1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:03,800 Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast 2 00:00:03,880 --> 00:00:04,640 Speaker 1: with iHeartRadio. 3 00:00:05,400 --> 00:00:08,039 Speaker 2: This is Almost Famous podcast. We're still in Carmel. We 4 00:00:08,200 --> 00:00:12,039 Speaker 2: have the wonderful beautiful Kathy with us. Kathy, you've promised 5 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:13,040 Speaker 2: us that there's nothing. 6 00:00:12,840 --> 00:00:13,560 Speaker 3: Off limits here. 7 00:00:13,760 --> 00:00:14,760 Speaker 4: Nothing off limits? 8 00:00:15,080 --> 00:00:17,919 Speaker 3: My goodness. Well that you said. 9 00:00:17,920 --> 00:00:19,880 Speaker 2: The only thing that was off limits is if I 10 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:21,959 Speaker 2: asked you when the last time you had sex was 11 00:00:22,840 --> 00:00:23,160 Speaker 2: and the. 12 00:00:23,160 --> 00:00:25,120 Speaker 4: Last time I had sex was? What day is it? 13 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:28,160 Speaker 3: This is Thursday? 14 00:00:29,360 --> 00:00:31,600 Speaker 4: It doesn't matter, it was before Thursday. 15 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:36,440 Speaker 2: Perfect, Kathy. I own to dive in, start hot, will 16 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:41,800 Speaker 2: end wherever we want. But little birdies around the world 17 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:44,880 Speaker 2: tell me that there is some drama within the Golden 18 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:46,000 Speaker 2: Bachelor world right now? 19 00:00:47,400 --> 00:00:49,640 Speaker 4: Really tell me more. 20 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:51,920 Speaker 2: Well, Twitter is firing up and your name's a part 21 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:57,000 Speaker 2: of it. Twitter you mean X yeah X sorry. Wow 22 00:00:57,400 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 2: that was good, Kathy. 23 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:03,680 Speaker 3: Jesus age me. My goodness, I keep up. 24 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:05,880 Speaker 2: So my question because if you want to go to 25 00:01:05,880 --> 00:01:08,280 Speaker 2: the details or specifics, we can. If not, no problem. 26 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:15,119 Speaker 2: My question is is there behind the scenes drama post show? 27 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:17,480 Speaker 2: Every season has it? People come off the show, they're 28 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:22,360 Speaker 2: best friends and then over time things start to like 29 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:23,280 Speaker 2: fall apart. 30 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 3: It happens every year. 31 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:32,200 Speaker 4: So you know, we're we were a group of fearless 32 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 4: women who took this on and I think, but the 33 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:41,399 Speaker 4: fact remains where all women and as time goes on, 34 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:45,560 Speaker 4: you get to know people better, and I think that's 35 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 4: just a natural part of life. But I can honestly 36 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:54,800 Speaker 4: say I am friends with everybody on the show. If 37 00:01:54,800 --> 00:02:00,360 Speaker 4: there's somebody particular that you're asking me about, I think 38 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:05,440 Speaker 4: that natural selection takes over. I am extremely close with 39 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:10,120 Speaker 4: Susan and Nancy and a bunch of us are getting 40 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:16,000 Speaker 4: together in a few weeks in DC and Philly and 41 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:18,640 Speaker 4: we're gonna have a great time. Nancy, Susan and I 42 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 4: just got back from Saint Martin and had a great time. 43 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:24,000 Speaker 4: Oh no, yeah, I might say that we did not 44 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:26,880 Speaker 4: leave that island in one piece. Yeah, but we had 45 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 4: a great time. So you know, I think, like any 46 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:33,800 Speaker 4: other season, when you have a bunch of women who 47 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:39,360 Speaker 4: are trying to date one man, things happen and people 48 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 4: aren't necessarily themselves. That's life, you know, it just it 49 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:47,839 Speaker 4: goes on. So teach me something then, Okay, I love 50 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:50,080 Speaker 4: to teach, So I'm an next teacher. 51 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:53,520 Speaker 2: You're you're coming off the season, there's obviously people now 52 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:58,239 Speaker 2: that see your friendships with others. There's a big group 53 00:02:58,280 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 2: of women, there's got to be a little jealousy if 54 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 2: there's not. If jealousy is not the right word, maybe 55 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:06,640 Speaker 2: it's envy. Maybe it's like, hey, I wish I was involved. 56 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:09,080 Speaker 4: But isn't that I think that's a natural emotion. I 57 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:14,760 Speaker 4: think that happens whether you're seven, seventeen, seventy. I think 58 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:21,000 Speaker 4: just the natural order of life. I've been. I am 59 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 4: extremely grateful. I've had some incredible opportunities, and I understand 60 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:30,800 Speaker 4: that other people, you know, maybe haven't had those opportunities. 61 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:39,080 Speaker 4: I think that that's normal, and I'm sorry if people 62 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:41,840 Speaker 4: feel that way, but I have to be honest for me. 63 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 4: As grateful as I am for every opportunity, I'm also 64 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:50,520 Speaker 4: really happy when I hear that other women from our 65 00:03:50,600 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 4: season have opportunities, and. 66 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:55,880 Speaker 3: So you don't. 67 00:03:56,720 --> 00:03:59,400 Speaker 2: Okay, So are you carrying the burden when you get 68 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:01,520 Speaker 2: asked to do something and you know that somebody else 69 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 2: maybe is going to be a little hurt that they 70 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:05,560 Speaker 2: didn't get asked. Are you carrying that burden with you 71 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:07,800 Speaker 2: or are you saying no, this is just something I 72 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 2: want to do because this is a great thing. 73 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 4: I think it's a combination. I am grateful and excited 74 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:20,280 Speaker 4: for the opportunity, but I'm also an empathetic that you know, 75 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:23,880 Speaker 4: so and so might feel badly that she didn't get 76 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 4: the opportunity to do it. But honestly, that can't stop 77 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:35,080 Speaker 4: me from doing what I'm doing. I never thought when 78 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:40,080 Speaker 4: I signed up for this, I really thought I was 79 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:41,960 Speaker 4: going on a show to find love, and I hoped 80 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:45,680 Speaker 4: I did. I didn't, But I've made so many great 81 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 4: friendships and I've had so many great opportunities, and I 82 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:52,479 Speaker 4: think it comes down to who you are as a 83 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 4: person and what opportunities come your way. Yeah, I really 84 00:04:58,680 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 4: believe that. 85 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:03,640 Speaker 2: So one of the best things about being post show 86 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:07,360 Speaker 2: and being able to do this show for years now 87 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 2: is getting the full story. Because I've always said and 88 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:18,279 Speaker 2: I stand by this still. People have gotten bad at its, 89 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:22,360 Speaker 2: but it's not it's not that common. Like people that 90 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:25,279 Speaker 2: become the villain or people that are really mean to others, 91 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 2: they're typically pretty like in my experience of being on 92 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:30,279 Speaker 2: the show, they are typically pretty mean to us, and 93 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:30,679 Speaker 2: they should. 94 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:32,160 Speaker 4: Are you saying that I'm mean? 95 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:36,560 Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, no, not at all. But then there's moments. 96 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:38,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, sure, you're not saying that. 97 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 3: No, okay, just wait, just checking. There's moments on the 98 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 3: show that. 99 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:49,520 Speaker 2: We see and because of the lack of drama surrounding it, 100 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:53,240 Speaker 2: they become dramatic on the show because they stand out 101 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:56,039 Speaker 2: like there's very you know, there's there's moments where you're like, 102 00:05:56,839 --> 00:05:59,040 Speaker 2: they just they need a little drama. 103 00:05:59,120 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 3: They pull from it. 104 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 2: So you were involved in the only drama of the 105 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:06,520 Speaker 2: season really with Teresa, who ends up winning. I know 106 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:09,040 Speaker 2: there's more of a story there, Like I know that 107 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 2: what we saw on television for those episodes or the episode, 108 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:17,360 Speaker 2: it was not as dramatic I'm assuming in real life. 109 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:20,840 Speaker 2: So the best of your ability, because it has been 110 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 2: a few months and I forget everything past the day before, 111 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 2: how did that actually play out in real time? Like 112 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:30,039 Speaker 2: what was that actually feeling like in real time? 113 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 4: So it was so much smaller than it really was. 114 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 4: You know, I'm while I live in Austin, I am 115 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:43,159 Speaker 4: from Boston. I live in rhyming cities and where I 116 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:46,920 Speaker 4: grew up. We just call it like it is. And 117 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 4: so there were a lot of women on the show. 118 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:52,120 Speaker 4: Remember that this all happened early in the show, very 119 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:54,719 Speaker 4: early very early, and there were a lot of women 120 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 4: sitting around saying, Wow, we haven't gotten a chance to 121 00:06:58,600 --> 00:07:01,880 Speaker 4: speak to Gary yet. And you know, I took it 122 00:07:01,920 --> 00:07:04,320 Speaker 4: because I'm a girl scout. I said, well, you know, 123 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:08,719 Speaker 4: I'll talk to her. I'll say something, never thinking that 124 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:12,160 Speaker 4: it was going to turn into this huge thing on TV. 125 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 4: But Teresa is a lovely person. We're gonna spend She's 126 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 4: one of the people that's coming to Philly. She's a 127 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:25,840 Speaker 4: lovely person. All of us only wish Gary and Teresa 128 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:30,600 Speaker 4: the best, including me. So I think that, you know, 129 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:32,240 Speaker 4: if you have to have drama on the show, you 130 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 4: have to have drama. But I think I think people 131 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 4: will make of it what they want to make of it. 132 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:44,760 Speaker 4: And I think I walk away with my head high 133 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 4: knowing I'm a good person and a nice person, and 134 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 4: you know, that's just part of the show. That's what 135 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 4: you sign up for. 136 00:07:52,080 --> 00:08:03,840 Speaker 3: Sure. In real time, you kind of fell in the 137 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:05,080 Speaker 3: sword to give, like. 138 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:09,120 Speaker 2: To a approach her, while everybody else is kind of like, hey, 139 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 2: I wish I was having time with Gary or I 140 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:14,440 Speaker 2: wish Teresa would have. You were like, I'll just do 141 00:08:14,480 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 2: it forebrity, so that this isn't going on. 142 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:16,720 Speaker 3: Behind your back. 143 00:08:16,800 --> 00:08:18,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, but not in a mean way. 144 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:20,960 Speaker 2: No, but you were just like, hey, instead of talking 145 00:08:20,960 --> 00:08:23,360 Speaker 2: about this in a circle, right, we can talk to 146 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:25,040 Speaker 2: her about it, like I feel good just saying, hey, 147 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:26,680 Speaker 2: Teresa going on. 148 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:29,800 Speaker 4: And it was nothing more than that. Yeah, and that's why, 149 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:33,000 Speaker 4: you know, Can I jump ahead to Joeys season here? Sure, 150 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:36,960 Speaker 4: let's just as I've said, Joey would be my son 151 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:40,280 Speaker 4: in law my daughter were not married. He's a great guy, 152 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 4: but his Maria. I felt for her because I didn't 153 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:50,080 Speaker 4: think she was doing anything badly, you know, saying anything 154 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:53,400 Speaker 4: out of She may have chosen a wrong word here 155 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:58,280 Speaker 4: or there, but she really was being supportive of Madina. 156 00:08:58,640 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 4: So Medina was saying that she was the oldest woman 157 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:06,480 Speaker 4: on the show, and I really felt like Maria was 158 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:11,040 Speaker 4: just trying to advocate for her and say, hey, it's okay. 159 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:13,720 Speaker 4: You know, he's a great guy. Your age doesn't matter. 160 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:17,440 Speaker 4: But it's sort of got turned around, and you know, 161 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:22,400 Speaker 4: I thought it was much ado about nothing to quote Shakespeare. Yeah, 162 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 4: and you know, I sort of felt for her because 163 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:30,760 Speaker 4: she was painted a villain where she really I mean, 164 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:33,200 Speaker 4: she may be a villain, but in that instance she 165 00:09:33,400 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 4: was not. 166 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 2: It happens when I think the marker for me and 167 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 2: being a fan of the show now, I think it 168 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:41,600 Speaker 2: happens to me, and it happened in your situation. When 169 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:45,520 Speaker 2: there's a lack of drama you have, they find the 170 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:48,840 Speaker 2: little bitsy things and it gets pulled out. Now, the 171 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:52,839 Speaker 2: problem with this is sometimes that little drama can turn 172 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:54,560 Speaker 2: into big drama because it kind of like is a 173 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:59,080 Speaker 2: tornado effect that sucks up everybody. Then everybody's like, hey, yeah, 174 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:03,800 Speaker 2: that wasn't right. I'm choosing sides here. I'm hoping in 175 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:06,600 Speaker 2: this season we were just talking about at dinner, right, 176 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:09,480 Speaker 2: I think the show for years went down a path 177 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:12,600 Speaker 2: of drama and it had to kind of evolve and 178 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:14,640 Speaker 2: how much drama was existing and more drama and more 179 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 2: drama and more drama. And I think it worked for 180 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:20,760 Speaker 2: many years. Obviously, the show's been around a while. I 181 00:10:20,800 --> 00:10:23,560 Speaker 2: personally feel like it ran its course and now, and 182 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:26,840 Speaker 2: especially with your season of the Golden it turned into 183 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:27,679 Speaker 2: more of a love story. 184 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:29,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think that's what people want. 185 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:32,320 Speaker 4: Ben, I was just going to say, I think that's 186 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:35,840 Speaker 4: what people want. They're looking you know, we've got a 187 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:40,840 Speaker 4: tough world right now, and people are looking for painted 188 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:46,800 Speaker 4: a happy story, painted an escape from everyday life. They're looking. 189 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 4: Everyone wants to believe in love. I still believe in love. 190 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:55,920 Speaker 4: So you know, the drama is or it isn't what 191 00:10:56,160 --> 00:11:01,080 Speaker 4: really goes on. But I think people want to believe 192 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:06,679 Speaker 4: that love is out there and that these women and 193 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:11,120 Speaker 4: these men can come together and find love. And who 194 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 4: doesn't want to believe in love? So you know, I don't. 195 00:11:14,559 --> 00:11:18,720 Speaker 4: I think that if there's drama, there's drama. But I 196 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:24,840 Speaker 4: also think that if it's not there, let's just celebrate love. 197 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:29,080 Speaker 3: Well, I think in within your situation and with. 198 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:30,280 Speaker 2: You and the women, and I've been able to be 199 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:34,040 Speaker 2: around you all a couple of times. Now there's something 200 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:36,199 Speaker 2: to learn from you all because you have came out 201 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:38,480 Speaker 2: of this and said, hey, really happy for Teresa and Gary, 202 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:39,960 Speaker 2: like we want to see them thrive. We went to 203 00:11:39,960 --> 00:11:41,599 Speaker 2: the wedding, you know, you had a huge role in 204 00:11:41,640 --> 00:11:45,160 Speaker 2: the wedding. Yeah, but also, we're going to be friends 205 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:47,160 Speaker 2: after this. We're gonna say we're gonna go on vacations together, 206 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:50,920 Speaker 2: We're going to see each other. Because for me, that's 207 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:53,599 Speaker 2: as much of a cool part of the show is 208 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:55,479 Speaker 2: when you see that coming back together. 209 00:11:55,320 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 4: Best part of the show, Ben is, let's just look 210 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:02,120 Speaker 4: at this, you know, really simplistically, you had in our 211 00:12:02,160 --> 00:12:06,400 Speaker 4: case twenty two women and one man. If my math 212 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:10,920 Speaker 4: serves me right, unless we're talking polygamy, only one woman's 213 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:13,960 Speaker 4: walking away with the guy, and as it should be. 214 00:12:14,920 --> 00:12:19,640 Speaker 4: But we gained so much more great friendships and understanding 215 00:12:19,679 --> 00:12:24,240 Speaker 4: of people's life story. And for me, as we spoke 216 00:12:24,280 --> 00:12:28,360 Speaker 4: at dinner, I think for me, the biggest joy for 217 00:12:28,480 --> 00:12:33,000 Speaker 4: me not the friendships are amazing, but the biggest joy 218 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:38,480 Speaker 4: is people stopping me and saying, you know, my husband 219 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:42,839 Speaker 4: passed away a year ago or whatever the story is, 220 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:47,480 Speaker 4: and we sit and you made us laugh. You gave 221 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:51,280 Speaker 4: us hope for the future. And that is the message 222 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:55,480 Speaker 4: that the rest of it doesn't matter. The rest of 223 00:12:55,480 --> 00:12:59,319 Speaker 4: it doesn't matter. If people see that their life isn't 224 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:04,240 Speaker 4: over it sixty or sixty five or seventy, that they 225 00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:07,800 Speaker 4: have things to look forward to. I celebrate that as 226 00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:09,719 Speaker 4: a huge success for this franchise. 227 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:14,120 Speaker 3: Well, there was a segment of The. 228 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:17,720 Speaker 2: Golden that I was on that never got aired, and 229 00:13:17,760 --> 00:13:19,000 Speaker 2: it was Gary and I went to a bunch of 230 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:23,120 Speaker 2: watch parties around La and one of the watch parties 231 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:26,960 Speaker 2: stands out to me where a lady in her seventies 232 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:31,240 Speaker 2: came up and said her husband had just passed two 233 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:34,120 Speaker 2: years ago and she was kind of lost. The world 234 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:36,760 Speaker 2: was spinning around her. She didn't where to turn, and 235 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:39,839 Speaker 2: she said watching the Golden gave her hope, and she 236 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:43,040 Speaker 2: started crying shed Watching the show gave her hope because 237 00:13:43,080 --> 00:13:45,679 Speaker 2: she feels like she could relate. And I think that's 238 00:13:45,960 --> 00:13:48,920 Speaker 2: from one of the best things that the show did 239 00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:50,559 Speaker 2: for people, gave people hope. We just walked out of 240 00:13:50,559 --> 00:13:52,760 Speaker 2: the restaurant together and there was a lady and her 241 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:54,000 Speaker 2: husband that came out to you and they gave you 242 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:56,400 Speaker 2: like a little like a fist pump, like well done. 243 00:13:56,520 --> 00:13:57,719 Speaker 3: You know you're doing it. 244 00:13:58,400 --> 00:14:00,480 Speaker 2: What does that feel like to you to be somebody 245 00:14:00,559 --> 00:14:04,680 Speaker 2: that was had a piece, a large piece in building 246 00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:09,800 Speaker 2: this new thing that is giving people around the US hope. 247 00:14:10,040 --> 00:14:15,400 Speaker 4: Honestly, I didn't expect, as most people know. Now. You know, 248 00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:17,760 Speaker 4: my husband passed away. It's coming up on five years 249 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:26,040 Speaker 4: ago and he died by suicide. And I never thought 250 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:30,640 Speaker 4: that my life would be where it is. But to me, 251 00:14:30,880 --> 00:14:34,760 Speaker 4: the biggest gift that this show has given to me 252 00:14:35,920 --> 00:14:39,080 Speaker 4: is the gift I've given to other people that they 253 00:14:39,160 --> 00:14:41,680 Speaker 4: have hope in their lives and they don't see their 254 00:14:41,720 --> 00:14:45,200 Speaker 4: lives as they don't feel invisible anymore. They feel like 255 00:14:45,280 --> 00:14:49,840 Speaker 4: they have life to live. And to me, I didn't 256 00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:54,320 Speaker 4: expect that. I didn't know that that was something that 257 00:14:54,840 --> 00:14:57,600 Speaker 4: I would get from the show. But to me, that 258 00:14:57,800 --> 00:15:02,120 Speaker 4: is the biggest gift that this show has given to me, 259 00:15:02,720 --> 00:15:06,480 Speaker 4: the other women and to women and men out there 260 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:10,840 Speaker 4: and you, I don't know that. I don't know that 261 00:15:11,960 --> 00:15:15,040 Speaker 4: any other show has done that, not that I can 262 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:19,080 Speaker 4: think it. And to me that that's life changing, that 263 00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:22,120 Speaker 4: it's life changing for so many people. It gives me 264 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:25,240 Speaker 4: great joy. It's worth all of it. It's worth all 265 00:15:25,240 --> 00:15:25,520 Speaker 4: of it. 266 00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:29,000 Speaker 2: So when you went onto the show then, as you're saying, 267 00:15:29,640 --> 00:15:32,360 Speaker 2: your husband passed away five years ago, yeah, you went 268 00:15:32,400 --> 00:15:32,960 Speaker 2: on the show. 269 00:15:33,320 --> 00:15:35,040 Speaker 3: Nobody really knew it was going to be right. He 270 00:15:35,400 --> 00:15:36,000 Speaker 3: took a risk. 271 00:15:37,160 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 2: When you walked into the mansion, were you living in 272 00:15:41,560 --> 00:15:44,160 Speaker 2: a season of life where you felt like you had hope? 273 00:15:44,240 --> 00:15:45,960 Speaker 2: Or this show help you in return? 274 00:15:46,040 --> 00:15:51,280 Speaker 4: Also, I mean I was really busy watching Teresa in 275 00:15:51,320 --> 00:15:55,120 Speaker 4: a slip and Leslie with a wig on on a walker, 276 00:15:55,760 --> 00:15:57,680 Speaker 4: so you know, I was trying to focus on all 277 00:15:57,720 --> 00:15:59,840 Speaker 4: that and like, am I in the wrong place? But 278 00:16:00,840 --> 00:16:06,240 Speaker 4: truly I walked in there thinking, you know what I 279 00:16:06,280 --> 00:16:09,520 Speaker 4: deserve love, I deserve a second chance. This is the 280 00:16:09,600 --> 00:16:11,560 Speaker 4: last chapter of my life. It's going to be a 281 00:16:11,600 --> 00:16:12,760 Speaker 4: really long chapter, by. 282 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:17,000 Speaker 2: The way, but I was a very busy chapterwhere very busy. 283 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:21,360 Speaker 4: But I walked in there thinking why not me, and 284 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:25,960 Speaker 4: never thinking that it would turn out the way it did. 285 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:29,240 Speaker 4: And I think if you asked most of the women 286 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:32,880 Speaker 4: of the twenty two women, I think they would say 287 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:37,680 Speaker 4: the same thing that we didn't know. The hearing all 288 00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:42,800 Speaker 4: of our stories and building the relationships and supporting each 289 00:16:42,840 --> 00:16:46,560 Speaker 4: other through it, that to me was life changing. 290 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:57,920 Speaker 5: Hey, folks, Amy and TJ. Here, Matt James of Bachelor 291 00:16:58,080 --> 00:17:00,440 Speaker 5: Nation is our guest on the next episode of the 292 00:17:00,480 --> 00:17:01,720 Speaker 5: Amy and TJ podcast. 293 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:04,760 Speaker 1: That's right, everybody wants to know if and when he 294 00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:06,800 Speaker 1: and Rachel will finally get married. Well, he's going to 295 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:09,399 Speaker 1: fill us in on the destination wedding. 296 00:17:09,600 --> 00:17:13,120 Speaker 5: Also, he'll talk about his heartbreak over a fellow Bachelor 297 00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:16,320 Speaker 5: Nation alum. Also, I'll talk about his fantasy relationship with 298 00:17:16,400 --> 00:17:18,119 Speaker 5: Chris Harrison and would you believe this dude tried to 299 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:21,880 Speaker 5: blame me and Roeboch for missing a very important weekend 300 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:22,760 Speaker 5: with Rachel. 301 00:17:22,800 --> 00:17:23,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, Rachel, it wasn't us. 302 00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:25,560 Speaker 1: We want to make sure you know that this is 303 00:17:25,600 --> 00:17:28,560 Speaker 1: a rare and it's an extensive conversation with Matt James 304 00:17:28,760 --> 00:17:32,480 Speaker 1: February eighth, on Amy and TJ everywhere you get your podcasts. 305 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:37,320 Speaker 3: You know, my story from the show is this. 306 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:39,879 Speaker 2: I went on to it with a very little confidence, 307 00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:44,240 Speaker 2: feeling very much like an outsider. This show didn't really 308 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:46,000 Speaker 2: help that because I walked into a room full of 309 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:51,640 Speaker 2: like professional athletes and doctors and felt even more pushed aside. 310 00:17:52,119 --> 00:17:54,000 Speaker 2: And the show gave me a lot of confidence. It 311 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:57,399 Speaker 2: allowed me to open up, allowed me to feel desirable, 312 00:17:57,560 --> 00:18:01,199 Speaker 2: made me allow me to speak some truth that I 313 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:02,800 Speaker 2: never had spoken to myself before. 314 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:06,240 Speaker 3: For you, when you. 315 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:08,399 Speaker 2: Signed up, or when I guess maybe in general, with 316 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:09,720 Speaker 2: a lot of the women that were on your season, 317 00:18:09,720 --> 00:18:12,119 Speaker 2: did you feel like there was like a lack of 318 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:14,520 Speaker 2: hope or did all these women come in saying, no, 319 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:16,720 Speaker 2: we're gonna this is gonna be good no matter what. 320 00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:20,760 Speaker 4: I don't know what they were thinking, but what I 321 00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:24,879 Speaker 4: was thinking was online dating hadn't worked, you know, why not? 322 00:18:25,080 --> 00:18:28,600 Speaker 4: It would be an adventure, but I got I have 323 00:18:28,640 --> 00:18:31,119 Speaker 4: to be honest. When I walked in there and saw 324 00:18:31,600 --> 00:18:35,760 Speaker 4: half of those women around sixty years of age, I thought, 325 00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:39,760 Speaker 4: I'm screwed. I mean, you know, that's hard to compete 326 00:18:40,320 --> 00:18:45,000 Speaker 4: with with that age group. But I think what I 327 00:18:45,080 --> 00:18:51,800 Speaker 4: think the difference between the older crowd and the younger 328 00:18:52,840 --> 00:18:57,320 Speaker 4: Bachelor and batsorettes is that we've lived a full life. 329 00:18:57,400 --> 00:19:00,439 Speaker 4: And I am not going to hang my head at 330 00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:03,639 Speaker 4: on you know, I'm not going to come crying. I 331 00:19:03,680 --> 00:19:07,119 Speaker 4: didn't get a one on one. He doesn't really like 332 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:14,320 Speaker 4: we have lived so much of life that were we 333 00:19:14,600 --> 00:19:21,000 Speaker 4: come into with open hearts, but not being chosen we don't. 334 00:19:21,119 --> 00:19:24,560 Speaker 4: I didn't judge myself by not being chosen by Gary. 335 00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:28,080 Speaker 4: He's a great guy. He wasn't my guy. There's nothing 336 00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:31,240 Speaker 4: more or less to it than that, and truly we 337 00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:36,160 Speaker 4: all wished him and and Theresa a boatload of happiness. 338 00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:38,639 Speaker 4: I think he made the right choice. Yeah, there was 339 00:19:38,680 --> 00:19:44,600 Speaker 4: no Really, we're being honest. Gary, if you're listening, you 340 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:45,280 Speaker 4: could have had me. 341 00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:50,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, could have could A really final question for you. 342 00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:57,239 Speaker 2: It's a very broad question. But looking back now in 343 00:19:57,280 --> 00:19:59,720 Speaker 2: this season and knowing what it meant for so many 344 00:19:59,800 --> 00:20:02,920 Speaker 2: who watched and so many who participated in for Gary 345 00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:07,159 Speaker 2: and Teresa, who then ended up together. If you're an 346 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:10,600 Speaker 2: executive producer on the show, was there anything Is there 347 00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:13,640 Speaker 2: anything you would have changed? Or as they looked towards 348 00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:15,800 Speaker 2: the new seasons coming ahead, is there anything that you 349 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:17,840 Speaker 2: wish they added more of or less of? 350 00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:23,280 Speaker 4: So we were Trailblazers and it was a truncated season. 351 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:29,280 Speaker 4: I think it's a combination of wanting people to want 352 00:20:29,359 --> 00:20:32,320 Speaker 4: more so you can only have it so long. But 353 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:36,160 Speaker 4: at the same time, I almost feel like there wasn't 354 00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:41,160 Speaker 4: enough time to tell our stories and there weren't enough 355 00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:44,199 Speaker 4: one on one date. I mean, it was very in 356 00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:46,920 Speaker 4: this case Gary. It was so clear from the beginning 357 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:51,199 Speaker 4: that Gary was so attracted to Teresa. We all saw it, 358 00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:54,399 Speaker 4: we all felt it, you know, and that's great. But 359 00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:58,520 Speaker 4: I wish that there had been more opportunity for more 360 00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:05,879 Speaker 4: interactions with us and Gary. And but that's just a 361 00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:10,240 Speaker 4: time thing, you know. It's I think it was the 362 00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:13,280 Speaker 4: first run, and I think they'll make some changes. I 363 00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:16,680 Speaker 4: mean I really wanted a helicopter ride. Yeah, I didn't 364 00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:19,359 Speaker 4: get it. I mean I wanted the diamond earrings that 365 00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:22,280 Speaker 4: Ellen got, I didn't get them. I wanted the pink 366 00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:25,840 Speaker 4: quarts that Susan got, I didn't get it. I left 367 00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:30,280 Speaker 4: with nothing except a rose that I a rubber flower 368 00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:32,840 Speaker 4: that I stole from the bar. It is sitting in 369 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:33,800 Speaker 4: my kitchen. 370 00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:36,119 Speaker 3: And a live television hosting gig okay, and there. 371 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:39,040 Speaker 4: Was that which I would do that again in a heartbeat. 372 00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:40,520 Speaker 4: That was amazing. 373 00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:43,280 Speaker 3: I do think there's be some changes moving forward. I 374 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:43,800 Speaker 3: think it's great. 375 00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:45,960 Speaker 2: I think they'll get more time on air, which is 376 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:48,480 Speaker 2: going to be helpful. I think they'll get more time. 377 00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:51,080 Speaker 4: You know what about ages? Do you? What do you 378 00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:52,040 Speaker 4: think about the ages? 379 00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:53,399 Speaker 3: I think it was great, So. 380 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:58,160 Speaker 4: I will tell you many of the women think that 381 00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:00,400 Speaker 4: Golden means sixty five and over. 382 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:02,440 Speaker 3: Okay, so sixty was too young? 383 00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:07,600 Speaker 4: Well, from where I sit, sixty five was too young, okay. 384 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:10,840 Speaker 2: But I could I could go like I think, I 385 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:14,200 Speaker 2: look at it as like you you, sixty five would 386 00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:16,600 Speaker 2: be great, like if sixty five and over. I think 387 00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:18,199 Speaker 2: the problem is the casting of it. I think it's 388 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:20,360 Speaker 2: gonna be hard to get people women. I don't think 389 00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:22,400 Speaker 2: no women men. I think it's gonna be really hard 390 00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:25,040 Speaker 2: from the cast for men. I don't know how many 391 00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:27,280 Speaker 2: men will sign up at sixty five years. 392 00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:29,440 Speaker 4: I actually agree with you. I think that's a problem. 393 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:32,680 Speaker 4: A lot of people have asked me, Kathy, would you 394 00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:35,720 Speaker 4: be the Golden Bachelorette? And I say it jokingly, but 395 00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:38,600 Speaker 4: I actually mean it. I think it would be hard 396 00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:41,360 Speaker 4: to find. And I'm seventy. Yeah, I think it would 397 00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:43,239 Speaker 4: be hard to find twenty two guys who could keep 398 00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:45,360 Speaker 4: up with me. So I mean it, So. 399 00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:47,840 Speaker 3: I believe it. I have no doubt. 400 00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:50,440 Speaker 4: So you know, I think that that would be tough. 401 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:55,520 Speaker 4: So I understand the casting issues, but there have to 402 00:22:55,560 --> 00:23:01,120 Speaker 4: be men out there who are looking for love an adventure, 403 00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:04,000 Speaker 4: and that's sort of what this is about. It's about 404 00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:07,920 Speaker 4: finding love but putting yourself in a situation that maybe 405 00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:12,320 Speaker 4: makes you a little uncomfortable, but the rewards are so 406 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:12,920 Speaker 4: worth it. 407 00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:15,440 Speaker 2: Well, I think also the side is the other side 408 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:18,080 Speaker 2: of that too, is you want to find men who 409 00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:23,400 Speaker 2: are vulnerable enough at sixty five to share their stories, because, 410 00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:26,119 Speaker 2: as you said earlier, you've lived a lot of life. 411 00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:28,320 Speaker 2: You have a lot of stories to share. You have 412 00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:30,639 Speaker 2: a lot of stories that would relate with others, that 413 00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:33,359 Speaker 2: would give hope to others. I think it will be 414 00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:36,160 Speaker 2: hard to find men who are willing to share their 415 00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:39,640 Speaker 2: stories in a way like you all did that would 416 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:40,720 Speaker 2: bring people into it. 417 00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:42,800 Speaker 4: But don't you think that's sort of a cultural thing 418 00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:46,679 Speaker 4: that men struggle to open their hearts and their mouths 419 00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:48,879 Speaker 4: to talk about what they're really their emotions are. 420 00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:50,560 Speaker 2: I agree with you, But I think that's one of 421 00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:52,119 Speaker 2: the hardest things. Is then who are you going to 422 00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:55,440 Speaker 2: find that would break the barriers? And you all did. 423 00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:58,840 Speaker 2: You shared your stories, and you shared your stories through tears, 424 00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:00,240 Speaker 2: you shared your stories through. 425 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:00,760 Speaker 3: Through a smile. 426 00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:02,600 Speaker 2: You shared your stories with the others so they felt 427 00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:06,040 Speaker 2: less alone, and that was a really beautiful thing from 428 00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:09,520 Speaker 2: the show. But I think moving forward, one of the 429 00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:12,800 Speaker 2: dynamics it's going to be very interesting, and I would 430 00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:14,760 Speaker 2: believe that they could find the people that could pull 431 00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:17,120 Speaker 2: it off. Will be Are they able to find enough 432 00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:19,480 Speaker 2: men who could do the same thing like you all 433 00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:21,280 Speaker 2: did and keep this momentum going. 434 00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:23,960 Speaker 4: I don't disagree with that, And in fact, as much 435 00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:26,639 Speaker 4: as I hate to say this, in some ways, I 436 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:31,240 Speaker 4: think it would be great to have another Golden Bachelor, Yeah, 437 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:37,760 Speaker 4: just to reinforce the message that because I think men 438 00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:42,200 Speaker 4: and women took the message of hope it wasn't just women. 439 00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:46,399 Speaker 4: And besides that, all these guys that are replying are 440 00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:48,280 Speaker 4: going to slide into my DMS anyway. 441 00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:50,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, so you know, the more the merrier. 442 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:52,119 Speaker 4: It's going to really shorten that list. 443 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:54,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, you're going to be very busy. 444 00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:56,840 Speaker 4: Very busy, My goodness. When I'm not holding a microphone 445 00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:58,760 Speaker 4: in my hand doing something else, I'm going to be 446 00:24:58,760 --> 00:24:59,320 Speaker 4: you know, going to. 447 00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:02,239 Speaker 3: Travel the same. You're going to be very busy day. 448 00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:06,000 Speaker 4: Can I just tell you? Yeah, Saint Martin, I'm not 449 00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:08,560 Speaker 4: sure will ever be the same after Susan, Nancy and 450 00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:09,040 Speaker 4: I were there. 451 00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:11,240 Speaker 2: Give me one story as we close up from Saint 452 00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:16,480 Speaker 2: Martin that can be rated anything from G to. 453 00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:20,480 Speaker 3: X that you could share on air. 454 00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:29,359 Speaker 4: Okay, let me ask Kathy may be struggling here for 455 00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:36,639 Speaker 4: let me just say Susan, Nancy and I on the beach. 456 00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:40,720 Speaker 4: First of all, Susan had trouble keeping her bathing suit 457 00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:41,080 Speaker 4: top on. 458 00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:44,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, she just happens in St. Martin. 459 00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:47,080 Speaker 4: I've been not for me, it doesn't trust me. I 460 00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:49,040 Speaker 4: wore a one piece d have to applied it off 461 00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:51,680 Speaker 4: with a hammer nails, so that was not coming off. 462 00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:56,320 Speaker 4: But the thing that happened in Saint Martin that actually 463 00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:59,919 Speaker 4: blew my mind. People came up to us speaking different 464 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:04,920 Speaker 4: languages literally Canadians who say a lot a a lot 465 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:10,240 Speaker 4: but speak English, French, Italians saying how much they loved us. 466 00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:14,080 Speaker 3: It was crazy, were the tops on at this point? 467 00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:16,720 Speaker 4: Susans wasn't yeah, mine was. 468 00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:18,800 Speaker 3: Let me assure you not shocked. I've been around her 469 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:19,760 Speaker 3: enough now I'm not shocked. 470 00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:22,520 Speaker 4: I mean, Susans like, why not tan every part of 471 00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:24,440 Speaker 4: your body that you can? And I'm like, how many 472 00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:31,240 Speaker 4: reasons do you want? But that we met so many 473 00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:34,719 Speaker 4: great people. We bought friendship bracelets while we were there, yea. 474 00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:39,040 Speaker 4: And the guy at the jewelry store, he just took 475 00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:41,880 Speaker 4: an immediate liking to us. He kept filling our glasses 476 00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:45,800 Speaker 4: with champagne. The more we drank, the cheaper the bracelets became. 477 00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:47,919 Speaker 4: It was perfect. And then he took us out for 478 00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:53,800 Speaker 4: dinner at this incredible restaurant that's booked forever, and this 479 00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:58,000 Speaker 4: guy walks in and they are falling all over him, 480 00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:01,560 Speaker 4: and he it was I mean, the guy says, you're 481 00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:04,760 Speaker 4: family now, and of course Susan and I were saying, 482 00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:05,960 Speaker 4: are you available? 483 00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:06,480 Speaker 3: Yeah? 484 00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:07,320 Speaker 4: Wee's your father. 485 00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:13,679 Speaker 2: My goodness, okay, didn't was there any like anybody make 486 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:15,879 Speaker 2: have any kissing on this like? 487 00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:18,320 Speaker 3: There was there any guys in the picture on this trip? 488 00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:25,159 Speaker 4: I gotta say no, there weren't. Because the three of 489 00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:28,360 Speaker 4: us together we're sort of like a tornado going through 490 00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:32,280 Speaker 4: the island and a lot of people recognize us, and 491 00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:35,359 Speaker 4: again we're like, you, guys, you just made us feel great. 492 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:39,680 Speaker 4: And literally, Susan and I and Nancy, we'd say, so 493 00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:41,639 Speaker 4: is your uncle, here? Is your father here? Do you 494 00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:44,200 Speaker 4: know any single? Because that's what everyone keeps saying. Put 495 00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:45,439 Speaker 4: it out there that you're single. 496 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:48,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean we can be My advice for people. 497 00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:51,719 Speaker 4: Still, we tattooed the island we are single. 498 00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:55,480 Speaker 3: The world's not ready for these golden ladies. 499 00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:59,360 Speaker 4: But you know what, the world is ready because we 500 00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:03,800 Speaker 4: are re defining what it means to be golden. It 501 00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:07,320 Speaker 4: does not mean sitting in a rocking chair with an 502 00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:11,359 Speaker 4: afghan over your shoulders. Knit one pearl one, get up 503 00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:14,720 Speaker 4: off the sofa, find something to do that you love, 504 00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:17,160 Speaker 4: and just watch how your life changes. 505 00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:19,840 Speaker 3: Kathy, thanks for sitting down with us today. 506 00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:20,880 Speaker 4: You're so welcome. 507 00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:21,760 Speaker 3: You're the best. 508 00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:25,760 Speaker 4: It was grand follow the ben and Ashley I Almost 509 00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:30,080 Speaker 4: Famous podcast on iHeartRadio or subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts.