Speaker 1: Hey, they're folks, did It's Thursday, February twenty six and shocker,
Speaker 1: some Epstein files are missing. But there are three in
Speaker 1: particular that are missing that has got Democrats seething. It's
Speaker 1: got the Trump administration defending and quite frankly, robes. None
Speaker 1: of us should be surprised by this. And with that,
Speaker 1: welcome to this episode of Amy and TJ. The three
Speaker 1: files missing have to do with President Trump, robes, and
Speaker 1: some pretty awful accusations being made by a woman.
Speaker 2: That's right, a woman who is now, yes, a woman,
Speaker 2: but claims these allegations of abuse by Jeffrey Epstein and yes,
Speaker 2: by President Trump. She claims happened when she was just
Speaker 2: thirteen years old. So these are damning and dis disturbing
Speaker 2: allegations and made even more so by the fact that
Speaker 2: they are missing.
Speaker 1: Okay, so we should start at the top with these
Speaker 1: are claims. They're not substantiated, and we don't have any
Speaker 1: idea about the credibility of them. And at this point
Speaker 1: President Trump is not facing any criminal accusations. He's not
Speaker 1: facing any criminal charges, all right, we got that out
Speaker 1: of the way. He has forever denied any wrongdoing. However, Robes. Now,
Speaker 1: let's go to why this is such a big deal
Speaker 1: Epstein files. We know the tropes, documents have been coming out,
Speaker 1: there are arguments about redactions and back and forth. Is
Speaker 1: everything out there? Fine, let's get away from all that
Speaker 1: for a second and just focus on this thing. A
Speaker 1: part of these files, Robes whereas an interview done with
Speaker 1: a woman in twenty nineteen who came forward after Epstein
Speaker 1: was arrested and said, oh, yeah, that's the guy who
Speaker 1: assaulted me when I was younger. She starts piecing things together.
Speaker 1: The FBI goes and interviews her at les four interviews.
Speaker 1: We know that we're done with her. The FBI file
Speaker 1: on those four interviews, well, three of them are missing
Speaker 1: and we only get one. So Robes, the focus is
Speaker 1: why are those other three missing? And the implication is
Speaker 1: that she said something about Trump and those other three
Speaker 1: and that's why it's missing. This is where we are,
Speaker 1: yes correct.
Speaker 2: And in addition to those three separate conversations, NBR did
Speaker 2: a whole investigation. You know, they have a slew of
Speaker 2: reporters and they can actually tell there are missing numbers.
Speaker 2: They actually have serial numbers and they can say, hey,
Speaker 2: there are missing sets of documents based on serial numbers
Speaker 2: going through all of this, and notably those three documents
Speaker 2: are missing. Now, this woman claims that this assault happened
Speaker 2: in Hiltonhead Island when she was thirteen, and yes, the
Speaker 2: FBI did four separate interviews with her. And why that's
Speaker 2: important is from reporters who have gone through all of
Speaker 2: these documents. For the FBI to go back to this
Speaker 2: woman three times after that initial interview suggests that there
Speaker 2: was credibility to her story. They say that this is
Speaker 2: something significant. Now when you know that three of those interviews,
Speaker 2: which they claim some people claim to have seen already
Speaker 2: because some of this was a part of discovery information
Speaker 2: in the Galaine Maxwell trial. This is all very confusing,
Speaker 2: But there are people who have seen these documents who
Speaker 2: can now say they existed, we know the contents of them,
Speaker 2: and now they're missing. And the reason why they're missing,
Speaker 2: some folks claim, is because those contents contain significant and
Speaker 2: serious allegations against Trump.
Speaker 1: So we don't know where they are, we don't know
Speaker 1: why they're missing. There could be a very simple explanation
Speaker 1: for this, and oversight. Look, there's a lot of documents
Speaker 1: we're talking about millions of documents and something isn't matching
Speaker 1: up right now, and something is missing. To the point, now,
Speaker 1: whereas I couldn't believe the word investigation was being thrown around,
Speaker 1: they now want an investigation into why these are missing.
Speaker 1: This whole thing is an Epstein investigation. Now we're investigating
Speaker 1: the investigation.
Speaker 2: Yes, it's actually a parallel investigation. So Democrats on the
Speaker 2: House Oversight Committee who are heading up this Epstein investigation,
Speaker 2: they already have an investigation into those specific allegations we're
Speaker 2: referencing by that woman from South Carolina who claims this
Speaker 2: all happened when she was thirteen. But now they're adding
Speaker 2: a parallel investigation into why. Yes, these files, these interviews,
Speaker 2: these memos and notes from FBI investigators are missing. And
Speaker 2: specifically we heard from California Representative Robert Garcia who spoke
Speaker 2: to reporters and he said, there is definitely, in my opinion,
Speaker 2: evidence of a cover up happening. Why are these documents missing?
Speaker 2: These documents I personally saw, I know who the survivor is.
Speaker 2: The name is redacted in the doc in the manifest document,
Speaker 2: and there are documents missing from that same survivor that
Speaker 2: appeared to be interviews or conversations again with the FBI.
Speaker 2: The FBI clearly investigated, and now those documents are gone.
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, here we are now once again we
Speaker 1: have to be careful here and be clear. This is
Speaker 1: of course a lot of politics and a lot of
Speaker 1: back and forth, and then you have a lot of
Speaker 1: folks on the other side, victims who are saying that well,
Speaker 1: quite frankly, there are cover ups, and there are other
Speaker 1: men who are implicated and folks who need to be
Speaker 1: held accountable, and a lot of people want to point
Speaker 1: at President Trump. However, we need to again this is
Speaker 1: something you got to be very, very careful with when
Speaker 1: you're talking about someone accusing the president of the United
Speaker 1: States of one of some most heinous stuff you will
Speaker 1: ever hear. You gotta be careful in this, and I
Speaker 1: don't think Democrats care about being careful. But some of
Speaker 1: the things that are saying are suggestions and implications of
Speaker 1: something that Trump did, but frankly, there's no evidence of it.
Speaker 1: So it's it's a very delicate and very careful balance
Speaker 1: here with when Democrats are, hey, something's missing, so it
Speaker 1: must be something going on here. That's just the headline
Speaker 1: folks right now, ropes are running with that youve got
Speaker 1: to be very very careful of.
Speaker 2: In this case, Yes, because the Justice Department was very
Speaker 2: swift in their response, saying, as we have always said,
Speaker 2: all documents responsive were produced. Those not fall within one
Speaker 2: of the following categories. So this is the reason why
Speaker 2: they say certain documents weren't included in the document dump.
Speaker 2: If they fell into one of these categories, they were
Speaker 2: either duplicates, they were privileged, or they were part of
Speaker 2: an ongoing federal investigation. So they also said that in
Speaker 2: terms of specifically these missing files, they're reviewing the documents
Speaker 2: that were released in connection to the index. The point
Speaker 2: is people point to the index, they can see these
Speaker 2: interviews occurred, they can see that there were documents produced,
Speaker 2: and then they're missing. So they say, the Department said
Speaker 2: it will publish any documents that may now be found
Speaker 2: to have been improperly tagged in the review process that
Speaker 2: are legally required to be made public. So they're going back,
Speaker 2: they say, and they're going to reassess what they chose
Speaker 2: not to include based on those categories. And that's it,
Speaker 2: because they cannot not release documents just because it could
Speaker 2: publicly embarrass someone that's not allowed.
Speaker 1: The Epstein Files mess continues. We are hearing from the
Speaker 1: White House, you know, they had something to say about this.
Speaker 1: Stay here, we'll explain how the administration is responding to
Speaker 1: these new missing claims.
Speaker 3: Stay here, all.
Speaker 1: Right, folks, We'll continue here on this AM and TJ
Speaker 1: on this Thursday, February twenty sixth with it's never going
Speaker 1: to be over, Robes. It's never the Epstein files mess
Speaker 1: will never be over the middle of it again. I
Speaker 1: don't even remember the date when they were all supposed
Speaker 1: to be out last November was it or December? All
Speaker 1: the five it was December. Why do I just have
Speaker 1: nineteenth in my head? All the files are supposed to
Speaker 1: be out by that day. They've been trickling out, trickling out,
Speaker 1: trickling out, and every time they trickle out, somebody has
Speaker 1: a complaint. That's not everything. This name's not in there,
Speaker 1: and where's the real list and all of these things.
Speaker 1: So here we go once again, Robes. And we shouldn't
Speaker 1: be surprised. There are news organizations have figured out there
Speaker 1: are certain documents that are missing. There are plenty of
Speaker 1: documents that are probably missing and haven't been put out there.
Speaker 1: These they'll have to do specifically with the president of
Speaker 1: the United States, and some pretty horrific accusations at least
Speaker 1: that were made by a woman back in twenty nineteen,
Speaker 1: having to do with her saying she was sexually assaulted
Speaker 1: by Epstein repeatedly and by President Trump, not President then,
Speaker 1: but this was back in the eighties. But the interviews
Speaker 1: that the FBI did in which she laid out these accusations,
Speaker 1: the details of those interviews is laid out by the
Speaker 1: FBI in memos. Those memos, those documents of those interviews
Speaker 1: are missing, and this is where we are today. Rhodes
Speaker 1: in the White House, of course, had something to say.
Speaker 2: About this, Uh, they certainly did. So here was the
Speaker 2: official White House response. They initially referred folks back to
Speaker 2: their previous statement, basically saying that if anything was found
Speaker 2: to be unfounded or not credible, and certainly potentially something
Speaker 2: released specifically leading up to the twenty twenty election, that
Speaker 2: is the reason why perhaps they weren't being released because
Speaker 2: they were found to be not credible. But this latest
Speaker 2: response was indirect response to the missing files. Just as
Speaker 2: President Trump has said he's been totally exonerated on anything
Speaker 2: relating to Epstein, and by releasing thousands of pages of documents,
Speaker 2: cooperating with the House Oversight Committee subpoena request, signing the
Speaker 2: Epstein Files Transparency Act, and calling for more investigation into
Speaker 2: Epstein's Democrat friends. President Trump has done more for Epstein's
Speaker 2: victims than anyone before him. Meanwhile, Democrats like Hakeem Jeffreys
Speaker 2: and Stacy Plaskett have yet to explain why they were
Speaker 2: soliciting money and meetings from Epstein after he was already
Speaker 2: a convicted sex offender.
Speaker 1: We probably all could have written that ourselves. We've heard
Speaker 1: that line from the White House and understandably so. I
Speaker 1: think plenty will take issue with him doing more for
Speaker 1: Epstein survivors than anybody else. But yes, they've put that out.
Speaker 1: And again, the President has always maintained and he has
Speaker 1: never been accused of any criminal wrongdoing having to do
Speaker 1: with Epstein, not by any certainly official here.
Speaker 2: But this particular woman and NPR did post what the
Speaker 2: allegation specifically was that she claims happened to her, and
Speaker 2: she says that she was he exposed himself to her
Speaker 2: and that he wanted her to perform a sexual act
Speaker 2: when she didn't. She claims that he punched her in
Speaker 2: the head and kicked her out. That is what she
Speaker 2: is claiming. That is what was in these documents. And look,
Speaker 2: people can make plenty of accusations. It doesn't mean they're true,
Speaker 2: it doesn't mean they've been found to be credible. And
Speaker 2: so that is the question why they wouldn't be included.
Speaker 2: If the FBI, the investigators people who conducted these four
Speaker 2: interviews with this woman again many many many years later,
Speaker 2: this was all alleged to have happened back in nineteen
Speaker 2: eighty three. So it's fair that there are plenty of
Speaker 2: accusations thrown out in this case, and plenty are not true.
Speaker 2: That's the problem here. And so many people's names just
Speaker 2: by being mentioned in these files doesn't necessarily mean they
Speaker 2: did anything wrong.
Speaker 3: Where does this go from here.
Speaker 2: Well, the Democrats aren't going to let this go. They
Speaker 2: already held press conferences about this yesterday, and yes, these
Speaker 2: investigations will continue by Democrats in the House Oversight Committee
Speaker 2: wanting answers, and they are going to push for answers
Speaker 2: about where these missing documents are and why they were
Speaker 2: not included in this latest document. Drump Dump and the
Speaker 2: DOJ will perhaps put out another statement, perhaps not, but
Speaker 2: this investigation will continue, and of course we will follow
Speaker 2: any developments, so we will of course stay on top
Speaker 2: of this story. It feels as though there are Epstein
Speaker 2: related headlines daily, multiple times a day actually dropping here,
Speaker 2: so we will of course keep our eye on all
Speaker 2: of that for you. But thank you in the meantime
Speaker 2: for joining us. Morning Run is coming up in just
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