1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:06,720 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome at everybody to the Clay Travis 3 00:00:06,720 --> 00:00:09,840 Speaker 1: and Buck Sexton Show Tuesday Edition. Thank you so much 4 00:00:09,840 --> 00:00:14,200 Speaker 1: for being here. We have a fantastic lineup for you today, 5 00:00:14,720 --> 00:00:17,200 Speaker 1: both stories and guests. We have Miranda Divine, New York 6 00:00:17,239 --> 00:00:21,640 Speaker 1: Post columnist and author of Laptop from Hell, Hunter Biden, 7 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:25,640 Speaker 1: Big Tech, and The Dirty Secret the President Tried to Hide. 8 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:28,960 Speaker 1: That's coming at one o'clock one o'clock Eastern at two Eastern. 9 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:33,280 Speaker 1: Abigail Schreier, Award winning journalist and author of Irreversible Damage, 10 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:36,680 Speaker 1: The Transgender Craze Seducing our daughters. So we're gonna talk 11 00:00:36,720 --> 00:00:40,040 Speaker 1: about the trans issue. We have so much you get today. 12 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:42,600 Speaker 1: You know, we were kind of hoping, as you know, 13 00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:44,920 Speaker 1: Clay and I've been talking to you for months about 14 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:51,320 Speaker 1: what's going to actually happen in the in this winter period. 15 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:56,000 Speaker 1: Is it actually going to be a period of rising 16 00:00:56,080 --> 00:00:58,680 Speaker 1: COVID cases rapidly? Will it be much less than what 17 00:00:58,720 --> 00:01:01,880 Speaker 1: we had seen last year? And you're seeing right now 18 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:04,959 Speaker 1: that to borrow from Yogi Berra, in many ways in 19 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 1: terms of case count, it feels like deja vu, all 20 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:10,800 Speaker 1: over again. You have New York. Just last night, I 21 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:14,120 Speaker 1: was in a grocery store. Everybody masked. I forgot that 22 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:16,960 Speaker 1: there's now a new mask mandate, so they don't check 23 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 1: your vaccine card I think in the grocery store. I 24 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:22,600 Speaker 1: honestly can't even keep up with it anymore. They don't 25 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:25,560 Speaker 1: check your vaccine card to go to the grocery store, 26 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:28,920 Speaker 1: but they now make you mask. So people will be 27 00:01:28,959 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 1: masked in the grocery store, but then they'll go sit 28 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:36,320 Speaker 1: in a restaurant for two hours or three hours unmasked, 29 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:39,680 Speaker 1: because that makes a lot of sense because at least 30 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:43,559 Speaker 1: the people are vaccinated in the restaurant. But we also 31 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 1: know you can still get it from vaccinated people, which 32 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 1: is why the caseload is getting so high. It's not 33 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 1: just the unvaccinated. I just spoke to a good friend 34 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 1: of mine yesterday Clay who's come out of being sick 35 00:01:54,720 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 1: with COVID for two weeks two weeks with fully vaccinated 36 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:04,280 Speaker 1: right now. Didn't go to the hospital. So maybe you 37 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:06,240 Speaker 1: can make some kind of a claim there, can We 38 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 1: just I want to address that Fauci is basically telling 39 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 1: everybody that this is just because the virus is worse 40 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:15,360 Speaker 1: and the unvaccinated. And we should react to this because 41 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:20,400 Speaker 1: it's California, New York, Philadelphia now vaccine mandate in effect 42 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 1: in January. Well, it doesn't because there are two things 43 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:30,400 Speaker 1: that are converging here, Jim. One is we're dealing with delta. 44 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:33,480 Speaker 1: We didn't have delta year ago. We're dealing with a 45 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 1: much more formidable virus in every respect superimposed upon that. 46 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 1: If we had optimally implemented a vaccine program, those numbers 47 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:46,360 Speaker 1: would have been down. Those are many of them, not 48 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:49,919 Speaker 1: all of them. Many of them are unnecessary deaths. Because 49 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:52,960 Speaker 1: we have up to sixty million people in this country 50 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:56,119 Speaker 1: who are eligible to be vaccinated. We've not gotten vaccinated. 51 00:02:56,600 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 1: We've got to be due better than that if we 52 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:03,960 Speaker 1: really want to get this thing with. These are just lies. Okay, 53 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 1: they keep talking, And I saw that idiot Eric Swalwell 54 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:09,679 Speaker 1: tweet out. I'm sure you saw this buck about how 55 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:13,079 Speaker 1: oh we need a vaccine mandate in order domestic travel. 56 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 1: When Fauci says sixty million people are unvaccinated, almost all 57 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:24,000 Speaker 1: of those people are kids and young adults. Because the numbers, 58 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 1: I'm looking at them right now, and I don't know 59 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 1: why more people don't talk about this. The vaccines work 60 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 1: in a very limited fashion at best. They are not 61 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:38,080 Speaker 1: even I don't believe accurately described as vaccines. They are 62 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 1: a therapeutic. They do it appears provide some protection in 63 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 1: the event that you get COVID. But listen to these numbers, Buck, 64 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 1: and I don't know why they don't get when they're 65 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 1: talking about all the people who are unvaccinated, why people 66 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 1: don't fight back against this, because the way they're defining unvaccinated, 67 00:03:56,480 --> 00:03:59,120 Speaker 1: they're counting kids who are under the age of five. 68 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 1: Because here are the numbers right now, sixty five and 69 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 1: up at least one dose, Buck, ninety five percent. According 70 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 1: to this most recent number, which has actually come down 71 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:13,880 Speaker 1: a little bit at the New York Times eighteen and up. 72 00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:17,240 Speaker 1: What percentage of people who are eighteen and up have 73 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:22,160 Speaker 1: had at least one vaccine shot eighty four percent, eighty 74 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 1: two percent of people who are twelve and up. Buck, 75 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 1: Even ages five and up, seventy seven percent of people 76 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:34,160 Speaker 1: have gotten at least one shot. When they talk about 77 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:38,159 Speaker 1: fully vaccinated, they're counting babies, They're counting one year olds, 78 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:40,920 Speaker 1: two year olds. The people who are most at risk 79 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:45,239 Speaker 1: are overwhelmingly vaccinated, tons of them are boostered, and still 80 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:49,800 Speaker 1: we are setting these new records because the COVID vaccine 81 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:53,680 Speaker 1: is not a vaccine, it is a therapeutic, And so 82 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:58,240 Speaker 1: why they won't just say this is incredibly frustrating. They 83 00:04:58,279 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 1: told us Buck that if we ever got to fifty 84 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 1: and sixty percent of people being vaccinated, that this would 85 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:07,920 Speaker 1: go away. It hasn't. And right now, for eighteen and up, 86 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 1: eighty four percent of the American public, according to the 87 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:12,840 Speaker 1: New York Times data that I'm looking at right at 88 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:15,560 Speaker 1: this exact moment, eighty four percent of eighteen and up 89 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 1: have had at least one shot. Does anyone think that 90 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:24,520 Speaker 1: we were promised where we are right now based on 91 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 1: what they were saying about this six months ago? I mean, 92 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:30,240 Speaker 1: would anyone even try to make that case? Look at 93 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:33,680 Speaker 1: the extremes they have gone to when it comes to 94 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:38,440 Speaker 1: mandating vaccines in a variety of fashions, different places all 95 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:43,160 Speaker 1: across the country. The Biden administration putting into place a 96 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:45,680 Speaker 1: federal mandate. As we know, this is all now caught 97 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:48,800 Speaker 1: up in the courts, and there's different ways that this 98 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:50,640 Speaker 1: is going to go from a legal perspective in the 99 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 1: weeks ahead. But Clay, they've gotten more and more authoritarian 100 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 1: as the results we've seen have been less and less 101 00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 1: in line with what they told us to justify the 102 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:05,719 Speaker 1: authoritarian impulse in the first place. I actually think it's interesting. 103 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 1: I believe it was Jared Polis, the governor of Colorado, 104 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:12,960 Speaker 1: that's right, who said, look, you've had the chance to 105 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:15,840 Speaker 1: get I'm not putting a mask mandate in place. And 106 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:17,600 Speaker 1: he's a Democrat, everybody, in case you don't know if 107 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:19,680 Speaker 1: this is a democrat at pretty liberal democrat from what 108 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:23,680 Speaker 1: I understand. But he's also saying it's all you know. 109 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:26,080 Speaker 1: The perspective now he's taking is it's on you if 110 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:28,280 Speaker 1: you don't want to get vaccinated, because this really is 111 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 1: about personal protection now more than it is about stopping 112 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 1: the spread. You know, have to be so careful as 113 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:36,120 Speaker 1: the narrative shifts. If you get even a little bit, 114 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:38,719 Speaker 1: you know, if you say, oh, it doesn't stop spread, 115 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:41,400 Speaker 1: then they say you're putting out disinformation because for a 116 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:45,200 Speaker 1: period of time it makes infection and spread less likely. 117 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:47,719 Speaker 1: They don't know how long the period is, they don't 118 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:51,320 Speaker 1: know how much less likely, but at a macro level, 119 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:56,559 Speaker 1: it's clearly not stopping the entirety of COVID spread among 120 00:06:56,600 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 1: the from the vaccinated to everybody else. That's obviously not 121 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:02,280 Speaker 1: the case. And so what are we going to do 122 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:05,880 Speaker 1: about this? McClay. We're descending further and further into the 123 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:07,960 Speaker 1: madness of what we've done before. I mean, our friend 124 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 1: Senator Rampaul, he's out there telling everybody, you know what, 125 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:15,560 Speaker 1: this is not going to stop until they can basically 126 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 1: get your newborns the shot before they leave the hospital. 127 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:21,920 Speaker 1: These people won't be happy until they get your newborn. 128 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:25,120 Speaker 1: I mean, they really want to get your newborn inoculated 129 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 1: before they leave the hospital. They're going to restrict certain things. 130 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:33,560 Speaker 1: You know, they're not going to dispense schooling, but they're 131 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:36,120 Speaker 1: also going to try to get them before they leave 132 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:40,040 Speaker 1: the hospital. I think it's outrageous and ignores the science. 133 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:43,880 Speaker 1: This is a disease of the elderly, not of children. 134 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:47,840 Speaker 1: And the thing is is that he's not a banging size. 135 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 1: He's sort of granting his impulse to authoritarianism. His default 136 00:07:52,360 --> 00:07:55,200 Speaker 1: position is always how can I control people? How can 137 00:07:55,240 --> 00:07:59,200 Speaker 1: I regulate people? I wish he was president, or at 138 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:01,680 Speaker 1: least I wish he had the job that Fauci has 139 00:08:01,760 --> 00:08:06,800 Speaker 1: right now, doctor Rand Paul Covid Emperor the way Fauci 140 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 1: is for all of us think of this, This little 141 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 1: bureaucrat is the most singular and powerful voice on this 142 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:19,120 Speaker 1: issue now through two administrations going on two years. Why 143 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:22,040 Speaker 1: it's because people have attached a tremendous amount of political 144 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:26,120 Speaker 1: and I would even argue emotional and psychological significance to him. 145 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:29,480 Speaker 1: I think you're right on that, Buck, and and to 146 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:31,640 Speaker 1: your point earlier, when you were talking about all the 147 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:35,959 Speaker 1: restrictions New York, Philadelphia, much of the state of California, 148 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:39,160 Speaker 1: got a lot of listeners all over the place. I 149 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:42,320 Speaker 1: want to I want to ask you this question. Has 150 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:46,480 Speaker 1: there ever been a time in most of our lives 151 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:50,680 Speaker 1: where where you are in the country makes more difference 152 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:53,320 Speaker 1: as to what your life is like? Want you to 153 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:56,160 Speaker 1: think about that now. I wasn't around, I wasn't alive 154 00:08:56,200 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 1: in the nineteen fifties, in the nineteen sixties when you 155 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:04,160 Speaker 1: had separation of the races and different aspects associated with that. 156 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:06,839 Speaker 1: I'm talking about for people like you and me who 157 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:11,040 Speaker 1: are around you know, forty or fifty years old, I 158 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:14,439 Speaker 1: can't think of a time where Buck, for instance, for you, 159 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:16,480 Speaker 1: you get on an airplane in New York City and 160 00:09:16,520 --> 00:09:18,719 Speaker 1: when you fly down to Florida, which you're going to 161 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:22,800 Speaker 1: do in a couple of weeks. The amount of difference 162 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:27,080 Speaker 1: in what the world is like from New York and 163 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:29,960 Speaker 1: the vaccine requirements and the masking and the kids having 164 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:34,840 Speaker 1: to sit outside on stool socially distanced and eat versus 165 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:36,880 Speaker 1: what's going on in Florida. I mean, I look at 166 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:38,839 Speaker 1: some of the restrictions that are being put in place, 167 00:09:39,160 --> 00:09:41,319 Speaker 1: and I feel like I live in a different country 168 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:43,440 Speaker 1: here in Tennessee than where you live right now in 169 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:46,480 Speaker 1: New York City. It feels like that, and it's going 170 00:09:46,520 --> 00:09:48,319 Speaker 1: to feel even more like that as we get deeper 171 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:50,120 Speaker 1: into the winter period here, because here's what's going to 172 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:53,320 Speaker 1: happen New York and California. I wish you know, California, 173 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:56,960 Speaker 1: I believe has a statewide that's starting like the fifteenth, 174 00:09:56,960 --> 00:10:00,679 Speaker 1: I think December fifteenth, which is there was a place, 175 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:02,360 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, your guy knows a lot about 176 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:04,960 Speaker 1: betting where we could just do this. Put your money 177 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:06,760 Speaker 1: where your mouth is, so to speak. Will the mask 178 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:12,199 Speaker 1: mandate bring down the case trend in any discernible fashion 179 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:15,240 Speaker 1: in New Yorker California. I would put whatever money I 180 00:10:15,280 --> 00:10:17,560 Speaker 1: could scrape together on the bet that it wouldn't. By 181 00:10:17,559 --> 00:10:19,319 Speaker 1: the way, I'm not trying to be flipping about the 182 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:21,360 Speaker 1: fact that the case is arising. I'm just saying the 183 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:25,280 Speaker 1: other side is wrong. They're wrong. They were wrong before, 184 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:27,439 Speaker 1: they're going to be wrong again. It's not going to 185 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:31,920 Speaker 1: do a darn thing, but it is indicative of the 186 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:35,480 Speaker 1: anxiety and the craziness and well, what's right now. I'm 187 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:38,480 Speaker 1: seeing more and more of people who are being told 188 00:10:38,520 --> 00:10:41,840 Speaker 1: even if they're in contact with someone who's COVID positive 189 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:46,959 Speaker 1: and they test negative, they're still expected to quarantine. This 190 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:48,880 Speaker 1: is the case now. I mean it's been the case 191 00:10:48,880 --> 00:10:52,640 Speaker 1: in Australia for a while, but some companies now I'm hearing, 192 00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:55,719 Speaker 1: are taking an increasingly aggressive posture on This is why 193 00:10:56,040 --> 00:10:58,640 Speaker 1: I buck I went out yesterday. I think I'm the 194 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:01,120 Speaker 1: first person to say this in regards to the world 195 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:06,559 Speaker 1: of sports, the NBA, the NFL. Like for people out 196 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:09,319 Speaker 1: there who are paying attention to these organizations, the NHL 197 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:12,920 Speaker 1: that test regularly, they're about to have to shut down teams. 198 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:17,760 Speaker 1: They're shutting down teams. They're all overwhelmingly vaccinated. Double vaxed. 199 00:11:17,800 --> 00:11:20,480 Speaker 1: A lot of them are boostered up too. They're still 200 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:23,240 Speaker 1: all testing positive for COVID. And I asked the question. 201 00:11:23,240 --> 00:11:25,200 Speaker 1: I'm the first person that I've seen ask this question, 202 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:28,040 Speaker 1: because it happened last night for Monday Night football. Why 203 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:32,239 Speaker 1: in the world are young, healthy athletes with no symptoms 204 00:11:32,240 --> 00:11:35,880 Speaker 1: who test positive for COVID not being allowed to play sports. 205 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:39,720 Speaker 1: I mean, the flu game for Michael Jordan is universally famous. 206 00:11:39,800 --> 00:11:42,600 Speaker 1: You can play right now if you have the flu. 207 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:44,560 Speaker 1: Like the guys go and they're like, oh, do you 208 00:11:44,559 --> 00:11:46,600 Speaker 1: have the flu or you have COVID. Oh you have 209 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:49,920 Speaker 1: the flu. You're fine to travel, You're fine to play. 210 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:52,320 Speaker 1: You have COVID. Oh my god, you gotta go walk 211 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:54,560 Speaker 1: yourself in your house for two weeks. I mean, this 212 00:11:54,640 --> 00:11:58,000 Speaker 1: is nonsensical, and we're gonna talk about this. 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Appreciate all of you hanging out 244 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:51,199 Speaker 1: with us. Encourage you to go give us a five 245 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:53,840 Speaker 1: star review, make fun of Buck Scooter, and there's probably 246 00:13:53,880 --> 00:13:55,839 Speaker 1: a good chance that at some point I will end 247 00:13:55,920 --> 00:13:58,839 Speaker 1: up reading it. We also tweeted this out. I think 248 00:13:58,840 --> 00:14:00,920 Speaker 1: it's up on the Clay and Buck page as well. 249 00:14:00,960 --> 00:14:03,959 Speaker 1: We have loved our first six months with you guys, 250 00:14:03,960 --> 00:14:08,880 Speaker 1: since we started together in June, and a lot of 251 00:14:08,920 --> 00:14:12,520 Speaker 1: you are listening and responding very favorably to us. As 252 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:15,160 Speaker 1: an article up interview with Bucking Eye that I think 253 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:18,720 Speaker 1: some of you will enjoy. But the audience among adults 254 00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:23,720 Speaker 1: of forty six percent nationwide since we started back in June, 255 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:27,560 Speaker 1: we're number one in a buckets nervous when I brag, 256 00:14:27,640 --> 00:14:29,200 Speaker 1: but I'm like, man, nobody else is going to do 257 00:14:29,240 --> 00:14:31,480 Speaker 1: the pr for us, So I want to let people 258 00:14:31,520 --> 00:14:35,280 Speaker 1: know that we are winning, because when we win, it 259 00:14:35,320 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 1: means that the ideas that we talk about are advancing, 260 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:42,760 Speaker 1: which is so significant. But thanks Sacramento, San Diego, Salt 261 00:14:42,840 --> 00:14:50,960 Speaker 1: Lake City to Houston, Phoenix, Raleigh, Milwaukee, and Birmingham, and 262 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:54,840 Speaker 1: also Louisville, Memphis. I believe all the number one cities 263 00:14:54,840 --> 00:14:56,520 Speaker 1: at this point, which is all number one right now, 264 00:14:56,560 --> 00:14:58,440 Speaker 1: almost the whole country. I believe we are joined now 265 00:14:58,520 --> 00:15:02,520 Speaker 1: by Miranda Divine, who has got a fantastic book out, 266 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:04,680 Speaker 1: she writes at The New York Post. The book is 267 00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:09,520 Speaker 1: called Laptop from Hell, and Miranda, thanks for taking the 268 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:13,240 Speaker 1: time to join us here. I believe in the years ahead, 269 00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:17,400 Speaker 1: the collusion to cover up the New York Post story 270 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:21,320 Speaker 1: on Hunter Biden's laptop is going to be seen as 271 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:25,560 Speaker 1: one of the greatest failures in the history of independent 272 00:15:25,640 --> 00:15:29,400 Speaker 1: American media. Do you agree, based on all the things 273 00:15:29,400 --> 00:15:32,720 Speaker 1: that you've seen inside of this laptop and that was 274 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:38,080 Speaker 1: covered up, how massive was this story and maybe more wildly, 275 00:15:38,440 --> 00:15:41,200 Speaker 1: how massive was most of the media's cover up for 276 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:45,120 Speaker 1: this story. Oh, you're absolutely right, and thank you very 277 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:48,520 Speaker 1: much for having me on both of you, Clay and Buck. Look, 278 00:15:49,200 --> 00:15:54,040 Speaker 1: I think we understood that three weeks before the election, 279 00:15:54,080 --> 00:15:58,000 Speaker 1: when we published the first of the emails from the 280 00:15:58,080 --> 00:16:01,360 Speaker 1: laptop that was so damning of Joe Biden. We knew 281 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:04,800 Speaker 1: it was a bombshell, and we expected that the New 282 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:07,400 Speaker 1: York Times and the Washington Post and CNN and all 283 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:11,440 Speaker 1: the sort of media organizations that were in the tank 284 00:16:11,480 --> 00:16:14,560 Speaker 1: for Joe Biden that just would do anything to get 285 00:16:14,640 --> 00:16:17,640 Speaker 1: rid of Donald Trump. We knew that they would ignore it. 286 00:16:17,680 --> 00:16:22,440 Speaker 1: But what was so shocking was the power of social media, 287 00:16:22,520 --> 00:16:27,120 Speaker 1: of the big pech oligopoly's Facebook and Twitter. And within 288 00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:30,480 Speaker 1: a couple of hours of our story going online at 289 00:16:30,520 --> 00:16:34,920 Speaker 1: five am October fourteen, Facebook had come out and said 290 00:16:34,960 --> 00:16:38,440 Speaker 1: that they were blocking it pending a fact check, which 291 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:42,120 Speaker 1: still more than a year later, has never happened. And 292 00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:46,080 Speaker 1: then Twitter followed suit and locked The New York Post's 293 00:16:46,120 --> 00:16:48,600 Speaker 1: accounts the next two weeks until a few days before 294 00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:52,600 Speaker 1: the election, and people couldn't even share the story in 295 00:16:52,680 --> 00:16:59,359 Speaker 1: direct message. Kaylee mcinanny, who was the then President's press secretary, 296 00:17:00,280 --> 00:17:04,560 Speaker 1: was canceled or suspended from Twitter for trying to share 297 00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:08,040 Speaker 1: the story. It was really I'm sort of lost at 298 00:17:08,040 --> 00:17:10,760 Speaker 1: the time, but when you look back now, it was 299 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:16,600 Speaker 1: such a display of power and such an intervention into 300 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:24,880 Speaker 1: the election by these faithless, unaccountable global corporatists that it's 301 00:17:24,920 --> 00:17:28,200 Speaker 1: really frightening. And you know, shortly after that, of course, 302 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:31,199 Speaker 1: they deplatformed the sitting president of the United States, and 303 00:17:31,280 --> 00:17:36,040 Speaker 1: that prompted even Emmanuel mccron from France to say, oh, whoa, 304 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:39,440 Speaker 1: this is rather frightening for all of us. The whole 305 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:44,480 Speaker 1: world should realize that these companies have become more powerful 306 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:49,440 Speaker 1: than the leaders of countries and they're still the same. 307 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:53,320 Speaker 1: I mean, nothing's changed since then. And we know from 308 00:17:53,800 --> 00:17:59,439 Speaker 1: polls taken after the election that almost half of Biden 309 00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:02,760 Speaker 1: voters knew nothing about the scandal that was on the laptop, 310 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:06,040 Speaker 1: The evidence of the influence peddling that was going on 311 00:18:06,119 --> 00:18:09,280 Speaker 1: with Joe Biden, the evidence that Joe Biden had met 312 00:18:09,359 --> 00:18:13,760 Speaker 1: with Hunter Biden's business partners from overseason was compromised in 313 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:17,439 Speaker 1: China and Russia and elsewhere. If they had known that, 314 00:18:17,920 --> 00:18:21,879 Speaker 1: about one tenth of Biden voters would have changed their vote. 315 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:25,840 Speaker 1: And so, in an election that was won by forty 316 00:18:25,840 --> 00:18:30,720 Speaker 1: five thousand votes across a handful of battleground states, the 317 00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:34,359 Speaker 1: censorship of our story could have made a difference. Absolutely. 318 00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:37,679 Speaker 1: Miranda Divine Everybody Laptop from Hell is her book, Miranda's 319 00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:41,399 Speaker 1: Bark I wanted you to look it's you know, I 320 00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:43,679 Speaker 1: was at the hell dot com when a lot of 321 00:18:43,720 --> 00:18:48,959 Speaker 1: stories were being broken about the relationship with Hunter Biden 322 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:51,439 Speaker 1: and Ukraine. And you know this has been around for 323 00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:54,520 Speaker 1: a while. We didn't have the laptop, right, we didn't 324 00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:57,600 Speaker 1: have the laptop from how what should people know? Because 325 00:18:57,840 --> 00:19:00,879 Speaker 1: the suppression story which close started out with enormous and 326 00:19:01,119 --> 00:19:04,119 Speaker 1: may very well have likely did I believe changed the 327 00:19:04,119 --> 00:19:07,280 Speaker 1: trajectory of the election. Then it was dishonest and a disgrace. 328 00:19:07,359 --> 00:19:10,480 Speaker 1: What the big tech and immediated together? What do people 329 00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:14,199 Speaker 1: need to know about the corruption aspect of this? We 330 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:17,280 Speaker 1: always say if this were Donald Trump Junior, they might 331 00:19:17,320 --> 00:19:20,360 Speaker 1: actually cover this more than the January sixth insurrection at CNN. 332 00:19:20,760 --> 00:19:23,879 Speaker 1: What did Hunter Biden actually do? And where is the 333 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:27,440 Speaker 1: real corruption that we know of from this laptop? Well, 334 00:19:27,800 --> 00:19:31,080 Speaker 1: the importance of the laptop is really not Hunter Biden, 335 00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:34,280 Speaker 1: who is this sort of tragic figure drug addicted for 336 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:38,679 Speaker 1: most of the nine years of laptop covered crackhead. The 337 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:42,560 Speaker 1: story is actually about Joe Biden and what the laptop 338 00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:46,320 Speaker 1: tells you about his involvement in not just Hunters, but 339 00:19:46,520 --> 00:19:52,160 Speaker 1: his younger brother Jim's scheme around the world to monetize 340 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:55,920 Speaker 1: his power, Joe Biden's power, and what Joe Biden did 341 00:19:56,320 --> 00:19:59,800 Speaker 1: in return for that money and how he financially benefited. 342 00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:03,520 Speaker 1: So we know that for the last two years of 343 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:07,240 Speaker 1: his vice presidency, Hunter Biden and his partners and Jim 344 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:13,200 Speaker 1: Biden were doing work overseas around the world using Joe 345 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:16,119 Speaker 1: Biden's name to open doors. And we know that that 346 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:21,800 Speaker 1: was being done with Joe Biden's okay imprimata, full involvement. 347 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:26,359 Speaker 1: And the money, however, was going to come after Joe 348 00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:30,959 Speaker 1: Biden left office. And this was why Tony Bobolinski was 349 00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:35,080 Speaker 1: brought in to become CEO of their latest joint venture 350 00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:40,040 Speaker 1: with China and sort of regularize and make everything squeaky clean, 351 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:43,800 Speaker 1: because by that stage, Joe Biden was a private citizen 352 00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:48,800 Speaker 1: future president. And you know, it wasn't just that the 353 00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:52,159 Speaker 1: Bidens were doing a business or had a joint venture 354 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:56,199 Speaker 1: with someone in China. They were in partnership with the 355 00:20:56,240 --> 00:21:02,080 Speaker 1: company called CFC, which was the capital of President Jee's 356 00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:06,679 Speaker 1: Belt and Rode initiative. And this is the imperialist push 357 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:11,840 Speaker 1: by China into you know, corrupting, buying up, paying off, 358 00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:18,320 Speaker 1: putting into servitude um, you know, poorer countries around the world, 359 00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:22,320 Speaker 1: and the Bidens were involved. They were using Joe Biden's 360 00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:27,280 Speaker 1: name to help the Chinese Communist Party push into the 361 00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:31,000 Speaker 1: rest of the world, and you know, at great expense 362 00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:35,320 Speaker 1: to the United States, to America's national interest, to America's 363 00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:39,720 Speaker 1: national security. And the other element I think is there 364 00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:43,160 Speaker 1: is some evidence to show that Joe Biden financially benefited. 365 00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:46,639 Speaker 1: We know, you know, Hunter Biden had been complaining about 366 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:49,840 Speaker 1: having to give half his salary to his dad. We 367 00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:53,960 Speaker 1: know about you know, an email saying ten percent of 368 00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:58,160 Speaker 1: equity in this private you know, this venture was going 369 00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:01,600 Speaker 1: to be held by Hunter bidden for the big guy, 370 00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:07,240 Speaker 1: which Tony Boblinski says is Joe Biden, and other documents 371 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:10,919 Speaker 1: on the laptop show was Joe Biden. But there's also 372 00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:16,000 Speaker 1: evidence of co mingling of finances between Joe Biden and 373 00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:20,920 Speaker 1: Hunter Biden, shared bank accounts, shared debit cards. Also, there's 374 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:23,800 Speaker 1: a little bit of evidence just the tip of the iceberg, 375 00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:27,840 Speaker 1: I imagine, but it is there showing that Hunter Biden 376 00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:32,439 Speaker 1: was paying regular household bills for Joe Biden. Joe Biden's 377 00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:36,920 Speaker 1: always made out that he is the poorest man in Congress. 378 00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:41,159 Speaker 1: He's a really humble fellow from Scranton, working class Joe, 379 00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:46,640 Speaker 1: lunch pale Joe. But actually his lifestyle is a very 380 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:52,919 Speaker 1: Champagne outfit, you know, beautiful mansions, great clothes. He and 381 00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:57,440 Speaker 1: his family lives a life of unimaginable luxury and privilege. 382 00:22:57,680 --> 00:23:01,359 Speaker 1: And whether it's cash, or it's entree to the best 383 00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:06,919 Speaker 1: Ivy League places, to government sinecures, you name it, whatever 384 00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:09,440 Speaker 1: they wanted. It was a magic carpet, right, and Joe 385 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:13,080 Speaker 1: Biden was the Hunter Biden was paying some of the 386 00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:16,680 Speaker 1: maintenance on the mansion, whether it be painting or fixing 387 00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:20,560 Speaker 1: or retaining wall, or fixing shutters, or paying for a 388 00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:23,760 Speaker 1: new air conditioning system in the cottage, on the grounds 389 00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:27,520 Speaker 1: that Joe Biden was charging the Secret Service to rent. 390 00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:31,840 Speaker 1: You know, it was expensive to have that kind of lifestyle, 391 00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:34,439 Speaker 1: and it seems that Hunter Biden was paying for it. 392 00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:39,560 Speaker 1: Miranda Divine, author of Laptop from Hell, New York Post 393 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:43,200 Speaker 1: writer as well. Miranda, is it fair to say, based 394 00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:45,840 Speaker 1: on everything that you have seen from this laptop and 395 00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:49,959 Speaker 1: all of your research, that everything the media said about 396 00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:54,520 Speaker 1: Donald Trump and his sons, Joe Biden was actually the 397 00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:58,359 Speaker 1: one doing ironically enough, all of this Russia collusion talk, 398 00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:01,600 Speaker 1: all of the China discussion, and all of the fear 399 00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:04,800 Speaker 1: about the Trump's sons and the Trump family in general, 400 00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:07,879 Speaker 1: that when you actually look at the data, Joe Biden 401 00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:10,639 Speaker 1: was doing everything that the media tried to tell us 402 00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:16,040 Speaker 1: Trump was doing. Yes. Absolutely, Projection. I mean projection is 403 00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:21,280 Speaker 1: the psychological ailment of a lot of these democrats. They 404 00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:26,159 Speaker 1: were always projecting onto people racism or bad thoughts or 405 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:30,120 Speaker 1: bigotry which they harbor in their own hearts. And it's 406 00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:34,159 Speaker 1: the same with the Russia collusion stuff. I was so 407 00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:37,880 Speaker 1: shocked a couple of times when I was delving into 408 00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:40,600 Speaker 1: this laptop that I had to push myself away from 409 00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:43,480 Speaker 1: the desk and golf and just think about did I 410 00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:47,480 Speaker 1: really just see this? Because Hunter Biden was right in 411 00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:52,560 Speaker 1: the inner sanctum of Vladimir Putin. He was hobnobbing in 412 00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:59,280 Speaker 1: Moscow with Vladimir Putin's oligarchs, these corrupt people who were 413 00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:03,359 Speaker 1: propping up the Putin regime, and he would meet them 414 00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:06,439 Speaker 1: at Lake Como, or he would meet them in Monte Carlo. 415 00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:10,040 Speaker 1: His partner one time said, you know, basically, we're living 416 00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:13,440 Speaker 1: the life of Jason Bourne. And James Bond, and they 417 00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:17,440 Speaker 1: were these bumbling you know, he was a crackhead. His 418 00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:21,879 Speaker 1: uncle Jim was just a bumbling moron. And they were, um, 419 00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:25,360 Speaker 1: you know, getting tens of millions of dollars from these 420 00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:30,040 Speaker 1: people trying to curry favor with their father and bumbling 421 00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:35,040 Speaker 1: around the world in these luxury oligarch venues, and it 422 00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:39,000 Speaker 1: just is so surreal. So he was in with Putin 423 00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:42,760 Speaker 1: and in with President Gee. And there's this one, um, 424 00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:45,080 Speaker 1: you know chapter in the book where I talk about 425 00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:50,040 Speaker 1: this deal, this incredible, you know, multi billion hunt dollar deal, 426 00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:54,080 Speaker 1: the biggest deal China had ever done in they were 427 00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:57,880 Speaker 1: buying Rosneft, which was the Russian state owned energy company. 428 00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:01,840 Speaker 1: And Vladimir Putin had been fed into this by sanctions 429 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:05,040 Speaker 1: that were placed on Russia by America and Europe after 430 00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:09,160 Speaker 1: that MH seventeen plane was downed over Ukraine. And so 431 00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:11,600 Speaker 1: it was a reluctant marriage, but it was a great 432 00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:14,080 Speaker 1: deal for President ge and it was a marriage of 433 00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:19,320 Speaker 1: Russia and China that just would have altered the geopolitical 434 00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:23,879 Speaker 1: energy balance and really put America on the back foot. 435 00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:28,320 Speaker 1: And only because Donald Trump came into office and started 436 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:34,639 Speaker 1: told his Attorney general Jeff Sessions to start disrupting Chinese 437 00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:39,520 Speaker 1: influence and buying up of American properties. That that final 438 00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:43,199 Speaker 1: deal was knocked off because hunter Biden's one of his 439 00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:47,760 Speaker 1: partner was partners, was arrested at JFK. Then President g 440 00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:51,720 Speaker 1: got worried and he disappeared another one of hunter Biden's partners. 441 00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:55,359 Speaker 1: So the whole wasnf deal fell apart. China had to 442 00:26:55,359 --> 00:27:00,360 Speaker 1: pay Russia millions of dollars in compensation. But if hat 443 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:03,920 Speaker 1: gone through, Hunter Biden was right at the center of 444 00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:06,720 Speaker 1: these and it would have had a huge effect on 445 00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:11,560 Speaker 1: America and America's prosperity. Randa Divine Laptop from Hell is 446 00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:14,000 Speaker 1: the book. Fascinating stuff. Miranda, thanks so much for being 447 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:16,400 Speaker 1: with us, and best of luck to you. Thanks so much, 448 00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:19,159 Speaker 1: Claim Buck. 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Kamala Harris maybe the 476 00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:59,720 Speaker 1: worst vice president in the history of the last fifty 477 00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:03,640 Speaker 1: years sixty years of presidency worth thinking about. She is 478 00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:08,120 Speaker 1: in charge of the border, she has the borders are well, 479 00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:12,080 Speaker 1: Jinsaki was asked as part of this discussion. You are 480 00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:16,280 Speaker 1: the borders are after all, Kamala Harris. You are responsible 481 00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:18,640 Speaker 1: for many of the different things that are going on there, 482 00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:24,720 Speaker 1: and borders are Kamala Harris. Well this Listen to this. 483 00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:28,640 Speaker 1: Jinsaki gets set up let across the middle. If you're 484 00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:34,240 Speaker 1: a sports fan and absolutely wrecked here on this question. 485 00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:37,479 Speaker 1: As she tries to defend Kamala, Let's play cut twelve. 486 00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:40,959 Speaker 1: Listen to this. Vice President Harris still in charge of 487 00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:44,800 Speaker 1: addressing the root causes of migration from Al Salvador, Honduras 488 00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:48,320 Speaker 1: and Guatemala. She isn't I just announced a commitment that 489 00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:51,440 Speaker 1: she's announcing this afternoon. Why isn't that she has not 490 00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:55,680 Speaker 1: spoken to the president of Guatemala since June six months? Well, 491 00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:58,120 Speaker 1: I know that I did see this kind of strange 492 00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:01,480 Speaker 1: report from the president of them All saying that he's 493 00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:04,520 Speaker 1: had no contact with the White House, which is inaccurate. 494 00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:07,840 Speaker 1: He said Vice President Harris, he has not spoken to her, 495 00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:10,440 Speaker 1: and if she's in charge, why is that. Well, we 496 00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:13,080 Speaker 1: have had a range of conversation, Speeder. I think as 497 00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:15,560 Speaker 1: are reflected in our readout we put out last week 498 00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:18,720 Speaker 1: with our national security advisor, with the Vice President's national 499 00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:22,480 Speaker 1: security advisor, with our sc senior director of Juan Gonzalez. 500 00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:25,520 Speaker 1: We put out an extensive readout of that just last week, 501 00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:30,240 Speaker 1: and we'll continue that high level of engagement. Clay, high level. 502 00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:33,440 Speaker 1: I mean, I gotta tell you, man, everybody who there 503 00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:36,560 Speaker 1: are people who follow the border issue pretty closely. They 504 00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:39,960 Speaker 1: tend not to be Democrats, but anyone who follows it 505 00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:43,360 Speaker 1: says the notion that it was a serious plan to 506 00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:45,880 Speaker 1: begin with. He remember this Kamala was flying. I just 507 00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:47,400 Speaker 1: want to take everyone on a a little trip down memory 508 00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:52,880 Speaker 1: Lane over Mexico to get to Central America. Basically, wouldn't 509 00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:56,520 Speaker 1: go to the border, then said we've been to the border, 510 00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:59,080 Speaker 1: to which Lester Holt, I guess it was, Credit was 511 00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:01,840 Speaker 1: like look meta and Vice President like, I can you 512 00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:04,680 Speaker 1: know you got to actually go if you say you've been, like, 513 00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:07,160 Speaker 1: you can't you can't get away with that. But the 514 00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:11,200 Speaker 1: notion that this root cause issue was serious, you're gonna 515 00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:13,239 Speaker 1: make You're gonna fly down and come up with some 516 00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:16,640 Speaker 1: agreement that makes people want to be in America instead 517 00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:20,400 Speaker 1: of certain Central American countries because it's America, and that 518 00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:23,200 Speaker 1: is the root cause. You know, like that's exactly, that's 519 00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:26,680 Speaker 1: the rue knows. So you know it's as much as 520 00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:28,560 Speaker 1: you know the commies are running around trying to tear 521 00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:31,600 Speaker 1: this place down and all the rest of it, it's 522 00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:35,120 Speaker 1: still per capita, a very wealthy place and a place 523 00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:37,840 Speaker 1: where a lot of people want to be. And the 524 00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:40,560 Speaker 1: way that you can actually deal with the border crisis 525 00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:44,040 Speaker 1: is to change the calculation for people who want to 526 00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:45,920 Speaker 1: come to the border. But there's also now what you 527 00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:49,160 Speaker 1: could call the Kamala crisis for this White House, which 528 00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:53,360 Speaker 1: is how do they make this vice president seem like 529 00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:57,360 Speaker 1: she's ready for the big job, because that's always especially 530 00:31:57,400 --> 00:31:59,640 Speaker 1: in a situation like this. Right you have a Joe Biden, 531 00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:03,000 Speaker 1: who I mean to be charitable, I know it is 532 00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:05,920 Speaker 1: missus Biden just waved off the whole. He looks to 533 00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:09,320 Speaker 1: be declining. But I think we all recognize the notion 534 00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:13,600 Speaker 1: this guy might run and be president for another seventies 535 00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:16,680 Speaker 1: from now. I mean deep deep into least eighty six. 536 00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:18,840 Speaker 1: Yeah till was eighty six years old. I mean, this 537 00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:21,800 Speaker 1: is like Democrats are just being reckless. So and we 538 00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:24,160 Speaker 1: all know it. So Kamala is supposed to be up 539 00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:28,000 Speaker 1: for the big job. But I think that they realized Clay, 540 00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:31,120 Speaker 1: they can't even have a coherent set of talking points 541 00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:35,280 Speaker 1: to make it seem like that's something the American people, 542 00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:37,040 Speaker 1: enough of the American people will go for. You know, 543 00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:40,760 Speaker 1: the San Francisco Chronicle just did some puff piece. I 544 00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:42,160 Speaker 1: think it was on the I didn't even I saw 545 00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:44,360 Speaker 1: the headlines. They'd read it. You know, the decorations in 546 00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:47,920 Speaker 1: Kamala's office, and yeah, they control imagine if the media 547 00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:50,880 Speaker 1: was fifty fifty, what the coverage of Kamala would be like. 548 00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:54,000 Speaker 1: They got ninety five percent of journals in their back pocket, 549 00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:55,880 Speaker 1: they might as well be I mean, you might as 550 00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:58,560 Speaker 1: well have the White House sending checks to CNN and 551 00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:02,360 Speaker 1: MSNBC and all the other channels. And yet Kamala's poll 552 00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:05,440 Speaker 1: numbers are still tanking. How do they turn that around? 553 00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:07,040 Speaker 1: I don't know if they can turn it around, is 554 00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:10,600 Speaker 1: what they're realizing on some level, your poll numbers become 555 00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:15,320 Speaker 1: a reflection of your perception, and there's no way the 556 00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:18,760 Speaker 1: perception of Kamala Harris is suddenly going to become. Oh, 557 00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:21,080 Speaker 1: she's really on the ball, because when she went to 558 00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:24,800 Speaker 1: those Central American countries, Buck, she said the phrase root 559 00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:28,720 Speaker 1: cause five times. I believe it was in her limited 560 00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:35,080 Speaker 1: interaction with the media. And that's funny and embarrassing simultaneously, because, 561 00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:40,160 Speaker 1: as every single person there knows, the root cause of 562 00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:43,520 Speaker 1: why people leave Guatemala for the United States is because 563 00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:47,320 Speaker 1: the United States is way better than Guatemala. Right Like, 564 00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:53,800 Speaker 1: the root cause of why somebody decides to go to become, 565 00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:59,400 Speaker 1: I don't know, a lawyer as opposed to a mechanic 566 00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:02,760 Speaker 1: in general role is probably because lawyers make more money. 567 00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:09,120 Speaker 1: Right Like, some some situations are not particularly difficult to analyze. 568 00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:11,800 Speaker 1: The root cause of why people come from Central American 569 00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:15,399 Speaker 1: countries is because America is better. The reason why the 570 00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:20,600 Speaker 1: overall number of people has skyrocketed, Buck, is also really clear. 571 00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:24,000 Speaker 1: It's because Joe Biden has welcomed those people, and many 572 00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:26,800 Speaker 1: of them are showing up and saying that they believe 573 00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:29,600 Speaker 1: the United States is encouraging them to come across the 574 00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:33,279 Speaker 1: border illegally. Find one area. I mean, this is one 575 00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:34,680 Speaker 1: of the challenges I have. You know, I've said this 576 00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:36,400 Speaker 1: about Fauci and it's caught on a lot of people. 577 00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:40,360 Speaker 1: Find me. The one time he told people enough, don't 578 00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:43,640 Speaker 1: do that. That's silly, that's not helpful to calm people down. 579 00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:45,640 Speaker 1: He never does it right. It's always more and more, 580 00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:48,719 Speaker 1: wipe your groceries down, triple mask your face, you know 581 00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:52,840 Speaker 1: all this stuff. He wiped his mail buck yeah, yes, 582 00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:56,200 Speaker 1: which is insane, and didn't even do anything fomite transmission. 583 00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:58,120 Speaker 1: As we've since, we've all learned, we've all been just 584 00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:00,880 Speaker 1: on Google, you know, doctor Google, for the last eighteen 585 00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:04,920 Speaker 1: months or so. Foamite transmission is not something In the beginning, 586 00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:06,879 Speaker 1: they were all freaked out about it. They shut down 587 00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:09,239 Speaker 1: the New York City subway system clay overnight, which I 588 00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:11,680 Speaker 1: think they hadn't done in over a hundred years, in 589 00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:14,279 Speaker 1: order to clean the train cars, which totally was a 590 00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:18,160 Speaker 1: good idea, just maybe they needed a good cleaning. But 591 00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:21,719 Speaker 1: it didn't do anything about covidum. Here's here's what I 592 00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:24,640 Speaker 1: think you have to look at on the immigration issue. 593 00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:30,160 Speaker 1: There is not a single area of stricter immigration enforcement, 594 00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:35,000 Speaker 1: whether it's about expelling people from the country here illegally, 595 00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:38,200 Speaker 1: stopping people from coming into the country illegally. I mean, 596 00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:39,839 Speaker 1: you look at sanctuary cities. You look at what they 597 00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:41,840 Speaker 1: just did a New York City where they're the city 598 00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:45,520 Speaker 1: council is expanding, and they've already done this in San Francisco, 599 00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:47,880 Speaker 1: but I think it was for school boards, not for 600 00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:50,040 Speaker 1: the whole citywide. But I can't keep up with what 601 00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:54,400 Speaker 1: every city boards doing everywhere. They've already given the vote 602 00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:57,920 Speaker 1: in the in the city council to illegal illegal immigrants, 603 00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:00,680 Speaker 1: legal aliens in the New York City area. You will 604 00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:04,320 Speaker 1: not find one part of this where you could actually 605 00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:08,000 Speaker 1: start to enforce the law, which means changing the incentive 606 00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:11,759 Speaker 1: structure for coming and being here illegally that Democrats align with. 607 00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:13,600 Speaker 1: This is why I just say, I mean, they're four 608 00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:17,600 Speaker 1: open borders. They just can't say it because they need 609 00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:21,520 Speaker 1: to convince, you know, that middle slice of two to 610 00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:24,880 Speaker 1: five percent of voters that oh, no, we're not actually 611 00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:28,560 Speaker 1: for open borders. Of all of the things that are 612 00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:32,520 Speaker 1: a disaster for Joe Biden from a political perspective, the 613 00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:36,680 Speaker 1: border is where he pulls the absolute worst. It's probably 614 00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:39,080 Speaker 1: where the media has spent the least amount of time 615 00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:42,560 Speaker 1: on two. That's not a coincidence, but Joe Biden has 616 00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:47,319 Speaker 1: awful poll numbers, even for Democrats. When it comes to 617 00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:51,800 Speaker 1: handling things at the border. For Independence, it's an unmitigated disaster. 618 00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:55,919 Speaker 1: The border every time it flares up in any way, 619 00:36:56,480 --> 00:37:00,439 Speaker 1: offers the opportunity to bring Joe Biden even low, because 620 00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:02,959 Speaker 1: when you're talking about thirty five, thirty six, thirty seven, 621 00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:06,080 Speaker 1: thirty eight percent approval ratings, there's not a lot of 622 00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:09,279 Speaker 1: place that you can fall to your point earlier buck 623 00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:11,799 Speaker 1: like the fear if you're thinking about mid terms. As 624 00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:14,680 Speaker 1: Biden is already so low that it's going to be 625 00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:16,919 Speaker 1: hard for him to go lower, the border is where 626 00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:20,120 Speaker 1: he could go somewhat lower. 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Clay Travis and Buck Sexton a new form 645 00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:26,480 Speaker 1: of broadcast excellence inspired by Rush on the EIB network 646 00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:38,440 Speaker 1: Third Hour Clay and Buck Show here and much to discuss, 647 00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:42,040 Speaker 1: my friends, Thank you for being with us. We are 648 00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:45,360 Speaker 1: joined now as promised by Abigail Schreyer. She's an award 649 00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:50,440 Speaker 1: winning journalist and author of Irreversible Damage, the Transgender Craze, 650 00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:55,080 Speaker 1: Seducing Our Daughters, and her recent piece A recent thing 651 00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:57,560 Speaker 1: she wrote about speaking to students of Prince University is 652 00:38:57,680 --> 00:39:02,520 Speaker 1: up on Clay and Buck dot com right now. Abigail, 653 00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:04,759 Speaker 1: thanks for being here with us. Oh, thanks so much 654 00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:08,120 Speaker 1: for having me on. So you you wrote recently about 655 00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:10,640 Speaker 1: how when you spoke at Princeton you told students there, 656 00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:14,759 Speaker 1: obviously very elite Ivy League institution, You started out by 657 00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:19,600 Speaker 1: explaining how you are not somebody who has sought the 658 00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:23,799 Speaker 1: controversy or even the hatred of people who disagree with you, 659 00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:28,200 Speaker 1: but essentially being willing to stand up for what you 660 00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:31,239 Speaker 1: think to be effective, and to refuse to bend the 661 00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:36,200 Speaker 1: knee is to be attacked mercilessly. Tell us about this, Well, 662 00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:39,040 Speaker 1: I do think that's all. That's about all you need today. 663 00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:40,960 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, it's it's a funny thing. I 664 00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:44,840 Speaker 1: attended you know, fancy institutions myself, and then you know, 665 00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:47,000 Speaker 1: it was very much. I talked talked to the Princeton's 666 00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:49,080 Speaker 1: kids and said, look, I know what it's like, you 667 00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:52,120 Speaker 1: know what you're going through, but today, um, you don't. 668 00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:56,240 Speaker 1: You don't actually need to be a provocateur to face, 669 00:39:56,560 --> 00:40:01,000 Speaker 1: you know, an entire tornado of hate. And the problem 670 00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:03,840 Speaker 1: is that we need very badly, more than ever people 671 00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:07,319 Speaker 1: to stand up and speak truth to lies, and we're 672 00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:10,640 Speaker 1: just not seeing enough of it, and we're losing rights 673 00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:13,800 Speaker 1: in this country right now because people aren't speaking, and 674 00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:17,640 Speaker 1: specifically this was on the issue of the trans agenda. 675 00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:21,000 Speaker 1: I mean, Abigail, I've been involved publicly in this debate now, 676 00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:24,480 Speaker 1: going back about a decade, and I remember things that 677 00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:27,640 Speaker 1: we would say years ago, like what about when men 678 00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:31,960 Speaker 1: want to compete in women's athletics. Initially the left and 679 00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:36,040 Speaker 1: the trans trans agenda folks were saying that will never happen. 680 00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:40,359 Speaker 1: Now we're there and we're being told on pain of 681 00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:45,680 Speaker 1: social excommunication and professional excommunication, you have to say things 682 00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:48,200 Speaker 1: like a man does not have an advantage over a 683 00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:51,520 Speaker 1: women in sports competition, or else you're a bad person. 684 00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:57,400 Speaker 1: This seems like a disorder, a mass delusion. Yeah, there's 685 00:40:57,440 --> 00:41:00,400 Speaker 1: not even any doubt about it. I mean, male puberty 686 00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:04,920 Speaker 1: confer as permanent and massive advantages on a male body. 687 00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:09,160 Speaker 1: Even if they later reduced the testosterone, the active testosterone, 688 00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:12,520 Speaker 1: bioactive testosterone rate in the body levels in the body, 689 00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:16,640 Speaker 1: it was still they still have larger lungs, larger hearts, 690 00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:21,279 Speaker 1: more oxygenated blood, vastly greater muscle mass, bone density, fast 691 00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:24,600 Speaker 1: switched muscle fibers. So it's not a fair competition. People 692 00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:27,360 Speaker 1: know it's not a fair competition. These girls are watching 693 00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:31,360 Speaker 1: their records getting destroyed and all their hard work is 694 00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:33,640 Speaker 1: coming to nothing, and now is their time to speak up, 695 00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:36,600 Speaker 1: because pretty soon girls are going to very rationally just 696 00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:40,360 Speaker 1: say I'm not going to bother competing. What's the point, Abigail? 697 00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:43,760 Speaker 1: Your piece This is Clay was so fantastic. I shared 698 00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:45,360 Speaker 1: it for my Twitter account. I think I read it 699 00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:48,480 Speaker 1: late Sunday night as I was getting ready for the 700 00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:50,800 Speaker 1: new week to start, and I found myself nodding to 701 00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:53,879 Speaker 1: so much you said because I were around the same age. 702 00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:56,360 Speaker 1: I think you said you're forty three, I'm forty two, 703 00:41:56,719 --> 00:42:00,400 Speaker 1: and I felt like so much of your path was 704 00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:03,239 Speaker 1: similar to the one that I have followed, and I 705 00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:05,080 Speaker 1: want to start. I want to build on what Buck 706 00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:07,160 Speaker 1: said there. We had a couple of stories I think 707 00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:11,439 Speaker 1: you saw them up at OutKick, about two Pennsylvania women 708 00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:14,200 Speaker 1: swimmers who didn't even feel like they could use their 709 00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:17,160 Speaker 1: own name to criticize the fact that they now have 710 00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:21,520 Speaker 1: a biological male teammate who won one race and for 711 00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:23,920 Speaker 1: people out there who don't know swimming, this is virtually 712 00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:28,319 Speaker 1: unheard of by thirty eight seconds and another race by 713 00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:35,160 Speaker 1: fifteen seconds. It just doesn't happen, and the identities colliding here. Feminists, 714 00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:38,839 Speaker 1: people who believe in Title nine the equality of women's athletics, 715 00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:43,319 Speaker 1: are terrified to speak out, even though what we are 716 00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:48,120 Speaker 1: seeing is the destruction of women's athletics because biological men 717 00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:50,960 Speaker 1: are bigger, stronger, and faster than women. And even if 718 00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:53,080 Speaker 1: they decide to identify as women, and even if they 719 00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:57,000 Speaker 1: potentially take some testosterone blockers, at estrogen, whatever else, as 720 00:42:57,040 --> 00:43:00,839 Speaker 1: you pointed out, they still have massive physical vantages, which 721 00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:04,960 Speaker 1: is why men's and women's sports have been separated forever, 722 00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:08,799 Speaker 1: because otherwise women wouldn't be able to compete biologically with men. 723 00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:12,080 Speaker 1: That's right, and you know, look, just to give these 724 00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:15,880 Speaker 1: students their due, they're terrified of the reprisal of the 725 00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:19,759 Speaker 1: DEI officers, the diversity officers in their own school. They're 726 00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:21,760 Speaker 1: afraid they won't be able to go to law school 727 00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:26,120 Speaker 1: or medical school or whatever their next goal is professionally. 728 00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:28,960 Speaker 1: But now is their time because they actually have nothing 729 00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:32,120 Speaker 1: to gain at this point. Their records are being vandalized. 730 00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:37,160 Speaker 1: They cannot win. It's a completely fixed fight, and we're 731 00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:39,799 Speaker 1: going to lose all the games of Title nine if 732 00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:42,560 Speaker 1: people don't start speaking up. And frankly, it's incumbent on 733 00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:45,560 Speaker 1: the coaches to stand up for the young women. They 734 00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:48,680 Speaker 1: need to stand up and the young women themselves, I 735 00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:51,480 Speaker 1: believe they should. Abigail I was talking about this earlier 736 00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:53,399 Speaker 1: in the show. We talked about it some last week. 737 00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:55,600 Speaker 1: One of the things I expected that there would be 738 00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:58,160 Speaker 1: people who would push back against the articles that we 739 00:43:58,239 --> 00:44:00,960 Speaker 1: put up at OutKick from the two women speaking out 740 00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:05,000 Speaker 1: against this transgender teammate. We didn't actually have anybody pushback, 741 00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:08,400 Speaker 1: and that, to me is almost even more chilling, because 742 00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:11,560 Speaker 1: what it reflects is so many people in the sports 743 00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:16,719 Speaker 1: industry who understand the value of competition is and that 744 00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:20,000 Speaker 1: this is the antithesis of that, are not even willing 745 00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:23,319 Speaker 1: to argue in favor of it. They're just pretending it 746 00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:26,040 Speaker 1: doesn't exist. Is that what you see a lot as 747 00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:30,000 Speaker 1: you've covered issues such as these that, because that chilling impact, 748 00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:32,319 Speaker 1: you don't even really get a debate. You just get 749 00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:35,160 Speaker 1: people pretending that it doesn't exist at all. Right, we 750 00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:37,680 Speaker 1: could make this all go away tomorrow, in other words, 751 00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:40,400 Speaker 1: because actually, what people don't realize is that most Americans 752 00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:43,439 Speaker 1: are completely reasonable and they don't want to destroy women's sports. 753 00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:47,080 Speaker 1: We're actually very proud of our female athletes adjects in 754 00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:50,239 Speaker 1: this country and across the board, we're proud of them. 755 00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:53,279 Speaker 1: So the question is do you let petulant mobs of 756 00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:57,200 Speaker 1: children scare you out of saying what's true? Or are 757 00:44:57,239 --> 00:44:59,600 Speaker 1: you willing to stand up to them? And if you, 758 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:02,640 Speaker 1: you could lose this country over it. You see the silencing, 759 00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:05,680 Speaker 1: You see how little you know free, how diminished our 760 00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:09,000 Speaker 1: ability to speak the truth is? You know in public? 761 00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:12,120 Speaker 1: You know, given that they we've allowed them to push 762 00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:14,959 Speaker 1: us around, and now is the time to really stand 763 00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:16,840 Speaker 1: up to them and say no more. We're speaking to 764 00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:19,880 Speaker 1: Abigail Schreyer. She's an award winning journalist. Her book is 765 00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:24,919 Speaker 1: Irreversible Damage, the transgender Craze, Seducing our daughters, and get 766 00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:27,399 Speaker 1: it if for no other reason, it's excellent, but get 767 00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:29,719 Speaker 1: it because they don't want you to have it. The 768 00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:32,279 Speaker 1: left does not want you to own this book, to 769 00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:34,560 Speaker 1: buy this book, which is a great enough reason, I 770 00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:37,440 Speaker 1: think for all of you out there, Abigail. To that end, 771 00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:40,359 Speaker 1: it seems that and this this also comes up when 772 00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:43,520 Speaker 1: Clay mentions where's all the pushback to the article on 773 00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:47,760 Speaker 1: out kick? It seems that we're in a society now, 774 00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:51,080 Speaker 1: where there are machines and institutions, And by machines, I 775 00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:55,960 Speaker 1: mean there are you know, advocacy groups and activists and 776 00:45:56,320 --> 00:46:01,120 Speaker 1: social media giants who enforce this or the doc see. 777 00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:04,880 Speaker 1: But I can't ever see a person going out there 778 00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:08,280 Speaker 1: and engaging in debate on this issue. For example, everyone 779 00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:10,680 Speaker 1: at CNN will say that what's going on with the 780 00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:14,160 Speaker 1: or MSNBC pick a channel that is left leaning, same 781 00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:17,120 Speaker 1: thing on I'm sure NBC News now they'll celebrate the 782 00:46:17,239 --> 00:46:20,239 Speaker 1: upen mail swimmer beating all of these women. They won't 783 00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:24,200 Speaker 1: ever engage in debate these DNI people that you talk about, 784 00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:27,920 Speaker 1: and the HR offices, major corporations. It feels like no 785 00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:31,200 Speaker 1: one will take the heat for the unreality we are 786 00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:34,560 Speaker 1: forced to believe in, but there are institutions that manage 787 00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:38,200 Speaker 1: to push it so that there's no accountability for the insanity. 788 00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:40,440 Speaker 1: Do you see what I mean? And it's exactly what 789 00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:42,560 Speaker 1: you mean, and you're right. No one's willing to debate 790 00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:45,359 Speaker 1: because they lose on the merits and every American, every 791 00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:48,160 Speaker 1: reasonable American, knows they're out of their minds right. They 792 00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:50,640 Speaker 1: don't want to lose all of women's rights, which is 793 00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:52,640 Speaker 1: what we're looking at right now. We're seeing men in 794 00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:56,240 Speaker 1: battered women shelters and men's prisons. Talk to the women. 795 00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:58,960 Speaker 1: I've talked to the women at the Chowchilla Women's Prison 796 00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:02,480 Speaker 1: in California, and they're terrified. They've got men in their selves, 797 00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:05,720 Speaker 1: men who are capable of getting a full erection merely 798 00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:09,480 Speaker 1: because they announced their women. And what's going on in 799 00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:12,920 Speaker 1: this country right now is insane. We know it's insane. 800 00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:15,360 Speaker 1: And all it takes is the will of good people 801 00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:17,879 Speaker 1: to stand up and say this is nuts, no more, 802 00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:22,200 Speaker 1: not in my country. Abigail jk Rowling, who a lot 803 00:47:22,239 --> 00:47:24,759 Speaker 1: of people out there are going to know as the 804 00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:28,279 Speaker 1: author of the Harry Potter books, has actually been a 805 00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:31,399 Speaker 1: pretty good advocate for many of the things that you're 806 00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:36,520 Speaker 1: speaking about, and she has gotten absolutely savaged for this. Now, 807 00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:39,520 Speaker 1: it would be easy for somebody who is basically a 808 00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:42,040 Speaker 1: billionaire like her to just say, hey, I'm not going 809 00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:44,759 Speaker 1: to get involved in any of these in any of 810 00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:47,719 Speaker 1: these cases. Have you had any interaction with her? What 811 00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:51,160 Speaker 1: do you think of her willingness to actually step forward 812 00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:55,239 Speaker 1: on an issue such as this and fight battles. I 813 00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:59,280 Speaker 1: think she's wonderful. I think that you know, sometimes people 814 00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:01,560 Speaker 1: dismiss her, say, oh, she can do it because she's 815 00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:04,600 Speaker 1: a billionaire, to which I say, where are the other billionaires? 816 00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:10,720 Speaker 1: They're silent. I think she's an incredibly admirable and wonderful person. 817 00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:13,719 Speaker 1: She has done more to stand up for women's rights 818 00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:17,760 Speaker 1: than you know, than you know vast majorities of women. 819 00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:20,640 Speaker 1: And I'll tell you she does it as great expense 820 00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:23,640 Speaker 1: to herself. She didn't have to do this, she did it, 821 00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:25,880 Speaker 1: and I think really she has to be commended for it. 822 00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:28,719 Speaker 1: I'm just wondering when people that you know or come 823 00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:31,960 Speaker 1: across in the media, they become familiar with with what 824 00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:33,719 Speaker 1: you say on this day, either here you on this show, 825 00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:36,560 Speaker 1: they see you on Tucker Show on Fox talking about 826 00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:39,920 Speaker 1: this issue. Do they just pretty much everyone admit to 827 00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:43,120 Speaker 1: you in private that what you're saying is true, but 828 00:48:43,239 --> 00:48:46,000 Speaker 1: publicly or or do you come across true believers in 829 00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:48,319 Speaker 1: the media who really think that men can be women 830 00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:50,480 Speaker 1: and men can get pregnant, and I mean in a 831 00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:55,759 Speaker 1: private setting, not for the virtue signaling. In the broader media, right, 832 00:48:55,880 --> 00:48:58,640 Speaker 1: almost everyone agrees with me so much so that I 833 00:48:58,719 --> 00:49:02,799 Speaker 1: have gotten literally, you know, the top democratic aids to 834 00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:06,800 Speaker 1: the most left wing democrats writing to me saying, you know, privately, 835 00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:09,719 Speaker 1: I agree with you. There's almost no one who supports 836 00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:14,640 Speaker 1: the views of these young radical extremists. But they look 837 00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:17,120 Speaker 1: they have a lot of influence in social media. They 838 00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:20,600 Speaker 1: throw fits, companies cave to them, so they are exercising 839 00:49:20,719 --> 00:49:24,640 Speaker 1: vastly outsized power. They don't have the numbers, but they're 840 00:49:24,680 --> 00:49:28,479 Speaker 1: exercising a lot of power right now, like the digital Bolsheviks. Clay, 841 00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:32,080 Speaker 1: it is how much of this is social media? Abigail 842 00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:36,560 Speaker 1: and your experience, because you're around my age, and it 843 00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:39,000 Speaker 1: means that if you're around our age, you may have 844 00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:41,920 Speaker 1: been working in media in your twenties and thirties and 845 00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:46,160 Speaker 1: you didn't have this stultifying cancel culture raining down upon you. 846 00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:48,680 Speaker 1: People still had debates. How much of this do you 847 00:49:48,719 --> 00:49:53,040 Speaker 1: think is directly related to the power of Twitter? Where 848 00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:56,560 Speaker 1: to my point, nobody's defending the idea of a biological 849 00:49:56,600 --> 00:49:59,440 Speaker 1: man competing with women. But they're just trying to pretend 850 00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:02,760 Speaker 1: it doesn't exist, I believe because they're terrified that they'll 851 00:50:02,760 --> 00:50:05,239 Speaker 1: be the target if somebody at a ESPN speaks out, 852 00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:08,919 Speaker 1: if somebody at a prominent sports network speaks out. They 853 00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:11,560 Speaker 1: think they'll be attacked for this in a way that 854 00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:14,560 Speaker 1: I don't think was present prior to the rise of Twitter. 855 00:50:15,120 --> 00:50:18,680 Speaker 1: I think it's almost entirely because of social media. People 856 00:50:18,719 --> 00:50:21,200 Speaker 1: are parents who speak out about this, parents who tell 857 00:50:21,239 --> 00:50:23,920 Speaker 1: their daughters this is nonsense, are afraid of being outed 858 00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:27,400 Speaker 1: on social media. Everyone is. We have this now system 859 00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:30,640 Speaker 1: in this country where we're constantly being monitored to see 860 00:50:30,640 --> 00:50:34,279 Speaker 1: if we obey the orthodoxy, and anyone can be exposed 861 00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:37,000 Speaker 1: in front of thousands or even millions, depending on what 862 00:50:37,120 --> 00:50:42,319 Speaker 1: goes viral. And that's really the problem. Americans remain very reasonable. 863 00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:46,840 Speaker 1: They've always been and we continue to be, but unfortunately 864 00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:52,080 Speaker 1: they're able to leverage this monitoring system and exposing each 865 00:50:52,120 --> 00:50:56,200 Speaker 1: other's and effectively a tattletale system, and it's really keeping 866 00:50:56,239 --> 00:50:59,919 Speaker 1: people in line, who really, could you know, push back 867 00:51:00,200 --> 00:51:03,960 Speaker 1: very effectively if they realized how thin, you know, the 868 00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:07,399 Speaker 1: agreement on the other side. What did you think? I'm 869 00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:10,960 Speaker 1: curious if you watched the Dave Chappelle Netflix special and 870 00:51:11,080 --> 00:51:13,719 Speaker 1: what did you think of the controversy that emerged from that. 871 00:51:14,239 --> 00:51:16,759 Speaker 1: He's terrific, you know, he's able to Dave Chappelle is 872 00:51:16,800 --> 00:51:19,680 Speaker 1: able to do with what few people a few other 873 00:51:19,719 --> 00:51:21,719 Speaker 1: people are willing to do. And look, he came at 874 00:51:21,719 --> 00:51:24,480 Speaker 1: great cost, he lost his documentary over it, but he 875 00:51:24,520 --> 00:51:26,839 Speaker 1: speaks the truth and we all admire him for that. 876 00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:31,080 Speaker 1: And look, he's not a transphobe, but you know, he 877 00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:33,440 Speaker 1: lives in the world and is willing to call things 878 00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:35,640 Speaker 1: as they see him as he sees them, and he 879 00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:39,360 Speaker 1: really is to be admired for that. Abigel Schreier, journalist 880 00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:44,560 Speaker 1: and author of Irreversible Damage, the Transgender Craze Seducing our Daughters, 881 00:51:44,719 --> 00:51:47,200 Speaker 1: Abigail Clint, I really admire your courage on this issue 882 00:51:47,320 --> 00:51:49,719 Speaker 1: and your clear sightedness on it. Thank you so much 883 00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:54,560 Speaker 1: for being with us. Thank you. 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