WEBVTT - What's wrong with Jesús Luzardo?

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<v Speaker 1>Hi, this is Jason Utah. Welcome to the Philly Show.

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<v Speaker 2>Ruben Tomorrow, Junior, Jim Salisbury, Todd's lucky. It's a Philly Show.

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<v Speaker 2>It's Friday, June sixth, twenty twenty five. Guys.

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<v Speaker 3>The uh the Phillies have lost six out of the

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<v Speaker 3>last seven games. They lost a two to one nail

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<v Speaker 3>bier on Wednesday. Mcabel pitches well though, and then Thursday

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<v Speaker 3>series finale.

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<v Speaker 2>Jesus is Arta.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know what's going on, guys. How are you

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<v Speaker 3>guys doing? First of all? Second of all, I mean Ruben,

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<v Speaker 3>you were in the booth.

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<v Speaker 2>How you watching echo? What is going on right now?

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<v Speaker 4>I mean that's exactly I'm looking over at tom like

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<v Speaker 4>the entire time, like, oh my god, crazy it It

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<v Speaker 4>is amazing. And the interesting thing about it is, I

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<v Speaker 4>mean it's happening early in the at bats.

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<v Speaker 5>It's early, and often it is barrel.

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<v Speaker 4>Contact, like hard, hard contact, and it's happening like almost

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<v Speaker 4>on every fastball. And then there are other pitches that

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<v Speaker 4>are he's getting whacked around on. He's left some you know,

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<v Speaker 4>breaking stuff and some change ups up.

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<v Speaker 5>In the zone.

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<v Speaker 4>But I was talked to some guys yesterday about it

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<v Speaker 4>and like he's a sinker ball pitcher, like he's got

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<v Speaker 4>really really good movement typically, and his fastball right now.

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<v Speaker 5>Seems really sort of flat.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, it's ninety seven, but it doesn't have like

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<v Speaker 4>the action on it at the plate that it has

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<v Speaker 4>had in the early part of the season. And they're

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<v Speaker 4>getting good looks. For the life of me, I cannot

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<v Speaker 4>believe how good the swings are.

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<v Speaker 6>Against him over the last two outings, and everything's on

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<v Speaker 6>the barrel, and it just strikes to me that they

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<v Speaker 6>they're picking something up that they know every pitch is coming,

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<v Speaker 6>or many of them, and he might be tipping him

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<v Speaker 6>either that or something's happened.

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<v Speaker 4>In his delivery that's allowing him to be a little

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<v Speaker 4>bit flatter with his stuff overall. And it's just staying

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<v Speaker 4>in the zone too long and not doesn't have the

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<v Speaker 4>same sort of life at the zone such that it

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<v Speaker 4>takes it off the barrel. It's it's I mean, I'd

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<v Speaker 4>have to go back and look at tapes to see

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<v Speaker 4>what's going on. I'm sure that Caleb Cotham and Rob

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<v Speaker 4>Thompson and so many others are doing that right now,

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<v Speaker 4>and I'm sure that the player himself is going what

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<v Speaker 4>in the hell is going on too? And it sounded

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<v Speaker 4>like after the postgame interviews that's exactly where he was right.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's been incredible.

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<v Speaker 7>I cannot think of another situation where we've seen a

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<v Speaker 7>picture on course for the All Star Game and maybe

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<v Speaker 7>to start the All Star Game and then to absolutely

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<v Speaker 7>you know, it's like a you know, a bungee jump.

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<v Speaker 7>He's just fallen and it really does look like they,

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<v Speaker 7>at least in Toronto, it looked like they knew what

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<v Speaker 7>was coming. I mean, Bashett sold out on that swing.

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<v Speaker 7>He looked like he knew what was coming.

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 7>I tend to think we always talk now about tip

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<v Speaker 7>and pitches, and I think it's.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot rareer.

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<v Speaker 7>It's a lot more rare than people think, but we

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<v Speaker 7>always say it. It's like, you know, you get almost

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<v Speaker 7>tired of hearing it. But something's amiss. He has eclipsed

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<v Speaker 7>his innings totals from last year. Maybe that's affecting his

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<v Speaker 7>finish in that last little.

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<v Speaker 1>Bit of life. But Hitters look awfully comfortable on this guy.

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<v Speaker 7>And when Hitters starts seeing guys squaring it up, squaring

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<v Speaker 7>it up consistently over and over, they all get confidence.

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<v Speaker 7>That confidence ripples through a batrack, and you know they

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<v Speaker 7>the previous start in Philadelphia, these guys pay attention, and

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<v Speaker 7>then in this start in Toronto. Personally, I think the

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<v Speaker 7>hitters look super comfortable, and I think you start there

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<v Speaker 7>moving the feet, you got to crowd them, come up

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<v Speaker 7>and in. You've got to put something in the back

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<v Speaker 7>of these hitters' heads that you're not gonna get too

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<v Speaker 7>comfortable against me, because hitting, you know, you have to

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<v Speaker 7>be comfortable to hit. And if you can upset that

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<v Speaker 7>level of comfort, you can have more success as a pitcher.

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<v Speaker 7>Something's got to be done there as they dig into

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<v Speaker 7>this and find out what is going on.

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<v Speaker 3>Jesus is our in his first eleven starts, I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>sixteen runs and sixty seven innings, last two starts twenty

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<v Speaker 3>runs and five and two thirds innings, two point one

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<v Speaker 3>five era. Last Friday, when we recorded an episode last Friday,

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<v Speaker 3>the Reese Hoskins episode, he had a two to one

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<v Speaker 3>five era. Now it's four to four six. First pitcher

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<v Speaker 3>in baseball history. It allowed twenty earned runs in fewer

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<v Speaker 3>than six innings in a span of two starts. Now, Jim,

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<v Speaker 3>you mentioned you haven't seen something like this. A guy

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<v Speaker 3>go from cy Young candidate NL All Stars, started to

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<v Speaker 3>have two starts like this. I went back and I

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<v Speaker 3>looked at the last time the Phillies pitchers that have

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<v Speaker 3>allowed eight or more runs, because he allowed eight on

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<v Speaker 3>Thursday against Toronto. The last Phillies pitchers to allow eight

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<v Speaker 3>plus runs in consecutive starts. And I thought this list

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<v Speaker 3>was kind of interesting. So the last Phillies pitcher to

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<v Speaker 3>do it was Aaron Nola in June of twenty sixteen.

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<v Speaker 3>Now remember Aaron Nola in twenty sixteen. A month later,

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<v Speaker 3>he went on the injured list at elbow and did

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<v Speaker 3>not pitch the rest of the season. So that was

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<v Speaker 3>Aaron Nola bad elbow. The last pitcher before that was

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<v Speaker 3>Roy Halliday April May of twenty thirteen. Yeah, well he

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<v Speaker 3>was you remember now he made those two starts, he

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<v Speaker 3>went on the injured list.

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<v Speaker 2>Had right shoulder surgery.

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<v Speaker 3>The last pitcher before that was Adam Eaton in July

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<v Speaker 3>of two thousand and eight. Those are the last two

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<v Speaker 3>starts he ever made for the Phillies. He made two

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<v Speaker 3>relief appearances after that and then never pitched for the

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<v Speaker 3>Phillies again. So those are the last three Phillies pitchers

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<v Speaker 3>to have back to back performances like this, and all

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<v Speaker 3>three of those guys Nola elbow, Halliday shoulder, Adam Eaton,

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<v Speaker 3>he was probably just washed up at that point.

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<v Speaker 7>I mean, well, health is the first Health is the

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<v Speaker 7>first thing we think of with when we see a

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<v Speaker 7>guy have two starts like Lozaro.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, there's an injury. Is he healthy?

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<v Speaker 7>But you know the big telltale on health is Velo

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<v Speaker 7>and he was humping ninety eight yesterday, so you know

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<v Speaker 7>what gives.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean it could be a health issue. I

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<v Speaker 4>don't think it is. I don't think he's complained about it.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't think he's talked about it. I don't think that.

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<v Speaker 4>Having just looked at the stuff, the ball coming out

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<v Speaker 4>of his hand. Now it's a little flatter, but it's

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<v Speaker 4>still stuff, and you know, obviously there's something going on.

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<v Speaker 4>He knows he needs to fix it. He knows he

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<v Speaker 4>needs to fix it fast because you know he needs.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, he's a competitive kid man. I mean, this

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<v Speaker 5>kid wants to do well. He's a great kid.

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<v Speaker 4>We've got a chance to chat with him, and you

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<v Speaker 4>know he has a high expectation of himself. He changed

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<v Speaker 4>things up by going with the corn Rows to Jeddie

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<v Speaker 4>because he's a very superstitious kid as well. So you know,

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<v Speaker 4>it's it's it's mind boggling. There's something going on. They'll

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<v Speaker 4>figure it out. The Phillies are smart. The kid is

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<v Speaker 4>a smart kid. He's an athletic kid, and if there's

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<v Speaker 4>adjustment needs to be made, he'll figure it out. But

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<v Speaker 4>something does need to get figured out because.

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<v Speaker 5>It's not sustainable.

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<v Speaker 4>Obviously not sustainable if he continues a bitch like that,

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<v Speaker 4>and it really does put a little chink in the

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<v Speaker 4>armor there as far as the as far as the

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<v Speaker 4>overall quality of that starting rotation.

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<v Speaker 1>No question. And the foundation of this team is that

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<v Speaker 1>starting staff.

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<v Speaker 5>And now you start. Yeah, now you've got.

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<v Speaker 7>The world's longest sprained ankle, and you got you know,

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<v Speaker 7>you know, Wheeler attending to his family, which is which

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<v Speaker 7>is fine, but you know.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't have a hit or doesn't have his base,

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<v Speaker 1>his foundation. He's got nothing. This team doesn't have his

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<v Speaker 1>starting rotation, its foundation. It's it's in trouble.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I agree with that.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, last Phillies pitcher to low twenty runs or

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<v Speaker 3>more in consecutive appearances was Dutch Schlessler in nineteen thirty one,

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<v Speaker 3>a couple of relief appearances.

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<v Speaker 2>Believe it or not.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, back in the day, He's got as would

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<v Speaker 3>come in the third inning and pitch eight inning or

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<v Speaker 3>seven innings, six innings in an extra inning game. Last

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<v Speaker 3>Phillies pitchered allow twenty twenty runs or more in consecutive

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<v Speaker 3>starts Ray Bengi in nineteen thirty So, I mean, we

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<v Speaker 3>haven't seen something like this. Twenty runs are more in

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<v Speaker 3>consecutive starts by the Phillies pitcher in almost one hundred years,

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<v Speaker 3>which is you think of? I mean, yeah, you just

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<v Speaker 3>think of all the guys they have pitched on one

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<v Speaker 3>hundred years and Jesus Zardo Ray Bengi and.

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<v Speaker 1>The bullpen had to suck up all those innings. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>on Thursday, haven't.

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<v Speaker 4>Now after this evening they have to have a bullpen

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<v Speaker 4>game with chill Ross starting.

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<v Speaker 5>And that's uh, that's problematic.

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<v Speaker 7>All this starting push, all this starting pitching after we've

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<v Speaker 7>been talking about for the last two weeks.

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<v Speaker 1>Now they have a freaking bullpen game.

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly right, Hey, guys, this weekend, the Phillies are in Pittsburgh.

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<v Speaker 2>They say Delco's a lot, and they're right.

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<v Speaker 5>You guys are a lot. We got there, guys, I.

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<v Speaker 7>Want to I want to give a shout out to

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<v Speaker 7>one of my good buddies, Ed Crowley listening to the

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<v Speaker 7>pod and Dunedin, Florida, and of course he runs Delco's

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<v Speaker 7>Cheese Steaks.

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<v Speaker 1>They're on Main Street and Dunedin.

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<v Speaker 3>Awesome Delco's, Yeah and Yeah, and they're right behind home

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<v Speaker 3>plate at at Bake hair Ballpark as well.

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<v Speaker 7>He told me a great story that Fred McGriff apparently

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<v Speaker 7>comes in there all the time and nobody recognizes him.

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<v Speaker 2>Is that right?

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<v Speaker 5>I hung out.

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<v Speaker 4>I hung out with Fred McGriff at a bar in

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<v Speaker 4>Atlanta one time.

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<v Speaker 5>We stood in the corner and not no one knew

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<v Speaker 5>who he was.

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<v Speaker 7>I had four hundred and ninety six home runs, one

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<v Speaker 7>of the great gentlemen of the game, great player, and

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<v Speaker 7>he comes in and gets his cheese steak and walks

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<v Speaker 7>out the door.

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<v Speaker 1>I would have him autographed the cheesesteak.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's gotta get that autograph for sure.

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<v Speaker 5>Man.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, we were talking ahead Ruby, you know, we were

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<v Speaker 4>talking a little bit about their their pitching, but the

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<v Speaker 4>offense is the issue that I'm.

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<v Speaker 5>Not a little concerned about. What do you think?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, Ruben, I wanted to ask you this and Jim

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<v Speaker 2>Jim as well.

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<v Speaker 3>And the offense is that I think that what they

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<v Speaker 3>scored six runs in the first game of that series,

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<v Speaker 3>they scored four runs.

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<v Speaker 2>In the final Let's do the masks, thanks Jim. Four

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<v Speaker 2>runs in the final twenty sixth innings.

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<v Speaker 3>And I want to ask you guys about it. About

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<v Speaker 3>the leadoff hitter right now. Bryson sid this is a

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<v Speaker 3>guy that we've talked about, can be a three hundred hitter.

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<v Speaker 3>We have talked about him. You know, he would make

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of sense in the leadoff spot. They've won

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of games since he moved in the leadoff

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<v Speaker 3>spot in mid April. But since May one, Bryson Stott

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<v Speaker 3>is batting one ninety six, two home runs, eleven RBIs

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<v Speaker 3>five eighteen ops.

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<v Speaker 2>He has a two point fifty on base percentage in

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<v Speaker 2>that span. And I'm wondering, do we start talking about

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<v Speaker 2>making a change in the leadoff spot. I mean, he's

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<v Speaker 2>seen it.

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<v Speaker 3>He sees a lot of pitches, which is great, but

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<v Speaker 3>you also at some point have to have some production

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<v Speaker 3>up there. And he's he's absolutely he's been scuffling for

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<v Speaker 3>more than.

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<v Speaker 2>A month now.

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<v Speaker 4>I've be an advocate of him being in a one

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<v Speaker 4>role forever, and I really think that he has the

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<v Speaker 4>tools to do it. But he's going through a month

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<v Speaker 4>long slump right now. That that has heard him that

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, they it's amazing that they did so well

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<v Speaker 4>in May, just in general without any real production from him. Again,

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<v Speaker 4>I still have some confidence that he can, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>bounce back. But if in the next you know, a

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<v Speaker 4>week or ten days or whatever, he doesn't get going,

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<v Speaker 4>then I'll just go ahead and slide Turner up there

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<v Speaker 4>and let him roll with the way Turner's.

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<v Speaker 5>Been swinging the bat. He's been in all the whole field.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm I'm a little shocked that that Bryce is not.

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<v Speaker 4>That Bryson has not you know, continued to develop, because

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<v Speaker 4>I think he still has those tools and and those

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<v Speaker 4>abilities and bat the ball skills and the base running ability.

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<v Speaker 4>But you know, they're seeking wins and they need to

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<v Speaker 4>do that by with production, and uh, they're not getting

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<v Speaker 4>it right now. I would stay with him for another

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<v Speaker 4>couple of weeks and see how that goes, and continue

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<v Speaker 4>that sort of platoon against lefties and righties. But you know,

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<v Speaker 4>he has not, he has not come through lately. I

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<v Speaker 4>think he's much better than he's shown in this past month.

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<v Speaker 4>But he also has to get it done because it's

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<v Speaker 4>a it's a production business, and if you're not getting

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<v Speaker 4>the production done, then it becomes very, very difficult to

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<v Speaker 4>win baseball games.

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<v Speaker 7>I would not stick with him for a couple more weeks.

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<v Speaker 7>I would do something this weekend. I mean, and I'm

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<v Speaker 7>a patience guy. I think patience is a very very

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<v Speaker 7>valuable virtue in baseball. I think it's needed. It's just

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<v Speaker 7>because of the nature of the sport. Every day there's ups,

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<v Speaker 7>there's downs. A lot can be dictated by the guy

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<v Speaker 7>on the mound that night, and sometimes you just tip

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<v Speaker 7>your hat. And but as much as I would advocate

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<v Speaker 7>for some patience, I do think there's a time when

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<v Speaker 7>the manager says this ain't good enough, and you know,

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<v Speaker 7>shake things up and trade. Turner is getting on base,

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<v Speaker 7>he's using the whole field. He's figuring out ways to

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<v Speaker 7>get on on first base, which is, to me, the

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<v Speaker 7>job of a leadoff me. I think I'm not saying

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<v Speaker 7>I would sit start, but I would.

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<v Speaker 1>I would shake that.

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<v Speaker 7>Lineup up, get Turner up top, move, move Stot down.

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<v Speaker 7>Like I said, this ain't good enough, and you know

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<v Speaker 7>they've lost. They've had a tough little stretch here. This

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<v Speaker 7>is about the time last year. It's exactly the time

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<v Speaker 7>last year when they went into a tough stretch. I

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<v Speaker 7>think you need to nip it, and I think you

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<v Speaker 7>need to send a little message. And you know it

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<v Speaker 7>won't I don't think it'll hurt.

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<v Speaker 3>Month of the season, I was looking trying to see

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<v Speaker 3>if there's anything kind of cooking in the numbers and

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<v Speaker 3>Stott first month April through the end of April's batting

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<v Speaker 3>three sixty eight off of fastballs.

0:17:24.119 --> 0:17:27.520
<v Speaker 2>In May he batted two fourteen off of fastballs.

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<v Speaker 1>The last year he didn't hit fastballs.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, last year he didn't hit fastballs. Now it's interesting.

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<v Speaker 3>So the expected numbers, right, and the expected batting average,

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<v Speaker 3>that's basically just what they expect you to hit based off.

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<v Speaker 2>Of exit velocity, launch angle and those types of things.

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<v Speaker 3>Expected numbers off the fastball in April was too eighty seven,

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<v Speaker 3>expected off the fastball in May was two ninety seven.

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<v Speaker 3>So if you if you wanted to, you could say,

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<v Speaker 3>maybe he's run into some bad luck in May, some

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<v Speaker 3>balls didn't find hole or he hit him right at guys,

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<v Speaker 3>and maybe there's certainly something to that, but you know,

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<v Speaker 3>there's been some at bats recently that you certainly could

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<v Speaker 3>have been a.

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<v Speaker 2>Lot better, I guess.

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<v Speaker 3>So I just wanted to throw that out there in

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<v Speaker 3>terms of bryce and size, is this offense continues to struggle.

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<v Speaker 4>So the offense in the last two games, he went

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<v Speaker 4>five for thirty one in each game. Ten for sixty two. Wow,

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<v Speaker 4>ten for sixty two. I think those are the right numbers.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not big numbers, guys, but that's pretty much. I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>you're not getting it done. But ten for sixty two

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<v Speaker 4>with this kind of lineup, and you know, they faced

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<v Speaker 4>some decent pitching. Those guys are you know, yeah, but

0:18:38.080 --> 0:18:39.960
<v Speaker 4>they have to be able to hit good pitching and

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<v Speaker 4>that's you know, that's part of being a good but

0:18:42.880 --> 0:18:46.000
<v Speaker 4>ball club and it starts to strike. This is a

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<v Speaker 4>good test because they are again they're going to face

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<v Speaker 4>Skins again in Pittsburgh and see how they handle him again.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, Skins pitched brilliantly against him last time, and

0:18:57.240 --> 0:19:00.199
<v Speaker 4>he's a brilliant pitcher. But they're gonna have to make

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<v Speaker 4>some adjustments. I guess some other guys have got to

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<v Speaker 4>face and there's some good pitching. They have to make

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<v Speaker 4>adjustments and do some damage against those guys too. So, uh,

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<v Speaker 4>I am concerned about this offense because it's not rolling

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<v Speaker 4>the way you would expect it to roll right now.

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<v Speaker 4>And this was a good test after playing those poor

0:19:15.840 --> 0:19:19.080
<v Speaker 4>teams and some of those really bad bullpens. Now they're

0:19:19.080 --> 0:19:21.800
<v Speaker 4>playing some a little bit better teams and they're not producing,

0:19:22.480 --> 0:19:25.159
<v Speaker 4>and uh so there should be some level of concern.

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<v Speaker 4>And I'm sure there is that front office and the

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<v Speaker 4>people in uh, you know, in the coaching staff. I'm

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<v Speaker 4>sure that they're thinking, Okay, why are we not playing

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<v Speaker 4>better baseball. Let's let's kick it in gear a little bit.

0:19:36.840 --> 0:19:39.800
<v Speaker 4>And uh, you know they're gonna have to you know,

0:19:39.840 --> 0:19:41.320
<v Speaker 4>they're gonna have to do that. They're gonna have to

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<v Speaker 4>gear up and and uh and make some adjustments and

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<v Speaker 4>and perhaps make some changes because in the back part

0:19:49.040 --> 0:19:52.159
<v Speaker 4>of that lineup right now, it's almost dead water and

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<v Speaker 4>they're not doing a whole lot.

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<v Speaker 5>It's not uh, it's not happening at the back end

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<v Speaker 5>of that lineup.

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<v Speaker 4>After Casianos right now, who's been really consistent. You got

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<v Speaker 4>to give some love to the guy because he's been

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<v Speaker 4>one of their most consistent. Is didn't close to three

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<v Speaker 4>hundred and or if not three hundred and beyond that,

0:20:11.359 --> 0:20:16.200
<v Speaker 4>they're getting nothing, like literally almost nothing, and they need

0:20:16.280 --> 0:20:18.480
<v Speaker 4>to have some more production from the back end of

0:20:18.560 --> 0:20:22.720
<v Speaker 4>that lineup because it's been it's been light, super.

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<v Speaker 7>Light left left field, left field, center fielding, no left field,

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<v Speaker 7>center fielding, catcher, not get much.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Max, Max Kepler in the last month has bet

0:20:32.720 --> 0:20:35.800
<v Speaker 3>in one sixty eight. So, uh, you know this and

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<v Speaker 3>that's and that's not well, he's he's faced a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of lefties in that time. It's almost exclusively against right handed,

0:20:41.480 --> 0:20:43.600
<v Speaker 3>right handed pitching, which he's supposed to, which he came

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<v Speaker 3>here to kind of like blow up and and and

0:20:46.080 --> 0:20:49.040
<v Speaker 3>that hasn't happened. So yeah, no doubt the offense they need,

0:20:49.119 --> 0:20:50.399
<v Speaker 3>they need to get it going. And this kind of

0:20:50.400 --> 0:20:52.199
<v Speaker 3>plays into the whole wall they you know, who did

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<v Speaker 3>they beat a.

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<v Speaker 2>Couple of weeks ago. They beat all these bad teams

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<v Speaker 2>and so now, you know.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, becomes a reality if you if if if these

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<v Speaker 4>guys don't start playing the day the way that they've

0:21:04.760 --> 0:21:05.840
<v Speaker 4>you know, they're expected to.

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<v Speaker 2>Play, right, were you guys?

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<v Speaker 3>So Taiwan Walker came in yesterday Thursday and pitching inning

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<v Speaker 3>and relief, and everybody's like, all right, we're gonna see

0:21:14.400 --> 0:21:16.520
<v Speaker 3>what is how his stuff jumps. It's gonna jump, and

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<v Speaker 3>we're gonna get him, give him a look as a

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<v Speaker 3>as a late inning guy, and I want to see

0:21:20.720 --> 0:21:22.280
<v Speaker 3>what he does in one ending way. He comes out

0:21:22.480 --> 0:21:25.679
<v Speaker 3>and I think the fastballs popped out at popped out

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<v Speaker 3>at ninety three.

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<v Speaker 2>To me, that was a little disappointing just one appearance,

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<v Speaker 2>you know.

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<v Speaker 3>I guess Rob Thompson said after the game that you know,

0:21:34.320 --> 0:21:38.320
<v Speaker 3>Taiwan didn't necessarily have maybe the time that he needed

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<v Speaker 3>to properly warm up. But it's just I'm just mentioning

0:21:43.200 --> 0:21:45.960
<v Speaker 3>it because this is something that we're gonna so hopefully

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<v Speaker 3>then next time, if that's the case, he gets enough

0:21:47.880 --> 0:21:50.800
<v Speaker 3>warm ups and he comes out and he starts throwing

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<v Speaker 3>a little bit harder because I think everybody's hoping that

0:21:52.840 --> 0:21:54.840
<v Speaker 3>the stuff plays up because they need him.

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<v Speaker 2>To help this bullpen out.

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<v Speaker 4>So I stated this in the in the broad cast,

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<v Speaker 4>and I think this is somewhat true, and you don't

0:22:04.200 --> 0:22:07.520
<v Speaker 4>really know exactly where he is until he's pitching in

0:22:07.640 --> 0:22:10.600
<v Speaker 4>a situation where the game's on the line and the

0:22:10.640 --> 0:22:11.560
<v Speaker 4>adrenaline's flown.

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<v Speaker 5>It's eight nothing. The game meant absolutely nothing. At that point.

0:22:16.359 --> 0:22:18.320
<v Speaker 4>They were not going to win the game unless some

0:22:18.520 --> 0:22:22.560
<v Speaker 4>miracle like that what happened in Atlanta yesterday was going

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<v Speaker 4>to happen, which is rare.

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<v Speaker 5>That's crazy.

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<v Speaker 4>We can talk about that a little bit more of

0:22:26.240 --> 0:22:29.159
<v Speaker 4>what's going on with some of these games, but the

0:22:29.280 --> 0:22:32.240
<v Speaker 4>reality of it is that when you have an adrenaline

0:22:32.320 --> 0:22:34.879
<v Speaker 4>rush out of that bullpen and you know you have

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<v Speaker 4>to get three outs to win the game or to

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<v Speaker 4>keep the game in hand, uh, there's a totally different

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<v Speaker 4>feel than going into an eight nothing game. For the

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<v Speaker 4>first time you're coming into the out of the bullpen.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm sure he's going, I know I have to do this,

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<v Speaker 4>but this is like a spring training game for me.

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<v Speaker 4>And so that's a that's a that's a totally different

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<v Speaker 4>for a veteran guy who's been the starter his whole career,

0:22:59.200 --> 0:23:02.480
<v Speaker 4>pretty much his whole career. Now he's and deserves sort

0:23:02.520 --> 0:23:05.639
<v Speaker 4>of to stay in the starting rotation. Now he's relegated

0:23:05.720 --> 0:23:08.280
<v Speaker 4>to the bullpen. He's supposed to be playing, playing, pitching

0:23:08.320 --> 0:23:10.640
<v Speaker 4>and important innings and he's coming in an eight nothing game.

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<v Speaker 4>I know why he did it. I know why Rob

0:23:13.200 --> 0:23:14.840
<v Speaker 4>did it. He had to get him the feel of

0:23:14.920 --> 0:23:18.679
<v Speaker 4>coming out of the bullpen and getting ready and pitching

0:23:18.920 --> 0:23:21.879
<v Speaker 4>in one inning. But I think it's gonna be a

0:23:22.000 --> 0:23:23.959
<v Speaker 4>little bit different. I mean, he did his job, got

0:23:24.000 --> 0:23:27.840
<v Speaker 4>his three outs, but it's gonna be different when it's

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<v Speaker 4>time for him to uh to try to lock down

0:23:30.760 --> 0:23:33.119
<v Speaker 4>a game or to keep a game in hand. And

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<v Speaker 4>I'm interested in that situation much more than a one

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<v Speaker 4>that he just came in on.

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<v Speaker 1>Totally agree that was There was no adrenaline there. It

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<v Speaker 1>was mop up.

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<v Speaker 7>It was like the night Joe Girardi had to get

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<v Speaker 7>on the phone with Nick Pavetta trying to convince him

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<v Speaker 7>to come into that game years ago.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so I don't think that's an accurate judge.

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<v Speaker 7>But I've always said, I'm I'm I don't know how

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<v Speaker 7>the stuff is going to play out in the bullpen.

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<v Speaker 7>And you know, I don't know if ninety two or

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<v Speaker 7>three is going to play out there unless you're really precise,

0:24:05.400 --> 0:24:08.280
<v Speaker 7>unless that breaking ball is really good, unless that split

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<v Speaker 7>is dancing. And I just don't know how it's gonna

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<v Speaker 7>work out there. We're not talking about, you know, a

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<v Speaker 7>young kid like like a mick Abel.

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<v Speaker 1>He's had this little tick in velocity since he's come up.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, stuff is playing a little hard. I guess

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<v Speaker 1>it's adrenaline and whatnot.

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<v Speaker 7>But I think a young kid, he put him out

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<v Speaker 7>in the bullpen, you might get a little bit more

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<v Speaker 7>on the fastball in a short spurt. A guy with

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<v Speaker 7>all those innings, you know, over thirty years old. I

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<v Speaker 7>don't know that there's going to be a huge tick

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<v Speaker 7>up in stuff, but I guess we're gonna find out.

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<v Speaker 7>But it's tough to find out in a mop up

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<v Speaker 7>situation because I'm sure he was thinking I.

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<v Speaker 3>Got to go into this thing, you know, Jim, On

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<v Speaker 3>on Wednesday, we were taking listener question reader questions. Listener

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<v Speaker 3>question your questions.

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<v Speaker 1>Nobody reads anymore?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no one reads anymore well on your phone on

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<v Speaker 2>their phone, they do?

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<v Speaker 3>I do.

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<v Speaker 5>Uh.

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<v Speaker 3>We were we were talking about mick Abel, and you said, man,

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<v Speaker 3>at some point he keeps doing this, I'm gonna not

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<v Speaker 3>be thinking about who the Phillies might be able to

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<v Speaker 3>get for mick Abel. I'm going to be thinking about

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<v Speaker 3>how he can help the Phillies in a in a

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<v Speaker 3>roll down the stretch and man, what you see him

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<v Speaker 3>pitch on Wednesday night and you're going, maybe they got

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<v Speaker 3>hold out of this guy.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, it's funny.

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<v Speaker 7>I could see he kind of lost his mechanics and

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<v Speaker 7>think it was the sixth in he did kind of

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<v Speaker 7>pull the ball a little bit, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>But my point was, you know, last year he couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>throw strikes.

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<v Speaker 7>You're like, and then over the winter you're thinking, well,

0:25:45.640 --> 0:25:48.640
<v Speaker 7>maybe they can get something for him, or last year

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<v Speaker 7>at the at the deadline.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe they can get something for him.

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<v Speaker 7>Now I'm starting to you know, when you drive up

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<v Speaker 7>ninety five and you get to like Center City and

0:25:58.520 --> 0:26:01.280
<v Speaker 7>you start to see the Ben Franklin and you see

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<v Speaker 7>those two humungo granite pillars on which the Ben Franklin

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<v Speaker 7>Bridge springs from.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm thinking, Painter and Abel. I don't know that I

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<v Speaker 1>want to do anything.

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<v Speaker 5>You know.

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<v Speaker 4>Uh, you know some of those teams that didn't want

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<v Speaker 4>to trade for Abel because of his stock last year

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<v Speaker 4>are kicking themselves. Yeah, I guarantee you right now, the

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<v Speaker 4>A's or the Saint Louis Cardinals or some other teams

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<v Speaker 4>are going, God, we could have got a damn good

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<v Speaker 4>pitcher last year and maybe even a really good third basement. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>because there is this there. This kid has developed really

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<v Speaker 4>nicely so far. You know, the proof is still in

0:26:46.800 --> 0:26:49.280
<v Speaker 4>the pudding. He still has to continue to pitch and

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<v Speaker 4>do it for a long time. But from what I've seen,

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<v Speaker 4>as far as his poise and the way he's handled

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<v Speaker 4>himself and his focus, I've been super impressed by what

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<v Speaker 4>he's done.

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<v Speaker 5>And yeah, you're right about that.

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<v Speaker 4>He hit a little bit of a wall in the

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<v Speaker 4>sixth inning, went into the stretch and sort of started struggling,

0:27:07.560 --> 0:27:09.719
<v Speaker 4>and his mechanics got away from him a little bit,

0:27:10.040 --> 0:27:11.600
<v Speaker 4>but they did a good job of getting them out

0:27:11.640 --> 0:27:14.720
<v Speaker 4>of there. But they didn't give him a whole lot

0:27:14.760 --> 0:27:17.959
<v Speaker 4>of offensive support, no, sadly, And they didn't give him

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<v Speaker 4>any defensive support, and.

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<v Speaker 1>In no way. No, you're right about the defense that

0:27:24.320 --> 0:27:25.400
<v Speaker 1>that ball's got to be caught.

0:27:25.600 --> 0:27:27.200
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, the ball in center field has to be caught,

0:27:27.920 --> 0:27:28.680
<v Speaker 5>has to be caught.

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<v Speaker 7>You need a guy who can put stuff away. You know,

0:27:33.280 --> 0:27:36.399
<v Speaker 7>those are not errors, but they're plays that a sharp

0:27:36.960 --> 0:27:40.040
<v Speaker 7>team makes. But with able, I'm not suggesting he's anywhere

0:27:40.200 --> 0:27:43.560
<v Speaker 7>near a finished product. There's there's gonna be a night

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<v Speaker 7>when he gets his nose bloodied.

0:27:46.040 --> 0:27:48.680
<v Speaker 5>And honestly, I'm interested to see how he bounces back

0:27:48.720 --> 0:27:50.000
<v Speaker 5>from that to Jim.

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<v Speaker 7>That it'll be good for him, yes, and how he

0:27:53.400 --> 0:27:58.239
<v Speaker 7>bounces back and it becomes a growth moment. But right

0:27:58.400 --> 0:28:00.480
<v Speaker 7>right now, and I'm not just saying and it's about

0:28:00.480 --> 0:28:02.080
<v Speaker 7>the two starts he's had in the big leagues, I'm

0:28:02.119 --> 0:28:04.200
<v Speaker 7>saying about that little body of work over the first

0:28:04.240 --> 0:28:08.200
<v Speaker 7>two months in Triple A, threw more strikes, seems more

0:28:08.320 --> 0:28:11.680
<v Speaker 7>comfortable in his own skin, seems more confident letting that

0:28:11.880 --> 0:28:12.720
<v Speaker 7>talent kind of.

0:28:12.920 --> 0:28:16.280
<v Speaker 1>Bubble to the surface. You just really have to like

0:28:16.400 --> 0:28:17.040
<v Speaker 1>what you see.

0:28:17.880 --> 0:28:21.159
<v Speaker 7>And and you know the potential that Brian Barber and

0:28:21.240 --> 0:28:24.720
<v Speaker 7>all his guys saw, they saw it for a reason.

0:28:25.119 --> 0:28:27.360
<v Speaker 7>And you know, he's still a very very young man.

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<v Speaker 7>So you know, I'm just thinking about what he might

0:28:33.200 --> 0:28:38.200
<v Speaker 7>become with with with Painter at the top, and who knows.

0:28:38.280 --> 0:28:42.200
<v Speaker 1>It's a fickle game, but kind of like like the.

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<v Speaker 7>Possibility of those two young men as uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 7>twin studs.

0:28:47.040 --> 0:28:48.800
<v Speaker 1>But you know, we'll see how things develop.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's what everybody was talking about.

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<v Speaker 4>Hey, I wanted to go back a little bit Todd

0:28:52.720 --> 0:28:55.040
<v Speaker 4>and talk about the bullpen because I saw a couple

0:28:55.080 --> 0:28:55.480
<v Speaker 4>of guys.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, we talked about who can they acquire.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, is the guy from you know are from

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<v Speaker 4>Tampa Bay, you know the couple of you know, a

0:29:04.200 --> 0:29:07.680
<v Speaker 4>couple of Mason Miller and you know all those other guys. Well,

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<v Speaker 4>I saw a left hander in Toronto and Brandon Little,

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<v Speaker 4>the kid from brynmar who was lights out. You want

0:29:15.040 --> 0:29:19.760
<v Speaker 4>somebody to replace Alvarado? Holy smokes. This guy's quote unquote

0:29:19.800 --> 0:29:24.440
<v Speaker 4>knuckle curve. It's really a slider, is filthy and it's nasty.

0:29:24.560 --> 0:29:28.000
<v Speaker 4>And he's been outstanding in the last couple of that's

0:29:28.040 --> 0:29:31.520
<v Speaker 4>six weeks or so, he's been lights out, really impressive

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<v Speaker 4>with what I've seen from him. I mean, that's the

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<v Speaker 4>sort of under the radar type of arm that they

0:29:37.840 --> 0:29:41.480
<v Speaker 4>are probably trying to pursue right now, to give them

0:29:41.480 --> 0:29:43.680
<v Speaker 4>a little bit of depth in that in that bullpen,

0:29:43.800 --> 0:29:47.880
<v Speaker 4>to give Matt Strom and Tanner Banks an extra left

0:29:47.920 --> 0:29:51.320
<v Speaker 4>handed arm to help them, or even a right handed arm,

0:29:51.360 --> 0:29:54.200
<v Speaker 4>doesn't matter which one. But that's the type of picture

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<v Speaker 4>I think that would be interesting to try to acquire.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know what's gonna take to get him.

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<v Speaker 1>The Jay's are in. I'm just I don't.

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<v Speaker 5>Think the Jays will trade him.

0:30:04.480 --> 0:30:06.840
<v Speaker 4>I'm just saying, I mean, that's sort of a veteran,

0:30:07.480 --> 0:30:09.720
<v Speaker 4>sort of a veteran guy right now because he's twenty eight,

0:30:09.760 --> 0:30:10.560
<v Speaker 4>twenty nine years old.

0:30:10.600 --> 0:30:11.960
<v Speaker 5>He hasn't pitched a lot in the big leagues.

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<v Speaker 4>But but that's the type of player that you sort

0:30:17.480 --> 0:30:20.680
<v Speaker 4>of want to see that somebody's who is sort of

0:30:20.800 --> 0:30:24.000
<v Speaker 4>under the radar but has can have real effective stuff

0:30:24.840 --> 0:30:27.480
<v Speaker 4>to get outs, important outs in the back end there.

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<v Speaker 3>So this weekend Phillies in Pittsburgh, Ruby, you got, you

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<v Speaker 3>got quite the view.

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<v Speaker 2>You must have the VIP suite behind it.

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<v Speaker 1>The GMS.

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<v Speaker 5>You may have a suite. I do not have a suite.

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<v Speaker 4>Let me start. Let me start with that one. I

0:30:44.320 --> 0:30:46.440
<v Speaker 4>guess you have a suite. I used to have sweets

0:30:47.240 --> 0:30:49.560
<v Speaker 4>when I was in assistant GM and the GM when

0:30:49.600 --> 0:30:50.640
<v Speaker 4>you were when you were sweet.

0:30:51.440 --> 0:30:55.120
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, when I was much sweeter. Uh but uh, but

0:30:55.280 --> 0:30:56.680
<v Speaker 5>this is the US Steel Building.

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<v Speaker 4>It's a beautiful building back there, and it's actually I

0:30:59.840 --> 0:31:02.800
<v Speaker 4>like aberg I love their ballpark. Love It's always been

0:31:02.840 --> 0:31:06.000
<v Speaker 4>in the top five for me yep, and looking forward

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<v Speaker 4>to it. The weather's not great. I think we're gonna

0:31:07.760 --> 0:31:10.440
<v Speaker 4>get through these first two games, okay, dancing in the

0:31:10.640 --> 0:31:14.280
<v Speaker 4>in the rain a little bit. But they got to

0:31:14.280 --> 0:31:16.600
<v Speaker 4>do a little damage against the old Pittsburgh Pirates because

0:31:16.640 --> 0:31:17.920
<v Speaker 4>that's an abysmal offense.

0:31:18.200 --> 0:31:19.040
<v Speaker 5>I mean abysmal.

0:31:19.600 --> 0:31:22.160
<v Speaker 4>I'm talking about an abysmal offense, and they need to

0:31:22.280 --> 0:31:25.640
<v Speaker 4>do some damage against it. Their pitching's okay, and that's

0:31:25.640 --> 0:31:27.880
<v Speaker 4>a good that'll be good test for these guys. Offensively,

0:31:28.000 --> 0:31:29.520
<v Speaker 4>they got to do some damage here, so.

0:31:29.600 --> 0:31:32.360
<v Speaker 3>Maybe they can muddle through this bullpen game. On Friday night,

0:31:32.440 --> 0:31:34.280
<v Speaker 3>Joe Ross is going to start. I guess he's going

0:31:34.360 --> 0:31:38.479
<v Speaker 3>to go to two plus innings. That's the plan anyway,

0:31:38.600 --> 0:31:41.360
<v Speaker 3>and they're going to hopefully, hopefully he's going to go

0:31:41.480 --> 0:31:44.320
<v Speaker 3>to two innings, maybe two plus innings if he can

0:31:44.600 --> 0:31:49.840
<v Speaker 3>get through that lineup facing former Phillies Lefty Bailey Falter

0:31:50.880 --> 0:31:52.160
<v Speaker 3>that Saturday.

0:31:51.760 --> 0:31:54.080
<v Speaker 2>He's been throwing, well, yeah, he has been. You know,

0:31:54.200 --> 0:31:56.960
<v Speaker 2>think about how is Philly's career ended when.

0:31:56.840 --> 0:31:59.560
<v Speaker 3>He's terrible last year, but he's bounce back. Yeah, but

0:31:59.560 --> 0:32:02.600
<v Speaker 3>he's bound back. And then Saturday it's Ranger Swarz versus

0:32:02.640 --> 0:32:08.480
<v Speaker 3>Andrew Haney, and then Sunday is Christopher Sanchez versus Paul Schemes.

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<v Speaker 7>So hey, Ruben, You've got a beautiful view of the

0:32:12.440 --> 0:32:14.600
<v Speaker 7>US Steel Building, but you got nothing on me. I

0:32:14.680 --> 0:32:16.960
<v Speaker 7>got a beautiful view of the Chester County Prison.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, Jim is doing this from his warden suite.

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<v Speaker 5>Are you the wardeners and the wharden.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just a yeah, I'm just an inmate.

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<v Speaker 5>I understand.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, guys, uh, Ruben, enjoy the weekend in Pittsburgh and

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<v Speaker 3>we will be back on Monday.

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<v Speaker 1>Smell you, lated, boys.

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<v Speaker 5>Jim.

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