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Speaker 2: Hi? Who is this? Who? Oh?

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Speaker 1: Kick? Hey is John? How are you doing?

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Speaker 2: John? What's up? John? How's how's life? Brother? Have we

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Speaker 1: No, man, I tripped over your thing. I was like

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Speaker 1: doom scrolling on some terrible political crap and there is

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Speaker 1: I could not get enough.

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Speaker 2: Rock and roll, Man, rock and roll.

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Speaker 3: I'll tell you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, go ahead.

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Speaker 1: I'm just gonna say I have been spiraling on like

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Speaker 1: trying to like help people and give them advice. And

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Speaker 1: one of the big things have been telling everybody's dude,

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Speaker 1: you got this problem, you should go to therapy. I've

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Speaker 1: never gone to therapy, and I'm listening to you constantly say,

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Speaker 1: you know, I'm a good dude in a green whatever.

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Speaker 1: Maybe you could talk to someone who actually gets into

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Speaker 1: this more. And I was like, that's a great point.

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Speaker 1: I've been doing therapy for the past like three months

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Speaker 1: and it has been bomb ass great, really so happy dude.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, oh that's awesome. What how has it been helpful

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Speaker 2: for you? Well?

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Speaker 1: I think first off, when someone gives you an opportunity

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Speaker 1: start kind of hanging yourself. Yeah, so when I say

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Speaker 1: just like letting me do that. And I'm pretty just

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Speaker 1: talk a million miles an hour anyway, So dude, the

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Speaker 1: number of times she just kind of says, well, you

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Speaker 1: it's like, well, and not that I have to choose

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Speaker 2: And it says, here, you're you're forty one years old.

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Speaker 2: This is your first time doing therapy in all forty

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I had I had a stint where growing up,

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Speaker 1: or blah blah blah and be a waste of time.

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Speaker 1: They're gonna make it worse. So I've just kind of

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Speaker 2: So man, I mean, well, I'm curious. I guess what

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Speaker 1: Most of it's trying to stop and recognize where I'm

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Speaker 1: It's been a journey. Like my first marriage was ten years,

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Speaker 1: It was normal to get married at twenty for that group,

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Speaker 1: Oh so my parents were kind of interestingly enough, not

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Speaker 1: To catch up on that. So my family men and

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Speaker 2: And what was the deal with your wife? Was she

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Speaker 1: This, So she was she was a nurse, so she

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Speaker 2: And so did she come with you when you left Nebraska?

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Speaker 1: So yeah, we actually, uh there was a small junior

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Speaker 2: I mean So look, I'm sure you talked about this

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Speaker 2: But you know what, how how do you think things deteriorated?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I appreciate the flexibility or the choice, but I'm

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Speaker 1: I actually just talked to someone about this because they

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Speaker 1: they were no longer contributing member of society because they

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Speaker 1: of it and say, like, we do things that hurt people,

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Speaker 1: wouldn't say she was asexual, but we did not have

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Speaker 1: all three of us, Like it was what do you.

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Speaker 2: What do you? What do you? What do you mean?

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Speaker 1: Well, so we we were having really terrible sex and

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not gonna lie. I have always kind of

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Speaker 2: So now when when you say when you say emotional affair,

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Speaker 3: Like to do that.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so you did. You did not cheat on your wife.

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Speaker 2: So it was just so it was just you were

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Speaker 3: Like that?

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Speaker 1: That seems like a bit much like again the Family

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Speaker 2: Your was your wife? Was your wife also into this woman?

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Speaker 1: I don't know a lot about my ex's sexual interests,

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Speaker 1: I mean I kind of wondered, like because she didn't

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Speaker 1: We were really good friends.

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Speaker 2: So this led to the end of that marriage.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it did not work out after that, the part

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Speaker 2: How old are you, guys.

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Speaker 1: Boy, boy, that must have all fallen apart together for

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Speaker 1: nine years. I was probably like twenty nine to thirty

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Speaker 1: You know, it was kind of more my second. But

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Speaker 1: I was like thirty five. I'd say that it's crazy

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Speaker 1: how many books are out there that have like really

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Speaker 2: You didn't feel like you knew how to emotionally regulate

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Speaker 2: what do you well, Well, I guess, well, what how

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Speaker 1: Well, A lot of it for me is being able

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Speaker 1: to understand when I'm not happy, if something displeases me.

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Speaker 3: I mean, at first, it's just.

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Speaker 1: Going to annoy me. Eventually, if I leave it there,

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Speaker 3: Drive you crazy.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I have a daughter and as an example,

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Speaker 1: By the time she's walking up to you, she's blown

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Speaker 1: this is not okay. This you know, compromises my values

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Speaker 1: or you know, I feel disrespected. You can say that

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Speaker 1: And I had to find the medium ground to say

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Speaker 1: fuck out right now that that's kind of like the crisis.

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Speaker 2: The ability to identify and communicate your feelings.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And so him her judgment, when did you have

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Speaker 1: I had my kid and that was the second marriage actually,

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Speaker 2: Okay, is it just the wandi of it? Does she

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Speaker 1: Her mom has a son and daughter, so she has

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Speaker 2: Okay, how is being a father?

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Speaker 1: Oh dude? You know, I never wanted to pro create,

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Speaker 1: really like, it never occurred to me that I should

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Speaker 1: why not? And meanwhile, I wouldn't say it changes you

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Speaker 1: you don't know, tell your parents, Like, actually most of

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Speaker 1: civilians don't know. But it is the coolest shit ever.

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Speaker 1: And I'm super proud that my daughter is basically me,

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Speaker 2: So when you got all right, see you break up

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Speaker 2: with your first wife because of this hot old lady, yeah,

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Speaker 2: and then how and then when you when you meet

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Speaker 1: So in announcing that I wanted to get divorced from

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Speaker 1: just be like, hey, don't do anything stupid. You know,

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Speaker 1: it was a pretty heavy rebound. Like I said, I

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Speaker 1: first sight. It's been fantastic but if you get divorced

441
00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:14,960
Speaker 1: and then see love at first sight, it might be

442
00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:17,920
Speaker 1: you might want to give it like five Mississippi or something.

443
00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:21,520
Speaker 2: Yeah. Sure, you're a little bit like, uh, you don't

444
00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:25,119
Speaker 2: You never want to go into something with the idea

445
00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:26,399
Speaker 2: that somebody will save you.

446
00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:31,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's for sure. I would say that

447
00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:34,600
Speaker 1: was something I always put in my datating profiles, like

448
00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:37,960
Speaker 1: I'm not looking to be saved or save, Like, I

449
00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:41,080
Speaker 1: just want to experience people and I want to appreciate people.

450
00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:42,760
Speaker 2: Well, and do you meet this?

451
00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:43,239
Speaker 4: Uh?

452
00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:46,359
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, so, so what were you guys

453
00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:48,280
Speaker 2: fighting about?

454
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Speaker 1: Well, I believe that. Well, she did eventually get diagnosed

455
00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:57,080
Speaker 1: with this, but when she got pregnant, she became a

456
00:24:57,280 --> 00:25:01,760
Speaker 1: very unhappy, angry person, to the point of yelling and

457
00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:06,840
Speaker 1: throwing things, and she was convinced. I was sleeping with

458
00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:11,120
Speaker 1: the secretary at work. I mean, quite literally, the most

459
00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:14,199
Speaker 1: cliche of things. And I was like, man, I mean, like,

460
00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:16,480
Speaker 1: I moved all the way across the country with you

461
00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:19,280
Speaker 1: to Oregon. You know, I have a baby on the

462
00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:21,320
Speaker 1: way that I couldn't be more excited about, and you're

463
00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:22,919
Speaker 1: worried that I'm going to mess it all up. With

464
00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:27,439
Speaker 1: some of at the front desk, and she would not

465
00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:30,760
Speaker 1: be dissuaded. My best friend actually ended up calling me

466
00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:33,159
Speaker 1: because she used to call him to see if I

467
00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:36,119
Speaker 1: was doing any of the stuff, and he was like,

468
00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:38,679
Speaker 1: maybe you should just sleep with the secretary because she

469
00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:41,200
Speaker 1: seems to think that you have and you might as well,

470
00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:44,960
Speaker 1: which at the time was hilarious and I appreciated the

471
00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:48,040
Speaker 1: not taking the whole thing too seriously because I wasn't.

472
00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:51,640
Speaker 1: I mean, I was too tired to try to move

473
00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:55,040
Speaker 1: my family across country and like not get fired. Like

474
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Speaker 1: I was kind of risking a lot. And ultimately I

475
00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:03,640
Speaker 1: we were yelling in front of my daughter, and I

476
00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:06,359
Speaker 1: was like, I will never do that again. You know,

477
00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:09,040
Speaker 1: my parents did that to me, And I was like,

478
00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:12,760
Speaker 1: my kids should think that being around me it is

479
00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:16,760
Speaker 1: the safest thing in their life. And if I'm compromising that,

480
00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:19,560
Speaker 1: I will stop. I will do anything to stop that

481
00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:23,440
Speaker 1: from happening. So I separated. I moved into a garage

482
00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:28,080
Speaker 1: and refused to talk to her unless we had counseling,

483
00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:32,560
Speaker 1: and we talked about it. We worked through some things,

484
00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:36,720
Speaker 1: but ultimately she was not going to let that go,

485
00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:39,960
Speaker 1: and she was very angry and that it was a

486
00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:41,960
Speaker 1: long time later that she went to a doctor and

487
00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:44,920
Speaker 1: they're like, oh, yeah, you have postpartum depression, like really bad.

488
00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:48,840
Speaker 1: And even that news to her was terrible because it

489
00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:52,520
Speaker 1: meant she was quote unquote crazy. But it actually helped

490
00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:54,920
Speaker 1: a lot because then she realized I can get help

491
00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:58,280
Speaker 1: for this. This feeling of anger isn't because someone did

492
00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:01,560
Speaker 1: me wrong. It's because I'm sick and there's something I

493
00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:05,159
Speaker 1: can do to manage that. So, I mean, fortunately we're amicable,

494
00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:07,919
Speaker 1: you know, because we share child. It's important that you

495
00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:11,199
Speaker 1: work together and take care of the human life. So

496
00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:16,159
Speaker 1: sometimes we're a little we're a lot better at making

497
00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:20,080
Speaker 1: that the priority than trying to slight each other today

498
00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:20,879
Speaker 1: than we were before.

499
00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:25,240
Speaker 2: So whose garage were you living then?

500
00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:29,119
Speaker 1: Well, so it was the house we were in. She

501
00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:31,159
Speaker 1: got the house, the kids got their bedrooms, and I

502
00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:37,920
Speaker 1: just lived in the garage on the floor, which I

503
00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:40,239
Speaker 1: don't know. I hate beds for some reason. I like

504
00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:42,640
Speaker 1: when I'm not When I was single, like in high

505
00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:46,200
Speaker 1: school and stuff, I preferred sleeping on the floor. In fact,

506
00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:49,120
Speaker 1: being single right now, I'm I am, yet again living

507
00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:52,680
Speaker 1: in my garage on a mat on the floor because

508
00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:54,159
Speaker 1: it's simpler for me.

509
00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:54,560
Speaker 3: I don't know.

510
00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:58,080
Speaker 2: So what's next for you? Man? What are you? Well,

511
00:27:58,200 --> 00:27:59,919
Speaker 2: let me ask, are you enjoying life?

512
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:00,200
Speaker 3: Yeah?

513
00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:05,160
Speaker 1: I am. There's that saying that they say, like when

514
00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:08,000
Speaker 1: you're young, you're broke, but you have all the time

515
00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:10,480
Speaker 1: and energy in the world. And then when you're middle aged,

516
00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:17,560
Speaker 1: you're not broke, but oh boy, lost track thoughts. You

517
00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:20,400
Speaker 1: have money but you don't have Yeah, you definitely don't

518
00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:23,000
Speaker 1: have time because you have some energy. And then when

519
00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:26,160
Speaker 1: you're old, you definitely have money, but you don't have

520
00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:28,040
Speaker 1: the energy at all.

521
00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:29,360
Speaker 2: Yeah.

522
00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:32,360
Speaker 1: So I'm definitely in that such situation where I can

523
00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:37,320
Speaker 1: over commit myself really easily. But meanwhile I'm working to

524
00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:40,280
Speaker 1: be to make myself a less of a footprint, Like

525
00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:42,960
Speaker 1: I'm using the garage to literally shink shrink my living

526
00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:46,080
Speaker 1: space to see like how many cubic feet I actually

527
00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:48,440
Speaker 1: need in order to do my day to day life

528
00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:52,560
Speaker 1: and then try to find a place that fits back effectively,

529
00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:56,040
Speaker 1: because I if I have less to take care of

530
00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:58,440
Speaker 1: my own, then I can kind of go out and

531
00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:02,320
Speaker 1: do things. And I would really like to be a photojournalist.

532
00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:08,520
Speaker 1: You have ever heard of like humans of New York A? Yeah, sure, yeah,

533
00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:11,160
Speaker 1: I'm a big fan of his. I think I've seen

534
00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:13,480
Speaker 1: some videos of like how he does that. And I

535
00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:16,360
Speaker 1: take a lot of public transportation here in Portland, and

536
00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:18,440
Speaker 1: I have some kind of sticker on my face that

537
00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:22,640
Speaker 1: says like, come talk to me, because every person that

538
00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:25,560
Speaker 1: just all these people are like I hope they don't

539
00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:28,440
Speaker 1: talk to me. They definitely talk to me, and I

540
00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:31,400
Speaker 1: don't know, there's a human inside, and you hear all

541
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:35,240
Speaker 1: these different experiences, and you know, from twenty feet away,

542
00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:37,520
Speaker 1: you're like, the guy just smoke crack and he's gonna

543
00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:39,560
Speaker 1: punch me if I get anywhere close. And then when

544
00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:42,360
Speaker 1: he does, he's like, hey, did you know about my daughter?

545
00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:46,080
Speaker 1: Jesus Christ, No, tell me more. And then all of

546
00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:47,560
Speaker 1: a sudden I hear about how this guy is a

547
00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:50,520
Speaker 1: proud father and his daughter is actually like a really

548
00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:53,960
Speaker 1: cool CEO something or other, and he, you know, taught

549
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:56,560
Speaker 1: her how to work hard, but now he just can't

550
00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:59,360
Speaker 1: handle it and he prefers just being crabby on the

551
00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:00,680
Speaker 1: screet yelling at people.

552
00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:02,880
Speaker 2: What do you What do you do for work? In Portland?

553
00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:08,840
Speaker 1: So I do it computer work and I'm actually a manager,

554
00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:11,720
Speaker 1: so I work with kind of like data nerds and

555
00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:15,480
Speaker 1: you know, techy people and programmers, and I'm kind of

556
00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:19,320
Speaker 1: the guy that tries to connect the dots or enable

557
00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:20,920
Speaker 1: people to get the most out of their day.

558
00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:28,120
Speaker 2: Well, John, you've you've You've become a very fun journey

559
00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:35,680
Speaker 2: from Mennonite who does not use any technology to uh

560
00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:38,920
Speaker 2: being an it guy. That's a fun journey.

561
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:42,960
Speaker 1: Yeah. I'm pretty pretty proud of it. I'm living my

562
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:46,960
Speaker 1: best dad life. The other positive thing I'd say about

563
00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:48,800
Speaker 1: having a kid is you can tell dad bad dad

564
00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:49,760
Speaker 1: jokes because your dad.

565
00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:50,280
Speaker 3: It's your job.

566
00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:56,040
Speaker 2: Everyone should try it. Don't so you have kids, John,

567
00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:57,320
Speaker 2: thanks for sharing this story.

568
00:30:57,360 --> 00:30:57,520
Speaker 6: Man.

569
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Speaker 2: I hope, I hope you're doing well. I'm glad you're

570
00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:02,479
Speaker 2: going to real therapy. I'm glad that you're, you know,

571
00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:06,480
Speaker 2: living a life where you're really prioritizing your kid. I mean,

572
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:10,720
Speaker 2: that's such a that's that's that's such a fucking important thing.

573
00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:12,760
Speaker 2: A lot of people like I feel like they'll have

574
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:16,080
Speaker 2: kids and they don't realize that it's you know, when

575
00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:17,800
Speaker 2: you have kids, it's like it just has to be

576
00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:21,160
Speaker 2: the most important thing, you know, like it's just not

577
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:23,040
Speaker 2: something to fuck around with. And it doesn't sound like

578
00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:25,640
Speaker 2: you're fucking around with it. So I'm very very proud

579
00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:26,080
Speaker 2: of you for that.

580
00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:29,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, thanks, man. I mean I'm sucking up a lot,

581
00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:31,440
Speaker 1: but I think the biggest thing a parent can do

582
00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:33,560
Speaker 1: is acknowledge that and just try to do better later.

583
00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:34,920
Speaker 1: It's totally okay.

584
00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:39,760
Speaker 2: Is there anything else from your story or just in

585
00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:43,520
Speaker 2: any whatever, any any any stuff for things that you

586
00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:45,320
Speaker 2: want to say to the people before we go?

587
00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:50,800
Speaker 1: Man, I love that I got to talk to a

588
00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:54,560
Speaker 1: green get Go therapist. My life is complete.

589
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:57,440
Speaker 2: I love that I got to talk to talk to

590
00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:02,400
Speaker 2: a man living in his girl in Portland named John.

591
00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:07,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, dude, it's been a pleasure. Thank you so much.

592
00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:08,960
Speaker 2: It's been a pleasure talking to you too. John. Good

593
00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:11,880
Speaker 2: luck and uh I have I have I have faith

594
00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:16,120
Speaker 2: in your further prosperity. I truly do you two get

595
00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:17,880
Speaker 2: doing God's work later on?

596
00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:20,120
Speaker 3: Man kisses back.

597
00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:26,240
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, I liked that sometimes if I

598
00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:29,520
Speaker 2: if someone's talking to me and I find their life interesting,

599
00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:31,400
Speaker 2: especially if they're a little bit older. I know our

600
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:37,960
Speaker 2: podcast skews, you know, kind of towards people in their twenties.

601
00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:41,560
Speaker 2: So I'm really happy to hear from a caller who's

602
00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:43,960
Speaker 2: a little bit older and has a life to share,

603
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:46,360
Speaker 2: and I like hearing I like these calls. I like

604
00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:53,800
Speaker 2: hearing people's I like hearing people's life stories because life

605
00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:59,120
Speaker 2: is such a crazy, non linear thing and there's no

606
00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:03,120
Speaker 2: book on how to do it definitively. So one of

607
00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:05,160
Speaker 2: the things you can do is listen to other people

608
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:11,920
Speaker 2: tell their life stories and glean whatever useful information of

609
00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:17,040
Speaker 2: what to do or not do based off of what

610
00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:23,280
Speaker 2: you hear other people say about their lives. And that's

611
00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:29,320
Speaker 2: one of the fun things about interviewing people and doing

612
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Speaker 2: this show. Those are my post call thoughts. Attention listeners

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Speaker 2: of the Therapy Gecko podcast. Do you know that I

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Speaker 2: do a live version of this podcast on stage in person,

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Speaker 2: in front of real people, and that I'm doing this

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Speaker 2: live show in several cities across the United States this year,

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Speaker 2: and that tickets are available right now at therapy geckotour

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Speaker 2: It is all true. I'm currently on my third tour

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Speaker 3: Hello, Hello, is this big daddy? Lyle?

636
00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:55,840
Speaker 2: Sure is?

637
00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:00,160
Speaker 3: Now? How's it go? Uh?

638
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:06,160
Speaker 2: It's going okay? Uh, it's all you know. What is

639
00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:11,680
Speaker 2: crazy is at any given time, I can just decide

640
00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:18,000
Speaker 2: that everything is going amazing. I I sort of I

641
00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:21,799
Speaker 2: sort of believe that. I I I think as I

642
00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:26,520
Speaker 2: I my my faith in that idea ebbs and flows.

643
00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:33,040
Speaker 2: But lately it's it's been flowing. What's up with you?

644
00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:34,600
Speaker 2: What's up with you? What are you doing?

645
00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:40,680
Speaker 3: I'm good, I'm good. Uh. I just say you were

646
00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:45,000
Speaker 3: screaming and I was like, I gottitude into my favorite

647
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:46,680
Speaker 3: my favorite gek.

648
00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:50,640
Speaker 2: So I'm so honored to be to be your to

649
00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:54,120
Speaker 2: be your favorite lizard. Thank you, thank you very much.

650
00:35:56,160 --> 00:36:01,240
Speaker 2: Who's who's with you in the back? Someone's yelling, Yeah,

651
00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:02,520
Speaker 2: it's my girlfriend.

652
00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:07,759
Speaker 3: She's like, she's very very excited that we got up.

653
00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:13,000
Speaker 2: All right, Well, I'm glad she's in the room because

654
00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:15,239
Speaker 2: she deserves to know about this. I mean not really,

655
00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:19,000
Speaker 2: who gives a ship? All right? You texted me and

656
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:24,600
Speaker 2: you said I have spent five thousand dollars on in

657
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:30,560
Speaker 2: game skins. Let's let's start with this. What game is this?

658
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Speaker 1: Oh?

659
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Speaker 3: The thing is I'm even do uh? League of Legends?

660
00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:46,880
Speaker 2: League of Legends? Well, yeah, okay, here's I This is

661
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:49,759
Speaker 2: my opinion as somebody who has never played League of

662
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:52,800
Speaker 2: Legends in his entire life, has no idea how it's played,

663
00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:56,440
Speaker 2: just by looking at the screen. All the little guys

664
00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:59,440
Speaker 2: that like it's an RTS, right, it's like about what

665
00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:02,880
Speaker 2: it's like a RTS sort of fucking thing. The little

666
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:06,920
Speaker 2: guys are so tiny, The little guys that you command

667
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:10,040
Speaker 2: around are so tiny that you you don't even get

668
00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:11,879
Speaker 2: to look at the cool skin that you bought there's

669
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:13,799
Speaker 2: such a tiny little guys that you that you put

670
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:14,040
Speaker 2: in the.

671
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:18,440
Speaker 3: Clothes you mean, yeah, I mean that's the whole point.

672
00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:20,560
Speaker 2: I mean, like when I play, like when you play,

673
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:26,239
Speaker 2: when you play street Fighter or like h Fortnite, you're

674
00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:29,479
Speaker 2: buying like a cool al when you and when you're buying,

675
00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:31,560
Speaker 2: and when you buy like a cool old costume, like

676
00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:35,160
Speaker 2: your character takes up a lot of screen real estate,

677
00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:37,719
Speaker 2: but in a mobile, it's just like putting. It's like

678
00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:41,000
Speaker 2: buying clothes for your pet ants.

679
00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:45,200
Speaker 3: Sure, no, I mean that makes sense. I see what

680
00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:48,799
Speaker 3: you say. But it makes me happy when they're in

681
00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:51,280
Speaker 3: a pretty cute outfit. You know what I'm saying?

682
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:53,480
Speaker 2: Like do you do you do? You have a lot

683
00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:55,560
Speaker 2: of money?

684
00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:58,640
Speaker 3: Uh?

685
00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:02,680
Speaker 7: I have a lot of money to spend when I'm

686
00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:03,640
Speaker 7: feeling cute?

687
00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:05,440
Speaker 3: Is what it is?

688
00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:08,480
Speaker 2: Are you in tell me this? Are you? Are you?

689
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:12,239
Speaker 2: Are you in financial turmoil?

690
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:14,880
Speaker 4: No?

691
00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:18,239
Speaker 3: I mean, like the thing is like I've done well

692
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:23,680
Speaker 3: for myself. I'm not. I don't I come from money,

693
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:27,319
Speaker 3: but I've never had it given to me.

694
00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:30,920
Speaker 5: I guess like so once I hit like the the

695
00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:35,200
Speaker 5: college phase of my life, I was like cut off.

696
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:40,399
Speaker 5: So all the money that I've you know made on

697
00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:45,360
Speaker 5: my own. I've spent it on things that I enjoy, which.

698
00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:50,480
Speaker 3: Are pretty little skins for my little my little pals.

699
00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:52,680
Speaker 2: What do you do for a living?

700
00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:55,480
Speaker 3: I work in finance.

701
00:38:56,120 --> 00:39:00,880
Speaker 2: You work in finance, Yes, sir, okay, you're not like

702
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:05,719
Speaker 2: in you in any gambling debt or anything like that.

703
00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:13,640
Speaker 3: It's so funny, it's so funny. Uh no, no, but I.

704
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:15,440
Speaker 2: Have like that would have been really funny if you

705
00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:17,040
Speaker 2: got that would have really funny if just now you

706
00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:18,879
Speaker 2: were like, oh my god, the way he asked that,

707
00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:21,560
Speaker 2: that's so funny. Uh no, No, but seriously, i am

708
00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:25,439
Speaker 2: in several thousand dollars. I'm glad the answer was no.

709
00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:32,520
Speaker 2: I'm glad the answer was no to that question. Yes me.

710
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:36,080
Speaker 3: But that's why that's why I'm calling in. I just

711
00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:42,200
Speaker 3: wanted to take out a loan uh in the lyle business. No.

712
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:48,920
Speaker 3: But so to give you some background, I recently moved

713
00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:52,479
Speaker 3: to New York, which gambling is.

714
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:53,200
Speaker 2: Now uh.

715
00:39:54,880 --> 00:40:00,920
Speaker 3: Legal. So like I've been dipping my toes inn. I'm terrible,

716
00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:02,400
Speaker 3: Like it's just awful.

717
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:09,680
Speaker 2: So I've there's no really, there's no way to be

718
00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:14,920
Speaker 2: good at it. Really, I mean it's there are games

719
00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:18,040
Speaker 2: of chance. You literally can't be good at it.

720
00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:23,840
Speaker 3: That's true. That's true. Have you well, I know you. Actually,

721
00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:28,520
Speaker 3: I'll just say yes because you uh, because I listened

722
00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:31,839
Speaker 3: to you every day and I heard some mads for.

723
00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:33,040
Speaker 2: What's the question is?

724
00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:34,560
Speaker 7: No?

725
00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:38,719
Speaker 3: Sorry, it was it was just saying that you like,

726
00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:40,400
Speaker 3: do you gamble it.

727
00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:47,680
Speaker 2: All I have? Maybe I've gambled, like when I go

728
00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:50,680
Speaker 2: to Vegas, I'll play one not even any No. I

729
00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:52,239
Speaker 2: was about to say when I go to Vegas, I'll

730
00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:55,720
Speaker 2: play one slot machine, but that's not true. I actually

731
00:40:55,840 --> 00:40:59,360
Speaker 2: went to Vegas a few one time. When I was

732
00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:02,000
Speaker 2: in Vegas, I played the slot machines. But I'm not

733
00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:05,920
Speaker 2: a gambling person at all. I'm not. I don't.

734
00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:12,280
Speaker 3: Say what I say again, have you done any shows

735
00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:13,400
Speaker 3: in Vegas?

736
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:15,680
Speaker 2: Yeah? I've done two shows. Two shows in Vegas. They're

737
00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:18,240
Speaker 2: both really really fun. Shout out, shout out Wise Guys

738
00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:18,960
Speaker 2: Comedy Club.

739
00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:24,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, but do so, guys, when you're coming to New York.

740
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:28,120
Speaker 2: When am I coming to September sixth, get tickets therapy

741
00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:29,120
Speaker 2: Gecko tour dot com.

742
00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:30,879
Speaker 3: That's my birthday month.

743
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:33,400
Speaker 2: We gotta go, We gotta gotta go. Yeah, you gotta go.

744
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:35,040
Speaker 2: Do No, it's gonna be sick. So I'm I mean,

745
00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:37,879
Speaker 2: I'm here now, so I'm just gonna walk over there.

746
00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:43,040
Speaker 2: It's gonna be awesome. No, that one's gonna be fun. Okay, gambling,

747
00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:46,360
Speaker 2: you gamble. I live in New York. Come to the

748
00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:52,319
Speaker 2: Bell House, September sixth, therapy, gacko tour dot com. What

749
00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:55,759
Speaker 2: part of that? Where are you? Where are you? I

750
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:59,640
Speaker 2: don't want to what's your give me your home address

751
00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:01,760
Speaker 2: or I'm the call right now.

752
00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:05,319
Speaker 3: I'm in I'm in Manhattan.

753
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:09,800
Speaker 2: Oh fuck? Do you live in Manhattan and you're spending

754
00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:14,600
Speaker 2: five thousand dollars on League of Legend skins? How you

755
00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:17,000
Speaker 2: you're how rich? How rich are you? How rich are you?

756
00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:19,600
Speaker 2: How rich are you? That's the most rich. That's the

757
00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:21,240
Speaker 2: richest thing I've ever heard.

758
00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:27,160
Speaker 3: First of all, I've been playing League for like ten years,

759
00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:29,800
Speaker 3: so like this is a key list over time.

760
00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:30,759
Speaker 6: You know what?

761
00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:33,279
Speaker 2: You know what? You know what? You know what? Five

762
00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:36,680
Speaker 2: thousand dollars on League of Legend skins over the course

763
00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:40,520
Speaker 2: of a decade is not crazy, That's what I'm saying.

764
00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:42,920
Speaker 2: That's not crazy at all. I thought you like dropped

765
00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:43,520
Speaker 2: it all at once.

766
00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:49,440
Speaker 6: I guess, I mean that would be that would be insane,

767
00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:54,560
Speaker 6: But as a fellow gamer, I feel like you would understand.

768
00:42:55,640 --> 00:43:02,080
Speaker 3: But because I know you're into Smash, which is yeah.

769
00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:05,279
Speaker 2: But here's here's the thing. Though I spend money on

770
00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:12,160
Speaker 2: I spend money on on games. Yeah, like the game,

771
00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:13,920
Speaker 2: like the games themselves.

772
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:16,720
Speaker 3: What's the best game that you played recently?

773
00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:19,359
Speaker 2: The best game I played recently is the as the

774
00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:21,759
Speaker 2: remake of Paper Mario and the Thousand Year Door on

775
00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:22,800
Speaker 2: the Nintendo Switch.

776
00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:27,360
Speaker 3: Yes, I heard you talking about it. Oh yeah, you

777
00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:27,879
Speaker 3: like it.

778
00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:30,400
Speaker 2: Every time I I'm in the middle of playing a

779
00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:32,880
Speaker 2: video game, I'll talk about it a lot on the

780
00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:37,960
Speaker 2: podcast because because I can do whatever I want on

781
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:41,839
Speaker 2: on here, it's fun. There's a whole lot you keep

782
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:45,040
Speaker 2: deflecting to me while you have we haven't quite gotten

783
00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:45,960
Speaker 2: into what's wrong with you?

784
00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:50,319
Speaker 3: All right, fair enough?

785
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:53,520
Speaker 2: Do you do you want to share anything more about that?

786
00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:55,560
Speaker 2: Or would you or we don't have to talk about

787
00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:57,000
Speaker 2: it if you don't want to. But do you have

788
00:43:57,040 --> 00:43:59,200
Speaker 2: anything more about about that?

789
00:43:59,280 --> 00:43:59,520
Speaker 7: Really?

790
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:03,960
Speaker 3: Just like if I know it's fine if I'm like

791
00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:08,120
Speaker 3: playing a character that like I really enjoy enjoy at

792
00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:13,440
Speaker 3: the time, like I'll just buy a skin and like

793
00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:14,080
Speaker 3: I like.

794
00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:22,440
Speaker 5: I like making my character look great, Like the idea

795
00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:25,440
Speaker 5: of like in game skins like really enjoys.

796
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:27,719
Speaker 3: Me because it's just like it's nice, you know, like

797
00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:29,160
Speaker 3: especially if you're playing something.

798
00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:34,520
Speaker 2: Ask you a question, of course, do you buy clothes?

799
00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:39,840
Speaker 3: Yeah?

800
00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:42,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, in real life? Do you buy clothes in real life?

801
00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:46,080
Speaker 2: I appreciate you guys are laughing at everything I say.

802
00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:47,480
Speaker 2: But I think I don't I get I don't know

803
00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:48,439
Speaker 2: if that's a funny question.

804
00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:51,719
Speaker 3: No, it's a great question. It's a great question. I

805
00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:54,040
Speaker 3: I don't.

806
00:44:55,840 --> 00:45:00,200
Speaker 2: You don't so you you buy more clothes for the

807
00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:02,400
Speaker 2: little legal legends guys than you do for yourself.

808
00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:08,480
Speaker 3: That's a bit because I spend more time playing. But

809
00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:10,800
Speaker 3: it's true.

810
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:18,840
Speaker 2: Goddamn you know that's uh live your life. I really have.

811
00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:22,840
Speaker 2: I've been. I was last night. I was playing Paper Mario,

812
00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:29,879
Speaker 2: and I had this genuine thought that I every time

813
00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:32,160
Speaker 2: I'm sing this will happen when I'm playing video games,

814
00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:37,000
Speaker 2: I'll think like I'm slowly dying. I try to, I

815
00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:38,759
Speaker 2: try to think about the fact that it's not even

816
00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:42,240
Speaker 2: I try to think about the fact that I'm slowly dying.

817
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:45,560
Speaker 2: And this is how this is like my life, This

818
00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:47,920
Speaker 2: is the little bit of time. This is a little

819
00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:54,360
Speaker 2: flash of time that I get to experience, you know, however,

820
00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:56,600
Speaker 2: and it's not guaranteed even, but like, this is my

821
00:45:56,760 --> 00:46:03,360
Speaker 2: little flash of time in the infinite, infinite timeline of

822
00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:06,120
Speaker 2: everything that ever was and everything that will ever be.

823
00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:09,000
Speaker 2: You know, I'm right here. It's a very special time.

824
00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:11,680
Speaker 2: What am I doing with that time? Is it fucked

825
00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:14,719
Speaker 2: up that I'm playing video games right now? I thought

826
00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:17,319
Speaker 2: about that, and I was like, you know what, in

827
00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:21,640
Speaker 2: that little flash of time, I'm fucking honored to be

828
00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:24,879
Speaker 2: sitting here playing Paper Mario in the thousand Year Door.

829
00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:26,640
Speaker 2: I used to like guilt myself a little bit, maybe

830
00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:28,920
Speaker 2: going like I could be doing something else, But like, honestly,

831
00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:32,680
Speaker 2: if this was the last thing, if someone came in

832
00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:35,040
Speaker 2: my house and shot me in the fucking head and

833
00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:37,719
Speaker 2: like like a little a bullet hole went through the

834
00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:44,360
Speaker 2: switch in my head and I died, I could definitely

835
00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:46,040
Speaker 2: be like, you know what, I got to do it.

836
00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:47,799
Speaker 2: I did it. We did it. That was a good

837
00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:50,919
Speaker 2: way to that we I regret nothing is I guess

838
00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:54,120
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. I don't regret the time. I'm honored

839
00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:57,319
Speaker 2: to be playing Paper Mario in the thousand year door

840
00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:02,239
Speaker 2: in this back of my existence.

841
00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:07,680
Speaker 3: And I completely agree. Like I feel like I don't know,

842
00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:12,200
Speaker 3: I've been like introspective about like life lately, and I

843
00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:14,400
Speaker 3: think that like, yeah, you want to spend your time?

844
00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:17,879
Speaker 3: How do you want to spend it? And like if

845
00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:20,560
Speaker 3: that's what brings you to with then why the fuck not?

846
00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:22,600
Speaker 3: Like there are plenty of.

847
00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:27,520
Speaker 6: Other people out there not doing things that they don't enjoy,

848
00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:29,400
Speaker 6: So like, spend your life.

849
00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:34,800
Speaker 3: How you want to. And if paper Mario, which bangor

850
00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:39,120
Speaker 3: gain by the way, Oh yeah, if you're like enjoying

851
00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:42,240
Speaker 3: your time and you're not hurting anyone else, like fucking

852
00:47:43,239 --> 00:47:48,760
Speaker 3: do whatever you want. But anyways, I think that's such

853
00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:54,200
Speaker 3: a great thing doing what you enjoy And like if

854
00:47:54,239 --> 00:47:58,440
Speaker 3: that is playing paper Mario, then hell yeah. If it's

855
00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:04,560
Speaker 3: spending five thousand dollars on skins? Then do you.

856
00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:05,680
Speaker 2: Do you enjoy? Do you enjoy doing finance?

857
00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:11,640
Speaker 3: No?

858
00:48:11,719 --> 00:48:13,120
Speaker 2: Do you do you make do you make a lot

859
00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:16,640
Speaker 2: of money? Do you make a lot of money doing it? Uh?

860
00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:23,960
Speaker 3: To a lot of people? Probably then yes, yes, I

861
00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:28,360
Speaker 3: would I do I make these of money? Like do

862
00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:29,239
Speaker 3: I enjoy it?

863
00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:29,440
Speaker 4: Do?

864
00:48:29,520 --> 00:48:32,719
Speaker 3: I think like you have to get a degree to

865
00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:34,680
Speaker 3: do what I do.

866
00:48:34,719 --> 00:48:37,520
Speaker 2: No, are you You're not? Are you are you an

867
00:48:37,560 --> 00:48:38,800
Speaker 2: Are you an investment banker?

868
00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:41,440
Speaker 3: No? I'm not.

869
00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:48,359
Speaker 2: Hm, hmmm, do you but do you do you? Do

870
00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:51,440
Speaker 2: you fuck up the economy?

871
00:48:51,719 --> 00:48:54,080
Speaker 3: Are you just trying to do what I do?

872
00:48:55,040 --> 00:48:58,600
Speaker 2: I'm trying? Do you do something that like is like

873
00:48:59,719 --> 00:49:04,640
Speaker 2: is not real, like hedge funds something I don't. I'm

874
00:49:04,680 --> 00:49:07,000
Speaker 2: not gonna let this is not a time for me

875
00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:10,279
Speaker 2: to give social economic critiques because I don't know what

876
00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:13,240
Speaker 2: I'm talking about. But I'm just curious.

877
00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:18,680
Speaker 3: Uh No, I just I don't work in the I

878
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Speaker 3: don't work in the money side. I guess this is

879
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Speaker 3: what I'm trying to say.

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Speaker 2: I thought that that's what finance. I thought that's what

881
00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:28,839
Speaker 2: finance means money, Like working.

882
00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:34,480
Speaker 3: For investment firms doesn't particularly mean that you are a

883
00:49:34,560 --> 00:49:38,840
Speaker 3: banker or like you can work on like many different

884
00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:42,919
Speaker 3: sides of working at banking, if that makes sense.

885
00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:44,920
Speaker 1: There's like there's.

886
00:49:44,760 --> 00:49:47,960
Speaker 3: Multiple places, so like you can work in HR. So

887
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Speaker 3: like technically, maybe I'm being misleading saying that I work

888
00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:54,120
Speaker 3: in finance, but like.

889
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Speaker 2: Work do you work in HR?

890
00:49:58,160 --> 00:49:58,359
Speaker 3: No?

891
00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:01,200
Speaker 2: You work for you work for We're an investment firm.

892
00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:04,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, So I just say I'm working man.

893
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Speaker 2: Do you like do you serve? Do you serve lunch

894
00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:10,239
Speaker 2: to people there?

895
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Speaker 3: No?

896
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Speaker 2: I do not.

897
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Speaker 4: I do not.

898
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Speaker 3: I work in the more legal part.

899
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Speaker 2: You're a lawyer. You're a lunch lady lawyer. Yes, that's cool.

900
00:50:27,239 --> 00:50:30,600
Speaker 3: I served the the me loaf at lunch and.

901
00:50:30,520 --> 00:50:34,600
Speaker 2: That's so all right? Wait, all right, So so when

902
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Speaker 2: your investment bank does something illegal, you convince everyone that

903
00:50:41,239 --> 00:50:41,560
Speaker 2: is not.

904
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Speaker 3: Sorry, say that again.

905
00:50:48,360 --> 00:50:53,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll spare you.

906
00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:59,120
Speaker 3: Uh no, I just sorry, go ahead.

907
00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:02,480
Speaker 2: Do you ever do you have parties? Ever? Do you

908
00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:03,360
Speaker 2: ever have parties?

909
00:51:05,800 --> 00:51:11,560
Speaker 3: Yes? The finance and the finances parties are like a

910
00:51:11,640 --> 00:51:16,160
Speaker 3: big part of it. We call it motion networking.

911
00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:19,040
Speaker 2: What are the is it like? Is it like wolf?

912
00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:21,239
Speaker 2: Are you guys doing kludes and ship?

913
00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:28,080
Speaker 3: No? No, it's not like that at all. It's like way,

914
00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:32,800
Speaker 3: it's way more boring than you actually like, we don't

915
00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:39,480
Speaker 3: we don't do shit. Uh like sorry, the team that

916
00:51:39,560 --> 00:51:41,560
Speaker 3: I work for doesn't do shit.

917
00:51:41,920 --> 00:51:46,000
Speaker 7: People are work with, you know, they party a lot more,

918
00:51:47,320 --> 00:51:51,360
Speaker 7: espcially the fact that they're dealing with large amounts of

919
00:51:51,360 --> 00:51:55,799
Speaker 7: money and like clients of the business.

920
00:51:58,400 --> 00:52:03,640
Speaker 2: Well, I'm debating whether or not we should end this

921
00:52:03,800 --> 00:52:06,680
Speaker 2: call right here. If we should talk about finance for

922
00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:09,120
Speaker 2: three more hours.

923
00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:10,440
Speaker 3: I mean I would love to.

924
00:52:10,800 --> 00:52:15,160
Speaker 2: Uh, let me ask the chat. Yeah, okay, let me

925
00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:17,279
Speaker 2: ask the chat if they have any questions, and while

926
00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:21,560
Speaker 2: they're writing questions, you can ask me your questions. What

927
00:52:21,640 --> 00:52:22,800
Speaker 2: are your questions?

928
00:52:23,120 --> 00:52:24,680
Speaker 3: I want to know if you so.

929
00:52:24,800 --> 00:52:28,359
Speaker 6: I watched the documentary on you and like, oh sure,

930
00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:29,080
Speaker 6: I'm a big fan.

931
00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:33,000
Speaker 3: I listened to you like all the time, especially all

932
00:52:33,040 --> 00:52:36,640
Speaker 3: my commute to work. Do you have any pets?

933
00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:40,160
Speaker 2: Do I have any pets? Yeah, you sound like you're

934
00:52:40,160 --> 00:52:44,759
Speaker 2: trying to get into my bank accounts. I have a dog?

935
00:52:45,560 --> 00:52:47,120
Speaker 2: Well no, I mean no, No, that's not true. That's

936
00:52:47,120 --> 00:52:49,239
Speaker 2: not true. I don't. I don't. I don't have I don't.

937
00:52:49,320 --> 00:52:53,960
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't have a dog. But back home,

938
00:52:55,000 --> 00:52:57,920
Speaker 2: my fan, my you know, parents have a dog and

939
00:52:58,000 --> 00:53:01,399
Speaker 2: I consider that my dogs the dog I grew up with.

940
00:53:01,600 --> 00:53:02,640
Speaker 3: Oh what type of dog?

941
00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:05,760
Speaker 2: What's the other question?

942
00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:10,239
Speaker 3: Okay, my girlfriend just wants to you.

943
00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:15,680
Speaker 2: Oh sure, we'll ask her the questions from the chat.

944
00:53:16,680 --> 00:53:21,960
Speaker 4: Hi, lyle Andre, excuse me. He put me on to

945
00:53:22,120 --> 00:53:26,120
Speaker 4: your chat and I work in finance as well, so I.

946
00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:29,880
Speaker 2: Can say, Hi, you guys are dual income? No, kids.

947
00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:33,959
Speaker 4: Yeah, WE'RED whatever the fuck you call them?

948
00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:36,600
Speaker 2: Sorry, yeah, you guys? Are you guys? Are? Do you

949
00:53:36,600 --> 00:53:43,399
Speaker 2: guys are D? I? N L O L Wait you're

950
00:53:43,640 --> 00:53:47,759
Speaker 2: you're du dual income. No league of Legends. That's when

951
00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:49,160
Speaker 2: you'll really be financial free.

952
00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:51,200
Speaker 4: Have no idea you spent that much on league?

953
00:53:52,600 --> 00:53:55,360
Speaker 2: You had no idea. You had no idea he spent

954
00:53:55,400 --> 00:53:58,120
Speaker 2: that much on legal legends? What do you think about?

955
00:53:58,200 --> 00:53:59,520
Speaker 2: What do you think about that spending?

956
00:54:02,280 --> 00:54:04,640
Speaker 4: Good for him? I guess it like makes him happy.

957
00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:06,880
Speaker 4: But at the same time, I'm like, what the fuck

958
00:54:07,120 --> 00:54:11,719
Speaker 4: you spent so much money? So that's why I fell.

959
00:54:13,960 --> 00:54:16,279
Speaker 2: All right, I'll ask one more question from the chat. Uh,

960
00:54:17,080 --> 00:54:21,399
Speaker 2: where did you guys go to college? Oh?

961
00:54:21,560 --> 00:54:26,400
Speaker 4: We can't answer that, but we went somewhere that wasn't

962
00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:32,200
Speaker 4: a huge like place where financial firms went, so we

963
00:54:32,200 --> 00:54:37,120
Speaker 4: were the underdogs. I guess yeah, yeah, well scholarships.

964
00:54:38,480 --> 00:54:40,239
Speaker 2: Is there anything else? Is there anything else you guys

965
00:54:40,280 --> 00:54:42,000
Speaker 2: want to say to the people of the computer before

966
00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:43,200
Speaker 2: we go? Andre?

967
00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:50,799
Speaker 3: I think, just like be kind of people honestly, like, uh,

968
00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:55,480
Speaker 3: we're all going through this should show together, So just

969
00:54:55,560 --> 00:54:59,799
Speaker 3: like be kind of people, like you're gonna make like

970
00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:03,040
Speaker 3: live a much happier license you just are nice to

971
00:55:03,080 --> 00:55:06,120
Speaker 3: everyone that you meet. So anyways, I've learned that from

972
00:55:06,160 --> 00:55:11,080
Speaker 3: like being in New York, like because there are quite

973
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Speaker 3: a bit of rude people here.

974
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Speaker 4: But like you.

975
00:55:13,840 --> 00:55:16,440
Speaker 2: But I don't know you ever see a guy You

976
00:55:16,480 --> 00:55:18,440
Speaker 2: ever see a rude person who actually looks like they're

977
00:55:18,440 --> 00:55:23,080
Speaker 2: having a pretty good time, you know what I mean?

978
00:55:24,120 --> 00:55:27,320
Speaker 2: But I don't have you ever? Have you ever? I

979
00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:31,040
Speaker 2: actually I yelled at an insurance company on the phone,

980
00:55:31,920 --> 00:55:35,399
Speaker 2: uh the other day, and I actually that felt pretty good.

981
00:55:35,840 --> 00:55:39,480
Speaker 2: So I'd be kind to people, but find a little.

982
00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:44,080
Speaker 3: Scam, whether it a scam call or was it like

983
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Speaker 3: just insurance.

984
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Speaker 2: I'll talk to you soon, andre I thank you for calling.

985
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Speaker 3: On the line.

986
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Speaker 2: Making not really an expert.