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Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to the short stuff. I'm Josh, and

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Speaker 1: there's Chuck, and there's Jerry. Let's get busy. Bring me

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Speaker 1: a dream, Josh. That's a good song. It's catchy. It is.

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Speaker 1: It's been in some movies, including Halloween. Right, played during

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Speaker 1: the end credits of Halloween, and I can't remember for

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Speaker 1: Back to the future. Oh really, yeah? Was it the credits?

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Speaker 1: Uh no, it was night you can only be used

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Speaker 1: in the credits. Uh no. Marty goes back to and

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Speaker 1: I believe it's one of the first songs he hears.

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Speaker 1: He goes into Hill Valley and um, that song very famously,

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Speaker 1: Mr Sandman is what we're talking about. Everyone was a big,

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Speaker 1: big hit in the year nineteen fifty five from the coredets.

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Speaker 1: Nice that's a great band name to the cordette. Yeah, acapello, ladies.

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Speaker 1: What more do you want in the nineteen fifties? Uh? Nothing? Um,

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Speaker 1: maybe civil rights that kind of thing, but at least

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Speaker 1: you could hear that song while you're fighting for right. Um.

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Speaker 1: So this this Sandman that's mentioned in the Mr Sandman

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Speaker 1: is actually not a fifties um uh a character. It

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Speaker 1: was actually from way earlier, probably out of Central and

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Speaker 1: characters that arose from Central and Eastern Europe's preoccupation with

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Speaker 1: the duality of darkness and light in the same human being,

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Speaker 1: just like in Santa Claus. That's right, when you wake

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Speaker 1: I guess you have sleep in your eye crusties. We

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Speaker 1: don't have an official house name for it, but that's

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Speaker 1: these are names have always called it. Yeah, sleep, that's

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Speaker 1: I had a house name for it. Yeah, so I've

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Speaker 1: but that's technically that's different. Huh. An eye booger occurs

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Speaker 1: during the daytime. Sleep is like the crusty stuff that

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Speaker 1: let me ask you this. Have you ever woken up

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Speaker 1: with such a copious amount of sleep um or eye

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Speaker 1: boogers whatever you want. I don't say what you're about

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Speaker 1: to say that, like your your your eyes crusted shut

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Speaker 1: But yes, it has happened to me before where I'm like,

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Speaker 1: Well there's a name for it. There's a real scientific

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Speaker 1: you know, it comes out of your eyes. It dries

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Speaker 1: you might be told, it might have been told that

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Speaker 1: the sandman had come and visited you and sprinkled sand

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Speaker 1: then that's that's what it was. And you would think,

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Speaker 1: apparently this is a byproduct of the mechanism by which

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Speaker 1: the Sandman spun your dreams. It was the Sandman who

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Speaker 1: is responsible for your dreams, which is why the Cordets

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Speaker 1: asked the sand Man to bring them a dream, because

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Speaker 1: that's where your dreams came from, the Sandman. That's right. Uh,

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Speaker 1: we don't know exactly where the Sandman comes from, but

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Speaker 1: we do have some ideas, uh, and we're going to

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Speaker 1: I promised the origin of the Sandman. We don't know

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Speaker 1: for positives, it was not metallica, but UM. In eighteenth

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Speaker 1: little kids who don't go to sleep, and your eyes

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Speaker 1: Hans Christian Anderson put out a fairy tale. Do you

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Speaker 1: want to pronounce this? I can Are you ready for this?

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Speaker 1: I was practicing. I looked it up. Really, Ula lukey wow,

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Speaker 1: weird that CON's Christian Anderson doesn't just call him the Sandman.

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