WEBVTT - Shooter Without A Cause

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<v Speaker 1>Cool Zone Media. Hello everyone, Molly Konger here. You've probably

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<v Speaker 1>noticed this episode showed up on your feed on an

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<v Speaker 1>unusual day. If you're a diehard listener of another show

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<v Speaker 1>on the network, it could happen here. You may have

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<v Speaker 1>also noticed that this isn't exactly a brand new episode.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm not here this week. I'm not thinking about

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<v Speaker 1>were Little Guys at all right now. I'm on my honeymoon.

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<v Speaker 1>The show feed will run old episodes this week and

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<v Speaker 1>next week, so there will be something on your feed

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<v Speaker 1>on the usual day, but I wanted to drop in

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<v Speaker 1>a little something extra this week too. This episode is

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<v Speaker 1>one that originally aired last summer on It could Happen here,

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<v Speaker 1>so some of you may have heard it already, and

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<v Speaker 1>there are a few references to the fact that it's

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<v Speaker 1>August of twenty twenty four. I didn't change those lines,

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<v Speaker 1>but I have slightly edited and re recorded the episode

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<v Speaker 1>so my talented audio engineer Rory could give this the

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<v Speaker 1>full weird little guy's audio feel. So if you missed

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<v Speaker 1>it last summer, I hope you'll enjoy this story about

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<v Speaker 1>the very weird little guy who shot a segregationist Because

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<v Speaker 1>it turned out shooting Richard Nixon was too hard. Remember

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<v Speaker 1>that time Donald Trump got shot? I kind of don't.

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<v Speaker 1>It feels like it was one hundred years ago or

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<v Speaker 1>in a dream. I barely remember who I was during

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<v Speaker 1>those tense few days where it seemed possible Trump would

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<v Speaker 1>ride that momentum to victory, imagining posters of that photo

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<v Speaker 1>of Trump with blood dripping down his face, fist raised.

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<v Speaker 1>And then it kind of didn't matter at all anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>We all forgot. The shooter wasn't a Biden sleeper agent

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<v Speaker 1>sent to take down the opposition. He was just some

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<v Speaker 1>kid with a rifle and the kind of uniquely American

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<v Speaker 1>desire to cause chaos with it. And that was really

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<v Speaker 1>hard for a lot of people to swallow. What do

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<v Speaker 1>you mean it doesn't seem like he was politically motivated.

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<v Speaker 1>He shot the former president. He shot him while he

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<v Speaker 1>was on stage at a rally for his campaign to

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<v Speaker 1>retake the presidency. Everything about the situation was political. How

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<v Speaker 1>could the shooter have had any other motivation? But he

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't be the first guy to take a shot at

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<v Speaker 1>a president or a presidential candidate for what seems like

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<v Speaker 1>no reason at all. Far from it, As it turns out,

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<v Speaker 1>while I was doing the research for the first episode

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<v Speaker 1>of Wee Little Guys, I got lost on some side quests.

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<v Speaker 1>That's always happening to me. But as I breathed past

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<v Speaker 1>a quick mention of George Wallace, the four term governor

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<v Speaker 1>of Alabama who is perhaps best remembered for his rallying

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<v Speaker 1>cry of segregation now, segregation tomorrow, segregation forever. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>the one I remembered that he had gotten shot while

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<v Speaker 1>he was running for president too. During the primary in

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen seventy two, George Wallace was paralyzed after surviving an

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<v Speaker 1>attempted assassination on the campaign trail. Surely, whoever shot a

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<v Speaker 1>man like George Wallace did it out of a deep

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<v Speaker 1>ideological commitment to something right. Maybe it was a civil

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<v Speaker 1>rights activist who opposed Wallace's views on race, or a

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<v Speaker 1>McGovern voter concerned about Wallace's attempt to gain the Democratic

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<v Speaker 1>Party nomination after he'd won five states as a third

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<v Speaker 1>party candidate in nineteen sixty eight. Or maybe it was

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<v Speaker 1>a diehard Nixon supporter who saw Wallace as a spoiler,

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<v Speaker 1>siphoning conservative votes away from Nixon. But that's not what happened.

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<v Speaker 1>When Arthur Bremer shot George Wallace four times in the

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<v Speaker 1>chest and stomach on May fifteenth, nineteen seventy two. It

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<v Speaker 1>had nothing at all to do with Wallace's policy positions,

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<v Speaker 1>or honestly, even really anything to do with George Wallace.

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<v Speaker 1>Rehmer had been planning for months to assassinate Richard Nixon,

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<v Speaker 1>but it turned out that was too hard. He just

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to shoot somebody important. I hesitate to draw too

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<v Speaker 1>many comparisons to the Trump shooter because there's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>we still don't know and may never know. But it

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<v Speaker 1>has come out that Thomas Crooks was equally interested in

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<v Speaker 1>shooting Joe Biden. Trump just happened to have had a

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<v Speaker 1>campaign rally close to his home in Pennsylvania with weak

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<v Speaker 1>perimeter security. Crooks had also looked into how to get

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<v Speaker 1>close to FBI Director Christopher Ray, Attorney General Merrick Garland,

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<v Speaker 1>and inexplicably Kate Middleton. Yes, that Kate Middleton, the Princess

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<v Speaker 1>of Wales. If Biden had been campaigning in western Pennsylvania,

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<v Speaker 1>or if Richard Nixon's security had been less vigilant, Crooks

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<v Speaker 1>may have shot Biden and Remer may have killed Nixon.

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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't seem like it really mattered to either of

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<v Speaker 1>them who they shot, as long as they shot a

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<v Speaker 1>guy running for president. One of the funny things about

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<v Speaker 1>history is realizing we've always been what we are now.

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<v Speaker 1>There's truly nothing new under the sun. Within hours of

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<v Speaker 1>the attempt on George Wallace's life, before there was any

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<v Speaker 1>clear information at all, Nixon was demanding that the White

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<v Speaker 1>House Deputy Director of Communications, Kenneth Clawson, put out a

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<v Speaker 1>statement that the shooter was a supporter of George McGovern,

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<v Speaker 1>the front runner and the Democratic primary Nixon would go

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<v Speaker 1>on to defeat McGovern later that year. Just say we've

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<v Speaker 1>got unmistakable evidence, Dixon said, Of course, they didn't have

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<v Speaker 1>any evidence of any kind, and when they did get

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<v Speaker 1>that evidence, it certainly didn't show the shooter working on

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<v Speaker 1>the McGovern campaign. But that was the rumor Nixon hoped

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<v Speaker 1>to spread in those early hours. Rumors ball and put

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<v Speaker 1>it on the right and right away you can get there.

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<v Speaker 1>You put it to must get out before they fit

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<v Speaker 1>them on the right way. It's a bit fuzzy, but

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<v Speaker 1>you can hear Nixon saying that they need to act

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<v Speaker 1>quickly to pin this on the left. Rumors are going

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<v Speaker 1>to spread, and they want theirs to spread first and fastest.

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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't matter what's true, It matters what people believe. Unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 1>we don't have thousands of hours of secret tape recordings

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<v Speaker 1>inside the offices of today's Republicans, but we did see

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<v Speaker 1>something similar in the immediate aftermath of the Trump shooting.

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<v Speaker 1>He's a Biden voter, he's a Democrat, he's a radical leftist,

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<v Speaker 1>he's Antifa. We can already tell. We just know it's obvious.

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<v Speaker 1>We have proof. The fact that there was no proof

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<v Speaker 1>of anything on day one, it doesn't matter. It matters

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<v Speaker 1>even less that no proof ever materialized. You just have

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<v Speaker 1>to get the room or out first. You have to

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<v Speaker 1>make an impression while the cement is wet and sometime

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<v Speaker 1>little stick. One thing that is not on the Nixon tapes, though,

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<v Speaker 1>is a conversation that allegedly occurred that afternoon in May

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<v Speaker 1>of nineteen seventy two that was reported by Seymour Hirsch

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<v Speaker 1>twenty years later in nineteen ninety two. Despite a Supreme

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<v Speaker 1>Court ruling in the seventies the tapes belonged to the

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<v Speaker 1>National Archives, the full volume of the Nixon tapes were

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<v Speaker 1>not made available to the public until two thousand and seven. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>whatever you think of his later career, Seymour Hirsh wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>a making stuff up kind of guy back then, So

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think he's fabricating any part of this story.

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<v Speaker 1>He's still alive and has a sub stack at eighty

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<v Speaker 1>seven years old, so I don't want any beef with Seymour.

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<v Speaker 1>He said a decade's long career as an investigative journalist

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<v Speaker 1>and a Pulitzer for exposing the cover up of the

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<v Speaker 1>Malai massacre. So I don't think he's patting the truth here.

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<v Speaker 1>But in his nineteen ninety two New Yorker piece Nixon's

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<v Speaker 1>last cover up, the Tapes he wants the Archives to suppress,

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<v Speaker 1>Hirsch wrote that the unreleased tapes from the afternoon of

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<v Speaker 1>the Wallace shooting contained recordings of Nixon directing I Howard Hunt,

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<v Speaker 1>the retired CIA officer who head at Nixon's White House,

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<v Speaker 1>plumbers to break into Arthur Bremer's apartment before the FBI

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<v Speaker 1>could search it and plant McGovern campaign literature. Hunt's own

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<v Speaker 1>autobiography admits only that at Nixon's direction, Nixon advisor Charles

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<v Speaker 1>Coulson did ask Hunt to quote take a look around

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<v Speaker 1>Bremer's apartment. Given that this is all taking place just

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<v Speaker 1>a month before Hunt did in fact play a key

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<v Speaker 1>role in the Watergate break in, this isn't exactly unbelievable.

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<v Speaker 1>I can absolutely believe that Richard Nixon asked E. Howard

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<v Speaker 1>Hunt to break into a building for some nefarious purpose,

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<v Speaker 1>because we know that happened at least once. And one

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<v Speaker 1>thing the varying accounts do seem to agree on is

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<v Speaker 1>that Hunt was unable to complete the assignment because the

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<v Speaker 1>FBI had already sealed off Bremmer's apartment in Milwaukee before

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<v Speaker 1>he got there. Hirsh's article in nineteen ninety two claims

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<v Speaker 1>that the tapes contain recordings of Coulson breaking the news

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<v Speaker 1>to Nixon that Hunt had arrived too late and the

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<v Speaker 1>apartment was already under police guard, and that the recording

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<v Speaker 1>captures Nixon berating Coulson for not doing more to slow

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<v Speaker 1>down the FBI. Again, this is all very believable if

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<v Speaker 1>you have even a passing knowledge of Richard Nixon, and

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<v Speaker 1>Colson himself was the one who related this account to

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<v Speaker 1>Seymour Hirsh in nineteen ninety two. The problem is we

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<v Speaker 1>have something now that Seymour Hirsch didn't have in nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>ninety two, and that's those tapes. Fifteen years after Hirsch's

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<v Speaker 1>article was published, researchers scoured the newly released recordings for

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<v Speaker 1>proof of this version of events, and it isn't there.

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<v Speaker 1>It's entirely possible that Coulson was recalling conversations that did

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<v Speaker 1>occur but outside the presence of the tape machine, or

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<v Speaker 1>maybe he's misremembering how much of this was actually spoken

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<v Speaker 1>aloud and what was simply understood. It's not out of

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<v Speaker 1>the realm of possibility that Coulson is recalling something Nixon

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<v Speaker 1>definitely wanted. It's just not on the tapes. Absence of

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<v Speaker 1>proof isn't proof of absence. But we do have a

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<v Speaker 1>pretty complete record of Nixon's conversations on the afternoon of

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<v Speaker 1>May fifteenth, nineteen seventy two. There are famously eighteen missing

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<v Speaker 1>minutes in those tapes, but those are from a different

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<v Speaker 1>afternoon in nineteen seventy two. On May fifteenth, though, Nixon

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<v Speaker 1>had just gotten out of a budget meeting around four pm,

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<v Speaker 1>shortly after the shooting, and that's when he first got

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<v Speaker 1>the news. His first phone call was to his own wife,

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<v Speaker 1>Pat and then he called George Wallace's wife, Cornelia. He

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<v Speaker 1>then asked Secretary of the Treasury John Connolly to call

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<v Speaker 1>Ted Kennedy to offer him full Secret Service protection. And

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<v Speaker 1>presumably this is because he believed Ted Kennedy would be

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<v Speaker 1>McGovern's vice presidential pick. But I guess if people are

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<v Speaker 1>getting assassinated, you need to account for all your Kennedy's.

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<v Speaker 1>It's actually kind of wild to dig into those tapes

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<v Speaker 1>and see where Everwend's heads were on that afternoon in

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<v Speaker 1>the Oval office. A recording from around seven pm, so

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<v Speaker 1>three hours after the shooting, captures speculation that the shooting

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<v Speaker 1>may have been a false flag by Wallace's own people,

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<v Speaker 1>but the idea was quickly dismissed. He wouldn't have had

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<v Speaker 1>his own people shoot him in the stomach. They would

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<v Speaker 1>have gone for something less likely to end up killing him,

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<v Speaker 1>like shooting him in the foot, which is a conversation

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<v Speaker 1>we all heard immediately after the Trump shooting. Isn't it right?

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe this is a stunt, but why would he have

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<v Speaker 1>them shoot at his head? That's so risky. And this

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<v Speaker 1>recording to captures top Nix and aids hoping that whoever

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<v Speaker 1>did this was a left wing nut and not a

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<v Speaker 1>right wing nut. It could be one of his own

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<v Speaker 1>people too. They wouldn't shoot that man, and they would

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<v Speaker 1>have shot him in the foot or something. I haven't

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<v Speaker 1>it wouldn't be It is not one of those other

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<v Speaker 1>people shoot him in the stot did to kill him? Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I think the guy. The guy has to be a

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<v Speaker 1>nut of some kind. I just don't be the left

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<v Speaker 1>wing nut, not a right wing So Nixon tried to

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<v Speaker 1>put a thumb on the scale after the fact, but

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<v Speaker 1>the exact nature of his meddling will forever be up

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<v Speaker 1>for debate, and the Nixon tapes aren't the only unique

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<v Speaker 1>primary source for what went down that day. In the

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<v Speaker 1>early months of nineteen seventy two, as Arthur Bremmer prepared

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<v Speaker 1>to shoot Nixon, gave up on shooting Nixon and ultimately

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<v Speaker 1>shot George Wallace, he kept a diary, and in nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>seventy three, Harper's Magazine Press published that diary. I couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>find a physical copy of that original bound book for

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<v Speaker 1>less than a small fortune, but I did find an

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<v Speaker 1>original scan of Bremer's diary that was produced in court

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<v Speaker 1>as evidence. The diary is a strange and fascinating document.

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<v Speaker 1>Only the latter half was published. He'd thrown away the

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<v Speaker 1>first hundred and forty eight pages, a fact he notes

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<v Speaker 1>on the first page of the version that we do have.

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<v Speaker 1>In nineteen eighty a construction worker named Sherman Griffin found

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<v Speaker 1>the first one hundred and forty eight pages wrapped in

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<v Speaker 1>plastic inside of a backpack under the twenty seventh Street

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<v Speaker 1>Viaduct in Milwaukee from prison. Arthur Bremmer actually tried to

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<v Speaker 1>sue Griffin for ownership of the document, saying it would

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<v Speaker 1>only be used to embarrass him, but in nineteen eighty

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<v Speaker 1>one a court ruled that Griffin could keep it. Find

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<v Speaker 1>your skeepers. But the portion that we do have, that

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<v Speaker 1>latter half of the diary is a lot of things.

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<v Speaker 1>It's full of spelling errors and disorganized thinking, and sexual

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<v Speaker 1>fantasy and mundane rambling stream of consciousness of a guy

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<v Speaker 1>going about his day to day life as he tries

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<v Speaker 1>to figure out how to assassinate the president. A few

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<v Speaker 1>months after it was published, The New York Review published

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<v Speaker 1>an essay by A. Gourvadal speculating that Brehmer hadn't written

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<v Speaker 1>the diary at all. As a literary critic, it was

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<v Speaker 1>Vidal's professional opinion that Brehmer could not have written such

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<v Speaker 1>a document, though it was riddled with spelling errors. Vidal

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<v Speaker 1>writes that they come and go, almost as though the

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<v Speaker 1>writer is remembering, as he writes that he's supposed to

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<v Speaker 1>be a twenty one year old bus boy of mediocre intelligence.

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<v Speaker 1>He also doubts Brehmer was well read enough to make

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<v Speaker 1>references to Soljhanitson's Day in the Life of von Denisovitch

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<v Speaker 1>or quip A he crossed the Great Lakes, call me Ishmael.

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<v Speaker 1>Both Denisovich and Ishmael are misspelled, but that could be intentional, right, No,

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<v Speaker 1>Gore Vidal believes, or perhaps would like you to think

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<v Speaker 1>he believes. You know, it's hard to say that the

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<v Speaker 1>diary was falsified in its entirety by E. Howard Hunt

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<v Speaker 1>Nixon Spook. Hunt was a prolific writer, giving Thedal a

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<v Speaker 1>large volume of material for comparison, and he claims there

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<v Speaker 1>are similarities in the writing styles. Again, just as Hirsch's

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<v Speaker 1>claims about the Secret Tapes in nineteen ninety two were

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<v Speaker 1>called into question when we got the tapes in two

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<v Speaker 1>thousand and seven, Vidal's essay was published in nineteen seventy three,

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<v Speaker 1>seven years before the first half of the diary was found.

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<v Speaker 1>So even if you're inclined to believe Hunt was crafty

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<v Speaker 1>enough to construct this elaborate plot with a fake diary

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<v Speaker 1>and a patsy shooter, it's a real stretch to think

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<v Speaker 1>that he would write one hundred and forty eight pages,

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<v Speaker 1>wrap them in plastic, hide them in a backpack, and

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<v Speaker 1>tuck that backpack into a nook in a bridge in

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<v Speaker 1>Milwaukee to be discovered by a construction worker years later.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's also possible that Gorvittal was just doing a

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<v Speaker 1>bit that were not clever enough to understand. But the

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<v Speaker 1>legacy of that diary lives on in some surprising ways.

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<v Speaker 1>In those early confusing days after the Trump shooting, before

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<v Speaker 1>we all forgot what ever happened, I did see a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people point out that the last time at

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<v Speaker 1>president took a bullet, it wasn't over politics at all.

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<v Speaker 1>John Hinckley Junior shot Reagan to impress Jody Foster. Remember,

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<v Speaker 1>And Okay, here's where I have to admit something kind

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<v Speaker 1>of embarrassing. I've always just accepted that statement at face value.

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<v Speaker 1>It makes no sense at all. But he wasn't acting rationally,

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<v Speaker 1>so it's not something that seemed like I needed to

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<v Speaker 1>make sense of. He shot Ronald Reagan to impress Jody Foster.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess he just thought she'd find that impressive. No

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<v Speaker 1>need to interrogate that further. A lot of women might

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<v Speaker 1>find it impressive if he shot Ronald Reagan, so there's

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<v Speaker 1>not a lot of follow up to do on that.

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<v Speaker 1>The thing is, i'd never seen the movie Taxi Driver.

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<v Speaker 1>I truly never pieced together that he thought shooting the

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<v Speaker 1>president would impress Jody Foster because she had starred as

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<v Speaker 1>a child sex worker in the movie Taxi Driver, in

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<v Speaker 1>which the protagonist Travis Bickle plans to shoot a presidential

0:17:25.840 --> 0:17:30.320
<v Speaker 1>candidate named Charles Palatine. Hinkley shot Reagan to impress Jody

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<v Speaker 1>Foster makes a lot more sense with that added cultural context,

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<v Speaker 1>And I fear I may have been the last person

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<v Speaker 1>in America to realize that. So maybe everybody else already

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<v Speaker 1>knows this part too. Taxi Driver owes a lot to

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<v Speaker 1>Arthur Bremer, the guy who shot George Wallace. Screenwriter Paul

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<v Speaker 1>Schrader has always denied basing any part of the movie

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<v Speaker 1>on Bremer's diary. In a nineteen seventy six interview, Schrader

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<v Speaker 1>says he was inspired by the shooting itself, but that

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<v Speaker 1>the script was actually finished before the diaries were published,

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<v Speaker 1>telling Richard Thompson for a film comment, I want to

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<v Speaker 1>emphasize that the script was written before any of the

0:18:27.520 --> 0:18:30.760
<v Speaker 1>diary was published. After I read the diary, I was

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<v Speaker 1>very tempted to take some of the good stuff from

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<v Speaker 1>it and add it to taxi Driver, but I decided

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<v Speaker 1>not to because of legal ramifications. Bremmer is sitting there

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<v Speaker 1>in jail with nothing better to do than sue us,

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<v Speaker 1>which is why I made certain the script was registered

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<v Speaker 1>before the diary came out, and that nothing was changed

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<v Speaker 1>after the diary's publication. And it's actually kind of prescient

0:18:52.440 --> 0:18:54.680
<v Speaker 1>of him, come to think of it. He's saying in

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen seventy six that Brehmer could file some kind of

0:18:57.200 --> 0:19:01.159
<v Speaker 1>nuisance lawsuit from prison, and this is years before he

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<v Speaker 1>tried to get half a million dollars and his diary

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<v Speaker 1>back from that construction worker. And look, I'm obviously not

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<v Speaker 1>a film buff. Like I said, I only recently saw

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<v Speaker 1>a taxi driver for the first time, so I won't

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<v Speaker 1>say Paul Schrader isn't telling the truth. And I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe if you're a film buff, you'd say there's a

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<v Speaker 1>difference between changing the script and changing the screenplay. Those

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<v Speaker 1>are kind of different things, right, I guess that's true.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, because there are some scenes in Taxi

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<v Speaker 1>Driver that, unless Scarcese and Trader had some kind of

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<v Speaker 1>deep psychic connection to whatever forces in the universe motivated

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<v Speaker 1>Arthur Bremmer, they absolutely came from the Diary. You can't

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<v Speaker 1>tell me if they don't come from the diary, because

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<v Speaker 1>when I sat down to watch the movie, I had

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<v Speaker 1>just finished reading the Diary. So when I saw the

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<v Speaker 1>scene where Travis Bickle, the titular taxi driver, pulls up

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<v Speaker 1>outside of a building with his fair Bartin Scorsese himself

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<v Speaker 1>in the back seat, I did that, Leonardo DiCaprio pointing

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<v Speaker 1>me at my TV when the camera panned to the

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<v Speaker 1>woman in the window and she's smoking a cigarette, partially

0:20:06.520 --> 0:20:10.880
<v Speaker 1>obscured by the gauzy curtains, And that's a rather specific

0:20:11.040 --> 0:20:15.399
<v Speaker 1>visual image. And just a few pages into Bremer's diary,

0:20:15.440 --> 0:20:19.679
<v Speaker 1>he describes a very similar scene before he flew back

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<v Speaker 1>to Milwaukee to try across the border into Canada to

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<v Speaker 1>shoot Richard Nixon at an event in Ottawa. He wrote

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<v Speaker 1>this in his diary, My last night at the Howard

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<v Speaker 1>Johnson's in the Jamaica Area, New York City. I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>sleep much. A beautiful naked lady across the parking lot

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<v Speaker 1>of the next motel out by her window Florida ceiling,

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<v Speaker 1>smoking cigarettes, and I had to watch her. Her table

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<v Speaker 1>room light was on, and a thin veil of curtain

0:20:45.240 --> 0:20:47.479
<v Speaker 1>allowed me to watch as she passionately kissed a man

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<v Speaker 1>who wore clothes. I never saw them in each other's

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<v Speaker 1>arms more than a minute at a time. They must

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<v Speaker 1>have been fighting through binoculars. I saw them gesture like

0:20:56.480 --> 0:21:02.280
<v Speaker 1>Italians and open their mouths very wide, very often. So

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<v Speaker 1>maybe Schrader did finish the script before he read the diary,

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<v Speaker 1>but the diary absolutely influenced the way the film was shot.

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<v Speaker 1>According to Andrew Rausch's book on the Films of Martin Scorsese,

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<v Speaker 1>Robert de Niro prepared for the role by getting a

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<v Speaker 1>New York taxi license and driving around the city listening

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<v Speaker 1>to a cassette tape of Bremer's diary. The diary is

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<v Speaker 1>genuinely odd. Normally, I'm firmly in the camp of please

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<v Speaker 1>do not read or recommend that others read the manifesto

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<v Speaker 1>left behind by a shooter. But I really don't think

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<v Speaker 1>anyone will read Arthur Bremer's diary about leaving a nude

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<v Speaker 1>massage parlor frustrated that he's still a virgin, and feel

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<v Speaker 1>inspired by it. But I do think it's a fascinating document.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I learned more about what's inside the mind

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<v Speaker 1>of a nihilist aspiring shooter from Bremer's diary than I've

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<v Speaker 1>learned from any self indulgent little manifesto left by a

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<v Speaker 1>mass shooter. After failing to get his shot at Nixon

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<v Speaker 1>at the appearance in Ottawa in April, he wrote, I

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<v Speaker 1>just need a little opening in a second of time.

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<v Speaker 1>Nothing has happened for so long three months. The last

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<v Speaker 1>person I held a conversation with in three months was

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<v Speaker 1>a near naked girl rubbing my erect penis, and she

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't let me put it through her failures. A few

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<v Speaker 1>pages later, he writes that he thought about getting really drunk,

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<v Speaker 1>but quote decided against it. Just wanted to pick a

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<v Speaker 1>fight with a bartender somewhere someone and get arrested, and

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<v Speaker 1>then where am I? I got something to do something

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<v Speaker 1>big before I ever get arrested again. He writes that

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<v Speaker 1>he's tired of waiting. He wants to be a madman

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<v Speaker 1>who kills, and then abruptly transitions to saying he quote

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<v Speaker 1>goes crazy when he hears Johnny Cash's new single, quoting

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<v Speaker 1>the lyrics I shot you with my thirty eight and

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<v Speaker 1>now I'm doing time, before noting that a baseball game

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<v Speaker 1>was canceled due to the rain. Honestly, the document it

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<v Speaker 1>reminds me of most is a diary kept by Franklin Seacreast.

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<v Speaker 1>I was a young man who set a synagogue on

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<v Speaker 1>fire in Austin in twenty twenty one. Seacrest's diary is

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<v Speaker 1>the similar sort of strange stream of consciousness, accounting of

0:23:14.920 --> 0:23:19.000
<v Speaker 1>his frustrations with women, his daily activities interspersed with these

0:23:19.040 --> 0:23:23.520
<v Speaker 1>outbursts of violent desire. After taking two weeks away from

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<v Speaker 1>his diary to deal with the tragedy of failing to

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<v Speaker 1>kill Richard Nixon, Rehmer went to see Clockwork Orange. As

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<v Speaker 1>he watched the movie, he decided he would kill George

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<v Speaker 1>Wallace instead, though he lamented that this was a second

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<v Speaker 1>rate target, writing, I won't even rate a TV interruption

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<v Speaker 1>in Russia or Europe. When the news breaks, they never

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<v Speaker 1>heard of Wallace. If something big and nom flares up,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll end up at the bottom of the first page.

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<v Speaker 1>In America, the editors will say Wallace dead. Who cares?

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<v Speaker 1>He won't get more than three minutes on network TV news.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't expect anybody to get a big, throbbing erection

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<v Speaker 1>from the news. You know, a storm in some country

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<v Speaker 1>we never heard of, kills ten thousand people, big deal.

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<v Speaker 1>Past the beer and what's on TV tonight. I hope

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<v Speaker 1>my death makes more sense than my life. Days before

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<v Speaker 1>he finally took the shot, he wrote yesterday, I even

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<v Speaker 1>considered mc govern as a target. If I go to

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<v Speaker 1>prison as an assassin, solitary forever, guards in my cell,

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<v Speaker 1>et cetera, or get killed or suicided, what difference to me?

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<v Speaker 1>Ask me why I did it, and I'd say I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, or nothing else to do, or why not,

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<v Speaker 1>or I have to kill somebody. It bothers me that

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<v Speaker 1>they are about thirty guys in prison now who threatened

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<v Speaker 1>the president and we never heard a thing about him

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<v Speaker 1>except that they're in prison. Maybe what they need is organization.

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<v Speaker 1>Make the first lady a widow incorporated, chicken in every

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<v Speaker 1>pot and bullet in every head incorporated. They'll hold a

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<v Speaker 1>national convention every year to pick the executioner. A winner

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<v Speaker 1>will be chosen from the best entry in forty thousand

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<v Speaker 1>words or less, preferably less upon the theme how to

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<v Speaker 1>do a bang up job of getting people to notice you?

0:25:04.880 --> 0:25:11.879
<v Speaker 1>Or get it off your chest. Make your problems everybody's.

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<v Speaker 1>On May thirteenth, two days before the shooting, Bremer attended

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<v Speaker 1>a Wallace rally in Kalamazoo, Michigan. There are photographs of

0:25:19.520 --> 0:25:21.879
<v Speaker 1>Bremer at the rally that day, and he even spoke

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<v Speaker 1>to a police officer who responded to a call about

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<v Speaker 1>a suspicious vehicle parked near the venue. Bremer told the

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<v Speaker 1>officer he just wanted to be early to get a

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<v Speaker 1>good spot at the rally and complied when asked to

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<v Speaker 1>move his car. His loaded thirty eight was in his

0:25:35.359 --> 0:25:38.520
<v Speaker 1>jacket pocket. He writes in his diary that he could

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<v Speaker 1>have taken his shot that day, but at the last minute,

0:25:41.280 --> 0:25:44.159
<v Speaker 1>two teenage girls got between him and his target, and

0:25:44.240 --> 0:25:46.440
<v Speaker 1>he thought they'd be disfigured or blinded. If he fired

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<v Speaker 1>through the glass they were pressed up against, writing, I

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<v Speaker 1>let Wallace go only to spare these two stupid, innocent,

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<v Speaker 1>delighted kids. His final entry, the night before the shooting

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<v Speaker 1>ends with got a signed from campaign headquarters here to

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<v Speaker 1>shield the gun. Is there anything else to say? My

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<v Speaker 1>cry upon firing will be a penny for your thoughts.

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<v Speaker 1>On May fifteenth, nineteen seventy two, Arthur Bremmer was one

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<v Speaker 1>of about a thousand people who showed up to hear

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<v Speaker 1>George Wallace speak at a shopping center in Laurel, Maryland

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<v Speaker 1>around four p m. Just as Wallace finished speaking, Bremer

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<v Speaker 1>pushed his way through the crowd, hoping to shake Wallis's hand,

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<v Speaker 1>and unloaded his thirty eight. He struck George Wallace four

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<v Speaker 1>times and wounded three others, a state trooper, a campaign volunteer,

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<v Speaker 1>and a Secret Service agent. He forgot to shout anything

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<v Speaker 1>at all as he did it. He was convicted and

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<v Speaker 1>sentenced to sixty three years, later reduced to fifty three

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<v Speaker 1>years on appeal. In nineteen ninety five, George Wallace wrote

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<v Speaker 1>to Bremer in prison, telling him that he forgave him

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<v Speaker 1>for the shooting and hoping they could correspond a bit

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<v Speaker 1>to get to know one another, responded, and George Wallace

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<v Speaker 1>died in nineteen ninety eight. Arthur Bremmer was denied parole

0:27:06.080 --> 0:27:08.720
<v Speaker 1>in nineteen ninety six after arguing at his hearing that

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<v Speaker 1>quote shooting segregationist dinosaurs isn't as bad as harming mainstream politicians,

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<v Speaker 1>but he was eventually paroled in two thousand and seven

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<v Speaker 1>after serving thirty five years. For the last eighteen years,

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<v Speaker 1>Arthur Bremer has lived in Maryland under the conditions of

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<v Speaker 1>his supervised release. He's been on electronic monitoring, he has

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<v Speaker 1>to submit to mental evaluations, and he's been required to

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<v Speaker 1>stay away from all elected officials and candidates for office.

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<v Speaker 1>His supervision actually ends this month, on May fifteenth, twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty five, the fifty third anniversary of the shooting. He'll

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<v Speaker 1>be seventy five years old this year, and he's been

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<v Speaker 1>a model parolee as far as I can tell, So

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<v Speaker 1>I doubt he'll be getting up to anything interesting once

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<v Speaker 1>he's legally allowed to leave the state of Maryland. So

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<v Speaker 1>I guess he shot George Wallace for no reason at all.

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<v Speaker 1>And Robert de Niro's study of the diary he left

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<v Speaker 1>behind inspired the performance that made Hinckley shoot Reagan. There's

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<v Speaker 1>nothing hard to believe at all about the idea that

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<v Speaker 1>Thomas Crooks wanted to shoot a president just to be remembered.

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<v Speaker 1>Is anyone at all? Wee Little Guys in a production

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<v Speaker 1>of Cool Zone Media and iHeartRadio. It's researched, written and

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<v Speaker 1>recorded by me Polly Coner. Our executive producers are Sophie

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<v Speaker 1>Lettterman and Robert Evans. The show is edited by the

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<v Speaker 1>wildly talented Rory Gagan. The theme music was composed by

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<v Speaker 1>Brad Dickert. You can email me at Weird Little Guys

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<v Speaker 1>podcast at gmail dot com. I will definitely read it,

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<v Speaker 1>but I probably won't answer it. It's nothing personal. You

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<v Speaker 1>can exchange conspiracy theories about the show with other listeners

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<v Speaker 1>on the Weird Little Guy subpreddit. Just don't post anything

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<v Speaker 1>that's going to make you one of my Weird Little Guys.