1 00:00:11,240 --> 00:00:13,640 Speaker 1: Sometimes I promise you, guys, I'm gonna promise you again, 2 00:00:13,760 --> 00:00:17,200 Speaker 1: you're not wasting your time watching the show or listening 3 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:20,960 Speaker 1: to this show. Everything that seems to be happening these days. 4 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:23,160 Speaker 1: A lot of you have DM me eh. 5 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:25,599 Speaker 2: Yuki, guys talked about this two months ago. Sure did. 6 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:28,240 Speaker 1: I have confidence that we're very well sourced on a 7 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:30,160 Speaker 1: lot of what's going on in college football right now. 8 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:33,840 Speaker 1: Can't share the sources, can share the information, and I'll 9 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:35,680 Speaker 1: do even more of it tonight. I don't really care 10 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:38,600 Speaker 1: what we're talking about on multiple fronts. We're well covered 11 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:40,879 Speaker 1: on this show. I appreciate you guys. You know who 12 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:42,720 Speaker 1: you are that take care of us behind the scenes. 13 00:00:42,720 --> 00:00:45,159 Speaker 1: We're jam packed, we're high a top, sort of a 14 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:49,960 Speaker 1: discombobulated downtown Nashville, Tennessee. Late Kick, Thursday, February twenty second, 15 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 1: Hear of Our Lord twenty twenty four. There's no more hypothetical, 16 00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:56,800 Speaker 1: there's no more wondering who's right and who's wrong about 17 00:00:56,800 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 1: the future of the playoff. They've exposed themselves now. And 18 00:00:59,800 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 1: if you don't know what I'm talking about, don't worry. 19 00:01:02,320 --> 00:01:04,280 Speaker 1: Not for the faint of heart, this show tonight, not 20 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 1: for the faint of heart, but I'll lead the show 21 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:09,160 Speaker 1: with it. I've got some thoughts on Alabama Notre Dame. 22 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:11,880 Speaker 1: Psychosis has set in a little bit. That's that thing 23 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:14,520 Speaker 1: where people lose all sense of reality and boundaries and 24 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:17,679 Speaker 1: logic when it comes to talking about certain things, Notre 25 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:21,679 Speaker 1: Dame being one of them. I'll discuss tonight. Coaches are 26 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:24,080 Speaker 1: chirping back and forth at each other. Half of them 27 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:26,920 Speaker 1: are saying we're overworked, the other half saying, suck it up, 28 00:01:26,959 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 1: deal with it. We are blessed to have this job, 29 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 1: and I'm over here like it could be some truth 30 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:34,640 Speaker 1: in both avenues. But I've got some pretty strong takes 31 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:36,640 Speaker 1: on that. You know that I've spoken about this at length. 32 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:38,399 Speaker 1: I will do it again tonight, but from a much 33 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:41,560 Speaker 1: different angle because we actually have quotes not for me, 34 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:45,959 Speaker 1: but from coaches. Also, I decided I have four more 35 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:48,559 Speaker 1: mystery teams than I need to talk about. We did four, Jesse. 36 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:50,000 Speaker 1: I think the other night we got some more that 37 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:52,600 Speaker 1: we need to do. So we're jam packed as jam 38 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:55,720 Speaker 1: packed could possibly be. This could be a September show tonight, 39 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 1: that's how jam packed we are. They're watching us in 40 00:01:57,520 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 1: a Lansing Michigan, probably east of as well. They're watching 41 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 1: us in San Antonio, Texas, South Men, Indiana, and Vydalia, Georgia. 42 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:07,440 Speaker 1: I would advise you guys to be following on the 43 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:11,360 Speaker 1: socials at Lake Kick Josh. I will be somewhere next Wednesday. 44 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:15,400 Speaker 1: I will sit down with a major head coach. I 45 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 1: will have a full length conversation with that head coach, 46 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:22,400 Speaker 1: probably on the show next Thursday, or we may just 47 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 1: drop it Wednesday. I don't know, but the Paid State 48 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 1: Speaker series is about to crank up, and that means 49 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:28,920 Speaker 1: a lot of behind the scenes access and content for 50 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:31,080 Speaker 1: you guys. And I don't know how long we're going 51 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 1: to be on the road. The only thing I'm guaranteeing you, 52 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 1: I'm guaranteeing I'm going to Iowa State at some point 53 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 1: this spring. That much I can assure you. But that's 54 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 1: not where I'm going next week. So we're about to 55 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 1: have a lot of fun this spring, because who in 56 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:46,360 Speaker 1: the world wants to sit cooped up in an office 57 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:49,120 Speaker 1: building downtown when we could get out on the road 58 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:52,520 Speaker 1: and be living life. And it overlaps with storm chasing season. 59 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 1: Got my eyes on a system possibly rolling through the 60 00:02:55,480 --> 00:02:58,239 Speaker 1: South next Wednesday, So conflict of interest. 61 00:02:57,960 --> 00:02:59,800 Speaker 2: There anyway at Lake Kick Josh. 62 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 1: All right, that's the fun and games portion of the show, 63 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:04,760 Speaker 1: and there will be more fun later in the show. 64 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 1: But it's time for the pin drop. I went and 65 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:12,920 Speaker 1: talked to director Colin moments before the show. I said, Colin, 66 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 1: I feel like we need a little something extra for 67 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 1: this a block. I feel like people need to have 68 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 1: their fears calmed. And even if you are scared and 69 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 1: your fears aren't calmed, I want you to know that 70 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:27,400 Speaker 1: you have an ally. And so director Colin went and 71 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:29,920 Speaker 1: got the starter logs, and he went and got the 72 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:31,680 Speaker 1: accelerant because we didn't have a lot of time to 73 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 1: build it, and voila, we're doing the fireside chat again tonight. 74 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 2: So yeah, thank you, Colin. 75 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:40,560 Speaker 1: I sume, man, if you're on a podcast, if you 76 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:43,600 Speaker 1: can't see us live, it's toasty. 77 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 2: It's very toasty. 78 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 1: Air conditions cranked way down in the studio tonight, Colin, 79 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 1: here's your endpoint fireside chat time. What's going on with 80 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:56,040 Speaker 1: the college football playoff? I know you saw the headlines, 81 00:03:56,040 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 1: and if you didn't, a couple of pendulums swung in 82 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 1: our sport yesterday okay, the first one sounded like this 83 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 1: Pete fammeil ESPN. According to sources, the idea of a 84 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 1: fourteen team. 85 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:09,360 Speaker 2: College football playoff was discussed by. 86 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:12,680 Speaker 1: The Management committee at meetings in the Dallas area today. 87 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 1: If that happened, it would begin in twenty twenty six. 88 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:18,719 Speaker 1: Nothing is imminent, but it's a significant idea that was discussed. 89 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 1: You may be thinking to yourself, how can they expand 90 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 1: to fourteen? We haven't even had a season of twelve. 91 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:26,719 Speaker 1: The answer is, these people were disingenuous about twelve all along. 92 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 2: They were never stopping at twelve. 93 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:30,400 Speaker 1: If you watch this show, that's not breaking news to 94 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:33,440 Speaker 1: you because it was so easy to see. Ray Charles 95 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:35,440 Speaker 1: could have written an entire song about it. So we're 96 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 1: past that already. There's no freak out. We're not shocked 97 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:43,800 Speaker 1: by that. But another pendulum swung yesterday. I think a 98 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 1: lot of you participated in this one. You know that 99 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:48,600 Speaker 1: you and I. Some of you and I have had 100 00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 1: our differences in the past about what's best for college football. 101 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:55,800 Speaker 1: Should we have the BCS model, Should we have twelve 102 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:59,360 Speaker 1: team playoff a fourteen playoff? Should we have the BCS 103 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:03,360 Speaker 1: computer seed the playoff instead of having a committee, all 104 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:05,800 Speaker 1: different sorts of odds and ends, and everyone's got their 105 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:09,680 Speaker 1: own take on it. But what I noticed yesterday for 106 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:14,039 Speaker 1: the first time is massive amounts of people who I 107 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:17,280 Speaker 1: know in the past have been pro expansion had their 108 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:17,919 Speaker 1: eyes open. 109 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:19,960 Speaker 2: You realized what's happened. 110 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:23,640 Speaker 1: You realized these people had this as the end goal 111 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 1: all along. They gas lit you, they got you to 112 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 1: go along with it, and then yesterday, all of a sudden, 113 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:31,480 Speaker 1: this headline comes out and a lot of the expansionist 114 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 1: crowds like, hold on, that's not what we signed up for. 115 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:37,400 Speaker 1: You're absolutely right, it's not what you signed up for. 116 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:40,279 Speaker 1: But it is what you signed up for. You just 117 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:42,599 Speaker 1: didn't know it. They pulled the bait and switch on 118 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:44,880 Speaker 1: you know, you signed up for something, and unbeknownst to you, 119 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 1: there was a little box checked down in the far corner, 120 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:49,599 Speaker 1: and you signed up for emails and marketing that you 121 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:51,599 Speaker 1: never wanted. I didn't sign up to be on this 122 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:54,360 Speaker 1: email list. Yeah you did, you just didn't read the 123 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 1: fine print. So here's what I wanted to do tonight, 124 00:05:57,160 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 1: not and I told you so. Deal whatsoever, I realized 125 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:04,040 Speaker 1: that over the span of six twelve months, we add 126 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:06,800 Speaker 1: hundreds of thousands of people to this show, and so 127 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:10,040 Speaker 1: a lot of people are new here, and they don't 128 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:12,920 Speaker 1: know why we feel the way we feel, or why 129 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:14,960 Speaker 1: I feel the way I feel. There are a lot 130 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:17,560 Speaker 1: of folks who want college football playoff expansion out there. 131 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:21,040 Speaker 1: You feel however you want to. I've felt a certain 132 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:22,880 Speaker 1: type of way about it for a long time. But 133 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 1: I noticed in the back and forth I have in 134 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:27,000 Speaker 1: a lot of cases, a lot of you are confused 135 00:06:27,040 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 1: as to how someone could feel the way I feel. 136 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:31,279 Speaker 1: Why in the world would you push back against this stuff? Well, 137 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 1: I think the answer to that is also the answer 138 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:38,559 Speaker 1: in which you can understand a lot of what's going 139 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:41,840 Speaker 1: on here, Like why would these people be of this mentality? 140 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:44,760 Speaker 1: Why can't these people leave well enough alone? When is 141 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:48,039 Speaker 1: enough enough? You've probably found yourself asking a lot of 142 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:51,280 Speaker 1: those questions lately, even if you are pro expansion, because 143 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 1: I know good and well a lot of you out 144 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:56,359 Speaker 1: there wanted a sixteen model or an eighteen model, or 145 00:06:56,440 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 1: maybe some of you wanted twelve teams. But even you're 146 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:03,880 Speaker 1: looking and saying fourteen sixteen, like, where. 147 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:09,320 Speaker 2: Does it stop? It doesn't, That's the whole point. It doesn't, And. 148 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:12,240 Speaker 1: Some of us kind of had that feeling from the 149 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:14,280 Speaker 1: get go, But forget about that, okay, So let me 150 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 1: tell you why I feel the way I feel, and 151 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 1: you can you can chime in, disagree with me, or 152 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:21,520 Speaker 1: add on to it, whatever you want to do. But 153 00:07:21,600 --> 00:07:24,080 Speaker 1: I wanted to go fireside chat here because I wanted 154 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:26,840 Speaker 1: to explain to you where are my mind's at on this. 155 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 1: I was against college football playoff expansion because I thought 156 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:36,559 Speaker 1: what's happening now was probably the most likely path. 157 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:38,680 Speaker 2: Candidly, if you told me. 158 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 1: That we would expand this thing to six or even 159 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 1: eight teams and stop there, I would have been okay 160 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 1: with it. But I knew there was no world where 161 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 1: these folks would expand this to six or eight period. 162 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:52,560 Speaker 1: And even if they did, there was no world where 163 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:54,920 Speaker 1: they expanded it to six or eight and then stopped 164 00:07:54,960 --> 00:07:56,840 Speaker 1: and threw the key in a lake never to be 165 00:07:56,880 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 1: found again. 166 00:07:57,600 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 2: They were always. 167 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 1: Going well past that because the people don't have the 168 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:05,200 Speaker 1: greater good of college football in their mind. It's not 169 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:08,440 Speaker 1: the interests that they're serving. They're serving their own interests. Okay, 170 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:10,760 Speaker 1: that sucks, but it is what it is. That's what 171 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 1: we have to deal with right now. The reason I 172 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 1: feel the way I feel, the reason I'm totally fine 173 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 1: leaving it even pre playoff in the BCS model, is 174 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:22,440 Speaker 1: because my love of college football's never been rooted in 175 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:25,800 Speaker 1: the postseason. And that's different than Major League Baseball. That's 176 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:28,000 Speaker 1: different than the way I watched the NFL, where I'm 177 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:31,239 Speaker 1: worried about playoff in Super Bowl. College football is one 178 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:34,720 Speaker 1: of one for me. There's nothing else out there like it. 179 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:37,840 Speaker 1: There's no cops, there's no parallel. Therefore there is no 180 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:40,200 Speaker 1: other sport I look at and say college football needs 181 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:44,000 Speaker 1: to be more like that. Right there, college football was fine. 182 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:48,120 Speaker 1: It was fine the way it was, and a lot 183 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:52,320 Speaker 1: of folks enjoyed Saturdays just because they were Saturdays. And 184 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:55,079 Speaker 1: whether you had Georgia Tech face in North Carolina, both 185 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:58,200 Speaker 1: teams three or four losses already on the resume, it's 186 00:08:58,400 --> 00:09:02,160 Speaker 1: it's meaning not derived from whether or not there were 187 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:04,440 Speaker 1: postseason implications. 188 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:06,120 Speaker 2: On the line. It was just that we had. 189 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:08,800 Speaker 1: A ton of teams, like over one hundred teams playing 190 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 1: a sport we kind of recognized most of them aren't 191 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:12,679 Speaker 1: capable of winning. 192 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:14,120 Speaker 2: A national championship. 193 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:18,280 Speaker 1: It's ludicrous to tie their meaning and their worth to 194 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:22,120 Speaker 1: access to winning that championship because there are vast gulfs 195 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:25,680 Speaker 1: in resources team to team, program to program, and so 196 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:30,439 Speaker 1: once upon a time, logic prevailed more or less. And 197 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:33,000 Speaker 1: you know, if you were a Louisiana Tech fan, you 198 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:35,800 Speaker 1: did not pretend to be playing the same sport as 199 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:40,480 Speaker 1: the University of Alabama. Then someone came along and changed 200 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:42,480 Speaker 1: all of it. And if you're new to this sport, 201 00:09:42,679 --> 00:09:45,080 Speaker 1: you maybe fifteen years old, and a lot of this 202 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:47,280 Speaker 1: happened before you were able to walk in chew gum. 203 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 1: At the same time, let me explain to you a 204 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:53,319 Speaker 1: very very quick snapshot of what's happened, because I got 205 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:56,200 Speaker 1: papers all over the place. You don't really need to 206 00:09:56,240 --> 00:09:58,760 Speaker 1: be well read on this because it's happened in other 207 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 1: sectors of society long before it happened in college football. 208 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:05,400 Speaker 1: Here's basically all you need to know. A bunch of 209 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:09,280 Speaker 1: people who really didn't care about college football so much. 210 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:12,400 Speaker 1: They more cared about deepening their pockets. A bunch of 211 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:15,520 Speaker 1: people came along and they saw college football, and college 212 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 1: football was really, really good. But it was good for fans. 213 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:24,040 Speaker 1: It wasn't necessarily fully leveraged from a profit maximization standpoint, 214 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:26,280 Speaker 1: and they realized, well, we could make a whole lot 215 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:30,320 Speaker 1: more money on this thing, and so, being absent of 216 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:33,960 Speaker 1: central leadership, no one stopped them. They just walked in 217 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:37,839 Speaker 1: the door and they built themselves an ATM, but they 218 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:40,960 Speaker 1: called it a playoff. See, they built the ATM so 219 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:43,559 Speaker 1: it would print money, but they didn't call it an ATM. 220 00:10:43,600 --> 00:10:45,800 Speaker 2: They called it a college football playoff. 221 00:10:46,040 --> 00:10:50,160 Speaker 1: Part two came when they gas lit everyone into thinking 222 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:52,960 Speaker 1: it was needed, and they would point things out like 223 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:55,720 Speaker 1: two thousand and four, that's an imperfect season. We had 224 00:10:55,760 --> 00:10:58,679 Speaker 1: an undefeated team be left out. How could we ever 225 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:02,559 Speaker 1: continue this sport? Lack of a playoffs an existential threat. 226 00:11:02,559 --> 00:11:04,880 Speaker 1: And they talked about the betterment of the game, the 227 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:07,720 Speaker 1: best interest of college football. They talked about the best 228 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:11,640 Speaker 1: interest of a sport they couldn't care less about. They 229 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:15,040 Speaker 1: cared about leveraging it. They didn't care about the sport itself. 230 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:18,480 Speaker 1: And then when the playoff comes around, the next order 231 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:22,760 Speaker 1: of business was they used mass marketing to redefine what 232 00:11:22,960 --> 00:11:26,840 Speaker 1: meaning actually was. Once upon a time, meaning was I'm 233 00:11:26,920 --> 00:11:29,120 Speaker 1: waking up on Saturday and my team's playing your team, 234 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:30,800 Speaker 1: and it's college football. It's great, but all of a 235 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:33,200 Speaker 1: sudden that wasn't good enough anymore. What worked for a 236 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:36,000 Speaker 1: million years wasn't good enough all of a sudden, It's 237 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:39,160 Speaker 1: about who's in. Remember that marketing campaign. It got thrown 238 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:40,840 Speaker 1: in your face. It got sprayed in your face like 239 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:44,920 Speaker 1: a fire hose. Every single waking hour of every day 240 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:47,760 Speaker 1: that you watched programming, it was about who's in, who's 241 00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:50,839 Speaker 1: in the playoff That's what meaning is. After all, If 242 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:52,760 Speaker 1: you're playing a game in early November and you're out 243 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:53,680 Speaker 1: of the playoff race. 244 00:11:53,559 --> 00:11:54,720 Speaker 2: That's a meaningless game. 245 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:58,280 Speaker 1: Only in about the past decade have we started to 246 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:02,760 Speaker 1: popularize phrases like meaningless game in college football. You ever 247 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:04,960 Speaker 1: wonder why that's only popped up in the last decade. 248 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:07,240 Speaker 1: You ever wonder why Bowl opt outs only really popped 249 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 1: up in the last decade. It's not cause the NFL 250 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:13,400 Speaker 1: all the sudden started paying millions of dollars. Therefore, guys 251 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:16,640 Speaker 1: didn't want to risk their draft status. NFL was paying 252 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:18,440 Speaker 1: big money in two thousand and five, just as much 253 00:12:18,440 --> 00:12:21,800 Speaker 1: as they were in twenty fifteen. The difference is the 254 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:24,840 Speaker 1: adults in the room told the kids on the field. 255 00:12:24,880 --> 00:12:25,920 Speaker 2: It's not a playoff game. 256 00:12:25,960 --> 00:12:29,360 Speaker 1: It's meaningless, And how dare those kids, they listened to 257 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:31,280 Speaker 1: the adults. They get accused of not doing it all 258 00:12:31,280 --> 00:12:34,080 Speaker 1: the time. They listened to the adults. And so then 259 00:12:34,120 --> 00:12:36,920 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you realize you got a problem. 260 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 1: And the same group that had the flamethrower in their 261 00:12:40,679 --> 00:12:44,440 Speaker 1: hand and set the forest on fire put the flamethrower down. 262 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:47,079 Speaker 1: And then they went and bought a fire truck and 263 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:49,079 Speaker 1: drove it right up and had the audacity to tell 264 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:51,400 Speaker 1: you we're here to put out the fire. We need 265 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:54,560 Speaker 1: to expand the playoff more, because that's how games will 266 00:12:54,559 --> 00:12:55,200 Speaker 1: get meaning. 267 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:56,599 Speaker 2: Now. Games had meaning. 268 00:12:56,400 --> 00:12:59,240 Speaker 1: Forever before that crowd came along. But then all of 269 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:01,720 Speaker 1: a sudden, the games don't have meaning anymore. Why are 270 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:06,960 Speaker 1: these games not meaningful? In November, I know we'll create 271 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:10,360 Speaker 1: more of what caused the problem, And lo and behold, 272 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:13,440 Speaker 1: people went along with it again, and folks like me 273 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:17,520 Speaker 1: who pushed back on it were called Neanderthals knuckle draggers, 274 00:13:17,559 --> 00:13:19,160 Speaker 1: Like how can you resist change? 275 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:23,239 Speaker 2: How could you say no to more football? Josh? I 276 00:13:23,320 --> 00:13:24,960 Speaker 2: love football, love it. 277 00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:28,000 Speaker 1: I love money. I don't love it. I love the 278 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:29,960 Speaker 1: idea of having a lot of it. But at the 279 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:32,480 Speaker 1: same time, I know what happens to the money I 280 00:13:32,520 --> 00:13:35,840 Speaker 1: do have. If you start printing it endlessly, it's actually 281 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:38,480 Speaker 1: happening right now, and it devalues that currency. 282 00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:41,200 Speaker 2: Read up on it. Kids, It's actually a pretty big problem. 283 00:13:41,440 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 1: Therefore, loving something does not automatically mean you want as 284 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:47,760 Speaker 1: much of it as you can possibly have, because of 285 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:51,160 Speaker 1: basic rules of scarcity. Well, these people don't teach that 286 00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:54,280 Speaker 1: in their courses. But all of a sudden, now we 287 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:57,280 Speaker 1: sit here and the same crowd that brought you from 288 00:13:57,320 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 1: two to four and now from four to twelve, and 289 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:01,640 Speaker 1: may we never have twelve because we may go to 290 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:04,240 Speaker 1: fourteen or sixteen. They're telling you, don't worry. This will 291 00:14:04,240 --> 00:14:07,120 Speaker 1: address the problem. The games will have meaning. Now, the 292 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:10,240 Speaker 1: games had meaning. The games had meaning. It's just that 293 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:13,320 Speaker 1: a bunch of dudes in suits came along and they 294 00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:16,640 Speaker 1: convinced you that access to a playoff was like college 295 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:19,120 Speaker 1: football's version of oxygen. And if you don't have access 296 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:21,760 Speaker 1: to that, if you're not in the chase for the playoff, 297 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:26,800 Speaker 1: your games have no meaning. That playoff was built by men, 298 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:31,560 Speaker 1: That playoff was created very recently. The things that make 299 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:35,680 Speaker 1: college football great have been around decades and decades and decades, 300 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:39,680 Speaker 1: and you could call it man made, but really it 301 00:14:39,720 --> 00:14:41,000 Speaker 1: was created by culture. 302 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:43,560 Speaker 2: It was created by years and years and years of. 303 00:14:43,560 --> 00:14:47,240 Speaker 1: Doing something and enjoying something and sharing something communally. 304 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:51,160 Speaker 2: And then it saddens me that you let a. 305 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:53,680 Speaker 1: Group of clowns come in wearing suits, so you know 306 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:56,720 Speaker 1: they must be legit, and we just allowed them to 307 00:14:56,800 --> 00:14:59,360 Speaker 1: redefine it. That's kind of the sad part. So if 308 00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:01,760 Speaker 1: you want to know what I push back on expansion, 309 00:15:02,040 --> 00:15:04,360 Speaker 1: if you want to know why I hardlined my stance 310 00:15:04,400 --> 00:15:06,160 Speaker 1: at the outset, if you want to know why I 311 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:08,760 Speaker 1: didn't want to compromise and just give a little, it's 312 00:15:08,760 --> 00:15:12,080 Speaker 1: because there was never giving a little in this equation. 313 00:15:12,520 --> 00:15:14,520 Speaker 1: There was either winning or you let go of the 314 00:15:14,600 --> 00:15:18,960 Speaker 1: rope completely. So I'm very respectful about the pushback and 315 00:15:19,040 --> 00:15:21,160 Speaker 1: the counter arguments that I get on some of this, 316 00:15:21,200 --> 00:15:23,120 Speaker 1: because there's a lot of what about ism. 317 00:15:23,240 --> 00:15:25,960 Speaker 2: And what about that I get a lot is wow. 318 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:29,000 Speaker 1: So you're saying you don't want an expanded playoff, You're 319 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:30,240 Speaker 1: absolutely right, That's what I'm saying. 320 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:30,560 Speaker 2: Okay. 321 00:15:30,640 --> 00:15:33,520 Speaker 1: So are you saying that you're okay with like a 322 00:15:33,560 --> 00:15:38,120 Speaker 1: two thousand and four Auburn being left out? And I'm saying, yeah, 323 00:15:38,360 --> 00:15:41,880 Speaker 1: I am. I don't like that it happened. I'm not 324 00:15:42,040 --> 00:15:45,200 Speaker 1: claiming there's a perfect system out there. The BCS system 325 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:48,680 Speaker 1: wasn't perfect. The four team system is not perfect. What 326 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:51,640 Speaker 1: I'm looking for is I am looking for the system 327 00:15:51,960 --> 00:15:57,600 Speaker 1: that most maximizes relevance on the regular season and least 328 00:15:57,800 --> 00:16:02,800 Speaker 1: attaches the need for post season inclusion as a basis 329 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:06,560 Speaker 1: for that meaning in the regular season and so there's 330 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:10,320 Speaker 1: going to be instances. Two thousand and four, Auburn gets 331 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:12,240 Speaker 1: screwed out of a spot to play for a championship. 332 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:15,720 Speaker 2: Sucks. It was still the best system in my mind. 333 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:17,840 Speaker 2: Two thousand and what was it, Jesse? Like fourteen? 334 00:16:17,880 --> 00:16:20,920 Speaker 1: You had the whole TCU Baylor thing and neither of 335 00:16:20,960 --> 00:16:21,800 Speaker 1: them make the playoff. 336 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:24,200 Speaker 2: It's tough. It's tough. 337 00:16:24,400 --> 00:16:26,240 Speaker 1: And if I'm a Baylor fan and I'm a TCU fan, 338 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:28,360 Speaker 1: I'm not interested in listening to this right now. If 339 00:16:28,400 --> 00:16:30,560 Speaker 1: I'm an O for Auburn, I'm not interested in listening 340 00:16:30,600 --> 00:16:32,560 Speaker 1: to this. Florida State last year, I'm not interested in 341 00:16:32,560 --> 00:16:35,320 Speaker 1: listening to this. It's almost better if you're talking about 342 00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:37,760 Speaker 1: the greater good of the sport that you're not aligned 343 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:40,120 Speaker 1: with a team like I'm not a fan of a team, 344 00:16:40,440 --> 00:16:43,440 Speaker 1: so I can sit here and look at the sport holistically. Frankly, 345 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:46,240 Speaker 1: it's one of the things that I think bad actors 346 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:48,680 Speaker 1: in the room have been able to successfully use against 347 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:51,640 Speaker 1: people is emotion because they know you're attached, you're a 348 00:16:51,680 --> 00:16:52,640 Speaker 1: fanatic of a team. 349 00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:55,480 Speaker 2: That's great, you should be. But they also know that. 350 00:16:56,120 --> 00:16:59,480 Speaker 1: It's as easy as telling you Penn State fan, it's 351 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:02,040 Speaker 1: as easy telling you forget. 352 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:02,760 Speaker 2: What they're saying about. 353 00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:07,040 Speaker 1: Meaning, in the regular season, under this model, your team, 354 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:11,520 Speaker 1: Penn State, you'll have a percentage wise much better shot 355 00:17:11,560 --> 00:17:12,480 Speaker 1: at a playoff spot. 356 00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:13,800 Speaker 2: Now what do you say about that? 357 00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:16,119 Speaker 1: Well, a lot of people who don't know how to 358 00:17:16,119 --> 00:17:19,080 Speaker 1: think deeper than the top layer of soils say, I'm 359 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:21,720 Speaker 1: in where do I sign up a playoff spot? That 360 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:26,000 Speaker 1: would be great, never considering what the collateral damage is 361 00:17:26,040 --> 00:17:29,000 Speaker 1: to the sport, not the team Penn State, but the 362 00:17:29,080 --> 00:17:33,000 Speaker 1: sport overall. Like I said, college football is one of one. 363 00:17:33,680 --> 00:17:35,840 Speaker 1: I don't care how they do it in the NFL. 364 00:17:36,119 --> 00:17:38,640 Speaker 1: This is not the NFL. They have trades in the NFL. 365 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:41,720 Speaker 1: Do you want Oklahoma State trading their linebacker to Clemson 366 00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:43,000 Speaker 1: two weeks before the season starts. 367 00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:44,360 Speaker 2: Do you ever think this through. 368 00:17:44,400 --> 00:17:46,480 Speaker 1: When you said, well, the NFL does it, why doesn't 369 00:17:46,480 --> 00:17:47,280 Speaker 1: college football do it? 370 00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:48,280 Speaker 2: They're not the same thing. 371 00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:50,680 Speaker 1: The shape of the ball, the dimensions of the field 372 00:17:50,720 --> 00:17:53,040 Speaker 1: are about the only things that are the same between 373 00:17:53,119 --> 00:17:53,520 Speaker 1: those two. 374 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:56,080 Speaker 2: Well, march madness works fine, it sure does. 375 00:17:56,320 --> 00:17:58,359 Speaker 1: What was your favorite college basketball game you watched in 376 00:17:58,440 --> 00:18:00,879 Speaker 1: the last week? For the percent of you, the answer 377 00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:03,400 Speaker 1: is incomplete. You're not watching now because you know right 378 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:05,560 Speaker 1: now is irrelevant because you don't have to watch until 379 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:09,399 Speaker 1: March or April. So I'm not interested in duplicating a 380 00:18:09,680 --> 00:18:14,240 Speaker 1: formula that has rendered its own regular season irrelevant for the. 381 00:18:14,160 --> 00:18:16,000 Speaker 2: Sake of a postseason. We've got that. 382 00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:19,120 Speaker 1: If you want that, you've got it. It's called college basketball, 383 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:22,760 Speaker 1: and I'm totally fine with it. I'm enamored with march 384 00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:25,720 Speaker 1: madness in the NCAA Tournament, but I don't want college 385 00:18:25,720 --> 00:18:30,040 Speaker 1: football turning into that. So in closing, let me say this, 386 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:34,080 Speaker 1: because I will be accused of certain things after having 387 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:36,480 Speaker 1: done this segment. This is not the end of the world. 388 00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:41,800 Speaker 1: It's not cataclysmic. It's not like deaf content or anything 389 00:18:41,880 --> 00:18:44,880 Speaker 1: like that. College football will go on. College football will 390 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:49,359 Speaker 1: be fine. But every change that's made to this sport 391 00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:55,080 Speaker 1: is either for the betterment or for the detriment, or 392 00:18:55,119 --> 00:18:58,960 Speaker 1: in the middle. And I think this is far left 393 00:18:59,080 --> 00:19:02,360 Speaker 1: of middle, and it is detrimental to the overall help 394 00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:06,159 Speaker 1: of the sport. Not fatal, you know, not terminal, but 395 00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:06,560 Speaker 1: it's not. 396 00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:09,080 Speaker 2: Good for the sport. And I don't like it at all. 397 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:12,679 Speaker 1: And I think that maybe in some ways there's a 398 00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:16,080 Speaker 1: little bit of too little, too late that comes in here. 399 00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:18,800 Speaker 1: I do at least take Actually I don't take any 400 00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:21,639 Speaker 1: solace at all in people seeing that some of us 401 00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:24,800 Speaker 1: were right about this, because it doesn't matter. It's not 402 00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:27,760 Speaker 1: like all of a sudden they hit the rewind button 403 00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:29,800 Speaker 1: once a certain amount of people say, oh, I guess 404 00:19:29,840 --> 00:19:32,520 Speaker 1: you were right after all. No, in fact, I think 405 00:19:32,560 --> 00:19:34,359 Speaker 1: we let off a lot of segments we did about 406 00:19:34,359 --> 00:19:36,440 Speaker 1: this by saying I think I'm going to be right 407 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:38,119 Speaker 1: about this, but I hope I'm wrong, because if I 408 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:40,440 Speaker 1: am right, there will be no pleasure in being right, 409 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:44,520 Speaker 1: because at that point something bad's happened, well, looks like 410 00:19:44,560 --> 00:19:47,480 Speaker 1: something bad maybe in the process of happening, not bad. 411 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:50,720 Speaker 1: Across the board, some of you smaller and smaller in 412 00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:52,560 Speaker 1: number by the day, but some of you will still 413 00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:57,359 Speaker 1: even like this, because hey, man, meaning that playoff, that 414 00:19:57,840 --> 00:19:59,960 Speaker 1: is what we get meaning from this day and age. 415 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:03,040 Speaker 1: All right, let's move on. We got a jam packed 416 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:08,760 Speaker 1: show tonight. I mean, we've got a ton to get to. Yeah, 417 00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:10,639 Speaker 1: let's go ahead and do it. All right, So I 418 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:12,560 Speaker 1: need to talk to you about something. We do this 419 00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:15,840 Speaker 1: three times a year, maybe maybe four times a year. 420 00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:18,199 Speaker 1: Not take a sip from the chalice. I do this 421 00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:22,399 Speaker 1: multiple times per show. No, I need to talk to 422 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:26,199 Speaker 1: you about a team. But it's a very very interesting thing. 423 00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:27,879 Speaker 1: If you notice the way we stack the show. A 424 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:31,879 Speaker 1: lot of times we take the team's specific content and 425 00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:34,200 Speaker 1: it may be later in the show because we want 426 00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:37,600 Speaker 1: the content that reaches the broadest audience to lead the show. 427 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:38,959 Speaker 2: The inverted pyramid approach. 428 00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:45,159 Speaker 1: So this is the exception to the rule because I 429 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:46,919 Speaker 1: need to talk to you about one team. But the 430 00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:51,240 Speaker 1: thing about it is it's still broadly applicable because literally 431 00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:54,560 Speaker 1: everyone weighs in on this team, and I need to 432 00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:56,240 Speaker 1: talk to you. And I'm going to do my best 433 00:20:56,240 --> 00:21:00,000 Speaker 1: not to sound condescending here, but I'm gonna sound pretty condescending. 434 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:02,440 Speaker 2: So whatever, Colin, let's do it. Oh, here's your endpoint. 435 00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:06,239 Speaker 1: Notre Dame's been talked about a lot this week in 436 00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:08,840 Speaker 1: case you haven't noticed, and it is my opinion long 437 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:12,320 Speaker 1: has been that Notre Dame football is the most misunderstood 438 00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:14,080 Speaker 1: brand in college football. 439 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:15,639 Speaker 2: This week's no different. 440 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:19,200 Speaker 1: So you've had several big names across the sports media 441 00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:23,760 Speaker 1: sphere calling them irrelevant and asking what have they done? 442 00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:26,960 Speaker 1: You know, you love that, what have they done? Calling 443 00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:30,080 Speaker 1: them overrated? And that's the age old go to with 444 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:32,879 Speaker 1: Notre Dame. Well they're overrated, and like what are they rated? 445 00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:34,040 Speaker 1: Do you want to know what they're rated? 446 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:35,480 Speaker 2: No? No, they're just overrated. Cool. 447 00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:39,040 Speaker 1: Okay, So let's just attack these one by one. I'm 448 00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:40,879 Speaker 1: not going to spend an hour on this, I promise 449 00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:45,359 Speaker 1: you irrelevant the claim that Notre Dame is irrelevant. I 450 00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:49,800 Speaker 1: mean people with even a basic understanding of search engine 451 00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:53,639 Speaker 1: optimization principles or the data that we ingest from this show, 452 00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:58,800 Speaker 1: or web traffic or just engagement period understands Notre Dame 453 00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:01,040 Speaker 1: could go oh to twelve this year. They would be 454 00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:04,800 Speaker 1: a monster. They are as relevant as relevant gets in 455 00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:08,560 Speaker 1: the college football space. Case in point, some of the 456 00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:12,760 Speaker 1: people calling them irrelevant are talking about them in February 457 00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:16,640 Speaker 1: when it pertains to college football. That's the definition of relevance. 458 00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:20,160 Speaker 1: So that one's the easiest one to shoot down. Part two. 459 00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:23,960 Speaker 1: What if they won, Well, they've been a double digit 460 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:27,040 Speaker 1: game winner six of the past seven years. That's what 461 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:30,200 Speaker 1: they've won. They've won football games. But Josh, they haven't 462 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:33,200 Speaker 1: won championships. No, they haven't. I haven't said they did well. Josh, 463 00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:36,240 Speaker 1: they haven't won playoff games. They sure haven't. I'll get 464 00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:38,040 Speaker 1: to that in a second. You ask me what have 465 00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:41,080 Speaker 1: they won, I'm telling you they've won a ton of 466 00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:44,560 Speaker 1: football games. They've won more than almost anyone who plays 467 00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:47,760 Speaker 1: this sport. Well, Josh, that's easy cause they don't play anybody. 468 00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:52,000 Speaker 1: It's one of the biggest myths in college sports. Notre 469 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:55,120 Speaker 1: Dame plays a week schedule. Notre Dame. I don't know 470 00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:59,119 Speaker 1: how many times consecutively. These folks have to play somewhere 471 00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:01,720 Speaker 1: between the top twenty and or top ten even strength 472 00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:04,440 Speaker 1: of schedule for folks to understand that's a myth. 473 00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:05,440 Speaker 2: That's a myth. 474 00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:09,200 Speaker 1: You don't have to have Florida's twenty twenty four schedule 475 00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:12,640 Speaker 1: to have a valid strength of schedule. Like, there are 476 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:16,920 Speaker 1: degrees of this stuff. You're not great or trash. Your 477 00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:21,240 Speaker 1: schedule is not elite or cupcake city. There are degrees here. 478 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:23,520 Speaker 1: I know it's not popular to speak like that, but 479 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:26,800 Speaker 1: Notre Dame plays a very solid schedule every year, a 480 00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:29,159 Speaker 1: lot closer to the top of the heap than the 481 00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:32,400 Speaker 1: bottom of the heap. But Josh, they get beat when 482 00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:35,920 Speaker 1: they face elite teams. You're right most of the time 483 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:38,880 Speaker 1: recently they have. So what are we talking about there, 484 00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:41,560 Speaker 1: because that just bleeds right back into that whole they're 485 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:44,440 Speaker 1: overrated thing. How do you know they're overrated? Well, because 486 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:46,919 Speaker 1: they get beat when they face elite teams. But what 487 00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:47,719 Speaker 1: are they rated? 488 00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:49,800 Speaker 2: So what are they? 489 00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:52,320 Speaker 1: They're not as good as Alabama recently, no one said 490 00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:55,320 Speaker 1: they are. They've been beaten by Clemson a few times. 491 00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:58,440 Speaker 1: No one said they're better than Clemson though, especially those 492 00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:02,320 Speaker 1: vintage mid twenty teen Clemson teams that beat by Ohio 493 00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:04,440 Speaker 1: State last year pushed them to the wire but got beat. 494 00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:08,120 Speaker 1: Who out there is touting Notre Dame's program as being 495 00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:11,080 Speaker 1: better than Ohio State. I've seen nobody. I don't see 496 00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:14,119 Speaker 1: Notre Dame fans do that. So we just listed what 497 00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:18,280 Speaker 1: three teams Georgia. No one would list Notre Dame above Georgia. 498 00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:23,199 Speaker 1: My point is I just ran down four names. You 499 00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:25,800 Speaker 1: notice how you start running out of programs you feel 500 00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:29,200 Speaker 1: are definitively better than Notre Dame after you get through 501 00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:33,160 Speaker 1: that first wave. That's the whole point. Notre Dame's not overrated. 502 00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:36,200 Speaker 1: Notre Dame would only be overrated if they were rated 503 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:39,600 Speaker 1: above those teams and those programs they're not. So how 504 00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:44,200 Speaker 1: about this, I'm just gonna humbly offer this take. Notre 505 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:47,760 Speaker 1: Dame is a pretty good program, better than most not elite. 506 00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:51,440 Speaker 1: There's a lot of very good about Notre Dame's program 507 00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:54,520 Speaker 1: and team. There's very little elite at the moment about 508 00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:57,560 Speaker 1: Notre Dame's program and team. They are rock solid, they 509 00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:01,360 Speaker 1: got good culture. It's a very strong brand. They've been 510 00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:04,560 Speaker 1: a top twelve recruiter on average the last five cycles. 511 00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:08,879 Speaker 1: I would say, while their relevance may be slightly down 512 00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:12,000 Speaker 1: a notch from the prior generation, it's still one of 513 00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:15,359 Speaker 1: the most relevant brands in our sport. That to me 514 00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:18,960 Speaker 1: is the Notre Dame take. I don't even think they're 515 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:22,720 Speaker 1: hard to figure out. They do not stack up roster wise, 516 00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:26,080 Speaker 1: man for man with the elites in college football, but 517 00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:29,720 Speaker 1: whenever you start placing chairs at the second table, they're 518 00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:31,959 Speaker 1: one of the first ones there, and that's where they 519 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:33,879 Speaker 1: are right now. And I don't get how in the 520 00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:38,199 Speaker 1: world this is so difficult. So I think probably the 521 00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:40,600 Speaker 1: number one bit of feedback that I expect to get 522 00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:44,280 Speaker 1: on this is, well, Josh, the media overhype them every year. Well, 523 00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:48,320 Speaker 1: then hate on the media, not them. Marcus Freeman doesn't 524 00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:51,840 Speaker 1: issue his own ratings. If he wants to, we can talk. 525 00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:55,640 Speaker 1: But I don't see Notre Dame rating themselves. Notre Dame 526 00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:59,240 Speaker 1: up there. Notre Dame didn't go to NBC and hold 527 00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:02,040 Speaker 1: them hostage, get that contract. You want to hate on them, 528 00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:04,960 Speaker 1: Hate on NBC for handing them the money, hate on 529 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:07,600 Speaker 1: the media if we over hyping them. Best I can tell, 530 00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:11,840 Speaker 1: no one's really hyping Notre Dame and ranking Notre Dame 531 00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:15,000 Speaker 1: above the elites, I don't ever see them put in 532 00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:17,919 Speaker 1: the elite category. They don't belong in the elite category. 533 00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:21,000 Speaker 1: Perhaps their ceiling is that they could one day again 534 00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:24,600 Speaker 1: become elite. And there are far fewer rungs above Notre 535 00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:27,760 Speaker 1: Dame on the college football ladder than there are below them. 536 00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:32,119 Speaker 1: But there is no understanding of degrees in conversation, and 537 00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:35,960 Speaker 1: maybe it's just the internetization of everything college football included. 538 00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:39,560 Speaker 1: Like if you say Notre Dame's pretty good, that gets lost. 539 00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:42,159 Speaker 1: You either got to say Notre Dame goat status or 540 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:46,679 Speaker 1: Notre Dame trash landfill vibes. It's not the way it 541 00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:51,680 Speaker 1: is for like ninety five percent by default, ninety five 542 00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:55,200 Speaker 1: percent falls in between the extremes, cause the extremes are 543 00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:57,640 Speaker 1: the two and a half percent either side, and yet 544 00:26:57,680 --> 00:26:59,920 Speaker 1: folks disproportionately traffic in the extremes. 545 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:00,760 Speaker 2: The wildest thing. 546 00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:06,080 Speaker 1: They're watching us in Chattanooga, Tennessee, Montgomery, Texas, and Alabama 547 00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:08,800 Speaker 1: in Fort Lauderdale, Florida. Thank you guys so much. We 548 00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:11,480 Speaker 1: have a metric ton of content still to get to. 549 00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:15,560 Speaker 1: Let me move my phone off this Kenny Dillingham quote 550 00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:17,399 Speaker 1: over here. We got to get to later. I was 551 00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:20,399 Speaker 1: walking through the office earlier today. Bradley, the associate was 552 00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:23,800 Speaker 1: building a graphic. It's a Kenny Dillingham quote where he's 553 00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:28,080 Speaker 1: roasting other coaches by the way for complaining about their workload. 554 00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:33,560 Speaker 1: And Bradley inexplicably had the Dillingham quote done but for 555 00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:37,120 Speaker 1: the picture of Kenny Dillingham supposedly next to the quote, 556 00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:39,359 Speaker 1: he had a picture of Mickey Mantle. So apparently, in 557 00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:43,159 Speaker 1: our system, Mickey Mantle is a placeholder image until we 558 00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:47,399 Speaker 1: place the image literal. Mickey Mantle played for the Yankees 559 00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:50,920 Speaker 1: seven hundred years ago, Mickey Mantle. I don't ever know 560 00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:53,960 Speaker 1: if we got it changed, but if we didn't, Kenny 561 00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:57,080 Speaker 1: Dillingham has been made aware that he doubles as Mickey 562 00:27:57,080 --> 00:27:59,639 Speaker 1: Mantle in the office right now. So we'll get to 563 00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:01,240 Speaker 1: that late because I think a lot of you are 564 00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:03,720 Speaker 1: gonna have a lot of fun with that segment, because 565 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:05,000 Speaker 1: I've had fun with it, and a lot of you 566 00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:07,800 Speaker 1: have had fun bashing me about it. That's okay, that's 567 00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:14,320 Speaker 1: what God made February for. But in the meantime, Colin, 568 00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:17,280 Speaker 1: here's an endpoint for you. I need to tell you 569 00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:19,240 Speaker 1: something about Alabama. I need to tell you why I 570 00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:21,000 Speaker 1: love this time of year. I love this time of 571 00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:23,800 Speaker 1: year because so Nick Saban retires at Alabama and then 572 00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:26,720 Speaker 1: Kaylen Debor gets the job and everyone has an immediate 573 00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:29,679 Speaker 1: opinion on it. I have friends I went and counted 574 00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:34,200 Speaker 1: one the other day specifically, who have had four different 575 00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:38,440 Speaker 1: unique takes on Kaylin de Boor at Alabama, like whether 576 00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:42,600 Speaker 1: he will succeed or not. Four dudes changed his mind 577 00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:46,719 Speaker 1: four times, and it is right now February twenty second, 578 00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:51,360 Speaker 1: and his first spring practice is still several weeks away. 579 00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:53,920 Speaker 2: That's why I love this time of year. I encourage it. 580 00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:56,440 Speaker 1: Get as many takes out there as possible so that 581 00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:58,760 Speaker 1: you can go back and cherry pick whichever one's you 582 00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:01,880 Speaker 1: got right, because inevitably, if you throw every take out there, 583 00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:03,800 Speaker 1: you got to get one right. It's not the worst 584 00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:08,479 Speaker 1: strategy in the world. And so I wanted to remind 585 00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:11,000 Speaker 1: you guys of something because there has been so much 586 00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:14,920 Speaker 1: happening in this sport that a bombshell goes off, Saban retires, 587 00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:18,840 Speaker 1: and then Kaylin de Boor, fresh off of National Championship appearance, 588 00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:21,000 Speaker 1: gets the head job at Alabama. It's almost like that 589 00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:23,440 Speaker 1: feels like old news already, and it was like a 590 00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:23,840 Speaker 1: month ago. 591 00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:25,560 Speaker 2: It's just that so much has happened. 592 00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:29,120 Speaker 1: Well, let me tell you, because I was really kind 593 00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:31,760 Speaker 1: of marrying this with several of you over the course 594 00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:34,520 Speaker 1: of any given week. Ask what I'm thinking about this 595 00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:38,520 Speaker 1: Just a reminder before we open spring ball there, whether 596 00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:41,560 Speaker 1: it's great or a disaster. I think he upgraded his 597 00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:44,800 Speaker 1: coaching staff overall. Not talking about head coach for head coach, 598 00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:50,000 Speaker 1: I'm saying staff overall. I think he upgraded that coaching staff. 599 00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:55,120 Speaker 1: One of the great unspokens behind the scenes was down 600 00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:57,440 Speaker 1: the stretch, as it turns out, down the stretch of 601 00:29:57,520 --> 00:30:01,760 Speaker 1: Nick Saban's career last few years. He had had not 602 00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:05,200 Speaker 1: a hard time, but he had had a harder time 603 00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:09,720 Speaker 1: than he had years prior filling his staff with. 604 00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:11,560 Speaker 2: The names he wanted to fill him with. 605 00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:15,120 Speaker 1: And that was just because you cannot ignore age, and 606 00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:19,160 Speaker 1: you cannot ignore that Guys want to sign on to 607 00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:21,520 Speaker 1: a program where they know they'll be longevity. It's the 608 00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:24,240 Speaker 1: same reason why if you're on the hot seat, it's 609 00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:26,600 Speaker 1: really hard to go higher because guys look and say, 610 00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:29,120 Speaker 1: what am I going to move there? For nine months 611 00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:31,200 Speaker 1: and then I'm out the door with you. Well, it's 612 00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:33,600 Speaker 1: the same way if you're going to coach for a guy. 613 00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:36,640 Speaker 1: I mean, Saban was conducting coaching interviews five minutes before 614 00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:39,360 Speaker 1: he retired, so a lot of that was valid. So anyway, 615 00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:43,240 Speaker 1: I think Daboor upgraded his staff. Does he have sec chops? 616 00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:46,040 Speaker 1: Does the staff have SEC chops? Now that right, there 617 00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:50,080 Speaker 1: is a good question by SEC chops. Do you mean 618 00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:52,600 Speaker 1: are they familiar with the territory? A lot of them aren't. 619 00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:55,120 Speaker 1: A lot of them never lived in or coached in 620 00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:58,080 Speaker 1: the South. Not only one way to baptize yourself into that, 621 00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:01,720 Speaker 1: but the other part is a lot of you have noticed, 622 00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:04,600 Speaker 1: like he's taken guys from Washington, he's taking guys from Baylor, 623 00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:08,160 Speaker 1: And there's not a lot of that incestuous hiring in 624 00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:10,240 Speaker 1: the best of ways that you normally see in the South. 625 00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:11,720 Speaker 1: A lot of times when a guy gets a job 626 00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:14,400 Speaker 1: in the SEC, he just goes and takes some deuce 627 00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:18,320 Speaker 1: from Florida and LSU and now Texas and Oklahoma, And 628 00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:21,280 Speaker 1: sometimes it works out. Other times it just means that 629 00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:24,200 Speaker 1: you got a stale conference and it's right for a 630 00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:27,280 Speaker 1: guy from outside the block to move in. 631 00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:31,120 Speaker 2: Most notably guys like urban Meyer did this in the past. 632 00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:32,000 Speaker 2: Saban even did it. 633 00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:35,000 Speaker 1: Saban didn't get the staffers he wanted it first either, 634 00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:39,160 Speaker 1: but it's been done before. But at the same time, 635 00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:41,760 Speaker 1: it's an adjustment period. It's an adjustment period for everyone. 636 00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:45,520 Speaker 1: I think short term it was probably like drinking water 637 00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:49,360 Speaker 1: from a fire hose for them. I don't look two 638 00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:51,880 Speaker 1: things okay. So first I think they'll be fine on 639 00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:56,160 Speaker 1: that front. But secondly, there is a large contingent of 640 00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:58,240 Speaker 1: people I think that are waiting for them to lose 641 00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:01,040 Speaker 1: their first game this year, whether it's or whether it's 642 00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:03,560 Speaker 1: earlier than that. Maybe they go lose it Wisconsin earlier 643 00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:06,240 Speaker 1: in the season, and that will be like a referendum 644 00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:09,600 Speaker 1: on Kaylen Debor, and it'll be really really whacked out 645 00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:12,680 Speaker 1: and there won't be much logic behind it. But I 646 00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:16,440 Speaker 1: am personally deciding to think well beyond just twenty twenty 647 00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:19,480 Speaker 1: four with this hire. And it's not that he has 648 00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:22,120 Speaker 1: to rebuild the program or anything. It's a turnkey winner 649 00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:25,640 Speaker 1: if you got the right structure in place. But to 650 00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:28,760 Speaker 1: pretend like well, the best of all time stepped away, 651 00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:30,600 Speaker 1: you ought to just step right in here and I'll 652 00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:32,520 Speaker 1: not even be able to tell a difference from fifty 653 00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:35,800 Speaker 1: thousand feet it's crazy crazy. So I think they'll be 654 00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:38,920 Speaker 1: okay long term. But I was okay riding a bike 655 00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:41,719 Speaker 1: long term. The first time that meh maw took her 656 00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:44,280 Speaker 1: hand off my lower back and pushed me down the hill. 657 00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:45,320 Speaker 2: It was wobbly. 658 00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:48,800 Speaker 1: I didn't fall, I don't think, but it was wobbly. 659 00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:51,200 Speaker 1: So if it's wabbly out of the gate, it's wabbly 660 00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:52,640 Speaker 1: out of the gate. Long term, I'm telling you I 661 00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:55,560 Speaker 1: have very little doubt they'll be fine. I think that 662 00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:59,840 Speaker 1: they absorbed the unavoidable really well too. So the unavoidable 663 00:32:59,920 --> 00:33:03,880 Speaker 1: is you lose Nick Saban, you know, good and well. 664 00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:05,600 Speaker 1: A lot of those players were there to play for him, 665 00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:08,360 Speaker 1: the Caleb downs Is of the world, for example, So 666 00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:11,120 Speaker 1: there was a lot about losing guys to the portal. 667 00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:12,840 Speaker 1: That was gonna be unavoidable. And it didn't matter who 668 00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:16,760 Speaker 1: took the job, it was going to be unavoidable. They 669 00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:19,959 Speaker 1: controlled what they could control. I frankly, I don't even 670 00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:23,200 Speaker 1: think it was the mass exodus of game changers that 671 00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:25,280 Speaker 1: it was made out to be. I mean, you lose 672 00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:27,280 Speaker 1: Caleb Downs, now, that may be the best football player 673 00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:30,840 Speaker 1: on your team, So there's no sugarcoating that. But some 674 00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:33,560 Speaker 1: of the other big time names they kept there. And 675 00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:36,680 Speaker 1: I also think that post spring portal window will be 676 00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:40,360 Speaker 1: fascinating with Alabama. They also brought Austin mack in at quarterback, 677 00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:43,080 Speaker 1: who I know. I've seen a lot of folks who 678 00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:46,960 Speaker 1: cover Alabama just assuming Austin mack is a twenty twenty 679 00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:50,040 Speaker 1: five and beyond name and it's certain to be Milro's 680 00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:52,120 Speaker 1: team this year. And you guys may be right. I 681 00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:55,160 Speaker 1: just want to watch spring ball before I, you know, 682 00:33:55,240 --> 00:34:00,600 Speaker 1: write that in pen myself. Nick Saban came into the 683 00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:03,560 Speaker 1: SEC and redefined what it meant to win in the SEC, 684 00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:04,920 Speaker 1: and that's a generation to go. 685 00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:08,000 Speaker 2: So now you're gonna hear a lot. 686 00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:12,160 Speaker 1: Of folks springball media days getting into this upcoming season 687 00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:15,200 Speaker 1: where Obama won't be favored to win the SEC and 688 00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:17,719 Speaker 1: may not even be the second favorite to win the 689 00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:19,120 Speaker 1: SEC for the first time in a while, and they're 690 00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:21,680 Speaker 1: gonna say Kaylen de Boor does not know the SEC, 691 00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:22,919 Speaker 1: which is right. 692 00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:25,759 Speaker 2: I don't want you. 693 00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:29,120 Speaker 1: To forget that the SEC doesn't know kaylend Bor either. 694 00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:32,400 Speaker 1: And while it is really fun growing up where I 695 00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:35,279 Speaker 1: grew up, to pound your chest and talk about how 696 00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:37,240 Speaker 1: a newcomer is about to get a dose of reality, 697 00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:40,799 Speaker 1: and it does happen a fair amount. Quite notably, it's 698 00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:45,560 Speaker 1: happened recently, even in the state of Alabama. Sometimes it's 699 00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:48,520 Speaker 1: the end verse. Sometimes a new guy comes in and 700 00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:51,200 Speaker 1: you find out, well, he kind of knows what he's doing. 701 00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:54,279 Speaker 2: That stuff he was doing at Washington. Turns out it 702 00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:55,120 Speaker 2: does work here. 703 00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:58,160 Speaker 1: Turns out there's not a total different way to skin 704 00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:00,280 Speaker 1: the cat, or it turns out there's several different ways 705 00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:04,279 Speaker 1: to do it. And also the million dollar question around 706 00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:06,359 Speaker 1: Debor and his staff right now is are they going 707 00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:10,280 Speaker 1: to be able to acquire talent? And I'm a believer, 708 00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:12,080 Speaker 1: and I'll give you this equation. We'll move on. I'm 709 00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:14,440 Speaker 1: a believer that it takes two things to recruit in 710 00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:17,319 Speaker 1: the South. It takes a relentless pursuit. I mean, you've 711 00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:18,959 Speaker 1: got to be able to work twenty four about twenty 712 00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:21,399 Speaker 1: five hours a day. You know, you can't talk about man, 713 00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:24,319 Speaker 1: I work forty five hours this week. I'm drained. Those 714 00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:26,680 Speaker 1: folks burn out pretty quick. But if you want to 715 00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:29,960 Speaker 1: recruit the sec successfully, you got to be relentless, and 716 00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:32,560 Speaker 1: I think he absolutely is. And number two, you got 717 00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:36,560 Speaker 1: to know people. You've got to know people. The emphasis 718 00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:39,759 Speaker 1: is on people, not no no people. You got to 719 00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:42,919 Speaker 1: have ends here and ends there. You'll develop those relationships 720 00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:45,520 Speaker 1: if you're good with folks and you're relentless. How do 721 00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:47,960 Speaker 1: you think the ones who have the relationships, how do 722 00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:50,160 Speaker 1: you think the ones who do know the people found 723 00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:52,640 Speaker 1: ways to know the people. So that's again, that's a process. 724 00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:56,480 Speaker 1: I think they'll be okay there. But my question as 725 00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:59,960 Speaker 1: we move on to you is what is success for them? 726 00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:03,920 Speaker 1: In other words, what is the thing Alabama could accomplish 727 00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:07,479 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty four where you look and you say, hey, 728 00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:09,439 Speaker 1: I guess Dbor was the right guy for the job. 729 00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:11,200 Speaker 1: Is it an amount of wins? Is it a number 730 00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:13,960 Speaker 1: of wins? Is it a level of play on the field. 731 00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:16,799 Speaker 1: Do you care more about the recruiting class coming up? 732 00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:20,200 Speaker 1: Just out of curiosity? No right or wrong answers, just 733 00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:21,120 Speaker 1: out of curiosity. 734 00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:23,480 Speaker 2: Let's move on. I have. 735 00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:27,560 Speaker 1: I got some mystery teams talk about later. This coaching 736 00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:29,520 Speaker 1: debate is fun. I'm gonna get to that in just 737 00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:33,279 Speaker 1: a second. And yes, yes, children, if you are tuned in, 738 00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:35,600 Speaker 1: there will be a point towards the end of this 739 00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:39,759 Speaker 1: show where I have a thought or two on the 740 00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:43,439 Speaker 1: news about the college football video game today. Yes, yes, 741 00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:44,640 Speaker 1: I will do that. It's going to be at the 742 00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:48,200 Speaker 1: end of the show, but I will do that. So 743 00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:51,960 Speaker 1: college football is twenty twenty four schedule. It's out that 744 00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:54,920 Speaker 1: non conference slate. I had some of you ask me 745 00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:57,879 Speaker 1: about it. Bud In particular not Elliot Bud Royster said, 746 00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:01,280 Speaker 1: what's the best out of conference football game this season? Well, 747 00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:04,600 Speaker 1: I cannot narrow it down to one, So I've got 748 00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:06,640 Speaker 1: a list here. You guys can share the ones because 749 00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:08,400 Speaker 1: I couldn't fit them all on here. You guys can 750 00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:11,359 Speaker 1: share the ones you're excited about. Do you know in 751 00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:14,600 Speaker 1: week one, I've got three games on this list from 752 00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:18,279 Speaker 1: week one? You know Miami plays Florida at Florida in 753 00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:21,520 Speaker 1: Week one. You don't want to talk about pressure on 754 00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:24,600 Speaker 1: a football game again. One of the many reasons I 755 00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:27,440 Speaker 1: love college football is because you could have a game 756 00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:32,080 Speaker 1: in week one where both coaches are being doubted. I mean, 757 00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:34,000 Speaker 1: one coach is just straight up on the hot seat. 758 00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:36,320 Speaker 1: They're over under win total at Florida's five and a half. 759 00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:39,160 Speaker 1: They know they've got a murderer's row of a schedule 760 00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:42,640 Speaker 1: this year. And then conversely, you got Mario down at 761 00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:46,080 Speaker 1: Miami and the entire country's screaming, Yeah, he can recruit, 762 00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:46,920 Speaker 1: but can he coach? 763 00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:51,080 Speaker 2: Can he win? On Saturday? Someone's got to lose this game. Okay. 764 00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:54,600 Speaker 1: Can you imagine leaving this thing oho to one how 765 00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:57,920 Speaker 1: toxic it will already be by the second week in 766 00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:01,279 Speaker 1: September and convert Victually, you know, the winner's got a 767 00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:04,000 Speaker 1: leg up, at least theoretically he's got a leg up 768 00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:07,279 Speaker 1: perception wise. It's not a conference game. But I just 769 00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:09,800 Speaker 1: think about that. I think about the team that starts 770 00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:10,359 Speaker 1: zero to one. 771 00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:10,640 Speaker 2: There. 772 00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:14,480 Speaker 1: That's the kind of consequence that exists in this sport, 773 00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:17,920 Speaker 1: even early in the season. Texas is at Michigan the 774 00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:23,280 Speaker 1: very next week, Week two sec versus Big Ten. Texas 775 00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:25,440 Speaker 1: has got the third best odds to win the title 776 00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:28,440 Speaker 1: this year. Michigan's got the seventh best odds. Texas is 777 00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:32,120 Speaker 1: an early two and a half point favorite in this 778 00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:36,000 Speaker 1: game at Michigan. According to our buddies at FanDuel. What 779 00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:39,319 Speaker 1: a moment for Sharon Moore, Like, Yeah, it's a big 780 00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:42,839 Speaker 1: moment when you find out your head coach is suspended 781 00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:45,320 Speaker 1: and you're the interim head coach and you got to 782 00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:47,560 Speaker 1: face Penn State on the road. But it was almost 783 00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:50,200 Speaker 1: like it happened so fast you don't have time to 784 00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:51,200 Speaker 1: be worried or nervous. 785 00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:53,880 Speaker 2: Well, now you're the head coach permanently. Now you got. 786 00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:55,959 Speaker 1: Months and months and months to build up, and it's 787 00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:58,600 Speaker 1: your team, it's your program. You're not just holding the 788 00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:01,799 Speaker 1: wheel for someone else. And Texas comes to town in 789 00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:04,839 Speaker 1: week two, and then all of a sudden, you got 790 00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:08,359 Speaker 1: Texas in the same position they were last year. Last year, 791 00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:11,400 Speaker 1: they go to Alabama, they win in Week two, and 792 00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:13,200 Speaker 1: they're off to the races. Well, they could go to 793 00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:16,239 Speaker 1: Michigan win and sort of feel the same way, be 794 00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:19,680 Speaker 1: off to the race as this upcoming year. Oh what 795 00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:23,080 Speaker 1: a helmet game, by the way, the Longhorn and the 796 00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:26,600 Speaker 1: Maze and Blute. What a helmet game. That's one where 797 00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:28,799 Speaker 1: you don't need to know any of the names of 798 00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:29,880 Speaker 1: any of the players. 799 00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:32,439 Speaker 2: Just put the game on mute for all I care 800 00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:34,280 Speaker 2: and just watch the pretty image. 801 00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:36,560 Speaker 1: Just go back and forth. How about Georgia at Clemson. 802 00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:39,480 Speaker 1: That's not at Clemson. Georgia versus Clemson is in Atlanta 803 00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:43,239 Speaker 1: in week one. Georgia's actually before I give you the 804 00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:45,520 Speaker 1: points spread. For those of you who haven't checked fan duel, 805 00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:48,400 Speaker 1: anyone have a guess. Well, now that you see it 806 00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:50,640 Speaker 1: on the screen, you know, Georgia's minus twelve and a 807 00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:55,440 Speaker 1: half against Clemson. Garrett Riley the OC at Clemson K 808 00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:59,279 Speaker 1: Clubnit quarterback there at Clemson there year two together, now 809 00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:04,800 Speaker 1: I have spoken about Clemson at length. George is a mainstay. 810 00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:07,160 Speaker 1: They're in this position every year. It's a virtual home 811 00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:09,319 Speaker 1: game in their backyard, although Clemson is not much further 812 00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:14,120 Speaker 1: up the road. But here's a question. There are two 813 00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:16,880 Speaker 1: teams right now where if I talk about them not 814 00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:22,919 Speaker 1: being in Tier One, their fans very vehemently disagree. One 815 00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:26,560 Speaker 1: is Clemson, the other is USC. So I'm not talking 816 00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:30,239 Speaker 1: about USC right now with Clemson. If I'm wrong about that, 817 00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:33,000 Speaker 1: and Clemson is a Tier one program still and they're 818 00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:35,000 Speaker 1: a Tier one team, and I do not believe they 819 00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:39,719 Speaker 1: are right now, I'll know, will know because whether they 820 00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:43,839 Speaker 1: win or lose, this won't be lopsided. Now, if I'm right, 821 00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:46,799 Speaker 1: there is the opportunity for Georgia to pull away and 822 00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:50,360 Speaker 1: win by twenty twenty five points. But if I'm wrong, 823 00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:54,000 Speaker 1: or or if I have been right, but Clemson is 824 00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:57,399 Speaker 1: changing the narrative and they've they've shored up a lot 825 00:40:57,440 --> 00:41:00,200 Speaker 1: of their inefficiencies, well, then all of a sudden, this 826 00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:03,440 Speaker 1: is a dogfight of a game and everyone's watching it saying, wow, 827 00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:06,080 Speaker 1: Clemson's tied with Georgia, will five minutes to go. Remember 828 00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:09,759 Speaker 1: they lost to Duke last year they ugly lost to Duke. 829 00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:12,640 Speaker 1: Good for Dabo, So that's why we played the games, obviously. 830 00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:15,640 Speaker 1: But this is a very, very big, big important game 831 00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:19,080 Speaker 1: for the program. Like this is not important for Georgia's program, 832 00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:23,680 Speaker 1: it is very important for Clemsons program. Next up, same week, 833 00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:29,440 Speaker 1: USC plays LSU in Las Vegas. The building they just 834 00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:32,759 Speaker 1: played the Super Bowl. Limb the building the last PAC 835 00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:35,880 Speaker 1: twelve championship game was played in. Yeah, that's where LSU 836 00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:39,000 Speaker 1: is a six point favorite at FanDuel right now against USC. 837 00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:43,080 Speaker 2: Just show me the defenses. Just show me. 838 00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:46,319 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say that that's a surefire immunity. Show 839 00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:50,839 Speaker 1: me the defenses. D'Anton Limb brand new defensive coordinator for USC, 840 00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:53,520 Speaker 1: one of the most important names in college football this year. 841 00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:56,839 Speaker 1: Blake Baker, new DC at LSU, one of the most 842 00:41:56,840 --> 00:41:59,480 Speaker 1: important names in college football this year. These were pinball 843 00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:03,120 Speaker 1: offenses at various times. Last year, LSU's quarterback won the 844 00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:06,840 Speaker 1: Heisman Trophy over under his sixty six I believe in 845 00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:10,520 Speaker 1: this game right now, show me the defenses, because the 846 00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:14,759 Speaker 1: ultimate hopes on both of these teams rests solely on 847 00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:18,520 Speaker 1: how much better those DC hires and those defensive staffs 848 00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:23,160 Speaker 1: can make those defenses those units in year one, because 849 00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:26,319 Speaker 1: either one of them last year, especially LSU, you give 850 00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:28,440 Speaker 1: them top thirty defense, they could have won the national 851 00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:31,319 Speaker 1: championship for all I know, but they didn't have one, 852 00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:35,160 Speaker 1: and so they got beat by the likes of Alabama 853 00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:39,160 Speaker 1: and FSU just running the score up on them. Lastly, 854 00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:43,200 Speaker 1: go all the way to Week ten, South Bend, Indiana. 855 00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:47,120 Speaker 1: Week ten, Florida State comes to town. Notre Dame's off 856 00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:50,719 Speaker 1: of bye. They welcome in Florida State. And here's what's 857 00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:54,319 Speaker 1: interesting from an FSU scheduling perspective or a Notre Dame 858 00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:59,360 Speaker 1: scheduling perspective. Notre Dame faces one opponent this year with 859 00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:03,120 Speaker 1: prec national title odds better than them, and it's Florida State. 860 00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:06,279 Speaker 1: So I'm not going as far as to tell you 861 00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:08,600 Speaker 1: Notre Dame will be favored in every game this year. 862 00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:12,080 Speaker 1: Maybe they will be, but this is the one team 863 00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:14,080 Speaker 1: that Vegas thinks more highly of than Notre Dame in 864 00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:17,879 Speaker 1: the preseason who they faced this year. Riley Leonard, who 865 00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:20,919 Speaker 1: is now the quarterback at Notre Dame. Remember he played 866 00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:23,680 Speaker 1: at Duke last year and when they played against Florida State, 867 00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:27,360 Speaker 1: he was banged up really bad, had under seventy yards passing, 868 00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:30,600 Speaker 1: and he gets another shot at them. But more importantly, 869 00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:32,879 Speaker 1: like I said, this is not week one, two or three. 870 00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:34,879 Speaker 1: And if you look at their schedule at Notre Dame 871 00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:36,920 Speaker 1: right now, they go to A and M in week one, 872 00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:38,960 Speaker 1: which also could have been on this list. I don't 873 00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:41,279 Speaker 1: want to just gloss over that Notre Dame opens in 874 00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:45,359 Speaker 1: College Station this year, Mike Elko's first game as head 875 00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:50,680 Speaker 1: coach there. So you got a bunch of like Northern Illinois, Perdue, Miami, Ohio, 876 00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:51,440 Speaker 1: Louisville stand for. 877 00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:52,400 Speaker 2: Georgia Tech, Navy. 878 00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:54,759 Speaker 1: They'll go off the national radar for a little while 879 00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:56,680 Speaker 1: and then everyone will be building up to that Florida 880 00:43:56,680 --> 00:44:00,000 Speaker 1: State game, and that'll be really good because obviously it's 881 00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:02,439 Speaker 1: all out of conference with Notre Dame. But for Florida State, 882 00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:05,520 Speaker 1: man they go up there in November. You have been 883 00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:08,400 Speaker 1: in Northern Indiana in November. It doesn't feel like Tallahassee. 884 00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:09,319 Speaker 2: I do know that. 885 00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:11,319 Speaker 1: So those are some games I'm looking forward to in 886 00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:15,239 Speaker 1: the out of conference we move on. I'm trying to 887 00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:20,160 Speaker 1: keep a brisk pace here tonight. Oh oh, I didn't 888 00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:20,879 Speaker 1: want to thank you. 889 00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:24,600 Speaker 2: So we we got a lot of got a lot of. 890 00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:26,279 Speaker 1: Thank yous the other day, or got a lot of 891 00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:29,279 Speaker 1: congratulations or pats on the back whatever. We got about 892 00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:31,759 Speaker 1: the Late Kick Extra podcast. So that drops in your 893 00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:35,120 Speaker 1: feed every Tuesday or Wednesday, depending on how quickly Bradley edits. 894 00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:36,600 Speaker 2: It, and he was quick this week. 895 00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:42,440 Speaker 1: But sometimes I'll have Colin recorded, even though it's a 896 00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:45,920 Speaker 1: podcast only, I'll have Colin record video and we'll upload 897 00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:49,280 Speaker 1: like some clips on the YouTube channel. Well, we work 898 00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:51,920 Speaker 1: in We work on like the fourteenth floor of this 899 00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:55,120 Speaker 1: massive building downtown in Nashville, and there are a lot 900 00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:58,640 Speaker 1: of studios around here that just go unused. So Jesse 901 00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:01,200 Speaker 1: and Colin and I I've had our eye on this 902 00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:05,239 Speaker 1: radio studio that CMT Radio used for a long time. 903 00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:08,600 Speaker 1: The thing looks really, really awesome. It just sits there. 904 00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:10,600 Speaker 1: So we said, you know what we ought to just 905 00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:13,440 Speaker 1: were just laughing. We ought to just record the extra 906 00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:15,440 Speaker 1: podcast in there. And then all of a sudden one 907 00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:18,160 Speaker 1: of us got a straight face and said, why don't 908 00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:20,000 Speaker 1: we record the extra pot in there? So we did, 909 00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:22,360 Speaker 1: and we took some of the trinkets, you know, Floyd 910 00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:25,719 Speaker 1: of Rosedale, for example, the Late Kick helmets and some 911 00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:27,920 Speaker 1: of the chow I and we put them behind the 912 00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:29,800 Speaker 1: set and we went in there and recorded it the 913 00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:33,480 Speaker 1: other day. Audio was great, first off. Secondly, had a 914 00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:35,960 Speaker 1: really homely vibe to it, didn't it, Colin? And so 915 00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:39,719 Speaker 1: we got asked, Hey, do you guys have a new set. No, 916 00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:42,120 Speaker 1: it's like we're still doing the show here. It's just 917 00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:45,319 Speaker 1: we wanted to try that out and probably we'll do 918 00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:48,719 Speaker 1: it again at some point. So we got the compliments 919 00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:54,719 Speaker 1: and we appreciate that. Okay, I don't know how else 920 00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:57,480 Speaker 1: to put this. Coaches make a lot of money and 921 00:45:57,520 --> 00:46:00,759 Speaker 1: their jobs are hard. With that in mind, Colin, could 922 00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:04,120 Speaker 1: you show me the Adam Schefter tweet from yesterday? Because 923 00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:06,040 Speaker 1: this had a lot of people up in arms. So 924 00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:09,919 Speaker 1: Adam Schefter followed. He covers the NFL for ESPN. He said, 925 00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:13,680 Speaker 1: a trend that has emerged this winter is many college 926 00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:16,920 Speaker 1: coaches are tired of the transfer portal, the NIL money, 927 00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:19,759 Speaker 1: and the new NCAA world and prefer to work in 928 00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:23,560 Speaker 1: the NFL. Many college coaches already have left, many more 929 00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:27,640 Speaker 1: want to. Now, if you know college football, that doesn't 930 00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:30,440 Speaker 1: come as a huge shock to you. And I've articulated 931 00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:32,280 Speaker 1: that to you many times. That a lot of coaches 932 00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:34,360 Speaker 1: have shared that with me as well, and I've shared 933 00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:37,680 Speaker 1: it on the show. So this conversation has totally gone 934 00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:41,880 Speaker 1: off the rails because the nature of this world is 935 00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:44,359 Speaker 1: now a lot of people talk college football year round. 936 00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:46,040 Speaker 1: That's a good thing. We didn't used to have a 937 00:46:46,040 --> 00:46:48,840 Speaker 1: lot of that. That's a good thing. The downside to 938 00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:52,800 Speaker 1: that is if they are not games happening, there tends 939 00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:55,120 Speaker 1: to be this massive echo chamber where at any given 940 00:46:55,160 --> 00:46:59,239 Speaker 1: point there are two or three relevant topics and everyone's 941 00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:03,600 Speaker 1: talking about the same topic. So we were talking about 942 00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:05,640 Speaker 1: this for a while on this show, and I'll reiterate 943 00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:08,319 Speaker 1: my thoughts in a second. But when I've spoken out 944 00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:11,759 Speaker 1: about this, I've said, Hey, the schedule such right now 945 00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:15,799 Speaker 1: and coaches are being stretched, really them, and they don't 946 00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:18,200 Speaker 1: get hardly any time to actually focus on ball and 947 00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:22,040 Speaker 1: to coach and sharpen and hone their craft, and burnout 948 00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:24,560 Speaker 1: is real. Those are the things I've said. I don't 949 00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:29,520 Speaker 1: think it's great for the sport. That's what I've said. Okay, period, 950 00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:35,200 Speaker 1: Then there is this other contrarian group of people who 951 00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:38,400 Speaker 1: doesn't matter what they hear said. If they hear a 952 00:47:38,520 --> 00:47:41,640 Speaker 1: chorus sung in unison. They are going to sing another 953 00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:44,279 Speaker 1: tune just for the sake of singing another tune, which 954 00:47:44,719 --> 00:47:46,359 Speaker 1: is not the worst thing in the world, because at 955 00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:51,399 Speaker 1: least it diversifies the library of thoughts out there. Well, 956 00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:56,600 Speaker 1: what they've done, the contrarian class over here, is they've 957 00:47:56,719 --> 00:47:59,480 Speaker 1: listened to people say things like I was saying there, 958 00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:02,600 Speaker 1: which is schedule is not good right now. I think 959 00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:05,480 Speaker 1: coaching burnout is real. I do think that guys at 960 00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:07,880 Speaker 1: our level are trying to get out to a higher 961 00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:10,520 Speaker 1: percentage degree than they have in the past. I don't 962 00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:12,520 Speaker 1: think there's enough time to be focused on ball right 963 00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:15,120 Speaker 1: now because of all the other mess that's around the 964 00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:15,840 Speaker 1: world of coaching. 965 00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:16,799 Speaker 2: And that's what I've said. 966 00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:21,040 Speaker 1: Then the contrarian class says, look at everyone freaking out 967 00:48:21,080 --> 00:48:23,440 Speaker 1: about this. I'm not freaking out about it. It's not 968 00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:26,200 Speaker 1: worth freaking out about. Oh, look at everyone presenting this 969 00:48:26,239 --> 00:48:28,000 Speaker 1: as a crisis. It's not a crisis. 970 00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:31,680 Speaker 2: Never use the word ever to discuss this. It's not 971 00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:32,520 Speaker 2: a crisis. Here. 972 00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:35,560 Speaker 1: On a scale of one to ten problems facing this sport, 973 00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:38,640 Speaker 1: it's probably about a four, if I'm being real with you, 974 00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:41,040 Speaker 1: probably about a four. Oh, look at him fear mongering. 975 00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:44,120 Speaker 1: I'm a guy driving to work in Des Moines, Iowa. 976 00:48:44,239 --> 00:48:47,040 Speaker 1: This does not impact his life. Maybe he's interested in it, 977 00:48:47,239 --> 00:48:49,640 Speaker 1: maybe he's not, but he's just a college football fan. 978 00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:51,840 Speaker 1: And I just happen to be talking about it because 979 00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:54,120 Speaker 1: our traffic shows enough of you care about this that 980 00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:55,560 Speaker 1: I'll touch on it every now and then. 981 00:48:55,640 --> 00:48:59,480 Speaker 2: There's no freak out. There's no freak out, there's no crisis. 982 00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:02,680 Speaker 1: It's just something that I think matters because I would 983 00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:08,120 Speaker 1: prefer not to see good people leave this game because 984 00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:09,800 Speaker 1: they don't recognize the game anymore. 985 00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:10,399 Speaker 2: That's it. 986 00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:15,440 Speaker 1: So there's been a loud enough chorus of people complaining 987 00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:19,520 Speaker 1: and some coaches complaining that some other coaches have started 988 00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:21,200 Speaker 1: to chime in on the other side. So it's no 989 00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:23,839 Speaker 1: different than in our world. In our world, you got 990 00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:26,200 Speaker 1: folks like me who say one thing. Then you got 991 00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:28,359 Speaker 1: other folks who come out and mock it, and they 992 00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:32,040 Speaker 1: say the other thing, oftentimes badly miscontextualizing what you said. 993 00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:35,400 Speaker 1: To begin with, Kenny Dillingham at Arizona State, friend of 994 00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:38,040 Speaker 1: the program, new head coach out there at Arizona State, Well, 995 00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:43,600 Speaker 1: he's been there a year. He was talking yesterday and said, quote, 996 00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:46,360 Speaker 1: I think you have to hire people that love coaching. 997 00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:48,200 Speaker 1: I joke around, but do you know how many people 998 00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:48,879 Speaker 1: want my job? 999 00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:49,279 Speaker 2: Like? 1000 00:49:49,320 --> 00:49:51,480 Speaker 1: Do you know how many people want my assistant jobs 1001 00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:54,400 Speaker 1: and my analyst jobs, and the quarterback and GA jobs. 1002 00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:56,800 Speaker 2: So don't complain about what we do. You're blessed. 1003 00:49:57,200 --> 00:49:59,360 Speaker 1: There's a lot of negative to it, yes, but do 1004 00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:01,120 Speaker 1: you know how many people want to be a college 1005 00:50:01,160 --> 00:50:03,879 Speaker 1: football coach? I literally spent nine years of my life 1006 00:50:03,880 --> 00:50:06,719 Speaker 1: doing anything to become a coffee boy. So don't give 1007 00:50:06,760 --> 00:50:08,719 Speaker 1: me the oh, it's hard to be a coach right now? Yeah, 1008 00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:11,440 Speaker 1: it's hard. Quit then, Like, that's. 1009 00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:13,640 Speaker 2: How I look at it. I got no problem with that. 1010 00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:17,280 Speaker 1: The reason I mentioned the Kenny Dillingham quote is because 1011 00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:19,880 Speaker 1: I looked in my inbox and a lot of you 1012 00:50:19,920 --> 00:50:22,040 Speaker 1: sent me that quote and said, wow, he disagrees with you. 1013 00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:25,160 Speaker 1: Kenny dillinghams not to disagreeing with me, because he didn't 1014 00:50:25,160 --> 00:50:29,000 Speaker 1: refute anything I've said. You are extremely privileged and blessed 1015 00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:31,399 Speaker 1: to be a college football coach. You're making a ton 1016 00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:37,160 Speaker 1: of money, and people who work extremely hard jobs in 1017 00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:39,640 Speaker 1: their own right making fractions of what you make tune 1018 00:50:39,640 --> 00:50:42,480 Speaker 1: in to watch you on saturdays. You live a dream 1019 00:50:42,560 --> 00:50:45,800 Speaker 1: life by some of their metrics. So yes, you're blessed 1020 00:50:46,080 --> 00:50:48,160 Speaker 1: you get to coach a game for a living, Absolutely 1021 00:50:48,200 --> 00:50:48,400 Speaker 1: you do. 1022 00:50:48,920 --> 00:50:50,600 Speaker 2: And if it does get too. 1023 00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:54,879 Speaker 1: Hard, quit is the best advice that you can give someone. 1024 00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:57,759 Speaker 1: I got no problem with that attitude, and I think 1025 00:50:57,760 --> 00:51:00,799 Speaker 1: it's a reactionary attitude instead of one Dillingham just wants 1026 00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:02,839 Speaker 1: to go around popping off at the mouth about. But 1027 00:51:02,920 --> 00:51:05,759 Speaker 1: I will say this, as much as Kenny Dilleyham made 1028 00:51:05,800 --> 00:51:09,280 Speaker 1: some good points there, I'll stand by everything I've said 1029 00:51:09,800 --> 00:51:13,320 Speaker 1: in that you can have that opinion but also be 1030 00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:16,480 Speaker 1: talking about something that is a problem. May not be 1031 00:51:16,520 --> 00:51:20,839 Speaker 1: a massive problem, but it is a problem. Circumstances are 1032 00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:25,160 Speaker 1: either good, bad, or indifferent. There are three options here. 1033 00:51:25,560 --> 00:51:27,759 Speaker 1: It's either a tent on the negative all the way 1034 00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:30,000 Speaker 1: to a zero to a tent on the positive, and 1035 00:51:30,080 --> 00:51:33,840 Speaker 1: somewhere on that scale is every circumstance. And right now 1036 00:51:34,200 --> 00:51:37,880 Speaker 1: I would say that the circumstance of the December schedule 1037 00:51:37,880 --> 00:51:40,359 Speaker 1: and calendar, which they're trying to address even today as 1038 00:51:40,360 --> 00:51:43,840 Speaker 1: we speak, and coaching burnout. I think it's an issue 1039 00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:47,880 Speaker 1: to a varying degree that's plaguing college football right now. 1040 00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:50,239 Speaker 1: And there is no reason for it to be. So 1041 00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:53,640 Speaker 1: a problem is a problem, and even if one person's 1042 00:51:53,680 --> 00:51:56,920 Speaker 1: pointing it out or ten thousand people are pointing it out, 1043 00:51:57,040 --> 00:51:59,160 Speaker 1: it doesn't change the fact that it's a problem. If 1044 00:51:59,200 --> 00:52:01,680 Speaker 1: it is, if it's your opinion, it's not a problem. 1045 00:52:02,120 --> 00:52:04,000 Speaker 1: Or if it's your opinion that, hey, all of them 1046 00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:06,600 Speaker 1: can quit for all you care. You do real work, 1047 00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:10,040 Speaker 1: and there'll be football coaches until the end of time. 1048 00:52:10,840 --> 00:52:13,120 Speaker 1: I've never disagreed with that either. I'll say this, though, 1049 00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:18,400 Speaker 1: you'd never have a problem filling coaching jobs. My question 1050 00:52:18,440 --> 00:52:21,680 Speaker 1: has always been are you filling those jobs with qualified 1051 00:52:21,760 --> 00:52:26,640 Speaker 1: candidates like you can? You can wipe out any highly 1052 00:52:26,680 --> 00:52:29,480 Speaker 1: competitive industry of the top names. 1053 00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:32,520 Speaker 2: And sure you'll backfill them, no problem. You can do 1054 00:52:32,560 --> 00:52:33,279 Speaker 2: it just like that. 1055 00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:37,719 Speaker 1: Is it quality across the board like you have? I mean, 1056 00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:40,120 Speaker 1: if I were to wipe out every Major League Baseball 1057 00:52:40,120 --> 00:52:42,680 Speaker 1: player right now, call it a strike. For example, you 1058 00:52:42,680 --> 00:52:46,240 Speaker 1: can get replacement players. They tried it before it sucked. 1059 00:52:46,440 --> 00:52:48,960 Speaker 1: You know why, the replacement players weren't as good as 1060 00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:51,759 Speaker 1: the real deal. It's only half things called triple double 1061 00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:53,760 Speaker 1: and single A in Major League Baseball. 1062 00:52:54,080 --> 00:52:55,839 Speaker 2: So I've never doubted that. 1063 00:52:56,680 --> 00:53:00,319 Speaker 1: I just is it the most sage approach to look 1064 00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:04,040 Speaker 1: at a problem and instead of trying to address the problem, 1065 00:53:04,560 --> 00:53:06,400 Speaker 1: just say, oh, screwed it. If they don't like it, 1066 00:53:06,440 --> 00:53:08,440 Speaker 1: they can leave and we'll get folks to take their place. 1067 00:53:08,560 --> 00:53:11,879 Speaker 1: Is that really the most logical approach? Now, I don't 1068 00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:14,960 Speaker 1: think that's what Kenny Dillingham saying. What Kenny Dillingham's saying 1069 00:53:15,080 --> 00:53:18,400 Speaker 1: is I have worked my tail off and now I 1070 00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:21,680 Speaker 1: get to this point and I'm not the one complaining, 1071 00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:24,400 Speaker 1: And a bunch of y'all fools who are already financially 1072 00:53:24,440 --> 00:53:27,239 Speaker 1: set ten times over are the ones complaining. And you're 1073 00:53:27,280 --> 00:53:29,960 Speaker 1: not even doing it yourselves. You're getting mouthpieces in the 1074 00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:32,719 Speaker 1: media to do it. And I'm doing the same thing. 1075 00:53:33,040 --> 00:53:34,920 Speaker 1: I'm only echoing what a lot of these guys have 1076 00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:37,680 Speaker 1: told me. So in a sense, I'm a mouthpiece right 1077 00:53:37,719 --> 00:53:39,799 Speaker 1: now for coaches when I talk about this, because I'm 1078 00:53:39,840 --> 00:53:42,040 Speaker 1: sure not coaching a team. I'm just the chancellor at 1079 00:53:42,040 --> 00:53:44,040 Speaker 1: pay State. I don't coach the team day to day. 1080 00:53:44,680 --> 00:53:46,600 Speaker 1: So I think that rubs a lot of coaches the 1081 00:53:46,640 --> 00:53:48,560 Speaker 1: wrong way, and if it does, it does not the 1082 00:53:48,560 --> 00:53:50,440 Speaker 1: worst thing in the world for guys to. 1083 00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:52,520 Speaker 2: Disagree on things in this sport. It's not the worst 1084 00:53:52,520 --> 00:53:53,920 Speaker 2: thing in the world. Let's move on. 1085 00:53:55,320 --> 00:53:57,920 Speaker 1: This is a diverse rundown tonight. We got a lot 1086 00:53:57,960 --> 00:54:01,200 Speaker 1: of different angles we're going at. And I also want 1087 00:54:01,239 --> 00:54:02,719 Speaker 1: to take time to thank you for watching the show. 1088 00:54:02,719 --> 00:54:04,960 Speaker 1: If you're watching it, just subscribe to the channel. That's 1089 00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:05,520 Speaker 1: all we ask. 1090 00:54:06,880 --> 00:54:08,680 Speaker 2: You want to talk about some mystery teams. 1091 00:54:08,719 --> 00:54:10,160 Speaker 1: I threw four at you the other night, and I 1092 00:54:10,200 --> 00:54:13,120 Speaker 1: decided that's not nearly enough because we didn't talk about Miami, 1093 00:54:13,200 --> 00:54:16,200 Speaker 1: for example. Miami is a huge mystery team in twenty 1094 00:54:16,280 --> 00:54:18,879 Speaker 1: twenty four. Twenty twenty four has been the circle year 1095 00:54:18,880 --> 00:54:21,680 Speaker 1: for them down there. We were down their last spring 1096 00:54:22,080 --> 00:54:24,840 Speaker 1: and behind the scenes, I didn't necessarily articulate this at 1097 00:54:24,880 --> 00:54:27,400 Speaker 1: the time, but I will now. Behind the scenes, the 1098 00:54:27,400 --> 00:54:30,800 Speaker 1: coaches all told me the same thing. They said twenty 1099 00:54:30,880 --> 00:54:33,680 Speaker 1: twenty three, we will be better this year, and they were. 1100 00:54:34,440 --> 00:54:36,680 Speaker 1: But He's all of them said, twenty twenty four is 1101 00:54:36,719 --> 00:54:39,160 Speaker 1: the year where we really feel like it'll be our team. 1102 00:54:39,560 --> 00:54:42,400 Speaker 1: We feel good about twenty twenty four and moving forward. 1103 00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:42,840 Speaker 2: Well, okay. 1104 00:54:44,040 --> 00:54:46,360 Speaker 1: The reason I never have problem with that kind of 1105 00:54:46,440 --> 00:54:49,360 Speaker 1: talk as long as it's in the future tents is 1106 00:54:49,400 --> 00:54:52,759 Speaker 1: because that day will come eventually, So that time is 1107 00:54:52,800 --> 00:54:55,640 Speaker 1: now for Miami. The win totals at nine and a half. 1108 00:54:55,719 --> 00:54:58,959 Speaker 1: Odds makers believe in them. Talent acquisition has been there. 1109 00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:01,920 Speaker 1: There are good and football players on that team to 1110 00:55:02,040 --> 00:55:05,000 Speaker 1: compete in the ACC. This year they got cam Ward 1111 00:55:05,000 --> 00:55:09,000 Speaker 1: from the transfer Portal, the Washington State quarterback. You have 1112 00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:13,000 Speaker 1: the questions around Mario Christobaul, not about talent acquisition, but 1113 00:55:13,080 --> 00:55:15,640 Speaker 1: about winning ultimately on the field, and I don't have 1114 00:55:15,680 --> 00:55:18,279 Speaker 1: a problem with him only because he's got a chance 1115 00:55:18,320 --> 00:55:20,640 Speaker 1: to answer them on the field. This thought is not 1116 00:55:20,680 --> 00:55:24,200 Speaker 1: a hypothetical. In other words, Miami's a mystery team. Because 1117 00:55:24,200 --> 00:55:26,880 Speaker 1: of that, they went from five and seven to seven 1118 00:55:26,920 --> 00:55:30,880 Speaker 1: and six. Oddsmakers expect another jump this year. The mystery 1119 00:55:30,960 --> 00:55:34,280 Speaker 1: is will you get it next up Tennessee. I believe 1120 00:55:34,280 --> 00:55:37,400 Speaker 1: in Josh Hipel. We are believers here in Josh Hipel, 1121 00:55:38,360 --> 00:55:40,799 Speaker 1: and he's got Niko iam alia Ave at quarterback this year. 1122 00:55:40,880 --> 00:55:43,960 Speaker 1: So I think the plan all along was knowing you 1123 00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:46,640 Speaker 1: had Nico coming in. Joe Milton will be a bridge 1124 00:55:46,760 --> 00:55:50,439 Speaker 1: quarterback to Nico Iamaliava. Well that's where we are right 1125 00:55:50,480 --> 00:55:52,880 Speaker 1: now in February. A spring ball is about to open. 1126 00:55:53,600 --> 00:55:56,560 Speaker 1: The total, the win total for Tennessee's been BET up 1127 00:55:56,600 --> 00:55:58,680 Speaker 1: to nine and a half. That's not where it opened. 1128 00:55:59,120 --> 00:56:02,359 Speaker 1: It's been BET up to nine and a half. They're 1129 00:56:02,360 --> 00:56:05,839 Speaker 1: losing a lot of production. That's the quote unquote bad news. 1130 00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:09,920 Speaker 1: They're ninety fourth and returning production this year. I really 1131 00:56:09,960 --> 00:56:12,279 Speaker 1: believe in Josh Haipel. I believe what he can end, 1132 00:56:12,280 --> 00:56:15,400 Speaker 1: what he can do with elite quarterback skill set, and 1133 00:56:15,440 --> 00:56:18,080 Speaker 1: I think he's got that there. And while Nico Iamliava 1134 00:56:18,080 --> 00:56:20,759 Speaker 1: maybe a first year starter this upcoming year, he's not 1135 00:56:20,760 --> 00:56:22,520 Speaker 1: a first year guy. He's been in the program a 1136 00:56:22,560 --> 00:56:26,360 Speaker 1: whole year. I got zero doubt whatsoever that coaching staff 1137 00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:29,360 Speaker 1: will maximize his potential. And I think they're going to 1138 00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:31,919 Speaker 1: be a contender this year. That's what I think the 1139 00:56:31,960 --> 00:56:36,000 Speaker 1: mystery is is the overall top to bottom talent roster 1140 00:56:36,080 --> 00:56:38,200 Speaker 1: is it ready for the grind that will be the 1141 00:56:38,239 --> 00:56:39,560 Speaker 1: SEC regular season. 1142 00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:41,160 Speaker 2: I think yes. 1143 00:56:41,600 --> 00:56:44,520 Speaker 1: They go back to back at Oklahoma at Arkansas and 1144 00:56:44,560 --> 00:56:47,920 Speaker 1: then Florida and Alabama early in the year, and there 1145 00:56:47,960 --> 00:56:48,800 Speaker 1: is a bye week. 1146 00:56:48,560 --> 00:56:50,279 Speaker 2: Mixed in there, but you'll know pretty quick. 1147 00:56:50,440 --> 00:56:55,919 Speaker 1: With Tennessee Virginia Tech, yes, yes, yes, yes, Virginia Tech 1148 00:56:56,600 --> 00:56:57,880 Speaker 1: feels like they're in ascension. 1149 00:56:57,920 --> 00:56:58,200 Speaker 2: Mode. 1150 00:56:58,440 --> 00:57:00,720 Speaker 1: Normally, I don't talk about ascension mode till post spring. 1151 00:57:01,600 --> 00:57:04,360 Speaker 1: But ascension mode is just that. It's like when you 1152 00:57:04,400 --> 00:57:07,600 Speaker 1: take off from the airport and you're climbing. Maybe some turbulence, 1153 00:57:07,640 --> 00:57:11,960 Speaker 1: maybe smooth, but you're climbing. Programs do that too, and 1154 00:57:12,000 --> 00:57:14,120 Speaker 1: it feels like Virginia Tech's doing that. They got an 1155 00:57:14,120 --> 00:57:15,960 Speaker 1: over under win total of seven and a half this year. 1156 00:57:16,600 --> 00:57:18,800 Speaker 1: Said that fast. They've got an over under win total 1157 00:57:18,840 --> 00:57:22,080 Speaker 1: of seven and a half games this year. They are 1158 00:57:22,200 --> 00:57:24,920 Speaker 1: number one in the country in returning production. Now, the 1159 00:57:24,960 --> 00:57:27,600 Speaker 1: old catch twenty two in college football has always been 1160 00:57:28,000 --> 00:57:29,720 Speaker 1: do you really want to have a lot of players 1161 00:57:29,720 --> 00:57:32,880 Speaker 1: coming back if they're coming back from a bad team. Well, 1162 00:57:33,400 --> 00:57:35,880 Speaker 1: in Virginia Tech's case, yes, because they weren't a bad 1163 00:57:35,920 --> 00:57:38,720 Speaker 1: team last year and they got better as the year 1164 00:57:38,760 --> 00:57:42,080 Speaker 1: went on. Love the energy around the program. Okay, so 1165 00:57:42,880 --> 00:57:47,760 Speaker 1: they're a mystery because you still have games against rosters 1166 00:57:47,760 --> 00:57:51,360 Speaker 1: that are better than you, and so you can question 1167 00:57:51,440 --> 00:57:54,400 Speaker 1: whether recruiting continues to uptick because they still have to 1168 00:57:54,400 --> 00:57:58,880 Speaker 1: get better there. And you can also question could they 1169 00:57:58,960 --> 00:58:01,000 Speaker 1: end up being like Texas So you know how everyone 1170 00:58:01,040 --> 00:58:03,480 Speaker 1: was high on Texas Tech last year and they stumbled 1171 00:58:03,480 --> 00:58:04,760 Speaker 1: a couple of times out of the gate, and then 1172 00:58:04,760 --> 00:58:07,600 Speaker 1: they're off everyone's radar. Well, Virginia Tech could be that 1173 00:58:07,720 --> 00:58:11,600 Speaker 1: this year, like they open at Vanderbilt. Most people will 1174 00:58:11,920 --> 00:58:13,920 Speaker 1: pencil that in as a win for Virginia Tech. But 1175 00:58:13,960 --> 00:58:16,040 Speaker 1: it's not a given. It's not a given they beat 1176 00:58:16,120 --> 00:58:18,960 Speaker 1: Marshall in week two or beat Rutgers in Week four. 1177 00:58:19,040 --> 00:58:21,360 Speaker 1: Rutgers very underrated team this year, and then they go 1178 00:58:21,400 --> 00:58:23,280 Speaker 1: to Miami. So my point is, what if they have 1179 00:58:23,320 --> 00:58:27,520 Speaker 1: two losses by the end of September. That's why they're 1180 00:58:27,560 --> 00:58:29,640 Speaker 1: a mystery team, because they could also win every one 1181 00:58:29,680 --> 00:58:32,320 Speaker 1: of those games and the Stanford game and the Boston 1182 00:58:32,320 --> 00:58:35,240 Speaker 1: College game, and you start to look, it's not a 1183 00:58:35,320 --> 00:58:38,360 Speaker 1: murderer's row, is it? In fact, they get all the 1184 00:58:38,400 --> 00:58:42,280 Speaker 1: way Jesse worked with me here, So one, two, three, four, 1185 00:58:42,640 --> 00:58:48,240 Speaker 1: Miami would be ranked I think Clemson in week nine 1186 00:58:48,360 --> 00:58:50,920 Speaker 1: or ten. It's a very workable schedule. It's what I'm 1187 00:58:50,920 --> 00:58:52,880 Speaker 1: saying now. I wish you could see on podcast what 1188 00:58:52,920 --> 00:58:55,600 Speaker 1: I'm seeing right now. They have not had a double 1189 00:58:55,640 --> 00:58:58,400 Speaker 1: digit win season since twenty sixteen, had had a Bowl 1190 00:58:58,440 --> 00:59:00,920 Speaker 1: win up until last year, since sixteen. So they can 1191 00:59:00,960 --> 00:59:02,800 Speaker 1: go ten and two this year they go six and 1192 00:59:02,880 --> 00:59:07,040 Speaker 1: six classic mystery team. Also Nebraska, because we now get 1193 00:59:07,080 --> 00:59:09,640 Speaker 1: to we now get to press the Matt rule. 1194 00:59:09,720 --> 00:59:10,240 Speaker 2: Year two. 1195 00:59:10,320 --> 00:59:15,840 Speaker 1: Button been very profitable in the past defensive s and 1196 00:59:15,880 --> 00:59:19,760 Speaker 1: p plus they are sixth in the country offensively, one 1197 00:59:19,800 --> 00:59:25,080 Speaker 1: hundred and fifteenth translation save us Dylan Dylan Ryola decommitted 1198 00:59:25,120 --> 00:59:29,040 Speaker 1: from Georgia went to Nebraska, five star quarterback. We'll probably, 1199 00:59:29,080 --> 00:59:31,760 Speaker 1: I guess start for them this year. Defense will be 1200 00:59:31,840 --> 00:59:34,200 Speaker 1: good like Tony White and company. Defense will be good, 1201 00:59:34,640 --> 00:59:38,200 Speaker 1: have no doubt about that. How good will their offensive be. 1202 00:59:38,240 --> 00:59:41,200 Speaker 1: It's like the LSU, but the opposite LSU last year. 1203 00:59:41,240 --> 00:59:43,280 Speaker 1: I just I wish you could be a top forty 1204 00:59:43,400 --> 00:59:48,120 Speaker 1: unit defensively well. Can Nebraska offensively climb out of the 1205 00:59:48,120 --> 00:59:52,480 Speaker 1: one hundreds into respectability because that quite literally will be 1206 00:59:52,560 --> 00:59:55,760 Speaker 1: the difference in all those one possession games one possession 1207 00:59:55,840 --> 00:59:58,919 Speaker 1: U that's what you can call Nebraska for several years now, 1208 01:00:00,280 --> 01:00:04,920 Speaker 1: chronic issue with them winning or not winning one possession games. 1209 01:00:05,200 --> 01:00:08,720 Speaker 1: So they're the same as VATEC got a whole lineup 1210 01:00:08,720 --> 01:00:13,880 Speaker 1: of games early in the year, UTEP, Colorado, Northern Iowa, Illinois, Perdue, Rutgers, 1211 01:00:13,920 --> 01:00:17,240 Speaker 1: Indiana up through the Ohio State game. You look at 1212 01:00:17,280 --> 01:00:18,800 Speaker 1: every one of those and say, boy, if we play 1213 01:00:18,840 --> 01:00:21,760 Speaker 1: our a game, we can win. He yeah, that's right, 1214 01:00:21,960 --> 01:00:24,040 Speaker 1: that's right. If you play your C plus game, you 1215 01:00:24,040 --> 01:00:26,600 Speaker 1: can lose many of them as well. That's a mystery team. 1216 01:00:27,800 --> 01:00:32,520 Speaker 1: Mystery abounds. College football what a great sport. Oh no, 1217 01:00:32,760 --> 01:00:35,760 Speaker 1: I did it. I made the BHLS. If you know, 1218 01:00:35,840 --> 01:00:38,320 Speaker 1: you know, if you don't worry about it, especially those 1219 01:00:38,320 --> 01:00:40,760 Speaker 1: of you on podcasts, I just got a bad habit 1220 01:00:40,800 --> 01:00:42,680 Speaker 1: when I put on the lipbamb and I've got to 1221 01:00:43,760 --> 01:00:47,120 Speaker 1: I gotta wipe myself clean of it. You just saw 1222 01:00:47,120 --> 01:00:49,080 Speaker 1: a lot of odds there, and I've given you a 1223 01:00:49,080 --> 01:00:49,720 Speaker 1: lot of odds. 1224 01:00:49,720 --> 01:00:51,440 Speaker 2: And our buddies. 1225 01:00:51,120 --> 01:00:53,400 Speaker 1: At FanDuel are the reason that we have those odds. 1226 01:00:53,400 --> 01:00:56,040 Speaker 1: They are the exclusive odds provider of Late Kick. Now. 1227 01:00:56,080 --> 01:00:59,000 Speaker 1: I know I made a swipe at college basketball earlier 1228 01:00:59,000 --> 01:01:00,480 Speaker 1: in the show, but I also I know a lot 1229 01:01:00,520 --> 01:01:04,080 Speaker 1: of you are glued on Saturday's college basketball and I 1230 01:01:04,120 --> 01:01:06,840 Speaker 1: just want to let you know. Man, you look at 1231 01:01:06,840 --> 01:01:09,880 Speaker 1: the Saint Bonaventure game and you need a little extra 1232 01:01:09,960 --> 01:01:12,960 Speaker 1: something on it. Throw five bucks on it, especially a FanDuel, 1233 01:01:13,040 --> 01:01:14,520 Speaker 1: cause if you bet five, you get one to fifty 1234 01:01:14,560 --> 01:01:17,640 Speaker 1: and bonus bets anyway. So I mean there's nothing light 1235 01:01:17,720 --> 01:01:20,280 Speaker 1: watching the Bonnies go up and down the hardwood with 1236 01:01:20,440 --> 01:01:23,800 Speaker 1: five or ten dollars riding on the outcome. That that's 1237 01:01:23,920 --> 01:01:25,960 Speaker 1: living life right there. I mean that is that is 1238 01:01:26,120 --> 01:01:29,880 Speaker 1: white knuckle edge of your seat excitement. And I speak 1239 01:01:30,480 --> 01:01:34,280 Speaker 1: with such knowledge because once upon a time I lived 1240 01:01:34,320 --> 01:01:37,600 Speaker 1: and died with so Con basketball second halves. 1241 01:01:38,240 --> 01:01:40,560 Speaker 2: I am not making this up. Jesse knows this story. 1242 01:01:40,600 --> 01:01:43,560 Speaker 1: I think I used to go hard on the so 1243 01:01:43,760 --> 01:01:48,600 Speaker 1: Con second half totals like you NC Wilmington Elon. 1244 01:01:49,080 --> 01:01:51,040 Speaker 2: I mean I was sick. I was a really really 1245 01:01:51,080 --> 01:01:52,760 Speaker 2: sick person. But I thought I had. 1246 01:01:52,640 --> 01:01:56,640 Speaker 1: An angle and I did you think you think the 1247 01:01:56,680 --> 01:01:59,240 Speaker 1: model does good picking football games? Should have seen what 1248 01:01:59,240 --> 01:02:01,040 Speaker 1: we used to do in the so Conn in basketball. 1249 01:02:01,160 --> 01:02:02,040 Speaker 1: But that's behind me. 1250 01:02:02,120 --> 01:02:02,320 Speaker 2: Now. 1251 01:02:02,560 --> 01:02:05,920 Speaker 1: I'm just just a casual better like the rest of you. 1252 01:02:06,160 --> 01:02:08,800 Speaker 1: But I will say, FanDuel, when you do it is 1253 01:02:08,840 --> 01:02:11,280 Speaker 1: the place to go. Must be twenty one or over 1254 01:02:11,320 --> 01:02:14,520 Speaker 1: and present in select states. FanDuel is offering online sports 1255 01:02:14,560 --> 01:02:18,200 Speaker 1: wagering in Kansas under an agreement with Kansas Star Casino LLC. 1256 01:02:18,480 --> 01:02:22,240 Speaker 1: First online real money wager only ten dollars first deposit required. 1257 01:02:22,560 --> 01:02:25,720 Speaker 1: Bonus issued is non withdrawable. 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In West Virginia, 1270 01:03:13,200 --> 01:03:15,720 Speaker 1: or call one eight hundred five to two two forty 1271 01:03:15,720 --> 01:03:20,440 Speaker 1: seven hundred In Wyoming, Hope is here. Visit Gamblinghelpline MA 1272 01:03:20,520 --> 01:03:23,920 Speaker 1: dot org or call eight hundred three two seven fifty 1273 01:03:24,000 --> 01:03:27,200 Speaker 1: fifty for twenty four seven support in Massachusetts or call 1274 01:03:27,280 --> 01:03:30,640 Speaker 1: one eight seven seven eight Hope dash n WY or 1275 01:03:30,720 --> 01:03:32,919 Speaker 1: text Hope and why in New York. 1276 01:03:33,280 --> 01:03:34,120 Speaker 2: All right, with. 1277 01:03:34,240 --> 01:03:38,480 Speaker 1: Baited breath, a world awaits my thoughts on the following topic. 1278 01:03:39,320 --> 01:03:41,720 Speaker 2: King Sprayo, good friend of the program. 1279 01:03:41,520 --> 01:03:43,120 Speaker 1: Hit me up and said, Hey, how strong of an 1280 01:03:43,120 --> 01:03:45,640 Speaker 1: impact do you think that new college football video game 1281 01:03:45,680 --> 01:03:49,800 Speaker 1: will have on this season and in the future? Very big, 1282 01:03:50,280 --> 01:03:53,760 Speaker 1: very big. First off, hat tip to EA Sports. They 1283 01:03:53,760 --> 01:03:58,160 Speaker 1: have brilliantly marketed this release. Great job they had. I 1284 01:03:58,160 --> 01:04:02,720 Speaker 1: think every major program in Unison this morning tweet out 1285 01:04:02,880 --> 01:04:06,360 Speaker 1: promotion and saying we're in the game. And several players 1286 01:04:06,400 --> 01:04:09,320 Speaker 1: today I saw Travis Hunter, Quinn, you Wers, several players 1287 01:04:09,320 --> 01:04:12,320 Speaker 1: confirming we're in the game. And then simultaneous to that, 1288 01:04:12,640 --> 01:04:15,920 Speaker 1: like Rhees, Davis Kirkirve Street, a lot of the broadcasters tweeting. 1289 01:04:15,560 --> 01:04:16,320 Speaker 2: We're in the game. 1290 01:04:17,520 --> 01:04:19,840 Speaker 1: That stuff doesn't happen by accident. I know, you guys 1291 01:04:19,880 --> 01:04:21,640 Speaker 1: sit out there and you think to yourself, caped duh. 1292 01:04:21,680 --> 01:04:22,720 Speaker 1: I mean that's common sense. 1293 01:04:23,080 --> 01:04:25,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it is. 1294 01:04:25,240 --> 01:04:29,240 Speaker 1: In precious it's in It's a precious commodity. Let me 1295 01:04:29,240 --> 01:04:31,240 Speaker 1: just say it that way. It's precious commodity. When you 1296 01:04:31,280 --> 01:04:37,680 Speaker 1: have synergy and you have alignment in releasing anything. It's 1297 01:04:37,720 --> 01:04:39,360 Speaker 1: a lot harder than it looks. Let me just put 1298 01:04:39,360 --> 01:04:39,640 Speaker 1: it that way. 1299 01:04:39,680 --> 01:04:42,200 Speaker 2: Immunity. So I think it's gonna have a very big impact. 1300 01:04:42,960 --> 01:04:45,600 Speaker 1: It is hard to believe for people who don't play 1301 01:04:45,680 --> 01:04:48,160 Speaker 1: video games, me included, I don't ever play them. It's 1302 01:04:48,200 --> 01:04:50,320 Speaker 1: hard to believe for people who don't play video games, 1303 01:04:50,520 --> 01:04:54,040 Speaker 1: or especially are more seasoned portions of the audience. It 1304 01:04:54,080 --> 01:04:56,200 Speaker 1: may be hard for you to believe this, but it's true. 1305 01:04:57,000 --> 01:05:00,720 Speaker 1: There is a vast swath of the younger generation who 1306 01:05:00,800 --> 01:05:03,760 Speaker 1: comes in the front door of a sport by first 1307 01:05:03,800 --> 01:05:08,400 Speaker 1: playing the video game. Soccer is majorly like this. I've 1308 01:05:08,440 --> 01:05:12,240 Speaker 1: got many of my personal friends who either still don't 1309 01:05:12,280 --> 01:05:16,240 Speaker 1: watch soccer or only started watching soccer because they played 1310 01:05:16,280 --> 01:05:17,000 Speaker 1: the FIFA game. 1311 01:05:17,960 --> 01:05:18,080 Speaker 2: Like. 1312 01:05:18,360 --> 01:05:20,480 Speaker 1: That's not me. I've never done that, but I know 1313 01:05:20,480 --> 01:05:22,040 Speaker 1: a lot of people do that. You've got an entire 1314 01:05:22,080 --> 01:05:25,240 Speaker 1: generation that has not had this video game for a decade, 1315 01:05:25,400 --> 01:05:27,560 Speaker 1: and they're about to have it again. So I mean, 1316 01:05:27,640 --> 01:05:29,960 Speaker 1: I know a lot of your lapsed gamers. And you'll 1317 01:05:30,000 --> 01:05:32,080 Speaker 1: jump back in at age thirty four and your kids 1318 01:05:32,120 --> 01:05:34,360 Speaker 1: won't see you for a month, and your life will 1319 01:05:34,360 --> 01:05:36,320 Speaker 1: fall completely off the rails, but it'll be worth it 1320 01:05:36,320 --> 01:05:38,919 Speaker 1: because you won a national championship with Maryland. But there 1321 01:05:38,920 --> 01:05:41,600 Speaker 1: are also twelve year olds out there who have never 1322 01:05:41,640 --> 01:05:43,720 Speaker 1: played this game in their lives, and all of a sudden, 1323 01:05:43,960 --> 01:05:46,440 Speaker 1: they're about to fire it up and say, wow, this 1324 01:05:46,520 --> 01:05:47,480 Speaker 1: is pretty incredible. 1325 01:05:47,640 --> 01:05:49,240 Speaker 2: What's this game? College football? 1326 01:05:49,440 --> 01:05:51,000 Speaker 1: That's the one where the guys I watch in the 1327 01:05:51,080 --> 01:05:53,320 Speaker 1: NFL Draft, that's where they come from. Right, maybe I'll 1328 01:05:53,320 --> 01:05:55,680 Speaker 1: give it a try, and then all of a sudden, boom, 1329 01:05:55,760 --> 01:06:00,320 Speaker 1: Ohio State and Michigan they're glued to it. Here's what 1330 01:06:00,400 --> 01:06:02,640 Speaker 1: I want to avoid. I went to producer Jesse for 1331 01:06:02,680 --> 01:06:05,040 Speaker 1: guidance on this. Here's what I think we have to avoid. 1332 01:06:05,440 --> 01:06:08,160 Speaker 1: We have to avoid a couple of things. One is inevitable, 1333 01:06:08,280 --> 01:06:09,280 Speaker 1: one's unavoidable. 1334 01:06:09,960 --> 01:06:10,720 Speaker 2: This is going to. 1335 01:06:10,800 --> 01:06:14,040 Speaker 1: Lead to a massive uptick in questioning play calling. You 1336 01:06:14,080 --> 01:06:17,920 Speaker 1: know it's coming. I know it's coming. People never stopped 1337 01:06:17,960 --> 01:06:20,000 Speaker 1: questioning play calling, but for a little while when we 1338 01:06:20,040 --> 01:06:22,760 Speaker 1: didn't have this game and you didn't have folks thinking 1339 01:06:22,800 --> 01:06:27,440 Speaker 1: they're calling a game multiple times per day. I haven't 1340 01:06:27,560 --> 01:06:31,760 Speaker 1: noticed as much questioning of play calling over the last 1341 01:06:31,800 --> 01:06:32,480 Speaker 1: several years. 1342 01:06:32,480 --> 01:06:34,280 Speaker 2: But I will promise you friends. 1343 01:06:34,800 --> 01:06:38,080 Speaker 1: Once a dude runs half back direct fifteen times and 1344 01:06:38,120 --> 01:06:41,680 Speaker 1: beats Michigan with it in a video game, he will 1345 01:06:41,760 --> 01:06:44,320 Speaker 1: begin to question why Rutgers is not doing it in 1346 01:06:44,360 --> 01:06:48,040 Speaker 1: real life, like Schiano's an idiot run HB direct. I 1347 01:06:48,040 --> 01:06:50,360 Speaker 1: saw Will Stein talking about it at Oregon earlier today. 1348 01:06:50,640 --> 01:06:52,880 Speaker 1: I used to run half back direct. I played the 1349 01:06:53,120 --> 01:06:55,480 Speaker 1: five game with Reggie on the cover. I ran a 1350 01:06:55,480 --> 01:06:58,480 Speaker 1: half back direct offense. Drove my friends up the wall. 1351 01:06:58,680 --> 01:07:00,800 Speaker 1: They tried to outlawed. It's like playing with Vic on 1352 01:07:00,840 --> 01:07:03,440 Speaker 1: the early editions of Madden. You shouldn't be allowed to 1353 01:07:03,480 --> 01:07:05,880 Speaker 1: run half back direct because I can't defend it. 1354 01:07:05,800 --> 01:07:08,720 Speaker 2: It sounds like a U problem, not a ME problem. 1355 01:07:09,040 --> 01:07:13,080 Speaker 1: And so there will be mass questioning of play calling 1356 01:07:13,120 --> 01:07:16,880 Speaker 1: from people who think playing a video game is tenamount 1357 01:07:16,920 --> 01:07:18,800 Speaker 1: to calling plays in real life. It's the same folks 1358 01:07:18,840 --> 01:07:20,960 Speaker 1: who think they'd be good in combat because they play 1359 01:07:21,000 --> 01:07:24,560 Speaker 1: Call of Duty, same crew, same group. Secondly, here's what 1360 01:07:24,600 --> 01:07:27,440 Speaker 1: I talked to Jesse about. We got to avoid what 1361 01:07:27,440 --> 01:07:30,360 Speaker 1: I call the Fox BCS disaster, and that is where 1362 01:07:30,400 --> 01:07:32,800 Speaker 1: Fox once upon a time got the rights to the 1363 01:07:32,880 --> 01:07:37,120 Speaker 1: BCS for a few years, but they didn't change the 1364 01:07:37,240 --> 01:07:41,520 Speaker 1: NFL themes. They just plugged college football names and graphics 1365 01:07:41,520 --> 01:07:44,120 Speaker 1: into their NFL themes, so they kept the same scoreboard, 1366 01:07:44,360 --> 01:07:46,800 Speaker 1: they kept the same music, and you were watching like 1367 01:07:46,840 --> 01:07:49,800 Speaker 1: Oklahoma versus Florida and you might as well be watching 1368 01:07:49,840 --> 01:07:53,120 Speaker 1: Chiefs Bucks And it was stupid. It didn't feel authentically 1369 01:07:53,120 --> 01:07:55,800 Speaker 1: college football. Well, a lot of folks worried about that 1370 01:07:55,840 --> 01:07:58,360 Speaker 1: with this college football game. How's the gameplay? Are you 1371 01:07:58,440 --> 01:08:00,440 Speaker 1: using the Madden Engine? I'm talking about uff I know 1372 01:08:00,480 --> 01:08:02,920 Speaker 1: nothing about right now, but don't worry because Jesse has 1373 01:08:02,960 --> 01:08:06,240 Speaker 1: equipped me with this knowledge. And rumor on the street, 1374 01:08:06,320 --> 01:08:08,520 Speaker 1: rumor on the gaming streets is there's a lot of 1375 01:08:08,520 --> 01:08:13,120 Speaker 1: concern is it going to be authentically college football? And 1376 01:08:13,160 --> 01:08:16,800 Speaker 1: an anxious gaming world awaits And I await you guys 1377 01:08:16,800 --> 01:08:18,400 Speaker 1: to tell me, because I probably won't be there at 1378 01:08:18,439 --> 01:08:19,080 Speaker 1: the sticks with you. 1379 01:08:19,360 --> 01:08:20,799 Speaker 2: Having said that, when. 1380 01:08:20,680 --> 01:08:23,760 Speaker 1: It comes time to create a team, anyone who's not 1381 01:08:23,800 --> 01:08:26,680 Speaker 1: playing with Peyton State is no friend. 1382 01:08:26,400 --> 01:08:27,800 Speaker 2: Of this program. 1383 01:08:27,920 --> 01:08:31,400 Speaker 1: So yes, we have got a big summer ahead of us, 1384 01:08:31,600 --> 01:08:34,000 Speaker 1: and productivity will grind to a hulk when this thing 1385 01:08:34,080 --> 01:08:36,320 Speaker 1: comes out. And I'm all for it because at least 1386 01:08:36,320 --> 01:08:38,200 Speaker 1: you're focused on the greatest game in the world. 1387 01:08:38,200 --> 01:08:38,840 Speaker 2: One way or the other. 1388 01:08:39,080 --> 01:08:40,880 Speaker 1: That's our show for tonight. We will be back at 1389 01:08:40,880 --> 01:08:44,519 Speaker 1: the same time Sunday night. Until then for producer Jesse 1390 01:08:44,600 --> 01:08:46,439 Speaker 1: For direct colin, I'm Josh Bate. Take care, have a 1391 01:08:46,439 --> 01:08:47,599 Speaker 1: great start to your weekend. 1392 01:08:47,680 --> 01:08:47,960 Speaker 2: Thank God. 1393 01:08:48,000 --> 01:09:02,800 Speaker 1: Bless must be twenty one or over and present in 1394 01:09:02,840 --> 01:09:06,280 Speaker 1: select states. FanDuel is offering online sports wagering in Kansas 1395 01:09:06,400 --> 01:09:09,960 Speaker 1: under an agreement with Kansas Star Casino LLC. 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