1 00:00:10,360 --> 00:00:14,440 Speaker 1: Hey, they're folks, did It's Thursday, February twenty six and shocker, 2 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:20,080 Speaker 1: some Epstein files are missing. But there are three in 3 00:00:20,280 --> 00:00:26,160 Speaker 1: particular that are missing that has got Democrats seething. It's 4 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:31,120 Speaker 1: got the Trump administration defending and quite frankly, robes. None 5 00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:32,879 Speaker 1: of us should be surprised by this. And with that, 6 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:35,000 Speaker 1: welcome to this episode of Amy and TJ. The three 7 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:38,040 Speaker 1: files missing have to do with President Trump, robes, and 8 00:00:38,120 --> 00:00:42,120 Speaker 1: some pretty awful accusations being made by a woman. 9 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:46,280 Speaker 2: That's right, a woman who is now, yes, a woman, 10 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:51,280 Speaker 2: but claims these allegations of abuse by Jeffrey Epstein and yes, 11 00:00:51,560 --> 00:00:55,200 Speaker 2: by President Trump. She claims happened when she was just 12 00:00:55,640 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 2: thirteen years old. So these are damning and dis disturbing 13 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:04,400 Speaker 2: allegations and made even more so by the fact that 14 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:05,760 Speaker 2: they are missing. 15 00:01:05,959 --> 00:01:08,839 Speaker 1: Okay, so we should start at the top with these 16 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:13,880 Speaker 1: are claims. They're not substantiated, and we don't have any 17 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 1: idea about the credibility of them. And at this point 18 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:20,520 Speaker 1: President Trump is not facing any criminal accusations. He's not 19 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:23,160 Speaker 1: facing any criminal charges, all right, we got that out 20 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:28,319 Speaker 1: of the way. He has forever denied any wrongdoing. However, Robes. Now, 21 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:30,959 Speaker 1: let's go to why this is such a big deal 22 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:35,080 Speaker 1: Epstein files. We know the tropes, documents have been coming out, 23 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 1: there are arguments about redactions and back and forth. Is 24 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:40,640 Speaker 1: everything out there? Fine, let's get away from all that 25 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:42,880 Speaker 1: for a second and just focus on this thing. A 26 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:45,840 Speaker 1: part of these files, Robes whereas an interview done with 27 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 1: a woman in twenty nineteen who came forward after Epstein 28 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 1: was arrested and said, oh, yeah, that's the guy who 29 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 1: assaulted me when I was younger. She starts piecing things together. 30 00:01:57,800 --> 00:02:01,360 Speaker 1: The FBI goes and interviews her at les four interviews. 31 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:04,520 Speaker 1: We know that we're done with her. The FBI file 32 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 1: on those four interviews, well, three of them are missing 33 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:11,920 Speaker 1: and we only get one. So Robes, the focus is 34 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 1: why are those other three missing? And the implication is 35 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 1: that she said something about Trump and those other three 36 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:20,000 Speaker 1: and that's why it's missing. This is where we are, 37 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:20,919 Speaker 1: yes correct. 38 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:24,480 Speaker 2: And in addition to those three separate conversations, NBR did 39 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:26,880 Speaker 2: a whole investigation. You know, they have a slew of 40 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:31,119 Speaker 2: reporters and they can actually tell there are missing numbers. 41 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 2: They actually have serial numbers and they can say, hey, 42 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:39,400 Speaker 2: there are missing sets of documents based on serial numbers 43 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:42,440 Speaker 2: going through all of this, and notably those three documents 44 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 2: are missing. Now, this woman claims that this assault happened 45 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:51,960 Speaker 2: in Hiltonhead Island when she was thirteen, and yes, the 46 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:54,359 Speaker 2: FBI did four separate interviews with her. And why that's 47 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:57,120 Speaker 2: important is from reporters who have gone through all of 48 00:02:57,120 --> 00:02:59,400 Speaker 2: these documents. For the FBI to go back to this 49 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:03,600 Speaker 2: woman three times after that initial interview suggests that there 50 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 2: was credibility to her story. They say that this is 51 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 2: something significant. Now when you know that three of those interviews, 52 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 2: which they claim some people claim to have seen already 53 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 2: because some of this was a part of discovery information 54 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:20,959 Speaker 2: in the Galaine Maxwell trial. This is all very confusing, 55 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:24,080 Speaker 2: But there are people who have seen these documents who 56 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:27,399 Speaker 2: can now say they existed, we know the contents of them, 57 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:29,919 Speaker 2: and now they're missing. And the reason why they're missing, 58 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 2: some folks claim, is because those contents contain significant and 59 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:36,280 Speaker 2: serious allegations against Trump. 60 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:39,840 Speaker 1: So we don't know where they are, we don't know 61 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:43,559 Speaker 1: why they're missing. There could be a very simple explanation 62 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 1: for this, and oversight. Look, there's a lot of documents 63 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:49,240 Speaker 1: we're talking about millions of documents and something isn't matching 64 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 1: up right now, and something is missing. To the point, now, 65 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 1: whereas I couldn't believe the word investigation was being thrown around, 66 00:03:56,600 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 1: they now want an investigation into why these are missing. 67 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 1: This whole thing is an Epstein investigation. Now we're investigating 68 00:04:01,720 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 1: the investigation. 69 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:07,240 Speaker 2: Yes, it's actually a parallel investigation. So Democrats on the 70 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:11,800 Speaker 2: House Oversight Committee who are heading up this Epstein investigation, 71 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:16,599 Speaker 2: they already have an investigation into those specific allegations we're 72 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:19,960 Speaker 2: referencing by that woman from South Carolina who claims this 73 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 2: all happened when she was thirteen. But now they're adding 74 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 2: a parallel investigation into why. Yes, these files, these interviews, 75 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:32,480 Speaker 2: these memos and notes from FBI investigators are missing. And 76 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:38,359 Speaker 2: specifically we heard from California Representative Robert Garcia who spoke 77 00:04:38,360 --> 00:04:41,320 Speaker 2: to reporters and he said, there is definitely, in my opinion, 78 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:45,880 Speaker 2: evidence of a cover up happening. Why are these documents missing? 79 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 2: These documents I personally saw, I know who the survivor is. 80 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:54,919 Speaker 2: The name is redacted in the doc in the manifest document, 81 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:58,479 Speaker 2: and there are documents missing from that same survivor that 82 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 2: appeared to be interviews or conversations again with the FBI. 83 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 2: The FBI clearly investigated, and now those documents are gone. 84 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:13,359 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, here we are now once again we 85 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:15,440 Speaker 1: have to be careful here and be clear. This is 86 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:17,240 Speaker 1: of course a lot of politics and a lot of 87 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:19,240 Speaker 1: back and forth, and then you have a lot of 88 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 1: folks on the other side, victims who are saying that well, 89 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:28,719 Speaker 1: quite frankly, there are cover ups, and there are other 90 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:30,600 Speaker 1: men who are implicated and folks who need to be 91 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:32,360 Speaker 1: held accountable, and a lot of people want to point 92 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:35,800 Speaker 1: at President Trump. However, we need to again this is 93 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:37,960 Speaker 1: something you got to be very, very careful with when 94 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:40,599 Speaker 1: you're talking about someone accusing the president of the United 95 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:44,040 Speaker 1: States of one of some most heinous stuff you will 96 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:48,840 Speaker 1: ever hear. You gotta be careful in this, and I 97 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:51,240 Speaker 1: don't think Democrats care about being careful. But some of 98 00:05:51,279 --> 00:05:56,480 Speaker 1: the things that are saying are suggestions and implications of 99 00:05:56,520 --> 00:06:01,040 Speaker 1: something that Trump did, but frankly, there's no evidence of it. 100 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:04,279 Speaker 1: So it's it's a very delicate and very careful balance 101 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:08,360 Speaker 1: here with when Democrats are, hey, something's missing, so it 102 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 1: must be something going on here. That's just the headline 103 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:13,840 Speaker 1: folks right now, ropes are running with that youve got 104 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:14,919 Speaker 1: to be very very careful of. 105 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:17,440 Speaker 2: In this case, Yes, because the Justice Department was very 106 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:20,719 Speaker 2: swift in their response, saying, as we have always said, 107 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 2: all documents responsive were produced. Those not fall within one 108 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:28,479 Speaker 2: of the following categories. So this is the reason why 109 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:32,839 Speaker 2: they say certain documents weren't included in the document dump. 110 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:36,000 Speaker 2: If they fell into one of these categories, they were 111 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 2: either duplicates, they were privileged, or they were part of 112 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:45,200 Speaker 2: an ongoing federal investigation. So they also said that in 113 00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:49,279 Speaker 2: terms of specifically these missing files, they're reviewing the documents 114 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 2: that were released in connection to the index. The point 115 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:53,920 Speaker 2: is people point to the index, they can see these 116 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:57,719 Speaker 2: interviews occurred, they can see that there were documents produced, 117 00:06:58,200 --> 00:07:00,240 Speaker 2: and then they're missing. So they say, the Department said 118 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:03,720 Speaker 2: it will publish any documents that may now be found 119 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:07,680 Speaker 2: to have been improperly tagged in the review process that 120 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:10,480 Speaker 2: are legally required to be made public. So they're going back, 121 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:14,840 Speaker 2: they say, and they're going to reassess what they chose 122 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:19,720 Speaker 2: not to include based on those categories. And that's it, 123 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 2: because they cannot not release documents just because it could 124 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:27,720 Speaker 2: publicly embarrass someone that's not allowed. 125 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:31,120 Speaker 1: The Epstein Files mess continues. We are hearing from the 126 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 1: White House, you know, they had something to say about this. 127 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:36,080 Speaker 1: Stay here, we'll explain how the administration is responding to 128 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:37,840 Speaker 1: these new missing claims. 129 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 3: Stay here, all. 130 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:50,880 Speaker 1: Right, folks, We'll continue here on this AM and TJ 131 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:55,360 Speaker 1: on this Thursday, February twenty sixth with it's never going 132 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:58,280 Speaker 1: to be over, Robes. It's never the Epstein files mess 133 00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:01,120 Speaker 1: will never be over the middle of it again. I 134 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:03,120 Speaker 1: don't even remember the date when they were all supposed 135 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 1: to be out last November was it or December? All 136 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 1: the five it was December. Why do I just have 137 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:10,240 Speaker 1: nineteenth in my head? All the files are supposed to 138 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:12,760 Speaker 1: be out by that day. They've been trickling out, trickling out, 139 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 1: trickling out, and every time they trickle out, somebody has 140 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 1: a complaint. That's not everything. This name's not in there, 141 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:20,200 Speaker 1: and where's the real list and all of these things. 142 00:08:20,200 --> 00:08:23,000 Speaker 1: So here we go once again, Robes. And we shouldn't 143 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 1: be surprised. There are news organizations have figured out there 144 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 1: are certain documents that are missing. There are plenty of 145 00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:32,760 Speaker 1: documents that are probably missing and haven't been put out there. 146 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:35,720 Speaker 1: These they'll have to do specifically with the president of 147 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:39,920 Speaker 1: the United States, and some pretty horrific accusations at least 148 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:43,360 Speaker 1: that were made by a woman back in twenty nineteen, 149 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:46,160 Speaker 1: having to do with her saying she was sexually assaulted 150 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:50,120 Speaker 1: by Epstein repeatedly and by President Trump, not President then, 151 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:52,600 Speaker 1: but this was back in the eighties. But the interviews 152 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 1: that the FBI did in which she laid out these accusations, 153 00:08:57,800 --> 00:09:01,360 Speaker 1: the details of those interviews is laid out by the 154 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:06,960 Speaker 1: FBI in memos. Those memos, those documents of those interviews 155 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:10,280 Speaker 1: are missing, and this is where we are today. Rhodes 156 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:11,920 Speaker 1: in the White House, of course, had something to say. 157 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:14,640 Speaker 2: About this, Uh, they certainly did. So here was the 158 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 2: official White House response. They initially referred folks back to 159 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:24,319 Speaker 2: their previous statement, basically saying that if anything was found 160 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:28,720 Speaker 2: to be unfounded or not credible, and certainly potentially something 161 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:32,800 Speaker 2: released specifically leading up to the twenty twenty election, that 162 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:36,160 Speaker 2: is the reason why perhaps they weren't being released because 163 00:09:36,160 --> 00:09:39,560 Speaker 2: they were found to be not credible. But this latest 164 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:44,560 Speaker 2: response was indirect response to the missing files. Just as 165 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:49,040 Speaker 2: President Trump has said he's been totally exonerated on anything 166 00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 2: relating to Epstein, and by releasing thousands of pages of documents, 167 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:57,520 Speaker 2: cooperating with the House Oversight Committee subpoena request, signing the 168 00:09:57,520 --> 00:10:02,319 Speaker 2: Epstein Files Transparency Act, and calling for more investigation into 169 00:10:02,320 --> 00:10:06,679 Speaker 2: Epstein's Democrat friends. President Trump has done more for Epstein's 170 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:10,640 Speaker 2: victims than anyone before him. Meanwhile, Democrats like Hakeem Jeffreys 171 00:10:10,679 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 2: and Stacy Plaskett have yet to explain why they were 172 00:10:14,080 --> 00:10:17,640 Speaker 2: soliciting money and meetings from Epstein after he was already 173 00:10:17,679 --> 00:10:18,920 Speaker 2: a convicted sex offender. 174 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:22,200 Speaker 1: We probably all could have written that ourselves. We've heard 175 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:26,200 Speaker 1: that line from the White House and understandably so. I 176 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:28,880 Speaker 1: think plenty will take issue with him doing more for 177 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:32,400 Speaker 1: Epstein survivors than anybody else. But yes, they've put that out. 178 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:34,920 Speaker 1: And again, the President has always maintained and he has 179 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:38,400 Speaker 1: never been accused of any criminal wrongdoing having to do 180 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:41,439 Speaker 1: with Epstein, not by any certainly official here. 181 00:10:41,520 --> 00:10:46,679 Speaker 2: But this particular woman and NPR did post what the 182 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:50,880 Speaker 2: allegation specifically was that she claims happened to her, and 183 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 2: she says that she was he exposed himself to her 184 00:10:54,960 --> 00:10:58,800 Speaker 2: and that he wanted her to perform a sexual act 185 00:10:58,840 --> 00:11:01,360 Speaker 2: when she didn't. She claims that he punched her in 186 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 2: the head and kicked her out. That is what she 187 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:06,640 Speaker 2: is claiming. That is what was in these documents. And look, 188 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:09,440 Speaker 2: people can make plenty of accusations. It doesn't mean they're true, 189 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:11,960 Speaker 2: it doesn't mean they've been found to be credible. And 190 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:14,880 Speaker 2: so that is the question why they wouldn't be included. 191 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:19,120 Speaker 2: If the FBI, the investigators people who conducted these four 192 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:22,480 Speaker 2: interviews with this woman again many many many years later, 193 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:24,840 Speaker 2: this was all alleged to have happened back in nineteen 194 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:28,960 Speaker 2: eighty three. So it's fair that there are plenty of 195 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:33,280 Speaker 2: accusations thrown out in this case, and plenty are not true. 196 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:37,040 Speaker 2: That's the problem here. And so many people's names just 197 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:40,360 Speaker 2: by being mentioned in these files doesn't necessarily mean they 198 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:41,480 Speaker 2: did anything wrong. 199 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:42,959 Speaker 3: Where does this go from here. 200 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:45,760 Speaker 2: Well, the Democrats aren't going to let this go. They 201 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 2: already held press conferences about this yesterday, and yes, these 202 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:52,719 Speaker 2: investigations will continue by Democrats in the House Oversight Committee 203 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:55,400 Speaker 2: wanting answers, and they are going to push for answers 204 00:11:55,440 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 2: about where these missing documents are and why they were 205 00:11:59,720 --> 00:12:03,840 Speaker 2: not included in this latest document. Drump Dump and the 206 00:12:03,920 --> 00:12:07,920 Speaker 2: DOJ will perhaps put out another statement, perhaps not, but 207 00:12:08,040 --> 00:12:11,160 Speaker 2: this investigation will continue, and of course we will follow 208 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:14,600 Speaker 2: any developments, so we will of course stay on top 209 00:12:14,640 --> 00:12:17,080 Speaker 2: of this story. It feels as though there are Epstein 210 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:21,400 Speaker 2: related headlines daily, multiple times a day actually dropping here, 211 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:23,760 Speaker 2: so we will of course keep our eye on all 212 00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:25,600 Speaker 2: of that for you. But thank you in the meantime 213 00:12:25,880 --> 00:12:27,840 Speaker 2: for joining us. Morning Run is coming up in just 214 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:29,959 Speaker 2: a bit, so look for that in your feed. I 215 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:32,800 Speaker 2: may be Robach alongside TJ. Holmes, and we will talk 216 00:12:32,840 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 2: to you soon