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Speaker 2: Brian no Hier, NFL veteran, Jeff Schwartz at sports handicapper

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Speaker 2: from crackwins dot com Bill crack Krackenberger.

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Speaker 4: Oh, what's going on? Everybody? Ball is back? It is

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Speaker 4: beautiful to discuss it these fine gentlemen over here named

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Speaker 4: Jeff Schwartz and Bill Krackenberger. I'll tell you what, man,

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Speaker 4: Notre dame in USC. We're in action yesterday and that's

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Speaker 4: it for the big names in week zero. And I

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Speaker 4: think there's good news and bad news with USC. Their

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Speaker 4: offense picked up where they left off last season. Caleb

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Speaker 4: Williams is fantastic, but their defense, Jeff picked up were

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Speaker 4: at left off last season as well.

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Speaker 3: So this is the fun part about previewing the season,

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Speaker 3: right guys, Hello, good morning Crack and Brian. Brian's happy

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Speaker 3: as Irish did a little Irish.

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Speaker 4: Jok yesterday Ireland.

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Speaker 3: My first thought, by the way, but after the USC

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Speaker 3: game was like, no Dame was gonna steamroll them. In

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Speaker 3: Week seven in South Bend, the Irish offensive line looked great.

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Speaker 3: I throw that props up. Okay. Nonetheless, we do this

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Speaker 3: thing when we preview the season right where I understand

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Speaker 3: we want to find a new angle for every team,

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Speaker 3: right like we want to find something cool and exciting,

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Speaker 3: and like, this is the take I have, And when

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Speaker 3: what I do a lot of time to say, you

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Speaker 3: know what, I've watched seven years of the same thing.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna thinking year eight it's gonna be the exact

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Speaker 3: same as the first seven. We have seen Lincoln Riley's teams.

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Speaker 3: We know what they are. Incredible on offense, There's no

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Speaker 3: doubt KILEB Williams, by the way, covers up a lot

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Speaker 3: of stink. Like there was some bad offense yesterday. He

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Speaker 3: got hit way too much, but he's incredible. They fumble

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Speaker 3: the ball on a snap and he throws a seventy

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Speaker 3: eight yard touchdown because he's incredible. It's Kileb Williams. He scrambles,

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Speaker 3: he makes plays. But we've seen years of bad defense.

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Speaker 3: Now all of a sudden, we're like, they got to

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Speaker 3: two defensive linemen the portal. They're gonna be good again.

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Speaker 3: Like the problem is the scheme. It's not just the players,

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Speaker 3: it's they call a terrible defensive scheme. And they allowed

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Speaker 3: Santa Se States to just score twenty eight points, which

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Speaker 3: is fine, but it's how they scored the points. Right,

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Speaker 3: it's third and twenty two calling an exotic pressure to

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Speaker 3: like San Jose State, just rush four and hit the quarterback.

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Speaker 3: You're USC. You're not Washington State anymore, where Alex Kritch

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Speaker 3: used to coach, You're freaking USC. Go play rush for

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Speaker 3: its third and twenty two. That's what everyone else does.

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Speaker 3: That's what George is gonna do. Rush four, Like let

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Speaker 3: your dudes go make plays. It frustrates me so much

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Speaker 3: because it's so dumb, Like just just just make it simple, man.

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Speaker 5: You know, guys, I have to go by the points

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Speaker 5: spreads and the betting angles. So they didn't cover the game,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, because that was Yeah, I took the over. I

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Speaker 5: Played some subpar teams, so it was I guess, you know,

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Speaker 5: the linemakers are pretty good. Though it was closed. The

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Speaker 5: line was actually closed in that game. In this second game,

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Speaker 5: well actually it was the first game. In the first game,

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Speaker 5: I don't know if you guys realize, the total went

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Speaker 5: think forty eight and they closed around forty eight and

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Speaker 5: a half forty nine and the last score there, you

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Speaker 5: know Navy's going for that. That would have actually landed

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Speaker 5: right around the total, providing they kicked the extra point.

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Speaker 5: And yet I'll have to ask you both of you

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Speaker 5: guys about this. So the reason why Navy ops for

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Speaker 5: the field goal there just to get on the board, yes,

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Speaker 5: to say, didn't get shut out? Yeah, yeah, Well, guys

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Speaker 3: It like fourth and fourteen, like, what are they gonna do?

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Speaker 5: They even sports?

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Speaker 4: I think right, they completed three, they.

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Speaker 3: Had that one down the side. They also dropped two

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Speaker 3: I'll tell you what. One thing that I think we

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Speaker 3: these games is, yeah, Navy's not any good, right, new

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Speaker 3: there are players that I think would have gone Navy

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Speaker 3: money from elsewhere, I'm gonna go elsewhere. Right, it's hard

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Speaker 3: for them to you know, there's no transfer portal for them.

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Speaker 3: They're not getting kids transferring in. They got kids leaving though.

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Speaker 3: You know every now and then, so is that Notre

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Speaker 3: Dame is supposed to kick their butt and when they

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Speaker 3: do that should be praised because that doesn't always happen. Right,

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Speaker 3: that was a butt whooping yesterday all around the board.

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Speaker 3: You know, you look at their offense, right, Sam Harmon

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Speaker 3: looks legit. Well, he should look good against Navy because

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Speaker 3: last year the Not Dame quarterbacks in nless Brian didn't

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Speaker 3: look good against bad teams. Things.

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Speaker 4: Gosh, they lost.

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Speaker 3: To Stanford sixteen to fourteen. Stanford was terrible last season right,

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Speaker 3: So if it looks like it should, man like, that

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Speaker 3: should be a praise. The not Dame offensive line, maul Navy,

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Speaker 3: the entire game, the name defense played great. It's a

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Speaker 4: Now, I like where you're coming from, Jeff, and you

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Speaker 4: think about last year they lost to Marshall. Also, and

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Speaker 4: that was the game that Tyler Buckner who's now at Alabama,

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Speaker 4: He was terrible in that Marshall game. Believe that was

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Speaker 4: the game he got hurt in. Also, So yeah, just

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Speaker 4: because the competition isn't top of the line, it doesn't

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Speaker 4: you can tell there is a noticeable difference with Sam

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Speaker 4: Hartman there. It's obvious. I know they were playing Navy,

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Speaker 4: but when he throws four touchdown passes and you don't

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Speaker 4: just look at his stat line, you look at how

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Speaker 4: it's tight coverage and you're like, that's gonna translate against

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Speaker 4: he looks worlds better than what Notre Dame has had

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Speaker 4: for a long long time. So you have both Sam

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Speaker 4: was nice to see both those guys back, but question marks,

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Speaker 4: especially for USC's defense. If they're getting they're giving up

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Speaker 4: almost four hundred yards to San Jose State and that's

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Speaker 4: a closer ballgame for far too long. What are they

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Speaker 4: play some defense in college football.

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Speaker 3: Well, you have to, especially with the back half of

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Speaker 3: their schedule. I think we've talked about this, I don't

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Speaker 3: know on this show, but you know the last six

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Speaker 3: about a couple of weeks, and then it's I think

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Speaker 3: nine straight games in a row. They have actually a

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Speaker 3: make it to that game, they have an advantage. But

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Speaker 3: it's at Notre Dame home Utah at Cow which is

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Speaker 3: always feisty hosting Washington, go to Oregon and play Ucla.

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Speaker 3: At the minimum, that's four ranked teams, with two of

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Speaker 3: And you have a defense that refuses to be good.

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Speaker 3: They just they're just it's just not so. Yeah, they're

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Speaker 3: not a playoff team. I've been telling everyone this for

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Speaker 3: but I'm also going to give you an analysis like

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Speaker 3: let them play defense. Stop with this nonsense of this

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Speaker 4: Hey, by the way, you guys, you would both like

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Speaker 4: this crack you especially. I had San Jose State plus

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Speaker 4: seven and a half in the first quarter, So that

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Speaker 4: third and twenty two that you're talking about, Jeff, that

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Speaker 4: was beautiful. More of that, Lincoln, right, you.

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Speaker 3: Already went quarterbting in week one? Huh?

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Speaker 5: Not only that week one first game, right right? I

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Speaker 5: know that that was a little game, Jeff, I have

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Speaker 5: a question for you. You know these guys traveling over

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Speaker 5: some games in England. Had no idea there's going to

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Speaker 5: be games in Germany this year. Yeah, I've seen the

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Speaker 5: NFL how many five and a half all together?

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Speaker 3: Two and three?

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Speaker 5: And let me ask you, as a player, do you, guys,

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Speaker 5: do you want to go overseas to play? I know

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Speaker 5: it's only what six hours or whatever, I understand, but

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Speaker 3: So I never got a chance to do that. It

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Speaker 3: would have played the Rams. What they did. They played

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Speaker 3: the Rams. It's supposed to be a Rams home game.

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Speaker 3: They were still in the Colisseum. They played that game

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Speaker 3: in London. It would have been very funny for my parents.

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Speaker 3: Instead of driving ten miles to the Colisseum, they would

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Speaker 3: watch me play football game. We joked about that as

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Speaker 3: the schedule came out correct. I think there's there's two

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Speaker 3: ways to look at this. Some teams go for the week.

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Speaker 3: That would be fun. You go for the week, right,

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Speaker 3: you get in, you have an off day, you get

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Speaker 3: it's just a regular work week. There are teams that

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Speaker 3: That would suck in my opinion, if you're going for

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Speaker 3: the week, like you know, Kansas City goes to Germany

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Speaker 3: to play the Lions. No, No, they played week one. They're

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Speaker 3: playing someone in Germany in the middle of Dolphins. Maybe,

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Speaker 3: I don't know, They're play put someone in Germany. If

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Speaker 3: the entire week in Germany, that sounds like fun, like

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Speaker 3: that sounds like a fun time. But if you just

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Speaker 4: Trey Lance isn't ready for that yet, so they shipped

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Speaker 4: the field, I don't see how that benefits Trey Lance

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Speaker 4: very much. I don't see how he's gonna get a

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the Niners, I think We're just happy to get

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Speaker 3: it's just not good enough. It's at simple and they're

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Speaker 5: You know, I was looking up something, guys, because I

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Speaker 4: been done before. The truth is that Trey Lance just

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Speaker 4: to be. It doesn't need to be any more complicated

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Speaker 4: they should have gone with mac Jones. It's a should have,

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Speaker 4: get mac Jones. He doesn't have mobility. Trey Lance has mobility. Listen, man,

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Speaker 4: It's effective, it's valuable, but you got to be able

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Speaker 4: If you don't have that, Like, think about that, you

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Speaker 3: discussion is just going to be brutal now the next

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Speaker 3: couple of years about about him and his status. Now

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Speaker 3: because they drafted Trey Lance, He's just never going to

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Speaker 3: get an opportunity. We're never gonna know because maybe a

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Speaker 3: bad team one day lets him do it, but it

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Speaker 3: feels unlikely. And also, you know, there's really not a

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Speaker 3: lot of instances where we've seen a quarterback sort of

435
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Speaker 3: be a quote nquote bust and then become good again.

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Speaker 3: I mean the one example is maybe Alex Smith, but

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Speaker 3: you know, he you know, he was with the Niners.

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Speaker 3: Still he became good with the Niners and became better

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Speaker 3: with the Chiefs. He didn't like, leave the Niners as

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Speaker 3: a bust in Kansas City become good again. So I

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Speaker 3: just I think it's probably done for Lance as far

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Speaker 3: as a bona fide start in the NFL. Maybe he's

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Speaker 3: a backup, but look, some guys just don't have it, man.

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Speaker 3: So on the draft is a crap shit. It's fifty

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Speaker 3: to fifty to the top right, and the Niners drafted

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Speaker 3: a player who unfortunately is not that guy. And that's okay,

447
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Speaker 3: that's that's sort of life sometimes.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, good stuff. You know. I got to tell you

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Speaker 5: from U I listened to a lot of podcasts a

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Speaker 5: lot of I don't want to say wise guys, but

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Speaker 5: that's what they are. Wise where they're sharp, they're very

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Speaker 5: sharp guys. I listened to a lot of podcasts during

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Speaker 5: NFL season and even preseason, and it's we're talking about

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Speaker 5: two of the teams here that the sharp guys have

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Speaker 5: have played overs on. Believe it or not, even myself,

456
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Speaker 5: I've played over on Dallas for the season I played.

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Speaker 5: I didn't play over on San France. But the wise

458
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Speaker 5: guys have played over on San fran uh So they

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Speaker 5: like they like these two teams this year, speaking of

460
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Speaker 5: which this is, I can't remember another year. I do

461
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Speaker 5: bet some futures on some teams. I don't like to

462
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Speaker 5: tie up a lot of money on over unders season

463
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Speaker 5: wins or especially to win the Super Bowl and stuff

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Speaker 5: where it's high juice markets. However, this is the only

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Speaker 5: year I can remember. I have a list here of

466
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Speaker 5: this is from all different sharp guys that I know.

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Speaker 5: There's probably about I don't know, probably six or seven

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Speaker 5: guys I really respect in this business. Every one of

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Speaker 5: them likes teams to be better this year. I can

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Speaker 5: go on and I can go from Atlanta, Dero, Tennessee.

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Speaker 5: I just mentioned San Fran and Dallas, Chargers, Uh, Seattle,

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Speaker 5: Green Bay, Minnesota, Cleveland, the Jets, even Washington, get in Love, Baltimore, Miami, Jacksonville,

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Speaker 5: the Saints. This is all teams that guys like overrun.

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Speaker 5: I was like, who's gonna lose?

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Speaker 4: Right, I'm not going under.

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Speaker 5: I'm telling you so many teams people like the overs on.

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Speaker 5: The only under, I will tell you guys, it's gonna

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Speaker 5: be a common sense one too. The only under is Arizona.

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Speaker 5: That's the only under. Some of the guys like, now

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Speaker 5: that seems pretty simple, right, but it's in the line

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Speaker 5: already on their season wins. But that's the only under.

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Speaker 5: So just thinking about the wise guys liking San Fran

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Speaker 5: and Dallas, it's spurred on that thought.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's interesting. I think obviously the trailer's decision doesn't

485
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Speaker 3: really affect that at all now, but this is also

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Speaker 3: why the Niners have to get rid of it. Because

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Speaker 3: you can't have a discussion about your team center around

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Speaker 3: the thirstring quarterback, and you can't have a bad game

489
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Speaker 3: by party, and people wonder if not even Donald's gonna play,

490
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Speaker 3: but when it's time to put in the quarterback, so

491
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Speaker 3: he's gotta get rid of it, like you just having

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Speaker 3: Jerry Jones doesn't care about those things. Most teams do.

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Speaker 3: Jerry doesn't.

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Speaker 4: You know what's crazy is I just think crack what

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Speaker 4: you're bringing up this season? Win totals over under that

496
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Speaker 4: sort of thing. The players that were involved with the

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Speaker 4: Trey Lance situation, think about the Niners trade with the

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Speaker 4: Dolphins to move up to number three. Overall, the Dolphins

499
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Speaker 4: turn those first round picks into Tyreek Hill, Jalen Waddle,

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Speaker 4: Bradley Chubb. Now there was a little more compensation than

501
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Speaker 4: just those first round picks, but primarily those three first

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Speaker 4: round picks turned into those players. And oh, by the way,

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Speaker 4: the Niners moving up from that twelve spot that eventually

504
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Speaker 4: turned into Micah Parsons of the Dallas Cowboys. So like,

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Speaker 4: it's not just the Niners swinging and missing on Trey Lance,

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Speaker 4: it's what if they hit on a guy or two

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Speaker 4: by either staying put or trading down and going in

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Speaker 4: different directions. There's no telling the amount of talent they

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Speaker 4: could have had if they didn't go down the tray

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Speaker 4: Lance point, great point, a lot of point.

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Speaker 3: And even people that cover the Niners will tell you that,

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Speaker 3: you know there is some some depth concerns on the

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Speaker 3: team now because you've lost all these picks right in

514
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Speaker 3: this in this deal. Yeah, and you know the depth

515
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Speaker 3: is important. That the top end of what they do

516
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Speaker 3: obviously is really remarkable. They have a lot of talent,

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Speaker 3: but you know, depth is important because you know, you

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Speaker 3: have injuries, you have you have things, and you lose

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Speaker 3: a couple of games because of depth, and all of

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Speaker 3: a sudden your season changes.

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Speaker 4: You definitely need depth in the NFL. You don't need

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Speaker 4: depth on countdown to Kickoff because we have Isaac lowhen Kron.

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Speaker 4: We don't need backups. You know, he's got it down.

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Speaker 4: Pat I Loo with the latest here.

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Speaker 6: Just ask the guy filled in for one day, Wally Pip.

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Speaker 6: Good morning, fellas, and there is a lot of fresh

527
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Speaker 6: NFL news to relate. Multiple outlets reporting today the New

528
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Speaker 6: York Giants releasing running back James Robinson as well as

529
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Speaker 6: receiver Jaden Mickens. ESPN reports the Miami Dolphins defensive lineman

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Speaker 6: Zach Steelers agreed to a three year extension where up

531
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Speaker 6: to thirty eight million dollars with twenty million guaranteed. Dolphins

532
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Speaker 6: receiver Daywood Davis has been released from the hospital after

533
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Speaker 6: being injured in last night's game at Jacksonville and will

534
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Speaker 6: return to Miami today. Also last night, the Jets defeated

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Speaker 6: the Giants thirty two to twenty four, as Aaron Rodgers

536
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Speaker 6: made his debut, completing five of eight for forty seven yards,

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Speaker 6: including a fourteen yard touchdown pass to Garrett Wilson. Cowboys

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Speaker 6: over the Raiders thirty one to sixteen. Will Greer went

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Speaker 6: the distance at quarterback for Dallas, completing twenty nine of

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Speaker 6: thirty five for three hundred five yards, two touchdown passes

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Speaker 6: and two touchdown runs. Put me in coach, I'm hot indeed.

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Speaker 6: Also on Saturday Night, the Denver Broncos shut out the

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Speaker 6: Rams forty one to nothing. College football Saturday Night, sixth

544
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Speaker 6: ranked USC over San Jose State fifty six to twenty eight.

545
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Speaker 6: USC Heisman Trophy winning quarterback Caleb Williams threw for two

546
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Speaker 6: seventy eight with four touchdown passes off the field. ESPN

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Speaker 6: has just reported that Arizona State is expected to self

548
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Speaker 6: impose a one year Bowl ban for this amidst an

549
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Speaker 6: ongoing NCAA investigation for alleged violations that occurred under former

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Speaker 6: head coach Param Edwards.

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Speaker 1: You play to win the gate.

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Speaker 6: Allegedly in Major League Baseball Saturday night, the Cincinnati Reds

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Speaker 6: one at Arizona in eleven innings, eight to seven, breaking

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Speaker 6: the Diamondback six game winning streak, Cincinnati scoring the game

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Speaker 6: winning run in the top of the eleventh on a

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Speaker 6: Bock Fellas back to you, Thank you.

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Speaker 4: match fun fact Ilo mentioning Zach Sealer of the Dolphins

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Speaker 4: signing an extension went to Farris State. Just looked it up.

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Speaker 4: That apparently is located in Big Rapids, Michigan, and they

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Speaker 4: are the Bulldogs.

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Speaker 3: Okay, this is I'm gonna admit something that probably isn't

567
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Speaker 3: great considering I'm supposed to know everyone in the NFL,

568
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Speaker 3: but I also have a full time gig covering college football.

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Speaker 3: I don't know every roster on the NFL. I know

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Speaker 3: the big dogs. The one thing is like, there are

571
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Speaker 3: some defensive linement that I don't know exist, and that

572
00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:14,359
Speaker 3: gets some of these deals. It was one of the

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Speaker 3: Broncos signed someone this year from Arizona. I was like,

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Speaker 3: I didn't know he played football, no idea. And today

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Speaker 3: I broke up and saw this news. They're like, good

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Speaker 3: for you, buddy, but I couldn't point you in a lineup.

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Speaker 4: Hey, by the way, mister pack twelve there, Jeff. How

578
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Speaker 4: about Arizona State with the monstrous self imposed penalty of

579
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Speaker 4: no bowl game this season in a year.

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Speaker 3: Where they're not going to be a bowl team. It's

581
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Speaker 3: really really great love. I loved when teams do that.

582
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Speaker 3: The Herm thing was a disaster all the way around.

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Speaker 3: Nothing was good of it. I mean, Jay and Daniels

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Speaker 3: this year is like a Heisman finalist and they go

585
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Speaker 3: to LSU and they're talking about winning championship LSU this year, right,

586
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Speaker 3: sec maybe, and he couldn't get anything out of Arizona

587
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Speaker 3: State's best year was a true freshman season, well a disaster.

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Speaker 3: It's see, the thing about the punishments in the NC

589
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Speaker 3: double A is, so you're punishing Arizona State with a

590
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Speaker 3: brand new staff. Why why are they getting punished? Like? What? How?

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Speaker 3: Why is now? The ad is still there, the President's

592
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Speaker 3: still there. So maybe this is a punishment towards the

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Speaker 3: athletic director. But you're punishing I understand the Harbor punishment.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I get it. I don't think that Ben's

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Speaker 3: double A has much teeth right now, many teeth, and

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Speaker 3: they're trying to do what they can. Harball's still there,

597
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Speaker 3: right So if you want to punish Michigan, then but

598
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Speaker 3: you're punishing a team in Arizona State with a brand

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Speaker 3: new staff. So, Kenny Dillian, what I like a lot

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Speaker 3: was Organza c last year. He's thirty three, by the way,

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Speaker 3: head coach of becomes with thirty three years old. He's

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Speaker 3: getting punished because of his former coach, who had nothing

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Speaker 3: to do with So I don't think that's I think

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Speaker 3: even you know the Penn State stuff, the USC punishments

605
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Speaker 3: like for Penn State find them as much money as

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Speaker 3: you want, But why take away scholarships from players that

607
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Speaker 3: were not part of that? Like why hamper the coaching staff?

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Speaker 4: There's no perfect way to do it perfect.

609
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Speaker 3: The perfect way is find them a bazillion dollars. Like

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Speaker 3: that actually hurts the university. That's the only way to

611
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Speaker 3: do it right. It's like you you find the university

612
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Speaker 3: or find athletic but like taking away things from the

613
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Speaker 3: players that are there now, like at Arizona State, Like

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Speaker 3: I know they're not going to make a bowl this year,

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Speaker 3: but let's say they have a sixty six year. They

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Speaker 3: have a freakingly good year. Now they don't get to

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Speaker 3: reap the benefits of that, even though they have nothing

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Speaker 3: to do with what happened previously.

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Speaker 4: But you know how it goes. If they just find

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Speaker 4: them a bunch of money, most people would say, oh yeah,

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Speaker 4: that's like five dollars to them, you know what I mean,

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Speaker 4: like something there's.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Look, Brian, do you think like writing a check

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Speaker 3: for sixty million dollars where they find penns date, I

625
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Speaker 3: think it's still sixty million dollars? Like you're running that

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Speaker 3: check to that's double a Like I get it, You're

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Speaker 3: endowment's twenty seven billion, but still a check for sixty

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Speaker 3: million dollars.

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Speaker 5: Agree.

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Speaker 4: I hate when they rewrite history. That's what I really hate,

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Speaker 4: where it's we're gonna just take away these wins and oh,

632
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Speaker 4: that's like they didn't exist.

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Speaker 3: So I I my my five season. We were ten

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Speaker 3: and two at Oregon. Our two losses are technically vacated games.

635
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Speaker 3: It was usc and five and then Oklahoma that season

636
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Speaker 3: got their games vacated because the quarterback and off of

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Speaker 3: the tackle got a free car in Norman, Oklahoma. So

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Speaker 3: technically we're ten to o that season, which is done

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Speaker 3: because we lost to both of those teams. It didn't

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Speaker 3: matter that they vacated their wins. We lost those physical games.

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Speaker 3: But I think our official record in the record book

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Speaker 3: is tend to know that season.

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Speaker 4: Kind of crazy, super crazy.

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Speaker 3: They vacated both those games, like we lost those games.

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Speaker 3: I was there, played we lost those games.

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Speaker 4: Baby, we are back undefeated. Did you get your cash

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Speaker 4: back if you bet the wrong way? The game never happened, right,

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Speaker 4: we should get a refund.

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Speaker 3: Speaking about that, so last night crack text us a

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Speaker 3: couple of days ago, Hey take the over in Miami,

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Speaker 3: and oh we're.

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Speaker 4: Going to get to that. Okay, we're gonna get that

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Speaker 4: coming up next because we Yeah, we gotta.

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Speaker 3: I have a gripe I have before to that though.

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Speaker 3: Why are these games being canceled now when someone gets hurt?

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Speaker 3: I'm I know the Hamling thing, I get it, very serious.

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Speaker 3: Are we gonna do this? For football is a violent sport?

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00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:19,440
Speaker 3: Man like this happens. Yeah, it stinks, It totally does.

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Speaker 3: But most of the time we know when the player

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Speaker 3: leaves the field whether they're really hurt or not. Like

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Speaker 3: you know, guy's moving, his extremity is like he's we

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Speaker 3: sort of know that, like right away. The hamlet thing

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Speaker 3: was different, like that was a big that was a difference.

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Speaker 3: We know that we saw it. I saw it happen

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Speaker 3: in person. We all did. Are we gonnas? What's gonna

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Speaker 3: happen the regular season? We're gonna cancel games?

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Speaker 4: Right and every time.

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Speaker 3: Someone gets a little bit of an injury, Like I don't,

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Speaker 3: I'm kind of this is kind of fascinating me. So far,

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Speaker 3: we've done this in the preseason I think three times now, right,

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Speaker 3: games have been suspended when players getting hurt.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we're gonna get to that coming up next. With

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Speaker 4: Jeff's talking about a Dolphins receiver got carted off the

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Speaker 4: field against Jacksonville yesterday and they just ended the game,

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Speaker 4: and a yeah, there's a lot to chew on as

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Speaker 4: far as that goes, and as far as we know,

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Speaker 4: the most important news is that the player, they would

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Speaker 4: Davis fine, right, He's yeah, he's he's fine. He was

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Speaker 4: he had movement in all extremities, So we're good. We'll

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Speaker 4: little bit here so we can hear Randy Bli of

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Speaker 4: Lamb of God. Look a look at Iowa Sam bearing

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Speaker 4: gifts today.

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Speaker 5: Good gods. Him and Jeff they love this stuff.

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Speaker 4: Jeff drives around listening to Ruined the Lamb of God.

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Speaker 4: You kidding me? Crack love this top of his place.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, this is this is my music right here, that

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Speaker 3: Lamb of Lamb.

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Speaker 4: Would you say, Lamb of God God?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they wear like Lamb heads when they perform.

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Speaker 4: No, they do not, more like slipnot slip Nott wears

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Speaker 4: the masks. The Lambs just go out there bearing their

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Speaker 4: actual faces.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I just hope not to run into someone like you,

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Speaker 4: and you never know what you're gonna experience in.

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Speaker 5: The right you know what I mean. You get between

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Speaker 5: Jeff Schwartz and Bill Krackenberger, you might be in a

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Speaker 5: little trouble on the.

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Speaker 4: Good That's the chances every time with this music too.

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Speaker 5: I used to love heavy metal. I liked like deep

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Speaker 5: heavy metal, like except these crazy groups. Really uh you

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Speaker 5: know now, I'll get into some once in a while,

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Speaker 5: but like, I went to a concert literally for my

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Speaker 5: wife recently, and I said, wow, I'm just not into that, like,

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Speaker 5: but it was. It was Motley Crue, Motley Crue, def Lepper.

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Speaker 5: It wasn't as heavy as as that stuff. But I

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Speaker 5: used to like, like Judas Priest, Iron Maiden, sure check

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Speaker 5: in the day.

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Speaker 4: Very nice crack. I love that about you. So we

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Speaker 4: want to dive into this Jags Dolphins game last night.

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Speaker 4: The situation is a wide receiver from the Dolphins, Daywood Davis.

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Speaker 4: He got hit. He's running a slant route, gets hit

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Speaker 4: by the linebacker. Was motionless, scary scene. He's carted off

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Speaker 4: the field. He's taken to a hospital to check he

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Speaker 4: has movement in all of his extremities. Things look to

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Speaker 4: be okay. They stopped the game and this is how

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Speaker 4: it centered on the Dolphins TV network last night.

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Speaker 7: I got an injured my Dolphins incomplete pass into Davis

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Speaker 7: onto the cart. They will suspend the game with eight

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Speaker 7: thirty two to play in the game, the Jaguars thirty

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Speaker 7: one eighteen over the Miami Dolphins.

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Speaker 4: Okay, so here's the thing. They've done this a couple

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Speaker 4: of times in preseason and it's like, Okay, it's a

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Speaker 4: preseason game. They did this in the Patriots Packers game

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Speaker 4: last week, and fine, you want to stop preseason games. Okay,

741
00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:25,440
Speaker 4: this is not going to be a regular occurrence when

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Speaker 4: regular season games are you.

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Speaker 3: Are you sure about that, buddy?

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Speaker 4: Sure? Yeah, because it's got to rise to a Damar

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00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:33,839
Speaker 4: Hamlin type situation.

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Speaker 3: Dude, if the players say we're not playing, they're not playing, Like,

747
00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:41,920
Speaker 3: who's making this decision? I'm going to a tweet right now.

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00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:44,200
Speaker 3: The Dolphins immediately put out a tweet saying that he

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Speaker 3: was conscious a movement all his extremities, like that's the

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Speaker 3: nine of the carts, Like, that's what it is, right,

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00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:55,480
Speaker 3: I got that's the end result of this. And I

752
00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:59,040
Speaker 3: think the DeMar Hamlin thing rightfully spooked everyone, as it

753
00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:01,240
Speaker 3: should because it was he was dead in the field

754
00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:04,799
Speaker 3: and revived. We know that now, Like, but that's one

755
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Speaker 3: in a billion situation, right, And Brian, I think there's

756
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:11,440
Speaker 3: gonna be a time this year when there's a serious

757
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:13,239
Speaker 3: discussion of players saying I don't want to I'm not

758
00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:15,680
Speaker 3: playing this game anymore, huh with the players.

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Speaker 4: Okay, let's let's put a betting line on it now

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Speaker 4: and let's set it up the right way, because listen,

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Speaker 4: thank god, DeMar Hamlin is okay, thank god, David Davis

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00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:29,640
Speaker 4: is okay, all these players right, But if you're taking

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00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:33,440
Speaker 4: a game stopped like it's it's not suspended, we're not

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Speaker 4: beginning again, just like the Bengals and Bill's game, are

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Speaker 4: you saying there will be It's point one is the

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Speaker 4: betting line there will be a game that will not

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Speaker 4: be completed due to the concern over an injury. I

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Speaker 4: got the under this year. I don't think it happens.

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Speaker 3: I'm getting yes at what what plush plus what crack?

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Speaker 3: I'm getting yes game.

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Speaker 5: Yeah. I gotta be honestly, I'm I'm actually on Jeff's

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Speaker 5: side here. I think we're in very sensitive times. These

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00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:01,040
Speaker 5: things are happening left and I did not expect to

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Speaker 5: see this happening. And but Jeff said something. I picked

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Speaker 5: a little nugget out what he said there. He said

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00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:07,839
Speaker 5: it fast. Maybe you guys didn't hear it at home.

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Speaker 5: Ninety nine percent of carts that come out are for

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Speaker 5: things like this, when the people are they're moving their

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Speaker 5: extremities and they're okay that I hear you, right, Jeff?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, how many guys have been paralyzed right playing.

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Speaker 5: Football, right, So, but we're in some different times and

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00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:28,279
Speaker 5: and uh, you know these these you know, NFL wants

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Speaker 5: to be in bed with these sports gambling companies, which

784
00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:33,240
Speaker 5: I understand, and they have to realize people are betting

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Speaker 5: money on these games, including us. To be real, honest,

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Speaker 5: I didn't know nothing about the game at all. I was.

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Speaker 5: I went out, I didn't know nothing about the game stopped.

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Speaker 5: I thought that, like I, we have a group of

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Speaker 5: chet guys. So I give these guys some really good moves.

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Speaker 5: Sometimes I guess we've actually done unbelievable in preseason. And

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Speaker 5: I gave them the over run day I forgot I

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Speaker 5: even gave it to you guys. I didn't even know

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Speaker 5: I gave you. So all of us are actually spending

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Speaker 5: that money then, am I right? That's that's a winner,

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Speaker 5: that's in And then to lose like that is just

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Speaker 5: terrible one. But listen, even during the game, I'm hearing

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00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:10,760
Speaker 5: people talk. Now, Jeff, you said it yourself, he was moving.

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Speaker 5: It was okay. But if you see the photo, you

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Speaker 5: see the people around, I would have thought it was

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Speaker 5: it was a Hamlin situation. But it wasn't.

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Speaker 3: But I think that's the you know, there's a rightful

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Speaker 3: I think worry that that's gonna happen again. Like I

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Speaker 3: get why the image of in everyone's head gets cart

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Speaker 3: off is that it's a DeMar Ham situation. But again,

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Speaker 3: that was a one and a bill. It's never happened

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Speaker 3: before and it might never happen again for one hundred years.

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Speaker 4: Picked this back up because a lot of different layers

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Speaker 4: Speaking of beautiful, we'll get back to the preseason games

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Speaker 4: being ended due to concern over injury in a second here.

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Speaker 4: But Jeff, you met a guy who listens to this show?

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Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, and is might be driving around to church

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Speaker 4: right now. I want to hear this story here today. Say, man,

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Speaker 4: you guys are great, except for no that no guy

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Speaker 4: something good.

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Speaker 3: Shout out to Mike. We met at dinner last night.

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Speaker 3: He was uh with his wife. They were doing a

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Speaker 3: two part dinner for her birthday. I don't do two

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Speaker 3: part dinner dinner for my wife. I don't do like

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00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:51,880
Speaker 3: we did the appetizer and I went to another dinner.

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Speaker 3: I have to get on the two restaurant train, right. Wow,

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Speaker 3: I know he listens to us. Yeah it was. I said,

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Speaker 3: we have one listener now officially one, we know of one,

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Speaker 3: and my dad to two whole listeners on our shot.

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Speaker 3: So shout out to Mike who I met last night. Copah.

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Speaker 3: Dinner went well, high birthday to his wife. Was a

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Speaker 3: lot of fun talking to him.

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Speaker 4: Very cool man, very cool stuff. I wonder if he's

857
00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:15,840
Speaker 4: a gambler, if he's taking advantage of cracks wise picks

858
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:16,799
Speaker 4: over there, you know.

859
00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:18,520
Speaker 5: As they can gamble over there. It's pretty hard to

860
00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:20,000
Speaker 5: get pretty hard to get a bet down over there

861
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:20,760
Speaker 5: for a few months.

862
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:23,239
Speaker 3: I mean yeah, I mean, I think January just hope.

863
00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:25,680
Speaker 3: It makes no sense to me why these states don't

864
00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:27,879
Speaker 3: want to do it like it just they just you know, I.

865
00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:30,479
Speaker 5: Want to answer something. This is spontaneous. Someone told me something. Jeff,

866
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:33,040
Speaker 5: You're going to answer this question here for me. So

867
00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:37,439
Speaker 5: he tells me he could bet legally somewhere in North

868
00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:38,600
Speaker 5: Carolina and I could go.

869
00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:40,560
Speaker 3: You could go to a casino. There's like three of

870
00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:41,200
Speaker 3: them in the state.

871
00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:46,000
Speaker 5: And he goes west of Winston Salem somewhere and he said, oh,

872
00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:47,400
Speaker 5: I can bet there somewhere.

873
00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:51,520
Speaker 3: But that's yeah, there's like there's like three casinos in

874
00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:56,399
Speaker 3: in the state you could get, but you have to go,

875
00:42:56,560 --> 00:43:01,120
Speaker 3: Like the closest one to me is is forty five

876
00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:01,720
Speaker 3: minutes away.

877
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:07,640
Speaker 5: I'm not Oh, that's not too too bad. Yeah, crack buddy, thanks,

878
00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:08,560
Speaker 5: just to have it on the app.

879
00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:11,279
Speaker 4: Money, I'll be back in an hour and a half.

880
00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:13,640
Speaker 4: I want to take the USC second half line.

881
00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:18,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm like, I just ya that I like to wager.

882
00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:21,400
Speaker 3: It's not my business. I'm not driving forty five minutes

883
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:24,000
Speaker 3: to put down twenty bucks in Hawaii plus seven against

884
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:26,680
Speaker 3: Stanford this next weekend. I might start doing that. So

885
00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:30,120
Speaker 3: when when mobile wagering becomes a thing of North Carolina,

886
00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:33,239
Speaker 3: which it might, you know, maybe the January first, I

887
00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:33,759
Speaker 3: will do it.

888
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:35,879
Speaker 5: But I'm not the Bible belt man. The Bible belt.

889
00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:37,759
Speaker 5: They don't really you know, it's hard to listen this.

890
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:40,080
Speaker 5: I'm big. I'll tell you why people don't know this.

891
00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:42,799
Speaker 5: I used to go to South Carolina Myrtle Beach every

892
00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:46,680
Speaker 5: year for a big golf shootout involved a lot of money.

893
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:51,400
Speaker 5: There are gamblers all over the Carolina's all down to Florida,

894
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:54,560
Speaker 5: forget about it. There's so many things. When these states

895
00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:57,319
Speaker 5: become legal, you'll be shocked at the numbers that will

896
00:43:57,360 --> 00:43:59,880
Speaker 5: come out. There are not just out of the shorts household.

897
00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:05,160
Speaker 3: My life is. My life is no. Really. My wife

898
00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:08,400
Speaker 3: has no clue that I gamble, and I mean she

899
00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:11,080
Speaker 3: barely knows I do this radio show. I mean we're

900
00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:13,680
Speaker 3: at dinner last night and she's like, I told Mike,

901
00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:15,680
Speaker 3: I'm like, hey, I'm on tomorrow ten to one, because

902
00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:17,560
Speaker 3: he mentioned I was working with Furman right in the

903
00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:19,520
Speaker 3: off season before we show started up again. I was like, yeah,

904
00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:22,080
Speaker 3: I'm on tenda one. She goes, oh you are. I'm like, yes, honey,

905
00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:26,080
Speaker 3: I'm on ten to one every Sunday between now and

906
00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:34,440
Speaker 3: the end of season. Buddy. She does no attention to

907
00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:37,880
Speaker 3: my work schedule, just not the slightest idea of what

908
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:40,000
Speaker 3: like she. I think she generally knows I have radio

909
00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:43,319
Speaker 3: on Sundays, but doesn't really know the exact time it

910
00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:47,360
Speaker 3: happens because she just lives like this, like we're like

911
00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:50,080
Speaker 3: two ships passing night on the weekend. She's like all about,

912
00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:54,080
Speaker 3: like I'm watching football and she's all about like doing stuff,

913
00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:56,040
Speaker 3: like she drove an hour and a half to find

914
00:44:56,040 --> 00:44:58,400
Speaker 3: a dresser for a friend this morning, Like we're just

915
00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:03,520
Speaker 3: on two parallel track. God bless her, no idea. And

916
00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:05,279
Speaker 3: I told her, I'm like, she just the money just

917
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:07,840
Speaker 3: shows up with a bank account. Yeah, it just it

918
00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:08,800
Speaker 3: just it gets there somehow.

919
00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:11,320
Speaker 5: I wish I had that clear head that I was

920
00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:13,680
Speaker 5: able to on a Sunday morning. Let's drive an hour

921
00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:15,440
Speaker 5: and a half each way to get a dresser for

922
00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:17,920
Speaker 5: a friend. That's the clearhead I want in the morning,

923
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:20,759
Speaker 5: not worrying about anything at all. The money's coming in,

924
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:21,919
Speaker 5: all right, mister Shure.

925
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:25,480
Speaker 3: She just doesn't doesn't. Just no, just no paying attention

926
00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:25,960
Speaker 3: to what I do.

927
00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:30,600
Speaker 4: Well, fellas, let's get back into this this discussion. The

928
00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:35,200
Speaker 4: Jags Dolphins game was ended prematurely last night due to

929
00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:37,920
Speaker 4: concern over an injury. A wide receiver was carted off

930
00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:40,319
Speaker 4: the field. Thankfully, he's got movement and all of his

931
00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:43,200
Speaker 4: all of his extremities. Looks like it's going to be fine,

932
00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:47,160
Speaker 4: but the game was stopped and there were eight minutes

933
00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:49,680
Speaker 4: and thirty two seconds left in the fourth quarter, and

934
00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:52,400
Speaker 4: to reset it. I'm fine with this happening in the preseason.

935
00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:55,080
Speaker 4: I want every player to be healthy. But listen, this

936
00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:57,360
Speaker 4: is just the nature of the sport. And when the

937
00:45:57,360 --> 00:46:01,840
Speaker 4: regular season rolls around, we're in a post DeMar Hamlin

938
00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:05,640
Speaker 4: world here where they ended the game early between the

939
00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:08,680
Speaker 4: Bills and Bengals last year, but that was a life

940
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:12,440
Speaker 4: or death situation. I go back think about that earlier

941
00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:15,279
Speaker 4: in the season on the same field to a tongue

942
00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:20,759
Speaker 4: of II looa slammed down, clearly concussed. His fingers were frozen.

943
00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:22,319
Speaker 4: It's this really scary scene.

944
00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:22,840
Speaker 5: He's terrible.

945
00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:26,400
Speaker 4: Look he's carted off the field, game resumed like nothing happened, right, Like,

946
00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:29,440
Speaker 4: I think we're gonna see that this year. Put it

947
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:34,040
Speaker 4: this way, would you guys, do you think that there

948
00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:37,960
Speaker 4: will be one game that ends before it's completed right

949
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:40,560
Speaker 4: where we literally have a team like last year with

950
00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:43,920
Speaker 4: the Bengals and the Bills, where they like they only

951
00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:46,640
Speaker 4: played sixteen games instead of seventeen. Do you think that

952
00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:48,360
Speaker 4: will happen? Because I don't. I think it's just the

953
00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:50,960
Speaker 4: nature of the sport. And unless it's life or death,

954
00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:52,440
Speaker 4: I think the games are gonna resume.

955
00:46:53,160 --> 00:46:55,680
Speaker 3: I think if the game is like thirty five seventeen

956
00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:57,840
Speaker 3: with four minutes left and someone gets card off, that

957
00:46:57,880 --> 00:46:59,640
Speaker 3: game will be that game will be ended.

958
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:03,160
Speaker 4: I agree, but that would be it would still count as.

959
00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:06,000
Speaker 3: It would count as a win for the one right, Yeah,

960
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:08,879
Speaker 3: but it would or forfeit, whatevery terminology you want to use,

961
00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:11,440
Speaker 3: but I think it would count. And sports books, I

962
00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:14,400
Speaker 3: believe crack. They have the house rules state fifty five

963
00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:15,040
Speaker 3: minutes have to be.

964
00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:17,359
Speaker 5: Fifty five right, five minutes left. Yeah, so a lot

965
00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:18,719
Speaker 5: of them do is you have to check what your

966
00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:20,880
Speaker 5: local check what your book. Guys don't don't really go

967
00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:22,160
Speaker 5: because I've seen someone else.

968
00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:22,759
Speaker 3: Uh.

969
00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:24,799
Speaker 5: You know, some of these books will actually pay out

970
00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:26,640
Speaker 5: and say, you know, it was a bad beat there.

971
00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:28,640
Speaker 5: They'll see what their exposure is of course where they

972
00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:31,719
Speaker 5: correct and they'll say, oh, let's pay everybody. Yeah, let's

973
00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:35,319
Speaker 5: give a good good guys, Yeah, good guys. But yeah,

974
00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:37,960
Speaker 5: you have to check what your rules there and and uh,

975
00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:40,160
Speaker 5: I think it possibly can happen again. You know, some

976
00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:42,279
Speaker 5: of these crazy books put up lines sometimes will the

977
00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:45,120
Speaker 5: game stop again, you know, and then you'll have someone

978
00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:47,440
Speaker 5: like me maneuvering to see how I can get the

979
00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:50,600
Speaker 5: lights turned off, just like shut out and just you know.

980
00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:54,200
Speaker 4: Was that you super Bowl forty seven with the writers.

981
00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:58,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, CRUs my wager. Turn it off, everybody, turn it off.

982
00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:01,239
Speaker 5: That has happened then college football, by the way, guys

983
00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:04,920
Speaker 5: here here in unl here Aaron, Vegas. It has happened before.

984
00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:08,400
Speaker 3: So look it's what the lights got turned off game?

985
00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:11,279
Speaker 5: Yes, yes, with like I don't know how much time

986
00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:14,040
Speaker 5: it was, but got turned off game and then there

987
00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:18,040
Speaker 5: was so much skeptical uh you know, talk about who

988
00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:21,040
Speaker 5: turned them off and why there was so much movement

989
00:48:21,080 --> 00:48:24,360
Speaker 5: to the game going under and it was over and

990
00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:26,680
Speaker 5: they pulled I'm not gonna say I don't.

991
00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:28,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like that could be done at Sam

992
00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:31,000
Speaker 3: Boyd's stadium. I feel like a Legion stadium. Yeah, you

993
00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:32,200
Speaker 3: ain't pulled any plugs.

994
00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:34,359
Speaker 5: Out of that. That's a Sam Boyd thing. You're absolutely right.

995
00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:39,000
Speaker 4: That's crazy to me too. Is just from a gambling standpoint, right,

996
00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:42,320
Speaker 4: Take the game yesterday between the Dolphins and the Jags.

997
00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:46,840
Speaker 4: It's thirty one to eighteen. That's over the total for

998
00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:49,600
Speaker 4: the game. The game has gone over. If the game

999
00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:53,200
Speaker 4: ends prematurely, it is garbage that you don't get paid out.

1000
00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:56,919
Speaker 4: It is crazy to me. It's already gone over. There's

1001
00:48:56,960 --> 00:48:59,120
Speaker 4: no way it can go under from that point on.

1002
00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:02,359
Speaker 4: But just because the game hasn't been completed, good point,

1003
00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:04,560
Speaker 4: you don't get a paid.

1004
00:49:04,120 --> 00:49:08,000
Speaker 3: That is they should in that instance has already gone over.

1005
00:49:08,719 --> 00:49:11,680
Speaker 3: They should give They should cash those wagers, right, I mean,

1006
00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:15,200
Speaker 3: they should at least give you. Maybe you call her

1007
00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:17,120
Speaker 3: no bet for the someone that's under.

1008
00:49:19,239 --> 00:49:24,960
Speaker 8: The side side, Yeah, but the side in theory could change.

1009
00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:28,000
Speaker 8: That's why total to Brian's point, you can't score less points,

1010
00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:29,840
Speaker 8: so they really should pay out the people to have

1011
00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:31,480
Speaker 8: the over. If you want to do no bet for

1012
00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:34,240
Speaker 8: someone who has the under shine, I guess it breaks

1013
00:49:34,239 --> 00:49:38,680
Speaker 8: your house rules. But I want my fifty dollars for that.

1014
00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:41,480
Speaker 3: I just look. I mean, the over was the right call.

1015
00:49:41,560 --> 00:49:45,000
Speaker 3: Crack Crack was right. Shocker, he was right again, everybody.

1016
00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:48,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, coming going to a little something yesterday because Jeff,

1017
00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:50,440
Speaker 5: I think Jeff, the tone of the text came off

1018
00:49:50,520 --> 00:49:53,359
Speaker 5: yesterday wrong. So I gave these guys chiefs, and then

1019
00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:56,040
Speaker 5: I gave these guys the chiefs early and it moved

1020
00:49:56,239 --> 00:49:58,719
Speaker 5: preseason game moved down to you know, one one and

1021
00:49:58,760 --> 00:50:01,399
Speaker 5: a half. By the way, Jeff brought up some great

1022
00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:04,759
Speaker 5: points in our group chat. He said, listen, I'm just

1023
00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:06,600
Speaker 5: wanting to let you know Kansas City will not play

1024
00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:09,120
Speaker 5: starters in the last game of the season. They actually

1025
00:50:09,560 --> 00:50:12,160
Speaker 5: what happened was Reid actually didn't announce that he was

1026
00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:14,200
Speaker 5: going to play some starters, but he didn't play Mahomes,

1027
00:50:14,239 --> 00:50:16,680
Speaker 5: which I thought he was gonna play. So it just

1028
00:50:16,719 --> 00:50:19,120
Speaker 5: so happens that they you know, they were getting blown

1029
00:50:19,160 --> 00:50:21,799
Speaker 5: out there. They actually came back in the game for

1030
00:50:21,880 --> 00:50:26,880
Speaker 5: a sick cover, you know. But but situations happened in

1031
00:50:27,040 --> 00:50:30,560
Speaker 5: games that uh, you know we have. Honestly, Jeff and

1032
00:50:30,600 --> 00:50:32,480
Speaker 5: I were on different sides there. I think Jeff, didn't

1033
00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:34,080
Speaker 5: you have first.

1034
00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:36,359
Speaker 3: Hands, So I took I took Brown's first half.

1035
00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:37,799
Speaker 5: That's what he took first.

1036
00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:39,800
Speaker 3: I took your Chiefs plus three and a half because

1037
00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:41,840
Speaker 3: I just I just tail you. So I hit both wagers.

1038
00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:44,760
Speaker 3: I'm hate wow. But here's the thing about the preseason,

1039
00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:47,520
Speaker 3: which is why there's money to be made in the preseason,

1040
00:50:48,880 --> 00:50:51,400
Speaker 3: is knowing the patterns of these coaches. Right, So, as

1041
00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:53,080
Speaker 3: I mentioned that textart a couple of days ago. So

1042
00:50:53,120 --> 00:50:57,160
Speaker 3: Andy Red's not playing Mahomes was a bad information. But

1043
00:50:57,719 --> 00:51:00,120
Speaker 3: he will play some starters. It's like Andy Re he

1044
00:51:00,200 --> 00:51:02,920
Speaker 3: does because I know his patterns. I've watched off him.

1045
00:51:03,120 --> 00:51:05,640
Speaker 3: He'll play like the starting offensive line with the backup

1046
00:51:05,719 --> 00:51:09,560
Speaker 3: quarterback for a series to let the backup quarterback get

1047
00:51:10,239 --> 00:51:13,279
Speaker 3: a look with a starting offense, like it's kind of

1048
00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:14,719
Speaker 3: just to give him. And he does that all through

1049
00:51:14,719 --> 00:51:18,040
Speaker 3: the preseason like most like even last game he pulled Mahomes,

1050
00:51:18,320 --> 00:51:20,000
Speaker 3: he left the starting offensive line in there to give

1051
00:51:20,040 --> 00:51:22,839
Speaker 3: him one series with the backup. In the first preseason game,

1052
00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:25,880
Speaker 3: Mahomes played a drive, took Mahomes out. He left the

1053
00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:28,640
Speaker 3: one offense in to give you know, Blaine Gabbard opportunity

1054
00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:30,160
Speaker 3: to play with the one offense. He does it all

1055
00:51:30,239 --> 00:51:33,040
Speaker 3: the time. So when he says I'm playing starters, he

1056
00:51:33,120 --> 00:51:35,440
Speaker 3: is playing starters, just not with Mahomes.

1057
00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:38,600
Speaker 5: And he played for the whole first half though Jeff.

1058
00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:41,600
Speaker 3: No, he played the star offensive line for the first

1059
00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:45,040
Speaker 3: Typically it's one I haven't watched the game. I could

1060
00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:47,320
Speaker 3: go back and watch it, but typically it's one series

1061
00:51:47,520 --> 00:51:49,640
Speaker 3: for the starters. In the last game, just to get

1062
00:51:49,680 --> 00:51:51,960
Speaker 3: the backup quarterback some work and he got Kelsey. I

1063
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:55,160
Speaker 3: don't didn't play a select defensive guys didn't play like

1064
00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:57,560
Speaker 3: Chris Jones of he was there when I played Nick

1065
00:51:57,600 --> 00:52:00,440
Speaker 3: bowl in their middle linebacker didn't play. But like so

1066
00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:03,400
Speaker 3: when you hear like he's playing starters, Stefanski for the

1067
00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:07,440
Speaker 3: Browns said, I'm playing Deshaun Watson twenty to twenty five plays,

1068
00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:09,400
Speaker 3: which he did. So that's why I took the Browns

1069
00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:12,040
Speaker 3: first half because I knew for sir, and Watson was

1070
00:52:12,080 --> 00:52:14,880
Speaker 3: gonna play. I knew Mahomes wasn't gonna play. So of

1071
00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:17,520
Speaker 3: course that those advantages leave the door now because it's

1072
00:52:17,560 --> 00:52:21,520
Speaker 3: the NFL rare season. I am. I'm a little upset

1073
00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:23,319
Speaker 3: I did someone in the preseason because that's just for

1074
00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:24,879
Speaker 3: sure gonna comes week.

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Speaker 5: We really kill, Yeah, we did. We killed.

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00:52:28,440 --> 00:52:30,520
Speaker 4: You can find ankles mad like I was on the

1077
00:52:30,560 --> 00:52:35,480
Speaker 4: first half Brown's line because Deshaun Watson was playing a ton. Yeah,

1078
00:52:35,520 --> 00:52:37,400
Speaker 4: and you didn't have a home see the field and

1079
00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:39,359
Speaker 4: we still had to sweat it out. Browns were up

1080
00:52:39,360 --> 00:52:41,920
Speaker 4: twenty two to three. Yeah, and the Chiefs had the

1081
00:52:41,960 --> 00:52:44,680
Speaker 4: ball with the chance to ruin our homes and dreams

1082
00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:47,080
Speaker 4: there just last nay.

1083
00:52:47,719 --> 00:52:50,480
Speaker 5: First half, but you must I've never bet a game

1084
00:52:50,520 --> 00:52:52,759
Speaker 5: where like that the route war but you don't want

1085
00:52:52,800 --> 00:52:55,600
Speaker 5: them to get that far ahead. So in other words,

1086
00:52:55,760 --> 00:52:59,000
Speaker 5: if they're going in second quarter and you're already winning, no, no, no, no,

1087
00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:01,920
Speaker 5: I got case. Wait a minute, Like I've.

1088
00:53:01,760 --> 00:53:03,759
Speaker 3: Done that before. I've done that before where I've taken

1089
00:53:03,800 --> 00:53:07,480
Speaker 3: opposite sides in college football games, like first half one

1090
00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:09,239
Speaker 3: team and then I take the full game the other team.

1091
00:53:09,440 --> 00:53:13,960
Speaker 3: Who expected result to happen. But I posted ten plays

1092
00:53:13,960 --> 00:53:16,000
Speaker 3: for Fox Sports in the preseason. I was eight and two,

1093
00:53:16,360 --> 00:53:18,799
Speaker 3: so I'll all good. But again like I'm now I'm

1094
00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:20,520
Speaker 3: gonna go oh for five of my contest picks in

1095
00:53:20,600 --> 00:53:22,759
Speaker 3: Week one, So like there's there's a trade off there

1096
00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:23,960
Speaker 3: in that obviously.

1097
00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:28,480
Speaker 4: Like sometimes just fade McVeigh, Sean McVay. They got blown

1098
00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:31,240
Speaker 4: out like forty one nothing or something last night against Denver,

1099
00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:33,279
Speaker 4: Like the Rams just don't care. They don't care about

1100
00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:33,960
Speaker 4: the preseason.

1101
00:53:34,080 --> 00:53:38,120
Speaker 3: Yes, I have said that for again it's I sent

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00:53:38,200 --> 00:53:41,319
Speaker 3: you the email, right, Brian. The coaching records, Like that's

1103
00:53:41,360 --> 00:53:43,200
Speaker 3: a way to bet the preseason. As you look at

1104
00:53:43,239 --> 00:53:47,560
Speaker 3: which coaches historically when Pete Carroll. Now I've faded Harbaugh

1105
00:53:47,640 --> 00:53:49,279
Speaker 3: this this year because I think the Ravens the last

1106
00:53:49,320 --> 00:53:50,680
Speaker 3: couple of years. I look at the scores like they're

1107
00:53:50,719 --> 00:53:52,960
Speaker 3: kind of going backwards with that, and Ravens lost again,

1108
00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:58,399
Speaker 3: didn't cover I think yesterday. But like Harbaugh, Carol Sean

1109
00:53:58,480 --> 00:54:01,160
Speaker 3: McDermott's been good in the preseason and like and there's

1110
00:54:01,320 --> 00:54:04,160
Speaker 3: the opposite is true. There's coaches like with just atrocious

1111
00:54:04,200 --> 00:54:06,600
Speaker 3: because to your point, and I made this point many

1112
00:54:06,640 --> 00:54:09,040
Speaker 3: times now, these offensive coaches, mostly at the bottom, they

1113
00:54:09,080 --> 00:54:11,239
Speaker 3: don't care, like they just want to get their work in,

1114
00:54:11,560 --> 00:54:14,040
Speaker 3: go home and be done with it, and especially the

1115
00:54:14,080 --> 00:54:18,760
Speaker 3: younger offensive coaches. But you know, Tomlin's great in the preseason. Again,

1116
00:54:18,840 --> 00:54:20,960
Speaker 3: that's where I got some advantage. I took Steelers first

1117
00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:23,399
Speaker 3: half because they said can you pickup? Is gonna play?

1118
00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:25,600
Speaker 3: And they dominated, so.

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Speaker 5: I think I think it was I think that was

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Speaker 5: one of the games.

1121
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Speaker 3: Yeah, because they they were playing, they're up twenty they

1122
00:54:32,280 --> 00:54:33,799
Speaker 3: won the first half, I think twenty four to three.

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Speaker 5: Well that was a first half play I don't remember.

1124
00:54:35,600 --> 00:54:36,600
Speaker 5: I just know the first half.

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Speaker 3: I think you've actually first half end full game. If

1126
00:54:38,760 --> 00:54:40,480
Speaker 3: people had access how much would we charge them for

1127
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Speaker 3: access to our text three?

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Speaker 4: Wow, No, No, you're right this particular what if they're

1129
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Speaker 4: Android users, Jeff, what if.

1130
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Speaker 5: They're Oh I went over and you're right. You guys

1131
00:54:49,880 --> 00:54:52,319
Speaker 5: are right. Jeff is right though, this particular text chain

1132
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Speaker 5: that we have going, I don't want to say the number,

1133
00:54:55,880 --> 00:54:58,520
Speaker 5: but it's it's like eighty percent so far this season

1134
00:54:58,640 --> 00:55:00,759
Speaker 5: is pretty sick. And that's all over like a dozen

1135
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Speaker 5: plays to It's not.

1136
00:55:01,440 --> 00:55:05,319
Speaker 4: Just charge memberships. You know, the charge memberships right there.

1137
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Speaker 5: And you know, I know, Iowa Sam every time he

1138
00:55:07,400 --> 00:55:09,839
Speaker 5: runs to the you know, hold wait a minute, Cracker,

1139
00:55:09,840 --> 00:55:11,680
Speaker 5: I gotta get this in though, like these I know

1140
00:55:11,719 --> 00:55:13,840
Speaker 5: you guys are all running around making.

1141
00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:18,480
Speaker 4: We've got We've got. Jeff Schwartz, eight year NFL veteran

1142
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1143
00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:25,960
Speaker 4: I'm Brian no coming up next. It's a big change

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Speaker 4: in the Big Ten. It has nothing to do with

1145
00:55:28,280 --> 00:55:31,840
Speaker 4: re alignment, but it could lead to other changes in

1146
00:55:31,920 --> 00:55:34,200
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1155
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Speaker 4: we're gonna see a big change in the Big Ten

1156
00:56:09,520 --> 00:56:12,040
Speaker 4: this year. It doesn't involve realignment, we'll get to that

1157
00:56:12,840 --> 00:56:16,839
Speaker 4: business here in a bit, but they're going to require

1158
00:56:17,080 --> 00:56:23,120
Speaker 4: availability reports. So it's the latest adjustment with legalized sports

1159
00:56:23,160 --> 00:56:24,320
Speaker 4: gambling on the rise.

1160
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Speaker 3: Ye.

1161
00:56:24,800 --> 00:56:28,400
Speaker 4: So the Big Ten conference they say two hours before

1162
00:56:28,520 --> 00:56:32,000
Speaker 4: kickoff on game day, we need to let we need

1163
00:56:32,040 --> 00:56:35,560
Speaker 4: to know who's available and who will be out for

1164
00:56:35,640 --> 00:56:39,360
Speaker 4: that game. And this is a big change because listen,

1165
00:56:39,400 --> 00:56:43,440
Speaker 4: in college football, you're just in the dark. There's a

1166
00:56:43,440 --> 00:56:47,399
Speaker 4: famous example last year, Cam Rising, the Utah quarterback. You're

1167
00:56:47,440 --> 00:56:49,920
Speaker 4: thinking he's gonna play in a game, and then all

1168
00:56:49,920 --> 00:56:52,080
Speaker 4: of a sudden, right at kickoff, it's like, no, Cam

1169
00:56:52,160 --> 00:56:54,720
Speaker 4: Rising's not playing, and you're like, I'm holding a Utah

1170
00:56:54,800 --> 00:56:58,280
Speaker 4: ticket though, This is brutal. So this is a change

1171
00:56:58,320 --> 00:57:01,799
Speaker 4: by the Big Ten. They say, if you don't get

1172
00:57:01,800 --> 00:57:05,839
Speaker 4: your report in two hours before kickoff, you could be disciplined.

1173
00:57:06,040 --> 00:57:08,760
Speaker 4: That's what they say. So we'll see if Harbaugh shrugs

1174
00:57:08,760 --> 00:57:12,000
Speaker 4: his shoulders and says, ah, whatever, what are you gonna do? Huh.

1175
00:57:12,160 --> 00:57:15,120
Speaker 4: We'll see if everybody plays ball. But this is a

1176
00:57:15,160 --> 00:57:20,320
Speaker 4: step in a direction to embrace sports wagering and give

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00:57:20,360 --> 00:57:23,919
Speaker 4: an availability report like the NFL does. We always wait

1178
00:57:23,960 --> 00:57:26,760
Speaker 4: two hours before kickoff with these NFL games to know

1179
00:57:26,760 --> 00:57:29,360
Speaker 4: who's in who's out. You're gonna start to see that

1180
00:57:29,480 --> 00:57:32,000
Speaker 4: more in college football now, at least in the Big Ten.

1181
00:57:33,080 --> 00:57:36,800
Speaker 3: Uh, call me skeptical that we're gonna have honesty on

1182
00:57:36,840 --> 00:57:37,160
Speaker 3: this one.

1183
00:57:37,160 --> 00:57:37,360
Speaker 5: Here.

1184
00:57:38,880 --> 00:57:40,480
Speaker 3: The Cam Rising was a good, a good one.

1185
00:57:40,560 --> 00:57:40,800
Speaker 5: Right.

1186
00:57:40,880 --> 00:57:45,600
Speaker 3: He dressed for the Washington State game. What's go, Let's

1187
00:57:45,680 --> 00:57:48,920
Speaker 3: let's use Cam Rising again? All right? Utah Florida they

1188
00:57:48,960 --> 00:57:51,280
Speaker 3: play Thursday night, This Thursday night, be a great game

1189
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Speaker 3: a PM. He's trying to believe on ESPN, cam uising.

1190
00:57:54,280 --> 00:57:56,680
Speaker 3: I don't think it's gonna play. But obviously, you know

1191
00:57:56,880 --> 00:57:59,760
Speaker 3: Utah is not forth right with the news. They don't

1192
00:57:59,760 --> 00:58:03,240
Speaker 3: have to, so the report I got was he's still

1193
00:58:03,240 --> 00:58:06,400
Speaker 3: gonna dress and like go through pregame, but not gonna play.

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00:58:06,880 --> 00:58:08,880
Speaker 3: So they're not gonna put him on injury report because

1195
00:58:08,880 --> 00:58:12,000
Speaker 3: he's gonna address. Like, how is this gonna change anything?

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00:58:12,440 --> 00:58:15,040
Speaker 3: If you you're trying to you dress so many guys

1197
00:58:15,080 --> 00:58:16,640
Speaker 3: in college football, it's not like the NFL. We have

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00:58:16,680 --> 00:58:19,080
Speaker 3: forty six guys or forty eight and they change the

1199
00:58:19,160 --> 00:58:22,200
Speaker 3: rule every year. Forty seven guys plus an extra quarterback.

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Speaker 3: You're gonna address six for non conference games. I think

1201
00:58:26,240 --> 00:58:28,600
Speaker 3: the rules might have change me. I think you addressed

1202
00:58:28,720 --> 00:58:30,600
Speaker 3: how many guys you want for a non conference game.

1203
00:58:30,840 --> 00:58:33,080
Speaker 3: Dress them all, dress all one hundred guys. Dress as

1204
00:58:33,120 --> 00:58:36,320
Speaker 3: many as you want, so you don't. It doesn't hurt

1205
00:58:36,360 --> 00:58:38,959
Speaker 3: your your your team. If you address the guy who's

1206
00:58:38,960 --> 00:58:41,720
Speaker 3: not gonna play, doesn't take away a roster spot from

1207
00:58:41,760 --> 00:58:44,240
Speaker 3: someone else. So are they gonna be honest about this

1208
00:58:44,280 --> 00:58:47,240
Speaker 3: and say, hey, look, Cam Rising is out this game?

1209
00:58:47,440 --> 00:58:50,160
Speaker 3: Are they gonna say? No, no, No, he's dressed, so he's

1210
00:58:50,160 --> 00:58:52,040
Speaker 3: sort of he's still kind of active. He's up an

1211
00:58:52,040 --> 00:58:54,760
Speaker 3: active roster for the game, and so I don't think

1212
00:58:54,760 --> 00:58:57,720
Speaker 3: this changes anything. The reason why the NFL injury report

1213
00:58:58,280 --> 00:58:59,720
Speaker 3: to me, is not that big of a deal when

1214
00:58:59,760 --> 00:59:02,840
Speaker 3: it comes to game days because we have it Wednesday, Thursday, Friday,

1215
00:59:02,840 --> 00:59:05,560
Speaker 3: Saturday and the designations. You have to be honest about it.

1216
00:59:05,560 --> 00:59:08,760
Speaker 3: If a guy's doubtful, he's doubtful on Friday, probably not

1217
00:59:08,840 --> 00:59:10,960
Speaker 3: playing Sunday. Right, It's not very often that we have

1218
00:59:11,800 --> 00:59:16,640
Speaker 3: a surprise scratch before a game, especially really the quarterback

1219
00:59:16,680 --> 00:59:19,080
Speaker 3: position is only when that matters anyways for this stuff.

1220
00:59:19,080 --> 00:59:22,360
Speaker 3: So crack I kind of call bs on a lot

1221
00:59:22,360 --> 00:59:24,000
Speaker 3: of this unless they start doing it during the week.

1222
00:59:24,240 --> 00:59:26,760
Speaker 3: If they do it started Monday, then I think it's legit.

1223
00:59:27,080 --> 00:59:29,240
Speaker 3: But ninety minutes before a game, two hours before a game,

1224
00:59:29,280 --> 00:59:31,480
Speaker 3: a our third string right tackle got hurt in practice

1225
00:59:31,480 --> 00:59:32,920
Speaker 3: this week, big whoopee.

1226
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Speaker 5: Like if you notice as soon as you started talking

1227
00:59:35,400 --> 00:59:37,080
Speaker 5: about and you said the word skeptical, I put a

1228
00:59:37,080 --> 00:59:41,480
Speaker 5: big thumbs up, because listen, I've been part of some

1229
00:59:41,560 --> 00:59:45,040
Speaker 5: of the sharpest sports sports wagering syndicates in the world

1230
00:59:45,040 --> 00:59:49,200
Speaker 5: for the last twenty twenty three, twenty four years. I'll

1231
00:59:49,240 --> 00:59:52,600
Speaker 5: just tell you the access to injuries that we have

1232
00:59:52,800 --> 00:59:56,640
Speaker 5: had over the years. There's a line service out here.

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00:59:56,640 --> 00:59:58,560
Speaker 5: There's a couple different line services in the country that

1234
00:59:58,600 --> 01:00:02,480
Speaker 5: give live a line line to uh sports better sports books.

1235
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Speaker 5: We've had the injuries before it's even announced on these

1236
01:00:06,520 --> 01:00:09,560
Speaker 5: these some of these fagezis, I shouldn stay it figazy,

1237
01:00:09,600 --> 01:00:12,640
Speaker 5: But you know, it's all a matter of information and

1238
01:00:12,680 --> 01:00:14,600
Speaker 5: how you processing and how you get it, how you

1239
01:00:14,640 --> 01:00:18,800
Speaker 5: obtain it. We're not obtaining it illegally, but we get

1240
01:00:18,880 --> 01:00:22,560
Speaker 5: information on injuries based on socials a lot. There's so

1241
01:00:22,560 --> 01:00:24,240
Speaker 5: many little nuggets you could pick up if you know

1242
01:00:24,280 --> 01:00:26,760
Speaker 5: the exactly the right people to who to listen to.

1243
01:00:27,160 --> 01:00:32,000
Speaker 5: So I'm I'm definitely here skeptical to the max because

1244
01:00:32,960 --> 01:00:37,439
Speaker 5: as far as injuries go, like I said, twenty three

1245
01:00:37,520 --> 01:00:40,520
Speaker 5: twenty four years, Uh, me and my guys and people

1246
01:00:40,560 --> 01:00:45,120
Speaker 5: I've been around have been getting injuries before anyone, before

1247
01:00:45,120 --> 01:00:48,840
Speaker 5: it's even announced out there, because they're just paying close

1248
01:00:48,880 --> 01:00:52,920
Speaker 5: attention to the market to what's going on. You you know, Uh,

1249
01:00:53,040 --> 01:00:55,160
Speaker 5: there's a there's a one of the legendary bookmakers out here,

1250
01:00:55,280 --> 01:00:58,000
Speaker 5: Jimmy Viccaro. He works over at the South Point now.

1251
01:00:58,000 --> 01:01:00,000
Speaker 5: But you know Steve Win hand picked him the open

1252
01:01:00,040 --> 01:01:02,760
Speaker 5: in the Mirage. You know, he said on a great

1253
01:01:02,760 --> 01:01:04,800
Speaker 5: TV show, he said a great thing he said listen,

1254
01:01:05,360 --> 01:01:10,320
Speaker 5: we will know if something is going on before anyone

1255
01:01:10,720 --> 01:01:13,160
Speaker 5: well know, but just based on the betting patterns of

1256
01:01:13,200 --> 01:01:16,040
Speaker 5: all one way action coming in, certain type of bets

1257
01:01:16,040 --> 01:01:19,560
Speaker 5: coming in. So some of that is injury related, uh

1258
01:01:19,640 --> 01:01:22,640
Speaker 5: sometimes so it just you know, the the real key

1259
01:01:22,680 --> 01:01:25,200
Speaker 5: guys in sports betting do know about this. Now. There's

1260
01:01:25,200 --> 01:01:27,240
Speaker 5: are there's a listen, there's a new thing now because

1261
01:01:27,240 --> 01:01:29,919
Speaker 5: all these sportsbooks are coming to the country. Uh. It's

1262
01:01:29,920 --> 01:01:32,919
Speaker 5: an integrity company called US Integrity run by Matt Holt

1263
01:01:33,240 --> 01:01:35,720
Speaker 5: and I've been friends with Matt for for a dozen years.

1264
01:01:36,760 --> 01:01:40,280
Speaker 5: Their job and their responsibility is to please this kind

1265
01:01:40,280 --> 01:01:42,919
Speaker 5: of thing, monitor this type of thing. They're they're they're

1266
01:01:42,960 --> 01:01:45,200
Speaker 5: also uh you know, partners with a lot of the

1267
01:01:45,680 --> 01:01:48,920
Speaker 5: leagues and the teams and stuff. So it's a step

1268
01:01:48,920 --> 01:01:51,040
Speaker 5: in the right direction. Anyway, let's let's see what happens.

1269
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Speaker 4: Well, that's the thing that I think, like you just said, crack,

1270
01:01:54,120 --> 01:01:57,360
Speaker 4: it's a step in the right direction where I look

1271
01:01:57,400 --> 01:02:00,760
Speaker 4: at it like this, think of player safety. We didn't

1272
01:02:00,800 --> 01:02:03,760
Speaker 4: take all these steps in one off season right where

1273
01:02:03,800 --> 01:02:07,960
Speaker 4: we don't have crackback blocks you don't have you know,

1274
01:02:08,040 --> 01:02:10,480
Speaker 4: you can't land on the quarterback, right like, we didn't

1275
01:02:10,480 --> 01:02:12,280
Speaker 4: do all this in just one off season. It's been

1276
01:02:12,320 --> 01:02:15,000
Speaker 4: a gradual thing. So if you think about that in

1277
01:02:15,080 --> 01:02:19,640
Speaker 4: terms of conferences and their availability reports, this is one

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Speaker 4: major step. And to your point, Jeff, you need more

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Speaker 4: steps to get to where the NFL is, but it

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Speaker 4: is one step, and you might see some follow that.

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Speaker 3: That's certainly fair. It's the beginning of a process that

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Speaker 3: I think has to happen because it really bothers me

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01:02:35,400 --> 01:02:39,520
Speaker 3: when college coaches are not forthright with injuries. But even

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Speaker 3: more so, it bothers me how secretive they are in general.

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Speaker 3: Because I made this pointment, it has a four. I

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01:02:44,760 --> 01:02:49,520
Speaker 3: don't NFL teams have open training camp practices. You get

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Speaker 3: to watch them practice, you get to record their plays

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01:02:52,080 --> 01:02:54,480
Speaker 3: and put them on the internet. And I can't get

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Speaker 3: ten minutes of a reporter watching an organ practice to

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01:02:58,480 --> 01:03:00,680
Speaker 3: give me an update on what's happening. It's so silly

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Speaker 3: to me. Good of the injury stuff. You know, oh

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Speaker 3: he has a leg thing like lower body, Yeah, a

1293
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Speaker 3: lower body injury. He's hurting today. I mean, it's wild

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Speaker 3: to me how they're so secret about these things. The

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Speaker 3: NFL is just not well.

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Speaker 4: There's no secret that Isaac Lohan cron is the man

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Speaker 4: I Low with the latest right here when camp town

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Speaker 4: to kick off? What is going on? Mister Eilow.

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Speaker 6: Already a busy morning in the NFL fellas. NFL media

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Speaker 6: has just reported news of a trade, the New England

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Speaker 6: Patriots acquiring offensive tackle Tyrone Wheatley Junior from the Cleveland

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Speaker 6: Browns in exchange for running back Pierre Strong. NFL media

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Speaker 6: also reporting the Indianapolis Colts have released veteran running back

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Speaker 6: Kenyon Drake. Multiple outlets report the New York Giants releasing

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Speaker 6: running back James Robinson and receiver Jaden Mickens. ESPN reporting

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Speaker 6: Miami Dolphins defensive lineman Zach Steelers agreed to a three

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Speaker 6: year extension where up to thirty eight million dollars with

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Speaker 6: twenty million guaranteed. Dolphin Save receiver Daywood Davis has been

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Speaker 6: released from the hospital after being injured in last night's

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Speaker 6: game at Jacksonville and will return to Miami today. In

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Speaker 6: college football, on Saturday night, Number six USC defeated San

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Speaker 6: Jose State fifty six to twenty eight. USC Heisman Trophy

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Speaker 6: winning quarterback Caleb Williams through for two seventy eight with

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Speaker 6: four touchdown passes now, Fellas, this was actually just a

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Speaker 6: one touchdown game four minutes into the third quarter. So

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Speaker 6: with that in mind, here were some actual comments during

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Speaker 6: that time from Oklahoma message boards, with Oklahoma, of course

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Speaker 6: being the spurned former home of second year USC head

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Speaker 6: coach Lincoln Riley. Extra Russ posting and I quote, I

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Speaker 6: feeling so happy inside that defense and O line will

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Speaker 6: be a liability this year. I feeling so happy. And

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Speaker 6: B B John twelve posting and again I quote, I'm crying.

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Speaker 6: It's been a wonderful day to be a Sooner unquote. Anyway, Finally,

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Speaker 6: ESPN reporting Arizona State expected to self impose a one

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Speaker 6: year bulband for this season amidst an ongoing NCAA investigation

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Speaker 6: into alleged violations under former head coach Herman Edwards. Because

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Speaker 6: after all, you play to win.

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Speaker 4: debut for the Jets yesterday. It was a preseason game,

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Speaker 4: Week three against the Giants. But Rogers played two series

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01:06:08,480 --> 01:06:11,960
Speaker 4: at a nice touchdown throw to Garrett Wilson, offensive rookie

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Speaker 4: of the year last season. And so let's rod out

1342
01:06:15,560 --> 01:06:18,560
Speaker 4: a couple of betting lines here. I was just perusing

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Speaker 4: this before the show. So yardage for Rogers at thirty

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01:06:23,720 --> 01:06:28,440
Speaker 4: nine point fifty and a half touchdowns for the season

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Speaker 4: twenty eight and a half. Now, the thing, like, I

1346
01:06:31,840 --> 01:06:33,360
Speaker 4: don't know about you, guys, twenty eight and a half

1347
01:06:33,360 --> 01:06:35,800
Speaker 4: doesn't sound that high until you look at last season.

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01:06:35,840 --> 01:06:39,840
Speaker 4: You had six quarterbacks in the entire NFL that hit

1349
01:06:40,000 --> 01:06:43,880
Speaker 4: at least twenty nine touchdown passes. Great point, that's Mahomes,

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01:06:43,920 --> 01:06:49,240
Speaker 4: It's Joe Burrow, Josh Allen, Gino Smith, Kirk Cousins, and

1351
01:06:49,360 --> 01:06:52,400
Speaker 4: Jared Goff. That's the list. So what do you guys

1352
01:06:52,400 --> 01:06:54,720
Speaker 4: think twenty eight and a half is the line for

1353
01:06:54,840 --> 01:06:57,840
Speaker 4: Rogers touchdown passes this year, I would.

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Speaker 3: Probably lean over. I think that's what their offense is

1355
01:07:01,480 --> 01:07:03,400
Speaker 3: gonna be, right Breace Hall's coming back from injury. I

1356
01:07:03,400 --> 01:07:05,439
Speaker 3: know they want to run the ball with Davin Cook

1357
01:07:05,520 --> 01:07:08,640
Speaker 3: and that well, But I just I would lean a

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01:07:08,680 --> 01:07:11,920
Speaker 3: little bit over. I actually like Garrett Wilson over eleven

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01:07:12,480 --> 01:07:15,200
Speaker 3: was eleven fifty point five received. I just think he's

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01:07:15,200 --> 01:07:16,960
Speaker 3: gonna lock into Garrett Wilson throw the ball as much

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01:07:16,960 --> 01:07:19,760
Speaker 3: as possible. We've seen throughout his career that Rogers does

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01:07:20,360 --> 01:07:24,080
Speaker 3: really favor that number one wide receiver. But I would

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01:07:24,200 --> 01:07:26,240
Speaker 3: lean slightly over here. I don't like any of those

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Speaker 3: numbers except to Wilson one.

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Speaker 5: You know, under on yardage on Rogers, I kind of

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01:07:34,160 --> 01:07:36,080
Speaker 5: like a little bit. You know, I won't really play

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01:07:36,120 --> 01:07:38,840
Speaker 5: many overs when it comes to season long props. All

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01:07:38,880 --> 01:07:41,200
Speaker 5: it takes is one game or two to be out

1369
01:07:41,320 --> 01:07:44,120
Speaker 5: or to just be injured for a couple series and stuff.

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01:07:44,480 --> 01:07:48,680
Speaker 5: It takes away from that percentage of you're winning your bet.

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01:07:48,960 --> 01:07:52,000
Speaker 5: So I like the under there. I lean towards the

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Speaker 5: under there. But I just want to talk about something

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01:07:55,160 --> 01:07:58,280
Speaker 5: that we never talked about this week. Guys. You know,

1374
01:07:58,320 --> 01:08:00,360
Speaker 5: I sent you guys on maybe ten games something in

1375
01:08:00,360 --> 01:08:03,160
Speaker 5: the past two weeks in preseason. This was almost a

1376
01:08:03,200 --> 01:08:06,360
Speaker 5: common sense one. And you look back at it now.

1377
01:08:06,360 --> 01:08:08,960
Speaker 5: I know it's now it's gonna be called Sunday Morning quarterback.

1378
01:08:09,000 --> 01:08:13,080
Speaker 5: But think about this, since last week we were on

1379
01:08:13,720 --> 01:08:16,120
Speaker 5: I Loo came on and actually I think broke this.

1380
01:08:16,280 --> 01:08:18,639
Speaker 5: That I heard for the first time was last week's show.

1381
01:08:19,520 --> 01:08:22,400
Speaker 5: Jets have announced they're going to play you know, Rogers

1382
01:08:22,439 --> 01:08:23,880
Speaker 5: this week. And I heard it there, and then you

1383
01:08:23,920 --> 01:08:27,160
Speaker 5: heard it all week on all different networks, all different

1384
01:08:27,200 --> 01:08:30,320
Speaker 5: shows across the country, the world TV. Oh my god,

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01:08:30,400 --> 01:08:32,519
Speaker 5: Rogers hasn't played in five years. He's gonna play. He's

1386
01:08:32,520 --> 01:08:35,000
Speaker 5: gonna play, He's gonna play. Well, what happens. The first

1387
01:08:35,000 --> 01:08:38,759
Speaker 5: half line goes from three to five and a half.

1388
01:08:38,840 --> 01:08:42,120
Speaker 5: Everyone says, oh my god, this is unbelievable. This is

1389
01:08:42,200 --> 01:08:44,840
Speaker 5: easy money. It's three to five and a half, you know.

1390
01:08:44,880 --> 01:08:46,400
Speaker 5: And you look at the game and I think the

1391
01:08:46,439 --> 01:08:48,559
Speaker 5: score was fourteen nothing right or we don't right away,

1392
01:08:48,800 --> 01:08:51,080
Speaker 5: and you say, wow, these all the public was right.

1393
01:08:51,120 --> 01:08:54,280
Speaker 5: Everyone's right. This was so easy. Where I say to

1394
01:08:54,320 --> 01:08:57,600
Speaker 5: myself Jesus. Now the final, of course they lost. What

1395
01:08:57,720 --> 01:09:00,400
Speaker 5: was it fourteen thirteen? I got that was the score.

1396
01:09:00,479 --> 01:09:02,080
Speaker 4: No, they scored a little bit more than in the

1397
01:09:02,120 --> 01:09:03,439
Speaker 4: first half. The first half.

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Speaker 5: We're just talking first half, so first half bet they

1399
01:09:08,840 --> 01:09:11,519
Speaker 5: wind up losing. That bet the sports books, by the way,

1400
01:09:12,160 --> 01:09:14,519
Speaker 5: may have been the biggest bet of the week. The

1401
01:09:14,600 --> 01:09:18,880
Speaker 5: sports books booked was first half jets. Everyone loved that.

1402
01:09:19,000 --> 01:09:21,479
Speaker 5: It was all over TV. It was all how can

1403
01:09:21,520 --> 01:09:24,040
Speaker 5: we not how can we not know that? How can

1404
01:09:24,080 --> 01:09:27,639
Speaker 5: we not know that? This was easy money? We never

1405
01:09:27,680 --> 01:09:30,479
Speaker 5: even talked about it, never put it out there. And

1406
01:09:30,960 --> 01:09:33,080
Speaker 5: now listen, it's easy to say that now it's fourteen night.

1407
01:09:33,120 --> 01:09:34,719
Speaker 5: You were saying, oh my god, they were right, we're wrong.

1408
01:09:34,960 --> 01:09:37,559
Speaker 5: But looking at it now, oh my god, that was easy.

1409
01:09:37,800 --> 01:09:39,920
Speaker 5: How could we not have gotten that anyway?

1410
01:09:40,640 --> 01:09:42,880
Speaker 3: Doing it crack, you're not you're not. You don't go

1411
01:09:42,880 --> 01:09:44,960
Speaker 3: with the public man, you're not a public wager.

1412
01:09:45,160 --> 01:09:46,720
Speaker 5: No, but I didn't bet it though, I didn't. I

1413
01:09:46,720 --> 01:09:48,680
Speaker 5: didn't bet it. I didn't bet. I didn't bet the

1414
01:09:49,160 --> 01:09:51,360
Speaker 5: I didn't bet the other way. I really it should

1415
01:09:51,360 --> 01:09:52,720
Speaker 5: have been one of our bets this week was it

1416
01:09:52,760 --> 01:09:54,599
Speaker 5: was betting the other way and we did. Just something

1417
01:09:54,600 --> 01:09:57,280
Speaker 5: to think about. But going back to Bryan's point, as

1418
01:09:57,320 --> 01:10:00,840
Speaker 5: far as the season goes touchdowns, maybe I'll I don't

1419
01:10:00,880 --> 01:10:05,040
Speaker 5: have no real opinion. There definitely under on yard on,

1420
01:10:06,400 --> 01:10:09,519
Speaker 5: not only Rogers, but I can go across the NFL

1421
01:10:09,680 --> 01:10:13,439
Speaker 5: plethora of quarterbacks, running backs, receivers. I like under on,

1422
01:10:13,560 --> 01:10:16,639
Speaker 5: especially the running backs. That's something that I talked about

1423
01:10:16,640 --> 01:10:18,080
Speaker 5: it last week. I gave about six or seven of

1424
01:10:18,080 --> 01:10:21,000
Speaker 5: them on air. I like season. If you're gonna toe

1425
01:10:21,040 --> 01:10:23,360
Speaker 5: up your money for the whole season, you better believe

1426
01:10:23,360 --> 01:10:25,600
Speaker 5: you better have mostly unders in your repertoire.

1427
01:10:25,600 --> 01:10:28,720
Speaker 4: There By the way, nothing worse than if you're on

1428
01:10:28,760 --> 01:10:31,640
Speaker 4: the wrong side of a preseason game. I didn't have

1429
01:10:31,680 --> 01:10:34,799
Speaker 4: the Jets yesterday, but if Tommy DeVito is just dicing

1430
01:10:34,840 --> 01:10:38,160
Speaker 4: you up before halftime, you're like, oh my gosh, this

1431
01:10:38,439 --> 01:10:42,400
Speaker 4: is the worst. Or Will Greer. Will Greer was Mahomes

1432
01:10:42,560 --> 01:10:45,920
Speaker 4: esque yesterday against the Raiders. His stat line was sick.

1433
01:10:46,040 --> 01:10:50,519
Speaker 4: He's nasty. So those are the pitfalls. Can you think

1434
01:10:50,880 --> 01:10:53,559
Speaker 4: crack any of the season long overs that you have

1435
01:10:54,000 --> 01:10:55,080
Speaker 4: quarterbacks running downs?

1436
01:10:55,320 --> 01:10:58,160
Speaker 5: The only over I have is on watching is the

1437
01:10:58,200 --> 01:11:00,719
Speaker 5: only over. And you know what's funny, actually, I haven't

1438
01:11:00,720 --> 01:11:03,639
Speaker 5: in my notes here. I actually did something I don't

1439
01:11:03,680 --> 01:11:08,439
Speaker 5: remember doing ever. I bet Watson over and then it

1440
01:11:08,479 --> 01:11:12,439
Speaker 5: moved up another sixty yards. I went over thirty five

1441
01:11:12,560 --> 01:11:16,639
Speaker 5: hundred yards. Then I went over thirty five sixty about

1442
01:11:16,680 --> 01:11:19,040
Speaker 5: two weeks later. So that's the only over I have

1443
01:11:19,920 --> 01:11:22,639
Speaker 5: is Watson that I can think of, and I'm hoping

1444
01:11:22,640 --> 01:11:25,799
Speaker 5: he just remains healthy and remains out of trouble and stuff.

1445
01:11:26,439 --> 01:11:28,280
Speaker 5: But everything I was like, I'm betting again some real

1446
01:11:28,439 --> 01:11:30,599
Speaker 5: public ones too. I didn't even mention the I think.

1447
01:11:30,800 --> 01:11:32,320
Speaker 5: I don't know if I mentioned the quarterbacks to hear.

1448
01:11:32,600 --> 01:11:35,599
Speaker 5: Even though I like Dallas for the year, I thought

1449
01:11:35,880 --> 01:11:38,920
Speaker 5: forty one hundred yards on Prescott was too much. I

1450
01:11:39,000 --> 01:11:41,679
Speaker 5: thought hurts even though he had a great super Bowl,

1451
01:11:41,800 --> 01:11:45,080
Speaker 5: great year, brand new, beautiful, big contract. I bet under

1452
01:11:45,120 --> 01:11:48,120
Speaker 5: on his thirty seven to fifty. So I bet under

1453
01:11:48,160 --> 01:11:50,160
Speaker 5: on most things. But yeah, you got it out of

1454
01:11:50,160 --> 01:11:51,920
Speaker 5: me there. I did bet over on Watson.

1455
01:11:51,600 --> 01:11:53,320
Speaker 4: So got you on one of them. That's good.

1456
01:11:53,400 --> 01:11:54,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's good.

1457
01:11:54,439 --> 01:11:56,160
Speaker 4: I'll Jeff, it's like.

1458
01:11:56,360 --> 01:11:58,920
Speaker 3: Four quarterback overs this year. They passing yards.

1459
01:11:59,240 --> 01:11:59,960
Speaker 4: Can you remember him?

1460
01:12:00,280 --> 01:12:03,000
Speaker 3: Yeah? So I did. Trevor Lawrence was at four thousand

1461
01:12:03,560 --> 01:12:05,920
Speaker 3: that's too low for Trevor Lawrence. Can't you Pickott was

1462
01:12:05,960 --> 01:12:07,760
Speaker 3: only thirty three hundred. I think, can't you Picktt's have

1463
01:12:07,800 --> 01:12:10,400
Speaker 3: a great season this year? And I think Herbert and

1464
01:12:10,479 --> 01:12:14,040
Speaker 3: I took Herbert and Mahomesomes. Mahomes number was like four

1465
01:12:14,080 --> 01:12:15,400
Speaker 3: hundred less than he had last season.

1466
01:12:15,400 --> 01:12:18,080
Speaker 5: I was like, I'm high on Pickett this year too.

1467
01:12:18,120 --> 01:12:20,559
Speaker 5: I didn't bet that that. That sounds like an interesting

1468
01:12:20,640 --> 01:12:23,880
Speaker 5: bet though. I'm high on the Picket and the Steelers there,

1469
01:12:23,920 --> 01:12:26,120
Speaker 5: So you're right, that's another wise guy picked this week.

1470
01:12:26,160 --> 01:12:29,760
Speaker 5: That why a podcast gave out this is Steelers to

1471
01:12:29,800 --> 01:12:32,960
Speaker 5: win the division? Come on? But yeah, there was like

1472
01:12:32,960 --> 01:12:37,519
Speaker 5: a really long odds obviously, But it's just the wise

1473
01:12:37,520 --> 01:12:39,559
Speaker 5: guys are on all these teams. Like I said, I

1474
01:12:39,560 --> 01:12:41,720
Speaker 5: don't know who's gonna lose Arizona, anyone else having a

1475
01:12:41,800 --> 01:12:42,840
Speaker 5: losing record, I don't think so.

1476
01:12:43,280 --> 01:12:46,320
Speaker 4: I know everybody's got a winning record before the season starts.

1477
01:12:46,680 --> 01:12:48,360
Speaker 4: You know, it's funny, that's gotta be a nice little

1478
01:12:48,400 --> 01:12:50,800
Speaker 4: ego boost for you, Crack when you bet something in

1479
01:12:50,840 --> 01:12:54,759
Speaker 4: the line moves dramatically. Sometimes it works the opposite for us, Jeff,

1480
01:12:55,160 --> 01:12:58,519
Speaker 4: where we're betting so little it's like we're gonna take

1481
01:12:58,520 --> 01:13:02,080
Speaker 4: the over Trevor Lawrence passing yardage for the season. And

1482
01:13:02,080 --> 01:13:04,400
Speaker 4: you look again, it's like, God goodness, it's one hundred

1483
01:13:04,479 --> 01:13:07,240
Speaker 4: yards less than when I got it. What's up with that?

1484
01:13:07,640 --> 01:13:09,360
Speaker 5: You know, guys now that now that you say it,

1485
01:13:09,360 --> 01:13:11,600
Speaker 5: though you guys do we never talked about this. You

1486
01:13:11,640 --> 01:13:15,439
Speaker 5: guys do realize When I'm typing capital letters, that means

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Speaker 5: go like g o capital it means go like go

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Speaker 5: now like because.

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Speaker 3: I I'm aware I dropped everything I do. Everyone's stopping crap.

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Speaker 3: I'm going to my I'm doing it right now, doing go.

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Speaker 3: I get it.

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Speaker 4: I've been so tempted to do that on the group

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Speaker 4: chat just to see if it works. Oh go do

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Speaker 4: it out there, go now do it capital letters, just

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Speaker 4: to see if it works. I'm gonna try it one time.

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Speaker 5: All right.

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Speaker 4: that was so honey.

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Speaker 3: When when the lady pretended to the table for her husband. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: that was very funny.

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Speaker 5: I forgot we were in like an old fashioned house there.

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Speaker 4: Mary Mahoney's like a French restaurant.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: We need to do remote this year and I can't

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Speaker 3: wait for remotes and be fun.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely will be. I'm probbing to Vegas.

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Speaker 5: You guys are coming to Vegas.

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Speaker 2: You know that.

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Speaker 3: I'm for Super Bowl. I'm there for the week.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, oh cool, we have to be going there nice.

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Speaker 4: Maybe a couple of times. Who knows multiples of five week,

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Speaker 4: very nice doctor. Yeah, great song right there. How about this, Jeff,

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Speaker 4: you mentioned this We filled in for two Bros and

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Speaker 4: a Cup of Joe this week, and you were talking

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Speaker 4: about the running clock in college football's rule change. After

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Speaker 4: first downs, it doesn't stop except for the final two

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01:15:36,280 --> 01:15:39,919
Speaker 4: minutes of each half, and you're already seeing a dramatic

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Speaker 4: effect where it is running, running, running, running except for

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Speaker 4: four minutes in the game. So you're seeing some of

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Speaker 4: the totals. They're lower point totals as far as the

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Speaker 4: betting line goes, because it is making an impact.

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Speaker 3: The NFL games yesterday, I mean that that's fine. That's

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01:15:56,840 --> 01:15:58,920
Speaker 3: what NFL games are, you know, minus obviously the last

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01:15:58,920 --> 01:16:00,760
Speaker 3: two minutes. But some of those games yesterday were not

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01:16:01,160 --> 01:16:03,200
Speaker 3: in a position where the last two minutes mattered, right,

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01:16:03,240 --> 01:16:04,560
Speaker 3: you know, they were just kneeling the ball out or

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01:16:04,600 --> 01:16:07,920
Speaker 3: running the clock out. The games went faster yesterday. I

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01:16:07,960 --> 01:16:10,240
Speaker 3: mean the Notre Dame opening drive was thirteen plays and

1546
01:16:10,280 --> 01:16:14,080
Speaker 3: took eight minutes. That's this NFL game. That's fine, but

1547
01:16:14,120 --> 01:16:16,960
Speaker 3: no one was asking for less plays. I love the

1548
01:16:17,000 --> 01:16:19,240
Speaker 3: part too that the halftime is still twenty minutes long,

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01:16:19,760 --> 01:16:22,439
Speaker 3: like you want to show in the game. Up go

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01:16:22,600 --> 01:16:26,320
Speaker 3: fifteen minute halftime like everyone else does. So I crack.

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01:16:26,479 --> 01:16:29,439
Speaker 3: I was told that sportsbooks were adjusting it by five

1552
01:16:29,479 --> 01:16:33,439
Speaker 3: percent on the totals. I think yesterday that was the number.

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01:16:34,080 --> 01:16:37,080
Speaker 3: Every game went under one right, the USC game, I

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01:16:37,080 --> 01:16:39,080
Speaker 3: think was only one that went over yesterday. Maybe New

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01:16:39,160 --> 01:16:39,679
Speaker 3: Mexico State.

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Speaker 5: Oh, there was a couple of games that went over.

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01:16:41,479 --> 01:16:44,960
Speaker 3: The MESS game went over, right, there was so two

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01:16:45,000 --> 01:16:46,879
Speaker 3: games of seven went over. I think yesterday.

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Speaker 5: You know, but you know you're right, and five percent

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01:16:51,120 --> 01:16:54,000
Speaker 5: is the number because I know a real sharp guy

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Speaker 5: that I do respect, and he Vanilla w under all

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01:16:57,560 --> 01:16:59,880
Speaker 5: of the games and he said there about two to

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01:16:59,880 --> 01:17:06,200
Speaker 5: two and a half points probably of value. I'm betting

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01:17:06,280 --> 01:17:09,559
Speaker 5: the unders. I don't know if I so much believe that,

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01:17:10,120 --> 01:17:13,519
Speaker 5: because I would think from all my years betting sports

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01:17:14,320 --> 01:17:18,120
Speaker 5: and betting something that's publicly viewed, especially this first week.

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01:17:18,280 --> 01:17:21,840
Speaker 5: Remember these lines were up months ago, so this is

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01:17:21,880 --> 01:17:24,640
Speaker 5: not like Week two or Week three. These lines have

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01:17:24,680 --> 01:17:27,960
Speaker 5: been up for a long time. I think that this

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01:17:28,400 --> 01:17:31,599
Speaker 5: factor is baked into the line already, and maybe they

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01:17:31,680 --> 01:17:34,240
Speaker 5: just ran like that and this is going. Like I said, again,

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Speaker 5: we'll see what happens here in the next couple of

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01:17:36,840 --> 01:17:39,760
Speaker 5: weeks Week two, Week three, Week four. But for week one,

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01:17:40,120 --> 01:17:42,760
Speaker 5: when these lines were publicly available to bet for, some

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01:17:42,840 --> 01:17:45,080
Speaker 5: of the places have been available for four months, So

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01:17:45,880 --> 01:17:48,080
Speaker 5: we'll see, We'll see what happens going forward. I'm not

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01:17:48,400 --> 01:17:51,840
Speaker 5: just blindly betting unders on something that I think that

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01:17:52,439 --> 01:17:54,640
Speaker 5: the sportsbooks probably have a grasp.

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Speaker 4: Of no doubt, absolutely no doubt. I think it's something

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01:17:57,000 --> 01:17:59,559
Speaker 4: to keep in mind when we're talking about in game betting, though,

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01:18:00,080 --> 01:18:02,200
Speaker 4: when you're trying to come back and it's the fourth

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01:18:02,240 --> 01:18:04,560
Speaker 4: quarter and you're down double digits, it's not going to

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01:18:04,640 --> 01:18:05,599
Speaker 4: be nearly as easy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, correct. Do you how many waiters do you have

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01:18:08,200 --> 01:18:10,080
Speaker 3: locked in for Week one? Next week?

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Speaker 5: Not what you think? Not what you think. I got

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01:18:12,479 --> 01:18:15,960
Speaker 5: a couple of totals, a few sides. You know, I

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01:18:15,960 --> 01:18:18,080
Speaker 5: don't do a lot of side betting, guys, but I

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01:18:18,120 --> 01:18:20,800
Speaker 5: think situations that I like I seen Green Bay when

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01:18:20,840 --> 01:18:22,920
Speaker 5: I was in New Jersey. I seen green Bay plus

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01:18:22,960 --> 01:18:25,320
Speaker 5: three minus oh five. I took that line. You know,

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Speaker 5: I still don't know. I'm gonna put my odd screen now.

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Speaker 5: At the time it was a good it was a

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01:18:28,840 --> 01:18:31,599
Speaker 5: good bet. But I just bet based on the line.

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01:18:32,720 --> 01:18:34,559
Speaker 5: But there is a couple bets that I did make,

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Speaker 5: mostly totals, and you know, throughout the season, guys, that's

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Speaker 5: what I like to bet on. I like the bet

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Speaker 5: on totals, So you know, totals and the props is

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Speaker 5: my thing where you make money. And I know it's

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Speaker 5: very hard to make money betting sides. So Green Bay

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Speaker 5: one and a half two.

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Speaker 4: Do you shower with the odds screen?

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01:18:50,880 --> 01:18:53,479
Speaker 5: The odd screens? Yeah, the odd screen is my life.

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01:18:53,720 --> 01:18:56,000
Speaker 5: I have to have it everywhere. Very good, Very good.

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Speaker 4: Oh, good morning everybody. Hope your Sunday is going fantastically.

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Speaker 4: new one. Okay, fellas, So we've got Josh Jacobs back

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Speaker 4: with the Raids and we've got the unknown of Colts

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Speaker 4: running back Jonathan Taylor. So, first off, Jacobs, he's back

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01:20:26,920 --> 01:20:29,160
Speaker 4: on a reworked one year deal could be worth up

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01:20:29,200 --> 01:20:32,880
Speaker 4: to twelve million dollars and we're waiting. There was a

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Speaker 4: Colts deadline of Tuesday. That's how long Jonathan Taylor has

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Speaker 4: to work out a deal. I don't think that's exactly firm.

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Speaker 4: If he's still on the roster and someone blows their

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Speaker 4: socks off with an offer. I don't think they're gonna

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Speaker 4: be like Deadline's past. But what do you think about

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Speaker 4: j C? Do you think he stays with the Colts

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Speaker 4: or do you think he's elsewhere? I think he's elsewhere,

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01:20:56,520 --> 01:20:59,760
Speaker 4: but some people see him staying with the horseshoe over there.

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01:21:00,000 --> 01:21:02,200
Speaker 4: Do you guys think if.

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Speaker 3: Someone had an opportunity to trade for him, they would

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01:21:03,880 --> 01:21:06,160
Speaker 3: have already done it in my opinion, or they're going

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01:21:06,200 --> 01:21:08,160
Speaker 3: to trade for him for less value than the Colts

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01:21:08,240 --> 01:21:10,360
Speaker 3: really want. Right if you're the Dolphins and you say, hey,

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01:21:10,360 --> 01:21:12,680
Speaker 3: I want Jonathan Taylor, We're just gonna give you this

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01:21:12,720 --> 01:21:14,280
Speaker 3: price that we don't get him, it doesn't. It doesn't

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01:21:14,280 --> 01:21:17,400
Speaker 3: make or break the Dolphins season. Really doesn't. If it'd

1647
01:21:17,439 --> 01:21:19,559
Speaker 3: be great if they got him, but it doesn't my opinion.

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01:21:19,600 --> 01:21:21,720
Speaker 3: Changed outlook for the season depends on whether two is

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01:21:21,720 --> 01:21:24,479
Speaker 3: able to stay healthy or not, and if Fango doing

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01:21:24,600 --> 01:21:27,599
Speaker 3: doing the work. So I don't think he goes here

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01:21:27,640 --> 01:21:29,240
Speaker 3: where Brian, because I feel like he could have already

1652
01:21:29,280 --> 01:21:32,120
Speaker 3: gone somewhere. Like just because you say someone's not tradable

1653
01:21:32,520 --> 01:21:34,760
Speaker 3: doesn't mean that you can't call him off for a deal.

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01:21:34,800 --> 01:21:36,800
Speaker 3: And if there's a deal to be had. I believe

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01:21:36,840 --> 01:21:38,360
Speaker 3: it would have already happened. I think he plays for

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01:21:38,400 --> 01:21:41,320
Speaker 3: the Colts and then next year he's on to free agency.

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01:21:41,880 --> 01:21:43,960
Speaker 5: What happens, Jeff when when they're out, when he's out

1658
01:21:43,960 --> 01:21:46,960
Speaker 5: there on the field with those guys, what's the sentiment,

1659
01:21:47,040 --> 01:21:50,000
Speaker 5: what's the feeling in the locker rooms and stuff? And nothing?

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01:21:50,120 --> 01:21:52,080
Speaker 5: Not a big no, big deal, like.

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01:21:52,200 --> 01:21:54,880
Speaker 3: Because everyone everyone, everyone wants their buddies to get paid.

1662
01:21:54,880 --> 01:21:56,719
Speaker 3: I think they're gonna look at it as like, we're rooting

1663
01:21:56,760 --> 01:21:58,160
Speaker 3: for you, man, we're rooting for you. I think that

1664
01:21:59,120 --> 01:22:03,840
Speaker 3: er say, being so public about it actually has more

1665
01:22:03,840 --> 01:22:07,320
Speaker 3: of effective locker room than it does Jonvin Taylor's requests

1666
01:22:07,320 --> 01:22:10,040
Speaker 3: to get more money. I mean, Ersa just can't help himself.

1667
01:22:10,080 --> 01:22:13,160
Speaker 3: Man continues to talk about this out there. Hurts me,

1668
01:22:13,920 --> 01:22:15,200
Speaker 3: but that hurts him, whan anything else.

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Speaker 4: That's the thing to me, guys, is the raiders. Mark

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01:22:18,960 --> 01:22:22,839
Speaker 4: Davis didn't put all this stuff out like Jim irsay,

1671
01:22:22,960 --> 01:22:26,000
Speaker 4: did you know Mark Davis isn't tweeting, Hey we got

1672
01:22:26,000 --> 01:22:28,679
Speaker 4: a CBA, shut up running backs, You're not getting any

1673
01:22:28,680 --> 01:22:31,400
Speaker 4: more money. Effectively, that's what he put out there. Mark

1674
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Speaker 4: Davis isn't saying, hey, when I die and when Josh

1675
01:22:34,000 --> 01:22:35,960
Speaker 4: Jacobs is out of the league, no one's gonna care.

1676
01:22:36,320 --> 01:22:38,519
Speaker 4: No one's gonna miss us at all. Like Jim Irsay

1677
01:22:38,600 --> 01:22:40,360
Speaker 4: is the guy who put all that stuff out there.

1678
01:22:40,439 --> 01:22:42,840
Speaker 4: So I know they don't get a first round pick

1679
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Speaker 4: for Jonathan Taylor. That's just not what the market is.

1680
01:22:45,760 --> 01:22:48,599
Speaker 4: But the question is did the Colts put the asking

1681
01:22:48,640 --> 01:22:53,559
Speaker 4: price so high in an effort to keith Jonathan Taylor

1682
01:22:54,120 --> 01:22:56,280
Speaker 4: or are they willing to come down a little bit

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01:22:56,560 --> 01:22:59,960
Speaker 4: and move on just because it's gotten so ugly, most

1684
01:23:00,240 --> 01:23:03,000
Speaker 4: because of Jim Mersey sticking his foot in his mouth repeatedly.

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Speaker 3: It really comes down to I think what Ersay wants

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01:23:07,640 --> 01:23:10,559
Speaker 3: to do. If Ersay says, hey, we need to get

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01:23:10,640 --> 01:23:12,280
Speaker 3: rid of him, and I think Chris Baller will find

1688
01:23:12,320 --> 01:23:14,559
Speaker 3: the best deal possible move on. If Ersay says, let's

1689
01:23:14,640 --> 01:23:17,160
Speaker 3: keep him unless you get what you want, that, I

1690
01:23:17,160 --> 01:23:18,680
Speaker 3: think he stays. I think it's that simple, right. I

1691
01:23:18,720 --> 01:23:21,599
Speaker 3: think Ballard wants him to stay. He's a good football player.

1692
01:23:21,640 --> 01:23:23,880
Speaker 3: You want as many the football players as possible. He's

1693
01:23:23,960 --> 01:23:26,599
Speaker 3: under contract, so you don't have to do anything about that.

1694
01:23:27,040 --> 01:23:29,040
Speaker 3: But again, if someone offers you a third round pick

1695
01:23:29,120 --> 01:23:30,600
Speaker 3: or are you taking it or a you're waiting for

1696
01:23:30,600 --> 01:23:33,000
Speaker 3: that first round pick. I think they're taking the best

1697
01:23:33,000 --> 01:23:34,280
Speaker 3: deal they can get and moving along.

1698
01:23:35,200 --> 01:23:37,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think you're right. And that's the crazy thing

1699
01:23:37,840 --> 01:23:42,040
Speaker 4: is think about Chris Ballard trying to make this work.

1700
01:23:42,080 --> 01:23:46,080
Speaker 4: You've got a rookie quarterback in Anthony Richardson, and meanwhile

1701
01:23:46,120 --> 01:23:48,680
Speaker 4: Jim Mersey is making it way more difficult than it

1702
01:23:48,760 --> 01:23:51,439
Speaker 4: needs to be. Yes, with your running back Jonathan Taylor.

1703
01:23:51,479 --> 01:23:54,120
Speaker 4: That would help Anthony Richardson out a ton in his

1704
01:23:54,240 --> 01:23:57,280
Speaker 4: rookie season, and Ballard's just like I could just picture

1705
01:23:57,280 --> 01:24:02,679
Speaker 4: someone saying Ersay tweeted again and like, no, are you serious? Really,

1706
01:24:02,960 --> 01:24:05,800
Speaker 4: it's making life way more difficult for the GM.

1707
01:24:05,800 --> 01:24:09,400
Speaker 5: Here, one of those polarizing guys. He was here with this,

1708
01:24:09,560 --> 01:24:10,840
Speaker 5: you know. I'm sure you guys know he has a

1709
01:24:10,840 --> 01:24:14,360
Speaker 5: band and and he has the collectibles and he tours

1710
01:24:14,360 --> 01:24:16,840
Speaker 5: with these. I mean, he's out there. He's out there.

1711
01:24:16,880 --> 01:24:19,559
Speaker 5: So he likes to see himself in the in the

1712
01:24:19,600 --> 01:24:21,880
Speaker 5: press and the public and and uh, he likes to

1713
01:24:21,880 --> 01:24:23,320
Speaker 5: get involved in these type of things.

1714
01:24:25,400 --> 01:24:27,840
Speaker 3: You and Bala has like alerts on his phone from

1715
01:24:27,840 --> 01:24:29,720
Speaker 3: an tweets night.

1716
01:24:31,800 --> 01:24:34,759
Speaker 4: I can't block him anymore serious, Twitter, come.

1717
01:24:34,640 --> 01:24:38,439
Speaker 3: On the block. I forgot about that. It's yeah again,

1718
01:24:38,479 --> 01:24:41,360
Speaker 3: it comes down to if the owner wants him there

1719
01:24:41,400 --> 01:24:43,360
Speaker 3: and not. I feel like, right, if the owner says

1720
01:24:44,240 --> 01:24:47,200
Speaker 3: we're we're good, they'll keep him. If he says I

1721
01:24:47,200 --> 01:24:48,599
Speaker 3: want him gone, they'll get rid of him and they'll

1722
01:24:48,640 --> 01:24:50,559
Speaker 3: suck it up. Have to take what deal they can get.

1723
01:24:50,840 --> 01:24:53,160
Speaker 4: By the way, how about this too, guys, the Raiders

1724
01:24:53,200 --> 01:24:55,760
Speaker 4: they jumped up. Make sure you're sitting down for this

1725
01:24:55,840 --> 01:24:58,760
Speaker 4: crack right. Everybody's been taking the over apparently, but the

1726
01:24:58,840 --> 01:25:01,639
Speaker 4: Raiders jumped up to six and a half wins. That's

1727
01:25:01,680 --> 01:25:04,639
Speaker 4: exactly where the Colts are to Their season win total

1728
01:25:04,920 --> 01:25:06,960
Speaker 4: is exactly the same. Colts and Raiders at six and

1729
01:25:07,040 --> 01:25:07,439
Speaker 4: a half.

1730
01:25:07,840 --> 01:25:10,080
Speaker 5: Seems so easy to win seven games. I mean I

1731
01:25:10,200 --> 01:25:12,479
Speaker 5: actually seen over six and a half plus a dollar

1732
01:25:12,520 --> 01:25:15,439
Speaker 5: eighteen and was tempted by that. I take the under

1733
01:25:15,479 --> 01:25:17,600
Speaker 5: on both take me on the eye. I didn't bet it,

1734
01:25:17,600 --> 01:25:20,320
Speaker 5: but it just seems like seven games, got I mean,

1735
01:25:20,400 --> 01:25:22,760
Speaker 5: can't just just by luck you could win seven games?

1736
01:25:22,800 --> 01:25:26,639
Speaker 5: You would think here even with the Raiders though, but yeah,

1737
01:25:26,680 --> 01:25:29,479
Speaker 5: that that's uh, They're they're both teams. Now you're talking

1738
01:25:29,479 --> 01:25:32,240
Speaker 5: about some teams. I haven't really heard too much on

1739
01:25:32,280 --> 01:25:34,960
Speaker 5: the Colts, but the Raiders is amongst those teams that

1740
01:25:35,000 --> 01:25:37,160
Speaker 5: people think that it's a little bit to the Sharper.

1741
01:25:37,160 --> 01:25:39,040
Speaker 5: Guys think that it's a little bit too low. Again,

1742
01:25:39,320 --> 01:25:41,400
Speaker 5: there has to be some losers and Jeff, you could

1743
01:25:41,400 --> 01:25:41,760
Speaker 5: be right.

1744
01:25:42,120 --> 01:25:44,600
Speaker 3: What what about the Raiders? Has people excited for the

1745
01:25:44,680 --> 01:25:45,280
Speaker 3: Raiders of season?

1746
01:25:45,400 --> 01:25:47,720
Speaker 5: Yeah? Yeah, yeah, I don't.

1747
01:25:47,800 --> 01:25:52,080
Speaker 3: I don't understand. They know you're right, You're right, Adams, congratulations?

1748
01:25:52,439 --> 01:25:52,639
Speaker 5: Good?

1749
01:25:52,640 --> 01:25:54,280
Speaker 3: Do you have people to block for your quarterback?

1750
01:25:55,439 --> 01:25:56,720
Speaker 4: You pay there?

1751
01:25:56,800 --> 01:25:57,040
Speaker 5: You know?

1752
01:25:57,600 --> 01:26:01,120
Speaker 3: Besides, I guess Wilson maybe he's good this year like

1753
01:26:01,439 --> 01:26:04,639
Speaker 3: anyone else on defense? Did you like, I don't understand

1754
01:26:05,439 --> 01:26:07,680
Speaker 3: why there's there's love for them.

1755
01:26:08,720 --> 01:26:10,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's I get it.

1756
01:26:10,200 --> 01:26:11,880
Speaker 5: You have it. I didn't bet it. I didn't bet it.

1757
01:26:11,920 --> 01:26:13,800
Speaker 5: I just heard it on one of my three or

1758
01:26:13,800 --> 01:26:16,160
Speaker 5: four podcasts. I tell you listen to it. I was

1759
01:26:16,200 --> 01:26:19,320
Speaker 5: pretty surprised to hear the over being given out there

1760
01:26:19,400 --> 01:26:21,519
Speaker 5: as a Sharper play. I didn't jump on it.

1761
01:26:21,680 --> 01:26:24,680
Speaker 4: So I'll tell you what, man Chandler Jones gonna have

1762
01:26:24,720 --> 01:26:26,559
Speaker 4: to do a whole lot more than he did last season.

1763
01:26:27,200 --> 01:26:30,719
Speaker 4: And they drafted Tyree Wilson out of Texas Tech seventh overall,

1764
01:26:30,800 --> 01:26:33,800
Speaker 4: so opposite Max Crosby. If one of those two guys,

1765
01:26:33,880 --> 01:26:36,200
Speaker 4: Jones or Wilson, if they're any good, that's gonna help

1766
01:26:36,240 --> 01:26:38,599
Speaker 4: out your secondary quite a bit. I just looking at

1767
01:26:38,680 --> 01:26:42,360
Speaker 4: the records last season, there were seven teams that did

1768
01:26:42,360 --> 01:26:47,680
Speaker 4: not reach seven wins last season, So that was the Bears, obviously,

1769
01:26:48,120 --> 01:26:54,360
Speaker 4: in no certain order, Texans Colts also had the Arizona Cardinals, Rams, Broncos,

1770
01:26:54,720 --> 01:26:57,760
Speaker 4: and Raidas they did not reach seven wins.

1771
01:26:57,800 --> 01:26:59,800
Speaker 5: Bears and Broncos, by the way, also was on that

1772
01:26:59,880 --> 01:27:02,200
Speaker 5: line list of unders, so I shouldn't just say overs.

1773
01:27:02,400 --> 01:27:05,360
Speaker 5: That's also on the underlist. But that seems like almost

1774
01:27:05,800 --> 01:27:09,679
Speaker 5: like almost common knowledge that these two teams. Well then again,

1775
01:27:09,720 --> 01:27:12,120
Speaker 5: there is some talk about Wilson being better over there,

1776
01:27:12,120 --> 01:27:14,519
Speaker 5: but I mean they you know, they're they're the teams

1777
01:27:14,520 --> 01:27:17,320
Speaker 5: that are the wise guys. That's three teams unders I

1778
01:27:17,439 --> 01:27:20,040
Speaker 5: named there for the year. Everything else is over though,

1779
01:27:20,120 --> 01:27:21,519
Speaker 5: So here we go, guys.

1780
01:27:21,800 --> 01:27:22,760
Speaker 4: That's the crazy part.

1781
01:27:22,800 --> 01:27:22,960
Speaker 2: Man.

1782
01:27:23,000 --> 01:27:26,040
Speaker 4: I'm still trying to spot the shocker. Where if you

1783
01:27:26,160 --> 01:27:27,640
Speaker 4: told me before the season.

1784
01:27:27,360 --> 01:27:29,200
Speaker 5: With Jacksonville, right yeah, right.

1785
01:27:29,160 --> 01:27:33,479
Speaker 4: Like that, the Rams and the Broncos. Yeah, wouldn't reach

1786
01:27:34,640 --> 01:27:38,000
Speaker 4: six wins. They both were five and twelve. I never

1787
01:27:38,000 --> 01:27:40,759
Speaker 4: would have believed the Rams were coming off a super Bowl.

1788
01:27:41,120 --> 01:27:42,720
Speaker 5: It's unbelievable triumph.

1789
01:27:42,840 --> 01:27:47,240
Speaker 4: The Broncos landed Russell Wilson in this blockbuster trade. They

1790
01:27:47,560 --> 01:27:51,040
Speaker 4: combined to win ten games, like they barely made the

1791
01:27:51,040 --> 01:27:53,400
Speaker 4: playoffs together. If you combine their win There's.

1792
01:27:53,240 --> 01:27:56,559
Speaker 5: Probably never been a Super Bowl team that came back

1793
01:27:56,600 --> 01:27:58,559
Speaker 5: the next season and did that bad. I don't think

1794
01:27:58,600 --> 01:27:59,160
Speaker 5: so anyway.

1795
01:27:59,360 --> 01:28:02,360
Speaker 3: But a Super Bowl losing team or winning team.

1796
01:28:02,520 --> 01:28:05,680
Speaker 5: Well, I'm saying you're right to be a winning team

1797
01:28:05,840 --> 01:28:09,960
Speaker 5: winning the Super Bowl. I don't. Yeah, like maybe the Jets.

1798
01:28:09,600 --> 01:28:12,320
Speaker 3: Most most often the losing team has a down year.

1799
01:28:12,479 --> 01:28:15,960
Speaker 3: The winning team typically doesn't have the The Rams. We

1800
01:28:16,040 --> 01:28:18,960
Speaker 3: have an interesting team right, very top heavy, gonna play

1801
01:28:18,960 --> 01:28:21,479
Speaker 3: a ton of young guys. It feels like they're over

1802
01:28:21,520 --> 01:28:23,280
Speaker 3: a sharp too crack. A lot of people taking the

1803
01:28:23,400 --> 01:28:23,920
Speaker 3: Rams over.

1804
01:28:26,920 --> 01:28:27,120
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1805
01:28:27,200 --> 01:28:30,680
Speaker 3: But but Brian, you know I'm gonna do this is

1806
01:28:30,760 --> 01:28:32,360
Speaker 3: my podcast. I'm gonna do this right right now for

1807
01:28:32,360 --> 01:28:35,880
Speaker 3: you guys. I'm gonna read you, guys the Rams defensive

1808
01:28:35,880 --> 01:28:39,000
Speaker 3: depth chart. Okay, just just just the starting, the starting

1809
01:28:40,520 --> 01:28:44,240
Speaker 3: and you're you know, you're you know, we we you're ready. Okay. Yeah,

1810
01:28:44,280 --> 01:28:50,280
Speaker 3: So defensive end, uh, Marquise Copeland, Bobby Brown the third

1811
01:28:50,439 --> 01:28:53,719
Speaker 3: defensive tackle, then Aaron Donald of course, great Byron Young,

1812
01:28:53,880 --> 01:28:57,280
Speaker 3: their third round pick from this past season, Ernest Jones,

1813
01:28:57,920 --> 01:29:04,040
Speaker 3: Christian rose Boom, Michael heck A, Kia Weatherspoon, Jordan Fuller,

1814
01:29:04,520 --> 01:29:12,160
Speaker 3: John Johnson the third, Darrin Kendrick, and Kobe Durant.

1815
01:29:11,880 --> 01:29:14,240
Speaker 4: With the Browns or who's there like that John Johnson

1816
01:29:14,320 --> 01:29:15,200
Speaker 4: he's gone, he's.

1817
01:29:15,000 --> 01:29:20,240
Speaker 3: Back with the Rams. Yeah, he went back. The Browns

1818
01:29:20,240 --> 01:29:24,960
Speaker 3: cut him in February. So uh yeah, So like is

1819
01:29:24,960 --> 01:29:27,640
Speaker 3: that is that like a it's a game? Is that

1820
01:29:27,720 --> 01:29:31,400
Speaker 3: a defense? You're like, oh man, we got some dudes.

1821
01:29:31,479 --> 01:29:34,160
Speaker 3: We got a dude, Hall of Famer Dude Donald, But

1822
01:29:34,280 --> 01:29:37,360
Speaker 3: like they don't have a lot of the they're very

1823
01:29:37,400 --> 01:29:45,479
Speaker 3: top heavy, right Stafford cup Donald. Yeah, Yeah, I don't know, man.

1824
01:29:46,000 --> 01:29:48,880
Speaker 3: I think McVeigh is a fabulous coach, but they got

1825
01:29:48,920 --> 01:29:53,439
Speaker 3: a lot of unproven guys on multiple sides of the ball.

1826
01:29:55,120 --> 01:29:59,439
Speaker 4: Yeah, they do, There's no doubt about that. But hey man,

1827
01:29:59,439 --> 01:30:03,679
Speaker 4: we're just talking about getting to what seven wins, seven and.

1828
01:30:03,600 --> 01:30:05,479
Speaker 5: Ten, That's what I was just checking as a six

1829
01:30:05,520 --> 01:30:07,439
Speaker 5: and a half flat six and a half.

1830
01:30:08,200 --> 01:30:10,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I can't tell you if it's flat. I

1831
01:30:10,760 --> 01:30:12,639
Speaker 4: don't know where the helps is six and a half. Yeah,

1832
01:30:12,720 --> 01:30:15,000
Speaker 4: yeah it's fake. But yeah, six and a half. But

1833
01:30:15,080 --> 01:30:18,040
Speaker 4: I just think to last year, Jeff and crack right, like,

1834
01:30:18,360 --> 01:30:21,320
Speaker 4: think about the injuries. I know they don't have great depth.

1835
01:30:21,400 --> 01:30:23,840
Speaker 4: We get it from the FMPIS era. They don't have

1836
01:30:23,880 --> 01:30:27,160
Speaker 4: great depth, but the top end talent. You at least

1837
01:30:27,200 --> 01:30:29,519
Speaker 4: have to have your top end talent be healthy, and

1838
01:30:29,560 --> 01:30:32,960
Speaker 4: they were unhealthy for half the year. And the numbers

1839
01:30:33,000 --> 01:30:35,479
Speaker 4: that Cup put up, it was sick. I'd go back

1840
01:30:35,479 --> 01:30:38,519
Speaker 4: and look, but it's like eight games. He put up

1841
01:30:38,640 --> 01:30:42,080
Speaker 4: numbers that are legit like season numbers for some of

1842
01:30:42,600 --> 01:30:47,000
Speaker 4: decent wide receivers. So to have Stafford Cup and Aaron

1843
01:30:47,080 --> 01:30:50,280
Speaker 4: Donald all banged up and you got to five wins

1844
01:30:50,360 --> 01:30:52,720
Speaker 4: if you're blessed with better health, I don't see how

1845
01:30:52,720 --> 01:30:55,160
Speaker 4: you don't get to seven wins. It's not a loaded

1846
01:30:55,200 --> 01:30:56,040
Speaker 4: conference at all.

1847
01:30:56,880 --> 01:30:59,519
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm seeing six and a half over even and

1848
01:30:59,720 --> 01:31:03,759
Speaker 5: six over forty, So you know that's six over forty

1849
01:31:03,840 --> 01:31:07,040
Speaker 5: is interesting. You know. I love when you can scroll

1850
01:31:07,920 --> 01:31:09,719
Speaker 5: and find alternate win totals.

1851
01:31:09,920 --> 01:31:11,160
Speaker 4: I love that, and I do too.

1852
01:31:11,360 --> 01:31:14,800
Speaker 5: It's so it's five and a half over seventy. Like, God,

1853
01:31:14,840 --> 01:31:17,960
Speaker 5: there's some really interesting lines out there with these. I know,

1854
01:31:18,360 --> 01:31:20,360
Speaker 5: I hate to say this because it sounds so square.

1855
01:31:21,439 --> 01:31:25,480
Speaker 5: Some of those alternate lines look so easy, My god,

1856
01:31:25,640 --> 01:31:28,200
Speaker 5: some of the alternate win totals. Jesus, I hate to

1857
01:31:28,240 --> 01:31:29,960
Speaker 5: even get into that, but I mean.

1858
01:31:29,880 --> 01:31:33,680
Speaker 4: By the way, Cooper Cup last year, guys, yep, nine games, right,

1859
01:31:33,680 --> 01:31:35,800
Speaker 4: you got hurt in that ninth game, So really like

1860
01:31:35,880 --> 01:31:40,519
Speaker 4: eight games, seventy five catches, eight hundred and twelve yards,

1861
01:31:40,560 --> 01:31:44,800
Speaker 4: six touchdowns, that's basically eight games. He put that up

1862
01:31:44,800 --> 01:31:48,880
Speaker 4: in Jesus, Yeah, that's crazy. So yeah, I don't think

1863
01:31:48,960 --> 01:31:50,280
Speaker 4: seven wins too much to ask.

1864
01:31:50,520 --> 01:31:53,879
Speaker 3: I'm glad you mentioned the alternate wind totals crack because

1865
01:31:53,920 --> 01:31:57,519
Speaker 3: they do. Look sometimes you're like, why, my god, I mean,

1866
01:31:57,520 --> 01:32:00,000
Speaker 3: I think I took one this year. I took Jacksonville

1867
01:32:00,360 --> 01:32:03,200
Speaker 3: over ten and a half at plus one forty five.

1868
01:32:03,880 --> 01:32:06,080
Speaker 3: But otherwise, like they look, you're like, oh, wait, Chiefs

1869
01:32:06,120 --> 01:32:07,400
Speaker 3: over twelve and a half. I can get it at

1870
01:32:07,400 --> 01:32:10,439
Speaker 3: this number. But it doesn't. It doesn't. It's hard to

1871
01:32:10,520 --> 01:32:12,880
Speaker 3: do because of so many different factors of Jacksonville. I

1872
01:32:12,920 --> 01:32:15,479
Speaker 3: think I'm just high in Jacksonville this year. Yeah, I

1873
01:32:15,520 --> 01:32:16,080
Speaker 3: would even.

1874
01:32:15,960 --> 01:32:17,920
Speaker 5: Take us some money there. Good you got you got

1875
01:32:17,920 --> 01:32:20,240
Speaker 5: plus plus forty five five. Yeah, it's good. I see

1876
01:32:20,280 --> 01:32:21,680
Speaker 5: plus one twenty now, So I.

1877
01:32:21,680 --> 01:32:24,439
Speaker 3: Would And I would take the Steelers an alternate line too.

1878
01:32:24,439 --> 01:32:25,920
Speaker 3: Maybe I didn't do it, but I took over eight

1879
01:32:25,960 --> 01:32:27,320
Speaker 3: and a half. I would take over nine and a half.

1880
01:32:27,360 --> 01:32:28,960
Speaker 3: I think I think the Steel's gonna be really good

1881
01:32:29,000 --> 01:32:31,240
Speaker 3: this season. I think Kenny Pickt's gonna be that that

1882
01:32:31,320 --> 01:32:33,520
Speaker 3: quarterback in the year two who makes that big jump.

1883
01:32:33,880 --> 01:32:36,040
Speaker 5: Over nine and a half plus one thirty. I'm looking

1884
01:32:36,040 --> 01:32:36,240
Speaker 5: at it.

1885
01:32:36,280 --> 01:32:38,120
Speaker 3: I mean, I just took over eight and.

1886
01:32:38,120 --> 01:32:40,400
Speaker 5: A half over and a half minus a dollar forty.

1887
01:32:40,560 --> 01:32:43,799
Speaker 5: So again, these alternates though, it's just another way to bet.

1888
01:32:44,600 --> 01:32:47,240
Speaker 5: But but you know, just remember that by by slotting

1889
01:32:47,280 --> 01:32:50,360
Speaker 5: that little scroll bar across, you're going to be paying

1890
01:32:50,400 --> 01:32:53,400
Speaker 5: a tax, a giant tax. You have to just uh,

1891
01:32:53,880 --> 01:32:56,719
Speaker 5: you know, find out. Listen, I'm a shopper of lines.

1892
01:32:56,800 --> 01:32:59,479
Speaker 5: All these sportsbooks are offering these alternates, so are a

1893
01:32:59,479 --> 01:33:02,040
Speaker 5: lot of them are. And you know, you find out,

1894
01:33:02,040 --> 01:33:04,360
Speaker 5: you find your best line and you're actually bringing the

1895
01:33:04,400 --> 01:33:08,040
Speaker 5: house edge down, So I'm real big on doing that.

1896
01:33:08,080 --> 01:33:09,320
Speaker 5: So just to let you go, man, I.

1897
01:33:09,280 --> 01:33:12,120
Speaker 4: Wonder what odds you would have gotten last season for

1898
01:33:12,240 --> 01:33:16,360
Speaker 4: the Broncos and the Rams under five and a half. Yeah,

1899
01:33:16,439 --> 01:33:18,800
Speaker 4: those odds had to be long in that day.

1900
01:33:18,800 --> 01:33:20,840
Speaker 5: They just give you the sports book. Actually, if you

1901
01:33:20,920 --> 01:33:23,880
Speaker 5: win that, you know you win the.

1902
01:33:23,840 --> 01:33:27,280
Speaker 4: Sports book, right, you win the book. Congratulations, do what

1903
01:33:27,320 --> 01:33:30,040
Speaker 4: you will with it. All right, We've got Jeff Schwartz,

1904
01:33:30,040 --> 01:33:33,880
Speaker 4: eight year NFL veteran Bill Krackenberger sports handicapper from crack

1905
01:33:33,960 --> 01:33:37,240
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1906
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1910
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1911
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1912
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1913
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1914
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Speaker 4: we're looking for the biggest leap forward of any NFL

1915
01:34:11,760 --> 01:34:16,240
Speaker 4: team this season, and I put together this geeky chart,

1916
01:34:16,520 --> 01:34:19,200
Speaker 4: but it's helpful. We're just looking at the records over

1917
01:34:19,240 --> 01:34:22,400
Speaker 4: the last two years and who made the biggest leap forward,

1918
01:34:22,520 --> 01:34:26,639
Speaker 4: who had the biggest step back. So for reference, last season,

1919
01:34:27,280 --> 01:34:30,599
Speaker 4: the Jags, they had the biggest leap forward. They were

1920
01:34:30,680 --> 01:34:34,519
Speaker 4: plus six. They had six more wins last season than

1921
01:34:34,520 --> 01:34:37,320
Speaker 4: they did in twenty twenty one. The teams with the

1922
01:34:37,360 --> 01:34:40,599
Speaker 4: biggest step back, that would be both the Rams and

1923
01:34:40,680 --> 01:34:45,400
Speaker 4: the Arizona Cardinals. They were minus seven last season compared

1924
01:34:45,439 --> 01:34:48,720
Speaker 4: to twenty twenty one. So as you guys start to

1925
01:34:48,800 --> 01:34:52,040
Speaker 4: look at this biggest leap forward, obviously got to start

1926
01:34:52,040 --> 01:34:55,280
Speaker 4: with teams that had horrible records last season. Couple of

1927
01:34:55,320 --> 01:35:01,320
Speaker 4: candidates we were just talking about, Broncos, Rams, maybe the Bears.

1928
01:35:01,760 --> 01:35:04,760
Speaker 4: If Justin Fields has a big leap forward. Bears were

1929
01:35:04,800 --> 01:35:07,120
Speaker 4: three and fourteen, that was the same record the Jags

1930
01:35:07,160 --> 01:35:10,200
Speaker 4: were two years ago, and then they had that big

1931
01:35:10,240 --> 01:35:12,880
Speaker 4: improvement by six wins got them to nine and eight.

1932
01:35:13,439 --> 01:35:15,719
Speaker 4: Can you see that from the Bears that you think

1933
01:35:15,800 --> 01:35:18,960
Speaker 4: nine and eight from Chicago, Because if they do that,

1934
01:35:19,360 --> 01:35:21,000
Speaker 4: they'd be like the Jags, and that might be the

1935
01:35:21,000 --> 01:35:22,880
Speaker 4: biggest leap forward this season.

1936
01:35:24,960 --> 01:35:28,880
Speaker 3: I don't know. You know, the Jags made a big

1937
01:35:29,000 --> 01:35:31,400
Speaker 3: jump with a with the super Bowl head coach and

1938
01:35:31,479 --> 01:35:35,000
Speaker 3: with the Trevor Lawrence who is much better than Justin Fields.

1939
01:35:35,040 --> 01:35:36,679
Speaker 3: So you have to you have to think the Bears

1940
01:35:37,040 --> 01:35:39,800
Speaker 3: are gonna do that with a newish head coach, right.

1941
01:35:40,439 --> 01:35:43,320
Speaker 3: And then Justin Field's improving two levels that he can

1942
01:35:43,360 --> 01:35:48,080
Speaker 3: certainly maybe get there, but he's not gonna be Trevor Lawrence, right,

1943
01:35:48,400 --> 01:35:50,000
Speaker 3: And then you you have to kind of look at

1944
01:35:50,080 --> 01:35:55,000
Speaker 3: at the division, which is pretty it's not hard, but

1945
01:35:55,040 --> 01:35:58,680
Speaker 3: there's obviously some very good football teams in there. The

1946
01:35:58,680 --> 01:36:00,439
Speaker 3: Bears are out with their left tackle a little bit

1947
01:36:00,439 --> 01:36:02,000
Speaker 3: of time now, seuse me, their left guard a little

1948
01:36:02,040 --> 01:36:06,320
Speaker 3: bit of time now, young offensive line. I would I

1949
01:36:06,320 --> 01:36:11,519
Speaker 3: would think that they're not making that jump. It would

1950
01:36:11,520 --> 01:36:13,479
Speaker 3: be to me, I go back to we just talked

1951
01:36:13,479 --> 01:36:14,960
Speaker 3: about the Rams, like, I think the Rams are that

1952
01:36:14,960 --> 01:36:16,719
Speaker 3: team that makes that. If they're working at one team

1953
01:36:17,439 --> 01:36:20,600
Speaker 3: to make that jump, it's probably.

1954
01:36:20,160 --> 01:36:23,400
Speaker 5: Them, right the five and twelve last year.

1955
01:36:23,479 --> 01:36:28,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, if Stafford's healthy and brock Pray takes a step

1956
01:36:28,280 --> 01:36:33,160
Speaker 3: backwards for the Niners, that might be the team that

1957
01:36:33,280 --> 01:36:36,080
Speaker 3: really makes that that jump, which wouldn't be surprising, but

1958
01:36:36,439 --> 01:36:38,280
Speaker 3: you know, the concerned the year they had last year,

1959
01:36:39,080 --> 01:36:40,519
Speaker 3: that that would be the team I would I would

1960
01:36:40,560 --> 01:36:44,120
Speaker 3: pick to go. You know they go nine and eight, right,

1961
01:36:44,160 --> 01:36:46,880
Speaker 3: it's a plus four game jump from last season.

1962
01:36:47,960 --> 01:36:49,320
Speaker 5: And that's what you have to look at. I guess

1963
01:36:49,400 --> 01:36:51,080
Speaker 5: Brian said at the beginning, You're right, you have to

1964
01:36:51,080 --> 01:36:53,920
Speaker 5: look at one of these bad teams. And boy, it's

1965
01:36:53,960 --> 01:36:57,320
Speaker 5: so easy to come to outdo yourself from a three

1966
01:36:57,400 --> 01:37:00,839
Speaker 5: and fourteen or Texans three and thirteen in one season.

1967
01:37:01,760 --> 01:37:03,920
Speaker 5: I mean the Texans I would look to, but you

1968
01:37:03,960 --> 01:37:06,120
Speaker 5: know there's a team on here. Can you go as

1969
01:37:06,120 --> 01:37:09,160
Speaker 5: far as seven and ten? I think I could, because

1970
01:37:09,160 --> 01:37:11,519
Speaker 5: if you're looking at a percentage of being a better team,

1971
01:37:11,520 --> 01:37:13,679
Speaker 5: I think a team that's going to turn its season

1972
01:37:13,720 --> 01:37:16,679
Speaker 5: around here, I like the Titans from seven to ten

1973
01:37:17,240 --> 01:37:19,519
Speaker 5: to turn their season around, to have a winning season,

1974
01:37:19,640 --> 01:37:23,120
Speaker 5: then uh, you know, possibly a playoff berth which I

1975
01:37:23,160 --> 01:37:26,640
Speaker 5: actually did bet them to make the playoffs. So I

1976
01:37:26,640 --> 01:37:29,479
Speaker 5: would say, uh, I have the Titans down as if

1977
01:37:29,520 --> 01:37:31,800
Speaker 5: I had to if I was forced to use one

1978
01:37:31,800 --> 01:37:33,479
Speaker 5: of those teams. But again, it's easy to come back

1979
01:37:33,479 --> 01:37:35,920
Speaker 5: from a three and you know, three win year two

1980
01:37:35,960 --> 01:37:37,040
Speaker 5: for some of these teams.

1981
01:37:37,520 --> 01:37:40,080
Speaker 3: So the Titans are interesting craft, do you is there

1982
01:37:40,080 --> 01:37:40,280
Speaker 3: a right?

1983
01:37:40,360 --> 01:37:42,200
Speaker 5: No? You don't. I know you don't. Yeah, last week

1984
01:37:42,240 --> 01:37:46,479
Speaker 5: we talked about that. You don't particularly care for that.

1985
01:37:46,600 --> 01:37:49,360
Speaker 5: Bet I think, I bet. I think I bet plus

1986
01:37:49,560 --> 01:37:51,479
Speaker 5: four to one or four and a half to one

1987
01:37:51,640 --> 01:37:54,280
Speaker 5: from the win to the division, just as a as

1988
01:37:54,320 --> 01:37:56,880
Speaker 5: a is that could that be possible? It sounds like

1989
01:37:56,880 --> 01:37:57,599
Speaker 5: it's too high, but.

1990
01:37:58,200 --> 01:37:59,920
Speaker 4: That's about right. It's about three to one in.

1991
01:38:00,600 --> 01:38:03,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's right, it's three to one. Now, I bet

1992
01:38:03,080 --> 01:38:06,400
Speaker 5: I actually have some really good odds here in Vegas.

1993
01:38:06,439 --> 01:38:09,120
Speaker 5: I found plus four and a half to one for

1994
01:38:09,160 --> 01:38:11,280
Speaker 5: them to make a comeback. I just think that they're uh,

1995
01:38:11,640 --> 01:38:13,400
Speaker 5: you know that there's a lot of room for improvement

1996
01:38:13,439 --> 01:38:15,120
Speaker 5: with that. With that squad, there was a couple of

1997
01:38:15,160 --> 01:38:17,920
Speaker 5: close games last year got away from them. And you know,

1998
01:38:18,000 --> 01:38:19,519
Speaker 5: I have a team of guys. I have a guys

1999
01:38:19,560 --> 01:38:21,720
Speaker 5: that not only a guy that reads stuff, I have

2000
01:38:21,760 --> 01:38:26,200
Speaker 5: a guy that does back tested analytic polytical programming. They

2001
01:38:26,200 --> 01:38:28,479
Speaker 5: both kind of concurred on this and said, hey, we

2002
01:38:28,479 --> 01:38:30,599
Speaker 5: should grab that four and a half to one here

2003
01:38:30,600 --> 01:38:33,200
Speaker 5: in town. So we did. But now I won't give

2004
01:38:33,200 --> 01:38:35,840
Speaker 5: that out to anybody because the value is gone. Three

2005
01:38:35,880 --> 01:38:37,479
Speaker 5: to one is not the right number, but four and

2006
01:38:37,520 --> 01:38:39,040
Speaker 5: a half to one there was just some you know,

2007
01:38:39,120 --> 01:38:41,920
Speaker 5: some extra value there. That's the power of shopping lines

2008
01:38:42,240 --> 01:38:45,000
Speaker 5: and the power of you know, having multiple outs. And

2009
01:38:45,320 --> 01:38:47,400
Speaker 5: you know, I don't only shop lines here by the way,

2010
01:38:47,400 --> 01:38:49,719
Speaker 5: I shop lines in Jersey. When I'm in New Jersey.

2011
01:38:49,800 --> 01:38:52,960
Speaker 5: There's you know, we have sixteen seventeen sports books. I

2012
01:38:53,000 --> 01:38:54,840
Speaker 5: have accounts that are like four or five. And people

2013
01:38:54,880 --> 01:38:57,200
Speaker 5: don't realize that too. That's a great point that I'm

2014
01:38:57,240 --> 01:39:00,880
Speaker 5: bringing up. Actually give myself a little credit. Yeah, So

2015
01:39:00,880 --> 01:39:03,519
Speaker 5: so no, people don't know this. People think like like

2016
01:39:03,920 --> 01:39:07,280
Speaker 5: bet two things you said earlier, Brian, like bet MGM.

2017
01:39:07,360 --> 01:39:09,840
Speaker 5: So if you're in bet MGM in one of their

2018
01:39:10,400 --> 01:39:12,600
Speaker 5: places that they that you bet bet MGM, if you

2019
01:39:12,640 --> 01:39:14,639
Speaker 5: go right across the border and they have a location,

2020
01:39:15,120 --> 01:39:18,160
Speaker 5: your phone will automatically adapt to that border. Some of

2021
01:39:18,200 --> 01:39:20,120
Speaker 5: the sites don't do that. But bet MGM, you said,

2022
01:39:20,200 --> 01:39:22,240
Speaker 5: is doing that now. But going back to what I

2023
01:39:22,320 --> 01:39:26,280
Speaker 5: was saying, uh uh, shopping multiple lines and multiple things,

2024
01:39:27,320 --> 01:39:31,599
Speaker 5: the bet MGM I find has still some some low

2025
01:39:31,640 --> 01:39:34,439
Speaker 5: hanging fruit going across there. Boy, what a difference from

2026
01:39:34,520 --> 01:39:37,880
Speaker 5: last year to this year. Their uh, their their grid

2027
01:39:37,920 --> 01:39:40,880
Speaker 5: of bets this year is much much bigger than it

2028
01:39:40,960 --> 01:39:44,080
Speaker 5: was last year. Uh to shop about? So bet MGM,

2029
01:39:44,120 --> 01:39:46,080
Speaker 5: I'm you know there are sponsor but I'm giving them

2030
01:39:46,520 --> 01:39:49,360
Speaker 5: just some true and some true winds of Listen, I'll

2031
01:39:49,360 --> 01:39:51,679
Speaker 5: tell you another thing. When you bet these bonus bets,

2032
01:39:51,720 --> 01:39:55,280
Speaker 5: when you get bonus bets back, I don't know. Most

2033
01:39:55,280 --> 01:39:56,840
Speaker 5: people think, oh my god, it's a bonus. But I

2034
01:39:56,880 --> 01:39:58,639
Speaker 5: have to use it on something that's that I'm gonna

2035
01:39:58,640 --> 01:40:00,840
Speaker 5: win money on, and I I should win money. I'm

2036
01:40:00,840 --> 01:40:04,040
Speaker 5: gonna lay a favorite. No, No, bonus bets should not

2037
01:40:04,080 --> 01:40:06,439
Speaker 5: be used like that boy bet jams like crack. Well,

2038
01:40:06,479 --> 01:40:08,680
Speaker 5: I can tell him this stuff. No, but but no,

2039
01:40:08,800 --> 01:40:13,160
Speaker 5: bonus bets should not be used for giant favorites. So

2040
01:40:13,400 --> 01:40:17,080
Speaker 5: minus one fifty one sixty, No, there are bonus bet Mathematically,

2041
01:40:17,800 --> 01:40:20,879
Speaker 5: I can't get into it now, just trust me. Betting

2042
01:40:21,200 --> 01:40:25,040
Speaker 5: plus money is where you want to use your bonus bets.

2043
01:40:25,280 --> 01:40:27,800
Speaker 5: Betting plus money plus one twenty is even the low.

2044
01:40:27,880 --> 01:40:31,080
Speaker 5: But plus one fifty plus two to one, that's mathematically

2045
01:40:31,080 --> 01:40:34,280
Speaker 5: a better bet than laying juice on a bonus bet.

2046
01:40:34,520 --> 01:40:37,320
Speaker 5: So there's something off spontaneous there.

2047
01:40:37,479 --> 01:40:40,599
Speaker 4: Hey man, A couple of things here. First thing, I

2048
01:40:40,640 --> 01:40:43,840
Speaker 4: think of Jeff when you're talking about the Bears and

2049
01:40:44,040 --> 01:40:47,320
Speaker 4: Justin Fields. Imagine if going back to that twenty twenty

2050
01:40:47,320 --> 01:40:50,639
Speaker 4: one draft, the Niners could have drafted Justin Fields. Think

2051
01:40:50,680 --> 01:40:53,799
Speaker 4: about that, Yeah, the Niners could have had him instead

2052
01:40:53,840 --> 01:40:57,800
Speaker 4: he goes to the Bears. Think about the difference in

2053
01:40:57,880 --> 01:41:02,120
Speaker 4: supporting cast in Alanoff between the Niners and Bears. That

2054
01:41:02,240 --> 01:41:05,519
Speaker 4: is crazy to me. And then also, if you're looking

2055
01:41:05,560 --> 01:41:09,559
Speaker 4: at these big jumps forward last season compared to the

2056
01:41:09,640 --> 01:41:12,479
Speaker 4: year prior, or big steps back, a couple of things.

2057
01:41:12,479 --> 01:41:16,679
Speaker 4: Some numbers here for you. Jacksonville biggest leap forward last

2058
01:41:16,680 --> 01:41:20,520
Speaker 4: season compared to the year prior plus six. The Lions

2059
01:41:20,520 --> 01:41:23,080
Speaker 4: plus five and a half. I kind of win as

2060
01:41:23,120 --> 01:41:25,680
Speaker 4: the NFL does, half a win half a loss. So

2061
01:41:25,720 --> 01:41:28,320
Speaker 4: they're plus five and a half last year last year

2062
01:41:28,360 --> 01:41:32,720
Speaker 4: compared to the year prior. Some teams plus five Eagles

2063
01:41:32,920 --> 01:41:37,080
Speaker 4: and Vikings plus five is a big jump, right, And

2064
01:41:37,120 --> 01:41:40,160
Speaker 4: the teams with the big slides minus seven, Rams and

2065
01:41:40,240 --> 01:41:46,160
Speaker 4: Cardinals minus five, Tampa, Green Bay Titans. So you see

2066
01:41:46,200 --> 01:41:49,080
Speaker 4: a lot of movement year to year. That's why I

2067
01:41:49,120 --> 01:41:51,519
Speaker 4: think a lot of people start with last season too

2068
01:41:51,600 --> 01:41:55,240
Speaker 4: much in mind, like this team was ten and seven,

2069
01:41:55,560 --> 01:41:58,240
Speaker 4: they're gonna be right around there again, And oftentimes in

2070
01:41:58,280 --> 01:42:00,920
Speaker 4: the NFL there are big different diference. Is just something

2071
01:42:00,960 --> 01:42:03,000
Speaker 4: to keep in mind when you're you're pulling the trigger

2072
01:42:03,040 --> 01:42:04,320
Speaker 4: on these season win totals.

2073
01:42:04,680 --> 01:42:09,519
Speaker 3: I'm glad you mentioned that, Brian, because the NFL is

2074
01:42:09,560 --> 01:42:12,519
Speaker 3: a year to year sport. It's not. It's not like

2075
01:42:12,560 --> 01:42:14,840
Speaker 3: college football when you have mass talent over four or

2076
01:42:14,880 --> 01:42:17,160
Speaker 3: five years and you kind of keep that gravy trained rolling,

2077
01:42:18,000 --> 01:42:20,240
Speaker 3: where if you're you know, you're you're a ten win

2078
01:42:20,320 --> 01:42:22,040
Speaker 3: team three years in a row, you're probably gonna be

2079
01:42:22,040 --> 01:42:25,160
Speaker 3: a ten win team in year four. Right in the NFL,

2080
01:42:25,240 --> 01:42:28,920
Speaker 3: for the most part, outside of Kansas City recently and

2081
01:42:28,960 --> 01:42:31,760
Speaker 3: any of Tom Brady teams over the years, it is

2082
01:42:31,800 --> 01:42:34,040
Speaker 3: a year to year of sport. Man. Yeah, you can

2083
01:42:34,080 --> 01:42:37,719
Speaker 3: look at last year obviously and use that as instruction

2084
01:42:38,439 --> 01:42:40,479
Speaker 3: for what might come, you know, especially if you see

2085
01:42:40,479 --> 01:42:43,559
Speaker 3: improvement in a certain player or group or your first

2086
01:42:43,600 --> 01:42:45,680
Speaker 3: year coach, and use that to value a year two.

2087
01:42:45,760 --> 01:42:49,080
Speaker 3: But you can't just assume because someone won x amount

2088
01:42:49,120 --> 01:42:51,200
Speaker 3: of games of the year before, they're going to do

2089
01:42:51,240 --> 01:42:53,800
Speaker 3: that again. Unless you're again the Chiefs, right, even the

2090
01:42:53,800 --> 01:42:56,519
Speaker 3: Eagles this year, I think it's to assume they're gonna

2091
01:42:56,520 --> 01:43:00,400
Speaker 3: win twelve games with with with two coordinator changes, tougher

2092
01:43:00,400 --> 01:43:03,320
Speaker 3: division this year with the Giants, I think being you know, Washington,

2093
01:43:03,320 --> 01:43:05,880
Speaker 3: I think is good outside of you know, Sam Howill say, aw,

2094
01:43:05,920 --> 01:43:07,439
Speaker 3: he does. But just you have a tougher schedule, your

2095
01:43:07,479 --> 01:43:11,320
Speaker 3: first place schedule this season. It's hard to do that,

2096
01:43:11,400 --> 01:43:14,720
Speaker 3: and each year should be taken on its own. We

2097
01:43:14,720 --> 01:43:18,120
Speaker 3: should not look at it last year and think that

2098
01:43:18,120 --> 01:43:19,719
Speaker 3: that's just gonna automatically happen again.

2099
01:43:19,960 --> 01:43:23,920
Speaker 4: Great points, Jeff, I'm just counting this up. Crack thirteen

2100
01:43:24,120 --> 01:43:28,080
Speaker 4: teams with a four game difference last season, meaning they

2101
01:43:28,120 --> 01:43:31,360
Speaker 4: either won four more games last season compared to the

2102
01:43:31,439 --> 01:43:35,120
Speaker 4: year prior, or they lost at least four more games

2103
01:43:35,560 --> 01:43:39,760
Speaker 4: last season compared to twenty twenty one. Thirteen teams where

2104
01:43:39,800 --> 01:43:43,640
Speaker 4: there's a four game difference year over year. That's a

2105
01:43:43,640 --> 01:43:45,880
Speaker 4: big difference. Yeah, yeah, so you got to keep that

2106
01:43:45,920 --> 01:43:46,920
Speaker 4: in mind, man, when you're.

2107
01:43:46,840 --> 01:43:49,280
Speaker 5: Get you know, it's funny. You guys mentioned you mentioned

2108
01:43:49,560 --> 01:43:52,680
Speaker 5: Brian about Detroit being in there. Did they go up

2109
01:43:52,720 --> 01:43:53,960
Speaker 5: five and a half? Is that what you said?

2110
01:43:54,000 --> 01:43:55,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, they went up for yes and a half.

2111
01:43:55,680 --> 01:43:59,720
Speaker 5: Yet there's talks of, you know, because they these sportsbooks,

2112
01:43:59,720 --> 01:44:02,360
Speaker 5: some of the sports folks offer who's the first coach

2113
01:44:02,400 --> 01:44:06,760
Speaker 5: to get fired. One of the guys that I know said,

2114
01:44:06,880 --> 01:44:10,320
Speaker 5: Dan Campbell's gonna be how how can even though it's

2115
01:44:10,320 --> 01:44:12,800
Speaker 5: thirty to one or so, how do you even think

2116
01:44:12,920 --> 01:44:16,000
Speaker 5: Campbell's going for He's like, I'll.

2117
01:44:15,840 --> 01:44:19,960
Speaker 3: Tell you why, why, Here's why I'm not. I don't

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Speaker 3: think it's gonna happen. I thought I'm a wager I would,

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Speaker 3: I would wager on. But here's how it happens. Right,

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Speaker 3: Jared Goff reverts back to really bad Jared Goff. Right,

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Speaker 3: so that's the first part, Right, you're just not kno

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Speaker 3: going off its. Defensively, they were bad last season. Aiden

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Speaker 3: Hutcherson I think takes a year or two jump, but

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Speaker 3: he's been really good. But otherwise, you know, there's you know,

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Speaker 3: maybe a couple of free agency you brought in aren't

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01:44:43,920 --> 01:44:46,879
Speaker 3: ready to play, and Arnor's good as a word, previous

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Speaker 3: stops and your defense doesn't play as well as and

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01:44:49,600 --> 01:44:53,280
Speaker 3: show me there's there's That's how it happens. First coach fired,

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Speaker 3: I think is a little much yeah, I think the

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01:44:57,800 --> 01:45:00,360
Speaker 3: favorite is Mike McCarthy, right, which I don't. I don't

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01:45:00,360 --> 01:45:01,880
Speaker 3: think Dallas fires him in mid season.

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Speaker 4: I don't either. I think Ron Rivera, Josh McDaniels gotta

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Speaker 4: be on that list with the.

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Speaker 3: Rivera, Josh McDaniels, or Todd Bowles. I don't think Tampa

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01:45:10,800 --> 01:45:13,599
Speaker 3: would do Todd Bowles that way, but it's certainly possible,

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Speaker 3: and they're center. By the way, Ryan Jensen announced, I

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Speaker 3: believe he's gonna have to retire through injury, which obviously stinks.

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Speaker 3: There's a fun you know, there's no fun Raiders take

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Speaker 3: to be had. Of Raiders play badly, they fire McDaniels,

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Speaker 3: get Kayleb Williams in the hire Lincoln Riley or hire

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Speaker 3: Linklin Riley, draft Kaila Williams.

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Speaker 4: So we're betting the overs if they take Lincoln Riley, right.

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Speaker 3: Well, yeah, but I would imagine is that a thing

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Speaker 3: that you know, if they're if they're the like, they

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Speaker 3: probably don't can be the first pick because Arizona might

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Speaker 3: be there. But Arizona might say, like, hey, you know,

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Speaker 3: we're not gonna we like Kyler Murray. We're not gonna

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Speaker 3: move off him and the Raiders go up and get

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Speaker 3: Caleb Williams.

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Speaker 4: They'd be out of their minds if they say that.

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01:45:52,880 --> 01:45:56,800
Speaker 4: I know there's a big financial hit, but uh, you

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01:45:56,880 --> 01:46:01,200
Speaker 4: gotta you gotta go, you gotta start again. You got

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Speaker 4: I'm with you, man, Yeah.

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01:46:02,920 --> 01:46:07,559
Speaker 3: Cay Williams is is. I hate doing the you know,

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01:46:07,600 --> 01:46:09,920
Speaker 3: the comparison to Patrick Mahomes and I hate when we

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Speaker 3: do this. But I mean he's pretty good.

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Speaker 4: She's really good. There's another layer to that. We got

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Speaker 4: to get to right around the corner first, though, Isaac

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Speaker 4: Loewenkraud a man of many talents, what including the gift

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Speaker 4: of gap.

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Speaker 6: He's got the latest we indeed, fellas, and we begin

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Speaker 6: with some fresh NFL news that is just coming down

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Speaker 6: right now. NFL media reporting within the last few moments

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Speaker 6: that an MRI has confirmed that Cleveland Brown's receiver and

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Speaker 6: returner Jakeem Grant ruptured his pateller tendon in yesterday's preseason

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Speaker 6: game at Kansas City and is out for the season.

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01:46:46,280 --> 01:46:49,080
Speaker 6: Grant had just come back after missing last season with

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Speaker 6: a ruptured achilles tendon that he suffered in August of

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Speaker 6: twenty twenty two. NFL media also reporting the New England

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Speaker 6: Patriots have acquired offensive tackle Tyrone Wheatley Junior from the

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Speaker 6: Browns in exchanged for running back Pierre Strong. Incidentally, Pierre

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Speaker 6: Strong also has experience returning kickoffs during his time with

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Speaker 6: the Patriots, so that obviously plays into jakeem Grant's situation

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Speaker 6: and his injury. NFL Media reports the Colts have released

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Speaker 6: veteran running back Kenyan Drake. Multiple outlets support the Giants

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Speaker 6: releasing running back James Robinson and receiver Jaden Mickens. ESPN

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Speaker 6: reports Miami Dolphins defensive alignment Zach Steelers agreed to a

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Speaker 6: three year extension worth up to thirty eight million dollars

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Speaker 6: with twenty million guaranteed.

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Speaker 1: That often say receiver Daywood Davis.

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Speaker 6: Has been released from the hospital after being injured in

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Speaker 6: the last night's game at Jacksonville and will return to

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Speaker 6: Miami today. In college football Saturday Night, number six USC

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Speaker 6: opened its season with a fifty six to twenty eight

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Speaker 6: win over San Jose State. USC Heisman Trophy winning quarterback

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Speaker 6: Caleb Williams through for two hundred and seventy eight yards

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Speaker 6: with four touchdown passes. This was a one touchdown game,

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Speaker 6: just a one touchdown game. Four minutes into the third quarter.

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Speaker 6: And with that in mind, fellas, I'm now going to

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Speaker 6: read you some USC message board posts that were made

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Speaker 6: during that time. User name y NWA six x sounds

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Speaker 6: like a license plate posting and I quote Riley stock tumbling,

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Speaker 6: how do you retain this moron? Unquote? Ls say in

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Speaker 6: five posting quote sick to my stomach for real Vroome

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Speaker 6: one quote pathetic. Anyone who believes in this nonsense is delusional.

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Speaker 6: And finally two x Sclum posting and I quote pump

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Speaker 6: the brakes on this CFP talk. Got to temper expectations

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01:48:51,720 --> 01:48:54,799
Speaker 6: for now unquote and find a lot of ESPN reporting

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Speaker 6: Arizona State expected to self impose a one year bowl

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Speaker 6: band for this season. I midst an ongoing NCAA investigation

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Speaker 6: for alleged violations under former head coach Herman Edwards. Signing

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Speaker 6: off for today. This is why NW eight excuse me.

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Speaker 6: This is Isaac Longcron back to you, Thank.

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Speaker 4: You, I Low It's Fox Sports Radios Countdown to Kickoff,

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Speaker 4: presented by Bett MGM. Goodness, fans, fans will fan you

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Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. They were just what under Clay Helton.

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Speaker 4: I'm looking year by year records here, what three and six?

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01:49:32,000 --> 01:49:34,800
Speaker 4: That was when the season he got fired, and then

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Speaker 4: Dante Williams took over there, like Lincoln Riley took over

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Speaker 4: this squad, and record wise he was they were four

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Speaker 4: and eight. They were four and eight this season before

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Speaker 4: he took over one eleven and three last season. And

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Speaker 4: now because they didn't beat down San Jose State badly enough,

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Speaker 4: they're like, get this clown out of here.

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Speaker 3: I think we met he met Alex Screes my guests.

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Speaker 4: Well, hey, that's fine, but uh man, you just look

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01:50:04,040 --> 01:50:06,280
Speaker 4: at I'm going year by year. So there was five

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Speaker 4: and seven starting in twenty eighteen, eight and five, the

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01:50:09,320 --> 01:50:11,880
Speaker 4: weird COVID year was five and one, then four and eight.

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Speaker 4: It just jumped up to eleven and three, Like, I

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Speaker 4: don't know, sometimes.

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Speaker 3: Sometimes coaching does matter, right, I mean, you had Caleb Williams.

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Speaker 4: That sort of helps, absolutely helps.

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01:50:23,360 --> 01:50:25,800
Speaker 3: A portion of their offensive line was already there when

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01:50:25,880 --> 01:50:28,080
Speaker 3: Lincoln Riley got there. They had twoy two below two.

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Speaker 3: It was the second round draft pick of the Chargers.

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Speaker 3: He led the country in sacks last season, was already

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Speaker 3: there when Riley got there. They also didn't play Washington

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Speaker 3: Organ last season, and they have those teams this season,

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Speaker 3: and look, the hopes are obviously very hard for them

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Speaker 3: this year. And there's you know when you have a

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01:50:42,920 --> 01:50:47,519
Speaker 3: question mark of can we stop anyone? And sanse State

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01:50:48,240 --> 01:50:50,599
Speaker 3: if you watch that game last night, I'm sure the

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01:50:50,600 --> 01:50:53,760
Speaker 3: millions if you did on pat twelve network, a lot

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01:50:53,800 --> 01:50:57,920
Speaker 3: of the USC good plays on defense, where Sansey State

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01:50:58,320 --> 01:51:01,080
Speaker 3: having penalties like it was like a off inflicted issue

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01:51:01,400 --> 01:51:04,920
Speaker 3: for Santaeos State more than USC creating the highlight they

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Speaker 3: need on defense.

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Speaker 4: Well, I just think this where you mentioned it, Jeff,

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Speaker 4: if you look at the Raiders, the best thing that

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01:51:11,800 --> 01:51:14,360
Speaker 4: could happen for the Raiders is that they stink so

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01:51:14,560 --> 01:51:17,439
Speaker 4: badly that they get the number one overall pick and

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01:51:17,479 --> 01:51:20,240
Speaker 4: they can get Caleb Williams. And I'm not telling you

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01:51:20,320 --> 01:51:22,840
Speaker 4: he's going to be the next Patrick Mahomes, but you

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01:51:23,000 --> 01:51:27,559
Speaker 4: have a legitimate chance in that division to have a

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01:51:27,840 --> 01:51:30,880
Speaker 4: top flight franchise quarterback. And if you do, it gives

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01:51:30,880 --> 01:51:34,599
Speaker 4: you a chance. You're not taking down Mahomes in company

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01:51:34,680 --> 01:51:37,040
Speaker 4: with Jimmy g you know what I mean, Like, You're

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Speaker 4: not going anywhere that way. So the best thing they

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Speaker 4: could do is stink so badly they've got a shot

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Speaker 4: at what could turn out to be a top flight quarterback.

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Speaker 5: Hey, just for everyone at home too and listening to

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01:51:50,040 --> 01:51:52,760
Speaker 5: us across the networks here, I'll tell you, you know,

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01:51:52,840 --> 01:51:56,519
Speaker 5: me living in Las Vegas, I realize and it's almost

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01:51:56,680 --> 01:52:00,679
Speaker 5: common sense too. But people that don't know, when the Raiders,

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Speaker 5: out of all the NFL teams, the Raiders have a

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Speaker 5: home game, I would put less stock in their home

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01:52:06,320 --> 01:52:09,920
Speaker 5: field advantage than any other team because of the visiting

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01:52:10,000 --> 01:52:14,320
Speaker 5: strategies here. The visiting you know, everyone revolves their vacations

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Speaker 5: in Vegas around their you know, their home, their their

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01:52:17,040 --> 01:52:19,880
Speaker 5: teams comeing to Vegas and it's fifty percent of the

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01:52:19,920 --> 01:52:22,680
Speaker 5: fans are rooting for the opposite team. So it's not

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01:52:22,720 --> 01:52:25,840
Speaker 5: really a big home advantage here in Las Vegas when

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01:52:26,120 --> 01:52:27,760
Speaker 5: these teams come there. So keep that in mind for

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Speaker 5: your your betting strategies throughout the year.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and hey, add the Rams the Chargers to the list.

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Speaker 4: Not exactly, you know, like, yeah, you're.

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Speaker 5: Right those over LA. You're right, I've been to some

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01:52:38,960 --> 01:52:41,280
Speaker 5: of those LA games. You're right about that same thing

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01:52:41,320 --> 01:52:43,760
Speaker 5: when down in Florida, I notice it too a little bit,

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Speaker 5: but LA even more.

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Speaker 3: Okay, interesting thing about Los Angeles guys, I'm from Los Angeles,

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01:52:48,360 --> 01:52:50,760
Speaker 3: that's right. Most of my childhood, we didn't have a

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Speaker 3: team in LA. Right, The Rams and the Raiders aren't

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01:52:52,760 --> 01:52:55,120
Speaker 3: left in the ninety four ninety three somewhere around there.

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Speaker 3: So now they come back to Los Angeles. Everyone in

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01:52:59,720 --> 01:53:02,000
Speaker 3: LA already has a favorite team that's not the Chargers

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Speaker 3: or Rams. So you're asking people to basically restart their

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01:53:07,680 --> 01:53:11,240
Speaker 3: fandom or add the fandom. You know, ad But like

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Speaker 3: most of us in the West Coast, I was a

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Speaker 3: Niners fan. I'm not going to be a Rams fan, Like,

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01:53:14,840 --> 01:53:16,280
Speaker 3: why would I root for the Rams. I'm a Niners

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01:53:16,320 --> 01:53:18,000
Speaker 3: fan already. You know, if you're a Raiders fan in

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01:53:18,000 --> 01:53:20,639
Speaker 3: California or in Los Angeles a ton, you're not rooting

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01:53:20,680 --> 01:53:22,679
Speaker 3: for the Chargers all of a sudden, there's not those

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01:53:22,760 --> 01:53:24,920
Speaker 3: core fan bases in Sam in Vegas. Not a core

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01:53:25,000 --> 01:53:26,880
Speaker 3: Raiders fan base in Las Vegas, even though I think

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01:53:26,880 --> 01:53:29,720
Speaker 3: the Raiders were probably the most popular team in Vegas.

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Speaker 3: Them are the Niners when they moved there, But there's

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01:53:32,760 --> 01:53:34,960
Speaker 3: not a core fitmbas. I saw that here in Charlotte

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01:53:35,240 --> 01:53:38,080
Speaker 3: with the Panthers, where you know, the Panthers came here

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01:53:38,080 --> 01:53:42,000
Speaker 3: in ninety five, I believe, and everyone who lived in

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01:53:42,040 --> 01:53:44,760
Speaker 3: the Carolina's already had a favorite team. Often it was

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01:53:44,840 --> 01:53:48,400
Speaker 3: from the northeast, right, it was a Giants, Bills, Steelers,

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01:53:48,600 --> 01:53:51,640
Speaker 3: a bunch of Cowboys fans here, Washington football fans. And

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01:53:51,720 --> 01:53:54,439
Speaker 3: so when the Panthers, you know, when we had a

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01:53:54,439 --> 01:53:57,559
Speaker 3: home game and we played the Steelers, all the Panthers,

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01:53:57,840 --> 01:54:00,439
Speaker 3: he's ticket holders who are Steelers fans, take off their

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01:54:00,439 --> 01:54:03,120
Speaker 3: Panthers jersey for the game, put on their Steelers jersey

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Speaker 3: for the game. Right now, Wow, the team has been

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01:54:05,160 --> 01:54:07,880
Speaker 3: here twenty five years. So their kids who grew up

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01:54:07,880 --> 01:54:11,960
Speaker 3: Panthers fans now have the tickets and they're Panthers fans. Right.

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01:54:12,000 --> 01:54:15,639
Speaker 3: So it takes like a generation to get like those

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01:54:15,800 --> 01:54:20,200
Speaker 3: fans where they grew up liking that football team. Because

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01:54:20,360 --> 01:54:23,240
Speaker 3: people my age in Carolina, I think they like the Panthers.

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01:54:23,240 --> 01:54:25,920
Speaker 3: People older than that the Boby Thickets. First, they have

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Speaker 3: their own favorite team. It's not the Panthers.

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Speaker 5: That homemadge is not what it is to it just

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Speaker 5: in profession corrects right, So like it is collegiate sports.

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Speaker 4: Hey, we've got Jeff Schwartz, eight year NFL veteran. He

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Speaker 4: makes his home in Charlotte. Right now, we got Bill Krackenberger,

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Speaker 4: Yes Sportsandy Kapper from crack Wins dot Com. He's over

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Speaker 4: there in Vegas. I'm Brian Know I am currently residing

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Speaker 4: in Peoria, Illinois for the next month, and who knows

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Speaker 4: after that.

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Speaker 3: You sound dejected about that, M.

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Speaker 4: I mean, it's just you know, life as a radio

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Speaker 4: vagaba on Jeff don't know where the Wind's gonna blow next?

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Speaker 4: Coming up next, A funny comment and picks. It's a

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Speaker 4: good combination. It's Fox Sports Radios Countdown to Kickoff presented

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Speaker 4: by Bet MGM. It is Fox Sports Radios count Down

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Speaker 4: to Kickoff, presented by Bett MGM. Props to the crew.

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Speaker 4: Bell Benson, our trusted producer. Great job Iowa, Sam technical

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Speaker 4: producer busted out some lamb of God Rave reviews today.

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Speaker 4: Top of the Hour, Fox Sports Sunday, Steve Hartman, Rich

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Speaker 4: Ornberger keep it locked right here on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 4: By the way, real fast before our picks, funny comment

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Speaker 4: from Jerry Jones was talking about defensive ends Sam Williams.

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Speaker 4: So Sam Williams got busted again. He was driving too fast.

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Speaker 4: Jerry Jones made a funny comment about it. Check this out.

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Speaker 4: This shot sounds a little hollow, but he does and

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Speaker 4: is maturing.

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Speaker 5: What was he going sixty six? Was he going sixty six?

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Speaker 3: Now? No, this year, So he's thirty.

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Speaker 7: Four miles an hour less than this year than he

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Speaker 7: was last year, nine sixty six.

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Speaker 5: So that's improvement.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a little tongue in Jerry Jones and the

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Speaker 4: Dallas Cowboys right there. Gotta love it, guys. All right,

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Speaker 4: let's do this. Let's dive right into some picks.

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Speaker 1: Rapid fire.

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Speaker 4: We're looking for one pick each. We'll start with you, Krack.

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Speaker 4: As we look forward, I was gonna go with ball slave.

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Speaker 5: Jeff's game that he gave out a couple of weeks

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Speaker 5: ago with the Florida Utah, he went back to seven.

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Speaker 5: I just decided spontaneously to give you something else. Sorry,

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Speaker 5: So NC State Connecticut under forty seven. I gave this

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Speaker 5: out actually a couple of weeks ago when it was a

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Speaker 5: little bit higher. But I still see this game kind

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Speaker 5: of being like a maybe even like a thirty to

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Speaker 5: seven score or something like that. NC State Connecticut under

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Speaker 5: the total use. We usually don't do college. But hey,

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Speaker 5: that's gonna be on Thursday, so we got a couple

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Speaker 5: of days in between here until our NFL season starts.

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Speaker 5: We got hi kid, very nice.

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Speaker 4: Do you got anything, Jeff?

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Speaker 3: So my favorite in the Week one was Hawaii plus

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Speaker 3: seven hosting Stanford. After the game last night, the line

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Speaker 3: is now Hawaii plus five, so I have plus seven,

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Speaker 3: so I'm not gonna give that out because plus five

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Speaker 3: is not the same as plus seven. I like the

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Speaker 3: under in Washington State Colorado State. It's fifty six right now.

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Speaker 3: I know a wild game in Week one to go with,

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Speaker 3: but both offenses struggled last year with both defenses being

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Speaker 3: really good. It's kind of what they do, new clock

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Speaker 3: rules and whatnot. Give me the under fifty six in

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Speaker 3: that game.

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Speaker 5: Matt rule.

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Speaker 4: First year at Nebraska, it's gonna be rough. So I

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Speaker 4: don't love laying the seven in the hook with Minnesota,

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Speaker 4: but as of right now, that's my lean. It is

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Speaker 4: my lean with the Golden Gophers. Let's get to this

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Speaker 4: as well.

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Speaker 1: This is the best play of the day.

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Speaker 3: It's a touchdown.

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Speaker 4: Man, all right, crack, what do you have for us? Buddy?

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Speaker 5: Here it is I'm gonna give you a Jeff's play.

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Speaker 5: I'm surprised he didn't give it out. I'll take that

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Speaker 5: seven points with Florida, it's back up to seven, Jeff,

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Speaker 5: so uh, I think we'll we'll. I haven't bet it yet,

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Speaker 5: but I'm going to dabble a little bit in that.

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Speaker 5: There you go.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, surprised it went from seven to five to seven.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, really that is that did surprise me.

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Speaker 4: It's back this crazy movement, crazy movement going on. Enjoy

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Speaker 4: your day. We'll reconvene next Sunday.