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Speaker 1: Josh Rodriguez and Kyle Yeomans.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to Talking Cowboys on a Friday. We are here

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Speaker 2: live from training camp in Oxnard, California. Nate, did you

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Speaker 2: want to do the the open?

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Speaker 3: I just love how you can come you be talking

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Speaker 3: just normal playing professional toe if you start over it started, Yea.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to Talking Cowboys live from Trading Camp and Oxnard, California.

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Speaker 2: We're here. I am Josh Rodriguez. I'm here with Patrick

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Speaker 2: no c.

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Speaker 4: Walker.

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Speaker 2: I'm here with Nathaniel Newton, Christopher Paul Beemer in the

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Speaker 2: background doing his thing, killing it absolutely.

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Speaker 5: As always, nice crisp white hat.

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Speaker 6: I don't know how it keeps that hat white, because okay,

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Speaker 6: that's that's you can't have money a new white cap.

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Speaker 5: Every day.

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Speaker 2: You get three or four wears out of a white

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Speaker 2: hat and then you got to toss it or something,

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Speaker 2: or you know, give it to a loved one or such. Boys.

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Speaker 2: We're here. It is a beautiful Friday. We didn't have

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Speaker 2: a traditional practice yesterday. We had walked through yesterday. But

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Speaker 2: let's catch up on news and notes. Patrick c no

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Speaker 2: see Walker, do you want to yeah?

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Speaker 5: Kicking off?

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Speaker 6: Got a couple of transactions from the Cowboys in the

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Speaker 6: wake of the Sam Williams torn acl.

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Speaker 5: Obviously, like we talked about, he's out for the season.

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Speaker 6: Cowboys knowing that they need some defensive help, defensive end help,

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Speaker 6: they worked out four guys. Three of those included a

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Speaker 6: name like Carl Lawson. You had Shaka Toni, Al quad

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Speaker 6: In Muhammad and of those four guys, because you had

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Speaker 6: Holland in there as well.

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Speaker 5: But of those four guys.

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Speaker 6: Shaka Toni, Chakazulu Shaka Toni, and al quade In Muhammad,

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Speaker 6: they got the nods. So they were signed and it

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Speaker 6: was made official this morning. I got the text this morning.

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Speaker 6: It was made official, so they are expected to be

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Speaker 6: on the practice field as early as today, which is

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Speaker 6: the third padded practice. To make room for those additions,

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Speaker 6: the Cowboys waived injured undrafted rookie wide receiver Corey Krums

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Speaker 6: who had a lower leg injury. I'm total it was

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Speaker 6: an ankle injury. So he's gonna hit waivers and if

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Speaker 6: he clears waivers, he'll revert to the Cowboys ir and they.

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Speaker 5: May work out an injury settlement at that point.

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Speaker 6: But Corey Kroumes, he was promising in rookie mini camp

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Speaker 6: OTAs and and mandatory mini camp, but suffers an ankle injury.

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Speaker 6: Cowboys are now at a full ninety plus one, the

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Speaker 6: plus plus one being rookie Denzel Dackson. Obviously he's of

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Speaker 6: Bahamian blood and so he goes with the IPP exemption.

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Speaker 7: So is truth.

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Speaker 2: The Cowboys did not know that.

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Speaker 6: It is very true fortuitous for them because when they

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Speaker 6: signed the young man in April after the draft, that

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Speaker 6: was not the intention signing him.

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Speaker 5: They saw something in him.

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Speaker 6: They wanted to get him out here at training camp

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Speaker 6: and see what they can develop. And then after signing him,

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Speaker 6: it came to their attention that he is in fact

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Speaker 6: a qualifier for the i PP International program. So yeah,

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Speaker 6: he is a plus one. So if he he can

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Speaker 6: either earn his way into the active roster or if

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Speaker 6: he turns out to be you know, good enough to

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Speaker 6: be on the practice squad and they carry him and

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Speaker 6: continue to develop him, he will not count against the

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Speaker 6: practice squad.

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Speaker 2: Seaton, that's good to know. Yeah, that's good to know. Knowledge,

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Speaker 2: information science if you will science.

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Speaker 4: Yes, science, science.

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Speaker 2: We don't have to drop like we like we usually do.

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Speaker 2: But Nate, what did you think of practice yesterday? What

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Speaker 2: do you think the walkthroughs did you get to What

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Speaker 2: do we get out of walk through To be.

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Speaker 3: Honest with the public and to be very frank with everyone,

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Speaker 3: I do not get anything out of walk throughs. I

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Speaker 3: don't even participate in the walk throughs. That's for the

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Speaker 3: scientists over here, the mad scientists, to watch these practices

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Speaker 3: in these walk throughs, because we can't divulge anythings from

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Speaker 7: We can't take movies. All we can do is take

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Speaker 7: steal shots. You know what? Have at it? What did

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Speaker 7: you gain from this? Patrick?

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Speaker 6: Well, I would say this because I know that yesterday

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Speaker 6: Nate was working on his tan Dove was having the

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Speaker 6: sun on his back. He's working on his tam. But yeah,

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Speaker 6: like you said, there's not much to take away from

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Speaker 6: the mock games as far as what can be publicized,

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Speaker 6: the biggest takeaway is that Trevon Diggs, yes, was taking

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Speaker 6: first team reps in that mock game walkthrough. Does that

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Speaker 6: mean he's ready for padded practice. No, that's not what

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Speaker 6: that means. But it does mean that he's taking strides

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Speaker 5: The field for the Cowboys. So you have that Tyler guy.

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Speaker 6: And he was also taking some more first team reps

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Speaker 6: in the mock game, which is beginning to come become

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Speaker 6: a trend because he was taking them in the first

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Speaker 6: when he Doga was being looked at for injury. But

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Speaker 6: and guess what, guy and was still getting some first

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Speaker 6: can take those things away, and those are the bigger

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Speaker 2: As far as Traybon digs Go goes with the injury,

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Speaker 2: do you think the Cowboys should have him on a snapcout?

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Speaker 2: I think I already know the answer, but I think

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Speaker 2: for people at home curious, do you think he should

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Speaker 2: this acl there? Yes, Now, we didn't do this with

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Speaker 5: And how that didn't you struggled a little.

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Speaker 2: Bit, And I know Nate and I were talking about

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Speaker 2: this yesterday. As far as you know, the possible shouts

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Speaker 2: to John the lawnmore man, he's getting closer. John Lawn

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Speaker 2: is his name, John.

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Speaker 5: I like that. That's the name I can get on board.

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Speaker 5: Not any lone loneie like we're not doing that that.

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Speaker 6: But no, I think I do think that they should

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Speaker 6: work him in gradually. And I know Big Nate kind

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Speaker 6: of brought this up on Wednesday on the episode. As

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Speaker 6: far as Nate's willing to say, you know, kind of

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Speaker 6: sit him a couple of games. I don't know that

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Speaker 6: I'm completely there, but I love the logic behind it

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Speaker 6: because I say, you ramp him up. You saw Terrence

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Speaker 6: still struggle in being put back out there immediately. You

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Speaker 6: Trayvon Diggs is just far too valuable to the franchise

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Speaker 6: to rush him, and to that point, they've not rushed

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Speaker 6: him to this point. They've been very deliberate, very cautious,

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Speaker 6: and hopefully they keep with that because now you have

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Speaker 6: of games, and then maybe by the time you get

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Speaker 6: to October, maybe Trayvon is a full goal as far

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Speaker 3: My thing is I over exaggerate when I say eight

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Speaker 3: games in six games in, but that's how far I'm

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Speaker 3: willing to go. But I'm not a part of the

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Speaker 3: training staff. I'm not Trayvon Diggs. He will know the

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Speaker 3: training staff and him will decide.

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Speaker 7: But I just believe when you.

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Speaker 3: Have invested what they've invested in Trayvon like they did

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Speaker 3: was still and with Gallop, it's just it's it's not

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Speaker 3: a noun thing. It's a future thing too, and so

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Speaker 3: uh it's a big picture. Yeah, yeah, that's my big

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Speaker 3: thing is and I do go overboard with that.

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Speaker 7: With that particular injury.

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Speaker 3: You know, if if a guy had an elbow or

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Speaker 3: something like that or big toe, that's one thing, but

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Speaker 3: you're talking about the whole All of these guys had

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Speaker 3: almost restructured needs.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, and uh, that's a mental thing.

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Speaker 3: Man. I've just seen it with players in the past,

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Speaker 3: and and it seemed like the guys that take their

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Speaker 6: I'll add this for those that might be wondering, will

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Speaker 6: Big Nate No. See, you're saying, you know, put Trayvon

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Speaker 6: on the snap count first couple of games and so,

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Speaker 6: but you're not saying that about John Stevens Junior.

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Speaker 5: You're not saying that about the Marrion over Shown.

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Speaker 6: The reason we're not saying it is because the timing

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Speaker 6: of the injury. Okay, John Stevens Junior and Marion over

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Speaker 6: Shown they suffered their tour the a CLS prior weeks

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Speaker 6: prior to during the Preson Diggs. Correct, Trevon Diggs suffered

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Speaker 6: his middle of September, so he was roughly a month behind.

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Speaker 6: And that tracks with what we're saying. We're fine with

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Speaker 6: the Marion Overshown going out there being unleashed in week one.

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Speaker 6: We're fine with John Stevens Junior being unleased week one.

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Speaker 6: But look at the timeline. We're saying, ramp Treyvon up

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Speaker 6: he should be a full go.

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Speaker 3: And another thing, I understand this right here. I'm a realist. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: no one is really talking about Overshown. No one is

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Speaker 3: really talking about John Stevens. That what everybody action. The

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Speaker 3: question is Trayvon, and that is what we're answering. If

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Speaker 3: basically give you the same answer that you know what

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Speaker 2: I also agree that I think well, I disagree almost

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Speaker 2: to a point. For the Marvin Overstown, I kind of

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Speaker 2: want to wait on him too. I would put him

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Speaker 2: on a staff count personally only because I need him.

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Speaker 3: I think they have, but they have him there too

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Speaker 3: because they will not.

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Speaker 5: That's exactly what what if.

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Speaker 6: We split the difference there and do exactly what they're

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Speaker 6: doing and saying, here's your number of steps that you're

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Speaker 6: going to play them off.

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Speaker 5: You're on over shown and they're going to.

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Speaker 6: Be defense not special yes, yeah, and then come October

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Speaker 6: they start working him into special teams if need be,

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Speaker 6: but they already have him on a snap count. Difference

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Speaker 6: being Treyvon Diggs is not playing special teams, right, So

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Speaker 6: you know, the math ain't math and when it comes

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Speaker 6: to Trayvon Diggs. But yeah, they're willing to split the

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Speaker 6: difference whether they're already.

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Speaker 2: Doing it on Demo and John Stevens and same thing,

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Speaker 2: same thing, And we all want to see them, of course,

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Speaker 2: but I think just part of me is a little

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Speaker 2: has PTSD from those injuries and like wanting to see

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Speaker 2: them on the field after training camp last year, of

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Speaker 2: them being so explosive on the field last season. I

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Speaker 2: really need to see them.

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Speaker 5: On the field this year.

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Speaker 2: But I understand this cautiously optimistic.

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Speaker 3: You're listening to three guys that just giving their opinion

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Speaker 3: Britt Brown, Jim Mayer. Yes, and these players will make

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Speaker 3: their decisions on individual needs, you know, not once individual

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Speaker 3: needs and for them and then the team.

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Speaker 7: So but this is just our opinion that.

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Speaker 3: We're excited about these guys and we want to see

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Speaker 3: them as quickly as possible. But I think the difference

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Speaker 5: Of seventeen so he will be good in the postseason.

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Speaker 5: He stab Pauls for suspense. I like that.

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Speaker 6: I like that also real quick shouts out to Johnny

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Speaker 2: Call him Johnny foot or no, I don't have football

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Speaker 5: Oh, Clayborn Clayborn bars shout him.

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Speaker 2: But he I think he's done. Now.

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Speaker 5: I think we're good. We're having fun. That man is

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Speaker 2: Uh coach Brian Schottenheimer. Coach. Oh my gosh, I'm blanking

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Speaker 5: Have you had your opal?

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Speaker 2: Haven't I barely even finished my coffee? That official sponsor

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Speaker 2: Bring out the good. No, we can't do making this man.

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Speaker 2: Special teams and the new kickoff rules, which you were

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Speaker 6: question is are both gonna stay as returners or is

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00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:49,360
Speaker 6: one gonna actually go up and block at the very

440
00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:51,960
Speaker 6: last second, which is gonna throw off what the opposing

441
00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:54,240
Speaker 6: team is trying to do, or is it gonna be

442
00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:57,040
Speaker 6: this returner catches the ball and mister Rex and throws

443
00:21:57,080 --> 00:21:59,840
Speaker 6: it to this So that's gonna create a lot of

444
00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:02,280
Speaker 6: our opportunity for a lot of big plays also for

445
00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:05,399
Speaker 6: the Cowboys, especially with turping, But it creates opportunity for

446
00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:09,480
Speaker 6: somebody else alongside turping to step up and be a returner.

447
00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:11,360
Speaker 6: I know some people on line were it're saying immediately

448
00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:13,720
Speaker 6: it's deuced on I think it might be more strategic

449
00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:16,040
Speaker 6: than that, because if that second returner has to have

450
00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:19,040
Speaker 6: the ability to randomly go up and block, maybe it's

451
00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:21,440
Speaker 6: a running back, and maybe you're talking about somebody like

452
00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:24,919
Speaker 6: ric o'dowdle who also plays special team. So strategic and

453
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Speaker 6: I love that it's gonna make the game that more interesting,

454
00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:28,120
Speaker 6: that much more interesting.

455
00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:30,760
Speaker 3: So where the kickoffs at and all of that, just

456
00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:34,160
Speaker 3: talk about that at the same place, different spots kickoffs.

457
00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:36,199
Speaker 5: Well, it's forty and forty okay.

458
00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:39,000
Speaker 6: And as far as like the blocking is concerned for

459
00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:41,520
Speaker 6: the return team, there's a five yard window in which

460
00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:44,280
Speaker 6: the blockers can exist, right, So you can only have

461
00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:47,040
Speaker 6: three blockers outside of the hashes, right, and you can

462
00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:49,840
Speaker 6: have three inside, but you can have four inside. But

463
00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:51,919
Speaker 6: it depends on if you're gonna drop one back. But

464
00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:55,000
Speaker 6: it has to be within a five yard reference upframe

465
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Speaker 6: of reference, so it shrinks the amount of blockers, not

466
00:22:57,920 --> 00:22:59,399
Speaker 6: not the amount of blockers, but the amount of real

467
00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:03,480
Speaker 6: estate those on. Also key to remember is that no

468
00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:07,800
Speaker 6: one can move until the ball is either touched by

469
00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:10,200
Speaker 6: the receiver or it's you know, our touchback or something

470
00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:12,600
Speaker 6: that effects. So you have the landing zone which is

471
00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:15,480
Speaker 6: twenty yards, and then you have the end zone itself.

472
00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:19,159
Speaker 6: One another big takeaway and again we're studying this to

473
00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:23,520
Speaker 6: try to get our hands around this. The returner barring

474
00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:25,000
Speaker 6: the ball going out of the back of the end zone,

475
00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:27,760
Speaker 6: the returner has to touch the ball. So whether it

476
00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:29,680
Speaker 6: lands in the end zone and kind of just dies

477
00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:32,560
Speaker 6: like a duck and lays there, or it lands in

478
00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:34,639
Speaker 6: the landing zone the green zone and rolls into the

479
00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:36,399
Speaker 6: end zone but not out of the back of the

480
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Speaker 6: end zone. Obviously, in the past, if it rolled into

481
00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:41,760
Speaker 6: the end zone, touchback plays dead. Now if it rolls

482
00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:44,000
Speaker 6: into the end zone, if it's just sitting there, the

483
00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:46,639
Speaker 6: kicking team can run down, pick up that ball and

484
00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:49,879
Speaker 6: it's a touchdown for them, right, So little intricacies like

485
00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:52,800
Speaker 6: that that's really gonna make for a lot of excitement

486
00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:54,040
Speaker 6: going forward with this kickoff.

487
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Speaker 2: For that all to happen in one offseason, that's going

488
00:23:56,359 --> 00:23:59,080
Speaker 2: to be a lot for kicking special teams players to

489
00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:02,600
Speaker 2: process and be able to on the fly understand and

490
00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:05,520
Speaker 2: be able to produce the results on the field. We

491
00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:07,119
Speaker 2: kind of got a preview of it last night at

492
00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:10,160
Speaker 2: the Hall of Fame game. But also the plays weren't

493
00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:12,520
Speaker 2: going anywhere because they weren't trying to show off what

494
00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:14,280
Speaker 2: their playing is for the regular season.

495
00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:17,199
Speaker 3: So now even if they catch it in the end

496
00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:19,600
Speaker 3: zone and don't bring it out, so it just brings

497
00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:21,920
Speaker 3: out to the twenty five, it goes out to the thirty,

498
00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:23,360
Speaker 3: where does the ball be placed?

499
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Speaker 6: And that's what we're digging in to learn because there

500
00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:32,120
Speaker 6: I recall Fossil saying there's a difference in where that

501
00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:36,679
Speaker 6: ball is basically touched back, for example. So there's and

502
00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:38,760
Speaker 6: again I'm not going to until we do the full

503
00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:40,919
Speaker 6: class order and I dig into it. I just know

504
00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:45,040
Speaker 6: for a fact it's not equal at any scenario, right,

505
00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:47,320
Speaker 6: So we'll we'll do some more digging and we'll help

506
00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:48,840
Speaker 6: break it down to the fans as we get a

507
00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:51,840
Speaker 6: better understanding of it. But it's nothing like you've ever

508
00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:55,320
Speaker 6: seen in the NFL. Ever, ever, ever, This is completely different.

509
00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:58,600
Speaker 6: Scrap everything that you've ever learned about the kickoffs in

510
00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:01,359
Speaker 6: the NFL, and it's time to just relearn. But that

511
00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:03,520
Speaker 6: in and of itself is fun. I like learning science

512
00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:03,920
Speaker 6: is fun.

513
00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:05,320
Speaker 2: And if you want to look at some of those

514
00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:08,000
Speaker 2: plays in action, look at the XFL. They had a

515
00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:10,440
Speaker 2: lot of lots to play. They started their their league

516
00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:13,399
Speaker 2: basically off with with these new kicking rules whenever they

517
00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:16,320
Speaker 2: kind of restarted like two years ago. So you can

518
00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:19,320
Speaker 2: see those plays and see the results of them and

519
00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:22,240
Speaker 2: putting them in different situations. Obviously, then we're used to

520
00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:24,120
Speaker 2: it's like always on the twenty five and then that's

521
00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:27,720
Speaker 2: how every drive starts twenty five on twenty five unless

522
00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:31,320
Speaker 2: it's a punt. But more to learn from that, anything

523
00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:35,200
Speaker 2: from Coach Foster or sorry, Coach Zimmer and Coach Schoppenheimer

524
00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:35,640
Speaker 2: that you want.

525
00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:39,080
Speaker 6: To discuss, well, Schottenheimmer is mostly you know, focused on

526
00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:40,520
Speaker 6: and like he said, and I love the fact that

527
00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:43,760
Speaker 6: he was like when he referenced cdee lamb, he said,

528
00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:46,720
Speaker 6: and I quote he'll be here, end quote. We know

529
00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:49,840
Speaker 6: cd just come up just you know, finish handling your

530
00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:51,919
Speaker 6: business and we'll see you soon. But he talked a

531
00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:55,160
Speaker 6: lot about you know what we're talking about on an

532
00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:57,440
Speaker 6: episode to episode basis as far as like these young

533
00:25:57,480 --> 00:26:01,040
Speaker 6: receivers taking advantage of the opportunity he's that they're getting

534
00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:03,960
Speaker 6: and then you know, that includes the three Jalens. That

535
00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:07,320
Speaker 6: includes Tyran Billy Johnson, who I had a side chat

536
00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:09,520
Speaker 6: with and he gave me some good some good quotes

537
00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:12,320
Speaker 6: as well. Go at Voice of the Star shameless plug

538
00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:15,359
Speaker 6: last night. I posted some quotes from him. But David

539
00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:17,600
Speaker 6: Dirten is showing some things. And and then you have

540
00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:21,040
Speaker 6: Cavante Turpin. Obviously he's doing some big things with the

541
00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:21,640
Speaker 6: ones as well.

542
00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:25,320
Speaker 12: Don't you do it, hey man, don't you do it?

543
00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:29,600
Speaker 12: But but yeah, Shotenheimer, he spoke highly of the young

544
00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:32,280
Speaker 12: wide receiver group and that they're taking advantage of their reps.

545
00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:34,040
Speaker 5: And now we got the popcorn going on.

546
00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:37,400
Speaker 7: Fat you smell that fatness came over?

547
00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:48,199
Speaker 6: It's yeah, speaking to the spirit right, but no, so

548
00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:51,360
Speaker 6: he talked about that and basically the level of comfort

549
00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:53,480
Speaker 6: in the offense as far as the players are concerned.

550
00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:56,080
Speaker 6: Last year, this time it was heavy installs. Players were

551
00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:58,560
Speaker 6: trying to figure out their rolling expectations for McCarthy and

552
00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:01,240
Speaker 6: Shottenheimer because last year set Jim's first time as the

553
00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:05,119
Speaker 6: o C even though McCarthy's the play caller. Now everybody's comfortable,

554
00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:07,600
Speaker 6: you know, outside of the rookies who are learning the situation,

555
00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:10,280
Speaker 6: but place right, the installs are in place. Brandon cooks

556
00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:13,200
Speaker 6: he's playing free more freely. Dak Prescott say, he's playing

557
00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:17,720
Speaker 6: more freely than he's ever played. Jyalen Tobart obviously, Cavante Turpin.

558
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:19,840
Speaker 6: So they just need to figure out the running backs room.

559
00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:22,280
Speaker 6: And that was interesting as well because Schottenheimer is not

560
00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:24,320
Speaker 6: shining away from the fact that they're trying to figure

561
00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:28,440
Speaker 6: out the running backs rotation count hunter lipkey, Hunter lipkey.

562
00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:30,280
Speaker 6: You got eight guys back there. You're not going to

563
00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:33,040
Speaker 6: carry eight guys into the season. So yeah, they're gonna

564
00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:33,560
Speaker 6: have to figure that.

565
00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:36,640
Speaker 12: Out over the next four boogie actually el boogie, el boogie,

566
00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:41,439
Speaker 12: Like if you listen to the Players Lounge, they've coined it.

567
00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:44,240
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, if Players Lounges comes up with the name there,

568
00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:48,600
Speaker 2: it's fine, But if Josh Rodriguez does, it's it's unacceptable.

569
00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:52,120
Speaker 2: According to past let's go with that.

570
00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:54,360
Speaker 5: That's that's not entirely untrue.

571
00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:57,639
Speaker 2: But you know, it's fan Friday. Let's jump into some

572
00:27:57,760 --> 00:27:58,719
Speaker 2: fan questions.

573
00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:02,680
Speaker 5: Boys are since y'all got for Big Nate way.

574
00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:05,280
Speaker 2: We want to know, all right, Nate, what is the

575
00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:08,359
Speaker 2: te room looking like? The tight End room looking like

576
00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:13,000
Speaker 2: behind Jake Ferguson, I haven't heard much from Spanford and

577
00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:14,560
Speaker 2: to see the extra alignment type.

578
00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:16,520
Speaker 5: We got to bring him back because he's thinking popcorn,

579
00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:17,120
Speaker 5: bring him back.

580
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:19,960
Speaker 2: What are we thinking of the tight Ends?

581
00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:26,880
Speaker 3: Aside from Jake Luke Schoolmaker's up pronouncing that right. We

582
00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:30,400
Speaker 3: need him to show up and be very, very consistent

583
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:34,520
Speaker 3: this year. He's had some nice catches in practice. He's

584
00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:38,160
Speaker 3: he's staying healthy and we need for him to show up.

585
00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:41,240
Speaker 7: I think Peyton Hendershot.

586
00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:45,080
Speaker 3: This is this year to either make it big kind

587
00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:47,760
Speaker 3: of move to the next level. So because with John

588
00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:50,360
Speaker 3: Stevens coming back, they're gonna ask for this guy's I

589
00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:53,680
Speaker 3: don't pronounced his last name right, They're gonna actually they're

590
00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:55,480
Speaker 3: gonna ask a little bit more from this guy. So

591
00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:59,200
Speaker 3: it's gonna be a little tight race. But I'm looking

592
00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:03,320
Speaker 3: for Schoolmaker to make this thing happen. I mean, you

593
00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:06,720
Speaker 3: gotta you gotta make it happen somehow someway.

594
00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:10,120
Speaker 6: It's so crowded, and I'll make this real quick because

595
00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:13,000
Speaker 6: it's straightforward from me. For the tight Ends, Jake Ferguson

596
00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:14,920
Speaker 6: is Jake Ferguson, and I believe he's gonna have an

597
00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:17,480
Speaker 6: all pro season that taps on a thousand yards. If

598
00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:20,600
Speaker 6: it doesn't get right over that, it's it's like big,

599
00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:24,920
Speaker 6: they said. Luke Schoolmaker needs to remain healthy and then

600
00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:28,160
Speaker 6: continue to stack good days. But he's not going anywhere.

601
00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:30,000
Speaker 6: He's your second round pick from last year.

602
00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:30,479
Speaker 5: Okay.

603
00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:32,840
Speaker 6: John Stevens Jr. Would have made the roster last year

604
00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:35,680
Speaker 6: if not for the torn ACL. So that tells me

605
00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:37,640
Speaker 6: he's gonna make the roster this year. And he's looking

606
00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:40,360
Speaker 6: good at his return from a torn ACL. We know

607
00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:43,360
Speaker 6: what Princeton fans. Princeton fan is more of the blocker, right,

608
00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:46,360
Speaker 6: They're more. He's getting what Sean McEwan used to get

609
00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:48,880
Speaker 6: for the most part. So I believe Princeton fan gets

610
00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:51,520
Speaker 6: a nod if only for special teams and spot blocking,

611
00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:54,480
Speaker 6: inline blocking things like that. Here comes the question, right,

612
00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:58,280
Speaker 6: Alec Holler, pay Hendershot, Brevin span Ford of those three

613
00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:02,080
Speaker 6: Payton Hendershot, he's he's giving you special teams reps, but

614
00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:03,920
Speaker 6: he's not. He didn't flash last year like he did

615
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:04,520
Speaker 6: as a rookie.

616
00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:05,000
Speaker 5: Okay.

617
00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:09,280
Speaker 6: Brevin span Ford was one of the higher priority undrafted

618
00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:11,200
Speaker 6: free agents for the Cowboys. They gave him a good

619
00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:15,040
Speaker 6: amount of guaranteed money and he looks very much the

620
00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:19,560
Speaker 6: part both physically and on the field. Peyton hender Shot

621
00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:23,120
Speaker 6: versus Brevin span Ford versus John Stevens's That's basically what

622
00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:26,600
Speaker 6: I'm looking at. So Peyton Hendershot, he's kind of up

623
00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:28,720
Speaker 6: against the wall there. He needs to really go out

624
00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:31,560
Speaker 6: there over the remainder of training camp and show that

625
00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:34,880
Speaker 6: he had he deserves to be on the roster against

626
00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:36,720
Speaker 6: a guy like Brevin span For the rookie trying to

627
00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:38,520
Speaker 6: come in and take his part. Because again John Stevens

628
00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:40,840
Speaker 6: slop schoolmaker Jake Ferguson. I believe they're on the roster.

629
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:43,000
Speaker 6: I think Princeton Fan gets or not because of what

630
00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:45,840
Speaker 6: he does his skill set. Outside of that, it's a

631
00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:49,520
Speaker 6: battle royale between Hollard for span Ford and hind the shot.

632
00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:52,160
Speaker 2: That being said, I don't think it's being talked about

633
00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:55,240
Speaker 2: enough how good John Stevens is at run blocking talk talk.

634
00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:59,479
Speaker 2: I mean it's it's obviously it's very good. And not

635
00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:02,040
Speaker 2: only are is measurables there, but he is a great

636
00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:05,480
Speaker 2: run blocker so far. You know, as we've seen this

637
00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:07,720
Speaker 2: bar in camp and I'll say it again on August second,

638
00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:11,080
Speaker 2: on August second, But we saw that last year too,

639
00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:13,640
Speaker 2: and he was also making incredible catches last year at camp.

640
00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:16,480
Speaker 5: So and he's at it. Wait, he's at it leads

641
00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:17,680
Speaker 5: to be a better blocker.

642
00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:21,000
Speaker 2: I think for me that's that. That's it right there,

643
00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:26,200
Speaker 2: Jake Schoonmaker, John Stevens, and then that fourth spot. I

644
00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:28,280
Speaker 2: have no idea span.

645
00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:32,920
Speaker 6: Ford, it's it's span Ford wants wants it, Hendershot wants it,

646
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:35,880
Speaker 6: Holler wants it, wants it. Of those last four names

647
00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:38,240
Speaker 6: I mentioned, though, Fan is more of a blocking specialist

648
00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:40,920
Speaker 6: right so I feel like he has an inside track there.

649
00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:43,760
Speaker 6: But Peyton, Hendershot and Brema span Ford they're fighting for

650
00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:47,920
Speaker 6: the same They're fighting with the same skill set, so

651
00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:49,680
Speaker 6: to speak. They both want to show that they can

652
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:53,040
Speaker 6: make plays down the field. Who can actually continue to

653
00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:54,800
Speaker 6: do that in training camp? That's who's going to win

654
00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:55,160
Speaker 6: that job.

655
00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:58,000
Speaker 7: Health inconsistency, Yes, sir, absolutely, Nate.

656
00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:01,240
Speaker 2: Do you think that Jake version Ferguson takes that next step?

657
00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:02,480
Speaker 2: Do you think he's capable.

658
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:05,400
Speaker 3: Of Everybody loves this kid, Other tight ends off, other

659
00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:09,400
Speaker 3: teams love this kid. I've heard the forty nine ers

660
00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:12,240
Speaker 3: tight end talk about them. I've heard just other when

661
00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:15,160
Speaker 3: your other players talk about you and say you're up

662
00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:17,600
Speaker 3: and coming, that means you got a little swaged here.

663
00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:20,840
Speaker 7: So uh, And this kid works.

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00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:24,080
Speaker 3: He doesn't mind working, He doesn't mind doing what's necessary

665
00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:26,960
Speaker 3: for the team. You know, he's one of the few

666
00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:29,400
Speaker 3: guys when things with shady for our quarterback at the

667
00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:30,640
Speaker 3: beginning of the season walking to.

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00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:31,960
Speaker 5: The quarterbacks in a man greenbell.

669
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:36,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm riding with you. Whatever happens, I'm with you. Hey, bro,

670
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:39,200
Speaker 3: that goes a long way. That goes a long way.

671
00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:41,440
Speaker 2: Man, you just mentioned it. They're that Green Bay game.

672
00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:43,840
Speaker 2: One of the one two Cowboys that showed.

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00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:46,120
Speaker 5: Up in that game, Jake Ferguson was him.

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00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:50,720
Speaker 6: Listen and to Nex's point, when when Travis Kelce looks

675
00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:53,800
Speaker 6: at a tight end and says he's got next, which

676
00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:56,200
Speaker 6: is exactly what's happened with Jake Ferguson, And then you

677
00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:58,880
Speaker 6: see Ferguson going out there improving him right.

678
00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:01,120
Speaker 5: And what more do you need to see? What more

679
00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:02,520
Speaker 5: do you need to see? All right?

680
00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:05,680
Speaker 2: Another fan question, this is from TJ and Baltimore. With

681
00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:08,760
Speaker 2: all of Brendon Auber's success last season and assuming all

682
00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:11,960
Speaker 2: goes well at camp. Do you see it being automatic

683
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:16,600
Speaker 2: to go for sixty yard field goals? I don't think

684
00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:17,440
Speaker 2: we should be worried about it.

685
00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:21,560
Speaker 3: Depend on the team, depend on the situation, what's on

686
00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:26,360
Speaker 3: the line. That's that's that's what that's about. But I

687
00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:30,440
Speaker 3: I really don't like my kickers, even if they can

688
00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:32,760
Speaker 3: make sixcy. I like my kickers forty five yards and

689
00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:35,600
Speaker 3: then I like to give them. I like my cancer

690
00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:38,640
Speaker 3: to have high success rates. And that means I need

691
00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:41,560
Speaker 3: a great offense, Thank you. I need a great offense.

692
00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:44,360
Speaker 3: I don't want it to rely on no kicker for nothing.

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Speaker 6: If you're if you're relying on sixty yard field goals,

694
00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:50,720
Speaker 6: it means that your third down conversion rate sucks. It

695
00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:53,640
Speaker 6: means that you're not, to borrow the phrase from the

696
00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:56,200
Speaker 6: late great John Matt, you're not matriculating the ball down

697
00:33:56,280 --> 00:34:00,200
Speaker 6: the field effectively on a on a down on the

698
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:03,160
Speaker 6: down basis. So I'm right there with Big Nate. I

699
00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:05,640
Speaker 6: don't want to see sixty yard field goals unless like

700
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:08,319
Speaker 6: the game is on the line. Yeah, it's situational for me.

701
00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:11,880
Speaker 6: But to if I'm understanding the question, to default to

702
00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:15,520
Speaker 6: sixty yard field goals being Okay, over the course of

703
00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:19,000
Speaker 6: a game, no task your offense with moving the ball

704
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:20,919
Speaker 6: and moving the chains, and you won't have to worry

705
00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:23,319
Speaker 6: about sixty yard field goals. Hell, you won't have to

706
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:25,840
Speaker 6: worry about forty forty five yards because hopefully you're punching

707
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:27,760
Speaker 6: the ball in whenever you get a chance.

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00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:30,120
Speaker 3: Don't you know what a sixty yard field goal if

709
00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:32,200
Speaker 3: you miss where the other teams start at.

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00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:35,480
Speaker 6: Yeah, field position is also that. So yeah, Ken Brandon

711
00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:39,680
Speaker 6: already do it. Absolutely he can't, but don't just pretend

712
00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:43,120
Speaker 6: he can't until you absolutely need to be reminded that

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00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:43,480
Speaker 6: he can.

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00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:44,680
Speaker 5: That's how I look at it.

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Speaker 7: Thank you.

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Speaker 2: Next question, this is from the seven to five seventy

717
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:50,759
Speaker 2: Do not leave a name, But are the Cowboys going

718
00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:53,279
Speaker 2: to use their backs more so in the passing game

719
00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:54,040
Speaker 2: this season?

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Speaker 7: I think they are.

721
00:34:55,760 --> 00:35:00,680
Speaker 3: I think McCarthy's been waiting on an opportunity to use them. Well,

722
00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:03,960
Speaker 3: Tony started out slow a little, he wasn't healthy as

723
00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:06,680
Speaker 3: he should have been. Uh and he get healthy util

724
00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:09,399
Speaker 3: late in the season. But I think they that would

725
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:12,120
Speaker 3: have to be part of the game plan, that that

726
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:16,759
Speaker 3: short passion game is a long handled run game. And

727
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:21,600
Speaker 3: Zeke and Ric O'Donnell and Hanter Lempke because those are

728
00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:24,960
Speaker 3: my three backs. If anybody else barge they weighing there, fine,

729
00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:27,920
Speaker 3: but I'm not. Those are the three guys I'm looking for.

730
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:30,080
Speaker 3: And if and and and all three of them can

731
00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:33,640
Speaker 3: catch the ball. So I'm good with that. We got

732
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:34,960
Speaker 3: that venom on me.

733
00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:37,399
Speaker 2: But he's done.

734
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:39,560
Speaker 5: Now listen, Eddie Brock. We're trying to do a show here.

735
00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:45,200
Speaker 6: I believe that Mike McCarthy is going to utilize Wait

736
00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:49,200
Speaker 6: a minute, Wait a minute, wait a minute, is this

737
00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:54,400
Speaker 6: Kyle Yeoman's and Isaiah stand back kicking us off the show?

738
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:54,120
Speaker 7: Oh?

739
00:35:55,120 --> 00:36:00,920
Speaker 6: Oh my guys are here some boys, My god.

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00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:08,640
Speaker 2: Welcome back, chyl you stand back cowboys.

741
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Speaker 7: These Suprema Donna's.

742
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Speaker 3: Mister Black College Football himself, NFL Network.

743
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:23,239
Speaker 6: Oh man, we got some We got some level a

744
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:27,439
Speaker 6: great dudes up in him. Man, y'all stay in the frame.

745
00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:30,879
Speaker 5: Don't goad. Finish the answer, real quick, standing frame.

746
00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:33,320
Speaker 6: Okay, So Mike McCarthy, I do believe it's going to

747
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:36,080
Speaker 6: use the running backs more as far as receivers out

748
00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:38,399
Speaker 6: of the backfield. Were already seen that with Duce Fall,

749
00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:40,879
Speaker 6: which kind of serves double duty because they're also trying

750
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:43,399
Speaker 6: to figure out the niche for news Vaughan du Von

751
00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:45,799
Speaker 6: going forward, but you're gonna see it more from Duke Vall.

752
00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:47,640
Speaker 6: You're gonna see it from Hunter Lipkey. I posted a

753
00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:51,440
Speaker 6: couple of practice clips U two days ago when in

754
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:53,879
Speaker 6: a span of three plays, Hunter lip Key leaked out

755
00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:56,560
Speaker 6: of the backfield, got into the middle of the linebacker,

756
00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:58,560
Speaker 6: said it was space, He turned around, he sat down,

757
00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:00,839
Speaker 6: and he got the ball from Dak Prescott. So from

758
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:03,440
Speaker 6: that moving forward, you're going to see more of like

759
00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:06,880
Speaker 6: Big Nate was saying, those quick hit quick us out

760
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:09,479
Speaker 6: of the backfield, kind of acting as like quasi run

761
00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:11,320
Speaker 6: plays to keep the defenses off balance.

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Speaker 2: All right, boys, let's take our last break when we

763
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:16,960
Speaker 2: come back. More from Kyle Yeoman, guys, more from Isaiah Stanback.

764
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Speaker 2: We'll be right back after this.

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Speaker 13: let's hear from my next caller.

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Speaker 1: To Talking Cowboys.

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00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:33,799
Speaker 2: Welcome back to Talking Cowboys live in Oxtar, California. We

812
00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:35,760
Speaker 2: were joined by Kyle Yeoman's. We were joined by Isaiah

813
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:38,680
Speaker 2: stand Back, Patrick Nocie Walker. I'm Josh Edreez. This is

814
00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:43,080
Speaker 2: the full talking Cowboys group. This is finally us. We

815
00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:47,920
Speaker 2: are complete. Like Thanos, we are inevitable. The Infinity Stones

816
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:51,680
Speaker 2: are back together. This sortion of talking Cowboys is brought

817
00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:53,680
Speaker 2: to you by visial Line, the official smile of the

818
00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:57,960
Speaker 2: Dallas Cowboys. Thank you guys so much for being here.

819
00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:00,480
Speaker 2: We gotta give them the pause. That's what people back

820
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:01,799
Speaker 2: home watching the firly w facts.

821
00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:05,040
Speaker 14: Do you guys want to hear a story how we

822
00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:05,520
Speaker 14: got here?

823
00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:09,640
Speaker 4: So Isaiah and I set.

824
00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:11,080
Speaker 14: It up a couple of weeks ago where we were.

825
00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:13,640
Speaker 14: We were booking the flight out to Oxnard. And of

826
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Speaker 14: course I haven't been here because my wife and I

827
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:17,080
Speaker 14: had triplets in February.

828
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:19,759
Speaker 4: Babies at home. They are all healthy, they're all doing

829
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:22,200
Speaker 4: great kind of to help out. My wife's a rock

830
00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:24,080
Speaker 4: star for even letting me come out here period.

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Speaker 14: Absolutely so unbelievable that she's even let me do this

832
00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:30,120
Speaker 14: for the shortened amount of time.

833
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:32,720
Speaker 4: But we we scheduled this flight out.

834
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Speaker 14: Here about a month ago, and we were in twenty

835
00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:39,760
Speaker 14: two road twenty two F the window seat rode twenty

836
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:42,080
Speaker 14: two D the aisle seat, and that's what Isaiah and

837
00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:42,439
Speaker 14: I had.

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00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:46,080
Speaker 4: The middle seat was still open happened well within the

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Speaker 4: last couple of weeks.

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Speaker 14: Our producer Caden Gates, who is also shout out to Caiden,

841
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Speaker 14: he made the trip out there with us and they

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Speaker 14: added them on late and we were looking on the

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Speaker 14: American happ and I said, hey, Cayden, the seat in

844
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Speaker 14: between Isaiah and I is.

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Speaker 5: Open ice cream sandwich.

846
00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:03,200
Speaker 4: So there's I was like, go ahead and book it.

847
00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:05,520
Speaker 4: So he books it. He's good to go. He books it,

848
00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:06,359
Speaker 4: We're ready to roll.

849
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:11,040
Speaker 14: So going into last night, in the check in process,

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Speaker 14: I thought we were all sitting together in this twenty

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00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:15,520
Speaker 14: two f Yeah, well, you check in on the American

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00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:17,520
Speaker 14: Airlines app and the great deals that they have on

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00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:21,799
Speaker 14: the American app. They actually had a seat upgrade possibility

854
00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:23,960
Speaker 14: to go to first class beamer.

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Speaker 4: It was like ninety four bucks.

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00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:27,800
Speaker 14: It was nothing, and you get like a bag checked free,

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Speaker 14: two backs.

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00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:32,279
Speaker 5: You know, it cost just to check.

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00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:35,520
Speaker 14: So it's like not even not even a tall upgrade

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Speaker 14: like first class seat.

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00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:36,920
Speaker 2: And I looked at it.

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Speaker 14: I was like, man, I was like, I'm gonna be

863
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Speaker 14: getting up at three am. I was like, I haven't

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00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:43,120
Speaker 14: gotten a lot of sleep lately anyways, because of the babies.

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Speaker 14: I was like I could go first class here, but

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Speaker 14: you know what, we're sitting together. I'm gonna go ahead

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Speaker 14: and pass on.

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Speaker 4: Dude, I know what this is.

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Speaker 15: Going go ahead, and I'm gonna go ahead and pass

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Speaker 15: on this to be a team player, to be able

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Speaker 15: to sit with my two brothers and have a good

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00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:02,040
Speaker 15: time on the flight over.

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Speaker 4: Sure enough, we get there.

874
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:06,680
Speaker 14: We get to the airport this morning, we've seen each

875
00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:09,480
Speaker 14: other at the gate and Isai. They say like, hey,

876
00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:12,040
Speaker 14: group one, on your way, and Isaiah stands.

877
00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:17,520
Speaker 2: Up, stand back, not stand by.

878
00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:17,919
Speaker 5: Yeah.

879
00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:20,480
Speaker 4: I looked at Isaiah. I was like, dude, what are

880
00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:22,760
Speaker 4: you doing? And he was like, oh, no, I'm first class.

881
00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:28,000
Speaker 5: You're a shows that.

882
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:28,920
Speaker 4: That is how we got here.

883
00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:36,920
Speaker 5: There's the class list. There's no but there is yea.

884
00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:44,800
Speaker 16: Yeah, listen the way my legs are set up the build, dude.

885
00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:47,720
Speaker 14: The worst case scenario would have been if I decided

886
00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:49,400
Speaker 14: to do it too, and I can.

887
00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:56,239
Speaker 4: We told Kayden to take the middle will Smith on

888
00:42:56,280 --> 00:43:00,239
Speaker 4: the final episode, he looks like he's all right.

889
00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:03,120
Speaker 14: He takes the middle seat of this flight with two

890
00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:06,240
Speaker 14: strangers after what he told him to book the middle

891
00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:07,719
Speaker 14: seat and take off.

892
00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:10,520
Speaker 2: The first I can see him back there like oh,

893
00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:13,160
Speaker 2: I was explaining yourself.

894
00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:15,319
Speaker 5: I was operating off of no sleepy.

895
00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:18,160
Speaker 16: I just got back taking my daughter to track National

896
00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:21,680
Speaker 16: I didn't get I literally got zero sleep last night.

897
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:22,480
Speaker 5: Zero.

898
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:24,120
Speaker 7: I'll bring off zero. Okay.

899
00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:26,480
Speaker 4: I was watching the Olympics at three o'clock this morning.

900
00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:27,600
Speaker 5: All right, I came straight to.

901
00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:29,000
Speaker 2: The airport my legs.

902
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:30,200
Speaker 4: I needed the extension.

903
00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:34,000
Speaker 6: I need to extendo the go go gadgets and stretch

904
00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:35,840
Speaker 6: out and get some sleep because otherwise I wouldn't be

905
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:36,839
Speaker 6: able to come here and be with y'all.

906
00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:38,879
Speaker 4: Yeah, and you know what, the first thing he said

907
00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:40,000
Speaker 4: whenever he popped off.

908
00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:42,000
Speaker 5: I will sleep before they even Yes, boy, he.

909
00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:44,000
Speaker 4: Was like, dude, I just got three full hours. I

910
00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:45,279
Speaker 4: was like, it must have been nice.

911
00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:48,759
Speaker 5: Dog exhausted from the trip.

912
00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:49,919
Speaker 4: Yeah, my knees are hurting.

913
00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:50,600
Speaker 7: My necks.

914
00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:54,879
Speaker 16: Craye Kane sitting in the middle seat, he had he's

915
00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:55,440
Speaker 16: a bathroom.

916
00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:57,359
Speaker 5: And the person that that I all was sleep will sleep.

917
00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:02,040
Speaker 5: A person in that that always happens.

918
00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:06,880
Speaker 4: So yeah, so we're not talking football right now.

919
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:07,440
Speaker 7: We're back.

920
00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:10,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, we tak talking American Airlines fan questions.

921
00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:11,680
Speaker 2: We got a couple more.

922
00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:13,799
Speaker 5: Yeah, let's go to day.

923
00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:17,480
Speaker 2: But let's go with you guys have been thinking about

924
00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:21,200
Speaker 2: this is last season. If you had to bet, when

925
00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:23,319
Speaker 2: would you say the Cowboys w win another Super Bowl

926
00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:28,920
Speaker 2: in the next five years, ten years, twenty First use

927
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:29,800
Speaker 2: to end one day.

928
00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:32,920
Speaker 5: Right out of it. Well, let's start with Isaiah. You're

929
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:37,960
Speaker 5: more arrested, so you start first.

930
00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:39,680
Speaker 4: The Cowboys win another super Bowl.

931
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:42,200
Speaker 16: That's I mean, anybody could throw anything against the wall

932
00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:44,759
Speaker 16: right now, right, I mean, so there's there's no real

933
00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:48,000
Speaker 16: predictions there. I mean, I'm I'm I am excited to

934
00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:50,080
Speaker 16: see what these guys are able to put together this year.

935
00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:53,400
Speaker 16: Obviously every year is exciting, but obviously with the new

936
00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:56,080
Speaker 16: defensive coordinator coming in, seeing how these guys bond together

937
00:44:57,000 --> 00:45:00,600
Speaker 16: once his offense gets together, they get settled in seeing

938
00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:02,840
Speaker 16: what they do. But also, I mean, not outside of

939
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:04,960
Speaker 16: which is what they're able to do. It's about your

940
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:08,240
Speaker 16: division as well. So about your division, is about your conference.

941
00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:11,240
Speaker 16: So there's so many factors mass so I can't answer

942
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:12,160
Speaker 16: that question right now.

943
00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:15,520
Speaker 14: Well, and I think the NFC being wide open right now,

944
00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:18,279
Speaker 14: and the fact that you could arguably have the best

945
00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:21,760
Speaker 14: quarterback in your entire conference, not even just the division,

946
00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:25,640
Speaker 14: and maybe the one guy that's the contender, and that

947
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:27,800
Speaker 14: is in your division with Jalen Hurts and company.

948
00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:32,320
Speaker 4: But it's still possible. Let's not get it twisted. This

949
00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:33,520
Speaker 4: is still a good football team.

950
00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:36,680
Speaker 14: They're returning nine former All Pros, and by All Pros,

951
00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:39,080
Speaker 14: I mean guys that have won that honor in the

952
00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:40,120
Speaker 14: last two seasons.

953
00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:43,279
Speaker 4: So I mean they have talent. The depth is where

954
00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:45,440
Speaker 4: I have some questions, and in order to win a

955
00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:46,759
Speaker 4: Super Bowl you have to have depth.

956
00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:49,000
Speaker 14: So I think it's gonna take some time. I don't

957
00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:52,879
Speaker 14: think they're in that contending space now. If they want

958
00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:54,360
Speaker 14: to make some moves and get to that point, I

959
00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:57,160
Speaker 14: think that's possible because they have the top end talent.

960
00:45:57,520 --> 00:46:00,239
Speaker 14: It's the depth and the longevity and the durability. We're

961
00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:02,480
Speaker 14: already seeing it tested. We had one injury with Sam

962
00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:04,879
Speaker 14: Williams at the defensive end position, and they go when

963
00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:06,840
Speaker 14: they sign two guys because they know that depth is

964
00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:09,320
Speaker 14: being tested. So as soon as that happens at corner,

965
00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:11,040
Speaker 14: as soon as that happens at linebacker, as soon as

966
00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:14,080
Speaker 14: that happens at wide receiver, running back, I mean.

967
00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:17,319
Speaker 4: Anything, it could be anything on this rock. Starting eleven good,

968
00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:19,000
Speaker 4: you're starting twenty two guys.

969
00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:21,600
Speaker 14: You feel pretty good about. But outside of that is

970
00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:23,279
Speaker 14: where you have some questions. And I think in order

971
00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:24,759
Speaker 14: to win a Super Bowl you have to have depth,

972
00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:25,960
Speaker 14: and I don't think this team has it.

973
00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:26,279
Speaker 7: Well.

974
00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:29,759
Speaker 6: Excellent points plural made by both Kyle and Isaiah, and

975
00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:31,959
Speaker 6: and I'll kind of dovetail off of one of Cole's points,

976
00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:33,719
Speaker 6: it's let's shrink it.

977
00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:37,919
Speaker 5: Win your division, compete within your division. You can do that, Okay.

978
00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:40,440
Speaker 6: If you compete within your division and win your division,

979
00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:42,840
Speaker 6: especially a division as good as the NFC East, you

980
00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:44,960
Speaker 6: may end up in second place in the NFC East

981
00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:46,399
Speaker 6: and that should be good enough to get you into

982
00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:46,960
Speaker 6: the playoffs.

983
00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:48,920
Speaker 5: And then at that point, the question is what does

984
00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:50,279
Speaker 5: everybody's team look like?

985
00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:52,719
Speaker 6: Because everybody's team is not going to look the same

986
00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:55,400
Speaker 6: come January, second, third, fourth, as it looks going in

987
00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:57,720
Speaker 6: the training camp, because you have injuries, you have attrition

988
00:46:57,840 --> 00:47:00,920
Speaker 6: and things like that. So what moves the Cowboys make

989
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:03,120
Speaker 6: over the course of the season. The trade deadline got

990
00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:05,160
Speaker 6: pushed back a little bit this year. What kind of

991
00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:07,800
Speaker 6: trades do they make to kind of boaster defensive tackle?

992
00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:10,439
Speaker 6: What free agency signers do they make to boaster defensive tackle?

993
00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:12,720
Speaker 6: In some of these other positions. So I do believe

994
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:15,320
Speaker 6: that the Cowboys, as we have this conversation August second,

995
00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:17,200
Speaker 6: are they in the Super Bowl conversation?

996
00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:17,480
Speaker 10: No?

997
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:18,520
Speaker 5: Can they be?

998
00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:21,319
Speaker 6: Yes, But it depends on how they handle the roster

999
00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:24,200
Speaker 6: management between now and the end of the season and

1000
00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:26,800
Speaker 6: as far as the window for the Super Bowl. I

1001
00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:30,040
Speaker 6: will say, based on all of the variablests, Mike McCarthy

1002
00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:32,080
Speaker 6: is on the contract year. I do believe that's gonna

1003
00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:35,080
Speaker 6: get done. I could not be more confident that cedielamb

1004
00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:36,560
Speaker 6: is going to get done. I believe it gets done.

1005
00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:42,160
Speaker 6: But that being said at the time that being said,

1006
00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:46,520
Speaker 6: bottom line is the head coach is on a contract year. Okay,

1007
00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:49,799
Speaker 6: Mike Zimmer your new defensive quarter coordinator on the contract year.

1008
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:52,400
Speaker 6: Nobody wants to talk about it, but the fact is, well, McLay,

1009
00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:56,520
Speaker 6: what's his future look like in Dallas. So it's not

1010
00:47:56,640 --> 00:48:00,200
Speaker 6: a now or never, but it's a now or you're

1011
00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:02,360
Speaker 6: not having this conversation again for the next eight to

1012
00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:02,879
Speaker 6: ten years.

1013
00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:05,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, it is. It is one show me.

1014
00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:08,239
Speaker 14: If you talk about the window, the window of opportunity

1015
00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:10,879
Speaker 14: is always a very heavy thing.

1016
00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:17,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's still there.

1017
00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:22,880
Speaker 2: Standing out. It's stending out what I have one more

1018
00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:25,239
Speaker 2: question for both of you before we wrap up. You're here.

1019
00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:28,120
Speaker 2: You just got here. For people that don't, they literally

1020
00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:31,080
Speaker 2: just literally walked in this morning, check check the room,

1021
00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:34,160
Speaker 2: not even checking the room all stars. So from afar,

1022
00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:36,520
Speaker 2: you've been kind of keeping up with training camp. Who

1023
00:48:36,560 --> 00:48:38,359
Speaker 2: are you most excited to get your eyes on now

1024
00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:40,520
Speaker 2: that you're on the field right here behind you.

1025
00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:44,160
Speaker 4: You got the player I'll take. I'll take Tyler Guidon.

1026
00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:47,280
Speaker 14: I want to see it because on film, the footwork,

1027
00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:50,640
Speaker 14: the strength, the power, and then I mean, especially when

1028
00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:52,640
Speaker 14: he was working with the first team snaps. I know

1029
00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:54,600
Speaker 14: Tuma had that banged up injury in the first.

1030
00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:56,440
Speaker 4: Day of pads. He was back for the second day

1031
00:48:56,440 --> 00:48:57,000
Speaker 4: of pads.

1032
00:48:56,760 --> 00:48:58,440
Speaker 14: And a lot of those first team reps went back

1033
00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:01,480
Speaker 14: to Tuma. I think Tyler Geyiten was more impressive in

1034
00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:03,879
Speaker 14: his first team snaps than true Madoga was. And by think,

1035
00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:06,239
Speaker 14: I mean that the eye in this guy doesn't lie.

1036
00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:08,880
Speaker 14: I mean watching the film, Geydon was powerful.

1037
00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:10,160
Speaker 4: But I want to see it in person. I want

1038
00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:12,440
Speaker 4: to see it up close, and you'll see me if.

1039
00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:13,920
Speaker 14: You want to find me on the field today, if

1040
00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:16,000
Speaker 14: you're coming out to Oxnard, I'm going to be over

1041
00:49:16,080 --> 00:49:18,240
Speaker 14: by the offensive lineman. That's where I will be watching

1042
00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:20,600
Speaker 14: because I want to see Tyler Guidon. I haven't seen

1043
00:49:20,680 --> 00:49:22,600
Speaker 14: him with my own eyes yet. I want to see

1044
00:49:22,640 --> 00:49:25,640
Speaker 14: how he's able to continue that footwork, continue building because

1045
00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:29,320
Speaker 14: he's still a rookie. But right now, I'm more excited

1046
00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:31,680
Speaker 14: about what I've seen from Tyler Goydon than I was

1047
00:49:31,719 --> 00:49:33,560
Speaker 14: at this point a couple of years ago when Tyler

1048
00:49:33,640 --> 00:49:35,960
Speaker 14: Smith was a first round draft pick on the offensive line.

1049
00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:39,200
Speaker 14: I had questions around Tyler Smith this early in camp.

1050
00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:42,000
Speaker 14: Tyler Goyden has answered a lot of those questions early,

1051
00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:44,840
Speaker 14: and it's exciting to look forward to Oversham.

1052
00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:48,400
Speaker 16: That's what I want to see, not only just because

1053
00:49:48,440 --> 00:49:51,479
Speaker 16: I like him as a person. I was excited about

1054
00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:53,400
Speaker 16: him last year prior to him trying as aco in

1055
00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:54,239
Speaker 16: the preseason game.

1056
00:49:54,920 --> 00:49:56,640
Speaker 5: But I want to see how he bounces back from

1057
00:49:56,680 --> 00:49:57,160
Speaker 5: that injury.

1058
00:49:57,400 --> 00:49:59,680
Speaker 16: There's been a number of guys, unfortunately in this organization

1059
00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:03,160
Speaker 16: after and sustained that same injury, and not everybody came

1060
00:50:03,239 --> 00:50:04,200
Speaker 16: back the same.

1061
00:50:04,239 --> 00:50:06,799
Speaker 5: Type of player. So I'm interested to see exactly how

1062
00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:08,880
Speaker 5: he's moving. That's something I was like last year.

1063
00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:10,880
Speaker 16: I was I was watching you know, Gallon over the

1064
00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:12,799
Speaker 16: last few years in terms of him coming back from

1065
00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:15,520
Speaker 16: his injury. And I was able to tell pretty early

1066
00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:17,719
Speaker 16: on that I was like, I'm not sure how that

1067
00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:19,840
Speaker 16: he that he's ever going to really come back. Unfortunately

1068
00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:22,000
Speaker 16: that was just from my eyes seeing it here at camp.

1069
00:50:22,160 --> 00:50:24,239
Speaker 16: I want to see can overshow and get in and

1070
00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:28,320
Speaker 16: out of his breaks? Can he come downhill? What's his

1071
00:50:28,360 --> 00:50:30,800
Speaker 16: acceleration looking like? You know, does he have the confidence?

1072
00:50:30,840 --> 00:50:34,759
Speaker 16: So that linebacker position, obviously, especially with Zimmer coming in

1073
00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:39,440
Speaker 16: the culture there matters, but also the speed matters because

1074
00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:41,200
Speaker 16: they don't necessarily have all the size.

1075
00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:44,120
Speaker 4: See this is Red River rivalry, this is this is Texas.

1076
00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:46,880
Speaker 4: That's what we want to see. And he was sitting

1077
00:50:46,920 --> 00:50:50,400
Speaker 4: in first class. I was more of a general economy

1078
00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:51,680
Speaker 4: guy making.

1079
00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:54,399
Speaker 7: Here to work.

1080
00:50:55,800 --> 00:50:57,120
Speaker 4: Here for the equipment room.

1081
00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:01,400
Speaker 5: He's here for the Zimmer Glimmer.

1082
00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:03,520
Speaker 2: All right, boys, that's gonna be it for talking cowboys.

1083
00:51:03,520 --> 00:51:05,760
Speaker 2: We're out of time. But I want to thank Isaiah

1084
00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:07,120
Speaker 2: standing back, I want to thank Kyle j Omens for

1085
00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:09,480
Speaker 2: jumping on here. First thing. The first thing that they

1086
00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:12,880
Speaker 2: did was finally got the line it back together in

1087
00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:16,359
Speaker 2: a huge, gigantic thank you to Nate Newton for being

1088
00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:18,880
Speaker 2: on the show the last two weeks. We really appreciate

1089
00:51:18,960 --> 00:51:21,239
Speaker 2: you more than you know. Thank you all so much

1090
00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:24,600
Speaker 2: for tuning into Talking Cowboys. We will see you on Tuesday.

1091
00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:29,600
Speaker 1: This has been a production of dallascowboys dot Com and

1092
00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:31,600
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