WEBVTT - Draft Show: Things Are Getting Interesting 0:00:03.720 --> 0:00:09.039 This is the Dallas Cowboys dot Com Draft Show, your 0:00:09.160 --> 0:00:12.480 war room for in center news and draft analysis from 0:00:12.560 --> 0:00:16.000 deep within the confines of Cowboys Headquarters at the Star 0:00:16.079 --> 0:00:21.439 in Fresco, Dallas Cowboys like Dan Lamb and Wiser again no, 0:00:21.880 --> 0:00:27.760 your host, Kyle Yeomans, welcome in to a mix and 0:00:28.000 --> 0:00:31.000 match edition of the Draft Show. It'll be like this 0:00:31.120 --> 0:00:33.440 for the next couple of weeks. But it is the 0:00:33.520 --> 0:00:35.879 Dallas Cowboys dot Com Draft Show, and we are just 0:00:36.240 --> 0:00:40.360 thirty days away from the NFL Draft, and we've got 0:00:40.400 --> 0:00:43.760 ourselves a good one on tap for the next hour 0:00:43.920 --> 0:00:47.880 as Brian brought us, Jeff Cavanaugh, Dame Brugler, and myself. 0:00:47.960 --> 0:00:51.720 Kyle Yeoman's joining you for this Tuesday edition. Then we've 0:00:51.760 --> 0:00:56.080 got Bucky Katie and Dave Hellman on Thursday. Derek Eagleton 0:00:56.240 --> 0:00:59.360 working his magic once again, mixing and matching the host 0:00:59.400 --> 0:01:01.880 and finding a way to bring you guys the best 0:01:01.960 --> 0:01:05.000 draft coverage that we can potentially find. But this is 0:01:05.040 --> 0:01:07.840 one that I've been really excited about because one we 0:01:07.959 --> 0:01:10.480 get Dane Brugler back with Brian brought us, which I 0:01:10.520 --> 0:01:13.600 think is something that's gold in its own right, but 0:01:13.680 --> 0:01:17.160 also Jeff and Brian have five hours a day of 0:01:17.280 --> 0:01:20.520 radio together, and this is an hour of off the rails, 0:01:20.880 --> 0:01:23.520 no holding back and basically going at each other. And 0:01:23.560 --> 0:01:26.360 I think that's what's going to be really exciting about this, 0:01:26.480 --> 0:01:30.960 mister Brian brought us. Yeah it is. These cats don't 0:01:31.000 --> 0:01:34.160 want to smoke I'm about to bring to them. So yeah, 0:01:34.200 --> 0:01:36.680 this should be a lot of fun, you know. And 0:01:37.200 --> 0:01:40.080 I'll say this, Kyle, two guys that if I was 0:01:40.160 --> 0:01:43.360 ever to get back into the scouting world and get 0:01:43.360 --> 0:01:45.800 to run a team, these are two of the guys 0:01:45.840 --> 0:01:49.160 I would hire first. And I mean that with all sincerity. 0:01:49.160 --> 0:01:52.120 I've enjoyed working with them the last seven eight years. 0:01:52.640 --> 0:01:55.160 And anytime that I could sit down with them and 0:01:55.800 --> 0:01:59.040 argue about these players, or agree about players, or paint 0:01:59.040 --> 0:02:02.560 a picture about these players, it's it's time very well 0:02:02.640 --> 0:02:05.840 spent for me. So I am looking forward to this, uh, 0:02:05.840 --> 0:02:09.720 to this day very much. Daney's gonna bring the spike 0:02:09.760 --> 0:02:14.760 to coffee for you about us, Yeah, I mean, like 0:02:14.919 --> 0:02:19.600 Brian does the work, so I can I enjoy listening 0:02:19.639 --> 0:02:22.040 to the opinions if everybody that does the work, and 0:02:22.160 --> 0:02:25.240 Brian does more work than most out there, so I 0:02:25.320 --> 0:02:30.000 always enjoy the discussions. Um, you know, Jeff, Yeah, he 0:02:30.760 --> 0:02:33.120 puts in the work too, so you know this is 0:02:33.120 --> 0:02:36.079 gonna be. He hates offensive lineman. He just he hates 0:02:36.160 --> 0:02:38.960 offensive lineman Dane. So you know we can talk about 0:02:39.120 --> 0:02:44.919 I have watched ten offensive linemen. Okay, that's pretty hate 0:02:44.960 --> 0:02:47.000 them and I don't want to watch them, but I've 0:02:47.120 --> 0:02:49.680 seen ten of them, okay, and some of them. But 0:02:49.760 --> 0:02:53.000 he's seen every receiver in the draft. So just just 0:02:53.120 --> 0:02:55.079 let it be known that if it if his opinions 0:02:55.120 --> 0:02:57.960 coming on these receivers, he's got that couvered for your 0:02:58.040 --> 0:03:01.440 I think most years I watched one hundred receivers and 0:03:01.720 --> 0:03:08.360 six other prospects total. This year we got receivers slacking 0:03:08.360 --> 0:03:10.960 them up. The trade action we saw over the Wes, 0:03:11.639 --> 0:03:15.240 but we were moving, were moving, and we thought it 0:03:15.240 --> 0:03:18.000 was going to happen, maybe not a month before the draft, 0:03:18.200 --> 0:03:21.840 but the forty nine ers moving up to number three, Um, 0:03:22.720 --> 0:03:24.959 this this is going to be interesting. And not only 0:03:25.760 --> 0:03:30.600 what's gonna happen at three, but the ramifications now of four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, 0:03:30.760 --> 0:03:33.040 and then what happens at ten. This is gonna get 0:03:33.080 --> 0:03:37.920 really interesting. And it starts at three. What what which quarterback. 0:03:38.360 --> 0:03:40.640 Did the forty nine ers go up to get Obviously 0:03:40.680 --> 0:03:43.720 they're coming up for a quarterback. Trevor Lawrence is going one, 0:03:44.320 --> 0:03:49.320 Zach Wilson's going to who's going through mister broad Us. Yeah, 0:03:49.400 --> 0:03:51.400 San Francisco's gonna go ahead and trade all the way 0:03:51.480 --> 0:03:53.280 up to two to make sure that they get Zach 0:03:53.360 --> 0:03:55.360 Wilson out of this thing. That's what they're doing. They're 0:03:55.360 --> 0:03:58.520 just putting themselves in shape to be able to flop 0:03:58.640 --> 0:04:01.200 those picks. You know. Robert Salo being the head coach 0:04:01.320 --> 0:04:03.960 now with the Jets, trust me, they know what's going 0:04:04.000 --> 0:04:06.720 on in San Francisco right now. So you know, no, 0:04:07.000 --> 0:04:10.560 I you know, I'm not buying the smoke. I'm not 0:04:10.680 --> 0:04:12.880 buying that I talked to here. I'm talking about smoke again. 0:04:13.280 --> 0:04:16.560 You know, I want to believe that. This is where 0:04:16.560 --> 0:04:19.359 I always tell people, like it's ice cream. These quarterbacks 0:04:19.400 --> 0:04:21.880 are like ice cream. It's your flavor, whatever you believe, 0:04:22.440 --> 0:04:25.280 you know. And Kyle Shanahan, he doesn't care what the 0:04:25.400 --> 0:04:29.080 Draft show thinks about these quarterbacks, don't care about our opinion. 0:04:29.480 --> 0:04:31.040 He will go out and get the guy he wants. 0:04:31.440 --> 0:04:34.560 I'm perfectly fine with that, But to give up what 0:04:34.760 --> 0:04:38.760 he did to take a quarterback that's not as talented 0:04:38.800 --> 0:04:40.920 as some of the guys that he could potentially pick. 0:04:41.800 --> 0:04:45.240 I don't know, man, that that is going way way 0:04:45.400 --> 0:04:47.480 way out on a lamb right there. And you know what, 0:04:47.880 --> 0:04:50.159 if he takes mac Jones and he works out, well, 0:04:50.880 --> 0:04:52.480 it'll be one of more of those times where I 0:04:52.480 --> 0:04:54.279 could say, you know what, I was wrong about a guy. 0:04:54.839 --> 0:04:58.080 But I don't know how San Francisco can take Mac Jones, 0:04:58.160 --> 0:05:00.720 give all, they did go up there and take him. 0:05:00.960 --> 0:05:03.360 When you got guys like Lance and then you got 0:05:03.440 --> 0:05:06.920 potentially Fields on the board to take, I just don't 0:05:06.960 --> 0:05:10.360 see that this happening, and I'm not buying it. One day, 0:05:11.520 --> 0:05:14.680 what is the I mean, I go forward, Dane Well, 0:05:14.680 --> 0:05:18.400 I said, I mean, I agree with you in theory, um, 0:05:19.320 --> 0:05:22.720 because you know, to me, there's Lawrence's the best quarterback 0:05:22.760 --> 0:05:25.120 in this class. Then I have Zach Wilson, and then 0:05:25.240 --> 0:05:28.479 I've got Lance and Fields closely together, and then Mac 0:05:28.520 --> 0:05:31.440 fillings to five. So I agree with you that that 0:05:31.640 --> 0:05:33.880 would make the most sense. When this trade first came down, 0:05:33.960 --> 0:05:36.760 my initial reaction was, Oh, Trey Lance, this is perfect. 0:05:37.000 --> 0:05:40.640 I love the landing, spot, love the match there let's roll. 0:05:41.120 --> 0:05:45.280 But and I'm not saying that I that I think 0:05:45.440 --> 0:05:48.120 Mac Jones should be the pick. I'm saying that you 0:05:48.240 --> 0:05:50.520 talk to people around the league, and that's what they're 0:05:50.520 --> 0:05:53.840 talking about. And this isn't like a case of this 0:05:53.960 --> 0:05:56.240 isn't a case of like, oh, smoke screen and like, 0:05:56.720 --> 0:05:59.880 you know, like we've got player or we've got guys 0:06:00.120 --> 0:06:02.600 with the you know, the Cleveland Browns or the Seattle 0:06:02.640 --> 0:06:06.040 Seahawks telling us something the smoke screen for the forty nine. No, 0:06:06.160 --> 0:06:09.040 that's not what's going on. People in the NFL genuinely 0:06:09.160 --> 0:06:12.320 believe that this is going to be Mac Jones. A 0:06:12.480 --> 0:06:15.000 high percentage of people believe this is going to be 0:06:15.120 --> 0:06:17.160 Mac Jones. Now that doesn't mean it's going to be 0:06:17.600 --> 0:06:21.480 but it's not a media creation. It's not the forty 0:06:21.560 --> 0:06:23.560 nine ers putting it out there that it's going to 0:06:23.640 --> 0:06:25.919 be Mac. This is what a lot of people around 0:06:25.920 --> 0:06:29.200 the NFL believe will happen. And so when you look 0:06:29.279 --> 0:06:32.720 at it, they are sitting there at twelve. You have 0:06:32.800 --> 0:06:36.400 to worry about Carolina at eight, and instead of trying 0:06:36.440 --> 0:06:39.440 to move up to six or five or four, it's 0:06:39.440 --> 0:06:41.440 just say, you know what, let's let's go up to three, 0:06:41.600 --> 0:06:44.600 eliminate all doubt and go and get our guy. And 0:06:45.080 --> 0:06:50.479 so this it is a very very likely scenario where 0:06:50.520 --> 0:06:53.200 mac Jones is the third pick this year. Yeah, and 0:06:53.640 --> 0:06:56.280 again you know if that's if that's the route that 0:06:56.360 --> 0:07:00.120 San Francisco wants to go, that's their evaluation. But I 0:07:00.200 --> 0:07:03.120 also you think about what you you know, and maybe 0:07:03.200 --> 0:07:05.760 these general mansions and let's buy the way. Let me 0:07:05.839 --> 0:07:08.679 get this out there. John Lynch is not the general 0:07:08.760 --> 0:07:14.800 manager in San Francisco. He is entitled title only. Kyle 0:07:14.920 --> 0:07:19.200 Shanahan is the general manager that that organization. Whatever players 0:07:19.280 --> 0:07:21.920 that he wants, he's going to get and he's going 0:07:22.000 --> 0:07:24.840 to move around. He's a good evaluator. The guy has 0:07:24.880 --> 0:07:28.240 a good roster. But for them to give up what 0:07:28.360 --> 0:07:33.480 they did for this, no, no, you just Philadelphia just 0:07:33.600 --> 0:07:35.800 proved to you that their pick is for sale at six. 0:07:36.640 --> 0:07:38.240 They got out of there. I mean they got out 0:07:38.280 --> 0:07:40.480 of there in a heartbeat. They're the ones that I 0:07:40.560 --> 0:07:43.040 think are going to lose in this whole thing because 0:07:43.600 --> 0:07:45.520 they were in that mode where they could have taken 0:07:45.800 --> 0:07:50.040 great skill players there, wide receiver, the tight end. Now 0:07:50.120 --> 0:07:52.480 they're moving back just so they could pick up some 0:07:52.600 --> 0:07:56.360 extra extra first round pick. You know, that's a team 0:07:56.440 --> 0:07:58.680 that's talent poor right now in a lot of areas. 0:07:59.080 --> 0:08:01.880 So I just see these teams again. If you're going 0:08:02.000 --> 0:08:05.960 up there to get ahead of Carolina, you know you 0:08:06.000 --> 0:08:07.880 could have probably done you probably could have done that 0:08:07.960 --> 0:08:10.480 at six and got and got right up there and 0:08:10.680 --> 0:08:14.640 not had to give up what you did to If 0:08:14.760 --> 0:08:18.320 mac Jones is your guy, you can't convince me that 0:08:18.440 --> 0:08:20.920 everybody else in the league ahead of you is gonna 0:08:21.120 --> 0:08:23.800 is gonna take him over the guys like yourself Day 0:08:24.080 --> 0:08:27.000 who are evaluating saying, oh, well, I've got Fields and 0:08:27.080 --> 0:08:31.000 I've got Lance. I guarantee you eighty five percent of 0:08:31.040 --> 0:08:34.199 the boards are going to have it that way too. Sure, yeah, no, 0:08:34.240 --> 0:08:36.720 I agree, But what about if you move up to six, 0:08:37.080 --> 0:08:39.640 then you're working about Carolina at eight jumping you for 0:08:39.920 --> 0:08:43.400 for mac Jones. I mean it's you know, you said 0:08:43.400 --> 0:08:45.599 it at the top ice cream flavors, you know. And 0:08:46.000 --> 0:08:49.839 while I agree we were in agreement here on the 0:08:49.960 --> 0:08:52.920 way the quarterbacks would come off the board if we 0:08:53.040 --> 0:08:57.920 were picking, but that's we're not picking. And so there 0:08:58.080 --> 0:09:02.840 is a realistic possibility here that Kyle Shanahan views Mac 0:09:02.920 --> 0:09:06.040 Jones because look, Let's just let me play Devil's advocate 0:09:06.080 --> 0:09:09.240 here for a second. Why mac Jones should be that pick. 0:09:09.640 --> 0:09:11.360 What are the two most important traits you want in 0:09:11.400 --> 0:09:16.840 a quarterback? Accuracy, decision making. That's top two, and then 0:09:16.880 --> 0:09:18.800 you have to decide if everything else is good enough. 0:09:19.200 --> 0:09:23.000 Mac Jones, you could argue, is the superior quarterback between 0:09:23.480 --> 0:09:25.640 Lance and Fields when you talk about those top two 0:09:25.679 --> 0:09:29.360 traits accuracy and decision making. Now he's not as mobile, 0:09:29.440 --> 0:09:31.719 he doesn't have the same type of arm, and the 0:09:31.840 --> 0:09:34.480 physical traits aren't there. But the top two traits you 0:09:34.520 --> 0:09:37.080 look for at the position, that's where mac Jones gets 0:09:37.120 --> 0:09:40.480 those checks over some of the other quarterbacks. So that's 0:09:40.520 --> 0:09:45.080 me playing Devil's advocates, saying I could understand why Kyle 0:09:45.160 --> 0:09:48.520 Shanahan would want to make that move and for mac 0:09:48.640 --> 0:09:50.959 Jones being the guy, and why he felt like he 0:09:51.040 --> 0:09:53.440 had to go up to three, get ahead of Carolina 0:09:53.480 --> 0:09:56.360 and eliminate all doubt. Now, if Carolina really wants mac Jones, 0:09:56.559 --> 0:09:58.800 they've got to blow away the Jets at number two, 0:09:58.840 --> 0:10:03.360 which is highly unlikely. Mac Jones is not going third. 0:10:04.160 --> 0:10:08.040 Mac Jones is not going third. This is me playing 0:10:08.080 --> 0:10:12.120 my violin on my way down with the Titanic. I 0:10:12.200 --> 0:10:14.400 won't believe it until after that pick has made. There 0:10:14.559 --> 0:10:18.199 is no way Matt Jones is getting picked third. No way, none. 0:10:18.760 --> 0:10:21.760 I'm calling not the credibility. I'm just calling everyone a liar. 0:10:22.240 --> 0:10:26.000 Whoever is telling anyone that is lying. Kyle Shanahan's a liar. 0:10:26.240 --> 0:10:28.560 John Lynch is a liar. They're a bunch of liars. 0:10:28.679 --> 0:10:32.000 Mac Jones ain't going third, so not happening. My question 0:10:32.120 --> 0:10:34.079 with this is, Dane, you've heard this from all of 0:10:34.120 --> 0:10:37.319 your sources, and you've you've kind of put the pieces together, 0:10:37.440 --> 0:10:40.360 and we've heard it certainly throughout the media. But where 0:10:40.480 --> 0:10:43.559 is your confidence level at with this potentially being a thing, 0:10:43.720 --> 0:10:47.040 with mac Jones potentially going third overall, Because I mean 0:10:47.360 --> 0:10:49.400 we'll talk about your top one hundred coming up in 0:10:49.440 --> 0:10:51.760 the third show, but I mean mac Jones is pretty 0:10:51.760 --> 0:10:54.040 far down that list. He's nowhere near the top three. 0:10:54.200 --> 0:10:57.439 So is your confidence level aligning with what you've heard 0:10:57.480 --> 0:11:02.240 from sources my confidence level and mac Jones being the pick? 0:11:02.360 --> 0:11:05.280 Or mac Jones should be the pick? How about both? 0:11:05.520 --> 0:11:09.040 Give me an answer for both? Well, I mean, mac 0:11:09.080 --> 0:11:11.280 Jones for me, is the fifth best quarterback in this class. 0:11:11.640 --> 0:11:15.040 Now I really like Mac Jones. Like, I was finishing 0:11:15.160 --> 0:11:17.360 up The Beast this week, and so I'm proofreading and 0:11:17.480 --> 0:11:20.440 I'm going through my quarterbacks and I'm reading every single 0:11:20.520 --> 0:11:23.719 word in my mac Jones report, and I get done 0:11:23.760 --> 0:11:26.040 with this report and I'm like, man, I really like 0:11:26.160 --> 0:11:29.199 mac Jones. Like he's a really good quarterback. When you 0:11:29.280 --> 0:11:32.840 talk about what you want at the position in terms 0:11:32.880 --> 0:11:35.600 of processing, in terms of ball placement, in terms of poise, 0:11:36.400 --> 0:11:38.959 I think he's got the best deep ball. Doesn't have 0:11:39.040 --> 0:11:40.679 the strongest arm, but I think he's got the best 0:11:40.720 --> 0:11:43.400 deep ball in this class. So there's a lot for 0:11:43.480 --> 0:11:45.760 mac Jones that I like. But with that said, I'd 0:11:45.800 --> 0:11:48.199 still take my chances with the other four quarterbacks before 0:11:48.320 --> 0:11:51.439 I took my chances with him, you know, mainly because 0:11:51.520 --> 0:11:54.000 of you know, they're they're close in those other areas, 0:11:54.040 --> 0:11:57.719 but their physical traits are superior. Now in terms of 0:11:57.880 --> 0:12:00.360 my confidence level and mac Jones actually being the pick, 0:12:01.080 --> 0:12:03.720 I don't this is it's tough. We're a month out 0:12:03.880 --> 0:12:07.040 and what you know, we've been doing this a long time. 0:12:07.160 --> 0:12:10.760 We know that you don't necessarily listen to things you 0:12:10.840 --> 0:12:13.640 hear a month out from the draft, But you know, 0:12:14.360 --> 0:12:16.520 with the forty nine ers at three, they don't need 0:12:16.559 --> 0:12:19.640 a smoke screen anybody. Okay, like this isn't they don't. 0:12:19.679 --> 0:12:23.079 They don't need to fake anybody out. We know, we 0:12:24.200 --> 0:12:27.400 feel really really good, like ninety nine percent sure that 0:12:27.480 --> 0:12:31.240 Trevor Lawrence is going one, and we're about eighty five 0:12:31.360 --> 0:12:34.480 percent sure Zach Wilson's going to Okay, really really sure 0:12:34.480 --> 0:12:36.880 about those first two picks, forty nine ers. Now that 0:12:37.000 --> 0:12:39.600 they start to draft at number three, who are they 0:12:39.640 --> 0:12:41.200 going to draft? I don't know, but they don't need 0:12:41.240 --> 0:12:43.120 to say, you know, they don't need a smoke screen 0:12:43.160 --> 0:12:46.400 anybody in terms of trying to faking anybody out. That's 0:12:46.400 --> 0:12:48.719 just that they don't need to. So the fact that 0:12:48.840 --> 0:12:50.520 so many people that I talked to around the league 0:12:50.559 --> 0:12:53.199 believe it's Mac Jones tells me that there's at least 0:12:53.240 --> 0:12:56.160 something there. The fact that Kyle Shanahan is in Alabama 0:12:56.320 --> 0:13:00.839 this morning, look watching Mac Jones, that's not relevant that 0:13:01.240 --> 0:13:03.599 there is something too. That Kyle Shanahan does not go 0:13:03.679 --> 0:13:06.199 to many pro days, didn't go to Trey Lance's, he 0:13:06.320 --> 0:13:08.160 does not go to many pro days. The fact that 0:13:08.200 --> 0:13:11.880 he is in Tuscaloosa right now, that means something. Even 0:13:11.920 --> 0:13:13.520 if it doesn't, you know, even if we can't say 0:13:13.559 --> 0:13:15.240 for sure he's going to be the pick, that at 0:13:15.320 --> 0:13:19.840 least means something, right, Yeah, there's a lot of people 0:13:19.920 --> 0:13:22.000 that I yeah, there's a lot of people that I trust. 0:13:22.400 --> 0:13:24.959 I'm on the side of I don't believe it's going 0:13:25.000 --> 0:13:27.360 to be the pick. I'm like Jeff, I'll go down 0:13:27.400 --> 0:13:30.120 with the shift. You know. I think that I think 0:13:30.200 --> 0:13:32.800 that San Francisco is trying to be more clever than 0:13:32.880 --> 0:13:35.800 everybody else. I really do. I think they're trying to 0:13:35.880 --> 0:13:39.480 divert our attention. This stuff is too clean. I mean, 0:13:39.800 --> 0:13:43.960 you know, when it comes to quarterbacks, we generally don't 0:13:44.200 --> 0:13:47.480 hear who people like. We don't And now all of 0:13:47.520 --> 0:13:50.120 a sudden, we all know that San Francisco's in love 0:13:50.280 --> 0:13:53.480 with Mac Jones. Not that's not going to work in 0:13:53.600 --> 0:13:58.120 my book. In draft rooms, that's the one position you protect. 0:13:58.640 --> 0:14:01.480 You protect the quarterback, you know, and but you try 0:14:01.520 --> 0:14:04.640 and protect all your all your picks too. But in 0:14:04.720 --> 0:14:07.760 this case, the fact that everybody now has got Mac 0:14:07.840 --> 0:14:10.599 Jones going there, and the hard thing about it is 0:14:10.679 --> 0:14:14.640 the people who studied the tape really don't believe it. 0:14:15.240 --> 0:14:18.000 Because Drew watched the other players, and you're saying, how 0:14:18.040 --> 0:14:20.760 could you not take it the more talented players? That 0:14:20.920 --> 0:14:23.720 goes against everything you believe. Now, this is a position 0:14:23.880 --> 0:14:28.120 that that people look at it different. Kyle Shanahan's idea 0:14:28.160 --> 0:14:32.840 completely different from everyone else's idea of what a quarterback takes. Dan, 0:14:32.960 --> 0:14:36.600 you brought it up accuracy. You know, that's that's important. 0:14:36.880 --> 0:14:39.640 You know, talk about the deep ball stuff, that's important. 0:14:39.920 --> 0:14:43.440 You know. I just think that to me, the fact 0:14:43.520 --> 0:14:46.160 that we know who the San Francisco forty nine ers 0:14:46.160 --> 0:14:49.400 are going to pick at quarterback is hard to believe, 0:14:49.800 --> 0:14:54.280 especially at this point in time. Three years ago, a 0:14:54.400 --> 0:14:56.000 month before the draft. If I would have told you 0:14:56.080 --> 0:14:58.360 Baker Mayfield is going to be the top pick to 0:14:58.520 --> 0:15:01.680 the Browns, we'd be say the same thing. We weren't. No, 0:15:01.760 --> 0:15:04.040 we weren't talking about Baker Mayfield as a even a 0:15:04.200 --> 0:15:07.400 thought at number one until twenty four hours before the draft. 0:15:07.760 --> 0:15:10.560 That's right, that's right, And and and what happened is 0:15:10.800 --> 0:15:13.920 and your sources, in my sources of John Dorsey said 0:15:14.320 --> 0:15:17.480 he was looking for a quarterback that when everybody went 0:15:17.560 --> 0:15:19.680 into that locker room, they would look at and say, 0:15:20.040 --> 0:15:22.440 that's a leader, that's our guy in that's what we 0:15:22.560 --> 0:15:26.840 want to play for. Okay, maybe that's exactly, but again, 0:15:27.480 --> 0:15:31.800 you protect your quarterback list with your life. You protect 0:15:32.080 --> 0:15:34.000 un listen to the Dallas Cowboys. You try and protect 0:15:34.080 --> 0:15:37.280 your board too in Lana that the board gets out, Yeah, 0:15:37.840 --> 0:15:39.840 sometime gets out of it every once in a while. 0:15:40.440 --> 0:15:43.120 But to me, this is where and again, a lot 0:15:43.200 --> 0:15:46.360 of smart people, a lot of really plugged in people, 0:15:46.760 --> 0:15:50.720 I just don't it's two. If we found this out 0:15:50.760 --> 0:15:55.680 the night before the draft, I dig it right now. Nope, 0:15:55.920 --> 0:15:58.120 not at all. You think it's just two in front, 0:15:58.200 --> 0:16:02.360 two out there in the open front. And that's exactly 0:16:02.440 --> 0:16:07.440 what teams don't want to do. Absolutely, you do not 0:16:07.600 --> 0:16:10.640 want to telegraph if if in fact you're if teams 0:16:10.640 --> 0:16:13.720 are sitting in their room right now and you're say, 0:16:14.000 --> 0:16:17.280 and you're Carolina, you know, maybe you do try and 0:16:17.320 --> 0:16:20.840 blow the Jets away. Maybe maybe you say, you know what, hey, 0:16:20.880 --> 0:16:23.880 if you guys will drop down here to eight, we'll 0:16:23.960 --> 0:16:26.200 give you this. We'll make a deal better than what 0:16:26.360 --> 0:16:29.520 San Francisco gave you for No. But they might pick 0:16:29.640 --> 0:16:32.480 Wilson still, you know, they might get the guy that 0:16:32.560 --> 0:16:35.640 they want. But I to me, this is this is 0:16:36.120 --> 0:16:39.000 this happened way way too early in the process for 0:16:39.120 --> 0:16:42.960 me to really believe in it. So let me ask 0:16:43.000 --> 0:16:45.920 you this. Now we'll get away from that number three pick. 0:16:46.480 --> 0:16:49.960 Do you foresee any more trades happening between now and 0:16:50.000 --> 0:16:52.480 because I think we're going to see some trades. You know, 0:16:52.560 --> 0:16:57.080 we can look at Carolina den right, Well, Carolina Denver 0:16:57.200 --> 0:17:00.720 at nine, you have the Patriots at fifteen. But my 0:17:00.840 --> 0:17:02.280 question is do you think we're gonna see some of 0:17:02.320 --> 0:17:04.800 those trades between now in the draft or do you 0:17:04.840 --> 0:17:07.240 think this is going to be We're gonna wait and 0:17:07.320 --> 0:17:10.760 see who goes three, and then that's when we're gonna 0:17:10.800 --> 0:17:13.080 see some trade action go on. I think you're gonna 0:17:13.119 --> 0:17:15.520 have some people that are gonna set some stuff up 0:17:16.040 --> 0:17:18.320 that they're gonna have some like listen, when if we 0:17:18.400 --> 0:17:20.760 go on the clock and our guys not there, you're 0:17:20.800 --> 0:17:25.399 gonna have some some pre some pre trade discussions with 0:17:25.640 --> 0:17:29.440 some teams. I if I'm to Dallas Cowboys, every mock draft, 0:17:29.520 --> 0:17:31.800 Jeff and I as we do a radio show every day, 0:17:32.280 --> 0:17:34.200 Jeff and I do like a big board report. We 0:17:34.320 --> 0:17:37.679 go through the mocks. Jeff tells me how many offensive 0:17:37.720 --> 0:17:41.480 players are taken in those mocks before defensive players taken. 0:17:41.920 --> 0:17:46.240 Every single time, it's nine offensive players every single time. 0:17:46.320 --> 0:17:49.720 It appears that way. Nobody's putting Parsons up there anymore. 0:17:50.160 --> 0:17:54.000 Nobody's putting Farley up there anymore. Nobody's putting those guys 0:17:54.160 --> 0:17:57.680 up there anymore. It's all these, all these offensive players. 0:17:58.119 --> 0:18:00.520 And if you're if you're somebody that thinks you want 0:18:00.560 --> 0:18:02.600 to get the best, now that Farley's got that injury, 0:18:03.040 --> 0:18:05.200 if you're a team that wants the best quarter, and 0:18:05.280 --> 0:18:08.359 you think cur Tan is the best quarner, go trade 0:18:08.400 --> 0:18:11.520 with Denver because there's a chance of Dallas. He's Tan Dane. 0:18:11.560 --> 0:18:13.959 I saw your top I saw your top one hundred 0:18:14.560 --> 0:18:17.120 or your top ten. You've got Certan at number ten. 0:18:17.359 --> 0:18:19.600 I see what you're doing. I see what you're doing. 0:18:20.280 --> 0:18:22.520 He's your first he's your first defensive player, isn't he 0:18:22.800 --> 0:18:26.720 yep on the board? Yeah, yea, Here you go Denver 0:18:27.640 --> 0:18:29.800 Horns not too far behind. Do you think there's an 0:18:29.840 --> 0:18:33.960 opportunity that even Denver could trade up to go get 0:18:34.000 --> 0:18:36.720 a guy. Maybe if they wanted that fourth quarterback off 0:18:36.760 --> 0:18:38.560 the board, they go up and try and maybe trade 0:18:38.760 --> 0:18:43.639 at Yes, you do not do not dismiss Denver as 0:18:43.640 --> 0:18:46.000 a possibility to go get one of these quarterbacks. I'm 0:18:46.040 --> 0:18:49.080 telling you, especially if a bad quarterback goes third overall, 0:18:49.160 --> 0:18:50.640 you really want to go get one of the good, 0:18:50.840 --> 0:18:53.240 one of the warder ones. That's it. If you're Denver, 0:18:54.119 --> 0:18:57.360 you move up two spots, get ahead of Carolina, get 0:18:57.440 --> 0:19:00.320 your trade Lance, you know, get your justin Field. Who 0:19:00.400 --> 0:19:02.240 knows the thing is is we have a new general manage. 0:19:02.680 --> 0:19:04.960 You think Cincinnati at five would really trade with you? 0:19:05.359 --> 0:19:08.240 You think Cincinnati would five would trade, No, because they're 0:19:08.280 --> 0:19:10.360 gonna be staring down the barrel of either Kyle Pits 0:19:10.480 --> 0:19:14.359 or pass unless what do you think my mean? I 0:19:14.480 --> 0:19:17.720 said at seven? Look, if Denver wanted to move up, well, 0:19:17.800 --> 0:19:20.200 Denver could move up to four. At Atlanta. We don't 0:19:20.200 --> 0:19:22.320 Atlanta as a wild card. They could take a quarterback. 0:19:22.520 --> 0:19:25.200 They might not take a quarterback. But if Denver wants 0:19:25.240 --> 0:19:28.000 to get you know, Trey Lance, they move up to 0:19:28.119 --> 0:19:30.840 number four and get your guy, and then you know 0:19:30.880 --> 0:19:33.840 you're left with Carolina. They're just gonna stand pat and 0:19:34.080 --> 0:19:36.280 see if Fields falls to them. I don't know. I 0:19:36.440 --> 0:19:39.120 think I think that if you're Denver, if John Elway 0:19:39.200 --> 0:19:41.520 was still the general manager at Denver, I'd buy what 0:19:41.640 --> 0:19:46.720 you're saying. But George Payton, no, no, I think we've 0:19:46.800 --> 0:19:50.879 never seen Picky. But we've never seen him as a pig. 0:19:51.040 --> 0:19:53.480 Gimme picks, gimme picks, give me picks, give me picks. 0:19:53.640 --> 0:19:55.600 That's what we've never seen him as a general manager. 0:19:55.680 --> 0:20:00.280 We don't have a sample size of him may the 0:20:00.359 --> 0:20:03.760 picks to know you know exactly what his philosophy is 0:20:03.800 --> 0:20:05.920 going to be. If he feels like there's a quarterback 0:20:06.200 --> 0:20:08.800 that's a clear upgrade over Drew Locke and is going 0:20:08.880 --> 0:20:11.760 to take this organization in the right direction, I don't 0:20:11.840 --> 0:20:13.879 Denver's not too far off. They did. They made a 0:20:13.960 --> 0:20:17.360 lot of smart moves on defense this offseason. So I'm 0:20:17.400 --> 0:20:19.440 just saying Denver's intriguing. I'm not saying they're going to 0:20:19.480 --> 0:20:21.840 get a quarterback, but I would not dismiss them as 0:20:21.840 --> 0:20:24.240 an option there, you know, real quick, before we move on, 0:20:24.440 --> 0:20:28.120 what Miami moving the twelve and then up to six. 0:20:28.440 --> 0:20:30.480 What do you think Miami does it six and Philly 0:20:30.520 --> 0:20:33.040 does it twelve? I would like to start with I 0:20:33.080 --> 0:20:37.080 don't think that trade makes sense for Miami. The Miami 0:20:37.240 --> 0:20:41.160 the second part of it, because you went down which 0:20:41.280 --> 0:20:44.399 that's fine, and you accumulated a bunch of picks, but 0:20:44.520 --> 0:20:48.840 you came back up without totally knowing what's going to 0:20:48.880 --> 0:20:51.680 be available, unless you're just like, that's what I don't understand, 0:20:51.840 --> 0:20:57.080 is it. Unless Miami feels really really good about two 0:20:57.200 --> 0:21:01.720 or three different pass catchers, then that yeah, because that 0:21:02.119 --> 0:21:04.360 plan otherwise, because at twelve, there's a chance you miss 0:21:04.400 --> 0:21:07.119 out on all of them. So in that way, it 0:21:07.200 --> 0:21:09.040 makes sense. But it's just it's kind of it's kind 0:21:09.040 --> 0:21:10.720 of strange to watch a team go from twelve to 0:21:10.840 --> 0:21:14.280 six and they can't know for sure who they're picking, 0:21:14.720 --> 0:21:18.000 because they can't know for sure that DeVante Smith or 0:21:18.600 --> 0:21:22.160 Jamar Chase or Kyle Pitts or Jalen Waddle, like, yes, 0:21:22.400 --> 0:21:25.400 at least one and probably all but one will be there, 0:21:25.760 --> 0:21:27.160 So I guess you just have to be in love 0:21:27.240 --> 0:21:31.720 with multiple players there. Yeah, So they just certainly, yeah, 0:21:31.840 --> 0:21:35.879