WEBVTT - George Conway & Kim Hardy 

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<v Speaker 1>Hi, I'm Molly John Fast and this is Fast Politics,

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<v Speaker 1>where we discussed the top political headlines with some of

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<v Speaker 1>today's best minds, and Pew research says Donald Trump's approval

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<v Speaker 1>ratings stands at thirty seven percent, down from forty percent

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<v Speaker 1>in the fall, and soon to be much lower. We

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<v Speaker 1>have a great show for you today. New York's twelfth

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<v Speaker 1>district congressional candidate George Conway stops by to talk about

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<v Speaker 1>Donald Trump's assault on the free press, his jailing of

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<v Speaker 1>my friend Don Lemon, and his many, many other impeachable offenses.

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<v Speaker 1>And then we'll talk to Kim Hardy, who is running

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<v Speaker 1>in North Carolina seventh, a swing district. But first, the

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<v Speaker 1>stories the media is missing.

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<v Speaker 2>Molly, We're seeing a huge drop of the Epstein files today.

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<v Speaker 2>One of the biggest things we're seeing is that Chislad

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<v Speaker 2>Maxwell shielded twenty nine different Trump associates and peers to

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<v Speaker 2>contain thirty two hundred documents that mentioned President Trump. What

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<v Speaker 2>are you seeing?

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<v Speaker 1>So the Trump administration has supposedly they're saying this is

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<v Speaker 1>the final release of Epstein documents. I bet you there's

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<v Speaker 1>going to be more.

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<v Speaker 2>It doesn't seem like this could be ninety nine percent

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<v Speaker 2>of them, right.

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<v Speaker 1>I think they've released something like three million, a little

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<v Speaker 1>more than three million pieces of evidence from the Epstein files.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure there's more. Pretty interesting, and there's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of interesting stuff in here. One is that Howard Lutnik

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<v Speaker 1>in two thousand and five he said he would never

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<v Speaker 1>be in a room with that disgusting person. Ever, while

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<v Speaker 1>in twenty twelve he was planning a trip with his children,

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<v Speaker 1>teenagers and a seven year old to Little Saint James,

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<v Speaker 1>so that's pretty interesting. In twenty seventeen, Jeffrey Epstein donated

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<v Speaker 1>fifty thousand dollars to an organization in Lutnix's honor, So

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<v Speaker 1>that's certainly pretty recent. There's a lot of stuff in there.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a lot of stuff that's redacted, and this is

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<v Speaker 1>so Trump administration. They put it up and then they

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<v Speaker 1>took it down. So there's this spreadsheet of allegations against

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<v Speaker 1>Trump released by the DOJ, then taken down. I can't

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<v Speaker 1>imagine who called the DOJ to ask him about this.

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<v Speaker 1>There's Elon Musk, right, who wanted to visit the island.

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<v Speaker 1>This is pretty great. So New Year's Eve twenty thirteen,

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<v Speaker 1>Musk was in the calendar for New Year's a year

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<v Speaker 1>later too, So Elon had said he was refusing to

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<v Speaker 1>go to the island. But actually I guess Elon had

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<v Speaker 1>been uninvited. Elon is really mad, by the way, it's

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<v Speaker 1>Sky News for reporting that he is in the Epstein files.

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<v Speaker 1>But here's an email to Elon from I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>Jeff Gee vacation. I will send Helly for you. I

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<v Speaker 1>will be in British Virgin Island, Saint Barts over the holidays.

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<v Speaker 1>Is there a good time to visit? Still having friendly

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<v Speaker 1>conversations In twenty thirteen talking about sleep, Elon Musk to

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<v Speaker 1>Jeffrey Ebstein. So that is something. So we're definitely seeing

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<v Speaker 1>that Elon is in fact in the Ebstein files. Now

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<v Speaker 1>the incredible bit that I think is fascinating here is

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<v Speaker 1>you'll remember that when Elon had a big fight with Trump,

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<v Speaker 1>he said Trump is in the Epstein files. Boom. So

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<v Speaker 1>it turns out that Elon is in the Epstein files,

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<v Speaker 1>so boom. Also, FYI, Jeff Epp says, how many people

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<v Speaker 1>will you be for the helicopter to island? And Elon says,

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<v Speaker 1>just to Lula and me, what day night will be

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<v Speaker 1>the wildest party on your island. That is something that

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<v Speaker 1>Elon Musk types to Jeffrey Ebstein as one does with

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<v Speaker 1>there is a lot, there's a lot here.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it seems like this weekend is just going to

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<v Speaker 2>be this every hour on the hour, if not every

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<v Speaker 2>fifteen minutes on the fifteen minutes.

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<v Speaker 1>Trump's new pick for fed share also in the Epstein files. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so pretty good, pretty pretty good. He's in the Epstein files.

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<v Speaker 1>That is really something.

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<v Speaker 2>Sounds like the pedophile cable.

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<v Speaker 1>Brett Ratner too.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course, yes, well we do that actually. So in

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<v Speaker 2>other fun news, mister Trump says he wants to drive

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<v Speaker 2>housing prices up instead of lowering costs for people who

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<v Speaker 2>didn't work very hard.

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<v Speaker 1>So Donald Trump, during one of those Zeni cabinet meetings,

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<v Speaker 1>he says, We're not going to destroy the value of

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<v Speaker 1>their homes so that somebody who didn't work very hard

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<v Speaker 1>can buy a home. Okay, that is kind of the

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<v Speaker 1>opposite of affordability, isn't it.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that he said that's a democratic coax.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually, yeah, this is where we are. We got a

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<v Speaker 1>mad king who is running the country in a completely

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<v Speaker 1>insane way. He is trying desperately to pivot to be

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<v Speaker 1>slightly more popular. I do not see him laser focused

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<v Speaker 1>on affordability, despite the musings of one susie. While I

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<v Speaker 1>just don't think he's laser focused on affordability.

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<v Speaker 2>It seems like he's focused on pretending he won a

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<v Speaker 2>different election if you ask me so. ICE has begun

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<v Speaker 2>buying mega warehouse detention centers across the US, according to

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<v Speaker 2>new reporting across a few different outlets.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's talk about that. ICE is buying up the is

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<v Speaker 1>mega warehouse detention centers across the United States. There are

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<v Speaker 1>nearly two dozen communities have sparked protests over proximities to

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<v Speaker 1>houses and schools. By the way, you know what's happening here, right,

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<v Speaker 1>they're making jails. Okay, two warehouses one hundred and seventy

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<v Speaker 1>two million. A third in now Paso, Texas could be

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<v Speaker 1>among the largest jails of any kind in the country

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<v Speaker 1>as envisioned, with eight thousand, five hundred beds. So the

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<v Speaker 1>goal here is to make these twenty three warehouses into

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<v Speaker 1>detention centers. But they're not really detention centers, okay, you guys,

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<v Speaker 1>because they're not going to be set up in the

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<v Speaker 1>kind of humanitarian ways that you supposed to set up

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<v Speaker 1>a detention center. These are going to be like makeshift jails.

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<v Speaker 1>These are going to be like black sites to detain

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<v Speaker 1>thousands of immigrants arrested by federal agents in Minneapolis and

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<v Speaker 1>other cities. Some of these people are not in this

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<v Speaker 1>country legally. Some of these people are right. They killed

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<v Speaker 1>two American citizens over the last two weeks in Minnesota.

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<v Speaker 1>They've kidnapped numerous children anywhere from the ages of five,

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<v Speaker 1>probably younger two. We saw a two year old. What's

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<v Speaker 1>happening here is the never again stuff. This is the

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<v Speaker 1>stuff what happened in other countries we came in and

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<v Speaker 1>rescued people. Now it's happening here. And I think the

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<v Speaker 1>real question is where we rescue ourselves.

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<v Speaker 2>YEP. One of the things, though, to remember is this

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<v Speaker 2>is deeply, deeply unpopular. What are the greatest sizes of

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<v Speaker 2>this by I always think of an interview we did

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<v Speaker 2>a while ago where we were talking about where the

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<v Speaker 2>Democrats don't run candidates, and the one place that the

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<v Speaker 2>person could see it as like, Wyoming is very hard

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<v Speaker 2>to have in roads in because it's so deep red.

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<v Speaker 2>And yet the woke has come to Wyoming and they

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<v Speaker 2>booed Harriet Hageman out of her town hall for refusing

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<v Speaker 2>to denounce ice killings.

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<v Speaker 1>So, Harriet Hageman, I want to pull back and talk

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<v Speaker 1>about Harriet Hagerman. Harriet Hageman was the woman who ran.

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<v Speaker 1>She occupies the seat that used to be occupied by

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<v Speaker 1>Liz Cheney. She ran for that seat because she is

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<v Speaker 1>a craven opportunist. Right. She knew there's only one congressional

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<v Speaker 1>seat in Wyoming. It had been Liz Cheney's for a

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<v Speaker 1>long long time. Trump took Liz Cheney out because she

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<v Speaker 1>was not loyal to him. Harriet Hageman was happy to

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<v Speaker 1>move in there. She has the craziest as I've ever

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<v Speaker 1>seen in my life.

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<v Speaker 2>Makeup artist if I've ever seen one personally.

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<v Speaker 1>That is not relevant here to this, but let's just

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<v Speaker 1>go so that I am a student here at CC,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was here at your last town hall back

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<v Speaker 1>in August. You mentioned Lake and Riley, a male student said,

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<v Speaker 1>referring to the twenty two year old who was murdered

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<v Speaker 1>in twenty twenty four by a Venezuelan immigrant. They love

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<v Speaker 1>this poor woman. They have made her just like as

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<v Speaker 1>the one name they know. However, you did not mention

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<v Speaker 1>today either of the people who were killed in Minnesota recently?

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<v Speaker 1>Why is that the question? Elicited? In uproar from the crowd,

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<v Speaker 1>one older man shouted shot ten times in the back,

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<v Speaker 1>referring to the times that agent shot Alex pretty And

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<v Speaker 1>then she said, when I was speaking in August, I

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<v Speaker 1>was describing the Lake and Riley Act that we had

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<v Speaker 1>passed in the last year. Hageman responded, before the student

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<v Speaker 1>cut her off. That's not the question. Why haven't you

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<v Speaker 1>mentioned either of the people killed in Minnesota? He pressed,

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<v Speaker 1>and she couldn't answer. You know why she couldn't answer,

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<v Speaker 1>because this is not about justice. It's about giving Trump

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<v Speaker 1>as much power as possible, letting him get away with

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<v Speaker 1>any kind of weird, illegal shit he wants to do.

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<v Speaker 1>Is how we got here. This is autocracy. These Republican

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<v Speaker 1>congresspeople are handmaids of autocracy. George Conway is a candidate

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<v Speaker 1>in the Democratic primary in New York's twelfth congressional district.

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<v Speaker 1>George Conway, Hello, another truly insane day in Donald Trump's America.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm on Morning Joe this morning. Don Lemon has been

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<v Speaker 1>arrested last night in the lobby of his Beverly Hills

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<v Speaker 1>Hotel by federal agents, and now he has spent the

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<v Speaker 1>night in jail discuss.

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<v Speaker 3>Fucking outrageous, fucking illegal, and fucking dangerous. I mean, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>Mom might be using that line, but that's the only

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<v Speaker 3>way I cannot and describe it. And I don't even

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<v Speaker 3>know where to start. I mean, he was basically just

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<v Speaker 3>covering a protest and they try to ding him under

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<v Speaker 3>some law that says you can't interrupt church services. Let's

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<v Speaker 3>leave apart the question of the legality of that law.

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<v Speaker 3>I guess it makes sense. I mean, if you're really

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<v Speaker 3>truly disrupting and you're impringing on for somebody's First Amendment

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<v Speaker 3>rights to worship, I guess that's or you know, I

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<v Speaker 3>guess that's that's certainly protectable. But if you're a journalist

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<v Speaker 3>and you're there and you're simply observing something, whether it

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<v Speaker 3>be a disturbance or something else, you're clearly not you're

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<v Speaker 3>not engaging in that kind of disruption, and you're in

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<v Speaker 3>any event your actions are and should be protected by

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<v Speaker 3>the First Amendment to the Constitution of the United States,

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<v Speaker 3>and I you know, it's it's just absolutely it's nothing

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<v Speaker 3>to do with that particular incident in the urch. It's

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<v Speaker 3>got to do with the fact that he's been annoying

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<v Speaker 3>the ship out of Ice for weeks. He was in Portland,

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<v Speaker 3>we saw him there, we saw him in Minneapolis. He's

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<v Speaker 3>been he's been an absolute brilliant you know he's been.

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<v Speaker 3>He's been. He's been out there shoe leather in the cold,

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<v Speaker 3>doing journalism, doing independent journalism, more of which we need.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know, his rights are our rights. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>if if, if the government can shut him down, he

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<v Speaker 3>can shut anybody down, and we have to stick up

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<v Speaker 3>for him. And I think I think he's gonna I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know. I think he will prevail in court. But

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<v Speaker 3>that doesn't mean that, you know, it means, but it

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't mean that this doesn't hurt because because other people

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<v Speaker 3>might not have the wherewithal, might not have the volunteer

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<v Speaker 3>lawyers to to to to help in his circumstance. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>this is so bad. The government couldn't even get a

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<v Speaker 3>US magistrate judge to sign the arrest warrant, which is

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<v Speaker 3>normally you just get the Act. But David and and

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<v Speaker 3>and they'll sign the arrest warrant, and there are an

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<v Speaker 3>and the FBI is off to the races. And here

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<v Speaker 3>not only did the manistrate judge not issue the arrest

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<v Speaker 3>of warrant, they took it up to the US Court

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<v Speaker 3>of Appeals for the A Circuit, and the A Circus said,

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<v Speaker 3>what the fuck, No way, we're going to reverse the judge.

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<v Speaker 1>I want you to talk about the Eighth Circuit judge

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<v Speaker 1>who said what the fuck because he feels like a

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<v Speaker 1>real George Conway type.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I don't, I don't do you ever know him.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know him at all. I kind of saw

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<v Speaker 3>a little online that he's a pro.

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<v Speaker 1>First Yeah, yeah, you know, he's a rule of lock

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<v Speaker 1>on a guy. It strikes in the job by W,

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<v Speaker 1>by W by W.

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<v Speaker 3>Really, these are the real old style we believe in

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<v Speaker 3>individual rights conservatives who are on the bench. These are

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<v Speaker 3>the same people who did a lot remember in twenty

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<v Speaker 3>twenty and twenty to early twenty twenty one to stop

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<v Speaker 3>the bullshit that you know, when Trump was Shawn is

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<v Speaker 3>steel an election. I remember the guy Bibus on the

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<v Speaker 3>Third Circuit who was a Trump appointee and basically affirmed

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<v Speaker 3>that this, you know, the dismissal of Ludi Julianne is

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<v Speaker 3>bullshit cases like these judges aren't buying this. I mean

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<v Speaker 3>it's only the most recently appointed hacks that they have

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<v Speaker 3>really any chance with and leopart the Supreme Court because

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<v Speaker 3>the Supreme Court's like, well, h.

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<v Speaker 1>But they are you can tell they see which way

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<v Speaker 1>the wind is blowing up absolutely things.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, the court's on balance, particularly the lower federal

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<v Speaker 3>courts have been fantastic defending the rule of law. The

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<v Speaker 3>problem is they are not the solution. They are not

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<v Speaker 3>the solution that the framers intended to a criminal executive.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, the court says, and we've had this discussion

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<v Speaker 3>a bunch of different times, it's like the courts can

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<v Speaker 3>stop one thing at a time, or order one thing

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<v Speaker 3>stopped at a time, but they can't stop everything. And

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<v Speaker 3>not only that, to enforce the court orders actually requires

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<v Speaker 3>the cooperation of the Justice Department, which isn't going to

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<v Speaker 3>fully cooperate when push comes to shop. You know, the

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<v Speaker 3>most important mechanism to fight a criminal executive is impeachment

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<v Speaker 3>and removal. And the other thing that actually can be

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<v Speaker 3>useful at least as a stopgap measure before you remove

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<v Speaker 3>the president is you know, it is actually the funding

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<v Speaker 3>mechanisms of the government, which we actually are seeing some

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<v Speaker 3>kind of interesting maneuvering in the Senate today.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess, yeah, well, I want to talk about the Senate,

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<v Speaker 1>but I first want to talk to you about mister

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<v Speaker 1>Todd Blanche, attorney to Donald J. Trump. I know you've

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<v Speaker 1>been busy running for Congress, but I spat.

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<v Speaker 3>With him, remember a few weeks ago.

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<v Speaker 1>Remind us now, I had.

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<v Speaker 3>A little spat with him, and I forget what it

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<v Speaker 3>was about, but he went out and attacked me, and

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<v Speaker 3>I cleaned his clock somehow. But he's just a ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 3>He's a ridiculous, shameless person who basically is he got to.

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<v Speaker 1>Be Deputy Attorney General because Donald was liked how he

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<v Speaker 1>was as a lawyer.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, because he was one of the few criminal defense

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<v Speaker 3>lawyers who represent Trump. And I don't know, I mean

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<v Speaker 3>this was a he represented Trump in the in the

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<v Speaker 3>case in which he was convicted on thirty four counts. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I guess your reward, good job, good job, Todds.

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<v Speaker 1>So he gave it. He gave a presser today when

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<v Speaker 1>they released all of these Epstein files, which, now, by

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<v Speaker 1>the way, in an incredible bit of insanity, they released

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<v Speaker 1>all these Epstein files and then and a lot of them,

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, and I'm not defending anyone here, but

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<v Speaker 1>there are a lot of allegations in these Epstein files

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<v Speaker 1>that may or may not be true, right, Like every

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<v Speaker 1>allegation is in there. So the DOJ now has started

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<v Speaker 1>pulling them off the internet. So there's a spreadice last time. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a spreadsheet with Donald Trump a lot of pretty

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<v Speaker 1>serious allegations and then redacted names of people who said

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<v Speaker 1>he had committed the crimes. They were put up and

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<v Speaker 1>then we saw them disappear in real time.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>And the law that was written and it was passed

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't allow them to do that carriod full stop unless

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<v Speaker 3>there's an active investigation going on. I think you know

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<v Speaker 3>they're not investigating.

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<v Speaker 1>Donald Trump, certainly not. And what I thought was interesting

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<v Speaker 1>when Todd blanche was talking today, he said there are

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<v Speaker 1>no other men who are culpable in any way.

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<v Speaker 3>And and he did that after what looking at all

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<v Speaker 3>the documents, say, look at all three million invages of

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<v Speaker 3>the documents.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure he did not, but that was what he said,

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<v Speaker 1>he said, And if there were, then they would have

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<v Speaker 1>charged them already.

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<v Speaker 3>Correct, And the fact is that none of that keeps,

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<v Speaker 3>none of that allows them to to pull back these documents.

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<v Speaker 3>But of course, you know what happened. Somebody at the

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<v Speaker 3>White House started screaming about it, maybe some guy with

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<v Speaker 3>orange chair. It was a little a little weak in

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<v Speaker 3>the brain, maybe a little cooked, a little bit cooked

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<v Speaker 3>up there, a.

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<v Speaker 1>Little cooked Donald Trumps. It seems as if the only

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<v Speaker 1>thing that could stop Donald Trump is an impeachment. You're

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<v Speaker 1>running for Congress.

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<v Speaker 3>It is not a question of politics anymore. It is

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<v Speaker 3>not a question of g how does impeachment Paul? In fact,

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<v Speaker 3>it should never be that. This is a solemn power

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<v Speaker 3>and obligation of the United States Congress to preserve constitutional

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<v Speaker 3>government by removing people who commit high crimes and misdemeanors.

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<v Speaker 3>And there is nobody in the history of this country

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<v Speaker 3>who has committed more high crimes and misdemeanors in such

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<v Speaker 3>a short time or at all, than Donald fucking Trump.

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<v Speaker 3>And by high crimes and misdemeanors, we mean actual statutory

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<v Speaker 3>crimes which he's been committing, like you know, bombing these

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<v Speaker 3>people out in the Caribbean. And I can't imagine that

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<v Speaker 3>some of the some of the money that's been floating around.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, he's a criminal. We already knew that he's

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<v Speaker 3>a trump coin, but trump coin, I mean all of

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<v Speaker 3>this crypt But even apart from that, high crimes and

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<v Speaker 3>misdemeanors means just basically violating your growth of officing your

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<v Speaker 3>duties to the people.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like, let's say you're a trustee of a trust

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<v Speaker 3>right as a beneficiary, and you're required to you know,

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<v Speaker 3>manage the money, and you start spending it on yourself. Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>that's that's a violation of your legal obligations. And the

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<v Speaker 3>fact presidency is the ultimate trust in the United World.

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<v Speaker 3>It is it is. You know, if you violate that

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<v Speaker 3>trust and you operate the government for your own benefit

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<v Speaker 3>and not for the people's benefit, you don't execute the

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<v Speaker 3>laws faithfuble, You violate the laws because it's in your

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<v Speaker 3>interest personally to do so. Those are high crimes and

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<v Speaker 3>misdemeanor and just being generally incompetent. Maladministration of an extreme sort,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, maladministration of ice, which is absolutely appalling. What's

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<v Speaker 3>what he's doing, maladministration through doge everything, all of this

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<v Speaker 3>stuff is impeachable. Virtually everything he's doing this these days

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<v Speaker 3>is impeachable. And the problem, the thing that concerns me

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<v Speaker 3>other than you are we going to make it through

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<v Speaker 3>the next three years, is there's a lot of people

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<v Speaker 3>who don't get that that is supposed to be the remedy.

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<v Speaker 3>A lot of people think, you know, it's kind of

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<v Speaker 3>like you ever hear the term that psychologists use, learned helplessness. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>and this is to some extent the body politic, including

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<v Speaker 3>our electeds. And we're not just talking here. I mean

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<v Speaker 3>the Republicans are absolutely craven and cowardly and shameless, but

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<v Speaker 3>even some Democrats are like, well, we can't really do

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<v Speaker 3>anything about Trump for three years. We just have to

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<v Speaker 3>big grint it. We have to just bear it, and

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<v Speaker 3>you know, we have to make do with what we

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<v Speaker 3>can do and try to try to work on other

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<v Speaker 3>issues and de size Trump for every all sorts of

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<v Speaker 3>other issues. Like to it's a huge mistake. It's wrong

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<v Speaker 3>as a legal matter, it's wrong as a moral matter.

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<v Speaker 3>It's wrong as a political matter because he's like, you're

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<v Speaker 3>creating the self fulfilling, self defeating prophecy. And it's also

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<v Speaker 3>wrong because of the things, the things that affect people's lives,

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<v Speaker 3>negatively higher cost because of illegal tariffs. You know, I

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<v Speaker 3>look out the window from my apartment in West Chelsea

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<v Speaker 3>and I see the Gateway construction project, which is the

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<v Speaker 3>new Amtrak tunnel that Trump is cutting off funds for

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<v Speaker 3>because he wants to punish New York. That's an example.

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<v Speaker 3>Jobs are all our transportation system is on the line.

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<v Speaker 1>But a king, right, he's not a king.

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<v Speaker 3>He's not a king, but he's but he's he's an

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<v Speaker 3>elected official. His oath of offices to enforce the laws

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<v Speaker 3>and and and bide by the Constitution, and his you know,

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<v Speaker 3>to douce so own the best interests of the nation.

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<v Speaker 3>And he can't he can't do that. All he cares

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<v Speaker 3>about is himself and his seven forty seventh in his ballroom,

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<v Speaker 3>and and the Millennia movie showing at the Trump kennedyly

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<v Speaker 3>named Trump Kennedy Center, where he's putting these marble armrests

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<v Speaker 3>and so on and so forth. I mean, it's all

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<v Speaker 3>fucking bullshit, and he seeks to go.

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<v Speaker 1>They took four journalists, all of whom are black. Oh, surprise, surprise, surprise, surprise,

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<v Speaker 1>all of whom are independents. So they don't have big organizations.

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<v Speaker 3>They don't have right exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I do think like this is like Kimmel, This

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<v Speaker 1>is like taking kim off there. It is a moment

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<v Speaker 1>where you ask yourself, like, how do we go on

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<v Speaker 1>like this?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, no, it's it's and it's worse though, but it's

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<v Speaker 3>I mean with Kimmel, they were basically intimidating somebody to

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<v Speaker 3>then in their private business to screw Kimmel. This is

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<v Speaker 3>physically arresting people. This is cashappo type taxings. This is insane.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think it will stand, but I think it's

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<v Speaker 3>really really important for people to understand how important those

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<v Speaker 3>individual journalists' rights are to our rights. Yeah, because their

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<v Speaker 3>rights are our rights. Their right to inform us affects

0:22:18.960 --> 0:22:21.960
<v Speaker 3>our right to be informed. It's all one and the same.

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<v Speaker 3>And ultimately, if they don't have the right to inform

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<v Speaker 3>other people, then neither do we, and we we just

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<v Speaker 3>absolutely have to. I mean, you know, the First Amendment

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<v Speaker 3>is just essentially essential to the lifeblood of a democracy

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<v Speaker 3>in a free country, and they're trying to choke it off.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think that why they don't like journalists, why

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<v Speaker 1>autocrats don't like journalists, comes down to very simple calculus,

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<v Speaker 1>which is they do not want their crimes reported on.

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<v Speaker 3>They don't want truth. And you know, I mean, scholars

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<v Speaker 3>of fascism will tell you that the entire superstructure of

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<v Speaker 3>a fascist government is lying lies like this administration tells

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<v Speaker 3>about things that we can see with our own eyes,

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<v Speaker 3>like the murder of Renee Good and the murder.

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<v Speaker 1>Of Alex pretty lies as lies.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I know, I have a friend, a professor,

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<v Speaker 3>a professor of of of of history, who writes, who

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<v Speaker 3>has written a book called Fascist Lies, and he goes

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<v Speaker 3>through all you know how how essential it is. The

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<v Speaker 3>gaslighting is absolutely essential to maintain a fascist regime. You

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<v Speaker 3>can't believe what your eyes see, don't you know, you

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<v Speaker 3>believe the propaganda. And you know, fortunately, you know, we

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<v Speaker 3>have a video in HD and that's important.

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<v Speaker 1>I do think if we didn't have that video, who

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<v Speaker 1>even knows what would be right now?

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<v Speaker 3>No, And and God bless these people who are out

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<v Speaker 3>there standing in the cold, risking them, risking their their lives.

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<v Speaker 1>Holy, I've been killed who have been killed, so they

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<v Speaker 1>are technically risking their lives.

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely, man at least, and you know, and there are

0:24:10.600 --> 0:24:13.440
<v Speaker 3>other people have been shot. We forget that there are

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<v Speaker 3>other incidents where people have been hurt and injured. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>though you know, any one of those could have could

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<v Speaker 3>have been another death.

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<v Speaker 1>It's so incredibly insane to be in this moment because

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<v Speaker 1>it was like there have been so many times over

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<v Speaker 1>the last decade where you and I have sat down

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<v Speaker 1>and been like, this is really fucking bad. But this

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<v Speaker 1>is like, no.

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<v Speaker 3>We've reached out of the we we talk about when

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<v Speaker 3>we talked about this. You know, we've been talking about

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<v Speaker 3>this for years. We were talking about how insane it was,

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<v Speaker 3>and then we would extrapolate, right, what could keep going?

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<v Speaker 3>This would be fascism.

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<v Speaker 1>M hmm.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, we are way up that chart. Now, okay, now

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<v Speaker 3>we're kind of it's more like, you know, one of

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<v Speaker 3>those hockey stick grass. We're all of a sudden like

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<v Speaker 3>this and it's not like that, and we all are

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<v Speaker 3>you know, and all the people have said, oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>he'll go a ways. It's you're exaggerating.

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<v Speaker 1>He's going to just play some golf.

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<v Speaker 3>Remember that down you know, Susan Collen has learned his lesson.

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<v Speaker 3>He doesn't. He never will. He's going to get more

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<v Speaker 3>and more dangerous.

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<v Speaker 1>George Conway, I have a question for you which I

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<v Speaker 1>think you will appreciate. So Susan Collins we're just talking about,

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<v Speaker 1>is running for reelection the state of Maine. Yes, she

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<v Speaker 1>calls a White House, tells them they got to pull

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<v Speaker 1>out ice.

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<v Speaker 3>Yep.

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<v Speaker 1>Why do you think Susan Collins did that?

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<v Speaker 3>Because she's trying to save her own skin and that's

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<v Speaker 3>all she cares about. Obviously, it's good for the people

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<v Speaker 3>of Maine that ice is withdrawn from Maine, but that

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't help the rest of the country, and it shouldn't

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<v Speaker 3>be that. If you have a vulnerable Republican incumbent senator,

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<v Speaker 3>you get up, you know, you get past the government

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<v Speaker 3>from ice. Okay, we're all in this together, We're all Americans.

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<v Speaker 3>This only highlights the vindictive and political nature of how

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<v Speaker 3>the federal government, this criminal regime is using ice. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>we saw out a bit of that in Minnesota when

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<v Speaker 3>Bondi wrote that letter to Governor Walt saying, Wow, it

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<v Speaker 3>might would draw ice if you do like give us

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<v Speaker 3>the give us your voter rolls, which has absolutely nothing

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<v Speaker 3>to do with law enforcement, nothing to do with relation.

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<v Speaker 1>Isn't it illegal to trade ice occupation? I mean, I

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<v Speaker 1>know we've moved so beyond legal and not legal but

0:26:38.000 --> 0:26:43.000
<v Speaker 1>legal real ice occupation for voter rolls. I mean, isn't

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<v Speaker 1>that the craziest thing you've ever heard?

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely, absolutely, positively insane, particularly when you consider that under

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<v Speaker 3>the constitutional structure that we have, states are principally responsible

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<v Speaker 3>for the administration of elections, even elections to federal office,

0:27:01.280 --> 0:27:04.160
<v Speaker 3>like running for Congress that's run by like hear New York.

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<v Speaker 3>You know you run for you run for Congress, which

0:27:07.520 --> 0:27:09.760
<v Speaker 3>you're on a ballot that's created by the New York

0:27:09.920 --> 0:27:11.840
<v Speaker 3>State or New York City Board of Elections. The same

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<v Speaker 3>way across the country. So you know, this is absolute.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, these conservatives who are supposedly respectful of federalism,

0:27:20.840 --> 0:27:23.719
<v Speaker 3>they're trampling it. Don't give a fuck about it. They

0:27:23.720 --> 0:27:25.640
<v Speaker 3>don't give a fuck also about the Second Amendment, right

0:27:25.680 --> 0:27:29.680
<v Speaker 3>because they figures if if if Alex pretty has a gun,

0:27:29.720 --> 0:27:32.200
<v Speaker 3>he gets to be shot. That's that's their position. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, they're just unbelievably unbelievable gas lighting hypocrites.

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<v Speaker 1>Any conservatives. Are they losing any conservatives because they're losing

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<v Speaker 1>it in the polling, But we're not seeing that on Twitter.

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<v Speaker 3>Look, I mean you look, you all I can tell

0:27:45.280 --> 0:27:47.399
<v Speaker 3>you is I don't talk to these people, and but

0:27:47.560 --> 0:27:49.520
<v Speaker 3>I can tell you that you know, you can see it.

0:27:49.640 --> 0:27:51.199
<v Speaker 3>You can see it in some of the press. You

0:27:51.200 --> 0:27:53.040
<v Speaker 3>can absolutely see it in some of the press. He

0:27:53.119 --> 0:27:55.639
<v Speaker 3>saw some of the you know acts. I think Axios

0:27:55.640 --> 0:27:58.239
<v Speaker 3>had a story about how Republicans are just doing you know,

0:27:58.280 --> 0:28:01.040
<v Speaker 3>they're they're they're worried that going to get destroyed. And

0:28:01.119 --> 0:28:05.840
<v Speaker 3>when then we saw the most amazing example is that

0:28:05.960 --> 0:28:08.840
<v Speaker 3>gubernatorial candidate in Minnesota who is going to be the

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<v Speaker 3>Republican nominee, or it was the Republican nominee. BASICI says,

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<v Speaker 3>I give up. Yeah, you can't. You know, how can

0:28:15.160 --> 0:28:17.040
<v Speaker 3>you run with an art after your name? I don't

0:28:17.040 --> 0:28:19.479
<v Speaker 3>know how anybody after over the last several years. I mean,

0:28:19.520 --> 0:28:22.040
<v Speaker 3>I quit the Republican Party in twenty eighteen because I

0:28:22.119 --> 0:28:24.520
<v Speaker 3>was just out of control and it was a personality call.

0:28:24.640 --> 0:28:28.120
<v Speaker 3>It was better then than it is today. I don't

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<v Speaker 3>know how you can face the electorate as a Republican.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just it's shameful. And you know, this guy realized

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<v Speaker 3>it's untenable to run as a Republican in Minnesota now

0:28:37.400 --> 0:28:41.680
<v Speaker 3>because because the state has just been so thoroughly abused

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<v Speaker 3>by Donald Trump.

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<v Speaker 1>Kim Hardy is a candidate for North Carolina seventh Congressional District.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Fast Politics, doctor Harvey.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you so much for having me. I'm excited to

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<v Speaker 4>be here with you.

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<v Speaker 1>So first explain to us what you're running for, what

0:29:01.520 --> 0:29:04.480
<v Speaker 1>the scene looks like, Who are you running against. What

0:29:04.760 --> 0:29:06.800
<v Speaker 1>is the congressional district line.

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<v Speaker 4>So I'm running for North Carolina seventh Congressional District, which

0:29:10.320 --> 0:29:13.640
<v Speaker 4>is in the southeastern part of North Carolina. So for

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<v Speaker 4>anyone who's unfamiliar or slightly familiar, it runs the top

0:29:17.840 --> 0:29:21.120
<v Speaker 4>of it is think Fort Bragg, so Fayetteville and Cumberland County,

0:29:21.200 --> 0:29:24.120
<v Speaker 4>all the way down to Wilmington, over to Brunswick County

0:29:24.200 --> 0:29:26.920
<v Speaker 4>and back up. We have a total of eight counties,

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<v Speaker 4>but just little portions of two of them, and the

0:29:29.800 --> 0:29:33.480
<v Speaker 4>rest of them are pretty much intact. Unfortunately, this district

0:29:33.480 --> 0:29:36.800
<v Speaker 4>has changed five times in the last ten years, owing

0:29:36.880 --> 0:29:40.760
<v Speaker 4>to our expertise in Jerry manderin here in North Carolina.

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<v Speaker 4>But I think that is not going to benefit the

0:29:43.400 --> 0:29:47.160
<v Speaker 4>incumbent Republican. So I'm running against David Rouser and he's

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<v Speaker 4>pretty much been there for about ten years, we have

0:29:49.480 --> 0:29:52.040
<v Speaker 4>to say pretty much because we haven't seen him. He

0:29:52.080 --> 0:29:55.320
<v Speaker 4>hasn't done a public facing event with his constituents in

0:29:55.400 --> 0:29:59.640
<v Speaker 4>over eight years. Meanwhile, when I launched my campaign in

0:29:59.720 --> 0:30:02.680
<v Speaker 4>jill Lie, we did eight launch events in all eight

0:30:02.720 --> 0:30:06.200
<v Speaker 4>counties in eight consecutive days, because It's important to me

0:30:06.400 --> 0:30:08.640
<v Speaker 4>that the people of my district know that every single

0:30:08.680 --> 0:30:11.120
<v Speaker 4>one of them matters. I'm not just going to launch

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<v Speaker 4>in the county where I live or the county with

0:30:13.440 --> 0:30:16.640
<v Speaker 4>the biggest population density. I will be a representative for

0:30:16.680 --> 0:30:18.520
<v Speaker 4>all of these people, and I wanted all of them

0:30:18.520 --> 0:30:21.479
<v Speaker 4>to have the opportunity to meet me. So it is

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<v Speaker 4>an R five to an R seven, depending on which

0:30:24.360 --> 0:30:26.600
<v Speaker 4>report you look at. Cooks has us somewhere between a

0:30:26.720 --> 0:30:29.880
<v Speaker 4>R five and seven, But it is trending bluer, and

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<v Speaker 4>so we know it will still be an uphill battle,

0:30:32.560 --> 0:30:35.720
<v Speaker 4>as all races are, but we feel like this is

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<v Speaker 4>the moment to absolutely flip this seat and start changing

0:30:39.840 --> 0:30:42.760
<v Speaker 4>the tide in Congress. If you look at national trends,

0:30:42.920 --> 0:30:45.080
<v Speaker 4>it's in our favor as DIMS, and we think we're

0:30:45.080 --> 0:30:46.160
<v Speaker 4>going to capitalize on that.

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<v Speaker 1>Explain to us what the shift has been just from

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<v Speaker 1>the most recent election. And if you look at the

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<v Speaker 1>generic yeah, if.

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<v Speaker 4>You look at what we're seeing nationally, not even just

0:30:56.080 --> 0:30:59.960
<v Speaker 4>special elections, but also special elections, right like last November,

0:31:00.160 --> 0:31:05.520
<v Speaker 4>you saw Virginia change its legislature and give a woman governor.

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<v Speaker 4>Like you've seen so many races that were incalculable for

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<v Speaker 4>Democrats at a certain point have changed from being read

0:31:13.400 --> 0:31:16.280
<v Speaker 4>to fifteen twenty points to the left. Even in those

0:31:16.400 --> 0:31:19.520
<v Speaker 4>races where Dems haven't won, they've moved the needles so

0:31:19.640 --> 0:31:22.800
<v Speaker 4>significantly as to suggests that this blue wave that we

0:31:22.840 --> 0:31:26.480
<v Speaker 4>thought we'd get in twenty twenty is actually it's really

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<v Speaker 4>about to crash on into the waves of the political

0:31:28.640 --> 0:31:30.080
<v Speaker 4>scene in twenty twenty six.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, So, if you are running in an R plus

0:31:32.360 --> 0:31:35.800
<v Speaker 1>five on R plus six in a wave election like this,

0:31:36.400 --> 0:31:38.760
<v Speaker 1>you might not win in a tight election, but in

0:31:38.800 --> 0:31:41.280
<v Speaker 1>a wave election like this, yours is the kind of

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<v Speaker 1>seat that will absolutely flip if the numbers keep up

0:31:44.640 --> 0:31:45.840
<v Speaker 1>the spot correct.

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<v Speaker 4>And here's a thing that's also very good about our seat.

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<v Speaker 4>So I am the only Democrat in North Carolina who's

0:31:52.160 --> 0:31:54.680
<v Speaker 4>trying to flip one of the congressional seats that doesn't

0:31:54.680 --> 0:31:58.040
<v Speaker 4>have a primary. So right now, my incumbent does have

0:31:58.080 --> 0:32:00.440
<v Speaker 4>a primary. We're pretty sure he's going to out spend

0:32:00.440 --> 0:32:04.239
<v Speaker 4>his competitor, but we are not in a primary, and

0:32:04.280 --> 0:32:06.720
<v Speaker 4>that says something. It talks about the trust that the

0:32:06.760 --> 0:32:09.400
<v Speaker 4>people of the district have in me. It talks about

0:32:09.400 --> 0:32:11.600
<v Speaker 4>how ready folks are for us to just get a

0:32:11.600 --> 0:32:14.480
<v Speaker 4>really good, strong candidate in there, and that they think

0:32:14.520 --> 0:32:16.760
<v Speaker 4>that's me and I happen to agree with them on that.

0:32:16.840 --> 0:32:18.440
<v Speaker 4>I think this is the moment and I'm the one

0:32:18.440 --> 0:32:19.280
<v Speaker 4>that can get it done.

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<v Speaker 1>So tell us why you were the choice that everyone packed.

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<v Speaker 4>So one of the other roles I have is I'm

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<v Speaker 4>second vice chair of the North Carolina Democratic Party and

0:32:29.280 --> 0:32:31.800
<v Speaker 4>so as such, and I'm in my second term now.

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<v Speaker 4>So I've been all over the state. I've been all

0:32:34.480 --> 0:32:37.160
<v Speaker 4>over this district. I live in this district, and so

0:32:37.320 --> 0:32:39.600
<v Speaker 4>I know these people. I know what their issues are.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm affected by those same issues as well, and so

0:32:42.440 --> 0:32:46.840
<v Speaker 4>for me showing up for them just as a party

0:32:46.880 --> 0:32:50.600
<v Speaker 4>officer helping other candidates get elected, that gave me great

0:32:50.640 --> 0:32:53.240
<v Speaker 4>insight into what the needs are for the whole of

0:32:53.280 --> 0:32:55.320
<v Speaker 4>this district as well as for the states. So we

0:32:55.480 --> 0:32:57.960
<v Speaker 4>know how our district plays with the rest of the state.

0:32:58.240 --> 0:33:01.480
<v Speaker 4>I'm also a social worker social work professor right now,

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<v Speaker 4>but I know what it looks like when these policies,

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<v Speaker 4>like when they wanted to cut SNAP benefits or when

0:33:06.400 --> 0:33:08.800
<v Speaker 4>they want to get rid of ACA subsidies. I know

0:33:08.840 --> 0:33:11.880
<v Speaker 4>what that looks like in real time to families and communities,

0:33:12.320 --> 0:33:15.880
<v Speaker 4>not just because of the data nerd in me, but

0:33:16.040 --> 0:33:18.680
<v Speaker 4>because I've seen it. I've worked on the front lines

0:33:18.720 --> 0:33:21.800
<v Speaker 4>of it. And so in our district, District seven, we

0:33:22.080 --> 0:33:25.600
<v Speaker 4>have the highest percentage use of SNAP benefits and Medicaid

0:33:25.640 --> 0:33:28.480
<v Speaker 4>in the state, or the second highest rather, and so

0:33:28.560 --> 0:33:32.480
<v Speaker 4>that really matters because we need someone who's in this district,

0:33:32.520 --> 0:33:36.000
<v Speaker 4>representing this district to ensure that things like SNAP benefits

0:33:36.040 --> 0:33:39.320
<v Speaker 4>getting cut doesn't happen. Like he lives in this district too.

0:33:39.360 --> 0:33:41.400
<v Speaker 4>How could you know that this is what's happening to

0:33:41.440 --> 0:33:45.000
<v Speaker 4>people and do nothing. So I've spent my entire career

0:33:45.160 --> 0:33:49.080
<v Speaker 4>building bridges, working with various constituent groups on behalf of

0:33:49.120 --> 0:33:54.160
<v Speaker 4>people who are living on society's margins economically, socially, or otherwise.

0:33:54.480 --> 0:33:56.480
<v Speaker 4>And I know how to get this done. And I

0:33:56.480 --> 0:33:58.440
<v Speaker 4>think the people of my district have seen that in

0:33:58.480 --> 0:34:00.160
<v Speaker 4>me and that's why they were willing to let me

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<v Speaker 4>be the nominee.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's a really good point. You know, we

0:34:03.080 --> 0:34:07.000
<v Speaker 1>spend so much time at the state level talking about

0:34:07.160 --> 0:34:10.680
<v Speaker 1>implementing policy and so little time at the federal level

0:34:10.760 --> 0:34:14.040
<v Speaker 1>doing it. And you know, it's funny. When I'm listening

0:34:14.080 --> 0:34:16.680
<v Speaker 1>to you, I'm thinking, Oh, that's right. Congress needs to

0:34:16.800 --> 0:34:19.279
<v Speaker 1>pass things. And now that we're seeing a return to

0:34:19.400 --> 0:34:22.719
<v Speaker 1>ear marks, there is a sense where we really are

0:34:22.800 --> 0:34:26.879
<v Speaker 1>seeing legislators able to fight for the specific things that

0:34:26.920 --> 0:34:28.880
<v Speaker 1>their districts need and want.

0:34:30.160 --> 0:34:33.719
<v Speaker 4>And I think that's critical. But it's been missing. Like

0:34:34.200 --> 0:34:38.360
<v Speaker 4>the last time David Rouser had any legislation actually signed

0:34:38.400 --> 0:34:41.799
<v Speaker 4>into law was by President Barack Obama, Like it has

0:34:41.840 --> 0:34:44.840
<v Speaker 4>been ages since he has been of any consequence in

0:34:44.880 --> 0:34:47.480
<v Speaker 4>a positive way to this district. I have talked just

0:34:47.560 --> 0:34:50.520
<v Speaker 4>so many veterans, like this is the home of Fort Bragg, right,

0:34:50.560 --> 0:34:53.360
<v Speaker 4>and so we have so many veterans here who have

0:34:53.719 --> 0:34:57.280
<v Speaker 4>told me that they've written these long and passioned emails

0:34:57.280 --> 0:34:59.920
<v Speaker 4>to David and said, listen, I've had five different Price

0:35:00.080 --> 0:35:02.440
<v Speaker 4>Mary Care doctors in the last five months. Is there

0:35:02.480 --> 0:35:04.759
<v Speaker 4>anything you can do? And they get back a form

0:35:04.800 --> 0:35:07.480
<v Speaker 4>letter that's like, thank you for reaching out to our office,

0:35:07.560 --> 0:35:10.400
<v Speaker 4>Like this is not what representation looks like. There are

0:35:10.440 --> 0:35:13.440
<v Speaker 4>things that he could do to help with those veterans issues.

0:35:13.680 --> 0:35:17.040
<v Speaker 4>Water quality in our district is horrifying. We have the

0:35:17.120 --> 0:35:20.000
<v Speaker 4>p foss chemicals that are in the water and it

0:35:20.080 --> 0:35:23.480
<v Speaker 4>is impacting so many different aspects of life here, from

0:35:23.520 --> 0:35:27.480
<v Speaker 4>everybody's individual homes not having clean water coming in to

0:35:27.600 --> 0:35:31.600
<v Speaker 4>how it's affecting the fishing industry in Brunswick and Wilmington.

0:35:31.880 --> 0:35:35.200
<v Speaker 4>And he does nothing about that. So if earmarks are

0:35:35.200 --> 0:35:37.239
<v Speaker 4>a thing we can do, if your job is to

0:35:37.280 --> 0:35:39.920
<v Speaker 4>go to DC and get some of that budget called

0:35:39.920 --> 0:35:42.400
<v Speaker 4>that back so that we can do something in our

0:35:42.440 --> 0:35:44.919
<v Speaker 4>own district. He has not done any of that work.

0:35:44.960 --> 0:35:46.759
<v Speaker 4>But I can't wait to get there so I.

0:35:46.719 --> 0:35:51.279
<v Speaker 1>Can Those forever chemicals that cause cancer are a big deal.

0:35:51.560 --> 0:35:53.560
<v Speaker 1>The other thing is that there have been members of

0:35:53.560 --> 0:35:56.520
<v Speaker 1>Congress who have been good at constituent services, and maybe

0:35:56.520 --> 0:35:59.719
<v Speaker 1>they've been bad congress people, but because they've been good

0:35:59.719 --> 0:36:02.360
<v Speaker 1>at in their constituents, they still get the vote. So

0:36:02.640 --> 0:36:05.560
<v Speaker 1>it is a good sign for you in a way.

0:36:05.920 --> 0:36:08.359
<v Speaker 1>It's signed that you could flip the seat that he's

0:36:08.360 --> 0:36:10.880
<v Speaker 1>so bad at constituent services. Can you say more about that?

0:36:11.239 --> 0:36:15.040
<v Speaker 4>I have talked to countless people who have reached out

0:36:15.080 --> 0:36:17.560
<v Speaker 4>to him, either because of their own needs, like the

0:36:17.640 --> 0:36:21.360
<v Speaker 4>gentleman I was talking about earlier, about community needs like

0:36:21.400 --> 0:36:24.120
<v Speaker 4>the water issue, or just saying, hey, we don't want

0:36:24.120 --> 0:36:26.439
<v Speaker 4>you to vote for this thing, we want to tell

0:36:26.440 --> 0:36:28.920
<v Speaker 4>you how we feel about a thing, and he doesn't

0:36:29.040 --> 0:36:31.840
<v Speaker 4>respond at all, or if you can get him on

0:36:31.880 --> 0:36:34.680
<v Speaker 4>the phone, and it's been increasingly more difficult to do.

0:36:35.040 --> 0:36:38.120
<v Speaker 4>He basically just sort of talks around an issue and

0:36:38.280 --> 0:36:41.399
<v Speaker 4>paternalizes folks and that's it. And so if people feel

0:36:41.440 --> 0:36:44.279
<v Speaker 4>completely unheard. A couple of months ago, probably closer to

0:36:44.320 --> 0:36:46.160
<v Speaker 4>a year ago, a big group of folks went to

0:36:46.239 --> 0:36:49.480
<v Speaker 4>his office that he's supposed to have, the constituent office

0:36:49.480 --> 0:36:51.120
<v Speaker 4>he's supposed to have in the district, and there was

0:36:51.200 --> 0:36:52.919
<v Speaker 4>no one there, and so they did a great, big

0:36:52.960 --> 0:36:55.719
<v Speaker 4>protest out front of his office and they said, you know,

0:36:55.840 --> 0:36:59.040
<v Speaker 4>he told us eight years ago that he would do

0:36:59.160 --> 0:37:02.000
<v Speaker 4>a town hall every year, and he hasn't done one since.

0:37:02.120 --> 0:37:04.880
<v Speaker 4>And so when you feel like you know this person

0:37:05.239 --> 0:37:08.279
<v Speaker 4>is I'm paying this person with my tax dollars. It's

0:37:08.280 --> 0:37:11.080
<v Speaker 4>in the name, you're supposed to be a representative. You're

0:37:11.080 --> 0:37:13.480
<v Speaker 4>not listening to me, you're not responding to me, and

0:37:13.520 --> 0:37:16.360
<v Speaker 4>when you do, it's just an empty sleeve that starts

0:37:16.360 --> 0:37:19.719
<v Speaker 4>to make folks feel like they're unheard and unseen. And

0:37:19.800 --> 0:37:22.719
<v Speaker 4>so when I show up, it's like a breath of

0:37:22.760 --> 0:37:25.960
<v Speaker 4>fresh air because folks are like, so you genuinely want

0:37:25.960 --> 0:37:28.640
<v Speaker 4>to hear what I have to say. You're actually listening.

0:37:28.760 --> 0:37:31.760
<v Speaker 4>And there have been times where they've brought a problem

0:37:31.760 --> 0:37:33.640
<v Speaker 4>to me and I was already able to solve that

0:37:33.680 --> 0:37:36.480
<v Speaker 4>for them. And that's what this job is about. David

0:37:36.520 --> 0:37:39.239
<v Speaker 4>isn't taking it very seriously. I absolutely do.

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<v Speaker 1>I wonder if we could talk. You're in North Carolina,

0:37:43.600 --> 0:37:47.279
<v Speaker 1>which is a sort of a swingy state with a

0:37:47.920 --> 0:37:51.920
<v Speaker 1>blue governor. Will you explain to us what it's like

0:37:51.960 --> 0:37:54.239
<v Speaker 1>when you talk to people on the ground, because I

0:37:54.280 --> 0:37:57.400
<v Speaker 1>think there's been a real sea change and a real shift.

0:37:57.640 --> 0:37:59.920
<v Speaker 1>But I wonder what it's like when you talk to people.

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<v Speaker 4>I'll tell you what. We have had some really great conversations.

0:38:04.880 --> 0:38:07.640
<v Speaker 4>I we just received something on our website the other

0:38:07.719 --> 0:38:10.080
<v Speaker 4>day from a woman and her husband who have been

0:38:10.120 --> 0:38:13.840
<v Speaker 4>lifelong Republicans, and they're like, enough is enough. We're behind

0:38:13.880 --> 0:38:16.719
<v Speaker 4>you one hundred percent. It's time to listen to your constituents,

0:38:16.800 --> 0:38:20.319
<v Speaker 4>not your president. I've had moderate Republicans come up and say,

0:38:20.360 --> 0:38:22.960
<v Speaker 4>I'm a moderate Republican, but I'm all in on you.

0:38:23.160 --> 0:38:25.800
<v Speaker 4>So we've had a lot of unaffiliated folks who feel

0:38:25.920 --> 0:38:28.960
<v Speaker 4>very hurt because the issues were addressing and my campaign

0:38:29.040 --> 0:38:31.280
<v Speaker 4>sort of three legged duol is better jobs, better schools,

0:38:31.280 --> 0:38:35.120
<v Speaker 4>better healthcare. You know, they hear themselves in those issues,

0:38:35.200 --> 0:38:38.960
<v Speaker 4>and so what they're hearing is there's potential for us

0:38:39.000 --> 0:38:41.840
<v Speaker 4>to have somebody who actually cares. But why they're feeling

0:38:41.880 --> 0:38:45.080
<v Speaker 4>that way is because they feel hopeless. There's so much

0:38:45.160 --> 0:38:48.279
<v Speaker 4>frustration right now. People feel like there's nothing they can do,

0:38:48.719 --> 0:38:51.840
<v Speaker 4>and it feels kind of like there's like an unsatisfying

0:38:51.880 --> 0:38:54.320
<v Speaker 4>answer to say, well, we just have to get to November.

0:38:54.719 --> 0:38:58.280
<v Speaker 4>But I think the tide is shifting, like you mentioned before,

0:38:58.520 --> 0:39:01.319
<v Speaker 4>where all of the active is class is showing up

0:39:01.400 --> 0:39:03.600
<v Speaker 4>not just at the rallies but at ballot boxes and

0:39:03.719 --> 0:39:07.160
<v Speaker 4>municipals and special elections. And so I think there is

0:39:07.680 --> 0:39:10.160
<v Speaker 4>this sense that, you know what, we have the power

0:39:10.680 --> 0:39:12.719
<v Speaker 4>to change this if we don't like it. And so

0:39:12.800 --> 0:39:15.600
<v Speaker 4>I thought I've seen folks go from it's hopeless or

0:39:15.640 --> 0:39:18.200
<v Speaker 4>I'm scared too, I'm angry and I want to get active.

0:39:18.239 --> 0:39:21.040
<v Speaker 4>And we've heard it from across the political spectrum.

0:39:21.200 --> 0:39:24.000
<v Speaker 1>What do you think the issues are for people on

0:39:24.040 --> 0:39:25.600
<v Speaker 1>the ground in North Carolina.

0:39:26.000 --> 0:39:28.200
<v Speaker 4>I actually ask them this all the time when I

0:39:28.280 --> 0:39:30.839
<v Speaker 4>do call time, when I'm doing events, I go, what

0:39:30.880 --> 0:39:32.719
<v Speaker 4>are the issues that are top of mind for you?

0:39:33.120 --> 0:39:36.239
<v Speaker 4>Some of them do the broader like we're losing our democracy,

0:39:36.280 --> 0:39:38.919
<v Speaker 4>we have to stop fascism. We get those and those

0:39:38.920 --> 0:39:41.520
<v Speaker 4>are real. Then we have the things like that we're

0:39:41.600 --> 0:39:44.799
<v Speaker 4>talking about, you know, the Medicaid and Medicare. We have

0:39:45.160 --> 0:39:48.560
<v Speaker 4>Columbus County, which is a very very low wealth county

0:39:48.600 --> 0:39:52.480
<v Speaker 4>that has one small regional hospital and I am very

0:39:52.520 --> 0:39:54.760
<v Speaker 4>worried that it's going to close. The doctors and nurses

0:39:54.760 --> 0:39:56.880
<v Speaker 4>there are as well, and that means they will be

0:39:56.920 --> 0:40:00.000
<v Speaker 4>forty five minutes away from the next available house.

0:40:00.120 --> 0:40:01.240
<v Speaker 1>That's insane.

0:40:01.320 --> 0:40:05.440
<v Speaker 4>So healthcare and its accessibility, not even just Medicaid Medicare,

0:40:05.480 --> 0:40:09.080
<v Speaker 4>but the ability to have ready access to a place

0:40:09.080 --> 0:40:11.560
<v Speaker 4>where they can go get care, that is a real issue.

0:40:11.680 --> 0:40:15.000
<v Speaker 4>Most of North Carolina is rural, where the second most

0:40:15.040 --> 0:40:17.600
<v Speaker 4>rural state in the country. Most folks don't realize that

0:40:17.680 --> 0:40:20.120
<v Speaker 4>for some reason, but we are. And a lot of

0:40:20.200 --> 0:40:23.319
<v Speaker 4>rural community makes up my district, and so we have

0:40:23.480 --> 0:40:26.080
<v Speaker 4>farmers who were struggling too. We have folks who are

0:40:26.120 --> 0:40:30.560
<v Speaker 4>living in urban spaces where they're struggling as well. Navasa

0:40:31.520 --> 0:40:35.200
<v Speaker 4>is a superfund site, so there's all the dioxins and

0:40:35.239 --> 0:40:37.959
<v Speaker 4>the chemicals in the land. So everybody's got a thing

0:40:38.239 --> 0:40:40.799
<v Speaker 4>that sort of bespoke to where they live. But the

0:40:40.880 --> 0:40:44.280
<v Speaker 4>broader issues really are we have to take back our country,

0:40:44.680 --> 0:40:47.480
<v Speaker 4>save our democracy, and then we need to attend to

0:40:47.560 --> 0:40:52.080
<v Speaker 4>kitchen table issues. It's things like schools, it's things like jobs.

0:40:52.200 --> 0:40:56.200
<v Speaker 4>We have not raised the minimum wage in so many years.

0:40:56.239 --> 0:40:58.279
<v Speaker 4>It was my son was a child the last time

0:40:58.280 --> 0:41:00.239
<v Speaker 4>we raised it and he's in college now. So these

0:41:00.280 --> 0:41:02.759
<v Speaker 4>are all the issues that people are dealing with in

0:41:02.800 --> 0:41:05.399
<v Speaker 4>their day to day lives. Those are the ones you hear.

0:41:05.719 --> 0:41:09.000
<v Speaker 4>And then the existential issues around democracy and fascism.

0:41:09.239 --> 0:41:12.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, which makes sense. North Carolina is such a hard

0:41:12.680 --> 0:41:16.560
<v Speaker 1>state to crack like I have in a way, like

0:41:16.800 --> 0:41:20.439
<v Speaker 1>there's Zanete there. The governor is running for the former

0:41:20.480 --> 0:41:23.160
<v Speaker 1>governors running for it. Why do you think North Carolina

0:41:23.200 --> 0:41:25.640
<v Speaker 1>is so hard for Democrats to crack. This is not

0:41:25.840 --> 0:41:28.680
<v Speaker 1>about your race, just in general, because you're there.

0:41:28.680 --> 0:41:32.239
<v Speaker 4>Jerrymandering like in a nutshell, right. Like I joke with

0:41:32.320 --> 0:41:35.360
<v Speaker 4>people and say, North Carolina is great at two things,

0:41:35.400 --> 0:41:38.919
<v Speaker 4>barbecue and jerrymandering. I mean, if you look at the map,

0:41:38.960 --> 0:41:41.399
<v Speaker 4>look what they just did to NC one where Don

0:41:41.520 --> 0:41:45.719
<v Speaker 4>Davis is one of our few Democratic congressional representatives. They

0:41:45.920 --> 0:41:48.560
<v Speaker 4>just drew him out of the district and they made

0:41:48.560 --> 0:41:51.880
<v Speaker 4>it almost it looks on paper anyway, almost impossible to

0:41:51.920 --> 0:41:54.080
<v Speaker 4>win because they made it so red. If you look

0:41:54.320 --> 0:41:57.280
<v Speaker 4>at our congressional map across the state, there are little

0:41:57.320 --> 0:42:01.600
<v Speaker 4>pockets of blue, some pockets of pain. And they're doing

0:42:01.640 --> 0:42:05.360
<v Speaker 4>that with intentionality. They've been doing this since before Trump

0:42:05.440 --> 0:42:08.799
<v Speaker 4>asked for it. This time they're doing this because they

0:42:08.880 --> 0:42:11.880
<v Speaker 4>know that their policies are not popular even with their base,

0:42:11.920 --> 0:42:14.279
<v Speaker 4>and the only way they can win is to rig

0:42:14.360 --> 0:42:16.320
<v Speaker 4>it in this way. I was one of the people

0:42:16.360 --> 0:42:19.359
<v Speaker 4>that Jefferson Griffin wanted to throw out my registration when

0:42:19.400 --> 0:42:22.200
<v Speaker 4>our Supreme Court justice race for Alison Riggs was up

0:42:22.280 --> 0:42:26.880
<v Speaker 4>last cycle. I mean, how can you decide, younilaterally that

0:42:27.200 --> 0:42:30.359
<v Speaker 4>all of these votes no longer count because I'm dissatisfied

0:42:30.400 --> 0:42:32.959
<v Speaker 4>with the results of the election. We fight it out

0:42:33.000 --> 0:42:35.879
<v Speaker 4>on the battlefield of the ballot box, and if your

0:42:35.920 --> 0:42:38.919
<v Speaker 4>team loses, then you need to regroup and try again

0:42:38.960 --> 0:42:41.120
<v Speaker 4>in a way that's more befitting. But when you get

0:42:41.160 --> 0:42:43.719
<v Speaker 4>to pick who your voters are rather than letting your

0:42:43.800 --> 0:42:46.480
<v Speaker 4>voters pick who their representatives are, that is why we're

0:42:46.520 --> 0:42:49.880
<v Speaker 4>so hard to crack. And two cycles ago, our congressional

0:42:49.880 --> 0:42:53.279
<v Speaker 4>delegation was seven and seven. It looked very much like

0:42:53.440 --> 0:42:56.760
<v Speaker 4>North Carolina looks. And yet when you have a Supreme

0:42:56.760 --> 0:43:01.240
<v Speaker 4>Court that allows things like jerrymandering and the lines outside

0:43:01.239 --> 0:43:02.759
<v Speaker 4>of the timeline, this is what you get.

0:43:02.800 --> 0:43:06.120
<v Speaker 1>But they don't have a supermajority now right because of Grigs,

0:43:06.560 --> 0:43:09.680
<v Speaker 1>so they can't make as crazy laws.

0:43:09.520 --> 0:43:12.319
<v Speaker 4>Right, not as crazy. I mean, we still only have

0:43:12.480 --> 0:43:15.239
<v Speaker 4>two Democrats on the state Supreme Court. The other one

0:43:15.320 --> 0:43:18.480
<v Speaker 4>is Justice Anita Earls, who we absolutely also have to

0:43:18.520 --> 0:43:20.920
<v Speaker 4>elect in twenty twenty six. But we do still have

0:43:21.000 --> 0:43:23.440
<v Speaker 4>to flip the other three seats that will have up

0:43:23.480 --> 0:43:25.960
<v Speaker 4>in twenty twenty eight to get the majority back. We

0:43:26.040 --> 0:43:28.839
<v Speaker 4>know that this election's maps are set even with what

0:43:28.880 --> 0:43:31.360
<v Speaker 4>they did to NC one in three, so that's a relief.

0:43:31.400 --> 0:43:33.520
<v Speaker 4>But you know, there are some things that our state

0:43:33.640 --> 0:43:36.560
<v Speaker 4>legislature could be doing, Like, for example, we're the only

0:43:36.640 --> 0:43:39.680
<v Speaker 4>state in the country who still hasn't passed the state budget.

0:43:39.719 --> 0:43:43.080
<v Speaker 4>And so while they're so busy redrawing lines to give

0:43:43.120 --> 0:43:46.120
<v Speaker 4>themselves unfair advantages, the people of the state are still

0:43:46.160 --> 0:43:46.920
<v Speaker 4>without a budget.

0:43:47.080 --> 0:43:53.120
<v Speaker 1>Unbelievable, ulous, annoying, and ridiculous. So you could be the

0:43:53.280 --> 0:43:58.080
<v Speaker 1>person who makes the majority for Democrats, I could, and.

0:43:58.080 --> 0:44:00.960
<v Speaker 4>I would love that. I mean for any sort of

0:44:01.239 --> 0:44:04.880
<v Speaker 4>self aggrandizing reason, but because it's time for us to

0:44:04.960 --> 0:44:08.680
<v Speaker 4>have people in Congress who care about the people they represent,

0:44:08.760 --> 0:44:12.799
<v Speaker 4>who understand the consequential nature of the decisions that they

0:44:12.800 --> 0:44:16.600
<v Speaker 4>are making, who are driven by purpose and not by

0:44:17.040 --> 0:44:21.680
<v Speaker 4>self indulgence and personal wealth. Because the most profitable or

0:44:21.719 --> 0:44:24.880
<v Speaker 4>one of the top most profitable stock portfolios in Congress

0:44:24.920 --> 0:44:28.640
<v Speaker 4>comes from say it with me, David Rouser, right, and

0:44:28.719 --> 0:44:31.640
<v Speaker 4>so like, what are you doing up there? And I'm

0:44:31.680 --> 0:44:34.680
<v Speaker 4>happy that you're making a comfortable living, but I just

0:44:34.719 --> 0:44:37.480
<v Speaker 4>think it's so derelict for you not to make sure

0:44:37.520 --> 0:44:39.880
<v Speaker 4>that the people of your district and the people of

0:44:39.920 --> 0:44:43.240
<v Speaker 4>this state have the same opportunity to do that. Now

0:44:43.480 --> 0:44:46.200
<v Speaker 4>David also takes a lot of corporate pack money. We

0:44:46.280 --> 0:44:48.560
<v Speaker 4>don't do any of that, and so ours is a

0:44:48.600 --> 0:44:52.239
<v Speaker 4>people driven and people powered campaign. I'm so excited to

0:44:52.239 --> 0:44:55.239
<v Speaker 4>have over one thousand unique donors who have donated to

0:44:55.280 --> 0:44:58.040
<v Speaker 4>this campaign. If anyone is out there wanting to know

0:44:58.080 --> 0:45:00.640
<v Speaker 4>if they can donate, they can. Don't want to be

0:45:00.640 --> 0:45:04.360
<v Speaker 4>beholden to anyone except the voters of this district.

0:45:04.560 --> 0:45:07.520
<v Speaker 1>Will you support a congressional stock trading ban?

0:45:08.080 --> 0:45:10.200
<v Speaker 4>I do, and I've got that on my website. So

0:45:10.200 --> 0:45:12.200
<v Speaker 4>that's not even just something like someone could go and

0:45:12.239 --> 0:45:15.480
<v Speaker 4>look right now and see, I don't believe that that's

0:45:15.480 --> 0:45:17.680
<v Speaker 4>what we should be doing using the office for a

0:45:17.800 --> 0:45:18.880
<v Speaker 4>personal enrichment.

0:45:19.040 --> 0:45:22.680
<v Speaker 1>And when you're in converse tif this works. We make

0:45:22.719 --> 0:45:25.680
<v Speaker 1>sure to hold power to account, you know. And if

0:45:25.719 --> 0:45:28.120
<v Speaker 1>you feel that leadership is not doing the job they

0:45:28.120 --> 0:45:30.440
<v Speaker 1>should be, and maybe they will be, and maybe that

0:45:30.560 --> 0:45:34.400
<v Speaker 1>won't be, will you make sure to caucus with the

0:45:34.480 --> 0:45:36.840
<v Speaker 1>right group of people and make sure they do what

0:45:36.920 --> 0:45:40.680
<v Speaker 1>their job is and leadership, Absolutely, I would not have

0:45:40.880 --> 0:45:44.800
<v Speaker 1>voted in favor of this ice budget appropriation for example,

0:45:44.920 --> 0:45:47.600
<v Speaker 1>Like some stuff's just wrong. And you know, both of

0:45:47.640 --> 0:45:49.799
<v Speaker 1>my parents were in law enforcement, All the men in

0:45:49.840 --> 0:45:53.719
<v Speaker 1>my family were in the military. For me, Service and

0:45:54.280 --> 0:45:57.920
<v Speaker 1>purpose and mission have always been a part of my

0:45:58.040 --> 0:46:00.800
<v Speaker 1>life's blood. And that's what I've done as a social worker,

0:46:01.080 --> 0:46:03.359
<v Speaker 1>It's what I do as a second vice chair, It's

0:46:03.360 --> 0:46:06.360
<v Speaker 1>what I'll do as a congresswoman. I am not above

0:46:06.480 --> 0:46:08.799
<v Speaker 1>telling folks because that's what our job is, is to

0:46:08.800 --> 0:46:10.319
<v Speaker 1>speak truth to power.

0:46:10.120 --> 0:46:12.880
<v Speaker 4>And sometimes they need to hear that this is not

0:46:13.040 --> 0:46:15.240
<v Speaker 4>the right way to do a thing, and I don't

0:46:15.280 --> 0:46:16.880
<v Speaker 4>mind being the one to tell them that.

0:46:17.520 --> 0:46:21.080
<v Speaker 1>I love this. Thank you so much. It was great

0:46:21.160 --> 0:46:21.960
<v Speaker 1>to get to talk to you.

0:46:22.480 --> 0:46:26.160
<v Speaker 4>My campaign manager would be very upset with me if

0:46:26.160 --> 0:46:29.960
<v Speaker 4>I didn't tell everyone to please visit Kimberly Party for

0:46:30.120 --> 0:46:33.200
<v Speaker 4>Congress dot com. But thank you so much, Molly. It

0:46:33.239 --> 0:46:37.560
<v Speaker 4>was a real honor to talk to you today.

0:46:37.760 --> 0:46:39.840
<v Speaker 3>No moment second.

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<v Speaker 2>Jesse Caddon b the Trump administration knew about the Minnesota

0:46:46.000 --> 0:46:49.719
<v Speaker 2>fraud way before Nick Shirley's investigation, and what do you

0:46:49.760 --> 0:46:50.680
<v Speaker 2>think they did about it?

0:46:50.840 --> 0:46:54.560
<v Speaker 1>They knew about the Minnesota fraud. People were arrested and jailed.

0:46:54.680 --> 0:46:59.120
<v Speaker 1>If they will happen in twenty twenty and in twenty twenty,

0:46:59.160 --> 0:47:01.880
<v Speaker 1>the first Trump administration was worn by the state that

0:47:02.000 --> 0:47:05.080
<v Speaker 1>the nonprofit in question, Feeding Our Future, was likely engaging

0:47:05.120 --> 0:47:09.480
<v Speaker 1>in fraud, and the administration declined to get involved.

0:47:09.640 --> 0:47:10.279
<v Speaker 2>There we go.

0:47:10.680 --> 0:47:14.359
<v Speaker 1>That year, the Minnesota Department of Education asked the US

0:47:14.440 --> 0:47:18.160
<v Speaker 1>Department of Agriculture for support as it considered taking action

0:47:18.280 --> 0:47:23.759
<v Speaker 1>against the nonprofit, and the Trump administration, being lazy, shiftless

0:47:23.840 --> 0:47:29.320
<v Speaker 1>and not all that much against corruption, was not interested.

0:47:29.680 --> 0:47:34.120
<v Speaker 1>A twenty twenty four audit reported by the Minnesota legislature

0:47:34.600 --> 0:47:38.719
<v Speaker 1>examining the Feeding Our Future scandal said officials in the

0:47:38.840 --> 0:47:43.879
<v Speaker 1>Education Department complained that the USDA was unresponsive when they

0:47:43.960 --> 0:47:48.080
<v Speaker 1>asked how to deal with the problems presented by the nonprofit.

0:47:48.280 --> 0:47:51.680
<v Speaker 1>Think about that for a minute. This is Trump World

0:47:51.960 --> 0:47:56.480
<v Speaker 1>ignored the fraud, then Biden World prosecuted the fraud. Then

0:47:56.560 --> 0:48:00.480
<v Speaker 1>Trump World learned about the fraud from a uti tuber

0:48:01.120 --> 0:48:05.640
<v Speaker 1>and went and created chaos in Minnesota because they like

0:48:05.719 --> 0:48:09.000
<v Speaker 1>a Nick Shirley video. If you can't think of a

0:48:09.040 --> 0:48:12.799
<v Speaker 1>more fucked story about Trump one point zero and Trump

0:48:12.880 --> 0:48:17.680
<v Speaker 1>two point zero, I implore you incredible stuff. That's it

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