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Speaker 1: What's up, everybody? Welcome to move the sticks DJ, Bucky

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Speaker 1: back with you. Buck. How you doing man? And I'm good.

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Speaker 1: I'm good today. It's funny. Product turned on the record.

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Speaker 1: We're talking about what's coming up, and man, I look up.

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Speaker 1: Buck whna talk about what's going on with a premier

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Speaker 1: I never thought that it would be like this, Like

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Speaker 1: I dj in a year is it's completely flipped. It's

430
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Speaker 1: changed like crazy, it's crazy. It's I don't know, quite honestly,

431
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Speaker 1: I don't know. I like the fact that they're getting paid.

432
00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:49,600
Speaker 1: I like the fact that they're getting something back for

433
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Speaker 1: the value that they bring. I don't know if in

434
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Speaker 1: the long run, if that's if this is a good

435
00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:55,159
Speaker 1: thing or a bad thing. I don't think any of

436
00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:57,320
Speaker 1: us know. I think people are passionate about it, but

437
00:20:57,359 --> 00:20:59,280
Speaker 1: it's yet to be seen. Let's look back ten years

438
00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:00,800
Speaker 1: from now, we might go, oh my gosh, this all

439
00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:04,640
Speaker 1: worked out great. Everybody got what they wanted. It's fair, equitable.

440
00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:06,600
Speaker 1: We might look back at ten years ago, oh my gosh,

441
00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:08,920
Speaker 1: that ruined college football. Like, I don't know, I don't

442
00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:11,200
Speaker 1: think anybody knows. Yeah, and it may be one of

443
00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:13,280
Speaker 1: those things, and maybe one of those things that could

444
00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:15,800
Speaker 1: have been easily fixed before we got to this point.

445
00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:19,040
Speaker 1: You know, everyone got like a little fair sliver of

446
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Speaker 1: the pie. But now we're here, and look, man, the

447
00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:25,520
Speaker 1: consequences are. I mean, they don't have major ramifications on

448
00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:27,400
Speaker 1: how the game looks. I mean, even with the bowl

449
00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:29,639
Speaker 1: games and stuff like that. I mean, we have a

450
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Speaker 1: million bowl games, but there's not a lot of excitement

451
00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:33,840
Speaker 1: over some of the guys that play, some of them

452
00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:35,919
Speaker 1: don't and what that looks like. And I think what

453
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Speaker 1: you're going to end up getting. I think you have

454
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Speaker 1: a split. I think college football is gonna split where

455
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Speaker 1: you have the guys who want to play the game,

456
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Speaker 1: as we're talking about with the n I L s

457
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Speaker 1: and the cap and money and all that making changes,

458
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Speaker 1: and then I think you have a lesser group of

459
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Speaker 1: schools that kind of take the model um at the

460
00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:55,600
Speaker 1: lower levels where they kind of goes back to kind

461
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Speaker 1: of amateurism and and they have all the other stuff.

462
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Speaker 1: They kind of pay that way. Because I know, if

463
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Speaker 1: it can continue to go the way that it is

464
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Speaker 1: currently constructed and make it happen, I don't know if

465
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Speaker 1: that I don't know if that's a long term sustain

466
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Speaker 1: out for everybody that not everybody can play that game.

467
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Speaker 1: I know that not everybody can play that game. UM,

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Speaker 1: all right, we're gonna preview one of the biggest games,

469
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Speaker 1: actually the biggest game of the weekend right after this,

470
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Speaker 1: all right, buck Sunday night. I'll be out there. Chargers Raiders.

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Speaker 1: It's a winning in. Um. You know that rivalry up close.

472
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Speaker 1: I mean, what what what do you expect, um from

473
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Speaker 1: the atmosphere of this game? And then what do you

474
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Speaker 1: expect from the game itself? Here I'll tell you, UM,

475
00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:36,960
Speaker 1: going in in terms of the atmosphere and stuff, I

476
00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:39,720
Speaker 1: would expect it to be kind of rocks. I would

477
00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:42,600
Speaker 1: expect the Raider nation to be out in full effect.

478
00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:44,119
Speaker 1: But I'm gonna say this, and I don't make like

479
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Speaker 1: of this when I see it. This is the biggest

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Speaker 1: game of Derek Carr's career. This is the biggest game

481
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Speaker 1: of his career. In my estimation, Derek Carr um has

482
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Speaker 1: just two winning seasons in his career. Derek Carr has

483
00:22:57,200 --> 00:22:59,720
Speaker 1: one playoff birth secured in his career, but he didn't

484
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Speaker 1: play in that playoff game. Derek Carr has one year

485
00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:06,440
Speaker 1: remaining on his deal. If Derek Carr wants to be

486
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Speaker 1: considered an elite player, elite players have to go to

487
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Speaker 1: the playoffs. If Derry Carr wants to make it into

488
00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:16,040
Speaker 1: the forty million dollar club, he has to have enough

489
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Speaker 1: pelts on the wall to justify being included. In the

490
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Speaker 1: conversation with Pat Mahomes, Josh Allen, uh Dak Prescott, and

491
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Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson. So for me, the only way that you

492
00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:30,520
Speaker 1: can do that you have to win a MUSTI game,

493
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Speaker 1: a marquee game against a superstar on the other side,

494
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Speaker 1: and Justin Herbert, this is a game where he will

495
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Speaker 1: be measured not only in team performance but the eyeball test.

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Speaker 1: How does Derek Carr look in comparison to Justin Herbert?

497
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Speaker 1: Because we can talk about Justin Herbert and I'm gonna

498
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Speaker 1: tell you, man, the coach, Brandon Stanley's the all Star.

499
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Speaker 1: I heard him last night on Series NFL Radio talking

500
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Speaker 1: to Bill Poland and stuff, and he gets it on

501
00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:57,679
Speaker 1: like some guys get it like. Look, you can take

502
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Speaker 1: him to task for like his aggressiveness and maybe the

503
00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:03,600
Speaker 1: way that he utilized analytics, but in terms of being

504
00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:07,960
Speaker 1: able to articulate the things about a quarterback, m out standing,

505
00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:10,600
Speaker 1: out standing. I was like blown away by just listening

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Speaker 1: to him. So yeah, So for Derek Carr, you're going

507
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Speaker 1: shoot out of Okay Corral against Justin Herbert, and you

508
00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:20,360
Speaker 1: better find a way to win it. If not all

509
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Speaker 1: of that stuff that we talked about, all the good favor,

510
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Speaker 1: all that stuff that he's done, the good will that

511
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Speaker 1: he's curried this year in terms of getting the team,

512
00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:29,000
Speaker 1: it all goes out the window because you don't have

513
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Speaker 1: anything to show for. Yeah, and it looks like they're

514
00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:35,040
Speaker 1: gonna get Darren Waller back. Um. When I watched the

515
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Speaker 1: video getting ready for this one, buck, I'll tell you

516
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Speaker 1: what I know. The numbers have been have been great

517
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Speaker 1: for him. I got the numbers here. Let me pull

518
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Speaker 1: him up real quick. Um. But I still feel like

519
00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:46,000
Speaker 1: maybe this dude gets kind of lost in the shuffle,

520
00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:51,080
Speaker 1: um when you're talking about really really great young players. So, uh,

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Speaker 1: Hunter Redfros got ninety nine catches for a thousand, twenty

522
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Speaker 1: five yards and seven touchdowns, And I feel like he's

523
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Speaker 1: kind of done it quietly, and that you know, obviously,

524
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Speaker 1: you know, you look at the season that Cooper Cups

525
00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:04,760
Speaker 1: had and and Jamaar Chase. That's kind of taking up

526
00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:07,040
Speaker 1: all the oxygen at the receiver position. A J. Brown

527
00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:09,960
Speaker 1: comes back when you watch this dude weekend and week out.

528
00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:12,479
Speaker 1: I don't know if there's a better route runner right

529
00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:14,960
Speaker 1: now in the league in terms of creating separation, like

530
00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:18,919
Speaker 1: he's he's getting freaking four yards of separation underneath. Like

531
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Speaker 1: it's ridiculous how good he is underneath. And I feel

532
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Speaker 1: like it's just been the last six or so games

533
00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:26,359
Speaker 1: where he just kind of has come on like gamebusters. Um,

534
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Speaker 1: He's found a way to get open. He has all

535
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Speaker 1: the tricks in the book. And I found this out

536
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Speaker 1: about Hunter Renfrew. Evidently he and fred but lt Nikoff

537
00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:42,000
Speaker 1: have a conversation or two each week. Um. For anyone

538
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Speaker 1: who doesn't know, Freddy B was a long time NFL

539
00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:47,879
Speaker 1: receiver for the Raiders, but then he was really a

540
00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:50,399
Speaker 1: great wide receiver coach. He's a wide receiver coach with

541
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Speaker 1: the Raiders when I was there, I was on defense then.

542
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Speaker 1: But Freddy B is a great developer and evidently, man

543
00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:58,880
Speaker 1: he has been getting some sauce and some nuances from

544
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Speaker 1: Freddy that is certainly up him take his game up,

545
00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:04,399
Speaker 1: and not because let's be honest, DJ, Hunter Renfro was

546
00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:07,440
Speaker 1: a great story at Clemson. I don't know if any

547
00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:11,040
Speaker 1: of us expected him to be in the impact fifth. Yeah,

548
00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:14,640
Speaker 1: an impactful player for the Raiders. Well he I mean, look,

549
00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:16,520
Speaker 1: he's feeling the role right now of a number one,

550
00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:19,280
Speaker 1: even though he doesn't. I would say, have the traditional

551
00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:22,320
Speaker 1: qualities of a hunter catches in a thousand yards man,

552
00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:27,440
Speaker 1: like that's he's wearing. He's wearing people out, and so yeah,

553
00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:30,239
Speaker 1: it's a great story. And I think for the Chargers, man,

554
00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:32,280
Speaker 1: I think you gotta cut off the faucet right away.

555
00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:33,879
Speaker 1: Darren Wallace coming back from an angel. You need to

556
00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:36,320
Speaker 1: be mindful of him. But I think in these games,

557
00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:38,760
Speaker 1: hey man, you gotta cut off the facetry and don't

558
00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:41,399
Speaker 1: Hey Derek, are you gonna to find somebody? Somebody else,

559
00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:46,040
Speaker 1: Za Jones, Brian Evans, Deshan Jackson, somebody else is gonna

560
00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:49,000
Speaker 1: have to beat us in those key moments. It can't

561
00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:52,920
Speaker 1: be Hunter Renfro. Yeah, No, it's a there's so many

562
00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:55,159
Speaker 1: intriguing matchups in this game. Like I looked from the

563
00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:58,760
Speaker 1: from the Chargers standpoint, I mean, Joey Bosa, you know,

564
00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:01,439
Speaker 1: i'd say graduated al Leatherwood from tackle to guard the

565
00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:03,760
Speaker 1: last time they played, and now he's gonna get a

566
00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:07,560
Speaker 1: chance to go up against Brandon Parker. Um who's he

567
00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:09,760
Speaker 1: was in the class was a third round pick. But

568
00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:12,199
Speaker 1: that's that's a matchup that should favor the Chargers. You

569
00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:15,439
Speaker 1: mentioned where we were talking about Waller, Waller and Derwin

570
00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:17,720
Speaker 1: James is as good as it gets. Like, that's that's

571
00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:19,760
Speaker 1: that's great on great, That's gonna be a fun one

572
00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:22,480
Speaker 1: to watch. You kind of call that a draw, you know,

573
00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:24,080
Speaker 1: I kind of go back and forth and find this

574
00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:26,879
Speaker 1: matchup for that matchup, you know, the right tackle position

575
00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:28,840
Speaker 1: with Storm Norton, he's gonna have to deal with Max

576
00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:32,800
Speaker 1: Crosby and gok Way. You think, okay, that's advantaged Raiders. Um,

577
00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:35,359
Speaker 1: you know, the Slater versus those guys is gonna be

578
00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:37,359
Speaker 1: a great It's gonna be a great matchups later a

579
00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:39,960
Speaker 1: good job against him the first time around. Um, you know, oh,

580
00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:43,040
Speaker 1: Austin Ekeler working against these linebackers, that should be an

581
00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:45,680
Speaker 1: advantage for the Chargers there. But I mean, I feel

582
00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:46,879
Speaker 1: like you can kind of go back and forth and

583
00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:48,239
Speaker 1: then you know what we you know where we end

584
00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:52,520
Speaker 1: up exactly where you started, Derek Carr and Justin Herbert,

585
00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:55,439
Speaker 1: it's gonna decide this football game. It's gonna it's gonna decide.

586
00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:57,440
Speaker 1: And it's funny in listening to say we talk about

587
00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:00,760
Speaker 1: the game, he said, look, just Radley is gonna put

588
00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:03,679
Speaker 1: a lid on top of the coverage. And the difference

589
00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:06,160
Speaker 1: in the first game was Derek Carr wore them out

590
00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:09,320
Speaker 1: with the checkdowns and underneath stuff and they just connected

591
00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:11,879
Speaker 1: the dots and moved the ball down the field. The

592
00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:14,080
Speaker 1: same thing is gonna happen because Brandon said they also

593
00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:16,720
Speaker 1: put the top he was a lid over the coverage.

594
00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:18,520
Speaker 1: You're not gonna get the deep balls and the rates

595
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:20,760
Speaker 1: typically don't operate like that. So then it's gonna be

596
00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:24,119
Speaker 1: how many completions can you string together? And can you

597
00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:26,119
Speaker 1: string them together enough that now when you get in

598
00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:29,440
Speaker 1: the red zone when it becomes a tighter field, This

599
00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:31,760
Speaker 1: is where I think armed talent and stuff comes in

600
00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:34,600
Speaker 1: when the windows are tighter and you gotta fit it

601
00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:37,920
Speaker 1: in on those gotta have it moments. Can Derek Carr

602
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:41,160
Speaker 1: make those throws like And it's weird that I'm saying

603
00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:44,280
Speaker 1: a second year pro versus a veteran, but I'm saying,

604
00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:46,360
Speaker 1: I mean, I have those same issues about the second

605
00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:49,320
Speaker 1: year with Derek Carr. I need to see it because

606
00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:52,240
Speaker 1: DJ this goes all the way back to when I

607
00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:56,320
Speaker 1: saw him and that with Las Vegas ball Fresno State versus.

608
00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:59,240
Speaker 1: I think it was was USC they played in that game.

609
00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:03,440
Speaker 1: I was there having to make he now, you gotta

610
00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:05,880
Speaker 1: make plays, and we talked about it being a quarterback

611
00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:11,880
Speaker 1: driven league. Great quarterbacks separate themselves in these kind of games.

612
00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:13,720
Speaker 1: And so for me, I'll be sitting on the couch

613
00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:17,040
Speaker 1: with my popcorn ready to go see what happens. You

614
00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:19,080
Speaker 1: know what, I almost forgot about this to go back

615
00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:23,920
Speaker 1: and revisit Chargers beat him feen all right. The Raider's

616
00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:26,840
Speaker 1: offense really didn't do anything. They had fifty one yards

617
00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:29,520
Speaker 1: in one first down in their first seven possessions in

618
00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:32,800
Speaker 1: the first half, fifty one yards at halftime. Um, So

619
00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:34,320
Speaker 1: they came back, made a little bit of a game

620
00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:38,080
Speaker 1: and chargesteen. This is Joey Bosa after the game talking

621
00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:40,920
Speaker 1: about the Raiders offense. We knew once we hit him

622
00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:43,400
Speaker 1: a few times, he really gets shook. And you saw

623
00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:46,120
Speaker 1: on Christian Covington's sack he was pretty much curling into

624
00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:48,600
Speaker 1: a ball before we even got back there. Great dude,

625
00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:50,719
Speaker 1: great player. But we know once you get pressure on him,

626
00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:54,960
Speaker 1: he kind of shuts down. Say the quiet part out loud,

627
00:29:56,240 --> 00:30:02,200
Speaker 1: say the pot out loud. Hey, but d ja, that's

628
00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:05,360
Speaker 1: how that's how it is. Like but I mean that's

629
00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:07,560
Speaker 1: what again. I used that to say, like this is again,

630
00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:11,080
Speaker 1: like this is all building up to this is this

631
00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:13,200
Speaker 1: is go time for Derek Carr, Like this is this

632
00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:15,040
Speaker 1: is it? It's this is it or it's not it,

633
00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:17,120
Speaker 1: Like this is the moment he's gotta he's got to

634
00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:19,400
Speaker 1: meet the moment. I think the best thing that is

635
00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:21,440
Speaker 1: ever one of the best things that's ever come out

636
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:24,120
Speaker 1: of the podcast is the analogy that we talked about

637
00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:29,600
Speaker 1: with quarterbacks, trucks and trailers and the deciding factor in

638
00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:32,160
Speaker 1: terms of who's whomming, what's what And when you look

639
00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:35,080
Speaker 1: at the playoff field, you ain't gonna be a whole

640
00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:37,880
Speaker 1: lot of trailers in the playoff field. No, Like we

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Speaker 1: can talk about, oh, you got a good quarterback, hih,

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Speaker 1: this got is a quarterback. At the end of the day,

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Speaker 1: either you have a dude or you're looking forward. Dude,

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Speaker 1: that's it. And the dude quality that we talked about

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Speaker 1: is hey, man, you think Joey Bosa will ever say

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Speaker 1: that about Aaron Rodgers type. You ever heard him say

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Speaker 1: that about a Pat Mahomes type someone in there like

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Speaker 1: you cannot show the opponent that you have cracks if

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Speaker 1: you have cracks in the foundation, to me, that's telling.

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Speaker 1: And so for Derek Carter rewrite that narrative, he's going

651
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:16,320
Speaker 1: to have to deliver and know when you can't excuse

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Speaker 1: your way out of it, you can't talk your way

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Speaker 1: out of it. At the end of the day, you

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Speaker 1: can be judged on how you play. And he has

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Speaker 1: to play. And I know there's this debate about quarterback

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Speaker 1: wins and that stuff. It doesn't matter. You have to

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Speaker 1: just know mm hm. Great quarterbacks win games period. You

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Speaker 1: cannot be a great quarterback. If you don't win, you

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Speaker 1: can't go. Don't no doubt. I'm gonna go through a

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Speaker 1: little blink scouting exercise here real quick, because I want

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Speaker 1: you to just first thing that comes to your mind. Okay, um,

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Speaker 1: let's play. Let's play trucks or trailers you ready go

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Speaker 1: for for the playoff teams? All right, let's start. Let's

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Speaker 1: start in the a f C the number one seeds

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Speaker 1: of Tennessee Titans. Ryan Tannehill, he's a trailer man trailer,

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Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes truck, Joe Burrow truck, Josh Allen truck truck, Patriots,

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Speaker 1: Mac Jones trailer, trailer um, then uh Colts, Carson Wentz

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Speaker 1: trailer um. Then the last spot with the Chargers in

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Speaker 1: the Raiders. Justin Herbert is a truck and Derek Carr

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Speaker 1: trailer is a trailer. I mean, that's that's what it is.

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Speaker 1: Look high end trailer, high end trailer, trailed, nicest fancy,

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Speaker 1: got all the things, but it's still the trailer, still

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Speaker 1: behind the truck. Is it. It's different. And we can

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Speaker 1: dress this up and we can talk about it and

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Speaker 1: all that, and people can talk themselves into like, hey,

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Speaker 1: you know, I think cousins. I think there's an at

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Speaker 1: the end of the day, you know, when you're watching something,

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Speaker 1: I'm saying, these are just quick. These are quick when

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Speaker 1: you watch the game, you know, and it's the deciding

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00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:59,680
Speaker 1: factor and you can win with the trailer, but everything

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00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:02,560
Speaker 1: has to be right, and the margin for air is

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Speaker 1: so much smaller when you have a trailer as opposed

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Speaker 1: to a truck. All Right, you're gonna go NFC real quick,

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Speaker 1: all right, Aaron Rodgers. Look, he's a truck to Tom

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Speaker 1: Brady is a truck. Okay, here's the interesting one. The Rams,

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Speaker 1: Uh Stafford truck or trailer. I think he's a truck.

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Speaker 1: I think sometimes that truck can he can run the

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Speaker 1: truck off the road. But whether they win or they hes.

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Speaker 1: You ever seen the El Camino, like way back in

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Speaker 1: the seventy half half half truck. What was the name

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00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:38,840
Speaker 1: of that show? My dad used to love that show.

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00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:42,360
Speaker 1: Uh with James Garner? What was the Rockford Files? I

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00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:46,760
Speaker 1: think I think Rockford Files he drove one of those things.

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Speaker 1: He's a hybrid because there are times even in the

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Speaker 1: last game, the last game against the Rams, he turned

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Speaker 1: it over and you're like, oh, it's the trailer of

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00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:55,640
Speaker 1: the team has to pull him. But then the last

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Speaker 1: half he's a truck. He's a player, But I like,

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Speaker 1: I feel like he's a I feel like he's a

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Speaker 1: truck because truck. Whether whether whether they win or lose,

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Speaker 1: I feel like he's driving it like he's a victory

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00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:10,840
Speaker 1: or you know, yeah, Like I think it's fair to

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00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:12,479
Speaker 1: say he's a truck. He's a truck. He's a truck,

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Speaker 1: but he needs a new he needs a new navigation

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Speaker 1: system because sometimes he doesn't take us in the right direction,

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Speaker 1: but he's taking us. You know what I'm saying. Yeah, Tampa,

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Speaker 1: Tom Brady Truck. Yeah, Dak Prescott man the Cowboys, He's

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Speaker 1: a truck. But man, sometimes he has these moments. I'm like,

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Speaker 1: I think he's a truck. He's the same thing. He's

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Speaker 1: a truck with the little GPS we need. Then we

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Speaker 1: go to Arizona, Kyler Murray Truck, Truck um Philadelphia. Jalen

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Speaker 1: Hurts as a trailer at this point in time, he

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Speaker 1: is he is a trailer. And it's weird though, because

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Speaker 1: they've hit the truck to the trailer in terms of

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Speaker 1: how they play, but he's not quite that. Like. I

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Speaker 1: think the farrest comparison I can say is that Jalen

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Speaker 1: Hurts reminds me a lot of Dak Prescott in that

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00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:00,239
Speaker 1: vein and maybe you'll advanced he gets better. I think

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Speaker 1: his best qualities are the sauce. Did he get the

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Speaker 1: leadership in the presence and the top And I felt

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Speaker 1: like that was Dak Prescott's best qualities early in his career.

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Speaker 1: And I think he improved, was he of Jalen improves?

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Speaker 1: But man, it's different and sts Saints get Saints, get

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Speaker 1: a trailer, Okay, get the Niners. Yeah yeah, yeah the Niners. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I missed the Niners. Jimmy g I think it's a trailer.

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Speaker 1: It's a trailer. So but I mean, if you're looking

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00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:34,600
Speaker 1: at it, the majority, it's you know, trucks. Once you

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Speaker 1: get into the postseason, think, I think the bigger thing

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Speaker 1: would be DC how many trucks are outside the tournament?

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Speaker 1: You want to do that, right, I'll go out to

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Speaker 1: that like are they yeah? Because you I would say

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Speaker 1: Lamar went healthy as a truck? Um, I would say

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Speaker 1: no with Pittsburgh, No, with Miami, No with Cleveland, No

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Speaker 1: with Denver, No, what Jets. I mean, Deshaun Watson's not playing,

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Speaker 1: so that doesn't count. So really only one in the

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Speaker 1: a f C. That's not there's only one truck not

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Speaker 1: in the playoffs in the a f C. That's yeah. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And he's been hurt and he's missed time and the

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00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:09,800
Speaker 1: whole team has been decimated. You think if they're a remote,

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Speaker 1: if he's healthier, the team is healthy their playoffs, right,

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Speaker 1: So then we when we go to the Russell Wilson.

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00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:18,680
Speaker 1: So Wilson is a truck. Um, I don't I mean

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Speaker 1: Matt Ryan, I think um Kirk Cousins. Right, So look no,

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00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:29,920
Speaker 1: not no Chicago, no Carolina, no Giants, no lines. Now,

745
00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:32,160
Speaker 1: so there's two. There's only two trucks that didn't make

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Speaker 1: the playoffs. The bigger point is if you don't have

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Speaker 1: a truck, you cannot go far. And when we're doing

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Speaker 1: this evaluation that we're about to do, when we talk

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Speaker 1: about these college quarterbacks and all that, it has to

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Speaker 1: come down to those terms we can talk about like, hey, truck, trailer,

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00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:50,920
Speaker 1: all that. Can they do it? But DJ, that's what

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Speaker 1: it is. You are not going to consistently vie for

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Speaker 1: the title with a trailer. You have to have a truck.

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Speaker 1: It's a shorter window. Yeah, no, it's a good That

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00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:04,600
Speaker 1: was a good exercise. Man, that was fun. Um all right?

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Speaker 1: Anything you want to add, hare, Buck? Actually, I think

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00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:09,680
Speaker 1: we need to get to another ad here, so enjoy this,

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00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:15,839
Speaker 1: all right, Buck? I almost forgot that last ad. Had

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Speaker 1: to make sure we snuck that one in there. We

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Speaker 1: don't want to get in trouble with the bosses here.

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Speaker 1: Anything else you want to add before we before we

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Speaker 1: jump out of here. No it We're good. Yeah, now

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00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:27,160
Speaker 1: that was fun. Um, all right, appreciate you guys hanging

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Speaker 1: with us. Um. We will be back with a playoff game.

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Speaker 1: I believe with Amazon, we're gonna do scouts feed for

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Speaker 1: a wild card game. Don't know which game it is.

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00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:37,839
Speaker 1: We'll find out. We'll let you know on Monday. We'll

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Speaker 1: get a chance to recap what happened in this final

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Speaker 1: week of the regular season. UM. I know we don't

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Speaker 1: call it what we used to call it, but change

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Speaker 1: Monday is that we call like looking ahead Monday. What's

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Speaker 1: a what's a flowery way to say? People will lose

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Speaker 1: their jobs. There's no nice way to do it, but

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Speaker 1: they'll be Uh, there'll be some moves made on Monday.

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Speaker 1: We'll have a chance to react and discuss those as well. Um,

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00:37:57,080 --> 00:37:58,760
Speaker 1: all right, that's gonna do it for us. He's Bucky

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Speaker 1: Brooks and Danie Jeremia thinks the be always the best

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Speaker 1: in the business. We'll catch you next time. Right here,

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Speaker 1: I move the sticks