1 00:00:00,600 --> 00:00:02,960 Speaker 1: Caf I Am six forty. You're listening to the John 2 00:00:02,960 --> 00:00:08,959 Speaker 1: and Ken Show on demand on the iHeartRadio app. We're 3 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:11,879 Speaker 1: on from one until four and then after four o'clock 4 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:14,280 Speaker 1: you could hear it on the iHeart app as a 5 00:00:14,280 --> 00:00:16,600 Speaker 1: podcast John and Ken on Demand, So do that in 6 00:00:16,600 --> 00:00:20,040 Speaker 1: case you miss something. Yeah, and also tomorrow the Moist 7 00:00:20,040 --> 00:00:21,960 Speaker 1: Line is back for the first time in two weeks. 8 00:00:22,200 --> 00:00:24,680 Speaker 1: There is still room for your messages. You may make 9 00:00:24,720 --> 00:00:28,440 Speaker 1: the cut. You can use the iHeartRadio app. The microphone 10 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:30,520 Speaker 1: icon is the way to leave a message directly for 11 00:00:30,560 --> 00:00:33,239 Speaker 1: the Moist Line, or call the toll free number one 12 00:00:33,360 --> 00:00:36,960 Speaker 1: eight seven seven Moist eighty six one eight seven seven 13 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:40,280 Speaker 1: six six four seven eighty eight six. They want to 14 00:00:40,479 --> 00:00:44,159 Speaker 1: make over San Quentin Prison. We're not kidding you. The 15 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:48,280 Speaker 1: story seems like a spoof. It'll be modeled after Scandinavian countries. 16 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:51,839 Speaker 1: It's a special from the Elsagondo Times writer. It's like 17 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:53,400 Speaker 1: she was our rookie of the year last year. I 18 00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:56,520 Speaker 1: think I need a chobbing. Yes, except this is a 19 00:00:56,600 --> 00:00:58,760 Speaker 1: real newsom plan. Is she the one that went to 20 00:00:58,760 --> 00:01:01,520 Speaker 1: the homeless Island or is that a reporter? No, she 21 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 1: went to the homeless island up in Sacramento, right, she 22 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:05,480 Speaker 1: went on the island to see what the homeless people 23 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:07,760 Speaker 1: had to live with the flooding. You know what, if 24 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:10,200 Speaker 1: she'd gone this past week, she might have been washed away. 25 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:12,680 Speaker 1: San Gabriel River. There was an island there where they 26 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:14,960 Speaker 1: had to rescue in nine homeless people. I think one 27 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 1: was missing. If they found, they don't even know, because yeah, 28 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:22,840 Speaker 1: these homeless people are nameless, rootless right now, so they 29 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 1: think there was another body. I guess that's what the 30 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:27,000 Speaker 1: other vagrants were saying, but nobody else for sure who 31 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:30,640 Speaker 1: it is. Some stories are so over the top and absurd, 32 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:33,480 Speaker 1: but actually you get taken seriously by some politicians that 33 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 1: they're worth a few minutes on the show. The one 34 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:38,840 Speaker 1: we're going to talk about, we covered it yesterday, is 35 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:42,720 Speaker 1: happening in San Francisco. The Board of Supervisors seems to 36 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:47,160 Speaker 1: like the idea of handing out reparations to certain black 37 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:50,520 Speaker 1: residents of the city. Of course, not from not just 38 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:53,279 Speaker 1: from the history of slavery in the US, but also 39 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:59,240 Speaker 1: because of the War on drugs and incarceration. So we're 40 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:01,160 Speaker 1: going to talk about to somebody we've had on the 41 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 1: show before who dealt with the whole recall of the 42 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:08,399 Speaker 1: San Francisco District Attorney. Richie Greenberg is his name, and 43 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 1: he's got reject the plan dot com full of arguments 44 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:17,080 Speaker 1: as to why this is an outrageous and even racist idea, 45 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 1: he says, So let's bring him on to talk about it. Richie, 46 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 1: welcome to the show again. How are you. Thank you 47 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:24,960 Speaker 1: so much for having me here. And it's a great 48 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:31,079 Speaker 1: afternoon from San Franz Psycho. It seems like it would 49 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 1: be against the constitution to hand out money only to 50 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 1: people of a certain color. Yeah, absolutely hand out money, 51 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 1: and much further than that, much beyond that that most 52 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:46,120 Speaker 1: of the media doesn't seem to be picking up on. 53 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:52,080 Speaker 1: Is everything else besides the five million dollars per person 54 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:57,120 Speaker 1: blump some plus ninety seven thousand dollars annually for two 55 00:02:57,200 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty years, which and go to descendants for 56 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 1: those that are making under a certain level of income 57 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 1: as well per year. So beyond that complete devastating lunacy payout, 58 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 1: which is completely impossible to pay out if you multiply 59 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:19,280 Speaker 1: it out. It seems to be higher than what the 60 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:24,000 Speaker 1: GDP is of the entire state of California. But they 61 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:29,600 Speaker 1: this committee of fifteen people that came up with this plan. 62 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 1: They want to essentially set up a segregated replica of 63 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:40,160 Speaker 1: South African apartheid from years ago. They want a separate 64 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 1: black run, black administered committee that will oversee healthcare, curriculum 65 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:56,760 Speaker 1: in schools, businesses and so on, all paid for everyone 66 00:03:56,760 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 1: who was not black in San Francisco. It is a 67 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 1: complete racist monstrosity. Let me just go quickly through the numbers, 68 00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 1: because the Nationale viewed the piece on this yesterday. It's 69 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:11,120 Speaker 1: five million a person. I didn't even know about the 70 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 1: ninety seven thousand dollars for the next two hundred and 71 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 1: fifty years. Yeah, but they said it's even half of 72 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:21,640 Speaker 1: the city's black residents met the requirements, the city would 73 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:26,279 Speaker 1: be looking at one hundred and twelve billion dollars. To compare, 74 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:31,360 Speaker 1: San Francisco's entire budget per year is fourteen billion. So 75 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:35,840 Speaker 1: clearly this is impossible. Not to mention on constitutional and illegal. 76 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 1: What what is the point of this? So, I mean 77 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:43,760 Speaker 1: it could be as simple as election year or next 78 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:47,280 Speaker 1: year politics, trying to gain favor of a certain segment 79 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:53,440 Speaker 1: of the voters. Here. The plan itself actually came about 80 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:58,840 Speaker 1: shortly after the unfortunate the George Floyd defund the police 81 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 1: bl protests back in mid twenty twenty, and our mayor, 82 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 1: Mayor London Breed, along with the President of the Board 83 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:10,720 Speaker 1: of Supervisors Shaman Walton, those two were the ones that 84 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:17,040 Speaker 1: pushed this to start the reparations consideration and to have 85 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 1: the Board of Supervisors here our city council then create 86 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 1: a committee to start this. So the mayor is running 87 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 1: for re election, it would have been this year, but 88 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 1: because of a prop that past last November a few 89 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:36,560 Speaker 1: months ago, she actually got an extended year in office. 90 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 1: So I don't think she was actually planning for that. 91 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:42,560 Speaker 1: And now you know that this is all blowing up 92 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:46,560 Speaker 1: in her face because it's causing outrage even the yes. 93 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:48,280 Speaker 1: And that's why I was just going to ask you. 94 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 1: I mean, there was people right off San Francisco, but 95 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:53,839 Speaker 1: you did recall the DA, you did recall some board members. 96 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:55,599 Speaker 1: There's got to be a lot of outrage and people 97 00:05:55,640 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 1: show up at the supervisors meeting or respond in any manner. Well, 98 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:03,920 Speaker 1: actually no, and I think this is a lose lose 99 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:08,120 Speaker 1: situation for everybody. The black African American population of San 100 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 1: Francisco is going to be horrifically disappointed. There's no way 101 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:13,240 Speaker 1: that they're going to get this kind of payout. Do 102 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:19,400 Speaker 1: they would even even at the at the meeting, the 103 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:21,960 Speaker 1: board hearing the first here and a couple of days ago, 104 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:25,160 Speaker 1: there are individuals that were just screaming and yelling, cut 105 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:27,839 Speaker 1: the check, give us the money, now, cut the check. 106 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:32,840 Speaker 1: They I really they expect it, they think they deserve 107 00:06:32,920 --> 00:06:36,880 Speaker 1: it in this manner, and at that dollar amount, which 108 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 1: is absolutely you know, it's not going to happen. And 109 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:43,960 Speaker 1: and the problem as lose lose, Not only is that 110 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:47,600 Speaker 1: that segment of our population going to be terribly disappointed, 111 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 1: but everyone else that is against it publicly is then 112 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:54,720 Speaker 1: going to be labeled, you know, a racist and so on. 113 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:59,719 Speaker 1: So everyone loses. The politicians will lose, the black population 114 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 1: will lose, and everyone else that's not will lose. Is 115 00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:07,159 Speaker 1: there actually a strong constituency for this among normal people? 116 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 1: We got to be careful how we define normal, right, 117 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 1: But let's just say non activist people. Yeah, no, no, no, no, 118 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 1: I really supporting this. I mean I'm monitoring social media. 119 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 1: I myself with that website that I put up a 120 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:25,600 Speaker 1: reject of a plan dot com which goes in great 121 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 1: detail analysis of the of the reparation's plan, and you 122 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 1: can actually go there and download the sixty page plan 123 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 1: itself and look through it. Um. I mean, it's just 124 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:40,040 Speaker 1: a moombstrosity. Who are they? Supervisors? What what? I don't understand? 125 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:43,960 Speaker 1: Eleven members? Huh, Well, there's there's there's a little bit 126 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 1: of confusion there. We have a border Supervisors, which is 127 00:07:47,160 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 1: our city council. They said, create a committee, So then 128 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:56,120 Speaker 1: a committee was formed under the auspices of the San 129 00:07:56,160 --> 00:08:00,160 Speaker 1: Francisco Chapter of the Human Rights Commission. They're the ones 130 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 1: that are sponsoring the committee. And the committee is fifteen individuals. 131 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:08,480 Speaker 1: So there's a reparations committee and then there's a vorder 132 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 1: supervisors and they're not the same people. Well, where do 133 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 1: you think this is actually going to end up, like 134 00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:15,320 Speaker 1: a year or two from now, with some small amount 135 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:18,400 Speaker 1: of payments or just nothing at all. Well, even the 136 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:22,640 Speaker 1: head of the local chapter of the NAACP has just 137 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:26,680 Speaker 1: come out saying that they no longer support a monetary 138 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:31,400 Speaker 1: payout the five million plus ninety seven thousand for two years. 139 00:08:32,559 --> 00:08:36,160 Speaker 1: They even realize that this is absolutely ridiculous. And I 140 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:42,199 Speaker 1: think everyone, myself included, there are other ways to address this, 141 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:47,520 Speaker 1: including public private partnerships to help boost education and to 142 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:51,360 Speaker 1: bring up those that need to be listed up. But 143 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 1: to focus on the monetary that's the problem. There are 144 00:08:57,040 --> 00:09:00,559 Speaker 1: too many people right now, even those that are outside Francisco, 145 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:04,280 Speaker 1: that are chiming in from all other states around the nation. 146 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:08,160 Speaker 1: Money doesn't exist in San Francisco can print its own currency. 147 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:11,240 Speaker 1: So and I don't understand why anybody would spend more 148 00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:14,800 Speaker 1: than five seconds on this. It's a waste of time. 149 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:19,880 Speaker 1: There are certain people in position of power that believe 150 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:22,680 Speaker 1: that this does need to go through, including certain members 151 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:27,000 Speaker 1: of our boarders. Okay, it goes through, and then why 152 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:29,959 Speaker 1: they still don't have the money? That that's right, But 153 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 1: what eventually ultimately if it passes and they try to 154 00:09:34,520 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 1: implement that, there's going to be a wave of lawsuits 155 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:41,240 Speaker 1: including myself, I, myself, all my colleagues. No one's gonna 156 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 1: want an he held responsible for something that we that 157 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:47,640 Speaker 1: we actually had no responsibility for all and will be 158 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:51,679 Speaker 1: along the lines of the five different federal and state 159 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:55,520 Speaker 1: constitutional law that that that this goes up again. A 160 00:09:56,400 --> 00:10:00,360 Speaker 1: board of supervisors just stupid. I don't get it. Yeah, 161 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:05,720 Speaker 1: they're performative of ultra left wing. This is woke. Every 162 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:08,240 Speaker 1: word that you can think of. This is who they are, 163 00:10:08,880 --> 00:10:11,839 Speaker 1: and they just they love the spotlight. They love the 164 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:16,360 Speaker 1: public spotlight. And if this fails, which we know it will. 165 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:20,319 Speaker 1: When it fails, then if they're running for reelection or 166 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:22,520 Speaker 1: a higher officer, they could say, well, look, I fought 167 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 1: for you, I'd fought for our African American segment of 168 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:31,760 Speaker 1: the population, and you know everyone else voted against it, 169 00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:33,679 Speaker 1: So you got to vote for me because I was 170 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:35,839 Speaker 1: trying to. I was trying to to vote for you, 171 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:39,839 Speaker 1: to support you. I was fighting for you. And my 172 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 1: colleague who voted against reparations, don't vote for him. See, 173 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:45,600 Speaker 1: so it's a political point as well. All right, Richie, 174 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:47,320 Speaker 1: thank you so much for talking to us again. It's 175 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 1: reject the Plan dot com. If you want to find 176 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:52,719 Speaker 1: out more about the arguments against the San Francisco Reparations Plan, 177 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:57,040 Speaker 1: Richie Greenberg, we'll see you later. Argument number one, the 178 00:10:57,160 --> 00:11:00,640 Speaker 1: money doesn't exist, and the argument he lays out in 179 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:04,440 Speaker 1: detail what I just saw outrageous, illegal, racist. More coming up, 180 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:06,560 Speaker 1: Johnny ken k if I am six forty live everywhere 181 00:11:06,559 --> 00:11:09,600 Speaker 1: the iHeart Radio app. You're listening to John and Ken 182 00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:14,880 Speaker 1: on demand from KF I am sixty. Well on the 183 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:20,480 Speaker 1: banking front, JP Morgan, Chase, Citygroup, Bank of American, Wills 184 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:24,160 Speaker 1: Fargo going to contribute five billion dollars of deposits to help, 185 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:27,920 Speaker 1: say First Republic. Oh wait a minute, whose deposits? Whose 186 00:11:27,960 --> 00:11:32,640 Speaker 1: money is that? I guess our deposits. Well, we can't 187 00:11:32,679 --> 00:11:34,360 Speaker 1: do that. What we should put a run on the bank. 188 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:37,400 Speaker 1: If they're gonna hand over five billions, let's go get 189 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:40,559 Speaker 1: our money out. I'll tell you I do bank with 190 00:11:40,679 --> 00:11:42,960 Speaker 1: one of those four banks. And yeah, no, I saw 191 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:46,840 Speaker 1: your name on the list. It's specifically your deposits. Holy mackerel. Yeah, 192 00:11:47,679 --> 00:11:49,920 Speaker 1: they want to save another bank from going on to 193 00:11:50,040 --> 00:11:53,760 Speaker 1: First Republics having its own problems, and Credit Suis is 194 00:11:53,760 --> 00:11:55,880 Speaker 1: getting to bail out. I thought these were all capitalists. 195 00:11:55,880 --> 00:11:59,160 Speaker 1: It turns out their socialists. Credit Suis is gonna borrow 196 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:02,920 Speaker 1: fifty four billion dollars like a line of credit. That 197 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:06,800 Speaker 1: bank has been rife with corruption, corruption many years. Yeah 198 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:12,560 Speaker 1: for just incompetence or incompetence, and all right, let's turn 199 00:12:12,640 --> 00:12:16,960 Speaker 1: to uh perfect corruption and incompetence. Gavin Newsom, every game 200 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:20,319 Speaker 1: you did it, you had the right words. He is 201 00:12:20,400 --> 00:12:23,839 Speaker 1: a given up on getting the legislature to go after 202 00:12:23,920 --> 00:12:28,080 Speaker 1: the oil companies. Remember famously, last fall, when gas prices 203 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:31,640 Speaker 1: were what six seven dollars a gallon, he decided, because 204 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:34,079 Speaker 1: the election was coming up, I'll say something here, We're 205 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:36,600 Speaker 1: gonna go after the oil companies with a windfall profit tax. 206 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:39,760 Speaker 1: I'm calling a special session of the legislature in December 207 00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 1: to work on this. Well, here it is March and 208 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:47,040 Speaker 1: it's fizzled. The legislature did have some hearings, but basically said, 209 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:49,000 Speaker 1: what do you want us to do? He's got at least, 210 00:12:49,160 --> 00:12:52,760 Speaker 1: you know, seventy percent plus support in the legislature. It's 211 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:56,800 Speaker 1: one party rule. And so they convened, convened, and first 212 00:12:56,840 --> 00:12:59,960 Speaker 1: of all, they couldn't figure out why the gas prices 213 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:03,200 Speaker 1: are hiring California right right. Some of them think, hey, 214 00:13:03,280 --> 00:13:07,120 Speaker 1: before we penalize the oil companies, we should make sure 215 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:11,120 Speaker 1: that they are gouging. That's a supply problem, and that 216 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:13,200 Speaker 1: there isn't something else going on. But they can't figure 217 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:15,520 Speaker 1: it out. They've been trying for seven years to figure 218 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:19,079 Speaker 1: this out. Our pride put the taxes aside because that 219 00:13:19,360 --> 00:13:21,880 Speaker 1: is most of the problem. There's an extra twenty cents 220 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:26,200 Speaker 1: and for eight years now they've been trying to figure 221 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:28,760 Speaker 1: out why is there twenty cents more per gallon in 222 00:13:28,880 --> 00:13:31,439 Speaker 1: California than other states. But the secret that they don't 223 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:33,480 Speaker 1: want to talk about is they don't care. I'll use 224 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:35,520 Speaker 1: your line you always use. They don't care. They want 225 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:37,960 Speaker 1: the gas prices to go higher. It's just publicly they 226 00:13:38,040 --> 00:13:40,720 Speaker 1: have to pretend, oh, this is outrageous, and I feel 227 00:13:40,760 --> 00:13:43,040 Speaker 1: for the consumer. They want you out of your gas 228 00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:46,800 Speaker 1: guzzling car. Secretly, this is fine with them. They'll never 229 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:50,960 Speaker 1: say that publicly, but that's the truth. Same with Newsom, right, yeah, 230 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:53,320 Speaker 1: but they know the polls will show people are concerned 231 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:57,240 Speaker 1: because people still cars in California. He can actually fake 232 00:13:57,360 --> 00:14:00,640 Speaker 1: people out into thinking he's on their side fighting the 233 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:05,040 Speaker 1: oil companies. Plus he hits the oil companies with a 234 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:07,520 Speaker 1: windfall profits tax, they'll probably just raise prices to make 235 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:09,079 Speaker 1: some of them back. Of course they will. And the 236 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:10,959 Speaker 1: legislator said that if you have them, said that this 237 00:14:11,040 --> 00:14:13,040 Speaker 1: is going to hit the consumers eventually. We all know that. 238 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:16,640 Speaker 1: So Newsom has some more performance art now. Now they're 239 00:14:16,679 --> 00:14:24,400 Speaker 1: looking at having a bureaucracy penalize. The California Energy Commission 240 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:29,560 Speaker 1: will be given more more authority to investigate gas price 241 00:14:29,720 --> 00:14:33,800 Speaker 1: spikes and through a public hearing process, you're right to 242 00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:37,280 Speaker 1: place a cap on profits and penalized oil companies. That's 243 00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:39,280 Speaker 1: what he put out. By the way he issued it 244 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:41,600 Speaker 1: in a statement and even come out and talk about this, 245 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:43,720 Speaker 1: I think he's just trying to make this go away. 246 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:47,480 Speaker 1: That's what it is. It's the word Richie Greenberg used. 247 00:14:47,640 --> 00:14:51,120 Speaker 1: This is all performative. This is all to try to 248 00:14:51,400 --> 00:14:55,400 Speaker 1: appeal to all the mushy headed illiterates who can't read, 249 00:14:55,560 --> 00:14:58,880 Speaker 1: who can't do math. They might vaguely pay attention to 250 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:01,920 Speaker 1: a few headlines and they find out all it looks 251 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:04,800 Speaker 1: like NEWSOM is fighting those damn oil companies. I hate 252 00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:09,680 Speaker 1: those oil companies. They will shift responsibility to the Energy Commission, 253 00:15:09,760 --> 00:15:13,200 Speaker 1: but apparently the acknowledgement was thinking there'll be no requirement 254 00:15:13,280 --> 00:15:16,440 Speaker 1: for them to cap profits or penalize the oil industry, 255 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:18,920 Speaker 1: so they may do nothing. The big difference in price 256 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:23,160 Speaker 1: is the taxes, and NEWSOM added to those taxes. It's 257 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:27,200 Speaker 1: at least like a dollar thirty extra compared to other states. 258 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:29,600 Speaker 1: I know, it's just an ARIZONAM gas was three fifty nine. 259 00:15:29,600 --> 00:15:32,480 Speaker 1: I come here, it's five O nine. It's a dollar 260 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:36,840 Speaker 1: fifty difference, so they will. The bill will create an 261 00:15:36,880 --> 00:15:41,440 Speaker 1: independent watchdog authority within the California Energy Commission. This is 262 00:15:41,480 --> 00:15:45,200 Speaker 1: what Newsom is famous for creating task forces and commission members. 263 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:48,400 Speaker 1: Task Force on Homelessness remembers, Task Force on fixing the 264 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:53,960 Speaker 1: DMV remembers. That's the thing. Nobody remembers all this stuff. 265 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:56,600 Speaker 1: It all goes into a black holesomewhere. Yeah, because there's 266 00:15:56,840 --> 00:15:59,560 Speaker 1: pointless and worthless. It's it's his own way of virtue signaling. Right. 267 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:04,080 Speaker 1: Formative is the word you used, right, It's performative. It says, 268 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 1: with increased regulatory authority, the Commission will be empowered to 269 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:10,440 Speaker 1: prevent the kinds of gas price spikes that we saw 270 00:16:10,600 --> 00:16:16,120 Speaker 1: last year. Oh really, yeah, they'll be empowered. The oil 271 00:16:16,160 --> 00:16:19,280 Speaker 1: companies will be required to provide more data to help 272 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:22,680 Speaker 1: regulators understand pricing. What date, because I saw one of 273 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:25,320 Speaker 1: the legislators said that it's kind of a complex pricing 274 00:16:25,840 --> 00:16:29,320 Speaker 1: system that they have here concerning you know, the price 275 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:31,920 Speaker 1: of barrel of oil. But then you have the refinement process, 276 00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:34,360 Speaker 1: and then you have some sort of a wholesale they sell, 277 00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:36,440 Speaker 1: and then eventually have the gas station that gets you 278 00:16:36,560 --> 00:16:39,720 Speaker 1: got the distribution. Yeah, a lot of elements and maybe 279 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:46,720 Speaker 1: it's five things, so add them up. Yeah, it really 280 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:51,160 Speaker 1: isn't difficult because all products have have the same uh 281 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:55,000 Speaker 1: you know, origination price right at a factory. Even if 282 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:57,960 Speaker 1: you just make crackers, cost a certain amount to make 283 00:16:58,000 --> 00:17:01,440 Speaker 1: the crackers, certain amount to pass package them, certain amount 284 00:17:01,480 --> 00:17:04,080 Speaker 1: to distribute them, and there's a certain amount to sell 285 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:06,520 Speaker 1: them in a store. You know, there's a mark up 286 00:17:06,600 --> 00:17:10,240 Speaker 1: all along the way. I mean, business is business. It 287 00:17:10,280 --> 00:17:13,639 Speaker 1: doesn't matter what the product is now, So I mean 288 00:17:13,720 --> 00:17:16,120 Speaker 1: one of the consumer activists in this story says, well, 289 00:17:16,520 --> 00:17:18,040 Speaker 1: this is good because it gives the governor and the 290 00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:20,040 Speaker 1: commission a power to do the right thing. And if 291 00:17:20,080 --> 00:17:22,879 Speaker 1: it's not done, we'll know who's responsible. Who is that 292 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:26,600 Speaker 1: Goody good? That's Jati Court the last time where I 293 00:17:26,600 --> 00:17:29,400 Speaker 1: asked him calling she's president of Consumer Watchdog. He won't 294 00:17:29,440 --> 00:17:31,480 Speaker 1: come on the show anymore because we insulted him somehow, 295 00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:33,840 Speaker 1: Well he should be insulted, because that's a ridiculous thing 296 00:17:33,880 --> 00:17:36,879 Speaker 1: to say. It's a victory for consumers. As long as 297 00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:39,240 Speaker 1: I crossed the border to cost a dollar fifty more, 298 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:43,000 Speaker 1: there's no victory here. You're not hearing much now because 299 00:17:43,040 --> 00:17:45,840 Speaker 1: gas prices have been slowly coming down. I think we 300 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:48,040 Speaker 1: already had what do they call that, the spring hike 301 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:53,119 Speaker 1: for the summer blend of this summer blend now, unless 302 00:17:53,119 --> 00:17:54,680 Speaker 1: that's still coming, I don't know, but I heard guests 303 00:17:55,119 --> 00:17:59,240 Speaker 1: a couple of day Oh, that's where it goes up again. Well, 304 00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:04,199 Speaker 1: I don't know. Usually that's when when driving habits change 305 00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:07,159 Speaker 1: and people start traveling a lot for vacation starts with 306 00:18:07,280 --> 00:18:10,080 Speaker 1: Memorial Day weekend. I don't know when they when they 307 00:18:10,119 --> 00:18:14,720 Speaker 1: start pumping the summer blend when we return. It's a classic. 308 00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:19,600 Speaker 1: Another column from Elsagondo Times columnist and Needed Chabria, I 309 00:18:19,640 --> 00:18:22,720 Speaker 1: think last year's rookie of the year. Yeah, this is 310 00:18:22,760 --> 00:18:25,040 Speaker 1: a makeover at San Quentin where you you know, you 311 00:18:25,119 --> 00:18:26,600 Speaker 1: have the lifers in there. These are a lot of 312 00:18:26,640 --> 00:18:29,720 Speaker 1: the murderers. These are the worst of the worst. But 313 00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:34,240 Speaker 1: they'll have a new pleasant experience at San Quentin. You 314 00:18:34,320 --> 00:18:36,359 Speaker 1: will talk to you in detail what they planned to do. 315 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:41,480 Speaker 1: It's modeled after the Scandinavian type of prisons, the Northern 316 00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:46,160 Speaker 1: European systems of incarceration, where it's not about punishment, it's 317 00:18:46,160 --> 00:18:50,080 Speaker 1: about turning out people who can be good neighbors and 318 00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:53,000 Speaker 1: you'll see how they do that. You get pots and 319 00:18:53,080 --> 00:18:56,120 Speaker 1: pans and things. John and Ken caf I AM six forty, 320 00:18:56,119 --> 00:18:58,639 Speaker 1: We're live everywhere the iHeart radio apples make good weapons. 321 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:03,159 Speaker 1: Listening to John and Ken on demand from kf I 322 00:19:03,359 --> 00:19:08,480 Speaker 1: AM sixty. Yeah, the moist line is tomorrow, So a 323 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:10,840 Speaker 1: quick reminder. He's still have a chance to leave a message. 324 00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:14,280 Speaker 1: Use the iHeartRadio app the microphone icon or called the 325 00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:16,960 Speaker 1: old toll free number one eight seven seven moist eighty 326 00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:21,840 Speaker 1: six one eight seven seven six six four seven eight 327 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:25,320 Speaker 1: eight six. Oh, little knob slob ring this afternoon just 328 00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:28,119 Speaker 1: came out from the El Segundo Times. We're just talking 329 00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:31,919 Speaker 1: about dippity d Gavin Newsom. He's not going to make 330 00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:34,639 Speaker 1: a State of the State speech. Oooh. Instead he's doing 331 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:37,040 Speaker 1: a little tour of the state to speak. So he 332 00:19:37,240 --> 00:19:41,080 Speaker 1: talked about homelessness today in I think the Sacramento area, 333 00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:43,879 Speaker 1: and the headline the Times gave him, Newsom says the 334 00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:47,159 Speaker 1: state's on track to cut unsheltered homelessness by fifteen percent. 335 00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:50,119 Speaker 1: It's just there as a headline. Yeah, is that true. 336 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:53,360 Speaker 1: He vowed to provide twelve hundred tiny homes to help 337 00:19:53,359 --> 00:20:00,560 Speaker 1: achieve the goal. Yeah, I don't. I don't understand. This 338 00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:03,520 Speaker 1: is this is life now. People stand up make pronouncements 339 00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:06,280 Speaker 1: and the La Times writer says, oh, okay, that's what 340 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:10,639 Speaker 1: he said. Is that true? Do any reporters say, is 341 00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:14,159 Speaker 1: that true? Prove it? This is a big prove it, 342 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:18,560 Speaker 1: don't you think it is? Hannah Wiley and Taran Luna 343 00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:22,879 Speaker 1: are the writers. They just write that he announced that, 344 00:20:23,359 --> 00:20:26,560 Speaker 1: and then it gets a headline and people are gonna say, Okay, 345 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:30,440 Speaker 1: then he's doing the journey the term on track. Come on, 346 00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:34,879 Speaker 1: what if? What if? That means nothing. We'll know when 347 00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:38,320 Speaker 1: there's been a real, real downshift in homelessness. Just by 348 00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:40,119 Speaker 1: the way things look in La and a number of 349 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:42,560 Speaker 1: other places, you won't see that ain't happening and has 350 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:46,520 Speaker 1: not been happening. There's a hundred and seventy one thousand 351 00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:52,399 Speaker 1: vagrants in the streets. Hundred and seventy one thousand, and 352 00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:56,320 Speaker 1: one hundred and fifteen thousand of those are unsheltered by 353 00:20:56,320 --> 00:20:58,840 Speaker 1: the way that that number is way an undercount that 354 00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:02,800 Speaker 1: I agree. I agree. I bet she's at least two 355 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:06,119 Speaker 1: hundred thousand. I mean statewide. Holy Mackerel and the cities alone. 356 00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:08,320 Speaker 1: It's got to be bigger than that, but that's the 357 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:11,159 Speaker 1: number they go with. So I mean, all of this 358 00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:13,159 Speaker 1: is just made up. Oh, we're somebody just going to 359 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:15,840 Speaker 1: tell the media we house twenty thousand people. There's a 360 00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:19,800 Speaker 1: big cut. I go under under the under the overpasses, 361 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:23,840 Speaker 1: you know, and I see like thirty or forty tents 362 00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:27,679 Speaker 1: crammed underneath things we didn't see ten years ago. Now 363 00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:31,320 Speaker 1: we're seeing everywhere. Still, you've got to clean that up. 364 00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:35,120 Speaker 1: All right, Well, let's move over to the prisons, because 365 00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:36,800 Speaker 1: this is a good story. She's a good place for 366 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:39,560 Speaker 1: the homeless. Anita chabri As a columnist with the El 367 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:42,600 Speaker 1: Segundo Times who loves to loves to go out there 368 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:45,960 Speaker 1: and do columns that we just enjoy this one. California 369 00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:51,720 Speaker 1: to transform the infamous San Quentin prison with Scandinavian ideas 370 00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:56,240 Speaker 1: and rehab focus. Years ago, there was a judge who 371 00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:58,800 Speaker 1: got very angry with the California prison system. He actually 372 00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:01,720 Speaker 1: started this whole prison of relief. Yeah, and he said 373 00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:04,600 Speaker 1: you're not doing enough, particularly with healthcare and mental healthcare. 374 00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:08,080 Speaker 1: So they assigned some sort of a task force to 375 00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:10,639 Speaker 1: study ideas, and they came back and John and I 376 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:13,320 Speaker 1: laughed about this for weeks. That they thought there should 377 00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:16,920 Speaker 1: be gardens where the prisoners could roma freely. Soft music 378 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:23,359 Speaker 1: would play, There'd be lounges, uncomfortable chair aromatherapy, aromatherapy, I think, yoga. 379 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:25,840 Speaker 1: What you need to do is give the prisoners a 380 00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:30,120 Speaker 1: sense of calm and a sense of I guess pleasure. Yeah, 381 00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:35,760 Speaker 1: we're talking about psychotic murderers who have been violent since childhood, 382 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:39,959 Speaker 1: and now they thought that nice music and a pleasant 383 00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:44,720 Speaker 1: aroma is going to transform their lives. Well, she went 384 00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:50,040 Speaker 1: to Pennsylvania, to the Pennsylvania State Correctional Institute at Chester, 385 00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:54,680 Speaker 1: where they've been trying this little Scandinavia idea in one 386 00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:58,840 Speaker 1: particular unit, and she talked to somebody named Luis. He 387 00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:03,240 Speaker 1: can use force, dainless steel stoves, he's got islands pots. 388 00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:07,840 Speaker 1: He actually even has some sharp knives. He's a fridge 389 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:11,840 Speaker 1: that holds groceries from a nearby supermarket. Uh, you know what. 390 00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:14,000 Speaker 1: It doesn't say what did he do? Ken, I was 391 00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:17,040 Speaker 1: just looking. I was just thinking to myself. I read 392 00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:19,359 Speaker 1: this story and I don't remember them explaining what Louise 393 00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:23,200 Speaker 1: did to end up in prison. I relevant, John, That's 394 00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:26,000 Speaker 1: not relevant it is, because that's why he's in prison. 395 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:29,760 Speaker 1: He's in prison now for half his life. Why is that? 396 00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:34,000 Speaker 1: The vision for a new San Quentin includes job training 397 00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:37,400 Speaker 1: for careers that can pay six figures, like plumbers, electricians 398 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:42,560 Speaker 1: or truck drivers. Basically, the idea is, well, they're using 399 00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:45,760 Speaker 1: the term it's not just about reform, it's about innovation. 400 00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:49,840 Speaker 1: But what they don't want the prisoners to think they're 401 00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:52,879 Speaker 1: in prison. The idea is that, well, they don't have 402 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:57,080 Speaker 1: their freedoms. Life is essentially the same. There's a picture, 403 00:23:57,560 --> 00:24:01,640 Speaker 1: Well did you see this picture? Comfortable open living spaces 404 00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:04,080 Speaker 1: to encourage conversation and connection. It looks like a guy 405 00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:07,080 Speaker 1: walking through. It looks like a lobby of a hotel. Yeah, 406 00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:09,600 Speaker 1: a bunch of couches there and tables and it looks 407 00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:13,439 Speaker 1: comfortable and modern. So right, I guess the cells are 408 00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:15,960 Speaker 1: around it. There's little cells windows of the door. Yeah, 409 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:19,600 Speaker 1: it's it's a central like it's like an inside courtyard. Yeah, 410 00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:22,040 Speaker 1: like a courtyard. And right, and they have these these 411 00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:26,480 Speaker 1: ugly yellow couches. I mean, this is a looks like 412 00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:28,879 Speaker 1: stuff from a Ikea. But the first thing I thought of, 413 00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:30,959 Speaker 1: this is going to cost money to do a makeover 414 00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:33,000 Speaker 1: like this and bring in everything you need to make 415 00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:35,200 Speaker 1: these people feel like next door to you. It's not 416 00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:40,320 Speaker 1: going to have any effect on them. I don't think, well, 417 00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:42,359 Speaker 1: I don't know why we don't accept that some people 418 00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:49,280 Speaker 1: have brains that are are dysfunctional, and they have there's 419 00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:53,280 Speaker 1: violent impulses in those brains that can't be controlled. There's 420 00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:55,880 Speaker 1: a lack of a conscience in those brains. The conscience 421 00:24:56,040 --> 00:25:00,240 Speaker 1: is actually located in a particular structure in your rain, 422 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:05,560 Speaker 1: and some people don't develop that structure, and so they 423 00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:10,240 Speaker 1: have they don't have a conscience, so they can follow 424 00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:13,560 Speaker 1: out an impulse and the consequences don't matter to them. 425 00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:16,560 Speaker 1: It doesn't bother them. They need a Troubera presents this 426 00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:19,879 Speaker 1: as a compromise. The people on the right want you 427 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:22,359 Speaker 1: to be punished, serve hard time. The people on the 428 00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:25,800 Speaker 1: left say nobody should be incarcerated. Let's go with restorative justice. 429 00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:28,920 Speaker 1: She says, this is the in between compromise. They still 430 00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:31,640 Speaker 1: lose their freedom, but they're in a much more pleasant place. 431 00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:34,119 Speaker 1: Why do you have to compromise with a stupid idea. 432 00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:36,920 Speaker 1: They need a sense of normalcy so when they're released 433 00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:41,600 Speaker 1: from prison, it won't be such a harsh change, that's 434 00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:44,840 Speaker 1: your anside? Well, yeah, because she says, if you put 435 00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:46,720 Speaker 1: them in an ugly place, they'll just come out of 436 00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:50,359 Speaker 1: doing what they do selling dope. Pro Why is it 437 00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:54,680 Speaker 1: so hard? Everybody? Everybody gets life terms for every crime. 438 00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:59,440 Speaker 1: Why not? What would we lose? What's the downside of that? 439 00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:02,320 Speaker 1: And the people that are committing those crimes may think 440 00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:04,920 Speaker 1: twice about because I may have never come out again. 441 00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:06,880 Speaker 1: If you knew you were never going to come at again, 442 00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:10,400 Speaker 1: you wouldn't even jay walk, would you see. She dismisses 443 00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:12,800 Speaker 1: that just by saying eventually they most of them come out. 444 00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:16,679 Speaker 1: Well they shouldn't. Thirty thousand a year, she says, come 445 00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:19,480 Speaker 1: out of prison, right, and most of them men start 446 00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:21,879 Speaker 1: committing new crimes. So what did you prove that? We 447 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:24,200 Speaker 1: know from the last some years they've produced a prison 448 00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:26,760 Speaker 1: population so low. Yeah, that's happening. So this is the 449 00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:29,400 Speaker 1: big Scandinavian idea. You give them a nice yellow There's 450 00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:32,480 Speaker 1: two guys playing chess and comfortable chairs. You see that picture, 451 00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:37,960 Speaker 1: they're playing chess. Have you ever been to Scandinavia? No? 452 00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:39,600 Speaker 1: You know what. I thought about going this year, but 453 00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:41,560 Speaker 1: I'm not. But I would like to. I spent a 454 00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:44,920 Speaker 1: couple of days in Sweden. I don't think this is 455 00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:47,879 Speaker 1: going to be positives. No, the Swedish people are nothing 456 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:52,000 Speaker 1: like anything I've ever seen in America. If you have 457 00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:55,520 Speaker 1: a yeah, like the Danish all right, which is yeah, 458 00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:58,000 Speaker 1: I was, I was in Amsterdam, So you were in Denmark? 459 00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:02,440 Speaker 1: I was, yeah, okay, did you see this scene during 460 00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:07,440 Speaker 1: rush hour? Amsterdam's the Netherlands, Denmark? H what's what's Copenhagen is? 461 00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:10,920 Speaker 1: That's where the all right? I was in Copenhagen and 462 00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:16,320 Speaker 1: during rush hour they had hundreds of bikes written by 463 00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:21,920 Speaker 1: business people information. They're all wearing theirs in the Netherlands too. Yeah, 464 00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:23,639 Speaker 1: that's pretty cool looking. Yeah yeah, and they all had 465 00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:25,880 Speaker 1: their they'll kill you too. Don't cross that street. They're 466 00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:28,960 Speaker 1: little little briefcases are in a basket. And but the 467 00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:31,640 Speaker 1: thing is, it's like, I forget how many across, baby, 468 00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:34,240 Speaker 1: you know, two, three, four across, And it just went 469 00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:36,119 Speaker 1: on and on and on, and they all stopped at 470 00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:38,880 Speaker 1: the light together, and they all moved through the intersection. Again, 471 00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:41,800 Speaker 1: they're robots with dull conformities. What I'm saying, if you 472 00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:44,680 Speaker 1: had a prison full of those people, well then yeah, 473 00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:49,560 Speaker 1: you could have restorative justice because look how pleasant and calm. 474 00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:53,040 Speaker 1: Of course, the Danish I don't think commit a whole 475 00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:55,639 Speaker 1: lot of crime. I'm just guessing by the ambiance of 476 00:27:55,680 --> 00:28:00,720 Speaker 1: the country. It's it's a pretty quiet place. I'm sorry there. 477 00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:06,520 Speaker 1: You can't compare gang members to people who ride bikes 478 00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:13,040 Speaker 1: in formation and you know what too, Oh John does say. 479 00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:17,920 Speaker 1: Luis was originally convicted of first degree murder. That inmate 480 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:19,679 Speaker 1: the beginning of the story. It's at the end here 481 00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:23,120 Speaker 1: recently resentenced to a change of laws for juvenile offenders. 482 00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:26,200 Speaker 1: He could be paroled in five years. Okay, so so 483 00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:29,440 Speaker 1: he is a first degree murder. That's the worst. Yeah, 484 00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:34,600 Speaker 1: so he's at seventeen. At seventeen instead of being in school, 485 00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:37,480 Speaker 1: he killed somebody, and I'm sure he had a good reason. 486 00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:40,640 Speaker 1: I'm what are you gonna do with somebody like that? 487 00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:43,080 Speaker 1: You know, you look at these pictures and you see 488 00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:44,800 Speaker 1: the poverty we have in California. This would be a 489 00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:46,680 Speaker 1: pretty nice place to go for someb of these inmates 490 00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:49,400 Speaker 1: might be an incentive to They might get their own 491 00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:51,240 Speaker 1: room or maybe just one cellmate. They got all this 492 00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:54,320 Speaker 1: common area. Everything looks new and modern. They can play chess, 493 00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:58,800 Speaker 1: they can cook, they can get groceries. All right, we 494 00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:01,800 Speaker 1: got more coming up. Johnny Ken kf I am six forty. 495 00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:05,120 Speaker 1: We're live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. You're listening to 496 00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:12,480 Speaker 1: John and Ken on demand from KFIM sixty. I was 497 00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:17,440 Speaker 1: just looking up the safest countries based on crime and 498 00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:19,720 Speaker 1: US News and World Report have a list of eighty 499 00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:23,720 Speaker 1: five countries. The number one country is Switzerland, number two. 500 00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:31,040 Speaker 1: Mike I was saying, Denmark, No, that, New Zealand, Norway, Sweden, Finland. 501 00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:33,840 Speaker 1: See that that makes the case for their Scandinavian style 502 00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:37,440 Speaker 1: punishment or does it make the case for their population? 503 00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:41,440 Speaker 1: What does that mean? Well, is it that the people 504 00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:46,040 Speaker 1: are just there, quieter and calmer there? Well, look at it. 505 00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:49,200 Speaker 1: Cold weather makes I don't know a lot of darkness. 506 00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:50,920 Speaker 1: I don't know what it is. You know what we are. 507 00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:53,480 Speaker 1: We're forty seventh. I'll bet you in the winter, they're 508 00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:55,200 Speaker 1: a lot of crime because there's just no daylight. Well, 509 00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:57,400 Speaker 1: maybe it is the weather. I don't know, But I 510 00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:00,239 Speaker 1: don't think it's the prisons that make it safe. They 511 00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:02,320 Speaker 1: don't have guns, that's what it is. There's no guns 512 00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:05,000 Speaker 1: in those countries. I don't know there was some mass shootings. 513 00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:07,200 Speaker 1: Wasn't there a Newegian guy that went nuts? Bunch of kids? 514 00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:09,240 Speaker 1: It was always one There's always one guy. Yeah, I know, 515 00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:13,080 Speaker 1: I know, but it's kind of amazing. I switched. Japan's 516 00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:19,480 Speaker 1: not on the list. Canada seventh, Netherlands Netherlands eight, Singapore. Um, 517 00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:26,680 Speaker 1: they get tough on people, can't you. Japan is sixteenth? Right, Well, 518 00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:28,000 Speaker 1: there was a lot of countries in the world that's 519 00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:30,640 Speaker 1: not bad. Plan twenty first, do they have a bottom list? 520 00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:35,800 Speaker 1: And you said the US was what forty seven? Yeah, no, 521 00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:39,120 Speaker 1: I believe that they have. They have eighty five countries 522 00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:42,720 Speaker 1: listed here. But you know, one of the reasons we 523 00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:44,920 Speaker 1: are like that is because we do give people a 524 00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:48,440 Speaker 1: lot of freedoms. Uh, Scandinavian countries have socialist governments, said, 525 00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:51,600 Speaker 1: you know, a sort of little Nimby rules and stuff 526 00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:54,400 Speaker 1: like that. I mean, and you have commonist country have Singapore. 527 00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:57,280 Speaker 1: I mean, these are very harsh places. So yeah, but 528 00:30:57,440 --> 00:30:59,520 Speaker 1: John likes that. So is that what you wanted? I 529 00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:07,080 Speaker 1: think is the way to go? H oh, yeah, go ahead, 530 00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:10,720 Speaker 1: because do you mean human beings can't handle freedom? I know, 531 00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:15,000 Speaker 1: well we can't. But now you're making the case for you, 532 00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:18,280 Speaker 1: the socialist Democrats who want to run the communist government, 533 00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:20,520 Speaker 1: who want to run everything, the economy, And we went 534 00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:25,360 Speaker 1: through this yesterday. I acknowledge that human beings are terrible, right, 535 00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:29,040 Speaker 1: I just don't want a government controlling them. Well, then 536 00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:32,760 Speaker 1: it's really chaos. Well that's what we have here. It's 537 00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:36,600 Speaker 1: kind of what we have. But the government can't fix 538 00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:39,920 Speaker 1: it anyway. So but that's why. But again the answer 539 00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:41,920 Speaker 1: is people want to come here from all over the world. 540 00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:44,440 Speaker 1: Why is that make money? Because they know they have 541 00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:46,800 Speaker 1: a chance. Exactly, this is the place to make money. 542 00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:49,320 Speaker 1: And yet we're told by these woke progressives, as you were, 543 00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:52,920 Speaker 1: the most racist, unbelievably repressive society. Are you kidding me? 544 00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:56,120 Speaker 1: Go somewhere else and live there for a while. You 545 00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:58,520 Speaker 1: know what, you go to Norway. There's not much diversity there, 546 00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:02,880 Speaker 1: There is not. And not Japan either, No, not a 547 00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:05,120 Speaker 1: heck of a lot. No, they don't. Japan, I believe, 548 00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:09,240 Speaker 1: does not let anyone in for immigration. New Zealand's tough. 549 00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:12,280 Speaker 1: They have huge restrictions on who can come into the country. 550 00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:14,800 Speaker 1: So no, they can do that too, because they're an island. 551 00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:18,320 Speaker 1: Coming up after three o'clock is at the end of TikTok. Oh, 552 00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:21,880 Speaker 1: I'm so hurt by this, but there is a move 553 00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:24,880 Speaker 1: in our government to tell the company that owns TikTok 554 00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:26,920 Speaker 1: they better sell or else they could be banned in 555 00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:30,320 Speaker 1: the US. Be talking Orange County Supervisor Don Wagner, because 556 00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:34,160 Speaker 1: they made a move in Orange County to forbid people 557 00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:38,760 Speaker 1: that are using Orange County government devices from using TikTok. 558 00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:41,880 Speaker 1: And we'll talk about all this with Don after the 559 00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:46,080 Speaker 1: news at three o'clock. Well, back to one of our 560 00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:49,200 Speaker 1: favorite subjects that comes well, it came around yesterday, it's 561 00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:54,560 Speaker 1: back today, masking. We have an interesting story from a 562 00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:56,680 Speaker 1: guy that apparently made a lot of money in the 563 00:32:56,760 --> 00:33:00,880 Speaker 1: technology world. He's supposedly worth two hundred and thirty million dollars. 564 00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:04,280 Speaker 1: His name is Steve Kirsch. He recently got on a 565 00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:08,160 Speaker 1: flight and decided he's sitting there in first class and 566 00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:12,600 Speaker 1: decided he'd have some fun with the masked passenger in 567 00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:15,600 Speaker 1: first class next to him. He started offering her a 568 00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:18,280 Speaker 1: hundred dollars to remove her mask. He made it all 569 00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:21,800 Speaker 1: the way up to a hundred thousand dollars to remove 570 00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:25,320 Speaker 1: her mask on the flight. Doesn't look like she took 571 00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:28,960 Speaker 1: his offer no, he tweeted, I'm aboard at delta flight 572 00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:31,280 Speaker 1: right now. The person sitting next to me in first 573 00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:34,480 Speaker 1: class refused a hundred grand to remove her mask for 574 00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:41,640 Speaker 1: the entire flight. He told her that I started the 575 00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:43,560 Speaker 1: bidding at one hundred. I pointed out that when she 576 00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:45,840 Speaker 1: removed the mask for eating and drinking, she could be 577 00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:50,280 Speaker 1: infected with one breath, so she had full disclosure. She 578 00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:52,640 Speaker 1: took off her mask as soon as the breakfast was served. 579 00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:59,000 Speaker 1: Everyone knows you can't get infected while eating breakfast. I 580 00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:02,280 Speaker 1: always thought that was one of the stupidest things about 581 00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:05,400 Speaker 1: the rules. Here. You go to a restaurant and you 582 00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:11,280 Speaker 1: could pull it down to eat and drink bites and SIPs, 583 00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:14,320 Speaker 1: bites and SIPs that you wear the mask until you 584 00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:15,800 Speaker 1: get to the table, too, Right, you get to in 585 00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:17,480 Speaker 1: front door, you have to wear the mask, get to 586 00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:20,080 Speaker 1: the table, you take it off. Well, he's supposed to wait, 587 00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:23,279 Speaker 1: He's right's supposed to wait until you're about to drink 588 00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:25,040 Speaker 1: something or eat something, and then you pull the mask 589 00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:26,680 Speaker 1: down briefly and you can show it right back up 590 00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:28,800 Speaker 1: and you got The only person that did that was 591 00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:32,560 Speaker 1: Barbara Frere. I think in all of La County, and 592 00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:40,840 Speaker 1: you got to hold your breath like Garcetti did when Oh, anyway, 593 00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:42,319 Speaker 1: he was trying to make the point, Well, you gave 594 00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:44,640 Speaker 1: her a whole speech about how masks don't really make 595 00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:49,120 Speaker 1: any difference. But I do get an urge to want 596 00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:52,239 Speaker 1: to start shouting at some of these people. I saw 597 00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:55,600 Speaker 1: a grown man in front of our building as I 598 00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:59,040 Speaker 1: was walking in. And the guy's middle aged, he's got 599 00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:03,759 Speaker 1: gray hair, he's tall, and he's carrying his little precious lunch, 600 00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:06,399 Speaker 1: probably a whole food's lunch. And he's got a big 601 00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:08,960 Speaker 1: white mask on his face over his nose and everything. 602 00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:12,560 Speaker 1: I'm looking. What are you doing? I just wanted to 603 00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:15,320 Speaker 1: grab him and shake him. What are you doing? He 604 00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:20,200 Speaker 1: may have underlying condition he's by himself outdoors, Well, yeah, 605 00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:21,600 Speaker 1: that part of the trip. He shouldn't have to wear 606 00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:29,880 Speaker 1: the map outdoors walking by himself. This guy made a 607 00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:33,040 Speaker 1: joke that next time I'll try to sit somebody sitting 608 00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:35,239 Speaker 1: next to somebody has an account at Silicon Valley Bank 609 00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:40,000 Speaker 1: map because they could use the one hundred thousand dollars. Yeah, 610 00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:44,200 Speaker 1: of course this. A lot of people responded to this. 611 00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:47,200 Speaker 1: Some people thought he was horrible to do this. When 612 00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:49,200 Speaker 1: a jackass. She paid for first class. He has to 613 00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:51,880 Speaker 1: deal with an idiot in her personal space. I love 614 00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:55,400 Speaker 1: that expression. Well those those are those are mask calls 615 00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:58,560 Speaker 1: who were getting angry with him. Yeah, well yeah, I 616 00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:01,759 Speaker 1: have a tolerance. I I have everything. I keep them. 617 00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:04,120 Speaker 1: I have no intention to confront anybody wearing a mask. 618 00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:06,560 Speaker 1: I want to mock themselves. So what it doesn't like 619 00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:08,120 Speaker 1: you always like to say, what does it matter to you? 620 00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:13,200 Speaker 1: It it inflames me, It triggers me, So we'll control 621 00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:15,600 Speaker 1: your triggering. I don't know everyone else is getting triggered 622 00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:17,800 Speaker 1: over stupid stop that's mine. And now you're one of 623 00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:20,400 Speaker 1: them down one of them. Yeah, one of these triggered 624 00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:24,239 Speaker 1: people who wants to make everybody do what you do 625 00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:27,759 Speaker 1: because what I do is right. Jeremaphobe. All right, when 626 00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:29,960 Speaker 1: we come back, we'll be talking. We got a lot 627 00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:31,640 Speaker 1: to get to in the three o'clock hour, but we're 628 00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:35,320 Speaker 1: gonna start with Orange County Supervisor Don Wagner and the 629 00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:39,040 Speaker 1: announcement that the Orange County government, if you're an employee 630 00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:42,359 Speaker 1: and you use any of the government devices, they give 631 00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:45,120 Speaker 1: you a phone or an iPad or something, you cannot 632 00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:49,960 Speaker 1: use TikTok while on the job. The explanation we've been 633 00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:51,840 Speaker 1: hearing about it is that it may not be safe. 634 00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:56,040 Speaker 1: It is, of course, all connected to the government of China. 635 00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:58,359 Speaker 1: Coming up next, Johnny Ken, caf i Am six forty 636 00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:01,239 Speaker 1: Live everywhere, the iHeartRadio Deeper Mark Live, the twenty four 637 00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:03,759 Speaker 1: hour Cafe on Newsroom. Hey, you've been listening to the 638 00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:05,839 Speaker 1: John and Ken Show. You can always hear us live 639 00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:09,000 Speaker 1: on caf i Am six forty one pm to four 640 00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:12,200 Speaker 1: pm every Monday through Friday, and of course anytime on 641 00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:14,359 Speaker 1: demand on the iHeartRadio app.