1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:04,960 Speaker 1: You know your house smells, don't get mad. Don't get mad. 2 00:00:05,040 --> 00:00:06,840 Speaker 1: My house smells too. I'm not I'm not indicting you. 3 00:00:06,920 --> 00:00:09,520 Speaker 1: I'm sure you keep a clean home, but just time 4 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:13,840 Speaker 1: means you're going to acquire smells. Whether those are cooking 5 00:00:13,920 --> 00:00:17,000 Speaker 1: smells that get in your paint, your carpet, maybe their 6 00:00:17,079 --> 00:00:20,600 Speaker 1: animals smells. Maybe you're a smoker, or someone else was 7 00:00:20,680 --> 00:00:25,640 Speaker 1: just living create smells. I didn't realize that my home 8 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:28,840 Speaker 1: had a smell to it until I got my first 9 00:00:29,080 --> 00:00:32,800 Speaker 1: Eden Pure Thunderstorm, the greatest air purifier I've ever owned 10 00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:35,640 Speaker 1: in my life. This thing. I had it plugged in 11 00:00:35,680 --> 00:00:37,559 Speaker 1: for two hours. I came back in the room and 12 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:42,200 Speaker 1: my air smells so clean. I now owned three of them. 13 00:00:42,360 --> 00:00:45,560 Speaker 1: I'm not making that up. This thing has absolutely changed 14 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:47,800 Speaker 1: me on top of what it's done from my allergies. 15 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:51,520 Speaker 1: Go get one, get two, you like me, and get three. 16 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:55,000 Speaker 1: Go to Eden Pure deals dot com. Make sure you 17 00:00:55,200 --> 00:00:58,400 Speaker 1: use the promo code Jesse that gets you ten bucks 18 00:00:58,400 --> 00:01:01,440 Speaker 1: off and free shipping Eden here deals dot com promo 19 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:26,760 Speaker 1: code Jesse. This is a Jesse Kelly show. It isn't 20 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:31,319 Speaker 1: askad doctor Jesse Friday. Gosh, we're gonna have so much 21 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:37,119 Speaker 1: stupid amounts of fun. Today. I will tell you this 22 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:43,200 Speaker 1: is today for me, my last refuge. Most people you 23 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 1: probably are staring at the clock, dying to get off 24 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 1: work on a Friday. Go snatch up your your woman 25 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 1: or your man. Go out on a Friday and I 26 00:01:55,880 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 1: get some text mex Depending on where you live, down 27 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 1: to Margarita. Have a good time, celebrate not being at work. 28 00:02:04,360 --> 00:02:09,639 Speaker 1: That is what you're going to do today. Me, I'm 29 00:02:09,760 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 1: essentially well. I'm landing on the beaches of Normandy when 30 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 1: I get off of work today. My in laws will 31 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 1: be in town, all right anyway eight seven seven three 32 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:27,239 Speaker 1: seven seven four three seven three Jesse at Jesse Kelly 33 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:30,120 Speaker 1: show dot com. I honestly don't know what I'm looking 34 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:38,119 Speaker 1: forward to more these absurd, controversial, heavy questions. They run 35 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 1: the gamut today. I seriously, I have questions today about 36 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 1: George Floyd Square preferred chicken wings. I have an animal fight. 37 00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 1: I have what I want the States to do as 38 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:55,080 Speaker 1: far as standing up to the federal government. Somebody is 39 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:58,800 Speaker 1: at work and it's a woke workplace and they're miserable. 40 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 1: All right, it's the national divorce. What do I think 41 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:04,640 Speaker 1: is going to prompt it. I mean, these are the 42 00:03:04,720 --> 00:03:09,040 Speaker 1: questions I have today. These are the question Oh, it 43 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:11,960 Speaker 1: gets heavier, believe I have a I have a dime 44 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:16,400 Speaker 1: in my email dying to date a good dude and 45 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 1: can't find one. And I actually have a solution for you, 46 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:22,760 Speaker 1: because I know you're not the only dime out there 47 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:26,520 Speaker 1: hunting for a man. I'll tell you specifically where to 48 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:29,840 Speaker 1: find one today. It's someplace you haven't heard of or 49 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:33,519 Speaker 1: haven't thought about, but it will work for you. All 50 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:36,080 Speaker 1: that is coming up today on the Jesse Kelly Show. 51 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 1: I don't know if we're gonna have a guest. I 52 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 1: have a long email about black people. Guy wasn't sure 53 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:49,880 Speaker 1: if if I. The guy wasn't sure if I should 54 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 1: read it on the air. He was obviously very hesitant. 55 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 1: Didn't think I would. Of course, I'm going to read 56 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 1: it on the air. It's very controversial. He wants to know, 57 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 1: why is it, Why isn't it all their faults? So 58 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 1: on and so forth. I have an answer for you 59 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:07,240 Speaker 1: that's going to be different today. I'll answer that. You 60 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 1: know what that might be the first question I answer. 61 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 1: I'll answer that in about an hour from now. You're 62 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:15,440 Speaker 1: not gonna you're not gonna shame me or intimidate me 63 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 1: with controversy. Let's talk. We don't. I'll tell you this, 64 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:23,159 Speaker 1: as you probably figured out by now, I don't shy 65 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:27,680 Speaker 1: away from issues. And I definitely don't shy away from 66 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:30,600 Speaker 1: the issues everyone else shies away from. And I'll tell 67 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:32,680 Speaker 1: you why. I have two different, two different reasons for 68 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:36,920 Speaker 1: that before I get into history here. One, I detest 69 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:42,239 Speaker 1: the cowardice of the right and their unwillingness to talk 70 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:46,479 Speaker 1: about uncomfortable things. I think it's pathetic and weak, and 71 00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:50,280 Speaker 1: I won't take part in it. That's one. Two. You 72 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:55,839 Speaker 1: don't move the ball forward by avoiding tough conversations. What 73 00:04:55,960 --> 00:04:58,960 Speaker 1: have I told you before? Another asked doctor Jesse Fridays. 74 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:01,719 Speaker 1: When we get off of politics and we start talking 75 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:07,839 Speaker 1: about relationships and stuff like that, have a fight. I 76 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 1: see these, I see these young couples all I'll get 77 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:13,279 Speaker 1: emails all the time on ask doctor Jesse Friday. We 78 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:17,159 Speaker 1: just get along so well. I love him. We never fight. 79 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:22,040 Speaker 1: We've been together five months. Why do you never fight? 80 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:28,279 Speaker 1: Are you identical twins? Your difference? You had better start 81 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:32,560 Speaker 1: being willing to have a fight, have a tough conversation 82 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:37,039 Speaker 1: and work out those differences. You're not moving the ball forward. 83 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:39,600 Speaker 1: I love you, Oh, I love you, honey, smooth cheese. 84 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:42,120 Speaker 1: That that doesn't move the ball forward. You move the 85 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:44,240 Speaker 1: ball forward by having a good fighting getting it out 86 00:05:44,520 --> 00:05:49,720 Speaker 1: racial racial tensions. You don't overcome them by avoiding them. 87 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:52,520 Speaker 1: And that's what we do now. All the race talk 88 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:57,040 Speaker 1: goes one way in this country, and it's extremely unhealthy 89 00:05:57,160 --> 00:05:59,919 Speaker 1: for everybody. This is what white people should do. White 90 00:05:59,839 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 1: people have to do that. Why don't white people? White 91 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:05,800 Speaker 1: people suck white people? That? Okay, that's unhealthy. I'm fine 92 00:06:05,839 --> 00:06:08,000 Speaker 1: with having those talks. But we're going to have a 93 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 1: frank conversation today period. But first, let's talk about a gangster. 94 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:20,599 Speaker 1: Let's talk about a gangster on an ask doctor Jesse Friday. 95 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:24,479 Speaker 1: It's going to be well, it's going to be a 96 00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 1: doozy of a day. Have you ever heard of Whitey Boulger? 97 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:35,839 Speaker 1: Maybe maybe you haven't. I assumed everybody and their brother 98 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:38,720 Speaker 1: had heard of Whitey Boulger. Chris, didn't you assume everybody 99 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:40,599 Speaker 1: and their brother had heard of Whitty Boulger? And I 100 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:43,000 Speaker 1: started talking. I was with a few friends last night. 101 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:48,039 Speaker 1: Most of them had not heard of Whitey Boulger. Now, 102 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 1: maybe that's because I geek out on gangsters and mafia 103 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 1: guys and cartels like I assumed most guys do. Chris 104 00:06:55,839 --> 00:06:58,279 Speaker 1: is over here nodding his head. It's just something guys do. 105 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:01,520 Speaker 1: But I don't want to make that mistake that I 106 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:05,080 Speaker 1: lecture other people about making is just assuming everybody knows 107 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:09,560 Speaker 1: about somebody. So let's talk about an Irish gangster from Boston, 108 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 1: and more specifically, we're going to talk about how he 109 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 1: met his end. Now, the Irish, I know everybody considers 110 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 1: me Irish because my last name is Kelly, and obviously 111 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:26,560 Speaker 1: that's where my heritage is, because Kelly is as an 112 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 1: Irish name as it is. Full disclosure, though I don't 113 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:35,040 Speaker 1: consider myself to be Irish American at all. Now I'm 114 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:37,560 Speaker 1: not saying that's bad if you do consider yourself to 115 00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:40,320 Speaker 1: be that. I just was not raised in that way. 116 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:42,320 Speaker 1: We were never raised that we were Irish. We were 117 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 1: just raised that we were Americans. So whatever whatever those 118 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 1: ties are, and I'm sure they're there, I don't know 119 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 1: about them. Also, I do kind of want to visit 120 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 1: Ireland because every single person who's ever been there tells 121 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:56,080 Speaker 1: me it's freaking awesome, and the people are awesome, even 122 00:07:56,120 --> 00:07:57,960 Speaker 1: though I'm sure they have a lot of gingers up there. 123 00:07:58,320 --> 00:08:02,120 Speaker 1: What Chris, we can joke, it's fine. But the Irish 124 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:06,200 Speaker 1: when they immigrated to the United States of America were 125 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:10,040 Speaker 1: I don't want to say treated terribly. I mean they were. 126 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:17,160 Speaker 1: But understand, anytime there's mass immigration from one place, they 127 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:22,240 Speaker 1: are initially treated terribly. This is universal, and I don't 128 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:25,200 Speaker 1: like it that everybody pretends like it's just their special 129 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:28,240 Speaker 1: lot in life, that it's never happened before. Why do 130 00:08:28,360 --> 00:08:31,800 Speaker 1: we talk about history on this show specifically to drive 131 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:36,520 Speaker 1: home the point everything has happened before. The Irish when 132 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 1: they came here were treated just like the Italians and 133 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:44,319 Speaker 1: the Jews and everybody. Germans to everybody, you people are 134 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:49,680 Speaker 1: all coming here. One, you're taking our jobs. Two when 135 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:54,920 Speaker 1: you immigrate, oftentimes it's not the wealthy, well to do 136 00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:58,200 Speaker 1: people who are immigrating, it's the poorer. So that means 137 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:01,320 Speaker 1: you're going to inevitably have more crime that comes with it, 138 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:04,360 Speaker 1: which gives people a bad reputation right off the bat. 139 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:07,120 Speaker 1: So let's see, you're taking our jobs. Someone just got 140 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:11,439 Speaker 1: stabbed across town. Of course, there was an irishman. You 141 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 1: you're treated like an outcash. You've seen the signs before, 142 00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:17,000 Speaker 1: Irish need not apply and things like that, treated like 143 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:19,079 Speaker 1: garbage right when they got here. So I mean this 144 00:09:19,720 --> 00:09:21,840 Speaker 1: inevitably goes the same way every time. Like I said, 145 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:24,360 Speaker 1: at times, Jews, they all went through this. You get here, 146 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:28,200 Speaker 1: everyone treats you like crap. So you move into your 147 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:33,480 Speaker 1: own neighborhood around other Irish or Italians or Jews, or 148 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 1: you live in your own neighborhood surrounded by your people, 149 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:42,200 Speaker 1: and you become more insular for a time. This always 150 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:46,840 Speaker 1: takes time. Then eventually you will disperse out into society. 151 00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:49,240 Speaker 1: That's how it always works. You end up getting married 152 00:09:49,280 --> 00:09:52,000 Speaker 1: to her and moving here and getting hired by him, 153 00:09:52,040 --> 00:09:56,280 Speaker 1: and slowly but surely those communities break up and disperse 154 00:09:56,360 --> 00:09:59,200 Speaker 1: into society. Chris's people are everywhere now. They control the 155 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:06,720 Speaker 1: weather quick Chris, all right, that was no different in Boston. Boston, 156 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:11,920 Speaker 1: obviously we have obviously the great, great, great people of Boston. 157 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:15,400 Speaker 1: I know Boston people get a bad rap because they're 158 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:18,520 Speaker 1: I don't know if I wanted to say rude, they're 159 00:10:18,640 --> 00:10:22,240 Speaker 1: very direct direct. I love that. That's why I get 160 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 1: along with Boston people in New Jersey. People, that's just 161 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:28,760 Speaker 1: my speed. Let's talk about South Boston and the Irish 162 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:49,319 Speaker 1: and Whitey Boulger. And then you're asked, doctor Jesse questions 163 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:58,440 Speaker 1: missed out? Catch up, Jesse Kelly show dot com. Eden 164 00:10:58,520 --> 00:11:04,200 Speaker 1: Pure Thunderstorm took care of my allergies. And there's a 165 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:06,000 Speaker 1: ton of things I could tell you right now about 166 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:10,679 Speaker 1: the Eden Pure Thunderstorm. I could brag about how small 167 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:13,600 Speaker 1: it is, and that's not a small thing. Well, I guess, 168 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:15,439 Speaker 1: pardon the pun, I guess it is a small thing. 169 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:18,720 Speaker 1: But the air filters I have always had. You know 170 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:21,600 Speaker 1: what they look like. It's those towers. It has to 171 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:24,720 Speaker 1: become part of your room decor because they're so big. 172 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:28,120 Speaker 1: The Eden Pure Thunderstorm, it's just this compact little thing. 173 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:32,480 Speaker 1: It goes right into the wall outlet. But allergies drive 174 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:36,280 Speaker 1: me insane, but more than my nose. Although I get 175 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:38,680 Speaker 1: the runny nose and everyone else gets, it's my eyes. 176 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 1: They make my eyes. It's so bad. I can't stand it. 177 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:46,760 Speaker 1: The Eden Pure Thunderstorm, it took them away. I love 178 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:51,120 Speaker 1: this thing. Good at Eden pure deals dot com. That's 179 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:55,000 Speaker 1: Eden pure deals dot com used to code word Jesse 180 00:11:55,320 --> 00:12:16,960 Speaker 1: j E S S E for ten bucks off. It 181 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:21,280 Speaker 1: isn't asked Doctor Jesse, Friday eight seven seven three seven 182 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:25,040 Speaker 1: seven four three seven three. I can't wait to answer 183 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:28,640 Speaker 1: this question about the person stuck in the work woke place, 184 00:12:29,679 --> 00:12:33,360 Speaker 1: about the twenty eight year old dime hunting for a man. 185 00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:36,360 Speaker 1: Where is she going to find one? I will tell 186 00:12:36,440 --> 00:12:40,120 Speaker 1: you exactly where to find one. All that is coming 187 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:43,400 Speaker 1: up on the Asked Doctor Jesse version of the Jesse 188 00:12:43,520 --> 00:12:47,120 Speaker 1: Kelly Show on Friday. But we're talking about Whitey Bulger today. 189 00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:48,960 Speaker 1: Let me try to get through this thing here as 190 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:54,400 Speaker 1: best I can. The Irish, obviously they immigrate here, they 191 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:59,200 Speaker 1: keep to themselves. Boston is a big place for them, 192 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:05,960 Speaker 1: specific be South Boston, and like most immigrant communities, insular 193 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:11,640 Speaker 1: and because they're poor, at least at first. This especially 194 00:13:11,679 --> 00:13:14,760 Speaker 1: applied to South Boston then and now, though South Boston 195 00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:20,280 Speaker 1: has very much changed today, rough violent crime is not 196 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:23,760 Speaker 1: unheard of. Now, I will say, when you think violent 197 00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:26,520 Speaker 1: crime in these communities, yes there were murders. I don't 198 00:13:26,520 --> 00:13:28,400 Speaker 1: want to act like, oh, nobody ever got killed. It 199 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:32,040 Speaker 1: was just a jolly old game of fisticups. Fisticups, no, no, 200 00:13:32,360 --> 00:13:35,360 Speaker 1: but it wasn't a murder every night, but there were 201 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:38,439 Speaker 1: fist fights on every corner. It was just a rough 202 00:13:38,600 --> 00:13:45,200 Speaker 1: way to grow up. Very insular people, poor, hard working. 203 00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:50,959 Speaker 1: So growing up, the Boulger family was a big family. 204 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:55,079 Speaker 1: Whitey Boulger, his name is James. I'm gonna call him 205 00:13:55,080 --> 00:13:57,840 Speaker 1: Whitey the whole time. Sets his nickname. But James Boulger 206 00:13:58,360 --> 00:14:04,000 Speaker 1: was kind of the rough one, the outcast in the family. 207 00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:06,480 Speaker 1: His brother Billy will get to that in a little while, 208 00:14:06,720 --> 00:14:10,200 Speaker 1: was wildly successful and ended up being a hugely powerful 209 00:14:10,240 --> 00:14:13,400 Speaker 1: politician that will come into play here shortly. It was 210 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:17,880 Speaker 1: almost like Whitey decided at a very very very early age, 211 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:21,560 Speaker 1: crime is just kind of what I'm gonna do. It 212 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:25,840 Speaker 1: was what he was good at. He was a violent kid, 213 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:32,080 Speaker 1: an excellent fighter by all accounts growing up, and immediately 214 00:14:32,120 --> 00:14:36,160 Speaker 1: he begins to immerse himself in the gangs in his neighborhood. 215 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:39,840 Speaker 1: There are youth gangs. Youth gangs are not just the 216 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:44,040 Speaker 1: thing of today. Understand that that in rough neighborhoods then 217 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:49,360 Speaker 1: now and forever, kids will start getting into gang life 218 00:14:49,440 --> 00:14:53,520 Speaker 1: at honestly nine, ten years old and younger. That's stunning 219 00:14:53,560 --> 00:14:55,960 Speaker 1: to me because I have two sons ten and twelve 220 00:14:56,320 --> 00:15:00,560 Speaker 1: and they're into legos. Well, other kids are the knives 221 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:04,760 Speaker 1: and stuff like that, because that's the environment they grow up, 222 00:15:04,760 --> 00:15:07,320 Speaker 1: and you are very much a product of your environment. 223 00:15:08,560 --> 00:15:12,040 Speaker 1: He is a rough kid. At one point in time, 224 00:15:13,400 --> 00:15:16,680 Speaker 1: he sees someone from his neighborhood getting picked on, and, 225 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:19,240 Speaker 1: like I said, insular, if you see one of your 226 00:15:19,280 --> 00:15:22,520 Speaker 1: friends getting picked on in a fight, you're in a fight. 227 00:15:22,600 --> 00:15:25,560 Speaker 1: That's how these people grow up. He runs over and 228 00:15:25,640 --> 00:15:28,240 Speaker 1: saves this neighborhood kid. You know, I don't give you 229 00:15:28,280 --> 00:15:32,240 Speaker 1: many names, right, I don't do that to you, John Connolly, 230 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:36,800 Speaker 1: Remember that name. The neighborhood kid's name was John Connolly. 231 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:39,960 Speaker 1: Put that one in your back pocket. We'll get back 232 00:15:39,960 --> 00:15:45,080 Speaker 1: to it a few minutes from now. Moving on, Whitey 233 00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:47,920 Speaker 1: begins to come on up in the criminal world, and 234 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:52,960 Speaker 1: in the criminal world he's progressing. He turns into a 235 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:56,160 Speaker 1: bank robber. And let's pause here for a moment, because 236 00:15:56,160 --> 00:16:00,280 Speaker 1: this applies to today, it applies to all of history. 237 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:03,320 Speaker 1: One of the uncomfortable things we don't like to talk about, 238 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:06,400 Speaker 1: because you and I believe in things like forgiveness and redemption. 239 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:11,160 Speaker 1: And that's that's a very American, a very Judeo Christian value. 240 00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:13,760 Speaker 1: That's something you know. Everybody's redeemable, you know, that kind 241 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:17,120 Speaker 1: of thing. So we don't like to talk about the 242 00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 1: ugly reality of things. And here's the ugly reality of it. 243 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:23,640 Speaker 1: If you talk to any big city cop. I talk 244 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:26,680 Speaker 1: to many of them, friends with many of them. The 245 00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:31,040 Speaker 1: ugly reality of it is this. If you get them 246 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:35,040 Speaker 1: in a private moment, they will tell you, Jesse, you 247 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:38,560 Speaker 1: see that twelve year old over there, we should lock 248 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:40,360 Speaker 1: him up right now for the rest of his life. 249 00:16:40,960 --> 00:16:43,480 Speaker 1: And I'll be all, wait, what, what is he a 250 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:45,280 Speaker 1: serial killer? What are you talking about? What do you 251 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:48,960 Speaker 1: mean we should lock him up? He's already shoplifted three 252 00:16:49,040 --> 00:16:52,720 Speaker 1: or four times, just got cop breaking into a car yesterday. 253 00:16:53,440 --> 00:16:56,520 Speaker 1: I'm all, okay, so what And they just look at 254 00:16:56,560 --> 00:17:00,880 Speaker 1: me like you don't understand. His path is set, His 255 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:05,320 Speaker 1: path is set. That kid will have killed somebody by 256 00:17:05,359 --> 00:17:07,119 Speaker 1: the time he's eighteen or nineteen, and he'll be in 257 00:17:07,160 --> 00:17:10,000 Speaker 1: the federal pit and you know what, And they'll tell you. 258 00:17:10,040 --> 00:17:11,800 Speaker 1: And these are always these grizzled better and guys who 259 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:16,080 Speaker 1: are like I'm right, virtually every time. This is how 260 00:17:16,119 --> 00:17:18,960 Speaker 1: it works. When people grow up in these environments. It 261 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:21,879 Speaker 1: always progresses, and I geek out on all this mob stuff, 262 00:17:21,920 --> 00:17:24,320 Speaker 1: you know, and cartel stuff and gang stuff, and they 263 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:27,320 Speaker 1: all have the same story. He started out in a 264 00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:30,040 Speaker 1: playful youth gang where they would steal an orange from 265 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:33,840 Speaker 1: the neighborhood neighborhood cart and then ten years later, oh, 266 00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:37,560 Speaker 1: he cuts someone's head off. It progresses that way. He 267 00:17:37,600 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 1: goes from this to shoplifting, to running numbers to maybe 268 00:17:40,359 --> 00:17:42,400 Speaker 1: robbing a little bit. Well, I want you to beat 269 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:44,520 Speaker 1: him up for me. Now I'd like you to stab him, Okay, 270 00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:49,040 Speaker 1: murder him. And that's how it goes every time. He's 271 00:17:49,080 --> 00:17:52,560 Speaker 1: a bank robber. Nineteen fifty seven, Whitey Boulder gets busted 272 00:17:53,359 --> 00:17:59,640 Speaker 1: sentenced to twenty years, so he's going away until he's aged. 273 00:18:01,520 --> 00:18:05,880 Speaker 1: He gets sent to Atlanta, and the prisoners in Atlanta, 274 00:18:05,960 --> 00:18:08,920 Speaker 1: of which Whitey was one of them, get asked to 275 00:18:09,080 --> 00:18:13,440 Speaker 1: volunteer for a program. If they take part in this program, 276 00:18:14,200 --> 00:18:18,240 Speaker 1: they are going to potentially be released early. Well that's 277 00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:21,439 Speaker 1: music to anybody's ears, especially a young man who's sitting 278 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:26,680 Speaker 1: there doing twenty He agrees. The name of that program 279 00:18:27,880 --> 00:18:34,040 Speaker 1: mk Ultra. That was the CIA mind control program where 280 00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:38,720 Speaker 1: they enlisted college students and prisoners sometimes against their will 281 00:18:39,040 --> 00:18:43,600 Speaker 1: and dose them with LSD, trying to figure out how 282 00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:46,880 Speaker 1: to manipulate somebody's mind, looking for true sor I'm looking 283 00:18:46,920 --> 00:18:50,040 Speaker 1: to see if brainwashing is real. Yes, that really happened. 284 00:18:50,040 --> 00:18:52,679 Speaker 1: This is a documented thing, and they did it to 285 00:18:52,720 --> 00:18:57,240 Speaker 1: Whitey Boulger, and there are people who say it's screwed 286 00:18:57,320 --> 00:18:59,399 Speaker 1: him up for the rest of his life. Now I 287 00:18:59,480 --> 00:19:04,280 Speaker 1: don't know. Apparently he was really feeling the effects of 288 00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:06,520 Speaker 1: these things when they gave it to him. Remember this 289 00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:10,320 Speaker 1: is the experimental era, and he's a violent prisoner. If 290 00:19:10,320 --> 00:19:13,200 Speaker 1: they're going to dose someone up a little too much 291 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:15,760 Speaker 1: and let the chips fall where they may, that's who 292 00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:19,639 Speaker 1: they're gonna do it too. White Boulder eventually gets caught 293 00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:23,359 Speaker 1: planning an escape, which is funny. He wasn't even caught 294 00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:26,920 Speaker 1: planning his own escape. He was caught helping other prisoners 295 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:29,840 Speaker 1: plan their escape, and he gets shipped off to a 296 00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:35,080 Speaker 1: place you've heard of before called Alcatrez. You can picture Alcatrez, 297 00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:38,000 Speaker 1: perhaps you've seen the movie The Rock, But just know 298 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:42,359 Speaker 1: this about Alcatrez. It's closed now, but back in the 299 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:45,920 Speaker 1: day it was made for the worst of the worst. 300 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:50,600 Speaker 1: And if you're a young up and coming criminal, trying 301 00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:54,720 Speaker 1: to make a name for yourself. It's a bit of 302 00:19:54,760 --> 00:19:57,600 Speaker 1: a feather in the cap. I mean, it sucks. You 303 00:19:57,640 --> 00:20:00,960 Speaker 1: don't want to be there. But once you get out, 304 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:04,760 Speaker 1: if you've been in Alcatraz, people know you've been around 305 00:20:05,359 --> 00:20:08,840 Speaker 1: the best of the best criminals. You probably know the most. 306 00:20:09,080 --> 00:20:11,920 Speaker 1: You're probably one of the toughest. It's not that it's 307 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:14,719 Speaker 1: it's like you. It's like you being bella victorian at 308 00:20:14,760 --> 00:20:19,360 Speaker 1: your college. You know. It's something like that, only for murders. Now, 309 00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:22,480 Speaker 1: at this point, the Italian mafia, remember we're talking the 310 00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:26,159 Speaker 1: nineteen fifties and sixties and seventies throughout most of this process. 311 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:28,600 Speaker 1: Less so in the seventies because they started going down. 312 00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:32,040 Speaker 1: But fifties and sixties especially is a big, big, big 313 00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:36,000 Speaker 1: time for the Italian mafia. They are all over the 314 00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:39,040 Speaker 1: United States of America, from La New York, New Orleans, 315 00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:43,680 Speaker 1: They're everywhere. Philadelphia, Buffalo, Florida, and the traffic Conte family 316 00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:45,879 Speaker 1: running Florida. This is they're all over the place, and 317 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:51,200 Speaker 1: they're all over Boston. They are at this point taking 318 00:20:51,320 --> 00:20:56,240 Speaker 1: over Boston. And organized crime simply works in this way, 319 00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:58,280 Speaker 1: and this is well, I shouldn't say simply, this is 320 00:20:58,280 --> 00:21:05,399 Speaker 1: probably an oversimplification. You the organized crime group, family, whatever 321 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:09,080 Speaker 1: you want to call it. You have a certain level 322 00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:13,320 Speaker 1: of expertise, a certain level of sophistication that the other 323 00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:17,959 Speaker 1: more ramshackle gangs in your area that you once simply 324 00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:22,840 Speaker 1: do not have. So you move in and you take control. 325 00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:25,480 Speaker 1: How do you do that? Well, we're gonna go over 326 00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:28,359 Speaker 1: that now, and then we're gonna get to our asked 327 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:32,040 Speaker 1: doctor Jesse questions national divorce. What's gonna prompt it? I'll 328 00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:57,600 Speaker 1: tell you ninety two one eight over one eleven, one 329 00:21:57,720 --> 00:22:00,560 Speaker 1: hundred eighty two over one hundred, and I had a 330 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:04,000 Speaker 1: heart attack and a cardiac arres and then a stroke. 331 00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:08,679 Speaker 1: Your blood pressure numbers could change your life. A lot 332 00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:14,040 Speaker 1: of people don't understand, including myself. I didn't now I 333 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:20,879 Speaker 1: do the impact of having a show. My memory is shot. 334 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:26,160 Speaker 1: When I woke up, I cann't speak. 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It is an Asked Doctor Jesse Friday. 343 00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:18,840 Speaker 1: Somebody wants me to answer a controversial question about black 344 00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:21,560 Speaker 1: people and how black people vote. Don't think you're gonna 345 00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:24,560 Speaker 1: intimidate me with that. Oh, I'm gonna answer it. Somebody 346 00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:27,600 Speaker 1: wants to know what can the States do to stand 347 00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:30,720 Speaker 1: up against the fens? How far should they go? And 348 00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:34,960 Speaker 1: someone wants to know Bears versus Lyons who would win? 349 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:37,640 Speaker 1: And I don't mean the football team. All that's coming 350 00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:42,600 Speaker 1: up today on An Asked Doctor Jesse Friday eight seven 351 00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:46,920 Speaker 1: seven three seven seven four three seven three Jesse at 352 00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:50,520 Speaker 1: Jesse Kelly show dot com. Let's get back to our story. First, 353 00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:55,480 Speaker 1: we're talking about Whitey Boulger. Whitey's in Alcatraz. The Italian 354 00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:59,720 Speaker 1: mafia is taking over an area, and all these organized 355 00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:03,119 Speaker 1: crime groups take over an area the same way. They 356 00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:06,760 Speaker 1: start to worm their way in, and then you start 357 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:11,880 Speaker 1: to coerce, either by force or with money, the gangs 358 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:15,160 Speaker 1: that are currently there. Oh, you've got a street gang there, 359 00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:18,760 Speaker 1: that's awesome. Guess what you're now going to be paying 360 00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:22,159 Speaker 1: us ten percent of everything you do. You're also not 361 00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:26,439 Speaker 1: allowed to do anything without getting permission from me. And 362 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:30,560 Speaker 1: oftentimes those street gangs know that their outmatched and they'll 363 00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:34,480 Speaker 1: simply say, Okay, that sucks, but all right, whatever you need. Sometimes, though, 364 00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:37,720 Speaker 1: you get some guys who decide they want to challenge 365 00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:40,720 Speaker 1: the powers that be, and then they find their friend 366 00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:43,240 Speaker 1: with his eyeballs cut out in the ditch, and then 367 00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:46,800 Speaker 1: they decide they're going to comply. That's how these things work. 368 00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:51,879 Speaker 1: The Italian mafia is taking over Boston now they haven't 369 00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:56,879 Speaker 1: taken it over completely, and there's an Irish gang now 370 00:24:57,000 --> 00:24:58,960 Speaker 1: called the Winter Hill Gang. They're actually a bunch of 371 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:02,680 Speaker 1: different Irish gangs at this time. They're also in Boston. 372 00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:07,840 Speaker 1: They work with often the Italians. There's a rivalry there 373 00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:11,160 Speaker 1: and the Italians are taking over. But lots of times, 374 00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:13,280 Speaker 1: one of the things the American mafia did, the Italian 375 00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:16,520 Speaker 1: mafia did really really well, as they hire out their muscle, 376 00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:19,600 Speaker 1: keep themselves out of trouble. You want somebody beaten up, 377 00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:23,040 Speaker 1: you want somebody dead, I mean, yeah, I could do it, 378 00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:25,800 Speaker 1: or I could hire this Irish gang that I don't 379 00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:27,920 Speaker 1: care about to do it and then if they get busted, 380 00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:30,280 Speaker 1: that's a whole lot of not my problem. They want 381 00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:32,440 Speaker 1: the money. I want the guy dead. It all works 382 00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:34,520 Speaker 1: out fine, you know, it's all very on the up 383 00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:40,600 Speaker 1: and up stuff. Whitey eventually gets out. Now I should 384 00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:43,560 Speaker 1: go back to his brother Billy, the good student, the 385 00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:49,080 Speaker 1: good guy. Billy is turning into a rising star in 386 00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:54,840 Speaker 1: Massachusetts politics. And I mean heavy, heavy hitter star. Just 387 00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:56,919 Speaker 1: keep that in your back pocket. We'll come back to that. 388 00:25:57,280 --> 00:26:00,800 Speaker 1: Whitey gets out and obviously goes right back into the 389 00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:04,119 Speaker 1: gang life. He tries to work construction and things like that. 390 00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:07,760 Speaker 1: And they say his brother Billy tried to get him 391 00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:10,080 Speaker 1: legit work and he wouldn't take it. I don't know 392 00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:12,879 Speaker 1: if I believe that. Who knows, But Whitey doesn't do 393 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:19,800 Speaker 1: legit work. It's not long, and he's hurting people. He 394 00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:24,000 Speaker 1: likes to hurt people. All mobsters and gangsters and cartel 395 00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:27,360 Speaker 1: guys are not the same. There are many of them, 396 00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:30,919 Speaker 1: many of them who didn't really enjoy violence, didn't have 397 00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:33,480 Speaker 1: a knack for it. They're better with business or scams 398 00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:35,840 Speaker 1: or numbers or things like that. Everyone has a different 399 00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:39,720 Speaker 1: skill set. There are some guys who simply enjoy killing 400 00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:45,000 Speaker 1: and shooting people and hurting people. That was Whitey Boulger. 401 00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:48,600 Speaker 1: One thing Whitey Boulger was famous for is after he 402 00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:51,240 Speaker 1: would murder somebody, and I mean right after he would 403 00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:55,200 Speaker 1: murder somebody, sometimes he would go upstairs and lay down 404 00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:59,600 Speaker 1: on the couch and take a nap. That's how much 405 00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:05,800 Speaker 1: it pleased him. That's who he was. He's a gang enforcer, 406 00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:08,920 Speaker 1: good at violence. At this point in time, a man 407 00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:12,080 Speaker 1: by the name of Howe Winter is really probably the 408 00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:18,040 Speaker 1: most powerful Irish gang land guy in Boston. Boulger kills 409 00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:20,720 Speaker 1: a guy he shouldn't have killed. It was an accident. 410 00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:26,600 Speaker 1: Howe Winter and Boulger pull together everybody, all the Irish 411 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:29,360 Speaker 1: gangs in town, you know, after white he kills this guy, 412 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:31,560 Speaker 1: and they essentially pull everyone in and say, hey, let's 413 00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:34,600 Speaker 1: have a big meeting. All these Irish gangs are fighting 414 00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:36,760 Speaker 1: each other all the time, killing each other all the time. 415 00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:39,200 Speaker 1: Let's have a big meeting. And at this meeting, what 416 00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:43,280 Speaker 1: they essentially agree is, we're all Irish, let's fight with 417 00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:46,160 Speaker 1: each other. Let or let's stop fighting with each other. 418 00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:50,640 Speaker 1: Let's join together against the Italians so the Italians don't 419 00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:53,040 Speaker 1: run us out of our own town. We're more powerful 420 00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:56,560 Speaker 1: than they are here. We're all together. They all agree, 421 00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:59,680 Speaker 1: this seems like a really good idea, and Whitey really 422 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:06,760 Speaker 1: became the CEO of this. Now, remember that young man 423 00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:09,840 Speaker 1: Whitey Boulger bailed out a long time ago when he 424 00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:12,480 Speaker 1: was getting bullied and harassed and beaten up, and Whitey 425 00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:15,680 Speaker 1: stepped in. You remember that young man's name, John Connolly. 426 00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:21,240 Speaker 1: John Connolly had moved on to become a federal agent 427 00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:25,520 Speaker 1: with the Federal Bureau of Investigation. At this time, a 428 00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:30,600 Speaker 1: man who's digging into organized crime at this time, he 429 00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:34,040 Speaker 1: has a little sit down with somebody he knew from 430 00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:37,879 Speaker 1: his childhood by the name of Whitey Boulger. And what 431 00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:41,360 Speaker 1: does he tell him. He tells him this, those Italians 432 00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:45,280 Speaker 1: that you work with all the time, Whitey, you know, 433 00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:49,480 Speaker 1: they're all informing on you to us, right, they're informing 434 00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:51,360 Speaker 1: on all of you. They want to rat all you 435 00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:56,040 Speaker 1: guys out. Why don't you work with me and rat 436 00:28:56,120 --> 00:29:00,360 Speaker 1: them out. I'll scratch your back, you scratch mine. United 437 00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:04,640 Speaker 1: States of America at this point in time, was hyper focused. 438 00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:08,760 Speaker 1: Our federal government was hyper focused on the Italian mafia. 439 00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:11,720 Speaker 1: On the Italian mob. I mean, obviously they wanted to 440 00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:15,480 Speaker 1: stop all crime. But remember, FBI agents are no different 441 00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:18,200 Speaker 1: than anyone else. Everyone wants a pat on the head 442 00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:20,720 Speaker 1: from the boss. What does the boss really care about? 443 00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:23,720 Speaker 1: The Boss doesn't want to hear about your local Irish 444 00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:27,920 Speaker 1: dude you busted dealing drugs. Bring me Italian mobsters. That's 445 00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:34,320 Speaker 1: what he wants. Whitey sits down with Connolly in agrees. Now, 446 00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:37,760 Speaker 1: how does this proceed going forward? Here's how it proceeded. 447 00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:43,080 Speaker 1: Going forward. Whitey would still routinely work with the Italian mafia, 448 00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:46,800 Speaker 1: oftentimes killing people for them, doing drugs with them, gambling, 449 00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:51,320 Speaker 1: all these things, while at the same time taking information 450 00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:55,040 Speaker 1: on them and ratting them out to the FBI. What 451 00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:59,400 Speaker 1: does Whitey get out of this, Well, the FBI, and 452 00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:02,280 Speaker 1: this is to became a major scandal. The FBI just 453 00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:05,920 Speaker 1: simply turns their back on all the crimes white he's doing. 454 00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:09,520 Speaker 1: He's their guy. They don't want to kill the goose 455 00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:12,520 Speaker 1: that laid the golden egg. He's handing us all this 456 00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:15,520 Speaker 1: Italian information. Why do we want to give him up? 457 00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:21,240 Speaker 1: I should note there's an outstanding podcast on this that 458 00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:23,760 Speaker 1: is way more in depth and way better than anything 459 00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:26,800 Speaker 1: I could do in an hour. By the great Howie Car, 460 00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:29,400 Speaker 1: who doesn't love how We Car. Howie Car did a 461 00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:32,840 Speaker 1: podcast called Dirty Rats. In fact, remind me, Chris, we're 462 00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:35,040 Speaker 1: gonna have Howie on next week. He did a podcast 463 00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:38,760 Speaker 1: called Dirty Rats. It's like a ten twelve parter. It's 464 00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:42,400 Speaker 1: totally free on the whole Boulger, the Brothers Boulger thing. 465 00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:45,760 Speaker 1: It's so good. So if this stuff interests you at all, 466 00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:48,160 Speaker 1: and believe me, I am hitting the thirty thousand foot 467 00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:51,200 Speaker 1: view part of it, listen to that podcast. You'd love it. 468 00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:53,040 Speaker 1: You'd absolutely love it. If you love my show, you 469 00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:58,640 Speaker 1: probably love that podcast. Now Whitey is getting more and 470 00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:03,040 Speaker 1: more murderous. He is. He's in with a guy who 471 00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:05,200 Speaker 1: has some sports gambling thing that I'm not going to 472 00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:07,160 Speaker 1: go into. It's called high Lie. They go into this 473 00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:10,000 Speaker 1: in detail in the podcast, but it's called high Lie. 474 00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:13,240 Speaker 1: And the guy who he's partners with eventually gets bought 475 00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:15,400 Speaker 1: out by someone else. And this guy wants to look 476 00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:18,000 Speaker 1: into the books, and if he looks into the books, 477 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:21,880 Speaker 1: it's going to get really really bad. Whitey kills him. 478 00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:26,360 Speaker 1: That guy's a civilian. You can't do that kind of thing. Now, 479 00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:32,160 Speaker 1: back to Whitey Boulger's brother, his brother Billy. His brother 480 00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:38,680 Speaker 1: Billy became president of the Massachusetts State Senate. Now I 481 00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:42,080 Speaker 1: know that sounds fairly important. That may not mean much 482 00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:45,400 Speaker 1: to you. You should know, at least at that time, 483 00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:48,240 Speaker 1: and people will argue at this time too. That's the 484 00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:52,040 Speaker 1: most powerful person in the state of Massachusetts. That's more 485 00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:59,160 Speaker 1: powerful than the governor oftentimes. How powerful was Billy Boulger. Well, 486 00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:03,320 Speaker 1: he had a local breakfast and presidents of the United 487 00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:06,200 Speaker 1: States of America would come to it because Billy Boulger 488 00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:11,320 Speaker 1: asked them too. That's how powerful Billy Boulger was. Billy 489 00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:16,120 Speaker 1: Boulger knew very well what his brother was doing and 490 00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:20,440 Speaker 1: just kept either protecting him or looking the other way. 491 00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:22,120 Speaker 1: We will wrap this story up and then get to 492 00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:41,160 Speaker 1: our ask doctor Jesse questions, hang on, is he smarter 493 00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:47,320 Speaker 1: than everyone who knows? Does he think so? Yeah? That Jesse, 494 00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:55,560 Speaker 1: Kelly Shaw Jake's mint chew is how you will quit dipping. 495 00:32:56,600 --> 00:33:00,160 Speaker 1: It is how you will quit dipping. And I have 496 00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:05,080 Speaker 1: been where you are. I dipped for so long and 497 00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:10,120 Speaker 1: loved it for so long. And if you've never done it, 498 00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:13,440 Speaker 1: if you've never dipped for a long time or smoked 499 00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:15,200 Speaker 1: for a long time, it can be hard for you 500 00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:19,600 Speaker 1: to understand that it becomes simply a part of your 501 00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:24,480 Speaker 1: daily routine. It's like eating, it's like sleeping. It's part 502 00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:27,160 Speaker 1: of you. So when something gets that ingrained in what 503 00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:31,600 Speaker 1: you do, it's difficult to stop. Jake's Mint Chew gives 504 00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:34,360 Speaker 1: you that transition out of it because you get to 505 00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:39,200 Speaker 1: keep dipping only without tobacco and without nicotine. Good at 506 00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:44,000 Speaker 1: Jake's mint Chew dot com. That's Jake's mint Chew dot com. 507 00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:47,000 Speaker 1: Used to promo code Jesse j E S S E 508 00:33:47,680 --> 00:34:06,400 Speaker 1: that gets you twenty percent off Jake's mint Chew dot com. 509 00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:09,839 Speaker 1: It is the Jesse Kelly Show eight seven seven three 510 00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:12,880 Speaker 1: seven seven four three seven three. I'm so excited for 511 00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:16,440 Speaker 1: these asked doctor Jesse questions. Sometimes, like when you have 512 00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:19,040 Speaker 1: a you have to answer a question about the woke 513 00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:23,640 Speaker 1: workplace somebody's struggling with, or a sweet animal fight, or 514 00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:26,560 Speaker 1: the national divorce or all these other things. Sometimes that 515 00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:30,520 Speaker 1: when the questions are so good, I feel myself wanting 516 00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:32,719 Speaker 1: to rush through the history story. But I won't do it. 517 00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:35,160 Speaker 1: I've never done it yet. I will not do it. Chris, 518 00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:37,319 Speaker 1: let's try to wrap this thing up here. Remember if 519 00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:40,080 Speaker 1: you miss any part of the show, you can catch 520 00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:44,000 Speaker 1: the whole thing podcasted after the show on iHeart, on Google, 521 00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:49,279 Speaker 1: on Spotify, and on iTunes. On iTunes, leave a five 522 00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:54,160 Speaker 1: star rating and leave a review talking about how handsome 523 00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:55,799 Speaker 1: I you. I know, we have new ones that you're 524 00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:59,120 Speaker 1: holding out for me, Chris, find me my reviews. We'll 525 00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:01,600 Speaker 1: do those next week. All right, back to Whitey Boulger. 526 00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:07,839 Speaker 1: The FBI keeps looking away too. They know, I mean, 527 00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:10,120 Speaker 1: the FBI has informants all over the place. When they 528 00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:13,920 Speaker 1: start digging into an area, they know Whitey Boulger is 529 00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:19,480 Speaker 1: doing very very very bad things. They're just not doing 530 00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:26,239 Speaker 1: anything about it. And understand this about especially about the FBI, 531 00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:30,520 Speaker 1: they very much pick and choose what they're going to 532 00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:33,719 Speaker 1: go after and who they're going to go after. They do. 533 00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:37,000 Speaker 1: That's part of it. You don't have the manpower, the time, 534 00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:41,120 Speaker 1: the resources to go after everyone all the time. You 535 00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:44,920 Speaker 1: hyper focus on one thing or one gang or one area, 536 00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:47,360 Speaker 1: You clean it up, and then you move on to 537 00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:53,000 Speaker 1: the next thing. And the Italians at this point they 538 00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:56,239 Speaker 1: have no idea Whitey Boulger is informing on them, and 539 00:35:56,280 --> 00:36:01,280 Speaker 1: they're still hiring him to kill people for them. Whitey 540 00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:06,960 Speaker 1: is routinely killing potential witnesses and the people they killed. 541 00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:10,319 Speaker 1: White He's gaining the people they killed. It's crazy. He 542 00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:13,239 Speaker 1: would kill that. He would get together with one of 543 00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:15,320 Speaker 1: his partners, one of his main partners. His name is 544 00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:17,319 Speaker 1: Stevie Flemy. I'm not going to go into it. And 545 00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:20,680 Speaker 1: they would kill Stevie Flemy's girl. They'd kill his woman. 546 00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:24,040 Speaker 1: They would they would have a friend or family member. 547 00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:26,319 Speaker 1: They would tell him to, hey, take a vacation this 548 00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:29,239 Speaker 1: week and leave their home, invite the girl over, and 549 00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:32,239 Speaker 1: killer and barrier in the basement. It was it was 550 00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:36,600 Speaker 1: just the norm. And they're doing crazy stuff too. This 551 00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:41,880 Speaker 1: was at that time when the IRA, the rebels in Ireland, 552 00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:43,440 Speaker 1: which we need to do a story on the IRA 553 00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:45,719 Speaker 1: and all that craziness up there. I always thought it 554 00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:48,040 Speaker 1: was funny the British people simply called it the troubles. 555 00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:51,080 Speaker 1: Of course, that's such a British way to put it. Anyway, 556 00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:54,560 Speaker 1: the IRA, you know, they're fighting this rebellion up there, 557 00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:58,680 Speaker 1: or terrorism. However, when you put it, Whitey Bulger sends 558 00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:00,799 Speaker 1: a shipment of weapons over there to help them out, 559 00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:03,640 Speaker 1: like there's some kind of Irish you know, Irish unity 560 00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:08,319 Speaker 1: type thing. They're just into everything White. He eventually gets 561 00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:13,279 Speaker 1: tipped off that the FBI, the FBI's circling in on 562 00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:18,040 Speaker 1: him because John Connolly, his friend and protector at the FBI, 563 00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:21,680 Speaker 1: who was also taking bribes. By this point, his friend retired. 564 00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:26,160 Speaker 1: Should be noted when John Connolly retired, he retired a 565 00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:29,080 Speaker 1: legend at the FBI for all the good work he 566 00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:33,200 Speaker 1: did on organized crime. I believe he's still in federal 567 00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:37,799 Speaker 1: prison to this day. But anyway, White, he gets word 568 00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:41,320 Speaker 1: they're circling in and he takes off. But it turns 569 00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:44,880 Speaker 1: out he's not just some thug. This dude is smart. 570 00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:50,719 Speaker 1: This dude is extremely prepared. He has fake IDs everywhere. 571 00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:55,520 Speaker 1: He has safe deposit boxes with cash dashed in them everywhere, 572 00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:59,239 Speaker 1: from all over the country to all over Europe. This 573 00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:02,359 Speaker 1: guy would not realized he was being hunted by the 574 00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:06,440 Speaker 1: Federal Bureau of Investigation for sixteen years. He was on 575 00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:10,520 Speaker 1: the FBI's most wanted list right after Osama bin Laden 576 00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:14,359 Speaker 1: multiple times. He was the number two man, multiple I'm 577 00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:17,200 Speaker 1: not making that up. Where did he end up settling 578 00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:23,640 Speaker 1: down in La four miles from the FBI headquarters, settles 579 00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:30,400 Speaker 1: in with this woman in an apartment. Eventually though, gets busted. 580 00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:33,160 Speaker 1: I believe it was his landlord. It may have been 581 00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:35,520 Speaker 1: someone else. I believe it was his landlord recognizes and 582 00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:40,840 Speaker 1: busts him, does the trial. John Connolly gets arrested after 583 00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:43,120 Speaker 1: the fact too. When everything comes out, he goes down 584 00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:48,800 Speaker 1: to But the story's not quite over yet. You see, 585 00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:53,920 Speaker 1: Whitey Boulger got sent to prison. And prison can be 586 00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:58,520 Speaker 1: a very very very dangerous place, a very dangerous place 587 00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:04,920 Speaker 1: for people who rat narc inform however you choose to 588 00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:09,359 Speaker 1: put it, prison is very dangerous for those people. So 589 00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:13,920 Speaker 1: the prison system knows this right. They understand that former 590 00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:16,600 Speaker 1: cops are going to be in a lot of danger 591 00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:20,600 Speaker 1: in prison. They understand that informants, rats, narcs are going 592 00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:23,520 Speaker 1: to be in a lot of danger in prison. And 593 00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:28,879 Speaker 1: contrary to what people believe, the prison system, the people 594 00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:32,840 Speaker 1: who run the prison don't want anybody getting hurt, especially 595 00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:36,439 Speaker 1: getting killed, on their watch, because it makes them look 596 00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:39,560 Speaker 1: terrible and makes you look like you don't have control 597 00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:44,759 Speaker 1: of your facility. How does this manifest itself. They will 598 00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:48,960 Speaker 1: keep people either in totally separate prisons. There are prisons 599 00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:54,160 Speaker 1: where I mean half the prison is informants. In that prison. 600 00:39:55,000 --> 00:40:00,200 Speaker 1: They keep the informants in a completely segregated, separate area. 601 00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:06,440 Speaker 1: They have lists written down, lists on all the places, 602 00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:10,520 Speaker 1: all the people. This prisoner is not allowed to mingle with. 603 00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:16,560 Speaker 1: How did that work out for white you, bulger? Hang on, 604 00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:43,719 Speaker 1: I'll tell you. Wake up and text, Text and eat, 605 00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:49,280 Speaker 1: Text and catch the bus, Text and miss your stop. 606 00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:54,320 Speaker 1: Wait wait wait wait, Text and be late to work. Sorryly, 607 00:40:55,040 --> 00:41:00,759 Speaker 1: Text and work, Text and pretend to work, Text and 608 00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:03,120 Speaker 1: x surprised when someone calls you out for not working. 609 00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:06,439 Speaker 1: Text and meet up with a friend you haven't seen 610 00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:09,920 Speaker 1: in forever. Oh hey, Text and complain that they're on 611 00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:13,399 Speaker 1: their phone the whole time. Text and listen to them, 612 00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:18,360 Speaker 1: complain that you're on your phone the whole time, Text 613 00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:21,640 Speaker 1: and whatever. But when you get behind the wheel, give 614 00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:24,279 Speaker 1: your phone to a passenger, put it in the glove box. 615 00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:29,040 Speaker 1: Just don't text and drive, they said, stop texts. 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It is going 624 00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:22,640 Speaker 1: to be it's going to be a mountain to climb 625 00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:26,680 Speaker 1: to tackle all these emails today, everything from national divorce 626 00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:29,399 Speaker 1: to the woke workplace, to try and to find a man, 627 00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:33,360 Speaker 1: to chicken wings to animal fights, to why do black 628 00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:36,280 Speaker 1: people vote the way they do? Oh it's it goes 629 00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:39,319 Speaker 1: from heavy to light to heavy delight. We're going to 630 00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:42,120 Speaker 1: dig into all of it. I am going to answer 631 00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:45,799 Speaker 1: the question about the woke workplace next, because I think 632 00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:48,560 Speaker 1: a lot of you are struggling with this. I'll wrap 633 00:42:48,640 --> 00:43:37,360 Speaker 1: up Whitey Boulder and tackle that now. The Jesse Kelly Show. 634 00:43:48,880 --> 00:44:08,520 Speaker 1: This is the Jesse Kelly Show. It is the world 635 00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:13,759 Speaker 1: famous Jesse Kelly Show with me, Jesse the Show Gun Kelly. 636 00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:18,720 Speaker 1: We are Oh man, it's the thirtieth, Chris, it's the thirtieth. 637 00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:21,920 Speaker 1: We're so close to Cinco de Mayo. I can taste it. 638 00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:25,920 Speaker 1: The sombrero. Yes, I have my sombrero. I can't believe. 639 00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:28,240 Speaker 1: I can't believe you just asked if I have my sombrero. 640 00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:31,040 Speaker 1: I've had my sombrero for days. Sometimes I just walk 641 00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:33,680 Speaker 1: around the house with it on. I do. I was 642 00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:36,080 Speaker 1: walking around the house last night, nothing on but my 643 00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:39,640 Speaker 1: boxers and my sombrero, eating chips. I've never felt so 644 00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:42,560 Speaker 1: alive in my life. We're gonna get to your ask 645 00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:45,759 Speaker 1: doctor Jesse questions here in just a second. Let's wrap 646 00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:49,840 Speaker 1: up this story of Whitey Boulger arrested, send into the 647 00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:53,879 Speaker 1: prison system, supposed to be very much protected. I will 648 00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:57,120 Speaker 1: point out one of the unknown things about the prison 649 00:44:57,200 --> 00:45:01,040 Speaker 1: system is if you're a pain in the rear end 650 00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:04,880 Speaker 1: is an inmate, they have something they call diesel therapy. 651 00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:08,200 Speaker 1: They do to you, diesel therapy. It's very much not 652 00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:12,400 Speaker 1: an official term. What that means is they will transfer 653 00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:15,880 Speaker 1: you from prison to prison to prison and bounce you 654 00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:19,400 Speaker 1: around all the time. About the time all your stuff 655 00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:21,880 Speaker 1: finally gets to you from the last prison and you 656 00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:24,919 Speaker 1: get settled in and get yourself pack it up, you're 657 00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:29,680 Speaker 1: moving again. They always have ways to punish you if 658 00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:33,200 Speaker 1: you're a pain in the rear end. I guess Whitey Boulger, 659 00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:36,360 Speaker 1: from what we gather, got himself in some kind of trouble. 660 00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:39,920 Speaker 1: He got transferred Remember, this is a man who is 661 00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:44,080 Speaker 1: a government informant, so very much supposed to be protected 662 00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:50,200 Speaker 1: and segregated away from everybody else, and most definitely supposed 663 00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:55,400 Speaker 1: to be segregated and separated from Italian mobsters who he 664 00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:59,000 Speaker 1: informed on for years. Who only knows how many he 665 00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:03,160 Speaker 1: put in prison and for how long he did what 666 00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:05,800 Speaker 1: he Boulger shows up in a new prison. This is 667 00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:13,960 Speaker 1: just recently, within twelve hours, he's dead. How did he die? Well? 668 00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:18,520 Speaker 1: They loaded up a bunch of padlocks and socks. He's 669 00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:22,840 Speaker 1: in his eighties, keep in mind, hauled him off camera 670 00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:28,040 Speaker 1: and beat him to death with those. They also stabbed him. 671 00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:33,920 Speaker 1: They also gouged out his eyes and cut out his tongue, 672 00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:42,239 Speaker 1: straight medieval. Who did it well? Allegedly. I don't believe 673 00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:44,560 Speaker 1: he's been convicted yet, so I have to say allegedly 674 00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:56,000 Speaker 1: Italian mobster Freddy Gias. Freddie Gias was a made guy, 675 00:46:56,160 --> 00:46:59,160 Speaker 1: a guy who had been sent to prison because a 676 00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:02,839 Speaker 1: couple other of his fellow mobsters had informed on him. 677 00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:08,600 Speaker 1: A man with a special hatred for informants. I don't 678 00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:11,880 Speaker 1: do conspiracies on the show. There are a bunch of 679 00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:15,640 Speaker 1: conspiracies that float around with this and I certainly don't 680 00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:20,280 Speaker 1: want to accuse anybody of anything. I will simply say 681 00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:25,439 Speaker 1: I know a few corrections officers to a man, they 682 00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:30,160 Speaker 1: all say, you know, one hundred percent, when you get 683 00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:34,120 Speaker 1: someone in your hands that has to be segregated from 684 00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:37,760 Speaker 1: other people, especially other specific people. It's not a word 685 00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:40,279 Speaker 1: of mouth. Someone forgot to say a thing. You come 686 00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:42,760 Speaker 1: with a sheet, you come with a piece of paper, 687 00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:48,719 Speaker 1: keep this guy away from blank. If Whitey Boulger got 688 00:47:48,719 --> 00:47:51,759 Speaker 1: to a brand new prison and in less than a 689 00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:57,359 Speaker 1: day found himself alone with an Italian mobster who's there, 690 00:47:57,360 --> 00:48:02,040 Speaker 1: who was already there serving a life sentence, either someone 691 00:48:02,160 --> 00:48:08,800 Speaker 1: had a screw up on a monumental scale, or somebody 692 00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:14,040 Speaker 1: got paid off. I am not accusing anyone of anything. 693 00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:17,920 Speaker 1: I will say, we do know though this kind of 694 00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:23,440 Speaker 1: thing absolutely has happened before. That is the story of 695 00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:26,840 Speaker 1: Whitey Boulder, and that is the story of how it ended. 696 00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:33,080 Speaker 1: When we talk about the FBI, don't ever be under 697 00:48:33,120 --> 00:48:37,920 Speaker 1: the impression that they haven't always played favorites. That's what 698 00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:42,400 Speaker 1: they do. You just didn't care. I just didn't care 699 00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:45,920 Speaker 1: when they're playing favorites between the Italian mob or the 700 00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:51,239 Speaker 1: Irish mob. It was no big deal back. Then you're 701 00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:54,160 Speaker 1: going to care a lot more when they start deciding, 702 00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:57,319 Speaker 1: as it appears they have that you the Republican or 703 00:48:57,320 --> 00:49:01,360 Speaker 1: the criminal and the Democrat needs to be ignored, that 704 00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:06,160 Speaker 1: gets to be a much, much bigger deal. All right, 705 00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:09,319 Speaker 1: it's an ask, doctor Jesse Friday. Let's dig into one 706 00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:14,279 Speaker 1: of the heavy ones. First, Dear Oracle. A few weeks ago, 707 00:49:14,320 --> 00:49:17,239 Speaker 1: you discussed a work woke place on your show. I'm 708 00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:20,399 Speaker 1: still somewhat dumbfounded by an experience I recently had at 709 00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:24,560 Speaker 1: my own work workplace woke workplace. I work in mental health, 710 00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:26,560 Speaker 1: so I know going in that I will be surrounded 711 00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:29,840 Speaker 1: by mostly Democrats. This shouldn't matter, because I can do 712 00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:32,960 Speaker 1: my job effectively without taking any political stance at all, 713 00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:35,520 Speaker 1: so I try to avoid it all together when talking 714 00:49:35,520 --> 00:49:39,239 Speaker 1: to other staff. My organization is fairly large, but my 715 00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:43,000 Speaker 1: team consists of only a small handful of people. One day, 716 00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:46,240 Speaker 1: during a team meeting, the conversation shifted from work related 717 00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:50,920 Speaker 1: business to simply bashing Republicans without warning. I'll spare you 718 00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:53,759 Speaker 1: the details. A few minutes later, for some reason, one 719 00:49:53,800 --> 00:49:58,719 Speaker 1: co worker started criticizing scientology, but first stopped herself to 720 00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:02,759 Speaker 1: nervously ask if anyone present was a scientologist in order 721 00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:06,200 Speaker 1: to avoid offending anyone with what she was about to say. 722 00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:10,120 Speaker 1: Despite the overwhelming difference in the number of Republicans compared 723 00:50:10,160 --> 00:50:13,160 Speaker 1: to that of scientologists, she apparently believed it was more 724 00:50:13,239 --> 00:50:16,720 Speaker 1: likely that somebody there was a scientologist, not to my question. 725 00:50:18,440 --> 00:50:22,120 Speaker 1: This same coworker, accorded to herself during a conversation I 726 00:50:22,160 --> 00:50:25,040 Speaker 1: had with her a few weeks prior, is only a 727 00:50:25,160 --> 00:50:28,799 Speaker 1: leaning Democrat. From my experience working with her, I have 728 00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:31,920 Speaker 1: nothing negative to say about her Professionally. We all know 729 00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:35,239 Speaker 1: that career politicians, celebrities, blah blah blah blah generally can't 730 00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:38,120 Speaker 1: relate to the rest of us. But how do seemingly 731 00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:42,120 Speaker 1: regular people we see and interact with every day become 732 00:50:42,239 --> 00:50:45,319 Speaker 1: so out of touch? Thanks for reading, and thank you 733 00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:48,160 Speaker 1: for having the courage to say the difficult truths such 734 00:50:48,200 --> 00:50:50,840 Speaker 1: as COVID lockdowns were disaster from when they were the 735 00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:54,040 Speaker 1: first mentioned, and that nuts did not belong in the dessert. 736 00:50:54,120 --> 00:50:56,840 Speaker 1: It is disgusting, he said, Feel free to use my 737 00:50:56,960 --> 00:51:01,080 Speaker 1: name his name as Blake. Okay, let's have a chat, 738 00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:03,279 Speaker 1: because I know a lot of you have experienced this. 739 00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:11,799 Speaker 1: You run into a Democrat. Look, I've experienced this neighborhood parties, workplaces, 740 00:51:11,840 --> 00:51:13,920 Speaker 1: and things like that. You run into a Democrat, not 741 00:51:14,040 --> 00:51:20,440 Speaker 1: some nutball activist either, just a Democrat, and without hesitation, 742 00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:24,799 Speaker 1: they will begin It was really prevalent during the Trump era. 743 00:51:24,840 --> 00:51:29,560 Speaker 1: Without hesitation, they will just begin destroying Trump, not knowing 744 00:51:29,600 --> 00:51:32,520 Speaker 1: how you feel about anything and whatnot. Oh did you 745 00:51:32,560 --> 00:51:35,719 Speaker 1: see what that idiot Trump said? Oh he's so stupid, 746 00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:39,200 Speaker 1: what a nut job? What of it in this? You 747 00:51:39,320 --> 00:51:42,400 Speaker 1: just experienced this at your workplace, Blake, I'm sure that. 748 00:51:42,560 --> 00:51:44,120 Speaker 1: I know we have a bunch of college students who 749 00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:47,040 Speaker 1: listen to the show. I know you've experienced it. This 750 00:51:47,120 --> 00:51:51,680 Speaker 1: is something people on the right experience regularly. Why do 751 00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:57,560 Speaker 1: you experience this? Allow me to explain how often have 752 00:51:57,680 --> 00:52:01,280 Speaker 1: you heard me talk about the system? Ten thousand times? 753 00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:05,920 Speaker 1: It's brought up multiple times on the show. The reason 754 00:52:06,120 --> 00:52:13,520 Speaker 1: I call it the system is because when one ideology 755 00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:19,800 Speaker 1: governs such a vast portion of any society, it doesn't 756 00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:24,120 Speaker 1: become a political battle or opposing views or something like that. 757 00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:30,120 Speaker 1: It becomes one system. There becomes one way of looking 758 00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:33,160 Speaker 1: at things, and that one way of looking at things 759 00:52:33,200 --> 00:52:36,520 Speaker 1: the left way, the democrat way, the communist way. That 760 00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:40,880 Speaker 1: is the one way that is pushed by all and 761 00:52:41,040 --> 00:52:47,440 Speaker 1: I do mean all the traditional cultural institutions. Now. So 762 00:52:48,440 --> 00:52:50,640 Speaker 1: when your kid goes to school, that's what they're hearing. 763 00:52:51,680 --> 00:52:54,439 Speaker 1: When your kid gets on YouTube, when they get home, 764 00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:57,240 Speaker 1: that's what they're hearing. When your kid watches the movies, 765 00:52:57,280 --> 00:52:59,640 Speaker 1: that's what they're hearing. Sitcoms, that's what they're hearing. When 766 00:52:59,640 --> 00:53:03,080 Speaker 1: they listen into music, that's what they're hearing. When they 767 00:53:03,120 --> 00:53:05,120 Speaker 1: hear democrats talk, That's what they're hearing. When they hear 768 00:53:05,160 --> 00:53:09,160 Speaker 1: Republicans talk, that's what they're hearing. When they watch sports, 769 00:53:09,160 --> 00:53:11,960 Speaker 1: it's what they're hearing. How does this manifest itself? How 770 00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:14,200 Speaker 1: does it apply to what Blake's talking about. I will 771 00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:21,640 Speaker 1: tell you in just a second. You don't have to 772 00:53:21,719 --> 00:53:24,759 Speaker 1: dip forever. You know that, Ryan. You don't have to 773 00:53:24,840 --> 00:53:27,680 Speaker 1: smoke forever. And the reason I say it like that 774 00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:31,040 Speaker 1: is I have been that guy. I've been that guy. 775 00:53:31,080 --> 00:53:33,600 Speaker 1: I dipped for so long. And what would happen is 776 00:53:33,640 --> 00:53:35,600 Speaker 1: I would decide I'm gonna quit. It's bad for me. 777 00:53:35,600 --> 00:53:37,919 Speaker 1: I'm gonna quit. I'm a man, I don't need any help. 778 00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:40,240 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna quit cold turkey, and I would fail 779 00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:43,520 Speaker 1: time and time and time again. I tried things like 780 00:53:43,560 --> 00:53:48,239 Speaker 1: the patch it didn't work, gum of sunflower seeds, I 781 00:53:48,320 --> 00:53:51,239 Speaker 1: tried at all. It's just a matter of finding the 782 00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:55,080 Speaker 1: right thing to help you quit. That's Jake's mintschew. Go 783 00:53:55,440 --> 00:53:58,640 Speaker 1: put in your dip. Just make sure it's Jake's Mintchew. 784 00:53:58,880 --> 00:54:02,120 Speaker 1: It's tobacco free, it's nicotine free, it's even sugar free, 785 00:54:02,200 --> 00:54:05,280 Speaker 1: and I highly recommend just a personal choice, I highly 786 00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:08,480 Speaker 1: recommend their CBD pouches because it really helps take that 787 00:54:08,600 --> 00:54:12,399 Speaker 1: extra edge off. Get a Jake's Mint Chew dot com. 788 00:54:12,440 --> 00:54:15,520 Speaker 1: That's Jake's mint Chew dot com. Make sure you used 789 00:54:15,520 --> 00:54:18,400 Speaker 1: to promo code Jesse at check out. When you do that, 790 00:54:18,800 --> 00:54:19,759 Speaker 1: get ten percent off