1 00:00:08,520 --> 00:00:11,440 Speaker 1: Hell, Hey, Angel fans, Welcome back to Halo territory. I 2 00:00:11,480 --> 00:00:14,760 Speaker 1: am Mike di Giovanna, former La Times Baseball writer and 3 00:00:14,880 --> 00:00:17,840 Speaker 1: host of the show, joined by my regular co host 4 00:00:17,880 --> 00:00:21,840 Speaker 1: Mark Trumbo, the former Angel slugger, and our guest today 5 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:25,360 Speaker 1: is Jeff Fletcher, the Angels long time now Angels beat 6 00:00:25,360 --> 00:00:28,200 Speaker 1: writer for the Orange County Register. Fletch, how you doing today? 7 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:31,639 Speaker 2: I'm great. How are you, guys, I'm good. 8 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:34,960 Speaker 1: Hey, thanks for joining us. So we are a solid 9 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:38,519 Speaker 1: month into spring training and now two weeks away from 10 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:41,360 Speaker 1: opening day, so we thought this would be a good 11 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:44,040 Speaker 1: time to take a closer look at what this Angel's 12 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:47,239 Speaker 1: team is going to look like. And to do that, 13 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:50,280 Speaker 1: we're turning to one of the very few reporters left 14 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:54,760 Speaker 1: to have actual eyes and ears on this team throughout 15 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:58,320 Speaker 1: spring training, and that's Fletch, who is more than qualified 16 00:00:58,360 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 1: to discuss the good, the bad, and if necessary, the 17 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:06,440 Speaker 1: ugly of what's going on in Tempe. So let's just 18 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:08,720 Speaker 1: try to start with the positives. What are you seeing 19 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 1: right now is the bright spots of what's going on 20 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:12,279 Speaker 1: in spring training. 21 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:16,600 Speaker 2: I mean, I think the most positive thing has got 22 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:20,080 Speaker 2: to be that Mike Trout is running really well, and 23 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:22,440 Speaker 2: I know you know, I've posted some things about his 24 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 2: sprint speed, and it's easy for people to make jokes 25 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:27,399 Speaker 2: about that, like who cares about his sprint speed? But 26 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:30,039 Speaker 2: the fact is, if he feels good enough to be 27 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:34,560 Speaker 2: running that hard, that is significant because, as Mark will 28 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:36,679 Speaker 2: tell you, you need your legs to be able to hit, 29 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:39,080 Speaker 2: you need your your knees are hurting, it's probably hard 30 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:42,039 Speaker 2: to hit. And if he can run, just on a 31 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:44,919 Speaker 2: spring training ground ball faster than he's running two years, 32 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:47,360 Speaker 2: that that means he's probably feeling pretty good. Also means 33 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:49,640 Speaker 2: he can probably play center field, which is an important thing. 34 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:54,800 Speaker 2: So I think that's been a positive. I think some 35 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 2: of the pitchers have looked pretty good. George Classon is 36 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:03,120 Speaker 2: probably the numbnumber one riser, I would say from spring 37 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:06,000 Speaker 2: training of a young guy who is probably not even 38 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 2: going to make the team this year, but in terms 39 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:11,760 Speaker 2: of like the future, he's really looked good so far. 40 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:15,639 Speaker 2: And Zach Ntto was doing his normal zach Nanto thing. 41 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:19,160 Speaker 2: Oh and the most positive probably Logano Hoppy Logan Oppi's 42 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 2: been killing the ball and he's actually been striking out 43 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:24,400 Speaker 2: less too, So I'd say those are some of the 44 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:25,079 Speaker 2: positives so. 45 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:28,240 Speaker 1: Far, Mark, I know we don't. We've talked about it before. 46 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:30,400 Speaker 1: We try not to put too much emphasis on numbers 47 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:33,400 Speaker 1: in spring training. But what are you seeing specifically from 48 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:37,840 Speaker 1: Logan o' hoppy that gives you an indication that maybe 49 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:41,960 Speaker 1: these numbers are actually reflective of a better approach at 50 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:42,640 Speaker 1: the plate. 51 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:47,880 Speaker 3: For Logan? And I think it's been fortunate the few 52 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:51,079 Speaker 3: TV games that have been accessible, he has played in 53 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:53,239 Speaker 3: a lot of them, so I've seen a few of 54 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 3: the home runs. I think it is three now from 55 00:02:56,480 --> 00:03:00,760 Speaker 3: a technical standpoint, not certain, but it appears he might 56 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:03,680 Speaker 3: be standing closer to the plate, which is a much 57 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:08,240 Speaker 3: better matchup. We commented on some of the off season videos, 58 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:10,560 Speaker 3: one of them in particular, and I know that I 59 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 3: was a little bit intrigued by it. It looked very 60 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:17,519 Speaker 3: pole oriented. But if you're going to be a poll hitter, 61 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:20,080 Speaker 3: the matchup that works best is to crowd the plate 62 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 3: netto does it. The trade off is you're going to 63 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:27,919 Speaker 3: wear some pitches, maybe a lot of them. But if 64 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:31,040 Speaker 3: that is kind of your mindset, and if Logan feels 65 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:33,120 Speaker 3: like he's best pulling the ball and obviously in the 66 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 3: air is great, He's so far so good. I'm interested 67 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 3: if Fletch can maybe talk about his work with the glove, 68 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:45,160 Speaker 3: because we it seems like some of the starters have 69 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 3: had decent outings. I'm not, but we noticed that there. 70 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 3: I commented on one of the other shows, I did 71 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 3: see that glove movement that I'm not a huge fan 72 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:58,840 Speaker 3: of personally, the late movement trying to get underneath the ball, 73 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:03,440 Speaker 3: and it's probably here to stay. So maybe pitchers are 74 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 3: not not rattled at all by To me, it looks 75 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 3: maybe a little dramatic, and I don't know if that's 76 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 3: even a story at all. But he's had a very 77 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 3: very good start, and that's very encouraging. 78 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:18,880 Speaker 2: Really speak much to his receiving, because first of all, 79 00:04:18,960 --> 00:04:20,920 Speaker 2: even the games, I'm mad, I'm watching from behind him, 80 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:23,000 Speaker 2: so I'm not even seeing, you know, the way he's 81 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 2: receiving the ball, and I'm certainly not an expert in 82 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 2: it any way, But I do know that he's got 83 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 2: Max Stassy working with him every day and he was 84 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:33,119 Speaker 2: a great receiver, and Kurtzuzuki is now the manager, plus 85 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:35,960 Speaker 2: even Travis Darnaut. So I think if any group of 86 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:38,840 Speaker 2: people can can get Logan on the right track as 87 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 2: far as the defensive stuff, I think it's those guys. 88 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 1: One guy who's impressed me so far is Oswald Perrazza. 89 00:04:46,279 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure he's going to make the team. Is 90 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 1: a utility guy, and once again numbers of numbers in 91 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:53,600 Speaker 1: spring training, but he entered Wednesday hitting three twenty one 92 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:58,400 Speaker 1: with a one forty six ops, two homers, four doubles, 93 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:01,920 Speaker 1: seven RBIs, and he's looked pretty good defensively at short 94 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 1: I'm just wondering, Fletch, could you know Joann mccott Moncatta, 95 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 1: he's always he's injured often, so there's a good chance 96 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 1: Paraza can get some time at third base, but I 97 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:15,960 Speaker 1: don't think his splits are that great from the right side. 98 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:18,839 Speaker 1: Could you envision a possible platoon at third base with 99 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:20,920 Speaker 1: Paraza getting a little more playing time than he might 100 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:23,720 Speaker 1: normally get in in a utility role. 101 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:27,320 Speaker 2: I mean, if Marcatta is healthy, I think he's going 102 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:30,040 Speaker 2: to play every day. But there's obviously he's not healthy 103 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 2: a lot, and in that case they do have kind 104 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:35,040 Speaker 2: of a conga line of guys lined up to replace him. 105 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:39,960 Speaker 2: Christian Morris played third, Grison has played third, Parazo's obviously 106 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:45,080 Speaker 2: played third, Jehimer Candelario has been playing pretty well the spring. 107 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:47,480 Speaker 2: He also can play third, so I think they're sort 108 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:52,080 Speaker 2: of getting ready to replace Moncata for when he gets hurt, 109 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 2: and that could be any of those guys. 110 00:05:54,520 --> 00:05:58,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, where are we at second base right now? I 111 00:05:58,360 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 1: saw a story yesterday that projected Adam Frasier as the 112 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:06,440 Speaker 1: starting second baseman. Where is Christian Moore in the mix? 113 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:09,240 Speaker 1: Is there anyone else in that mix right now? Who's 114 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:11,120 Speaker 1: sort of that seems to be the one spot that's 115 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:11,919 Speaker 1: sort of off for grab. 116 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:17,120 Speaker 2: Still, Yeah, I mean it is very interesting. I probably 117 00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 2: going into spring, I thought it was going to be 118 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 2: Christian Moore, and then about four or five days ago, 119 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:23,720 Speaker 2: I thought it was going to be Adam Fraser. And 120 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:28,680 Speaker 2: then lately I really looked into Christian Moore and his 121 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 2: numbers are not very good, but he'd been hitting some 122 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:34,480 Speaker 2: balls really hard, and I started to think, man, it 123 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:37,599 Speaker 2: seems like maybe he's hitting balls better than his numbers. 124 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:41,039 Speaker 2: So I looked it up and his exit velocity, I 125 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:42,680 Speaker 2: know you guys can laugh at this too, is like 126 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:44,920 Speaker 2: one of the best of the majors and a way 127 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:47,080 Speaker 2: better than it was last year. And you know, you 128 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:48,680 Speaker 2: talk to some other people and they go, yeah, he's 129 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:51,680 Speaker 2: really made some improvements offensively, it's just not showing up 130 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:54,200 Speaker 2: and hits yet. So I do think that they feel 131 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 2: like he's hit a lot better than his numbers, and 132 00:06:57,720 --> 00:06:59,839 Speaker 2: considering that he was sort of the guy that started 133 00:06:59,880 --> 00:07:02,600 Speaker 2: off off, I think with the position, I wouldn't be 134 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:04,840 Speaker 2: surprised if he ends up with it. Plus, we still 135 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:06,480 Speaker 2: do have two weeks to go before they have to 136 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:09,600 Speaker 2: make the decision. But Adam Fraser is looking like a 137 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 2: great safety net and he's a very good defensive league 138 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 2: and Perry likes to say he's one of those guys 139 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 2: that won't lose you games and they need, you know, 140 00:07:17,960 --> 00:07:20,160 Speaker 2: some kind of guys like that. So I think it's 141 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:23,440 Speaker 2: probably gonna be one of those two guys. And right 142 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:26,880 Speaker 2: now I'd probably go sixty forty for Christian Moore. 143 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:30,600 Speaker 1: Wow, Mark, are you, from what little action you've seen 144 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:34,520 Speaker 1: on TV, anything about Christian Moore's approach that you've noticed 145 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:36,200 Speaker 1: as being an improvement over last year. 146 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 3: I haven't seen much coverage, unfortunately, but you know, earlier 147 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:46,920 Speaker 3: we had talked about it, what stat line well or 148 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:49,680 Speaker 3: in a mo roster spot starting spot, and I think 149 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:51,560 Speaker 3: I threw out two fifty could have been even a 150 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:55,640 Speaker 3: little lower if there was a floor, But it's kind 151 00:07:55,640 --> 00:07:58,240 Speaker 3: of in that area now. If you are going off 152 00:07:58,240 --> 00:08:02,240 Speaker 3: the stats, which most teams, it's probably a blend. 153 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:02,880 Speaker 2: You know. 154 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 3: I'd like to think that there are some jobs, you know, 155 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 3: maybe on most teams available, and this team definitely, you know, 156 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 3: nothing set in stone. Moncano's salary is also not excessive, 157 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 3: so it's not as if you're having to, you know, 158 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:23,480 Speaker 3: eat some huge amount if somebody out plays him. But 159 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:27,000 Speaker 3: as far as track record, he is, you know, has 160 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:30,880 Speaker 3: the strongest track record there more. The ex velocity is 161 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:32,360 Speaker 3: not something to laugh at. It that's the way the 162 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:34,560 Speaker 3: game is evaluated now. And if he's squaring balls up 163 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:38,640 Speaker 3: and I need to look a little bit closer admittedly 164 00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 3: aware he's squaring them up, and how you know are 165 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 3: they line outs? Is he hitting it on the ground. 166 00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:45,760 Speaker 3: I saw Tiodosio had a really high exit vealo the 167 00:08:45,800 --> 00:08:47,960 Speaker 3: other day and it was it was a smothered ball. 168 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 3: I think you got to hit on it. But you know, 169 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:53,960 Speaker 3: it's good to see. Solid contact is really good to see. 170 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:56,120 Speaker 3: There are a number of guys that I haven't seen 171 00:08:56,200 --> 00:08:59,520 Speaker 3: much of that from, and I did look at you know, 172 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:01,480 Speaker 3: a lot of at bats there and we can talk 173 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:05,880 Speaker 3: about that. But Fraser's also a left handed bat, so 174 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:08,240 Speaker 3: in a lineup that can be a little bit right 175 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:13,600 Speaker 3: handed heavy. You know. That's that's very good. And it's 176 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:15,520 Speaker 3: the first time I've heard the quote about he won't 177 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:20,000 Speaker 3: lose you games, which I guess there's a if there's that, 178 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:22,920 Speaker 3: there's probably the other side of it too, And hopefully 179 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 3: that label you know, was never attached to yours truly, 180 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:30,280 Speaker 3: but so it goes all right. 181 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:32,600 Speaker 1: We're going to take a quick break for a word 182 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:34,800 Speaker 1: from our sponsors, and when we come back, we'll get 183 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:37,760 Speaker 1: a little more into the pitching side, and we'll talk 184 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:41,400 Speaker 1: a little bit about first year manager Kurt Suzuki and 185 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:43,360 Speaker 1: what his impact on the club has been so far. 186 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 1: So we'll be right back with more Halo Territory. 187 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:49,040 Speaker 4: We love Hello Fresh, shout out to them, and over 188 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:52,400 Speaker 4: one hundred recipes to choose from each week to provide variety. 189 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:55,240 Speaker 4: There the spice of life. 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I think if 214 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:09,800 Speaker 1: he feels good, that's at least an encouraging sign, But 215 00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:12,680 Speaker 1: at the plate doesn't seem like he has looked that good. 216 00:11:12,720 --> 00:11:14,840 Speaker 1: What are you seeing from him at this point, Fletch? 217 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:19,400 Speaker 1: Does he show any signs of returning to the mic 218 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:23,080 Speaker 1: is something resembling the Mike Trout we all knew and loved. 219 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:26,640 Speaker 2: Well, He's not striking out as much as he did 220 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:30,560 Speaker 2: last year, so I think that that's something to take that. 221 00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:33,320 Speaker 2: He said that the problems he was having last year 222 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:34,760 Speaker 2: when he was striking out so much was because he 223 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:37,760 Speaker 2: wasn't really seeing the ball well enough because his head 224 00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:41,080 Speaker 2: was getting all out of whack with his swing. And 225 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:42,960 Speaker 2: so if he feels like his head is back in 226 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:46,080 Speaker 2: the right place, he's seeing the ball and at least 227 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 2: making contact. So I'm not too worried about Mike Trout. 228 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:51,640 Speaker 2: I don't think he's going to be thousand ops Mike Trout, 229 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:55,480 Speaker 2: but I definitely think he could be eight thirty Mic 230 00:11:55,520 --> 00:11:58,000 Speaker 2: Trout again, which would be better than anybody else they have, 231 00:11:58,160 --> 00:12:00,840 Speaker 2: So I think he'll be all right. Mark. 232 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:03,160 Speaker 1: What are you seeing from Trout and what do you 233 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:05,160 Speaker 1: think about his sprint speeds at first base? 234 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:11,320 Speaker 3: On the surface of positive for a guy that has 235 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:16,880 Speaker 3: battled injury, is that represented I'm assuming that's one hundred 236 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:20,200 Speaker 3: percent effort, and if there are balls he's looking to 237 00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:23,240 Speaker 3: beat out, then that's you don't have time to think, 238 00:12:23,240 --> 00:12:26,120 Speaker 3: and you're not going to think when the game, you know, 239 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:29,640 Speaker 3: is happening, especially during the regular season. If you're sniffing 240 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:32,760 Speaker 3: a hit, you're going to go for it. So that 241 00:12:32,840 --> 00:12:37,080 Speaker 3: is that is really nice. I haven't seen well too 242 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:41,520 Speaker 3: many abouts again, but the solid contact, it doesn't appear 243 00:12:41,640 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 3: to have really arrived yet that he has a strong 244 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:49,000 Speaker 3: track record. I will say this and I've hesitated, but 245 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:54,040 Speaker 3: mechanically speaking, he has cited some things that he believes 246 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:58,800 Speaker 3: are the culprit for some of his struggles. I think 247 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:03,120 Speaker 3: he's his leg in particular. At times he has mentioned 248 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:06,160 Speaker 3: as kind of one of the one of the biggest culprits, 249 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:10,480 Speaker 3: and I think that he's right about that. But part 250 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:13,720 Speaker 3: of it too, I think his timing hasn't been as 251 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:16,559 Speaker 3: good as it has been in the past. Last year especially, 252 00:13:16,640 --> 00:13:21,040 Speaker 3: I noticed he was late getting his foot in the air. 253 00:13:21,160 --> 00:13:25,160 Speaker 3: He usually uses a bigger leg kick and you know, 254 00:13:25,679 --> 00:13:28,320 Speaker 3: as a player, he's light years better than I ever was. 255 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:31,680 Speaker 3: But certain things like that I can spot and I 256 00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:34,600 Speaker 3: have thought for a while. And the thing is when 257 00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:37,959 Speaker 3: you're late those swings. Because you're late, you're going to 258 00:13:38,040 --> 00:13:41,080 Speaker 3: have to make up ground very quickly, and some things 259 00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:44,199 Speaker 3: are going to either be expedited or cut out of 260 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:46,920 Speaker 3: the swing. So in order to get the bat to 261 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:49,520 Speaker 3: the ball, if you are late, you're going to do 262 00:13:49,559 --> 00:13:53,040 Speaker 3: some funky things sometimes. So I know when he's mentioning that. 263 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:54,839 Speaker 3: Sometimes it's kind of vague, I do know what he's 264 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:57,800 Speaker 3: getting at, and it creates kind of a at times, 265 00:13:57,840 --> 00:14:01,280 Speaker 3: a little bit of an excessive curvature back getting geeky. 266 00:14:01,360 --> 00:14:04,600 Speaker 3: But the trout I like is the one that you 267 00:14:04,640 --> 00:14:08,240 Speaker 3: know is line to line and is taking his singles 268 00:14:08,280 --> 00:14:10,960 Speaker 3: as well. That's boring. Nobody thinks that, you know whatever, 269 00:14:11,280 --> 00:14:13,640 Speaker 3: but that that represents a very tough out at the plate, 270 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:15,480 Speaker 3: a guy that can shoot it in the four hole. 271 00:14:16,559 --> 00:14:19,760 Speaker 3: He used to hit a ton of doubles, rockets down 272 00:14:19,800 --> 00:14:22,560 Speaker 3: the third baseline. I know he still does to some degree, 273 00:14:22,960 --> 00:14:25,520 Speaker 3: but I'd like a little more emphasis on balls on 274 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:27,720 Speaker 3: the line. He's going to hit his home runs as 275 00:14:27,760 --> 00:14:31,160 Speaker 3: strong as they come. But the high, you know, the 276 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:34,040 Speaker 3: really high excessive launch angle. I think, you know, we 277 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:35,880 Speaker 3: could bring it down a little bit and he's going 278 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:37,360 Speaker 3: to have a fantastic season. 279 00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:42,360 Speaker 1: Nolan shan Well came into camp hoping some improved bat 280 00:14:42,480 --> 00:14:44,720 Speaker 1: speed would lead to more power. So far, the numbers 281 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:48,200 Speaker 1: aren't reflecting that a five forty ops, zero home or 282 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:51,920 Speaker 1: zero RBI is going into Wednesday. What is going on 283 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:54,640 Speaker 1: with him, Jeff? Any reason for concern there? 284 00:14:56,800 --> 00:14:59,000 Speaker 2: I mean, honestly, I haven't paid that much attention to Shanwell. 285 00:14:59,040 --> 00:15:00,800 Speaker 2: He played a few games in Vegas which I didn't 286 00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:03,320 Speaker 2: even see, and it's still so few with bats, and 287 00:15:04,040 --> 00:15:07,160 Speaker 2: I think everybody top to bottom admits that he's maybe 288 00:15:07,200 --> 00:15:10,960 Speaker 2: the best pure hitter that they have, you know, not 289 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:13,160 Speaker 2: just power, but like being able to put the bat 290 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:15,680 Speaker 2: on the ball moving around the field. So I don't 291 00:15:15,680 --> 00:15:18,960 Speaker 2: think anybody's really worried about twenty plate appearances so far 292 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:22,600 Speaker 2: on spring training. If we're having this conversation on May first, 293 00:15:22,720 --> 00:15:25,800 Speaker 2: maybe it's a problem, but I think he'll be all right. 294 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:30,560 Speaker 1: And what about show Adell numbers not great eleven strikeouts, 295 00:15:30,680 --> 00:15:35,360 Speaker 1: zero walks going into Wednesday's game. As he looked how 296 00:15:35,400 --> 00:15:38,520 Speaker 1: does he look to you? And what are you seeing 297 00:15:38,520 --> 00:15:39,360 Speaker 1: from him right now? 298 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:43,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, he has looked a little out of sorts him. 299 00:15:43,280 --> 00:15:46,000 Speaker 2: I have seen a little more. And you know, because 300 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:48,240 Speaker 2: it's funny because he was really of the whole team 301 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:52,000 Speaker 2: last year maybe the only guy that really overperformed what 302 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:55,200 Speaker 2: you expected. Everybody else was at or below and so 303 00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:58,680 Speaker 2: he's maybe trying a little too hard to take the 304 00:15:58,680 --> 00:16:02,400 Speaker 2: next step and get even better. And you know, I 305 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:04,720 Speaker 2: think that again, it's not very many at bats, but 306 00:16:05,640 --> 00:16:09,160 Speaker 2: he is still he has not looked quite right this spring. Mark. 307 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:11,520 Speaker 1: What is that next step for Nolan? I mean, can 308 00:16:11,560 --> 00:16:14,600 Speaker 1: you just improve your bad speed by a significant significant 309 00:16:14,640 --> 00:16:17,840 Speaker 1: amount in one offseason? Is it going to be more strength? 310 00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:23,280 Speaker 3: Shadow all we're talking about? Correct? 311 00:16:23,400 --> 00:16:24,200 Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah Nolan? 312 00:16:24,400 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like he's somewhat caught in the middle. 313 00:16:27,960 --> 00:16:33,400 Speaker 3: This rhetoric is he continues and you'll carry it for 314 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:35,640 Speaker 3: a long time. Now. He did say something that made 315 00:16:35,640 --> 00:16:38,400 Speaker 3: a lot of sense, is hitting more doubles because he 316 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:42,920 Speaker 3: is a first baseman, he doesn't run well and his 317 00:16:43,520 --> 00:16:48,000 Speaker 3: biggest strength plays better at other positions. To be honest, 318 00:16:48,040 --> 00:16:50,840 Speaker 3: he first basement are generally count going to drive the ball. 319 00:16:51,880 --> 00:16:54,040 Speaker 3: He could get to a twenty home run bat, I think, 320 00:16:55,280 --> 00:16:57,560 Speaker 3: but it's going to take some tweaking with the approach. 321 00:16:57,560 --> 00:17:00,360 Speaker 3: He's going to have to take more shots downfield and 322 00:17:00,400 --> 00:17:05,119 Speaker 3: be willing to cut it loose, which can be you know, 323 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:07,640 Speaker 3: it takes away from some of the things he does well. 324 00:17:07,680 --> 00:17:11,520 Speaker 3: That low exit velocity and slower bat speed is also 325 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:15,800 Speaker 3: more precise, and I think that's one of his biggest strengths. 326 00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:19,200 Speaker 3: So finding that happy medium is going to be interesting. 327 00:17:19,359 --> 00:17:21,280 Speaker 3: I watched the other day he got hit by a pitch. 328 00:17:22,280 --> 00:17:23,960 Speaker 3: Maybe he has some history with the pitcher, but he 329 00:17:24,040 --> 00:17:26,639 Speaker 3: fired the bat down, looked like he was ready to fight. 330 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:30,280 Speaker 3: But he also crowds the plate big time, and he 331 00:17:30,359 --> 00:17:33,399 Speaker 3: made an error on defense. And it hasn't been a 332 00:17:33,400 --> 00:17:36,440 Speaker 3: great camp so far, and coming from a former player, 333 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:41,919 Speaker 3: spring is not you know, is it important? It is? You? 334 00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:44,080 Speaker 3: Lighting the world on fire is great Kyan Paris. I 335 00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:47,600 Speaker 3: believe last year had I had an unbelievable spring, and 336 00:17:47,680 --> 00:17:50,160 Speaker 3: some guys every year have a great spring. Solaire seems 337 00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:52,760 Speaker 3: to be a strong performer, but you don't really want 338 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:57,600 Speaker 3: to be hitting that poorly, so I think Nolan's probably 339 00:17:57,600 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 3: hoping for a you know, a two three hit game. 340 00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:03,760 Speaker 3: With so few of bats, those numbers can change very quickly. 341 00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:05,840 Speaker 3: But I'd like to see a little bit more out 342 00:18:05,840 --> 00:18:08,160 Speaker 3: of him, and I'd like to see a lot more 343 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:12,240 Speaker 3: out of Darnault with the bat. It's been very slow going. 344 00:18:12,359 --> 00:18:15,399 Speaker 3: He did not have a good season last year. I 345 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:17,359 Speaker 3: think with the glove he still brings a lot of 346 00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:20,679 Speaker 3: value there. But you know the years he's produced with 347 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:24,040 Speaker 3: the bat. Last year wasn't a good one for him, 348 00:18:24,040 --> 00:18:26,040 Speaker 3: and so far in camp a lot of offers a 349 00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:31,320 Speaker 3: lot of case. Maybe Fletch's something I don't, but that's 350 00:18:31,359 --> 00:18:32,159 Speaker 3: kind of what I see. 351 00:18:34,040 --> 00:18:36,520 Speaker 1: Let's turn our attention to the pitching staff. Now, you 352 00:18:36,600 --> 00:18:40,600 Speaker 1: say Kokuchi away from the team with the Japanese team 353 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:45,200 Speaker 1: in the World Baseball Classic. Other guys, projected rotation guys, 354 00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:49,240 Speaker 1: the numbers aren't looking great. I wanted to focus, especially 355 00:18:49,240 --> 00:18:53,280 Speaker 1: on Reid Detmer's big transition for him going from the 356 00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:56,560 Speaker 1: bullpen back to the rotation. How does he look so far, 357 00:18:56,720 --> 00:18:59,040 Speaker 1: Fletch and as he hit any bumps in the road 358 00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:00,960 Speaker 1: with that's with that move. 359 00:19:02,840 --> 00:19:05,440 Speaker 2: You know. I would say for each of these pictures, 360 00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:09,679 Speaker 2: especially like Demurs and Grays and Ardriguez, each of their starts, 361 00:19:09,680 --> 00:19:12,200 Speaker 2: they seem to have like one inning where things are 362 00:19:12,240 --> 00:19:15,359 Speaker 2: not together, and then the rest of it they settled 363 00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:18,560 Speaker 2: in and they finished really strong. So I think it's 364 00:19:18,600 --> 00:19:22,639 Speaker 2: just they're trying to figure out, you know, how to 365 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:25,600 Speaker 2: get rolling. You know, I think that stuff is there 366 00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:27,880 Speaker 2: for all of them. They all have shown really flashes 367 00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:31,760 Speaker 2: of good stuff. We'll see what Mike maatics, the impact 368 00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:33,840 Speaker 2: he can have on them and getting them refined. But 369 00:19:34,600 --> 00:19:36,720 Speaker 2: I think they've all got the stuff there that they need. 370 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:39,840 Speaker 2: It's just a matter of consistency and maybe, you know, 371 00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:42,760 Speaker 2: the wrong pitch. One wrong pitch can easily end up 372 00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:45,159 Speaker 2: with the two or three on board, and you just 373 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:48,480 Speaker 2: can't do that. So they're gonna have to clear those 374 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:49,080 Speaker 2: out a little bit. 375 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:53,240 Speaker 1: Do we still see Alec Manoa holding down that fifth 376 00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:54,760 Speaker 1: rotation spot at this point? 377 00:19:56,440 --> 00:19:59,359 Speaker 2: You know, that's a great question. His first two starts 378 00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:02,880 Speaker 2: were pretty good and then the last one was disaster, 379 00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:07,800 Speaker 2: and Jack Kahanowitz actually pitched very well, so I would 380 00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:10,199 Speaker 2: say that he's making up some ground on him. And 381 00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:12,560 Speaker 2: as we speak here with you know, two weeks ago, 382 00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:15,320 Speaker 2: Manoa is pitching today. You know, right after I get 383 00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:17,200 Speaker 2: done talking to you guys, I'm gonna go watch him pitch, 384 00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:20,000 Speaker 2: so that'll be a big indication of how things are going. 385 00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:24,480 Speaker 2: But I would say definitely those two guys probably are 386 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:27,880 Speaker 2: in the running for the number five spot, and Mania 387 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:30,200 Speaker 2: he can be options still, he could be in the bullpen, 388 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:32,840 Speaker 2: so I don't think anything's a foregone a conclusion with him. 389 00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:35,800 Speaker 1: In terms of the bullpen. Where do you see that 390 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:38,760 Speaker 1: pecking order right now? It seems like, you know, on 391 00:20:38,800 --> 00:20:43,040 Speaker 1: an encouraging note, Robert Stevenson appears healthy. There's a good 392 00:20:43,119 --> 00:20:45,639 Speaker 1: chance Ben Joyce might be back early in the season. 393 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:50,680 Speaker 1: What's sort of the order higher leverage spots from those 394 00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:53,879 Speaker 1: two guys as we start the season. 395 00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:59,240 Speaker 2: Yes, Stevenson I would expect for opening day. Joyce I'm 396 00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:04,000 Speaker 2: gonna probably say is going to be like three weeks 397 00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:06,600 Speaker 2: into the season, maybe, just kind of based on the 398 00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:09,840 Speaker 2: trajectory of what he's doing so far. He hasn't faced 399 00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:13,760 Speaker 2: hitters yet, but he's throwing bullpens regularly. I think they're 400 00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:15,360 Speaker 2: just trying to be really cautious with him. They don't 401 00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:18,240 Speaker 2: want him to blow up again. And then after that, 402 00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:22,560 Speaker 2: you know, Yates, Romano, Pomerant, Suitor, all these guys. I 403 00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:25,920 Speaker 2: don't really think they needed to see much in spring 404 00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:29,480 Speaker 2: training because they all have pretty long careers that you 405 00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:33,560 Speaker 2: know what they are. And in the case of Romano 406 00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:35,679 Speaker 2: and Yates, they just need to be healthy and you 407 00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:37,520 Speaker 2: know what they are. Last year they were not healthy, 408 00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:40,920 Speaker 2: so so far they seem to be, so I think 409 00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:43,240 Speaker 2: they'll go into the season kind of I'm gonna guess 410 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:45,879 Speaker 2: Yates is the closer and the season starts, but the 411 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:49,680 Speaker 2: bullpens shuffle around all the time, and if somebody slumps 412 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:52,320 Speaker 2: and somebody else will get a chance, Stevenson could get 413 00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:54,240 Speaker 2: a chance. I think by the end of the year, 414 00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:57,000 Speaker 2: Joyce should be the closer. He better be the closer 415 00:21:57,119 --> 00:22:00,480 Speaker 2: or something wrong, And I think that's it's still the 416 00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:01,240 Speaker 2: long term answer. 417 00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:06,399 Speaker 1: Are there any emerging arms in that bullpen? It seems 418 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:09,840 Speaker 1: like every year some young guy jumps up, some guy 419 00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:14,080 Speaker 1: you didn't expect, maybe a non roster invite any arms 420 00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:17,879 Speaker 1: that could win some spots and you know, be a 421 00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:19,000 Speaker 1: factor early in the season. 422 00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:22,359 Speaker 2: I mean, I think Nick Sandlin is a guy that 423 00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:24,960 Speaker 2: I don't know if he'd really call him a young guy. 424 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:27,800 Speaker 2: He's a guy that they've gotten a he'd been with 425 00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:30,119 Speaker 2: the Blue Jays and he's coming off elbow surgery. And 426 00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:33,320 Speaker 2: he's a guy who was winning's healthy with the Guardians 427 00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:35,360 Speaker 2: and Blue Jays has always been good. He's just had 428 00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:39,240 Speaker 2: a lot of health problems, but he's also faced hitters 429 00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:42,359 Speaker 2: and has a good chance of being ready sometime in April. 430 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:45,359 Speaker 2: And if they get him, you know, I think he 431 00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:47,520 Speaker 2: should be a part of the bullpen. As for like 432 00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:52,680 Speaker 2: the prospects, there's really nobody that's jumping up and doing well. 433 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:56,320 Speaker 2: I mean, the two probably best young pitchers so far 434 00:22:56,440 --> 00:22:59,160 Speaker 2: in camp have been Ryan Johnson and George Closson. Both 435 00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:02,760 Speaker 2: those guys could be really eventually, but I think for 436 00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:07,639 Speaker 2: now they still want them to be starters. Oh, Sam Balkan, 437 00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:10,040 Speaker 2: as you mentioned Sam Ju, Yeah, he's actually looked really good. 438 00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:13,159 Speaker 2: He's looked really good out of the bullpen. I'd say 439 00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:15,720 Speaker 2: he's probably gonna make the team at this point. And 440 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:18,960 Speaker 2: he's definitely a guy that could have been a starter. 441 00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:20,919 Speaker 2: At times they thought of him as a starter. I 442 00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:23,080 Speaker 2: think now they're just he said, so many health problems, 443 00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:25,600 Speaker 2: they're just going to let him go in the bullpen. 444 00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:30,200 Speaker 2: And he's had a great spring. Granted it's like four games, 445 00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:32,120 Speaker 2: but he's looked so far. 446 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:37,520 Speaker 1: Mark, looking at the totality of this bullpen, any chance 447 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:39,880 Speaker 1: it could be a strength, there's still some big concerns 448 00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:40,240 Speaker 1: for you. 449 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:46,120 Speaker 3: I don't think it is going to be a bad one. 450 00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:53,000 Speaker 3: I think elite, probably not, but consistent is what I 451 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:56,040 Speaker 3: think they are going for Sandlin. I saw him throwing 452 00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:59,760 Speaker 3: the other day, either Jeff's video or someone's video. That's 453 00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:02,560 Speaker 3: a a tough arm angle, especially on righties. I think 454 00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:06,960 Speaker 3: it was a nice pick up. His stuff looks good. 455 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:10,040 Speaker 3: His numbers have always been good at the health as 456 00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:13,719 Speaker 3: it's the case great Ce Bachman doing well. I am 457 00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:15,960 Speaker 3: a fan of him. I like his repertoire. I think 458 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:19,320 Speaker 3: he looks nasty and I think it's probably for the 459 00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:24,280 Speaker 3: best that we keep him in the bullpen. Starting it's 460 00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:26,240 Speaker 3: a different mindset. That's the part of the thing with 461 00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:29,720 Speaker 3: Debtmers too. I've watched at least two one for sure, 462 00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:34,960 Speaker 3: but maybe two. I think he's so I don't know. 463 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:38,320 Speaker 3: The Deptmers came out of the bullpen last year attacked 464 00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:41,119 Speaker 3: and he went right after guys at least one of 465 00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:44,200 Speaker 3: the starts. It was in it's early in spring and 466 00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:47,880 Speaker 3: gatta YadA, but trying to mix the pitches and kind 467 00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:52,040 Speaker 3: of I don't know. Starting off with some curveballs. I 468 00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:54,600 Speaker 3: think he has possibly a new pitch, maybe a split 469 00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:59,119 Speaker 3: or something. It stinks having to speculate so much. I 470 00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:01,120 Speaker 3: wish I could say it greatly, but this is where 471 00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:08,000 Speaker 3: we're at. So I really am hoping Detmer's uh yeah, 472 00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:12,159 Speaker 3: takes off and does really well class and has huge stuff. 473 00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:16,040 Speaker 3: I mean that that if he can kind of I 474 00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:18,400 Speaker 3: think it's the base on balls that that he struggled with, 475 00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:22,800 Speaker 3: but his stuff is premium that looks really good as 476 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:26,640 Speaker 3: Oh and the last thought I had watching Kohanowitz, I'm 477 00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:30,520 Speaker 3: not seeing the defined big sinker the other day. It 478 00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:32,920 Speaker 3: looked like a little bit of two scene but more 479 00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:35,800 Speaker 3: of a straighter pitch and then kind of a cutter 480 00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:39,040 Speaker 3: off of that sometimes labeled as a slider. So it 481 00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:43,560 Speaker 3: looked like a pretty decently decent change, at least as 482 00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:48,280 Speaker 3: far as the repertoire goes. Probably by design, but part 483 00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:50,159 Speaker 3: of what I thought meant him really good when he 484 00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:51,919 Speaker 3: was doing well was that that sinker that got so 485 00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:54,320 Speaker 3: many ground balls and a lot of double plays. So 486 00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:58,000 Speaker 3: interested in that? And is Bremner pitching today? What's the 487 00:25:58,000 --> 00:25:58,399 Speaker 3: deal with that? 488 00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:02,000 Speaker 2: Where is he is? He is pitching at some point 489 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:05,200 Speaker 2: in today's game, So we'll see how that goes, all. 490 00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:06,359 Speaker 3: Right, and look forward to watching. 491 00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:11,200 Speaker 1: We are taping on Wednesday for listeners wondering, So Fletch 492 00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:13,360 Speaker 1: has now been around long enough where you're on your 493 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:16,560 Speaker 1: what six or seventh manager? I've lost track and how 494 00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:18,360 Speaker 1: many years? 495 00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:28,879 Speaker 2: Sosia Ostmas, Madden, Nevin wash Montgomery, Suzuki? 496 00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:35,160 Speaker 1: Well six, yeah, okay, So how Kurtzuzuki first year guy, 497 00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:40,160 Speaker 1: not very removed from his playing days, obviously, what has 498 00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:42,560 Speaker 1: he been like? What are you seeing in his first 499 00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:46,199 Speaker 1: spring of his manager? Is he putting his stamp whatever 500 00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:48,240 Speaker 1: that stamp is on this team? 501 00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:52,439 Speaker 2: Well, there's really only so much a manager can do 502 00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:54,800 Speaker 2: in spring training. But I will say one thing. The 503 00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:58,200 Speaker 2: reason that I'm talking to you guys at ten thirty 504 00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:00,440 Speaker 2: of the morning on a Wednesday, is because they are 505 00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:03,440 Speaker 2: having a show and go, which means that they don't 506 00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:06,399 Speaker 2: instead of showing up at like seven thirty to do 507 00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:09,680 Speaker 2: a bunch of work, they can just show up, you know, 508 00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:11,560 Speaker 2: whenever they need to show up to get ready for 509 00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:13,920 Speaker 2: the game, which is you know, could be nine thirty, 510 00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:16,439 Speaker 2: could be ten, could be ten thirty. And that's the 511 00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:19,040 Speaker 2: kind of thing that Mike Sosha would never do, and 512 00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:23,080 Speaker 2: it's I think the players appreciate that he, being pretty 513 00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:27,399 Speaker 2: not far removed from being a player, really understands the 514 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:30,520 Speaker 2: grind of spring training, and I think that the players 515 00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:33,800 Speaker 2: probably appreciate that. And it's a little bit of a break. 516 00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:37,040 Speaker 2: I'm sure Mark can talk to the grind of being 517 00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:39,119 Speaker 2: at the clubhouse every day at seven when you're used 518 00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:41,280 Speaker 2: to playing night games all year, and it's probably not 519 00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:43,919 Speaker 2: fun for the players. So getting this little break, I 520 00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:47,480 Speaker 2: think it's just a sign that the Kurtsuzuki is still 521 00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:51,280 Speaker 2: bonds with them. And you know, as for really what 522 00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:53,080 Speaker 2: kind of managery is I don't think we are going 523 00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:55,680 Speaker 2: to know until they start playing some real games. But 524 00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:58,720 Speaker 2: so far people seem to like him. He's good to 525 00:27:58,760 --> 00:27:59,840 Speaker 2: the media if we like him. 526 00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:04,200 Speaker 1: Is he running what you'd consider a tight camp more 527 00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:05,240 Speaker 1: of a relaxed camp. 528 00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:10,400 Speaker 2: It seems pretty relaxed to me, But I'm not out 529 00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:12,239 Speaker 2: there doing any drills, so I don't know. 530 00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:16,120 Speaker 1: You're not Sam Blum out there working on your infield 531 00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:22,520 Speaker 1: and hands with Ron Watt. Yeah. Is there any particular 532 00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:26,800 Speaker 1: part of the game that Kurt is putting an emphasis on? 533 00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:28,800 Speaker 1: More focus on. 534 00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:33,320 Speaker 2: I mean They always say all the same stuff every spring. 535 00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:34,879 Speaker 2: They say, this is the year we're going to focus 536 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:37,720 Speaker 2: on situational hitting. I think I've heard like twenty years 537 00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:39,640 Speaker 2: in a row that's like, we're going to get the 538 00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:42,800 Speaker 2: runners in from third with less than two outs. It's 539 00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:45,240 Speaker 2: funny that actually last year the Angels were one of 540 00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:47,400 Speaker 2: the better teams in baseball and getting runners in from 541 00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:50,240 Speaker 2: third with lessened two outs. But nobody knew that because 542 00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:52,000 Speaker 2: their problem was they couldn't get their runners third in 543 00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:54,280 Speaker 2: the first place, so they didn't score for them any runs. 544 00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:58,080 Speaker 2: So people like to pick out like these little situational 545 00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:00,000 Speaker 2: things that you're bad at, when actually you're bad at 546 00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:04,440 Speaker 2: the big things, which is you know, hitting. So but anyway, 547 00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:08,160 Speaker 2: that's a tangent. I don't I don't think they're working 548 00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:13,440 Speaker 2: on anything especially new. It's just the normal baseball stuff now. 549 00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:17,280 Speaker 1: Mike's Sosha, as Mark fondly remembers, was a master at 550 00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:21,360 Speaker 1: the spring training team meeting, bringing some levity, some humor 551 00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:24,240 Speaker 1: to almost every day. And I remember sitting outside that 552 00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:30,400 Speaker 1: clubhouse just hearing the walls just shake with laughter. Is 553 00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:34,479 Speaker 1: there anything Kurtzuzuki is doing to build chemistry? Maybe you know, 554 00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:37,080 Speaker 1: whether it's those kinds of meetings, those kinds of pranks 555 00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:39,960 Speaker 1: that seem to loosen everybody up over the years when 556 00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:42,520 Speaker 1: Social was here, anything you're seeing along those lines. 557 00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:48,360 Speaker 2: I think Tim Buss is in charge of chemistry and levity. 558 00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:52,240 Speaker 2: He came over with Jill Madden, and Madden called him 559 00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:56,200 Speaker 2: a VP and chargage stuff, and now he's continued to 560 00:29:56,360 --> 00:30:00,800 Speaker 2: escalate in his job duties, but he's still kind of 561 00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:04,840 Speaker 2: runs before they stretch. They all gather together in the outfield, 562 00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:06,800 Speaker 2: and there seems to be a lot of laughter coming 563 00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:09,240 Speaker 2: from that, and I think that's a Timbuss production. 564 00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:14,400 Speaker 1: Gotcha here. We'll close a show with the last question 565 00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:17,600 Speaker 1: about the regime change at the top of the organization. 566 00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:20,680 Speaker 1: As we talked about in our last show or too, 567 00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:25,320 Speaker 1: Molly Jolly is replacing John Carpino as team president. Molly 568 00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:29,840 Speaker 1: was a chief financial officer for many years. Has there 569 00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:33,000 Speaker 1: been any Molly Jolly sightings in the backfields, Jeff, as 570 00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:34,800 Speaker 1: she made herself any more visible. 571 00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:39,480 Speaker 2: No, she is not. But we also didn't really see 572 00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:42,120 Speaker 2: John Carpino in spring training either. So I think that 573 00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:46,360 Speaker 2: any fans who are expecting any sort of a change 574 00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:49,560 Speaker 2: in terms of the things that matter to them based 575 00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:52,680 Speaker 2: on this change, are going to be disappointed pretty much. 576 00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:56,520 Speaker 2: Artie Moreno was in charge of everything that matters, and 577 00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:59,000 Speaker 2: Artie Reno is still in charge of everything that matters. 578 00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:03,800 Speaker 2: So whoever the number two person is, it's not going 579 00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:05,760 Speaker 2: to really make much difference. It's still going to be 580 00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:10,120 Speaker 2: what already wants. And I think that there's not really 581 00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:11,720 Speaker 2: going to be any change in terms of the day 582 00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:16,960 Speaker 2: to day, either the baseball operation or the operation at large. 583 00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:20,920 Speaker 1: Mark, were you a big fan of the Show and Go? 584 00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:23,520 Speaker 1: I know we saw that in the regular season often 585 00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:26,280 Speaker 1: when teams were slumping, but don't see much of that 586 00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:27,080 Speaker 1: in spring training. 587 00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:31,080 Speaker 3: It's a good way to mix it up, I think 588 00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:36,840 Speaker 3: at times we usually did it once in spring I know, 589 00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:39,720 Speaker 3: social like to put the work in, there's no doubt 590 00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:42,080 Speaker 3: about it, and that's the mentality I carried through the 591 00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:45,160 Speaker 3: rest of my career, and quite honestly, when we do 592 00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:48,800 Speaker 3: it some other places that I played, I worried that 593 00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:52,640 Speaker 3: I wasn't always prepared because whether or not, you know, 594 00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:54,600 Speaker 3: you get accustomed to this is what you do, this 595 00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:56,960 Speaker 3: is the routine. You know. I put this amount of 596 00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:59,880 Speaker 3: work in and then on days where show up much later, 597 00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:04,680 Speaker 3: but some guys advocate for I know Joe Madden was 598 00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:07,880 Speaker 3: saying some things, and you know, I didn't feel they 599 00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:11,600 Speaker 3: need to press back on his opinions. But workload management, 600 00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:14,440 Speaker 3: it seems like he's not a fan of on field 601 00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:17,280 Speaker 3: batting practice. I think there are a lot of benefits 602 00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:19,880 Speaker 3: to it, and I know some managers get you know, 603 00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:22,880 Speaker 3: that's how they communicate with their players as walk in 604 00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:26,960 Speaker 3: the outfield. Yeah, Buck Showalter did it, Kirk Gibson did it, 605 00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:29,320 Speaker 3: many others. You know, they just make their rounds, as 606 00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:31,120 Speaker 3: they call it, and that's a good way just to 607 00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:35,000 Speaker 3: kind of get some FaceTime because otherwise in the locker room, 608 00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:37,080 Speaker 3: people are doing their thing and you don't want to 609 00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:43,560 Speaker 3: interrupt her or otherwise. Caitaan Dana is mono nucleosis is 610 00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:47,160 Speaker 3: he's kind of back and starting to mix it up. 611 00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:51,200 Speaker 2: He's been back and he's thrown some bullpens. He still 612 00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:54,800 Speaker 2: has a face any hitters yet. Obviously he's not going 613 00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:56,480 Speaker 2: to be ready for the start of the season, and 614 00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:59,200 Speaker 2: I think he was really a super strong candidate for 615 00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:03,480 Speaker 2: the Major League Rop anyway, So he's probably going to 616 00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:06,080 Speaker 2: get to be in the triple A rotation and maybe 617 00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:07,920 Speaker 2: just be a little bit behind the other starters when 618 00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:10,479 Speaker 2: the season starts, maybe not thrown as many innings as 619 00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:13,320 Speaker 2: those guys, but he'll have the chance, you know, when 620 00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:15,520 Speaker 2: when they need somebody, when the call comes in May 621 00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:19,120 Speaker 2: or June or whatever, that he should be one of 622 00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:20,080 Speaker 2: the guys on the list. 623 00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:24,160 Speaker 1: Any other health health concerns, Yeah, I was gonna mention 624 00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:26,480 Speaker 1: Josh Lowe. He hasn't played much at all this well. 625 00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:30,960 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Josh Lowe had an oblique and which is 626 00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:33,400 Speaker 2: the injury that he had for the last two years, 627 00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:35,600 Speaker 2: although he says this is his other oblique, so he's 628 00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:38,240 Speaker 2: not really that worried about it. He is supposed to 629 00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:40,760 Speaker 2: be getting in some minor league games this weekend and 630 00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:44,040 Speaker 2: just you can bat, you know, ten times a day 631 00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:45,800 Speaker 2: in those minor league games, and he's going to kind 632 00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:49,160 Speaker 2: of get caught up there, and you know, they seem 633 00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:51,480 Speaker 2: to be pretty confident that he'll be ready for opening Day. 634 00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:55,640 Speaker 1: All right, we'll close our show with that. Jeff Fletcher, 635 00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:59,040 Speaker 1: longtime beat writer for the Orange County Register, Thanks for 636 00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:03,320 Speaker 1: joining us today. Thank you for joining us. Please like 637 00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:05,960 Speaker 1: and subscribe, and we will see you next time on 638 00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:07,480 Speaker 1: Halo Territory. 639 00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:28,799 Speaker 5: M HM.