Speaker 1: It's hard to do this episode. And you know, I'll
Speaker 1: even be honest, I didn't know if I should be
Speaker 1: here or not. Just have you guys talk.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we thought you should be with us, just because
Speaker 2: this is so hard for both of us and maybe
Speaker 2: you can help us out a little.
Speaker 3: You're a fan, You're a true, true fan.
Speaker 1: So yeah, it's like, you know, and I've been I've
Speaker 1: been lucky enough to get to work with Shannon for
Speaker 1: the last year, which some people know and some people don't.
Speaker 1: We couldn't. We can't do the show, this show, this podcast.
Speaker 1: If there was no Shannon, there's no nine O two one, oh,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And so it's like the
Speaker 1: thing that I knew is it's like I do want
Speaker 1: to keep watching the show, of course, but we couldn't
Speaker 1: just come back and start talking about, you know, the episode.
Speaker 2: This is so hard for everybody. We just have to
Speaker 2: kind of talk it out, and.
Speaker 1: It's like, we do want to keep watching. And the
Speaker 1: thing that I know from working with Shannon is she
Speaker 1: wants her podcast to continue, you know. So it's like
Speaker 1: we will recap the shows again, we will keep doing it,
Speaker 1: but for right now, we just you know, I want
Speaker 1: you guys to talk about how you're feeling, and also
Speaker 1: like honor Shannon with stories and memories, and they had
Speaker 1: such an important time together. I had a I went
Speaker 1: to dinner last night with some kids that are like
Speaker 1: in high school, right, and they're talking about the shows
Speaker 1: they're watching, and one of the dads was like, you
Speaker 1: guys should have watched nine O two one O, And
Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, they should. So I don't know. I mean,
Speaker 1: how are you guys doing, feeling what's coming to your
Speaker 1: minds to say?
Speaker 3: For me, I honestly, as you know, didn't want to
Speaker 3: do this. I just emotionally didn't feel ready. And I
Speaker 3: feel like I know a lot of people are speaking
Speaker 3: out and giving lovely tributes to her in her memory,
Speaker 3: but I just, oh, I obviously wanted to do this
Speaker 3: for the fans, so this episode is for them, not
Speaker 3: for us.
Speaker 1: How are you doing? How are you doing, Jenny? How
Speaker 1: are you doing? Tori? Like, what are you feeling?
Speaker 3: Not doing well?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 1: Do you feel like you're okay? It's like let it out.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think people were shocked, which seems like.
Speaker 2: It's crazy that we could be shocked knowing that she
Speaker 2: was sick and knowing how hard she was fighting, but
Speaker 2: it's still felt shocking.
Speaker 3: I guess it was just that belief that she fought
Speaker 3: so hard and was such a warrior and she has
Speaker 3: shown her entire life and career and you're everything that
Speaker 3: she can get past anything. So although we know answer
Speaker 3: is so evil and takes everyone that we love, it
Speaker 3: just I don't know. I guess she made you believe
Speaker 3: that she was the one that would make it and
Speaker 3: she was so hopeful.
Speaker 2: Yeah that's so true, because why I never thought that
Speaker 2: she would succumb to cancer, Like I just knowing what
Speaker 2: we know about her, and you know what a tough
Speaker 2: like fighter, strong, it just seems you're right, like I
Speaker 2: would never get her. And then when it did, it
Speaker 2: was just shocking and like makes you mad, makes you pissed, mad, sad,
Speaker 2: all the feelings because and then like what the h
Speaker 2: because she's the one person that you didn't I don't know,
Speaker 2: just didn't see this happening.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, you're you're right. She had so much to
Speaker 1: say on her podcast that was really important, you know,
Speaker 1: like she was who she was. She was tough, tough cookie, right,
Speaker 1: and I admired it so much and she was having
Speaker 1: conversations and sharing things that a lot of people are
Speaker 1: really not willing to do, to put themselves out there
Speaker 1: in that way and be so vulnerable and so open
Speaker 1: and so real that it was really empowering what she
Speaker 1: was doing. And I just wish you could have kept
Speaker 1: doing that because I think it was it was helping people.
Speaker 2: A lot. It was helping people, I think, find their
Speaker 2: own strength within them by just hearing her story and
Speaker 2: hearing how she's found her strength. Like I feel like
Speaker 2: that was helping a lot of people suffering from cancer
Speaker 2: or dealing with cancer or whatever.
Speaker 1: And even like you know, my last text with Shannon
Speaker 1: were about Catherine Heigel. We had this really amazing interview
Speaker 1: she did with Catherine Heigel. It was great, and I'm
Speaker 1: so grateful. I'm so grateful to Catherine Heigel for doing it,
Speaker 1: you know, because Catherine doesn't do that that many interviews,
Speaker 1: and she really wanted to do it. And Shannon was
Speaker 1: so happy, isn't the right word, so motivated to have
Speaker 1: that conversation with two people who had, you know, really
Speaker 1: put themselves on the line, you know, like it or not,
Speaker 1: they really did for themselves and for other people. And
Speaker 1: so after the interview. It's a really great conversation they had,
Speaker 1: and so I just you know, texted with Shannon just
Speaker 1: to say, like how pumped I was about it. Like
Speaker 1: it really filled me with feelings that these two people
Speaker 1: who I admire got to have this great conversation and
Speaker 1: she was so happy about it. And she still, you know, Shannon,
Speaker 1: and I won't say this exact text, but she's so her,
Speaker 1: do you know what I mean? Like she really is
Speaker 1: authentically and so I just felt like she had so
Speaker 1: many more conversations like that to have. So that's sort
Speaker 1: of where I was at. Well.
Speaker 3: I think it's amazing in the last year that she
Speaker 3: was able to partner with you and do her podcast.
Speaker 1: And speaking, and that's why I wanted you guys, you know,
Speaker 1: and I did. I will say I pressured Torri and
Speaker 1: Jenny to get on with me today. They're not ready,
Speaker 1: but I felt like talking it's important, you know, like
Speaker 1: it is grieving together.
Speaker 3: And I guess everyone grieves in their own time. I
Speaker 3: think for me, the beauty of her nine to two
Speaker 3: and OHO fans specifically is even ones that I've been
Speaker 3: talking to on social media. There's one fan that's such
Speaker 3: a huge fan of the show, and she was saying,
Speaker 3: she's her friends are like it's been a week, you know,
Speaker 3: get out of the funk. You know, you only met
Speaker 3: her once. And she was like, she meant so much
Speaker 3: more to me than someone I met once. She was
Speaker 3: in my entire childhood and it's like losing a best
Speaker 3: friend from high school. And I think that's how people
Speaker 3: everywhere feel.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's very sad, and it's also just so scary.
Speaker 1: Is that the word scary? It's like scary, Like, how
Speaker 1: does that happen? Sorry, Jenny, we're gonna say something.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean no, it is scary if someone that
Speaker 2: you look up to like that can cannot make it
Speaker 2: like it makes. It made me feel very fearful, especially
Speaker 2: just with Luke dying and now Shannon. I just feel
Speaker 2: like like, I don't know, I just it could be
Speaker 2: any of us could go at any moment that kind
Speaker 2: of feeling, which, yeah, that's scary.
Speaker 1: It's our my I'll just speak for myself. It's you know,
Speaker 1: a show that I just really impacted my seen and
Speaker 1: college years, right, and so for someone and a few
Speaker 1: people to be gone from that is scary. It's uncomfortable.
Speaker 1: It's worrisome. It's a bit too real for me, whereas
Speaker 1: like when I watched the show, it's just such a
Speaker 1: It's not even just like I'm watching the show. It's
Speaker 1: this part of my upbringing. So I watch it and
Speaker 1: I enjoy it, but I'm also it takes me right
Speaker 1: back to these my own memories. So it just makes
Speaker 1: it too real and it takes me out of this
Speaker 1: joy I have for this show. I don't know.
Speaker 3: Me, it doesn't I've spent my whole life living in fear,
Speaker 3: and I've always been a fearful person, and I didn't
Speaker 3: feel fear at all when she passed.
Speaker 2: I just.
Speaker 3: Felt sad. I felt sad for the second chapter she had,
Speaker 3: and I was so excited for that chapter for her
Speaker 3: and wanted her so badly to have that.
Speaker 1: M do you feel grateful for the time that you
Speaker 1: had recently? Like, I'm so glad Tori that you guys
Speaker 1: really had that conversation. I do.
Speaker 3: I do. I've had a lot of death in my life,
Speaker 3: and I don't believe in regrets, but I have a
Speaker 3: lot of regrets that I didn't have that time to
Speaker 3: have a second chance to get fast stuff from the
Speaker 3: past and look at all the good things and really
Speaker 3: talk it out and.
Speaker 1: I have.
Speaker 3: That last conversation, and I feel like she and I
Speaker 3: had that, and I'm super grateful for that.
Speaker 1: You know, I know that you're I don't want to
Speaker 1: put words in your mouth, but I know that you're
Speaker 1: glad you had time together at the recent con.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we got to see each other once in a while,
Speaker 2: but I was thinking definitely of you tour and.
Speaker 3: How h.
Speaker 2: Happy you must have been to have that time with
Speaker 2: her and and to have that sort of mm just
Speaker 2: reconnection on a on a deeper level as both of you,
Speaker 2: you know, matured and grown and learned so much that
Speaker 2: I was thinking of. You know, I wished that I
Speaker 2: had had that opportunity because I didn't really get to
Speaker 2: sit down and have like heartfelt conversation with her recently.
Speaker 2: But I was very glad that you.
Speaker 3: Did you as well, and I wish you had had
Speaker 3: that mm hmm.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I'd love to hear, like I know,
Speaker 1: people listening, like, is there a memory or a story
Speaker 1: back from nine o two one oh that's come back
Speaker 1: into your mind? You know, I don't know. I haven't
Speaker 1: asked you guys that if there's something that you know that.
Speaker 1: You keep thinking about about Shannon seeing all the pictures too.
Speaker 1: I have to say, it's like, you're so lucky that
Speaker 1: you have those photos and you know, videotape of such
Speaker 1: cool things.
Speaker 3: It's interesting when I think about that when you say
Speaker 3: are there stories, and in my mind, like I'm replaying everything,
Speaker 3: it's all the memories, not on camera. It'd stay with me,
Speaker 3: not on camera.
Speaker 2: That's so true.
Speaker 3: But I like, I can see right now the very
Speaker 3: first scene Jen and Shannon and I had together at
Speaker 3: Marian Moore's party. Yeah, it was a night scene that house.
Speaker 2: M hm. That was our first scene together, I believe.
Speaker 3: So maybe there was one other thing, but that's the
Speaker 3: one that sticks out to me that was Maybe it
Speaker 3: wasn't our first scene, but it was the first time
Speaker 3: I remember the three of us really bonding and me
Speaker 3: thinking like, we're all gonna be friends like this, this
Speaker 3: is more than just being on camera. I was hopeful
Speaker 3: for like to fit in with you guys, and and
Speaker 3: you both were so accepting me. Yeah, I remember that night.
Speaker 3: It's just laughing. I mean, we filmed all night till
Speaker 3: the sun came up, which was a lot for teenagers,
Speaker 3: you know. It wasn't as adults. Like now we're like
Speaker 3: hardened to the process of like filming all night, we're
Speaker 3: just so used to it. Like back then, like it
Speaker 3: was a lot and they were exciting. Yeah, it was
Speaker 3: like a party. Yeah, yeah, minus the alcohol.
Speaker 1: Fun. It's almost fun when you think about I mean
Speaker 1: when I think about that for you guys, but also
Speaker 1: like that age, even working all night is fun. We
Speaker 1: need to like try to get that again, do you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like on the joy of that.
Speaker 2: I was remembering like there was times like after we
Speaker 2: stopped filming and I was newly divorced, I think, and
Speaker 2: she took a special interest to whoever I was dating.
Speaker 2: She wanted to meet them, basically vet them. I guess
Speaker 2: I didn't really see it at the time, and I
Speaker 2: was kind of like, okay, because you know, I don't
Speaker 2: think she really knew Peter that well, but she was.
Speaker 2: She We went to dinner with two of my quote
Speaker 2: unquote boyfriends during that weird time, and I just remember
Speaker 2: her just really truly checking them out from across the
Speaker 2: table and assessing them. And then I would be like,
Speaker 2: what do you think.
Speaker 1: And she would tell me, M, yeah, I mean I
Speaker 1: think that's what you're saying. In my you know, limited
Speaker 1: experience with her in the last year, she's quite brilliant.
Speaker 1: Like she really was very talented producer, and she could
Speaker 1: sit down at the microphone, open it up and just
Speaker 1: talk and that our team that you know is listening,
Speaker 1: is just hanging on every word. She really was an
Speaker 1: amazingly beautiful storyteller in this medium, you know what I mean. Like,
Speaker 1: I think I wish she found it sooner because I
Speaker 1: think she was so suited to just talking storytelling so articulate.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think maybe that's a side of her
Speaker 3: that I ever knew as a teenager in my twenties.
Speaker 3: I mean, I knew she was smart and funny and
Speaker 3: and authentic and honest about everything, but I don't think
Speaker 3: it was until her podcast and also to be honest,
Speaker 3: doing like these conventions, doing the cons where she would
Speaker 3: she was just so smart about business.
Speaker 1: Like when you guys would be out at those cons
Speaker 1: and fans would get to be with her, what was
Speaker 1: that like, Like do they just react to her?
Speaker 3: They do. I mean, I think they react to everyone
Speaker 3: on my on tono, But I think maybe she stood
Speaker 3: for something else to them, Yeah, than we all did,
Speaker 3: Like she was not just you know, their childhood friend
Speaker 3: that they had grown up watching, but she was someone
Speaker 3: so strong and such a fighter and going through so
Speaker 3: much that on some level they could relate to her.
Speaker 3: Whether it was a relative they had or a friend
Speaker 3: that was going through it, or them or they themselves
Speaker 3: was going they were going through a hard time, or
Speaker 3: a students she was that person for them, that mentor
Speaker 3: to look up to to keep going.
Speaker 1: Think about that standing ovation. Were you both there for that? Yeah,
Speaker 1: when she came out, what a moment. There was so
Speaker 1: much more.
Speaker 3: In that and that was hard for her to take,
Speaker 3: which that surprised me that day on stage because she
Speaker 3: was so good with everyone and so you know, she
Speaker 3: never got nervous. She never going on stage never bothered her.
Speaker 3: I don't think I ever saw her get nervous about
Speaker 3: anything other than her fight cancer. But like, and I
Speaker 3: could see in her face like she was just so
Speaker 3: moved and it took a lot for her to show feelings.
Speaker 3: You know, that meant a lot to her.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she was definitely overcome with everybody's love for her,
Speaker 2: for sure. I mean just think about like where all
Speaker 2: the things that she'd been through as far as like
Speaker 2: fans loving or hating her and all. You know, she's
Speaker 2: been on the other side of that, so to feel
Speaker 2: that kind of love from her fans, I'm sure that
Speaker 2: was just like medicine for her heart, you.
Speaker 1: Know, overwhelming. All it's overwhelming. I mean, it's very It's
Speaker 1: been so beautiful to see. I mean even like on
Speaker 1: my Instagram, my entire whatever it's called for you age
Speaker 1: is just so much shamnon right, And it's like I
Speaker 1: got a lot of calls. People were very impacted by
Speaker 1: her their whole life, do you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Like through nine o two one, oh, of course, but
Speaker 1: then she was so public about her battle and I
Speaker 1: think it connected her with people. So I do feel
Speaker 1: like your friend Torri that you were talking about, who
Speaker 1: even just met her once, Like, yeah, I get it.
Speaker 1: It impacted that person very deeply.
Speaker 2: It's true.
Speaker 3: I keep going back to her podcast page on Instagram
Speaker 3: and is it the pinned one, the on camera right,
Speaker 3: it's depended one. I think the episode where she's talking
Speaker 3: about she's starting a new treatment and or she says
Speaker 3: she feels hopeful, and I just keep I find myself
Speaker 3: going and just rewatching that probably far too many times
Speaker 3: than I should a day.
Speaker 1: But it's yeah, yeah, I mean she was working non stop. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and she liked it, you know, I can she wanted to.
Speaker 1: But to have that strength, I know that, I I
Speaker 1: mean I couldn't like. I admire it so much because
Speaker 1: it's like wow, to have that inner strength, to just
Speaker 1: be able to be working even if you don't feel good,
Speaker 1: is like unbelievable, and I think about so many people
Speaker 1: that do that. I frankly don't actually know how she
Speaker 1: did it because it's so unbelievable, and it does make
Speaker 1: me want to be like that, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: like be a little tougher, be a little stronger. And
Speaker 1: also I feel very feel, very responsible to continue what
Speaker 1: she was doing. I think it's why I wanted you
Speaker 1: guys to come on today talk about it, because I
Speaker 1: continue to fight for what she was so passionate about.
Speaker 1: You know, have these amazing doctors and these amazing people
Speaker 1: and these amazing advocates share their stories. Because she was unfinished.
Speaker 1: That was sort of work I think is so hard.
Speaker 1: Is like her work was not done, and so I
Speaker 1: do feel like it's on you, it's on me, It's
Speaker 1: on us, it's on all of us listening to continue that.
Speaker 1: I've been so touched by the people that are like,
Speaker 1: please don't turn this Instagram off, her Instagram, her show Instagram,
Speaker 1: or her show because the message is so important. So,
Speaker 1: you know, I think that's why I wanted you guys
Speaker 1: to come on. It's just to say how you're feeling,
Speaker 1: so that other people know that what they're feeling is okay.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that in general, I think everybody should
Speaker 2: feel you know. I feel like I got so much
Speaker 2: strength from just knowing her as a young girl, growing
Speaker 2: up beside her for the years that I did, and
Speaker 2: I learned a lot, you know, about how to stand
Speaker 2: up for myself, how to fight for things that I
Speaker 2: believed in, and I saw I saw at times that
Speaker 2: not work in her benefit from other people's perspectives. But
Speaker 2: I also saw that she was saying what she needed
Speaker 2: to say, and I thought, I want to be like that.
Speaker 2: I want to be a person that use my voice
Speaker 2: and says what I need to say. And so she
Speaker 2: did inspire me in that is in one way that
Speaker 2: she inspired me.
Speaker 1: Yes, I think people looking back, she got such a
Speaker 1: hard time at the time, and looking back, it's one
Speaker 1: of the things that's the most spectacular about her, which
Speaker 1: is so such is life, right, and that people now
Speaker 1: so admire her for that almost like we need to
Speaker 1: learn from that, you know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was a different time m hm. To Jen's point,
Speaker 3: I feel the same way, except I didn't put it
Speaker 3: into action. Like she would always encourage me to use
Speaker 3: my voice and I didn't. You can and you do
Speaker 3: now and that yeah, in the last year. That's something
Speaker 3: that it was nice to be encourage that when I
Speaker 3: was young, but I was too young and in the
Speaker 3: middle of it to understand my worth to do that.
Speaker 3: And it was nice to hear her tell me that
Speaker 3: as an adult and be like I can't. I can't.
Speaker 3: And but when she's like, you can, and I heard
Speaker 3: it this time, I'm grateful.
Speaker 2: For that.
Speaker 3: And I will.
Speaker 1: Yeah. That's yeah, you should because you honor that way.
Speaker 2: Totally. Yeah, she's going to be looking down on you
Speaker 2: and so proud of every moment that you stand up
Speaker 2: for yourself and use your voice. I can just see
Speaker 2: her applauding you, just loving it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I I realize also how hard it
Speaker 1: must have been for you guys when you lost Luke
Speaker 1: Perry I didn't realize it at the time, but now
Speaker 1: I realize. I mean, that must have just been no
Speaker 1: words and then for you to go through it again
Speaker 1: so soon. You know, I'm really sorry, Like I know
Speaker 1: that I wish I had better words because I know
Speaker 1: both of you. It's very hard. It's a piece of.
Speaker 3: You, Yeah, it is.
Speaker 2: It's like a piece of your found that y'all never
Speaker 2: no one will ever really understand unless they were there
Speaker 2: with us then they went through the experience with us.
Speaker 2: It's it's kind of hard to for me. It's kind
Speaker 2: of hard to believe that other people understand that connection.
Speaker 2: I know for you tour, you guys spend a lot
Speaker 2: more time with each other like as friends like in
Speaker 2: the real world. And I know I've just been thinking
Speaker 2: a lot about you and your loss and sending you
Speaker 2: a lot of hugs you too.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Jen and I have talked a lot over the
Speaker 3: years that the connection hm that we all had, it's
Speaker 3: just we always do say it's something no one can
Speaker 3: quite underst stand.
Speaker 1: It was.
Speaker 3: So unique.
Speaker 1: How do you feel about going? I know you guys
Speaker 1: have a strip coming up, right, Like, isn't there a
Speaker 1: a con a reunion sort of soon? Is there one soon?
Speaker 1: Do you want to go?
Speaker 2: Do you want to I don't want to go. I
Speaker 2: don't want to go. I mean just for the far
Speaker 2: like absence of her there. I think though there's part
Speaker 2: of me that does want to go to try to
Speaker 2: like give our fans are her fans specifically, just some love,
Speaker 2: just some connection from you know us that that's who
Speaker 2: they associated all with. You know, it's not going to
Speaker 2: be easy.
Speaker 1: Though, Yeah I would what do I know? But I
Speaker 1: would say it would mean so much to so many
Speaker 1: people to see you all together. Even though I get it,
Speaker 1: my instinct would be the like hide in my closet,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like it would be so hard,
Speaker 1: but it's like if you have that strength.
Speaker 3: I feel like it's going to be And this is
Speaker 3: totally two separate things, but it's like when we did
Speaker 3: beh nine O two and zero and we were all
Speaker 3: together and Luke wasn't there, you know, and I know
Speaker 3: this is just a convention, but it's.
Speaker 1: No, it's not. It's you all being together. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: get it.
Speaker 3: Each nine O two zero was all of us realizing
Speaker 3: because we were all together, and us all week together
Speaker 3: as a group hit us harder that Luke wasn't there.
Speaker 2: You know, there was just this gaping hole.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I assume that a conventions because the last
Speaker 3: one all of us were together as a unit's one
Speaker 3: and age. Yeah, so it'll be at the same time
Speaker 3: that we impacts us where we impact all the fans
Speaker 3: as well to see that she's not there.
Speaker 2: But we have to. I mean, I feel like I
Speaker 2: need to try to be strong through that and give
Speaker 2: them us, you know, because that will make them feel better.
Speaker 2: Because I know that it made us feel better to
Speaker 2: be together after Luke passed away. Yeah, there was some
Speaker 2: comfort in that.
Speaker 1: So it's tough. Makes you know, you want to reach
Speaker 1: out to each other too, you know. I was so happy.
Speaker 1: I was very happy to talk to Brian last week,
Speaker 1: you know, and it was his birthday. Oh you know,
Speaker 1: I uh, it makes me sad for you, guys. I'm
Speaker 1: really sad for you. Guys. I'm really sorry. I'm really
Speaker 1: sad for you. I'm so sad to think.
Speaker 2: Of It's like death is hard enough, you know, dealing
Speaker 2: with grief and losing someone, but then two always be
Speaker 2: sort of like cemented in people's minds and their memories
Speaker 2: as us together, you know, So then one of us
Speaker 2: is not there, and then another one of us is
Speaker 2: not there. It's just like this weird like undealt with loss,
Speaker 2: like yeah, yeah, it's really difficult to explain, honestly.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think for me, what I can say is
Speaker 1: what a nice group of people you all are. Like,
Speaker 1: I know it's complicated, I know there's so much, but
Speaker 1: what a nice, truly nice group of people. Every single
Speaker 1: one of you, every single one of you really hind
Speaker 1: hind people. That's what I can say, because you know
Speaker 1: each of you so unique. I've been so lucky to
Speaker 1: get to work with most of you and know almost
Speaker 1: all of you. What a kind, magical group of people.
Speaker 1: And so I think that's kind of the thing, is
Speaker 1: like what fate that brought you all together? Your dad, Tori,
Speaker 1: who you know? What a lucky thing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, lucky's right, that's true. I can't imagine this lifetime
Speaker 3: not getting to know all of you and not going
Speaker 3: through that experience that, as we say, Jen, no one
Speaker 3: can understand. And I'm okay with that because I wouldn't
Speaker 3: have wanted to share it with anyone else besides all
Speaker 3: of you.
Speaker 2: So much love there the end of the day, whatever,
Speaker 2: anybody was dealing with. There was a just a thread
Speaker 2: of love and appreciation for one another and support that
Speaker 2: we felt because we had each other. And I don't
Speaker 2: think that that will ever go away. I still feel
Speaker 2: it with Luke. I know that as time passes, it'll
Speaker 2: feel different. With Shannon.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't want to like I don't mean
Speaker 1: to be like easy or like, you know, let me
Speaker 1: cut a button on it, you know, like I don't
Speaker 1: mean to do that right now. But it's like I
Speaker 1: do feel whatever the word is, pressure, I feel a
Speaker 1: desire something to like I said, continue her message, continue
Speaker 1: her fight, like you know, ah, give my money, you know,
Speaker 1: all those things that maybe it's just little tiny things,
Speaker 1: but that maybe they do something. I said, do do
Speaker 1: you know we got to have a little laugh here,
Speaker 1: I said, do you said it? You know? So maybe
Speaker 1: and again like I don't pretend that we're going to
Speaker 1: finish this podcast and then next week it's just like, hey, guys,
Speaker 1: we're back.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: It's like it's but I do feel inspired. Maybe that's
Speaker 1: the right word to do what I can. Maybe it's
Speaker 1: a little, maybe it's a lot, maybe it's some days
Speaker 1: it's more, but just and also like I don't want
Speaker 1: to be a dick, do you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: It's like I need to be loving to people. It's
Speaker 1: like there's so many lessons, like I need to tell
Speaker 1: you guys. It doesn't have to be unicorns and rainbows
Speaker 1: all the time. But like, I'm so lucky to get
Speaker 1: to work with you guys. And I don't mean to
Speaker 1: be cheesy or trying to like lessen the importance of
Speaker 1: this conversation.
Speaker 3: You're not minimizing anything.
Speaker 2: No, No, it's so cool, Amy that we've all found
Speaker 2: our way to you back to you.
Speaker 1: So I'm so lucky. I'm so lucky, Like what a
Speaker 1: life to get to be a you know, work with
Speaker 1: you all people that I just loved so much. And
Speaker 1: what I'll say is like, y'all, do not disappoint none
Speaker 1: of you. You know how they say like, oh, don't
Speaker 1: meet the people that you're fans of. It's like that
Speaker 1: is not the case with any of you. That whole
Speaker 1: core group, every single one of you is so impressive.
Speaker 3: That's so true. They always say, never meet your heroes,
Speaker 3: they'll just disappoint.
Speaker 1: You, and they that was so true.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was a good family.
Speaker 2: It was just something that was ingrained in us by
Speaker 2: whatever the experience, the fans, the moment in time of
Speaker 2: the nineties, there's just something that we all learn to
Speaker 2: really appreciate what we had and appreciate the opportunities and
Speaker 2: the gifts of people adoring the sh show and our characters.
Speaker 2: Like I feel like all of us genuinely felt so
Speaker 2: grateful for the opportunity.
Speaker 3: There's no coincidences, right, So it was about the experience
Speaker 3: and the time, but it was also about us as well.
Speaker 1: I think the thing it really has resonated to me
Speaker 1: and maybe maybe I think almost all of you feel
Speaker 1: this way. You never don't want to talk about nine
Speaker 1: o two one zero. You know, there's some celebrities that
Speaker 1: you're like doing an interview with them, like, oh, don't
Speaker 1: ask me about that show. And you all.
Speaker 3: Love it because we're grateful, Like Jen said, we're grateful. Yeah,
Speaker 3: we all know that we would be nowhere without that
Speaker 3: show and those fans for each.
Speaker 2: Other, it would be somewhere else.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what I mean here, Yeah, I'm not
Speaker 3: on this path that we've all been so lucky to
Speaker 3: have this.
Speaker 1: Lifetime contagious to the fans. I think that's what we
Speaker 1: feel so much with all of you is like the
Speaker 1: thing that we love, you love.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true. That's true. So I know, for one,
Speaker 2: I love my time with Shannon. I feel so grateful
Speaker 2: to have known her and learned things from her and
Speaker 2: watched her in her glory. You know, I just feel
Speaker 2: very fortunate to have been given the gift of of her.
Speaker 3: She is a real trail blazer. Do people still use
Speaker 3: that word? Okay?
Speaker 1: Yeah, and she was blazing trails? Yes they do, Tori,
Speaker 1: and she was blazing trails.
Speaker 2: Okay, you can use him.
Speaker 1: Now because she was still doing that. I like it
Speaker 1: she was doing that.
Speaker 3: You know. Look, I've ever used that word my entire
Speaker 3: life and popped into my head.
Speaker 2: You're a trailblazer, you two kid.
Speaker 1: You know what I'll say is, look, we will continue
Speaker 1: to watch recap the show, but it will be a
Speaker 1: little different, and I want you guys to feel like,
Speaker 1: you know, you say what you want to say, and
Speaker 1: you will do it when you're ready.
Speaker 2: Yeah, do it when you're ready. Well, thank you Amy
Speaker 2: for giving us the chance to sort of talk about
Speaker 2: it publicly.
Speaker 1: I you know, look, yes, I made them get on.
Speaker 1: I wanted to, like, you know, start the conversation, and
Speaker 1: I wanted everyone to get to hear it, you know,
Speaker 1: so hopefully we made the right decision.
Speaker 2: And I think so. I think important. It's important when
Speaker 2: you're grieving and other people are grieving the same one
Speaker 2: us in a different way. It's so important to connect
Speaker 2: with one another and feel that human like connective tissue.
Speaker 2: We're all hurting, we're all trying to heal. We all
Speaker 2: want to do it right, we want to grieve right, however,
Speaker 2: whatever that looks like. But I think the most important
Speaker 2: thing is that we are all in this together, Like
Speaker 2: in this moment, we are all together you, Amy, Tory,
Speaker 2: and everybody listening, everybody who ever loved the show, whoever
Speaker 2: loves Shannon, and any of our other projects. There are
Speaker 2: so many. We're all together, and that should offer us
Speaker 2: some feelings of support, you know. And it's better to
Speaker 2: not feel so alone.
Speaker 3: It's true. It's better to feel then try not to feel.
Speaker 3: Mm hmmm, well, so thank you.
Speaker 1: We'll keep talking and yeah, we're going to text you
Speaker 1: guys in five minutes like I've been.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Amy.
Speaker 1: I love you guys so much, like I really, really
Speaker 1: really love you both so much.
Speaker 2: I love you too, Love you guys who we love,
Speaker 2: our OMG family.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, people are They're such kind of people.
Speaker 2: Mm hm oh.
Speaker 1: Talk to you guys in two minutes.
Speaker 2: Bye,