WEBVTT - EP 295: The BA Q and A: How to Advocate For Yourself 

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, Hey, BA fam, it's Mandra. We are back for

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<v Speaker 1>another week of Brown Ambition today, y'all. I avoided it

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<v Speaker 1>for so long. I am on my own today. It

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<v Speaker 1>is weird just talking to myself, but I'm just going

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<v Speaker 1>to pretend that all my BA fam is in the

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<v Speaker 1>room right now. I really want to get to some

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<v Speaker 1>of y'all's questions. So I am back today solo with

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<v Speaker 1>a ba q and a As always, we send our

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<v Speaker 1>love and our light and so many virtual hugs to

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<v Speaker 1>our girl Tiffany as she continues to heal. You know what,

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<v Speaker 1>why don't y'all go and send Tiffany a DM and

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<v Speaker 1>just let her know how incredible she is and how

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<v Speaker 1>much we love her, and let her know that the

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<v Speaker 1>BA fam is thinking about her always, especially if you

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<v Speaker 1>have anyone in your life life who is going through

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<v Speaker 1>a tough time. You know, even though we are moving

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<v Speaker 1>on and it feels like a lot of time has passed,

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<v Speaker 1>you never know what kind of journey they are on

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<v Speaker 1>through their healing. And I think it's sometimes a little

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<v Speaker 1>awkward and uncomfortable to reach out, but I think if anything,

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<v Speaker 1>it can never hurt just to send a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>of support in a positive note. I do that all

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<v Speaker 1>the time, so it would be great if BA fan

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<v Speaker 1>would just centive a little bit of love. But I

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<v Speaker 1>am here. I am here. I am still rocking with y'all.

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<v Speaker 1>What's going on outside of Brown Ambition for Mandy these days, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>my career, coaching and my business have been just I

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<v Speaker 1>don't even know how to describe it, y'all. I started

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<v Speaker 1>this journey last June not really sure of what the

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<v Speaker 1>next year or multiple years after would look like. But

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<v Speaker 1>I just had a lot of faith in myself and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so glad that I took that risk. Since I

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<v Speaker 1>launched Mandy my last summer, I have coached close to

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<v Speaker 1>two hundred women across the country and across the world.

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<v Speaker 1>I've had clients in Kenya and Germany and the UK

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<v Speaker 1>and Canada, and it's been such a wonderful privilege to

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<v Speaker 1>get to talk to so many incredible people and help

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<v Speaker 1>them as they're navigating their career crossroads, and it's been

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<v Speaker 1>a joy. I'm also now y'all can catch me on

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<v Speaker 1>Yahoo Finance, where I am there bi weekly every other week,

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<v Speaker 1>chatting with the lovely host there in the afternoon Wednesdays

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<v Speaker 1>at one between one and two, and I'm covering all

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<v Speaker 1>things career and wealth building. I've been featured in publications

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<v Speaker 1>that I cannot even wrap my head around, like The Economist,

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<v Speaker 1>The New York Times, CNBC. It has been you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I think my journey especially is just proof of when

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<v Speaker 1>it comes to navigating your career, it really isn't a

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<v Speaker 1>linear path. You just have to make the best choices

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<v Speaker 1>with the information that you have at the time, don't

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<v Speaker 1>be afraid to take risks, and just keep putting one

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<v Speaker 1>foot in front of the other and just trust in

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<v Speaker 1>the journey, trust that you may not end up or

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<v Speaker 1>you may not even know where you're going to end up,

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<v Speaker 1>but that you're going to end up somewhere phenomenal, and

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<v Speaker 1>just having a lot of trust in myself and knowing that,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, there's no such thing as job security. Really,

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<v Speaker 1>I think our job security is ourselves. It is our talent,

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<v Speaker 1>It is our ability to bounce back from whatever challenges

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<v Speaker 1>we encounter. And if there's one thing that I've learned

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<v Speaker 1>over the past I don't know ten to fifteen years

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<v Speaker 1>of my career, is that I'm always going to rise

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<v Speaker 1>to the top. I'm always going to float. You know what,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean land on my feet. And it's that faith

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<v Speaker 1>and trust in myself that has really allowed me to

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<v Speaker 1>step out in this way. And I just thank y'all

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<v Speaker 1>for all of the support and a special shout out

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<v Speaker 1>to the Mandy Moneymakers, which is my special group coaching

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<v Speaker 1>cohort that I just launched in January. Oh my goodness,

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<v Speaker 1>this group of women. I can't even tell you how

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<v Speaker 1>credible it's been to get to know them and to

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<v Speaker 1>create create this small, intimate, beautiful community of women helping women,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's just a beautiful thing. If you guys want

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<v Speaker 1>but now let's get into your questions. Continue to send

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<v Speaker 1>a question there. That's brandambispodcast dot com already, so let's

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<v Speaker 1>do it. So our first question comes from listener Paula.

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<v Speaker 1>Paula is going through something that Peloton workers right now

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<v Speaker 1>are all experiencing. Did you guys hear the news about

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<v Speaker 1>Peloton laying off twenty eight hundred workers in one fel SWA. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>this is a really good example of the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>no job is secure, even if you are the latest

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<v Speaker 1>unicorn company. You know, Peloton had a phenomenal, phenomenal year

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<v Speaker 1>in the wake of the pandemic. I mean, and I

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<v Speaker 1>was one of those people who purchased a Peloton and

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<v Speaker 1>then also was like, WELLO I need to get them

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<v Speaker 1>the stock. You know, this is a good example of

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<v Speaker 1>why maybe you shouldn't buy individual stocks, or at least

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<v Speaker 1>not by individual stocks expecting an immediate return, because like

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of folks, you know, I purchased some Peloton

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<v Speaker 1>shares and if y'all have been watching, their stock has

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<v Speaker 1>been just, oh my god, getting annihilated lately. So just

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<v Speaker 1>a little you know, personal finance lesson here. When it

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<v Speaker 1>comes to investing in personal stocks, I do it based

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<v Speaker 1>on products that I love and companies that I believe in,

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<v Speaker 1>and I am a long term buy and whole kind

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<v Speaker 1>of gal. So even though in my opinion, Peloton if

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<v Speaker 1>not in my opinion, it's just happening, even though they've

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<v Speaker 1>been struggling lately. I'm not necessarily going to just dump

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<v Speaker 1>stocks of a company that I still believe in. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>in it for the long haul. And it really depends

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<v Speaker 1>on your investing strategy and how much of your how

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<v Speaker 1>much risk you think you can assume. I am definitely

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<v Speaker 1>not using the majority of my you know, my money

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<v Speaker 1>for retirement for individual stock trading. It's just not what

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<v Speaker 1>I do. I use a little bit of money on

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<v Speaker 1>the side, and I mostly invested, yeah, a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>individual stocks, but also my favorite etf SO exchange traded funds.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm kind of going on a tangent right now. I

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<v Speaker 1>will get back to Paul's question, but I just wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to first talk about Peloton and the fact that they

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<v Speaker 1>despite the crazy successful year that it seemed like they

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<v Speaker 1>were having in the wake of the pandemic, Hey, what

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<v Speaker 1>goes up will eventually come down, right, And they had

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<v Speaker 1>this massive reorg. They're laying off twenty eight hundred people.

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<v Speaker 1>Their CEO is out, and those you know workers are

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<v Speaker 1>going to be scrambling to find new employment, just like

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<v Speaker 1>our lovely listener Paula, who said, here's her question. My

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<v Speaker 1>organization just announced a reorg that will directly affect me.

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<v Speaker 1>What advice would you give me to make sure that

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<v Speaker 1>this change will benefit my career and myself financially? Thanks

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<v Speaker 1>in advance, Paula. So, a reorg, this happens a lot

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<v Speaker 1>at companies, whether it's through for example, they get acquired

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<v Speaker 1>by another company and you've got two companies trying to

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<v Speaker 1>marry one another, and they've got to like figure out, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>we have one hundred customer service reps over here. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>but we've got two hundred over here. Do we need

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<v Speaker 1>three hundred or should we consolidate? And you know, there's

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<v Speaker 1>the negative part of that, which is that often it

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<v Speaker 1>means that some jobs are going to be phased out.

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<v Speaker 1>But sometimes reorgs can be a lot simpler than that.

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<v Speaker 1>They can simply be Well, maybe it sounds like Paula

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<v Speaker 1>is going through where her company is deciding, Okay, the

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<v Speaker 1>current org structure, like who we have reporting to who,

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<v Speaker 1>and the different departments that we have aren't maybe working

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<v Speaker 1>for us right now? We need to shake things up.

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<v Speaker 1>Doesn't always mean that it's going to result in layoffs,

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<v Speaker 1>but it could result in title changes or like the

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<v Speaker 1>people that you're reporting to will be different, or even

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<v Speaker 1>people that are reporting to you may change, and it

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<v Speaker 1>can be a little stressful, especially if change is not

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<v Speaker 1>something that you're really excited about, but it is like

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<v Speaker 1>if you work somewhere long enough, chances are you will

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<v Speaker 1>go through something like a reorg. So Paula wants to know,

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<v Speaker 1>how do I make sure this actually benefits me career

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<v Speaker 1>wise and financially. So first and foremost, Paula, I think

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<v Speaker 1>having communication and communicating a lot with your managers is

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<v Speaker 1>going to be important here. Often though, when it comes

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<v Speaker 1>to reorgs, it depends on what level you're at at

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<v Speaker 1>your company. But your managers may not even have all

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<v Speaker 1>of the information, So have some patience for them and

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<v Speaker 1>listen really closely to what senior leadership is saying. Submit

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<v Speaker 1>questions if they're doing any town halls, and just be

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<v Speaker 1>the person who ask questions. You know, it be the

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<v Speaker 1>squeaky wheel, ask for specifics, you know, what will this mean?

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<v Speaker 1>Will there be potential for promotion? Will there'd be potential

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<v Speaker 1>for you know, people who are looking maybe you're looking

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<v Speaker 1>to pivot into a different department, and as the reorg

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<v Speaker 1>starts to take shape, as you start to understand what's

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<v Speaker 1>going to happen with your particular department, I would be

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<v Speaker 1>completely transparent with your managers, your higher ups, and tell

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<v Speaker 1>them where you see yourself best fitting into this new organization,

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<v Speaker 1>and be really cognizant of any opportunities that may crop

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<v Speaker 1>up for you. For example, you know, if you're I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, you're a mid level right now, and you

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<v Speaker 1>see that in this new org they're creating more of

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<v Speaker 1>a senior manager position where you're seeing an opportunity where

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<v Speaker 1>they've got a hole that they need to fill and

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<v Speaker 1>you think you could fit in there. You know, I

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't wait for your manager to tap you on the

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<v Speaker 1>shoulder and say, oh, Paula, yes, this is a perfect

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<v Speaker 1>role for you. We want to move you up and

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<v Speaker 1>over here. I would definitely advocate for yourself and keep

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<v Speaker 1>your eyes and ears open for those types of opportunities

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<v Speaker 1>and put your name the hat, make sure that they

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<v Speaker 1>know that you're interested, and remember times of volatility at companies.

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<v Speaker 1>This is really if you're someone who wants to stick

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<v Speaker 1>around at that company. This is where you can really

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<v Speaker 1>shine and make your personal brand, your professional brand even stronger,

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<v Speaker 1>because when there are times of like quote unquote crisis

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<v Speaker 1>or volatile times at a company, those employees who step

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<v Speaker 1>up and prove that they are going to roll with

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<v Speaker 1>the punches, that they're going to be reliable, that their

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<v Speaker 1>managers can count on them through those times of volatility,

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<v Speaker 1>those are the people who are going to get promoted.

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<v Speaker 1>Those are the people that you know, the managers are

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<v Speaker 1>going to want to see advance and progress and get

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<v Speaker 1>those year end bonuses. So I would definitely use this

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<v Speaker 1>as an opportunity. It reminds me of what happened for

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<v Speaker 1>me when I was managing a team of thirty staff

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<v Speaker 1>editors and writers at my company with the onset of

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<v Speaker 1>the pandemic, when I had to and I had a

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<v Speaker 1>newborn at home right those colleagues on my team and honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>everybody stepped up. But I've never been more proud. And

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<v Speaker 1>there were so many, you know, people on my team

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<v Speaker 1>through the year who were able to step up and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, get promotions because they really went to work

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<v Speaker 1>during that time and they made it possible for me

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<v Speaker 1>to run that team and transition everyone virtually. So I

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<v Speaker 1>like that you're seeing this as an opportunity to be strategic.

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<v Speaker 1>I think ultimately the best things you can do are

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<v Speaker 1>advocate for yourself, look for opportunities and say you want them.

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<v Speaker 1>But then also just be completely bad ass and become

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<v Speaker 1>the person that your managers can go to during times

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<v Speaker 1>like this when things are a little dicey, and rely

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<v Speaker 1>on them and step up and show that you are

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<v Speaker 1>a team player and all of that, because that, like

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<v Speaker 1>I said, is going to make them go the extra

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<v Speaker 1>mile for you down the line. Thank you so much

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<v Speaker 1>for your question, Paula, and good look. All right, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to take a quick breaking break, get some water

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<v Speaker 1>because it is kind of you know, it's hard work

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<v Speaker 1>talking about myself talking to myself all the time. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>and we will be right back with more of your questions.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, ba faan, we are back. Our next question

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<v Speaker 1>comes from an anonymous IG fan. Again, we're at Brandna

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<v Speaker 1>Mission podcast on IG, so follow us. You can dem

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<v Speaker 1>us your questions there. Okay, So this person says, Hey, Mandy,

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<v Speaker 1>I just saw your TikTok about that Mercedes recruiter. I

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<v Speaker 1>have a question and I hope it's not too forward

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<v Speaker 1>or bold of me to ask I want to renegotiate

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<v Speaker 1>my pay. I feel like I'm underpaid as the only

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<v Speaker 1>billing specialist doing work for two emergency rooms. Any advice

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<v Speaker 1>on how I can go about that? Okay? So if

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<v Speaker 1>you guys haven't seen this yet, you've got to check out.

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<v Speaker 1>You can go to my ig. I'm at Mandy Money

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<v Speaker 1>on Insta and I'm at Mandy Money with three a's

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<v Speaker 1>on TikTok. And basically what happened was there was this recruiter.

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<v Speaker 1>Her name is Mercedes S. Johnson. I'll never forget her

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<v Speaker 1>name now. So she posted on LinkedIn a screenshot or

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<v Speaker 1>she posted on LinkedIn, and she was bragging about having

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<v Speaker 1>a job candidate except an offer for eighty five K.

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<v Speaker 1>And she decided to take time out of her day

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<v Speaker 1>to go on LinkedIn and make fun of this person

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<v Speaker 1>and say, you know, the budget was actually one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and thirty five K. And I don't have time to

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<v Speaker 1>help people learn how to negotiate. I just want you

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<v Speaker 1>guys to know it's really important to know your value.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think I, like a lot of people, had

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<v Speaker 1>a visceral reaction to that post from Mercedes, because one

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<v Speaker 1>it was just dumb. Two it was not helpful at all.

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<v Speaker 1>I think she thought she was really doing something profound

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<v Speaker 1>with that post, trying to inspire people to know their

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<v Speaker 1>value and to negotiate. But I just don't see how

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<v Speaker 1>she can say she didn't have time to give advice

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<v Speaker 1>to that job candidate, but yet she did have time

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<v Speaker 1>to go on the internet and post about it. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I just thought it was really especially for someone in

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<v Speaker 1>her position as a recruiter. You know, she's in a

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<v Speaker 1>place of power. And also you know she in her

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<v Speaker 1>public persona talks about herself being someone who helps people

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<v Speaker 1>negotiate and you know, fulfill their career ambitions. And I

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<v Speaker 1>just think it was Oh no, no, it was. It

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<v Speaker 1>was a bad look for miss Mercedes. But to this

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<v Speaker 1>questions point, it was a good reminder, and we'll just

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<v Speaker 1>try to find a silver lining here. It was a

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<v Speaker 1>good reminder of why it is so important for us

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<v Speaker 1>as job candidates. Advocating for ourselves in the workplace is

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<v Speaker 1>so important because even the people who think maybe there

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<v Speaker 1>to help you get what you deserve, ultimately we are

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<v Speaker 1>always going to have our best interest and we should

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<v Speaker 1>have our best interest at heart all of the time,

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<v Speaker 1>and we have to learn to step up for ourselves

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<v Speaker 1>and to do our own research to find out when

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<v Speaker 1>we are not being valued the way that we should

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<v Speaker 1>be valued. So in your situation, Anonymous, where you say

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<v Speaker 1>you actually want to renegotiate your pay, you feel like

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<v Speaker 1>you're being underpaid. It sounds like you're working in the

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<v Speaker 1>medical field, and honestly, listen, I've got family who work

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<v Speaker 1>in hospitals and it is grueling work and there is

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<v Speaker 1>so much turnover as a result of the pandemic that

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<v Speaker 1>there are people like you who are being left doing

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<v Speaker 1>more work than ever but not actually getting paid anything

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<v Speaker 1>to so renegotiating pay. Listen, I am the person who

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<v Speaker 1>will who will always push people to just ask the questions,

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<v Speaker 1>no matter how you know bold they may seem, ask

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<v Speaker 1>the question, you know, go to your manager and just say,

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<v Speaker 1>point blank, you know, I've I have been taking on

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<v Speaker 1>all this additional work. Is there any opportunity to discuss

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<v Speaker 1>my compensation and to get an increase. You can absolutely

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<v Speaker 1>do that. You don't have to wait for your annual

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<v Speaker 1>review cycle. Just go ahead and do it. I can't

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<v Speaker 1>promise you they're going to do something about it. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not even gonna I don't even know what the odds

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<v Speaker 1>are that they may do something about it. Your best

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<v Speaker 1>bet is to get a competing offer from another job

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<v Speaker 1>that's actually going to pay you more, and then you

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<v Speaker 1>can actually bring that to your current employer and say,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I've got an offer from XYZ and they're

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<v Speaker 1>offering me double what you're paying me, or fifty percent more,

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<v Speaker 1>whatever it is. You have to be ready, you should

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<v Speaker 1>be ready prepared to take that new offer and walk.

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<v Speaker 1>But that can be some that can be really good leverage,

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<v Speaker 1>especially if you're you know, you want to stay, but

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<v Speaker 1>you just want to be paid what you're worth. Sometimes companies,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, if you don't give them a reason, like

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<v Speaker 1>a really good reason to give you a pay raise,

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<v Speaker 1>they can like drag their feet. They just don't have

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<v Speaker 1>that incentive, you know, So the risk of you walking down,

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<v Speaker 1>like walking away from the job and leaving them in

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<v Speaker 1>the lurch. Sometimes you just got to like play hardball

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<v Speaker 1>in that way. You got to say, like, yo, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>ready to walk, I've got this juicy offer, what are

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<v Speaker 1>you going to do about it? And then you can

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<v Speaker 1>see how fast they move to get you that raise. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so that's my advice to you. You can ask the question,

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<v Speaker 1>and I would go ahead and ask that now, just

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<v Speaker 1>to establish the fact that they know, Okay, she's asked

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<v Speaker 1>for this, she's feeling overworked, and then they can actually

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<v Speaker 1>then you give them some time to figure out what

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<v Speaker 1>they're going to do, and then on your own going

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<v Speaker 1>out and you know, leveraging your network, telling everyone that

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<v Speaker 1>you're looking for a new opportunity, seeing what else is

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<v Speaker 1>out there, getting some interviews, you know, and find and

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<v Speaker 1>potentially even getting a different offer. Then you can bring

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<v Speaker 1>that additional lever to them and use that for your

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<v Speaker 1>negotiation process. All right, thank you very much for that question. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>two juicy career ones. Let's go to a more personal

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<v Speaker 1>finance question. This is third and last question we're gonna take.

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<v Speaker 1>This comes from also from IG. We're gonna call her Cheryl.

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<v Speaker 1>Cheryl says, I'm single, no kids. I make one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and thirty five thousand dollars a year. I've got about

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<v Speaker 1>sixty K and my four oh one K and about

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<v Speaker 1>ten K saved up for emergencies. But I have sixteen

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<v Speaker 1>thousand dollars left to pay on my car loan I'm

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<v Speaker 1>thinking about taking out that amount as a four to

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<v Speaker 1>one K loan to pay off the car. Do you

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<v Speaker 1>think that's a good idea. I'm also looking to purchase

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<v Speaker 1>a townhouse in the future. The bank has preapproved me

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<v Speaker 1>for four hundred and ninety five K as of now.

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<v Speaker 1>Would that four oh one K loan hurt my approval

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<v Speaker 1>status in the future? Oh, okay, couple things. So you've

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<v Speaker 1>got sixty K and your four to one K, you've

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<v Speaker 1>got ten K saved for emergencies. That's amazing, sixteen K

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<v Speaker 1>left on your car loan. So car loan. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>have a crucial piece of information right here, which is

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<v Speaker 1>your interest rate on your car loan. But let's say

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<v Speaker 1>you've got you know, good, really good credit, and your

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<v Speaker 1>car loan rate is like what what's typical now, like

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<v Speaker 1>three to four percent? You're thinking about taking out sixteen

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<v Speaker 1>K from your four one K, sixteen K out of

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<v Speaker 1>a sixty K four one K. You know, that's a

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<v Speaker 1>pretty hefty chunk of change. It's a four to one

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<v Speaker 1>K loan, as you're saying, And so with four one

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<v Speaker 1>K loans, and just to be candid, I have taken

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<v Speaker 1>a loan out of my four to one K I

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<v Speaker 1>took out I think it was ten K out of

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<v Speaker 1>my four to one K three or four years ago

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<v Speaker 1>when we were doing something to the house and just

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<v Speaker 1>wanted a way to borrow money that wasn't going to

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<v Speaker 1>cost interest. The beauty of the four to one k

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<v Speaker 1>loan is you are borrowing from yourself and you're going

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<v Speaker 1>to pay yourself back. And if they charge quote unquote

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<v Speaker 1>interest on that four one K loan, you're going to

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<v Speaker 1>pay yourself that interest right And then because it's through

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<v Speaker 1>your employer for one K, they will basically set up

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<v Speaker 1>pay check deductions as you for you to pay that back,

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<v Speaker 1>so you don't have to remember to pay a bill

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<v Speaker 1>on time or anything like that. The risk with the

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<v Speaker 1>four one k loan is that, let's say you were

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<v Speaker 1>to want to leave the company, or heaven forbid, you

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<v Speaker 1>were laid off or fired, you may owe the full

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<v Speaker 1>balance of that loan back really quickly, like in less

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<v Speaker 1>than a couple of months. So you have to weigh

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<v Speaker 1>that risk. The fact that you only have ten K

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<v Speaker 1>saved well, I don't mean to diminish the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>you've got ten k saved up. That's fantastic. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>that's about ten percent of your annual income, so it's

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<v Speaker 1>not shabby at all, but it's ten K and you'd

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<v Speaker 1>be taking out a sixteen K loan from your four

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<v Speaker 1>one k. So you know, let's say something happens and

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<v Speaker 1>you are let go or you leave the company. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>how would you be able to repay one lump sum

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<v Speaker 1>for a loan out of your four one k That

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<v Speaker 1>could potentially be about sixteen K, So you have to

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<v Speaker 1>think about that. Typically, like, let's say your car loan is,

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<v Speaker 1>like I said, you've got a really good interest rate.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not mad at you just continuing to pay that

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<v Speaker 1>that car note off. It may feel really good to

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<v Speaker 1>be entirely debt free, and like, I love to be

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<v Speaker 1>debt free too. I paid my car loan off early.

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<v Speaker 1>But what are your other goals right now? You say

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<v Speaker 1>you're saving up for a townhouse, so I would actually

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<v Speaker 1>prefer if you were to continue beefing up your emergency fund.

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<v Speaker 1>Ten K is pretty good for emergencies, but as a homeowner,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you may actually have some household emergencies that

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<v Speaker 1>cost even more than that, or you may want to

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<v Speaker 1>do some work to the house, like moving expenses, are

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<v Speaker 1>like crazy when it comes to moving into a house.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, those first year of home ownership expenses can

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<v Speaker 1>really add up. So I would say, instead of taking

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<v Speaker 1>money out of your four one K loan to pay

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<v Speaker 1>off your car note, especially like I don't know your

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<v Speaker 1>interest rates, so this is just, you know, an idea,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm assuming it's great. Instead of taking money out

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<v Speaker 1>of your four one K to pay off that car note,

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<v Speaker 1>I would just save up even more in that liquid cash,

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<v Speaker 1>saving these accounts that you're using now for emergencies and

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<v Speaker 1>just call it your your home emergency fund or your

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<v Speaker 1>home fund. It also prepares you. I don't know how

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<v Speaker 1>much you're looking to put down on your home in

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<v Speaker 1>the future, but having extra cash in the bank that

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<v Speaker 1>you can use as a down payment is never a

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<v Speaker 1>bad thing. So that is That's my story, and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sticking to it for now. Your second question is the

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<v Speaker 1>bank has preapproved you for a loan, but you're wondering

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<v Speaker 1>would that four one K loan hurt your approval status

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<v Speaker 1>in the future. So I did a little bit of

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<v Speaker 1>research into this because I hadn't really thought about that

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<v Speaker 1>question before until you asked it, And all my research

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<v Speaker 1>shows that No, Typically banks do not use a four

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<v Speaker 1>to one K loan as part of the underwriting process

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<v Speaker 1>to determine like whether you're going to go approved or not.

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<v Speaker 1>So typically it would not hurt your odds of getting

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<v Speaker 1>approved for a loan, which could be comforting to you.

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<v Speaker 1>But still, because you're about to buy a house and

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<v Speaker 1>because you've only got that ten k saved, I would

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<v Speaker 1>definitely it, especially if you're like, you know, really sure

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<v Speaker 1>about buying this house and you want to do that

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<v Speaker 1>sooner rather than later. You know, get the house, pad

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<v Speaker 1>up that cash emergency fund because you never know but

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<v Speaker 1>probably don't need it based on my experience, and then

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<v Speaker 1>you know, put that, you know, and then once you

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<v Speaker 1>kind of feel settled in your new home and all

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<v Speaker 1>of that, then you can start making larger payments towards

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<v Speaker 1>your car loan and pay that down over time. So

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<v Speaker 1>that is my advice. I hope that was helpful. Again,

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<v Speaker 1>I am not a financial planner. I'm not your financial planner.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not an investment advisor. Everything I'm saying is just

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<v Speaker 1>for educational purposes and because you guys ask and I

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<v Speaker 1>want to, you know, give you guys my opinion. But again,

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<v Speaker 1>for like super personal advice for your unique situation. It's

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<v Speaker 1>always good to reach out to an individual personal financial

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<v Speaker 1>advisor or planner to get that kind of personalized advice.

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<v Speaker 1>We like to reshare those it's always fun to see,

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