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Speaker 1: Every day a week, clicks up the Breakfast Club, Finish

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Speaker 1: for y'all.

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Speaker 2: Done, morning everybody.

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Speaker 3: It's the j n V. Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne the God

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Speaker 3: we are the Breakfast Club. Lona Ros is here as well.

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Speaker 3: We got a special guest in the building.

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Speaker 1: Man, another culture like we having a weaker culture.

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Speaker 3: Ai Alan Chuck whatever you want to call him, Mster

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Speaker 3: seven five seven.

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Speaker 2: He's in the building.

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Speaker 3: New book Misunderstood is out right now Alan Ovis. Ladies

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Speaker 3: and gentlemen, are you feeling man?

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Speaker 2: Good life? Life be life in the same fight, different round,

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Speaker 2: you know what I mean? I want to how much

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Speaker 2: sound we got me because I don't know where it's

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Speaker 2: gonna go. But look, man, friends, all right, so I

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Speaker 2: know you know what type of I mean. I'm just mean, Jess,

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Speaker 2: But you know, you know how you get to know

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Speaker 2: somebody from afar and you get basically kind of tell

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Speaker 2: what type of person they are. You know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: Obviously I've known you since I was in high school

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Speaker 2: and big fan of you, bro move close. I'm bad friendships, Man,

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Speaker 2: It's hard, you know what I mean? Because when you

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Speaker 2: think about your friends, obviously you know you can't choose

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Speaker 2: your family members, you know what I mean, you're born

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Speaker 2: into that. But your friends, you feel like, you know,

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Speaker 2: y'all got so much in common with each other, and

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Speaker 2: you have so much love for them because you know

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Speaker 2: they kind of like a basically a reflection of you,

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Speaker 2: or you got the same type of things in common

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Speaker 2: or whatever, and you just grow to love them like family.

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Speaker 2: They become you know, the guys become brothers, and your

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Speaker 2: homegirls become your sisters. But it's rough man navigating through that,

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Speaker 2: you know what I mean. I know how much I

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Speaker 2: love my family, my friends. I got so much when

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Speaker 2: I first got into the league, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: It was the entourage, bringing homeboys from where you're from.

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Speaker 2: You trust them so much, you love them. You want

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Speaker 2: them to go on the ride with you. You want

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Speaker 2: them to take this journey, you know through it. It's

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Speaker 2: new to me. I've been poor all my whole life,

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Speaker 2: and then snap of a finger, I'm rich and famous

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Speaker 2: and it's a lot, you know what I mean. So

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Speaker 2: you want to have so many people around you that

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Speaker 2: you love me and you trust, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: And the money man just you know what I mean,

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Speaker 2: It's just you know what I mean, and it's it's

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Speaker 2: it's so different from me, and it's so hard for

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Speaker 2: me because with my athletic ability that I was blessed with.

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Speaker 2: I've been like this since I was eight years old.

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Speaker 2: Like I always felt that I was rich, but I

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Speaker 2: was poor. I always been famous, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: When I was eight years old, I go into barbershop

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Speaker 2: and guys, I'm a teen, eighteen, twenty twenty five years old,

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Speaker 2: Guys like, oh shit, there you go. You know that's

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Speaker 2: the one right there, that's him. So it's always been

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Speaker 2: that for me. I always had that attention, you know

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Speaker 2: what I mean. I always been like that. And you know,

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Speaker 2: once I got some money, it was no different from me.

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Speaker 2: Obviously I could do things with my family and my

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Speaker 2: friends that I couldn't do before. You know, that's that

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Speaker 2: goes without saying. And I've never had a person you

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Speaker 2: know my nickname obviously, you know my name, Chuck. You know,

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Speaker 2: I never heard a person say, you know, once Chuck

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Speaker 2: got some money, he changed, Once Chuck got to the NBA,

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Speaker 2: he changed, you know what I mean. I've never heard that,

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Speaker 2: you know before, because you know, the people that know

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Speaker 2: know I'm meet you know what I mean. That's one

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Speaker 2: of my biggest fears, or had been one of my

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Speaker 2: able to recognize you know, well my mom and the

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Speaker 2: people that I loved. Not be able to recognize who

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Speaker 2: I see, you know what I mean, meant something to me.

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Speaker 2: But man, just the painful lessons of friends not being

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Speaker 2: who you think they they are. When you add the

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Speaker 2: It happens, and the reason definitely, it happens all the time.

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Speaker 2: But I feel a pendulum swinging in another direction as

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Speaker 2: far as how I feel about it, like how it

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Speaker 2: used to hurt me. You know what I mean. You

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Speaker 2: you tell someone you want to find out if somebody

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Speaker 2: their reaction with what was said all you know what

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Speaker 2: I mean? Chuck a man, I got a business, you know, opportunity.

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Speaker 2: I want to start this. I want to start that

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Speaker 2: man can give me a hundred thousand and you don't

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Speaker 2: even have to tell them no. You can say not

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Speaker 2: right now, you know later on. But these are the

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Speaker 2: same people pay their rent, pay that over the years,

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Speaker 2: child support. You know what I mean? You know, pay

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Speaker 2: your mom rent. You know this, that lawyer lay. Every

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Speaker 2: time you go to a jewelry store, you're taking them,

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Speaker 2: you know, because the most awkward feeling is you know,

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Speaker 2: for me, this is just me growing up, being young

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Speaker 2: and not knowing early in the preliminary stages of getting

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Speaker 2: want to be shining and looking good and my homeboys not.

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Speaker 2: So when I go see Manny, you know what I mean,

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Speaker 2: they going You know what I mean, When I get cars,

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Speaker 2: they get cars, you know what I mean. Like, and

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Speaker 2: you know it's just like when you tell them no,

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Speaker 2: the way they you know they act. You know, somebody

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Speaker 2: saying this, yo, man, what's up with your man? They are?

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Speaker 2: You know, what's up with a man? Fuck that nigga?

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Speaker 4: Dangn You know what I mean, Like after reading your book,

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Speaker 4: nobody's your question.

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Speaker 2: You're loyal?

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Speaker 1: You'll ever say you took care of me.

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Speaker 3: I'm what you've seen. But do you regret that? Because

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Speaker 3: I mean, Virginia, that's you everywhere.

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Speaker 2: That's what I say. Dependingum is swinging. That's That's why

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Speaker 2: I say or feel that my maturation is on a

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Speaker 2: act for me telling them no, like you know what

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Speaker 2: I mean. Like it's like I feel myself not giving

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Speaker 2: the damn anymore, Like you know what I mean. Like

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Speaker 2: I'm talking about the same people that come to me,

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Speaker 2: you know, be at my practice eight o'clock in the morning,

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Speaker 2: you know, Christmas Eve, saying what their kids don't have?

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Speaker 2: You know what I mean. One thing about the people

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Speaker 2: that you love, people that love you or supposed to

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Speaker 2: know my heart. You throw your kids in there, you

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Speaker 2: know what I mean. Everybody know Christmas on the twenty

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Speaker 2: But man, my kids ain't gonna have nothing, you know

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Speaker 2: what I mean, what I supposed to do.

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Speaker 4: Something you said in the book that hit me too

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Speaker 4: is you was like, man, you was that kid, so

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Speaker 4: you understood what it felt it not have when they

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Speaker 1: You was like, I gotta do.

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Speaker 2: And I had the mother and the father that hustled

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Speaker 2: to get us what they could, but they couldn't get

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Speaker 2: us things. You know, I wanted ope d for Christmas.

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Speaker 2: I wanted certain things and then you wake up that

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Speaker 2: a you know, past sneakers or T shirt and that

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Speaker 2: So you know, I ain't never want my homeboys kids

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Speaker 2: like i've years ago, it's you know, I ran into

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Speaker 2: the craziest shit. But years ago, you know, money got funny,

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Speaker 2: you know what I mean? And you know I had

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Speaker 2: realized at a point like I ain't have the word

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Speaker 2: knowing my vocabulary when it comes to people, you know

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Speaker 2: what I mean, Like I was so used to I

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Speaker 2: never held anybody accountable for why I had to be

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Speaker 2: I was the one going to work every single day.

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Speaker 2: I was breaking bones, stitches on the stitches in my face,

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Speaker 2: taught me a lot, man. And now you know, I know,

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Speaker 2: life be lifeing, But to be still dealing with those

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Speaker 2: wake up, and some people wake up in their life

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Speaker 2: just not what they wanted to be. And the first

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Speaker 2: you know, figure out some way that I can blame

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Speaker 2: it on somebody else to why my life is not

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Speaker 2: what it is?

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Speaker 3: And do you ever have impasta syndrome? And the reason

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Speaker 3: I asked if you talk about all that?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 3: And I remember the Bowling Alley incident in Virginia, and

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Speaker 3: it feels like, regardless of what happened in VA, you

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Speaker 3: always came back and you always wanted to show the love.

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Speaker 3: No matter what happened. You talk about the people you

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Speaker 3: have been racist back then. It was really racist back then.

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Speaker 3: We all seen it. But you still came back to

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Speaker 2: I am I am VA. It's me, It's Amy, you

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Speaker 2: know what I mean. And the crazy, crazy thing about

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Speaker 2: I was just talking to my man about this before

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Speaker 2: the stuff, you know, all my media runs and all that.

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Speaker 2: Yesterday I just signed a thousand books and you know,

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Speaker 2: take a thousand pictures, you know what I mean? With

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Speaker 2: the people that bought the books beautiful, but I was,

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Speaker 2: you know, I was tired, and right after that as

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Speaker 2: my daughter's birthday, and I had to you know, she

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Speaker 2: take care of her after all of that, and I

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Speaker 2: got done. Maybe I started at six, got done like

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Speaker 2: maybe ten o'clock. She wanted to go bowling and wanted

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Speaker 2: to go to a escape room. Okay, but I had

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Speaker 2: no idea that that the escape room was like you're

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Speaker 2: in a jail scene, you know what I mean. I'm like, yo,

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Speaker 2: this this is your life for real, Like, out of

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Speaker 2: all the places that she want to go on her birthday,

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Speaker 2: bold in a jail. You know.

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Speaker 5: she probably figured out how.

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Speaker 2: To get But you know, I'm thinking, like the last

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Speaker 2: place I want to be from my memory right in

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Speaker 2: jail bowling out, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 4: So I mean, I want to go back to your

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Speaker 4: friend's thing real quick, right because even in the book,

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Speaker 4: there's nobody that felt like that was around you that

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Speaker 4: didn't help you in some way, shape or form. So

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Speaker 4: you was repaying them, Like you talk about how when

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Speaker 4: you was in jail, they was taking care of your mom,

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Speaker 4: and they were the ones that would tell you, you know,

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Speaker 4: you know, you're not gonna be hustling, You're gonna be

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Speaker 4: playing ball. So it wasn't like you just had a

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Speaker 4: bunch of leeches around you. There's people that looked out

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Speaker 4: for you, so you look back out for them.

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Speaker 2: You know what I would have I would have done

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Speaker 2: it anyway. Like I ain't never expected like if I

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Speaker 2: if I you know, if I look out for one

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Speaker 4: Right now it's Charles Barkley and a whole bunch of

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Speaker 2: And you know you think you know. Coach Thompson used

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Speaker 2: You're always listening to somebody that's never been to you know,

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Speaker 3: Now you talk about your BC plan, right, you see

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Speaker 3: what Michael Vick's doing with Norfolk State. Absolutely have you

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Speaker 1: No?

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Speaker 2: Why not?

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Speaker 3: Because they would listen to you, right, especially if you

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Speaker 2: I've been, I've been one of the players, you know

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Speaker 2: what I mean, Like you have a unique talent, you

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Speaker 2: for what that's why? Is it god given talent? Any

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Speaker 1: Not even NBA coaches.

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Speaker 4: You talk about in the book how you filed out

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Speaker 1: I think that was in high school, baby, and you

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Speaker 1: I want to ask you about the title of the book.

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Speaker 4: Man, do you think you were misunderstood that the title

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Speaker 2: You're smart, dude, sometimes a lot. This is one of

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Speaker 2: My corn rolls. I got corn rolls because I was

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Speaker 2: You can't prepare for that, brow.

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Speaker 3: How was that pressure though? Because the nicest player, right,

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Speaker 3: But you changed culture. But when you changed the culture,

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Speaker 3: You never folded, even though they could have said, they

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Speaker 2: But you never folded.

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Speaker 3: You never back down and you kept it that way,

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Speaker 2: Why was that they profited off of too, you know

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Speaker 2: They wanted me on a magazine because of my talent

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Speaker 2: off or you want me but you you know, you

433
00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:49,879
Speaker 2: want some of me. I took the ass with it

434
00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:53,440
Speaker 2: for it. But the dress code thing, like I actually

435
00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:56,440
Speaker 2: was just you know what I mean, I was twenty one.

436
00:21:56,640 --> 00:21:58,679
Speaker 2: Where am I going after the game? Going to the club,

437
00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:01,560
Speaker 2: you know what I mean? Like before that, they were

438
00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:04,440
Speaker 2: used to dudes wearing soups, and you know what I mean,

439
00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:07,320
Speaker 2: I was like, damn, Like I've never worn a soup

440
00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:09,880
Speaker 2: growing up. I'm going to church or to a funeral.

441
00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:16,879
Speaker 2: The only time I put in them in the courtroom.

442
00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:24,600
Speaker 2: Definitely in the courtroom. So I never wore a soup

443
00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:27,159
Speaker 2: to the to the gym, to play, to the to

444
00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:30,240
Speaker 2: the park, sweatsuit, you know what I mean, or whatever.

445
00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:32,800
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. So I ain't think I

446
00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:34,760
Speaker 2: ain't think nothing of it, you know what I mean.

447
00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:37,080
Speaker 2: And then you know I got some money. So the

448
00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:39,119
Speaker 2: jewelry and I always had a fetish, me and my

449
00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:41,159
Speaker 2: mom since I was a little kid, you know what

450
00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:43,720
Speaker 2: I mean. It's always been like that. So you know,

451
00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:48,159
Speaker 2: I remember being and and uh in college and my

452
00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:50,439
Speaker 2: teammates like, yo, when you get to the lead man,

453
00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:52,680
Speaker 2: you're gonna get the jewelry, like park, you know what

454
00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:54,920
Speaker 2: I mean. You're gonna have the jewelry like puff, you

455
00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:57,240
Speaker 2: know what I mean? Yeah, you know, and the first thing,

456
00:22:57,359 --> 00:22:59,080
Speaker 2: like when the first thing I did was come up

457
00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:02,520
Speaker 2: here and went to Tito. You know what I'm saying,

458
00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:06,000
Speaker 2: Like I didn't think nothing. I was living, you know

459
00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:09,120
Speaker 2: what I mean. And David Stern and rested the meay

460
00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:11,320
Speaker 2: was like nah, because it was all right when I

461
00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:14,040
Speaker 2: was doing it, But then everybody else said, okay, like

462
00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:17,520
Speaker 2: he can do that, we can do this. So then everybody,

463
00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:19,439
Speaker 2: you know, you see Kobe coming in with the diamond

464
00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:22,320
Speaker 2: chains on and the baggy clothes, and you know, everybody

465
00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:23,959
Speaker 2: started doing it. Then the league was like, hold on,

466
00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:27,560
Speaker 2: we gotta do something about that. So it wasn't it

467
00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:30,840
Speaker 2: wasn't anything malicious like and that and that. That whole

468
00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:33,360
Speaker 2: situation showed me a lot and it proved a lot

469
00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:36,879
Speaker 2: to me at a young age about stereotyping people. Because

470
00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:39,400
Speaker 2: you know, when you seen John Gotti, John Gotty kept

471
00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:42,400
Speaker 2: on the two thousand dollars suit, but what was he

472
00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:44,480
Speaker 2: He get busy, you know what I mean. So it

473
00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:47,240
Speaker 2: ain't about what you got on. You watched reservoir dogs,

474
00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:49,399
Speaker 2: what they have on when they when they robbed that

475
00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:53,280
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. So it ain't about you know,

476
00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:55,560
Speaker 2: what you got on on the outside, who you are.

477
00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:57,320
Speaker 3: And they said that bother you the most when they

478
00:23:57,760 --> 00:23:58,600
Speaker 3: labeled you a thug.

479
00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:02,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I mean, I'll be cool with

480
00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:10,000
Speaker 2: I'll be cool with you know, a street dude. Cool

481
00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:13,120
Speaker 2: with that, because that's what I am. I mean, that's

482
00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:15,560
Speaker 2: where I come from. That's all I've ever been around

483
00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:18,440
Speaker 2: my life. That's what I grew up around, you know

484
00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:23,640
Speaker 2: what I mean. But a thug like h nah, that's

485
00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:25,120
Speaker 2: a that's a stretch.

486
00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:27,360
Speaker 1: I was wondering would you change things?

487
00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:29,440
Speaker 4: And the reason I asked that because even in the book,

488
00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:32,680
Speaker 4: you understood you had to wear a suit the court,

489
00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:35,400
Speaker 4: but you didn't want to do it for press conferences.

490
00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:38,160
Speaker 2: In the NBA, I was bad advice like I was.

491
00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:44,320
Speaker 2: I was, you know, I was told to take a uh,

492
00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:47,840
Speaker 2: go to trial and go off whatever the judge say,

493
00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:51,800
Speaker 2: opposed to having a jury. That was bad, you know

494
00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:53,760
Speaker 2: what I mean. Some of that I was getting advice

495
00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:56,760
Speaker 2: from people that never had been through it, you know

496
00:24:56,800 --> 00:25:00,280
Speaker 2: what I mean. I was told that if I was suit,

497
00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:05,120
Speaker 2: then they'd be lenient. I was. I was extremely wrong.

498
00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:06,200
Speaker 1: So you wish you to just water.

499
00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:14,159
Speaker 2: I'm not I remember I remember that same suit. I

500
00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:16,520
Speaker 2: was a in a sale. It was one hundred degrees

501
00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:19,960
Speaker 2: with no fans in there, and the older sale. I

502
00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:23,600
Speaker 2: was in a four man cell with fifteen people, you

503
00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:25,120
Speaker 2: know what I mean, and that suit. When they came

504
00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:27,760
Speaker 2: got me, I was in the corner with my boxes on,

505
00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:30,359
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, soaking wet, and the suit

506
00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:32,159
Speaker 2: was balled up in the corner. When they came and

507
00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:34,120
Speaker 2: got me out of there, I had on my boxes,

508
00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:37,080
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. So I don't know what.

509
00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:39,040
Speaker 2: Do you regret anything?

510
00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:40,760
Speaker 1: Nah?

511
00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:42,960
Speaker 2: Because I wouldn't be who I am now, you know

512
00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:45,240
Speaker 2: what I mean. Anybody, if I died and came back,

513
00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:49,480
Speaker 2: I would, man, I'd rather be me all over again.

514
00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:52,480
Speaker 2: But if I change everything. If I knew it was coming,

515
00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:55,280
Speaker 2: anybody going, if you're going down of one way street,

516
00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:57,240
Speaker 2: you're gonna get on the right side of the road.

517
00:25:57,240 --> 00:25:59,320
Speaker 2: You see the tract, the trailer coming, you know it's coming,

518
00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:03,879
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. That prepared me to be

519
00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:06,200
Speaker 2: the man that I am today. I had to take

520
00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:10,160
Speaker 2: this ass whooping with the dress code. So now look

521
00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:13,159
Speaker 2: at everybody, everybody give me my flowers. For that, you

522
00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:16,240
Speaker 2: know what I mean, for you got them all these personalities.

523
00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:20,000
Speaker 2: Why would everybody dress the same? You got different basketball games?

524
00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:23,080
Speaker 2: Why everybody look the same? You got different games? And

525
00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:25,440
Speaker 2: people feel good about this? So when you I love

526
00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:28,600
Speaker 2: it thinking about you know when I when when it's

527
00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:31,080
Speaker 2: time to go somewhere, trying to go to the club

528
00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:34,840
Speaker 2: or whatever. I ain't battling with the dudes at the club,

529
00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:37,040
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. I can't wait to meet

530
00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:40,280
Speaker 2: everybody downstairs and see what everybody got on. You know

531
00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:43,000
Speaker 2: what I mean. Like I want to be you know,

532
00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:45,800
Speaker 2: I want to be smoother than my man, you know

533
00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:48,040
Speaker 2: what I mean, Like that make you feel good, you

534
00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:49,919
Speaker 2: look good, you play good even on the court. I

535
00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:53,280
Speaker 2: wanted to look like a superhero like Michael Jordan used

536
00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:56,520
Speaker 2: to look. You know what I mean, Like I wouldn't.

537
00:26:56,520 --> 00:27:01,440
Speaker 2: I wouldn't. I wouldn't. I wouldn't change I wouldn't change anything,

538
00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:03,879
Speaker 2: man in my life, all of these experience, even with

539
00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:08,280
Speaker 2: the book. Man, it's like I love like my girl

540
00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:10,439
Speaker 2: always talk to me about why do you let like

541
00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:12,919
Speaker 2: what I started talking about in the beginning, why do

542
00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:14,640
Speaker 2: you let that type of shit bother you?

543
00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:16,520
Speaker 1: And I like practice press.

544
00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:21,040
Speaker 2: No, just just what my friends, how people you know

545
00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:24,040
Speaker 2: what I mean, It's like why and I don't know,

546
00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:26,200
Speaker 2: you know what I mean? Like I love the people

547
00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:28,520
Speaker 2: that I love, and it hurt when they show you

548
00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:31,359
Speaker 2: who they really are because I'm thinking you somebody else,

549
00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:34,040
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, And she like, you know,

550
00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:36,080
Speaker 2: why do you stress out over stuff like that? And

551
00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:39,719
Speaker 2: you different you have a talent and you you're blessed

552
00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:42,720
Speaker 2: to be able to brush that stuff off. It's hard

553
00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:48,000
Speaker 2: for me now. My talent obviously is you know, legendary

554
00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:51,439
Speaker 2: with who. But I think another blessed blessing that I

555
00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:54,760
Speaker 2: have is to be an open book, to be someone.

556
00:27:54,840 --> 00:28:00,239
Speaker 2: I'm embarrassed by practice Rent, I'm embarrassed about uh, not

557
00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:03,439
Speaker 2: really embarrassed. But it wasn't smart for me to, you know,

558
00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:07,639
Speaker 2: because I remember, you know, people telling me Ai, you

559
00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:11,600
Speaker 2: cannot take care of everybody, and I used to let

560
00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:13,640
Speaker 2: it go on one air and write out the other like, yo,

561
00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:15,520
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. I'm gonna be the exception

562
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:17,280
Speaker 2: to the rule. I'm gonna take care of the people

563
00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:20,359
Speaker 2: that I love like that's just me, you know what

564
00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:20,760
Speaker 2: I mean.

565
00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:25,879
Speaker 5: And I think that's why I hurt you so bad,

566
00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:28,480
Speaker 5: because your heart, isn't it You love these people? You know, yeah,

567
00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:30,920
Speaker 5: yeah you're superman, but you still have a heart, you

568
00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:31,440
Speaker 5: know what I mean.

569
00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:34,119
Speaker 2: And you like, but this is but this is my

570
00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:36,639
Speaker 2: this is my gift, Like this is my gift to

571
00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:40,560
Speaker 2: this book, this, this documentary. My experience is the turbulent,

572
00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:44,800
Speaker 2: the ups and downs. Like, uh, if one kid or

573
00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:47,960
Speaker 2: one adult whatever read this book and they can take

574
00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:49,840
Speaker 2: something from it. I have people come to me all

575
00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:52,480
Speaker 2: the time be like, yo, man, you inspired my life. Man,

576
00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:54,000
Speaker 2: I would have died if it was for you. I

577
00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:55,720
Speaker 2: would have went to jail for the rest of my life.

578
00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:58,360
Speaker 2: You know what I mean, Like you changed my life.

579
00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:01,760
Speaker 2: You know, you inspire me. You know your story and

580
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:04,640
Speaker 2: this that and the third like and that that motivate me.

581
00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:07,719
Speaker 2: You know what I mean, Like to give more, Like

582
00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:11,040
Speaker 2: to even when you embarrass you uncomfortable, you know, talk

583
00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:13,520
Speaker 2: about it. Somebody might not have to go through it.

584
00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:16,400
Speaker 2: Somebody might. You might save somebody's life, you know what

585
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:18,440
Speaker 2: I mean, Like talk about it. You know what I mean,

586
00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:21,120
Speaker 2: you might not be You know, man, you was on

587
00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:23,240
Speaker 2: top of the world. You had all the money, you

588
00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:24,880
Speaker 2: know what I mean, all you had to do. It's

589
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:27,320
Speaker 2: easy for a motherfucker to tell Chuck what to do

590
00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:32,080
Speaker 2: with his easy for somebody to say what I would

591
00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:33,440
Speaker 2: have did? Man, if I was him, I would have

592
00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:35,800
Speaker 2: did You ain't me, motherfucker. You know what I mean.

593
00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:40,240
Speaker 2: You don't know how. I'm sorry you not me. You

594
00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:42,160
Speaker 2: know what I mean. I make mistakes. I'm human, just

595
00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:42,560
Speaker 2: like you.

596
00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:44,920
Speaker 1: That's why we love you, and I love how I

597
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:45,239
Speaker 1: love how.

598
00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:48,600
Speaker 4: The whole book Misunderstood is literally an explanation as to

599
00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:53,000
Speaker 4: why the whole infamous practice press conference even happened because

600
00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:55,880
Speaker 4: you was dealing with so much at the time, so

601
00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:59,160
Speaker 4: it wasn't even about you know, those people in the room.

602
00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:01,120
Speaker 1: It's everything else. I was going on outside.

603
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:04,080
Speaker 2: Man, best friend just just got killed, you know what

604
00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:07,520
Speaker 2: I mean. I'm like, I'm coming in there, But Charla, Man,

605
00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:12,240
Speaker 2: I'm coming in there like like I'm I'm on cloud nine.

606
00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:14,480
Speaker 2: I'm like, yo, I get you know, my kids dealing

607
00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:17,440
Speaker 2: with this, like they going to school every day and

608
00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:20,160
Speaker 2: their class may tell your daddy, don't leave, Tell you dad,

609
00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:22,440
Speaker 2: they don't leave. You know, my wife going you know,

610
00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:24,880
Speaker 2: she out in the city. People tell your husband, please

611
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:27,719
Speaker 2: don't leave. We love them. So they going through it.

612
00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:30,320
Speaker 2: You know what I mean, my kids don't really understand daddy,

613
00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:32,680
Speaker 2: don't don't get traded, don't leave like I don't have

614
00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:35,000
Speaker 2: no control over it. So when they called me in there,

615
00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:38,440
Speaker 2: it was like, yo, you ain't going nowhere. So I'm like, shit,

616
00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:41,000
Speaker 2: can we call a press conference? You know what I mean? Yeah,

617
00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:42,840
Speaker 2: I got all everybody in there. I get to tell

618
00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:46,520
Speaker 2: the world I ain't going nowhere. This dude just keep

619
00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:50,000
Speaker 2: on asking me about practice, practice, practice, you know what

620
00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:53,160
Speaker 2: I mean. I'm like, practice, Yeah, you know what I'm saying.

621
00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:54,960
Speaker 2: I'm like, this is not what we're here for. This

622
00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:58,800
Speaker 2: is we I mean, let's rejoice, let's be happy, you

623
00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:01,000
Speaker 2: know what I mean. But it's you you, if you

624
00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:04,440
Speaker 2: know what I know. You got beat writers that write

625
00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:06,800
Speaker 2: every day. And then you know, I was telling Steven

626
00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:10,200
Speaker 2: A on this show yesterday, like they weren't exclusive. You

627
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:13,320
Speaker 2: turn them down for exclusive the first chance they get,

628
00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:16,400
Speaker 2: kick your back off, you know what I mean. And

629
00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:18,960
Speaker 2: it was him. I'm sitting there looking at him, you

630
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:20,840
Speaker 2: know what I mean, Like, and if I was, if

631
00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:23,600
Speaker 2: I was prepared, which I wasn't, if I was paying,

632
00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:27,479
Speaker 2: I'm like, yo, man, I was the MVP last season,

633
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:30,360
Speaker 2: the best player in the whole world. You know what

634
00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:32,840
Speaker 2: I mean, coming from where I come from, and if

635
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:35,160
Speaker 2: I didn't practice, how would I be able to accomplish

636
00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:37,600
Speaker 2: something like that. I must be really good, you know

637
00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:40,080
Speaker 2: what I mean. But I wasn't prepared for it like

638
00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:43,760
Speaker 2: that because I was so emotional and angry that him.

639
00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:47,160
Speaker 2: You know, this is about being happy, man.

640
00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:48,840
Speaker 3: That's what the misunderstood is about.

641
00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:49,040
Speaker 2: Right.

642
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:51,719
Speaker 3: One thing I would I would say about AI is

643
00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:54,720
Speaker 3: if you ever see him out, He's gonna talk to you.

644
00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:58,880
Speaker 3: He's gonna hug you like he's It's funny when people

645
00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:00,560
Speaker 3: say you're from the street, or when he labeled you

646
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:02,200
Speaker 3: a thugs. I'm like, when you.

647
00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:03,640
Speaker 2: See him out, he's the total opposite.

648
00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:05,320
Speaker 3: He gonna hug you, he gonna ask you how your

649
00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:07,760
Speaker 3: family is right when you used to have a look

650
00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:09,640
Speaker 3: at it. He's gonna kiss you on your forehead, like brother,

651
00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:12,000
Speaker 3: I love you like no, for real, I love you,

652
00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:14,080
Speaker 3: and he and he means it, and he means well

653
00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:15,560
Speaker 3: for all his people. And that's the side I don't

654
00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:17,880
Speaker 3: think people see I love. I was saying something the

655
00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:19,000
Speaker 3: other day. I was like, I was walking down the

656
00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:20,640
Speaker 3: street with Virginia and Charlomann is like you was walking.

657
00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:22,560
Speaker 3: I was like, I was walking down the street and hey,

658
00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:24,560
Speaker 3: I pulled up and what's up? Hop out the car house?

659
00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:27,400
Speaker 2: Your family gave me a hug, aful. Yeah, what you're

660
00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:27,880
Speaker 2: doing tonight?

661
00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:29,880
Speaker 3: You you got, you got some of the city. I'm

662
00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:32,320
Speaker 3: gonna come then text me later on Yo, I'm sleeping.

663
00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:34,640
Speaker 3: I ain't gonna bring it. I'm like, yeah, but that's

664
00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:37,520
Speaker 3: him with everybody, And I'm like, that's the side that

665
00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:38,200
Speaker 3: people heard.

666
00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:41,760
Speaker 2: The people, the people's I look at it like I

667
00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:47,600
Speaker 2: look at it like I watch I watch people and

668
00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:49,680
Speaker 2: how they get down, and I'm like, damn, I would

669
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:52,800
Speaker 2: never you know what I mean. But t's on. You know,

670
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:56,600
Speaker 2: me being me is you know, the best thing in

671
00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:58,360
Speaker 2: the world of me. Yes, I wanted to be like Mike.

672
00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:01,440
Speaker 2: Growing up. I wanted to be like Mike. Yes, I

673
00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:03,960
Speaker 2: didn't want to be him. You know what I mean, Like,

674
00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:07,280
Speaker 2: I love being me. Everybody else is taking up anyway,

675
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:09,920
Speaker 2: you know what I mean? Like, I love, I love

676
00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:14,120
Speaker 2: who I am. I never disrespect my God by wanting

677
00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:17,280
Speaker 2: to be something else. I never disrespect him. You know

678
00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:20,400
Speaker 2: what I mean by wanting to be somebody else? I love.

679
00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:22,800
Speaker 2: I didn't win a championship. But I'm the people's champ.

680
00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:25,640
Speaker 2: I love you know, people coming to me. Ai what

681
00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:27,680
Speaker 2: you're doing here? I'm in Walmartol, I'm in Target on

682
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:29,560
Speaker 2: the grocery store. You know what I mean. What you're

683
00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:36,440
Speaker 2: doing here? Man? Sho me like you security man? That

684
00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:40,360
Speaker 2: part of my life is I just man, I'm not

685
00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:42,600
Speaker 2: I'm not a thug. I'm not a gangster. You know,

686
00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:46,040
Speaker 2: hurt me for what? You know? What I mean? What

687
00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:48,959
Speaker 2: am I scared to just? You know what I mean? Like?

688
00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:51,200
Speaker 2: What am I?

689
00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:53,280
Speaker 4: I always say, you're the only player who didn't win

690
00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:57,040
Speaker 4: a ring who feel like a champion.

691
00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:59,040
Speaker 1: Because to us like that chap I got an in.

692
00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:04,480
Speaker 2: It's crazy that you say that because I'm blessed. Look

693
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:06,240
Speaker 2: at all of the look at all of the other

694
00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:08,520
Speaker 2: things that He's done for me. When I wake up

695
00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:13,040
Speaker 2: every morning, when I say my prayer, because I don't

696
00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:14,520
Speaker 2: do it at night, I do it in the morning.

697
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:18,160
Speaker 2: I fall asleep and forget watching Saving and Son. You

698
00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:21,879
Speaker 2: know what I mean, all night and I'm gone. But

699
00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:24,400
Speaker 2: when I when I pray, I pray for my family,

700
00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:27,279
Speaker 2: I pray for my friends. You know what I mean.

701
00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:32,360
Speaker 2: Keep us healthy, keep us safe. If you know be sick, curious.

702
00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:34,479
Speaker 2: You know. I man never ask him for no money,

703
00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:37,160
Speaker 2: I never ask him for no opportunity. I never just

704
00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:41,360
Speaker 2: I'll handle the rest. Just keep us safe, keep us healthy,

705
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:43,839
Speaker 2: and I'll go out. I'll come out. I'll go out

706
00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:45,879
Speaker 2: there and open the door and say, what's up world,

707
00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:48,200
Speaker 2: what you got to got to off? What's what's going

708
00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:51,200
Speaker 2: on today? And then navigate through it and tackle it?

709
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:54,759
Speaker 2: You know what I mean. Like I'm blessed, you know

710
00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:57,680
Speaker 2: what I mean. So a championship, you know what I mean.

711
00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:01,200
Speaker 2: I'm top seventy five all time. Not many players played

712
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:04,239
Speaker 2: this game, man, millions and millions and millions. I would

713
00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:07,520
Speaker 2: said that I was told that I wasn't even I

714
00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:09,440
Speaker 2: was too small. I couldn't make it. You can't make

715
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:12,279
Speaker 2: it in this type of game. And you know, and

716
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:14,319
Speaker 2: I'm a Hall of famer, you know what I mean,

717
00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:17,000
Speaker 2: All start scoring champion, you know what I mean? Like,

718
00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:20,520
Speaker 2: I'm just not a champion, you know what I mean,

719
00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:24,400
Speaker 2: I'm not. We came up short to a juggernaut Kobe

720
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:28,160
Speaker 2: Bryant and Shaquille O'Neill in their prime. You understand, Like

721
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:32,160
Speaker 2: I'm cool with that, you know what I mean? Now

722
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:34,319
Speaker 2: I get an opportunity. I'm still here. I get the

723
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:38,240
Speaker 2: root for That's why I want certain people that haven't

724
00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:40,960
Speaker 2: won a championship to win one. I want to I

725
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:43,520
Speaker 2: want them to feel, you know how, I never got

726
00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:46,160
Speaker 2: the opportunity to feel. So when people talk about who

727
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:48,000
Speaker 2: you want to win this year, I want to see

728
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:50,920
Speaker 2: the guys win that haven't done it before. Gotcha, you

729
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:51,879
Speaker 2: know what I mean? You would do.

730
00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:55,880
Speaker 5: Things that nobody evident. If you did, you would go

731
00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:58,520
Speaker 5: so viral these days. You had your mother bring your

732
00:35:58,520 --> 00:35:59,080
Speaker 5: head at the game.

733
00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:01,439
Speaker 2: I was not my mom, the it was her sister.

734
00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:03,080
Speaker 2: I think it was Mamy.

735
00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:06,080
Speaker 5: Okay, all right, So that was just what it wasn't

736
00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:07,720
Speaker 5: no time before I was rushing.

737
00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:12,279
Speaker 2: Listen. First of all, you already know Jess, and I

738
00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:14,799
Speaker 2: know you might have. You might not have joked about it,

739
00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:18,000
Speaker 2: but you you probably joked about it to your home

740
00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:20,399
Speaker 2: girls or your homeboys or whatever. Because I ain't never

741
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:23,719
Speaker 2: had my head always been long up here. I ain't

742
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:30,680
Speaker 2: never had no hangtime. I ain't never I mean never,

743
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:34,840
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. And you know if you

744
00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:38,040
Speaker 2: don't put rubber bands in my joint, then they would

745
00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:41,359
Speaker 2: come out. So we were actually rushing. I used to.

746
00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:43,239
Speaker 2: I used to get to the game so late, you know,

747
00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:44,840
Speaker 2: because I used to leave so late. With the traffic

748
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:46,239
Speaker 2: going to the game, I used to always get called

749
00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:47,840
Speaker 2: into it. And then I used to always had to

750
00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:55,000
Speaker 2: ride on thee so playing it was like first quarter

751
00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:58,920
Speaker 2: and I felt, you know, it was coming out. My

752
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:02,479
Speaker 2: aunt was stands all like yo, she came and.

753
00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:04,920
Speaker 1: Just fixed it up.

754
00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:08,040
Speaker 2: I mean it was simple as that.

755
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:10,480
Speaker 6: That photo is like so loved and cherished now, but

756
00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:12,719
Speaker 6: when it happened at the time, did you feel like

757
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:15,200
Speaker 6: people like loved and cherish the moment? And how did

758
00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:17,560
Speaker 6: you handle how people would come for your family because

759
00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:18,920
Speaker 6: you are such a family person.

760
00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:28,359
Speaker 2: Damn, that's a good question. I don't want to say

761
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:33,239
Speaker 2: I didn't. I didn't care, But it was like what

762
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:37,000
Speaker 2: you're gonna do, Like there's nothing you can you can't

763
00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:45,680
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna change I couldn't change what people think about.

764
00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:48,839
Speaker 2: But this book not gonna change what people think. This documentary.

765
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:52,080
Speaker 2: Motherfucker don't like you. They don't like you, they hate you.

766
00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:55,360
Speaker 2: They hate you. They don't find some reason, you know,

767
00:37:57,239 --> 00:38:00,000
Speaker 2: they don't find some reason to to not like you.

768
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:02,279
Speaker 2: That's what you deal with. And it's like I had

769
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:04,879
Speaker 2: to learn that early, like you know what I mean,

770
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:09,800
Speaker 2: Like like for real, like everybody not gonna love you,

771
00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:11,560
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. You just concentrate on the

772
00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:15,280
Speaker 2: ones that do. You just appreciate the ones that that

773
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:18,719
Speaker 2: that like you know what I mean. I mean, they

774
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:21,600
Speaker 2: gonna say crazy shit, you know what I mean. I

775
00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:26,279
Speaker 2: heard somebody say Michael Jackson can't sing. Like I mean,

776
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:30,520
Speaker 2: I've heard it. So when when you ranking people and

777
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:33,719
Speaker 2: you know what i mean, ranking where AI stand in

778
00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:36,480
Speaker 2: this and and and you know what i mean, like

779
00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:39,120
Speaker 2: you're paying attention with the comments and what people say,

780
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:42,120
Speaker 2: and man, listen, you're gonna be hurt for a while.

781
00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:45,680
Speaker 2: Like the comments even on Instagram, Like I posted a

782
00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:50,000
Speaker 2: picture of my daughter up there, and dude, I'm looking

783
00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:53,080
Speaker 2: at the comments for whatever reason, you know what i mean,

784
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:56,840
Speaker 2: Like I need my ego stroke anymore, you know what

785
00:38:56,880 --> 00:39:00,759
Speaker 2: I mean. Look a man, fuck that little ugly bitch,

786
00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:03,840
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. I'm like, damn, Like I'm like, okay,

787
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:08,400
Speaker 2: I don't do the comments no more, you know, francn

788
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:11,799
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. It's like it's like people going,

789
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:15,000
Speaker 2: you know, that's what that's what they do. Because a

790
00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:18,279
Speaker 2: lot of a lot of times. People we talked about

791
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:20,200
Speaker 2: that earlier, they wake up and they mad at their

792
00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:24,440
Speaker 2: own life. And you know, that's just that's the world

793
00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:27,400
Speaker 2: we the whorld we we live in. That's the reason

794
00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:31,600
Speaker 2: I can't be a commentary. Yeah. Yeah, Like I'm not

795
00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:36,000
Speaker 2: getting up there talking bad about nobody. Man. I just

796
00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:39,680
Speaker 2: I just that's just not something that because if just

797
00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:42,400
Speaker 2: think about it, if you're an NBA basketball player and

798
00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:44,720
Speaker 2: you never get in the game and everybody think you're bumm,

799
00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:47,480
Speaker 2: put them in a game. How you get there first

800
00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:50,719
Speaker 2: of all, right, and then put them on the court,

801
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:52,719
Speaker 2: you know what I mean with anybody else? Put them

802
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:55,160
Speaker 2: in the y m c A, put them on the court,

803
00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:57,200
Speaker 2: on the college court, you know what I mean, high

804
00:39:57,200 --> 00:40:00,360
Speaker 2: school whatever, it looked like Michael Jordan out there, you

805
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:03,759
Speaker 2: know what I mean. And I just respect everybody that

806
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:06,200
Speaker 2: made it because I know what I actually went through,

807
00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:09,319
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. I went through a lot

808
00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:11,640
Speaker 2: to get there, Like I ended up being the first

809
00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:14,600
Speaker 2: pick in the draft, and a couple of years ago

810
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:17,840
Speaker 2: I was getting released from from jail, you know what

811
00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:21,200
Speaker 2: I'm saying. So I don't know, I just I just

812
00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:24,799
Speaker 2: I just respect people that that that want to do

813
00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:28,560
Speaker 2: something and don't let nobody stop them trying to do it.

814
00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:32,040
Speaker 3: Also that I've seen an interview you gave up drinking

815
00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:36,120
Speaker 3: six months ago that point where you said it was it.

816
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:39,879
Speaker 2: Was I'll be lying if I would say it just

817
00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:42,120
Speaker 2: just stopped the brother. You know what I mean? It was.

818
00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:45,400
Speaker 2: It was situations. You know what I mean. I you know,

819
00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:48,839
Speaker 2: where is my ship at? You know what I mean,

820
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:51,120
Speaker 2: Like I know I put it here. You know what

821
00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:53,840
Speaker 2: I mean. It's the same thing having certain guys around you.

822
00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:56,680
Speaker 2: Everybody when when when they your people, your people know

823
00:40:56,719 --> 00:41:00,960
Speaker 2: when you're drunk, you know, just chill man, Just yeah,

824
00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:06,200
Speaker 2: somewo more glasses. Damn man, hey yo, Man, fucked up

825
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:08,360
Speaker 2: right now? Man, God, damn, I need you. You know

826
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:10,800
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. Man, My this is going on, that

827
00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:15,040
Speaker 2: going on. Man, I need you. I waited till you

828
00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:18,560
Speaker 2: get this in because let me just talk about when

829
00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:24,680
Speaker 2: I get nice, man will give you the shirt UPO.

830
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:27,319
Speaker 2: I went to sleep lass nine twenty five thousand on me.

831
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:35,880
Speaker 2: You know, man, I got twelve hundred what my sniggers

832
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:39,359
Speaker 2: I want? My man, you gave such and such your

833
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:44,080
Speaker 2: your your your little sniggers. You gave your sister, your

834
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:48,360
Speaker 2: your uh, your uh, your your first cope you you

835
00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:50,319
Speaker 2: know what I mean, like and I mean that's just

836
00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:54,360
Speaker 2: that's just small ship compared to the real you know

837
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:57,040
Speaker 2: what I mean, not feeling well. You know what I mean.

838
00:41:56,760 --> 00:41:59,520
Speaker 2: I mean, I did all this and I was having

839
00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:02,920
Speaker 2: fun last night to wake up feeling like this, you

840
00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:06,040
Speaker 2: know what I mean. Then my responsibilities you you know

841
00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:08,279
Speaker 2: what I mean. You're missing flights and you know what

842
00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:11,239
Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, just a it's a pluthor of

843
00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:14,319
Speaker 2: of things. Man, you just drinking, you know what I'm saying,

844
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:18,600
Speaker 2: Like I saw to evaluate him, like what good does

845
00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:23,080
Speaker 2: it do for me? You understand? Like you, I mean,

846
00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:25,000
Speaker 2: you can you can have fun with your own boys,

847
00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:27,880
Speaker 2: your homegirls, you know what I mean, without that, And

848
00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:32,600
Speaker 2: I found out that that's something I you know, got

849
00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:34,600
Speaker 2: to get used to as well, you know what I mean,

850
00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:37,640
Speaker 2: because I don't like being around a bunch of drunk

851
00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:41,279
Speaker 2: people and I ain't like we can't have a conversation.

852
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:43,680
Speaker 2: Like I'm talking, I'm trying to get you to understand something,

853
00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:46,120
Speaker 2: but I'm talking to somebody drunk. You know what I mean.

854
00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:48,400
Speaker 2: You ain't trying to hear nothing I'm talking about. We

855
00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:52,239
Speaker 2: ain't we all conversations not gonna matter until some other time,

856
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:53,399
Speaker 2: you know what I mean?

857
00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:55,960
Speaker 4: And so Bron call you right now and he said, hey, man,

858
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:56,919
Speaker 4: hennersy got this bag.

859
00:42:58,120 --> 00:43:01,560
Speaker 2: God damn by no bag. I've been there and I

860
00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:05,360
Speaker 2: don't had it, and I don't experienced having millions and

861
00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:08,560
Speaker 2: losing like and I'm not talking about I've always been

862
00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:11,880
Speaker 2: a millionaire, you know what I mean. I'ma make millions regardless.

863
00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:16,440
Speaker 2: But for me, once I done hit the pinnacle, you know,

864
00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:19,960
Speaker 2: ten million a year is not enough for me, you

865
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:23,040
Speaker 2: know what I mean, Like it is not enough. Like

866
00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:26,360
Speaker 2: but at the same time, if I want the lottery,

867
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:28,080
Speaker 2: if I hit one of them joints that went up

868
00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:31,359
Speaker 2: to a billion or something like that, the last thing

869
00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:36,320
Speaker 2: I would want is for anybody to know, you know

870
00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:39,239
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, Like, man, that's that's the last thing.

871
00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:43,160
Speaker 2: Like man, you know what I mean. But like I wouldn't.

872
00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:46,399
Speaker 2: I wouldn't, I wouldn't sell. And I talked to God

873
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:50,879
Speaker 2: about it. I asked them to help me be strong.

874
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:52,560
Speaker 2: I ain't go to no AA or nothing like that.

875
00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:56,000
Speaker 2: Like I I was like, Okay, I'm not I'm not

876
00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:58,799
Speaker 2: doing it. And that's what it wasn't. The crazy thing

877
00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:02,319
Speaker 2: about it is I've been with her for fifteen, for

878
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:06,680
Speaker 2: thirty five years and since I was fifteen, And it's

879
00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:10,640
Speaker 2: crazy part about it is she said when I told

880
00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:15,239
Speaker 2: her I was stopping that after that, she prayed on it.

881
00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:16,960
Speaker 2: And she said that was the only time that she

882
00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:20,200
Speaker 2: ever prayed on it. Like I said it plenty times

883
00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:22,359
Speaker 2: in the past, and she said that was the only

884
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:25,080
Speaker 2: time that she prayed on it. And I was authentic

885
00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:25,359
Speaker 2: with it.

886
00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:27,759
Speaker 4: Was there ever a time in your life where you

887
00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:29,960
Speaker 4: truly felt like a kid, because because when I read

888
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:32,120
Speaker 4: your book, it feels like you never got the opportunity there.

889
00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:36,920
Speaker 2: Well yeah, hell yeah, I remember, Like I like you,

890
00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:39,759
Speaker 2: people talk all the time about, man, I was it?

891
00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:43,600
Speaker 2: How tough was it? You know? Growing up poor? You

892
00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:46,640
Speaker 2: know what I mean? Like it was the best, right,

893
00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:49,160
Speaker 2: you know what I mean? Like you know what I mean,

894
00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:52,120
Speaker 2: because everybody around me was it won't like everybody you know,

895
00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:54,560
Speaker 2: it was only until I got to high school and

896
00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:57,840
Speaker 2: I'm wearing like I had two what three pair of

897
00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:01,719
Speaker 2: pants and my one one was my sister's, you know

898
00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:03,960
Speaker 2: what I mean? You know it was it was bad

899
00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:07,000
Speaker 2: and I'm looking at it's called Farmitton. You know where

900
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:10,080
Speaker 2: I'm from. You know what I mean. You see the

901
00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:12,680
Speaker 2: kids on Farmiting, they come in their dressed like they

902
00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:15,160
Speaker 2: got the polo and the guests on, and you know

903
00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:20,560
Speaker 2: what I mean, I'm like, damn bowls and the dudes.

904
00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:22,719
Speaker 2: It was. That was competition for real, you know what

905
00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:24,600
Speaker 2: I mean. They come up with the act legends and

906
00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:29,000
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like it was, it was.

907
00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:32,479
Speaker 2: It was tough. But you know, before then, it was like, man,

908
00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:35,640
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, Like all I wanted, all

909
00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:39,080
Speaker 2: I wanted growing up was a pair of Jordan's. That's it.

910
00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:41,360
Speaker 2: I ain't give a damn I go to school. I

911
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:43,680
Speaker 2: have a god damn pampa on as long as I

912
00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:48,080
Speaker 2: got you know what I'm saying, Like it was, it was,

913
00:45:48,160 --> 00:45:51,640
Speaker 2: it was, It was nothing to me. I was a kid, man,

914
00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:55,160
Speaker 2: I mean, I was a guy. I didn't I had

915
00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:58,239
Speaker 2: the childhood, man, I don't. I don't have no excuses

916
00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:03,719
Speaker 2: on anything that happened in my life. I don't have

917
00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:06,520
Speaker 2: no one to blame. I don't have I don't, man,

918
00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:10,000
Speaker 2: I don't. When when things don't go right, you know

919
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:12,239
Speaker 2: what I mean, when when you ask somebody to do

920
00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:14,480
Speaker 2: something for you, you know what I mean. They don't

921
00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:17,120
Speaker 2: do it? How mad can you get with them? But

922
00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:19,239
Speaker 2: I'm not doing it? Do it yourself, you know what

923
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:22,200
Speaker 2: I mean? Or don't don't don't put that on them,

924
00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:24,600
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, Like I just I just

925
00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:28,839
Speaker 2: I concentrate so much, like we just you just heard

926
00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:33,160
Speaker 2: me going about the seven and something like, and my

927
00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:35,640
Speaker 2: my girls say like, how do you watch this every day?

928
00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:37,839
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, How do you watch good

929
00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:42,040
Speaker 2: times every day? Like I love, I love my gangster ship,

930
00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:44,920
Speaker 2: like I love you know all of that, you know

931
00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:51,480
Speaker 2: what I mean. But I just like like the and

932
00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:54,200
Speaker 2: I and I. It ain't that bad. You ain't you know,

933
00:46:54,239 --> 00:46:57,359
Speaker 2: obviously dead, that's one thing. But you ain't in jail man.

934
00:46:57,880 --> 00:47:00,680
Speaker 2: You ain't blind, you ain't deaf, you know what I mean.

935
00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:03,840
Speaker 2: You got all your limbs. Like what you complaining about?

936
00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:05,960
Speaker 2: You know, that's the one thing I try to control

937
00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:08,919
Speaker 2: in my life. Just complaining about shit all the time.

938
00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:11,960
Speaker 2: You know what I mean, Like I mean it and

939
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:15,200
Speaker 2: it don't it don't do no good. I mean for

940
00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:15,839
Speaker 2: you to do it.

941
00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:18,920
Speaker 4: There's not one excuse in that book. All of this

942
00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:20,560
Speaker 4: is accountability throughout the.

943
00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:23,200
Speaker 2: Whole I ain't making none. Man. And then because that's

944
00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:26,240
Speaker 2: the easy way for somebody to look up to Alannrbinson

945
00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:29,040
Speaker 2: have to have a cop out, you know what I mean,

946
00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:32,040
Speaker 2: easy way, you know what I mean, complaining about something,

947
00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:36,439
Speaker 2: man do it. And I hate when people think that

948
00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:41,400
Speaker 2: like that it's arrogant. And that's how I've always been confident.

949
00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:44,520
Speaker 2: I ain't. I mean, I've never been arrogant. I've never

950
00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:48,120
Speaker 2: been cocky, just confident, you know what I mean. And

951
00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:55,520
Speaker 2: the one thing about like just just people just it

952
00:47:56,080 --> 00:47:59,120
Speaker 2: bothered me that you don't think that this is your world.

953
00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:02,600
Speaker 2: This is your world. It don't mean you're not being arrogant,

954
00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:04,919
Speaker 2: You're not being selfish thinking, you know what I mean,

955
00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:06,960
Speaker 2: Like you're the only one that matter in the world,

956
00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:09,160
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. But it's yours. This is

957
00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:12,920
Speaker 2: your life. Everything happens, you know, you the one you

958
00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:15,880
Speaker 2: ain't going nowhere. You might see everybody go before you,

959
00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:17,360
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. It's gonna hurt when people

960
00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:20,640
Speaker 2: go or whatever. But this is this is the one

961
00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:23,239
Speaker 2: shot that you got, you know what I mean, to

962
00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:26,440
Speaker 2: be happy to make these decisions and live with them,

963
00:48:26,680 --> 00:48:28,760
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. You concentrate on making mistakes

964
00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:33,440
Speaker 2: and hopefully you don't make the same mistake twice and

965
00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:36,399
Speaker 2: and live your live your life. Man, you got one

966
00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:41,040
Speaker 2: shot at this. Man. Ain't nothing wrong with being you, Man,

967
00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:44,479
Speaker 2: Ain't nothing wrong with it. Man, you can't be everybody else.

968
00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:46,319
Speaker 2: You can't, you know what I mean. You can't worry

969
00:48:46,360 --> 00:48:49,600
Speaker 2: about worry about what you can control. Man, you know

970
00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:51,759
Speaker 2: what I mean? Like I want some money. I want

971
00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:53,799
Speaker 2: to be the richest man in the world. I want

972
00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:55,440
Speaker 2: all the money. You know what I mean?

973
00:48:56,160 --> 00:48:57,840
Speaker 1: Yes, you know how you missed that on some money?

974
00:48:58,200 --> 00:49:00,960
Speaker 1: Not registering AI.

975
00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:08,719
Speaker 2: How much time with I got? I got the real guy,

976
00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:14,040
Speaker 2: but register the sleeve you know what I mean? Like

977
00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:18,640
Speaker 2: like like if I get that copywriting like the sleeve, man,

978
00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:23,920
Speaker 2: everybody with man, people playing golf, wearing to sleep. I

979
00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:27,279
Speaker 2: seen r Kelly had sleeve on, said what Kelly fell

980
00:49:27,320 --> 00:49:31,040
Speaker 2: off the stage? You know what I mean? The man

981
00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:36,080
Speaker 2: got a sleeve on in the video, yo, Man, Like

982
00:49:36,080 --> 00:49:39,200
Speaker 2: like the Steve is it's part of people, Like it's this,

983
00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:42,560
Speaker 2: it's a swag. I'm wearing it. Like the whole reason

984
00:49:42,560 --> 00:49:44,799
Speaker 2: I'm wearing it because I'm hurt, you know what I mean.

985
00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:47,439
Speaker 2: Like it's a it's a it's a it's a lot

986
00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:53,160
Speaker 2: of opportunities that that were there that I passed up on.

987
00:49:53,680 --> 00:49:56,000
Speaker 2: But like, I don't look at it like that. I

988
00:49:56,040 --> 00:49:59,560
Speaker 2: think now what like now where you're going? At? Now

989
00:49:59,560 --> 00:49:59,880
Speaker 2: what you're going?

990
00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:00,200
Speaker 4: Do?

991
00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:03,000
Speaker 2: You know what i mean? Like every time God opened

992
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:05,799
Speaker 2: my eyes, I'm just you know, I'm just trying to

993
00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:09,600
Speaker 2: think positive. But life be life. Like you know, you

994
00:50:09,680 --> 00:50:13,240
Speaker 2: get a phone call, you know, hey, man, like like, Yo,

995
00:50:13,560 --> 00:50:15,799
Speaker 2: I need you to do this. Bro. You're asking me

996
00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:18,000
Speaker 2: for this, you know what I mean? Thousands of dollars.

997
00:50:18,280 --> 00:50:21,000
Speaker 2: Christmas is a couple of days away. Like why you

998
00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:23,520
Speaker 2: ain't ask me this? You know what I mean? Man,

999
00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:25,560
Speaker 2: I'm asking you? You know, can you do that? All right?

1000
00:50:25,600 --> 00:50:27,480
Speaker 2: I'm gonna do it for you? You know what I mean.

1001
00:50:29,560 --> 00:50:34,080
Speaker 2: I ain't say there you know. And all the people

1002
00:50:34,120 --> 00:50:37,359
Speaker 2: that I'm talking about, they certain people are not gonna

1003
00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:39,040
Speaker 2: get upset because they know I'm not talking about it,

1004
00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:42,399
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. But you know, like like dude,

1005
00:50:43,080 --> 00:50:45,080
Speaker 2: you know I say, Yo, I'm gonna do it. I

1006
00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:46,640
Speaker 2: take care of that, you know what I mean. You're

1007
00:50:46,680 --> 00:50:48,960
Speaker 2: my man. I take care of that, you know what

1008
00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:50,759
Speaker 2: I mean. I said, But I'm gonna do it with

1009
00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:53,279
Speaker 2: my card. Put it on my car, so send me

1010
00:50:53,560 --> 00:50:55,840
Speaker 2: the information. Don't like that, I'm gonna do it on

1011
00:50:55,920 --> 00:50:58,680
Speaker 2: my car. Oh no, no, no, I need cash, man,

1012
00:50:59,360 --> 00:51:01,880
Speaker 2: I need cash. What was doing me? It's gonna get

1013
00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:03,160
Speaker 2: taken care of Vegas.

1014
00:51:03,200 --> 00:51:03,800
Speaker 1: Can't be choosy.

1015
00:51:04,239 --> 00:51:05,120
Speaker 2: It didn't take care.

1016
00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:06,279
Speaker 1: Difference than it's a lie.

1017
00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:10,440
Speaker 2: Then I got called a clown and no, yeah, crazy,

1018
00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:13,000
Speaker 2: like I'm talking about I've been. I've been. This dude

1019
00:51:13,719 --> 00:51:16,560
Speaker 2: was my homeboy since I was like thirty. I mean

1020
00:51:16,600 --> 00:51:21,680
Speaker 2: like it's been thirty thirty eight years man, and been homeboys.

1021
00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:25,080
Speaker 1: You went above and beyond my brother, because anybody.

1022
00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:27,480
Speaker 5: Ever tried to like come to you and say, look,

1023
00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:30,640
Speaker 5: look my bad. I was tripping like back then. I

1024
00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:32,719
Speaker 5: kept acting and acting and accent and you were doing

1025
00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:34,760
Speaker 5: and I just I took advantage for you, as anybody

1026
00:51:34,840 --> 00:51:37,360
Speaker 5: ever come to you to take accountability.

1027
00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:38,120
Speaker 1: One person.

1028
00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:42,799
Speaker 2: Are incredible because it just happened. It just happened. And

1029
00:51:42,840 --> 00:51:46,279
Speaker 2: my man was telling me that the same thing you

1030
00:51:46,360 --> 00:51:49,520
Speaker 2: just said. He told my man that my man told

1031
00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:53,680
Speaker 2: me and it was like went on death is And

1032
00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:56,120
Speaker 2: I was like, man, yes, I heard him say that before,

1033
00:51:56,160 --> 00:51:58,480
Speaker 2: and he keep doing it. You know what I mean,

1034
00:51:58,560 --> 00:52:01,080
Speaker 2: like you keep doing it, you know what I mean?

1035
00:52:01,160 --> 00:52:04,360
Speaker 2: Like the hardest the hardest part, Like the hardest part

1036
00:52:05,120 --> 00:52:10,520
Speaker 2: is when it's a homeboy or homegirl and you want

1037
00:52:10,520 --> 00:52:12,560
Speaker 2: to cut them off because of how they treat you,

1038
00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:14,880
Speaker 2: not because of how you treat them. You know, they

1039
00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:17,200
Speaker 2: think you're treating bad and treating them bad because you

1040
00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:21,480
Speaker 2: implemented that word no in your vocabulary. But the hardest

1041
00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:27,560
Speaker 2: thing is when it's somebody that you love. The hardest

1042
00:52:27,600 --> 00:52:32,520
Speaker 2: thing is questioning yourself, like, damn, am I wrong for this?

1043
00:52:33,160 --> 00:52:35,560
Speaker 2: Am I going too far? You know what I mean?

1044
00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:38,840
Speaker 2: Like you always try to look at yourself and feel

1045
00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:41,640
Speaker 2: like if you could have did something wrong, I mean,

1046
00:52:41,640 --> 00:52:43,600
Speaker 2: if you I'm sorry, if you could have did something right,

1047
00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:44,600
Speaker 2: you know what I mean?

1048
00:52:46,040 --> 00:52:46,760
Speaker 1: Wrong boundaries?

1049
00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:49,960
Speaker 6: My brother, I got a question for you. You talked

1050
00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:52,640
Speaker 6: about your wife to Wanda praying over. You decided not

1051
00:52:52,680 --> 00:52:54,560
Speaker 6: to drink anymore as a husband.

1052
00:52:55,280 --> 00:52:59,920
Speaker 2: What have you discovered that boyfriend?

1053
00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:01,440
Speaker 1: Boyfriend?

1054
00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:05,480
Speaker 4: I mean, we got divorce, so you married the boys

1055
00:53:05,480 --> 00:53:07,960
Speaker 4: and y'all got right back together like six months later

1056
00:53:08,040 --> 00:53:08,319
Speaker 4: or something.

1057
00:53:09,200 --> 00:53:12,160
Speaker 2: I mean, I want to do I want this point

1058
00:53:12,200 --> 00:53:20,239
Speaker 2: to be made because you think I'm who I am

1059
00:53:21,480 --> 00:53:24,800
Speaker 2: and I was out of control. I was out of control.

1060
00:53:25,640 --> 00:53:30,840
Speaker 2: And this threat was there for years, for years and

1061
00:53:30,920 --> 00:53:33,160
Speaker 2: years and years and years and years, and it's like

1062
00:53:33,200 --> 00:53:37,120
Speaker 2: the boy cried wolf, like whatever, I heard that before,

1063
00:53:37,680 --> 00:53:40,960
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. And then it was like

1064
00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:43,280
Speaker 2: she got to the point where like, yo, I gotta

1065
00:53:43,320 --> 00:53:46,880
Speaker 2: show this motherfucker. I gotta do something to show him

1066
00:53:46,880 --> 00:53:51,000
Speaker 2: I'm serious. And that's what happened. You in that courtroom

1067
00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:54,879
Speaker 2: and you're looking over there and you see number one

1068
00:53:55,480 --> 00:53:58,520
Speaker 2: right there, and you're looking down at that paper and

1069
00:53:58,560 --> 00:54:01,399
Speaker 2: them tears hitting that that page and they don't say,

1070
00:54:01,600 --> 00:54:05,239
Speaker 2: you know, I've been Georgetown versus Georgetown and it's been

1071
00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:08,399
Speaker 2: a scrimmage or six's versus sixes, and you looking at

1072
00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:13,000
Speaker 2: the stat sheet whatever, I'm looking at Iverson versus Iverson, you.

1073
00:54:13,040 --> 00:54:13,520
Speaker 1: Know what I mean?

1074
00:54:14,040 --> 00:54:18,000
Speaker 2: And like, yo, shit is real, you know what I mean?

1075
00:54:18,120 --> 00:54:20,760
Speaker 1: Like, and did you as suit?

1076
00:54:23,640 --> 00:54:26,080
Speaker 2: Look, I really was defiant then, you know what I mean,

1077
00:54:26,200 --> 00:54:28,759
Speaker 2: Like you got me in here, you know what I mean?

1078
00:54:29,280 --> 00:54:31,880
Speaker 2: And I had a judge or judge was vicious, like

1079
00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:33,720
Speaker 2: I couldn't do nothing right.

1080
00:54:34,040 --> 00:54:36,960
Speaker 6: Even in that moment you were defined. Yeah, no, no,

1081
00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:38,799
Speaker 6: it is your interview. I was just gonna say, even

1082
00:54:38,840 --> 00:54:41,280
Speaker 6: in that moment, you were defined and I guess upset

1083
00:54:41,360 --> 00:54:43,080
Speaker 6: even though you knew, because you said you knew you

1084
00:54:43,120 --> 00:54:45,680
Speaker 6: were out of control. But so like, in that moment,

1085
00:54:46,080 --> 00:54:48,359
Speaker 6: why are you defining upset if she's just doing what

1086
00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:50,359
Speaker 6: she thinks is going to help, I guess, to get

1087
00:54:50,400 --> 00:54:51,799
Speaker 6: you to a better spot for her.

1088
00:54:53,120 --> 00:55:03,680
Speaker 2: I was selfishly thinking about my Demid because I know

1089
00:55:05,760 --> 00:55:08,000
Speaker 2: in my heart and in my mind that I can't

1090
00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:11,080
Speaker 2: live without. You know what I'm saying, Like I know it,

1091
00:55:11,719 --> 00:55:15,239
Speaker 2: like I know it. I took, I took her love

1092
00:55:15,280 --> 00:55:18,160
Speaker 2: for me for granted, you know what I mean, Like

1093
00:55:18,320 --> 00:55:20,799
Speaker 2: as far as she loving me so much that I

1094
00:55:20,840 --> 00:55:25,640
Speaker 2: felt like you know that she would never she would

1095
00:55:25,640 --> 00:55:28,440
Speaker 2: never go nowhere like this is all I've known. This

1096
00:55:28,520 --> 00:55:31,000
Speaker 2: is the only love that I've ever known, as far

1097
00:55:31,080 --> 00:55:34,520
Speaker 2: as like, I've never loved someone like this in my life,

1098
00:55:34,920 --> 00:55:36,600
Speaker 2: you know what I mean? Then, A lot of times,

1099
00:55:36,600 --> 00:55:39,200
Speaker 2: you know, all women would say, or even guys, you know,

1100
00:55:39,320 --> 00:55:43,600
Speaker 2: anybody that's you know, logical about anything, how you love

1101
00:55:43,640 --> 00:55:46,719
Speaker 2: her so much and you do the things? And I

1102
00:55:46,760 --> 00:55:48,400
Speaker 2: don't have an answer.

1103
00:55:48,520 --> 00:55:51,120
Speaker 1: We never do though, as men, we never do. We

1104
00:55:51,120 --> 00:55:52,799
Speaker 1: don't know why we do the dumb shit we do.

1105
00:55:53,360 --> 00:55:56,200
Speaker 6: So how has not drinking and you know it seems

1106
00:55:56,200 --> 00:55:58,000
Speaker 6: like you're you know, your focus is different in this

1107
00:55:58,239 --> 00:56:00,160
Speaker 6: time of your life. How has that made you as

1108
00:56:00,200 --> 00:56:01,600
Speaker 6: we discover each other in a relationship.

1109
00:56:01,640 --> 00:56:07,719
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I'm I'm I'm uh, I'm Claire Huxtable. I'm

1110
00:56:07,760 --> 00:56:13,520
Speaker 2: in Cliff. I'm Cliff Huxfortable now like I'm I'm I'm

1111
00:56:13,719 --> 00:56:16,560
Speaker 2: I kind of get a feeling like I'm the guy

1112
00:56:16,680 --> 00:56:19,200
Speaker 2: like I felt always felt like, you know, I was

1113
00:56:19,239 --> 00:56:21,799
Speaker 2: the guy she always wanted, you know what I mean,

1114
00:56:21,960 --> 00:56:25,080
Speaker 2: wanted to be, you know, wanted me to be. But

1115
00:56:25,200 --> 00:56:27,879
Speaker 2: I really feel like that guy now, Like I feel

1116
00:56:27,960 --> 00:56:34,719
Speaker 2: like it's not the Huxtables around there obviously, but like

1117
00:56:34,920 --> 00:56:38,960
Speaker 2: she love you know this me, you know, because you

1118
00:56:39,120 --> 00:56:42,239
Speaker 2: always getting this me. It's hard to take advantage of

1119
00:56:42,280 --> 00:56:45,000
Speaker 2: somebody that can see ship clear as hell, you know

1120
00:56:45,000 --> 00:56:48,279
Speaker 2: what I mean, opposed to being nonchalant about everything, you

1121
00:56:48,320 --> 00:56:52,560
Speaker 2: know what I mean, Like it's you know, my homeboys

1122
00:56:52,560 --> 00:56:54,799
Speaker 2: says a different chuck. Now, you know what I mean.

1123
00:56:54,840 --> 00:56:59,520
Speaker 2: I see, I see what's going on, you know what

1124
00:56:59,520 --> 00:57:01,440
Speaker 2: I mean. All the stuff that I used to, you know,

1125
00:57:01,520 --> 00:57:05,279
Speaker 2: not pay attention to, I'm paying attention to it now,

1126
00:57:05,560 --> 00:57:08,160
Speaker 2: you know what I mean? And I just think, you know,

1127
00:57:08,360 --> 00:57:13,440
Speaker 2: by me making this decision, it's so much better for

1128
00:57:13,600 --> 00:57:17,000
Speaker 2: not just myself, everybody around me. I can help better.

1129
00:57:17,280 --> 00:57:19,920
Speaker 2: My advice is better, you know what I mean. Like

1130
00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:22,480
Speaker 2: I'm a better friend now, I'm a better family member.

1131
00:57:23,240 --> 00:57:25,960
Speaker 2: You know this shit is clear? You know what I'm saying.

1132
00:57:26,080 --> 00:57:31,160
Speaker 2: Like I promise you I'm the smartest man in the

1133
00:57:31,200 --> 00:57:34,240
Speaker 2: world because I know him not you know what I mean,

1134
00:57:34,720 --> 00:57:37,600
Speaker 2: I know him not like, but I know how if

1135
00:57:37,640 --> 00:57:40,080
Speaker 2: it's a certain feel of you know how we need

1136
00:57:40,120 --> 00:57:42,560
Speaker 2: some help, help and you know what I mean, opposed

1137
00:57:42,600 --> 00:57:46,760
Speaker 2: to just just doing it all way and thinking we know, no, man,

1138
00:57:46,800 --> 00:57:49,600
Speaker 2: we gotta go to we gotta go to this person,

1139
00:57:49,640 --> 00:57:51,200
Speaker 2: We gotta go to that person. We gotta do it

1140
00:57:51,240 --> 00:57:53,160
Speaker 2: this way, we gotta do it that way, you know

1141
00:57:53,160 --> 00:57:55,280
Speaker 2: what I mean. Put your ego aside. Man, We're trying

1142
00:57:55,280 --> 00:57:56,640
Speaker 2: to get it done. We need to get it done.

1143
00:57:56,840 --> 00:57:58,840
Speaker 2: But we're gonna get it done right. And it's just

1144
00:57:59,560 --> 00:58:02,360
Speaker 2: an everlution of me. It took long, you know what

1145
00:58:02,400 --> 00:58:04,360
Speaker 2: I mean, But I just think about it, like, Yo,

1146
00:58:04,400 --> 00:58:07,360
Speaker 2: you embarrassed, you know first, it was embarrassing that you know,

1147
00:58:07,400 --> 00:58:10,200
Speaker 2: talking about that seen the ship went viral yesterday and

1148
00:58:10,640 --> 00:58:14,800
Speaker 2: you embarrassed, you know, with the whole thing. But it's like, damn, bro,

1149
00:58:14,960 --> 00:58:19,360
Speaker 2: that's another thing that you know, by you being you

1150
00:58:20,120 --> 00:58:22,960
Speaker 2: and being comfortable in your own skin, it's gonna help

1151
00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:23,520
Speaker 2: somebody else.

1152
00:58:23,560 --> 00:58:25,840
Speaker 1: Somebody might make that decision, right, somebody's trying to be

1153
00:58:25,920 --> 00:58:26,520
Speaker 1: sober right now.

1154
00:58:26,520 --> 00:58:29,240
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying that whatever time, because I

1155
00:58:29,240 --> 00:58:31,600
Speaker 4: didn't get it from the book where anybody recommended therapy

1156
00:58:31,640 --> 00:58:33,880
Speaker 4: to you, because it was clear you was my girl.

1157
00:58:34,240 --> 00:58:36,920
Speaker 1: Okay, like you need some help, you know what I mean?

1158
00:58:37,240 --> 00:58:39,520
Speaker 2: You don't remember what was? Are you coming to a

1159
00:58:41,120 --> 00:58:43,840
Speaker 2: get up that ship? You said last month?

1160
00:58:44,880 --> 00:58:46,160
Speaker 1: You know what I mean?

1161
00:58:46,640 --> 00:58:49,440
Speaker 2: Just starting ship, you know what I mean. And then

1162
00:58:49,440 --> 00:58:51,720
Speaker 2: she used to be like you ran you running around

1163
00:58:51,720 --> 00:58:55,360
Speaker 2: with all these dudes all day long and y'all drinking

1164
00:58:55,400 --> 00:58:58,000
Speaker 2: and have a ball, and you come in here fucking

1165
00:58:58,040 --> 00:59:02,800
Speaker 2: with me. I'm talking about where your piece is at? Man?

1166
00:59:03,280 --> 00:59:05,000
Speaker 2: You know what I mean? Because you going but women

1167
00:59:05,120 --> 00:59:07,840
Speaker 2: know you leave that house. Man. We tackling the world

1168
00:59:08,320 --> 00:59:12,240
Speaker 2: like you. It's going down. It's hard for me, like

1169
00:59:12,280 --> 00:59:14,400
Speaker 2: I said, to go to the grocery store, to go

1170
00:59:14,440 --> 00:59:17,200
Speaker 2: to Target, Walmart, I gotta be Alan Irverson every day

1171
00:59:17,240 --> 00:59:19,960
Speaker 2: I walk in the house. And one thing about it, everybody,

1172
00:59:20,680 --> 00:59:23,600
Speaker 2: everybody out there, if you think about it, somebody gonna

1173
00:59:23,600 --> 00:59:25,919
Speaker 2: see you and feel like this is the last opportunity

1174
00:59:26,200 --> 00:59:28,520
Speaker 2: that I'm ever gonna get to see him and this

1175
00:59:28,600 --> 00:59:30,160
Speaker 2: is my moment. That's what you know what I mean?

1176
00:59:30,200 --> 00:59:33,680
Speaker 2: When they see oh shit, it's like and then you

1177
00:59:33,840 --> 00:59:37,160
Speaker 2: you somewhere and you're paying for something, and then you

1178
00:59:37,200 --> 00:59:40,120
Speaker 2: finish and you turn around and you see so many people.

1179
00:59:40,200 --> 00:59:42,400
Speaker 2: You see cameras and then you see and they do

1180
00:59:42,440 --> 00:59:45,320
Speaker 2: the ship shot like like getting ready to jump rope.

1181
00:59:45,680 --> 00:59:51,880
Speaker 2: You see everybody, like everybody everybody time, you know what

1182
00:59:51,880 --> 00:59:54,280
Speaker 2: I mean. And it's like it's like it's like, bro,

1183
00:59:54,440 --> 00:59:56,720
Speaker 2: you want to be you want to like you wanna

1184
00:59:57,520 --> 00:59:59,160
Speaker 2: it's so much you go out when you come in

1185
00:59:59,200 --> 01:00:02,280
Speaker 2: the crib man to be you know what I'm saying,

1186
01:00:02,320 --> 01:00:05,200
Speaker 2: Like fall on, you know, on the couch and and

1187
01:00:05,480 --> 01:00:08,880
Speaker 2: and you have made it through the storm, you know

1188
01:00:08,920 --> 01:00:13,160
Speaker 2: what I mean. Because like my fans, like they they

1189
01:00:13,240 --> 01:00:15,360
Speaker 2: got real love man, you know what I mean. But

1190
01:00:15,480 --> 01:00:19,520
Speaker 2: some of them, when you can you can distinguish a fan,

1191
01:00:20,000 --> 01:00:23,360
Speaker 2: a truth fan, and just somebody that you know, give

1192
01:00:23,360 --> 01:00:25,479
Speaker 2: a damn about how nice you was on the court,

1193
01:00:25,640 --> 01:00:28,320
Speaker 2: because a truth fan, give a fuck about you. You

1194
01:00:28,400 --> 01:00:30,360
Speaker 2: know what I mean, Like you feed them feeding my daughter?

1195
01:00:31,080 --> 01:00:33,040
Speaker 2: You know what I mean. I'm in the restaurant and

1196
01:00:33,600 --> 01:00:35,880
Speaker 2: stick a piece of paper and paying them sign this

1197
01:00:36,040 --> 01:00:38,479
Speaker 2: right here? AYI you know what I mean. Hold on, baby,

1198
01:00:39,000 --> 01:00:41,880
Speaker 2: let me and this and I you know I love women,

1199
01:00:42,280 --> 01:00:43,720
Speaker 2: you know what I mean to death. I love all

1200
01:00:43,760 --> 01:00:48,160
Speaker 2: my fans, but women fans are they don't like taking no.

1201
01:00:49,200 --> 01:00:50,720
Speaker 2: You know what I mean, Dude, tell you know all

1202
01:00:50,760 --> 01:00:53,360
Speaker 2: the time. But me, somebody you don't know, tell you know,

1203
01:00:53,400 --> 01:00:56,200
Speaker 2: you go crazy in a minute. I'm feeding my daughter

1204
01:00:56,280 --> 01:00:58,200
Speaker 2: right now. Now, Well fuck you there in Ai. Kobe

1205
01:00:58,200 --> 01:01:01,919
Speaker 2: Bryant better than you anyway. Tell me I'm gonna burn

1206
01:01:01,960 --> 01:01:04,120
Speaker 2: these shoes I bought. I brought your shoes. I bought

1207
01:01:04,160 --> 01:01:06,480
Speaker 2: your jersey. I'm like, I ain't say no. I just said,

1208
01:01:06,560 --> 01:01:08,960
Speaker 2: let me finish my daughter, you know what I mean.

1209
01:01:09,000 --> 01:01:13,160
Speaker 2: Like it's it's it's just it's crazy. I remember I

1210
01:01:13,240 --> 01:01:14,840
Speaker 2: was at David Buses with the kids. I'm on the

1211
01:01:14,840 --> 01:01:17,680
Speaker 2: phone talking to my mom and the lady walked up

1212
01:01:17,680 --> 01:01:19,480
Speaker 2: to me and she was like, hey, let me talk

1213
01:01:19,480 --> 01:01:22,320
Speaker 2: to you iself. Hold on, man, I'm talking to my

1214
01:01:22,360 --> 01:01:24,960
Speaker 2: mom on the phone right now. What's your mom more

1215
01:01:24,960 --> 01:01:30,760
Speaker 2: important than your fans? Yeah? I was like yeo. I

1216
01:01:30,800 --> 01:01:32,800
Speaker 2: was like yo, I was looking let me just get

1217
01:01:32,800 --> 01:01:34,520
Speaker 2: away from you, you know what I mean. But that's like,

1218
01:01:35,320 --> 01:01:39,080
Speaker 2: you know, all in the nutshell man being a celebrity. Man,

1219
01:01:39,480 --> 01:01:42,800
Speaker 2: you say that because people think about the money and

1220
01:01:42,840 --> 01:01:45,880
Speaker 2: the fame and the talent or whatever. Man you say

1221
01:01:45,920 --> 01:01:50,320
Speaker 2: you want this life and whatever. Man, you really man,

1222
01:01:50,360 --> 01:01:52,160
Speaker 2: A lot of people, if they were meet, would have

1223
01:01:52,160 --> 01:01:54,200
Speaker 2: been jumped off a building and put a pistol to

1224
01:01:54,240 --> 01:01:55,160
Speaker 2: their head and blew it off.

1225
01:01:55,200 --> 01:01:57,160
Speaker 5: By Now, that's the crazy thing. Lord John said that

1226
01:01:57,280 --> 01:01:59,520
Speaker 5: same thing when we had him. He said, you gotta

1227
01:01:59,560 --> 01:02:01,560
Speaker 5: be built, you gotta have tough skin. This is not

1228
01:02:01,600 --> 01:02:04,200
Speaker 5: an easy industry to be in. But your influence was

1229
01:02:04,240 --> 01:02:07,400
Speaker 5: crazy because I'm telling you, Allen evinceins, I was getting

1230
01:02:07,440 --> 01:02:09,200
Speaker 5: them and I was getting bitches and I wasn't even.

1231
01:02:09,000 --> 01:02:12,400
Speaker 2: Gay in middle school. I would come get my hand braided.

1232
01:02:12,400 --> 01:02:13,920
Speaker 2: And that's good, you told me an on hang time.

1233
01:02:14,000 --> 01:02:15,640
Speaker 5: I didn't either, put the bitches ain't no, because I

1234
01:02:15,640 --> 01:02:16,320
Speaker 5: had the absence.

1235
01:02:16,880 --> 01:02:17,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, so.

1236
01:02:19,440 --> 01:02:24,120
Speaker 6: Your time in Philly, right, I mean influencing impacts and

1237
01:02:24,160 --> 01:02:27,200
Speaker 6: everything you did. But Philly embraced you so much and

1238
01:02:27,320 --> 01:02:29,000
Speaker 6: the person you are meeting you I get it now,

1239
01:02:29,120 --> 01:02:32,040
Speaker 6: but you know, Philly don't embrace everybody. What was your

1240
01:02:32,120 --> 01:02:34,280
Speaker 6: time like there just in like what were you doing?

1241
01:02:35,440 --> 01:02:38,080
Speaker 6: I guess to lean into that or like I don't know,

1242
01:02:38,120 --> 01:02:40,760
Speaker 6: like did you feel the okay? They love me here

1243
01:02:40,920 --> 01:02:42,640
Speaker 6: like when you walk out onto the streets and not

1244
01:02:42,760 --> 01:02:45,160
Speaker 6: at first because people, you know, Philly is tough.

1245
01:02:45,440 --> 01:02:49,640
Speaker 2: The toughest and they called it his brotherly love. That's

1246
01:02:50,200 --> 01:02:54,680
Speaker 2: about it. My relationship not in the beginning, but I

1247
01:02:54,680 --> 01:02:58,400
Speaker 2: think I have I would I would say Michael Jordan

1248
01:02:59,120 --> 01:03:06,880
Speaker 2: and uh Chicago, Steph and AA State. Who else? You know?

1249
01:03:07,000 --> 01:03:12,400
Speaker 2: I said the Bay Area now probably Shay in Oklahoma City.

1250
01:03:12,960 --> 01:03:16,720
Speaker 2: I think I have the best relationship with a fan base.

1251
01:03:17,440 --> 01:03:20,960
Speaker 2: I think in sports history, you know what I mean,

1252
01:03:21,280 --> 01:03:23,960
Speaker 2: Like that's that's crazy.

1253
01:03:23,960 --> 01:03:25,880
Speaker 1: And Kobe Lak you know what I mean.

1254
01:03:28,320 --> 01:03:30,400
Speaker 2: They watched me grow up. I was twenty one years

1255
01:03:30,440 --> 01:03:33,240
Speaker 2: old when I got there, Like they watched me, you know,

1256
01:03:33,280 --> 01:03:36,520
Speaker 2: go through my ups and downs. But I played every

1257
01:03:36,560 --> 01:03:39,240
Speaker 2: game like it was my last. And if you know Philadelphia,

1258
01:03:39,440 --> 01:03:42,760
Speaker 2: that's all they really want like I could. I was

1259
01:03:42,800 --> 01:03:45,520
Speaker 2: telling Steve yesterday, like I could be out there, I

1260
01:03:45,560 --> 01:03:49,480
Speaker 2: can go oh for Winfrey from the field, you know

1261
01:03:49,480 --> 01:03:52,480
Speaker 2: what I mean. But they knew that AI played as

1262
01:03:52,560 --> 01:03:54,640
Speaker 2: hard as he could, you know what I mean. I

1263
01:03:54,640 --> 01:03:56,480
Speaker 2: could look in the mirror after the game every game

1264
01:03:56,520 --> 01:03:59,480
Speaker 2: I played, hurt, sick, whatever, and look at the mirror,

1265
01:03:59,560 --> 01:04:01,840
Speaker 2: and I know ever felt bad, you know, I felt good.

1266
01:04:01,880 --> 01:04:05,000
Speaker 2: I upset about not playing well, but I knew that

1267
01:04:05,080 --> 01:04:07,480
Speaker 2: I played that game like it was my last. People

1268
01:04:07,520 --> 01:04:11,560
Speaker 2: in Philadelphia love that, and all relationship has been that,

1269
01:04:12,040 --> 01:04:14,040
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. Since I've been retired with

1270
01:04:14,320 --> 01:04:18,840
Speaker 2: fifteen years now, and the relationship is still the same.

1271
01:04:18,880 --> 01:04:22,040
Speaker 2: You walk into the building, it's the same feeling. And

1272
01:04:22,080 --> 01:04:25,800
Speaker 2: then the people in Philadelphia are used to me outside

1273
01:04:25,840 --> 01:04:35,800
Speaker 2: of being in that arena, barbershops and everywhere. Applebe's. Well,

1274
01:04:35,840 --> 01:04:36,120
Speaker 2: I was a.

1275
01:04:36,120 --> 01:04:37,760
Speaker 6: Little younger, so I came a little bit after. You

1276
01:04:37,800 --> 01:04:41,240
Speaker 6: weren't Fridays when I was there, But yeah, club Fridays

1277
01:04:41,280 --> 01:04:41,640
Speaker 6: was a thing.

1278
01:04:41,920 --> 01:04:45,480
Speaker 2: It became the third largest Fridays in the country, you

1279
01:04:45,480 --> 01:04:47,320
Speaker 2: know what I mean, Like it was really a club,

1280
01:04:47,600 --> 01:04:49,800
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. Lines they started checking out

1281
01:04:50,320 --> 01:04:53,440
Speaker 2: ideas you had to get you had to have reservations

1282
01:04:53,480 --> 01:04:55,760
Speaker 2: and you know what I mean, Like it was it

1283
01:04:55,840 --> 01:04:59,520
Speaker 2: was crazy, you know what I mean. Philly. I love Philadelphia.

1284
01:05:00,040 --> 01:05:02,200
Speaker 2: I mean, I love it, you know what I mean.

1285
01:05:02,200 --> 01:05:05,400
Speaker 2: But it's just just like Virginia. I can't never like

1286
01:05:05,520 --> 01:05:08,000
Speaker 2: live there, you know what I mean. Like when I retired,

1287
01:05:08,480 --> 01:05:11,120
Speaker 2: I went to Florida, like trying to get away from everything.

1288
01:05:11,200 --> 01:05:14,160
Speaker 2: Then it's just meet her and the kids and no family,

1289
01:05:14,200 --> 01:05:16,600
Speaker 2: no friends, like nah, you know what I mean. So

1290
01:05:16,640 --> 01:05:20,160
Speaker 2: I moved in Charlotte. It's close to Virginia, but you know,

1291
01:05:20,200 --> 01:05:22,800
Speaker 2: I can never go live there again. But people have

1292
01:05:22,880 --> 01:05:25,480
Speaker 2: worried of me the damn death, you know what I mean, Like,

1293
01:05:25,640 --> 01:05:29,000
Speaker 2: but close my mom could drive or our flight, right.

1294
01:05:30,120 --> 01:05:32,760
Speaker 1: You got to I do. Got one last question.

1295
01:05:32,840 --> 01:05:36,400
Speaker 4: Man, you changed the entire culture of basketball, but to me,

1296
01:05:36,480 --> 01:05:39,240
Speaker 4: you change black culture. You also change hip hop culture

1297
01:05:39,280 --> 01:05:42,240
Speaker 4: from your fashion to your attitude to just your authenticity.

1298
01:05:42,520 --> 01:05:47,600
Speaker 4: When you see how the NBA in the world embraces individuality, now,

1299
01:05:47,640 --> 01:05:50,520
Speaker 4: do you feel celebrated or do you still feel misunderstood?

1300
01:05:53,480 --> 01:05:59,160
Speaker 2: Nah, it's I get the opportunity, Like this is opportunity

1301
01:05:59,480 --> 01:06:02,280
Speaker 2: for me, you know what I mean, Like all of

1302
01:06:02,320 --> 01:06:08,480
Speaker 2: those years you wanted to you know, you wanted just say, oh, man,

1303
01:06:08,520 --> 01:06:11,320
Speaker 2: you got me wrong, you know what I mean, talk

1304
01:06:11,360 --> 01:06:15,000
Speaker 2: about it to your family, your friends. Man, I'm misunderstood. Man,

1305
01:06:15,000 --> 01:06:17,200
Speaker 2: they don't they ain't getting it, you know what I mean.

1306
01:06:17,240 --> 01:06:20,200
Speaker 2: It ain't like that. And then this platform and then

1307
01:06:20,320 --> 01:06:24,400
Speaker 2: all the other big platforms, you know, just you guys

1308
01:06:24,440 --> 01:06:26,680
Speaker 2: giving me an opportunity to come up here and ask

1309
01:06:26,760 --> 01:06:29,120
Speaker 2: me shit that I want to answer that that I

1310
01:06:29,160 --> 01:06:31,080
Speaker 2: want the world to know, you know what I mean.

1311
01:06:31,360 --> 01:06:33,600
Speaker 2: I want them to know it ain't like that. It's

1312
01:06:33,680 --> 01:06:35,920
Speaker 2: like this, you know what I mean. Then you're hearing

1313
01:06:35,960 --> 01:06:38,240
Speaker 2: it from someone else, you know what I mean, someone

1314
01:06:38,320 --> 01:06:42,120
Speaker 2: else telling who Alan Iverson is. Then just to have

1315
01:06:42,160 --> 01:06:46,120
Speaker 2: the opportunity to do it in the excitement about it

1316
01:06:46,160 --> 01:06:49,320
Speaker 2: is the long wait, because now I finally get a

1317
01:06:49,400 --> 01:06:51,880
Speaker 2: chance to Man, you was wrong. You had me fucked

1318
01:06:51,920 --> 01:06:55,480
Speaker 2: up like that. Ain't what it is, you know what

1319
01:06:55,520 --> 01:06:58,000
Speaker 2: I mean? And going through your career you can't explain

1320
01:06:58,040 --> 01:07:01,000
Speaker 2: to everybody every situation it don't, you know what I mean.

1321
01:07:01,280 --> 01:07:03,520
Speaker 2: And this book took years, you know what I mean.

1322
01:07:03,560 --> 01:07:08,400
Speaker 2: The documentary took years to do, and man, I just

1323
01:07:08,920 --> 01:07:12,520
Speaker 2: I'm just happy that I get an opportunity to to

1324
01:07:12,640 --> 01:07:16,760
Speaker 2: tell my story or write my story and and help

1325
01:07:17,280 --> 01:07:19,560
Speaker 2: and help and help somebody, you know what I mean,

1326
01:07:19,720 --> 01:07:24,040
Speaker 2: Just like you know Michael Jordan did for me, you

1327
01:07:24,120 --> 01:07:26,040
Speaker 2: know what I mean, like he If it wasn't for

1328
01:07:26,120 --> 01:07:29,520
Speaker 2: no Michael Jordan, they would not be the Allen Iverson

1329
01:07:29,600 --> 01:07:33,280
Speaker 2: and everybody in the world. Know, Like, I literally like

1330
01:07:35,160 --> 01:07:37,280
Speaker 2: he gave me the vision. Man. Like I'm like, I

1331
01:07:37,320 --> 01:07:39,280
Speaker 2: want to be like him, you know what I mean.

1332
01:07:39,320 --> 01:07:41,840
Speaker 2: That's who I want to be. Him and Michael Michael Jackson.

1333
01:07:41,840 --> 01:07:44,160
Speaker 2: I want all the dudes to love me, you know

1334
01:07:44,200 --> 01:07:45,920
Speaker 2: what I mean. I want all the girls to love me.

1335
01:07:46,520 --> 01:07:47,680
Speaker 2: You know what I mean. I want to put that

1336
01:07:47,720 --> 01:07:49,720
Speaker 2: in one you know what I'm saying. And I want

1337
01:07:49,720 --> 01:07:53,320
Speaker 2: to be you know, uh, not just a basketball player,

1338
01:07:53,360 --> 01:07:55,960
Speaker 2: but just big all the way. And I didn't. I

1339
01:07:56,000 --> 01:08:01,480
Speaker 2: didn't get this vision until until I started to take

1340
01:08:01,520 --> 01:08:03,840
Speaker 2: care of what I had to do on the basketball

1341
01:08:03,880 --> 01:08:07,440
Speaker 2: court and then becoming a cultural icon, you know what

1342
01:08:07,480 --> 01:08:10,840
Speaker 2: I mean. Okay, all these rappers, all these people in

1343
01:08:10,880 --> 01:08:13,400
Speaker 2: the world that want to just express themselves the way

1344
01:08:13,440 --> 01:08:16,639
Speaker 2: they want to express themselves. Now they get an opportunity. Man,

1345
01:08:16,840 --> 01:08:18,840
Speaker 2: he can do it. Man, ain't nothing wrong with what

1346
01:08:18,840 --> 01:08:22,240
Speaker 2: I'm doing, regardless of high look. Regardless high look. Everybody

1347
01:08:22,280 --> 01:08:25,840
Speaker 2: talk about that that runway walking into the game. I'm

1348
01:08:25,880 --> 01:08:28,040
Speaker 2: watching it, you know what I mean. I don't like

1349
01:08:28,080 --> 01:08:31,559
Speaker 2: everything up there, but I just love their confidence of

1350
01:08:31,640 --> 01:08:35,040
Speaker 2: walking in there, like, yeah, I'm doing it today, you

1351
01:08:35,120 --> 01:08:39,040
Speaker 2: know what I mean? And like just my story. All

1352
01:08:39,120 --> 01:08:44,559
Speaker 2: I want is for people to get out of it. Man,

1353
01:08:44,600 --> 01:08:48,240
Speaker 2: It's all right to be you. It's all right, you

1354
01:08:48,240 --> 01:08:51,559
Speaker 2: know what I mean. It's things that's gonna happen in

1355
01:08:51,600 --> 01:08:54,240
Speaker 2: your life and it's gonna be tough, you know what

1356
01:08:54,280 --> 01:08:58,599
Speaker 2: I mean. But that's when you're gonna lean on number one.

1357
01:08:58,720 --> 01:09:00,960
Speaker 2: You're gonna lean on him. You gonna lean on God.

1358
01:09:01,320 --> 01:09:04,479
Speaker 2: You don't. They don't ask them, uh any You don't

1359
01:09:04,520 --> 01:09:06,759
Speaker 2: question him at all, you know what I mean. Whatever

1360
01:09:06,840 --> 01:09:08,920
Speaker 2: happened happened. I ain't never my grandma told me when

1361
01:09:08,920 --> 01:09:11,680
Speaker 2: I went to jail, that bowling alley thing. I said, Now,

1362
01:09:12,120 --> 01:09:14,080
Speaker 2: why are they doing this to me? If they know

1363
01:09:14,160 --> 01:09:16,760
Speaker 2: I didn't do what they said. I did question, never

1364
01:09:16,880 --> 01:09:19,800
Speaker 2: questioned God, and I've never done it since then, you

1365
01:09:19,880 --> 01:09:22,080
Speaker 2: know what I mean? Whatever he do, You know what

1366
01:09:22,080 --> 01:09:24,240
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm cool with it. You know what I mean.

1367
01:09:25,000 --> 01:09:27,519
Speaker 2: He driving this car and I'm gonna just sitting there,

1368
01:09:27,800 --> 01:09:30,599
Speaker 2: ride shotgun wherever he take me. That's where I'm going,

1369
01:09:30,600 --> 01:09:33,960
Speaker 2: and I'm gonna live with the results. So that's that's

1370
01:09:33,960 --> 01:09:37,040
Speaker 2: the only thing I want. I just think, man, live, man, laugh,

1371
01:09:37,600 --> 01:09:38,120
Speaker 2: love man.

1372
01:09:38,360 --> 01:09:39,479
Speaker 1: We love you, brother, we love you.

1373
01:09:43,160 --> 01:09:48,080
Speaker 2: Out right now, just walk out. I got God.

1374
01:09:54,960 --> 01:09:55,880
Speaker 1: It's the Breakfast Club.

1375
01:09:55,880 --> 01:09:59,080
Speaker 3: Good morning, every day, up waking.

1376
01:10:00,360 --> 01:10:02,680
Speaker 1: The Breakfast Club. We are finished for Young Dum