Speaker 1: This life was all I ever wanted. I'm not leaving,
Speaker 1: not yet. I was hoping you'll say that you gotta
Speaker 1: hit the streets make some money, maybe like us let's destroyed.
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Speaker 1: dot com, my brother Jack back. All the Smoke just
Speaker 1: getting started, Baby, just getting started. Welcome back to a
Speaker 1: special quarantine edition of All the Smoke. That's gonna be.
Speaker 1: That's gonna be the realist one. I ain't even cut
Speaker 1: your brothers, but that's gonna be realist episode. Man. No,
Speaker 1: I mean I'm gonna I've been trying to I've been
Speaker 1: trying to get me and him, been working behind the scenes.
Speaker 1: We got some dope ship coming together. Man, his his
Speaker 1: story has got to be told. Bay Area Legend Imagine ship.
Speaker 1: J R. Wryder Man, Welcome to the show. Respected Love,
Speaker 1: sat respective Love, Matt Love. Appreciate you. Know that, we
Speaker 1: appreciate you. We appreciate you. You know everybody know it. Man.
Speaker 1: Feeling y'all buzzs. Man, I'll let y'all thank you man,
Speaker 1: coming from you because you didn't get some ship. Baby.
Speaker 1: But anyway, man, how are you and how are you
Speaker 1: in the family holding up in these crazy times right now. Honestly,
Speaker 1: you know, beer hair grown or whatever. You know, I've
Speaker 1: been locked down. You know, we've been trying to be
Speaker 1: locked down. You know, I'll put it in the sky
Speaker 1: and sometimes that's necessary. Essensils are needed. But you know, honestly,
Speaker 1: need to be real serious. You don't be a safe
Speaker 1: man staying out the way, because it's real. It's fattened,
Speaker 1: as real as contagious cure for it right now, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, they're working. You know, I'm a
Speaker 1: old school roster, that hard, you know, boiled while I
Speaker 1: put the orange peels and everybody, you know, drink some
Speaker 1: hot tea, you know, just trying to stay off the
Speaker 1: way as hard. You know, take my little man to
Speaker 1: go hoop at the court, trying to just put some
Speaker 1: shots up, you know, when nobody there. But just stay
Speaker 1: off the way, man. You know, it's got a fine
Speaker 1: things to do at the house. Man, but I wish
Speaker 1: everybody Guy's been checking and guy's love, he says out there,
Speaker 1: because it's real. You gotta stay in the house. And man,
Speaker 1: if nobody never sat down before, and you know, you
Speaker 1: just you just sit down, It'll be all right, you know,
Speaker 1: you ain't missing nothing because no one else could do
Speaker 1: that anyway. You ain't missing nothing. You mentioned your son,
Speaker 1: so our son's got a chance to battle. Hey you
Speaker 1: if people don't know you, coach, you have a whole
Speaker 1: program out in Arizona, right, what's the name of the program? Riders.
Speaker 1: We got a chance, So we got a chance to play.
Speaker 1: We played at one time it hit like a deep
Speaker 1: ass three at the buzzer to beat him. But we're
Speaker 1: one of so we're we're we're one on the West Coast.
Speaker 1: I don't want to say your team is like two
Speaker 1: or three, right, they gotta really challenge we go to
Speaker 1: two to four. We're in the top five. Say in
Speaker 1: the top five, I think me too. Right now, though,
Speaker 1: I want to say, you guys are right underneath us,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, on the whole, in the
Speaker 1: whole West coast. Man. So that says a lot of
Speaker 1: It was great to you know, catch up and see
Speaker 1: you there because that's where we kind of reconnected. And
Speaker 1: after that, you know, we locked back in and sat
Speaker 1: down and you know, fellowshift, and now we've got some
Speaker 1: business we're working on together. Man. So I appreciate that. Man,
Speaker 1: I appree to share the shoot. Bro, we locked in immediately,
Speaker 1: but it is we we uh were connected there, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. Came to your spy, open your
Speaker 1: doors opportunity. We chopped up, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: share war stories, you know what I mean, and future stories.
Speaker 1: So we locked it in. We're gonna do some business.
Speaker 1: I got a story to tell. We got own business
Speaker 1: to do. But man, you're a real one. So I
Speaker 1: always appreciate you and raced our conversations and the opportunities
Speaker 1: that we may have and moving forward. That definitely moving together. Man.
Speaker 1: You know, your little dude, though they're hard, they're nice.
Speaker 1: You've got a nice team and do those don't know, Matt,
Speaker 1: that's his thing. His team is number one out there, right.
Speaker 1: He takes pride in his little boys. You know, he's
Speaker 1: quiet about I don't know, he's quiet about it. Right.
Speaker 1: So we're going there. We have we all go there.
Speaker 1: It's hard coaching our kids too, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: But I did you run? You know, I solute you,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. My son is a year
Speaker 1: younger than everybody, so for him to kind of just
Speaker 1: be hanging with the big boys, and I'm real proud
Speaker 1: of him though you got a game to game. It's
Speaker 1: dope being able to see that next generation. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's what we would see Kobe at two. We wouldn't
Speaker 1: see Kobe, you know, he would be coaching g we'd
Speaker 1: be coaching our boys. You see Robert Ory up there.
Speaker 1: You see a lot of guys up there coaching their kids,
Speaker 1: and I think it's beautiful, man, man Z bo j Bridge.
Speaker 1: I was seeing a lot of dudes up there, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. And yeah, I got goose bumpers.
Speaker 1: You mentioned Kolee. You know what I mean. I was
Speaker 1: back to back at the Mama's Center, so I had
Speaker 1: seen him, like I think it was December January or
Speaker 1: something like that. We're back to back coaching, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. He's coaching this girls. You know what
Speaker 1: I mean. I was coaching my ol boys and we
Speaker 1: vibe the kickbacks for a minute and we always take
Speaker 1: a picture, you know, to say something for a minute
Speaker 1: in a holly, you know what I mean. That was
Speaker 1: really my competitor. But you know what I mean, we
Speaker 1: we we was goocy, you know what I mean? So right,
Speaker 1: it just it was awesome to see him really give
Speaker 1: all he had to his girl to his young daughter,
Speaker 1: right and those girls. You know, I mean, I've seen
Speaker 1: it in his eyes, you know, like you like this,
Speaker 1: you have you have a good time in retirement. And
Speaker 1: I could just see it in his eyes that he
Speaker 1: loved it and he gave it off to him like
Speaker 1: we're doing right now. You know what I mean, you
Speaker 1: know what made he made difference in lives like we
Speaker 1: do it right now. I'll get a text right now,
Speaker 1: teenagers and different people because everybody's sitting at home think
Speaker 1: about what they love, who did something good for him
Speaker 1: and they're life Who matters? Right, I'm getting texts with
Speaker 1: different people. You know what, thanks coached me and I
Speaker 1: I remember you did this that another, So you know,
Speaker 1: I feel good to touch lives. That's real talk. Man.
Speaker 1: Speaking of Kobe, you got a chance to play with
Speaker 1: him at the beginning of his career, at the end
Speaker 1: of your career, and we had we had talked about
Speaker 1: this when we have sat down at the crib. Tell
Speaker 1: tell us some of the stuff that went on because
Speaker 1: you caught a young Kobe and you guys are in
Speaker 1: the same position right for sure. So my third year
Speaker 1: in the league was Kobe's first. He came in with KG. Right,
Speaker 1: they came me together, right, I think so, I believe so.
Speaker 1: So my third year was his first. Adie Jones was
Speaker 1: starting off, you know at the time, and he was
Speaker 1: an All Star. He was an All Star whatever, fake
Speaker 1: all star, but he was an All Star, right. And
Speaker 1: then Kobe Kobe, you know, Kobe, I just remember Kobe,
Speaker 1: a young lion. You were just like, you know how
Speaker 1: young lions hunted, you know what I mean, They're like, Man,
Speaker 1: I can get out there and get me a kill,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Just just put me in
Speaker 1: the game, Coach. He was over there, Dame. Oh, he
Speaker 1: was over there hungry. I just seen it in his eyes. Right.
Speaker 1: So when he got in the game, right, and I
Speaker 1: used to kill Adie Jones, I just really really served
Speaker 1: that guy. So Kobe, Kobe real talk baby food, the
Speaker 1: Silver Food one, top two and Indy where I didn't
Speaker 1: want me when it wouldn't even know smoke. I just said,
Speaker 1: what's up? But that's some whole other stuff, right. But so,
Speaker 1: so Kobe on the bench way, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: Kobe on the bench, wade ready to go. When he
Speaker 1: got the game, he was real, he was real. Uh.
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna say why right, he was kind of wild.
Speaker 1: But I remember calling my brothers at home, like, man,
Speaker 1: I just played against the Roles young eighteen year old
Speaker 1: that's probably out there. I mean, I ain't never played
Speaker 1: against a young boy. They got it like this. So
Speaker 1: I'm twenty four, twenty five big boy, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean to twenty five playing big, you know, jumping
Speaker 1: doing all that was he doing. But I was I
Speaker 1: was grown man, So in my mind, no young boy
Speaker 1: was gonna you know, I wasn't going for that, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean that even take it to the pain,
Speaker 1: we're gonna books to blow whatever we're gonna do. I
Speaker 1: wasn't going for that. But I've seen the greatness in
Speaker 1: young right then when I called home, I'm like, man,
Speaker 1: this young boy gonna be nice. Fasterward too, uh three
Speaker 1: years later, I mean watching me go to work and
Speaker 1: I'm doing my thing, and then they trade at him
Speaker 1: put him in the game. So his I guess four
Speaker 1: or years when he get really got on right and
Speaker 1: something like that, I think Eddie was gonna he got
Speaker 1: in the game, and he never looked back, right, he
Speaker 1: never looked back. I started to see him for a
Speaker 1: fifth six year a league. So my seven eight or whatever,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, six sethern eight, I'm seeing
Speaker 1: We're going at Kobe a big boy now, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, period, So we're gonna blow for blow.
Speaker 1: Then he wouldn't laugh, and he took over the league.
Speaker 1: That's all I can say. Without he took over the league, bro,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I know he was mimicking Mike.
Speaker 1: I grew up on Mike like dudes grew up on
Speaker 1: Staff and Kobe and all that less, so I get
Speaker 1: it right. But so one thing I will say is
Speaker 1: that I've seen him come from that young boy to
Speaker 1: take over the league, giving everybody thirties, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, giving everybody work. So I tipped my hat
Speaker 1: off to him, But I never really like at the
Speaker 1: end of the day, I was like, man, I'm too
Speaker 1: strong for the dude. So I know we've both got
Speaker 1: some you know, we got some stuff and me nice.
Speaker 1: But if I you know, I'm wanting to beat you up,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, I'm gonna beat you other
Speaker 1: in the paint, and you're gonna have to doull teams.
Speaker 1: So they had to dog team every time. It don't
Speaker 1: matter if Kobe whoever was on me once I got
Speaker 1: on eight team, nineteen feet on end. With that being said,
Speaker 1: I get to Portlands. We go at it. We're losing
Speaker 1: the Western Conference finals. They trade me. I had just
Speaker 1: laid Portland the last the prior three years and scoring.
Speaker 1: I was there to leave Brashid and all of them.
Speaker 1: You know, I was a leader. Those are my boys.
Speaker 1: We had a nice night. I was the oldest dude
Speaker 1: on the team in my six seventh year. We was nice.
Speaker 1: We had sup we had two started five. Germaino Mill
Speaker 1: was a rookie guys season. You know what I mean.
Speaker 1: We have two star five. You know what I mean.
Speaker 1: We was real nice. So they traded me to Atlanta.
Speaker 1: I remember in Atlanta. So I'm at Atlanta. I'm in
Speaker 1: the top five in the league of scoring, killing the
Speaker 1: East Coast. I had been in the West Coast my
Speaker 1: whole career. I'm killing the East Coast. I remember the
Speaker 1: code getting thirty. I get thirty. I go to l
Speaker 1: A Lakers. The next year, Kobe says to me on
Speaker 1: the first day of training camp, Hey, j let's go
Speaker 1: one on one. But I'm talking to be Seawan Shack.
Speaker 1: I said, well, hold on after practice on the first day,
Speaker 1: I said, all, old man, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: I've been jet skiing, you know I was. I I'm
Speaker 1: listening to Barty, you know what I mean. You know,
Speaker 1: I'm trying to tell him that I gotta blow I
Speaker 1: gotta blow this out. Man, give me about a week
Speaker 1: or two and get the shape, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: And I get right you know here, squares. I didn't
Speaker 1: really want him one of my full business. So you know,
Speaker 1: like yeah, he's like he like, he's like, okay, I'm
Speaker 1: still talking. Shack and b shaw. He double back and
Speaker 1: he said, let me don't get that one on one. Jack,
Speaker 1: just just let me know. I said, nigga, what you
Speaker 1: saw here? He wanted to smoke? Oh we went we
Speaker 1: went right now, we went right there. So we went
Speaker 1: right up to the court, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: And uh yeah, he handled his business. I'm out check
Speaker 1: I can make I can make no sense, I can
Speaker 1: make no choose. He handled his business five one, five three,
Speaker 1: five to five four. I said, Man, when I get
Speaker 1: in shape, we're gonna run that back. He look on,
Speaker 1: you don't cooking the guard right. I'm like this a
Speaker 1: little young bigger here man, okay, come back the next
Speaker 1: day of practice. I'm kind of man. I ain't gonna
Speaker 1: lie on man, Kobe says the field. I would only Jr.
Speaker 1: To guard me for the rest of the year. Not
Speaker 1: not deep fish, not what's that boy? Uh George Devin, George,
Speaker 1: ty Ron, lou Roden Harper uh be shot none of them,
Speaker 1: just ha. So with that being said, we went at
Speaker 1: it all year. Man, I respect you my saluting. He
Speaker 1: took over the league and we wouldn't blow to blow
Speaker 1: the whole year. You know those times I had to
Speaker 1: come out of my long sleeve and we get after it.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean. I don't want to put
Speaker 1: nobody on glass. But since I wrote, and you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, I'll remember Diesel Toldy's I think that
Speaker 1: story is out there. Robert or didn't Robert already put
Speaker 1: out a story about what Diesel was gonna give somebody
Speaker 1: about Kobe about some tell us tell us, I tell us, Oh, man,
Speaker 1: I love you, Diesel. I mean, p Coben Man, I'm
Speaker 1: go there. So when I first get to the Lifers,
Speaker 1: Shock tells me, if you and Covid get into it
Speaker 1: is Ting's and the locker I saw a shot out
Speaker 1: of I should have checked first. That's how many days
Speaker 1: a week you want me to get into it with him?
Speaker 1: This is three days in the practice. He's like a
Speaker 1: teen g's up there that. I'm like, man, come on,
Speaker 1: you're playing man the tens and one dollar fields. Man,
Speaker 1: if you ever get into it, you're handing your business grabs.
Speaker 1: I can't believe I'll do the leg and I'm like, man,
Speaker 1: these voice is crazy. Bro, my lad, I don't run
Speaker 1: the fathers. What's good? No, man, good. That's what the
Speaker 1: fans are. The fans love that ship man be getting
Speaker 1: these inside stories, especially if you then to tell a
Speaker 1: story about Shock and Kobe. Man, that ship is dope.
Speaker 1: We love. He would have to put a cap on
Speaker 1: that ship for me, Matt ten thous in my locker, right,
Speaker 1: that's just okay. So how many days a week you
Speaker 1: want me to play ship with this mother, because I'm
Speaker 1: going to if it's ten x every time, because you're
Speaker 1: gonna do it out behind in a week. I used
Speaker 1: to do it for the year, but you don't. I've
Speaker 1: been off the team so fast. Somebody put a lad
Speaker 1: here on that man. Man, you already know that's a
Speaker 1: great one. How are you gonna was out of there? Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's dump. You guys got to share that experience. I
Speaker 1: mean a lot of people don't know. That was a
Speaker 1: good time. I was talking. We were talking about this
Speaker 1: the other day, being able to go back and watch
Speaker 1: film on you. You know, I mean, you would you
Speaker 1: play nine years two? Are a killer? A quick nine?
Speaker 1: But she was killing you know, mean top five and
Speaker 1: score and you won the duck contest like you was
Speaker 1: out there. You really did your thing, man, And although
Speaker 1: it was I mean, you beat the odds with nine,
Speaker 1: you could have definitely played more in my eyes, But
Speaker 1: when you were out there, you were a certified killer
Speaker 1: man right on, family. I was out there like y'all,
Speaker 1: Just like y'all. That's why I went not I think
Speaker 1: I got out as soon as y'all can't. I used
Speaker 1: some sometimes used to watch like no, we may we
Speaker 1: might have put a few together, you know, I mean
Speaker 1: I came after y'all first couple, you know what I mean? Like, man,
Speaker 1: that my type of motherfucker's man. Then my type of
Speaker 1: guys right there? Could you imagine can you imagine him?
Speaker 1: We believe team he's back at home in the bay
Speaker 1: nearly knew me from high because Mr Christman used to
Speaker 1: pick me up in high school. He was my mentors
Speaker 1: for my big brother Salute with high school when I
Speaker 1: was going to the Great Problems and Nellly was the
Speaker 1: coaches and let him come to practice. And I played
Speaker 1: two on two against Mullen and uh Martial Onis Me
Speaker 1: and miss play two on twos. You know what I mean?
Speaker 1: It was all up. But yeah, man, I came in
Speaker 1: the league after twenty my first six in a small
Speaker 1: Monthit not even not even a go to guy, just
Speaker 1: like just like, man, I'm gonna get mine, man, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like I'm getting my my enemy
Speaker 1: is necessary, you know what I mean? It was crazy,
Speaker 1: and that's kind of funny. When KG first came to Minnesota,
Speaker 1: he tells me in the first week, all I want
Speaker 1: to do is catch lives, block shots, rebound and run
Speaker 1: the floor. I said, let's call. I said no, because
Speaker 1: of it was seven feet with red. I said, you're
Speaker 1: crossing over you you handle that? I said no. I
Speaker 1: needed to put up eight to fifty attempts a game
Speaker 1: twic I'll get double team every night. What you mean,
Speaker 1: you ain't gonna shoot? He told me, no, No, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: that's all I'm gonna do. Do your thing. I caught
Speaker 1: you like Craig in the game, he was young, talking
Speaker 1: about here blockshot, talk about excuse about four ago, let's
Speaker 1: go and running get the ruck. Yeah, animated height from
Speaker 1: day one. I was like, I got one, you know,
Speaker 1: I mean it was man kJ. It's a little to you.
Speaker 1: His passion was unmatched. Man kJ passion was unmatch And
Speaker 1: we talked. We we had him on the show and
Speaker 1: we talked to him about you. But a lot you
Speaker 1: you probably don't hear this a lot because you know
Speaker 1: a lot of people don't don't really bring your name
Speaker 1: up a lot. But as far as guys who played
Speaker 1: the game and real ones like me who had to
Speaker 1: get it from the mud. But you are eyea to us.
Speaker 1: You found that car with Ai, you found that a
Speaker 1: girl with Ai to us, bro like a legend because
Speaker 1: you overcame all the arts and you was a dog
Speaker 1: in the one hand and you had to go get it.
Speaker 1: And and seeing you do it, seeing hey, I do it.
Speaker 1: Guys that that come before us, that made all that
Speaker 1: ship possible for us. So we gotta give your flowers now,
Speaker 1: man a little much, my brother respect man. That's I
Speaker 1: mean a lot man, from from from ones that did it.
Speaker 1: You mean all my peers, you know, I mean, we're
Speaker 1: a fraternity and real recognized, real and we know who
Speaker 1: the real real guys were. The real humors are the
Speaker 1: guys that may not get that love, but still their
Speaker 1: peers love them and know what they you know what
Speaker 1: they did. And for me, I'm play with a ship
Speaker 1: on my shoulder, you know what I mean, because you know,
Speaker 1: I let the nation and scorn, you know, out of college.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean. Uh, you know a lot
Speaker 1: of soul. Everybody got a story it on, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. But it's like I didn't graduate from
Speaker 1: high school. My old high school coach felled me my
Speaker 1: senior year. Granted I deserved some of that. So from there,
Speaker 1: Mittrister came in my life. Come pick yourself back up.
Speaker 1: I got back, Rob. What I'm saying is, I went
Speaker 1: to Nike camp. I'm missing McDonald's game. I got off
Speaker 1: the radar, you know what I mean. So when I
Speaker 1: came back, I went to junior college, because you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. So when I came back my junior year,
Speaker 1: my senior year, you know matter I would have came
Speaker 1: out junior. I don't want to go late first rounds
Speaker 1: like me, I'm gonna stay one more year. But when
Speaker 1: I came out, Penny, Penny, Alan Houston, that Naxal, well,
Speaker 1: everybody you could think of, who is this dude? They forgot,
Speaker 1: you know, from from a d a I mean cook
Speaker 1: a few years earlier in high school. But I love that.
Speaker 1: I was mad at my coach, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: mad at the world on the hoop court though, mad
Speaker 1: at the will, playing with a chip on my shoulder,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So when I got picked fifth,
Speaker 1: I remember going to combines. I'm the second guard taking
Speaker 1: after Penny, you know what I mean. And we're gonna
Speaker 1: talk about me and Penny story two. We have some
Speaker 1: nice little bottles though, you know what I mean, respect
Speaker 1: the Penny, but I'm a second guard taking after Penny.
Speaker 1: So in my head I mean combines, I mean college, like, oh,
Speaker 1: I'll player there. I'm getting thirty and nine, shooting over
Speaker 1: forty percent from three, over fit percent from two and
Speaker 1: getting thirty and nine. So I'm like, y'all second team
Speaker 1: All American. So you got Kyl for Cheney Player of
Speaker 1: the Year and All these dudes get to combine. You know,
Speaker 1: I go, I'm like, who, Who's okay? I'm eating? They're not.
Speaker 1: They're not playing like I'm playing. I'm playing with a
Speaker 1: chip in my show. I'm hungry, playing for bread and meat.
Speaker 1: I tell kids this. Now you know we're playing for bread.
Speaker 1: Meat means a different different You ever seen a hungry, hungry,
Speaker 1: hungry dude. I hungry playing playing for bread meat. So
Speaker 1: I was winning the dudes, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: So I gotta picked fifth. It wasn't because of whatever.
Speaker 1: It's because I went to work. I couldn't went to
Speaker 1: work my sea year, but I went to work in
Speaker 1: the combines. So when the NBA, man, I'm gonna tell
Speaker 1: you something, it was dudes making all star teams like
Speaker 1: these little ones to say, now that was my son's
Speaker 1: these little dude they was. I was killing these dudess.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean. I was killing these dudes.
Speaker 1: I remember the Eddie Jones, the Finley's whatever. I got
Speaker 1: no disrespect of nobody, you know what I mean. I
Speaker 1: was just putting ain't know, disrespect. That's the truth. If
Speaker 1: we're in the same room, I said the same thing, man,
Speaker 1: You know what I mean, and I don't mean, I
Speaker 1: don't need to names out them, but they was in
Speaker 1: the Western Conference finals. I knew Miss Richmond and Drexler
Speaker 1: was gonna get in because you know whatever. But even
Speaker 1: when I can, all was a problem, you know. I mean,
Speaker 1: Miss that's my brother we Wan bl blow. But I
Speaker 1: was a problem for drex and all the young ones.
Speaker 1: I'm serving all that I couldn't get All Star games
Speaker 1: from now. I'm marriage to twenty four in February. You
Speaker 1: know that's All Star time. Dude, That seventeen I did,
Speaker 1: gave twenty nine and they need double teams the whole
Speaker 1: four games, the whole So I played mad sometimes, like, man,
Speaker 1: you're playing with me, but at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: we're bad boys. Sometimes we played with that chip on
Speaker 1: the shoulder, you know, man, the mediac you don't showing
Speaker 1: my chip show on my chest. You mean, I don't
Speaker 1: even know what it was about. Y'all folks talk about me.
Speaker 1: Want to do an interview with me after the game? Man,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, I'll played with a chip
Speaker 1: on my shoulder. She just see this thirty four in
Speaker 1: his heart, you know what I mean? That passion. You
Speaker 1: know I'm gonna give it to you like that, you
Speaker 1: know what. But I always as hard as we go.
Speaker 1: Some nights the double teams don't even work. Doesn't work,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Somebody, double teams don't even work. That.
Speaker 1: I'm hop setting people that we learned from Mike. I'm
Speaker 1: fading away from the double team now, you know what
Speaker 1: i mean. I'm hopping through that. I'm going before the
Speaker 1: double team come. You know what I mean. If you
Speaker 1: ain't talking to me, like if we talked to dudes,
Speaker 1: you know what, dude's gonna talk back. I'm really I'm
Speaker 1: I'm really in you now you're looking. Yeah, I remember
Speaker 1: a lot of my freezes to tell me, Remember, why
Speaker 1: do you post so much? Jake? I'm like, man, I'm
Speaker 1: fifteen pounds heavier than everybody, and I can see it
Speaker 1: in the guards. They don't want no smoke down your dog.
Speaker 1: I don't gonna give me ten easy points, mid post
Speaker 1: post whatever. Bro. I got these threes and the blow by,
Speaker 1: but I'm gonna give it to them how they want.
Speaker 1: Because it's too many. I ain gonna catch your shoot
Speaker 1: five times in a row, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Because the coach won't me too. You know what I mean.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna beat somebody up and get some money. M easy,
Speaker 1: easy money, bang on them. Now. We love that. We Uh,
Speaker 1: it was funny to Jack mentioned it, but we had happened.
Speaker 1: I guess you did an interview and then we had
Speaker 1: happened to have KG and they told the Michael. You
Speaker 1: guys both told the Michael Jordan's story and that ship
Speaker 1: was hilarious. Do you have any other memorable matchups against
Speaker 1: against Mike outside of that one? Because I mean, that
Speaker 1: story went viral. Everybody's seen it and they mirror your
Speaker 1: guys a story. We're dead on each other. It was crazy. Hey,
Speaker 1: that was spot on, man. I saw that. I was
Speaker 1: laughing so hard and that was so real and you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. And I had to guard that
Speaker 1: me and so KG was just on one feeling good.
Speaker 1: But I do have another story that's to me. I
Speaker 1: think it's cool. So this is my first time playing
Speaker 1: against Mike. Right, I played against me the All Star
Speaker 1: Scotty people had an All Star game. You were Mike
Speaker 1: kissed the floor and then all of that. So I'm
Speaker 1: in Chicago, We're playing in that Uh, I think he
Speaker 1: was he yeah, So he set out played that summer.
Speaker 1: So he comes back. My first time playing against some
Speaker 1: love in the NBA game. So we go out to
Speaker 1: center court. They're about to jump or you know, we
Speaker 1: all go out right beside each other. My first time
Speaker 1: playing against the Bulls, and they was like, you know,
Speaker 1: rock stars, right, So I remember, let me rewind. I
Speaker 1: remember on the bench, but atould walk out and you know,
Speaker 1: I'm looking at Mike, and Mike used to tap his toes.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean, he stretched his hands out
Speaker 1: real why you know what I mean to do the
Speaker 1: little you know, a little little Mike for the walk.
Speaker 1: So I grew up when I was like Ida. So
Speaker 1: I'm looking at him right, looking at his manners and characteristics.
Speaker 1: We're going to have court. I remember, Mike, look at me.
Speaker 1: I got a bald head, wrist band up to my elbow,
Speaker 1: like way up here, like you know, he's way way
Speaker 1: up here to the to the to the body set. Mike,
Speaker 1: look at my head, look at the wrist band. Look
Speaker 1: down at me. I had on my own shoes. I
Speaker 1: had Scotty riders. Look down on my shoes. Look back
Speaker 1: up at me right and look this way right. So
Speaker 1: I look at you like it sized you up. He did,
Speaker 1: But in my mind, I'm like, oh, he probably think
Speaker 1: I'm trying to look like him. Yeah, I say, well,
Speaker 1: I said, real story. I said, wrap hold up, I
Speaker 1: take off the wristband. I'm running to this. I'm running
Speaker 1: to the all bench. Take all the wristband, throw it
Speaker 1: to our trainer. Come back out there. Look at him
Speaker 1: and we just get it in you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: we just get it in here. But in my mind,
Speaker 1: I'm looking at him like you look. I thought he
Speaker 1: was looking at me like, oh, you want to be
Speaker 1: like me and Hunt, You're gonna be like Mikey. So
Speaker 1: I'm a big boy now, I'm like, and no more
Speaker 1: and no more idols, man, I mean, it's that got
Speaker 1: time now. You know, I'm trying to look like But
Speaker 1: that's a whole other stuff. But that that that KG
Speaker 1: is the real hoop stuff, you know. After that, like
Speaker 1: my she it's funny, man, right, she hit me after
Speaker 1: you saw the KG. And I remember in Portland's I
Speaker 1: did something similar. I don't really know what you can
Speaker 1: talk about, but I think I had. I had I
Speaker 1: had to go back and look at the game. Look.
Speaker 1: I pulled up some footage and Mike went by me
Speaker 1: and you know, there's something she but it was almost
Speaker 1: he contested it. He almost duncked on she. But it
Speaker 1: was like real nasty and people was talking ship to
Speaker 1: Mike and had him on one, so he was kind
Speaker 1: of trying to go at the bids, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. He just you know made him all whatever. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that was it, man, you know what I mean. The game.
Speaker 1: I stayed quiet with Mike. Bro, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna live, but yeah, I used to give
Speaker 1: him some members though. On the load. You know that
Speaker 1: slam duck chill, the East Bay funk is born that bro.
Speaker 1: I've been doing that dunkins like ninth grade, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. I was doing that dunk ninth grade.
Speaker 1: So it was just something from from from way back
Speaker 1: for me. Everybody was doing Dominique Jordan's, you know, doing
Speaker 1: their dunks. So you know, one day I tried and
Speaker 1: got close, so I was like, oh, I'm gonna have that,
Speaker 1: and then I had it in like a week. So
Speaker 1: I was doing like people that know me go old
Speaker 1: school with me. I went to school with me. No,
Speaker 1: I've been doing that dunk. It's like fourteen fifteen. You
Speaker 1: know what I mean. The Boys Club dunk contest, Chris Maulan,
Speaker 1: when you played for the Warrior Judge the dunk contest.
Speaker 1: When I was in youngster at the Boys Club, I
Speaker 1: did that dunk. But with that being said, I just
Speaker 1: kept it going, brought it to college. You know, I
Speaker 1: freaked in college. You want to college dunk contest And
Speaker 1: it was like, okay, you know what I mean. And
Speaker 1: then you know when I got to the NBA stage,
Speaker 1: obviously went to a tremendous level. Man, that's just all school.
Speaker 1: That's that neighborhood stuff. You know what I mean. I
Speaker 1: mean he was going to you was going between the legs,
Speaker 1: and you know what I mean, like you said in
Speaker 1: in high school and then in the pros you did it.
Speaker 1: What do you think about the creativity? So you know
Speaker 1: to this point because all these dunks have been done,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, So you gotta come with
Speaker 1: some crazy ship now to make away. But these kids
Speaker 1: are coming with that crazy ship and making away. What
Speaker 1: are your thoughts on the being a former slam dunk chimp?
Speaker 1: So I want a lot? Right since nine in three
Speaker 1: right people been going between lean was Colden Vance Brian,
Speaker 1: you know, little Brian had been but other dudes, you know,
Speaker 1: it's going between the legs. And I was like, man,
Speaker 1: this is crazy j Rich and you know, I just
Speaker 1: the us. I was like, are you kidding right now?
Speaker 1: I mean, these dudes, we're just doing some crazy stuff, man,
Speaker 1: and still doing crazy stuff. So to me, the evolution
Speaker 1: of the dunk, Like, so I didn't practice dunks, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, I didn't. I didn't. You know,
Speaker 1: the first dunk comes as a second. I didn't go
Speaker 1: out there. I don't have no routine. I don't know
Speaker 1: what else is gonna do. I didn't practice no dunks,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And even coming up in
Speaker 1: high school, you know, everybody had to balancing ones and
Speaker 1: we we dunked out, you know what I mean here
Speaker 1: on Minor used to go at it in high school
Speaker 1: and so we dont Yeah we should go out of
Speaker 1: high school. I mean Southern Cow, North Cow. We we yeah,
Speaker 1: we had a rowing um without getting said we had practice.
Speaker 1: We just went off the cuff. So now dudes is
Speaker 1: taking behind the back, taking you know, practicing, looking at
Speaker 1: pro dunkers, taking time, getting the time and getting advice
Speaker 1: from us, you know, what I mean, and going in
Speaker 1: the lab and getting major dunks off, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. So I just look at it like the
Speaker 1: evolution is incredible, man, I mean just to go from
Speaker 1: a simile baseline between the lads two at the end
Speaker 1: of my dunk contest, so I used to throw it
Speaker 1: up to and into my dunk contest. I'm talking to
Speaker 1: Sean Kemp like me, they wanted to be doing more dunk.
Speaker 1: I'm like, man, I'm gonna throw it up, go off
Speaker 1: verb and go between legs and Antonio and David like, man,
Speaker 1: you're good that out said, Like all right, so I
Speaker 1: wouldn't did something else With that being said, I look
Speaker 1: at it now like, man, they go on behind the back,
Speaker 1: off the backward. It's incredible. Man, I'm at all you
Speaker 1: know what I mean When I see these dudes. You
Speaker 1: know what I mean? With that being said, Man, I
Speaker 1: think Aaron going went Aaron Gordon won the dunk contest.
Speaker 1: It's been getting two times possibly man, baby with two
Speaker 1: and they ain't any stuff doing that to that kid.
Speaker 1: How you feel about that? That dunk being named the
Speaker 1: JR Ridy, Like every time I see somebody do it,
Speaker 1: I ain't somebody to talk about it between the legs,
Speaker 1: were like, I'm gonna try this JR. Rider like that
Speaker 1: that that actual Dunk is basically named after you. Now, man, stay,
Speaker 1: I'm glad you said that, bro, because I was starting
Speaker 1: to think otherwise because the NBA don't give me no
Speaker 1: cross and the bottom man, you know, the real was
Speaker 1: no man, the real was no doubt, my goodness, man.
Speaker 1: And look the bottom line, they're doing it way better
Speaker 1: than the original now, but they still home with the
Speaker 1: legs and win the Dunk contest in brond at the
Speaker 1: end of the day. You mean that Dunk has lasted
Speaker 1: a long years, man, you know what I mean. And
Speaker 1: that's me behind you. So with that being said, look
Speaker 1: I feel I'm glad you see that because when I'm
Speaker 1: around people, I don't I don't. I don't hear that much.
Speaker 1: I just hear him saying. So I'm around a lot
Speaker 1: of key hits and we're getting older, so they might
Speaker 1: they might just say the East they funked him, and
Speaker 1: not even though I'm right there, you know what a
Speaker 1: hundred times say I'm about to do East they funk
Speaker 1: And I just looked like you're about to do what
Speaker 1: I'm about stay fun. I'm like, man, this is a
Speaker 1: cold game and here for me even though and this okay, Mike,
Speaker 1: Mike Foster. Look, I just gave some plug. Mike Foster
Speaker 1: with hill Cress, he'll be a senior this year. I
Speaker 1: thought six forty five in the top five in this
Speaker 1: class or whatever. You know what I mean. Uh real nice.
Speaker 1: I was coaching last year with hill Press, and I'll
Speaker 1: be coaching getting that year with him. He says in practs,
Speaker 1: I'm about to do the East by funk. Watch out,
Speaker 1: y'all about to do the East by phone. I said, Man, Mike, Man,
Speaker 1: come on, man. He's like, well, I'm about to do
Speaker 1: the East by phone. I said, Man, I'm standing right here.
Speaker 1: You're gonna say that Jr. Right or something? Man, you
Speaker 1: just don't say, man, I just because I feel like
Speaker 1: the Bay Funk I've forgotten. Man, I'm a trademark that thing.
Speaker 1: And be like, man, this is just a JR. Right, Man,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Now? You know it? Just
Speaker 1: love people know. I think the ogs, the parents, let
Speaker 1: the kids know that that hey man, that's such a
Speaker 1: such he was the first one to do it. And
Speaker 1: and then and then you know that arn't the direction
Speaker 1: of what time it is. But that's why I feel
Speaker 1: like it's so important to tell your story because when
Speaker 1: people here the kind of ship you was going through
Speaker 1: off the court and still coming out here and dropping
Speaker 1: twenty in the n b A with the ship you
Speaker 1: were going through. That's why you and Jack are so similar,
Speaker 1: knowing both you guys, and it's funny you guys clicked
Speaker 1: before we got on camera, like you got to come
Speaker 1: from the same cloth. Y'all been through a lot of
Speaker 1: the crazy similar off the course should and be able
Speaker 1: to steal focus and go out and give buckets. Man.
Speaker 1: So I mean, that's why we're excited, man, just to
Speaker 1: tell your story. I've been telling the showtime about you
Speaker 1: that they're they're drooling at the mouth. You're gonna get that, wena.
Speaker 1: We're gonna get you. We're gonna get your story told. Man,
Speaker 1: it's real, you know what I mean. That's why me
Speaker 1: and me and you we get down and we click.
Speaker 1: We rocked together all right off top, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. I remember, brother sat I remember first time
Speaker 1: we're in the hotel room, me and the Portland boys.
Speaker 1: You walk through the door with h B. Wales. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know I'm a whole school. We don't like you,
Speaker 1: you know, we don't like you. Pace right, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know who's who, right, you know, we don't
Speaker 1: know who's who. Man. Like what you're doing here now? Man? Man,
Speaker 1: this this is real And you look at me like man,
Speaker 1: dog was good? Man? How you doing a problem? Real?
Speaker 1: When I live right in your eyes? Oh yeah, this
Speaker 1: is you know, because we were like, yeah, right off top,
Speaker 1: we hit it right off top, right off. Then I
Speaker 1: already knew he was a real one. Man. But you know,
Speaker 1: I heard a lot of your stories. It's heavy. Life
Speaker 1: be to heavy, you know what I mean. You know,
Speaker 1: life it heavy, you know what I mean. And I
Speaker 1: like how you relay your messages to the world. You
Speaker 1: your triumphs as well as your your You're false, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. So I salute you stack, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. And I tried to do the
Speaker 1: same thing, you know what I mean. But yeah, everybody
Speaker 1: got a story to tell. Man, I was a bad
Speaker 1: boy to league, you know what I mean. The real
Speaker 1: man that they talked to me. BacT like they want
Speaker 1: to talk. Stop playing. You don't like me, I'll go
Speaker 1: out get Twitter five you're looking at him crazy, showing them,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, looking back, as I wish
Speaker 1: I could have changed certain things, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: But that's how I was to go though, That's how
Speaker 1: I was supposed to go. Man, I wanted to ask you.
Speaker 1: I wanted to ask you because I think the misconception
Speaker 1: of people. Do you think that cost you in all
Speaker 1: star appearances or money? Or do you think the way
Speaker 1: you approached the game with with within reason you had
Speaker 1: a reason to have that motherfucking ship? You know, me
Speaker 1: and Jack played the same way, but you think your
Speaker 1: approach may have fucked up some other things or things
Speaker 1: you possibly had lined up if you took a different approach,
Speaker 1: do I do? Honestly? You know what I mean? And
Speaker 1: a real man can confess that, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: I real one, only ever real one, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. I just feel as if professionalism came into
Speaker 1: play and look at that guy. You know, I have
Speaker 1: a young son, and if he's ever in the situation
Speaker 1: I was in, you know what I mean, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: beat him in his head as far as professionalism respects
Speaker 1: your craft, being know how significant this moment is. You
Speaker 1: know what I mean, I never took enough for granted,
Speaker 1: but I didn't grasp but in the moment significance of
Speaker 1: who I was and what I had gone, you know,
Speaker 1: I was a star. So I looked back at it,
Speaker 1: like the mistakes I made I could have changed. For sure.
Speaker 1: I could have made more money, I could have did
Speaker 1: different things, you know what I mean, parlay my career,
Speaker 1: you know, much further than we didn't win. So I
Speaker 1: looked back. Yeah, I look inward, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: I look inward and said, there's some things I could
Speaker 1: have changed. With the media, I mean, from minute one,
Speaker 1: even at unov in college is seeing you know, from
Speaker 1: minute one, it was everybody against me. You know what
Speaker 1: made me feel like you know a lot of bad
Speaker 1: articles and a lot of a lot of you know,
Speaker 1: negative stuff out there at ap Press to every city.
Speaker 1: So I shut down, you know what I mean. I
Speaker 1: just felt like, Okay, y'all don't like me. I don't
Speaker 1: like you. You don't rock with me. I don't rock
Speaker 1: with too. You know, we're not gonna fake it. I
Speaker 1: just I didn't embrace that part, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: And that's the part that sets you know, superstars from
Speaker 1: stars or good players, some great players, you know, depending
Speaker 1: on the market too. I'm in a small market, so
Speaker 1: I just loot that as like you know, a bad
Speaker 1: way right off talk. You know what I mean. Rookie season,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So you know, uh, I
Speaker 1: had I had to put it like I'm just put
Speaker 1: it straight up. I couldn't understand why it was me
Speaker 1: against the world. But if it's me against the world,
Speaker 1: if y'all really don't, you don't even understand what I
Speaker 1: had to do to get here. Anyway, I can answer
Speaker 1: that question for you. I can answer that question for you,
Speaker 1: big bro. Let me ask that question for you. I
Speaker 1: know what it was. And because we because like you said,
Speaker 1: we are similar, we had you had to prove yourself
Speaker 1: so much to get to the point, to get to
Speaker 1: the point to the NBA. Now I'm in the NBA
Speaker 1: and you average averaging, having having twenty point season, twenty
Speaker 1: point season, twenty point season, and y'all still want to
Speaker 1: talk to me about everything but but the game of basketball.
Speaker 1: What I'm doing, well, the ship would drive anybody crazy.
Speaker 1: I went through the same ship, you know, just just
Speaker 1: about me defending my teammate in the stands. You know,
Speaker 1: what I'm saying I had. I had three four ye
Speaker 1: in the road wid average twenty nobody never heard about.
Speaker 1: Every time they talk about me, I remember the brawl
Speaker 1: I missed. I missed a whole bunch of opportunities for
Speaker 1: the All Star because of that. And so what I'm
Speaker 1: saying you was borling. He was boring. You was doing
Speaker 1: everything you was supposed to do, but always continuously having
Speaker 1: to prove something to somebody. When I'm proving, y'all, I'm
Speaker 1: proving to y'all every night what I'm supposed to be doing,
Speaker 1: and that's playing a game of basketball. Y'all still want
Speaker 1: to twit? Ship is drive anybody crazy? Bro? True enough?
Speaker 1: I mean, bro, it was taking in Minnesota. Bro, you
Speaker 1: mean this this is my rookie season. But that's true,
Speaker 1: very true. You know what I mean. I'm me in
Speaker 1: my rookie season in Minnesota. In the newspaper they put
Speaker 1: somebody wants to shoot j R. Volks. You know what
Speaker 1: I mean. My people in South Minneapolis nomber time it is.
Speaker 1: I still talked to a few of my boys. I
Speaker 1: was like, man, find out what's going on there. It
Speaker 1: was somebody wrong on a garage like some gag back ship.
Speaker 1: It was a whole nother, a whole another whatever it was,
Speaker 1: and what that was, whatever, and nothing to do me.
Speaker 1: The newspaper put out there to the people. I remember
Speaker 1: reading this is my first this is my first being there,
Speaker 1: first month, being in it, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: And and media just too. They never braced boom boom boom,
Speaker 1: and back then they had the A P press. So
Speaker 1: anything this person feels, we send it to the next
Speaker 1: person and they just they just run with that story.
Speaker 1: If there. If you never mean I hit my faults,
Speaker 1: you don't mean, because look I had to learning in
Speaker 1: my rookie season, I get it, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: very minute compared to contrast too. But with that being said,
Speaker 1: I mean the media every city was on one. I
Speaker 1: was a bad boy. I took it like okay, I
Speaker 1: didn't embrace like I'm a bad way. I was just
Speaker 1: more like, man, y'all got me twisted. I'm about to
Speaker 1: go serve this two guarden whoever, whatever, seeing whoever, and
Speaker 1: and and I'm gonna keep living my life, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. Yeah, I didn't like them folks, and
Speaker 1: they didn't like me, you know what I mean. It
Speaker 1: was a trip, you know what I mean? And then
Speaker 1: you know, because you know I can't people think the
Speaker 1: white T shirts and you don't mean I just start that.
Speaker 1: I ain't talking say I'm not saying that like that.
Speaker 1: But I'm just I'm not sayingthing like that. You know
Speaker 1: what I mean. I love a He's an icon and
Speaker 1: that's that's the soldier, you know what I mean. But
Speaker 1: people think whenever he came in ninety five, ninety six,
Speaker 1: nine ninety three, they already chose a bad boy. They
Speaker 1: was already hating on this kid. I wasn't going to
Speaker 1: the All Bro. It's footage. I'm gonna show it to you, Matt.
Speaker 1: It's gonna make. It's gonna make the thing that we
Speaker 1: do together for showtime. Bro. I'm telling it's gonna make.
Speaker 1: It's footage of me Eddie Jones making an All Star Guy,
Speaker 1: of me getting numbers and numbers and talking to him
Speaker 1: in the Guy and they would come give me interviews
Speaker 1: and we using we using the playoffs. So I say,
Speaker 1: a writer, how you feeling about your match up with
Speaker 1: you and Eddie Jones? You shoul you want to talk
Speaker 1: to me about that? I can just get dressed right now.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean. Yeah, you know how you
Speaker 1: feel that you guys got a little matchup. You guys
Speaker 1: got a little battle going ain't no battle going on.
Speaker 1: I'll give him twenty nine. He gets about seventeen eighteen.
Speaker 1: They got shaggy Meti players, so they feature team. So
Speaker 1: you got nick Fan actually going the All Star game,
Speaker 1: Eddie Jones doing an All Star game, shock, and I
Speaker 1: think one more, I forget you mean. So I'm like,
Speaker 1: I'm eating up Eddie Jones at my position. You know
Speaker 1: what I mean. I'm sorry keep saying your name, but
Speaker 1: because we don't even have but I've eating up this
Speaker 1: guy at my position. So you're telling me how to
Speaker 1: match up one go. They're gonna double team me every
Speaker 1: time I get the balls how to match up the
Speaker 1: go And I'm still gonna get twenty five game. And
Speaker 1: that's that's that, you know what I mean. So if
Speaker 1: he's an All Star, I say this, man, I said,
Speaker 1: if he's an All Star, I'm an All Pro period.
Speaker 1: I'm trying y'all give me these All Star nos to
Speaker 1: these different dudes. And then when Philly King they started
Speaker 1: doing it to him too, I'm like, man, man, I'm
Speaker 1: playing in Dallas in front of my folks. Woo if
Speaker 1: I come in Texas and play Dallas, I have fifty
Speaker 1: sixty people in the stand, my daddy and all of them,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I had to get at him,
Speaker 1: so I'm starting filly too. He made the All Star team.
Speaker 1: I said, man, this is a rigor. Yeah, I stopped.
Speaker 1: I stopped caring, you know what I mean. Like Devin Booker,
Speaker 1: daddy fixed ever book his daddy. I played against him
Speaker 1: in college, so he I ran it to him about
Speaker 1: a month ago. He's like, man, devil was mad he
Speaker 1: didn't get the knock the All Star And I said, man,
Speaker 1: his peers know what time he can get out. I mean,
Speaker 1: everybody know what you know what it is? You know
Speaker 1: what I mean? Right to him to keep his head up.
Speaker 1: He's like, no, he was really shook up. And he's like,
Speaker 1: you know, it was like really in the duff like
Speaker 1: he's gonna thank it for a second, like what And
Speaker 1: I gave him my example of this. It's like what
Speaker 1: I went through, and I could tell your dad. Maybe
Speaker 1: maybe it wasn't. He couldn't compare like maybe his son now,
Speaker 1: but right, but I was telling him I went through
Speaker 1: that I went through looking at guys like how are
Speaker 1: they making the All Star when I'm killing you know
Speaker 1: what I mean? Like you know what I mean, Like
Speaker 1: I don't get it to him. Keep his head up.
Speaker 1: His peers know what it is. You know what I mean.
Speaker 1: That's really good. But yeah, hey man, there's so much
Speaker 1: more we want to get into. But that's all. You
Speaker 1: gotta come to the studio. Man. We gotta get you
Speaker 1: a studio. We gotta tell you, we gotta talk more
Speaker 1: about your story. But man, we appreciate your time today.
Speaker 1: Thank you for spending it with us and sharing some
Speaker 1: going to get you, bro. I thank y'all know I
Speaker 1: was a little chatting, a little talking to him, but
Speaker 1: I need more. I can't. I need more with your
Speaker 1: face to face, that's what Ita. You know she got
Speaker 1: some more to tell you. Yeah, I know some stories
Speaker 1: already because some of my people will rock with you.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean. That's world. It's just Jack
Speaker 1: to stath that love. That's love. It was fact. We
Speaker 1: gotta do it again when we sit down, I mean,
Speaker 1: do it right, no doubt for sure, Jack, you got
Speaker 1: Jack got a special begging section request usually asked for
Speaker 1: stuff for people but he has a special request for
Speaker 1: you perfect yeah, being being there, I got so much
Speaker 1: respect for you and I never really had a time
Speaker 1: just to kick it with you. Nothing like that I got.
Speaker 1: I just want to get a session there on this.
Speaker 1: I just want to get a session there with you
Speaker 1: one time. Yeah, we got to at one time. If
Speaker 1: you want to do it once, I want to do
Speaker 1: it two times. You know, we get I just want
Speaker 1: to get the first one in. But I want to
Speaker 1: get the first one. I mean, I'm like snoop my
Speaker 1: senses the last long time man. You know what. We
Speaker 1: gotta get a session there, bro, I have come through too.
Speaker 1: We got to look, we have to the string coming out.
Speaker 1: And about two months it's okay to say, you know what,
Speaker 1: Scott Scott packing MiGs and the door, Green Door in
Speaker 1: the baby. I grew up with the guys when I
Speaker 1: went pro. A lot of the dudes went grown, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. So they're real large in the game,
Speaker 1: and they're gonna put East Bay funk s ran out,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean about three months, you know what.
Speaker 1: I was in the town about a month ago and
Speaker 1: it's it's lovely, you know what I mean. So we
Speaker 1: definitely got it, you know what I mean. Put about ten,
Speaker 1: I'm together and everybody he's talking. He talking about a
Speaker 1: good session, a good like fat rat. That might be
Speaker 1: a power sit there. We might doze off of that bit.
Speaker 1: We're gonna come right back to life. That's it, man,
Speaker 1: But JR. Thank you. Man. I hope you guys enjoyed
Speaker 1: the special Quarantine episode of All the Smoke with Bay
Speaker 1: Area legend JR. Ryder Jack. Great show, JR. Thank you
Speaker 1: for coming on. Man, We appreciate you. You can catch
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Speaker 1: of podcasts. All of them boys, This life was all
Speaker 1: I ever wanted. I'm not leaving, not yet knows hoping
Speaker 1: that you gotta hit the streets make some money. Maybe
Speaker 1: like us, let's destroyed people. I can't buckle up. Get
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