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Speaker 2: To this show.

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Speaker 3: I'm Luke Thomas, I'm Brian Campbell.

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Speaker 2: This is Morning Combat. It is Monday, August tenth, twenty twenty,

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Speaker 2: and it is time, donks for Morning Combat. Hi everyone,

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Speaker 2: my name is Luke Thomas. Hope you are doing well.

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Speaker 2: Happy Monday to you. I am one half of your

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Speaker 2: hosting duo. I am joined by the gentleman on the

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Speaker 2: other side of the screen, the Conspiracy to my theory

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Speaker 2: and everything else in between. It's Brian Campbell, High BC.

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Speaker 2: How was your weekend?

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Speaker 1: It was nice, Luke. I got power back finally yesterday

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Speaker 1: after four and a half days without it, So that

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Speaker 1: was a bit of an s show, if you will.

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Speaker 1: But you know, so is this one, Luke. And I'm

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Speaker 1: our people, Let's get talk in some combat here. I

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Speaker 1: know what you're saying, though, you know what happened, A

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Speaker 3: But you know, we'll roll on, We'll fight through it.

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Speaker 2: Hey, we are all doing our best with the resources

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Speaker 2: that we have. Couple of news and notes. Of course,

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Speaker 2: today we'll get to the Bellator card from Friday, Michael

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Speaker 2: just happened, Derek Lewis, Chris Wyman getting in the w column.

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Speaker 2: And of course this coming weekend Showtime is taking place

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Speaker 2: with a big boxing card plus BC. We should announce this.

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Speaker 2: We're not gonna get to it today really, because we're

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Speaker 2: two preview. We'll do it all in one big episode

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Speaker 2: later this week NBC. My Dissected will be a preview

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Speaker 2: of that Trilogy fight. So we're not gonna get to

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Speaker 1: I mean, let's be honest, d Sa stpay three pay

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Speaker 3: We don't want any of that, all right, nothing.

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Speaker 2: And we should also tell the folks I believe this

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Speaker 1: Let's keep doing that, Luke. By the way, I know

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Speaker 1: I tease it a lot, a lot more announcements to come.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't make Luke okay, okay, friend, Okay.

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Speaker 2: if you think that's a better thing than to sort

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Speaker 2: if you want to say JDS would be a better fight,

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Speaker 2: I think that the second fight, it's hard not to

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Speaker 2: I actually do. I think it would be way way different.

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Speaker 2: But that's not a hell I prepare to die on today.

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Speaker 1: I mean, look, you can only you know, crap in

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Speaker 2: No, it's fine. They were cooking. What were they making?

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Speaker 1: Did what speaking of a Buela's I did want to

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Speaker 3: Last week? A lot of people jumping down my throat saying, hey.

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Speaker 1: Hey, BC A Buila doesn't have good jiu JITs. She

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we did. We did a nice long interview with

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Speaker 3: You can't bring that back room drama to the forefront here.

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Speaker 2: Good job, you see. Hey, let's do more work that

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Speaker 2: time since the Kelvin Gastolm fight, although this one was

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Speaker 2: a little bit of a mixed bag, right he kind

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Speaker 1: I think he proved very similar to Robert Whitaker against

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Speaker 1: important ones. And in this case, I know Widman's losing

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Speaker 1: Is the elite I'm not really sure, but he had

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Speaker 1: And now suddenly with a win like this against a

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Speaker 1: he goes in there against a Romero type. His chin's

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Speaker 1: And I think that was the biggest question he had

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Speaker 3: I mean, he was in tremendous shape. It's a good win.

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Speaker 2: I mean, obviously he got the win. So he did

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Speaker 2: He didn't quite have the same the same kind of

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Speaker 1: I don't think he was properly evolving during that losing street. Look.

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Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, not if iron

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Speaker 3: Well he did that.

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Speaker 1: He out wrestled the guy whose strength is wrestling, and

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Speaker 1: and pour a little sugar on him.

431
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Speaker 3: But in the name of.

432
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Speaker 1: Love, by the way, but I think you look great.

433
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Speaker 1: I have no concerns Luca. None.

434
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Speaker 2: Okay, you say he didn't evolve during the losing streak,

435
00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:04,200
Speaker 2: and I wouldn't argue with that, But you can't tell

436
00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:06,640
Speaker 2: me that that was the same kind of fluid striking

437
00:19:07,119 --> 00:19:09,360
Speaker 2: that you saw even in the Munos fight. I mean,

438
00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:13,240
Speaker 2: if anything, he's trying to reclaim lost territory, far from

439
00:19:13,359 --> 00:19:16,080
Speaker 2: building on it. I don't even think that's trying to change.

440
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Speaker 3: He's trying to change, Luke.

441
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Speaker 1: He's trying to be a you know, a different fighter

442
00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:22,520
Speaker 1: now because the old way wasn't working. Luke say, it

443
00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:24,760
Speaker 1: was certainly on him to, you know, do what he

444
00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:26,080
Speaker 1: had to do to survive.

445
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Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean, I'm a little bit I'm

446
00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:30,600
Speaker 2: a little bit less convinced by that. I mean, it

447
00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:33,440
Speaker 2: did work just fine all the way up through the

448
00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:36,480
Speaker 2: first Anderson Silva fight. He was completely undefeated in that

449
00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:38,640
Speaker 2: Munos fight and certainly his other ones.

450
00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:41,879
Speaker 1: He was in a shrime and the game had an evolved.

451
00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:44,200
Speaker 2: But this is my point, you have to take stock

452
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Speaker 2: of that. Okay, if that's his prime and he's not there, now,

453
00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:51,040
Speaker 2: what are the differences. It's not just physical decline. The

454
00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:54,720
Speaker 2: physical decline coincides with a bit of skills regression that

455
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Speaker 2: I think he's trying to reclaim.

456
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Speaker 1: Now.

457
00:19:56,080 --> 00:19:57,800
Speaker 2: Part of that, to your point, might be, hey, I

458
00:19:57,840 --> 00:20:00,520
Speaker 2: got to switch things up, and when Tiger changes swing,

459
00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:02,840
Speaker 2: it takes some time to get used to it. Fair Enough,

460
00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:05,040
Speaker 2: Like I said, if this is the building block towards

461
00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:09,120
Speaker 2: something new, more sustainable level of success, then I can't

462
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Speaker 2: say anything else about it. I just want to be clear.

463
00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:13,120
Speaker 2: I don't want folks to look at this and go, well,

464
00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:14,439
Speaker 2: you got the W and he did it with the

465
00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:18,080
Speaker 2: dominating third round mission accomplished. No, the devil's in the details,

466
00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:20,360
Speaker 2: and the details are a little bit concerning, at least

467
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Speaker 2: at a bare minimum unclear.

468
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Speaker 1: And by the way, Tiger may change his swing, but

469
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Speaker 1: he hasn't changed his stripes. I'd love love to see

470
00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:29,040
Speaker 1: that guy's DMS. If you know what I'm talking about.

471
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Speaker 2: I knew you were going to say that, all right,

472
00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:35,280
Speaker 2: So let's move on then to a topic where there's

473
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Speaker 2: just no denying. The guy looked unbelievable. How about Michael

474
00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:43,520
Speaker 2: Chandler and what could be BC could be the last

475
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Speaker 2: fight of his belator career, stopping Benson Henderson, and I

476
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Speaker 2: think under three minutes something like that inside the first round,

477
00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:53,480
Speaker 2: only the second person to stop Benson Henderson, and I

478
00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:58,040
Speaker 2: think this strikes anyway. I think this was the quickest.

479
00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:02,520
Speaker 2: So the question now become at thirty four, does a

480
00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:05,640
Speaker 2: move to the Ultimate Fighting Championship make sense? If I'll

481
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Speaker 2: go first on this one, if I may, And the

482
00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:11,960
Speaker 2: answer is, you know, I did not think so. Heading

483
00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:15,680
Speaker 2: into this fight, I wasn't so sure. And even now BC,

484
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Speaker 2: I'll say this, if he was going to make a

485
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Speaker 2: move to the UFC, thirty four would not be the

486
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Speaker 2: optimal window. It would not be the time that I

487
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Speaker 2: would look at in a fighter's career, especially at one

488
00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:29,520
Speaker 2: hundred and fifty five pounds, and I would say, Okay,

489
00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:32,600
Speaker 2: this is your perfect slot, this is the time to

490
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Speaker 2: ring that bell. On the other hand, here's what he

491
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Speaker 2: showed in this Benson Henderson win. I don't think Benson

492
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Speaker 2: has made a ton of progress since his UFC career,

493
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Speaker 2: either in terms of wins or the evolution of his game.

494
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Speaker 2: Despite the fact that I am certain that he trains

495
00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:50,639
Speaker 2: hard and still actively competes on the jiu jitsu circuit,

496
00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:54,440
Speaker 2: pre pandemic, all that kind of thing. Michael Chandler has

497
00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:56,280
Speaker 2: continued to build on his strengths, and there have been

498
00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:58,880
Speaker 2: ups and downs, no doubt about it. There's been ups

499
00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:01,560
Speaker 2: and downs in terms of fighters. But he was switching

500
00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:05,520
Speaker 2: stance effortlessly, effortlessly here he was disguising what he was doing.

501
00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:09,520
Speaker 2: He still takes risks and sometimes those payoff. Sometimes they don't,

502
00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:13,320
Speaker 2: but when they do, they pay off with absolute spectacular results.

503
00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:15,520
Speaker 2: So here's my thought. Do I think he's the best

504
00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:18,159
Speaker 2: lightweight in the world. You know, that seems like a

505
00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:20,880
Speaker 2: bit of a stretch. But do I think he could

506
00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:23,840
Speaker 2: be in exciting fights in the UFC, No doubt about it.

507
00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:25,920
Speaker 2: If the UFC wants him and they're gonna pay him more,

508
00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:28,119
Speaker 2: it might just make a sense on that level. And

509
00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:30,879
Speaker 2: I think last, but certainly not least, he still seems

510
00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:34,560
Speaker 2: to me at least pretty competitive. Anybody in the top

511
00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:37,119
Speaker 2: five think about a BC would you watch a Chandler

512
00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:41,880
Speaker 2: versus Ferguson, Chandler versus Poirier, Chandler versus Hooker, any of those,

513
00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:46,600
Speaker 2: Chandler versus Felder, any of those sound amazing. So all

514
00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:49,760
Speaker 2: that I don't know, I don't I'll end here. I'll

515
00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:52,280
Speaker 2: just say again, is thirty four of the optimum window?

516
00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:55,000
Speaker 2: Maybe not, but it also may just be better late

517
00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:55,440
Speaker 2: than never.

518
00:22:56,320 --> 00:22:58,520
Speaker 1: Well, I think it may just be better late, Luke,

519
00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:00,520
Speaker 1: and I think you sort of touched on some of that.

520
00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:02,760
Speaker 1: His game has evolved. I mean, look, thirty four to

521
00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:05,080
Speaker 1: eight young, but I think he's come to a point

522
00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:08,479
Speaker 1: where he's his physical and his mental have meshed at

523
00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:11,680
Speaker 1: a level that I actually think this is his absolute prime. Yes,

524
00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:13,919
Speaker 1: he was maybe you know, a little bit more aggressive

525
00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:17,240
Speaker 1: and or durable at different points in his career, but

526
00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:19,240
Speaker 1: he's always a guy who, to your point, will take

527
00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:21,840
Speaker 1: big chances, will lose, some fights, can get hurt. I mean,

528
00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:24,080
Speaker 1: why did he mess so well with Eddie Alvarez, Because

529
00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:27,880
Speaker 1: they're very similar in a lot of intangible categories. But yes,

530
00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:30,720
Speaker 1: it's one thousand percent time for him to find out

531
00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:33,679
Speaker 1: how great he can be. He's too great of a fighter,

532
00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:37,399
Speaker 1: Luke to have gone his whole career without moving up

533
00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:39,680
Speaker 1: to that highest level. And it just so happens right

534
00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:42,719
Speaker 1: now that we're at a historic point in the UFC

535
00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:45,719
Speaker 1: lightweight division. I mean, it is all killer, no filler.

536
00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:47,760
Speaker 1: If it was a different division. You know, you look

537
00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:52,440
Speaker 1: at Belatore right now in featherweight, bantamweight, welterweight. Look, they

538
00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:55,080
Speaker 1: got stocked enough lineups where you could make arguments and

539
00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:57,919
Speaker 1: say he's got enough world class competition there to stay.

540
00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:01,399
Speaker 1: But he's fought the big names many times already through

541
00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:03,879
Speaker 1: Bellator Ben the phrase to the franchise, And it just

542
00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:06,679
Speaker 1: so happens that right now the UFC has tops at

543
00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:09,600
Speaker 1: lightweight by far. It is time to test himself.

544
00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:12,920
Speaker 3: Had he gone out there and won the kind of fight.

545
00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:14,760
Speaker 1: Against Henderson that he did a couple of years back,

546
00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:17,919
Speaker 1: split decision win, looked really good at times, had a

547
00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:21,320
Speaker 1: great first round but you know, kind of not backdoward

548
00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:23,760
Speaker 1: his way to the victory, but didn't look great in

549
00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:27,160
Speaker 1: the final round and had a fighter peeking to stay

550
00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:28,400
Speaker 1: alive and almost beat him.

551
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Speaker 3: We might have the argument and say, okay, thirty four

552
00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:31,440
Speaker 3: a little bit too far.

553
00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:33,840
Speaker 1: If he could have done this at thirty maybe it

554
00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:37,000
Speaker 1: would be better, but no, Luke, he looked absolutely dynamic.

555
00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:40,080
Speaker 1: To your point, the stance switching was so fluid that

556
00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:42,280
Speaker 1: I think I'm not speaking just for myself. I had

557
00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:44,639
Speaker 1: to watch the replay a couple times to really figure

558
00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:47,080
Speaker 1: out exactly what he did to make sure a punch

559
00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:50,320
Speaker 1: actually landed that cleanly, and then you find out that's

560
00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:53,800
Speaker 1: some many Pakiolomachenko shit. He pulled out from the angle

561
00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:56,560
Speaker 1: and the explosiveness to leap in and sort of land

562
00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:59,199
Speaker 1: that flush. Nobody does that to Benson Henderson. And I

563
00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:01,640
Speaker 1: know he's thirty six, but he'd won four in a row.

564
00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:04,439
Speaker 1: He had really been winning the first two minutes of

565
00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:07,879
Speaker 1: that fight with some hard shots that Chandler even said afterwards,

566
00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:10,439
Speaker 1: hurt his ribs, hurt his legs. He knew he was

567
00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:12,400
Speaker 1: in for a real fight, and he got the guy

568
00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:15,159
Speaker 1: out of there. That's the perfect ending, that's the climax.

569
00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:18,320
Speaker 1: That's the Robert Kraft in South Florida. If you will,

570
00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:22,000
Speaker 1: and I know he still will, probably yeah, but you can't.

571
00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:27,600
Speaker 1: You want to play the Chandler jukebox game and start

572
00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:31,760
Speaker 1: naming names. You can't lose right now, So my hope. Okay,

573
00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:33,719
Speaker 1: and by the look if and he had said it

574
00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:36,440
Speaker 1: building up, if Bellator will give him the money he wants,

575
00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:38,640
Speaker 1: he's more than happy to go there. And if they

576
00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:41,800
Speaker 1: want him to finish as a Belatoor fighter, And just

577
00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:44,600
Speaker 1: a reminder, his first two fights outside of Bellatore, every

578
00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:47,760
Speaker 1: other one has been with that organization. You could make

579
00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:50,280
Speaker 1: a pit bull second and third fight. You can do

580
00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:52,840
Speaker 1: some fun things there. But I think it's time for

581
00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:55,040
Speaker 1: him to get in that jukebox and we'll just pick

582
00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:57,800
Speaker 1: the numbers. If UFC will pay him what he deserves,

583
00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:03,040
Speaker 1: Paul Felder might be the the cowboy serony celebrity gatekeeper

584
00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:04,720
Speaker 1: of this new era where if you're Dana White and

585
00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:07,160
Speaker 1: you're looking at the right name to test this guy

586
00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:09,920
Speaker 1: on the way in good God, a Felder Chandler fight

587
00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:13,000
Speaker 1: would be insane. We also know Chandler's been saying publicly

588
00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:15,439
Speaker 1: for two years that he feels he has the unique

589
00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:17,040
Speaker 1: skill set to beat Habib.

590
00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:18,040
Speaker 3: I know what you're saying.

591
00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:19,960
Speaker 1: I'd like to see it, but I know what you're saying,

592
00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:23,919
Speaker 1: but a fight that won't happen. But could you imagine

593
00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:26,760
Speaker 1: Michael Chandler Connor McGregor right now, I mean, that's that's

594
00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:32,080
Speaker 1: that's bago porn at the stag party.

595
00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:34,120
Speaker 2: If you know what I mean, Luke, I know you, yes,

596
00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:37,200
Speaker 2: the Cuckfest twenty twenty that you love to attend. I

597
00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:39,520
Speaker 2: mean two more points I would add at thirty four BC,

598
00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:42,880
Speaker 2: you would agree. If he doesn't make the leap, now

599
00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:45,280
Speaker 2: that's it, because you can't make it at the end.

600
00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:46,840
Speaker 2: Say again, the.

601
00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:48,760
Speaker 1: Window is small right now for him to fight the

602
00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:51,080
Speaker 1: very elite. He's not gonna get three years of this

603
00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:52,440
Speaker 1: right the windows.

604
00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:54,480
Speaker 2: It's like that scene in Star Wars, but they're trying

605
00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:56,560
Speaker 2: to put the millennium falcon and thread the needle there.

606
00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:59,960
Speaker 2: It's not just small. The window is closing. If you

607
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:02,320
Speaker 2: if he's not a four fight deal and that takes

608
00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:04,600
Speaker 2: two more years, you're not gonna be the same fighter

609
00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:06,159
Speaker 2: at thirty six as you are at thirty four. If

610
00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:08,159
Speaker 2: you're gonna make the move, if that's a thing you

611
00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:10,240
Speaker 2: want to do, and if he doesn't because Beltur wants

612
00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:11,760
Speaker 2: to pay him a bunch of money and he wants

613
00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:14,359
Speaker 2: to stay, Hey man, it's prize fighting, no judgment from me.

614
00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:16,479
Speaker 2: But if that's the thing he also wants to do,

615
00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:19,040
Speaker 2: it's it's easy, it's it's now or it's never But

616
00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:21,040
Speaker 2: let's just play a little game here, BC. If we

617
00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:24,320
Speaker 2: can tell me which one of these some of you

618
00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:26,800
Speaker 2: would want to see more than others, I get tell

619
00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:29,600
Speaker 2: me which one of these would not be good. This

620
00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:32,640
Speaker 2: is the top fifteen today. These are not updated rankings

621
00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:35,399
Speaker 2: from Saturday's results. To the extent of that matters. Banil

622
00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:38,119
Speaker 2: Daryusch might move up given his win, but okay, here

623
00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:43,159
Speaker 2: we go. Michael Chandler versus Drew Dover Banger. Michael Chandler

624
00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:48,040
Speaker 2: versus Benil Darry Jush amazing versus Donald Sarrony, I need

625
00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:48,600
Speaker 2: I say more.

626
00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:52,200
Speaker 3: Gregor Good, I'm not. I'm not a run for those I'm.

627
00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:54,240
Speaker 2: Gonna go through. I'm gonna go through. I'm gonna go through.

628
00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:58,720
Speaker 2: Eleven Makachev amazing. Ten Kevin Lee. He's injured, but you

629
00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:02,520
Speaker 2: can imagine it would be pretty good future time exact.

630
00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:03,680
Speaker 1: Thank you.

631
00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:07,160
Speaker 2: Nine Iya Quinta, need I say more. Eight Carlos Diego

632
00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:09,520
Speaker 2: Fajeda coming off that Anthony Pettis win. He's a beast,

633
00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:12,440
Speaker 2: as we mentioned. Number seven, Paul Felder, this is one

634
00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:15,240
Speaker 2: that everyone keeps bringing up. What about Michael Chandler versus

635
00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:18,959
Speaker 2: Charles Olavera Doe Bronx would be a sick fight. And

636
00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:22,720
Speaker 2: then it's a no brainer. It's Hooker McGregor, Ferguson, Parier Gatchee,

637
00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:26,439
Speaker 2: and Nimerga Madoff. In short BC, there's sixteen names. I

638
00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:28,919
Speaker 2: just read you the champ in the top fifteen. Not

639
00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:31,719
Speaker 2: one of those is bad. All of them are good

640
00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:34,480
Speaker 2: in their own way, some better than others. Not one

641
00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:35,399
Speaker 2: of those is bad.

642
00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:38,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean we don't have to say anything else. Okay,

643
00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:39,320
Speaker 1: do it.

644
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Speaker 3: Somebody gave him the money.

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Speaker 1: I mean either way, either way, let's let's applaud him

646
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Speaker 1: and say wherever he goes from here, he has worked

647
00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:49,560
Speaker 1: hard to earn this, and this is a monster victory,

648
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Speaker 1: the way he beat Henderson and the position that he's

649
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Speaker 1: in on the commercial market for what's next.

650
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Speaker 2: This is the way to end your fight when your career,

651
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Speaker 2: my career. I'm sorry about your contract, Like this is

652
00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:03,000
Speaker 2: the way to go out. This is the opposite essentially

653
00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:06,040
Speaker 2: what van Zandt did against he boss. He went in

654
00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:09,800
Speaker 2: there not dominated, but got a dominating win to the

655
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Speaker 2: point where it not only just told you who was

656
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:13,720
Speaker 2: the better fighter of the two. Because this is a

657
00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:16,480
Speaker 2: second victory between them, but also it just made you

658
00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:20,800
Speaker 2: wonder about the possibilities and that might be his golden

659
00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:23,960
Speaker 2: ticket to the Ultimate Fighting Championship at the price point

660
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Speaker 2: that he wants. But I guess we'll have to see,

661
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Speaker 2: all right, So let's talk about other title shots in

662
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Speaker 2: the UFC as we move on two point four BC

663
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Speaker 2: Cody Garbrandt. It turns out your buddy, my buddy, Brett

664
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Speaker 2: Okamoto reporting I think on Friday that Cody Garbrandt is

665
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Speaker 2: going to get the fly weight title shot against Devison

666
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Speaker 2: figure raighter. And I don't recall they had a time

667
00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:44,880
Speaker 2: for that or an event. I think it's to the

668
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Speaker 2: end of the year two fifty four, I want to say,

669
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Speaker 2: so the one for November, I believe. But Cody Garbrandt

670
00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:53,960
Speaker 2: had all those losses in a row, finally got back

671
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Speaker 2: in the win column, a phenomenal win of a hat

672
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Speaker 2: al sunsaw UFC two to fifty. But he did it

673
00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:01,360
Speaker 2: at one thirty five. I know he had floated the

674
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Speaker 2: idea of going to one twenty five his kidney shut down.

675
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Speaker 2: I don't know if the two are related, but one wonders,

676
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Speaker 2: but okay, do you like this call by the UFC?

677
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Speaker 2: What do you make of them giving a title shot

678
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Speaker 2: to a guy with zero fights at one twenty five.

679
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's where you you can certainly criticize this. And

680
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Speaker 1: we had seen Cody come back and look good on

681
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Speaker 1: this comeback, but look, he's in a bantam weight's loaded

682
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Speaker 1: all right. We know that the que is long and

683
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Speaker 1: heavy at this point.

684
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Speaker 2: So I thought he was gonna have a long and

685
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Speaker 2: heavy BC.

686
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Speaker 1: Okay, I mean really, I mean you wonder you wonder

687
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Speaker 1: why this show has a bad reputation there, Louke Okay, uh,

688
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Speaker 1: we know why this happened.

689
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Speaker 3: We know how this happens.

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Speaker 1: I can't say I'm disappointed by it. Fly Weight you

691
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Speaker 1: do need a star, and Devison figuredo could be like

692
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Speaker 1: the perfect villain for that division.

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Speaker 3: We do have sort of some you know, reservations.

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Speaker 1: Could he actually become a star with the lack of

695
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Speaker 1: English and that kind of side of it. But it's

696
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Speaker 1: a great fight, Cody Garbrent figure like an app great

697
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Speaker 1: banger of a fight. Do I want to see if

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Speaker 1: he can make this weight and be great at it?

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Speaker 2: Yes?

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, I just don't feel like it was necessary because

701
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:11,440
Speaker 1: he is his stock is so damn strong right now

702
00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:13,440
Speaker 1: as it is for what he's done in those two

703
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:16,640
Speaker 1: comeback fights at bantamweight, and even with that loaded division,

704
00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:18,720
Speaker 1: he just has the name power to cut to the

705
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Speaker 1: head of that line. So I don't necessarily know why

706
00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:24,520
Speaker 1: this move at this moment makes a ton of sense.

707
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Speaker 1: Now you know why Dana would do it. He also,

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Speaker 1: I mean, look in that division at flyway. There are

709
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Speaker 1: names that we mentioned a couple weeks ago after that

710
00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:34,959
Speaker 1: Figaraedo Win that that are rising that we love, that

711
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:38,360
Speaker 1: make banger fights, the Askarovs, the Morenos, all them. But

712
00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:41,120
Speaker 1: none of those guys are stars. So you get why

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Speaker 1: if Cody can come back in there. He's an a

714
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Speaker 1: side of a pay per view and has been before.

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Speaker 1: He can do this, so that's fine. I don't necessarily

716
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Speaker 1: think he's screwing over anyone. Moreno and Askarov were the

717
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Speaker 1: two guys that you can make arguments that needed to

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Speaker 1: be next. So that's what softens this from being a

719
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Speaker 1: bad move or one you can really criticiz. Size It

720
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Speaker 1: is what it is, Luke, It's gonna be really fun

721
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Speaker 1: to watch. I'm not gonna crap on it, but it's

722
00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:08,960
Speaker 1: it's sort of on brand in the entertainment era for UFC.

723
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Speaker 3: In terms of what they do.

724
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that was exactly my reaction. I had a very

725
00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:15,920
Speaker 2: Max Holloway response to it, which was, it kind of

726
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:17,719
Speaker 2: is what it is at this point. I mean, if

727
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Speaker 2: they're gonna give a title shot to Jose Aldo off

728
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Speaker 2: of not merely one fight in the bantamweight division, but

729
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:28,480
Speaker 2: a loss at that granted controversial, I get it. Still,

730
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Speaker 2: you know, oh to one next to his name terms

731
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Speaker 2: of his bantaweight campaign. At that point, you know, you

732
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Speaker 2: sort of understand like they're just going to do things

733
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Speaker 2: like this. I call it matchmaking, jerry mandering to make

734
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Speaker 2: it work. I mean, here's the only part that I

735
00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:44,320
Speaker 2: don't get. Do I hate the fight on its own

736
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Speaker 2: terms a Garb brand versus Figaredo fight, I don't know

737
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Speaker 2: how much I like it for Cody, where you're gonna

738
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Speaker 2: be draining yourself and fighting a big ass puncher in Figuredo.

739
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Speaker 2: You know that's a little dicey for me. But okay,

740
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Speaker 2: do I think it'll be exciting. I don't have any

741
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Speaker 2: super hardcore reason to doubt it could get This new

742
00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:04,880
Speaker 2: Cody could be a little bit more reserved than the

743
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Speaker 2: old one, so it may be a little boring, but

744
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Speaker 2: let's just say, for the sake of argument, probably not,

745
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Speaker 2: and Cody will swing for the fences, and that makes

746
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Speaker 2: it exciting and certainly a more exciting name than anyone

747
00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:17,280
Speaker 2: else you could put in there for casual fans. I understand.

748
00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:19,600
Speaker 2: I look at what they have, the two top contenders

749
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Speaker 2: you mentioned, Brandon Moreno and Askarov. They're coming off nice wins,

750
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Speaker 2: but they're all decisions, I believe, and so they're tough fighters.

751
00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:27,719
Speaker 2: In the Pantojio win for Askarov or I think it

752
00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:30,440
Speaker 2: was the Kai Kar of France win for Moreno. If

753
00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:33,800
Speaker 2: those are fine wins, but they're not setting the world

754
00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:35,760
Speaker 2: on fire. The only thing I just can't wrap my

755
00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:37,520
Speaker 2: head around with UFC a little bit here is I

756
00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:38,880
Speaker 2: get why they're doing this. I want to add a

757
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:42,640
Speaker 2: little zip and pop to Flyway. It's like, dudes, why

758
00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:45,760
Speaker 2: did you drain and nearly kill this division only to

759
00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:48,600
Speaker 2: resuscitate it. If it means you got to do all

760
00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:50,800
Speaker 2: of this, maybe don't kill it off to begin with.

761
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Speaker 2: And listen, Hindsight's twenty twenty business decisions are easier to

762
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Speaker 2: make than others. I've long said, if you were going

763
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Speaker 2: to cut one division one twenty five and men's division

764
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Speaker 2: would be the one, and I know that upsets the

765
00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:03,880
Speaker 2: MMA hipsters, of which sometimes I'm accused of being BC.

766
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:06,920
Speaker 2: But people cry about what happens to the flyweight division

767
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:10,520
Speaker 2: and then don't watch any flyweight fights by any numbers

768
00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:12,239
Speaker 2: that matter. So to me, it's just a bunch of

769
00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:15,600
Speaker 2: nonsense that makes no I don't pay attention to it.

770
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Speaker 2: And I've often said you could just dump one twenty

771
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Speaker 2: five for one sixty five, and frankly, that's a bit

772
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Speaker 2: of an upgrade to me. I don't know why the

773
00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:23,839
Speaker 2: UFC doesn't do that, But okay, you want to stay

774
00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:26,640
Speaker 2: in the flyweight business, you don't have to do stuff

775
00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:29,239
Speaker 2: like this if you never did the other stuff to

776
00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:31,799
Speaker 2: kill it off to begin with. That's the part where

777
00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:34,759
Speaker 2: I just can't. I just can't understand. So listen, do

778
00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:35,399
Speaker 2: I hate this fight?

779
00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:35,520
Speaker 1: No?

780
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:37,879
Speaker 2: Am I kind of curious about how it's going to go. Yes,

781
00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:39,920
Speaker 2: do I think it might pay dividends for the division

782
00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:42,719
Speaker 2: based on a couple of different result possibilities, No doubt

783
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:46,040
Speaker 2: about it. I am not arguing. I just feel like, okay, okay,

784
00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:48,439
Speaker 2: if we're going to do this to breathe some life

785
00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:50,759
Speaker 2: into a division that needs some life breathed into it.

786
00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:53,479
Speaker 2: I'm fine with it, but I don't want to keep

787
00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:57,200
Speaker 2: seeing this just because we're a little bored with the results.

788
00:34:57,280 --> 00:35:00,240
Speaker 2: Let's build divisions BC to the point where we don't

789
00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:02,719
Speaker 2: have to do this anymore. That, to me, is the

790
00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:03,520
Speaker 2: long term idea.

791
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:04,320
Speaker 3: That's a fair point.

792
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:09,080
Speaker 1: You're basically saying Dana's robbing Peter and Paul to solicitate

793
00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:11,279
Speaker 1: sex with Mary, and that makes a lot of sense there.

794
00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:14,560
Speaker 1: You know what, the most UFC thing to happen for this,

795
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:16,880
Speaker 1: Let's say Garbrant goes in there and beats Figured to

796
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:19,520
Speaker 1: win the title, and then so Hudo comes back and

797
00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:22,279
Speaker 1: the two of them fight for the Flyway title, only

798
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:24,160
Speaker 1: they do them at badam weight so that they both

799
00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:26,040
Speaker 1: don't have to cut down. That would be the most

800
00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:28,200
Speaker 1: UFC move possible at this moment.

801
00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:30,839
Speaker 2: That could happen. Also, the one piece of good news

802
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:33,160
Speaker 2: that deserves to be mentioned here, such as you can

803
00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:35,239
Speaker 2: call it that. As Dana was we talked about on

804
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:38,279
Speaker 2: the show, I believe he was weirdly noncommittal about giving

805
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:40,759
Speaker 2: al Jamaine Sterling a title shot at one hundred and

806
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:42,759
Speaker 2: thirty five pounds. Well, we have some good news, right,

807
00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:47,120
Speaker 2: So it looks like Cody Sandhagen and Marlon Morice are

808
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:49,960
Speaker 2: on a collision course. Peter Joan has the belt. Now

809
00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:51,839
Speaker 2: Cody is going to go down to one twenty five.

810
00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:54,279
Speaker 2: Now we don't know this because they didn't declare it,

811
00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:58,120
Speaker 2: but it seems like BC that clears a path for

812
00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:00,200
Speaker 2: Al Jamain to fight Peter Johan, which is the fight

813
00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:02,480
Speaker 2: that should have been made. Okay, that's good news. You

814
00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:05,040
Speaker 2: mentioned Henry s hudo. Honestly, here's another thing you should consider.

815
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:07,960
Speaker 2: Forgets the hudo for just a moment. Let's say Cody

816
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:10,680
Speaker 2: Garbrant wins. What's stopping them from having them fight the

817
00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:14,080
Speaker 2: winner of Yan and Sterling, especially if it's Yan, because

818
00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:18,080
Speaker 2: Yan has had beef with Cody, So you could do

819
00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:19,240
Speaker 2: that fight too.

820
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:22,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, for both belts, and then make a inaugural one

821
00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:24,400
Speaker 1: thirty belt on top of that. Yeah, they could do

822
00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:26,839
Speaker 1: what they want. It's Dana Sandbox and by the way,

823
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:28,840
Speaker 1: it's really fun. So at the end, we're not going

824
00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:31,640
Speaker 1: to complain too much about this, so let's keep rolling

825
00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:33,840
Speaker 1: on there. But yeah, shout out to al Joel getting

826
00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:35,839
Speaker 1: that shot. And there is it fair to call Corey

827
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:37,560
Speaker 1: Hant Sanhegan a friend of the show. I think he

828
00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:38,600
Speaker 1: watches us, right.

829
00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:40,320
Speaker 2: Yes, he is a friend of the show. He loves

830
00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:43,440
Speaker 2: Morning Combat, he watches he sends me feedback about it.

831
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:46,239
Speaker 2: He says he loves it. You know he should. It

832
00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:48,640
Speaker 2: tells you he has good judgment. BC.

833
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:51,879
Speaker 1: That's what with you calling him Cody multiple times too,

834
00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:52,439
Speaker 1: So that's great.

835
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:54,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what, I get Corey and Cody and

836
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:57,239
Speaker 2: everything else in between. It's a little too many four

837
00:36:57,360 --> 00:37:01,360
Speaker 2: letter cos floating around here with these millennial types or

838
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:03,440
Speaker 2: a generation Z whatever they are at this point. So

839
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:05,960
Speaker 2: I get them all confused. But I think the folks

840
00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:09,359
Speaker 2: watching this will know better and how to distinguish them. Okay, last,

841
00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:14,440
Speaker 2: by the way, Luke, you ever have a BENCHESCO commanding officer?

842
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:17,400
Speaker 1: No, Jay, what is it?

843
00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:21,120
Speaker 2: Uh? See you?

844
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:23,919
Speaker 1: Tupac would always wrap it up? See how DMNCO it's

845
00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:25,719
Speaker 1: a the word? What's the word?

846
00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:30,080
Speaker 2: All right? Bringing the show? You're bringing the show to

847
00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:31,319
Speaker 2: a screeching halt for this?

848
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:35,600
Speaker 1: Yeah? Please, it's please, Okay, this will yeah, this will

849
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:37,319
Speaker 1: be on the blooper real, thank you? Thanks?

850
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:38,960
Speaker 2: All right, With that in mind, let's get to our

851
00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:41,080
Speaker 2: fifth and final point. If you're just joining us for

852
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:43,800
Speaker 2: whatever reason, understand we're gonna do a whole special on

853
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:46,680
Speaker 2: UFC two fifty two by itself later this week, but

854
00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:48,759
Speaker 2: we have to talk about showtime and again join me

855
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:52,040
Speaker 2: in BC. I think at like ten for thirty or

856
00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:53,920
Speaker 2: so on Friday. We'll give you the details of that

857
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:57,680
Speaker 2: for the weigh ends, but showtime back in action and BC,

858
00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:00,440
Speaker 2: I gotta tell you, this is what I had circled

859
00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:05,040
Speaker 2: on my calendar. Benavidez taking on and Gulo's super middleweight title.

860
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:08,600
Speaker 2: This is huge now and Gulo not necessarily setting the

861
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:10,720
Speaker 2: world on fire as an opponent. I think he's ranked

862
00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:13,560
Speaker 2: what fifteenth in the division or so. It does have

863
00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:16,360
Speaker 2: a Latino super middleweight title, whatever that is worth. But okay,

864
00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:20,480
Speaker 2: coming off a nice upset over Simms Junior. But Benavitez is,

865
00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:23,359
Speaker 2: let's make no mistake about it, the a side, the

866
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:26,359
Speaker 2: star of the show, twenty three years old. He is

867
00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:29,880
Speaker 2: excellent at angles, left handed body work, He's got a

868
00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:32,759
Speaker 2: piston of a right hand. He is the real deal.

869
00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:35,040
Speaker 2: Holy Field, if you are looking for BC, tell me

870
00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:38,680
Speaker 2: if I'm wrong. The next generation of boxing stars, you

871
00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:42,040
Speaker 2: can't make that list without putting Benavidez on it.

872
00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:45,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, look, David Benavitez is he won a world title

873
00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:46,520
Speaker 1: at age twenty.

874
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:47,040
Speaker 3: Right.

875
00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:50,200
Speaker 1: He's a tall super middleweight who lets his hands go,

876
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:53,240
Speaker 1: loves to throw and bang. Has some highlight reel finishes

877
00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:56,279
Speaker 1: right there. Younger brother, of course, of the Rameraz who

878
00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:58,759
Speaker 1: lost to Terrence Crawford in a welterweight title fight.

879
00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:01,120
Speaker 3: I'm Sorryez not Rimirez.

880
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:04,040
Speaker 1: This is an interesting fight for him. We saw him

881
00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:06,360
Speaker 1: going there against Anthony Durell and win back the title

882
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:08,799
Speaker 1: he lost when he was suspended for drug use. Now

883
00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:09,759
Speaker 1: he's back on track.

884
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:12,560
Speaker 2: And to be clear, I want folks to know, if

885
00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:15,400
Speaker 2: you knew to Benavidez, it was Vada who caught him

886
00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:18,719
Speaker 2: Voluntary Antidoping Association and it was for cocaine. He got

887
00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:20,880
Speaker 2: a four month suspension, not peds.

888
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:23,239
Speaker 1: He was. He was on a plane. Yeah, I'll let

889
00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:26,120
Speaker 1: up again. He's put that behind him. Luke absolutely, But

890
00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:28,520
Speaker 1: Buck Cherry, here's the absolute point here.

891
00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:30,440
Speaker 3: This division has some players right now.

892
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:32,600
Speaker 1: On a big one that everyone circling, of course, is

893
00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:36,319
Speaker 1: Caleb Plant who has a nice marketing push behind him

894
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:38,640
Speaker 1: and also, by the way, might be the best fighter

895
00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:41,560
Speaker 1: in the division. We're gonna find out a slickboxer, a

896
00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:45,160
Speaker 1: big time heart him. Benavidez. They don't like each other.

897
00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:48,040
Speaker 1: So if we are building closer toward having that fight

898
00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:51,399
Speaker 1: in a unification, both guys under the PBC banner, you're

899
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:53,319
Speaker 1: talking about one of the best fights you can make

900
00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:56,280
Speaker 1: in the sport because Caleb Plant is such a studied

901
00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:59,760
Speaker 1: and pure boxer and Benavetez an aggressive guy who.

902
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:01,600
Speaker 3: Walks you down and looks to get you out of there.

903
00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:04,120
Speaker 1: So benavide is gonna have to pass this test against

904
00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:06,440
Speaker 1: a hungry guy in Angulo. But it's all about what

905
00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:09,160
Speaker 1: it could be building toward in the future. And I've

906
00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:11,000
Speaker 1: gone on a record in the past, Luke talking about

907
00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:13,720
Speaker 1: this division one sixty eight. It's fun and talking about

908
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:16,520
Speaker 1: Caleb Plant. I know at times he's gotten that sort

909
00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:18,400
Speaker 1: of like, oh, he's just a white guy that you

910
00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:20,960
Speaker 1: can market. I think he's good enough to be Canelo

911
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:23,960
Speaker 1: Alvarez right now. I've been on that perch, I've been

912
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:26,839
Speaker 1: on that limb. I think he's a special fighter. And

913
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:30,760
Speaker 1: to see Benavitez as sort of that perfect contrast in style.

914
00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:33,480
Speaker 1: If we get to that fight, that tickles me in

915
00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:36,200
Speaker 1: very nice places. Look, I'm fired up for the future

916
00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:36,800
Speaker 1: of this division.

917
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:39,000
Speaker 2: A couple things that would point out age twenty three,

918
00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:41,160
Speaker 2: you might be all asking. Also, you know, how comfortable

919
00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:43,200
Speaker 2: is he in the spotlight? I think the Durell fight

920
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:45,960
Speaker 2: was off PBC. On Fox Fight he looked to be

921
00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:49,920
Speaker 2: in total command. Phoenix native obviously represents you know, with

922
00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:52,440
Speaker 2: USA and Mexico. But to be clear, this is a

923
00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:56,399
Speaker 2: guy who doesn't mind having the bright lights shown on him.

924
00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:58,200
Speaker 2: So that's the first thing i'd say. The second thing

925
00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:00,719
Speaker 2: I'd say is just in supreme town. I indicated his

926
00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:05,880
Speaker 2: double left hand body work is just sublime. Three. The

927
00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:08,120
Speaker 2: thing you mentioned that to me really gets my attention

928
00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:10,680
Speaker 2: is he's a sort of walk you down kind of guy.

929
00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:12,920
Speaker 2: If you go and look at most of benavetez His finishes,

930
00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:15,640
Speaker 2: they're with him pressing an opponent, with the opponents back

931
00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:18,000
Speaker 2: into the ropes and they are just waiting for the

932
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:20,680
Speaker 2: referee to come save them. What's funny about that is

933
00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:24,000
Speaker 2: and Gulo he's much older, thirty six out of Columbia.

934
00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:27,680
Speaker 2: He's not the tactician or frankly as skilled as Benavitez,

935
00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:30,200
Speaker 2: but he has the exact same kind of style. So

936
00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:32,960
Speaker 2: in other words, it's two sort of come forward boxers.

937
00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:34,799
Speaker 2: One a little bit longer in the tooth, coming off

938
00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:37,120
Speaker 2: of a nice upset over on a matchroom fvite against

939
00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:40,640
Speaker 2: Simms Junior. Benavitez, the slicker of the two, the younger

940
00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:42,319
Speaker 2: the two. As I mentioned the A side, all I'm

941
00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:45,759
Speaker 2: pointing out is this one has action written all over it. Now,

942
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:47,200
Speaker 2: the question I have for you, BC is I've been

943
00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:49,440
Speaker 2: struggling with this all morning. I had to call in

944
00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:52,560
Speaker 2: Alboila and my wife in reserves. How do you pronounce

945
00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:55,640
Speaker 2: and Gulo's first name, for folks who may not know,

946
00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:58,360
Speaker 2: it is spelled roamer, like the word rome r a

947
00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:02,080
Speaker 2: m er. I asked my wife and my mother in law,

948
00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:04,879
Speaker 2: how do you pronounce this? They said they'd actually never

949
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:08,840
Speaker 2: even seen that word before, so their best guess was Romer.

950
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:10,400
Speaker 2: Is that how you pronounce it?

951
00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:12,759
Speaker 3: I think in Brazil it's Homer.

952
00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:17,520
Speaker 2: Right, He's Columbian, not Brazilian, so it's you gotta roll

953
00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:18,600
Speaker 2: the r there at the front.

954
00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:22,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I'm not I don't do well with pronunciations.

955
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:25,120
Speaker 1: In fact, I just called Benevitez Romerez about a minute ago,

956
00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:28,480
Speaker 1: so you know where I'm leaning on that. But good fight, Corey,

957
00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:32,319
Speaker 1: as good as as Benavidez is by the way, if

958
00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:34,360
Speaker 1: you're a boxer, if you're aggressive, if you get inside,

959
00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:36,520
Speaker 1: he'll be there to fight. You can hit him, he'll

960
00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:38,560
Speaker 1: hit you back. So we're gonna see an exciting one

961
00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:39,160
Speaker 1: this Saturday.

962
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:41,200
Speaker 2: Last thing I'd say too is if you watch the

963
00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:47,200
Speaker 2: Belletar card on Friday, remember Bellatore and Showtime or sharing assets.

964
00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:49,319
Speaker 2: I noticed something a little bit different. And maybe it's

965
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:51,360
Speaker 2: my imagination. I didn't put up a picture in picture,

966
00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:53,879
Speaker 2: so I could be wrong about this BC. But if

967
00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:56,000
Speaker 2: you look at the first Bellatore show and then this

968
00:42:56,040 --> 00:42:58,520
Speaker 2: one on Friday was the second one, it looked to

969
00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:00,480
Speaker 2: me like they had picked up some stuff from Showtime

970
00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:03,319
Speaker 2: had done. They had more screens, and the lighting those

971
00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:05,719
Speaker 2: like the circle lightings were a little bit more spaced out.

972
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:09,160
Speaker 2: All I'm saying is the first show Belator did, you

973
00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:11,919
Speaker 2: could see a lot of curtain space. The second show

974
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:15,719
Speaker 2: they did looked a lot better. So here's what I'll say.

975
00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:20,239
Speaker 2: If Showtime adds the music between the rounds like Bellatore does,

976
00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:23,120
Speaker 2: or at the end of fights, they've already picked up

977
00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:27,000
Speaker 2: some of the interesting set design, things are looking better

978
00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:29,880
Speaker 2: for that spot in the mohegan sun because remember Belatore

979
00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:31,560
Speaker 2: and Showtime, they're gonna be there a while.

980
00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:36,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean, but do the curtains match the carpet.

981
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:37,719
Speaker 1: That's what the viewers want to know.

982
00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:41,440
Speaker 2: By the way, there are more things happening in boxing

983
00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:44,200
Speaker 2: very quickly. I never know how to pronounced her last name,

984
00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:46,400
Speaker 2: the Norwegian who looks like she has she has the

985
00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:47,879
Speaker 2: and I know you're gonna make fun of this word,

986
00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:49,640
Speaker 2: but I believe this is what it's called a dipthong,

987
00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:51,520
Speaker 2: which is when the A and the e are connected.

988
00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:54,920
Speaker 2: Cecilia Breakhouse. She has a big fight coming up on Dizonne.

989
00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:56,640
Speaker 2: Are you at all interested in this one?

990
00:43:57,239 --> 00:44:00,319
Speaker 1: There's history at stake, so Cecilia break Whos I believe

991
00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:02,680
Speaker 1: how you pronounced it. She has all four walterweight titles.

992
00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:05,120
Speaker 1: She was the first female fighter to become the undisputed

993
00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:08,399
Speaker 1: champion in the modern four belt era, and she's going

994
00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:11,839
Speaker 1: for her twenty sixth overall welterweight title defense going back

995
00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:13,960
Speaker 1: to two thousand and nine. We sort of look at

996
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:17,319
Speaker 1: you know, Joe Lewis's twenty five heavyweight title defenses as

997
00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:20,160
Speaker 1: rightfully a revered mark. So this has been a long run.

998
00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:22,719
Speaker 1: She's in her late thirties. She's been right near the

999
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:24,919
Speaker 1: top in the women's game of a pound for pound

1000
00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:27,400
Speaker 1: performer for now a full decade, so it's going to

1001
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:29,200
Speaker 1: be an interesting test for her. By the way, do

1002
00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:31,759
Speaker 1: you see that all female banger on Saturday in Eddie

1003
00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:34,279
Speaker 1: Hearn's backyard? They did a little bit of bingo there

1004
00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:34,640
Speaker 1: at the fight.

1005
00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:36,480
Speaker 2: I saw an all female banger, but it wasn't an

1006
00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:37,560
Speaker 2: Eddie Hearn's backyard.

1007
00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:41,520
Speaker 1: Well maybe afterwards when they took the ring down.

1008
00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:43,399
Speaker 3: You never know what that guy right, you know, well

1009
00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:44,040
Speaker 3: dressed raid?

1010
00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:46,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, real quickly. We forgot to mention it. It is

1011
00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:50,200
Speaker 2: worth noting something here. How about Corey Anderson Speaking of

1012
00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:53,799
Speaker 2: showtime in Bellator and the Mohegan Sun, Corey Anderson not

1013
00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:57,600
Speaker 2: done with the UFC, asking for his release and getting

1014
00:44:57,600 --> 00:44:59,400
Speaker 2: it now BC. I did not know about this. My

1015
00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:02,359
Speaker 2: producer radio show brought this to my attention. I don't.

1016
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:05,120
Speaker 2: Are you aware of the medical situation that he has

1017
00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:08,160
Speaker 2: been suffering with more recently, I guess a few months

1018
00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:11,560
Speaker 2: ago something like that. He passed out and his face

1019
00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:13,480
Speaker 2: hit the concrete and you think, well, how bad could

1020
00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:16,279
Speaker 2: it be? Dude? It was bad. It was really bad.

1021
00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:19,799
Speaker 2: He posted progress picks from like the initial injury and

1022
00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:22,040
Speaker 2: to develop it almost looked like I'm not I'm not

1023
00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:23,439
Speaker 2: trying to do a bit here, ask where to God.

1024
00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:26,799
Speaker 2: It looked like his face was melting or he had

1025
00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:29,719
Speaker 2: Bell's palsy or something like. It just almost looked collapsed

1026
00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:33,160
Speaker 2: on one side. Now today he looks way better. He's

1027
00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:35,320
Speaker 2: made a great recovery. But he was in the hospital

1028
00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:37,480
Speaker 2: for some time. It was not a good look. There

1029
00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:41,400
Speaker 2: are some indications that maybe some displeasure with UFC doctors

1030
00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:43,840
Speaker 2: may have played a role in all of this. But

1031
00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:47,200
Speaker 2: your thoughts on him signing with Bellator, well.

1032
00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:49,759
Speaker 1: Number one, you know you're most You're most concerned about

1033
00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:52,160
Speaker 1: his health and he did get cleared to return to fighting,

1034
00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:54,359
Speaker 1: and he made, I don't want to say, excuse me,

1035
00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:57,080
Speaker 1: a dramatic turn. But there was a couple months there

1036
00:45:57,120 --> 00:45:59,800
Speaker 1: where he wasn't public with the information that his career

1037
00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:02,279
Speaker 1: was risk for what you're saying. Not too long after

1038
00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:04,480
Speaker 1: his knockout lost to Jan Blohowitz. If you read that

1039
00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:07,840
Speaker 1: lengthy Instagram post that he put out there, he did collapse.

1040
00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:10,719
Speaker 1: They were wondering if it was concussion induced. His whole

1041
00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:13,839
Speaker 1: career was looking to be in trouble. Great to see

1042
00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:17,040
Speaker 1: that he's back. Great to see a very rare occurrence.

1043
00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:19,279
Speaker 1: Look very rare that somebody in the midst of a

1044
00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:22,879
Speaker 1: UFC contract can essentially say I want out, I want

1045
00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:26,200
Speaker 1: to sign with the competitor, and all sides basically say okay,

1046
00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:28,480
Speaker 1: And that's what he did. He got released in the middle.

1047
00:46:28,520 --> 00:46:31,160
Speaker 1: He wasn't a free agent sign with Bellator, and obviously

1048
00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:34,200
Speaker 1: from a fighting standpoint, he's still in his physical prime

1049
00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:36,200
Speaker 1: at age thirty. This is a big boost to that

1050
00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:38,960
Speaker 1: light heavyweight division. When you consider you have a Ryan Bader,

1051
00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:41,719
Speaker 1: you have somebody like Musasi who's the middleweight champ but

1052
00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:44,120
Speaker 1: can move up. You've got Leota Machida's you know, you

1053
00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:47,200
Speaker 1: got names, whether they be you know, ex UFC stars

1054
00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:50,120
Speaker 1: or some rising guys where you can make some fun fights.

1055
00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:52,920
Speaker 1: And he's instantly a player in that division. When you

1056
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:56,279
Speaker 1: consider that his knockout lost to Blahoicz came after a

1057
00:46:56,320 --> 00:46:59,400
Speaker 1: pretty impressive wind streak. Now, as long as he's physically okay,

1058
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:03,600
Speaker 1: it's a plus. It's a plus for all parties. I

1059
00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:06,680
Speaker 1: just wonder, Luke, how it ended right, because if you

1060
00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:10,120
Speaker 1: look at that ig post like you teas to. There

1061
00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:14,240
Speaker 1: was some unhappiness with the way he felt UFC doctors

1062
00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:16,360
Speaker 1: dealt with him in the aftermath of his loss, that

1063
00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:18,680
Speaker 1: he didn't get the coverage he needed. I wonder if

1064
00:47:18,680 --> 00:47:21,080
Speaker 1: that was part of the conversation when he decided to

1065
00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:24,200
Speaker 1: ask to be let go and they essentially said yes.

1066
00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:26,720
Speaker 1: Now we do know that Dana White wasn't the biggest

1067
00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:29,360
Speaker 1: Corey Anderson fan didn't love that time that he showed

1068
00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:31,439
Speaker 1: up at what that Trading card show in New Jersey

1069
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:33,680
Speaker 1: and tried to fight John Jones right there to get

1070
00:47:33,719 --> 00:47:35,439
Speaker 1: on the radar, which was an aggressive move.

1071
00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:37,520
Speaker 3: I don't really know the details, but I.

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00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:39,720
Speaker 1: Do know it's a big win for all parties, including

1073
00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:42,800
Speaker 1: Corey Anderson, who, you know, it was on the outside

1074
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:44,800
Speaker 1: looking in in that division at that moment.

1075
00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:48,200
Speaker 2: It's a great restart. It's somebody that Ryan Bader could

1076
00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:52,200
Speaker 2: have a competitive fight against him. He blew through that

1077
00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:54,560
Speaker 2: heavyweight tournament. Did he take a punch in the entire

1078
00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:57,239
Speaker 2: heavyweight tournament? I don't know that he did, maybe one

1079
00:47:57,440 --> 00:48:00,800
Speaker 2: or two or something something ridiculous. Ry Anderson is a

1080
00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:03,920
Speaker 2: legitimate threat to him. Does he beat Ryan Bader? Probably not.

1081
00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:06,319
Speaker 2: I don't know, but you're right. People think of him

1082
00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:08,720
Speaker 2: as like thirty six, thirty seven. He's thirty. He's thirty.

1083
00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:11,120
Speaker 2: The guy's been doing this for a long time. Yes,

1084
00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:13,960
Speaker 2: but he's only now coming into his physical prime. And

1085
00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:15,960
Speaker 2: I think in bellatore where in general it's not as

1086
00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:18,560
Speaker 2: deep as UFC, but at the top a Nemkov, if

1087
00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:20,759
Speaker 2: he ends up beating Bader or a Bator, these could

1088
00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:23,480
Speaker 2: be really interesting fights for him. It's a good career restart.

1089
00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:25,799
Speaker 2: It's good for you for Belltour to get a sort

1090
00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:29,120
Speaker 2: of a high caliber talent in the way that he is.

1091
00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:31,920
Speaker 2: And you know, having lived through the Trent Williams saga

1092
00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:34,799
Speaker 2: with the Washington football team here in DC, man when

1093
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:38,080
Speaker 2: an athlete no longer trust the medical staff in an organization,

1094
00:48:38,560 --> 00:48:41,239
Speaker 2: that is a hard line to come back across. You

1095
00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:45,600
Speaker 2: lose trust in medical personnel that you have to switch

1096
00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:48,520
Speaker 2: them out to get that person to stay or to

1097
00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:51,160
Speaker 2: believe in them, or whatever the case may be. And yes,

1098
00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:53,239
Speaker 2: you know, Trent william is one of the best left

1099
00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:56,920
Speaker 2: tackles in football. Cory Anderson probably not in the same

1100
00:48:57,080 --> 00:49:00,759
Speaker 2: way as coveted that Williams is for that position. I'm

1101
00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:03,719
Speaker 2: just pointing out, you know, those are hard feelings that

1102
00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:05,600
Speaker 2: do not go away easily, so kind of interesting to

1103
00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:06,640
Speaker 2: see what happened there with him.

1104
00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:08,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely all right.

1105
00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:10,719
Speaker 2: With that in mind, let's do this BC. You and

1106
00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:12,520
Speaker 2: I have been talking to each other. It's time for

1107
00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:16,000
Speaker 2: the viewers to talk to us. It's time for dms

1108
00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:19,319
Speaker 2: from bunks. And I don't know if I got sent

1109
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:23,000
Speaker 2: to the dms here from Corey Corey. Oh yes you

1110
00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:26,359
Speaker 2: did not, Cory, I'm sorry, Gaffney. Uh okay, let's get

1111
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:31,359
Speaker 2: to this up first, BC. From Sam Oakley ninety nine.

1112
00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:33,359
Speaker 2: I was gonna say smoke Ley byby that too.

1113
00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:34,279
Speaker 1: Uh.

1114
00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:36,759
Speaker 2: If stepe A wins the Trilogy fight, which will get

1115
00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:39,680
Speaker 2: to you later this week, does he take DC's place

1116
00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:40,640
Speaker 2: at the goat table?

1117
00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:40,759
Speaker 1: Now?

1118
00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:43,440
Speaker 2: Obviously BC will have a bigger conversation about it, but

1119
00:49:43,520 --> 00:49:44,719
Speaker 2: your early sense is what.

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00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:47,920
Speaker 1: See, this is very interesting. And I've been called a

1121
00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:52,480
Speaker 1: stepe hater throughout my Talking Head run that has coincided

1122
00:49:52,560 --> 00:49:55,600
Speaker 1: with steep A's Heavyweight Championship brain And to be honest, look,

1123
00:49:55,600 --> 00:49:59,160
Speaker 1: I have picked against him at almost every single turn.

1124
00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:02,399
Speaker 1: It's not that I don't respect what he's done, it's

1125
00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:04,319
Speaker 1: just that it's this.

1126
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Speaker 3: Okay, here's what it is all right.

1127
00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:09,040
Speaker 1: When Stepe was about to break the record for heavyweight

1128
00:50:09,080 --> 00:50:11,799
Speaker 1: title defenses and it was May, it was sort of

1129
00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:14,759
Speaker 1: stamped on him that because he was about to do that,

1130
00:50:15,040 --> 00:50:18,480
Speaker 1: he was automatically the greatest heavyweight in UFC history. I

1131
00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:22,040
Speaker 1: didn't think that to be true. Maybe it's an emotional reasoning,

1132
00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:24,520
Speaker 1: maybe it's some other things. It's not that I don't

1133
00:50:24,560 --> 00:50:26,640
Speaker 1: see what makes him great. And by the way, what

1134
00:50:26,719 --> 00:50:30,680
Speaker 1: makes him great are really awesome blue collar intangibles. Right

1135
00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:34,520
Speaker 1: his ability to withstand punishment and come back and keep himself.

1136
00:50:34,520 --> 00:50:36,560
Speaker 1: I mean that rematch against DC and the way he

1137
00:50:36,680 --> 00:50:39,439
Speaker 1: knocked him out and won it was like personified what

1138
00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:43,239
Speaker 1: makes up Stepe who he is. But at the same time,

1139
00:50:43,360 --> 00:50:46,320
Speaker 1: I didn't think, even though his resume is very strong,

1140
00:50:46,560 --> 00:50:49,400
Speaker 1: that it automatically makes him the greatest heavyweight ever. I

1141
00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:52,399
Speaker 1: know it's it's it's a division that has always had

1142
00:50:52,480 --> 00:50:54,040
Speaker 1: issues with anyone putting.

1143
00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:54,960
Speaker 3: Together a long streak.

1144
00:50:55,200 --> 00:50:58,200
Speaker 1: Caine, I think, for my money, still probably the best

1145
00:50:58,200 --> 00:51:00,640
Speaker 1: actual heavyweight in his prim I've ever seen in UFC.

1146
00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:04,520
Speaker 1: Couldn't keep it together. Randy Cotur. Maybe for more emotional reasons,

1147
00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:07,759
Speaker 1: I really have a lot of love for in this conversation.

1148
00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:09,840
Speaker 1: People laugh at me that I even put him in

1149
00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:12,440
Speaker 1: that conversation, but I think at the end of the day,

1150
00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:16,120
Speaker 1: whoever wins this, yes, they are the greatest UFC heavyweight

1151
00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:18,760
Speaker 1: by this point. If Stepe wins, he'll now have added

1152
00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:22,640
Speaker 1: two wins over Daniel Cormier too, all those other former champions.

1153
00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:25,920
Speaker 1: You cannot deny that. But does that put him in

1154
00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:27,080
Speaker 1: that upper table? Now?

1155
00:51:27,080 --> 00:51:28,840
Speaker 3: To remind people what that upper table means?

1156
00:51:29,080 --> 00:51:32,560
Speaker 1: To me, it means who has a stake, a foot

1157
00:51:32,600 --> 00:51:35,360
Speaker 1: in the door in the greatest of all time conversation.

1158
00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:37,560
Speaker 1: And I know some people they don't care, but I

1159
00:51:37,560 --> 00:51:40,040
Speaker 1: don't care if you don't care, because US journalists and

1160
00:51:40,320 --> 00:51:44,120
Speaker 1: fans this is currency to us. To me, it's John Jones,

1161
00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:49,600
Speaker 1: Anderson Silva, GSP, Demetrius Johnson, Fador and I put Daniel

1162
00:51:49,640 --> 00:51:52,799
Speaker 1: Cormier in there when he knocked out Steepe. Some people

1163
00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:56,239
Speaker 1: didn't think that that's fine. Is Daniel Cormier gonna be

1164
00:51:56,239 --> 00:51:58,800
Speaker 1: in there if he wins on Saturday? Yes? Is it

1165
00:51:58,840 --> 00:52:00,640
Speaker 1: gonna be in there if he loses? But I don't know.

1166
00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:04,360
Speaker 1: You know, it's there's a thin line between the goat

1167
00:52:04,360 --> 00:52:07,239
Speaker 1: table and the guys below at the Joseie Aldos, etc.

1168
00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:10,719
Speaker 3: Who are great but aren't in that goat conversation.

1169
00:52:11,239 --> 00:52:13,879
Speaker 1: Does stepe get in that goat conversation if he beats

1170
00:52:13,920 --> 00:52:18,200
Speaker 1: Daniel Cormier a second time? No, he doesn't.

1171
00:52:18,320 --> 00:52:18,800
Speaker 3: I'm sorry.

1172
00:52:18,880 --> 00:52:22,080
Speaker 2: Wow, that's a long winded way of being like I've

1173
00:52:22,080 --> 00:52:24,520
Speaker 2: been accused of being a step A hater. I'm gonna

1174
00:52:24,560 --> 00:52:27,200
Speaker 2: keep that cal Ripkins streak alive today with his answer.

1175
00:52:27,320 --> 00:52:29,560
Speaker 1: I mean, look, Luke, he's an all time he's he's

1176
00:52:29,600 --> 00:52:33,480
Speaker 1: an all time great heavyweight champion. But we have to

1177
00:52:33,560 --> 00:52:36,800
Speaker 1: have levels to this, right, There's gotta be that that

1178
00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:38,719
Speaker 1: that that door at the end of the hallway with

1179
00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:41,040
Speaker 1: the stairway up to the attic that only a few

1180
00:52:41,040 --> 00:52:41,719
Speaker 1: people can go.

1181
00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:45,359
Speaker 2: I mean, here's here's the this is a really interesting debate. Again,

1182
00:52:45,400 --> 00:52:47,520
Speaker 2: We'll have a much longer one on Thursday when we

1183
00:52:47,560 --> 00:52:50,719
Speaker 2: do our special two fifty two episode of Morning Combat.

1184
00:52:51,120 --> 00:52:52,640
Speaker 2: You know, and I think you would agree with most

1185
00:52:52,640 --> 00:52:56,400
Speaker 2: of this. Here's why it's complex. Let's say stepe A wins.

1186
00:52:57,080 --> 00:53:01,879
Speaker 2: To me, he still doesn't occupy the same space as

1187
00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:04,040
Speaker 2: what Fador did after beating cro Cop in what two

1188
00:53:04,040 --> 00:53:06,440
Speaker 2: thousand and four or five? There was just not the

1189
00:53:06,520 --> 00:53:09,640
Speaker 2: same level of looking down at the game that way

1190
00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:12,840
Speaker 2: in which he was. So to me, I'm not saying

1191
00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:15,200
Speaker 2: we can't have a debate about all time best heavyweight.

1192
00:53:15,239 --> 00:53:16,680
Speaker 2: I think it's separate. I think we need to have

1193
00:53:16,680 --> 00:53:19,440
Speaker 2: a debate about best UFC heavyweight of all time. That's

1194
00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:21,800
Speaker 2: a little bit more doable, at least at the current juncture.

1195
00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:24,359
Speaker 2: The other problem for Step that he's up against by

1196
00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:27,040
Speaker 2: no fault of his own, is DC had this run

1197
00:53:27,719 --> 00:53:30,279
Speaker 2: at light heavyweight for basically the majority of his career,

1198
00:53:30,360 --> 00:53:32,360
Speaker 2: all of his biggest fights up to the basically steep A,

1199
00:53:33,160 --> 00:53:35,200
Speaker 2: we're all essentially at well no. I mean, he had

1200
00:53:35,239 --> 00:53:37,520
Speaker 2: the Grand Prix too and Strikeforce, but after that it

1201
00:53:37,560 --> 00:53:40,040
Speaker 2: was just, you know, just long extended to run at

1202
00:53:40,160 --> 00:53:42,839
Speaker 2: light heavyweight and so he didn't get time to build

1203
00:53:42,880 --> 00:53:45,960
Speaker 2: up a heavyweight resume. Now the argument goes, if DC

1204
00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:47,920
Speaker 2: wins and goes two to one against a guy who

1205
00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:51,200
Speaker 2: was the greatest UFC heavyweight champion, it just automatically makes

1206
00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:52,920
Speaker 2: him that way. But there are some people I'm not

1207
00:53:52,920 --> 00:53:54,080
Speaker 2: saying on one of them, but you do have to

1208
00:53:54,120 --> 00:53:57,160
Speaker 2: take it seriously. It's like, is Connor the best featherweight

1209
00:53:57,160 --> 00:53:59,640
Speaker 2: of all time? Yeah, he beat Max and he beat Aldo,

1210
00:53:59,719 --> 00:54:02,319
Speaker 2: but then he bounced. He has no real record and

1211
00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:05,719
Speaker 2: at Party A two, but like, only Max is still

1212
00:54:05,719 --> 00:54:07,960
Speaker 2: in that division, and he didn't beat that version of Max,

1213
00:54:08,160 --> 00:54:10,160
Speaker 2: Like what does it really mean? It does count, but

1214
00:54:10,200 --> 00:54:12,000
Speaker 2: it's not the same exact thing as having this like

1215
00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:16,279
Speaker 2: Jose Aldo long extended campaign there. So that makes the

1216
00:54:16,360 --> 00:54:19,840
Speaker 2: argument tricky as well. For me. If stepe A wins,

1217
00:54:19,880 --> 00:54:22,840
Speaker 2: he is clearly the best UFC heavyweight champion ever and

1218
00:54:22,880 --> 00:54:26,320
Speaker 2: we can have a separate debate about MMA. If DC wins,

1219
00:54:26,760 --> 00:54:30,600
Speaker 2: I probably still in my mind say he was the

1220
00:54:30,640 --> 00:54:32,920
Speaker 2: more talented of the two. But the lack of an

1221
00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:36,120
Speaker 2: actual campaign, a long campaign again not his fault. He

1222
00:54:36,160 --> 00:54:39,000
Speaker 2: was doing it on account of Kane Velasquez. I do

1223
00:54:39,040 --> 00:54:42,279
Speaker 2: think it muddies the debate. People people want clarity on this.

1224
00:54:42,760 --> 00:54:44,960
Speaker 2: I'm not entirely sure you're gonna get it. I guess

1225
00:54:44,960 --> 00:54:45,720
Speaker 2: we'll have to see.

1226
00:54:46,360 --> 00:54:48,600
Speaker 1: So you just still didn't answer the question that that

1227
00:54:48,840 --> 00:54:50,319
Speaker 1: DM or smoke.

1228
00:54:50,120 --> 00:54:54,080
Speaker 2: Ley Jeffs trilogy as he takes. Yeah, but the question

1229
00:54:54,239 --> 00:54:56,960
Speaker 2: presumes that DC's got a place at the goat table.

1230
00:54:57,760 --> 00:54:59,880
Speaker 1: Does and that's that's it. That's an argument to a

1231
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:03,279
Speaker 1: itself right there, But answer the question straight up. If

1232
00:55:03,320 --> 00:55:07,319
Speaker 1: step A wins on Saturday, who cares any other? You know,

1233
00:55:07,719 --> 00:55:10,960
Speaker 1: no other? Put everything aside. If step A wins on Saturday,

1234
00:55:11,040 --> 00:55:13,279
Speaker 1: is he in the greatest fighter of all time?

1235
00:55:13,320 --> 00:55:13,880
Speaker 3: Conversation?

1236
00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:16,839
Speaker 2: No, you mean like top five?

1237
00:55:17,800 --> 00:55:21,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, the upper the damn upper room, the the You

1238
00:55:21,160 --> 00:55:22,040
Speaker 3: have an argument?

1239
00:55:22,520 --> 00:55:27,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, no, he's not top ten, top fifteen, slightly

1240
00:55:27,080 --> 00:55:28,399
Speaker 2: different argument, but not top five.

1241
00:55:28,440 --> 00:55:30,719
Speaker 1: Gotta be levels to this, Luke, Okay, yeah, all right,

1242
00:55:30,760 --> 00:55:33,919
Speaker 1: you can have a nice podcast, is it? Mk Worthy? No?

1243
00:55:34,320 --> 00:55:38,120
Speaker 2: All right, all right? We move on to Alan e Kay.

1244
00:55:39,239 --> 00:55:42,720
Speaker 2: Can Sean O'Malley be c be considered a real genuine

1245
00:55:42,760 --> 00:55:46,160
Speaker 2: prospect if and when he beats Marlon Vera? How many

1246
00:55:46,200 --> 00:55:49,960
Speaker 2: fights does he need to be considered a title contender? Well,

1247
00:55:49,960 --> 00:55:52,560
Speaker 2: he's asking you different questions. Well he goes, oh, is

1248
00:55:52,560 --> 00:55:55,000
Speaker 2: he a prospect? And then he goes, is he a contender?

1249
00:55:55,040 --> 00:55:57,719
Speaker 1: Like, let me send alan Ek to the woodshed here

1250
00:55:57,719 --> 00:56:00,440
Speaker 1: you're asking me, is Sean O'Malley? Can Can he be

1251
00:56:00,520 --> 00:56:02,560
Speaker 1: a genuine prospect if he beats Marlon Vera?

1252
00:56:02,640 --> 00:56:03,279
Speaker 3: He already is?

1253
00:56:03,360 --> 00:56:05,920
Speaker 1: How is he not a genuine prospect? He's a future

1254
00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:07,279
Speaker 1: star he's twenty five years old.

1255
00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:09,840
Speaker 3: He's knocking fools out, so yes, okay.

1256
00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:12,200
Speaker 1: And by the woodshed, you remember that scene in Commando

1257
00:56:12,520 --> 00:56:14,960
Speaker 1: where Arnold jumps into that woodshed and hides up in

1258
00:56:14,960 --> 00:56:16,799
Speaker 1: the ceiling and the guy comes in and he takes

1259
00:56:16,800 --> 00:56:18,360
Speaker 1: that giant machete right to the balls.

1260
00:56:18,440 --> 00:56:21,600
Speaker 2: Luke let off some steam.

1261
00:56:22,560 --> 00:56:23,319
Speaker 1: Yes, thank you?

1262
00:56:23,520 --> 00:56:23,879
Speaker 3: All right?

1263
00:56:24,400 --> 00:56:26,640
Speaker 1: Can he is he a title contender with a win?

1264
00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:30,000
Speaker 1: He is because he is on. I think UFC just

1265
00:56:30,080 --> 00:56:31,680
Speaker 1: threw him in the back end of the top ten

1266
00:56:31,800 --> 00:56:33,839
Speaker 1: right now, maybe for this fight to pump it up more.

1267
00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:38,399
Speaker 1: Marlon Vera a very tough out, incredible, credible opponent. And oh,

1268
00:56:38,440 --> 00:56:40,200
Speaker 1: by the way, a lot of people thought he beat

1269
00:56:40,320 --> 00:56:42,600
Speaker 1: Song you Doong and he got rewarded with a huge

1270
00:56:42,640 --> 00:56:44,600
Speaker 1: fight coming off the loss in which a lot of people,

1271
00:56:44,760 --> 00:56:47,840
Speaker 1: probably the UFC two, thought that he won. Now he

1272
00:56:47,880 --> 00:56:49,839
Speaker 1: gets a pay per view Cole Maine opportunity. This is

1273
00:56:49,880 --> 00:56:53,400
Speaker 1: no like you know, bringing the lamb for the slaughter

1274
00:56:53,520 --> 00:56:57,239
Speaker 1: for the future star to beat. If O'Malley runs through

1275
00:56:57,280 --> 00:57:01,000
Speaker 1: him and does a Anderson Silvan Chris Leeb type of performance,

1276
00:57:01,120 --> 00:57:03,160
Speaker 1: then will go, oh my god, he is that guy.

1277
00:57:03,200 --> 00:57:05,640
Speaker 1: But this is a tough ass out of a fight,

1278
00:57:05,920 --> 00:57:08,080
Speaker 1: and if he wins it, yes, one hundred percent, he

1279
00:57:08,160 --> 00:57:11,480
Speaker 1: is a title contender. Luke, they will have an incredible

1280
00:57:11,600 --> 00:57:15,200
Speaker 1: meaning the UFC an incredible hard time over the next

1281
00:57:15,239 --> 00:57:17,760
Speaker 1: twelve months keeping Sean O'Malley out of a title fight

1282
00:57:17,920 --> 00:57:20,080
Speaker 1: if he beats Vera impressively on Saturday.

1283
00:57:20,280 --> 00:57:22,480
Speaker 2: I mean, let's just be clear about this. Marlon Vera

1284
00:57:22,600 --> 00:57:26,880
Speaker 2: is an excellent fighter. He is a very very credible talent.

1285
00:57:26,960 --> 00:57:29,120
Speaker 2: Colin Oyama has done wonders with the guy, and of

1286
00:57:29,120 --> 00:57:32,360
Speaker 2: course he's naturally talented and hardworking himself. But I just mean,

1287
00:57:32,440 --> 00:57:34,760
Speaker 2: you get the right coach with the right kind of fighter,

1288
00:57:34,800 --> 00:57:37,640
Speaker 2: with the right kind of attitude, and you know, the

1289
00:57:38,000 --> 00:57:40,720
Speaker 2: right outcomes begin to happen more often than not. I

1290
00:57:40,800 --> 00:57:43,720
Speaker 2: have a very high level of respect for Marlon Vera.

1291
00:57:43,840 --> 00:57:47,200
Speaker 2: This is easily, far and away, no doubt about it,

1292
00:57:47,320 --> 00:57:50,760
Speaker 2: the toughest fight of Sean O'Malley's career. You beat Marlon

1293
00:57:50,880 --> 00:57:53,440
Speaker 2: Vera in a way where, let's just say, whatever this

1294
00:57:53,560 --> 00:57:56,400
Speaker 2: means not there's no controversy about it. Like when he

1295
00:57:56,400 --> 00:57:58,360
Speaker 2: gets his hand raised, you knew that was the guy

1296
00:57:58,360 --> 00:58:00,760
Speaker 2: who's gonna get his hand raised. Whether it's a clear decision,

1297
00:58:00,760 --> 00:58:03,320
Speaker 2: a dominating one or a stoppage. Let me tell you

1298
00:58:03,320 --> 00:58:07,120
Speaker 2: something that is a very very that's an elite club man.

1299
00:58:07,160 --> 00:58:11,280
Speaker 2: I take Marlon Vera very seriously. So is he a prospect? Yes,

1300
00:58:11,320 --> 00:58:14,280
Speaker 2: he is already a prospect. You beat Marlon Vera and

1301
00:58:14,320 --> 00:58:15,880
Speaker 2: now you're on the short list. I'd put you the

1302
00:58:15,880 --> 00:58:18,960
Speaker 2: top seven, top eight or so. Still a little bit

1303
00:58:18,960 --> 00:58:21,439
Speaker 2: more work, but you are on the money with this one. BC.

1304
00:58:22,160 --> 00:58:24,120
Speaker 2: If he beats Marlon Vera in the way, let's say

1305
00:58:24,120 --> 00:58:25,800
Speaker 2: that he's been beating opponents, which I don't think that

1306
00:58:25,840 --> 00:58:29,040
Speaker 2: he will, but let's say that he does. Dude, the

1307
00:58:29,160 --> 00:58:30,480
Speaker 2: hardest thing in the world is going to be for

1308
00:58:30,520 --> 00:58:32,560
Speaker 2: the UFC to press the brakes on him, because he

1309
00:58:32,720 --> 00:58:36,200
Speaker 2: is going to be on a rocket ship to the stars.

1310
00:58:36,240 --> 00:58:38,840
Speaker 2: People love this guy. As I said before, he is

1311
00:58:38,920 --> 00:58:43,040
Speaker 2: effortlessly cool. He understands the new generation of fans. He

1312
00:58:43,280 --> 00:58:46,320
Speaker 2: is them in so many ways. He has exciting fight

1313
00:58:46,360 --> 00:58:49,480
Speaker 2: style and look, BC, I don't understand the purple hair thing.

1314
00:58:49,720 --> 00:58:51,760
Speaker 2: Takashi six ' nine does it. He does it. It

1315
00:58:51,760 --> 00:58:53,720
Speaker 2: seems weird to me, but I'm a forty one year

1316
00:58:53,720 --> 00:58:55,480
Speaker 2: old white dad. No one gives a shit what I

1317
00:58:55,480 --> 00:58:57,640
Speaker 2: think I don't know what cool is anymore, but I

1318
00:58:57,680 --> 00:58:59,960
Speaker 2: know cool when I see it because everyone surrounds it,

1319
00:59:00,160 --> 00:59:03,720
Speaker 2: and that dude is cool. Everyone responds to what he's doing.

1320
00:59:03,800 --> 00:59:06,600
Speaker 2: So if you beat Marlon Vera, look out, dude, he'll

1321
00:59:06,640 --> 00:59:08,760
Speaker 2: have a title shot very soon. Again, probably one or

1322
00:59:08,760 --> 00:59:11,280
Speaker 2: two fights after that, but he'll be very close.

1323
00:59:11,480 --> 00:59:14,480
Speaker 1: One to two at most. I mean a seriously, we

1324
00:59:14,840 --> 00:59:18,040
Speaker 1: did brush past. Speaking of forty one, how was your birthday?

1325
00:59:18,040 --> 00:59:20,560
Speaker 1: Did you do? I mean, I had a conference call

1326
00:59:20,600 --> 00:59:22,040
Speaker 1: with you on your birthday, so it couldn't have been

1327
00:59:22,040 --> 00:59:24,880
Speaker 1: that exciting. But did you guys do anything good? Boil

1328
00:59:24,920 --> 00:59:27,080
Speaker 1: to make you the old steak and potatoes or what

1329
00:59:27,560 --> 00:59:27,920
Speaker 1: this is?

1330
00:59:28,280 --> 00:59:30,280
Speaker 2: You're gonna laugh at this, but this is the story

1331
00:59:30,280 --> 00:59:33,000
Speaker 2: of my life. I actually got really sick on my birthday.

1332
00:59:33,440 --> 00:59:37,680
Speaker 2: I had a terrible, terrible migraine and was basically stuck

1333
00:59:37,720 --> 00:59:41,720
Speaker 2: indoors for most of the weekend because I was in agony.

1334
00:59:42,360 --> 00:59:44,200
Speaker 2: So I feel great today.

1335
00:59:45,560 --> 00:59:47,240
Speaker 1: Sorry, I didn't ask you about it at the top

1336
00:59:47,280 --> 00:59:49,480
Speaker 1: of the show when you asked me how my weekend was,

1337
00:59:49,520 --> 00:59:54,080
Speaker 1: and I selfishly had some ready made nostalgic, corny references

1338
00:59:54,080 --> 00:59:56,040
Speaker 1: to sling at you. But Luke, I heard that you.

1339
00:59:56,840 --> 00:59:58,680
Speaker 1: I hope that you feel better. I hope you were

1340
00:59:58,680 --> 01:00:01,200
Speaker 1: able to celebrate yourself, even if it was by yourself.

1341
01:00:02,280 --> 01:00:05,080
Speaker 3: You know, just forty one? Hey, you know what you know?

1342
01:00:05,320 --> 01:00:07,080
Speaker 1: No one gives a shit about your when you're twenty

1343
01:00:07,120 --> 01:00:09,200
Speaker 1: three either, Luke, Okay, you know what's my age? Again?

1344
01:00:09,960 --> 01:00:11,919
Speaker 2: That's what I'm telling you, dude, Father's Day. It's better

1345
01:00:11,960 --> 01:00:15,120
Speaker 2: than birthdays every day of the week, all right? From

1346
01:00:15,880 --> 01:00:21,800
Speaker 2: den gay Fever or something dengi deng yong fa den

1347
01:00:21,800 --> 01:00:25,400
Speaker 2: gay Fever asks what is your most underrated excuse me,

1348
01:00:25,440 --> 01:00:29,360
Speaker 2: who is your most underrated gatekeeper in the history of MMABC?

1349
01:00:31,120 --> 01:00:32,840
Speaker 1: Is it okay to read a Felder right now?

1350
01:00:34,160 --> 01:00:36,120
Speaker 2: In the history of MMA? That's that's the choice you

1351
01:00:36,160 --> 01:00:38,360
Speaker 2: go to. Could you have more recentcy bias?

1352
01:00:38,560 --> 01:00:41,720
Speaker 1: Explain to explain what this question is actually asking?

1353
01:00:41,800 --> 01:00:42,840
Speaker 3: Are are you sort.

1354
01:00:42,640 --> 01:00:45,640
Speaker 2: Of asking who was a guy or a lady who

1355
01:00:45,720 --> 01:00:49,680
Speaker 2: was really good, who only the very very best could beat.

1356
01:00:49,720 --> 01:00:51,640
Speaker 2: But they've got some legit wins and maybe they're a

1357
01:00:51,680 --> 01:00:54,040
Speaker 2: fan favorite in terms of their fight style themselves.

1358
01:00:54,120 --> 01:00:57,960
Speaker 1: Okay, so they're long remembered as a gatekeeper as a gatekeeper,

1359
01:00:58,120 --> 01:01:00,400
Speaker 1: Yet if they were in another era may have been

1360
01:01:00,440 --> 01:01:02,520
Speaker 1: a title contender. Is that the spirit of this question?

1361
01:01:03,800 --> 01:01:06,480
Speaker 2: Or you know they were never the best among their peers,

1362
01:01:06,520 --> 01:01:09,120
Speaker 2: but they were good enough to have respect and maybe exciting,

1363
01:01:09,440 --> 01:01:12,040
Speaker 2: and you knew if someone beat that guy that they

1364
01:01:12,080 --> 01:01:12,720
Speaker 2: were legit.

1365
01:01:13,880 --> 01:01:15,400
Speaker 1: Okay, what do you got? Who do you got?

1366
01:01:16,200 --> 01:01:17,880
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna just do at the top of my dome.

1367
01:01:18,000 --> 01:01:20,440
Speaker 2: You know, one person who comes to mind is Frank Trigg.

1368
01:01:21,360 --> 01:01:24,840
Speaker 2: You know he only had he had bad fights against

1369
01:01:25,080 --> 01:01:29,120
Speaker 2: Hughes or you know, Saint Pierre, but he beat the

1370
01:01:29,240 --> 01:01:32,600
Speaker 2: shit at a Dennis Hollman. He beat Hanato Varissimo when

1371
01:01:32,640 --> 01:01:35,600
Speaker 2: people just weren't doing that he was, and he beat

1372
01:01:35,920 --> 01:01:39,000
Speaker 2: masak up at middleweight, like dude, he was fucking good.

1373
01:01:39,160 --> 01:01:41,440
Speaker 2: But you know, was he the best of his generation? No,

1374
01:01:41,560 --> 01:01:43,840
Speaker 2: he was not, So he'd be a great great name

1375
01:01:43,880 --> 01:01:44,439
Speaker 2: to call out.

1376
01:01:45,560 --> 01:01:47,480
Speaker 3: Ian McCall. How about Uncle Creepy.

1377
01:01:48,160 --> 01:01:49,880
Speaker 2: I hate to say it, but it's probably true. You

1378
01:01:49,880 --> 01:01:52,920
Speaker 2: know he got and he could have been more than that,

1379
01:01:52,960 --> 01:01:55,240
Speaker 2: and maybe to an extent he was, But you're right,

1380
01:01:55,320 --> 01:01:59,520
Speaker 2: based on how the things shook out, I can't say

1381
01:01:59,560 --> 01:01:59,880
Speaker 2: it wrong.

1382
01:02:00,680 --> 01:02:01,560
Speaker 1: How about Clausia?

1383
01:02:05,120 --> 01:02:10,560
Speaker 2: She really a gatekeeper. If you've been in I don't

1384
01:02:10,560 --> 01:02:11,600
Speaker 2: know how I feel about that one.

1385
01:02:11,760 --> 01:02:15,640
Speaker 3: Maybe harsh Cat Singhano. I mean, we can go places with.

1386
01:02:15,600 --> 01:02:19,520
Speaker 2: This, Okay, sing Ghana is an interesting one. Maybe she'd

1387
01:02:19,560 --> 01:02:22,120
Speaker 2: be that way, or you could even say Pina, but

1388
01:02:22,160 --> 01:02:23,360
Speaker 2: the you know, I got.

1389
01:02:23,200 --> 01:02:25,920
Speaker 3: It, I got it, I got it. Keith Jardine all

1390
01:02:25,960 --> 01:02:26,280
Speaker 3: the way.

1391
01:02:26,960 --> 01:02:30,120
Speaker 2: Keith Jardine's an interesting one. Yeah, how sad was it

1392
01:02:30,120 --> 01:02:33,000
Speaker 2: when he beat Chuck Dude? You'd never seen so many

1393
01:02:33,040 --> 01:02:36,200
Speaker 2: sad dudes and affliction shirts in your life. When Keith

1394
01:02:36,240 --> 01:02:37,720
Speaker 2: Jardine beat up the Old One fight.

1395
01:02:38,600 --> 01:02:40,600
Speaker 1: I just watched it for the first time a couple

1396
01:02:40,640 --> 01:02:43,800
Speaker 1: of months ago. Jardine against Sugar Rashad in the Ultimate

1397
01:02:43,800 --> 01:02:44,520
Speaker 1: Fighter Tournament.

1398
01:02:45,000 --> 01:02:48,520
Speaker 2: It's actually people forget how good this fight was. Keith

1399
01:02:48,560 --> 01:02:51,480
Speaker 2: Jardine versus Stephan Bonner that actually was out of the

1400
01:02:51,520 --> 01:02:56,440
Speaker 2: contest too. That was a good one. I would say Forrest,

1401
01:02:56,480 --> 01:02:58,640
Speaker 2: but he won the title, so that's not really fair.

1402
01:02:59,720 --> 01:03:02,360
Speaker 2: Uh So I couldn't say him.

1403
01:03:02,640 --> 01:03:05,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, thinkybody like he won the title, so that's not

1404
01:03:05,680 --> 01:03:06,240
Speaker 1: really fair.

1405
01:03:07,760 --> 01:03:09,760
Speaker 2: Chris Lytle was kind of one of those guys a

1406
01:03:09,840 --> 01:03:10,240
Speaker 2: little bit.

1407
01:03:10,400 --> 01:03:10,920
Speaker 3: Definitely.

1408
01:03:11,120 --> 01:03:12,880
Speaker 1: That's a purple Bonus machine right there, you know.

1409
01:03:14,320 --> 01:03:15,800
Speaker 2: Uh, all right, what.

1410
01:03:15,800 --> 01:03:23,200
Speaker 1: If somebody said, uh, the Diaz brothers. Now they're not gay,

1411
01:03:23,240 --> 01:03:25,920
Speaker 1: they're not gate keepers, they're trendsetters. They're badasses.

1412
01:03:26,000 --> 01:03:29,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, they would be if they played the UFC's games.

1413
01:03:29,800 --> 01:03:31,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, right, good point.

1414
01:03:31,480 --> 01:03:32,480
Speaker 2: If they let the UFC.

1415
01:03:34,000 --> 01:03:35,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean the real answer to this question is

1416
01:03:35,640 --> 01:03:38,400
Speaker 1: coyleboy Serrooni. He fits that in every category.

1417
01:03:38,560 --> 01:03:41,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right, right, because that's exactly right. Yeah. Uh uh.

1418
01:03:41,920 --> 01:03:43,480
Speaker 2: And and by the way, until his recent run, I

1419
01:03:43,640 --> 01:03:46,680
Speaker 2: might have said Jorge masbitdol, but I think he's turned

1420
01:03:46,680 --> 01:03:48,720
Speaker 2: things around. And really not that he didn't have a

1421
01:03:48,720 --> 01:03:51,360
Speaker 2: shitload of ability, but he just couldn't quite get the

1422
01:03:51,480 --> 01:03:53,800
Speaker 2: W when you thought he needed it. But now he's

1423
01:03:53,800 --> 01:03:57,000
Speaker 2: got him, so it's a little bit different. Okay, this

1424
01:03:57,080 --> 01:03:59,720
Speaker 2: is a weird one from at Slickman two five three

1425
01:03:59,760 --> 01:04:02,280
Speaker 2: be see do you guys? Did you guys rather hear

1426
01:04:02,600 --> 01:04:05,480
Speaker 2: they spilled it wrong? It's Comzot not Cosmo Jamaya. I

1427
01:04:05,480 --> 01:04:09,680
Speaker 2: think that's right. Uh say. In twenty eighteen, after Connor

1428
01:04:09,720 --> 01:04:12,440
Speaker 2: insulted Kuldbeb, he tried to fly to Ireland to beat

1429
01:04:12,520 --> 01:04:14,600
Speaker 2: up Connor, but he was arrested instead. Yeah, that's a

1430
01:04:14,600 --> 01:04:16,720
Speaker 2: weird story. It's like I went to go fuck you up,

1431
01:04:17,040 --> 01:04:20,040
Speaker 2: but I couldn't get I couldn't get past customs. So

1432
01:04:21,160 --> 01:04:24,160
Speaker 2: take that or something. I don't know what to me.

1433
01:04:24,280 --> 01:04:26,760
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't do I believe it?

1434
01:04:27,720 --> 01:04:31,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, those are the them hoes are are loyal, Luke.

1435
01:04:31,800 --> 01:04:35,360
Speaker 1: Okay them them guys will will kill for their brethren. Okay,

1436
01:04:35,400 --> 01:04:36,880
Speaker 1: we saw it two two nine.

1437
01:04:36,720 --> 01:04:42,720
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, they they mean business. They operate on an

1438
01:04:42,760 --> 01:04:46,800
Speaker 2: honor society, not a not a dignity society sort of base.

1439
01:04:46,920 --> 01:04:48,360
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, you can crack jokes all you

1440
01:04:48,440 --> 01:04:51,400
Speaker 1: want on this show. You disrespect them, then I knock

1441
01:04:51,440 --> 01:04:53,400
Speaker 1: on your door Luke. Okay, what are you gonna do?

1442
01:04:53,440 --> 01:04:53,680
Speaker 2: Now?

1443
01:04:54,120 --> 01:04:54,440
Speaker 1: All right?

1444
01:04:54,960 --> 01:04:55,520
Speaker 2: So what are you gonna do?

1445
01:04:55,560 --> 01:04:57,480
Speaker 1: You can take them, you can take them down. What

1446
01:04:57,520 --> 01:04:57,960
Speaker 1: are you gonna do?

1447
01:04:58,040 --> 01:04:58,240
Speaker 2: Luke?

1448
01:04:58,240 --> 01:04:58,560
Speaker 1: Okay?

1449
01:04:58,760 --> 01:05:01,320
Speaker 3: What what do you got? What are you gonna saluev

1450
01:05:01,800 --> 01:05:02,960
Speaker 3: crank them? What do you got?

1451
01:05:03,640 --> 01:05:07,880
Speaker 2: Sulov? You mean a Marulov? Yeah, who died in prison.

1452
01:05:07,920 --> 01:05:10,479
Speaker 2: By the way, you know he died in prison, right?

1453
01:05:11,480 --> 01:05:12,280
Speaker 3: I do not know that?

1454
01:05:12,440 --> 01:05:14,880
Speaker 2: No? Yeah, he had stomach cancer and died in prison.

1455
01:05:14,920 --> 01:05:16,640
Speaker 2: He turned out to be a hitman for the mob.

1456
01:05:17,640 --> 01:05:18,400
Speaker 2: Did you know that.

1457
01:05:18,400 --> 01:05:20,240
Speaker 3: Luke, I did not know that either.

1458
01:05:20,360 --> 01:05:20,640
Speaker 1: Wow.

1459
01:05:20,840 --> 01:05:22,680
Speaker 3: Wow? Did he work with Ian Heinish?

1460
01:05:22,720 --> 01:05:23,320
Speaker 2: Hey a little?

1461
01:05:24,880 --> 01:05:27,320
Speaker 1: Would you there's a legitimate question because you've been in

1462
01:05:27,400 --> 01:05:29,360
Speaker 1: bar fights. You you ragged all that guy in a

1463
01:05:29,400 --> 01:05:31,520
Speaker 1: wife beater that time and ended his life.

1464
01:05:32,520 --> 01:05:35,680
Speaker 3: Would you ever shoot in a in a bar fight?

1465
01:05:36,160 --> 01:05:38,360
Speaker 1: Would there be a situation where you would I'm not

1466
01:05:38,400 --> 01:05:39,640
Speaker 1: talking about firearms.

1467
01:05:40,160 --> 01:05:43,000
Speaker 2: I you mean like a wrestling shot.

1468
01:05:43,240 --> 01:05:45,000
Speaker 1: Would you go for a double legg.

1469
01:05:44,880 --> 01:05:47,760
Speaker 2: Yes, double leg? No body lock? Sure?

1470
01:05:49,280 --> 01:05:51,000
Speaker 3: Like a standing clinch.

1471
01:05:51,160 --> 01:05:54,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, like around the waist or high around the shoulders. Yeah, sure,

1472
01:05:55,120 --> 01:05:59,000
Speaker 2: under hooks or over hooks, h under hooks. All was

1473
01:05:59,040 --> 01:06:01,720
Speaker 2: inside controls. All was better. You can remove people from

1474
01:06:01,800 --> 01:06:04,200
Speaker 2: bars that way if they're like trying to fight somebody else,

1475
01:06:04,400 --> 01:06:04,880
Speaker 2: it's great.

1476
01:06:05,200 --> 01:06:07,000
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, all.

1477
01:06:06,960 --> 01:06:07,520
Speaker 2: Right, last.

1478
01:06:09,240 --> 01:06:09,920
Speaker 1: No, I was I was.

1479
01:06:10,080 --> 01:06:11,400
Speaker 3: I was creating scenarios, Luke.

1480
01:06:11,440 --> 01:06:14,360
Speaker 1: If I came up behind you at a bar and

1481
01:06:14,440 --> 01:06:19,400
Speaker 1: apply to rear naked, yes, would you go tapper nap?

1482
01:06:20,320 --> 01:06:22,919
Speaker 2: Uh? You would go flat to your back and it'd

1483
01:06:22,920 --> 01:06:24,880
Speaker 2: be the worst mistake of your life. Let me let

1484
01:06:24,960 --> 01:06:27,760
Speaker 2: me just assure you. Uh, okay, we'll.

1485
01:06:27,600 --> 01:06:29,720
Speaker 1: See, we'll see, Luke, We'll see when you least expect it.

1486
01:06:29,760 --> 01:06:30,120
Speaker 1: We'll see.

1487
01:06:30,440 --> 01:06:32,040
Speaker 2: Let me say something. You want me to break your

1488
01:06:32,080 --> 01:06:34,720
Speaker 2: ribs by crashing on top of you, I highly encourage

1489
01:06:34,720 --> 01:06:36,720
Speaker 2: you to try it. All right, Let's do.

1490
01:06:36,720 --> 01:06:39,120
Speaker 1: This, Uke, We'll see, We'll see.

1491
01:06:39,480 --> 01:06:47,880
Speaker 2: All right. From these fucking names Anti Rain and ant

1492
01:06:48,680 --> 01:06:53,120
Speaker 2: ira In and from Antifa. If you had to go

1493
01:06:53,200 --> 01:06:56,400
Speaker 2: through the rest of your life wearing Seinfeld's clothes or

1494
01:06:56,440 --> 01:07:00,760
Speaker 2: having Seinfeld's hair from the nineties, would would you choose?

1495
01:07:00,840 --> 01:07:07,880
Speaker 2: Bc Uh, you gotta go, you gotta go hair. And

1496
01:07:07,920 --> 01:07:10,840
Speaker 2: here's why, because you can just always shave your head.

1497
01:07:11,320 --> 01:07:14,360
Speaker 2: You can't closed spirit. That would break the spirit of

1498
01:07:14,360 --> 01:07:16,640
Speaker 2: the question. The question is the hair style, Luke, Okay,

1499
01:07:20,040 --> 01:07:22,360
Speaker 2: all right. I didn't say I had to have it. No,

1500
01:07:22,400 --> 01:07:23,600
Speaker 2: I didn't say I had to have a style. Let's

1501
01:07:23,600 --> 01:07:25,720
Speaker 2: said I had to have his hair, all right.

1502
01:07:26,160 --> 01:07:28,760
Speaker 1: The question is better said if you were a single

1503
01:07:28,840 --> 01:07:32,800
Speaker 1: male close enough to your your prime, right, because you know,

1504
01:07:32,840 --> 01:07:35,040
Speaker 1: if you're married, I mean whatever, right, I just look

1505
01:07:35,040 --> 01:07:36,040
Speaker 1: at this crappy haircut.

1506
01:07:36,080 --> 01:07:37,640
Speaker 3: I just pissed my wife off with whatever.

1507
01:07:37,760 --> 01:07:40,960
Speaker 1: Luke, Okay, But if you're single, would you rather try

1508
01:07:41,000 --> 01:07:45,160
Speaker 1: to pull off game with Seinfeld's nineties hair or is closed?

1509
01:07:45,240 --> 01:07:46,280
Speaker 3: I think you gotta go.

1510
01:07:47,240 --> 01:07:50,400
Speaker 1: Ah, man, I think you gotta go hair. Still, you

1511
01:07:50,480 --> 01:07:52,080
Speaker 1: still have to go hair. I think you can pull

1512
01:07:52,120 --> 01:07:55,880
Speaker 1: that hair off with a modern clothing set up, get

1513
01:07:55,880 --> 01:07:58,960
Speaker 1: in shape, you know, fix up your grind her profile.

1514
01:08:01,640 --> 01:08:04,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're not gonna win either way. But dude, he

1515
01:08:04,160 --> 01:08:10,080
Speaker 2: had those like dad shoes and like pleated khakis. You're

1516
01:08:10,280 --> 01:08:13,000
Speaker 2: I mean, you know you're gonna spend a lot of

1517
01:08:13,040 --> 01:08:15,120
Speaker 2: time on Eskimo tube dressed like that.

1518
01:08:15,240 --> 01:08:18,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know that you ain't going hard in the

1519
01:08:18,800 --> 01:08:20,479
Speaker 1: paint or the taint, Luke, You're not.

1520
01:08:20,520 --> 01:08:23,559
Speaker 2: You're not going anywhere, Okay, Yeah, no, No, it's gonna

1521
01:08:23,560 --> 01:08:25,080
Speaker 2: be real bad for you. So you gotta go with

1522
01:08:25,160 --> 01:08:28,320
Speaker 2: hair and then just figure something out from there. All right.

1523
01:08:28,880 --> 01:08:31,479
Speaker 2: With that in mind, that is where we now pass

1524
01:08:31,520 --> 01:08:34,280
Speaker 2: the show. Speaking of a taint joke, I can think

1525
01:08:34,320 --> 01:08:36,280
Speaker 2: of nothing better. As they set up to our next segment,

1526
01:08:36,320 --> 01:08:36,960
Speaker 2: take it away a BC.

1527
01:08:37,800 --> 01:08:39,920
Speaker 1: All right, uh woo, let's do it.

1528
01:08:40,000 --> 01:08:41,240
Speaker 3: You know what we do on this show.

1529
01:08:41,320 --> 01:08:44,320
Speaker 1: We scour the globe for the good, the bad, the ugly,

1530
01:08:44,439 --> 01:08:47,240
Speaker 1: the highs and lows of combat sports and beyond.

1531
01:08:47,280 --> 01:08:49,280
Speaker 3: Over the past seven days, it is have you seen

1532
01:08:49,360 --> 01:08:49,760
Speaker 3: this shit?

1533
01:08:50,160 --> 01:08:54,000
Speaker 1: Luke? We are heavy on actual fights from over the

1534
01:08:54,040 --> 01:08:59,320
Speaker 1: weekend in h Y t HS This week, Let's start

1535
01:08:59,320 --> 01:09:02,320
Speaker 1: with UFC Vegas six from the Apex Center.

1536
01:09:03,160 --> 01:09:04,879
Speaker 3: Hello, Benil, dry.

1537
01:09:04,680 --> 01:09:08,040
Speaker 1: Hush, how about spinny shit that worked against red hot

1538
01:09:08,080 --> 01:09:12,040
Speaker 1: Scott Holtzman or hot rod Scott Holtzman or whatever. Ben

1539
01:09:12,120 --> 01:09:14,040
Speaker 1: Neil done that, Luke?

1540
01:09:14,120 --> 01:09:15,160
Speaker 3: How about this.

1541
01:09:17,000 --> 01:09:19,840
Speaker 2: Bro? He was on fire in this fight. Holtzman just

1542
01:09:19,880 --> 01:09:24,559
Speaker 2: got bulldozed. He's a talented guy. But darry USh good,

1543
01:09:24,600 --> 01:09:26,879
Speaker 2: look look just watch dary Use. Look at all these punches.

1544
01:09:26,960 --> 01:09:27,840
Speaker 2: Just look, just look.

1545
01:09:28,560 --> 01:09:31,439
Speaker 1: Even thirty seconds before that, Luke, he landed about four

1546
01:09:31,520 --> 01:09:33,599
Speaker 1: or five just stiff shots to set him up.

1547
01:09:33,640 --> 01:09:35,400
Speaker 3: This was a wow wow.

1548
01:09:35,520 --> 01:09:37,800
Speaker 1: I mean, for a guy that's known for more of

1549
01:09:37,840 --> 01:09:41,439
Speaker 1: the submission highlight reel, is he becoming a real player, Luke?

1550
01:09:41,880 --> 01:09:44,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's actually something called the dry Usch Garden jiu jitsu.

1551
01:09:44,479 --> 01:09:47,080
Speaker 2: Obviously you've made from him. For him to do this,

1552
01:09:47,120 --> 01:09:49,200
Speaker 2: it's just kind of incredible. You still can't get the

1553
01:09:49,240 --> 01:09:53,280
Speaker 2: Barboso loss out of your head with him, but man,

1554
01:09:53,320 --> 01:09:57,320
Speaker 2: when he's on, he is on, He is just incredible. Also, surprise,

1555
01:09:57,400 --> 01:10:00,000
Speaker 2: Herb didn't let that one go at least a little bit.

1556
01:10:00,160 --> 01:10:03,599
Speaker 1: Being on a how dare you come on? Dominic Cruz

1557
01:10:03,640 --> 01:10:05,880
Speaker 1: told me he smells like bitches and cigarettes. Let's roll

1558
01:10:05,880 --> 01:10:08,559
Speaker 1: on to the undercard. Here. Check out a very mulleted

1559
01:10:08,640 --> 01:10:14,080
Speaker 1: Andrew Sanchez sending Wellington tournament to hell with one punch

1560
01:10:14,120 --> 01:10:14,599
Speaker 1: hair Luke.

1561
01:10:14,800 --> 01:10:18,120
Speaker 2: Yes, you know, I don't like the mullet. I don't

1562
01:10:18,160 --> 01:10:20,120
Speaker 2: think it's cool or funny. Again, no one cares what

1563
01:10:20,160 --> 01:10:22,240
Speaker 2: I think. I'm just letting you know. But I'll tell

1564
01:10:22,280 --> 01:10:26,640
Speaker 2: you this. I have heard stories about who Sanchez has

1565
01:10:26,680 --> 01:10:29,000
Speaker 2: fucked up in the gym. You know, guys he was

1566
01:10:29,040 --> 01:10:31,559
Speaker 2: brought into train with and then Sanchez just went to

1567
01:10:31,600 --> 01:10:34,880
Speaker 2: work on him, and it's never quite translated to the octagon.

1568
01:10:35,320 --> 01:10:38,040
Speaker 2: And beating Wellington here in the way that he did

1569
01:10:38,160 --> 01:10:42,360
Speaker 2: certainly is amazing. Not an upper echelon opponent, but I'm

1570
01:10:42,400 --> 01:10:44,600
Speaker 2: telling you man, people have told me, multiple people have

1571
01:10:44,640 --> 01:10:45,880
Speaker 2: told me he's like, dude, you know, it's really good

1572
01:10:45,960 --> 01:10:49,439
Speaker 2: is Andrew Sanchez. I was glad to see him finally

1573
01:10:49,479 --> 01:10:52,080
Speaker 2: live up to that name a little bit here el dirty.

1574
01:10:53,000 --> 01:10:55,200
Speaker 1: Oh, party in the front, violence in the back here,

1575
01:10:55,280 --> 01:10:56,280
Speaker 1: Mike Pyle in the house.

1576
01:10:56,320 --> 01:10:56,960
Speaker 3: I like it a lot.

1577
01:10:57,000 --> 01:10:59,400
Speaker 1: All right, let's roll on one more from this undercard.

1578
01:10:59,600 --> 01:11:02,200
Speaker 1: We saw that guy choke out the bomb out of

1579
01:11:02,240 --> 01:11:03,599
Speaker 1: his shorts a couple of weeks ago.

1580
01:11:03,680 --> 01:11:04,840
Speaker 3: How about Gavin.

1581
01:11:04,520 --> 01:11:07,559
Speaker 1: Tucker getting caught in a choke here by Justin James

1582
01:11:07,760 --> 01:11:10,760
Speaker 1: and removing his clothing to break free. I'd like to

1583
01:11:10,760 --> 01:11:12,160
Speaker 1: see this in the women's game, Luke.

1584
01:11:12,960 --> 01:11:17,400
Speaker 2: His his shorts looked like a can of four Loco?

1585
01:11:18,640 --> 01:11:22,800
Speaker 1: Have you a great call? Yes? Yes, I was like, dude, you.

1586
01:11:22,720 --> 01:11:25,280
Speaker 2: Got to get four loco? How is four loco? Honestly

1587
01:11:25,320 --> 01:11:28,360
Speaker 2: serious question? How in the fuck is four loco not

1588
01:11:28,479 --> 01:11:31,680
Speaker 2: sponsoring someone in the MMA world? That seems like the

1589
01:11:31,720 --> 01:11:32,519
Speaker 2: perfect demo.

1590
01:11:33,479 --> 01:11:36,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, energy malt liquor, I mean that that makes you

1591
01:11:36,520 --> 01:11:38,880
Speaker 1: commit crimes? Yeah, it's the Mickey's malt liquor of the

1592
01:11:38,920 --> 01:11:39,920
Speaker 1: twenty fifth century.

1593
01:11:40,040 --> 01:11:42,800
Speaker 2: Well, hold on, they took out the caffeine. Although if

1594
01:11:42,800 --> 01:11:45,960
Speaker 2: you do what my fraternity brothers did. You open the

1595
01:11:46,080 --> 01:11:48,160
Speaker 2: four loco and this is when they removed all the

1596
01:11:48,200 --> 01:11:51,200
Speaker 2: caffeine and then you dump a five hour energy in

1597
01:11:51,240 --> 01:11:52,519
Speaker 2: it and then you drink it.

1598
01:11:52,680 --> 01:11:55,639
Speaker 1: My god, that's a heart attack, Luke.

1599
01:11:56,000 --> 01:11:57,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's also fun.

1600
01:11:58,080 --> 01:12:00,560
Speaker 1: All right, Hey, that's great. Hey, let's go to the

1601
01:12:00,800 --> 01:12:04,599
Speaker 1: Mohegan Bubble for bellatour two forty three high jinks. Speaking

1602
01:12:04,680 --> 01:12:07,559
Speaker 1: of weird shorts, you see Chris Lenzioni bust out the

1603
01:12:07,640 --> 01:12:11,439
Speaker 1: robe and then the coctacular undies here, Luke, I'm not

1604
01:12:11,520 --> 01:12:13,559
Speaker 1: down for this, Okay, it's just not the way I roll.

1605
01:12:13,600 --> 01:12:14,080
Speaker 3: I'm sorry.

1606
01:12:14,160 --> 01:12:15,840
Speaker 2: Well, dude, you gotta be honest. First of all, his

1607
01:12:15,880 --> 01:12:18,879
Speaker 2: opponent A Jagg's arm just not making the best showcase

1608
01:12:18,920 --> 01:12:22,160
Speaker 2: of himself. Also, here's what you just missed. BC. You're

1609
01:12:22,240 --> 01:12:26,000
Speaker 2: burying the lead here above his waistline. LENCIONI, you can't

1610
01:12:26,040 --> 01:12:29,200
Speaker 2: quite tell from this video he has a cock tattoo.

1611
01:12:29,360 --> 01:12:32,760
Speaker 2: The I'm not exaggerating. I believe the cock. I could

1612
01:12:32,760 --> 01:12:35,519
Speaker 2: be wrong about this. I believe it is ejaculating, but

1613
01:12:35,600 --> 01:12:38,080
Speaker 2: at a bare minimum, it has wings. See those wings

1614
01:12:38,080 --> 01:12:40,760
Speaker 2: on his stomach. They are the wings of a dick

1615
01:12:40,960 --> 01:12:43,160
Speaker 2: tattooed on his stomach. That is not a joke.

1616
01:12:45,600 --> 01:12:48,599
Speaker 1: You're gonna fly it into the hangar anytime soon. Yeah,

1617
01:12:48,640 --> 01:12:51,799
Speaker 1: this is anyway. Those shorts, Luke, they're I mean, they're awkward,

1618
01:12:52,040 --> 01:12:54,559
Speaker 1: but they do add definition, right, I mean, maybe you

1619
01:12:54,560 --> 01:12:57,400
Speaker 1: could consider uh picking one up for this weekend.

1620
01:12:58,000 --> 01:13:01,080
Speaker 2: I'm gonna wear one of those to like the grocery store.

1621
01:13:01,240 --> 01:13:03,439
Speaker 2: Just that and some shoes. See what happens, and a

1622
01:13:03,439 --> 01:13:04,960
Speaker 2: mask and I'd be like, what I got a mask on?

1623
01:13:06,120 --> 01:13:06,439
Speaker 2: All right?

1624
01:13:06,479 --> 01:13:09,240
Speaker 1: Well, speaking of what that tattoo is doing here, Luke,

1625
01:13:09,280 --> 01:13:12,679
Speaker 1: you see this incredible knockout by Valerie Leda on the undercard,

1626
01:13:13,040 --> 01:13:15,880
Speaker 1: just her third profight at att She gets a lot

1627
01:13:15,880 --> 01:13:18,760
Speaker 1: of attention on social media. I forgot her opponent's name,

1628
01:13:18,760 --> 01:13:22,880
Speaker 1: but she was talking ill grung about how Valerie represents

1629
01:13:22,880 --> 01:13:25,960
Speaker 1: women and she made her pay. Luke, that's a hell

1630
01:13:25,960 --> 01:13:28,800
Speaker 1: of a finish. And then we get the victory dance

1631
01:13:29,120 --> 01:13:30,639
Speaker 1: a la betch koheya hara.

1632
01:13:31,479 --> 01:13:33,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know it was a good dance. When Russia

1633
01:13:33,640 --> 01:13:36,160
Speaker 2: Today posts it, you ever watch look at their sports account.

1634
01:13:36,760 --> 01:13:39,559
Speaker 2: Their sports account is like all men's sports, and then

1635
01:13:39,600 --> 01:13:41,960
Speaker 2: the only time they post about women is when there

1636
01:13:42,040 --> 01:13:45,720
Speaker 2: is a degree of in their minds anyway sexual innuendo.

1637
01:13:46,200 --> 01:13:48,200
Speaker 2: And they posted this and I was like, oh, it

1638
01:13:48,280 --> 01:13:50,479
Speaker 2: must have been a hit if Russia Today is posting

1639
01:13:50,479 --> 01:13:52,040
Speaker 2: it this way. Yeah, you know what if I was

1640
01:13:52,200 --> 01:13:54,479
Speaker 2: a little bit boring up to this point, but uh,

1641
01:13:54,800 --> 01:13:56,559
Speaker 2: you know, it's a third profit. It's not gonna be

1642
01:13:56,560 --> 01:14:00,639
Speaker 2: the most amazing thing. Nice crack there to drop her. Yeah, yeah,

1643
01:14:00,720 --> 01:14:01,559
Speaker 2: she's got good hands.

1644
01:14:01,560 --> 01:14:03,840
Speaker 1: You know, the only thing is to Luke, what's with

1645
01:14:03,920 --> 01:14:05,800
Speaker 1: her style? She runs the whole fight.

1646
01:14:06,400 --> 01:14:09,040
Speaker 2: It's takwon do style. You know, you have all that

1647
01:14:09,120 --> 01:14:12,120
Speaker 2: space she has to constantly, Dude, she has a style

1648
01:14:12,160 --> 01:14:14,240
Speaker 2: that's not quite ready made for MMA, and she's still

1649
01:14:14,240 --> 01:14:17,200
Speaker 2: trying to figure it out. But as you've seen, she's athletic,

1650
01:14:17,640 --> 01:14:19,800
Speaker 2: she trains hard, she has a good team behind her.

1651
01:14:20,080 --> 01:14:22,439
Speaker 2: Let's see, you know, three fights in not everyone's John Jones.

1652
01:14:22,479 --> 01:14:24,000
Speaker 2: Let's let's give her some time, so let's see what.

1653
01:14:24,000 --> 01:14:26,559
Speaker 1: She Let's advance it to when they read the decision

1654
01:14:26,600 --> 01:14:29,040
Speaker 1: and she had the gee on, she went at it

1655
01:14:29,080 --> 01:14:29,800
Speaker 1: again here, Luke.

1656
01:14:29,880 --> 01:14:30,680
Speaker 3: So my question is this.

1657
01:14:30,760 --> 01:14:33,559
Speaker 1: She gets a lot of fire from people who say

1658
01:14:33,600 --> 01:14:36,080
Speaker 1: that she's got a very She might have the thirstiest

1659
01:14:36,160 --> 01:14:39,360
Speaker 1: Instagram account this side of Pearl Gonzales, but she claims, Luke,

1660
01:14:39,439 --> 01:14:41,400
Speaker 1: it's not for the men, it's for herself.

1661
01:14:41,520 --> 01:14:44,200
Speaker 3: Are you okay with this level of showmanship?

1662
01:14:44,240 --> 01:14:46,040
Speaker 1: As a father of a daughter, and I'm not trying

1663
01:14:46,040 --> 01:14:48,600
Speaker 1: to crack jokes here, are you okay with this imagery

1664
01:14:48,680 --> 01:14:49,400
Speaker 1: that she puts out?

1665
01:14:49,840 --> 01:14:53,400
Speaker 2: Well? Yes, because I am not a Victorian era prude

1666
01:14:53,479 --> 01:14:57,040
Speaker 2: who wants to regulate the what a adult here does

1667
01:14:57,080 --> 01:15:00,000
Speaker 2: with her Instagram account. It's perfectly fine. I don't care

1668
01:15:00,080 --> 01:15:02,040
Speaker 2: at all. I will say, though, I'm a little bit

1669
01:15:02,040 --> 01:15:05,200
Speaker 2: skeptical of that argument, like it's for myself, it's not

1670
01:15:05,240 --> 01:15:07,360
Speaker 2: for anyone. If it's for yourself, then why post it

1671
01:15:07,400 --> 01:15:10,439
Speaker 2: at all? Like it's social media by default? So here's

1672
01:15:10,479 --> 01:15:13,280
Speaker 2: my thing. It's like, do I believe that there is

1673
01:15:13,320 --> 01:15:16,160
Speaker 2: something about being proud of the way you look, especially

1674
01:15:16,200 --> 01:15:19,360
Speaker 2: for someone who trains really hard? Of course, I don't

1675
01:15:19,400 --> 01:15:21,640
Speaker 2: think that is a bad argument. Do I believe that

1676
01:15:21,720 --> 01:15:26,760
Speaker 2: the entirety of it is for self gratification in some

1677
01:15:26,920 --> 01:15:30,080
Speaker 2: kind of way? No, I don't buy that. I think

1678
01:15:30,120 --> 01:15:33,320
Speaker 2: a key part of it is attracting the opposite sex,

1679
01:15:33,360 --> 01:15:35,439
Speaker 2: and I don't see anything wrong with that. I just

1680
01:15:35,439 --> 01:15:37,040
Speaker 2: think you should be a little bit honest about it.

1681
01:15:37,360 --> 01:15:38,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, i'dan be honest.

1682
01:15:38,479 --> 01:15:39,080
Speaker 3: It's marketing.

1683
01:15:39,200 --> 01:15:41,240
Speaker 1: It is what it is, right, Never trust a big button,

1684
01:15:41,240 --> 01:15:43,800
Speaker 1: a smile. That girl is poison. We actually, though, have

1685
01:15:43,840 --> 01:15:47,400
Speaker 1: live footage of a guy in a gym watching her

1686
01:15:47,520 --> 01:15:49,400
Speaker 1: post dance during his workout.

1687
01:15:49,479 --> 01:15:50,280
Speaker 3: Kaf can we advance?

1688
01:15:51,560 --> 01:15:52,439
Speaker 1: This is great?

1689
01:15:52,520 --> 01:15:53,000
Speaker 2: Right here?

1690
01:15:53,160 --> 01:15:56,000
Speaker 1: Look, I mean you know, that's killing the two birds

1691
01:15:56,040 --> 01:15:57,839
Speaker 1: with one stone right there. You get a good workout

1692
01:15:57,880 --> 01:16:01,200
Speaker 1: in while you yell all right, what is that called, Luke?

1693
01:16:01,240 --> 01:16:02,240
Speaker 1: You're a big You're a big.

1694
01:16:02,320 --> 01:16:05,719
Speaker 2: Uh So this is a this is for your lats.

1695
01:16:05,760 --> 01:16:08,439
Speaker 2: You would face sitting the mat and it would be

1696
01:16:08,520 --> 01:16:11,400
Speaker 2: like you're doing a pull down. Uh. My man here

1697
01:16:11,479 --> 01:16:13,360
Speaker 2: is just working his glutes. What can I tell you?

1698
01:16:14,160 --> 01:16:15,840
Speaker 1: I think he's working more than the glutes, Luke. I

1699
01:16:15,880 --> 01:16:18,080
Speaker 1: think I think he's trying to get the tattoo from

1700
01:16:18,320 --> 01:16:24,400
Speaker 1: LENCIONI Middrift going all right, Hey, PBC on Fox had

1701
01:16:24,400 --> 01:16:26,960
Speaker 1: their first card on Saturday at the Microsoft Theater in

1702
01:16:27,040 --> 01:16:30,120
Speaker 1: Los Angeles, and Luke, check out the trunks on super

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01:16:30,160 --> 01:16:32,040
Speaker 1: middleweight Lennox Allen there in the purple.

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01:16:32,080 --> 01:16:33,320
Speaker 3: Twitter was all over him.

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01:16:33,439 --> 01:16:37,919
Speaker 1: Now we've seen crazy trunks before, Hector Macho, Camacho, Floyd Mayweather,

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01:16:38,040 --> 01:16:42,040
Speaker 1: Gervonte Davis. Where the heavy leather trunks? What about these? Uh?

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01:16:42,240 --> 01:16:45,080
Speaker 1: These look like ropes outside of a private club when

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01:16:45,120 --> 01:16:46,519
Speaker 1: you wait in line. What is this, Luke?

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01:16:47,840 --> 01:16:51,600
Speaker 2: These to me are stupid. But I thought that Gervante's

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01:16:51,680 --> 01:16:55,400
Speaker 2: trunks in the Mayweather McGregor fight. He was there, he

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01:16:55,479 --> 01:16:58,280
Speaker 2: was what the Comaine for that. I think that's right. Yes, yeah,

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01:16:58,320 --> 01:17:01,400
Speaker 2: he His trunks in that one were not They looked

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01:17:01,439 --> 01:17:05,400
Speaker 2: like he had murdered a hairy smurf or something like

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01:17:05,439 --> 01:17:08,240
Speaker 2: he had killed Cookie Monster and then cut him in

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01:17:08,280 --> 01:17:10,840
Speaker 2: half and was wearing his legs as trunks. I didn't

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01:17:10,920 --> 01:17:13,960
Speaker 2: understand it at all. These are stupid, I will acknowledge,

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01:17:14,000 --> 01:17:16,360
Speaker 2: but I don't hate these.

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01:17:16,400 --> 01:17:17,160
Speaker 1: This is ridiculous.

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01:17:17,200 --> 01:17:17,800
Speaker 3: I don't hate these.

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01:17:17,840 --> 01:17:19,599
Speaker 1: I hate when people show up in like the diaper

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01:17:19,840 --> 01:17:22,320
Speaker 1: you know, the old Hector Camacho gay Brizato ones where

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01:17:22,360 --> 01:17:24,800
Speaker 1: you can like see the underwear under Keith Thurman likes

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01:17:24,800 --> 01:17:25,200
Speaker 1: to wear him.

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01:17:25,240 --> 01:17:26,120
Speaker 3: That's not my style.

1725
01:17:26,160 --> 01:17:28,280
Speaker 1: But uh, there's actually a decent fight, big win here

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01:17:28,280 --> 01:17:30,920
Speaker 1: at super middleweight for David Morrell Junior.

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01:17:30,600 --> 01:17:33,120
Speaker 3: There in the black, and we roll on deeper on

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01:17:33,160 --> 01:17:33,679
Speaker 3: the undercard.

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01:17:33,720 --> 01:17:36,960
Speaker 1: Luke a lot of real boxing folks talking good stuff

1730
01:17:37,280 --> 01:17:40,639
Speaker 1: about this glow. This rising heavyweight, thirty four year old

1731
01:17:40,840 --> 01:17:41,759
Speaker 1: Michael Coffee.

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01:17:41,800 --> 01:17:44,600
Speaker 3: He's ten and ozer, Luke, he's an ex marine.

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01:17:44,920 --> 01:17:47,240
Speaker 2: And he is there's no such thing b see.

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01:17:47,520 --> 01:17:51,639
Speaker 1: And he knocked out Luis Eduardopana. This guy could be interesting.

1735
01:17:51,640 --> 01:17:53,920
Speaker 1: Got a late start to his career. Thirty four years old.

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01:17:53,960 --> 01:17:56,000
Speaker 1: Like I mentioned, but if you watch this at all,

1737
01:17:56,280 --> 01:17:58,519
Speaker 1: he can move and he can punch from different angles.

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01:17:58,520 --> 01:18:00,479
Speaker 1: He's not just a banger. He's got a lot of

1739
01:18:00,560 --> 01:18:01,960
Speaker 1: craft going to him. There.

1740
01:18:02,240 --> 01:18:04,000
Speaker 2: Do he box with the Marine Corps? Do you know?

1741
01:18:04,760 --> 01:18:05,599
Speaker 1: I do not know that?

1742
01:18:07,120 --> 01:18:09,920
Speaker 2: Yeah? You know what simpified to this devil dog? This

1743
01:18:10,120 --> 01:18:12,479
Speaker 2: dark green marine here, that's pretty good.

1744
01:18:12,320 --> 01:18:15,280
Speaker 1: I'm talking about all right, Hey, Luke, you have established

1745
01:18:15,360 --> 01:18:19,080
Speaker 1: last week that you hate Sweet Caroline by Neil Diamond

1746
01:18:19,280 --> 01:18:22,120
Speaker 1: and the use of it more than anyone ever. Well,

1747
01:18:22,120 --> 01:18:24,519
Speaker 1: we found somebody who hates it more. Let's go to

1748
01:18:24,600 --> 01:18:28,120
Speaker 1: a bar. I believe this is Scotland. Sweet Caroline comes

1749
01:18:28,120 --> 01:18:29,840
Speaker 1: on and check out that guy who just walked in

1750
01:18:29,840 --> 01:18:30,800
Speaker 1: front of the stage.

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01:18:30,920 --> 01:18:33,719
Speaker 3: He does not approve of this set list, Luke.

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01:18:37,880 --> 01:18:40,479
Speaker 2: That guy is uh, he's from Scotland. But that guy

1753
01:18:40,560 --> 01:18:42,360
Speaker 2: is a fucking patriot. Let me tell you something.

1754
01:18:43,200 --> 01:18:46,479
Speaker 1: What look, this is here totally you. This is I mean,

1755
01:18:46,600 --> 01:18:49,639
Speaker 1: you know PTSD coming in. Just get out of here.

1756
01:18:49,720 --> 01:18:51,479
Speaker 3: Man angry at the world.

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01:18:51,560 --> 01:18:55,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you for defending our country and defending that stage.

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01:18:55,280 --> 01:18:58,080
Speaker 2: Wow, guy, I would buy that guy. Not only would

1759
01:18:58,120 --> 01:18:59,519
Speaker 2: I not throw that guy out of the bar. I'd

1760
01:18:59,520 --> 01:19:01,120
Speaker 2: buy him a.

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01:19:02,080 --> 01:19:04,759
Speaker 1: There is a backstory to hear. Some people were saying

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01:19:04,800 --> 01:19:07,040
Speaker 1: that the guitarists used to bully that dude. He was

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01:19:07,080 --> 01:19:08,680
Speaker 1: younger and he was trying to get paid back. I

1764
01:19:08,680 --> 01:19:11,200
Speaker 1: don't know the full story, but uh, it's fantastic.

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01:19:11,240 --> 01:19:12,479
Speaker 3: You can research it yourself.

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01:19:12,560 --> 01:19:15,679
Speaker 1: Nobody died during the filming of this clip, unlike last week.

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01:19:15,720 --> 01:19:16,599
Speaker 1: So let's roll on here.

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01:19:16,720 --> 01:19:16,920
Speaker 3: Hey.

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01:19:16,960 --> 01:19:19,479
Speaker 1: You know Johnny football, Johnny Manziel getting a lot of

1770
01:19:19,560 --> 01:19:23,080
Speaker 1: flak for his his bad cliff dive video. Check out

1771
01:19:23,120 --> 01:19:25,000
Speaker 1: what he did off the roof of his house. Luke

1772
01:19:25,479 --> 01:19:31,600
Speaker 1: full frontal with the flip. This is fantastic. Do you

1773
01:19:31,640 --> 01:19:32,400
Speaker 1: know how badly that.

1774
01:19:32,320 --> 01:19:32,800
Speaker 3: Could have gone?

1775
01:19:32,880 --> 01:19:36,400
Speaker 2: Luke? You know what, you can't say he's not an athlete.

1776
01:19:36,520 --> 01:19:37,759
Speaker 2: I mean he is an athlete.

1777
01:19:37,800 --> 01:19:40,000
Speaker 1: I mean when you when you got money in a

1778
01:19:40,000 --> 01:19:41,840
Speaker 1: lot of time, you can do crap like this.

1779
01:19:41,960 --> 01:19:43,400
Speaker 3: Right, check out this alternate angle.

1780
01:19:44,080 --> 01:19:45,040
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give him props.

1781
01:19:45,080 --> 01:19:47,280
Speaker 2: I'm a big First of all, how does a guy

1782
01:19:47,280 --> 01:19:50,400
Speaker 2: who plays for the Montreal Alouettes afford a house like this?

1783
01:19:52,240 --> 01:19:53,800
Speaker 1: You know, I don't know. He was always sort of

1784
01:19:53,800 --> 01:19:56,080
Speaker 1: had a little sketch to him going on, right, but uh.

1785
01:19:56,360 --> 01:19:59,000
Speaker 1: I've always been a big fan of number two. There, right, Kelly,

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01:19:59,080 --> 01:20:00,559
Speaker 1: number two, Johnny Man's number two.

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01:20:00,600 --> 01:20:04,439
Speaker 2: Okay, you listen. Here's the thing about him, Him and Tebows.

1788
01:20:04,479 --> 01:20:06,759
Speaker 2: For folks don't want to acknowledge this, but it's really true.

1789
01:20:07,320 --> 01:20:09,519
Speaker 2: They were college football. And what I mean by that

1790
01:20:09,600 --> 01:20:11,559
Speaker 2: is they're clearly neither of them could hack it in

1791
01:20:11,600 --> 01:20:14,600
Speaker 2: the pros. But I was there in New Orleans for

1792
01:20:14,680 --> 01:20:18,800
Speaker 2: the Sugar Bowl when the Gators played the Cincinnati Bearcats.

1793
01:20:19,160 --> 01:20:23,080
Speaker 2: Dude Tebow in college was fun as shit. This guy

1794
01:20:23,120 --> 01:20:25,280
Speaker 2: at Texas A and M was fun as shit. You

1795
01:20:25,439 --> 01:20:29,080
Speaker 2: just guaranteed good time when you watch them play. And

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01:20:29,120 --> 01:20:30,720
Speaker 2: I don't I think folks should acknowledge that.

1797
01:20:31,479 --> 01:20:31,960
Speaker 3: They should.

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01:20:32,040 --> 01:20:34,760
Speaker 1: They should. I mean, look the Rock Dwayne Johnson just

1799
01:20:34,800 --> 01:20:37,240
Speaker 1: bought the damn XFL. I'd want to see Johnny Manziel

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01:20:37,280 --> 01:20:38,280
Speaker 1: as a star of that, onen't you.

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01:20:38,680 --> 01:20:40,479
Speaker 2: Well, this is why these guys got to get paid

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01:20:40,520 --> 01:20:43,599
Speaker 2: in college because they can't play at the next level.

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01:20:43,880 --> 01:20:46,920
Speaker 2: But they played their ass off at that one and

1804
01:20:46,960 --> 01:20:50,000
Speaker 2: they were fun. I think there should be financial rewards

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01:20:50,000 --> 01:20:50,240
Speaker 2: for that.

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01:20:50,920 --> 01:20:52,880
Speaker 1: Well, look, he could have ended his future career if

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01:20:52,880 --> 01:20:54,800
Speaker 1: this had gone wrong. And Luke, we've seen it on

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01:20:54,840 --> 01:20:57,880
Speaker 1: the show before. Can we advance the slide? Sometimes if

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01:20:57,880 --> 01:21:00,320
Speaker 1: you don't have the athleticism of a Johnny Manziel, should

1810
01:21:00,360 --> 01:21:07,800
Speaker 1: not be trying this stuff. Oh yeah, I think I

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01:21:07,840 --> 01:21:08,599
Speaker 1: think he was fine.

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01:21:08,640 --> 01:21:09,880
Speaker 3: He may never walk again, though.

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01:21:10,720 --> 01:21:13,160
Speaker 1: Yeah. Wow, all right, I think.

1814
01:21:12,960 --> 01:21:15,160
Speaker 2: This was I think this was my first episode of

1815
01:21:15,200 --> 01:21:16,439
Speaker 2: me hosting the m M A Hour.

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01:21:19,600 --> 01:21:22,919
Speaker 1: Let's move on. Speaking of fails, check out this amazing

1817
01:21:22,960 --> 01:21:24,920
Speaker 1: skateboard crash. He's just a skater.

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01:21:25,040 --> 01:21:25,600
Speaker 2: Boy.

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01:21:25,680 --> 01:21:26,760
Speaker 1: He said to see you later.

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01:21:26,880 --> 01:21:27,120
Speaker 2: Boy.

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01:21:27,280 --> 01:21:30,519
Speaker 1: Wow? Oh shit?

1822
01:21:31,439 --> 01:21:32,120
Speaker 2: Who did he hit?

1823
01:21:32,240 --> 01:21:34,439
Speaker 1: Is that Marty mcflying back to the future? Jay?

1824
01:21:34,479 --> 01:21:35,400
Speaker 3: Can you Where's Jay?

1825
01:21:35,640 --> 01:21:37,679
Speaker 2: We know what? Man? I feel bad for that delivery guy.

1826
01:21:37,920 --> 01:21:41,920
Speaker 2: That's just some donk delivering fucking ramen on Uber eats

1827
01:21:42,320 --> 01:21:46,280
Speaker 2: and this and this jackass, fucking douchebag skater is running

1828
01:21:46,280 --> 01:21:46,840
Speaker 2: into him, you.

1829
01:21:46,800 --> 01:21:49,880
Speaker 1: Know, Jake back to the future.

1830
01:21:50,000 --> 01:21:50,719
Speaker 2: What is he wearing?

1831
01:21:50,800 --> 01:21:52,479
Speaker 1: Is that the Darth Vader costume from it?

1832
01:21:53,520 --> 01:21:56,160
Speaker 2: I believe I'll tell you this. I'll tell you this

1833
01:21:56,240 --> 01:21:57,200
Speaker 2: much that is that is?

1834
01:21:57,640 --> 01:21:58,360
Speaker 1: That is accurate?

1835
01:21:58,840 --> 01:22:02,640
Speaker 2: He's coming, Haley to the future. I was like, you

1836
01:22:02,640 --> 01:22:05,080
Speaker 2: know what makes this CLIPBC is the skater Watch the

1837
01:22:05,120 --> 01:22:07,559
Speaker 2: back of his head bounce off the pavement here Buck.

1838
01:22:07,800 --> 01:22:10,720
Speaker 2: Oh you know what, I'm glad he got got a

1839
01:22:10,760 --> 01:22:12,599
Speaker 2: little bit of CTE and it makes me feel better.

1840
01:22:13,520 --> 01:22:14,400
Speaker 1: Can we point out.

1841
01:22:14,280 --> 01:22:17,160
Speaker 2: The matching the matching bag on the back of the

1842
01:22:17,240 --> 01:22:18,840
Speaker 2: delivery bike to the outfit.

1843
01:22:18,640 --> 01:22:23,559
Speaker 1: Like that's Look, maybe he's just a COVID truth there here, Luke.

1844
01:22:23,560 --> 01:22:25,479
Speaker 1: Maybe he's just just protecting himself.

1845
01:22:25,520 --> 01:22:28,759
Speaker 2: Right. Yeah, this is America. This is America running into

1846
01:22:28,840 --> 01:22:30,280
Speaker 2: the COVID virus right here.

1847
01:22:30,520 --> 01:22:34,040
Speaker 1: That is true. Hey, Luke, let's check out drunk tricks.

1848
01:22:34,080 --> 01:22:38,880
Speaker 1: They always they always try crazy things. Uh, don't be alarmed, Luke.

1849
01:22:38,920 --> 01:22:42,719
Speaker 1: If she falls head over her feet, don't don't be surprised.

1850
01:22:42,720 --> 01:22:44,439
Speaker 1: If I love her for all that she is. That

1851
01:22:44,600 --> 01:22:45,760
Speaker 1: is successful, Luke.

1852
01:22:45,880 --> 01:22:48,080
Speaker 3: What kind of balls do you need to pull that off?

1853
01:22:48,400 --> 01:22:51,559
Speaker 2: Dude? What sausage fest is she? At? Jesus Christ?

1854
01:22:53,600 --> 01:22:56,439
Speaker 3: That's pretty impressive. I'll tell you to walk away from that.

1855
01:22:56,439 --> 01:22:56,800
Speaker 1: That is.

1856
01:22:56,920 --> 01:22:58,599
Speaker 3: That's not bad, not bad at all.

1857
01:22:59,240 --> 01:23:01,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what, but that wasn't that bad of

1858
01:23:01,240 --> 01:23:04,880
Speaker 2: a tumble because she initiated the fall. But I'm just

1859
01:23:04,880 --> 01:23:09,160
Speaker 2: looking at these dudes and I'm like, yeah, that's dude.

1860
01:23:09,439 --> 01:23:12,880
Speaker 2: One day these people are gonna reproduce BC and you

1861
01:23:12,920 --> 01:23:14,559
Speaker 2: think and then they're gonna you know.

1862
01:23:16,360 --> 01:23:18,479
Speaker 1: Do you think she hooked up or threw up within

1863
01:23:18,520 --> 01:23:19,599
Speaker 1: two minutes after this?

1864
01:23:19,600 --> 01:23:22,160
Speaker 2: This was fine? I don't think the two are mutually exclusive.

1865
01:23:25,040 --> 01:23:27,439
Speaker 1: All right? Hey, hey, Luke, you ever grow up wondering

1866
01:23:27,439 --> 01:23:29,800
Speaker 1: like which superheroes could win in a fight. It's sort

1867
01:23:29,800 --> 01:23:32,240
Speaker 1: of a mythical matchup Monday. We never have an answer.

1868
01:23:32,560 --> 01:23:33,240
Speaker 1: Now we do.

1869
01:23:33,400 --> 01:23:34,800
Speaker 3: Check out this brawl, Luke.

1870
01:23:36,920 --> 01:23:41,439
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, look at the moy Ty clinch from Spider Man.

1871
01:23:41,560 --> 01:23:43,200
Speaker 1: He turned Batman into bitch.

1872
01:23:42,960 --> 01:23:46,880
Speaker 2: Franklin dude, and Robin just stays being a bitch. I

1873
01:23:46,920 --> 01:23:48,840
Speaker 2: don't I've never liked Robin.

1874
01:23:50,320 --> 01:23:53,160
Speaker 1: Key with the plumb though Peter Parker going plumb on

1875
01:23:53,240 --> 01:23:54,120
Speaker 1: Batman there though.

1876
01:23:54,360 --> 01:23:56,320
Speaker 2: Let me just let me say something. Robin is a

1877
01:23:56,360 --> 01:24:00,320
Speaker 2: bitch ass hoe. His character has never been cool. He

1878
01:24:00,360 --> 01:24:03,080
Speaker 2: looks like a fucking one of the elves who makes

1879
01:24:03,120 --> 01:24:06,320
Speaker 2: toys in the Will Ferrell movie. He can't fight for shit.

1880
01:24:06,640 --> 01:24:08,639
Speaker 2: They tried to make him cool in the Bain movie

1881
01:24:08,640 --> 01:24:10,799
Speaker 2: and didn't do fuck all with it because fuck Joseph

1882
01:24:10,840 --> 01:24:14,000
Speaker 2: Gordon Levitt Man, fuck Robin. The best thing that they

1883
01:24:14,000 --> 01:24:17,760
Speaker 2: could do with Robin is get him viciously killed by

1884
01:24:17,880 --> 01:24:22,280
Speaker 2: venom or something else. Fuck Robin, Robin. He's also missing

1885
01:24:22,280 --> 01:24:22,880
Speaker 2: his mask.

1886
01:24:23,080 --> 01:24:24,639
Speaker 1: He's not like, where's his mask?

1887
01:24:24,680 --> 01:24:29,439
Speaker 2: He's not He's got He's got no identity, integrity. He

1888
01:24:29,640 --> 01:24:33,360
Speaker 2: is such a fucking quizzling loser, piece of shit. Always

1889
01:24:33,400 --> 01:24:36,960
Speaker 2: hated however, Black, Yeah.

1890
01:24:36,800 --> 01:24:40,840
Speaker 1: Once props to the sixties Batman costumes like those are

1891
01:24:40,920 --> 01:24:43,679
Speaker 1: those are pretty cool? This is a Robin Black take

1892
01:24:43,720 --> 01:24:44,800
Speaker 1: as the Robin of the show.

1893
01:24:44,880 --> 01:24:45,240
Speaker 3: I take it.

1894
01:24:45,439 --> 01:24:48,160
Speaker 2: No, it's not. It's a fucking Batman and Robin take.

1895
01:24:48,200 --> 01:24:52,000
Speaker 2: I've never understood stood this piece of shit sidekick ever.

1896
01:24:52,439 --> 01:24:54,599
Speaker 3: All right, Hey, let's roll on here to a beer

1897
01:24:54,680 --> 01:24:55,479
Speaker 3: fail of the week.

1898
01:24:55,520 --> 01:24:58,160
Speaker 1: Here. Look, when you're when you agree to shotgun a beer,

1899
01:24:58,200 --> 01:24:59,760
Speaker 1: you do have to be careful to do it right,

1900
01:25:00,200 --> 01:25:05,240
Speaker 1: got a little honor luke? Wowe is I have Yes?

1901
01:25:05,320 --> 01:25:08,120
Speaker 1: I have had dates and like this, yes, yes.

1902
01:25:08,120 --> 01:25:10,519
Speaker 2: See this is what it's like when someone has COVID

1903
01:25:10,560 --> 01:25:15,080
Speaker 2: on the New York City subways and they sneeze got you?

1904
01:25:16,760 --> 01:25:19,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, that is fantastic. All right, Hey, let's go to

1905
01:25:19,479 --> 01:25:23,320
Speaker 1: some family awkward photos here. Can we get Ron Jeremy's

1906
01:25:23,360 --> 01:25:26,599
Speaker 1: brother a shirt? What is why is the child placed? Right?

1907
01:25:26,640 --> 01:25:30,320
Speaker 2: There, Luke, what's up with this dude having just a

1908
01:25:30,439 --> 01:25:35,840
Speaker 2: layer of titties? It's just one layer? Do you notice that?

1909
01:25:36,920 --> 01:25:42,000
Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, yeah, of course you wore the red

1910
01:25:42,040 --> 01:25:45,160
Speaker 1: Stockton shorts there, John Stockton shorts and put the baby

1911
01:25:45,200 --> 01:25:48,040
Speaker 1: in front of it. That's that's just awkward here? Uh?

1912
01:25:48,120 --> 01:25:49,200
Speaker 3: Can we do we have any family?

1913
01:25:49,200 --> 01:25:49,599
Speaker 1: Awkward?

1914
01:25:49,600 --> 01:25:50,719
Speaker 3: Awkward family pictures?

1915
01:25:50,760 --> 01:25:50,960
Speaker 1: Though?

1916
01:25:50,960 --> 01:25:51,559
Speaker 3: Full family?

1917
01:25:51,600 --> 01:25:53,000
Speaker 1: Here? We got any freak?

1918
01:25:53,080 --> 01:25:55,080
Speaker 3: Look at a Dina Howard freak like me right here?

1919
01:25:55,120 --> 01:25:55,679
Speaker 1: Look at dad.

1920
01:25:55,880 --> 01:25:59,519
Speaker 2: Dad's like, yeah, you know what, that's a that's a

1921
01:25:59,560 --> 01:26:00,360
Speaker 2: classy bunch.

1922
01:26:01,120 --> 01:26:02,960
Speaker 1: I know the kids are horrified. But how do you

1923
01:26:03,000 --> 01:26:05,280
Speaker 1: think you got here? Right? You know? Because your dad

1924
01:26:05,360 --> 01:26:07,600
Speaker 1: is shot g the one who put the satin on

1925
01:26:07,640 --> 01:26:08,800
Speaker 1: your panties? Right, you don't.

1926
01:26:08,840 --> 01:26:12,280
Speaker 2: I'm going with that, You're stupid.

1927
01:26:13,680 --> 01:26:18,280
Speaker 1: Okay, let's roll on. Check out this crazy Indian fellow

1928
01:26:18,400 --> 01:26:21,200
Speaker 1: saying boo to the bee here, Luke and stuffing I'm

1929
01:26:21,240 --> 01:26:22,160
Speaker 1: into his wife, beater?

1930
01:26:22,520 --> 01:26:23,200
Speaker 3: What would it take?

1931
01:26:23,240 --> 01:26:24,760
Speaker 1: How much money for you to attempt this?

1932
01:26:25,160 --> 01:26:27,720
Speaker 2: So I'm actually allergic to bees, So there's not enough

1933
01:26:27,720 --> 01:26:28,439
Speaker 2: money in the world.

1934
01:26:29,960 --> 01:26:33,840
Speaker 3: All right, all right, Well, if this doesn't make you feel.

1935
01:26:33,600 --> 01:26:36,439
Speaker 2: Good, how did you not get the clip floating around

1936
01:26:36,479 --> 01:26:38,599
Speaker 2: social media, or maybe you're about to show it of

1937
01:26:38,640 --> 01:26:43,160
Speaker 2: the All Lives Matter guy who just grabs a handful

1938
01:26:43,200 --> 01:26:44,439
Speaker 2: of wasps and eats it.

1939
01:26:45,400 --> 01:26:47,080
Speaker 1: I have not seen that yet. Maybe it'll be on

1940
01:26:47,160 --> 01:26:50,200
Speaker 1: next week's show, Luke. Okay, Well, speaking of grabbing things

1941
01:26:50,200 --> 01:26:51,760
Speaker 1: that are gross and putting him in your mouth, this

1942
01:26:51,840 --> 01:26:54,240
Speaker 1: fella took it one step further and his wife beater.

1943
01:26:54,360 --> 01:26:54,559
Speaker 2: Luke.

1944
01:26:56,400 --> 01:27:01,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's easier way to be These are bees, and

1945
01:27:01,760 --> 01:27:04,719
Speaker 1: there's much easier ways to get a honey sandwich than this, Luke.

1946
01:27:05,080 --> 01:27:08,720
Speaker 3: H Yeah, that guy's gotta be a freak in the

1947
01:27:08,840 --> 01:27:09,719
Speaker 3: in the uh.

1948
01:27:09,600 --> 01:27:12,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, those cannot be bees. Those cannot be bees.

1949
01:27:14,040 --> 01:27:18,000
Speaker 1: You know, one time, about ten years ago, I weed

1950
01:27:18,040 --> 01:27:21,080
Speaker 1: whacked over a bee's nest, Luke, and I got like

1951
01:27:21,120 --> 01:27:23,240
Speaker 1: about thirty of them on me, and I got stung

1952
01:27:23,800 --> 01:27:27,040
Speaker 1: an insane amount of times, and I stripped down to

1953
01:27:27,120 --> 01:27:27,880
Speaker 1: my underwear.

1954
01:27:27,880 --> 01:27:29,360
Speaker 3: In the moment ran.

1955
01:27:29,160 --> 01:27:31,840
Speaker 1: Inside to get the beespray came out and they came

1956
01:27:31,920 --> 01:27:33,519
Speaker 1: at me, and it was like it was like a

1957
01:27:33,680 --> 01:27:34,479
Speaker 1: Rambo moment.

1958
01:27:34,560 --> 01:27:36,400
Speaker 3: I shot them all down until.

1959
01:27:36,200 --> 01:27:38,280
Speaker 1: I ran out of be spray and I ran back

1960
01:27:38,280 --> 01:27:40,599
Speaker 1: in and as I slammed the door of the porch,

1961
01:27:40,880 --> 01:27:43,000
Speaker 1: like ten of them came in and crashed and died

1962
01:27:43,080 --> 01:27:46,160
Speaker 1: right there. Look those they will man up when it's gone,

1963
01:27:46,160 --> 01:27:46,639
Speaker 1: when it's.

1964
01:27:46,479 --> 01:27:47,760
Speaker 3: Go time, they are ba.

1965
01:27:47,960 --> 01:27:50,080
Speaker 1: That is like UFC two twenty nine in the cage

1966
01:27:50,160 --> 01:27:53,479
Speaker 1: right like Kamzat will land in Ireland and come after you.

1967
01:27:53,960 --> 01:27:57,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're the Das Brothers at a World Series the fighting.

1968
01:27:56,720 --> 01:27:59,639
Speaker 1: Event the Jake Shields will take your laptop.

1969
01:27:59,760 --> 01:28:02,519
Speaker 2: Yes one er, remember he took I asked, I actually

1970
01:28:02,520 --> 01:28:04,000
Speaker 2: asked him about it. Have you ever seen the one?

1971
01:28:04,040 --> 01:28:05,880
Speaker 2: What was the so it was like the I think

1972
01:28:05,880 --> 01:28:08,800
Speaker 2: it was the first or second DS counterfight when Jake

1973
01:28:08,840 --> 01:28:11,400
Speaker 2: Shields grabbed someone Starbucks and chucked it at him.

1974
01:28:12,000 --> 01:28:13,479
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, they don't get see that.

1975
01:28:13,479 --> 01:28:13,880
Speaker 2: I don't care.

1976
01:28:14,520 --> 01:28:15,680
Speaker 3: No, no, I haven't seen that.

1977
01:28:15,720 --> 01:28:18,400
Speaker 1: All right, Hey, people think we only show fails. Let's

1978
01:28:18,400 --> 01:28:20,360
Speaker 1: show a great win here. Check out this, uh the

1979
01:28:20,400 --> 01:28:22,479
Speaker 1: frisbee catch of the week. Luke, I'm gonna give this

1980
01:28:22,560 --> 01:28:25,599
Speaker 1: a nine out of ten. That's im.

1981
01:28:26,000 --> 01:28:29,920
Speaker 2: Wow. I think that guy is This guy is like

1982
01:28:29,960 --> 01:28:34,640
Speaker 2: a bootleg Juji Muffu. You know that guy.

1983
01:28:34,880 --> 01:28:37,639
Speaker 3: No, but I'll look it up afterwards. That is great.

1984
01:28:37,720 --> 01:28:39,880
Speaker 1: Wow. First they think they got that on the first

1985
01:28:39,880 --> 01:28:41,599
Speaker 1: take too, dude, perfect, yes.

1986
01:28:41,520 --> 01:28:43,280
Speaker 3: All right, Hey, let's go to the airport.

1987
01:28:43,360 --> 01:28:45,519
Speaker 1: Luke. It's always best when when people are waiting for

1988
01:28:45,560 --> 01:28:47,040
Speaker 1: you when you get off the plane. They got their

1989
01:28:47,080 --> 01:28:50,000
Speaker 1: signs ready because they missed you. Check out this chick sign.

1990
01:28:54,960 --> 01:28:57,719
Speaker 3: I mean, she's honest, right.

1991
01:28:58,560 --> 01:29:00,200
Speaker 2: That's gonna be a fun car ride home in the

1992
01:29:00,280 --> 01:29:01,160
Speaker 2: uber care.

1993
01:29:05,280 --> 01:29:07,439
Speaker 1: We actually have footage of them later that night at

1994
01:29:07,439 --> 01:29:09,839
Speaker 1: a bar, Luke. It is twenty twenty. It's the craziest

1995
01:29:09,880 --> 01:29:11,639
Speaker 1: years of our life. You do need to be COVID

1996
01:29:11,720 --> 01:29:14,519
Speaker 1: conscience when going after girls. Look, I gotta be honest

1997
01:29:14,600 --> 01:29:16,560
Speaker 1: right now. I don't know how single people do it

1998
01:29:16,680 --> 01:29:17,840
Speaker 1: during this pandemic, Luke.

1999
01:29:18,000 --> 01:29:20,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was thinking about that. How do you date

2000
01:29:20,680 --> 01:29:21,160
Speaker 2: right now?

2001
01:29:24,280 --> 01:29:28,040
Speaker 1: Probably just a lot of dry humping, not even.

2002
01:29:29,360 --> 01:29:31,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, that's great.

2003
01:29:31,120 --> 01:29:34,040
Speaker 1: That is a I mean for you, Luke, seriously, all seriousness.

2004
01:29:34,080 --> 01:29:36,280
Speaker 1: You have to respect these people because they're doing what

2005
01:29:36,360 --> 01:29:38,040
Speaker 1: you have been asking them to do.

2006
01:29:38,160 --> 01:29:41,240
Speaker 2: Right, No, I'd rather they just go inside and get

2007
01:29:41,280 --> 01:29:45,640
Speaker 2: the fuck out of my face, all right, Okay, just

2008
01:29:45,640 --> 01:29:48,240
Speaker 2: go quarantine you two losers.

2009
01:29:47,800 --> 01:29:50,200
Speaker 1: And condom could have been an alternative.

2010
01:29:49,640 --> 01:29:52,759
Speaker 2: There, Okay, Yeah, dental damns, those are those are not awesome.

2011
01:29:53,520 --> 01:29:55,519
Speaker 1: Since we showed to death last week, I did feel

2012
01:29:55,560 --> 01:29:57,960
Speaker 1: the burden to come out with some family friendly contact

2013
01:29:58,240 --> 01:30:01,400
Speaker 1: this week. So check out these hung three hungry hippos, Luke.

2014
01:30:01,400 --> 01:30:03,839
Speaker 1: I can't stop watching this video. It's awesome.

2015
01:30:05,080 --> 01:30:10,400
Speaker 2: Bro. You ever read about how aggressive hippos are. Male hippos. Oh,

2016
01:30:10,479 --> 01:30:14,720
Speaker 2: they account for more deaths in like river beds and

2017
01:30:14,760 --> 01:30:18,240
Speaker 2: bodies of water than alligators and crocodiles. They are super

2018
01:30:18,240 --> 01:30:19,840
Speaker 2: fucking aggressive, dude.

2019
01:30:20,000 --> 01:30:22,600
Speaker 3: This guy is destroying these watermelons.

2020
01:30:22,800 --> 01:30:23,839
Speaker 2: They're like Ben Askron.

2021
01:30:24,840 --> 01:30:26,680
Speaker 1: Yeah. Oh yeah, that's fantastic.

2022
01:30:26,800 --> 01:30:27,320
Speaker 3: I love that.

2023
01:30:27,520 --> 01:30:30,760
Speaker 1: All right, Luke, there's a new sport out there you

2024
01:30:30,800 --> 01:30:34,240
Speaker 1: can try out with your friends. Would you ever? Would

2025
01:30:34,240 --> 01:30:35,760
Speaker 1: you ever blow your friends like this? Luke?

2026
01:30:36,320 --> 01:30:40,479
Speaker 2: I don't think this is a COVID approved game. What

2027
01:30:41,160 --> 01:30:42,280
Speaker 2: is this? What is this called?

2028
01:30:42,320 --> 01:30:48,360
Speaker 1: By the way, uh filatio football? I don't I don't

2029
01:30:48,400 --> 01:30:49,320
Speaker 1: really know where to go with.

2030
01:30:49,280 --> 01:30:53,120
Speaker 2: This, Luke. They're not sucking, dude. I mean, I realized

2031
01:30:53,160 --> 01:30:55,840
Speaker 2: you want to make the joke, but that doesn't even work.

2032
01:30:58,720 --> 01:31:02,320
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, right, that's awkward. Speaking of awkward, we're gonna

2033
01:31:02,320 --> 01:31:04,639
Speaker 1: close with this, Luke. I got gassed the other day.

2034
01:31:04,800 --> 01:31:07,800
Speaker 1: A couple times away from where I live in Winstead, Connecticut,

2035
01:31:08,040 --> 01:31:10,519
Speaker 1: and I saw an empty storefront next door, and I

2036
01:31:10,560 --> 01:31:14,000
Speaker 1: was like, what's that called? Look, they're not even fooling

2037
01:31:14,080 --> 01:31:15,679
Speaker 1: around in terms of what they're offering.

2038
01:31:17,120 --> 01:31:18,840
Speaker 2: What would you sell in a store like that?

2039
01:31:20,520 --> 01:31:23,920
Speaker 1: I assumed it was a massage place, but I did

2040
01:31:23,960 --> 01:31:27,719
Speaker 1: look it up and it was it was like hippie clothing.

2041
01:31:28,360 --> 01:31:31,480
Speaker 1: So I don't know, but that's that's fantastic.

2042
01:31:31,640 --> 01:31:34,080
Speaker 2: That is I mean, did you really take that picture?

2043
01:31:35,040 --> 01:31:37,720
Speaker 1: Hey? Yeah, I did that. I took that picture. Yeah, Hey,

2044
01:31:37,880 --> 01:31:39,360
Speaker 1: Karen opened up a new store.

2045
01:31:39,520 --> 01:31:40,719
Speaker 3: Oh what's it called getting off?

2046
01:31:40,760 --> 01:31:41,240
Speaker 2: Oh? Wow?

2047
01:31:41,439 --> 01:31:44,960
Speaker 1: Yeah? All right, you know, yeah, that is that is great? Okay,

2048
01:31:45,439 --> 01:31:46,880
Speaker 1: Well that's really should I have for this?

2049
01:31:47,120 --> 01:31:48,800
Speaker 3: Look, I can't you know, last week it was an

2050
01:31:48,840 --> 01:31:49,519
Speaker 3: all time great one.

2051
01:31:49,560 --> 01:31:50,599
Speaker 1: I can't do it twice in a row.

2052
01:31:50,600 --> 01:31:52,560
Speaker 2: Look, listen, this was a great one. I have a

2053
01:31:52,560 --> 01:31:54,120
Speaker 2: little bit pressed for time, so let's get to it.

2054
01:31:54,160 --> 01:31:56,599
Speaker 2: We have Odds and ENDSBC, What do you have for

2055
01:31:56,720 --> 01:31:58,120
Speaker 2: us on Odds and Ends?

2056
01:31:58,960 --> 01:32:01,160
Speaker 1: I did want to mention quick that PBC on Fox

2057
01:32:01,240 --> 01:32:04,519
Speaker 1: Card on Saturday. Look, they tried to to up what

2058
01:32:04,560 --> 01:32:08,000
Speaker 1: everybody else was doing. They had the fake crowd noise

2059
01:32:08,040 --> 01:32:10,599
Speaker 1: that ESPN had tried out with the top rank cards

2060
01:32:10,640 --> 01:32:11,360
Speaker 1: that I hate.

2061
01:32:11,560 --> 01:32:12,680
Speaker 3: But what I didn't hate.

2062
01:32:12,720 --> 01:32:14,679
Speaker 1: I don't know if you saw this was the fake

2063
01:32:14,880 --> 01:32:17,760
Speaker 1: fans on the boards around them inside the Microsoft Theater.

2064
01:32:17,840 --> 01:32:20,160
Speaker 1: Did you see that, Luke, the PBC on Fox card.

2065
01:32:20,240 --> 01:32:22,360
Speaker 2: I did, Yes, I didn't hate it.

2066
01:32:22,360 --> 01:32:23,000
Speaker 3: It was okay.

2067
01:32:23,800 --> 01:32:26,240
Speaker 2: I'm getting a little bit more used to it, but

2068
01:32:26,280 --> 01:32:28,040
Speaker 2: I gotta tell you, it still feels a little bit

2069
01:32:28,040 --> 01:32:30,200
Speaker 2: like a Black Mirror episode to me. I don't love it.

2070
01:32:31,120 --> 01:32:31,800
Speaker 3: Okay, okay.

2071
01:32:32,120 --> 01:32:35,760
Speaker 1: Decent main event, Walter Wait. Jamal James Tacoma decision over

2072
01:32:35,800 --> 01:32:38,400
Speaker 1: Thomas DeLorme. He's a real player in this division. And

2073
01:32:38,439 --> 01:32:40,240
Speaker 1: I thought this was a good win, Luke, because he

2074
01:32:40,280 --> 01:32:42,640
Speaker 1: would just got into that brawl with Antonio DeMarco and

2075
01:32:42,680 --> 01:32:44,920
Speaker 1: his last one and really gave up his height a lot,

2076
01:32:44,920 --> 01:32:46,519
Speaker 1: and he was in there against a big puncher here,

2077
01:32:46,920 --> 01:32:49,320
Speaker 1: and I thought it was a good win. It's time

2078
01:32:49,320 --> 01:32:51,160
Speaker 1: for Jamal James to get a real test to find

2079
01:32:51,160 --> 01:32:53,040
Speaker 1: out if he's of that ILK. I'd love to see

2080
01:32:53,080 --> 01:32:55,120
Speaker 1: him against an Uga, so Sean Port or something.

2081
01:32:55,320 --> 01:32:55,559
Speaker 3: I know.

2082
01:32:55,600 --> 01:32:58,880
Speaker 1: PBC just announced some Fox fights. They weren't overwhelmingly great,

2083
01:32:58,920 --> 01:32:59,960
Speaker 1: but you know, we'll see what happens.

2084
01:33:00,439 --> 01:33:02,320
Speaker 2: By the way, what's the latest very quickly before I

2085
01:33:02,360 --> 01:33:05,800
Speaker 2: go to my odds and ends on the Lopez Lomachenko discussions.

2086
01:33:06,560 --> 01:33:07,559
Speaker 3: Thank you for bringing that up.

2087
01:33:07,600 --> 01:33:10,479
Speaker 1: Top Ring Data announce somewhat of a fall schedule, and

2088
01:33:10,479 --> 01:33:11,040
Speaker 1: by the way.

2089
01:33:10,920 --> 01:33:11,960
Speaker 3: There's some good ones in there.

2090
01:33:12,000 --> 01:33:15,160
Speaker 1: You want to see the rescheduling of unified Junior waltsaway

2091
01:33:15,200 --> 01:33:18,519
Speaker 1: champion Jose Ramerez against former champion Victor post Stall. That

2092
01:33:18,560 --> 01:33:21,280
Speaker 1: one is gonna be fantastic. Where we stand now for

2093
01:33:21,360 --> 01:33:24,400
Speaker 1: October third is Lomachenko has agreed to the money that

2094
01:33:24,439 --> 01:33:27,360
Speaker 1: he's going to get, but Lopez hasn't. Bob aram and

2095
01:33:27,439 --> 01:33:29,720
Speaker 1: him back and forth on this, Luke, Look, this is

2096
01:33:29,960 --> 01:33:34,559
Speaker 1: outside of Wilder Fury three that we're petitioning for later

2097
01:33:34,600 --> 01:33:36,679
Speaker 1: this year and maybe right on par with the Earl

2098
01:33:36,720 --> 01:33:38,160
Speaker 1: Spence Danny Garcia pay per view.

2099
01:33:38,320 --> 01:33:39,760
Speaker 3: This is the best fight of the calendar year.

2100
01:33:39,800 --> 01:33:42,960
Speaker 1: I mean, look, Lomachenko, teyo fimo is you know present

2101
01:33:43,040 --> 01:33:46,760
Speaker 1: slash past versus future. We have to see this. Dear

2102
01:33:46,800 --> 01:33:49,880
Speaker 1: Bob Araman company, pay that man his money, give like,

2103
01:33:49,960 --> 01:33:52,080
Speaker 1: let's do it. Let's see this, Okay, I need to

2104
01:33:52,080 --> 01:33:54,760
Speaker 1: see this fight. This is a Tao is taking a shot.

2105
01:33:54,760 --> 01:33:57,240
Speaker 1: He's like, fricking twenty one years old, twenty two whatever,

2106
01:33:57,439 --> 01:33:59,479
Speaker 1: going in there against arguably the best fighter in the world.

2107
01:33:59,520 --> 01:34:00,000
Speaker 1: Let's see that.

2108
01:34:00,160 --> 01:34:01,520
Speaker 3: Okay, no more hiccups.

2109
01:34:01,800 --> 01:34:05,120
Speaker 2: Also, the ratings for PBC on Fox were not great,

2110
01:34:06,120 --> 01:34:08,080
Speaker 2: which sort of goes to show you like this idea

2111
01:34:08,120 --> 01:34:10,880
Speaker 2: that like, oh, we'll just watch anything, it's not true.

2112
01:34:10,920 --> 01:34:12,639
Speaker 2: I saw Chris Mannix being like, this is a great

2113
01:34:12,680 --> 01:34:15,879
Speaker 2: time for promoters to start working together, and I would agree.

2114
01:34:15,960 --> 01:34:17,640
Speaker 2: I think to the extent that that can happen, or

2115
01:34:17,680 --> 01:34:20,320
Speaker 2: you can find interesting ways to make the fights that

2116
01:34:20,320 --> 01:34:22,840
Speaker 2: people want. They will watch it, but they're not gonna

2117
01:34:22,880 --> 01:34:26,120
Speaker 2: watch just anything. I think that's a pretty big important lesson.

2118
01:34:26,439 --> 01:34:28,440
Speaker 2: Last thing on this for me, go ahead.

2119
01:34:28,240 --> 01:34:29,880
Speaker 1: Quickly, real quick. I don't know if you saw the

2120
01:34:29,960 --> 01:34:33,000
Speaker 1: Mike Tyson Roy Jones Junior fight. Sources are saying is

2121
01:34:33,000 --> 01:34:36,719
Speaker 1: being moved from September to November twenty eighth, Thanksgiving weekend.

2122
01:34:37,400 --> 01:34:39,640
Speaker 1: There were people like Chris Mannix from the beginning who

2123
01:34:39,680 --> 01:34:42,439
Speaker 1: were like, I'll believe that fight actually happens when I

2124
01:34:42,479 --> 01:34:45,760
Speaker 1: see it. Do you see this as a plus or

2125
01:34:45,840 --> 01:34:48,080
Speaker 1: minus that they want to move it back a couple months.

2126
01:34:48,600 --> 01:34:50,559
Speaker 2: Well, it was supposed to go head to head with Canelo,

2127
01:34:50,760 --> 01:34:53,559
Speaker 2: but now the Canelo fight may not necessarily be happening.

2128
01:34:53,600 --> 01:34:55,080
Speaker 2: So if they were doing it to not go head

2129
01:34:55,080 --> 01:34:57,800
Speaker 2: to head with Canelo, fine, If they were doing it

2130
01:34:57,840 --> 01:34:59,760
Speaker 2: for some other reason, I don't know what to make

2131
01:34:59,760 --> 01:35:01,439
Speaker 2: of it. But the problem is, remember, dude, this is

2132
01:35:01,439 --> 01:35:06,439
Speaker 2: a real story. The FBI rated Jake Paul's home in

2133
01:35:06,479 --> 01:35:09,280
Speaker 2: conjunction with some kind of investigation. In fact, Jake Paul,

2134
01:35:09,360 --> 01:35:11,320
Speaker 2: who's gonna be the comin event, or was supposed to be,

2135
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Speaker 2: was facing misdemeanor charges related to looting in Arizona. If

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Speaker 2: you read the press release from the sheriff's office there,

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01:35:17,720 --> 01:35:22,760
Speaker 2: they dropped the charges to help facilitate the federal investigation.

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Speaker 2: So I don't know what this dumb ass did, but

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01:35:25,640 --> 01:35:27,320
Speaker 2: I hope it's serious, and I hope he goes to

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Speaker 2: prison forever because that would be awesome. But it may

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01:35:32,120 --> 01:35:35,439
Speaker 2: relax we're having funnier, but I'm pointing out that may

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Speaker 2: be in jeopardy too, So there could be a lot

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Speaker 2: of things that are making that a little bit weird.

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Speaker 1: All right, all right, I still don't know what to

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Speaker 1: make of it. Luke I still don't know if I

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01:35:44,280 --> 01:35:45,960
Speaker 1: want it to happen. I want it to be fun

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01:35:46,120 --> 01:35:48,080
Speaker 1: and I want them to say f you Andy Foster

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01:35:48,200 --> 01:35:50,599
Speaker 1: and we're gonna throw hands anyway and go for it,

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01:35:50,720 --> 01:35:51,600
Speaker 1: or I don't know, if I just.

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Speaker 3: Want it to fall apart. Luca, I'm in the middle.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I was so. I said before, I was so

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01:35:56,680 --> 01:36:01,640
Speaker 2: wrong about the Mayweather NASCWA whatever that was supposed to

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01:36:01,680 --> 01:36:02,960
Speaker 2: be and what it ended up being that. I'm just

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01:36:03,040 --> 01:36:04,840
Speaker 2: kind of like, I guess we'll see, but still all right.

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01:36:04,920 --> 01:36:06,439
Speaker 2: Last for me on this and I gotta get going.

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01:36:07,120 --> 01:36:11,200
Speaker 2: Is speaking of Mayweather, Dana White out there teasing that,

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01:36:11,720 --> 01:36:15,160
Speaker 2: you know, Floyd and I are talking. We've talked before,

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01:36:15,840 --> 01:36:18,679
Speaker 2: you know, nothing to announce, but there could be a

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Speaker 2: potential opportunity for another fight or some kind of joint venture,

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01:36:24,160 --> 01:36:26,920
Speaker 2: some kind of something. We don't really have any details,

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01:36:26,960 --> 01:36:31,040
Speaker 2: but Dana did kind of say that things are still

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01:36:31,080 --> 01:36:33,600
Speaker 2: in motion there. I don't know what to make of

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01:36:33,640 --> 01:36:35,760
Speaker 2: that one. Either. I don't know if Floyd is going

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01:36:35,800 --> 01:36:41,080
Speaker 2: to try to do boxing with them or I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what the hell it is, but I

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01:36:42,720 --> 01:36:45,719
Speaker 2: know that, yeah, Dana, see, I'm old enough to remember

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01:36:45,720 --> 01:36:49,759
Speaker 2: when Dana put out a video on versus accusing Floyd

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Speaker 2: of being racist because Floyd had not so nice things

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01:36:52,840 --> 01:36:57,120
Speaker 2: to say about Jeremy Lynn and lyn sanity. And but

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Speaker 2: I guess that's all behind them now and they're gonna

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Speaker 2: work together what that is and when that is, your

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01:37:01,160 --> 01:37:03,200
Speaker 2: guess is as good as mine. But I have to

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01:37:03,240 --> 01:37:05,720
Speaker 2: tell you it remains true to this day. No one

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Speaker 2: is a bigger No one is the He is the

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01:37:09,000 --> 01:37:12,320
Speaker 2: monster that lives under the bed of MMA fans. Floyd Mayweather.

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01:37:12,400 --> 01:37:15,960
Speaker 2: They hate him, but they are they They want to

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Speaker 2: work with him, they want to see him, they want

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Speaker 2: to do things with him, and yet they want to

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01:37:20,200 --> 01:37:23,400
Speaker 2: see him take l's which he never gives them. So

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01:37:24,000 --> 01:37:27,320
Speaker 2: it remains the sort of give and take. But MMA

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01:37:27,400 --> 01:37:30,120
Speaker 2: fans love to hate Floyd Mayweather in ways they don't

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Speaker 2: love to hate anybody else.

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Speaker 1: I'm old enough to remember that time Dana White did

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Speaker 1: that Loretta Hunt rant as well, which feels like ancient

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Speaker 1: ancient history. Quickly. If when you hear that, you're like, okay,

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Speaker 1: maybe it would be may Mac two, which I look,

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Speaker 1: we talked about it before. To be honest, I think

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Speaker 1: a lot of people at this point would be okay

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Speaker 1: with that and would be welcome. What about something like

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01:37:51,680 --> 01:37:54,760
Speaker 1: Floyd versus Henry Shudo in a boxing match at one

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Speaker 1: forty seven?

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Speaker 2: Gives a shit? The Connor is the one that sells that.

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01:37:58,520 --> 01:38:01,719
Speaker 2: You know Floyd too, I mean, but on the MMA side,

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01:38:01,760 --> 01:38:02,720
Speaker 2: you know, what are you gonna do? You have the

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Speaker 2: King of Cringe go up against Floyd. What a waste

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Speaker 2: of an opportunity. At least Connor gets you, you know,

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01:38:07,680 --> 01:38:10,360
Speaker 2: to believe in things even when you shouldn't. Or you know,

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01:38:10,400 --> 01:38:12,880
Speaker 2: he's got his cornerman dressed like turn of the century.

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Speaker 2: You know, uh, barbers or shopkeepers or whatever the fuck? Yeah,

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01:38:17,400 --> 01:38:18,800
Speaker 2: Like he keeps it interesting here.

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Speaker 1: I have no desire, to be honest, though, Floyd fought

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01:38:21,680 --> 01:38:26,040
Speaker 1: tension Nasakawa like he's interested in cashing them checks. You

2203
01:38:26,080 --> 01:38:27,760
Speaker 1: don't care what you think. I mean, you could do

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01:38:27,920 --> 01:38:31,840
Speaker 1: worst in creating some kind of UFC inspired crossover super

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Speaker 1: fight than su Hudo.

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Speaker 2: Right, yeah, but Connor or Bust, As far as I'm concerned,

2207
01:38:37,160 --> 01:38:38,920
Speaker 2: you've got to get the biggest star against the biggest star.

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01:38:39,080 --> 01:38:41,720
Speaker 2: Plus they have history. First three rounds, we're interesting, blah

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01:38:41,720 --> 01:38:44,280
Speaker 2: blah blah. Floyd's older, you get the whole thing, all right,

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01:38:44,520 --> 01:38:45,800
Speaker 2: we got to get out of here. One bit of

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01:38:45,800 --> 01:38:48,880
Speaker 2: a reminder, b see, this is only just part of

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Speaker 2: what we're doing this week Thursday, a special live at

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01:38:52,320 --> 01:38:56,280
Speaker 2: eleven am two fifty two preview show. We're gonna go

2214
01:38:56,360 --> 01:38:58,960
Speaker 2: heavy into that card and get you guys ready for it.

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01:38:59,000 --> 01:39:01,479
Speaker 2: I have a dissect that'll get you ready for some

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01:39:01,520 --> 01:39:03,439
Speaker 2: of the stuff on that card as well. And then

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01:39:03,640 --> 01:39:06,759
Speaker 2: Friday you can join us for those Benevidez and Goula

2218
01:39:06,840 --> 01:39:09,640
Speaker 2: Wayans we'll get you ready for Showtime Boxing BC. We

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01:39:09,680 --> 01:39:11,040
Speaker 2: got a busy week, my friend.

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01:39:11,800 --> 01:39:14,240
Speaker 1: And also look at all the anyone out there who

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01:39:14,240 --> 01:39:15,640
Speaker 1: was a big fan and they should be of that

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01:39:15,720 --> 01:39:18,920
Speaker 1: incredible Outcry documentary on Showtime. We got a little bit

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01:39:18,920 --> 01:39:21,960
Speaker 1: of bonus content coming soon as well linked to that loop.

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01:39:22,040 --> 01:39:26,679
Speaker 2: So it would be already out, but somebody just doesn't

2225
01:39:26,760 --> 01:39:31,719
Speaker 2: know when to call it quits, do they look? You know? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Okay, no comment, no comment, all right?

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Speaker 2: As always, give the video a thumbs up. Subscribe to

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Speaker 2: the channel we're on social media as well, Morning Combat

2229
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Speaker 2: on Instagram. That's where you can get your dms in

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01:39:41,760 --> 01:39:44,240
Speaker 2: so to speak, your questions anyway for dms from donks.

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Speaker 2: That's on Sunday. We put up a post you can

2232
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Speaker 2: put your questions there. Obviously you can subscribe to the channel.

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01:39:50,160 --> 01:39:52,559
Speaker 2: There's BC and Me on Instagram, and there is BC

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01:39:52,640 --> 01:39:56,000
Speaker 2: and Me on Twitter as well, So join us on

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Speaker 2: Thursday eleven am a UFC two fifty two preview, f

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01:40:00,400 --> 01:40:03,280
Speaker 2: A preview and away in special for Benavidez and Gulo

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01:40:03,360 --> 01:40:07,160
Speaker 2: and then Saturday big fights in boxing in MMA, and

2238
01:40:07,200 --> 01:40:09,280
Speaker 2: we're gonna get you as ready as we can for them. BC.

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Speaker 2: I'm super excited. So last thing I'll say about this.

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Speaker 2: If you want to watch that Ben a Vedez and

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Speaker 2: Gulo fight, and why wouldn't you go to showtime dot

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Speaker 2: com right now. You can try Showtime free for thirty days.

2243
01:40:20,040 --> 01:40:21,320
Speaker 2: If you like it, you can keep it. If not,

2244
01:40:21,400 --> 01:40:23,800
Speaker 2: you can kick rocks. But we're gonna be watching on

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01:40:23,840 --> 01:40:26,280
Speaker 2: Friday and Saturday night, excuse me, and two at the

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01:40:26,320 --> 01:40:27,760
Speaker 2: same time, so it should be a lot of fun,

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Speaker 2: all right.

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Speaker 3: Yeah that is Brian Robert.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I do, I gotta I gotta go, I really

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Speaker 2: gotta go. That is Brian Campbell. I'm Luke Thomas. Thanks

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Speaker 2: everyone at Malka in Showtime and until next time.

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Speaker 1: Hey, thanks to Jay, thanks to thanks to Jay Okay,

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01:40:40,439 --> 01:40:42,200
Speaker 1: no I jumped in as you were climaxing.

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Speaker 3: Thanks to Jay.

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Speaker 2: Okay, thank you. Fuck Jay right, I don't care.

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Speaker 3: I don't care.

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Speaker 1: All right, it's your show.

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01:40:47,200 --> 01:40:47,599
Speaker 3: I don't care.

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01:40:47,640 --> 01:40:50,240
Speaker 2: Whatever you want, it's our show. And with that in mind,

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Speaker 2: may all of your gains be loyal

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Speaker 1: Yes,