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Speaker 2: so please subscribe or you're gonna make Ojo crack. But

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Speaker 2: back to this Lebron and Pat McAfee. Like you said,

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Speaker 2: o Joe, we're not used to seeing Lebron James sit

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Speaker 1: Normally, like when.

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Speaker 2: He's in the finals or he's in the playoffs, he

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Speaker 2: would sit down. That's like five that's like ten minutes.

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Speaker 3: And it's always it's always basketball related to he's literally

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Speaker 3: talking about other stuff going on in life. He's being vulnerable,

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Speaker 3: letting people in something he's never never ever done before.

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Speaker 3: Players like that of his magnitude, of his status, that

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Speaker 3: allows the world in the public to see what he

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Speaker 3: wants you to to actually sit down for a change.

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Speaker 3: I guarantee you if they were to do the numbers

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Speaker 3: on how many people watch that Pat McAfee show, I

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Speaker 3: bet it's astronomical crazy because it's something he's never.

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Speaker 2: Done right, and uh, you know, and and to see

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Speaker 2: like you said, to see him, but that just lets

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Speaker 2: you know that he and for me looking at him

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Speaker 2: considering that he had ever ever done anything like this before,

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Speaker 2: to think about how many people have criticized him. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and he's never ever done it before. So that lets

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Speaker 2: you know he had gotten to a place that he's like,

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Speaker 2: I've had it up to hear.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And I don't know if he knew.

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Speaker 2: I don't think he knew Steven A was gonna come

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Speaker 2: to the game, but he had it in his mind

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Speaker 2: if he ever saw Stephen A, he was gonna step

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Speaker 2: to it.

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Speaker 4: But he got stephen a number, He get a texta

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Speaker 4: call him. If there was an issue, you get a

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Speaker 4: texta call him. They communicate with each other, obviously they

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Speaker 4: have some some some some sort of relationship.

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Speaker 1: No they don't. You don't think so? No, Okay, well

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Speaker 1: I'm bad. No, But like you said, I mean you

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Speaker 1: mean no, they don't. Now as opposed to no, I don't.

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Speaker 2: Think they've ever had a relationship where they pick up

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Speaker 2: the phone and they talk to each other like that.

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Speaker 2: I don't think they've ever had that type of relationship.

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Speaker 2: Do I think they've been cordial to each other. I

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Speaker 2: remember I think I saw something on an old clip

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Speaker 2: maybe with YouTube, where Stephen they actually sat down to

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Speaker 2: the interview Lebron. But I don't think they're in a

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Speaker 2: situation where they like picked up the phone.

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Speaker 1: They have each other, they can call each other like that.

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Speaker 1: I don't.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if any Lebron is maybe teammates. It

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Speaker 2: could I could be wrong, I could be wrong. I

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Speaker 2: could be totally wrong. But I don't know if Lebron

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Speaker 2: has his number or he has Lebron's number. Lebron is,

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Speaker 2: you know, very very very Lebron rocked with who.

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Speaker 1: He rocked with.

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Speaker 2: And I think once you get to this level, if

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Speaker 2: you had, if you have a developed a friend by now,

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Speaker 2: Lebron James ain't letting you in his circle. It's really

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Speaker 2: that simple. So he got his friends. You know, Rich

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Speaker 2: is his agent, Maverick is his steps the chief of staff.

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Speaker 2: Mav is one of his business partners. I'm trying to

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Speaker 2: think who else he wrought Chris Paul. He's very close

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Speaker 2: to run a CP three then I think if vice

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Speaker 2: verds are the same thing with CP. But other than that,

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Speaker 2: I don't think Lebron has a whole, a whole lot.

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Speaker 1: Of what we call.

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Speaker 2: I look at those guys like I look at Bucket,

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Speaker 2: like I look at Bucket and Burns. He ain't got

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Speaker 2: You ain't got a whole lot of you know, TJ,

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Speaker 2: But hopefully, hopefully, hopefully everybody's made their point. Yeah, Lebron

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Speaker 2: was upset what he said, Stephen. They said that what

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Speaker 2: It is what it is. But at the end of the.

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Speaker 1: Day, I think we've got a We've got a lot

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Speaker 2: I think both have kind of squeezed that orange jojo Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And then Lebron took aim at Wendy.

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Speaker 2: Brian Windhorse said, this guy says he's my best effing friend.

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Speaker 1: These guys are just weird.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if Wendy's ever said I think Wendy

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Speaker 1: I don't think when I've never heard and I could

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Speaker 1: be wrong. Guys.

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Speaker 2: Hell, I was on I was on Undisputed for seven years.

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Speaker 2: I didn't hear everything Wendy said. As a matter of fact,

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Speaker 2: I didn't watch anything on anywhere. All I watched was

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Speaker 2: the games that were on his find. I don't watch

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Speaker 1: That do what I do.

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Speaker 2: And I'm gonna be talking about something because I don't

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Speaker 2: to say, so I don't watch. So Wendy Chad if

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Speaker 2: he said that he was Lebron's best friend, I apologize,

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Speaker 2: but I don't recall, and if I misspeak, I apologize

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Speaker 2: to you guys. But I don't believe Wendy has said

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Speaker 2: that he's Lebron's best friend. I think because he's covered

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Speaker 2: the same school, Saint Visus, Saint Mary.

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Speaker 1: He says.

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Speaker 2: I think he said I might probably know him better

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Speaker 1: But I don't get why. I mean, he would say

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Speaker 5: Man, You never know.

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Speaker 3: I think I think, like like I said, Lebron is

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Speaker 3: probably Lebron is fed up. He's he's he's on I'm

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Speaker 3: not saying he's on the way out the door, but

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Speaker 3: he's on the tail end of everything. And now he's

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Speaker 3: opening up a little bit more, doing things out of

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Speaker 3: capsule that he normally wouldn't do, which is giving the

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Speaker 3: giving us a glimpse of what's inside the world and

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Speaker 3: mind of Lebron King James and I enjoy I enjoyed it.

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Speaker 3: I hope he does more of it. I hope other

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Speaker 3: athletes do more of it. You know what I wish Lebron.

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Speaker 3: I wish Lebron was like Jeff t have you ever heard?

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Speaker 3: Have you ever sat and listen?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Lebron would it would be It would be an

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Speaker 3: honor for him to take a page out of jeff

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Speaker 3: just just just give it, just give it to stories.

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Speaker 1: I would love that. Yeah. Lebron talked about his relationship

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Speaker 2: While he still has immense respect for Jordan, the pair

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Speaker 2: don't talk much these days. I think that would change

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Speaker 2: when he retires from NBA, saying jordan intense competitive spirit

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Speaker 2: is why the two don't talk much. Now we all

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Speaker 2: know MJ, even if you don't know him personally. He's

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Speaker 2: one of the most ruthless competitors there is. And until

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Speaker 2: I'm done and he doesn't have to look at me

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Speaker 2: run up and down that court where in the twenty

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Speaker 2: three every time my name is mentioned, it is mentioned

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Speaker 2: with his He's like, I don't want to and talk

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Speaker 2: to you, do you, Griocho.

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Speaker 3: I mean, that's dope, that's dope list and that's a competitor.

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Speaker 3: The competitor nature in MJ. I think it's understandable, especially

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Speaker 3: when it comes to him. I think he's he's not

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Speaker 3: closed off. But MJ and Kobe are like in a sense.

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Speaker 3: MJ and Kobe are like in a sense. I think

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Speaker 3: their relationship will be much better and a lot closer

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Speaker 3: once Lebron is done playing. Yeah, they go play all together,

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Speaker 3: go play golf together, smoke the cards, you know, have

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Speaker 3: a little have a little one, whatever it is that

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Speaker 3: they do. But right now, while Lebron is actively playing,

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Speaker 3: I don't think him and the MJ just outside of

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Speaker 3: playing the game of basketball and being successful businessmen, there's

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Speaker 3: not much for them to talk about right now.

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Speaker 2: The only friend I know, Jordan got it? Oak, I mean, okay,

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Speaker 2: this got now. I've been around Jordan a little bit

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Speaker 2: and he is ultra competitive. First thing, I mean, I will, Hey,

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Speaker 2: you want to play cards? No, I don't want to

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Speaker 2: play cards, because you know Jordan games. You gotta come

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Speaker 2: down at least a hundred one hundred, one hundred grand

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Speaker 2: two hundred grand in cash.

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Speaker 3: You don't play.

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Speaker 2: I was like, no, I said, bro, you're nothing to

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Speaker 2: have me. You're nothing to have me living on the streets.

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Speaker 2: I love my house. It ain't Jeorge, But I ain't

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Speaker 2: trying to keep up with you. No, No, I don't.

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Speaker 2: I don't play no five fifty thousand dollars a hand.

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Speaker 2: Hell no, no, bro, Bro, guess what as long as

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Speaker 2: they make shoo with that logo, you got money coming in?

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Speaker 2: I ain't in the NFL no more. I ain't got

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Speaker 2: no more money coming in. You know, I was thirty five.

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Speaker 2: Then I can draw my pigeon at sixty two. So

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Speaker 2: I got five another five years before I could get

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Speaker 2: that o' chobren before I take a pill of it.

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Speaker 2: Hell now, I ain't gambling with you. As a matter

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Speaker 2: of fact, I'm mad you asked me that. You know,

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Speaker 2: damn well, I ain't got no money. No let I

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Speaker 2: woulda let you and I'm let you, oh, because I

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Speaker 2: think they play guts.

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Speaker 1: It's kind of like bout ray. You ever played Boe Ray?

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Speaker 1: No sir, no sir sir or in between?

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Speaker 2: But noah hell now he also U Lebron talked about

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Speaker 2: Jiannis on p MAC. You trying to tell me Johanna

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Speaker 2: wouldn't be able to play in the NBA games in

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Speaker 2: the seventies. Johnis would have had two hundred and fifty

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Speaker 2: points in the game in the seventies.

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Speaker 1: But let me ask you, see you transporting Janni's today

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Speaker 1: back then? Right?

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Speaker 2: Do y'all really know what they did? Did y'all see

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Speaker 2: those fights? How many people got to go down the lane?

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Speaker 2: See the stuff that they called They called a foul.

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Speaker 2: Now that wasn't no foul. There was nobody getting suspended

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Speaker 2: for slapping the issh out of somebody. There was no

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Speaker 2: I mean, there was no I mean waited. Karl alone

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Speaker 2: put forty four stitches in Isaiah head. You still think

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Speaker 2: you want to come down the lane? Do y'all remember

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Speaker 2: the finals in eighty four when Larry when Larry Birt,

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Speaker 2: when who was that Kevin McHale snatched Kurt Rambasan's Out

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Speaker 2: the Sky and it wasn't a flavor.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't nothing. If nobody it was suspended.

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Speaker 2: You can't take the modern play because, oh Joe, you're

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Speaker 2: talking about technology and you talk about the modernization.

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Speaker 1: Yes, if you transport Yannis today and put it back then,

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Speaker 1: looking at you as yea, what player couldn't what player?

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Speaker 2: If I take oh Joe, if I take you today,

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Speaker 2: you know what you know and the technology that you've

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Speaker 2: been able to develop, and put you back in the seventies, man,

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Speaker 2: oh Joe was killing.

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Speaker 1: Yes, modernization, that's unfair.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think from it, just like it's unfair. One

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Speaker 2: more thing, oh Joe, Just like it's unfair to say, oh,

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Speaker 2: man Jordan play today he averaged fifty. Let's how about this.

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Speaker 2: Let's leave everybody in the era in which they played

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Speaker 2: Yanni's plays in the twenty tens and twenty twenties. Lebron

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Speaker 2: has been in the two thousands to twenty tens and

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Speaker 2: We're not being fair to the guys that played in

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Speaker 2: Nobody's trying to rob you of that. You were great.

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Speaker 2: Called technology, Oh Joe, you got an opportunity to work

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Speaker 2: joy on.

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Speaker 1: It's different.

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Speaker 2: We got modern medicine, We know how to eat, we

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Speaker 1: You can have a physio.

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Speaker 1: We still we text a lot now, but it's different.

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Speaker 2: That you try to compare this era to that era

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Speaker 5: You're right, you're right.

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Speaker 2: The Cavaliers blow out The Lakers won thirty four to

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Speaker 1: He's only up a little lover forty thousand from catching

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Speaker 2: When you watch this game and considering how well the

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Speaker 2: When you look at them, the first three games, last

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Speaker 5: I mean, for me, it's it's it's a lot about

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Speaker 5: For one, I mean, bron is what.

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Speaker 5: So for me, it's like, at the end of the day,

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Speaker 5: But to be doing it that his age is, it's incredible.

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Speaker 5: But at the same time, he shouldn't have to be

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Speaker 5: I don't see that from their role players, the guys

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Speaker 5: Like what part of their game are you evolving to

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Speaker 5: I'm gonna be a knockdown shooter. I'm gonna be a

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I watching them into the turnovers. When you look

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Speaker 2: He was nine of seventeen. Ruey was four to six,

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Speaker 2: and Austin Reeve was to a six. Now that's two

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Speaker 2: or six and two or seven. It's not great percentage.

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Speaker 2: But they only got six shots swish they only got

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Speaker 2: So now you don't even give yourself an opportunity to

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Speaker 1: Well, if you allow team to.

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Speaker 2: Shoot fifty eight percent from the floor, swish you know this,

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Speaker 2: the three, you losing that game?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I about to say, you're gonna get smoked. You

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Speaker 2: Y'all know who it is. It's your favorite. I've teamed

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Speaker 2: up with Whatnot. This Friday, November first, at seven pm Pacific,

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Speaker 2: I'm joining the Cool Kicks gang here in Las Vegas.

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Speaker 2: I'm auctioning off three hundred pairs of the sneakers from

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Speaker 2: my personal collection, and it's going into a very worthy cause,

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Speaker 2: the Savannah State Scholarship Fun. I'm gonna start a scholarship

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Speaker 2: fun because I thought it was appropriate for me to

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Speaker 2: done so much for me. So this Friday, November first,

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Speaker 2: at seven pm Pacific, Whatnot, in our teaming up, we're

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Speaker 2: Your favorite up, not for me.

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Speaker 5: It's like you know, obviously a guy like Austin Reez

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Speaker 5: some nights you're gonna have off nights and stuff like that,

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Speaker 5: But you got to figure out a way for him

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Speaker 5: but I'm gonna need more out of that. And on

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Speaker 1: You ain't gonna win many games.

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Speaker 3: Like you know what, I got a question. You talk

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Speaker 3: How do you know when it's okay to take those shots?

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Speaker 3: Do you have the green light from the head coach?

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Speaker 1: How much he make?

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Speaker 2: How helo bake about delo make up bout what about

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Speaker 2: seventeen to twenty one off?

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Speaker 5: Something about shots?

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Speaker 1: You're talking about? Let it go?

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Speaker 3: So you see that wheel based on your salary.

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Speaker 5: What they're gonna.

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Speaker 5: Hey, look, when they ain't throw you the ball you

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Speaker 5: what you was looking. Hey, bro, ain't no man over

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Speaker 5: This is the prime time. So for me, when I

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, A d and Lebron's gonna get the

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Speaker 2: Now, let's what do you guys are feel Again, we

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Speaker 2: It's hard to get those kind of shots and that's

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Speaker 2: And as you mentioned, they had thirty seven assists, So

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Speaker 2: that's telling me, great ball movement. It's also telling me,

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Speaker 5: opposed to me swinging around the horn and we turn

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Speaker 5: this joint over and now I got to turn into

436
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Speaker 5: track start going on the other end. I'm gonna put

437
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Speaker 5: this up. I felt like I got a better percentage

438
00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:17,920
Speaker 5: of making this opposed to us turning the ball over,

439
00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:19,399
Speaker 5: and then we got to get a stop on the

440
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Speaker 5: other side.

441
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Speaker 2: What about the situation like this wish where guys are

442
00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:27,000
Speaker 2: try early on trying to say I'm so unselfish and

443
00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:29,680
Speaker 2: you overpassed the ball and you end up turning it over.

444
00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:31,760
Speaker 2: Like you said, You're like, okay, I got a good

445
00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:35,080
Speaker 2: look in transition, I'm gonna let it rip as a polder. Oh,

446
00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:36,879
Speaker 2: hot potato, Hot potato. The next thing you know, the

447
00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:38,720
Speaker 2: ball's going out of bound. You're like, come on, man,

448
00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:39,960
Speaker 2: go ahead and take that shot.

449
00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:43,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's you know, it's tough when you come into

450
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Speaker 5: situations like when I first got to Cleveland. We used

451
00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:47,800
Speaker 5: to run into that a lot because it got Kyrie

452
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Speaker 5: at the point, me at the two. We got bron

453
00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:54,399
Speaker 5: K Love and obviously trusting setting screens and Rose and Mazi.

454
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Speaker 5: But we you look around the horn, it's like we

455
00:21:57,600 --> 00:21:59,480
Speaker 5: got like, listen, I got a good shot, but he

456
00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:01,560
Speaker 5: got a great shot, so let me kick it to him.

457
00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:04,360
Speaker 5: And you know, guys just operating so fast. You want

458
00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:06,439
Speaker 5: to be unselfish, but at the same time, it's like,

459
00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:08,680
Speaker 5: if I don't take this shot, then he's not gonna

460
00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:11,159
Speaker 5: be open when we needed to be open. So for me,

461
00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:12,960
Speaker 5: a lot of those times, it's like I want to

462
00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:15,320
Speaker 5: be unselfish, but at the same time, I got to

463
00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:17,639
Speaker 5: be selfish for the team because it's gonna help us

464
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Speaker 5: out in the long run.

465
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Speaker 2: Twere you watched Bronni grow up, spend a lot of

466
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Speaker 2: years with Lebron in Cleveland, and see Bronni go from

467
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Speaker 2: a seven eight nine year old to now here he

468
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Speaker 2: is in the NBA.

469
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Speaker 1: What do you what is what is this moment? What

470
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Speaker 1: do you think this moment means for Lebron?

471
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Speaker 4: Oh?

472
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Speaker 5: Man, I mean I couldn't. I can only imagine like

473
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Speaker 5: to be able to. I just have my first son,

474
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Speaker 5: he seven weeks so for me thinking about the graph, Man,

475
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Speaker 5: appreciate you. Appreciate y'all.

476
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Speaker 1: Man, But you know we saw that, right, I mean,

477
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Speaker 1: I'm sure you did.

478
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Speaker 2: We're gonna leave that, We're gonna lead that alone. But

479
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Speaker 2: I just said, I just want you to know we

480
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Speaker 2: saw that.

481
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Speaker 5: Hey, man, Hey, you know what I heard you. I

482
00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:04,399
Speaker 5: ain't seen you, but I heard you.

483
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Speaker 1: Okay, there you go. Good swish get too soon, swish it.

484
00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:08,439
Speaker 1: You know what.

485
00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:11,080
Speaker 2: Got a matter fact, we bout on the same timeline.

486
00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:14,960
Speaker 2: It's about seven weeks, so you know what. That's why

487
00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:17,480
Speaker 2: that's why I left the headline so quick, because you

488
00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:19,280
Speaker 2: pushed me out, you like, get your.

489
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Speaker 1: Ass out of your head last.

490
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Speaker 5: Hey, I got the seventy two hour rule out. It's

491
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Speaker 5: over straight up.

492
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Speaker 2: Yeah, but you're saying this moment for Lebron and even

493
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Speaker 2: the city of Cleveland to see Lebron come back and

494
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Speaker 2: Brain Junior with me.

495
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Speaker 5: Yeah, man, I mean, honestly, Bronnie is such a you know,

496
00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:44,960
Speaker 5: you hear about so many different kids and so many

497
00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:48,280
Speaker 5: different situations who were like, you know, their parents are stars,

498
00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:51,399
Speaker 5: and they arrogant and they cocky and they feel like

499
00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:54,399
Speaker 5: they just you know, the world is supposed to be

500
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Speaker 5: their oyster. And Bronnie is the complete opposite.

501
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Speaker 1: Man.

502
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Speaker 5: It's like, it's a very humbling feeling to see him

503
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Speaker 5: in the situation he's in and he's very he's very

504
00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:09,560
Speaker 5: it's very grateful for the opportunity, you know, to live

505
00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:12,080
Speaker 5: out your dreams as a kid. That's one of the

506
00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:15,359
Speaker 5: very very rare, you know, few things that unfortunately with

507
00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:17,760
Speaker 5: us three have been able to do. But like to

508
00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:20,639
Speaker 5: actually live it out and have your pops there with

509
00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:23,320
Speaker 5: you to show you, to really show you the ropes,

510
00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:27,560
Speaker 5: it's very it's inspiring, man, Like I really look at

511
00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:30,080
Speaker 5: it and think of like, this is something I would

512
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Speaker 5: definitely want to give my kid one day if I

513
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Speaker 5: can give them the keys to if you can get

514
00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:36,680
Speaker 5: the keys to the chevy to your son, like, what's

515
00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:38,720
Speaker 5: different than give them the keys to the business or

516
00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:40,880
Speaker 5: give them the keys to the game, like just and

517
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Speaker 5: just letting them take it for you know, what they

518
00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:46,480
Speaker 5: wanted to be And regardless of the shoes that we feeled,

519
00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:49,520
Speaker 5: because obviously Bron is Bron and goes down to the

520
00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:51,719
Speaker 5: goat and everything else in comparison is going to be there,

521
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Speaker 5: be there or whatever. But to actually be able to

522
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Speaker 5: live out your dream is something that very few people

523
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Speaker 5: get to do. So I just hope he's in a

524
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Speaker 5: place to where he can actually absorb it and be

525
00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:04,520
Speaker 5: happy and be satisfied with it.

526
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Speaker 3: Now, I don't he and Jay, I don't think people

527
00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:12,600
Speaker 3: understand how dope this situation is, this scenario as a father,

528
00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:16,320
Speaker 3: as a father myself, and I'm just imagining being able

529
00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:19,040
Speaker 3: to play long enough in the NFL, which is hypothetically

530
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Speaker 3: it's damn there impossible, and to be able to play

531
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Speaker 3: long enough for your son to join you, just that

532
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Speaker 3: feeling and knowing all the work you know, Brinni and

533
00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:30,600
Speaker 3: Brown are put in over the years and how it's

534
00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:33,560
Speaker 3: paid off. Not only he's paid off, but now he

535
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Speaker 3: has the opportunity to share the court and the sport

536
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Speaker 3: in which they love and have grown up playing all

537
00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:40,920
Speaker 3: their life, and then to share it on the same team,

538
00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:44,399
Speaker 3: And that that is it's dope in itself, and I

539
00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:47,239
Speaker 3: really can't really put it into words how awesome it is.

540
00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:51,120
Speaker 3: A lot of people have been critical of it, obviously, saying,

541
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Speaker 3: you know, the whole favoritism and he only got he's

542
00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:54,000
Speaker 3: only there.

543
00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:54,639
Speaker 1: Because of his father.

544
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Speaker 3: Well hell, god, damn, yeah, well shit, you're supposed to

545
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Speaker 3: take advantage of those opportunities when you have, you know,

546
00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:04,680
Speaker 3: the cachet, and you have the power that Lebron does

547
00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:07,560
Speaker 3: to be able to bring your son on with you

548
00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:09,760
Speaker 3: and allow him to live out a dream, you know,

549
00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:14,440
Speaker 3: to play at the highest level. To me, it's damn,

550
00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:18,440
Speaker 3: it's unreal. It's unreal, and it's dope. It's motive, is motivating,

551
00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:22,679
Speaker 3: it's inspiring, and I just wish, I wish.

552
00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:23,479
Speaker 1: I could have done something like that.

553
00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:26,760
Speaker 3: Obviously I can't, so I'm gonna live vicereousy to them,

554
00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:27,960
Speaker 3: and that that's ship.

555
00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:28,959
Speaker 1: That's pretty much it, man.

556
00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:30,359
Speaker 3: That that's really really dope.

557
00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:33,240
Speaker 1: Man. You ain't seen that in football.

558
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Speaker 2: You ain't gonna see that in football, Jay d let

559
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Speaker 2: somebody have a kid while they're in high school and

560
00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:42,880
Speaker 2: they can play with and they I mean, you guys

561
00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:46,199
Speaker 2: could think about it. Tom Brady played twenty three seasons.

562
00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:50,160
Speaker 2: His son is probably a Southboy junior high school. Yeah,

563
00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:52,280
Speaker 2: so he would have had to have that kid at

564
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Speaker 2: fifteen sixteen. So therefore by the time he's thirty two,

565
00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:02,280
Speaker 2: Tom got another eleven years. So by the time now,

566
00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:05,560
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, that's a realistic possibility. Now you know,

567
00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:09,480
Speaker 2: there might be somebody that the plot like, go drop

568
00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:12,040
Speaker 2: this one right here, you know, because that's what it's

569
00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:12,440
Speaker 2: gonna take.

570
00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:12,760
Speaker 1: O Joe.

571
00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:16,000
Speaker 2: You can't. I mean, Lebron had a kid at twenty,

572
00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:19,560
Speaker 2: a kid at twenty. Even if you have a kid

573
00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:25,080
Speaker 2: at twenty in the in the NFL, bro, what's the

574
00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:27,160
Speaker 2: likelihood you playing another twenty seasons?

575
00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:29,560
Speaker 3: Not good unless you're a quarterback and you really really

576
00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:31,160
Speaker 3: really really really damn good.

577
00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:35,119
Speaker 1: And now your son. Because the difference is.

578
00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:39,280
Speaker 2: NFL players don't have the kind of leverage that an

579
00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:43,920
Speaker 2: NBA player have, especially a superstar like a Lebron, because

580
00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:48,200
Speaker 2: the positions are so valuable. So it's gonna, like I said,

581
00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:50,040
Speaker 2: I think Gordy Howe. I think he might have played

582
00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:53,520
Speaker 2: with his sons back in the you know, but the

583
00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:55,840
Speaker 2: likelihood of you seeing that in the NFL.

584
00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:59,280
Speaker 1: Ain't seventy sent guild. Did Lebron's wife really break down

585
00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:02,480
Speaker 1: being with me? Yeah? No, that's the truth.

586
00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:04,320
Speaker 6: Listen, that's the true story, man, when I went over

587
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:05,160
Speaker 6: Lebron's house.

588
00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:09,200
Speaker 1: I don't know if you heard the I think.

589
00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:14,639
Speaker 6: I think Richie Paul was on JJ's podcast when he

590
00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:17,160
Speaker 6: was talking about this big gambling game we did. Yeah,

591
00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:21,760
Speaker 6: like when we were doing the playoffs, Lebron wasn't gambling.

592
00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:26,800
Speaker 6: He was with him in Savannah, was watching film bringing down.

593
00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:29,200
Speaker 1: Tape on us.

594
00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:32,000
Speaker 6: And you know, I'm like looking like, oh, well, that

595
00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:34,160
Speaker 6: shit ain't gonna work because I don't like that play right,

596
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:36,280
Speaker 6: But the fact that that's what they were doing at

597
00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:38,960
Speaker 6: a young age, because I went to coach like, man, hey,

598
00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:42,000
Speaker 6: that's like a machine was about to play against We

599
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:43,440
Speaker 6: were better than them.

600
00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:45,520
Speaker 1: He was smarter than us.

601
00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:49,680
Speaker 6: Wow, he was better prepared at an early ege. No one,

602
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:53,200
Speaker 6: I didn't he outsmarted us in that series.

603
00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:55,160
Speaker 1: He was just smarter than all of us.

604
00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:58,320
Speaker 6: We took we took his his gift for granted we

605
00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:01,480
Speaker 6: knew the athletics, we didn't know he was tactical.

606
00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:04,840
Speaker 1: Are you gil? You know?

607
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:08,280
Speaker 2: Look chosen one on the cover Sports Illustrated. We know

608
00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:12,520
Speaker 2: the three straight the championships in the high school? Is

609
00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:16,240
Speaker 2: he more or exactly what you thought he would be?

610
00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:23,160
Speaker 1: Way more? Right? I mean I didn't. I didn't. I

611
00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:24,400
Speaker 1: didn't think that.

612
00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:27,880
Speaker 6: I remember my dad said, hey, you better get you

613
00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:28,480
Speaker 6: better get ready.

614
00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:28,880
Speaker 1: This summer.

615
00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:31,760
Speaker 6: There's a kid coming in by the name Lebron James.

616
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:34,640
Speaker 6: He's like a hurricane. Ain't nobody care about no high

617
00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:37,160
Speaker 6: school kid coming in? And then the first time I

618
00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:41,040
Speaker 6: seen him, I was like, all right, okay, at the

619
00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:44,800
Speaker 6: athleticism was different. And then just you know, being on

620
00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:48,000
Speaker 6: the East Coast playing against him, I can just see

621
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:50,680
Speaker 6: it clicking faster and fast. So he had to guard

622
00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:54,200
Speaker 6: me his first years. Well I was giving him that business.

623
00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:57,120
Speaker 6: But you can see it like, oh, man, by the

624
00:29:57,160 --> 00:30:00,920
Speaker 6: time he's twenty, oh, we're gonna be in trouble. And

625
00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:04,200
Speaker 6: this part I didn't. I didn't calculate. But watching him

626
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:07,000
Speaker 6: break down film and then watching him I was like, oh, okay,

627
00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:08,960
Speaker 6: he's gonna be something to record word. But I just said,

628
00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:13,320
Speaker 6: you didn't see. You didn't see that he was gonna

629
00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:19,640
Speaker 6: take care of himself and be exactly what he is today.

630
00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:24,200
Speaker 6: If someone said they they liing, they're they're lying.

631
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Speaker 4: To you.

632
00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:29,240
Speaker 2: For him to be able to do what he does,

633
00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:34,240
Speaker 2: because he missed a lot of the Bronis and Bryce

634
00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:37,360
Speaker 2: and Zouri. He missed a lot of that because he

635
00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:40,280
Speaker 2: needs to get his rest, he needs to train, he

636
00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:44,240
Speaker 2: needs to to to have the physio and to make

637
00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:49,040
Speaker 2: sure everything and he's at the gym getting up those shots.

638
00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:54,120
Speaker 1: How important is it to have someone in your life that.

639
00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:58,960
Speaker 2: Understands you, like Savannah understands Braun and not say I

640
00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:00,000
Speaker 2: need some help with the keys.

641
00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:02,160
Speaker 1: I've been there all day with the kids. Now that's

642
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:02,840
Speaker 1: your turn now.

643
00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:07,320
Speaker 6: Oh no, no, no, that's exactly what the other ninety

644
00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:09,560
Speaker 6: nine point nine percent of us get.

645
00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:12,520
Speaker 1: I think you all day with the kids here, right.

646
00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:13,440
Speaker 1: So the fact.

647
00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:18,000
Speaker 6: That that they've been there from the beginning, the whole

648
00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:21,320
Speaker 6: team Maverick, that it's the same group from day one.

649
00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:24,840
Speaker 1: They all knew the objective.

650
00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:29,000
Speaker 6: And that ejective be better if it was be better

651
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:32,280
Speaker 6: than Michael Jordan. They all did they part, right, So

652
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:35,360
Speaker 6: we when we look and say what has he sacrificed.

653
00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:39,280
Speaker 1: And we look at Bronnie and the family. He sacrificed

654
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:40,440
Speaker 1: being with his kids.

655
00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:46,640
Speaker 6: Right now, it's twenty years, twenty one, twenty one years,

656
00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:49,520
Speaker 6: So that means he didn't get to really be hands

657
00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:50,640
Speaker 6: on with Bronnie.

658
00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:54,760
Speaker 1: I was Bronnie's first trainer. Hey, Gil, what you think?

659
00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:55,400
Speaker 1: What you look like?

660
00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:55,600
Speaker 5: Hey?

661
00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:57,120
Speaker 1: You know I'm nervous for him.

662
00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:59,520
Speaker 6: You know, you know what I mean, because he's not

663
00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:03,560
Speaker 6: there to really instill what he can into him.

664
00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:08,840
Speaker 1: Right, It's been from a distance. That's what he sacrificed. Right.

665
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:12,280
Speaker 6: So the fact that you know, a Savannah has really

666
00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:15,600
Speaker 6: gotten these boys to where they are just shows you

667
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:18,120
Speaker 6: what type of stability he's had this whole.

668
00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:22,120
Speaker 1: Time, especial because she's made it abundantly clear.

669
00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:24,800
Speaker 2: She said, like some people want to start a business,

670
00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:27,080
Speaker 2: and some people want to do this, She says, all

671
00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:30,680
Speaker 2: I wanted to be with a wife and raise a family.

672
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:34,440
Speaker 2: So that means she gave up anything that she could

673
00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:37,320
Speaker 2: possibly want to be outside of being a wife and

674
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:41,840
Speaker 2: raising a family to sacrifice because she knew what he wanted.

675
00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:45,200
Speaker 2: I mean, think about somebody giving up them, you know,

676
00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:48,720
Speaker 2: that's like a mother and a father sacrificing for their child.

677
00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:52,760
Speaker 1: But she sacrifices sacrifice.

678
00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:55,640
Speaker 2: Maybe what she wanted or what she could have achieved.

679
00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:58,840
Speaker 2: So you know what, maybe you got I got them

680
00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:02,800
Speaker 2: you Hey, I got this. I'm in the carpool lane.

681
00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:05,520
Speaker 2: I'm gonna pick him up. I'm gonna be there. When

682
00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:07,640
Speaker 2: they look up in the stands, They're gonna see one

683
00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:10,440
Speaker 2: of us. It's probably gonna be me, because I want

684
00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:12,880
Speaker 2: you to be the best that you absolutely can possibly be.

685
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:16,640
Speaker 2: Now it gets to a point, Savannah, what do I

686
00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:18,240
Speaker 2: absolutely have to.

687
00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:18,760
Speaker 1: Be there for.

688
00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:24,320
Speaker 2: Bridie's first game considering what he went through this summer,

689
00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:28,160
Speaker 2: the cardiac arrest, we don't know if he if and

690
00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:31,320
Speaker 2: when he'll ever play again. Or I can't miss that

691
00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:37,160
Speaker 2: under no circumstances. All Star Game Game one, I can't miss.

692
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:41,840
Speaker 2: I cannot miss that because I don't know. You don't

693
00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:44,760
Speaker 2: get an opportunity to do the first again, to see

694
00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:49,600
Speaker 2: your see your oldest play his first collegiate game. So

695
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:53,320
Speaker 2: now you understand, because remember O, Joe, you and YO.

696
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:58,000
Speaker 2: You know this, there's a great sacrifice to be the greater,

697
00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:01,000
Speaker 2: the the greater the person, the great of the sacrifices

698
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:05,280
Speaker 2: that they've made and there is no balance for greatness.

699
00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:07,720
Speaker 1: Anybody tell you there is the line. Mm hm.

700
00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:16,040
Speaker 2: Go ask Vanessa, Go go ask Jeda, George, George's first wife.

701
00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:18,839
Speaker 2: Go ask the greats. I'm talking about the I ain't

702
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:21,000
Speaker 2: talking about you know, look there there there's a lot

703
00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:24,040
Speaker 2: of good players that's the great But I'm talking about this, this, this, this,

704
00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:24,759
Speaker 2: this pyramid.

705
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:29,920
Speaker 1: Ask them, ask them.

706
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:34,640
Speaker 7: It's the one thing that I think, as men, especially athletes,

707
00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:39,319
Speaker 7: when we look at you know, Lebron James and the

708
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:45,839
Speaker 7: Kobe's Chris Paul, that that woman that's that understands them

709
00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:50,040
Speaker 7: to a t, right, that that is the other half

710
00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:50,720
Speaker 7: of them.

711
00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:52,040
Speaker 1: It's an envy.

712
00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:55,480
Speaker 6: Like you started looking around at the girls you chose, Like, man,

713
00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:57,839
Speaker 6: what was I looking at? Like you know what I mean?

714
00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:00,520
Speaker 6: Like it's like, what was I looking at? What was

715
00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:04,719
Speaker 6: I chasing? Because what I was chasing wasn't it? This

716
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:07,239
Speaker 6: is what I've wanted, Like my career would have been

717
00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:12,320
Speaker 6: better if I had that, right, Like you know what

718
00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:18,960
Speaker 6: I mean, Like if I had some guidance, some understanding, right, Alfred,

719
00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:20,680
Speaker 6: not a Robin.

720
00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:23,680
Speaker 1: I don't need someone else there trying to be a

721
00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:25,160
Speaker 1: hero with me. Alfred.

722
00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:28,200
Speaker 6: He everything that's prepared for you to go be great,

723
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:32,520
Speaker 6: come back hurt. I'll refix you going out there and

724
00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:35,160
Speaker 6: save it again. That's what we're looking for. And I

725
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:40,719
Speaker 6: think that's what we when we sit here chasing, we're chasing, looking.

726
00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:43,360
Speaker 1: For that, and we don't know what it looks like.

727
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:46,279
Speaker 1: But when we do get it, we're like, hey, hey,

728
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:54,040
Speaker 1: what's that? How you doing? I look a cookie and magic. Now.

729
00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:54,920
Speaker 1: I don't know.

730
00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:59,560
Speaker 2: Hey, how many women you think would have rolled out

731
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:02,200
Speaker 2: when the same circumstances oho.

732
00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:10,080
Speaker 1: S take it? Take a special one.

733
00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:12,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, going to gone back out there with them on

734
00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:14,279
Speaker 2: thing that that you would lay in that that you.

735
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:17,640
Speaker 1: Would lay Yeah, a special one, take a special one.

736
00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:20,160
Speaker 1: Look at Peyton Manning. Look at Peyton Manning.

737
00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:23,719
Speaker 2: Now you know, o Joe, you know firsthand how much

738
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:26,800
Speaker 2: Peyton time he put in film study.

739
00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:28,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, Brady.

740
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:31,680
Speaker 2: Until she's like, you know what, damn it, man, you've

741
00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:34,000
Speaker 2: been promising me for the last seven eight years and

742
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:36,839
Speaker 2: you hang it up. Yeah, man, we got you ain't

743
00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:39,880
Speaker 2: gonna stop. And I just can't. I just can't do

744
00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:44,000
Speaker 2: it anymore. She went as long as she could not. Obviously,

745
00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:47,560
Speaker 2: they're they're things there, you know, hey, But again she

746
00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:50,319
Speaker 2: had her own career. You got to realize she got

747
00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:53,319
Speaker 2: more money than he does. Now, maybe she's like, well,

748
00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:55,280
Speaker 2: a lot of some of the things I did, stop,

749
00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:58,400
Speaker 2: I did sacrifice for you, for the you know, to

750
00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:00,440
Speaker 2: start a family, to raise the family.

751
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:06,640
Speaker 1: But Peyton, Peyton's uh boom.

752
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:11,960
Speaker 2: She's like, nah, but hey have that man Brady, God

753
00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:15,560
Speaker 2: that man sees and see man Brady's selfish. Man that

754
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:19,200
Speaker 2: like privilege right there. Hell yeah, you gotta be selfing

755
00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:21,800
Speaker 2: to be great. All of broke girls out and dated.

756
00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:24,279
Speaker 6: You're telling me someone makes more than me, and I'm

757
00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:25,000
Speaker 6: not gonna stop.

758
00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:29,480
Speaker 1: I'm done, take my bi have them. What are you

759
00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:32,279
Speaker 1: talking about? Oh Joe, you excuse me.

760
00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:35,400
Speaker 2: Gil You suffered the same thing that I suffer because

761
00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:37,960
Speaker 2: I didn't want the girl that wanted me. I wanted

762
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:40,439
Speaker 2: the girl. And so when you choose somebody to choose

763
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:42,120
Speaker 2: the girl that want you, not the girl you want,

764
00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:44,840
Speaker 2: because the girl that you won't ain't gonna be the

765
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:47,400
Speaker 2: ain't gonna be the one. Yea, I know that's that

766
00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:49,680
Speaker 2: you have to You have to live. You have to live.

767
00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:52,839
Speaker 2: You have to live and learn. And when you when

768
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:55,040
Speaker 2: you look, man, you you you.

769
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:55,799
Speaker 1: Don't know any better.

770
00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:58,759
Speaker 2: You you you not even you, not even thinking at

771
00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:01,680
Speaker 2: that point in time. You're like, man, I should have

772
00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:03,200
Speaker 2: married this what I should have married this one in

773
00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:06,080
Speaker 2: my college and then that didn't work out, or somebody

774
00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:08,400
Speaker 2: because we all say this, I'm gonna get somebody that

775
00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:12,200
Speaker 2: knows that knew me would I didn't have anything. I

776
00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:14,920
Speaker 2: had this old raggedy car, I didn't have no indoor plumbing,

777
00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:17,120
Speaker 2: and they know what they know what it's like the

778
00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:21,080
Speaker 2: sacrifice and be there for me. Then if that doesn't work,

779
00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:24,799
Speaker 2: I give then where do we go? Because the one

780
00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:32,759
Speaker 2: that we thought, uh, you know, it's like, oh Joe,

781
00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:35,840
Speaker 2: it's like, well, you know if the if the the

782
00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:39,560
Speaker 2: high school or the college sweetheart doesn't work, well, damn

783
00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:42,600
Speaker 2: even if you even if you the seventh round, if

784
00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:45,839
Speaker 2: you're on an NFL team, you in the NFL. It

785
00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:48,880
Speaker 2: ain't like you know what I'm saying, Hey, you're in

786
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:52,120
Speaker 2: the NFL. It's not like you know, well, you know,

787
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:55,920
Speaker 2: you work around the building. You actually in the league.

788
00:38:56,239 --> 00:38:58,560
Speaker 2: So whether you a seventh round pick or a first

789
00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:03,360
Speaker 2: round pick, hey, are you that shocked to play for

790
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:09,520
Speaker 2: the Broncos. Now it's a whole it's a whole different story.

791
00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:18,799
Speaker 2: Too late now oh Joe, Yeah, Oh, you know, I

792
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:20,520
Speaker 2: wanted to get that, and I know you've probably heard

793
00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:24,799
Speaker 2: of it by now. I wanted to respond to some

794
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:27,600
Speaker 2: of the criticism, and I normally don't respond to the

795
00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:30,319
Speaker 2: criticism because I don't I don't care anyway. And there

796
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:31,480
Speaker 2: have been a lot of guys, there have been a

797
00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:35,480
Speaker 2: lot of people taking shots at me personally. But we

798
00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:37,920
Speaker 2: know why they see Unk and Ochoe. They see the

799
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:41,360
Speaker 2: success that we're having, they see Club Sha, the success

800
00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:43,520
Speaker 2: that I'm having doing that, they see the success that

801
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:46,560
Speaker 2: I'm having on ESPN. So sometimes the only success someone

802
00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:48,440
Speaker 2: can have is that they take a bite out of you.

803
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:51,080
Speaker 2: That's their success is a by biting you, and I'm

804
00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:55,080
Speaker 2: cool with that. But I was asked, and I think

805
00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:58,719
Speaker 2: the question was, is that Lebron said he would be

806
00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:04,600
Speaker 2: still the same play absolutely had he never played in Miami. Absolutely,

807
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:10,200
Speaker 2: And two things can be true. I believe Lebron James

808
00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:13,319
Speaker 2: would have still been the all time leading scorer. I

809
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:16,200
Speaker 2: still believe Lebron James would have scored thirty thousand points,

810
00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:20,280
Speaker 2: had ten thousand rebounds, ten thousand assists. I still believe

811
00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:23,120
Speaker 2: he would have been a first team All NBA player.

812
00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:25,640
Speaker 2: I still believe he would have been a multi time

813
00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:29,520
Speaker 2: All Star player. But the pushback that I'm gonna give,

814
00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:32,319
Speaker 2: I do not believe he's the Lebron James that we

815
00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:37,720
Speaker 2: know without that stand in Miami, because without that because

816
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:40,840
Speaker 2: proud of him going there, he had zero championships but

817
00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:46,400
Speaker 2: two MVPs. He goes to Miami, he gets two titles

818
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:49,960
Speaker 2: and two more MVPs. So now he's four and two.

819
00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:53,600
Speaker 2: There's only a handful of people. Now you gotta go.

820
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:57,399
Speaker 2: There's only three people before Lebron did it. Will got four,

821
00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:02,200
Speaker 2: Jordan has five, Russell has five, and I think Kareem

822
00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:05,120
Speaker 2: has six, so they're four people. So now Lebron is

823
00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:08,640
Speaker 2: an exclusive company. So now people got like, hold on,

824
00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:11,520
Speaker 2: wait a minute, and he had him at the age

825
00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:17,040
Speaker 2: of twenty eight. So now he goes back to Cleveland,

826
00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:22,000
Speaker 2: he gets another title, four and three, he goes to

827
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:25,560
Speaker 2: LA he gets another title. Now he's four and four,

828
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:29,520
Speaker 2: so now he's an elite company. He's one of two

829
00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:34,719
Speaker 2: men to win multiple MVPs two locations, Kareem three and

830
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:38,160
Speaker 2: three three in Milwaukee, three in LA. He's one of

831
00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:44,800
Speaker 2: two men to win multiple MVPs finals MVPs at different locations, Kawhi,

832
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:52,959
Speaker 2: San Antonio, Toronto, Kareem, Milwaukee, La Lebron James, So could

833
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:56,799
Speaker 2: you still be the same player? Yes, but not the

834
00:41:56,840 --> 00:42:01,239
Speaker 2: player we know because without that because whether you see

835
00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:04,120
Speaker 2: here's the thing, O Joe, you can't say. And everybody

836
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:07,640
Speaker 2: keeps saying he could go anywhere and win those titles. Yeah,

837
00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:12,560
Speaker 2: Kevin Durant Camp Kevin Durant went to Golden State, stayed

838
00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:16,319
Speaker 2: three years, won two titles finals MVP both years, got

839
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:18,759
Speaker 2: hurt the third year, even though advanced, they lost. He

840
00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:21,160
Speaker 2: went to Brooklyn for four years? How many more times?

841
00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:23,719
Speaker 2: How many more championships he won? Who can I ask

842
00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:25,480
Speaker 2: you a question? Let me stop you right there. We

843
00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:26,720
Speaker 2: talked about James.

844
00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:29,040
Speaker 3: Okay, we talk about the greatest play We can talk

845
00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:31,319
Speaker 3: about the greatest player on the planet that would change

846
00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:35,279
Speaker 3: the dynamic of a team he's on. So in his

847
00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:38,680
Speaker 3: early and his late late late twenties, yes, twenty eight, Yeah,

848
00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:39,400
Speaker 3: win anywhere?

849
00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:40,680
Speaker 1: He could any team.

850
00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:42,880
Speaker 2: Why do you go to Miami, d Why do you

851
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:45,279
Speaker 2: go to Miami? Then d Wade told him to come

852
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:45,600
Speaker 2: on home.

853
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:47,200
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no. But you said he could have

854
00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:47,800
Speaker 1: gone anywhere.

855
00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:51,200
Speaker 2: I mean, he could have been that he felt that

856
00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:55,000
Speaker 2: was the best chance for him to win AM I correct.

857
00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:56,080
Speaker 1: Obviously he wanted to pay himself.

858
00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:57,800
Speaker 3: You want to pay himself with Boston Wade?

859
00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:00,719
Speaker 2: I mean, because but see, o Joe, see this is

860
00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:02,840
Speaker 2: what this wouldn't see the different?

861
00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:08,440
Speaker 1: Remember Cleveland? Right? Yes? Who did he have on the

862
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:10,359
Speaker 1: team with them? But here's the thing.

863
00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:13,239
Speaker 2: What what knowledge did he take back that he had

864
00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:15,520
Speaker 2: acquired from Miami back to.

865
00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:22,360
Speaker 1: Cleveland how to win? Ah? So where did he learn that? Okay?

866
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:22,640
Speaker 5: Then?

867
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:25,880
Speaker 2: So without that still in Miami, is he the same?

868
00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:28,960
Speaker 2: Do we view him the same without those four MVPs,

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Speaker 2: without those two other MVPs. And because here's the thing,

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Speaker 2: oh Joe, this is what we gotta look. If he

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Speaker 2: doesn't get those two MVP's regular seasons and those two

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Speaker 2: final MVPs, how do you put him in front of Kareem?

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Speaker 2: Kareem has six regular season MVPs, two finals MVPs, five titles.

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Speaker 2: How do you put him in front of Jordan who's

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Speaker 2: six and six? How do you put him in front

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Speaker 2: of Tim Duncan who has five titles, three finals MVP,

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Speaker 2: two regular season MVPs.

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Speaker 1: How do you put him in front of Magic?

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Speaker 2: Magic has three regular seas An MVPs five finals, three finals, MVPs.

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Speaker 2: How do you put him in there? If he doesn't

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Speaker 2: have that Miami stint on his resume.

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Speaker 3: You're underestimating how great Lebron is. I think if he

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Speaker 3: didn't go to Miami, if he chose to go somewhere else, regardless,

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Speaker 3: it would have been I think the outcome would have

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Speaker 3: been the same.

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Speaker 2: Now, that's not what he said, even he said it.

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Speaker 2: If you read Lebron James tweet, this is what Lebron said,

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Speaker 2: You damn right. I will still be I'm chosen. Ain't

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Speaker 2: nothing changing. Maybe less rings, but dominant from start to finish.

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Speaker 3: Even if he had said it he said maybe less rings,

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Speaker 3: but common sense and the eye test will tell you.

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Speaker 3: Wherever Lebron goes, that team come Hell of high Water

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Speaker 3: is probably going to be in the finals or in

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Speaker 3: contention to be in it.