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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast am on iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: And welcome back to Coast to Coast George Nori with you.

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Speaker 2: Winter Lake is a Satanic philosopher with a background in

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Speaker 2: philosophy and quantum physics. He is a black magic practitioner

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Speaker 2: has published eleven books on the subject another one coming.

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Speaker 2: Winter has released twenty two tarot decks and is the

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Speaker 2: founder of the Sanctum in the Morning Star, which is

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Speaker 2: an international symposium of occultist dedicated to the search of

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Speaker 2: Luciferian being. Lake's singular premise within his Satanic philosophy is

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Speaker 2: that the Luciferian inalienable truth that all men are created evil. Interesting, Winter,

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Speaker 2: welcome back. Eight years have you been?

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Speaker 3: I know, eight years? George. You're amazing.

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Speaker 2: Where does the time fly?

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Speaker 3: I don't know. I'm amazed at eight years and I

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Speaker 3: feel good, and you look great and are doing well

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Speaker 3: and carrying on and your willpower is amazing.

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Speaker 2: Well, thank you, my friend. We've got a lot to

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Speaker 2: talk about tonight.

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Speaker 3: I I commend you, Yes, we do.

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Speaker 2: Now you're going to take so you're going to get

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Speaker 2: some calls from of our listeners who probably will be

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Speaker 2: upset because you are a Satanic practitioner. But I want

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Speaker 2: to take this time for you to explain what it

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Speaker 2: is why you do what you do, and we'll get

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Speaker 2: into that all the time. I mean, because knowing you,

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Speaker 2: you're a nice guy.

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Speaker 3: I am. I'm down to earth. I'm very much in

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Speaker 3: the Hindo path of releasing the eye, where I have

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Speaker 3: no ego, which is quite the opposite of a lot

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Speaker 3: of so called Satanic practitioners. They're very much pretentious, they

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Speaker 3: think they're better than everyone else, they can't socialize and

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Speaker 3: so on. I'm very much a businessman. I'm extremely real

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Speaker 3: and I keep it that way. My path is not

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Speaker 3: for everyone, and I don't go around wearing it on

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Speaker 3: my sleeve. I don't go around trying to bring others

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Speaker 3: into the path. It is a path that is found

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Speaker 3: for me. Yes, I believe that all men are created evil.

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Speaker 3: I think there are variations of this evil, though very

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Speaker 3: very hierarchical, whether it's lawful evil, those that are bound

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Speaker 3: by the law, or those that are barbaric, very much

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Speaker 3: like the isis. Groups or groups that seek out to

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Speaker 3: just do harm to others yea, because they can you know,

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Speaker 3: people that hurt animals, people that you know, like just barbarism.

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Speaker 3: That is something that is not I don't truck with.

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Speaker 3: And I think you know this well, we've discussed it,

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Speaker 3: but I just want to emphasize that for listeners to

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Speaker 3: realize that you're not dealing with a crazy person. I've

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Speaker 3: gone very intellectual. I'm a philosopher and a quantum physics individual,

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Speaker 3: and I look at things on multi level situations.

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Speaker 2: Let's talk about Lucifer. Who is Lucifer as far as

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Speaker 2: you're concerned.

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Speaker 3: Well, you know, a name is a name, and Lucifer

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Speaker 3: is energy, which is the dark matter, cosmic of our universe.

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Speaker 3: That is what I call it. You could call it god,

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Speaker 3: you could call it cosmeicism, you could call it anything.

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Speaker 3: But really it's for me. What taps me with it

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Speaker 3: is the innate evil of that darkness. When you touch

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Speaker 3: into it. It's not what I would feel, which is

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Speaker 3: the construct of good. There is very much an evil there,

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Speaker 3: a force of power of darkness. So I choose to

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Speaker 3: call it Lucifer. Now I don't worship it. I'm at

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Speaker 3: one with it, and other practitioners like myself are at one.

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Speaker 3: We don't bow down. But it's not really even carrying

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Speaker 3: on self worship. It's beyond that, and that is why

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Speaker 3: I started the Sanctum of the Morning Star to seek

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Speaker 3: out more Luciferian being. But it's very cosmic, George. Lucifer

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Speaker 3: for me is a sacred name, very much similar to Satan.

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Speaker 3: These names are sacred, you know. I don't go around

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Speaker 3: look at it as as like, oh, Satan is this

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Speaker 3: monster in the closet or under the bed or so on,

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Speaker 3: And actually it's not that at all. It's a vibration

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Speaker 3: that you can attune with and flow with. Immense amount

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Speaker 3: of amazing things can come from it.

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Speaker 2: If you go back and reread the Bible based on

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Speaker 2: what they say about Satan and Lucifer, it gives you

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Speaker 2: a different impression of how you believe. What are your

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Speaker 3: Yes, biblically, Lucifer is the evil spirit that came into

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Speaker 3: think that's it at all. You know, Biblically, these are

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Speaker 3: Bible is a very bloodthirsty doctrine. But I don't go

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Speaker 3: what has happened as a record. You know, a lot

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Speaker 3: of other Satanic supposed practitioners are the one they go

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Speaker 3: and they're stuck on that that way beyond all that

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Speaker 3: is like witchcraft is everywhere, I mean is everywhere. Practitioners

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Speaker 3: as well. But the Bible, it is, it is a

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Speaker 3: very interesting doctrine. It But the stating that Lucifer, you know,

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Speaker 3: on and so on, these are kind of just tales

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Speaker 3: doctrines from the Roman Empire. Because even the word Lucifer

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Speaker 2: And there are many now who are even beginning to

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Speaker 2: take the position that there isn't even a hell. And

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Speaker 2: if there's no Hell, there may be no Satan correct there.

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Speaker 3: You know, there may be a Hell dimension. There may

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Speaker 3: be the quantum finance, you know, infinitecy of what we're

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Speaker 3: dealing with. There may be, but I doubt it. I

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Speaker 3: think once the lights go out here, they come on

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Speaker 3: instantaneously somewhere else and in something else, there is no end.

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Speaker 3: If you're a remote viewer, you can really perceive this

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Speaker 3: as well. And I know I'm not talking in general

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Speaker 3: clerical or claire audience, you can perceive and see that

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Speaker 3: we are in an endless chain and a cycle of

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Speaker 3: reincarnation as well. There's a method to it, an order,

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Speaker 3: a Satanic order in my opinion.

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Speaker 2: Winterlake with us. His websites are linked up at coast

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Speaker 2: tocostam dot com. His books are all listed there, and

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Speaker 2: we're going to talk about his Sanctum of the Morning

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Speaker 2: Star a little bit later on tonight as well. What

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Speaker 2: does evil mean to you? What is your definition of

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Speaker 3: Evil? Is the nature of man? We are inherently evil.

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Speaker 3: evil is contained through the bounds of law. As a humanity,

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Speaker 3: we are not good. We want to be good and

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Speaker 3: we want to aspire to do good things. That doesn't

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Speaker 3: mean that we are going to break the bounds of law.

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Speaker 3: If you break the bounds of law, they are in

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Speaker 3: place to constrain the beast. You know, we're like a centaur.

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Speaker 3: We're part human and part beast, and we have this

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Speaker 3: beast side of us and we don't know why we

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Speaker 3: of the shackles that that brains. You know, you can't

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Speaker 3: and this is done because you know, we have law. Now,

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Speaker 3: if we remove the bounds of law, then we have

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Speaker 3: the beast unleashed. We have there is no constraints. We

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Speaker 3: I despise all that I'm into very much, an advanced

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Speaker 3: other civilizations have quickly gone, and we're on the precipice,

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Speaker 3: and especially within twenty thirty as we approach it, we

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Speaker 3: into a super science future of amazing astonishment where mankind

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Speaker 3: is free from the from the bounds of terrestrial thinking. However,

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Speaker 3: and once that gets a hold of us, we're going

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Speaker 3: to be Possibly it's a fifty to fifty t at

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Speaker 3: this point. But you know, we can either advance forward

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Speaker 2: Now, when you say evil is inherent in the humankind,

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Speaker 2: At what age do you think that happens.

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Speaker 3: Happens about six years old?

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Speaker 3: Huh's a lot of psychopathy. Who starts to reveal itself.

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Speaker 3: A lot of things psychologically occur. The child may harm

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Speaker 2: When you hear the word evil and people equated with

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Speaker 2: Satanic masses and things like that, does that upset you?

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Speaker 3: No? And that's a part of it. I mean, the

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Speaker 3: Satanic mass is carried on as an affirmation of our power.

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Speaker 3: And you know, I'm not an atheist in this aspect.

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Speaker 3: I think that there is a dark power, matter energy

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Speaker 3: that is lucifer, that is in the you know, a

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Speaker 3: side of the entirety of the universe, the cosmos. No,

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Speaker 3: it doesn't upset me at all. What upsets me is

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Speaker 3: that they use it in inane names. You have groups

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Speaker 3: in some hollow sense of atheism. You know, that kind

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Speaker 3: found that deception. To me, that's just a deception.

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Speaker 2: When you hear words like satanic sacrifices or it's a

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Speaker 2: Satanic murder, what does that mean to you?

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Speaker 3: It happens. I'm not gonna lie. A lot of other

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Speaker 3: this kind of thing doesn't go on. It absolutely goes on.

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Speaker 3: It's happening more and more.

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Speaker 2: Would you prefer that it not happen?

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Speaker 3: Well, I can't do anything about it. People are on

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Speaker 3: their course, their crash courses doing it. It happens a lot,

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Speaker 3: unfortunately in Britain and in Europe. You don't hear about it,

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Speaker 3: but sacrifice, for whatever reason, has been a part of

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Speaker 3: just feel that if you take a life, that you've

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Speaker 3: All of this, at this point in our society in

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Speaker 3: twenty twenty three is nonsense. You don't need to kill

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Speaker 3: don't need to hurt a girl, a human, a man,

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Speaker 3: It's all mind. It's all mental. It's like an hr

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Speaker 3: Giger painting. It's all in a very mental space. And

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Speaker 3: these other things are just very again in that barbaric space,

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Speaker 3: Now it sounded, it sounds like a role playing game,

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Speaker 3: You know, I am an occultist. I am anything I

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Speaker 3: want to be. George, I mean, I am a philosopheric,

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Speaker 3: I am a Satanist. I'm a Luciferian. You know that,

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Speaker 3: I'm just not limited. I'm just not others choose to

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Speaker 2: Well, when you say you're a satanist, winter, when you

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Speaker 2: say I'm a Satanist, I'm a Luciferian, what exactly does

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Speaker 2: that mean to somebody?

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Speaker 3: Well, to somebody else, it might mean this person is crazy,

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Speaker 3: or he has no way to socialize, or he is

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Speaker 3: waking up to what I'm talking about, and several other

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Speaker 3: But what it means to me is that, you know,

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Speaker 3: The they're the energy, the synergy of the actual physical

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Speaker 3: space itself is made up of dark matter, and it

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Speaker 3: with it and fly with it and be one with it. Amazing.

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Speaker 2: Is the religion of we Can the same as Witchcraft.

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Speaker 3: No, there are two different things. Witchcraft is interesting to

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Speaker 3: me because they do follow into very much a ritualistic space,

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Speaker 3: I know, that's pretty pretty. I'm not trying to slam them.

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Speaker 3: I have nothing against other people, and you know, per se,

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Speaker 3: I mean, I have issues with Islam, but you know,

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Speaker 3: not into their Islamics thing. You know, it's not good.

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Speaker 3: They kill you. They killed a little girl who had

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Speaker 3: they said we're wicking, which is more like they believe

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Speaker 3: you know, neither here nor there they're they're not bad.

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Speaker 3: Whatever they believe, there's still nowhere near trying to infringe

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Speaker 3: on other people's lives. You know, Crowley said do what

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Speaker 3: me personally, have no interest in like infringing on someone

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Speaker 3: want to tell people what to do. I don't want

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Speaker 3: you know. I just want to go forth and be

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Speaker 3: to what we spoke about years ago, the Satanic Singularity.

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