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Speaker 1: Warning.

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Speaker 2: On today's episode of XRGC, we're gonna talk about Ghost

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Speaker 2: of Yo Tai. We're gonna be talking about tron Ares

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Speaker 2: and good Boy.

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Speaker 3: Hello you, and I'm rasy Night and welcome to XRGC,

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Speaker 3: the X Ray Vision Group CHATO weekly round table with

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Speaker 3: our producers and or special guests to talk about all

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Speaker 3: the things.

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Speaker 2: That we are super excited about in pop culture.

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Speaker 4: In today's episode, we have both super producers and special guests.

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Speaker 4: And in segment one we will be calling in Aaron

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Speaker 4: and Aaron and Jason will be talking about Ghost of

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Speaker 4: Yota before we have an interview with the incredibly talented

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Speaker 4: voice actor who brings to life the main character ought

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Speaker 4: to and then Aaron, he's back and he's gonna be

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Speaker 4: talking about tron As and and we made him do.

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Speaker 5: It, We made him want to talk about it. He's

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Speaker 5: the only person who has seen it.

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Speaker 4: And this is uh maybe a new segment called Sacrificial

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Speaker 4: Lamb who knows truly like the Canaria the cool one.

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Speaker 2: He says, guys, don't come in.

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Speaker 4: You know what, you know what He's He's gonna be

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Speaker 4: for once with a with a very very medium take

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Speaker 4: that everybody is agreeing with in Hollywood at least uh

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Speaker 4: and segment three I would bring him in Joel and

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Speaker 4: Carmen for a scream Queen's look at the incredible new

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Speaker 4: horror movie that is very unique Good Boy. Then, of

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Speaker 4: course thanks, It's Friday, woof woof, and everyone.

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Speaker 5: Will show it there. Most excited to do this weekend.

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Speaker 5: But first let's bring in Aaron for Ghost of Yota.

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Speaker 6: Hello, I I'm very excited to talk about one of

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Speaker 6: two topics today.

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Speaker 2: He First of all, I want to I want to

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Speaker 2: note that I'm I'm in New York City for New

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Speaker 2: York Comic conton uh and so I'm sorry if the

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Speaker 2: sound is different for the folks. I'm in a hotel

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Speaker 2: room that is very nice. It is so small I

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Speaker 2: can't see it on my camera right now, but that's

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Speaker 2: the bed.

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Speaker 4: I've stayed in that hotel, definitely, I've stayed in that

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Speaker 2: Very sad to be away from my PlayStation in this

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Speaker 2: early days of Go. And I'm and I'm shouts out

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Speaker 2: to Donna, my dog who's with the dog sitter. Shout

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Speaker 2: out to the dog sitter. Who's doing a wonderful job,

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Speaker 2: and sent me a suite of pictures last night of

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Speaker 2: Donna on a walk, including Donna unleashed inside a Vond's.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I need to go that part of LA and

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Speaker 4: see Donna and.

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Speaker 2: Dona's on the boy, Donna's at leash in the frozen

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Speaker 4: Donna's like, this is me on my own exploring adventure.

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Speaker 5: This is Dona's Ghost of Viote.

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Speaker 2: She's gonna be completely She's gonna have different expectations when

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Speaker 2: I get home. But speaking of expectations, Eric, what were

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Speaker 2: your expectations of Ghost of Yote and how do you

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Speaker 6: I think I was expecting to enjoy it. I don't

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Speaker 6: think I was expecting it to be so beautifully set

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Speaker 6: up Allah, Like when you finish the first thing, you

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Speaker 6: step out and it feels like breath of the wild

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Speaker 6: stepping out of the cave. It feels like Elden Ring

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Speaker 6: coming up the elevator, Like you just see this expansive

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Speaker 6: world and you can go in any direction, and the

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Speaker 6: of the wind, like actually guiding you towards your next objective.

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Speaker 6: But I I love Erica's portrayal of Atsu in the game,

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Speaker 6: and Eric is who you're talking to you later. And

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Speaker 6: I just think that the the the beauty and the

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Speaker 2: That was it is, Rosie. I can't wait for you

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Speaker 2: But it is the coziness. I think I was expecting

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Speaker 7: Rains, just like there's.

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Speaker 2: Just like things in the air that are moving around

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Speaker 2: to love. I loved Ghost of Tushima, loved, loved, love

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Speaker 2: and you're so right about the way they let you

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Speaker 2: And when you go through the first little kind of

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Speaker 2: and it hits the title card. It's like a rush.

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Speaker 2: It's so good. It's one of the best openings of

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Speaker 2: where it just like boom, the music hits. You're on

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Speaker 2: and the mechanics are tightened up too. I mean, listen,

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Speaker 2: I'm right around in this game just being like I

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Speaker 7: Try it, please, please, please please up to me. Yes,

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Speaker 7: please do it.

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Speaker 2: Okay, it's just incredible so far.

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Speaker 5: Fave moment for both of you.

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Speaker 6: Mine is the first time I got to a dueling tree,

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Speaker 6: but the first time you get to a dueling tree,

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Speaker 7: But the one on one fights I think are stellar.

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Speaker 2: I agree any fight for me any like hold l

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Speaker 2: There's I'm not great at the game. I'm playing on medium,

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Speaker 2: and less punishing, certainly because your your enemies are not

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Speaker 2: and it's rare in a game that's not a Souls

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Speaker 2: That's not that you will spawn right back in the fight.

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Speaker 7: But don't lose experience.

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Speaker 2: You don't lose all your stuff. But the level of

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Speaker 2: is lets me know that I'm really enjoying this game.

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Speaker 2: The level of disappointment I feel when I get hid

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Speaker 6: I'm like you, oh, come on, I have really enjoyed

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Speaker 6: We've talked a lot about the combat. There's a lot

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Speaker 6: it has felt very natural to me, except there have

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Speaker 6: I have been incredibly disappointed there because I'm like, oh, fuck,

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Speaker 6: So I've really enjoyed the pathfinding, shrine searching like no

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Speaker 2: And then I think, and I think all the additions,

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Speaker 2: well done. The there's in a you can play your shamason.

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Speaker 2: You're you're a musician. Now you're running around with your

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Speaker 7: Have you you played make Camp the bone.

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Speaker 2: And the use of the touch pad for both the

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Speaker 2: shamasin and writing and different things within world, I think

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Speaker 2: is really really well done and it makes you feel

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Speaker 2: fun to play. I'll make camp, cook up some food

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Speaker 2: and then just start being like, just start jamming. Well, yeah, Aaron,

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Speaker 2: you're thus far out of five rating of Ghosts of Yota.

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Speaker 7: Wow, I will say easy four.

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Speaker 6: And I think the thing that is keeping it from

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Speaker 6: me with games, is am I in two plus weeks later,

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Speaker 6: am I still this in love with it? And if

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Speaker 6: that's the case, then yeah, let's bring it to a five.

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Speaker 6: So right now, good for Like, I'm very happy with it.

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Speaker 6: What about you, I'm going to.

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Speaker 2: Do the same solid four, I think. Yeah, obviously that

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Speaker 2: last star is about replayability I have. I usually get

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Speaker 2: I'm eager to start unlocking. But yeah, let's see how

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Speaker 2: it'll be in two weeks. I mean, I already love

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Speaker 2: the game. And you know what else I loved is

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Speaker 8: Thank you so so much for having me. I yeah,

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Speaker 9: But I think, yeah, I think it's from Dropout. That

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Speaker 5: And I'm like, yeah, so that makes sense.

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Speaker 5: Everyone's like, nobody needs that, Like nobody.

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Speaker 8: been part of the UCB scene and gotten improv training.

439
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Speaker 8: I had sort of pivoted to the track of I

440
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Speaker 8: would go gone all in on voiceover and tabletop and

441
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Speaker 8: so sort of coming into the Dropout team through that

442
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Speaker 8: was it was sort of unusual and uh, you know,

443
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Speaker 8: just incredibly incredibly fortunate for me because yeah, everybody there

444
00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:43,840
Speaker 8: is truly some of the best in their field right now,

445
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Speaker 8: you know, and uh drop Out you know, like I

446
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Speaker 8: never never cap for corporation, but also like the people

447
00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:57,320
Speaker 8: at drop Yeah, you know, the people at drop Out,

448
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Speaker 8: they do their best to do right by everybody, by

449
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Speaker 8: workers and you know, by putting their money where their

450
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Speaker 8: mouth is, by you know, support, and you know, just

451
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Speaker 8: like a really great onset culture, which is all unusual

452
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Speaker 8: for new media as you may know.

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Speaker 5: Really, yes, there was, well I was.

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Speaker 4: Let's talk a little bit about the tabletop side, because

455
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Speaker 4: that is also part of something that you were able

456
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Speaker 4: to be a part of in Dropout that became kind

457
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Speaker 4: of a huge part of their success, you and Brannan, So,

458
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Speaker 4: so could you talk a little bit about that aspect.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, it's wild because you know, I grew up playing

460
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Speaker 8: tabletop games. I played D and D for a long

461
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Speaker 8: time and in a lot of ways. I feel like

462
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Speaker 8: I think it happened by accident, that it was a job,

463
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Speaker 8: and that I happened to be proximal to that great accident.

464
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Speaker 8: You know, I friends with a lot of the critical

465
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Speaker 8: role folks, and I was on you know, nerdis Scheek

466
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Speaker 8: and Sundry doing sort of b team stuff like literally

467
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Speaker 8: the first day that they the first Thursday they weren't available,

468
00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:14,760
Speaker 8: they stuck a bunch of us on to do you know,

469
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Speaker 8: sort of a filler content. And just by virtue of that,

470
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Speaker 8: since I already had, you know, sort of the love

471
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Speaker 8: of the game, uh, ended up I ended up sort

472
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Speaker 8: of being a spin off into that and then you know,

473
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Speaker 8: going on to drop out with it. And it just

474
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Speaker 8: happened that that sort of my comedy and improv background

475
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Speaker 8: really helped with that. And then meeting you know Brennan

476
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Speaker 8: and Abria and Lou and realizing the absolute magic chemistry there. Uh,

477
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Speaker 8: you know, we all got business married and started our

478
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Speaker 8: own podcast.

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Speaker 4: Can we talk a little bit about how you guys

480
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Speaker 4: also sold out Madison Square got it?

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Speaker 8: Okay, I wasn't part of that team, but I was

482
00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:04,520
Speaker 8: up in the box and they did it was I

483
00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:07,159
Speaker 8: was there and it was like an a Vita or

484
00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:10,119
Speaker 8: like a you know, like a like a like the

485
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Speaker 8: Pope coming out on the balcony mine when people realized

486
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Speaker 8: that we were in the box and started like cheering

487
00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:20,800
Speaker 8: and stuff, and it was crazy because that's where that's

488
00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:24,920
Speaker 8: where sports is played, you know, that's where sports is

489
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Speaker 8: and like Billy like what is it? Billy Joel sold

490
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Speaker 8: out Madison Square Garden and also uh, the Intrepid Heroes,

491
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Speaker 8: which apparently if you sell out Madison Square Garden they

492
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Speaker 8: give you like a Tiffany certificate. Yeah, like a silver

493
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Speaker 8: certificate that that the gang got. And it was like,

494
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Speaker 8: it's funny because they are so humble and and sweet

495
00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:52,360
Speaker 8: and you know they're like, hah, this is a little silly,

496
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Speaker 8: but you can see them like that it means a

497
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Speaker 8: lot to them. So yeah, I think, yeah, it's it's yeah,

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Speaker 8: it's it's so easy, you know, like to be and

499
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Speaker 8: then being in entertainment weekly for for video games, and

500
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Speaker 8: you know, it's so wild that these things that I

501
00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:14,680
Speaker 8: really would be doing anyway, suddenly other people really are.

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Speaker 1: So cool too.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Well, Erica, thank you so much for joining us. We

505
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Speaker 2: will be hanging out as I play the video game

506
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Speaker 2: all week. Congradua, we're in the success of the game.

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Speaker 4: Yeah wait, wait, Aaron, Aaron has the important question.

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Speaker 6: Oh yeah, yeah, Erica, we wanted to ask you about

509
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Speaker 6: running the Matsuri and the Hint campaigns for Worlds Beyond,

510
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Speaker 6: and you will about to get there.

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Speaker 5: I think so quickly.

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Speaker 8: Oh yeah, So, so I've been asked.

513
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Speaker 9: I've been asked about running.

514
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Speaker 8: Games for my brilliant friends on Worlds Beyond number our podcast.

515
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Speaker 8: I did Matsudi, which is set in Brennan's world Umora.

516
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Speaker 8: You know, it's it's very Giblisque, and to that effect,

517
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Speaker 8: I did a little sort of summer oboem festival for

518
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Speaker 8: the characters as kids, because you know, every good anime

519
00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:10,080
Speaker 8: has a little summer festival episode.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 8: And it was really special to get to bring sort

522
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Speaker 8: of my culture and experiences, you know, into this collaborative,

523
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Speaker 8: to weave it into this world with my friends and

524
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Speaker 8: with Hint. It was I don't have patients for board games.

525
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Speaker 9: As much I enjoy them.

526
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Speaker 8: I enjoy the idea of them, but I don't have

527
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Speaker 8: the patience for them unless there's some sort of narrative

528
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Speaker 8: to draw me in. So I was like, I'm going

529
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Speaker 8: to take Clue, which I don't know that I have

530
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Speaker 8: ever finished a game of I've started so many times,

531
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Speaker 8: don't know if I finished. And I was like, we're

532
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Speaker 8: gonna finish it and we're gonna role play it the

533
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Speaker 8: entire time.

534
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Speaker 9: And my friends are just so brilliant.

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Speaker 8: So they just solve my little murder mystery, but did

536
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Speaker 8: it in a way that was interesting for people to

537
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Speaker 8: listen to. Yeah, it's been a dream to get to

538
00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:06,360
Speaker 8: tell these stories with just the best you know, oral

539
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Speaker 8: storytelling tradition, storytellers of our generation.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, now I know you ran that. And when

541
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Speaker 4: I'm like, now we have to get together and run

542
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Speaker 4: the murder, she wrote Cabot Cove Escape from Cabot Cove

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Speaker 4: Table to.

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Speaker 5: My game dream.

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Speaker 9: Oh my gosh, that would be so good.

546
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Speaker 8: Yeah, I know, but you should actually think about writing

547
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Speaker 8: a campaign setting for that.

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Speaker 1: A lot of people.

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Speaker 5: I feel like it would be so good. Yes, thank

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Speaker 5: you so much, Erica Joy to have Thank you just

551
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Speaker 5: one so.

552
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Speaker 9: Much for having me. I appreciate it.

553
00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:47,760
Speaker 2: Thank you to Erka Yushi for joining us. We'll be

554
00:31:47,840 --> 00:32:03,920
Speaker 2: right back at a Iraq.

555
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Speaker 4: We're back, baby, and guess what it's time to talk

556
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Speaker 4: about the long awaited, highly awaited I don't know the

557
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Speaker 4: new tron look.

558
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Speaker 5: I was just the trailer did look incredible. We spoke

559
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Speaker 5: about this.

560
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Speaker 4: We all knew it was gonna have Jared Leto in it,

561
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Speaker 4: but we're hoping for the best because Aaron, I do

562
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Speaker 4: have to say, the cast for this movie is like

563
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Speaker 4: astonishingly good. Yes, like when you lay it all out,

564
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Speaker 4: You've got Evan Peters, You've got Jodie Turner Smith, You've

565
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Speaker 4: got Greta Lee in one of the main roles, Cameron

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Speaker 4: Jillian Anderson playing Evan Peter's mum, and I heard she

567
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Speaker 4: slapped it in the face that everyone said that's like

568
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Speaker 4: the best part.

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Speaker 5: Of the movie.

570
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Speaker 4: But unfortunately, due to many conflicts and also me and

571
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Speaker 4: Jason not being good enough at riding light cycles, you

572
00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:53,520
Speaker 4: are the only one who has seen it.

573
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Speaker 5: So give us your.

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Speaker 4: Tront Aris spoiler free thoughts first, Danello recap.

575
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Speaker 6: Them with spoiler app All right, So my spoiler free

576
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Speaker 6: reaction is come for the nine inch nails leave because

577
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Speaker 6: it's not called tron Air threes. It's the third one,

578
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Speaker 6: perfect opportunity for the three to replace the E and

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Speaker 6: they didn't do it.

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Speaker 7: And if that's yeah, would that have made it better?

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Speaker 10: No?

582
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Speaker 6: But all right, here's here's my my spoilery recap for

583
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Speaker 6: you both. Feel free to stop me if any of

584
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Speaker 6: this is I'm very so we start off Cocky Tech

585
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Speaker 6: CEO Julian Dillinger played by Evan Peters has combined the

586
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Speaker 6: four horsemen of tech, which obviously is artificial intelligence, three

587
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Speaker 6: D printing, making weapons for the government, and being rude

588
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Speaker 6: to your mother. Well, Eve Kim, who's the CEO of NCOM,

589
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Speaker 6: is attempting to transfer her Stardow Valley produce to the

590
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Speaker 6: real world so she can stop eating microwave burritos.

591
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Speaker 7: This is a real thing.

592
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Speaker 6: Aries is an NPC created by Julian to act as

593
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Speaker 6: his head of tech security, but he becomes self aware

594
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Speaker 6: when he's brought into the real world via the three

595
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Speaker 6: D printing, but he laments being unable to feel the rain.

596
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Speaker 4: Julian sends them all right, all right, blade run off,

597
00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:15,360
Speaker 4: so his body his body is like yeah, Basically, Julian

598
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Speaker 4: will three D print these huge military vehicles and his

599
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Speaker 4: soldiers and they can only lost for twenty nine minutes, right, It.

600
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Speaker 6: Can only exhaust for twenty nine minutes, right, So everyone

601
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Speaker 6: is searching for the code of Permanence, which will allow

602
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Speaker 6: all the anutes. They disintegrate. It's like a fanos snapping

603
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Speaker 6: and all the AI creations.

604
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Speaker 5: Disappear to the three D print mix guys, come on.

605
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Speaker 6: So Julian sends Aris and Athena, who is played by

606
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Speaker 6: Jodi Turner Smith after Eve to steal the key to

607
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Speaker 6: Permanence that she's discovered, and it will allow any three

608
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Speaker 6: D printed thing to exist forever. Aris catches Eve, but

609
00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:57,239
Speaker 6: he starts to feel bad for her when he realizes

610
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Speaker 6: what a bad choice this was for her career, and

611
00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:03,080
Speaker 6: some un aimed character shoots Eve with a laser that

612
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Speaker 6: transfers her body into the grid, where Athena wants to

613
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Speaker 6: download the permanence code from her memory, especially because this

614
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Speaker 6: means it will kill Eve in the grid and Irl.

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Speaker 7: Now a quick timeout.

616
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Speaker 2: Who wrote the Permanence code?

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Speaker 7: Jeff Bridges' character.

618
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Speaker 4: Oh okay, who is in it for like five minutes?

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Now, my side here is that if you had a

621
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Speaker 6: gun that could teleport people from the real world into

622
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Speaker 6: your virtual prison, I think that should be the military

623
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Speaker 6: tech you would develop, not soldiers that throw frisbees.

624
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Speaker 7: But that's not I didn't write the movie, so I'm

625
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Speaker 7: not entirely sure.

626
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Speaker 6: Aris helps Eve escape the grid because he's cyber stalked

627
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Speaker 6: her and he's read all of her text messages, including

628
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Speaker 6: the inappropriate ones, and he's decided after reading them that

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Speaker 6: she's a gun.

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Speaker 5: And they have Jared leto play this character.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, he's decided that Eve is a good person, and

632
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Speaker 6: he really likes depeche Mode as wants the Permanence code

633
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Speaker 6: for himself and won't give it to Julian. And in

634
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Speaker 6: order to find the code without killing Eve even her

635
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:10,440
Speaker 6: comedic sidekick whose name I've already forgotten, send Aris into

636
00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:14,120
Speaker 6: the original Tron machine in the NCOM Museum, Oh Sick,

637
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:18,640
Speaker 6: where he meets Kevin Flynn, Jeff Bridges okay, and Bridges

638
00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:20,600
Speaker 6: is like, oh, it's so interesting to see you here.

639
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:24,399
Speaker 6: What's it like outside? And Aris convinces Flynn that he's

640
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Speaker 6: worthy of receiving the Permanen's code because he likes depeche

641
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Speaker 6: Mode but is unable to put their words why. It's

642
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Speaker 6: just a feeling, which is the key to him being

643
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Speaker 6: So he stores the code in his Frisbee and he

644
00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:42,960
Speaker 6: comes back to the real world. Alfina is attacking Eve

645
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Speaker 6: and her friend who I still can't remember their name.

646
00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:47,080
Speaker 6: She's about to kill Eve with the gun that sends

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Speaker 6: you to the grid, and then the sprinklers go off

648
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Speaker 6: and Athena laments being unable to feel the rain. She

649
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Speaker 6: dissolves in the twenty nine minutes, and then she overrides yeh,

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Speaker 6: she overrides Julian's programming, comes back to our world with

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Speaker 6: to assault the city and go after Eve kind of

652
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Speaker 6: by herself. She three D printed like a ton of soldiers,

653
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Speaker 6: but they never show up again, so I don't know,

654
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:12,280
Speaker 6: incredible they get lost or something. At some point, Aries

655
00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:16,359
Speaker 6: comes back. He fights Athena, but the actual victory is

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Speaker 6: because Hassan Minaj's character, the CTO Yep Yep hadn't talked

657
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Speaker 6: about him yet. Minaj's character, who's the CTO of Ncom,

658
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:29,880
Speaker 6: hacks into the Dillinger system and shuts down their grid.

659
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:33,400
Speaker 6: So yeah, that's why he's got the corner office. Baby

660
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:35,440
Speaker 6: Morbius escapes into the night.

661
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Speaker 2: Chief Technology.

662
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:39,279
Speaker 6: Yeah, Morbius escapes into the night. The authorities converge on

663
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:41,600
Speaker 6: Julian to arrest him, but he reverses the three D

664
00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:44,879
Speaker 6: printer to transfer himself into the grid, and then Eve

665
00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:48,520
Speaker 6: uses the permanence code for good, providing oranges for everybody.

666
00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:51,720
Speaker 6: Morbius writes her a letter to say he's been traveling

667
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:53,960
Speaker 6: the world and leaving the United States has shown him

668
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:56,280
Speaker 6: that people are actually good, and while it's too early

669
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Speaker 6: for him to reveal himself to the world, he's still

670
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:02,080
Speaker 6: assembling the Sinister and he is searching for Spider Man.

671
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Speaker 4: I was gonna say, this is very like, it's giving weird,

672
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:13,080
Speaker 4: kind of like why would anyone want a Jared leto

673
00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:16,960
Speaker 4: AI that has is like traveling the world and learning

674
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:19,480
Speaker 4: digital Jesus, I guess is what they were kind of

675
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Speaker 4: going for.

676
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Speaker 6: There's a lot of like Drax coding in him at

677
00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:25,840
Speaker 6: points where he like takes things too literally, which I

678
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:28,520
Speaker 6: don't have a ton of knowledge about AI, but I

679
00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:30,840
Speaker 6: feel like AI would know idioms at this point.

680
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Speaker 2: Yeah, so he's a good He's.

681
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:34,640
Speaker 5: A he's secretly the good guy.

682
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Speaker 2: Pattern matching is basically like all that AI does, YEH

683
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:43,279
Speaker 2: should sly know that? Yeah, so he is like the

684
00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:45,799
Speaker 2: good guy. Basically the corporations are the.

685
00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:49,520
Speaker 6: Bast starts off bad and then realizes that, oh wow,

686
00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:53,680
Speaker 6: I have been asked to do horrible things and maybe uh,

687
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:57,279
Speaker 6: I can turn against my creator and then I'm going

688
00:38:57,320 --> 00:39:00,799
Speaker 6: to have a will for myself and be good. I

689
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:05,080
Speaker 6: see interesting there are references to every fake character, like

690
00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:09,479
Speaker 6: they call him Pinocchio at one point, there's a boy

691
00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:13,520
Speaker 6: I'll say like I in the beginning of it, like

692
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Speaker 6: nine Inch Nails.

693
00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:16,000
Speaker 7: The soundtrack is incredible.

694
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Speaker 6: Everyone said, yeah, kicks in for the first time, like

695
00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:22,840
Speaker 6: I had the full on like ugly, mean mugging.

696
00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:25,839
Speaker 7: I'm like bobbing my head as the place I loved it.

697
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:29,239
Speaker 6: And then their single as Alive as You Need Me

698
00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:33,239
Speaker 6: to Be is like complete banger. It feels like mix

699
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Speaker 6: a little bit of muse, like covering a Rolling Stone

700
00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:39,480
Speaker 6: song with like a ton of bass. It's incredible. The

701
00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:41,920
Speaker 6: VFX looks really good, uh. For you know, we have

702
00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:44,200
Speaker 6: a bunch of movies that I feel like the VFX

703
00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:47,880
Speaker 6: has been rushed, But in this the as much as

704
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Speaker 6: I hate the idea of the three D printing process,

705
00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:51,720
Speaker 6: it looks very cool.

706
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Speaker 1: Uh.

707
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Speaker 6: They They have like these bowstaves with the hard light trails.

708
00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:58,520
Speaker 7: That follow it, and that's a really cool thing. You

709
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Speaker 7: can see where it goes.

710
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Speaker 6: The lightss are cool, although they kind of just like

711
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:03,879
Speaker 6: are in the first half of the movie and then

712
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Speaker 6: they never come back.

713
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Speaker 2: Is is this movie how how tightly tied is it

714
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Speaker 2: to the original Tron and its sequels? Like is it

715
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Speaker 2: more of a reboot?

716
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Speaker 5: It is more of a I was gonna say soft reboot.

717
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Speaker 6: I think there are a couple of references to legacy,

718
00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:27,520
Speaker 6: for sure, like, oh, look at this location, and you

719
00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:30,080
Speaker 6: know there is one beautiful VFX scene that takes place

720
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Speaker 6: like in in the original Tron video game that looks great.

721
00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:36,839
Speaker 6: But yeah, like there's some references to characters that were

722
00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:40,520
Speaker 6: in Legacy, but nothing that's like there's no Sillya Murphy

723
00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:41,640
Speaker 6: is not in this kind of thing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's okay.

725
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Speaker 5: I also was gonna say, Aaron, how did it play.

726
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Speaker 6: In the so earlier I said that when when the

727
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Speaker 6: Nine and Schnails soundtrack kicked in for the first time,

728
00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:55,560
Speaker 6: I was like full on bobbing my head. There were

729
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Speaker 6: other moments when I had my head in my hands

730
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Speaker 6: because I was embarrassed, and there were other people in

731
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Speaker 6: the theater who who kind of were like chuckling at

732
00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:08,440
Speaker 6: not things that were meant to be chuckled at. And uh,

733
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Speaker 6: I regret to say people left early.

734
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Speaker 5: Yeah I'm not.

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Speaker 4: I've I've had similar stuff. The reviews are not looking

736
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Speaker 4: great right now, guys.

737
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Speaker 5: And I would also.

738
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Speaker 2: Say it is a fifty three currently on the tomatoes.

739
00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:29,319
Speaker 5: The tomatoes, And I would also say, oh, you.

740
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Speaker 6: Like Cameron Monaghan is in this movie and did the

741
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:35,920
Speaker 6: press tour and he has like the epitome of a

742
00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:38,040
Speaker 6: blink and you'll miss it, like he he could have

743
00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:40,520
Speaker 6: been on set for thirty minutes.

744
00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:41,920
Speaker 5: And then left.

745
00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:46,920
Speaker 6: Jillian probably, Yeah, Jillian Anderson like has some scenes and

746
00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:52,480
Speaker 6: has a motivating scene, but she really could have done

747
00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:55,000
Speaker 6: on her filming in two days. Like it does feel

748
00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:57,400
Speaker 6: like a lot of things were cut, some plot lines

749
00:41:57,520 --> 00:42:00,760
Speaker 6: and the movie is still two hours, Like it's long

750
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Speaker 6: and there's stuff missing.

751
00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:04,120
Speaker 5: Also, let's talk for.

752
00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:08,399
Speaker 4: A minute about actual Jared Leto and why they keep

753
00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:11,160
Speaker 4: casting him, because so this is a there's a great

754
00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:14,120
Speaker 4: piece about the box office potential of this movie at

755
00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:16,839
Speaker 4: slash film by and it's Ryan Scott who wrote it.

756
00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:18,000
Speaker 5: The thing I think that he.

757
00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:24,160
Speaker 4: Actually highlights that's really interesting is Jared Leto. The last

758
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:27,280
Speaker 4: hit that he had, like big, outright can't be questioned.

759
00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:30,279
Speaker 4: It was Suicide Squad and it made seven hundred and

760
00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:34,120
Speaker 4: forty million, forty nine million dollars world, right, that's the

761
00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:36,439
Speaker 4: first suicide squad, so it was not a critically acclaim movie,

762
00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:37,360
Speaker 4: but it made money.

763
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Speaker 5: That was in twelve sixteen.

764
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Speaker 2: Not the star of that movie.

765
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Speaker 4: He's in it very bad minute yea yeah, very cut

766
00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:50,880
Speaker 4: out and it says, you know, Blade Runner twenty forty

767
00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:52,600
Speaker 4: nine hilariously.

768
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Speaker 5: Also not a lot of money in that one.

769
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Speaker 2: He's funny in how Gucci, But I don't think the

770
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Speaker 2: movie was.

771
00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:04,480
Speaker 5: Meant No, it's not meant to be, but his portrayal

772
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:05,239
Speaker 5: is hilarious.

773
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:08,080
Speaker 4: But another movie one hundred and fifty three million, Morebius

774
00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:11,480
Speaker 4: one hundred and sixty seven million, The Little Thing's thirty

775
00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:14,640
Speaker 4: one million, Harnted Mansion one hundred and eighteen million, Well,

776
00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:15,280
Speaker 4: kind of crazy.

777
00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:16,880
Speaker 5: How many movies have made less money?

778
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Speaker 6: And he's also he's the villain of the upcoming Masters

779
00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:22,719
Speaker 6: of the Universe, which I'm I am.

780
00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:25,880
Speaker 4: I'm incredibly sad about that because otherwise the cast is

781
00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:29,200
Speaker 4: like so great and I'm very excited for it. But yes,

782
00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:33,000
Speaker 4: I so like, how do you keep how good is

783
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:36,440
Speaker 4: Jared Leto's agent? Because this is nine years of Flocks

784
00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:38,399
Speaker 4: and Disney still put him at the front of.

785
00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:40,320
Speaker 7: This it's not his agent. He produced the movie.

786
00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:43,120
Speaker 6: Oh okay, so this is deep enough that now he's

787
00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:44,640
Speaker 6: going to make the movies he wants and he's going

788
00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:45,120
Speaker 6: to be in there.

789
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Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, guys, Aaron, you first after watching it seeing

790
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Speaker 4: people leave, kind of being the one who has experienced

791
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Speaker 4: tron aries, what's your box office prediction for this movie?

792
00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:01,320
Speaker 7: Thirty million?

793
00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:05,680
Speaker 4: I think that is very fair. That's high, I think, yeah,

794
00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:06,640
Speaker 4: I think it's high.

795
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Speaker 2: The based on the the critics. I just I think,

796
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Speaker 2: let's see Disney's feeling well, Disney's feeling positive because they

797
00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:19,400
Speaker 2: are listing it for four they're listing at forty four million.

798
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Speaker 4: But that actually wouldn't be very positive because that is

799
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Speaker 4: what John Legacy made ten years ago, So it would

800
00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:28,640
Speaker 4: not be a huge come up for them.

801
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Speaker 5: I think it would.

802
00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:33,280
Speaker 4: And this movie allegedly, I mean, you're talking about definitely

803
00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:35,880
Speaker 4: over two hundred million dollars to make this movie, so

804
00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:37,839
Speaker 4: I think it is going to be a flop for them.

805
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Speaker 7: That does look pretty good.

806
00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:46,840
Speaker 5: But right now it looks like the movie is probably.

807
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:49,520
Speaker 4: Going to be the number one movie, and then we'll

808
00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:53,200
Speaker 4: have Black Phone two, Shelby Oaks, the Springsteen movie is

809
00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:55,719
Speaker 4: coming out this year with the Jeremy Alan White in

810
00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:58,440
Speaker 4: it and Predator, bad Lands and The Running Man.

811
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Speaker 5: So I think it's probably not.

812
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:01,959
Speaker 4: Even if it does manage to make it to number

813
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:03,800
Speaker 4: one this week, I don't think it's going to be

814
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Speaker 4: there for a while.

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Speaker 2: Out of out of five, what do you give it out? Yeah?

816
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:09,520
Speaker 5: Five light cycles.

817
00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:12,240
Speaker 6: I have a slightly different review scale for this movie,

818
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:15,640
Speaker 6: and my of it is three, as in, if you

819
00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:18,040
Speaker 6: can come up with three reasons not to go see it,

820
00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:25,720
Speaker 6: don't go see it. So it's like it's too far away,

821
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Speaker 6: no baby, Jared Low, Yeah, Jared let off boom listen.

822
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Speaker 2: If you have Disney Plus, just wait, just.

823
00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:34,440
Speaker 5: Wait, it's gonna be on there, guaranteed.

824
00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:39,040
Speaker 4: Probably Thanksgiving, honestly because of this performance. Aaron, thank you

825
00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:42,120
Speaker 4: so much for being our tron airy sacrificial lamb. We

826
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Speaker 4: appreciate you. Yes, and we will be listening to the

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Speaker 4: nine inch Now soundtrack because at least we got that

828
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Speaker 4: out of it.

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Speaker 2: Take a quick break. We'll be right back after this.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and we're back. And I have two dog lovers

831
00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:14,440
Speaker 5: with me, Joel and common A. Wow, we've been so

832
00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:15,920
Speaker 5: excited for this movie.

833
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:18,719
Speaker 4: I am just yah, Yeah, I'm so happy that we're

834
00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:21,759
Speaker 4: getting to talk about it. I think this is a

835
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:27,200
Speaker 4: truly inventive movie. Yes, in the framework of horror that

836
00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:30,440
Speaker 4: we have not seen before. This movie is a directorial

837
00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:36,200
Speaker 4: debut of Professor Ben Lomberg premiered South By Southwest, where

838
00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:40,200
Speaker 4: it had like a really crazy response. And then it

839
00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:45,080
Speaker 4: is essentially a horror haunted house, horror movie but from

840
00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:48,400
Speaker 4: a dog's perspective, which I think is what you cannot.

841
00:46:48,040 --> 00:46:53,200
Speaker 5: Really estimate is what that looks like. It's very unique.

842
00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:55,840
Speaker 4: My spoiler free review is I think this is pretty

843
00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:59,200
Speaker 4: much you know me. I often will say, like, you know,

844
00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:01,560
Speaker 4: I don't raid on a curve. It's not my job

845
00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:03,360
Speaker 4: anymore to be like a film critic and think of

846
00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:04,439
Speaker 4: every movie that's come out.

847
00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:07,200
Speaker 5: I think for this movie. This movie is seventy three

848
00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:09,600
Speaker 5: minutes long. It is utterly.

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Speaker 4: Engaging and inventive the entire time. It's pretty much like

850
00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:15,640
Speaker 4: a perfect entry level horror movie.

851
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Speaker 5: And the dog libs.

852
00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:20,960
Speaker 4: I know that's a spoiler, but don't worry, because that's

853
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:22,600
Speaker 4: all anyone cares about about this movie.

854
00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:23,880
Speaker 5: So the dog libs.

855
00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:30,600
Speaker 4: The dog is not even really in much terror or pain. Guys,

856
00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:35,560
Speaker 4: like the dog is Okay, Indy is okay, and it

857
00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:41,400
Speaker 4: had This movie was originally supposed to be director video shudder.

858
00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:43,279
Speaker 4: I think it's still gonna be a huge hit when

859
00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:46,640
Speaker 4: it hits there. But it opened up to two point

860
00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:50,400
Speaker 4: twenty five million, which is actually the second best debut

861
00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:55,120
Speaker 4: that IFC has ever had, and I think it's because

862
00:47:55,239 --> 00:47:59,160
Speaker 4: of the trailer that went viral and it racked over

863
00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:01,399
Speaker 4: like one hundred million in Vius and people got really

864
00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:05,120
Speaker 4: really excited. It's also the second biggest theater opening they've

865
00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:09,479
Speaker 4: ever had, so I'm really excited that it's great and

866
00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:12,200
Speaker 4: it's vibe, and I feel like there's going to be

867
00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:15,160
Speaker 4: like teenagers watching this for the next like twenty years

868
00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:19,240
Speaker 4: like this, feeling like they discovered something completely new.

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Speaker 5: And it's very charming.

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Speaker 4: And it is a little bit hard to watch at

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00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:25,799
Speaker 4: times because Indy is.

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Speaker 5: A good dog who gets scared.

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00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:30,680
Speaker 4: But okay, so that is the mostly spoiler free but

874
00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:32,520
Speaker 4: I think everyone wants to know about the dog, so

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00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:33,120
Speaker 4: that's okay.

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Speaker 5: I've had many.

877
00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:36,160
Speaker 4: People already DM me, many people.

878
00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:42,040
Speaker 5: Already DM that is the top ask me yes, but lovely.

879
00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:46,320
Speaker 4: Dog owning ladies who are also just big dog loving

880
00:48:46,360 --> 00:48:48,960
Speaker 4: fans and also horror fans, how do you feel about

881
00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:51,640
Speaker 4: this movie, Carmen, I know this was a very and

882
00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:53,480
Speaker 4: highly anticipated movie for you.

883
00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:55,600
Speaker 5: Did it live up to the hype?

884
00:48:56,080 --> 00:48:56,799
Speaker 8: It?

885
00:48:56,800 --> 00:48:58,319
Speaker 10: It lived up to the hype, and it gave me

886
00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:02,600
Speaker 10: even more I think, yes, I obviously once the trailer

887
00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:04,440
Speaker 10: came out and I heard that this was going to

888
00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:06,480
Speaker 10: be a horror I'm sorry if you can hear by

889
00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:09,440
Speaker 10: the way my dog in the background squeaking.

890
00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:11,239
Speaker 5: His dog's love and life. You know what, it's a

891
00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:13,400
Speaker 5: doggy episode. It's just it's just how it.

892
00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:19,800
Speaker 10: Is, so that's what that is. But I really didn't

893
00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:22,200
Speaker 10: know what to expect about a horror movie from a

894
00:49:22,239 --> 00:49:25,120
Speaker 10: dog's perspective, you know what, what does that look like?

895
00:49:25,520 --> 00:49:30,280
Speaker 10: And they gave me that in a way that I

896
00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:32,759
Speaker 10: didn't anticipate. So I expected, like, oh my god, is

897
00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:34,440
Speaker 10: this is going to be like a POV sort of

898
00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:35,160
Speaker 10: like am I.

899
00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:37,279
Speaker 5: Going to be in the dog's eyes sort of thing?

900
00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:38,600
Speaker 7: And they didn't do that.

901
00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:42,560
Speaker 10: They gave us more of like the camera angles and

902
00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:46,000
Speaker 10: the fit and the camera work that made us feel

903
00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:49,880
Speaker 10: like we were in the dog's perspective and made us

904
00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:53,280
Speaker 10: kind of relate to what the dog was going through.

905
00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:56,399
Speaker 10: Throughout the movie. And I guess if we do want

906
00:49:56,440 --> 00:49:58,400
Speaker 10: to get in do we want to get into spoilers

907
00:49:58,400 --> 00:49:58,799
Speaker 10: a little bit?

908
00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:00,680
Speaker 4: I think, yeah, if you don't want to spoilers, guys,

909
00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:03,160
Speaker 4: put the spoiler am uffs on. But if you don't

910
00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:06,240
Speaker 4: mind spoilers, and I know a lot of our horphobic

911
00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:09,640
Speaker 4: fans like to listen before they watch, so yeah, listen

912
00:50:09,680 --> 00:50:11,960
Speaker 4: to this, we're gonna get into the spoiler territory.

913
00:50:12,680 --> 00:50:16,960
Speaker 10: Yeah, I've got I've definitely, I've definitely, I've definitely got

914
00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:20,160
Speaker 10: to give it another watch to fully kind of absorb

915
00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:24,480
Speaker 10: what the plot was about. But the way that I interpret,

916
00:50:24,520 --> 00:50:27,000
Speaker 10: you're also kind of trying to interpret what is happening,

917
00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:31,800
Speaker 10: yes to the humans, just like the dog is trying

918
00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:33,880
Speaker 10: to figure out what is happening to the humans. So

919
00:50:34,200 --> 00:50:38,120
Speaker 10: you're never worried for the dog in the same way

920
00:50:38,239 --> 00:50:42,120
Speaker 10: that the movie makes you worry for the dog's human more.

921
00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:44,400
Speaker 10: That's what you're really focused on, is like, oh, no,

922
00:50:44,520 --> 00:50:46,640
Speaker 10: the dog is really worried about their human and what

923
00:50:46,680 --> 00:50:50,000
Speaker 10: they're going through. And they've moved into this new house,

924
00:50:51,560 --> 00:50:54,560
Speaker 10: an old house that is like haunted.

925
00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:57,880
Speaker 11: Definitely haunted, and he's inherited it from his grandfather.

926
00:50:57,640 --> 00:50:58,840
Speaker 5: Who has bad vibes.

927
00:50:58,840 --> 00:51:00,640
Speaker 4: By the way, Guys like I was watching it, and

928
00:51:00,640 --> 00:51:03,160
Speaker 4: I was like's.

929
00:51:02,040 --> 00:51:06,800
Speaker 10: House, Yeah, bad vibes. And then the owner, the human

930
00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:12,160
Speaker 10: becomes very sick, and I took it to be that

931
00:51:12,320 --> 00:51:17,359
Speaker 10: he was going through like lung cancer uh, and that

932
00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:22,560
Speaker 10: he was experiencing uh uh, like late stage lung cancer

933
00:51:22,600 --> 00:51:25,439
Speaker 10: and the dot and this was like about the dog

934
00:51:25,520 --> 00:51:27,800
Speaker 10: mourning the loss of a human when.

935
00:51:27,680 --> 00:51:30,680
Speaker 5: We pass on. Normally it's humans.

936
00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:32,960
Speaker 10: We're mourning the loss of our dogs because we often,

937
00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:36,200
Speaker 10: you know, our dogs don't live as long as we do.

938
00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:40,040
Speaker 10: But what happens when the human dies before the dog.

939
00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:42,120
Speaker 5: It's really Yeah.

940
00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:45,040
Speaker 11: I found it to be a really interesting meditation on

941
00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:49,279
Speaker 11: like isolation, ways we choose to isolate ourselves. You know,

942
00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:52,240
Speaker 11: the cabin in the woods element of it is already

943
00:51:52,280 --> 00:51:55,759
Speaker 11: sort of isolated, but then there's this extra layer of

944
00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:58,480
Speaker 11: As the movie progresses, the owner sort of starts to

945
00:51:58,480 --> 00:52:01,680
Speaker 11: distance himself from his dogs, angry that he's dying, he's

946
00:52:01,680 --> 00:52:02,760
Speaker 11: scared that he's dying.

947
00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:05,359
Speaker 1: He's pushed his sister away, and.

948
00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:08,279
Speaker 4: She's the one who originally, by the way, realized there

949
00:52:08,360 --> 00:52:11,319
Speaker 4: was something really wrong because of the way the dom

950
00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:11,920
Speaker 4: was acting.

951
00:52:12,040 --> 00:52:15,200
Speaker 5: She's the first one who's like, hey, dogs consents.

952
00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:18,799
Speaker 4: This stuff like maybe the indie's smelling something, maybe you know,

953
00:52:19,719 --> 00:52:20,440
Speaker 4: and also I do.

954
00:52:20,640 --> 00:52:23,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, sorry, I just gonna say.

955
00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:26,200
Speaker 11: They heighten that by you don't see anyone's face until

956
00:52:26,239 --> 00:52:28,360
Speaker 11: like right until the ends, all the faces are obscured.

957
00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:30,640
Speaker 11: And then on top of that, there's this sort of

958
00:52:31,239 --> 00:52:34,319
Speaker 11: reflective relationship through the TV where he's watching these old

959
00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:38,080
Speaker 11: tapes his grandfather recorded of himself. He's clearly undergoing the

960
00:52:38,200 --> 00:52:41,200
Speaker 11: same kind of thing. He's got the same really intense cough.

961
00:52:41,280 --> 00:52:44,080
Speaker 11: He's not well. He is a dog who's super loyal,

962
00:52:44,680 --> 00:52:49,040
Speaker 11: who's always sort of around him. Uh And and because

963
00:52:49,719 --> 00:52:52,440
Speaker 11: the main character isn't really talking to anybody, uh and

964
00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:55,080
Speaker 11: he's only got this relationship either with his sister through

965
00:52:55,120 --> 00:52:58,840
Speaker 11: his phone or with his deceased grandfather through these VHS's.

966
00:53:00,840 --> 00:53:04,600
Speaker 1: I mean for me, like I was like, I spent

967
00:53:04,680 --> 00:53:05,680
Speaker 1: so much time with my dog.

968
00:53:06,520 --> 00:53:09,640
Speaker 11: Was like, like the dog, You're experiencing all of this

969
00:53:09,760 --> 00:53:12,800
Speaker 11: through the dog's perspective, and the dog is like basically

970
00:53:12,800 --> 00:53:14,040
Speaker 11: the whole time, I was like, is he good?

971
00:53:16,320 --> 00:53:18,799
Speaker 1: How do I help? What I can't? What do I do?

972
00:53:19,080 --> 00:53:20,360
Speaker 1: And I was really impressed.

973
00:53:20,440 --> 00:53:23,520
Speaker 11: I think most dog centered movies I think of like

974
00:53:23,520 --> 00:53:27,840
Speaker 11: a homeword bound or something, they try to personify the

975
00:53:27,840 --> 00:53:34,040
Speaker 11: dog and human elements. Thank you, and it's which is fine.

976
00:53:34,080 --> 00:53:35,520
Speaker 1: Who doesn't you know?

977
00:53:36,120 --> 00:53:39,920
Speaker 11: I love that walks on two legs, you know, with

978
00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:45,160
Speaker 11: them in the raincoat. I like it exactly. But this,

979
00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:47,880
Speaker 11: you know, as dog lovers, I think it's such a

980
00:53:47,920 --> 00:53:50,600
Speaker 11: beautiful homage to dogs, made much more special by the

981
00:53:50,640 --> 00:53:52,640
Speaker 11: fact that this is the director's actual.

982
00:53:54,280 --> 00:53:57,879
Speaker 10: Thing about his fantastic acting from Indy by the way,

983
00:53:57,920 --> 00:53:58,960
Speaker 10: because Indy.

984
00:53:58,880 --> 00:54:01,680
Speaker 5: Is a non professional performer.

985
00:54:02,200 --> 00:54:07,960
Speaker 4: Indy was trained essentially for three years by Ben Limberg,

986
00:54:08,120 --> 00:54:12,840
Speaker 4: the director, and his wife Carrie Fisher, and the notion

987
00:54:13,200 --> 00:54:16,799
Speaker 4: was to essentially get him into a place.

988
00:54:17,480 --> 00:54:19,800
Speaker 5: No rip to our baby.

989
00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:25,440
Speaker 4: This is Carrie with a k, but you know, another

990
00:54:25,560 --> 00:54:27,960
Speaker 4: very inventive and thoughtful person.

991
00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:29,160
Speaker 5: Clearly because this movie.

992
00:54:29,239 --> 00:54:33,080
Speaker 4: What I was really impressed by, Joel that you mentioned

993
00:54:33,080 --> 00:54:37,319
Speaker 4: there is just like they are not interested. And I

994
00:54:37,320 --> 00:54:39,120
Speaker 4: think this is what I love about IFC and what

995
00:54:39,160 --> 00:54:42,399
Speaker 4: I love about Shudder is in reality, this is a

996
00:54:42,520 --> 00:54:46,480
Speaker 4: very experimental movie, not just because we don't often get

997
00:54:46,520 --> 00:54:50,399
Speaker 4: movies from the dog's perspective, but also because this is a.

998
00:54:50,239 --> 00:54:52,520
Speaker 5: Very minimal dialogue movie.

999
00:54:52,920 --> 00:54:58,000
Speaker 4: It's mostly vibes, and you do have to really enjoy it.

1000
00:54:58,040 --> 00:54:59,440
Speaker 4: And this is why I really want people to go

1001
00:54:59,440 --> 00:55:02,680
Speaker 4: and see it, because you really have to focus on

1002
00:55:03,280 --> 00:55:06,759
Speaker 4: what is going to get into Indie's mindset, Like the

1003
00:55:06,960 --> 00:55:12,600
Speaker 4: baby good boy dog is just really trying to struggle

1004
00:55:12,680 --> 00:55:18,319
Speaker 4: through this for his owner, and it's so incredible to

1005
00:55:18,400 --> 00:55:21,640
Speaker 4: see the way that they bring that to life. And honestly,

1006
00:55:21,680 --> 00:55:27,720
Speaker 4: this is not a hyperbole like hyperbole, but like they

1007
00:55:27,960 --> 00:55:29,680
Speaker 4: I don't think I've ever seen a movie.

1008
00:55:29,400 --> 00:55:32,359
Speaker 5: That looks like this or that tells a story like this.

1009
00:55:32,840 --> 00:55:35,279
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I've watched a lot of movies, a lot

1010
00:55:35,320 --> 00:55:37,680
Speaker 4: of different kinds of movies, but there's something about this

1011
00:55:37,760 --> 00:55:40,480
Speaker 4: that's really special. I think that they did such a

1012
00:55:40,520 --> 00:55:43,480
Speaker 4: brilliant job. And also I think seventy three minutes. We're

1013
00:55:43,520 --> 00:55:47,080
Speaker 4: always talking about movies that could be shorter. This movie

1014
00:55:47,239 --> 00:55:51,240
Speaker 4: absolutely could be longer, but I think, yeah, I think

1015
00:55:51,280 --> 00:55:54,520
Speaker 4: that at you know, an hour and thirteen minutes, it's

1016
00:55:55,000 --> 00:56:00,200
Speaker 4: the perfect length for this project. And I really do

1017
00:56:00,480 --> 00:56:04,840
Speaker 4: hope that this reminds people like you can have a

1018
00:56:04,880 --> 00:56:07,640
Speaker 4: movie with an animal in it, but guys, you just

1019
00:56:07,680 --> 00:56:10,440
Speaker 4: have to treat the animal well and love the animal

1020
00:56:10,640 --> 00:56:12,480
Speaker 4: and make sure the animal is comfortable.

1021
00:56:12,480 --> 00:56:13,839
Speaker 5: And that is what this movie did.

1022
00:56:13,920 --> 00:56:17,480
Speaker 4: This is the first that's my favorite version from the

1023
00:56:17,560 --> 00:56:22,200
Speaker 4: old school Hollywood way of like, you know, animal exploitation,

1024
00:56:22,360 --> 00:56:23,680
Speaker 4: animal performers.

1025
00:56:24,719 --> 00:56:27,640
Speaker 11: Sure, yeah, it was really interesting. Ben's has this school.

1026
00:56:27,680 --> 00:56:29,440
Speaker 11: He says, keep in mind, and I cannot say this enough.

1027
00:56:29,480 --> 00:56:30,640
Speaker 11: Indy has no idea he's.

1028
00:56:30,560 --> 00:56:31,040
Speaker 1: In a movie.

1029
00:56:31,160 --> 00:56:33,040
Speaker 11: Yeah, the film that looks like he's been through the ringer,

1030
00:56:33,320 --> 00:56:35,959
Speaker 11: but in reality he's just rolling around the mud having

1031
00:56:35,960 --> 00:56:37,719
Speaker 11: the time of his life. They said, you know, it

1032
00:56:37,760 --> 00:56:41,320
Speaker 11: took three years because the dog is not a trained actor,

1033
00:56:41,480 --> 00:56:43,680
Speaker 11: and so what they were doing a lot of times

1034
00:56:43,760 --> 00:56:45,760
Speaker 11: they're like, oh, it's raining, we have that rain scene.

1035
00:56:45,800 --> 00:56:49,000
Speaker 11: Go to the house, dog sit okay, And then they

1036
00:56:49,040 --> 00:56:51,040
Speaker 11: would just roll the camera and see, So what you're

1037
00:56:51,080 --> 00:56:54,239
Speaker 11: getting is actually the dog's natural reactions to its environment.

1038
00:56:54,520 --> 00:56:56,000
Speaker 11: And then they would go back and sort of piece

1039
00:56:56,000 --> 00:56:58,520
Speaker 11: it into the story. They adjusted the story as they

1040
00:56:58,560 --> 00:57:01,160
Speaker 11: went to sometimes with a dog day because they were like, oh,

1041
00:57:01,200 --> 00:57:03,440
Speaker 11: that looks creepy. We can add some additional sound design

1042
00:57:03,520 --> 00:57:06,319
Speaker 11: to make it extra creepy, and it works. So it's

1043
00:57:06,320 --> 00:57:07,960
Speaker 11: not what I really love about this film is it

1044
00:57:08,000 --> 00:57:10,840
Speaker 11: kind of could only be me by someone who is

1045
00:57:10,880 --> 00:57:13,479
Speaker 11: a student of film and he's a professor. Yes, he's

1046
00:57:13,640 --> 00:57:15,960
Speaker 11: you could tell he's like, Okay, it's a little experimental,

1047
00:57:16,000 --> 00:57:17,640
Speaker 11: it's a little weird. I have a ton of time

1048
00:57:17,680 --> 00:57:19,240
Speaker 11: to work on it. I'm not under a budget or

1049
00:57:19,240 --> 00:57:22,480
Speaker 11: a time restraint. It's a it's a unique thing, and

1050
00:57:22,640 --> 00:57:25,160
Speaker 11: I think that's kind of the best thing about festivals

1051
00:57:25,240 --> 00:57:27,120
Speaker 11: is you like, if you go to the Midwest and

1052
00:57:27,400 --> 00:57:28,960
Speaker 11: you go to a film festival, you're going to see

1053
00:57:28,960 --> 00:57:31,200
Speaker 11: somebody who's like dedicated their life to film but has

1054
00:57:31,240 --> 00:57:34,440
Speaker 11: no interest in being famous or successful. Those films are

1055
00:57:34,480 --> 00:57:37,600
Speaker 11: out of this world, weird and good and very logic.

1056
00:57:37,680 --> 00:57:39,480
Speaker 11: The ideas come from that space.

1057
00:57:39,640 --> 00:57:42,520
Speaker 4: The vibe that I got from this was like, and

1058
00:57:42,600 --> 00:57:44,360
Speaker 4: I kind of love that about the Internet.

1059
00:57:44,440 --> 00:57:45,800
Speaker 5: You know, there's a lot of things that are tough

1060
00:57:45,840 --> 00:57:46,560
Speaker 5: about the Internet.

1061
00:57:46,560 --> 00:57:49,040
Speaker 4: We've all lived through it, like we know that it's

1062
00:57:49,080 --> 00:57:52,919
Speaker 4: not necessarily a perfect space. But I do think it's

1063
00:57:53,000 --> 00:57:57,960
Speaker 4: pretty incredible that what is clearly a personal indie pun

1064
00:57:58,000 --> 00:58:01,400
Speaker 4: included because we love Indie the Dog, but independent film

1065
00:58:01,480 --> 00:58:07,200
Speaker 4: project that found an audience online because people were just

1066
00:58:07,240 --> 00:58:10,320
Speaker 4: really excited to see a story like this, And I

1067
00:58:10,360 --> 00:58:14,400
Speaker 4: do have to say, for Indie not being a professional actor,

1068
00:58:14,880 --> 00:58:17,840
Speaker 4: this is one of my favorite dog performances of all

1069
00:58:17,920 --> 00:58:22,760
Speaker 4: time because the way they shoot him understanding that he

1070
00:58:22,920 --> 00:58:28,440
Speaker 4: is a dog and then highlighting the most incredible kind

1071
00:58:28,480 --> 00:58:34,600
Speaker 4: of emotional, beautiful little micro expressions on his face.

1072
00:58:34,720 --> 00:58:35,720
Speaker 5: You get so many.

1073
00:58:35,640 --> 00:58:39,560
Speaker 4: Beautifully lit shots of Indie's face and India as he's

1074
00:58:39,600 --> 00:58:44,800
Speaker 4: trying to, you know, come to terms with what is occurring.

1075
00:58:44,840 --> 00:58:46,000
Speaker 5: Okay, what I want to ask.

1076
00:58:45,840 --> 00:58:48,680
Speaker 4: You guys, And this is We're going full fall spoiler

1077
00:58:48,720 --> 00:58:50,560
Speaker 4: here because I'm just interested and I feel like this

1078
00:58:50,600 --> 00:58:51,280
Speaker 4: is gonna be one of.

1079
00:58:51,200 --> 00:58:54,120
Speaker 5: Those big dog, I mean, big horror conversations.

1080
00:58:55,160 --> 00:58:57,600
Speaker 4: The end of the movie, as you hinted at, is

1081
00:58:57,640 --> 00:59:00,160
Speaker 4: about you know, the owner part.

1082
00:59:00,240 --> 00:59:04,480
Speaker 5: Is away, but it also has this.

1083
00:59:04,480 --> 00:59:08,400
Speaker 10: Element of ambiguity, almost.

1084
00:59:08,040 --> 00:59:13,800
Speaker 4: Ambiguity of like what is happening? Is this how Indie

1085
00:59:13,800 --> 00:59:20,440
Speaker 4: perceives his master's death? Is the death? Is the creature

1086
00:59:20,560 --> 00:59:26,160
Speaker 4: something negative? Or is it just a fear of death?

1087
00:59:26,520 --> 00:59:29,840
Speaker 4: Like what do you think it represents? Is there something

1088
00:59:29,880 --> 00:59:32,840
Speaker 4: in the house via the grandpa? Like this is a

1089
00:59:32,840 --> 00:59:35,160
Speaker 4: almost like a generational kind of.

1090
00:59:35,200 --> 00:59:37,200
Speaker 5: Weight thing, Like how do you read it?

1091
00:59:37,200 --> 00:59:41,960
Speaker 4: Because I did find the moment where they say that

1092
00:59:42,160 --> 00:59:45,480
Speaker 4: the moments at the end with Todd and Indy is

1093
00:59:45,560 --> 00:59:48,240
Speaker 4: like some really heartbreaking, beautiful stuff.

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Speaker 5: And I was just trying. I was like, did they

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Speaker 5: add the kind of dark figure.

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Speaker 4: As a real figure or an a like a kind

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Speaker 4: of metaphorical figure.

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Speaker 5: Where do you guys land on it?

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Speaker 10: When I when I watched it, I interpreted that as

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Speaker 10: a meta metaphor for like, hmm, the cancer or whatever,

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Speaker 10: a sickness.

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Speaker 5: I think it's like a chronic It's like a chronic

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Speaker 5: lung disease. Yeah, it runs in that family.

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Speaker 10: That was taking over his body. That's how I interpreted that.

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Speaker 5: Yeahs can I give you my please? Please? Because I

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Speaker 5: think it's so interesting.

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Speaker 1: This is this is my woke theory, Okay.

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Speaker 11: So you can read it as demonic or as like

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Speaker 11: cancer is work, and that's kind of the the appeal

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Speaker 11: to it. I like to hybrid it and say, this

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Speaker 11: house in New Jersey is near a chemical plant. Everyone's like,

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Speaker 11: I can't believe you're living in this house. Nobody stays

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Speaker 11: here too long. People keep doing what are you doing?

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Speaker 11: And I'm like, it's the land. The land is there's.

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Speaker 1: Weird es and.

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Speaker 11: No, I really feel like like there's there's it's all around,

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Speaker 11: because even the dogs like like there's a fox at

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Speaker 11: one point, and you're like, that's not.

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Speaker 1: Constantly shrouded in stuff. You're like this whole space.

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Speaker 5: Exactly.

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Speaker 4: Yes, Yes, I think that's a great read, Joel, because

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Speaker 4: also I think that is an area of horror that

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Speaker 4: I'm really excited to hopefully see people start exploring more,

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Speaker 4: because I have read so many terrifying, incredibly well researched,

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Speaker 4: well reported articles about the realities of how the capitalist

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Speaker 4: system has destroyed so many spaces and how even in La,

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Speaker 4: even right where I am in South La, I live

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Speaker 4: right near the refinery thanks to environmental racism that puts

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Speaker 4: all the refineries and ports down in predominantly black and

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Speaker 4: Mexican areas, And we have so many stories here of

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Speaker 4: young people getting cancer from the land, young people getting

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Speaker 4: asthma that turns into chronic lung disease. So I actually think, Joel,

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Speaker 4: that you are onto something really cool there, because also

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Speaker 4: there's kind of this inevitability that the moment he moves into.

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Speaker 5: The house, you can kind of feel that he's gonna die.

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Speaker 4: There's like this acceptance of moving that isolating yourself, and

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Speaker 4: I think it's what a dog does.

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Speaker 11: And there's even a moment where there's like, oh, he's

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Speaker 11: like maybe i'll I do want to live and he

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Speaker 11: tries to go get help and they're like it's too late,

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Speaker 11: like because he really hits for being so tight, like

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Speaker 11: hits on all of these like really intense emotional beats

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Speaker 11: that ending.

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Speaker 5: Very well thought.

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Speaker 1: I'm not expecting to cry, y'all, And I was broke.

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Speaker 11: You're a good boy, but you can't say that.

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Speaker 5: I was like, oh my god, my face.

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Speaker 11: Why it just just to really highlight how and and

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Speaker 11: really what it is is like it's a kudos to

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Speaker 11: the filmmakers because again, the dog is just hanging out

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Speaker 11: with its owners.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't know.

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Speaker 11: But I would like, if I had to, I would

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Speaker 11: put this performance on like the same level as like Jed,

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Speaker 11: who's like the wolf dog from It, who has like

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Speaker 11: like that dog is in that movie performing he's like

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Speaker 11: invested in this character. And you get that same vibe

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Speaker 11: from Indy Uh, who coincidentally is also uh George Lucas's

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Speaker 11: Dog's name. Doesn't they named the character Indiana Jones after

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Speaker 11: I'm remembering that.

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Speaker 9: Yes, correct.

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Speaker 4: And then the joke is that in the movie you

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Speaker 4: find out that he named himself after a dog too,

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Speaker 4: you just don't find out the movie.

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Speaker 5: So yeah, so name your Dog movie, I guess. I

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Speaker 5: just I'm really happy that this movie exists.

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Speaker 4: I am so happy that the three of us on

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Speaker 4: this podcast and we can, you know, do coverage like

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Speaker 4: this because Good Boy literally debuted at number nine out

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Speaker 4: of ten at the box office in the same ten

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Speaker 4: in the same box office top ten as Taylor Swift

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Speaker 4: official release party of a show Go One Battle after

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Speaker 4: Another and The Smashing Machine. This is like a huge

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Speaker 4: moment for indie horror and for animal horror that is

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Speaker 4: not exploitative, something that we have not really gone. Also

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Speaker 4: currently on ran Tomorrow's ninety one percent wow of.

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Speaker 5: Over one hundred reviews are positive. And I just think this.

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Speaker 4: Is a wonderful movie and I'm really excited for you

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Speaker 4: guys to watch it. And you know what, Joel though

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Speaker 4: and common, let's give our warning if you are a

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Speaker 4: dog parent who is going to watch this movie, ye

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Speaker 4: should you do to prepare your dog?

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Speaker 10: Well, this is a great thing. I wanted to mention

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Speaker 10: this because we were fortunate enough to receive screen or links. Everybody,

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Speaker 10: go see this in the theater. Absolutely support this in

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Speaker 10: the box office. I'm going to go see it in

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Speaker 10: the theater to support the box office.

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Speaker 4: And the good thing is if you can't, it will

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Speaker 4: be coming to shut us, so you willbean.

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Speaker 10: Yes, if you're able to see it in theaters, go

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Speaker 10: see it. But if you can't at home with the dogs,

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Speaker 10: I it depends and you know your dog. But my

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Speaker 10: dogs do pretty fine with seeing dogs on TV. They're

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01:05:13,560 --> 01:05:17,120
Speaker 10: curious and they're interested, but they I feel like they

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01:05:17,280 --> 01:05:21,160
Speaker 10: don't think that it's like a real dog. They have

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01:05:21,400 --> 01:05:24,400
Speaker 10: figured out it's a TV. I think I'm not trying

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Speaker 10: to brag that my dogs are super smart or something smart.

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Speaker 4: All the X ray vision dogs are very smart guys,

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Speaker 4: no question.

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Speaker 10: But while I watched this movie on the sofa with

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Speaker 10: my two dogs, they were very interested and engaged in

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Speaker 10: this movie. They were locked in like watching this movie

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01:05:43,480 --> 01:05:47,680
Speaker 10: and they I swear my littlest dog, my youngest dog, Specs,

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Speaker 10: was invested in what was going on with Indy was

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Speaker 10: was really but Joel had a totally different experience. Joel

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Speaker 10: what was Yeah?

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Speaker 11: So Lions was into it at first because she too

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01:05:57,960 --> 01:05:59,520
Speaker 11: loves watching an animal on TV.

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Speaker 1: She's like, what's happening? Her favorite show is Blue Ye,

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Speaker 1: I put it off.

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Speaker 5: She's such a.

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Speaker 11: She truly, But when there's the dog wins, the dog

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Speaker 11: in the movie is not hurt, I just can't.

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Speaker 1: Oh, yes, we get it, we hear.

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Speaker 4: You, and.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 11: But when the dog wind it was distressing her. Her ears

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01:06:20,160 --> 01:06:21,920
Speaker 11: went back and she was like looking at me, like,

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Speaker 11: why are they crying? What's going on? So I wanted

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Speaker 11: to putting my headphones in and giving lines a.

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Speaker 1: Treat so she could.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 11: So if your dog responds to like my dog, if

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01:06:29,800 --> 01:06:32,520
Speaker 11: she hears puppies crying, I think she knows in the

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Speaker 11: same way that Carmen's dog knows, like that's a speaker.

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Speaker 1: They're not here, but the cries just really get to her.

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Speaker 5: So aware, be thoughtful.

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Speaker 4: And I'm gonna say, look as somebody who doesn't have

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Speaker 4: a dog, because you know what, my landlord won't let

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Speaker 4: me have a pet.

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Speaker 5: Like let me have a pet in my apartment.

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Speaker 4: But I will say also that was actually of all

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Speaker 4: the movie, that was the first time.

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Speaker 5: That the owner leaves Indy in the house.

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Speaker 4: When Indy realizes there's something wrong in the house. When

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Speaker 4: he was lining, I just started immediately tearing up and

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01:07:09,320 --> 01:07:12,560
Speaker 4: was like, oh my god, I don't know, like so good,

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Speaker 4: so well done.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, I don't leave my dog like that, Like oh,

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Speaker 11: he just put a bull of food down and was

1241
01:07:19,200 --> 01:07:23,040
Speaker 11: like peace out. I was like, what I was with

1242
01:07:23,120 --> 01:07:24,920
Speaker 11: my dog? I put her in her candle and she's

1243
01:07:24,960 --> 01:07:25,920
Speaker 11: like exactly.

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Speaker 4: I literally we were just babysitting our friend's sweet dog.

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01:07:30,840 --> 01:07:36,280
Speaker 4: And when I whenever we'd leave them, I was like, Okay,

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01:07:36,440 --> 01:07:38,720
Speaker 4: you got the doughnut on, you got the food, you

1247
01:07:38,840 --> 01:07:41,480
Speaker 4: gotter like, you've got a TV on? Like I'm like,

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Speaker 4: I say, you're just leaving this dog in this dark

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Speaker 4: ass house. Put the radio on at least like something something.

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Speaker 5: But we get it. He's sick. He's a man. They

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Speaker 5: have to.

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Speaker 4: You know. It's really tough to be excited to do

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01:07:54,280 --> 01:07:57,480
Speaker 4: so much, to do so much. But yes, delightful, Okay,

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Speaker 4: anything you would recommend before leave? Two other people who

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Speaker 4: really love this movie. Like I said, very unique movie,

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Speaker 4: not necessarily something that I have seen anything like before,

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Speaker 4: but you know you could if you watch this.

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Speaker 5: I think this could make him.

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Speaker 1: What's the animated cat flow that came out with.

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Speaker 11: I think that's the closest thing, extremely vibe.

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Speaker 4: I would also say, if you're going for the if

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Speaker 4: you're feeling like you need a little cry, which all

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Speaker 4: of us do in twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 5: This is a good double bill with this and The

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Speaker 5: Wild Robot, I would be.

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Speaker 4: The frying, the love of animals, the beautiful filmmaking, because

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Speaker 4: that's the other thing I want to say.

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Speaker 5: This movie look good as.

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Speaker 1: Hell good, really gorgeous.

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Speaker 4: What's good it's cinematography, the lighting, the way they use

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Speaker 4: the shadows in the house.

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Speaker 5: So yeah, I would I love that, Joel. I think

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Speaker 5: flow is a great call.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I think The Wild Robot is like very emotionally in

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01:09:01,520 --> 01:09:02,919
Speaker 5: tune with this movie.

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Speaker 4: Also, guys, have you ever watched The First Airbod That's

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01:09:06,840 --> 01:09:10,120
Speaker 4: a movie about that is a movie about ghosts and

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Speaker 4: dogs and all kinds of stuff, and so yeah, definitely

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Speaker 4: never a bad time to jump in. Ohs, focus.

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Speaker 5: Okay, guys, there you have it.

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Speaker 4: You've got to watch My fun Oh no, don't, oh no,

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01:09:26,720 --> 01:09:29,840
Speaker 4: don't watch flu because then you'll really be crying, like,

1284
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Speaker 4: why is a dad.

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Speaker 5: Turning into a dog? Okay, get a dad out of

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01:09:32,880 --> 01:09:36,160
Speaker 5: my dog? I just want the dog. But yes, love

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Speaker 5: the scream queens. Love you guys joining.

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Speaker 4: Us, Thank you so much. Okay, guys, it is Friday,

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Speaker 4: which means thank goallectus.

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Speaker 5: It's Friday.

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Speaker 4: Let's wrap up by sharing one thing. We are all

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Speaker 4: excited to do this.

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Speaker 5: We can.

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Speaker 2: Jason, I am excited to fly back from New York

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01:09:56,520 --> 01:10:01,519
Speaker 2: City and playgos of of your day on my on

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01:10:01,560 --> 01:10:03,360
Speaker 2: my PlayStation and play with my.

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Speaker 1: Dogs at your comic con. But we'll be.

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Speaker 2: Done at that point. Yeah, Jason's like I I love

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Speaker 2: Comicon but it's like Vegas. I love, and then you're done.

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Speaker 4: Don't exactly overst and remember to try and eat a vegetable.

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Speaker 5: Aaron, what will you be doing this weekend?

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Speaker 6: So my friends and I over this summer started doing

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01:10:27,840 --> 01:10:30,960
Speaker 6: rooftop movies. We have one of my friends has an

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01:10:31,000 --> 01:10:34,360
Speaker 6: apartment building that has a great like little sitting area

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01:10:34,439 --> 01:10:37,400
Speaker 6: with a screen, and most of the weekends nobody has

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Speaker 6: been up there. And this I think is our maybe

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Speaker 6: last weekend that we can really do a nice, comfortable,

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Speaker 6: no snow and maybe we won't have snow in a month,

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Speaker 6: but like it will be our last kind of summary

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Speaker 6: rooftop movie. And we have a friend in from out

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Speaker 6: of town, which just means, in true New York fashion,

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Speaker 6: we're getting a couple of pizzas. We're gonna go watch something.

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Speaker 6: Last time we watched twenty twelve, we watched Jurassic Park two,

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Speaker 6: The Lost World okay, and we watched Wet Hot American Summer.

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Speaker 7: For the last three ones, he did, I would love.

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Speaker 5: Eat some pizza.

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Speaker 6: The premise is someone has to like give a quick

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Speaker 6: presentation about the movie. So like mine was Lost World,

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Speaker 6: and I just like talked about how much I love

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Speaker 6: dinosaurs and then like gave people dinosaur facts throughout.

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Speaker 5: Oh, that's so fun.

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Speaker 6: And we have a scientist who gave us all the

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Speaker 6: information about like why the science of twenty twelve like

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Speaker 6: actually kind of works in some ways it doesn't. So

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Speaker 6: that's that's my My My weekend plan is to have

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Speaker 6: one more summer rooftop movie.

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Speaker 5: I love that.

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Speaker 1: Carmen comment.

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Speaker 10: Well, I am very excited to see my friend Jennie

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Speaker 10: Danger play at the Variety Playhouse this weekend. Ooh, she's

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Speaker 10: very very proud that she is on tour. She's been

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Speaker 10: selected to be the opening act for the John Mouse tour.

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Speaker 10: So if you're going to see John Mouse at any

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Speaker 10: point she will be the opening act and I'm going

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Speaker 10: to say you're in Atlanta this weekend.

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Speaker 5: That's my plan, and.

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Speaker 10: Taking the dogs to the dog park because they're good

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Speaker 10: boys and they deserve they deserve.

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Speaker 5: Joel, how about you, Rosie, you know my plans.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna be with you.

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Speaker 5: Entire series.

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Speaker 1: I'm very very exciting.

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Speaker 5: And Aaron, it will also be an out I have.

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Speaker 4: I have managed to set out my projector outside, so

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Speaker 4: me and Joel will be joining you.

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Speaker 5: This is like more of a deck top. It's on

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Speaker 5: top of my garage. I wouldn't call it a roof

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Speaker 5: there free it's higher up than the floor.

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Speaker 7: If it's the roof of the garage, it still counts exactly.

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Speaker 4: Well, it sounds like a good fun weekend guys. Well,

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Speaker 4: thank you all for joining us. We love to have

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Speaker 4: you on here.

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Speaker 5: Jason, thank you for coming in from New York.

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Speaker 9: City.

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Speaker 2: Never go to plate about there. I am for this episode.

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Speaker 2: Thanks Will Wisling. Will we back them all with the

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Speaker 2: Biggest No Little week Boy x ray Vision is hosted

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Speaker 2: by Jason Sepcion and Rosie Knight and is a production

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Speaker 2: of iHeart Podcasts.

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Speaker 4: Our executive producers are Joel Monique and Aaron Kurtman.

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Speaker 2: Our supervising producer is Abuza par.

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Speaker 4: Our producers are Common, Laurent Dean Jonathan and Bay Wack.

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Speaker 2: A theme song is by Brian Vasquez, with alternate theme

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Speaker 2: songs by Aaron Kaufman.

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Speaker 4: Special thanks to Soul Rubin, Chris Lord, Kenny Goodman and

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