1
00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,160
Speaker 1: Hey, thanks for listening to the Two Pros and a

2
00:00:03,240 --> 00:00:07,640
Speaker 1: Cup of Joe Podcast with Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox, and myself,

3
00:00:07,760 --> 00:00:11,400
Speaker 1: LeVar Arrington. Make sure you catch us live weekdays six

4
00:00:11,440 --> 00:00:15,280
Speaker 1: to nine am Eastern or three am to six am

5
00:00:15,320 --> 00:00:18,520
Speaker 1: Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. You can find your local

6
00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:20,840
Speaker 1: station for the Two Pros and a Cup of Joe

7
00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:25,079
Speaker 1: show over at Fox Sports Radio dot com, or stream

8
00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:28,880
Speaker 1: us live every day on the iHeartRadio app by searching

9
00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:30,360
Speaker 1: f s R.

10
00:00:32,680 --> 00:00:35,960
Speaker 2: Get this, you're listening to Fox Sports Radio.

11
00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:42,600
Speaker 3: By the way, you at a Are you at a

12
00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:44,440
Speaker 3: Penn State State College right now?

13
00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:46,120
Speaker 1: Yeah? Now?

14
00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:49,200
Speaker 3: Is that the same place where Lead the Lab helped

15
00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:50,520
Speaker 3: himself to a bag of chips?

16
00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:54,200
Speaker 1: That was correct? Yeah, I'm in that room where they

17
00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:58,480
Speaker 1: got all the goodies. That's right. It's very tempting.

18
00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:01,880
Speaker 3: Before we to the tailgate. Before went to the Stick

19
00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:05,319
Speaker 3: City tailgate, LeVar was doing his show and I was

20
00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:08,840
Speaker 3: doing mine right afterwards, and I'm waiting. I'm waiting as

21
00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:11,560
Speaker 3: LaVar's finishing up, and Lee just grabs a bag of

22
00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:14,040
Speaker 3: chips and starts eating a bag of chips and didn't

23
00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:15,640
Speaker 3: belong to him.

24
00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:19,800
Speaker 1: A touched one man.

25
00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:23,400
Speaker 4: It's but there's like a bunch of Halloween candy leftovers

26
00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:24,360
Speaker 4: and chips.

27
00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:30,360
Speaker 1: I toldly like, look, man, like we're in a very

28
00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:35,800
Speaker 1: very secure area. And this secure area happens to be

29
00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:41,280
Speaker 1: during football season, so it's even more high security. You know,

30
00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:44,600
Speaker 1: you got all kinds of people out here on a Saturday,

31
00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:49,080
Speaker 1: on a Saturday on game day. Yes, and Lee's just

32
00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:55,720
Speaker 1: walking around the facility, Like I was just walking around

33
00:01:55,800 --> 00:01:57,960
Speaker 1: the facility. I'm like, where did you go?

34
00:01:58,160 --> 00:02:02,800
Speaker 3: Like, Bro, it was a big old TV I was

35
00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:03,760
Speaker 3: watching watching the.

36
00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:11,040
Speaker 1: Bro like something. It's interesting knowing like the whole spatial

37
00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:15,880
Speaker 1: awareness and understanding of what's going on around you. Like

38
00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:19,760
Speaker 1: you were so close to danger, bro, Like it's the

39
00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:22,880
Speaker 1: wildest thing. Like you had no idea how close the

40
00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:28,000
Speaker 1: danger you were, and you you were you were running

41
00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:33,440
Speaker 1: the risk of getting grabbed up, yoked up, thrown up,

42
00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:39,560
Speaker 1: tossed up, and sat down before you even realize what happened.

43
00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:43,000
Speaker 1: Hey man, you know what. I'm sitting there looking at

44
00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:45,720
Speaker 1: him like he comes back in the room. I'm like, leeve,

45
00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:50,360
Speaker 1: you can't do that. Yeah, we're can't. You can't just

46
00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:54,520
Speaker 1: walk around the main Bruh. You're in the Death Star

47
00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:59,680
Speaker 1: on game day and you have, you have no credential,

48
00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:04,880
Speaker 1: nobody knows who you are on game day and find them.

49
00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:09,919
Speaker 1: We got coaches offices, you got game plans on boards,

50
00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:13,119
Speaker 1: you know you got, you got draft boards, you got,

51
00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:17,400
Speaker 1: you got recruiting boards, you got I mean Lee. I

52
00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:19,680
Speaker 1: looked at Lee and I was like the fact that

53
00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:23,200
Speaker 1: you were totally oblivious to the fact that you're in

54
00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:30,320
Speaker 1: Penn State's football building, the last building, walking around unaccompanied

55
00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:33,120
Speaker 1: with no type of.

56
00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:36,600
Speaker 4: Trophy case and watching the TVs.

57
00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:41,400
Speaker 3: So, you know, the other part of this is, so

58
00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:44,520
Speaker 3: we're in State College last year. We're staying at the

59
00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:47,640
Speaker 3: Graduate Hotel and we get there to do the Friday

60
00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:50,600
Speaker 3: morning show, and then LeVar and I have shows on Saturday,

61
00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:52,920
Speaker 3: and so we were going to fly out later on

62
00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:55,720
Speaker 3: that night, but we were going to do our Saturday shows.

63
00:03:56,120 --> 00:03:58,560
Speaker 3: They're from the building, and LaVar was nice enough to

64
00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:01,040
Speaker 3: get us a space stairs so that we could do

65
00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:05,600
Speaker 3: our shows. And so I go downstairs at the hotel

66
00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:09,200
Speaker 3: because Levar's show starts at noon Eastern time. And I

67
00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:13,520
Speaker 3: go downstairs at the hotel Saturday morning, like around I

68
00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:18,279
Speaker 3: don't know, eleven thirty, like a half hour before Levar's show,

69
00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:21,719
Speaker 3: and I get a coffee. And as I'm walking back

70
00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:25,039
Speaker 3: towards the elevator, I see Lee scrambling out of the

71
00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:30,200
Speaker 3: elevator with all his bags and I'm like, well, geez,

72
00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:34,880
Speaker 3: you should have been there by now. Lee was in

73
00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:38,720
Speaker 3: such a panic. And then he got over there and

74
00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:41,440
Speaker 3: he tells me he's given me instructions on how to

75
00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:43,760
Speaker 3: get into the building when I arrive and we walk

76
00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:46,320
Speaker 3: in there, and I can clearly see that, Okay, like

77
00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:48,960
Speaker 3: we've got to be careful here. You got to tread lightly,

78
00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:52,080
Speaker 3: like there is. If you're gonna get coffee, you go once,

79
00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:55,720
Speaker 3: and you make straight to where you're going. Yes, everything

80
00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:57,800
Speaker 3: you do, you go straight to where you're going, you

81
00:04:57,839 --> 00:05:01,080
Speaker 3: go straight back. And even that is a risk. Lee

82
00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:01,760
Speaker 3: gave me the tour.

83
00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:03,240
Speaker 1: You're in the weight room.

84
00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:08,679
Speaker 3: I saw everything. It was great.

85
00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:11,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was in danger, didn't even know it. And

86
00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:15,520
Speaker 1: here's what's crazy. Here's what's going to happen, because this

87
00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:18,680
Speaker 1: is what always happens, right, this is what happens. Y'all

88
00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:22,120
Speaker 1: get caught up. And the first thing Lee's gonna do,

89
00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:29,159
Speaker 1: it's say we're here with LeVar, buddy. The first thing

90
00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:31,240
Speaker 1: he's going to do, Hey, buddy, no, need to panic,

91
00:05:31,279 --> 00:05:33,840
Speaker 1: no need to worry. We're with LeVar, we do Fox

92
00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:37,400
Speaker 1: Sports Radio. We're here with him. That's the first thing,

93
00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:39,640
Speaker 1: y'all going to do Depth of Coaches and then you

94
00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:41,320
Speaker 1: know what's going to happen. You know what's going to

95
00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:47,880
Speaker 1: happen is they are going to find me where I'm

96
00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:52,279
Speaker 1: supposed to be. And mind you, had it happened after

97
00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:54,960
Speaker 1: I went over to the Stick City tailgate, oh god,

98
00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:58,080
Speaker 1: y'all would like it would have been no you you,

99
00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:01,159
Speaker 1: it just would have been over. Like I don't know

100
00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:03,080
Speaker 1: what they would have done with you being on air,

101
00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:04,919
Speaker 1: but you wasn't finishing that show.

102
00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:09,400
Speaker 3: I tell you, LeVar. LaVar leaves after his show. It's

103
00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:13,239
Speaker 3: fifty five, so my show starts in five minutes. LaVar

104
00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:17,640
Speaker 3: final words as he's quietly backing out of the room

105
00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:21,320
Speaker 3: where we're doing the shows from, he just said, hey, hey,

106
00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:26,800
Speaker 3: you don't leave here. You don't leave this this area

107
00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:31,120
Speaker 3: right here, this is where you can stay. And if

108
00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:34,880
Speaker 3: anybody asks, you don't know me, I don't know you.

109
00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:41,400
Speaker 3: I was like, oh my god, terrified. I thought James

110
00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:44,440
Speaker 3: Franklin was going to come in with a lasso and

111
00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:46,080
Speaker 3: like take us out by the hips.

112
00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:52,920
Speaker 1: It was Frank. That's the thing. I know exactly who

113
00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:55,080
Speaker 1: it is that will come in and get y'all. I

114
00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:57,880
Speaker 1: know I can see it. I saw it playing out him.

115
00:06:57,920 --> 00:07:01,279
Speaker 3: Oh my god, so fun met everyone the day before, so.

116
00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:08,720
Speaker 1: You didn't meet everybody, and it ain't like they're going

117
00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:10,680
Speaker 1: to be like, oh yeah, you're the guy. So on

118
00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:15,560
Speaker 1: the field with LeVar yesterday, brouh and you saw how

119
00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:20,600
Speaker 1: tight that practice was. You couldn't do nothing. Lee got

120
00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:26,400
Speaker 1: his camera out there, like buddy, Buddy, Buddy. And you know,

121
00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:29,040
Speaker 1: they they use real language around here. They don't play around.

122
00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:33,480
Speaker 1: They're like, what that for you doing? Buddy? Put it down? Please?

123
00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:36,320
Speaker 3: Like sorry, Buddy, We'll just try.

124
00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:40,320
Speaker 1: You know. I'm just over here with Jack Ham camming

125
00:07:40,320 --> 00:07:43,520
Speaker 1: it up.

126
00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:45,480
Speaker 3: A couple of still shots.

127
00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:48,840
Speaker 1: Buddy. I moved away from Lee. He was on his own.

128
00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:54,280
Speaker 1: He was by himself. Oh my god, Coachi, coach said,

129
00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:57,120
Speaker 1: can you please make sure I know exactly who it

130
00:07:57,280 --> 00:08:01,200
Speaker 1: is that you're bringing please?

131
00:08:06,760 --> 00:08:08,720
Speaker 3: Well, it is two pros and a cup of Joe

132
00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:12,040
Speaker 3: here on Fox Sports Radio, speaking of State College, speaking

133
00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:15,120
Speaker 3: of Penn State. Somebody who's in line to make Penn

134
00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:18,240
Speaker 3: State even more proud than they already are is one

135
00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:22,360
Speaker 3: Micah Parsons. Now there's been some discussions about, all right, well,

136
00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:24,160
Speaker 3: what is this contract going to get done? When's this

137
00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:29,520
Speaker 3: deal gonna get done? Miles Garrett spoke with Abby Jones

138
00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:36,200
Speaker 3: of DLLLS Sports and said the following about Micah Parsons quote,

139
00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:39,360
Speaker 3: I think he deserves whatever he's earned. I mean, the

140
00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:41,640
Speaker 3: guy is special. Once I got the chance to train

141
00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:43,600
Speaker 3: with him, I've seen his work ethic, I've seen how

142
00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:46,000
Speaker 3: he attacks the weights running. He is one hundred percent

143
00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:50,439
Speaker 3: committed to his craft and he's getting better every day.

144
00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:53,839
Speaker 3: He also went on to say he's someone who produces

145
00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:56,040
Speaker 3: on the field and has that dedication to the game.

146
00:08:56,120 --> 00:09:00,000
Speaker 3: He should get every penny he's owed now Micah Parson.

147
00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:03,400
Speaker 3: Since reportedly, we've got a little more detail on the

148
00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:06,520
Speaker 3: negotiations with the Dallas Cowboys, and these are always fun.

149
00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:12,920
Speaker 3: According to Clarence Hill, the negotiation started with Micah Parsons

150
00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:18,280
Speaker 3: and Jerry Jones. They had some sort of a soft

151
00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:22,320
Speaker 3: agreement on the terms, but Jerry Jones had never spoken

152
00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:25,920
Speaker 3: with Micah's agent, David Mullagetta, and that was back in

153
00:09:26,040 --> 00:09:31,160
Speaker 3: March and since then it's just kind of like whatever,

154
00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:33,480
Speaker 3: we just haven't really gotten the deal done yet, and

155
00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:37,760
Speaker 3: so Micah's kind of expressed a little bit of maybe confusion.

156
00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:40,320
Speaker 3: He said the following to Clarence Jones, it's gonna end

157
00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:43,320
Speaker 3: up costing him more, so on and so forth, and

158
00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:47,000
Speaker 3: he's absolutely right. But I would say this about Jerry Jones,

159
00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:49,720
Speaker 3: and I like to call this the fashionably late tax.

160
00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:53,559
Speaker 3: I don't think Jerry Jones mind's paying it. I really don't.

161
00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:57,199
Speaker 3: I think Jerry Jones is okay with the fact that, Yeah, listen, TJ.

162
00:09:57,280 --> 00:10:00,120
Speaker 3: Watt might get his deal done first, Trey Hendrickson might

163
00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:04,360
Speaker 3: get his deal done first. MICHAEH. Parsons, Listen, if it

164
00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:06,240
Speaker 3: cost us a little bit more on the back end

165
00:10:06,360 --> 00:10:08,120
Speaker 3: and we can stay in the news cycle and be

166
00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:10,040
Speaker 3: discussed a little bit more, then we're gonna stay in

167
00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:11,920
Speaker 3: the new cycle and be discussed a little bit more.

168
00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:14,320
Speaker 3: I don't think there's any question that the deal's gonna

169
00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:17,000
Speaker 3: get done this offseason. I just don't think Jerry Jones

170
00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:20,520
Speaker 3: cares at all about it taken longer and costing them more.

171
00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:22,400
Speaker 3: I don't think he cares. I really don't.

172
00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:26,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, I buy that. I buy that. At this point,

173
00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:31,120
Speaker 1: I think it's happened enough where that that feeling of

174
00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:35,080
Speaker 1: that sense of drama, will it get done? Like it

175
00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:40,920
Speaker 1: was at the most craziest of a feverish pitch with

176
00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:47,360
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott, and the unthinkable happened, Like he got it.

177
00:10:48,760 --> 00:10:52,640
Speaker 1: Damn he got it everybody. I mean, I'll say unthinkable.

178
00:10:52,760 --> 00:10:57,680
Speaker 1: Based off of the conversations that were being had before

179
00:10:58,040 --> 00:11:01,840
Speaker 1: he got his contract. People thought the number that he

180
00:11:02,040 --> 00:11:04,600
Speaker 1: was going for, what was it, like forty million at

181
00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:10,120
Speaker 1: that point, Yeah, I believe ye like forty million a year.

182
00:11:10,880 --> 00:11:14,040
Speaker 1: And people were like, yeah, it's not going to happen.

183
00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:17,560
Speaker 1: He's not going to get to where he wants to be.

184
00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:25,079
Speaker 1: And there were so many debates about where people fell

185
00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:28,720
Speaker 1: that everybody decided, you know, we live in a take

186
00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:33,200
Speaker 1: sides culture. Now you ever noticed that our culture is

187
00:11:33,280 --> 00:11:39,360
Speaker 1: so take sides driven, And in that instance, everybody that

188
00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:44,760
Speaker 1: was doing coverage on football, we're taking sides with Dak Prescott.

189
00:11:45,559 --> 00:11:48,400
Speaker 1: And you had the pro side, you had the conside,

190
00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:52,040
Speaker 1: and everybody had their arguments and their discussion points as

191
00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:55,880
Speaker 1: to why they felt that it would or wouldn't happen

192
00:11:56,440 --> 00:11:59,040
Speaker 1: the way that people may have put it out there,

193
00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:02,120
Speaker 1: the way that maybe you know, Dak may have you know,

194
00:12:02,160 --> 00:12:05,400
Speaker 1: alluded to whatever it may have been, there were reasons

195
00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:09,679
Speaker 1: why on both sides. You do not have those conversations

196
00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:14,040
Speaker 1: taking place now. They are not These are not headlines

197
00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:22,160
Speaker 1: that are dominating the sports world. It's actually barely being discussed. Yeah,

198
00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:25,800
Speaker 1: and knowing that that's how this is being handled, there

199
00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:30,680
Speaker 1: is no real media value to not getting the deal

200
00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:35,040
Speaker 1: done with Micah Parsons. It's been very non dramatic. It's

201
00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:39,120
Speaker 1: been very very low impact. There is no feverish pitch

202
00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:42,720
Speaker 1: about it. And I think that that's good that in

203
00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:47,079
Speaker 1: the end, that's a good thing because here's the reason why,

204
00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:51,840
Speaker 1: whether you're whether you're for it or you're against it,

205
00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:57,640
Speaker 1: it's being so intensely covered and the stakes are being

206
00:12:57,760 --> 00:13:01,400
Speaker 1: raised so high and high you saw it being handled

207
00:13:01,520 --> 00:13:07,360
Speaker 1: when Dak Prescott or when Zeke Elliott was doing his contract.

208
00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:11,880
Speaker 1: It builds this interest level, and it builds this narrative

209
00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:16,120
Speaker 1: that you got to figure out which side you fall

210
00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:20,680
Speaker 1: on or what side was correct in what took place.

211
00:13:21,400 --> 00:13:25,280
Speaker 1: And I don't know that it gives a guy the

212
00:13:25,440 --> 00:13:30,000
Speaker 1: fairest of opportunities to just be the player that they

213
00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:32,360
Speaker 1: need to be, because that's ultimately What it comes back

214
00:13:32,400 --> 00:13:34,880
Speaker 1: to is being the player that you need to be

215
00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:38,840
Speaker 1: for the team, and it becomes more about are they

216
00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:42,120
Speaker 1: living up to their contract, not are they being the

217
00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:45,200
Speaker 1: player they need to be. And for some strange reason,

218
00:13:45,520 --> 00:13:48,640
Speaker 1: I think people come up with by position what they

219
00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:52,080
Speaker 1: believe that value represents, and I don't know that it's

220
00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:55,440
Speaker 1: accurate or not. I just know that very few people

221
00:13:55,600 --> 00:14:00,560
Speaker 1: ever live up to the expectation of what is created

222
00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:07,840
Speaker 1: it appearance wise. For that player that waits and negotiates,

223
00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:12,079
Speaker 1: like even with Hendrickson, right, it just creates this narrative

224
00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:14,320
Speaker 1: where it's like, Oh, you were going to hold out

225
00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:17,240
Speaker 1: for this, You did all of that to get this contract,

226
00:14:17,320 --> 00:14:19,000
Speaker 1: and this is all you're going to Oh you go

227
00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:22,120
Speaker 1: get hurt. Oh you didn't get the same amount of

228
00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:24,280
Speaker 1: sacks that you did last year. What you ate? The

229
00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:29,800
Speaker 1: dude almost got twenty sacks. So to me, the fact

230
00:14:29,800 --> 00:14:34,640
Speaker 1: that Micah is doing his own podcast and when he

231
00:14:34,760 --> 00:14:38,280
Speaker 1: goes viral, it's generally something that he said or he's done,

232
00:14:38,680 --> 00:14:41,920
Speaker 1: and it's nothing you know that you would say. You know,

233
00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:45,720
Speaker 1: it makes you feel uncomfortable about him. You know he's

234
00:14:46,120 --> 00:14:48,800
Speaker 1: in you know, he's I don't know where he was

235
00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:51,680
Speaker 1: at but he was abroad. He was on the Wall,

236
00:14:51,960 --> 00:14:56,240
Speaker 1: the Great Wall. He was you know, sumo wrestling. He

237
00:14:56,240 --> 00:15:00,840
Speaker 1: he does his podcast, He talked about, you know, all

238
00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:04,560
Speaker 1: kinds of different topics. I think Michael Parsons has done

239
00:15:04,600 --> 00:15:07,680
Speaker 1: it the right way, regardless of what people may have

240
00:15:07,760 --> 00:15:10,720
Speaker 1: to say about He's rubbed people the wrong way inside

241
00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:15,040
Speaker 1: the building. Da da da. It's been quiet. It's been quiet.

242
00:15:15,240 --> 00:15:19,640
Speaker 1: You have not heard anyone saying disparaging things about him,

243
00:15:19,880 --> 00:15:22,040
Speaker 1: and I think that's a good thing. And you gotta

244
00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:25,200
Speaker 1: assume the deal is going to get done. I just

245
00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:30,120
Speaker 1: asked the question Jonas, how big is the deal? Is

246
00:15:30,160 --> 00:15:35,640
Speaker 1: it just below Miles Garrett? Is it right with Miles Garrett?

247
00:15:35,880 --> 00:15:39,840
Speaker 1: Is it above Miles Garrett? Those aren't only real questions

248
00:15:39,880 --> 00:15:43,760
Speaker 1: that to me are the major questions here in this topic.

249
00:15:43,880 --> 00:15:46,400
Speaker 3: I mean, I think he beats Miles Garrett. I think

250
00:15:46,440 --> 00:15:51,600
Speaker 3: that's I think whoever, And that's why maybe when you've

251
00:15:51,600 --> 00:15:55,520
Speaker 3: got three at the same position, maybe that's sort of

252
00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:57,880
Speaker 3: what the back and forth is. And one of the

253
00:15:57,880 --> 00:16:00,960
Speaker 3: things that was mentioned, and I think it Ian Rappaford

254
00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:04,440
Speaker 3: of NFL Network is that maybe part of the delay,

255
00:16:04,640 --> 00:16:07,640
Speaker 3: specifically with the t J Watt deal is the fact

256
00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:12,680
Speaker 3: that nobody knows for sure the exact numbers behind Miles

257
00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:15,640
Speaker 3: Garrett's deal, Like they know that the year per the

258
00:16:16,040 --> 00:16:18,800
Speaker 3: dollar amount per year, maybe some of the guarantees, but

259
00:16:18,840 --> 00:16:21,720
Speaker 3: they're not maybe totally sure how some of those guarantees

260
00:16:21,720 --> 00:16:23,520
Speaker 3: are split up and ration that it was it was

261
00:16:23,560 --> 00:16:26,440
Speaker 3: something along those lines, and so maybe that's the delay.

262
00:16:26,960 --> 00:16:30,840
Speaker 3: But like we talked about yesterday, you know, Brooke Pryor,

263
00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:33,600
Speaker 3: who covers the Steelers for ESPN, saying that, well, you

264
00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:36,040
Speaker 3: know the Steelers, you know, weren't they were kind of

265
00:16:36,040 --> 00:16:39,160
Speaker 3: surprised that TJ. Watt would want to reset the market. Well,

266
00:16:39,160 --> 00:16:41,320
Speaker 3: why would you be surprised. He's he's had a better

267
00:16:41,400 --> 00:16:44,160
Speaker 3: career than Miles Garrett. That shouldn't be a surprise.

268
00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:49,640
Speaker 1: Micah Parsons, No checkers and no, no, no, no checkered flag.

269
00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:53,880
Speaker 3: Yes, he's never he's never assaulted. He's never assaulted a

270
00:16:53,920 --> 00:16:55,000
Speaker 3: man with his own helmet.

271
00:16:55,360 --> 00:16:57,920
Speaker 1: That's happened. We didn't have to go that far. But

272
00:16:58,360 --> 00:17:01,800
Speaker 1: there there are no real which is at all, no

273
00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:06,119
Speaker 1: checkers flows on either one of those guys.

274
00:17:06,240 --> 00:17:08,639
Speaker 3: I think he drives safe, which which is you know,

275
00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:12,200
Speaker 3: which helps as well too. I just like the Michael

276
00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:15,720
Speaker 3: Parsons stuff. Yeah, Dak Prescott, I get the debate. I

277
00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:18,440
Speaker 3: can get the debate. I never thought that Dak Prescott

278
00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:21,080
Speaker 3: was going to play anywhere other than Dallas. They were

279
00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:22,520
Speaker 3: never going to let him out of the building. I

280
00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:25,640
Speaker 3: get the debate. Ceedee Lamb, I could kind of understand

281
00:17:25,680 --> 00:17:28,840
Speaker 3: the debate. Zeke Elliott I could kind of understand the debate.

282
00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:32,960
Speaker 3: There is no debate with Michaeh Parsons at all, whatsoever.

283
00:17:33,359 --> 00:17:37,280
Speaker 3: He should reset the market. He's in his prime, He's

284
00:17:37,320 --> 00:17:41,920
Speaker 3: produced every single year, and Jerry Jones does not care

285
00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:43,920
Speaker 3: about the fact that it may cost him a little

286
00:17:43,920 --> 00:17:47,320
Speaker 3: bit more. It's the fashionably late tax. I'm willing to

287
00:17:47,320 --> 00:17:49,440
Speaker 3: pay it because we're going to be in the story

288
00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:51,159
Speaker 3: and we're going to be the center of the story

289
00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:54,520
Speaker 3: throughout the course of training camp leading up to the season.

290
00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:57,120
Speaker 3: Whether it gets done right before the year or during

291
00:17:57,160 --> 00:18:01,320
Speaker 3: training camp, this deal is getting done. Man. There's no

292
00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:03,160
Speaker 3: nothing about TJ.

293
00:18:03,320 --> 00:18:03,760
Speaker 1: Watt.

294
00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:08,280
Speaker 3: I think I'll pose a question to you, do you

295
00:18:08,400 --> 00:18:14,520
Speaker 3: believe there's more of a chance that the TJ. Watt

296
00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:21,440
Speaker 3: negotiations go sideways or Micah Parsons negotiations go sideways because

297
00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:22,160
Speaker 3: I think it's TJ.

298
00:18:22,280 --> 00:18:27,720
Speaker 1: Watt I got. I have to say there's more pressure

299
00:18:28,160 --> 00:18:34,440
Speaker 1: on Pittsburgh in this scenario than Dallas because there is

300
00:18:34,520 --> 00:18:41,399
Speaker 1: no there's no reasoning to exercise as it applies to Dallas.

301
00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:47,080
Speaker 1: If you were to lose TJ. Watt based off of

302
00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:54,879
Speaker 1: not getting a contract done, I believe that has way

303
00:18:54,920 --> 00:19:01,480
Speaker 1: more impact than out of the two because I don't

304
00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:06,880
Speaker 1: see there being any circumstance any way that Dallas doesn't

305
00:19:06,920 --> 00:19:10,320
Speaker 1: do the deal with Michael Parsons. There are no real

306
00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:15,640
Speaker 1: MICA's not come out and made it a thing. Dallas

307
00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:19,320
Speaker 1: hasn't really come out and made it a thing. So

308
00:19:19,359 --> 00:19:22,119
Speaker 1: the fact that there hasn't been very much conversation about

309
00:19:22,119 --> 00:19:24,119
Speaker 1: it at all, I mean, there was that one moment

310
00:19:24,440 --> 00:19:28,960
Speaker 1: where could it get combustible where you talk about I

311
00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:31,280
Speaker 1: don't even know his agent. I haven't talked to his agent.

312
00:19:31,680 --> 00:19:34,280
Speaker 1: Maybe that was the moment that was the crossroad where

313
00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:36,439
Speaker 1: it could have happened and it could have gained momentum

314
00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:40,280
Speaker 1: to be a conversation, but it didn't happen. Now, but

315
00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:44,840
Speaker 1: there's so much going on in Pittsburgh right now. There's

316
00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:48,159
Speaker 1: so many question marks with Pittsburgh and the way the

317
00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:51,320
Speaker 1: quarterback situation has been. It's like Days of our Lives.

318
00:19:51,359 --> 00:19:54,600
Speaker 1: It's like you tune in for your stories, like, what

319
00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:58,240
Speaker 1: are you doing now? Dad's watching the stories? What's the stories?

320
00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:04,280
Speaker 1: Days of the Stealers Live? Like what it's going like?

321
00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:10,439
Speaker 1: The from from Fields to Wilson to now Rogers, George Pickens,

322
00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:16,360
Speaker 1: the Pickens Like it's just it's just been a constant

323
00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:21,040
Speaker 1: no no time for rest, no time for comfort or

324
00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:27,960
Speaker 1: feeling really good about what's going on. And it's tolerable

325
00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:32,399
Speaker 1: because the team still is good and the team still wins.

326
00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:36,040
Speaker 1: If you get rid of or if you lose out

327
00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:42,720
Speaker 1: on having one of these singular major elements assets, that

328
00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:45,080
Speaker 1: is the reason why you're still able to win in

329
00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:49,360
Speaker 1: spite of and TJ. Watt. The implications of that, I mean,

330
00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:53,040
Speaker 1: I think it's large enough to lose your job. I

331
00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:57,200
Speaker 1: think the implications of something going wrong with the TJ.

332
00:20:57,320 --> 00:21:01,159
Speaker 1: Watt situation and what could follow after after that in

333
00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:05,640
Speaker 1: terms of the season would be large enough for somebody

334
00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:06,440
Speaker 1: to lose their job.

335
00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:09,320
Speaker 3: It does, and that's why I pose the question because

336
00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:13,440
Speaker 3: I don't I don't think Mike will get his deal done.

337
00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:17,680
Speaker 3: No concerns there but I'm with you. It does feel

338
00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:20,720
Speaker 3: something feels a little off about the T. J. Watt

339
00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:23,760
Speaker 3: Steelers stuff. And maybe it's because it's the second time,

340
00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:25,680
Speaker 3: you know, he's he's looking to get paid.

341
00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:26,200
Speaker 1: Uh.

342
00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:30,320
Speaker 3: Ben Roethlisberger was on his podcast and you know said, listen,

343
00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:32,320
Speaker 3: last time he was looking to get a contract, he

344
00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:35,720
Speaker 3: held in. This time he's holding out, he goes. So

345
00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:39,240
Speaker 3: there's a clear difference in his approach towards wanting to

346
00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:41,200
Speaker 3: get a deal done. I think, you know, if I'm

347
00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:43,040
Speaker 3: a betting man, I bet that they do get a

348
00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:45,920
Speaker 3: deal done with TJ. Watt. But man, it wouldn't It

349
00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:49,119
Speaker 3: wouldn't surprise me if if Pittsburgh was like, look, this

350
00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:53,160
Speaker 3: is getting too steep for us. If we can get

351
00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:56,520
Speaker 3: back enough draft capital and go in another direction, maybe

352
00:21:56,560 --> 00:21:57,160
Speaker 3: we'll go there.

353
00:21:57,359 --> 00:21:58,840
Speaker 1: But this is going to a little bit pray. It

354
00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:08,200
Speaker 1: would be one of the biggest moves in Steeler history,

355
00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:13,400
Speaker 1: and it would most likely be one of the biggest

356
00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:20,280
Speaker 1: mistakes in Pittsburgh Steeler history. They gotta pay him. You

357
00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:25,640
Speaker 1: cannot afford to not pay the man what he has

358
00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:31,199
Speaker 1: established and earned as a Pittsburgh Steeler, which is the

359
00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:37,119
Speaker 1: right to be compensated fairly and kept on the team.

360
00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:42,040
Speaker 1: You do not have a replacement of the value that TJ.

361
00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:46,399
Speaker 1: Watt brings to your team as the position that he

362
00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:52,160
Speaker 1: plays or a personality that represents that team. You don't

363
00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:56,240
Speaker 1: have a replacement, So you do not you do not

364
00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:59,840
Speaker 1: allow for that to happen. You do not allow to

365
00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:03,440
Speaker 1: Watt to not be a part of the Pittsburgh Steelers.

366
00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:06,439
Speaker 1: So it shouldn't be a big deal. But if it

367
00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:09,320
Speaker 1: were to turn into a big deal, then now all

368
00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:13,600
Speaker 1: that does is make things even more weirder in terms

369
00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:17,160
Speaker 1: of how you're viewing. Where is this Pittsburgh team at

370
00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:21,840
Speaker 1: this Is that turning into something where that's this is

371
00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:26,000
Speaker 1: not the Pittsburgh way. It's not the Pittsburgh way. And

372
00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:30,439
Speaker 1: that's going to become a major conversation that ensues, and

373
00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:33,280
Speaker 1: how do you handle that. It's to be interesting.

374
00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:35,199
Speaker 3: It's two pros and a cup of Joe here on

375
00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:37,960
Speaker 3: Fox Sports Radio, LeVar Arrington, Jonas Knox with you coming

376
00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:42,240
Speaker 3: up next here though, speaking of paydays, somebody apparently said

377
00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:45,000
Speaker 3: the money's nice, but we like where we are in

378
00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:47,240
Speaker 3: the world of football. Find out who it is here

379
00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:47,880
Speaker 3: on FSR.

380
00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:50,960
Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and

381
00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:54,040
Speaker 2: a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Errington, and

382
00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:58,440
Speaker 2: Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern, three am Pacific

383
00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:02,480
Speaker 2: on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio.

384
00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:05,360
Speaker 3: App job on Two Pros and a Cup of Joe,

385
00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:08,560
Speaker 3: Fox Sports Radio, LaVar Arrington, Jonas Knox with you here.

386
00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:11,439
Speaker 3: Coming up a little over fifteen minutes from now, we

387
00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:13,960
Speaker 3: are going to have another edition of would you rather hear?

388
00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:16,760
Speaker 3: On the show? Hard hitting questions, Some would call them

389
00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:20,320
Speaker 3: weird questions, but we must answer them as we take

390
00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:23,800
Speaker 3: the stand here against Lee to Lap our executive producer again.

391
00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:26,200
Speaker 3: That'll be yours here about fifteen minutes from now here

392
00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:29,960
Speaker 3: on FSR, SO, we were talking about the TJ. Watt

393
00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:33,560
Speaker 3: Micah Parsons potential paydays whenever that they decide to get

394
00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:38,560
Speaker 3: that done, if they get it done. Leonora Sellers, who's

395
00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:42,440
Speaker 3: one of the more exciting quarterbacks in college football, plays

396
00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:45,920
Speaker 3: for the South Carolina game Cocks. Him and his father

397
00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:49,800
Speaker 3: did an interview recently with Bruce Feldman of Fox and

398
00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:56,280
Speaker 3: of The Athletic, and Seller's father said that Sellers turned

399
00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:59,720
Speaker 3: down he received a two year, eight million dollar nil

400
00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:02,480
Speaker 3: off from an unidentified school to try and tempt the

401
00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:07,600
Speaker 3: quarterback into transferring to from the game Cocks. And so

402
00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:09,960
Speaker 3: there's some speculator, well why didn't he make the move?

403
00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:13,360
Speaker 3: And Leonora Seller said the following, I've been playing football

404
00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:16,400
Speaker 3: all of my life for free. I've built relationships here,

405
00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:19,080
Speaker 3: my family's here, my brother's here. There's no reason for

406
00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:23,679
Speaker 3: me to go someplace else and start over. Do you

407
00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:27,560
Speaker 3: buy the number based on your knowledge of how the

408
00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:31,760
Speaker 3: recruiting process goes that schools are out there throwing around

409
00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:35,040
Speaker 3: two years eight million dollars for Leonora Sellers.

410
00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:39,840
Speaker 1: An, you know the thing about nil right now, Jonas,

411
00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:41,960
Speaker 1: is that no one knows.

412
00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:42,520
Speaker 3: What to believe.

413
00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:47,560
Speaker 1: No one knows. I don't care how much of an

414
00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:51,520
Speaker 1: expert people think they are or people they know. Unless

415
00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:57,840
Speaker 1: you are directly dealing with the person who is doing

416
00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:01,480
Speaker 1: this these deals and making this money, no one knows.

417
00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:04,680
Speaker 1: But what's going to happen is with this new judgment

418
00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:10,240
Speaker 1: coming you know, already happening, they're now going to have

419
00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:15,919
Speaker 1: to kind of itemize and show very clearly what it

420
00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:18,600
Speaker 1: is that they're doing to make the money that they're

421
00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:21,800
Speaker 1: being paid. And if they're not doing it, that's going

422
00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:25,720
Speaker 1: to be a voilation and whatever it may be. And

423
00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:29,840
Speaker 1: also I believe if I read some of the reports

424
00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:34,439
Speaker 1: you know, accurately, that there's a committee that's going to

425
00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:39,080
Speaker 1: decide if what the person is doing and what they're

426
00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:43,680
Speaker 1: getting paid even matches and have the right to approve

427
00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:48,479
Speaker 1: it or reject it. So as we're moving forward, I

428
00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:52,960
Speaker 1: think there's going to be more. I don't know if

429
00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:58,680
Speaker 1: the information that is being you know, circulated to the

430
00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:02,480
Speaker 1: body that's going to decide if you're if it's legitimate

431
00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:06,879
Speaker 1: that you're doing this and you're getting paid X to

432
00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:10,320
Speaker 1: do this. I don't know if those get you know,

433
00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:15,520
Speaker 1: may made public knowledge. But I do think where we're

434
00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:19,280
Speaker 1: at right now as it applies to that article right now,

435
00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:24,480
Speaker 1: I would not be surprised if that were the offer

436
00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:28,080
Speaker 1: on the table to get them. You gotta pay to

437
00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:30,960
Speaker 1: get kids today. You got to pay to get them.

438
00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:36,320
Speaker 1: And whether people are okay with it or not, that's

439
00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:41,119
Speaker 1: just where that's just where things are, and you got it.

440
00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:44,240
Speaker 1: You gotta pay to play man, And how much that

441
00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:45,000
Speaker 1: is I don't know.

442
00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:48,000
Speaker 3: I I just it's hard to know what to believe.

443
00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:50,880
Speaker 3: And I go back to my thought on this when

444
00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:54,879
Speaker 3: NIL started getting introduced and they started opening up the

445
00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:59,920
Speaker 3: floodgates on all this. It's almost as if they they

446
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:03,520
Speaker 3: didn't think long term about all the other things that

447
00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:06,359
Speaker 3: come attached to this, whether it's the fake agents that

448
00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:09,000
Speaker 3: are at the negotiating deals, whether it's you know, the

449
00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:12,320
Speaker 3: transfer portal, this that you know, like all of these

450
00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:15,520
Speaker 3: other things that came to taxes, all of these other

451
00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:18,520
Speaker 3: things they came along with it. They were just like, no, no,

452
00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:22,880
Speaker 3: athletes deserve to be paid players agreed, But there's there's

453
00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:25,480
Speaker 3: stuff that you need to consider when it comes to

454
00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:27,639
Speaker 3: doing that. It's not just a you know, a black

455
00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:29,959
Speaker 3: and white topic of hey, pay the athletes and then

456
00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:32,840
Speaker 3: we move on. No, there's all these other things that

457
00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:36,200
Speaker 3: have come up, and it's almost like they took care

458
00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:40,480
Speaker 3: of the initial which was the easy part, and now

459
00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:43,560
Speaker 3: they're having to like, yeah, but we've got to like

460
00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:45,640
Speaker 3: tighten the screws on this, and we've got to tighten

461
00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:47,400
Speaker 3: this up here, and we've got to make the move here.

462
00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:50,720
Speaker 3: And you've got and we've talked about this several times before.

463
00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:55,240
Speaker 3: You've got athletes who are you know, walking away to

464
00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:58,320
Speaker 3: go take another deal somewhere else after agreeing to a

465
00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:02,560
Speaker 3: deal with one school you've got, you know, certain schools,

466
00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:06,400
Speaker 3: you know, maybe promising one athlete this and another athlete.

467
00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:09,240
Speaker 3: Just like the whole thing is the wild West when

468
00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:11,440
Speaker 3: it comes to getting this stuff figured out. And so

469
00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:14,760
Speaker 3: when you hear Leonora Sellers and his dad talk about,

470
00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:17,360
Speaker 3: you know, reportedly there being a two year, eight million

471
00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:22,000
Speaker 3: dollar offer on the table, I mean probably, But haven't

472
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:26,520
Speaker 3: we heard stories about schools that haven't paid, that have

473
00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:29,520
Speaker 3: promised always that too, like that have promised money and

474
00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:32,320
Speaker 3: then haven't paid their portion of them. Like it's just

475
00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:33,960
Speaker 3: the whole thing's bizarre.

476
00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:38,720
Speaker 1: Man, you have to I guess the way I'm saying,

477
00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:41,440
Speaker 1: I guess well. I mean, I have a son in college.

478
00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:47,680
Speaker 1: You you're you. You sign a deal with your collective,

479
00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:50,120
Speaker 1: Like this is the way I understand. It could be

480
00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:53,200
Speaker 1: different at different schools. I'm not sure. But you sign

481
00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:56,000
Speaker 1: a deal with your collective, and within your collective it

482
00:29:56,120 --> 00:30:01,120
Speaker 1: has how much you will make as a stipend based

483
00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:06,680
Speaker 1: upon what it is that you're doing within the contract,

484
00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:11,280
Speaker 1: meaning you have x amount of appearances that you have

485
00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:15,080
Speaker 1: to make. So the collective says, okay, we're taking kids

486
00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:19,600
Speaker 1: to go do this like we just did the Carly

487
00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:26,360
Speaker 1: Short Foundation you know scholarship, you know deal for Brandon

488
00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:31,000
Speaker 1: Short and there were a few players there that counts

489
00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:36,720
Speaker 1: towards their appearances. Right, you're logging an appearance, meaning you're

490
00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:42,000
Speaker 1: justifying the contract that you've signed. You're satisfying the deliverables

491
00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:47,360
Speaker 1: in your contract. Now, say, for instance, you have that appearance,

492
00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:50,840
Speaker 1: you're scheduled to go make that appearance. They're able to

493
00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:54,440
Speaker 1: leverage your name coming to the appearance and you don't

494
00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:58,520
Speaker 1: show up, but you still get paid for the appearance

495
00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:03,680
Speaker 1: within your stipend. And but you haven't satisfied what your

496
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:07,080
Speaker 1: your are. You know what what what your deliverables are.

497
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:13,040
Speaker 1: They're in where to me, I believe the potential of

498
00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:16,840
Speaker 1: the problems are going to take place or may be

499
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:20,320
Speaker 1: taking place. Jonas. So while we're saying, okay, the kid

500
00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:23,320
Speaker 1: has eight million dollars on the table, what does he

501
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:25,680
Speaker 1: have to do for that eight million dollars, Because it's

502
00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:28,880
Speaker 1: just not it's not just playing football. It's going to

503
00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:31,480
Speaker 1: be other things that he's going to have to be

504
00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:35,880
Speaker 1: committed to doing in order to make that money. So

505
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:38,360
Speaker 1: what is that and is he going to do it?

506
00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:41,320
Speaker 1: You get there some of these people complaining that they're

507
00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:43,760
Speaker 1: not getting their money. Are you doing what what it

508
00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:47,160
Speaker 1: is you're being asked to do, because in some cases,

509
00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:51,080
Speaker 1: what I'm hearing is they're not. And so if you're

510
00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:55,160
Speaker 1: not and they can't justify why they're giving you this money,

511
00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:57,720
Speaker 1: some of it you're not going to get paid because

512
00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:02,320
Speaker 1: you haven't fulfilled. Like say, it's a major sponsor. It's

513
00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:05,280
Speaker 1: a major sponsor that's a part of a major event

514
00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:09,280
Speaker 1: for the university. Your name is on there, you are

515
00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:12,800
Speaker 1: a main attraction to doing it, and you don't do it.

516
00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:18,320
Speaker 1: That's a problem, right, And now it's like, all right, well,

517
00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:20,680
Speaker 1: we're not going to pay you for an appearance you

518
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:24,560
Speaker 1: didn't make. And now the sponsor has to deal with it,

519
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:28,040
Speaker 1: the university has to deal with it. You know, you

520
00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:31,560
Speaker 1: don't know if this turns into losing a sponsor over

521
00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:35,480
Speaker 1: not having the cooperation and the participation of the athlete

522
00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:39,000
Speaker 1: that was involved. There's just a lot to it, man,

523
00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:41,200
Speaker 1: there's a lot to it. But this is a new time,

524
00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:44,120
Speaker 1: it's a new place, and a lot of these things

525
00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:49,960
Speaker 1: are now having to be established marketplace, market value, you know,

526
00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:52,440
Speaker 1: all these different things are having to be you know,

527
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:55,160
Speaker 1: kind of defined for the first time.

528
00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:56,880
Speaker 3: I mean, can't we just go back to the good

529
00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:58,720
Speaker 3: old days where there was a duffle bag full of

530
00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:00,480
Speaker 3: cash on your door step.

531
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:04,600
Speaker 1: You know, now that we're here, when'd you say, a

532
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:07,640
Speaker 1: lot of people will be like dang. It was hard

533
00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:08,440
Speaker 1: and it was.

534
00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:11,320
Speaker 3: Stressful for men, it was easier.

535
00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:18,280
Speaker 1: Seems easier. I mean, would I.

536
00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:20,400
Speaker 3: Mean a duffle bag full of cash? You're not reporting

537
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:21,600
Speaker 3: that to pay taxes, are you?

538
00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:24,200
Speaker 1: No? Yeah?

539
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:26,520
Speaker 3: So I just felt like it was a lot easier, man.

540
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:28,880
Speaker 3: Blue Chips was really ahead of its time.

541
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:29,120
Speaker 1: Man.

542
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:32,040
Speaker 3: They tried to put everybody up on game on how

543
00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:33,080
Speaker 3: it should have been done.

544
00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:36,040
Speaker 1: It's unfortunate, man, they put that team together.

545
00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:38,360
Speaker 3: By the way, we were brought to you by O'Reilly.

546
00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:40,640
Speaker 3: O'Reilly Auto Parts can help take the guesswork out of

547
00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:45,680
Speaker 3: your vehicles. Check engine abs or maintenance light with O'Reilly verascan.

548
00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:49,640
Speaker 3: The services freeom provides a report with solutions verified by

549
00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:54,120
Speaker 3: AC certified master technicians. Ask for O'Reilly verascan today. Coming

550
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:55,960
Speaker 3: up next here though, on two pros and a Cup

551
00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:59,440
Speaker 3: of Joe, we are going to answer some hard hitting

552
00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:03,640
Speaker 3: questions that must be taken care of immediately, and they

553
00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:05,560
Speaker 3: are yours right here on FSR be.

554
00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:08,080
Speaker 2: Sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and a

555
00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:11,560
Speaker 2: Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Errington, and Jonas

556
00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:15,480
Speaker 2: Knox weekdays at six am Eastern, three am Pacific.

557
00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:19,279
Speaker 3: This or that Two Pros and a Cup of Joe

558
00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:22,960
Speaker 3: Fox Sports Radio, LaVar Arrington, Jonas Knox with you here

559
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:25,239
Speaker 3: coming up top of next hour a little over ten

560
00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:28,000
Speaker 3: minutes from now. A lot of people are trying to

561
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:31,600
Speaker 3: figure out why one move was made in the world

562
00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:34,480
Speaker 3: of sports. We'll get into those details and hear the

563
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:36,719
Speaker 3: answer from that head coach coming up here a little

564
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:39,560
Speaker 3: over ten minutes from now. Before we get to another

565
00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:42,399
Speaker 3: scintilating edition of would You Rather Hear? On the show?

566
00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:44,280
Speaker 3: A reminder that you can check out the Fox Sports

567
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:47,440
Speaker 3: Radio YouTube channel. Just search Fox Sports Radio on YouTube.

568
00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:49,440
Speaker 3: You'll see a whole bunch of video highlights from our shows.

569
00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:51,520
Speaker 3: Be sure to subscribe so you never miss our very

570
00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:55,400
Speaker 3: best Fox Sports Radio videos on YouTube.

571
00:34:55,520 --> 00:35:01,520
Speaker 1: Let's make hiss to and now would would you rather

572
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:05,560
Speaker 1: your random? Topics? Sports or otherwise? All right?

573
00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:07,440
Speaker 3: Lead to lab? What do we got, oh man? So

574
00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:08,439
Speaker 3: many to choose from?

575
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:08,759
Speaker 1: My kid?

576
00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:10,040
Speaker 3: Decide? How about this?

577
00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:12,520
Speaker 1: Oh God? Would you never?

578
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:16,000
Speaker 4: Would you rather never watch another football game again, or

579
00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:17,919
Speaker 4: have to watch every w NBA game.

580
00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:22,560
Speaker 1: What do you mean, watch every w n B A game?

581
00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:25,560
Speaker 4: You have to watch w NBA games every single night,

582
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:28,839
Speaker 4: or you have to never watch football again?

583
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:36,000
Speaker 1: Oh boy, I'd rather just not watch football. Geez, I'm sorry.

584
00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:37,000
Speaker 3: Okay, Now how.

585
00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:39,560
Speaker 1: Many I just wouldn't want to do it?

586
00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:42,960
Speaker 3: How many w NBA games are we talking?

587
00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:43,120
Speaker 1: Like?

588
00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:45,640
Speaker 3: At least one a night? At least one to night.

589
00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:49,920
Speaker 1: If it's just one, I guess do you have to

590
00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:53,000
Speaker 1: watch it from like that? Do they log your eyes? Like?

591
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:55,520
Speaker 1: Do you have to watch it from start to finish?

592
00:35:55,760 --> 00:36:01,320
Speaker 3: It's like an iPad? Or you watch Are you watching film?

593
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:03,000
Speaker 3: Because we're tracking you on the iPad?

594
00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:05,560
Speaker 4: Okay, if you keep it on all day long, you

595
00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:08,040
Speaker 4: could track it throughout the day as long as it's

596
00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:09,640
Speaker 4: on the TV and you put in a full game,

597
00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:10,359
Speaker 4: but you got out the day.

598
00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:12,920
Speaker 3: You gotta watch at least one game a day collective.

599
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:13,560
Speaker 3: That's fine.

600
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:15,680
Speaker 1: I'll take that because I can.

601
00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:17,399
Speaker 3: Also I can also bet on it.

602
00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:21,760
Speaker 1: You also have multiple TVs and multiple ways to watch,

603
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:25,000
Speaker 1: so yeah, that's fine. I could. I could. I could

604
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:27,600
Speaker 1: live with that, I volume long because I can casually

605
00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:29,399
Speaker 1: look at it when I want to and not look

606
00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:30,320
Speaker 1: at it or whatever.

607
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:34,640
Speaker 3: That'd be fine just in the background. Yeah, that'd be fine.

608
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:36,920
Speaker 1: To save your paintings that I don't look.

609
00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:40,560
Speaker 3: At, by the way, I got it. I got kids,

610
00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:41,440
Speaker 3: I don't look at.

611
00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:46,560
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Dig it? To save your job?

612
00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:49,080
Speaker 4: Would you rather have to tackle Derrick Henry or guard

613
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:51,640
Speaker 4: Shay Gildas Alexander one on one?

614
00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:55,640
Speaker 1: I would do both if I if I could, you

615
00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:57,680
Speaker 1: know what I mean, If I could, I do both

616
00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:00,640
Speaker 1: without even worrying about if I'd lose my job or

617
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:03,879
Speaker 1: keep my job. I would love to have the opportunity

618
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:07,120
Speaker 1: to hit Derrick Henry. That would be that would be wonderful.

619
00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:09,600
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I never met a man I

620
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:13,760
Speaker 1: couldn't take down and s g A. I would love

621
00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:17,360
Speaker 1: to guard him. I would love to guard him because

622
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:18,560
Speaker 1: I would hack the hell out of it.

623
00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:18,879
Speaker 2: Yeah.

624
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:21,120
Speaker 3: And and you know he's going to really sell the

625
00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:24,000
Speaker 3: foul to make you look dominant, because that's what he does.

626
00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:26,440
Speaker 1: He could sell the foul. I don't care. I'm going

627
00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:29,680
Speaker 1: to hack him bad. I'm going to get like four

628
00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:32,160
Speaker 1: out of well you get six fouls in the league. Yeah,

629
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:34,680
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get four out of the six fouls on

630
00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:36,640
Speaker 1: one plate on one play.

631
00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:46,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll go, I'll go as I'll go Sga as

632
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:48,600
Speaker 3: well too. I'm not. I don't want to tackle Derrick Henry.

633
00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:50,080
Speaker 1: I'm good.

634
00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:53,239
Speaker 3: I don't want to get turned into a Pez dispenser

635
00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:57,239
Speaker 3: because Derrick Henry's got a red ass about something some

636
00:37:57,360 --> 00:37:59,520
Speaker 3: take I had about the Titans years ago. I don't

637
00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:00,160
Speaker 3: want to deal that.

638
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:04,239
Speaker 1: I would love to hit him. I love to feel that.

639
00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:08,280
Speaker 1: I love to feel that big name players contact.

640
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:10,120
Speaker 4: Big name players. You might be on the move this offseason.

641
00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:16,319
Speaker 4: Would you rather get Jannie or KD? Est honest, I

642
00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:18,960
Speaker 4: love KD to death. It's not because I wouldn't want KD.

643
00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:22,759
Speaker 4: But I just feel like, you know, he's getting up there.

644
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:25,640
Speaker 4: It's like more is it?

645
00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:27,800
Speaker 1: Is it safe to say you feel like with a

646
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:31,600
Speaker 1: Yannis his better days may still be ahead of him,

647
00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:36,520
Speaker 1: while Kd's better days are what we say most certainly

648
00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:37,239
Speaker 1: behind him.

649
00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:46,440
Speaker 3: Like, yeah, but I don't know that Jannie is. I

650
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:50,319
Speaker 3: think he's past and he's still a great player, but his.

651
00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:51,759
Speaker 1: Best days are behind him too.

652
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:53,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think so, Dan.

653
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:56,960
Speaker 1: I don't think so, But I'm not gonna go with

654
00:38:56,960 --> 00:39:00,920
Speaker 1: that one and if so, I'm going to I'd be

655
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:06,919
Speaker 1: more I would be more willing to find out that

656
00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:10,560
Speaker 1: Giannie's better days are behind them rather than trying to

657
00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:14,399
Speaker 1: That's fair, know that that that Kd's probably are.

658
00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:17,880
Speaker 3: That's fair. What a weird career Katie's had, though, if

659
00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:19,520
Speaker 3: you think about it and talk about like an all

660
00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:22,640
Speaker 3: time great player who just I just want to rent.

661
00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:25,160
Speaker 3: I don't really want to one anywhere. I just want

662
00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:26,399
Speaker 3: to with.

663
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:30,880
Speaker 1: That, you know, So it depends on what your thoughts are.

664
00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:35,080
Speaker 4: Anyway, guys anymore inspired by the local news, would you

665
00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:37,320
Speaker 4: rather lose an eye or one of the family jewels?

666
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:42,279
Speaker 1: Oh, it's family jewels because you still can produce with

667
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:46,160
Speaker 1: that one that I've rather have both my eyes to

668
00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:47,840
Speaker 1: be able to see God.

669
00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:51,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, but only have a one eye would make watching

670
00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:52,239
Speaker 3: the WSL.

671
00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:54,440
Speaker 1: I got all my kids, I got, I got all

672
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:56,680
Speaker 1: the kids I want. You could tag both of them,

673
00:39:56,719 --> 00:39:57,320
Speaker 1: to be honest,