 --> 00:35:00,680
Speaker 1: YouTube and the Heart platform Black Effects. We'll see you

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Speaker 1: all next week. This is All a Smoke, a production

606
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:07,320
Speaker 1: of The Black Effect and our Heart Radio in partnership

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Speaker 1: with Showtime