WEBVTT - Abolish Restaurants Ft. Andrew 0:00:05.000 --> 0:00:09.680 Take it away. Robert Evans, gosh, it could happen here. 0:00:12.080 --> 0:00:16.319 I did it brilliant. Thank you, Yeah, I love I 0:00:16.360 --> 0:00:19.760 love that really, thank you. You're Robert Evans. We also 0:00:19.800 --> 0:00:22.360 have Christopher Long, Garrison Davis, and we have Andrew here 0:00:22.360 --> 0:00:25.440 with us. We'll be leading this episode. Hi Andrew, Hello, 0:00:25.520 --> 0:00:32.000 Hello everyone. Oh, it is the with in Portland. It 0:00:32.159 --> 0:00:34.920 is cold. Everywhere else in the continental the United States 0:00:34.960 --> 0:00:39.400 it is a boiling hell storm. Actually today today it's 0:00:39.400 --> 0:00:43.160 only eighty four. But yeah, we we have three days 0:00:43.159 --> 0:00:45.080 where it's merely in the eighties and then it goes 0:00:45.120 --> 0:00:48.120 back to being like seven again. It's very very excited 0:00:50.280 --> 0:00:55.720 temperature measurements. But Angeles, it's lovely today. We're lovely for 0:00:55.720 --> 0:00:58.000 the next couple of days, and then we'll be burning 0:01:00.040 --> 0:01:04.120 sixty six is It's going to be perfect here forever. 0:01:04.319 --> 0:01:07.720 Climate change is over in northern Oregon. I have declared it. 0:01:08.319 --> 0:01:12.200 Well have you declared it? It must be true exactly. 0:01:13.400 --> 0:01:16.080 So today, once you have a bit of a discussion 0:01:16.480 --> 0:01:24.000 and open discussion about my favorite kind of discourse, and 0:01:24.040 --> 0:01:30.839 that is dead discourse. I wanted to talk about discussion 0:01:31.240 --> 0:01:34.039 could and code that people have been having a couple 0:01:34.040 --> 0:01:39.960 of weeks ago about restaurants restaurant discourse, whole idea that 0:01:40.360 --> 0:01:43.360 people who had about five minutes ago and got super 0:01:43.440 --> 0:01:45.959 are lap over and sparked to a bunch of like 0:01:46.600 --> 0:01:50.960 drama because that's what social media and centervices. But I figured, 0:01:51.000 --> 0:01:54.040 you know, we could have a nice round table discussion 0:01:54.040 --> 0:01:57.760 here about code and code restaurant abolition and share our 0:01:57.760 --> 0:01:59.760 thoughts on the idea is presented in the zine that 0:01:59.880 --> 0:02:02.720 in spired it for those those who read it, Abolish 0:02:02.760 --> 0:02:07.720 Restaurants by pro Lain Food. But first of all, I 0:02:07.720 --> 0:02:10.320 wanted to share a bit about my experience in the 0:02:10.360 --> 0:02:14.240 food industry. It was quite brief, and by brief, I 0:02:14.280 --> 0:02:19.840 mean like four days I started working at this this 0:02:19.960 --> 0:02:25.680 winery slash cafe that was um owned and run by 0:02:25.840 --> 0:02:30.200 this trust fund baby, and it was very clear that 0:02:31.200 --> 0:02:34.840 she had failed up for most of her life. UM. 0:02:34.840 --> 0:02:38.640 It was very disorganized and very stressful experience. I quit 0:02:38.720 --> 0:02:41.520 like a few days after I got it because instead 0:02:41.560 --> 0:02:46.040 of you know, making coffees and preparing wines and stuff, 0:02:46.760 --> 0:02:49.160 I got a job pushing paper in an office, which 0:02:49.240 --> 0:02:52.880 is only marginally better. And I mean everyone want to 0:02:52.880 --> 0:02:55.480 speak over like food serce people or anything because like 0:02:55.880 --> 0:02:59.200 my experience is very limited. But in my own limited experience, 0:02:59.280 --> 0:03:03.200 it sucked, I mean my blood too into water trying 0:03:03.200 --> 0:03:04.680 to keep up with everything. It was one of those 0:03:04.760 --> 0:03:06.720 kind of under the table jobs, so you don't have 0:03:06.760 --> 0:03:09.720 a contract or a specific job description. It's just like 0:03:09.760 --> 0:03:12.840 you're doing everything. So you're sorting and taking off recycling, 0:03:12.880 --> 0:03:15.679 you're organized and start, you're making coffee, bus and tables 0:03:15.680 --> 0:03:20.160 and cashion products. You're handling accounting for some reason, like lady, 0:03:20.160 --> 0:03:23.560 I just got here, but I'm already doing accounting, um, 0:03:23.600 --> 0:03:25.720 and so on and so forth. I didn't have an 0:03:25.720 --> 0:03:31.799 official break either, and I wasn't allowed to sit at all. Um. 0:03:31.800 --> 0:03:33.280 I mean, my boss said that I could stop for 0:03:33.360 --> 0:03:36.080 lunch what I needed to, But because of this these 0:03:36.120 --> 0:03:40.120 constant responsibility she was piling onto me, I bus, we 0:03:40.280 --> 0:03:42.760 never got a chance to take a breather. The one 0:03:42.800 --> 0:03:46.480 time I did take a lunch break, she rushed me 0:03:46.520 --> 0:03:48.720 out to the lunch break because I was taken too long, 0:03:51.160 --> 0:03:56.520 and she was busy taking care of her other real 0:03:56.640 --> 0:04:00.680 estate and her only consistent customers with her friends. Yet somehow, 0:04:01.320 --> 0:04:04.600 you know, she kept the doors open and the lights 0:04:04.600 --> 0:04:11.240 on because you know, trust fund baby, but yeah, to reiterate, 0:04:11.800 --> 0:04:17.240 it was a very sucky experience. Yeah, I worked at 0:04:17.240 --> 0:04:19.839 a restaurant for starting when I was in high school, 0:04:19.880 --> 0:04:23.800 I was fifteen and a half, for three or four 0:04:23.880 --> 0:04:27.520 years part of college. It made me learn a lot 0:04:27.560 --> 0:04:34.120 about how awful people are. But it was like, you 0:04:34.200 --> 0:04:36.799 did learn how to work in a team and things 0:04:36.839 --> 0:04:44.239 like that. Helpful skills there, but management was terrible. Ah, 0:04:44.520 --> 0:04:52.119 not exactly easy work, not exactly fun work. Um. Yeah, 0:04:52.320 --> 0:04:56.280 it was like, I honestly feel like a lot of 0:04:56.279 --> 0:04:59.800 people should have to do some type of job like 0:04:59.839 --> 0:05:01.960 that so that they learn, you know, how how to 0:05:02.000 --> 0:05:06.880 treat people who work in that in that kind of position. Um, 0:05:06.920 --> 0:05:12.240 because mostly my memories of it is terrible, horrible customers 0:05:12.240 --> 0:05:16.119 who just treated people like scum. Yeah, but I needed 0:05:16.160 --> 0:05:20.960 the job, so yeah. Yeah, My only experience in food 0:05:21.000 --> 0:05:24.240 service was working at a sonic not for a crazy 0:05:24.240 --> 0:05:26.920 long time, but it was terrible, um, and it left 0:05:26.920 --> 0:05:30.480 me with an abiding like respect for people who have 0:05:30.600 --> 0:05:34.599 to do that. And uh, you know, we can talk, 0:05:34.640 --> 0:05:36.760 we'll talk more about the restaurant thing, but I certainly 0:05:36.760 --> 0:05:39.479 don't think fast food restaurants are a thing that exists 0:05:39.480 --> 0:05:41.359 in my ideal future because I don't know how you 0:05:41.360 --> 0:05:46.679 could possibly operate those without a tremendous amount of human 0:05:46.720 --> 0:05:50.200 suffering and wasted potential, because they're just they're bad things. 0:05:50.240 --> 0:05:53.520 Now that said, any utopian society will have a way 0:05:53.680 --> 0:05:58.359 to acquire Popeyes, but perhaps not at like midnight in 0:05:58.360 --> 0:06:01.080 every city of the country. Whenever you wanted my utopian 0:06:01.160 --> 0:06:03.680 society as a wool in which KFC has been abolished 0:06:03.720 --> 0:06:09.839 and everything else too exist, Yes, yes, well again this 0:06:09.920 --> 0:06:13.799 is it could happen here sponsored by I'm perfectly okay 0:06:13.800 --> 0:06:20.080 with imperialism, but like I need someone. Yeah, and what 0:06:20.640 --> 0:06:22.919 kind of like can I ask, like, what kind of restaurant? 0:06:22.920 --> 0:06:25.279 I know? Robert said his fast food? Mine was very 0:06:25.279 --> 0:06:27.760 like casual food. What what kind of restaurant did you 0:06:27.800 --> 0:06:31.359 work at? Right? It wasn't It was like a winery 0:06:31.680 --> 0:06:35.599 slash caffee and it also served food. It was like 0:06:35.600 --> 0:06:39.359 a touched to a hotel. Oh yeah, and the hotel 0:06:39.440 --> 0:06:41.919 part of it probably made it. Yeah, appearance in the 0:06:41.960 --> 0:06:50.039 hotel and yeah, all right, yeah, I'm sorry, Yeah, kurs, 0:06:50.040 --> 0:06:52.360 scare either of you rather work in the food fruit 0:06:52.400 --> 0:06:54.880 food service industry at all? Yeah. I worked at a 0:06:54.920 --> 0:06:57.479 bakery for like a year and a half mostly back 0:06:57.520 --> 0:07:00.320 of the house. Um. But I mean, would you know, 0:07:00.400 --> 0:07:04.560 would end up washing washing dishes and taking out recycling 0:07:04.600 --> 0:07:06.279 and all that kind of stuff. But most of my 0:07:06.279 --> 0:07:09.400 work was designing recipes because I was more on like 0:07:09.480 --> 0:07:13.400 the food science angle. I don't know, yeah, I mean 0:07:13.440 --> 0:07:18.760 it's I have a complicated uh feelings on like cafes specifically, 0:07:18.800 --> 0:07:21.560 I mean I I love anarchist cafes and like the 0:07:21.600 --> 0:07:23.880 idea of Chris Cafe. I would love to love to 0:07:24.000 --> 0:07:27.000 like have one at some point. It's like operated by 0:07:27.000 --> 0:07:30.840 the workers WoT quote owned by the workers, um, with 0:07:30.880 --> 0:07:35.680 a shooting range out back. But obviously there's guns and buns. 0:07:35.720 --> 0:07:38.280 We call it guns and buns. You can get a 0:07:38.280 --> 0:07:42.280 Croissan and you can shoot funded by cafe by all 0:07:42.320 --> 0:07:52.600 of me inside. You're right, guns and Buns is a 0:07:52.640 --> 0:07:57.440 breakfast cafe, gun range, strip club and apparently as long 0:07:57.480 --> 0:07:59.040 as as long as you fund it, you can have 0:07:59.240 --> 0:08:03.920 whatever you want. Um, but the people will fund it. Garrison. Obviously, 0:08:03.960 --> 0:08:06.560 the food service industry has just make it a cooperative 0:08:06.640 --> 0:08:14.960 that everything sorry, police continue. Yeah, Like the food service 0:08:15.000 --> 0:08:17.200 industry has a lot of problems. But if if I 0:08:17.200 --> 0:08:19.400 were if I were able to go into a bakery, 0:08:19.480 --> 0:08:21.760 like maybe like two or three times a week to 0:08:21.920 --> 0:08:25.480 just bake food for people and that helps me live 0:08:25.560 --> 0:08:27.840 the rest of the week. I would totally do that, right, So, 0:08:27.880 --> 0:08:31.440 like it depends on a lot of factors, but it's 0:08:31.440 --> 0:08:33.880 like there's ideas around, like an anarchist cafe, work around 0:08:33.920 --> 0:08:35.720 a cafe that would be like totally chilled to work 0:08:35.960 --> 0:08:37.800 to like be there a few days of the week 0:08:38.160 --> 0:08:40.640 making food because I enjoy making food. I enjoy baking, 0:08:40.679 --> 0:08:43.600 and I like food science. Um. But you know, when 0:08:43.640 --> 0:08:45.400 you would start we start tying that into labor and 0:08:45.440 --> 0:08:48.600 exploiting the labor practices and the notion of like having 0:08:48.640 --> 0:08:50.960 to serve other people, then it gets a little bit 0:08:51.000 --> 0:08:54.920 more tricky, um, and you know, less less less good. 0:08:55.320 --> 0:09:00.800 That's yeah, exactly. You know, it was kind of funny 0:09:00.800 --> 0:09:05.880 about it, Um, I would say, is like kind of 0:09:05.960 --> 0:09:08.720 last mention of thought, Guada, let me just think for 0:09:08.720 --> 0:09:11.880 a sect. Well, So, I mean one of the things 0:09:11.920 --> 0:09:14.800 that I have noticed over the years, because I've had 0:09:15.880 --> 0:09:19.199 a lot of friends work as bartenders, as waiters and waitresses, 0:09:19.920 --> 0:09:21.760 there are there's a chunk of people who really like 0:09:21.880 --> 0:09:24.160 the work. They usually don't like their employer. They often 0:09:24.200 --> 0:09:27.439 have issues with like their manager or whatever, but like 0:09:27.600 --> 0:09:30.840 they like their co workers and they enjoy the the 0:09:30.960 --> 0:09:35.560 act of like doing restaurants stuff. Um I I and 0:09:35.600 --> 0:09:36.839 I know that. Like, so one of the things that 0:09:36.880 --> 0:09:38.760 I did recreationally for years is I was good. I 0:09:38.800 --> 0:09:41.600 would go to these regional burning Man events. And one 0:09:41.600 --> 0:09:43.600 of the rules there's like everyone pays the same thing 0:09:43.640 --> 0:09:46.920 to get in. There's no like get there's no like talents, 0:09:46.960 --> 0:09:48.679 so there's nobody who's like paid to be there as 0:09:48.679 --> 0:09:52.400 an act, and there's no like exchange of currency lab 0:09:52.480 --> 0:09:54.760 But there are restaurants. There are people who like bake 0:09:54.800 --> 0:09:56.640 food and and and give out and like make and 0:09:56.640 --> 0:09:59.640 give out coffee. There's there's multiple bars, and a number 0:09:59.640 --> 0:10:01.440 of the people I knew who were like the most 0:10:01.640 --> 0:10:03.599 who would spend the most of their time which is 0:10:03.640 --> 0:10:07.000 again totally their own at these events volunteering as bartenders 0:10:07.320 --> 0:10:09.440 were people who worked as bartenders. And we're like, look, 0:10:09.480 --> 0:10:11.920 I like serving drinks. I hate a lot of what 0:10:12.000 --> 0:10:14.000 goes along with being in a bar, but I enjoy 0:10:14.120 --> 0:10:17.480 making and serving drinks. There was this one really cool 0:10:17.559 --> 0:10:19.960 dude out in the middle of he was out because 0:10:20.000 --> 0:10:22.120 it's a spread out over acres of Woodlands. There's just 0:10:22.160 --> 0:10:25.080 this guy I found one night alone in the woods 0:10:25.120 --> 0:10:27.800 at like a podium sized, little booth lit up bar 0:10:27.880 --> 0:10:29.920 he'd made, and he was like, look, I am a 0:10:30.040 --> 0:10:32.720 very good bartender. What I do not like is making 0:10:32.720 --> 0:10:34.800 the same things every night for drunk people who don't 0:10:34.840 --> 0:10:36.880 know anything about a good mixed drink. So you and 0:10:36.880 --> 0:10:39.120 I are gonna have like a five minute conversation and 0:10:39.120 --> 0:10:40.840 then I'm gonna tell you what I'm gonna make you 0:10:41.480 --> 0:10:43.920 based on like yeah, and it would, but yeah, it 0:10:44.000 --> 0:10:46.600 was really cool like that. More stuff like that, More 0:10:46.640 --> 0:10:49.360 like restaurant pop ups that are like those types of 0:10:49.400 --> 0:10:52.959 things are are just divorced from like this notion of like, 0:10:53.000 --> 0:10:56.199 you know, being served by a lower class member of society. 0:10:56.200 --> 0:10:58.800 Instead it's people like sharing actual interests that they have 0:10:59.120 --> 0:11:01.200 and they're not obligated to be there or else they get, 0:11:01.280 --> 0:11:03.840 you know, or else they're not able to pay their rent. Right, 0:11:04.080 --> 0:11:07.080 There's lots of things like a utopian society or be like, yeah, 0:11:07.160 --> 0:11:10.520 I would totally be down with doing some some kind 0:11:10.520 --> 0:11:12.959 of you know, some kind of thing related to giving 0:11:13.000 --> 0:11:15.280 food to other people are preparing food or you know, 0:11:15.400 --> 0:11:19.960 drink like mixed strengths Uh, I like making coffee a 0:11:19.960 --> 0:11:23.520 lot like espresso and the ship. Um, it's like, I 0:11:23.520 --> 0:11:26.920 can totally see that, but right now, you know, it's 0:11:26.920 --> 0:11:30.640 just a totally different field. Um, by and large for 0:11:30.720 --> 0:11:34.000 most people in you know, the food service industry, and 0:11:34.360 --> 0:11:37.360 it sucks work. By by and large, it really sucks 0:11:37.360 --> 0:11:39.800 to work in the food service industry. Yeah, the food 0:11:39.840 --> 0:11:42.760 service industry is one of the most explicitve industries in 0:11:42.800 --> 0:11:46.679 the country. That said, the idea of gathering in public 0:11:46.840 --> 0:11:50.680 to consume food and beverages is fundamental to human beings 0:11:50.720 --> 0:11:53.119 and we're never not going to have that as society's 0:11:53.600 --> 0:11:55.520 so there has to be ways in which to have 0:11:56.080 --> 0:11:58.679 versions of that. And again probably not the every ten 0:11:58.720 --> 0:12:00.960 minutes you get the same three has food restaurants that 0:12:00.960 --> 0:12:04.040 are open all night. That probably that definitely does not 0:12:04.080 --> 0:12:07.839 exist in an ideal society. But in any any better society, 0:12:08.400 --> 0:12:11.520 human beings will gather to eat and drink around each 0:12:11.520 --> 0:12:14.120 other because it's something we've done in every civilization that 0:12:14.160 --> 0:12:17.240 has ever existed. So, Andrew, you do, do you want 0:12:17.240 --> 0:12:19.920 to talk a bit more about the actual zine, because 0:12:20.000 --> 0:12:22.320 I feel like a lot of people's course around the 0:12:22.400 --> 0:12:24.800 zine is not about the zine itself. It's about what 0:12:25.000 --> 0:12:27.920 the title of the Zene is, because people people should 0:12:27.960 --> 0:12:30.160 read the actual zine. If you read it, makes very 0:12:30.160 --> 0:12:36.120 reasonable arguments. Um. The titles just intentionally provocative. Um so yeah, 0:12:36.200 --> 0:12:40.240 And what I've realized about intentionally provocative slogans is that 0:12:41.559 --> 0:12:44.120 the people who who want to get it, you know, 0:12:44.160 --> 0:12:46.319 they tend to be drawn into those kinds of things. 0:12:46.400 --> 0:12:48.880 And then there's some people who see something provocative and 0:12:48.880 --> 0:12:51.400 it kind of shuts them down. Yes. Yes, some people 0:12:51.520 --> 0:12:53.959 see see something supervocative and see it's like I want 0:12:53.960 --> 0:12:55.560 to learn more. And other people see it and they 0:12:55.600 --> 0:12:57.400 have that kind of a gut reaction to It's like 0:12:57.520 --> 0:13:01.640 it's like the backfire effect type thing. Yeah. So I 0:13:01.679 --> 0:13:04.840 mean to get into the kind of the history of 0:13:04.840 --> 0:13:08.559 it and just the idea of restaurants as as the 0:13:08.679 --> 0:13:13.760 Zene Explorers. According to the discourse, a restaurant is just 0:13:13.960 --> 0:13:17.040 a place to eat. If you sit down in the 0:13:17.040 --> 0:13:19.240 middle of a desert with a table and a chair 0:13:19.440 --> 0:13:21.720 and you eat something that's apparently a restaurant, that's not 0:13:21.760 --> 0:13:26.080 a restaurant, and it's not a restaurant. But okay, the 0:13:26.160 --> 0:13:31.280 definition of a restaurant is a place where people pay 0:13:31.400 --> 0:13:33.960 to sit and eat meals that are cooked and served 0:13:34.000 --> 0:13:40.600 on the premises. Commerce is a part of the definition 0:13:40.720 --> 0:13:46.440 of a restaurant. Why do we universalize and naturalize things 0:13:46.440 --> 0:13:49.800 that are neither That is my question. It's like what 0:13:49.840 --> 0:13:52.480 people do with the state, or with capitalism, with police 0:13:52.559 --> 0:13:56.040 or gender. Just like those things. The restaurant is an invention, 0:13:56.840 --> 0:14:01.800 but it's been crystallized and induced into our mind as 0:14:01.840 --> 0:14:05.280 something that is you know, that is natural, it is universal. 0:14:06.160 --> 0:14:10.040 You know when when Kronk brought his buddy Brock a 0:14:10.080 --> 0:14:13.040 piece of chicken, that was a restaurant. You know, it's 0:14:13.080 --> 0:14:15.640 like we take we take these things that come from 0:14:15.720 --> 0:14:19.760 very specific modern capitalist context and we stretched them out 0:14:19.840 --> 0:14:24.120 over the entire human experience. If you look into the 0:14:24.160 --> 0:14:27.600 history restaurants, the first restaurants began to pay in Paris 0:14:27.600 --> 0:14:31.440 in the seventeen sixties, even as lads in the eighteen fifties, 0:14:31.960 --> 0:14:35.280 majority of the restaurants the world be located in Paris. 0:14:35.440 --> 0:14:37.680 And I mean, for those who know a little bit 0:14:37.680 --> 0:14:40.160 about history, Paris is kind of an interesting place where 0:14:40.200 --> 0:14:45.240 a lot of things happen, especially during that rough time period. 0:14:46.800 --> 0:14:49.960 A lot of stuff going on there exactly. I mean 0:14:50.000 --> 0:14:52.920 elsewhere on the world. Communal meals were quite common. People 0:14:53.000 --> 0:14:55.400 cooked community in the eight community, and they were new 0:14:55.480 --> 0:15:02.520 restaurants specifically before the invention of restaurants, and in Paris, 0:15:02.720 --> 0:15:05.920 around Europe at least, where people had servants who cooked 0:15:05.920 --> 0:15:08.880 for them, travelers had inns where their meal was included 0:15:08.920 --> 0:15:10.400 with the price of the room, and they ate for 0:15:10.440 --> 0:15:13.480 the innkeeper and his family, and peasants they ate their 0:15:13.480 --> 0:15:16.440 meals at home, and of course they were also caterers 0:15:16.480 --> 0:15:19.800 for events and special occasions. And there were taverns and 0:15:20.040 --> 0:15:23.640 wineries and coffees and bakeries for certain foods and drinks. 0:15:24.960 --> 0:15:27.880 Of course, later on all of those things, the taverns, 0:15:27.920 --> 0:15:31.280 the wineries, the gig the caffees, and the bakeries. After 0:15:31.400 --> 0:15:36.160 restaurants came about those other institutions to shape and bend 0:15:36.320 --> 0:15:38.160 into this sort of the mold of the restaurant that 0:15:38.280 --> 0:15:45.560 was established restaurant based on the name of it um 0:15:45.760 --> 0:15:48.320 comes from this, this idea that they were meant to 0:15:48.360 --> 0:15:53.080 restore health to sick people. Restaurant restaurant, all right, And 0:15:53.080 --> 0:15:56.400 they used to sue these small meat stews. So by 0:15:56.440 --> 0:15:59.680 by that by that metric, taco bell cannot be a restaurant. 0:16:02.600 --> 0:16:05.280 I I would argue that it is the only restaurant. 0:16:06.600 --> 0:16:09.680 It's well, it's gonna restore Bowel movement if you haven't 0:16:09.680 --> 0:16:12.200 gonna block it that that that it will restore that. 0:16:12.400 --> 0:16:15.560 But besides that, I cannot, I can do not think 0:16:15.560 --> 0:16:18.200 it's going to restore. Yeah talk about it's probably something 0:16:18.240 --> 0:16:24.520 like a laxatant. I don't know. But um yeah, So 0:16:24.920 --> 0:16:29.880 why France, Why Paris? Why restaurants? It kind of occurred 0:16:30.560 --> 0:16:33.680 after the food craft kills were abolished by the Revolution. 0:16:34.600 --> 0:16:37.360 It was like this attempt to kind of democratize the 0:16:37.400 --> 0:16:41.960 food industry. You know, Liberty got a horn, all that jazz, 0:16:42.640 --> 0:16:46.400 so restaurants and it began spree enough because all these 0:16:46.480 --> 0:16:49.400 former cooks of the now be headed king and aristocrats, 0:16:49.440 --> 0:16:53.320 they wanted to work somewhere. Sure, so, you know, in 0:16:53.320 --> 0:16:55.120 a restaurant, you get a meal at any time the 0:16:55.160 --> 0:16:58.080 businesses open, anyone with money could get a meal. The 0:16:58.120 --> 0:17:00.920 customers would come and they would eat an indivi vidual tables, 0:17:01.000 --> 0:17:04.359 eat individual plates and bowls of food. They get to 0:17:04.440 --> 0:17:07.840 choose from another option, a number of options, and they 0:17:07.840 --> 0:17:10.200 grew in size and complexity as they went into They 0:17:10.240 --> 0:17:14.800 got a fixed menu, and eventually one day we invented 0:17:14.800 --> 0:17:20.720 the bacon eat. Yes, yeah, the end fact, the bacon. 0:17:21.040 --> 0:17:23.560 It was the first booger I had when I went 0:17:23.600 --> 0:17:29.280 to Neus. I would apologize, but this country has done 0:17:29.320 --> 0:17:36.040 so much worse than that of fun facts about Andrew. Yeah, 0:17:36.119 --> 0:17:37.840 you know, it's another thing to tune in and you 0:17:37.840 --> 0:17:39.760 get a little new fact that you could I don't 0:17:39.800 --> 0:17:47.119 know adds my Wikia page or something, but yeah, yeah, 0:17:47.520 --> 0:17:50.360 it was, it was, It was. It was mid. Honestly, 0:17:50.800 --> 0:17:55.560 my brother makes better boogers. But that's besides the point. Yeah, 0:17:55.840 --> 0:17:58.400 nearly every burger that you can get at a fast 0:17:58.400 --> 0:18:03.840 food restaurant is is mid. Yeah. T g I Friday's 0:18:03.840 --> 0:18:10.680 had some good Friday. That is the place when you're 0:18:10.680 --> 0:18:13.119 in a town you've never been before, that's where you 0:18:13.119 --> 0:18:16.120 want to just show up and get absolutely ship house 0:18:16.200 --> 0:18:18.720 drunk until two am with like a bunch of strangers 0:18:18.720 --> 0:18:20.960 at the t g I Friday's Bar, which is the 0:18:21.040 --> 0:18:24.720 Boulevard of broken dreams. Like it's only people who can't 0:18:24.760 --> 0:18:28.160 hack it in a regular bar and weirdos traveling through town. 0:18:28.240 --> 0:18:35.800 I love a T G I. A Friday's bark. I 0:18:35.920 --> 0:18:38.080 was not aware of that stereod type. I mean it's 0:18:38.119 --> 0:18:42.280 a t G I here in Trinidad, and I mean 0:18:42.320 --> 0:18:44.080 last time I knew they had like some kind of 0:18:44.160 --> 0:18:50.639 karaoke thing going on. Yeah, it's probably the vibe. I 0:18:50.640 --> 0:18:53.680 haven't been too many times anyway, I think this is 0:18:53.800 --> 0:19:01.040 enough product plast month for for one episode, like a 0:19:01.040 --> 0:19:18.960 lot of different here's ads. Sure, why not? So the 0:19:19.040 --> 0:19:23.000 growth of the restaurant came the growth of the market. 0:19:23.080 --> 0:19:25.240 With the growth of the restaurant came the growth of 0:19:25.280 --> 0:19:29.560 the market. Needs that will you know, fulfilled either through 0:19:30.040 --> 0:19:33.000 a direct relationship of domination like between a lord or 0:19:33.000 --> 0:19:36.520 a king and his silvants, or a private relationship like 0:19:36.560 --> 0:19:39.399 within the family. They were now being fulfilled on the 0:19:39.440 --> 0:19:43.959 open market. It was once a direct oppressive relationship now 0:19:44.040 --> 0:19:48.320 became the relationship between bier and seller now became. It 0:19:48.560 --> 0:19:56.760 didn't direct oppressive, exactly, a diffused oppressive relationship foremost because 0:19:56.760 --> 0:19:58.440 no one post and I would say, you could really 0:19:58.640 --> 0:20:01.840 carry the blame. A similar expansion to the market to 0:20:01.960 --> 0:20:04.639 place over a century later with the rise of fast food, 0:20:05.119 --> 0:20:08.240 because as the nineteen fifties, housewife was on her way out, 0:20:08.720 --> 0:20:11.120 you know, being undermined, and as you know, women started 0:20:11.119 --> 0:20:13.720 to move into the open labor market, many of the 0:20:13.760 --> 0:20:17.160 tasks that were done by women traditionally were being transferred 0:20:17.160 --> 0:20:19.320 onto the market. Not to say that women still don't 0:20:19.680 --> 0:20:22.600 do the majority of care work in modern society, but 0:20:23.800 --> 0:20:27.440 as women started moving into the office into the workplace, 0:20:29.560 --> 0:20:34.840 things started to shift with regard to eating and eating patterns. 0:20:35.400 --> 0:20:37.919 An important point to notice that, of course, you know, 0:20:38.840 --> 0:20:42.480 the whole woman moving into the workplace thing is kind 0:20:42.520 --> 0:20:46.560 of a white woman phenomenon, because you know, people of color, 0:20:46.600 --> 0:20:51.280 women of color were in workplaces before then in large numbers. Yeah, 0:20:51.320 --> 0:20:52.879 And and there's there's a thing I think it's important 0:20:52.880 --> 0:20:55.680 to note here too, which is like part of what's 0:20:55.720 --> 0:20:59.920 happening here is that like some of the care labor 0:21:00.000 --> 0:21:02.160 the white women were doing gets transferred on to non 0:21:02.200 --> 0:21:03.680 white women. And this is this is this has been 0:21:03.720 --> 0:21:05.880 one of the things that like I think we talked 0:21:05.880 --> 0:21:07.560 about this a long time ago and an interview I 0:21:07.600 --> 0:21:10.440 did with it with a nurse. But like, like, for 0:21:10.440 --> 0:21:12.160 for example, you see this with healthcare a lot where 0:21:12.200 --> 0:21:14.680 like a lot of like union workers get these goods, 0:21:14.720 --> 0:21:16.640 you know, they get really good healthcare plans from the unions, 0:21:16.640 --> 0:21:19.520 but those healthcare plans are basically subsidized by not paying 0:21:19.600 --> 0:21:23.080 women of color like ship and there's this whole sort 0:21:23.119 --> 0:21:26.679 of like trend around this is sort of like like 0:21:27.119 --> 0:21:29.399 you can, you know, if if you're witching, if you're 0:21:29.480 --> 0:21:32.680 rich enough, you can escape housework. But you escape housework 0:21:32.720 --> 0:21:36.000 by essentially thrusting it on somewhe on someone else who's 0:21:36.040 --> 0:21:39.479 like further down the social ladder venue. Yeah, it's kind 0:21:39.480 --> 0:21:42.159 of like a form of that um phenomenon. People have 0:21:42.160 --> 0:21:45.160 been talking about the the idea of choice feminism, as 0:21:45.160 --> 0:21:47.520 in any choice that it wouldn't speak that a woman 0:21:47.560 --> 0:21:52.040 makes is parts of the feminist sort of movement. So 0:21:52.080 --> 0:21:56.560 I saw some discoos happened recent Dude. People are talking about, um, 0:21:56.680 --> 0:22:02.000 how oh one should have a right if she's a housewife, 0:22:02.040 --> 0:22:04.000 that she should still be able to, you know, pursue 0:22:04.000 --> 0:22:07.400 her interests, which is of course agreed, and the solution 0:22:07.480 --> 0:22:12.800 being proposed so that was that the man, the breadwinner, 0:22:13.640 --> 0:22:17.800 would pay for a domestic servants to come and work 0:22:17.840 --> 0:22:21.760 for the woman so that she can pursue her other responsibilities, 0:22:22.240 --> 0:22:24.560 her other interests and desires. And so it's just kind 0:22:24.560 --> 0:22:29.879 of this perfect what a close to license exactly because 0:22:29.920 --> 0:22:32.800 then this woman is working away from her family, and 0:22:32.840 --> 0:22:36.840 then you know it's just like this is a the 0:22:36.880 --> 0:22:44.440 massed up system. But yes, so, as fast food restaurants 0:22:44.440 --> 0:22:48.600 began to grow rapidly, people began being paid wages for 0:22:48.640 --> 0:22:52.600 what used to be housework. And of course, as we know, 0:22:53.320 --> 0:22:57.800 capitalism couldn't exist without the billions of dollars of unpaid 0:22:57.840 --> 0:23:05.840 labor that woman perform on a yearly basis. Modern restaurants 0:23:06.040 --> 0:23:11.040 emerged in the nineteenth century under specific conditions. They had 0:23:11.080 --> 0:23:15.520 to be businessmen with capital to invest in restaurants. They 0:23:15.520 --> 0:23:18.840 had to be customers who are expected to satisfy their 0:23:18.840 --> 0:23:20.959 need for food on the open market by buying it. 0:23:21.560 --> 0:23:23.919 And they had to be workers with no way to 0:23:23.960 --> 0:23:28.080 live but by working for someone else. As these conditions developed, 0:23:28.080 --> 0:23:33.800 as capitalism developed, sorted restaurants, and so at the root 0:23:33.880 --> 0:23:37.479 of this whole abolished restaurants discourse needs to be an 0:23:37.560 --> 0:23:41.879 understanding of where restaurants came from their historical development. You 0:23:41.920 --> 0:23:46.280 cannot take them in isolation and project them, like I said, 0:23:46.320 --> 0:23:50.000 across all of humanity, because it's only through understanding, through 0:23:50.119 --> 0:23:54.400 specific circumstances that we can transform it. As we transform 0:23:54.480 --> 0:23:57.359 society as a whole, as we were saying, you know, 0:23:57.440 --> 0:24:01.240 there's a lot of things that are health about restaurants, 0:24:02.040 --> 0:24:05.240 the way that work comes in like weaves and rushes, 0:24:05.400 --> 0:24:08.200 a lot of slow time in between. We either really 0:24:08.240 --> 0:24:11.360 stressed out the really bored. I remember working they had 0:24:11.359 --> 0:24:14.320 the winery and like for mostly day I just have 0:24:14.440 --> 0:24:19.760 to be like shifting around bottles on the shelves. I 0:24:19.800 --> 0:24:21.760 couldn't sit down and chill or be on my phone 0:24:21.800 --> 0:24:25.480 or anything. I just had to busy myself until a 0:24:25.520 --> 0:24:28.320 customer came. And Gus was never key because it was 0:24:28.359 --> 0:24:32.280 a field business propped up only by her parents money. 0:24:32.440 --> 0:24:34.840