WEBVTT - Episode 300: Killing Mr. Perfect (DeVon Franklin)

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<v Speaker 1>What Epics Lift Service, and you know we're starting every

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<v Speaker 1>episode with a woman on top courtesy a Delhian. And

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<v Speaker 1>today we are giving a toast to Kimberly Godwin. She's

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<v Speaker 1>a veteran of local and national TV news operations, and

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<v Speaker 1>he is the next president of ABC News and the

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<v Speaker 1>first black executive to run a broadcast network news operation. Right, yes, yeah, now.

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<v Speaker 1>Kimberly god When actually is a graduate of Florida A

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<v Speaker 1>and M University, the School of Journalism and Graphic Communication,

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<v Speaker 1>and she's also a veteran award winning broadcast news executive.

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<v Speaker 1>She'll be overseeing Good Morning America, World News, tonight, Nightline

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<v Speaker 1>eight of You and this week, which is huge, So congratulations.

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<v Speaker 1>She is joining ABC News in May. At CBS. Prior

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<v Speaker 1>to this, she supervised four hundred domestic and foreign affiliates,

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<v Speaker 1>the units, national News Deck and its bureaus and standards

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<v Speaker 1>and ethics, among other duties. So congratulations to Kimberly god When.

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<v Speaker 1>She is our woman on top of seek Women's Old Top.

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<v Speaker 1>And yeah, Gloria, we are drinking and Friday, I got

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<v Speaker 1>that rapper on it and everything. I felt bad drinking

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<v Speaker 1>in front of you like this, but I'm gonna have

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<v Speaker 1>to do it you. It's all loved. But Divine Franklin

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<v Speaker 1>is here and he has no expectations for you, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>Just damn quite that he loves us to stop it

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<v Speaker 1>and he loves you guys. It's just but he has

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<v Speaker 1>no expectations. I just want to have. So let's talk

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<v Speaker 1>about this because Divine you have a new book that's

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<v Speaker 1>coming out made for it, So can you tell us

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit about it. Yeah, it's called Live Free

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<v Speaker 1>Exceeds Your Highest Expectations, And it's all about how to

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<v Speaker 1>set expectations. You know, in my experience, so often everyone

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<v Speaker 1>is living by the expectations of others, their friends, their family,

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<v Speaker 1>their upbringing, their partners, but not really living by their

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<v Speaker 1>own expectations. And so as a result, they're not living free.

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<v Speaker 1>When you and I don't live free, we under the

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<v Speaker 1>control mostally specially monicely, by someone else or something else.

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<v Speaker 1>And so this is all about the our learning to

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<v Speaker 1>set expectations for yourself. You I can life created to

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<v Speaker 1>live and that's what the book's about. It's all about expectations.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you by are they You're choosing in the area

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<v Speaker 1>of personal expectations, cultural expectations, relationship expectations, and professional expectations.

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<v Speaker 1>And this book gives you the tips and tools on

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<v Speaker 1>how to set expectations in every area of your life. Navin,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you for writing this book for me because I

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<v Speaker 1>definitely need it. Okay, you heard it comes out me

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<v Speaker 1>for I think you had me and mind while you

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<v Speaker 1>was writing this book, because I definitely can use this

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<v Speaker 1>type of motivation and push to um realign myself into

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<v Speaker 1>where I need to be. You know, we got a

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<v Speaker 1>little preview of it, right because they did send us

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<v Speaker 1>something right before we actually are recording this. And one

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<v Speaker 1>thing that I want to bring up is, you know

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<v Speaker 1>how people always say, okay, it's not you as me

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<v Speaker 1>in relationships when there when it's time to break up.

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<v Speaker 1>But according to you, if you have a problem with

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<v Speaker 1>your spouse, the problem isn't your spouse, The problem is you.

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<v Speaker 1>So can you explain that? Yeah, because so so often

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<v Speaker 1>my experience, this is the easiest thing to do. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>in a relationship, I'm having a problem, and I do

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<v Speaker 1>this a point the finger. That's easy, so easy, and

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<v Speaker 1>most of the times in my experience, it's not this,

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<v Speaker 1>it's this, It's like, okay, is how I'm looking at it.

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<v Speaker 1>Is this here? Because if this, if this is coming

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<v Speaker 1>up of my relationship, is their work that I need

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<v Speaker 1>to do on myself that I hadn't done in the past.

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<v Speaker 1>I was in the past, I got the note I

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<v Speaker 1>needed to work, I didn't want to do it. I

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<v Speaker 1>broke up with that person, and now I'm in a

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<v Speaker 1>situation when the new person work comes up again. Right?

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<v Speaker 1>So am I just gonna keep pointing the thing or say, okay, wait,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe it's me. Maybe I got to do the work

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<v Speaker 1>on me. But I gotta look at my perspective. Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>I am actually contributing to the situation I really don't like,

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<v Speaker 1>and maybe I got to communicate more. Maybe I have

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<v Speaker 1>to set my expectations clearer. Uh so, yeah, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>believe that it's them, it's actually us when there are

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<v Speaker 1>relationship problems, because so many of the problems in my

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<v Speaker 1>experience we can resolve. Now, it doesn't mean that that

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<v Speaker 1>person or that situation. Maybe it's incompatible. But before jumping

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<v Speaker 1>to that place and say, oh, you know what, this

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<v Speaker 1>person will treat me this way, well, do you treat

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<v Speaker 1>yourself that way? You know this person doesn't do what

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<v Speaker 1>I want? Well, have you ever asked them? Have you

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<v Speaker 1>ever here's what I expect? Can you meet the expectation?

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<v Speaker 1>So often we, especially in a relationship, we act like

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<v Speaker 1>just because the person loves us that they know. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not true. They don't know. Just because they love you

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't mean they can read our minds. So I wrote

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<v Speaker 1>that in the book to give the reader really a

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<v Speaker 1>clear view to say, wait, maybe I gotta look in

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<v Speaker 1>the mirror. How to think about me and what problem

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<v Speaker 1>I'm actually contributing to instead of just being so easy

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<v Speaker 1>to point the finger, and here's the reality. We point

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<v Speaker 1>and we get out of something. What we take, who

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<v Speaker 1>we are, where we go, and whatever work we didn't do,

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<v Speaker 1>it's gonna be there whenever we get to the news

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<v Speaker 1>that it's always so why not do the hard work

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<v Speaker 1>of getting the work done in the situation? Even if

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<v Speaker 1>you I'm not talking about anything abusive, but if you're

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<v Speaker 1>a situation you don't like, the relationship isn't great, I

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<v Speaker 1>would challenge you to do the work that you need

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<v Speaker 1>to do on yourself, get that work done, and then

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<v Speaker 1>you move on from a place A piece Why this

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<v Speaker 1>relation was a great teacher I would have never dump

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<v Speaker 1>deep into my trauma if I wasn't forced with particular individuals.

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<v Speaker 1>So instead of leaving an anger and frustration, I leave

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<v Speaker 1>in a blessing. Thank you. Doesn't mean we're compatible, but

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so glad that we had this moment because I

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<v Speaker 1>would have never figured out who I was. Well, what

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<v Speaker 1>if the issue is that, like you keep picking the

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<v Speaker 1>same type of person and in a sense where it's

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<v Speaker 1>like not working for you, because maybe maybe it's not

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<v Speaker 1>really you, you know what I mean as far as

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<v Speaker 1>when it comes to having to effects inner issues, but

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<v Speaker 1>maybe you just fell like, all right, let me give

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<v Speaker 1>this person a chance. Now that's still like do you

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<v Speaker 1>feel like that's still like an inner issue within someone

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<v Speaker 1>where they keep picking somebody that may needs to be

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<v Speaker 1>like helped a little bit along the way. I just

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<v Speaker 1>found this out, which was kind of shocking to me

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<v Speaker 1>in that, you know, I'm the middle child of three boys,

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<v Speaker 1>and my father was an alcoholic and he ended up

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<v Speaker 1>passing away when I was nine years old, when he

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<v Speaker 1>was thirty six, And I recently found out that a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of children of alcoholics, adult children of alcoholics, one

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<v Speaker 1>of the defining traits is finding people that you can

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<v Speaker 1>save because you couldn't save your your your your your parents.

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<v Speaker 1>You you took that in and now you find now

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<v Speaker 1>you find projects people that save right. So so in

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<v Speaker 1>the question, it makes me think of that because so often,

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<v Speaker 1>if there's that pattern that's repeating itself, it maybe because

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<v Speaker 1>you got to go back and look at your upbringing,

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<v Speaker 1>look at what was the trauma that you may have experienced,

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<v Speaker 1>and how come you're seeing these patterns. Maybe there's some

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<v Speaker 1>unresolved issues or maybe there's a revelation about your upbringing

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<v Speaker 1>that you got to come into alignment and agreement with

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<v Speaker 1>that then will help you break the cycle, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>And then also look at what if I'm finding the

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<v Speaker 1>same person and that person is someone exactly want, then

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<v Speaker 1>I have asked the questions and I who I want be? Am?

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<v Speaker 1>I am I actually who I want to be? Because

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<v Speaker 1>maybe I'm attracting those that are being attracted to my presentation.

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<v Speaker 1>But I was gonna say, that's interesting because we're always

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<v Speaker 1>told to have expectations, right, aren't we always told to

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<v Speaker 1>be like, Okay, you gotta make sure that people are

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<v Speaker 1>at a certain level. You gotta have these expectations and

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<v Speaker 1>people should live up to that. And we also have

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of expectations placed on us. And I know

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<v Speaker 1>you discussed that in the book, because it just feels

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<v Speaker 1>like people will always tell you, Okay, well you know

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<v Speaker 1>you gotta stop settling. Well, well, you know it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's settled by whose definition? You know. Too often, especially

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<v Speaker 1>when the competing everybody got an opinion, got something they

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<v Speaker 1>don't know nothing about. What's right for you? Is what's

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<v Speaker 1>right for you? And and just because someone especially when

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<v Speaker 1>it comes to day, there's so much pressure. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>you gotta get in this type of relationship, and you

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<v Speaker 1>gotta do that, and then now you're now you gotta

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<v Speaker 1>get married. And then once you're married, now you gotta

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<v Speaker 1>have kids. And if you don't do what's expected at

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<v Speaker 1>every turn, there's a temptation to internalize that, what's wrong

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<v Speaker 1>with me? Then I get in a relationship, what's wrong

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<v Speaker 1>with me? They haven't asked to marry. What's wrong with me?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't don't have kids yet? Then you get kids,

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<v Speaker 1>what's wrong with me? I don't have the right cred

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<v Speaker 1>you get You see how crazy it is because we

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<v Speaker 1>keep living for everyone else's expectations. That's what I wrote

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<v Speaker 1>this book. It's all about living for it. You gotta

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<v Speaker 1>set expectations for yourself. You decide who am I, how

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<v Speaker 1>do I want to live, where do I want to go?

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<v Speaker 1>And guess what. I'm gonna take control over my life

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<v Speaker 1>because I am tired of living for everybody else and

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<v Speaker 1>not live for myself. And there's a difference. This is

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<v Speaker 1>really important. I don't ask people to be selfish. I

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<v Speaker 1>ask people to self prioritize. And there's a big difference

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<v Speaker 1>when you and are selfish and we want what we

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<v Speaker 1>want and we don't care how we get it and

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<v Speaker 1>who we hurt along the way. What myself prioritized it

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<v Speaker 1>means I take care of my well being before I

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<v Speaker 1>can help enhance your well being. Now, Divine, you know

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<v Speaker 1>this is lip service. And now we've got to take

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<v Speaker 1>it to the bedroom as we're having these conversations about

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<v Speaker 1>expectations and about prioritizing yourself. So how does that translate

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<v Speaker 1>into the bedroom with a partner. Look, don't get the

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<v Speaker 1>scratching now you hell, hello, I wasn't scratching. This is

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<v Speaker 1>this is great, This is so important. So a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of we talk about setting expectations. It's comes down to

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<v Speaker 1>two questions. One is a realistic or unrealistic. How do

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<v Speaker 1>you know is it in or control to do? If

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<v Speaker 1>it's control, I argue that realistic for you to expect

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<v Speaker 1>Number two is it's spoken or unspoken. If you have

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<v Speaker 1>an uncommunicated request or expectation, it's an unset expectation. So

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<v Speaker 1>in order to set expectations in the bedroom, you gotta

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<v Speaker 1>look at both of those things. What's in your control

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<v Speaker 1>and what is what needs to be communicated. In my experience,

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<v Speaker 1>too often you come to the bedroom and you one

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<v Speaker 1>try to control what's it what's not in your control,

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<v Speaker 1>which is how the other person performs. Two an expectation

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<v Speaker 1>of what they're supposed to do that you never even communicated. Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, let's talk about this. Here's what I like,

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<v Speaker 1>Here's what I don't like. What do you like? What

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<v Speaker 1>don't you like? Too often we just you just get

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<v Speaker 1>in the room and expect Oh, magic just happens, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and they don't reduce the magic. That wasn't good. So no,

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<v Speaker 1>if you really want your sex life to go to

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<v Speaker 1>the next level, you gotta set expectations. You know, I say, okay, well,

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<v Speaker 1>what's in my control? And maybe when you want someone

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<v Speaker 1>to please you or us, it's like, okay, well, what

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<v Speaker 1>are the things that I like to begin with? And

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<v Speaker 1>how do I start to communicate those things instead of

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<v Speaker 1>just expecting that somebody who does not even know me

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<v Speaker 1>as well as I know me is gonna know how

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<v Speaker 1>to please me. And then here's the other thing. When

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<v Speaker 1>we talk about living free, this is where the issue

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<v Speaker 1>of sex, especially when you're single, and and this is

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<v Speaker 1>where sex completely imprisoned so many people. How because when I,

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<v Speaker 1>when we talk about living free, living free means I

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<v Speaker 1>am not under the mental, physical, or emotional control of

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<v Speaker 1>anyone or anything. So now let's apply that to sex.

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<v Speaker 1>You you in them or wherever you choose to do it.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's mind blowing, right. But the person they don't

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<v Speaker 1>know you, but they have spent thousands of hours perfecting

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<v Speaker 1>their ability to blow a one or man's mind in

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<v Speaker 1>the bedroom. Right, So now they got you. So they

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<v Speaker 1>may not even be right for you, but it felt

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<v Speaker 1>so good, right, it sounds amazing mind blowing. Right. You

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<v Speaker 1>don't live free because you need it, you know. And

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<v Speaker 1>then what happens is that is the sex begins to

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<v Speaker 1>then cloud the judgment, in cloud the perspective. And then

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<v Speaker 1>let's do the opposite, right, the opposite is what if

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<v Speaker 1>you're in a situation and it's not meeting your expectation

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<v Speaker 1>and it's less than what you want, it's less than one.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it's not blowing your mind, you know, not

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<v Speaker 1>even uh, it's stimulating you anyway, because maybe there's a

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<v Speaker 1>comparison to what was before, having an expectation that somebody

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<v Speaker 1>that you're sleeping with now is supposed to perform like

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<v Speaker 1>someone you slept with them it m hm, And that

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<v Speaker 1>expectation could be that expectation could actually be destroyed a

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<v Speaker 1>good thing, Davion, You've said so much, just now hold them.

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<v Speaker 1>We gotta gotta some of these things. Can you give

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<v Speaker 1>me going that slow down? Have you ever have you

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<v Speaker 1>ever had a conversation about things like before the first

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<v Speaker 1>time you have sex, things you don't like and you know, like,

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<v Speaker 1>please go to that. I haven't, so what are those things?

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<v Speaker 1>G One thing that I don't particularly care for is

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<v Speaker 1>when receiving oral being fingered at the same time, like

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<v Speaker 1>I don't really need your fingers, you know, your mouth

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<v Speaker 1>is just good enough. So um, if in fact that

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<v Speaker 1>comes up in conversation, that's something that I'll definitely will

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<v Speaker 1>let how does that come up in conversation because I

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<v Speaker 1>just look at it like this, if we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>dinner and we're like jilling and we're like vibing, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's just like, you know, just to let you know,

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<v Speaker 1>ever had that yet? But if you do eat my pussy,

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<v Speaker 1>please don't check your motherfuck finger off. One of those type.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm one of those type of women that I will

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<v Speaker 1>ask a man if he if he does it, like you,

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<v Speaker 1>are you eating pussy or no? Because a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>men say they don't do it. So if they do,

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<v Speaker 1>if the buffalo wings you like, you ain't gonna put

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<v Speaker 1>that finger in me? I don't know. Yeah, So that's

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<v Speaker 1>how it will come up because I would really ask

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<v Speaker 1>a man if I plan on having sex with him, Um,

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<v Speaker 1>are you a pussy eater? Is this is something that

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<v Speaker 1>you enjoy? Is this something that you like to do?

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<v Speaker 1>Because and then when I enjoy and once he says yes, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>like okay, by the way, when you're don't put that

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<v Speaker 1>finger there. So I'm not. But y'all know, I'm very

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<v Speaker 1>blunt and open, so I think more so in the

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<v Speaker 1>moment I would do it, and I would be like no,

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<v Speaker 1>like I would stop you. I wouldn't just be like,

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<v Speaker 1>let's talk about this. I'm more of a like in

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<v Speaker 1>the moment kind of person that's like no, no, no no,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I don't like that, Like if a guy, if

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<v Speaker 1>I tried to stick my finger up a guy, if

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean, if you tried to, I

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't talk about it beforehand because I feel like that's

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<v Speaker 1>not so sexy, you know what I mean, Like that's

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<v Speaker 1>not in the moment thing. And I'm like more of

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<v Speaker 1>an in the moment type of person. So I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like if we're discussing everything, like listen, when we do

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<v Speaker 1>have our first kids, don't da da dada. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>feel like I want to give an instruction guy, because

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like and not to say that that's what

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<v Speaker 1>you were doing, because obviously you were saying what you like.

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<v Speaker 1>But in my mind, when I say it or lay

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<v Speaker 1>it out to me, it would be like an instruction guy,

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<v Speaker 1>And I'd rather be like, oh, I don't like when

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<v Speaker 1>he did that, and kind of like either explain to

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<v Speaker 1>him at that time or cut him off. But I

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<v Speaker 1>can't me personally, I can't see myself being like, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>before we have sex, don't put here, don't do this,

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<v Speaker 1>don't do that, and I like this, and don't use

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<v Speaker 1>loud because I'm wed enough, like I don't you know

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<v Speaker 1>what I mean? Like I don't. I wouldn't understand how

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<v Speaker 1>to do that personally. But you're already identifying what's important

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<v Speaker 1>to you what isn't. So you're organizing exploration. You have

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<v Speaker 1>expectation of exploration where you just want to initially explore

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<v Speaker 1>and then you can sort off the finer points. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>there's nothing wrong with that. The expectation is like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>I like to explore. If this goes down, let's just

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<v Speaker 1>see where it goes and we can talk about it

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<v Speaker 1>after you it's clear. Okay, great, bet. Now if there's

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<v Speaker 1>certain things you know, like the deal breakers, and he say, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>just goes down, we are going to future. So I

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<v Speaker 1>need to let you know if it's that important to you. Okay, cool.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it really comes down to what works for you.

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<v Speaker 1>You stick that finger up there, You're done. Now you

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<v Speaker 1>come in. You should communicate that. And then also what

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<v Speaker 1>expectations do you have of your partner, Like do you

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<v Speaker 1>have things that you're like, he better make sure that

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<v Speaker 1>I blah blah blah you know, because think about it sometimes,

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<v Speaker 1>as we all know, the first time you're with somebody,

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<v Speaker 1>it might not live up to what you want, but

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<v Speaker 1>it also is a period of time where you have

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<v Speaker 1>to figure each other out and be able to, Like

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<v Speaker 1>you said, after you explore talking sometimes like Tobama saying

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<v Speaker 1>those expectations are so how you wanted to be mind blowing,

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<v Speaker 1>and then it's not, and maybe you just give up

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<v Speaker 1>instead of saying, let's try to you know a few times.

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<v Speaker 1>Not compatibility, because maybe that's where I mess up on

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<v Speaker 1>things because I look at it like, all right, let's

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<v Speaker 1>see what's gonna happen, and if it works out, then

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<v Speaker 1>this is meant to be. And if it's not, then

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<v Speaker 1>maybe it's just not because we're not compatible, maybe our

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<v Speaker 1>parts don't fit right, or because you know, like some

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<v Speaker 1>people could be like, oh my god, this sex us

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<v Speaker 1>so crazy, and God forbid. You might know that same

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<v Speaker 1>guy or a woman that had sex with them. You're

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<v Speaker 1>like it was like it wasn't terrible to me, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I mean? So I just feel like some

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<v Speaker 1>people are compatible and some are not. So I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like even if you break down the rules, it's like

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<v Speaker 1>it's not gonna work because that's just not your fit,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean, And that's how I usually

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<v Speaker 1>move and live and maybe that's why I'm not married

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<v Speaker 1>in a relations But honestly, in that that it's like, yeah, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>you could live that way. Maybe it's like gambling like roulette,

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<v Speaker 1>but maybe but maybe because there isn't enough communication about

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<v Speaker 1>what is expected and that it's just like you get

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<v Speaker 1>to the point where you get frustrated because you're like, yo,

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<v Speaker 1>you need to know if you know about not everybody

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<v Speaker 1>knows you know. And then also not only people can

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<v Speaker 1>be teachable, but also sometimes it takes time to say, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>got it, this is how this is and this is

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<v Speaker 1>how the rhythm goes. And then also if it's somebody

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<v Speaker 1>you really care and love, as you all growing in love,

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<v Speaker 1>it becomes a greater capacity to give them the opportunity

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<v Speaker 1>to learn how to please you, and then also for

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<v Speaker 1>you to be willing to learn how to place Then

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<v Speaker 1>you just in this area you can't communicate enough, and

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<v Speaker 1>when it comes, if everything else is going really well

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<v Speaker 1>and the sex isn't quite there, you know, maybe that's

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<v Speaker 1>the area where you gotta set the expectations most And

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<v Speaker 1>also give the most prete for growth and to learn

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<v Speaker 1>because you can listen, you have known you for as

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<v Speaker 1>long as you've been on this earth, right, it maybe

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<v Speaker 1>maybe the only couple of months, maybe a year, right,

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<v Speaker 1>So it's like you know, and again it's like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>sure somebody can hit the mark immediately sexually, but then

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<v Speaker 1>you gotta look at like what else is going on

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<v Speaker 1>and how happy are you in other areas? You know,

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<v Speaker 1>you gotta find the balance to right, It's like, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm happy in this area. The sex still needs work.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, I'm gonna do the work on the sex

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<v Speaker 1>because I want to be with this person. I see

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<v Speaker 1>a future. You know what, I don't see a future,

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<v Speaker 1>So all I want is this sex. All right, Well

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<v Speaker 1>my expectation. If the sex ain't good, I'm about you

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<v Speaker 1>gotta then determine how you see this person, what you

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<v Speaker 1>really want from the situation, to then know how to

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<v Speaker 1>navigate the right expectations. Now, I want to ask you

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<v Speaker 1>this divine about something at the game put on social media,

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<v Speaker 1>and I want to get your thoughts. Okay, he said,

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<v Speaker 1>everybody different, but it just ain't in me to let

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<v Speaker 1>my woman share the worry of paying for anything I

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<v Speaker 1>feel good carrying that load. And I'm not changing. If

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<v Speaker 1>you're lucky enough to land an independent woman who works

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<v Speaker 1>her ass off and still come some to cut clean,

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<v Speaker 1>take care of kids, and go crazy sexually, let her

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<v Speaker 1>stack what she makes in case y'all need it one

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<v Speaker 1>day and still handle everything as a man. Why she

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<v Speaker 1>got to pay half the rent? She had given you

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<v Speaker 1>half the pussy And then he said, m wire's killed me.

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<v Speaker 1>Since the beginning of time, real men have always taken

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<v Speaker 1>care of shelter, providing and protecting. And if you ain't

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<v Speaker 1>got it, go get it. Because that is some high

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<v Speaker 1>expectations to place on a man, that he's got to

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<v Speaker 1>take care of everything, even as you stack your own

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<v Speaker 1>money as a woman. So what are your thoughts about

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<v Speaker 1>something like that? You know again, I think you gotta

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<v Speaker 1>live free. You can't, as even as a man, be

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<v Speaker 1>under mental, emotional or physical control of the humanity or

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<v Speaker 1>the idea. And and too often you know that works

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<v Speaker 1>for a man and a woman in their relationship, and

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<v Speaker 1>that works for them. I think it's dangerous when you

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<v Speaker 1>to take ideas and apply it across the board, because

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<v Speaker 1>you know there are some women that you know are

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<v Speaker 1>saying Hey, look, I make a certain amount of money

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<v Speaker 1>and I actually want to contribute, you know, like that

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<v Speaker 1>actually briefs joy, you know, and and I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to who just wants to do everything because then what happens.

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<v Speaker 1>Come on, let's just be honest about us as men.

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<v Speaker 1>Not every man is doing their work. So when a

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<v Speaker 1>man pays, there's an expectation with what comes with that payment. Control. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm ringing Mario's bell because I've been there, scation, because

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<v Speaker 1>the man was taking care of everything and he held

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<v Speaker 1>it over my head and where he got and and

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<v Speaker 1>at this point in my life, I am not in

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<v Speaker 1>that situation any longer. It feels so much better to

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<v Speaker 1>be able to still maintain my same lifestyle and provide

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<v Speaker 1>these things for myself without a man, you know, like

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<v Speaker 1>I'll take gifts and I'll take help, but the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that I can do these things on my only, it

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<v Speaker 1>just feels so much better to know a doct it

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<v Speaker 1>on my own. So absolutely. And also I think there's

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<v Speaker 1>a there's a thing you know that this is why

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<v Speaker 1>I wrote my last book, Truth about Men. And also

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<v Speaker 1>when I'm writing this book is that but oh, thank you,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you. I had three copies and two of them

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<v Speaker 1>are missing, which means people, well, I love it, I

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<v Speaker 1>love it he as men. To me, part of where

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<v Speaker 1>we are right now is not falling into the traps

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<v Speaker 1>in the tropes of what it needs to be a

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<v Speaker 1>man and and defining a lot of that with money

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<v Speaker 1>and dominance. You know, No, to me, manhood is communication, care, consideration,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, lead, but leadership through about what works for

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<v Speaker 1>you. You You know, if you're in a situation where that's

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<v Speaker 1>what the woman wants. But let's say, as the man,

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<v Speaker 1>you are not able to do that, not because you

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<v Speaker 1>have the passage, You're just not there on your journey.

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<v Speaker 1>So then you then try to live up to that

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<v Speaker 1>expectation and you feel less than I don't think that's

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<v Speaker 1>very healthy at all, you know, I mean at all.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean when Megan and I got married, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>she way, she made way more money than me at time.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, now we've been married nine years, and you

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<v Speaker 1>know it's about even if not me making more Like

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<v Speaker 1>if her expectation was, man, I gotta marry a dude

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<v Speaker 1>who's making as much as me, we would be married. Sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>I have capacity to make that amount of money. It

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<v Speaker 1>just takes time. You know, and so I understand you

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<v Speaker 1>know where my brother is coming from. I would just

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<v Speaker 1>challenge any person, any man, any woman, it's not fall

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<v Speaker 1>into these these different uh roles without identifying if they

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<v Speaker 1>If that's really what you want to do, don't just

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<v Speaker 1>go into it because what society wants or you saw

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<v Speaker 1>some post on Instagram got a lot of trash. That's

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<v Speaker 1>the worst reasons to say that. But because then that

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<v Speaker 1>makes me think of guys like Derek Jackson or whatever

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<v Speaker 1>that actually come out and say like they like they

0:24:08.960 --> 0:24:13.560
<v Speaker 1>have these certain values and people follow behind them thinking like, Okay,

0:24:13.560 --> 0:24:16.720
<v Speaker 1>well this man is married, he's been in a relationship

0:24:16.760 --> 0:24:20.440
<v Speaker 1>for eight years, that's relationship goals. You know. So what

0:24:20.680 --> 0:24:22.720
<v Speaker 1>you even saying that, like just because it's on the

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<v Speaker 1>internet or whatever the case, don't you shouldn't necessarily follow it.

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<v Speaker 1>But this is what you you're bringing up a really

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<v Speaker 1>great point. And I just I want to say this

0:24:30.600 --> 0:24:32.600
<v Speaker 1>the whole thing with Derrick Jackson. You know, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know the brother. I didn't even get into the new

0:24:35.359 --> 0:24:37.440
<v Speaker 1>show watching all the videos, but of course I understand

0:24:37.440 --> 0:24:41.480
<v Speaker 1>what happens right here. Here's here's one thing, one observation

0:24:42.280 --> 0:24:45.760
<v Speaker 1>that I took away as a man who's in the

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<v Speaker 1>public eye, who obviously has written books and has a

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<v Speaker 1>lot to say about relations my affect to what men

0:24:54.200 --> 0:24:57.240
<v Speaker 1>women should and shouldn't do. I looked at the situation

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<v Speaker 1>and said, first of all, we as men have to

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<v Speaker 1>do everything we can and are to make ourselves uncomfortable

0:25:04.400 --> 0:25:05.760
<v Speaker 1>to tell the truth. And what I mean by the

0:25:05.760 --> 0:25:08.480
<v Speaker 1>truth is that it's very easy for me as a

0:25:08.520 --> 0:25:11.000
<v Speaker 1>man to come on show like this and advise and

0:25:11.040 --> 0:25:14.919
<v Speaker 1>give great wisdom. That's easy. The truth of the matter

0:25:15.080 --> 0:25:19.320
<v Speaker 1>is every man is an imperfect messenger because I'm still

0:25:19.400 --> 0:25:22.840
<v Speaker 1>a man, and so yes, I have ideas and thoughts

0:25:23.200 --> 0:25:25.760
<v Speaker 1>and I live by those as best I can. But

0:25:25.840 --> 0:25:29.080
<v Speaker 1>I also understand the internal struggle of being a man,

0:25:29.480 --> 0:25:32.240
<v Speaker 1>and it's not easy. And so when I saw with

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<v Speaker 1>that Derrick Jackson thing, Mike was like, whoa unto any

0:25:35.280 --> 0:25:38.960
<v Speaker 1>man that just takes a position about this is what

0:25:39.000 --> 0:25:42.479
<v Speaker 1>women should do without any understanding of saying, yeah, I

0:25:42.520 --> 0:25:44.080
<v Speaker 1>think that this is what women should do. This what

0:25:44.119 --> 0:25:45.919
<v Speaker 1>men should do. But like, I'll be honest, world, can

0:25:46.000 --> 0:25:49.240
<v Speaker 1>I figured this day out? We are now, we are human,

0:25:49.560 --> 0:25:51.800
<v Speaker 1>We all human, and none of us have this figured

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<v Speaker 1>out perfectly. We're all learning, We're on a journey, and

0:25:55.840 --> 0:25:58.360
<v Speaker 1>so it just it just was a word of caution,

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<v Speaker 1>even to me to say, I'm not trying to put

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<v Speaker 1>myself in a position where I know everything. I don't.

0:26:03.600 --> 0:26:05.600
<v Speaker 1>You know, I want this book, I say, hey, man,

0:26:05.800 --> 0:26:07.680
<v Speaker 1>I had to. There was a part of me, uh,

0:26:07.760 --> 0:26:10.080
<v Speaker 1>growing up what people called me Mr Perfect because I

0:26:10.080 --> 0:26:12.400
<v Speaker 1>did everything right. And I of course I said, oh

0:26:12.440 --> 0:26:15.439
<v Speaker 1>this is great. I'm missed a Perfect. As I got older,

0:26:15.440 --> 0:26:21.320
<v Speaker 1>I was like, oh, I had the perfect. I work

0:26:21.359 --> 0:26:24.760
<v Speaker 1>on killing Mr Perfect because it's just not true. It's

0:26:24.760 --> 0:26:27.840
<v Speaker 1>a facade, it's a persona, it's not reality. And so

0:26:27.880 --> 0:26:30.040
<v Speaker 1>again I don't know the brother. I don't I'm not

0:26:30.119 --> 0:26:32.040
<v Speaker 1>hating on that brother or any other brother. But as

0:26:32.160 --> 0:26:35.760
<v Speaker 1>as men, we have to be cautious the tone in

0:26:35.800 --> 0:26:38.920
<v Speaker 1>which we give advice to win them. And we had

0:26:39.000 --> 0:26:42.879
<v Speaker 1>every man knows the struggle. It is hard, it's difficult.

0:26:43.160 --> 0:26:45.760
<v Speaker 1>And so if I stand up on this platform and say, oh,

0:26:45.880 --> 0:26:47.440
<v Speaker 1>you know, that's why I wrote truth about men. Yo,

0:26:47.520 --> 0:26:49.679
<v Speaker 1>we got this dog in us, it's in us, it's

0:26:49.720 --> 0:26:52.560
<v Speaker 1>in me. Right, I got master that. I work on

0:26:52.680 --> 0:26:55.520
<v Speaker 1>mastering it every day. I gotta do my work I

0:26:55.520 --> 0:26:57.920
<v Speaker 1>can't come out here and say, oh, I've got it mastered,

0:26:58.080 --> 0:27:01.520
<v Speaker 1>everything's great. No, I don't. I work on it. I

0:27:01.680 --> 0:27:04.240
<v Speaker 1>deal with it. It ain't easy some days or easy

0:27:04.320 --> 0:27:07.560
<v Speaker 1>than others. But to not try to get on a

0:27:07.600 --> 0:27:10.720
<v Speaker 1>pedestal for a profit and act like we got it

0:27:10.760 --> 0:27:14.280
<v Speaker 1>all when we know we don't. That was my takeaway

0:27:14.600 --> 0:27:17.440
<v Speaker 1>from that situation. And any brother that I can talk

0:27:17.480 --> 0:27:20.480
<v Speaker 1>to who's giving advice, I try to share with, like, yo,

0:27:20.560 --> 0:27:23.800
<v Speaker 1>nothing wrong with the advice, but take the edge off

0:27:23.880 --> 0:27:26.919
<v Speaker 1>of you know it all. Take the edge off of

0:27:26.960 --> 0:27:30.080
<v Speaker 1>that and offer it with some humility, with some grace

0:27:30.200 --> 0:27:32.800
<v Speaker 1>and saying, hey, I'm still working through this too, right.

0:27:33.080 --> 0:27:35.600
<v Speaker 1>What were some expectations on you that you feel were

0:27:35.640 --> 0:27:38.399
<v Speaker 1>unrealistic because you had them coming from everywhere, like from

0:27:38.440 --> 0:27:41.560
<v Speaker 1>the church, from people who are paying attention to your marriage,

0:27:41.560 --> 0:27:45.159
<v Speaker 1>from the community, social media. What about you, like, what

0:27:45.240 --> 0:27:47.880
<v Speaker 1>are some things you're like, Okay, this is impossible, And

0:27:47.920 --> 0:27:49.880
<v Speaker 1>what did you have to change about yourself and your

0:27:49.880 --> 0:27:52.920
<v Speaker 1>own expectations? Yeah, you know, I mean, I I was

0:27:53.000 --> 0:27:55.560
<v Speaker 1>raising the church, you know, been Christian all my life,

0:27:56.000 --> 0:27:58.840
<v Speaker 1>and so you know, just the idea of my reason

0:27:59.280 --> 0:28:01.560
<v Speaker 1>my initial goal growing up was I want to go

0:28:01.600 --> 0:28:04.480
<v Speaker 1>to Hollywood. I want to become, you know, a producer.

0:28:05.080 --> 0:28:08.040
<v Speaker 1>And so coming from a religious background, that was from

0:28:08.119 --> 0:28:11.600
<v Speaker 1>you like, you can't Hollywood and Solomon Gomorra, it's the

0:28:11.680 --> 0:28:14.960
<v Speaker 1>devil's playground. You're gonna lose your faith, You're gonna have

0:28:15.040 --> 0:28:18.240
<v Speaker 1>to compromise. And so that was one of the first

0:28:18.320 --> 0:28:21.679
<v Speaker 1>expectations that I had to say, guess what, y'all I

0:28:21.880 --> 0:28:24.600
<v Speaker 1>live with in my heart. Hey, if you don't agree,

0:28:24.640 --> 0:28:26.879
<v Speaker 1>pray for me, because I gotta go, you know. And

0:28:27.400 --> 0:28:30.440
<v Speaker 1>I went, came to the entertainment business, you know, became successful,

0:28:30.440 --> 0:28:32.919
<v Speaker 1>worked at Sony Pictures for ten years, and now we're

0:28:32.920 --> 0:28:35.000
<v Speaker 1>in my own production company. So I had succeeded in

0:28:35.040 --> 0:28:38.480
<v Speaker 1>that way. But one of the other expectations is this, yes,

0:28:44.280 --> 0:28:49.440
<v Speaker 1>the journey right. One of the other expectations was with

0:28:49.680 --> 0:28:54.840
<v Speaker 1>success if you're not careful, comes a chat of like, oh,

0:28:55.240 --> 0:28:59.880
<v Speaker 1>finding too much of my identity in the success and

0:29:00.120 --> 0:29:04.920
<v Speaker 1>the expectation that if I'm not producing a hit movie

0:29:05.120 --> 0:29:09.360
<v Speaker 1>or got a successful book or you know, on television,

0:29:09.960 --> 0:29:14.480
<v Speaker 1>then I'm not making it. What's wrong with you, divine man? Dude?

0:29:14.480 --> 0:29:16.120
<v Speaker 1>What's with you? Man? You just did this thing on

0:29:16.160 --> 0:29:19.880
<v Speaker 1>social media? And like that, what's wrong with you? Like internalizing?

0:29:20.400 --> 0:29:23.320
<v Speaker 1>So the expectation is like, oh, I have to be

0:29:23.400 --> 0:29:26.160
<v Speaker 1>this all the time. No, I had to learn one

0:29:26.160 --> 0:29:28.160
<v Speaker 1>thing I should expect it myself is to be who

0:29:28.200 --> 0:29:32.040
<v Speaker 1>I am. I really keep working on who I am.

0:29:32.120 --> 0:29:34.040
<v Speaker 1>And when I say, well, on who I am, like

0:29:34.400 --> 0:29:36.880
<v Speaker 1>work on you know, times when I'm angry and frustrated

0:29:36.880 --> 0:29:38.840
<v Speaker 1>and you know, deal with my issues and being an

0:29:38.880 --> 0:29:42.719
<v Speaker 1>adult child of alcoholic and deal with my perfectionism issues.

0:29:42.960 --> 0:29:46.080
<v Speaker 1>The more I do that, the more it has allowed

0:29:46.120 --> 0:29:50.200
<v Speaker 1>me to resist the temptation to live up anybody else's expectation,

0:29:50.760 --> 0:29:53.680
<v Speaker 1>you know. And so it's been a process because we

0:29:53.760 --> 0:29:55.960
<v Speaker 1>all listen, I'm I'm. I don't know if you'all have

0:29:56.040 --> 0:29:57.920
<v Speaker 1>this that I like to be like, because you know,

0:29:58.520 --> 0:30:01.760
<v Speaker 1>I like people's approval. I liked it um but at

0:30:01.800 --> 0:30:04.680
<v Speaker 1>times I liked it too much. I liked it so

0:30:04.840 --> 0:30:07.600
<v Speaker 1>much that I keep my value in it. And when

0:30:07.640 --> 0:30:10.800
<v Speaker 1>they like me, I feel fantastic. But when they don't,

0:30:11.000 --> 0:30:14.680
<v Speaker 1>I feel devastated. And that was an expectation that I

0:30:14.680 --> 0:30:17.640
<v Speaker 1>had to remove of like I can't live for anybody else.

0:30:18.000 --> 0:30:20.520
<v Speaker 1>I can't live for my wife. I love her, I

0:30:20.520 --> 0:30:22.680
<v Speaker 1>can't live for her. At the end of the day,

0:30:22.680 --> 0:30:25.400
<v Speaker 1>I only life that I'm responsible to live is the

0:30:25.480 --> 0:30:28.320
<v Speaker 1>life that I have been given, and I have to

0:30:28.440 --> 0:30:31.600
<v Speaker 1>make sure at every turn that I'm living based upon

0:30:31.680 --> 0:30:34.920
<v Speaker 1>the expectations that I choose. Others can have expectations of me,

0:30:34.960 --> 0:30:39.000
<v Speaker 1>and if I choose those expectations, great. It doesn't mean

0:30:39.040 --> 0:30:41.600
<v Speaker 1>that someone having an expectation of me is wrong. It

0:30:41.720 --> 0:30:44.600
<v Speaker 1>just means if I do it without them, without me

0:30:44.680 --> 0:30:47.840
<v Speaker 1>and thinking about it. My religious you know, from the church.

0:30:48.600 --> 0:30:50.840
<v Speaker 1>You know I have gotten to the place where I

0:30:50.920 --> 0:30:54.560
<v Speaker 1>love the Lord. I'm completely you know, a follower of Christ.

0:30:54.600 --> 0:30:58.440
<v Speaker 1>Have no problem with that. But I don't do anything

0:30:58.720 --> 0:31:01.320
<v Speaker 1>to live up to someone's religious expectation of who I

0:31:01.360 --> 0:31:03.960
<v Speaker 1>should be and what I should do. I don't do it.

0:31:04.520 --> 0:31:07.120
<v Speaker 1>They say that, and I'm about to switch gears a

0:31:07.120 --> 0:31:09.760
<v Speaker 1>little bit, and you know I was. You see it

0:31:09.800 --> 0:31:14.800
<v Speaker 1>in my face, So dude. They say that people that's

0:31:14.880 --> 0:31:16.920
<v Speaker 1>in the church sometimes to be a little bit more

0:31:17.040 --> 0:31:21.360
<v Speaker 1>freaking than the regular people. Now have you come across

0:31:21.480 --> 0:31:24.000
<v Speaker 1>that where it's been like women in the church and

0:31:24.040 --> 0:31:26.320
<v Speaker 1>stuff like that, I kind of throw them pennies at you,

0:31:26.640 --> 0:31:29.560
<v Speaker 1>even though you're married, or even maybe before you get

0:31:29.560 --> 0:31:32.120
<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying that you like hold on because we

0:31:32.200 --> 0:31:35.040
<v Speaker 1>see a lot of preachers and pastors that get caught

0:31:35.120 --> 0:31:37.400
<v Speaker 1>up and caught out there. So did you ever have

0:31:37.480 --> 0:31:39.560
<v Speaker 1>to be like I know I talked about relationships and

0:31:39.600 --> 0:31:42.760
<v Speaker 1>all that, but like find yourself since I'm not here,

0:31:42.800 --> 0:31:46.120
<v Speaker 1>and find yourself in God, not in me? Right, right?

0:31:46.520 --> 0:31:51.120
<v Speaker 1>I have not had that experience so much being married. Um,

0:31:51.160 --> 0:31:53.840
<v Speaker 1>you know, but you know, prior to marriage and going

0:31:53.920 --> 0:31:56.560
<v Speaker 1>to your question about you know uh by you know

0:31:56.640 --> 0:31:59.600
<v Speaker 1>our women or men in the church, you know he

0:31:59.720 --> 0:32:04.200
<v Speaker 1>and not one of the reasons why that idea persist.

0:32:04.320 --> 0:32:07.520
<v Speaker 1>And there is truth. There's truth in every stereotype and

0:32:07.520 --> 0:32:14.320
<v Speaker 1>and usually truth in every rumor. Uh is that suppression? Right?

0:32:14.560 --> 0:32:18.640
<v Speaker 1>So what happens in in religious communities? You know there's

0:32:18.720 --> 0:32:20.920
<v Speaker 1>no healthy outlet to do what you won't do on

0:32:20.960 --> 0:32:24.040
<v Speaker 1>this podcast you talk more things in sex, but you

0:32:24.040 --> 0:32:26.080
<v Speaker 1>talk about sex, right, That's like it's like an outlet

0:32:26.160 --> 0:32:28.520
<v Speaker 1>to talk about sex and talk about every aspect of

0:32:28.560 --> 0:32:33.600
<v Speaker 1>it and in a non turtamental manner where where they

0:32:32.120 --> 0:32:37.280
<v Speaker 1>are space, there's a safe space to talk about sex. Uh.

0:32:37.320 --> 0:32:39.640
<v Speaker 1>The church is not to say it's the most unsafe

0:32:39.640 --> 0:32:43.840
<v Speaker 1>space to talk about sex. Now, God made us all sexual, right,

0:32:44.200 --> 0:32:47.440
<v Speaker 1>and and in in a church community, most of the

0:32:47.480 --> 0:32:52.200
<v Speaker 1>time people are being taught to repress an aspect of

0:32:52.240 --> 0:32:55.640
<v Speaker 1>their creation, and so in order to fit in and

0:32:55.840 --> 0:33:01.000
<v Speaker 1>everyone's expectation, you go along with the presentation, I'm not

0:33:01.000 --> 0:33:03.520
<v Speaker 1>gonna talk about it. Hey, it doesn't exist. Oh, I

0:33:03.600 --> 0:33:06.400
<v Speaker 1>give God the glory. You know, everything's good. God is

0:33:06.400 --> 0:33:16.040
<v Speaker 1>good all the time. I'm good. Why are you doing? You?

0:33:15.120 --> 0:33:19.480
<v Speaker 1>You and the your horny has ever nobody? No, no, no,

0:33:19.480 --> 0:33:21.560
<v Speaker 1>no, no no no no no, don't don't know you sposed

0:33:21.560 --> 0:33:24.800
<v Speaker 1>be holy over horning? Okay. The reality is, without an

0:33:24.840 --> 0:33:28.560
<v Speaker 1>outlet to talk about these feelings doesn't mean you have

0:33:28.600 --> 0:33:32.280
<v Speaker 1>to act on the feeling. Just talking about it, it's

0:33:32.320 --> 0:33:34.200
<v Speaker 1>cathartic enough to be able to deal with it in

0:33:34.240 --> 0:33:37.880
<v Speaker 1>a healthy way. Because the church seems to repress, those

0:33:37.960 --> 0:33:42.800
<v Speaker 1>feelings get suppressed. And so when someone has been suppressing

0:33:42.800 --> 0:33:46.520
<v Speaker 1>those sexual feelings and they get into an environment where

0:33:46.560 --> 0:33:49.040
<v Speaker 1>they can let it out, a lot of times it

0:33:49.080 --> 0:33:52.040
<v Speaker 1>goes to the extreme. You know, because again going back

0:33:52.040 --> 0:33:55.120
<v Speaker 1>to what we talked about earlier, no one perfect person

0:33:55.160 --> 0:33:57.440
<v Speaker 1>I believe to walk this earth was Jesus Christ himself.

0:33:57.720 --> 0:34:01.440
<v Speaker 1>None of us are perfect. And so if I try

0:34:01.480 --> 0:34:05.000
<v Speaker 1>to present, even as a minister, even as a person

0:34:05.080 --> 0:34:07.880
<v Speaker 1>in the public, that hey, I've got it all together

0:34:08.400 --> 0:34:14.160
<v Speaker 1>and no, no, no, I work on it, right, but

0:34:15.120 --> 0:34:17.080
<v Speaker 1>I know who God created, and I got to do

0:34:17.120 --> 0:34:19.120
<v Speaker 1>my work so I can be the best of the

0:34:19.160 --> 0:34:21.480
<v Speaker 1>creation because if I don't do my work, this other

0:34:21.520 --> 0:34:24.160
<v Speaker 1>thing and me is gonna gonna come out. And so yes,

0:34:24.280 --> 0:34:27.799
<v Speaker 1>you're yes, there is some truth to that idea that

0:34:27.920 --> 0:34:30.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, when you have repression, especially in religious communities,

0:34:31.280 --> 0:34:33.719
<v Speaker 1>that that can come out and what we call man

0:34:33.800 --> 0:34:37.239
<v Speaker 1>being real freaky certain situations because there has never been

0:34:37.239 --> 0:34:40.000
<v Speaker 1>a healthy outlet, like a lip service, to talk about

0:34:40.080 --> 0:34:42.399
<v Speaker 1>these things and to know how to deal with them.

0:34:42.760 --> 0:34:45.959
<v Speaker 1>You can God create ahead too, so you can't act

0:34:46.000 --> 0:34:51.879
<v Speaker 1>like it. There's everything too, and that's how we got here. Okay,

0:34:51.960 --> 0:34:53.560
<v Speaker 1>but you know you you have that in the book.

0:34:53.560 --> 0:34:56.319
<v Speaker 1>Anything that you suppress, you in power, right, and so

0:34:56.400 --> 0:34:58.759
<v Speaker 1>it's kind of it's kind of like a damn bursting

0:34:59.120 --> 0:35:06.279
<v Speaker 1>literally literally, and that's why work. Now. I want that

0:35:06.360 --> 0:35:09.439
<v Speaker 1>damn you know what I mean? Like I want people

0:35:09.520 --> 0:35:17.000
<v Speaker 1>unless Megan's okay, you're talking about the damn of spression.

0:35:24.160 --> 0:35:27.800
<v Speaker 1>What is the difference between stage expectations and wow, where's

0:35:27.840 --> 0:35:35.120
<v Speaker 1>your mind expect expectations, expectations and standards. What's the difference?

0:35:35.680 --> 0:35:38.640
<v Speaker 1>So so so? An expectation is a strong belief that

0:35:38.719 --> 0:35:42.880
<v Speaker 1>something will happen in the future. To me, standard is

0:35:43.840 --> 0:35:46.439
<v Speaker 1>a is a commitment to how you want to live

0:35:46.480 --> 0:35:50.360
<v Speaker 1>your life. Here is the danger when these two get mixed.

0:35:50.719 --> 0:35:54.160
<v Speaker 1>Here's what I mean by that. I have certain ways

0:35:54.239 --> 0:35:57.279
<v Speaker 1>that I have committed to living my life, certain disciplines,

0:35:57.680 --> 0:35:59.560
<v Speaker 1>certain way I like to work out, what I like

0:35:59.640 --> 0:36:01.919
<v Speaker 1>to eat. Those are how I like to work Those

0:36:01.960 --> 0:36:06.239
<v Speaker 1>are my personal standards. It's dangerous when I treat my

0:36:06.280 --> 0:36:09.520
<v Speaker 1>personal standard as an expectation for everybody else should operate,

0:36:10.920 --> 0:36:13.840
<v Speaker 1>and then I judge them when they don't meet my

0:36:14.040 --> 0:36:17.279
<v Speaker 1>standard the way that I do. It's okay for me

0:36:17.320 --> 0:36:19.080
<v Speaker 1>to have standards and this because this works for me.

0:36:19.760 --> 0:36:22.040
<v Speaker 1>But I talk about this in the book. Be careful

0:36:22.440 --> 0:36:25.440
<v Speaker 1>when you project your standards onto others and then you

0:36:25.560 --> 0:36:28.719
<v Speaker 1>judge them or vilify them because they don't meet them

0:36:28.760 --> 0:36:31.000
<v Speaker 1>the same way. I don't want anybody else to make

0:36:31.000 --> 0:36:33.399
<v Speaker 1>their standard. My standard is the same way. We should

0:36:33.400 --> 0:36:35.759
<v Speaker 1>resist the temptation and do the same. So that's the

0:36:35.880 --> 0:36:38.920
<v Speaker 1>real difference and expectation is a belief. It's a hope.

0:36:39.000 --> 0:36:41.560
<v Speaker 1>It's an idea of like, Okay, here's what's within my

0:36:41.640 --> 0:36:44.160
<v Speaker 1>control that I'm hoping for, that I'm working towards. That

0:36:44.400 --> 0:36:48.360
<v Speaker 1>I am working towards right, And if I want to

0:36:48.560 --> 0:36:50.800
<v Speaker 1>find out if somebody else will agree to that expectation,

0:36:50.840 --> 0:36:53.239
<v Speaker 1>I have to communicate that to them. So let's say

0:36:53.239 --> 0:36:55.480
<v Speaker 1>I have a standard. Let's go back to what the

0:36:55.480 --> 0:36:58.160
<v Speaker 1>game posted. Let's say, as a woman, you have a standard.

0:36:58.800 --> 0:37:01.040
<v Speaker 1>I want every and I go out wait to pay

0:37:01.080 --> 0:37:04.120
<v Speaker 1>for me. Okay, that could be your standard? How you

0:37:04.200 --> 0:37:08.040
<v Speaker 1>set that expectation through communication? Hey, before we're on the date,

0:37:08.400 --> 0:37:10.920
<v Speaker 1>here's my expectation. Do you agree to that? Or no,

0:37:11.640 --> 0:37:13.960
<v Speaker 1>oh you don't agree that, Okay, no problem. I don't

0:37:13.960 --> 0:37:16.440
<v Speaker 1>want to take guys that don't pay or that's what

0:37:17.120 --> 0:37:19.080
<v Speaker 1>I have. Here's my standard. I don't let any guy

0:37:19.120 --> 0:37:22.120
<v Speaker 1>pay for me, period. Are you cool with that expectation?

0:37:22.120 --> 0:37:24.399
<v Speaker 1>Because I don't want to get to dinner and then

0:37:24.440 --> 0:37:26.160
<v Speaker 1>you come in there and you secretly pay the bill

0:37:26.200 --> 0:37:28.200
<v Speaker 1>because I'm gonna leave because I don't like that stuff.

0:37:28.480 --> 0:37:31.719
<v Speaker 1>Now that sounds crazy. I've never I'm gonna tell you why.

0:37:31.840 --> 0:37:33.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna tell you why. I think it sounds crazy

0:37:33.920 --> 0:37:36.120
<v Speaker 1>because I'm thinking on the man's side, right, So say

0:37:36.160 --> 0:37:38.480
<v Speaker 1>he already knows he's gonna pay or whatever the case.

0:37:38.480 --> 0:37:40.719
<v Speaker 1>So he calls you up like, hey, you know today

0:37:40.760 --> 0:37:42.640
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna ask t K right, We're going in a

0:37:42.719 --> 0:37:44.959
<v Speaker 1>nice day. I'm gonna pick you up. Everything's gonna be great.

0:37:45.239 --> 0:37:47.480
<v Speaker 1>You can order the lobster and get the shrimp skin,

0:37:47.600 --> 0:37:49.719
<v Speaker 1>whatever you want to get. Lamb says, do what you

0:37:49.719 --> 0:37:51.799
<v Speaker 1>wanna do. But at the end of the night, you're

0:37:51.800 --> 0:37:56.880
<v Speaker 1>gonna suck this. Dick likes because I look at it

0:37:56.920 --> 0:37:58.719
<v Speaker 1>like this, and I'm gonna tell you why. I'm gonna

0:37:58.719 --> 0:38:01.480
<v Speaker 1>tell you why because as now, it might be one

0:38:01.520 --> 0:38:04.640
<v Speaker 1>man that I go out, say it's two guys, right,

0:38:04.920 --> 0:38:07.680
<v Speaker 1>and we do the same date, same thing, we're vibing

0:38:07.800 --> 0:38:10.040
<v Speaker 1>with one of them. I might just want to feel

0:38:10.080 --> 0:38:11.839
<v Speaker 1>like that. At the end of the night, it might

0:38:11.920 --> 0:38:13.839
<v Speaker 1>be the other guy that I feel like I don't

0:38:13.880 --> 0:38:17.360
<v Speaker 1>feel the connection there. So even if we have that conversation,

0:38:17.560 --> 0:38:21.960
<v Speaker 1>to me personally, I'm a vide person. I'm a you know,

0:38:22.239 --> 0:38:24.239
<v Speaker 1>or a person like when we get around each other,

0:38:24.280 --> 0:38:27.400
<v Speaker 1>how are we laughing? Do we feel that? So just

0:38:27.680 --> 0:38:31.120
<v Speaker 1>you chemistry, just you telling me or we talking, and

0:38:31.160 --> 0:38:33.000
<v Speaker 1>even though we might be like, Okay, I get what

0:38:33.040 --> 0:38:35.279
<v Speaker 1>you're saying, and I get what I'm saying, but when

0:38:35.280 --> 0:38:37.759
<v Speaker 1>we get in at the table, it's awkward. And now

0:38:37.760 --> 0:38:40.080
<v Speaker 1>we're not talking. So now you think I'm gonna suck

0:38:40.080 --> 0:38:42.200
<v Speaker 1>your dick just because you told me at the beginning

0:38:42.239 --> 0:38:45.840
<v Speaker 1>of this conversation after dinner. This is what you're used to,

0:38:46.080 --> 0:38:48.439
<v Speaker 1>you know, And you can also always change your mind,

0:38:48.680 --> 0:38:50.640
<v Speaker 1>and you can again because if not, that's rape and

0:38:50.680 --> 0:38:54.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna call the police. You But this is so good.

0:38:54.680 --> 0:38:58.239
<v Speaker 1>This is so good again. We're talking about expectations and

0:38:58.400 --> 0:39:02.399
<v Speaker 1>setting our expectations and and getting the power back right

0:39:02.840 --> 0:39:04.959
<v Speaker 1>when you when you when you talk about nothing wrong

0:39:05.000 --> 0:39:07.760
<v Speaker 1>with it. Everyone can live their life. What I would

0:39:07.760 --> 0:39:12.520
<v Speaker 1>say is, has that way of operating producing the result

0:39:12.600 --> 0:39:16.200
<v Speaker 1>you like, as far as working on based on like

0:39:16.280 --> 0:39:20.239
<v Speaker 1>how my failings are working for me, only living in

0:39:20.280 --> 0:39:22.839
<v Speaker 1>the vibe. I want to get a vibe. I don't

0:39:22.840 --> 0:39:25.319
<v Speaker 1>want to over communicate. I just want to feel it out.

0:39:25.680 --> 0:39:29.319
<v Speaker 1>If it has wonderful, but if it hasn't, maybe it's like,

0:39:29.360 --> 0:39:32.799
<v Speaker 1>all right, are there some adjustments? I can make that

0:39:32.880 --> 0:39:35.720
<v Speaker 1>I can communicate a little more clearly to just create

0:39:35.760 --> 0:39:39.520
<v Speaker 1>a little bit more structure around what I want, because

0:39:39.520 --> 0:39:49.120
<v Speaker 1>I vibed out a lot in the vibe without the communication. Okay,

0:39:51.040 --> 0:39:54.080
<v Speaker 1>you know, my best cancel, there's no more vibe bag

0:39:57.760 --> 0:40:01.719
<v Speaker 1>because there's these expectations, you know, to come up, and

0:40:02.080 --> 0:40:06.000
<v Speaker 1>we didn't actually set a lay foundation of communication. When

0:40:06.040 --> 0:40:08.440
<v Speaker 1>things start to get a little weird, I want to

0:40:08.480 --> 0:40:10.920
<v Speaker 1>rely on the vibe. But the vibe has no structure,

0:40:12.200 --> 0:40:14.520
<v Speaker 1>you know, and so our foundation has no structure. So

0:40:14.560 --> 0:40:17.760
<v Speaker 1>when things get tough, we don't have the foundation to

0:40:17.760 --> 0:40:20.040
<v Speaker 1>to dit to to get to talk about it. So

0:40:20.280 --> 0:40:23.320
<v Speaker 1>again I understand the act. The idea that I'm presenting

0:40:23.400 --> 0:40:26.000
<v Speaker 1>sounds completely before and I get it, and of course

0:40:26.040 --> 0:40:31.600
<v Speaker 1>i'm painting in the most extreme example, but communicating what

0:40:31.719 --> 0:40:35.920
<v Speaker 1>you want and being clear about it. I'm a firm

0:40:36.000 --> 0:40:38.680
<v Speaker 1>believer in that, even if it's uncomfortable, because you know,

0:40:38.719 --> 0:40:42.359
<v Speaker 1>what's more incomfortable investing time of your heart and your

0:40:42.360 --> 0:40:45.759
<v Speaker 1>body and somebody that you thought was gonna give you

0:40:45.800 --> 0:40:49.680
<v Speaker 1>something you may have wanted and then you realize didn't.

0:40:50.160 --> 0:40:54.799
<v Speaker 1>Mm hmmm. Starting for Lobster, I mean I bought my

0:40:54.880 --> 0:40:59.000
<v Speaker 1>whole list. But I do feel like sometimes when you're

0:40:59.000 --> 0:41:02.080
<v Speaker 1>talking to somebody and you're just meeting them in the beginning,

0:41:02.560 --> 0:41:04.560
<v Speaker 1>and we say this all the time, it's like you

0:41:04.600 --> 0:41:08.919
<v Speaker 1>meet a representative. So sometimes a person, Yeah, they'll paint

0:41:08.920 --> 0:41:11.480
<v Speaker 1>out a picture of somebody that they claim they are

0:41:11.960 --> 0:41:15.120
<v Speaker 1>or they seem like they are. Even their expectations like oh,

0:41:15.200 --> 0:41:17.200
<v Speaker 1>I want this and this is down in the thirty

0:41:17.239 --> 0:41:19.440
<v Speaker 1>You may feel like you're on the same page, but

0:41:19.520 --> 0:41:22.719
<v Speaker 1>once you really get to sit down, it's like, I

0:41:22.719 --> 0:41:25.160
<v Speaker 1>thought you said this is you know, this is what

0:41:25.239 --> 0:41:27.600
<v Speaker 1>you want it, and it's like not that at all,

0:41:28.080 --> 0:41:30.799
<v Speaker 1>you know. But but what the beauty of that is

0:41:31.160 --> 0:41:34.839
<v Speaker 1>when we set expectations and we communicate them, we then

0:41:34.920 --> 0:41:42.160
<v Speaker 1>can have accountability. That's true, somebody accountable said you weren't,

0:41:42.440 --> 0:41:46.759
<v Speaker 1>then why are you doing this this that I like,

0:41:46.800 --> 0:41:54.160
<v Speaker 1>I said that you did, I got the messages here it.

0:41:54.560 --> 0:41:57.919
<v Speaker 1>We want to say, okay, divine, but what's your tough

0:41:57.920 --> 0:41:59.719
<v Speaker 1>couples And I've heard people talk about this a lot,

0:42:00.160 --> 0:42:03.200
<v Speaker 1>where they're the amount of times that they have sex

0:42:03.280 --> 0:42:06.680
<v Speaker 1>doesn't match up, Like sometimes one person wants to have

0:42:06.760 --> 0:42:08.799
<v Speaker 1>sex three times a week, the other person is like,

0:42:08.840 --> 0:42:11.439
<v Speaker 1>I'm good every other week, So what do you say?

0:42:11.440 --> 0:42:16.239
<v Speaker 1>And that, like, how do you compromise? I'm in like

0:42:16.320 --> 0:42:20.200
<v Speaker 1>every other week once. Now we gotta get a divorced.

0:42:20.320 --> 0:42:23.320
<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry you didn't tell me that in the first day.

0:42:24.920 --> 0:42:29.200
<v Speaker 1>I would tell couples, especially when it comes to sex

0:42:29.239 --> 0:42:32.200
<v Speaker 1>and you are getting married first and foremost, one, you

0:42:32.239 --> 0:42:35.680
<v Speaker 1>need to set expectations. But two, I would take every

0:42:35.680 --> 0:42:39.400
<v Speaker 1>expectation off because here's what happens. And I talked about

0:42:39.440 --> 0:42:42.920
<v Speaker 1>this in the book. When we're single, the issue of

0:42:43.040 --> 0:42:46.520
<v Speaker 1>sex is not nearly a problem because there's there's less expectations.

0:42:46.840 --> 0:42:49.000
<v Speaker 1>You don't even know this person, You're not where it's

0:42:49.000 --> 0:42:52.600
<v Speaker 1>gonna go. No problem, right given sex, no problem. It

0:42:52.640 --> 0:42:54.239
<v Speaker 1>is what it is. It see me, Shane's part of

0:42:54.239 --> 0:42:58.040
<v Speaker 1>the process or whatever. When you get married, it's totally

0:42:58.040 --> 0:43:01.040
<v Speaker 1>get involved in because now is the expectation. What does

0:43:01.080 --> 0:43:04.560
<v Speaker 1>that mean? Okay, wait, now you're my husband, you're my wife.

0:43:05.000 --> 0:43:08.040
<v Speaker 1>Oh I've been thinking about this my whole life. Now

0:43:08.080 --> 0:43:11.640
<v Speaker 1>it's here. What does it mean? What am I supposed

0:43:11.680 --> 0:43:16.160
<v Speaker 1>to do? And as a result, sex becomes much more

0:43:16.239 --> 0:43:20.160
<v Speaker 1>complicated because there's so many more expectations to play. So

0:43:20.239 --> 0:43:23.239
<v Speaker 1>I would really encourage a couple, Hey, go easy on

0:43:23.280 --> 0:43:27.239
<v Speaker 1>each other, take the expectation off, and work to communicate

0:43:27.680 --> 0:43:30.959
<v Speaker 1>and find the compromise. Everyone has a different sex drive,

0:43:31.120 --> 0:43:33.120
<v Speaker 1>you know, and unless you happen to marry the person

0:43:33.160 --> 0:43:34.759
<v Speaker 1>with the perfect sex drive, there's always going to be

0:43:34.800 --> 0:43:37.319
<v Speaker 1>a compromise, you know. So it's like, all right, you know,

0:43:37.440 --> 0:43:39.680
<v Speaker 1>he may want to do it twice a week and

0:43:39.680 --> 0:43:41.400
<v Speaker 1>she's like I needed every day. Okay, great, let's just

0:43:41.400 --> 0:43:42.840
<v Speaker 1>try to find the happy meaning we do it a

0:43:42.840 --> 0:43:45.520
<v Speaker 1>couple of times a week. Okay, Right, you gotta just

0:43:45.640 --> 0:43:49.520
<v Speaker 1>find the happy medium and compromise because if you don't

0:43:49.520 --> 0:43:52.080
<v Speaker 1>do what, you're gonna drive each other crazy. And uh

0:43:52.120 --> 0:43:56.359
<v Speaker 1>and also mind are is when, especially in marriage, if

0:43:56.360 --> 0:43:59.160
<v Speaker 1>the sex isn't happening at the frequency that you want.

0:43:59.600 --> 0:44:00.960
<v Speaker 1>A lot of it has to do with everything is

0:44:00.960 --> 0:44:05.560
<v Speaker 1>half but outside the bedroom, you know, if there's some issues, resentments,

0:44:06.040 --> 0:44:10.000
<v Speaker 1>things that didn't get discussed, the quality of your marriage

0:44:10.400 --> 0:44:12.680
<v Speaker 1>usually is revealed and what does or doesn't happen in

0:44:12.680 --> 0:44:15.560
<v Speaker 1>the bedroom. So if you're good at compromising, good at communication,

0:44:15.800 --> 0:44:17.480
<v Speaker 1>then you can bring that into the bedroom and you

0:44:17.480 --> 0:44:20.399
<v Speaker 1>can find the right communication. But if outside you feel

0:44:20.440 --> 0:44:22.480
<v Speaker 1>like you know one spouse feels like they're giving more

0:44:22.520 --> 0:44:24.920
<v Speaker 1>than the other, and then in the bedroom that spouse

0:44:24.960 --> 0:44:27.760
<v Speaker 1>that keeps receiving and never giving, wants to keep receiving.

0:44:28.040 --> 0:44:29.680
<v Speaker 1>One who's given say no, I don't know, I don't

0:44:29.680 --> 0:44:31.960
<v Speaker 1>feel like doing that. I ain't in the move for that. No, no, no.

0:44:32.480 --> 0:44:34.120
<v Speaker 1>When when you give me some equity out there, I

0:44:34.160 --> 0:44:37.800
<v Speaker 1>think it's equition here. So I just to go easy

0:44:38.320 --> 0:44:41.719
<v Speaker 1>and take the expectation off the bedroom and build it

0:44:41.760 --> 0:44:44.120
<v Speaker 1>together so you can find what works for both of you.

0:44:44.840 --> 0:44:48.400
<v Speaker 1>What about cheating in a relationship, Like, say you're in

0:44:48.440 --> 0:44:52.839
<v Speaker 1>a committed relationship and somebody steps out, do you feel

0:44:52.880 --> 0:44:56.480
<v Speaker 1>like that should be a deal breaker because maybe y'all

0:44:56.520 --> 0:44:59.680
<v Speaker 1>spoke about things or whatever and they knew how you

0:45:00.000 --> 0:45:01.759
<v Speaker 1>it's about that or whatever the case is. Or do

0:45:01.840 --> 0:45:04.399
<v Speaker 1>you think that maybe that person made a mistake and

0:45:04.800 --> 0:45:07.400
<v Speaker 1>it is that you can give them a chance, You

0:45:07.400 --> 0:45:08.919
<v Speaker 1>know what I mean? Like, what what do you feel

0:45:08.920 --> 0:45:11.640
<v Speaker 1>about that? You know? My feeling is that in any

0:45:11.680 --> 0:45:16.000
<v Speaker 1>situation where trust has been breached, first and foremost, there's

0:45:16.000 --> 0:45:19.040
<v Speaker 1>no rule book. Every person in every relationship has to

0:45:19.120 --> 0:45:23.319
<v Speaker 1>do what works best for them. What I would say is,

0:45:23.920 --> 0:45:26.799
<v Speaker 1>if trust has been breached. You gotta get to the

0:45:26.840 --> 0:45:30.200
<v Speaker 1>root of where is the cheating come from and why?

0:45:30.360 --> 0:45:33.759
<v Speaker 1>And my experience, people sometimes stay in a relationship with

0:45:34.000 --> 0:45:37.240
<v Speaker 1>us has been violated, not because it's what they want,

0:45:37.880 --> 0:45:40.560
<v Speaker 1>because they feel expected to do it. And so for

0:45:40.600 --> 0:45:43.600
<v Speaker 1>me personally, UM, I don't know what I would do,

0:45:43.719 --> 0:45:45.640
<v Speaker 1>you know, if megan cheating on me, I don't know.

0:45:45.760 --> 0:45:50.480
<v Speaker 1>I that's not even put that out there. That's not

0:45:52.760 --> 0:45:56.479
<v Speaker 1>question like how do you deal with you? Right? Got

0:45:56.480 --> 0:45:59.279
<v Speaker 1>to decide, you know, what works best for them. But

0:45:59.360 --> 0:46:01.279
<v Speaker 1>you gotta get to the root of it. You know.

0:46:01.440 --> 0:46:05.280
<v Speaker 1>I don't believe that it's it's unsalvageable if somebody cheats,

0:46:05.600 --> 0:46:08.080
<v Speaker 1>you know, but it's a personal decision. You got to

0:46:08.120 --> 0:46:10.080
<v Speaker 1>really do the work to say, Okay, well why did

0:46:10.160 --> 0:46:14.040
<v Speaker 1>that happen, where did it come from? And can I

0:46:14.080 --> 0:46:16.600
<v Speaker 1>get over it? If you're the person that was cheated on,

0:46:17.040 --> 0:46:19.960
<v Speaker 1>and if you did the cheating, the one thing I

0:46:20.000 --> 0:46:23.680
<v Speaker 1>would say is you don't get to set the terms

0:46:23.880 --> 0:46:27.480
<v Speaker 1>for the for kiding. I feel like the cheating always

0:46:27.680 --> 0:46:29.640
<v Speaker 1>wanted trying to set the terms. You like, I don't

0:46:29.640 --> 0:46:31.920
<v Speaker 1>want to talk about this anymore. You gotta get over it.

0:46:32.120 --> 0:46:33.960
<v Speaker 1>But let me after this as a man, because I

0:46:34.000 --> 0:46:36.360
<v Speaker 1>feel like this right. I feel like as women, we

0:46:36.400 --> 0:46:38.920
<v Speaker 1>always want to know all the details, like what happened?

0:46:38.960 --> 0:46:40.440
<v Speaker 1>This is and that we want to talk to the

0:46:40.480 --> 0:46:42.560
<v Speaker 1>other one, like all that stuff. Would you want to

0:46:42.600 --> 0:46:45.399
<v Speaker 1>know all the details? You think it's better to not

0:46:45.760 --> 0:46:49.520
<v Speaker 1>have those moments in your head forever. Here's what I

0:46:49.560 --> 0:46:55.360
<v Speaker 1>would say. I would say that, did you look like

0:46:55.440 --> 0:47:01.680
<v Speaker 1>you just got cheated on? I don't like space mentally

0:47:03.000 --> 0:47:12.560
<v Speaker 1>face like, no, ain't no cheap that going on over

0:47:12.640 --> 0:47:17.120
<v Speaker 1>here on either. But But the reason why I pause

0:47:17.520 --> 0:47:20.319
<v Speaker 1>and really got pensive is because this is an issue

0:47:20.320 --> 0:47:23.200
<v Speaker 1>so many people deal with. You know and and and

0:47:23.239 --> 0:47:25.000
<v Speaker 1>how much facts? How many of the facts do you

0:47:25.000 --> 0:47:27.239
<v Speaker 1>need to know? And what don't you need to know?

0:47:27.960 --> 0:47:30.920
<v Speaker 1>You know? Because what happens is what you don't know

0:47:31.120 --> 0:47:35.320
<v Speaker 1>can drive you crazy. M h. But if you know,

0:47:37.880 --> 0:47:48.640
<v Speaker 1>you go so so. I think that some details are important.

0:47:50.200 --> 0:47:53.680
<v Speaker 1>Detail you know? Um, But I would I would resist

0:47:53.719 --> 0:47:57.160
<v Speaker 1>temptation ask so many things that then you're just it

0:47:57.239 --> 0:47:59.759
<v Speaker 1>drives you crazy, asking enough so you can get a

0:47:59.760 --> 0:48:02.480
<v Speaker 1>clear picture of why it happened. But I would exist

0:48:02.520 --> 0:48:05.520
<v Speaker 1>the temptation that has so much that you could never

0:48:05.560 --> 0:48:08.360
<v Speaker 1>repair it, because you're you're replaying all the details in

0:48:08.440 --> 0:48:10.799
<v Speaker 1>your head, right. And I also felt like, and I

0:48:10.880 --> 0:48:13.400
<v Speaker 1>know this might sounds sick as fuck, but I also

0:48:13.480 --> 0:48:16.239
<v Speaker 1>felt like that's what makes the person believe that they

0:48:16.239 --> 0:48:19.759
<v Speaker 1>can get away with those things. Like if they tell you, like,

0:48:20.040 --> 0:48:22.359
<v Speaker 1>you know what, we had sex without a condom and

0:48:22.400 --> 0:48:27.200
<v Speaker 1>you ultimately forgive them and they do it again, that

0:48:27.360 --> 0:48:29.719
<v Speaker 1>was like, well, you know, last time. I feel like,

0:48:29.760 --> 0:48:31.600
<v Speaker 1>I know I made a mistake, but you forgave me

0:48:31.719 --> 0:48:34.799
<v Speaker 1>last time. Like literally, I was in a relationship and

0:48:34.840 --> 0:48:37.840
<v Speaker 1>the guy said to me, we broke up obviously, but

0:48:37.960 --> 0:48:40.000
<v Speaker 1>he said to me like, well, in the beginning, like

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<v Speaker 1>you dealt with this. So when it was when we

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<v Speaker 1>started transitioning into like a real serious relationship, I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>think that it was that serious of a deal because

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<v Speaker 1>I felt like, you got over it, you know the

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<v Speaker 1>vibes girl, the vibes came back, Well that that wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>a vibe situation. That was my friend. He was a

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<v Speaker 1>friend that turned into somebody. I said, the dating eventually

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<v Speaker 1>and that was a mistake too. But like he would

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<v Speaker 1>say that, he would be like, well, you dealt with

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<v Speaker 1>it before, so what what doesn't matter now? And it's like,

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<v Speaker 1>because I grew up and it's been mad years and

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<v Speaker 1>we're tighter now, everything is different, and I I communicated

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<v Speaker 1>with him, but he still used it as an excuse. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>But because early in the in the dynamic, sounds like

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<v Speaker 1>expectation was said that maybe you know it was was incorrect,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the expectation of like, oh, she'll ride with

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<v Speaker 1>me through whatever. That's not what you were actually saying.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, no, I'm gonna give you a moment of grace,

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<v Speaker 1>but don't mistake my kindness for weakness, right, I know,

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<v Speaker 1>to die, I would tell you I am not a rider. Die. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>you could die if you decide to let somebody else

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<v Speaker 1>ride on you, if you know, let me out. I

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<v Speaker 1>like to ride, but I don't want to die, baby, Okay,

0:49:53.000 --> 0:49:55.040
<v Speaker 1>she wrote you. Now it's not for you to die.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Well, look, Divine has to go. But I

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<v Speaker 1>do appreciate the fact that you took good time. I

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<v Speaker 1>have to talk with us, and we're so excited. I

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<v Speaker 1>got a chance to read part of the book already,

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<v Speaker 1>so I'm already read thinking some of the ways that

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<v Speaker 1>I act in life. And I've also been paying attention

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<v Speaker 1>to your singles conversations that you've been having on Instagram

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<v Speaker 1>as well. So that's what I need to tune into.

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<v Speaker 1>So put me on because I wasn't tell me about

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<v Speaker 1>the singles conversations, so other people like me can join

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<v Speaker 1>and you have a single. I mean I've been doing

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<v Speaker 1>singles zooms, zooms for singles and it's been amazing. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>people from all over the world, all races, all ages,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, coming into the zoom. We've spend a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit more than hour. It's amazing because you know, singleness

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<v Speaker 1>is a hard walk. I remember how difficult it was

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<v Speaker 1>before I got married, and you always feel there's a

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<v Speaker 1>community around singles. You know, there's a community around relationships

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<v Speaker 1>and marriage, but not communities around singles. So you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to do to help promote free but also

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<v Speaker 1>to really encourage singles in their walk, give them information,

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<v Speaker 1>give them tips and tools and most encouragement. You know

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<v Speaker 1>it's gonna be all right, You're gonna make it through.

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<v Speaker 1>And uh, it's been amazing. So we've been doing the

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<v Speaker 1>very week leading up to the bull and he seen

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<v Speaker 1>during this pandemic because it's been tough, even tougher being

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<v Speaker 1>for people who are single during the gonna pull out, right, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we pull it out. I think I'm almost over being single.

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<v Speaker 1>It's fun, but I'm bored now. I worked too much.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm married to my job. I like money. So if

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<v Speaker 1>somebody could fit into the end between, then that schools.

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<v Speaker 1>But otherwise, yeah, I don't have no time. Mama tid Well.

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<v Speaker 1>Divine as always be really appreciate. People always are like,

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<v Speaker 1>Divine's gonna do lip service. I'm like, yes, yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 1>not a problem. He doesn't mind discussing anything. And he

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<v Speaker 1>was just talking about getting heads. So we'll make sure

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<v Speaker 1>we make that the headline the headline. But you know, listen,

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<v Speaker 1>people have these expectations of Divine that he won't do

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<v Speaker 1>lift service, and look at him breaking that. Hey, that's it.

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<v Speaker 1>You live in free, You live in free, free, free drinking.

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<v Speaker 1>Helly on y'all for having me appreciate. Thank you so

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<v Speaker 1>much for coming. Let's service