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Saturdays super middleweight made event between Canelo Alvarez 21 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:18,279 Speaker 5: and Jermel Charlow going live at the T Mobile Arena 22 00:01:18,319 --> 00:01:21,760 Speaker 5: in Las Vegas. Ringwalk should be sometime after eleven pm 23 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:26,640 Speaker 5: Eastern main card starts closer to eight pm showtime pay 24 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:29,360 Speaker 5: per view. Canell coming in is a round a minus 25 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:32,560 Speaker 5: four hundred favorite, around eighty percent in the implied our 26 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:35,800 Speaker 5: odds market. Fight favored to go to a decision pretty 27 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:38,920 Speaker 5: heavily as well, about minus two fifty to dys and 28 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:43,199 Speaker 5: the draw the juicy draw sitting at plus eighteen hundred. 29 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 5: We're gonna break down the technical asbecs of this fight, 30 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 5: the physical characteristics of both fighters, what's at stake for 31 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 5: both fighters, and then get the guy's best bets for 32 00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 5: both this fight and the other fights on Saturday's card. Eric, 33 00:01:57,280 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 5: I want to turn it to you first, just talking 34 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 5: about the differential between the two fighters. Jrmal Charlie moving 35 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 5: up two weight divisions here, but he is actually the 36 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 5: bigger fighter, for which is taller three and a half 37 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:09,919 Speaker 5: inch each advantage. I would assume Canelo more filled out 38 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:13,560 Speaker 5: for the weight class, probably the bigger hitter, but considering 39 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 5: a couple fights back to go up to light heavyweight 40 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:18,920 Speaker 5: face the bigger fighter dmeetrir Buvolt struggled with this size 41 00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 5: a little bit, maybe struggled with the power more though. 42 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:24,240 Speaker 5: Just curious how you think the physical characteristics of both 43 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:27,799 Speaker 5: fighters are going to match up child Charlo's size advantage, 44 00:02:27,800 --> 00:02:30,040 Speaker 5: his jab is going to play out in this fight. 45 00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 5: And then also the age of ble fighters. You know, 46 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 5: both thirty three years old, but Canelo more than one 47 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:37,519 Speaker 5: hundred professional fights amateur and professional in his career. I 48 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:39,960 Speaker 5: should say, so, just whether you think Canelo might be 49 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:42,839 Speaker 5: hitting the latter stages of his career here. 50 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:47,120 Speaker 4: So one of my big talking points that not just 51 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:49,720 Speaker 4: for this fight, but in boxing in general, I think 52 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 4: people overrate the advantage, the supposed advantage of size. Obviously, 53 00:02:55,639 --> 00:03:00,160 Speaker 4: weight classes exist for a reason. Size can matter. I'm 54 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:01,799 Speaker 4: not gonna sit here and tell you NOOI in a 55 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:03,840 Speaker 4: way could move up and beat Tyson Fury. There is 56 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 4: a point at which it's impossible. But within a weight 57 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 4: class or two, people tend to lean on, oh, the 58 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 4: bigger man's gonna win, and it just doesn't bear out. 59 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:14,800 Speaker 4: We see it all the time. Manny Pacial beat so 60 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 4: many guys who were bigger than him. Canelo moved up 61 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:19,640 Speaker 4: and wait and beat guys up until a point. So 62 00:03:19,919 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 4: with this particular fight, I really don't think of size 63 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:25,320 Speaker 4: as a significant factor. As you pointed out, Jamal Charlow 64 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:29,400 Speaker 4: is taller and longer. Canello will probably functionally outweigh him 65 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:31,919 Speaker 4: five or ten pounds something like that on fight night. 66 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 4: But I think it's more a matter of styles and 67 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:39,800 Speaker 4: who's the superior fighter than that Canelo's going to win 68 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 4: because he's bigger or anything like that. And I don't 69 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 4: think he lost to Dimitri Bevol because Bevol was bigger. 70 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 4: I think that was largely stylistic, Beevol using his height 71 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:52,960 Speaker 4: advantage in a particular way with such a busy jab, 72 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 4: perhaps combined with the question of whether Canelo was starting 73 00:03:57,480 --> 00:04:00,360 Speaker 4: to slow down with that fight, which factors into what 74 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 4: you were asking about the ages. I don't think we 75 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 4: knew going into Canelo versus Bevil that perhaps Canelo was 76 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 4: starting to show his age. He was still considered the 77 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 4: pound four pound champ by most going into that, But 78 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:13,440 Speaker 4: when we look at that fight in the context of 79 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:17,400 Speaker 4: Canelo's two rather flat performances that have followed against Glovekin 80 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 4: and against John Ryder, I think it's pretty fair to 81 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:23,560 Speaker 4: question now whether Canelo is I'm not going to use 82 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:26,680 Speaker 4: the word washed, He's nowhere close to that, but getting 83 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 4: just a. 84 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 6: Little washy, a little post prime. 85 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 4: I think we're there with Canelo, whereas a Charlow I 86 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:35,599 Speaker 4: think is probably a younger thirty three. So that's sort 87 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 4: of how I would view size as a relative non 88 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:42,000 Speaker 4: factor here, and the question of weather Canelo is a 89 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:44,600 Speaker 4: little past his best could go a long way toward 90 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:45,840 Speaker 4: determining who wins this fight. 91 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:49,240 Speaker 5: I also saw some murmuries that this has been Canelo's 92 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:51,680 Speaker 5: healthiest camp. And while you know he's a very active guy. 93 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 5: He seems to fight twice a year. He's has more 94 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 5: than sixty professional bouts. So Brian just you know, curious 95 00:04:57,080 --> 00:04:59,599 Speaker 5: on your thoughts. Do you think Canelo's sort of past prime? 96 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 5: Do you think think he's maybe been banged up in 97 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:03,920 Speaker 5: these recent fights? And how do you sort of see 98 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:06,359 Speaker 5: the size differential playing Alfred Charlo in this matchup? 99 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:11,200 Speaker 7: Well, he turned pro in two thousand and five, you know, 100 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:15,280 Speaker 7: Canelo Alvarez did, and Jamel Charlo, by the way, turned 101 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:18,360 Speaker 7: pro in two thousand and seven, so both of these 102 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:21,359 Speaker 7: guys went pro very young. Canilo Alpharez has been a 103 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:24,240 Speaker 7: pro for longer. He also has sixty three professional bouts 104 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:27,360 Speaker 7: to Jamel Charlo who has about thirty seven. So there's 105 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:30,159 Speaker 7: sort of the big difference there, but then you have 106 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:36,000 Speaker 7: sort of a rest versus you know, actually being in 107 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:40,559 Speaker 7: the ring conversation because Jamel Charlo has only fought once 108 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:42,920 Speaker 7: in each of the last few years. He fell once 109 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:45,120 Speaker 7: twenty twenty. A lot of people only fought once twenty 110 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:47,800 Speaker 7: twenty because you know, and then in twenty twenty one 111 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:50,279 Speaker 7: and then in twenty twenty two, whereas Canidal Alparez has 112 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:52,880 Speaker 7: been active, he had three fights in twenty twenty one, 113 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:55,320 Speaker 7: he had two and twenty twenty two, and this year 114 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:59,280 Speaker 7: this was going to be a second fight. And even 115 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:03,160 Speaker 7: though he's he's the same age as Jamel Charlo, sneakily 116 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:06,240 Speaker 7: he feels older because well, one, he's been around a 117 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 7: lot longer in terms of like these high profile fights. 118 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:14,159 Speaker 7: And Canelo Alvarez really got to the world title scene 119 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:16,520 Speaker 7: in like twenty ten to twenty eleven, where Jamel Charlo 120 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:17,320 Speaker 7: was still coming up. 121 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:19,880 Speaker 2: He didn't have his first world title shot until twenty. 122 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:22,520 Speaker 7: Sixteen, you know, And I just think, you know, going 123 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:26,480 Speaker 7: back to what Eric was saying about, like just stylistically, 124 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:30,479 Speaker 7: Dimitri Bevo when he beat Cannelo Alvarez, it wasn't a 125 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:33,680 Speaker 7: size thing. It was kind of like, hey, in Europe, 126 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 7: they teach you when you finished with the combination jab 127 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 7: when you're stepping away instead of just stepping away, and 128 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:42,640 Speaker 7: Canelo Alvarez had a big problem with that. The size 129 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 7: factor here is going to be interested because Jamel Charlo 130 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:46,600 Speaker 7: does have the height and reach advantages. 131 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:47,920 Speaker 2: And I was at the. 132 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:51,360 Speaker 7: Press conference when these two were, you know, the fight 133 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:54,360 Speaker 7: was being hyped up in New York City, and Jamel 134 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:56,720 Speaker 7: Charlo doesn't look like he's gonna have a problem with 135 00:06:56,760 --> 00:06:58,640 Speaker 7: the way cut because he looked pretty big. 136 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 2: And you know, we'll see. But at the end of 137 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 2: the day, it's going up two weight classes. 138 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:08,479 Speaker 7: And Canidlo Alvarez has had experienced beating guys. He's not 139 00:07:08,520 --> 00:07:11,120 Speaker 7: somebody who came up at super middleweight. He was fighting 140 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:13,920 Speaker 7: at welterweight in super welterweight when he was coming up, 141 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:17,560 Speaker 7: and you know, just gradually progressed. I wouldn't say that 142 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 7: he's a bigger guy than like a kleab plant for example, 143 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 7: he knocked him out. He knocked out Sergey Kovalev, who 144 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:25,120 Speaker 7: was a light heavyweight, who was the light heavyweight Boogeyman. 145 00:07:25,640 --> 00:07:28,600 Speaker 7: So I feel like he can figure out Jamel Charlow 146 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:32,760 Speaker 7: relatively easily. And the issue that I have with Jamel 147 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:34,520 Speaker 7: Charlow as well. I think he's good enough to win 148 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:35,040 Speaker 7: this fight. 149 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:37,920 Speaker 2: This is your first fight in sixteen months, and you're 150 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:41,200 Speaker 2: gonna fight Canilo Alvarez and you're gonna move up two 151 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:42,520 Speaker 2: way classes to do it. 152 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:48,480 Speaker 7: And Canilo Alvarez, while typically not a great starter, he's 153 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:51,680 Speaker 7: gotten off to better starts lately. The problem is toward 154 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 7: the end. That's where I'm gonna have questions, But we 155 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:54,960 Speaker 7: could get into that later on. 156 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 5: So let's talk about the technical aspects of this by 157 00:07:57,920 --> 00:08:00,520 Speaker 5: Brian you mentioning Bevo exiting with the jazz you know 158 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 5: on those combinations. Charlo, to my knowledge, has a good job, 159 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 5: also has a good left hook. How do you see 160 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:10,320 Speaker 5: the you know, the exchanges playing out. You know, from 161 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:16,400 Speaker 5: my very amateur analysis, it seems like Canelo durable guy. 162 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 5: Charlo going up two weight classes, probably going to struggle 163 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:22,560 Speaker 5: to knock him out, you know, just based on the 164 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:25,679 Speaker 5: power to referential right, but also seems like a lower 165 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 5: volume punchers comared to Canalo. So how does how does 166 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:31,160 Speaker 5: Charlo win this fight if he's going to be at 167 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:33,960 Speaker 5: a power discrepancy and also a volume discrepancy. 168 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:37,480 Speaker 7: Well, that's the question, and that's why kind of little 169 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:39,960 Speaker 7: such a big bay for going into this fight. Not 170 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:42,720 Speaker 7: a massive favorite in boxing terms, but you know, still 171 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:46,520 Speaker 7: four to one basically right. And I think with Jamal Charlo, 172 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:50,320 Speaker 7: the thing is it's not only that he's moving up 173 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:53,440 Speaker 7: two weight classes and he's coming off a sixteen month 174 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:57,559 Speaker 7: layoff and he's fighting while he himself is a probably 175 00:08:57,640 --> 00:08:59,720 Speaker 7: poundful pound top ten guy. I would say that he 176 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:02,760 Speaker 7: is because undisputed super well toweight champion moving up to 177 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:06,280 Speaker 7: fight undisputed super middleweight champion fourteen pound weight class difference, 178 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:09,720 Speaker 7: but still moving up to fight him. He's also facing, 179 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:13,440 Speaker 7: of all people, Canilo Alvarez. And the thing with Jamel 180 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:18,960 Speaker 7: Charlo is he's given up rounds two Brian Costano, Tony Harrison, 181 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:23,280 Speaker 7: John Jackson, he was famously losing in that fight before 182 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:27,360 Speaker 7: knocking him out, and Jason Rosario got some rounds off 183 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:31,600 Speaker 7: of Jamel Charlo, and Canelo Alvarez is better quite considerably, 184 00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:35,199 Speaker 7: respectfully than all of those guys. I would say Tony 185 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:37,800 Speaker 7: Harrison is the best of that bunch, and you wouldn't 186 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:40,720 Speaker 7: say Tony Harrison is anywhere near Canilo Alvarez with all 187 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 7: due respect, and I think that that's gonna be the 188 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:47,679 Speaker 7: key for me here is if Jamel Charlo's not going 189 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 7: to be as busy, Like using your height in your 190 00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:52,640 Speaker 7: reach is one thing, but Cannelo Alvarez has been fighting 191 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:55,440 Speaker 7: longer and taller guys for how long at this point 192 00:09:55,840 --> 00:09:58,360 Speaker 7: he figures out ways to get to your body. That's 193 00:09:58,360 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 7: gonna be the key. Is your Camel Charlo gonna be 194 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:04,440 Speaker 7: able to withstand the body punching from Canilo Alvarez. That's 195 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:06,920 Speaker 7: my biggest question because Canilo Alvarez is going to get 196 00:10:06,920 --> 00:10:08,280 Speaker 7: to his left hook, He is going to get to 197 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:11,600 Speaker 7: his double left hook headbody or body head, and this 198 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:13,240 Speaker 7: is how he's going to be able. 199 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 2: To close the distance. 200 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:17,720 Speaker 7: And Jamel Charlow is not really to your point, Sean, 201 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:22,760 Speaker 7: busy enough to keep Canilo Alvarez off of him for 202 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:26,800 Speaker 7: twelve whole rounds. Canilo Alvarez, who's as good as anybody 203 00:10:26,880 --> 00:10:29,360 Speaker 7: has closing the gap, He's gonna have to have a 204 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:31,840 Speaker 7: busier job. He's gonna have to challenge him with his 205 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:33,800 Speaker 7: right hand. He has a money right hand. And I'll 206 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:36,880 Speaker 7: note that Jamel Charlow, he has six knockouts in world 207 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:40,040 Speaker 7: title fights. All of them are knockouts, not technical knockouts, 208 00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:42,960 Speaker 7: just straight knockouts. But Canelo Alvarez is somebody who's never 209 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:46,480 Speaker 7: been stopped before, so he's gonna have to He's gonna 210 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:48,719 Speaker 7: have to be busier than he normally would, and I 211 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:50,720 Speaker 7: don't know if Canelo's just going to let that happen, 212 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:53,800 Speaker 7: because his busy is different than anybody else is busy. 213 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:57,240 Speaker 4: So I can tell from the way that Brian's talking 214 00:10:57,320 --> 00:11:00,480 Speaker 4: that I consider Jamel a little bit more of a 215 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:01,800 Speaker 4: live dog than you do. 216 00:11:01,880 --> 00:11:02,160 Speaker 6: Brian. 217 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:04,400 Speaker 4: I can tell that it seems, and I'm not picking 218 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:07,000 Speaker 4: Jamal to win straight up. I'm just saying it sounds 219 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:10,000 Speaker 4: like you're very confident, or at least a little more 220 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:12,400 Speaker 4: confident than I am, that Canelo is going to win 221 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:17,160 Speaker 4: this fight. I think the key to everything for Jamal 222 00:11:17,280 --> 00:11:18,920 Speaker 4: Charlow in this fight is going to be the job. 223 00:11:19,080 --> 00:11:22,000 Speaker 4: And I don't expect him to be as effective with 224 00:11:22,040 --> 00:11:24,480 Speaker 4: it as bevol was, but he does have a really 225 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:26,719 Speaker 4: good job, and if he can pump it out there 226 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:31,280 Speaker 4: consistently and importantly not get countered with a left hook 227 00:11:31,280 --> 00:11:32,439 Speaker 4: from Canelo, that's the thing. 228 00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:33,920 Speaker 6: You're walking a tightrope. 229 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:36,400 Speaker 4: You've got to use the jab, but not leave yourself 230 00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:40,240 Speaker 4: open to that big counter left hook. If Jamal can 231 00:11:40,280 --> 00:11:42,760 Speaker 4: do that, if he can be really effective and dictate 232 00:11:42,840 --> 00:11:45,960 Speaker 4: with the jab, And no, he's not a busy fighter, 233 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:48,960 Speaker 4: but neither is Canelo really. They're both pretty patient fighters 234 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:52,280 Speaker 4: who are economical in their output. So I think if 235 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:55,040 Speaker 4: Jameal can use the jab, he can certainly pile up 236 00:11:55,080 --> 00:11:57,719 Speaker 4: some rounds and have a chance in this. Again, I'll 237 00:11:57,760 --> 00:12:00,520 Speaker 4: come back to the question of whether Canelo has slowed 238 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:03,080 Speaker 4: down significantly. That opens the door. It's one of those 239 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:06,520 Speaker 4: things where if this was prime Canelo against Damel Charlow, 240 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:09,880 Speaker 4: I wouldn't be hesitating whatsoever to say that Canelo Alvarez 241 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:14,560 Speaker 4: wins this fight. But particularly in terms of upper body movement, 242 00:12:14,640 --> 00:12:16,760 Speaker 4: I've noticed that Canelo is not what he used to 243 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:19,000 Speaker 4: be his last few fights. He's been a little easier 244 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:21,959 Speaker 4: to find, not using that upper body movement to set 245 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:26,720 Speaker 4: everything up both offensively and defensively. It just makes me 246 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:29,080 Speaker 4: wonder if he's slowed down a little bit, and if 247 00:12:29,160 --> 00:12:31,520 Speaker 4: Jamel Charlow, if the rust is not a factor, which 248 00:12:31,559 --> 00:12:34,320 Speaker 4: Brian kept pointing out, he could be rusty if his 249 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:36,560 Speaker 4: hand is healed, which is a bit of a question. 250 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:38,440 Speaker 4: That's why he was off so long, and he was 251 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:41,240 Speaker 4: willing to keep delaying his planned fight with Tim Zoo. 252 00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:43,920 Speaker 4: But then you give him a Canelo Alvarez offer and 253 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:46,240 Speaker 4: he jumps right at it. Maybe the hand is healed, 254 00:12:46,280 --> 00:12:49,520 Speaker 4: maybe it isn't. So those are sort of some key 255 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:52,040 Speaker 4: factors that I'm looking at. But I do consider Jamelle 256 00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:55,040 Speaker 4: a little bit more live here as the three to 257 00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:56,480 Speaker 4: one or so underdog that he is. 258 00:12:56,760 --> 00:12:59,240 Speaker 7: If I could say something to the age piece, right, 259 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:02,440 Speaker 7: I'll say this, I do have one concern with Canilo 260 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:03,679 Speaker 7: Alvarez in terms of slowing down. 261 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:05,000 Speaker 2: It's not the Davici Popo fight. 262 00:13:06,240 --> 00:13:08,480 Speaker 7: He looked so much better than Gonneti Glofkin the last 263 00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:12,520 Speaker 7: time that they fought last year until round what an 264 00:13:12,559 --> 00:13:14,360 Speaker 7: eight to nine, whatever the case may be. And then 265 00:13:14,360 --> 00:13:15,840 Speaker 7: it's like, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a wait, 266 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:18,199 Speaker 7: wait a minute. Why is forty year old Ganneti Glofkin, 267 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:20,719 Speaker 7: who box reck would still tell you is the best 268 00:13:20,760 --> 00:13:23,120 Speaker 7: middleweight in the world right now? But why is forty 269 00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:25,400 Speaker 7: year old Ganneti Glofkin all of a sudden finding this 270 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:27,920 Speaker 7: when Canilo Alvarez, Like, why is he slowing down here? 271 00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:31,600 Speaker 7: Then against John Ryder earlier this year, he gave up 272 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:33,640 Speaker 7: a couple of rounds toward the end in a fight where, 273 00:13:33,640 --> 00:13:36,560 Speaker 7: like I understand, John Ryder had only been stopped once before, 274 00:13:36,679 --> 00:13:38,800 Speaker 7: and John Ryder when he got stopped, it was an 275 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:41,400 Speaker 7: unfair stoppage. He shouldn't have really gotten stopped in that fight. 276 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 7: So John Ryder is not a guy that you're just 277 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:46,240 Speaker 7: gonna put away. But it was a noticeably smaller ring 278 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:48,720 Speaker 7: in Mexico. That fight was in Mexico for a reason, 279 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:51,680 Speaker 7: and Canilo Alvarez didn't put him away when it looked 280 00:13:51,679 --> 00:13:53,640 Speaker 7: like he had opportunities to do. So that's where I 281 00:13:53,640 --> 00:13:56,120 Speaker 7: think Jamel Charlo is going to be the beneficiary because 282 00:13:56,480 --> 00:13:59,160 Speaker 7: Canelo seems to This could be aged. 283 00:13:58,840 --> 00:14:02,000 Speaker 2: To your point, Eric and just experience, because sixty three 284 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:02,760 Speaker 2: pro fights. 285 00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:06,120 Speaker 7: Is he going to fade laden fights and Jamel Charlo 286 00:14:06,200 --> 00:14:08,000 Speaker 7: coming off that layoff, is he going to be able 287 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:10,480 Speaker 7: to get his rhythm at that point, because it's not 288 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:11,880 Speaker 7: going to come. I don't think in the first couple 289 00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:14,240 Speaker 7: rounds for Jamel he'll hit his gear at some point. 290 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:17,160 Speaker 7: Will he close out stronger than Canelo Alvarez and then 291 00:14:17,200 --> 00:14:19,360 Speaker 7: bank some of those late rounds that's sort of my 292 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:21,600 Speaker 7: question there, so I don't. 293 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:23,000 Speaker 5: Want to take away from our best bets, but we 294 00:14:23,040 --> 00:14:25,040 Speaker 5: will talk about in a second. But you know, just 295 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:28,920 Speaker 5: as a general overview, if you think, if you think 296 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:31,080 Speaker 5: you're interested in betting Jamel Charlotte, do you think this 297 00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:32,760 Speaker 5: is a better live betting spot for him. Do you 298 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:35,320 Speaker 5: think it's likelier given the ring rust, Given now Canelo 299 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:38,240 Speaker 5: has faded in his recent fights, it's maybe a better 300 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:40,800 Speaker 5: live betting opportunity likely to you had a better price 301 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:43,760 Speaker 5: on Charlo after the first couple of rounds, Brian, that's 302 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:45,000 Speaker 5: a great question. 303 00:14:45,400 --> 00:14:48,920 Speaker 7: And because it's it's pretty good now, you know, at 304 00:14:48,960 --> 00:14:52,520 Speaker 7: plus three hundred on the money line, better to get 305 00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:55,480 Speaker 7: if you don't think Canilo Alvarez is going to win 306 00:14:56,160 --> 00:15:00,160 Speaker 7: by knockout, or if Jammel Charlow rather is going to 307 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:01,880 Speaker 7: win by knockout, and you could just bet them on 308 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:04,200 Speaker 7: the points right now and you can get them at 309 00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:09,080 Speaker 7: a reasonable number. But there's something to that because again, 310 00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:12,520 Speaker 7: if I think, and this is just an old boxing adage, 311 00:15:12,520 --> 00:15:14,640 Speaker 7: like usually when you're coming off in long layoff, you 312 00:15:14,640 --> 00:15:16,840 Speaker 7: get off to a slow start and fights, particularly when 313 00:15:16,880 --> 00:15:19,520 Speaker 7: you fight somebody who's better than you right and bigger, 314 00:15:20,280 --> 00:15:21,920 Speaker 7: even though I don't think the size difference is gonna 315 00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 7: matter that much to the Eric's point, but I do 316 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:28,240 Speaker 7: think that there's something to that. Like if you watch 317 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:30,640 Speaker 7: the first couple of rounds and then you're banking on 318 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:34,640 Speaker 7: Canilo is gonna fade again and then Jamel Charlow is 319 00:15:34,680 --> 00:15:37,280 Speaker 7: going to kick it up round five, round four or 320 00:15:37,320 --> 00:15:39,560 Speaker 7: something along those lines, I wouldn't wait that many rounds 321 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:42,960 Speaker 7: because at that point it's Canilo. I mean, it's already 322 00:15:42,960 --> 00:15:46,040 Speaker 7: tough to be Canilo in Las Vegas, especially. 323 00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:47,240 Speaker 8: When the scorecards are pre filled out. 324 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:49,200 Speaker 2: Yees, you know, like that's the other thing. 325 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:53,360 Speaker 7: So I would say, if you're going to do that, 326 00:15:53,960 --> 00:15:58,800 Speaker 7: you can wait two rounds tops, maybe three. But I 327 00:15:58,800 --> 00:16:01,200 Speaker 7: also think you're getting good value you on it right now, 328 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:05,040 Speaker 7: because if you watch round one, round two and you 329 00:16:05,080 --> 00:16:07,200 Speaker 7: see something you don't like in Jamal Charlo, you might 330 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:08,960 Speaker 7: not want to pet him live at all at that point, 331 00:16:09,080 --> 00:16:11,239 Speaker 7: and then it'll be too late to bet Canilo Alvarez 332 00:16:11,280 --> 00:16:13,440 Speaker 7: because the numbers will just not be in your favor. 333 00:16:14,400 --> 00:16:16,360 Speaker 8: Yeah, basically the same question for you. 334 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:19,360 Speaker 5: But also, you know, let's just move into thoughts on 335 00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:22,080 Speaker 5: like what's at stake here beyond just the title belts, 336 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:25,280 Speaker 5: you know, in terms of legacy for Canelo, this seems 337 00:16:25,320 --> 00:16:27,680 Speaker 5: like a big risk, you know, as a again a 338 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:31,160 Speaker 5: casual boxing fan. Jamal Charlo not a name I really 339 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:33,840 Speaker 5: have in front of mine, Like, seems like a loss 340 00:16:33,840 --> 00:16:35,960 Speaker 5: of Jamel Charlo would really do much more for hurting 341 00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:39,320 Speaker 5: Canelo's legacy than it would for helping Charlo's. And you know, 342 00:16:39,560 --> 00:16:43,240 Speaker 5: I would assume Charlo win, likely close, competitive decision and 343 00:16:43,560 --> 00:16:46,680 Speaker 5: likely to lead to a rematch. But assuming Canelo takes 344 00:16:46,720 --> 00:16:49,120 Speaker 5: care of business here, what's next for him? Are there 345 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:51,480 Speaker 5: any other huge fights on the horizon for him in 346 00:16:51,480 --> 00:16:51,880 Speaker 5: his career? 347 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:55,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, it is definitely a bit of a no win 348 00:16:55,240 --> 00:16:58,840 Speaker 4: situation for Canelo, just in the sense that if he wins, 349 00:16:59,280 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 4: people will be really and to give him credit for 350 00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:04,000 Speaker 4: beating a guy two divisions smaller than he is, and 351 00:17:04,080 --> 00:17:06,760 Speaker 4: if he loses, it is a huge hit to his legacy. 352 00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:09,280 Speaker 4: It's not gonna change the fact that he's waltzing into 353 00:17:09,280 --> 00:17:11,400 Speaker 4: the Hall of Fame on the first ballot that's already 354 00:17:11,440 --> 00:17:12,000 Speaker 4: locked up. 355 00:17:12,920 --> 00:17:14,400 Speaker 6: But you know, his. 356 00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:18,080 Speaker 4: Legacy is actually mostly well established at this point, other 357 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:21,600 Speaker 4: than the possibility that he has some incredible tale to 358 00:17:21,680 --> 00:17:24,879 Speaker 4: his career and has a couple more great years in 359 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:28,280 Speaker 4: him with some huge victories that somehow push him into 360 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:31,760 Speaker 4: the Oh, maybe he surpassed Julio Caesar Shopez as the 361 00:17:31,760 --> 00:17:35,040 Speaker 4: all time greatest from Mexico. That's the potential upside, but 362 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:36,959 Speaker 4: it would take a lot to get there. So his 363 00:17:37,080 --> 00:17:39,359 Speaker 4: legacy is pretty much set. But it is kind of 364 00:17:39,359 --> 00:17:43,280 Speaker 4: a no win situation reputation wise in this particular fight. 365 00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:46,960 Speaker 4: Whereas I think Jermel Charlow is basically fighting for Hall 366 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:50,080 Speaker 4: of Fame consideration, I don't think he has the resume 367 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:51,760 Speaker 4: at this point to get in there. But if you 368 00:17:52,119 --> 00:17:55,720 Speaker 4: add Canelo Alvarez to your record, that changes everything. As 369 00:17:55,760 --> 00:17:58,479 Speaker 4: far as what would come next. Yeah, if Charlo springs 370 00:17:58,480 --> 00:18:01,280 Speaker 4: the upset, I'm sure there would be a rematch. Canelo 371 00:18:01,320 --> 00:18:03,560 Speaker 4: has this new three fight deal with PBC, and it 372 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:05,640 Speaker 4: would make sense for that to be fight number two 373 00:18:06,240 --> 00:18:10,840 Speaker 4: is to take on Charlow again. If this goes according 374 00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:14,680 Speaker 4: to script, whether by pre field scorecard or the sort 375 00:18:14,680 --> 00:18:16,800 Speaker 4: of conventional thinking of what's going to happen in the fight. 376 00:18:16,800 --> 00:18:22,920 Speaker 4: If Canelo wins, then the interesting possibility that the name 377 00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:25,000 Speaker 4: that is starting to get floated out there that I 378 00:18:25,040 --> 00:18:27,159 Speaker 4: don't know how realistic it is, but boy, would it 379 00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:30,800 Speaker 4: be huge. Is this idea of Bud Crawford moving up 380 00:18:30,840 --> 00:18:33,240 Speaker 4: from forty seven to take on Canelo, which I think 381 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:35,720 Speaker 4: is a highly competitive fight even though they are three 382 00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:39,359 Speaker 4: divisions apart. I honestly don't have an easy time picking a. 383 00:18:39,359 --> 00:18:40,200 Speaker 6: Winner in that fight. 384 00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:42,119 Speaker 4: So, I mean, I would love to see something like that, 385 00:18:42,359 --> 00:18:47,480 Speaker 4: But otherwise you're looking at something like Canelo, perhaps taking 386 00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:51,640 Speaker 4: on Jamal charlow to with sort of a Charlo twin 387 00:18:51,680 --> 00:18:56,119 Speaker 4: brother revenge factor as the plot line, or maybe going 388 00:18:56,160 --> 00:18:58,399 Speaker 4: back up and taking that BEVLL rematch. He's got a 389 00:18:58,400 --> 00:19:00,879 Speaker 4: few options to consider if he wins this. And I 390 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:03,040 Speaker 4: saw Brian shaking his head, and yes, I agree, if 391 00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:07,640 Speaker 4: he fought again, bad idea. But he does seem determined 392 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:09,719 Speaker 4: to try to avenge that loss. 393 00:19:10,040 --> 00:19:11,160 Speaker 8: Haven't you guys seen the videos? 394 00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:13,439 Speaker 5: Bud Crawford is going over to MMA, He's got elite 395 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:14,560 Speaker 5: takeout on defense. 396 00:19:14,560 --> 00:19:15,840 Speaker 8: It's getting incredible wrestling. 397 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:16,600 Speaker 6: Now. 398 00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:19,040 Speaker 5: I really think I Bud Crawford wanted to go over 399 00:19:19,080 --> 00:19:19,920 Speaker 5: and compete in MMA. 400 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:20,879 Speaker 2: He would be elite in it. 401 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:24,680 Speaker 5: That guy's just an absolutely insane athlete. Brian, you know, 402 00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:27,080 Speaker 5: same question for you, what what fights do you want 403 00:19:27,080 --> 00:19:28,960 Speaker 5: to see for Canalo before his career ends. 404 00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:32,480 Speaker 7: David Benavidez is the one for me, that's the one 405 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:34,800 Speaker 7: I want to see the most. He's another sort of 406 00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:37,480 Speaker 7: one of the best guys. A super midweight has a title, 407 00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:41,400 Speaker 7: I believe an interim title, but a title, and Canilo Alparez, 408 00:19:41,680 --> 00:19:44,879 Speaker 7: you know, like this would be an all Mexicans showdown. 409 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:47,280 Speaker 7: You could obviously put it, you know, on the West 410 00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:51,119 Speaker 7: coast or in Mexico and it would be huge. David 411 00:19:51,119 --> 00:19:55,159 Speaker 7: Benavidez is not a crossover name, but he's becoming a 412 00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:57,439 Speaker 7: bigger name in boxing at least, and you know that 413 00:19:57,480 --> 00:20:00,119 Speaker 7: counts for something. And he's somebody who had a pay 414 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:02,480 Speaker 7: per view earlier this year where he beat Caleb Plant 415 00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 7: didn't stop him, almost did want a comfortable decision against 416 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:10,240 Speaker 7: a guy who's very credible, who Cano beat before. And 417 00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:13,160 Speaker 7: I think that's sort of the guy that's that would 418 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:16,600 Speaker 7: be the test for me in terms of is Canilo 419 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:20,440 Speaker 7: truly passes prime because David Benavidez profiles as the guy 420 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:25,679 Speaker 7: who is bigger, who is probably stronger. I don't know 421 00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:28,280 Speaker 7: if he's faster. Maybe some people say he would be 422 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:32,840 Speaker 7: other than Canilo Alvarez, and he sort of profiles as 423 00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:35,600 Speaker 7: that guy who can really push an all time great 424 00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:39,399 Speaker 7: like Canilo, who's in the latter stages of his true greatness, 425 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:43,280 Speaker 7: we think to the limits and potentially beat him. I 426 00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:45,840 Speaker 7: just think that if you build somebody to beat Canilo 427 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:48,520 Speaker 7: d Alvarez in this division in a lab, he would 428 00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:49,960 Speaker 7: look a lot like David Benavidez. 429 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:51,720 Speaker 2: He would just probably stay out of trouble a little 430 00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:52,120 Speaker 2: bit more. 431 00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:57,560 Speaker 7: And other than that, the Terrence Crawford one is interesting. 432 00:20:57,640 --> 00:21:00,800 Speaker 7: I just I have a hard time seeing Terrence Crawford 433 00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:03,440 Speaker 7: fight Canelo Alvarez, just because like the weight disparity. 434 00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:06,960 Speaker 2: But I think Terrence Crawford's daring enough to do it. 435 00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:10,320 Speaker 7: I don't know how it benefits Canelo Alvarez to fight 436 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:14,240 Speaker 7: somebody even smaller an Jamalt Charlow, though, And I think 437 00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:17,119 Speaker 7: I think realistically is your name now, Yeah, it's bigger 438 00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:19,359 Speaker 7: name if you're looking at a three fight deal with PBC. 439 00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:22,000 Speaker 7: I think for Canilo Alvarez, what should be next is 440 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:23,800 Speaker 7: honestly David Benefitez. 441 00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:25,640 Speaker 2: Or Jamal Charlo. But Jamal Charlow. 442 00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:27,520 Speaker 7: Hasn't fallen in two years and he needs to get 443 00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:29,760 Speaker 7: back in the ring and find somebody. And I think 444 00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:33,240 Speaker 7: Jamel Charlo is playing with house money where if he's 445 00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:35,560 Speaker 7: competitive at all and loses his fight, then yeah, we'll 446 00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:38,359 Speaker 7: want to see him fight Terrence Crawford at one fifty four. 447 00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:41,720 Speaker 7: He would be the underdog in that fight too. With 448 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:44,280 Speaker 7: I think more at stake, but I think that's sort 449 00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:46,879 Speaker 7: of direction we should be heading at least. 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So I think he just canceled 498 00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:06,960 Speaker 5: the UFC cards for this weekend. He wants to be 499 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:10,359 Speaker 5: home watching Canelo and Charlow and it's my anniversary. I'm 500 00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:15,080 Speaker 5: going to find a way to watch the fights as well. So, gentlemen, Eric, 501 00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:18,399 Speaker 5: I want to start with you first best bet for 502 00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:21,359 Speaker 5: this fight from a pre fight perspective, and then any 503 00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:23,600 Speaker 5: thoughts on a live betting perspective, because we might have 504 00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:25,120 Speaker 5: skipped over you before on that as well. 505 00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:28,919 Speaker 4: Yeah, So first I'll just say that I don't intend 506 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:30,960 Speaker 4: to bet just the straight up money line on either 507 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:34,280 Speaker 4: side on this one. But if I did, I do 508 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:37,640 Speaker 4: think Charlie, I'd sooner go Charlo at three to one 509 00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:40,240 Speaker 4: or so than lay four to one on Canelo. But 510 00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:43,200 Speaker 4: my favorite bet for this fight. I have a few 511 00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:45,720 Speaker 4: wacky props that I like that I'll get to, but 512 00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:49,399 Speaker 4: my favorite, relatively straightforward bet actually kind of flies in 513 00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:51,520 Speaker 4: the face of some of what Brian was saying about 514 00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:55,320 Speaker 4: Canelo fading late in recent fights, and that is true. 515 00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:58,800 Speaker 6: But this is a guy who has thirteen knockouts. 516 00:24:58,359 --> 00:25:00,639 Speaker 4: In his career in the eighth round or late, which 517 00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:04,679 Speaker 4: is a really rare number of knockouts that late. To 518 00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:06,560 Speaker 4: get that high, I had looked up, just for point 519 00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:09,880 Speaker 4: of comparison, Manny Pacio, who had about as many pro 520 00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:12,600 Speaker 4: fights and was a good buncher himself, had eight knockouts 521 00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:15,399 Speaker 4: eighth round or later. Floyd Mayweather same eight in the 522 00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:17,760 Speaker 4: eighth round or later. Thirteen for Canelo is a lot. 523 00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:21,800 Speaker 4: He traditionally has had late power in his career, so 524 00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:27,400 Speaker 4: Canelo ko round seven through twelve. I see this as 525 00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:30,960 Speaker 4: likely a close, competitive fight where it kind of goes 526 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:32,919 Speaker 4: back and forth. They trade some rounds, they each have 527 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:37,040 Speaker 4: some success. But I wonder if Canello, not having had 528 00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:39,399 Speaker 4: a knockout in a little while, is just going to 529 00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:41,560 Speaker 4: be really hungry to step on the gas, put the 530 00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:43,639 Speaker 4: pressure on more as the rounds go on, sort of 531 00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:46,280 Speaker 4: like he did against Caleb Plan and maybe deliver that 532 00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:48,800 Speaker 4: knockout in the second half. And I'm seeing that one 533 00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:51,720 Speaker 4: as high as plus five hundred for a KO in 534 00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:55,280 Speaker 4: the second half of the fight. That's my favorite relatively 535 00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:58,720 Speaker 4: straightforward bet on this fight, as far as a few 536 00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:01,600 Speaker 4: additional bets that I love. If you want to bet 537 00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:03,280 Speaker 4: a little to possibly win a lot. 538 00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:04,840 Speaker 6: You mentioned the. 539 00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:08,119 Speaker 4: Draw eighteen to one. These guys have both had fights, 540 00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:13,360 Speaker 4: and in draws, we know strange things happen on Canelo's scorecards. 541 00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:15,120 Speaker 4: I will know one of the judges on this fight 542 00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:17,679 Speaker 4: is Steve Weisfeld, who is like the best judge in 543 00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:20,960 Speaker 4: the sport by far, and somehow like has avoided pretty 544 00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:23,640 Speaker 4: much ever having a controversial scorecard. So I expect one 545 00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:26,159 Speaker 4: scorecard at least that reflects the fight accurately, but you 546 00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:28,760 Speaker 4: never know about the other two. So a draw at 547 00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:31,800 Speaker 4: eighteen to one is intriguing. I saw a prop on 548 00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:34,880 Speaker 4: Charlow to be knocked down two or more times at 549 00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:38,840 Speaker 4: fourteen to one. You know it's is it likely to happen? No, 550 00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:41,840 Speaker 4: but that's why it's fourteen to one. If Canello can 551 00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:44,160 Speaker 4: drop him once and he gets up and beats the count, 552 00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:46,200 Speaker 4: then there's a good chance he's going to go down again. 553 00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:49,960 Speaker 4: And here's my favorite, absolutely absurd one that I saw 554 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:54,960 Speaker 4: somewhere both fighters to be knocked down at any time 555 00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:59,439 Speaker 4: in rounds one through six. I realize unlikely, right the 556 00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:04,359 Speaker 4: price plus eighteen thousand, one eighty to one. If we 557 00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:07,440 Speaker 4: get that, it's not likely because Canelo has never been 558 00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:09,680 Speaker 4: down in his career. But come on, one hundred eighty 559 00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:12,359 Speaker 4: to one. Put one dollar down to win one hundred 560 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:15,000 Speaker 4: eighty if that happens. I flashed back to Oscar de 561 00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:18,119 Speaker 4: la Hoy against Ike Corte. They created knockdowns in the 562 00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:22,480 Speaker 4: sixth round. If Canelo suffers a flash knockdown, somehow gets 563 00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:24,720 Speaker 4: up one to get revenge, scores a knockdown of his 564 00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:26,560 Speaker 4: own a one eighty to one. 565 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:27,879 Speaker 6: I gotta take a flyer on that. 566 00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:30,040 Speaker 4: And then, just as far as the live betting, I 567 00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:32,240 Speaker 4: do agree with with what Brian was saying. I think 568 00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:35,879 Speaker 4: you're getting pretty good value on Charlo. Now I'm not 569 00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:39,159 Speaker 4: sure you're gonna find better value as the fight wears on. 570 00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:41,720 Speaker 4: And again, because I believe a late knockout from Canelo 571 00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:45,960 Speaker 4: is possible, I'm a little less inclined to bet on 572 00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:47,360 Speaker 4: Charlo mid fight. 573 00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:48,080 Speaker 6: Yeah. 574 00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:50,080 Speaker 5: As soon as you mentioned that you know Canelo late, 575 00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:53,040 Speaker 5: Propa was like, Okay, he's out on Charlot live. Do 576 00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:55,480 Speaker 5: you think the Canelo late knockouts, the fact that he's 577 00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:57,879 Speaker 5: had so many, is a product of the bodywork he 578 00:27:57,920 --> 00:27:58,879 Speaker 5: puts in on opponents. 579 00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:02,880 Speaker 4: Absolutely, that's the body work, in combination with the way 580 00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:06,399 Speaker 4: he'll usually steadily build pressure as a fight wears along. 581 00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:09,960 Speaker 4: Those two things together, Yeah, and then I fully expect 582 00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:13,600 Speaker 4: him to target Charlo's body in this fight. So the 583 00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:17,160 Speaker 4: likelihood of him stopping Charlo in the first six rounds, 584 00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:20,440 Speaker 4: that's fairly remote. It could happen, of course, anything's possible, 585 00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:22,679 Speaker 4: but if he's going to get the stoppage, it's I 586 00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:25,359 Speaker 4: think it's much more likely to happen between seven and twelve. 587 00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:28,439 Speaker 5: Brian, want toss it to you for your favorite ways 588 00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:32,200 Speaker 5: to bet this fight. Eric leaning with a variety of props, 589 00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:34,720 Speaker 5: but Canelo just straight up to win by knockout plus 590 00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:38,320 Speaker 5: two eighty, Charlo plus nine to fifty by knockout Canelo 591 00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:43,040 Speaker 5: minus won twenty by decision Charlo plus forty plus four eighty. 592 00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:45,800 Speaker 5: Any of those props interest you, Brian or you just 593 00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:47,080 Speaker 5: going the straight up money line bet? 594 00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:51,560 Speaker 7: Definitely not because minus four thirty is not something that 595 00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:53,320 Speaker 7: I'm going to entertain with the money line, which I 596 00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:55,640 Speaker 7: think is minus four eighty right now. But I did 597 00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:59,960 Speaker 7: already bet Canilo buy unanimous decision at plus one twenty five, 598 00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:02,760 Speaker 7: So instead of just the decision which is minus one 599 00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:05,320 Speaker 7: fifty when I saw it, I did grab the unanimous 600 00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:06,800 Speaker 7: decision at plus one twenty five. 601 00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:09,120 Speaker 2: That's sort of my favorite bet going into this fight. 602 00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:11,160 Speaker 7: I feel like I feel like it's a safe one 603 00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:14,960 Speaker 7: because while I think Jamal Charlow has moments, has rounds, 604 00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:17,960 Speaker 7: the Canilo Alvarez putting him away on the scorecards is 605 00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:20,400 Speaker 7: just the most likely outcome, and if you could still 606 00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:24,800 Speaker 7: find him, Canidal Alvarez a unanimous decision at plus odds, 607 00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:27,960 Speaker 7: then I would still take that. Now I do have. 608 00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:32,920 Speaker 2: Some wacky bets as well, a few I'm hard. 609 00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:36,520 Speaker 7: I'm going to really focus him on three or four one, 610 00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:40,800 Speaker 7: very similar to what Eric laid out. If Jamal Charlo 611 00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:44,240 Speaker 7: being knocked down between rounds one through six at plus 612 00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:49,400 Speaker 7: six point fifty, and that's something that again, is the 613 00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:54,000 Speaker 7: slow start going to be, you know, sort of hurtful 614 00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:56,959 Speaker 7: enough to where Canido Alvarez could actually catch him early 615 00:29:57,160 --> 00:29:59,760 Speaker 7: flash knockdown. Maybe we saw it, you know, with a 616 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:03,280 Speaker 7: even Tank Davis and Ryan Garcia earlier this year, just 617 00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:05,760 Speaker 7: in the second round. We saw it, and a lot 618 00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:08,920 Speaker 7: more with Terrence Crawford and Arrow Spence. But is that 619 00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:12,640 Speaker 7: something that could happen, right, Jamelo Charlot just gets called early, 620 00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:17,120 Speaker 7: welcome back to the ring after sixteen months, and Canila 621 00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:18,800 Speaker 7: just sort of tests him and finds him early. 622 00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:21,320 Speaker 2: That's something that I like and will probably put not 623 00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:21,880 Speaker 2: a lot. 624 00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:24,160 Speaker 7: On, not putting a lot on any of the long shots, 625 00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:26,080 Speaker 7: but you know, I'll put a little. 626 00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:26,320 Speaker 6: Bit on that. 627 00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:31,480 Speaker 7: And while Canilo has gotten off to good starts and 628 00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:34,120 Speaker 7: then lately has sort of faded latent fights and it's 629 00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:36,600 Speaker 7: really only been like a three fight thing. 630 00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:38,440 Speaker 2: It's happened in his last three fights. 631 00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:43,840 Speaker 7: I still think there's reason to bet Canilo Alvarez to 632 00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:48,040 Speaker 7: win late. I put rounds nine through twelve at plus 633 00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:51,920 Speaker 7: seven hundred because I could actually see this fight unfolding 634 00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:54,040 Speaker 7: a lot like the Caleb Plant fight for some reason, 635 00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:57,360 Speaker 7: and Caleb Plant physically six one seventy four inch reached 636 00:30:57,400 --> 00:31:00,160 Speaker 7: Jamal Charlow six foot seventy three inch reach. I think 637 00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:03,080 Speaker 7: Jamel Charlo could fight in a similar way that Kayla 638 00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:05,600 Speaker 7: Plant did, and Kayla Plant had some success against Canido 639 00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:08,680 Speaker 7: Alvarez at different points, won a few rounds, but ultimately 640 00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:11,600 Speaker 7: got called in the eleventh round, got dropped once, got 641 00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:14,400 Speaker 7: dropped again, got stopped, and Canido Alvarez sort of didn't 642 00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:16,680 Speaker 7: let up after that. But I could see this fight 643 00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:19,320 Speaker 7: sort of happening. If Canilo gets a stoppage, I think 644 00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:21,680 Speaker 7: it's going to be very similar to what he did 645 00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:22,400 Speaker 7: to Kayla Plant. 646 00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:23,640 Speaker 2: So I would take a shot at that. 647 00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:26,240 Speaker 7: That was Canilo to win Rounds nine through twelve plus 648 00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:28,640 Speaker 7: seven hundred as just sort of a long shot. I 649 00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:30,520 Speaker 7: feel like, you know, those are good enough us to 650 00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:33,560 Speaker 7: do it again. Knockout not likely but it wasn't likely 651 00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:36,320 Speaker 7: for Terrence Crawlford narrow spence either, and boy did we 652 00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:41,360 Speaker 7: get one and the next one. This is a let 653 00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:46,080 Speaker 7: me see Canido Alvarez to win by split decision, by 654 00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:48,800 Speaker 7: split decision at plus one thousand and by majority decision 655 00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:51,920 Speaker 7: at plus sixteen hundred. I feel like when the fights, 656 00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:54,000 Speaker 7: you feel like they're going to be pretty close. This 657 00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:56,120 Speaker 7: is just me sort of taking a shot on there 658 00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:59,959 Speaker 7: might be some wackiness with the scorecards, and Jamel Charlow 659 00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:03,640 Speaker 7: maybe you know, wins six rounds on a card when 660 00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:06,200 Speaker 7: he should have won four and then there was no knockdown, 661 00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:08,440 Speaker 7: So wait, there's a one fourteen one to fourteen? How 662 00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:11,240 Speaker 7: did that sneak in there? Boxing is boxing. Sometimes you 663 00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:13,520 Speaker 7: just got to bet on boxing being boxing. There have 664 00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:17,200 Speaker 7: been cards that I've bet on somebody who I wasn't 665 00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:19,160 Speaker 7: sure if they were going to actually get the decision, 666 00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:22,600 Speaker 7: but they're the A side, they got the money behind them, 667 00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:24,920 Speaker 7: So you have to sort of put like a twenty 668 00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:27,880 Speaker 7: percent conspiracy theory bet on it. And I've won that 669 00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:31,280 Speaker 7: way because this sport is this sport. So if Jamel Charlow, 670 00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:34,080 Speaker 7: if it's one of these situations where Jamel Charlow actually 671 00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:37,680 Speaker 7: looks like he deserves to win, looks like he deserves 672 00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:41,240 Speaker 7: the upset. You can still see Knela Alvarez getting the decision. 673 00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:44,600 Speaker 7: So split decision, majority decision. I think maybe a dollar 674 00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:47,600 Speaker 7: or two that'll still buy you lunch lunch in some 675 00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:50,200 Speaker 7: parts of the country at plus one thousand or plus 676 00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:50,960 Speaker 7: sixty hundreds. 677 00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:53,360 Speaker 2: So those are some long shots that I sort of circled, 678 00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:55,840 Speaker 2: and I may look for. 679 00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:58,920 Speaker 7: Some more one eighty to one props that Eric la out, 680 00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:01,440 Speaker 7: because if you tell of me, I could put that 681 00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:03,640 Speaker 7: one dollar and if the wacky thing happens, I get 682 00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:05,880 Speaker 7: one hundred and eighty, then I might I might be 683 00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:07,600 Speaker 7: set for you know, a day or two. 684 00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:08,080 Speaker 6: Yeah. 685 00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:11,680 Speaker 4: I mean remember with with Spence Crawford, the the wacky 686 00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:13,600 Speaker 4: one that I threw out on that was a knockdown 687 00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:15,800 Speaker 4: in the first four rounds at sixteen to one, and 688 00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:17,560 Speaker 4: we all were like, Eh, it's not gonna happen, but 689 00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:20,520 Speaker 4: that's a nice price, and then it happened. So you 690 00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:22,800 Speaker 4: don't want to not bet this, and then it happens, 691 00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:24,640 Speaker 4: and then and then you're kicking yourself forever. 692 00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:27,280 Speaker 5: You also you also mentioned the the worst bet you 693 00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:29,240 Speaker 5: had ever seen, which was under two and a half 694 00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:29,960 Speaker 5: or under. 695 00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:31,160 Speaker 6: One and a half, not under one and a half. 696 00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:34,440 Speaker 5: Yeah, minus one million, and that would have ended up losing. 697 00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:37,760 Speaker 5: So it was indeed the worst bet you had ever seen, 698 00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:39,440 Speaker 5: and the worst bet you had ever seen would have 699 00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:43,680 Speaker 5: lost that one eighty to one. That Brian referenced that 700 00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:47,520 Speaker 5: was both fighters to score knockout in rounds one through six, correct. 701 00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:50,120 Speaker 4: Eric, right, both fighters have to touch the canvas in 702 00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:51,800 Speaker 4: the first six rounds for that one to pay. 703 00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:54,240 Speaker 5: And the other bets that the guys mentioned Charlotte to 704 00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:57,040 Speaker 5: score two plus knockdowns at plus fourteen hundred at Canelo 705 00:33:57,120 --> 00:34:00,280 Speaker 5: to win by KO in round seven through twelve plus 706 00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:03,160 Speaker 5: five hundred, the draw at plus eighteen hundred could see 707 00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:07,240 Speaker 5: being worth a sprinkle Canelo by unanimous decision. Brian like 708 00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:09,840 Speaker 5: that if you can get plus money to score a 709 00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:12,480 Speaker 5: knockdown in rounds one through six, at plus six fifty 710 00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:15,360 Speaker 5: to win by KO in rounds nine through twelve plus 711 00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:19,080 Speaker 5: seven hundred split decision for Canelo plus one thousand and 712 00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:23,440 Speaker 5: majority decision plus sixteen hundred. Guys, you really like this 713 00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:26,160 Speaker 5: fight card too, beyond the main event, And I'm curious 714 00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:29,799 Speaker 5: what other undercard bets you might have the most identifiable 715 00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:32,680 Speaker 5: name for me was your Dennis Ugas fighting I believe 716 00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:37,440 Speaker 5: right before Canelo. I doubt you're laying minus sixty to 717 00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:40,480 Speaker 5: bet the Cuban, But any bets that you really like 718 00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:43,000 Speaker 5: on this undercard, Brian gonna start with you first. 719 00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:46,720 Speaker 7: So your Dennis Ugas is the co feature. He's fighting 720 00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:51,280 Speaker 7: Mario Barrios, which apparently is an interim title fight somehow, 721 00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:54,759 Speaker 7: but you know whatever boxing, you know it happens. Oh Gas. 722 00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:58,240 Speaker 7: We haven't seen him since Aaro Spence stopped him last April, 723 00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:00,880 Speaker 7: so we talk about long layoffs. This is a seventeen 724 00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:03,840 Speaker 7: month one for your Dennis Ugas, who had an eye issue, 725 00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:05,320 Speaker 7: so he's been out of the rink for a while, 726 00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:10,560 Speaker 7: but famously defeated many Pakiao Manny Pacio's last fight probably 727 00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:13,480 Speaker 7: should have gotten the nod against Sean Porter when they fought, 728 00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:16,080 Speaker 7: and uh yeah, your Dennis Ugas. 729 00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:16,960 Speaker 2: Is very, very skilled. 730 00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:19,520 Speaker 7: I bet him to beat Mario Barrios by decision at 731 00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:21,920 Speaker 7: minus one ten when I. 732 00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:23,640 Speaker 2: Got it, that was earlier this week. 733 00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:26,960 Speaker 7: So while I think Mario Barrios is very skilled, I 734 00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:29,600 Speaker 7: think Ugas is just better and I think he'll win 735 00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:32,439 Speaker 7: that fight. But you know, Barrios, I consider him at 736 00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:35,480 Speaker 7: a live dog for that fight because he's actually you know, he's. 737 00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:37,439 Speaker 2: Not I'm not worried about ring Russ with him. 738 00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:41,240 Speaker 7: So I could even talk myself into betting Ugas live 739 00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:43,520 Speaker 7: because he may get off to a slow start for 740 00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:45,080 Speaker 7: the first round or two because he hasn't been in 741 00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:47,160 Speaker 7: the ring for a long time. So that's something that 742 00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:49,840 Speaker 7: I would sort of track. Eliza Garcia is in a 743 00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:52,719 Speaker 7: very fun fight with Jose Resendez, and Eliza Garcia is 744 00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:54,520 Speaker 7: sort of one of these up and coming prospects. 745 00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:59,120 Speaker 2: Zendez he beat Jared Hurd earlier this year, which was 746 00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:03,160 Speaker 2: an upset, and Elijah Garcia I think wins this fight. Now. 747 00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:07,120 Speaker 7: A knockout was plus one ten, decision was plus one seventy. 748 00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:09,960 Speaker 7: I went with a knockout. I wouldn't put a lot 749 00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:12,040 Speaker 7: on it. Though Rizendas has never been stopped, he has 750 00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:14,680 Speaker 7: been dropped, he has never been stopped. But Elijah Garcia 751 00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:17,000 Speaker 7: has got heavy hands and I think he could finish him. 752 00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:22,960 Speaker 7: And the most entertaining fight on this card arguably or 753 00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:25,359 Speaker 7: at least safe for the main event his Who's Ramos 754 00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:26,400 Speaker 7: and ericson Lubin. 755 00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:29,320 Speaker 2: You want to talk about some heavy hitters on this card. 756 00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:31,680 Speaker 2: I bet Hessu's. 757 00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:36,080 Speaker 7: Ramos to win by knockout minus one fifty knockout or TKO. 758 00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:40,120 Speaker 7: Not like tremendous value there, but I think that's the 759 00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:43,800 Speaker 7: outcome ericson. Lubin's been stopped twice before, once by Jamel 760 00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:47,360 Speaker 7: Charlow in the first round and also against Sebastian Fundora, 761 00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:49,600 Speaker 7: but he pushed them and dropped Fundora in that fight. 762 00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:50,400 Speaker 2: So I think. 763 00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:52,080 Speaker 7: Ramos, you know, he'd be pushed a little more than 764 00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:55,400 Speaker 7: he was against Joey Spencer. But Lubin's a great challenge 765 00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:57,960 Speaker 7: for him. But Hiss Ramos could come out looking like 766 00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:00,440 Speaker 7: the sort of star, the show stealer of the night, 767 00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:02,560 Speaker 7: because I think a lot of people could potentially be 768 00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:05,040 Speaker 7: very impressed with what he breaks at a table to 769 00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:08,360 Speaker 7: a guy who's been a contender, been at championship level 770 00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:10,280 Speaker 7: and has fought in big fights before. 771 00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:13,120 Speaker 5: So is your Dennis Ugus by decision minus won ten 772 00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:16,120 Speaker 5: and maybe an Ugus live entry Elijah Garcia by KO 773 00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:19,080 Speaker 5: at plus one seventy, and then his is Ramos by 774 00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:25,320 Speaker 5: KO at minus one fifty. Eric favorite undercard beats favorite 775 00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:27,160 Speaker 5: fights you're looking forward to you're looking forward to that 776 00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:28,080 Speaker 5: Ramos fight as well. 777 00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:32,319 Speaker 4: Oh absolutely that the whole undercard is stacked in a 778 00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:35,000 Speaker 4: way that pay per view undercards for boxing usually are not. 779 00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:37,960 Speaker 4: This is this is the card that will tell you, 780 00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:40,719 Speaker 4: based on when people arrive for your pay per view party, 781 00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:43,080 Speaker 4: whether they're serious boxing fans or not. This is one 782 00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:44,839 Speaker 4: where if you just roll in for the main event, 783 00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:45,960 Speaker 4: you're not a real fight fan. 784 00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:48,680 Speaker 6: But I love the whole undercard. 785 00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:52,120 Speaker 4: Ramos Lubin co feature is fascinating and I kind of 786 00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:55,520 Speaker 4: was leaning on that one toward the Ramos by Ko 787 00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:58,239 Speaker 4: in the first six rounds at plus three hundred, just 788 00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:02,279 Speaker 4: because Lubin has proven a little chinny, sometimes a lot 789 00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:04,280 Speaker 4: chinny in the case of his fight with Charlow actually 790 00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:07,800 Speaker 4: where he got stopped in the first round. So chance 791 00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:10,640 Speaker 4: of a Ramos early stoppage there if it turns into 792 00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:13,640 Speaker 4: a real trading punches kind of war. I agree with 793 00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:16,000 Speaker 4: what Brian was saying that Ramo says, this this real 794 00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:18,320 Speaker 4: star potential and this could be the fight that really 795 00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:22,239 Speaker 4: establishes him as that next big thing. I had the 796 00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:25,200 Speaker 4: exact same bet on the Elijah Garcia fight. Garcia by 797 00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:27,399 Speaker 4: Ko is my favorite. That one I think I think 798 00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:30,239 Speaker 4: you said plus one ten on that, right, Brian was 799 00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:33,000 Speaker 4: supposed to tell Yeah, that was what I saw, And 800 00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:34,120 Speaker 4: that one. 801 00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:35,520 Speaker 6: I like quite a bit. 802 00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:39,120 Speaker 4: Ugus Barrios is the toughest one for me to bet, 803 00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:43,280 Speaker 4: also probably the one I'm looking forward to the least 804 00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:45,760 Speaker 4: of the three, though I am still looking forward to it. 805 00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:48,799 Speaker 4: It just stylistically, I'm not quite sure what to expect on. 806 00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:51,680 Speaker 6: And that one. Again, I'm kind of drawn toward another 807 00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:53,640 Speaker 6: draw that that one. 808 00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:58,040 Speaker 4: I'm seeing sixteen to one on the draw Barrios Ugas. 809 00:38:57,840 --> 00:39:00,719 Speaker 4: It could be that kind of fight. So if I'm 810 00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:02,359 Speaker 4: going to bet that one, which I may just stay 811 00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:04,839 Speaker 4: away entirely. But if I am, rather than taking a side, 812 00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:07,640 Speaker 4: I may just go ahead and plunk a couple bucks 813 00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:09,080 Speaker 4: down on the draw at sixteen to one. 814 00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:11,640 Speaker 2: I love a draw for that fight, by the way. 815 00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:12,760 Speaker 2: I love a draw. 816 00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:14,680 Speaker 6: It has that kind of potential, right, Yeah. 817 00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:17,200 Speaker 2: I'm probably gonna put a couple dollars on that actually. 818 00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:21,680 Speaker 5: All right, so o gos draw plus sixteen hundred main 819 00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:24,799 Speaker 5: event draw plus eighteen hundred parlayed three hundred. 820 00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:26,399 Speaker 8: And twenty two to one. 821 00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:30,120 Speaker 5: I will not be here after next week because I 822 00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:33,840 Speaker 5: will be living on an island, just with all that money. 823 00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:37,680 Speaker 5: For Eric Raskin, for Brian Sponseke. 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