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Speaker 2: So the fifteen of the ten ber He's Gonna score touchdown.

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Speaker 2: Slam to the ground by Puda Baker Like a torpedo.

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Speaker 2: He came flying into the backfield, Connor to the ten,

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Speaker 2: Here we go, one handed catching a touchdown?

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Speaker 3: Oh baby, how's that fail?

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Speaker 1: Here's Craiggriolou, Paul Calvic and three time pro bowler Kyle Vandenbosch.

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Speaker 4: So I was not aware of this, gentlemen, until this morning,

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Speaker 4: one hundred days from right now until the starts of

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Speaker 4: the twenty twenty three NFL regular season. It sounds like

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Speaker 4: a large number, and it is. Yet it's not that

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Speaker 4: far off, is it not? Considering what we've gone through

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Speaker 4: and what we've discussed and what we will discuss here

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Speaker 4: over the next hour as far as the Cardinals offseason

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Speaker 4: is concerned.

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Speaker 5: So we're one hundred days away from Lions at Chiefs

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Speaker 5: correct to kick off this coming it's officially you got

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Speaker 5: to go a couple more days before you get Cardinals

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Speaker 5: at Washington. Okay, So how long before Kansas City adds

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Speaker 5: DeAndre Hopkins to that receiver room and how many more

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Speaker 5: days in which Andy Reid takes a shot at the

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Speaker 5: new kickoff touchback rule, which he did Normally, Andy Reid

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Speaker 5: isn't one to take many opinions or sides in the

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Speaker 5: NFL in his three decades, right, but he was none

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Speaker 5: too happy about that. So to your point, Craig, there's

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Speaker 5: no lack of headlines and stuff to talk about to

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Speaker 5: get us through the off season.

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Speaker 4: Not a lot of people happy about that new fair

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Speaker 4: catch rule, at least among special teams coordinators, but we're

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Speaker 4: not talking about that. You brought it up Paul the

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Speaker 4: news on Friday, And this was interesting, Kyle, because it

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Speaker 4: was one singular sentence, a total of sixteen words. DeAndre

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Speaker 4: Hopkins released by the Arizona Cardinals. Really not a surprise.

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Speaker 4: The surprise for me, though, was the timing Friday versus

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Speaker 4: of the regular season when you were going to have

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Speaker 4: to make that decision financially whether to pay him that

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Speaker 4: nineteen and a half million or not. The Cardinals obviously

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Speaker 4: are choosing not to do that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they must have. You know, the calls must have

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Speaker 3: dried up. The opportunity to get something in return must

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Speaker 3: not have been there as of late. And you know,

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Speaker 3: I have no problem with the timing. I think if

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Speaker 3: the decision has been made, you want to move forward

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Speaker 3: with the guys that are invested, that are believing in

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Speaker 3: your vision and just ripped a band aid off and

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Speaker 3: you know, this is what we've got, this is who

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Speaker 3: we're going with. You know, if nothing else, you grab

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Speaker 3: some of these young receivers and you say, this is

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Speaker 3: your opportunity. You don't. You no longer get a red

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Speaker 3: shirt year, you don't get an opportunity to ease your

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Speaker 3: way into this. We're gonna need anybody and everybody that

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Speaker 3: can help this offense, help this Arizona Cardinals team moving forward,

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Speaker 3: and hopefully, you know, go out there and be successful

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Speaker 3: and have some catches, because that's a lot of targets

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Speaker 3: that just walked out the door. So you know, there

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Speaker 3: is a tremendous opportunity for those on the roster right now.

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Speaker 4: Make this very clear, DeAndre Hopkins was never going to

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Speaker 4: be on this team in twenty twenty three. The only

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Speaker 4: question was what was going to happen, get released as

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Speaker 4: he was, or could a trade materialized. And that's the

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Speaker 4: disappointing part of this, Paul, is because as productive as

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Speaker 5: Am I surprised that DeAndre Hopkins is no longer an

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Speaker 5: Arizona Cardinal. No, not at all. Am I surprised they

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Speaker 5: Well, bit, Am I surprised it happened the more Friday

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Speaker 5: going into Memorial Day weekend. Yes, although it enables you

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Speaker 5: have the room this year, why not rip off the

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Speaker 5: band aid? And I think it's Kyler Murray's contract that

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Speaker 5: it makes sense. And the kapinomics, I'm not a capologist

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Speaker 5: I think a lot of people heard that comment and said,

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Speaker 5: Those are the four words I would use to describe

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Speaker 5: DeAndre Hopkins and his Arizona Cardinals career in getting to

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Speaker 5: know him, and then once the PD suspension came along,

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Speaker 5: obviously relations were a little strained. And we're still waiting

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Speaker 5: on the more information that supposedly is coming from that

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Speaker 5: Now would be a good time maybe to give that

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Speaker 5: more information as other teams are thinking about DeAndre Hopkins

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Speaker 5: going forward. But yeah, to your point, at thirty one

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Speaker 5: if you're going to start this season the way you

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Speaker 4: I like your analogy, your description, Kyle there as far

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Speaker 4: as ripping the band aid off, and we will dive

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Speaker 4: into what this means now for the wide receivers that

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Speaker 4: trying to get a little bit of an idea, Kyle,

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Speaker 4: window into that. Recently, on the Big Red Rage Passing Game,

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Speaker 6: It's been awesome. Drew's doing a tremendous job. You can

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Speaker 6: You know, it's it's going to be exciting to watch

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Speaker 6: how this offense you know, evolves and develops in suits

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Speaker 4: Personnel and where you are still witting. And I don't

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Speaker 4: think we're gonna get an idea Kyle, until I wouldn't

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Speaker 4: mandatory mini camp coming up June thirteenth through the fifteenth.

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Speaker 4: But this is where you start preparing. And now the

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Speaker 4: Cardinals definitely know what they have at that wide receiver

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Speaker 4: spot and it does not include number ten.

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Speaker 3: No, it's exactly right. And while we don't know, while

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Speaker 3: you know, Drew Tarrell just talked about ever evolving and

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Speaker 3: it's gonna be shifting based on the personnel, which I love.

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Speaker 3: You come up with a game plan, you come up

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Speaker 3: I think what we get a feeling of with Cardinals

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Speaker 3: fans can get a feeling of, is just a shift

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Speaker 3: in general philosophy. Last year and under Cliff Kingsbury, it

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Speaker 3: there was you get a light box, you get some

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Speaker 3: seems like we're shifting to a philosophy based on interviews

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Speaker 3: gonna pound it at you. We're gonna get you to

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Speaker 3: up opportunities in the past game. And I think, you know,

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Speaker 3: just I think it's a great shift in philosophy. And

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Speaker 3: you know, one of the one of the things that

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Speaker 3: points to that is where were our offseason priorities. Well,

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Speaker 3: we used our first round draft pick on an offensive lineman,

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Speaker 7: We.

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Speaker 3: Want to bolster our offensive line, give us an opportunity

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Speaker 4: You re sign Will Hernandez, Calvin Beacham, you added three

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Speaker 4: offensive linemen in free agency depth wise, and per teb

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Speaker 4: perhaps Paul you're starting offensive center. And yell to Froholtz.

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Speaker 4: And to Kyle's point, Yeah, if this shift in philosophy

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Speaker 4: more traditional shift that you run the ball to set

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Speaker 5: Well, that's everything we hear from the players, including this

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Speaker 5: We talked to Corey Clement and they all hint heavily

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Speaker 5: at how it's going to be a much more balanced

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Speaker 5: Would venture to say that one of the reasons DAP

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Speaker 5: be radically different than the last four years. There is

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Speaker 4: More from Terrell on the Big Red Rage, what this

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Speaker 6: Is concerned, trying to find tune fundamentals, determine what type

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Speaker 6: feel for, you know, things they excel at, things that

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Speaker 6: of course you were trying to implement a new system,

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Speaker 4: Looking at this offense a year ago, Paul bottom third

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Speaker 4: have been there, done that. But that's where it starts.

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Speaker 4: You win up front, run the football, and then all

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Speaker 4: of a sudden, passing the ball becomes a lot easier.

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Speaker 5: There was a game late in the season I got

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Speaker 3: Yeah. You look at where Jonathan Gannon came from in

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Speaker 5: How many times guys last season do we hear the

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Speaker 5: Everybody took their turn making that one mistake. Well, that's

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Speaker 4: And they were mental mistakes rather than physical mistakes, guys

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Speaker 4: not being in the proper position. But if to your point, Kyle,

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Speaker 7: Right.

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Speaker 3: It's do you come up with a new and unique

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Speaker 4: Friday, we heard about DeAndre Hopkins. Later on on Friday,

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Speaker 4: Red Sea Report, presented by Seat Geek Your Ticket to

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Speaker 4: Great Seats, Craig Reel, Lupaul Calvic, and Kyle Anabash here

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Speaker 4: on the Arizona Cardinals Radio Network.

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Speaker 8: Oh the shrugs, Yeah, I think I saw myself.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 8: Those are one tens baby, so it's pretty heavy.

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Speaker 5: It's well than your body weight.

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Speaker 1: Ah, you got jokes?

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Speaker 8: Come on, man much Okay, comebine?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, come on, okay, feel better now.

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Speaker 4: We have been wondering why Budda Baker has been silence

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Speaker 4: You want to finish the story in the exchange, Paul.

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Speaker 5: Well, it was a little media scrum right there. It

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Speaker 5: right there. But I did mean twenty two twenty one

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Speaker 5: ten times two is what I meant. That's what he

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Speaker 5: figured he would figure that, you know what, come bye? Yes,

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Speaker 3: It's painful watching you back fed a right. I mean,

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Speaker 5: That's true. Yeah, so there you go. Let's hope he

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Speaker 4: Well, while he's doing one tens, Kyle's probably doing what

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Speaker 5: Five move the decimal point over maybe two spots more

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Speaker 3: I'll just leave it at that.

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Speaker 4: Buddha Baker breaks his silence. We have not heard from him,

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Speaker 4: We have not seen him during this voluntary off season

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Speaker 4: But cam Cox over at twelve Sports, catching up with

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Speaker 8: Friday, letting the business aspect handle the business aspect, let

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Speaker 8: Oh yeah, of course I'll be there when it's time

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Speaker 3: There's no doubt that he's got a big smile. He

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 3: My two takeaways from that interview is one, this interview

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Speaker 5: And I can second that I've heard good things behind

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Speaker 5: And we're hitting the reset button. A Buddha Baker is

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Speaker 5: And by the way, he's by far your biggest star

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Speaker 4: Well, let's go back to when general manager Monti austin

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Speaker 4: DJ Humphreys is going to be in the same boat,

437
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Speaker 4: under contract for two years but with no guaranteed money,

438
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Speaker 4: and I'm interested. I can see it going either way.

439
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Speaker 4: But it wouldn't surprise me if this team did nothing

440
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Speaker 4: to that contract and just said, hey, let's revisit this

441
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Speaker 4: next offseason.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there's two precedents to think about here. The one

443
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Speaker 3: on the one hand, yes, you you don't want as

444
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Speaker 3: an organization, as a front office, you don't want players

445
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Speaker 3: to hold your feet to the fire, and you cave

446
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Speaker 3: because that becomes a bad precedent. In every subsequent year,

447
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Speaker 3: there will be another player that decides, hey, I want

448
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Speaker 3: more money, I want more guaranteed money even though I

449
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Speaker 3: got two years left. So yes, you do not necessarily

450
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Speaker 3: want to set that precedent, particularly when you're a new GM.

451
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Speaker 3: You you were trying to build this team for years

452
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Speaker 3: to come. However, I think you do need to set

453
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Speaker 3: a precedent that when you find a player like Buddha Baker,

454
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Speaker 3: when you understand the impact that he has not just

455
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Speaker 3: on your defense, but on your teammates, on your fan base,

456
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Speaker 3: on how he raises the level of practice of every

457
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Speaker 3: single player on this team, I think you do need

458
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Speaker 3: to set a precedent that these are the type of

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Speaker 3: players we value. We will make an exception for buddhim

460
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Speaker 3: because quite frankly, there is only one Buddha Baker. If

461
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Speaker 3: somebody comes to the team next year and says, I've

462
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Speaker 3: got two years left, I want a new deal, Buddha

463
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Speaker 3: Baker got one. They got to say. All they have

464
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Speaker 3: to do is plug in the tape and say do

465
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Speaker 3: that then then come back to me, you know what

466
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Speaker 3: I mean? So I think I think you when you

467
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Speaker 3: come in and you talk about what your values are

468
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Speaker 3: and what your culture needs to look like, and you

469
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Speaker 3: have somebody that exemplifies that culture every single day, I

470
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Speaker 3: think you need to reward that and say this is

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Speaker 3: our building block, this is what we're looking for, this

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Speaker 3: is what we're asking of you, because he is the

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Speaker 3: example that sometimes as a coaching staff effort is just

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Speaker 3: an abstract to players. But when you have that example

475
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Speaker 3: in your locker room and you could point to it

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Speaker 3: on game days, and you could point to it on

477
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Speaker 3: practice days, you could point to it in summer workouts,

478
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Speaker 3: when you could say, this is what I'm asking, this

479
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Speaker 3: is what we look for, this is how we envision

480
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Speaker 3: Arizona Cardinals. I think you need to make sure that

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Speaker 3: he is happy and he is around so that he

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Speaker 3: can continue to lead in that way.

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Speaker 5: And by the way, I know the Cardinals are taking

484
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Speaker 5: that cap charge right the hit with the DeAndre Hopkins release,

485
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Speaker 5: but they're saving over nineteen million dollars. That's real money,

486
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Speaker 5: real dollars not being spent. So what aretheodds dot dot

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Speaker 5: dot that there might be a restructuring a Buddha Baker's

488
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Speaker 5: deal and maybe some money upfront because of that is

489
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Speaker 5: indeed the issue, no guaranteed money left. Maybe there's a

490
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Speaker 5: signing bonus coming his way of some sort. You know,

491
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Speaker 5: there's always a way if there's a will, and so

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Speaker 5: I wouldn't be surprised if one leads to another in

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Speaker 5: terms of just the business side of allocating money.

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Speaker 4: And that's the one thing. Players in the locker room

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Speaker 4: understand the business. Whether you're here or not. Are you

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Speaker 4: going to be here week one? Take care of your

497
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Speaker 4: business aspects, the contract or whatever in the off season.

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Speaker 4: Make sure you're ready week one.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's you know, as a player in a locker room,

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Speaker 3: you don't ever worry about somebody else's bank account, how

501
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Speaker 3: much they're making. You just want your team to be

502
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Speaker 3: the best it can be, and the only way for

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Speaker 3: that to happen is for Buddha Baker to be on

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Speaker 3: the field week one.

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Speaker 5: Think about it, though, one player in this scenario wasn't

506
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Speaker 5: too interested in finishing out the last couple of games

507
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Speaker 5: last year, while another guy to fight all the doctor's projections.

508
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Speaker 5: He's supposed to be out two or three weeks of

509
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Speaker 5: the high ankle spring, and he played in a matter

510
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Speaker 5: of days and didn't miss a game.

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Speaker 4: Certainly the heart and soul of this Arizona Cardinals team,

512
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Speaker 4: Buddha Baker will see what happens with his future, both

513
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Speaker 4: immediate and long term. This is the Arizona Cardinals Radio Network.

514
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Speaker 2: Murray and Shotgun takes the snap, drops back to past books, right,

515
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Speaker 2: throws right, More caught at thirty, turns right twenty five

516
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Speaker 2: to twenty four, breaks a tackle to the ten to

517
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Speaker 2: the five touchdown. There's the explosive play from Rondale More.

518
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Speaker 2: We have been waiting for Shotgun formation snap to Murray,

519
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Speaker 2: quick throw a left side. It's fought at the one

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Speaker 2: and into.

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Speaker 3: The end zone.

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Speaker 2: For the touchdown is Greg dort Ury in an empty

523
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Speaker 2: set in Shotgun takes a snap re step drop, looks.

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Speaker 3: Over the middle, throws and.

525
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Speaker 2: It's bought by Brown. First down makes a man mess

526
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Speaker 2: at the fifteenth cut right to the ten.

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Speaker 3: Brown is into the up top before a touchdown.

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Speaker 2: Hollywood Brown PESTVN spectacular.

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Speaker 4: What an incredible play by Hollywood Crown. Those are your

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Speaker 4: three hop wide receivers returning in twenty twenty three, Hollywood Brown,

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Speaker 4: Rondel Moore and Greg Dortch. And it is fitting that

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Speaker 4: we have Kyle Vannenboss here this week on the Cardinals

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Speaker 4: Red Seat Report presented by seat Geek Your ticket to

534
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Speaker 4: Great Seats, because I don't know if there is a

535
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Speaker 4: bigger Greg Dortch fan than you, Colin. By the way,

536
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Speaker 4: happy birthday, belated, Happy birthday to one Greg Dortch. But

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Speaker 4: he you make an argument, Kyle that he was your

538
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Speaker 4: most consistent based off his availability pass catcher last season.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, I think he had the highest percentage of catches

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Speaker 3: when targeted. I mean he just every time when given

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Speaker 3: the opportunity, he took advantage of it, and he had

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Speaker 3: a couple of huge games for the Arizona Cardinals. And

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Speaker 3: I think about what we were talking about a little

544
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Speaker 3: bit earlier in an earlier segment about simplifying the offense

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Speaker 3: to simplifying the defense. What was the reason we kept

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Speaker 3: hearing like Greg Dortch wasn't getting more playing time even

547
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Speaker 3: though he was performing on Sundays. It was we need

548
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Speaker 3: to see it more in practice. He needs to get

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Speaker 3: a better grasp of the offense. He needs to show

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Speaker 3: us that he understands the offense in practice. Well, you know,

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Speaker 3: I if that is the case, if you're a coach

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Speaker 3: and your players don't get it, then that's on the coaches,

553
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Speaker 3: Like You've got to find a way to utilize your talents.

554
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Speaker 3: You've got to find a way to if he's not

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Speaker 3: getting on the field because he doesn't understand all the

556
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Speaker 3: complex concepts that you have installed. Then you need to simplify.

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Speaker 3: So I expect him to. Even though he has done

558
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Speaker 3: things and has had big games and has been a

559
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Speaker 3: big factor at times for the Arizona Cardinals, I expect

560
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Speaker 3: this to be his coming out year. And you know,

561
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Speaker 3: the other two, with Rondel Moore and Hollywood Brown, their

562
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Speaker 3: opportunity is just staying healthy. You know, we've all seen

563
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Speaker 3: how dynamic Rondell Moore is with the football, and you know,

564
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Speaker 3: we kept hearing about how he was going to get

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Speaker 3: an expanded passing tree and run more deep routes and

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Speaker 3: not all of his catches were going to be two

567
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Speaker 3: yards behind the line of scrimmage, and it just never

568
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Speaker 3: came to fruition. So I'm hoping that we see some

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Speaker 3: of those things this year and and if those two

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Speaker 3: can stay healthy. Look, the cupboard isn't empty. There's a

571
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Speaker 3: lot of talent in this wide receiver's room. It's just

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Speaker 3: a matter of utilizing it and putting them in the

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Speaker 3: best position to succeed.

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Speaker 4: Hollywood missed five games last season. Rondell Moore missed nine games,

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Speaker 4: so Yeah, as they say, Paul, your best ability is

576
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Speaker 4: availability in last season and just based the entire career

577
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Speaker 4: young career of a Ron Moore has been the lack

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Speaker 4: of availability.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: And he's wanted to show desperately that he's a down

581
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Speaker 5: the field receiver. He's not just a sideline a sideline.

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Speaker 5: Throw it to him in space and see if he

583
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Speaker 5: can make a man miss. You know, he wants to

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Speaker 5: prove he has a developed route tree and he can

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Speaker 5: be a reliable target downfield. And a few times he

586
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Speaker 5: was targeted downfield. Guess what, he was productive. He did

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Speaker 5: have separation, it's just can he stay on the field.

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Speaker 5: As for Hollywood Brown, remember when he went down in

589
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Speaker 5: Week six on that late game play with Tarik Wollen

590
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Speaker 5: in coverage and the two of them went down in

591
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Speaker 5: a tumble and boom, he ended up hurting his foot.

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Speaker 5: He was top five or top seven and both the

593
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Speaker 5: receptions and receiving yards, he was very productive. He was

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Speaker 5: among the NFL leaders. And that's from an offense that

595
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Speaker 5: was not firing in all cylinders. And then Greg Dortch,

596
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Speaker 5: did anybody bring it more in training camp than Greg Dortch?

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Speaker 5: He just seemed to have an edge that a lot

598
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Speaker 5: of other offensive players didn't have last season. And for

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Speaker 5: everyone who dismissed his training camp, Greg dors picked up

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Speaker 5: where he left off in August and kept producing throughout

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Speaker 5: the entire season. And I think one reason why is

602
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Speaker 5: he went into every single practice during Cardinal's training camp

603
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Speaker 5: knowing he better performed, he better be productive, or he

604
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Speaker 5: wasn't going to be on the final fifty three.

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Speaker 4: Curious on how those three receivers will be used within

606
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Speaker 4: this offense. They have a new position coach again, Drew Terrell,

607
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Speaker 4: the passing game coordinator wide receivers coach, last week a

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Speaker 4: guess of the Big Red rage on what he sees

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Speaker 4: out of more Dorch and Brown.

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Speaker 6: We're going to try to maximize those guys' skill sets.

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Speaker 6: And you know what I've seen so far, those guys

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Speaker 6: have been outstanding. They've been locked in. You know, they're

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Speaker 6: working their tail off, They're trying as best they can

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Speaker 6: to grasp and learn, and they're asking the right questions.

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Speaker 6: And something that I've been preaching is being extremely deliberate

616
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Speaker 6: with their thought process and the way they go about practice,

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Speaker 6: and those guys have been outstanding in that regard.

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Speaker 4: All three, though on the smaller side as far as

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Speaker 4: height is concerned. And that brings us to Michael Wilson,

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Speaker 4: the draft pick and Zach Paskell, one of the top

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Speaker 4: free agent acquisitions this team made. And let's start with

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Speaker 4: your boy, Michael Wilson of the great University of Stanford

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Speaker 4: in Palo Alto, Paul. But with him, you do have

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Speaker 4: that size six feet two inches tall. But again, his

625
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Speaker 4: issue has been injuries in college. But if he is

626
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Speaker 4: able to stay on the football field, and when he

627
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Speaker 4: was healthy, he was very productive.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, highly intelligent, highly skilled, just highly productive when he's

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Speaker 5: been on in the field. He does have that burst

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Speaker 5: after the catch, the ability to make people miss and

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Speaker 5: or run through them. In his size six ' to

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Speaker 5: two over two hundred and fifteen pounds, he just.

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Speaker 3: Looks the part.

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Speaker 5: He's incredibly intelligent. He's already graduated from Stanford with a

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Speaker 5: master's degree in Communication and Media studies, and he has

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Speaker 5: a bachelor's and management science.

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Speaker 3: Okay, hello.

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Speaker 5: And then he went into the Senior Bowl knowing because

639
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Speaker 5: he had those last three years of his college career

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Speaker 5: impacted by injury, went into the Senior Bowl knowing, this

641
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Speaker 5: was my chance to actually be drafted to prove that

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Speaker 5: I can play, and he did. He was one of

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Speaker 5: the stars of the Senior Bowl and he showed that

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Speaker 5: he could compete with some of the best defenders in

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Speaker 5: the nation. So that would be a best case scenario

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Speaker 5: because you do need to fill out that room behind

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Speaker 5: the three established receivers. If Michael Wilson, you're a third

648
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Speaker 5: round pick, could come in and actually be, you know,

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Speaker 5: part of that rotation from day one, that would be huge.

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Speaker 4: Four catches, seventy six receiving yards at the Senior Bowl

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Speaker 4: plus the game ceiling touchdown for his team. So young

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Speaker 4: as far as a draft pick, Kyle, but someone that

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Speaker 4: comes in with that background not only at the position,

654
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Speaker 4: but also the background Withdrew Terrell and then he went

655
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:40,320
Speaker 4: to the same alma mater where the same number and

656
00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:43,040
Speaker 4: now all of a sudden he's coming in. There's an opportunity,

657
00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:46,040
Speaker 4: certainly without d Hop in that room, there's an opportunity

658
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Speaker 4: for someone specifically in a younger player.

659
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Speaker 3: Yeah, somebody with a little bit of size too, like

660
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Speaker 3: you talked about earlier. I mean, it was basically the

661
00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:56,920
Speaker 3: reason that we wasted a draft pick signing Robbie Anderson

662
00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:59,280
Speaker 3: last year's we wanted another receiver with a little bit

663
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Speaker 3: of size that could stretch the field. And and you know,

664
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Speaker 3: you've got to think that this is your guy. He's

665
00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:06,400
Speaker 3: you know, he's got the size, he's got the catch radius,

666
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:09,440
Speaker 3: he's a tremendous athlete, and he may end up being

667
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:13,120
Speaker 3: a steal. I mean, he's he's your prototype build in

668
00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:16,800
Speaker 3: wide receivers. So and he's got an opportunity, you know.

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Speaker 3: I again, I don't want to be critical of what

670
00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:22,520
Speaker 3: happened last year, but it seemed like it was so

671
00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:25,840
Speaker 3: hard for rookies to get on the field, to get

672
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:29,040
Speaker 3: action early in the season, to get some valuable experience

673
00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:32,080
Speaker 3: throughout the course of his season. And and he will

674
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Speaker 3: have that opportunity. And you know, not to go back

675
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Speaker 3: to the the d Hop issue or or the d

676
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Speaker 3: you know him leaving. But I think with this receiving cores,

677
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:44,880
Speaker 3: it is more talented than people give it credit for.

678
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Speaker 3: I think it will make Kyler Murray a better quarterback

679
00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:50,720
Speaker 3: because there is sometimes where you're like, oh, de Hop's

680
00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:54,160
Speaker 3: got single coverage. I'm going there, I'm under pressure. I'm

681
00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:55,600
Speaker 3: just throwing it up to d Hop. You know, like

682
00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:58,880
Speaker 3: he is your he's your you hit the panic button

683
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Speaker 3: and you just throw it to d Hop because he's

684
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Speaker 3: either going to make a play or he's going to

685
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Speaker 3: break it up. Well, now you've got to go through

686
00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:06,120
Speaker 3: your reads, you got to go through your progressions. It's

687
00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:11,200
Speaker 3: it's you know, no player in particular stands out as

688
00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:14,640
Speaker 3: being your number one. The guy that I've got to feed,

689
00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:17,040
Speaker 3: he's got to get fifteen targets a game. You can

690
00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:19,120
Speaker 3: spread the ball around, you can take advantage of what

691
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Speaker 3: the defense gives you and not just force feed it

692
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Speaker 3: to one particular player.

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Speaker 4: In just six games last season because of a collarbone injury,

694
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Speaker 4: Michael Wilson led Stanford with four receiving touchdowns. His position

695
00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:34,640
Speaker 4: coach Drew Terrell last week on the Big Red Rage

696
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Speaker 4: on the young kid from Stanford.

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Speaker 6: When you dig into the tape, what you find is,

698
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Speaker 6: you know a kid that's extremely detailed. You know, he's

699
00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:46,400
Speaker 6: got great athleticism, a great skill set, got good size,

700
00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:48,560
Speaker 6: moves really well for his size. But he was making

701
00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:51,279
Speaker 6: plays on tape. To translate to this game, his play

702
00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:53,600
Speaker 6: speed was outstanding. He was attacking the football away from

703
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Speaker 6: his body. You know, Mike was checking boxes. And then

704
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Speaker 6: you go back and you watch the Senior Bowl. You

705
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Speaker 6: know what he was able to do and truly competitive

706
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Speaker 6: one on one situations is you know, he was one

707
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Speaker 6: of the top guys there.

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Speaker 4: Again, the size, Michael Wilson has six feet two inches tall. Also,

709
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Speaker 4: Zach Pascal, one of the few free agents this offseason

710
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Speaker 4: to get a multi year contract from the Cardinals, has

711
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Speaker 4: that six foot two inch frame. Maybe utilized more with

712
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Speaker 4: the Arizona Cardinals. Paul, before we get your thoughts on

713
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Speaker 4: Zach Pascal, about Terrell on Pascal joining that wide receiver's room,

714
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Speaker 4: and look.

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Speaker 5: I can tell you that he really likes the physicality

716
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Speaker 5: of a Zach Pascal. On the Big Red Rage, he

717
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Speaker 5: just immediately he got up in his seat, Drew Terrell,

718
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Speaker 5: and he talked about just the physicality, the way he

719
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Speaker 5: leads by example, how he was underutilized in Philadelphia. Look,

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Speaker 5: that's not a crime. They had a lot of talent

721
00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:50,640
Speaker 5: on that Eagles offense obviously, but the two years prior

722
00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:53,960
Speaker 5: for Indianapolis, he was one of the leading receivers. He

723
00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:57,480
Speaker 5: does not drop footballs. He is willing to put his

724
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Speaker 5: body on the line. He plays all the special teams.

725
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Speaker 5: He's gonna get dirty when it comes to the run. Game,

726
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Speaker 5: he's gonna be blocking and look to me, I know

727
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:07,239
Speaker 5: it sounds crazy, but when you watch some of these

728
00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:10,560
Speaker 5: receivers out here on air, I think you can make

729
00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:12,800
Speaker 5: a determination about a lot of these receivers one of

730
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Speaker 5: the few positions because we have seen receivers come into

731
00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:18,160
Speaker 5: the past, whether free agents or whether they're draft picks,

732
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:22,479
Speaker 5: and if they're fighting the football just in drills, look out,

733
00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:25,080
Speaker 5: that's a bad sign. And both Michael Wilson and Zach

734
00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:29,000
Speaker 5: Passel there are natural easy pass catchers away from the body,

735
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Speaker 5: and you're like, Okay, at least he has a chance,

736
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Speaker 5: because if you can't catch the ball consistently in some

737
00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:36,960
Speaker 5: of these offseason drills, it's gonna be ultra difficult once

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Speaker 5: the season begins.

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Speaker 4: You don't have that football hitting you in the chest.

740
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Speaker 4: You're catching it out here and being able to not

741
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:44,640
Speaker 4: only catch a kyle but catch it on the run,

742
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Speaker 4: and those yards after catch are always big.

743
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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's huge, the yak yardage. I mean it's especially

744
00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:56,440
Speaker 3: you know, the quarterback has to put it in position

745
00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:58,440
Speaker 3: to where you can catch it and run it. But

746
00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:01,839
Speaker 3: for a receiver, you know, the amazing thing you see

747
00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:04,120
Speaker 3: with some of these NFL wide receivers is like they

748
00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:05,520
Speaker 3: have eyes in the back of their head. They catch

749
00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:06,880
Speaker 3: the ball and they spend the right way and the

750
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Speaker 3: dB misses. And you know, Zach Pascal's he's just a

751
00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:12,520
Speaker 3: football player. And I love that about him. And to

752
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Speaker 3: Paul's point, you know, hearing him speak and in an interview,

753
00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:19,960
Speaker 3: how much pride he takes in special teams. You know,

754
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:24,160
Speaker 3: somebody recently told me, like, the way you judge how

755
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:27,040
Speaker 3: physical and how tough a football team is is how

756
00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:30,560
Speaker 3: they cover kicks. And Zach Pascal covers kicks like a

757
00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:32,719
Speaker 3: mad man. And he's a tone setter for your team.

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Speaker 3: And you know he's he's he loves the game of football.

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00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:38,680
Speaker 3: He loves uh just hearing his voice. He loves the

760
00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:41,839
Speaker 3: practice and the preparation and and you got to think

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00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:45,959
Speaker 3: that he is really excited about this opportunity because he does.

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Speaker 3: You know, he's coming in with the new coaching staff.

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Speaker 3: He's coming into a room where there is opportunity, and

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Speaker 3: if he shows out, he will be given that opportunity.

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Speaker 5: I'm also looking forward to seeing Zach Pascal and Michael

766
00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:02,360
Speaker 5: Wilson break tackles. We've seen Cardinals' receivers in recent history.

767
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Speaker 5: They'll make men miss, but how many are the Cardinals'

768
00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:07,920
Speaker 5: receivers actually break a tackle? Now, I'm not saying these

769
00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:09,920
Speaker 5: guys are gonna be Deebo Samuel and run through like

770
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Speaker 5: four guys, but I think there will be an element

771
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Speaker 5: of physicality two yards after the catch.

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Speaker 4: Six feet two inches tall, two hundred and fourteen yards,

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Speaker 4: twenty eight years old, so still maybe in the prime

774
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Speaker 4: of his playing career, despite not seeing a lot of

775
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Speaker 4: catches a year ago. Let's go back to the big

776
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Speaker 4: red rage. Drew Terrell on the example Pascal will set

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Speaker 4: for those young wide receivers in the room.

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Speaker 6: ZP is a guy that's you know, he's been outstanding.

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Speaker 6: He's been really good for our room. We've got some

780
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Speaker 6: young guys in the room, and he's a great example of,

781
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Speaker 6: you know, perseverance. He was an undrafted guy, a guy

782
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Speaker 6: to start off on a practice squad, you know, became

783
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Speaker 6: the Colts leading receiver. Like you said, he was in

784
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Speaker 6: Philly where they had a you know, a pretty high

785
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Speaker 6: profile room. But he's a reliable guy. Talked to the

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Speaker 6: coaches there and I mean, they love ZP and it

787
00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:57,239
Speaker 6: was tough for them to lose him. But you know,

788
00:38:57,280 --> 00:39:01,000
Speaker 6: their loss is our game. So I'm you know, a

789
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:02,240
Speaker 6: ton of respect for ZP.

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Speaker 4: Glad we have going back previously with the Indianapolis colts Ky,

791
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Speaker 4: you look at just the production seventy two, seventy one

792
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Speaker 4: and sixty nine receptions.

793
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Speaker 3: Again, he was.

794
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Speaker 4: Behind a lot of top talent last season with Philadelphia.

795
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Speaker 4: So Pascal, well, the resume recently is not great. Over

796
00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:24,680
Speaker 4: his career, he has been a productive wide receiver and

797
00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:28,200
Speaker 4: plus that special teams aspect, former kick returner as well.

798
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's you know, you're not hoping that you get production.

799
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Speaker 3: He has done it. He has been there, he has

800
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:38,680
Speaker 3: made big catches. He's been a consistent receiver. And you know,

801
00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:42,840
Speaker 3: you got to think that both he and and this team,

802
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:46,400
Speaker 3: you know, love this culture of competition because he isn't.

803
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:49,560
Speaker 3: He didn't sign and they didn't tell him. We love

804
00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:51,160
Speaker 3: the way you play special teams. You're going to be

805
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:53,839
Speaker 3: our special team, Mace. And that's it, right, They said

806
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:56,839
Speaker 3: the door is open, and Jonathan Gannon said that in

807
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Speaker 3: his first day he wants to create a culture of

808
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:03,040
Speaker 3: competition and nobody, you're gonna earn your playing time. And

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Speaker 3: so you know, while I haven't been to the OTAs,

810
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Speaker 3: I don't get an opportunity to watch him practice. You

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Speaker 3: got to think that at twenty eight years old, you know,

812
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:14,560
Speaker 3: again not getting a lot of opportunities. Last year, he's

813
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Speaker 3: out on that practice field practicing like his hair is

814
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Speaker 3: on fire.

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Speaker 5: And he goes way back with Jonathan Gannon back to

816
00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:22,040
Speaker 5: their colts stays. I'm looking forward to Cardinals camp and

817
00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:24,680
Speaker 5: hearing Zach Pascal and JG go at each other far

818
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:27,640
Speaker 5: back and forth right, have some of that trash talk

819
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Speaker 5: that they're famous for. Apparently, you know when JG was

820
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Speaker 5: the DBST coach in Indianapolis, would they would compete and

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Speaker 5: they would make it known when one side would win

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Speaker 5: and the other wouldn't. So I think Zach Pascal is

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Speaker 5: to this Cardinals offense and the new head coach what

824
00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:45,160
Speaker 5: Kaizer White is through the defense guys coming in, leading

825
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Speaker 5: by example and really modeling that culture.

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Speaker 4: Can be extension of the coaching staff as far as

827
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Speaker 4: extra help for those players that might not be familiar

828
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Speaker 4: what the offense wants to do. Arizona Cardinals single game

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Speaker 2: Snapped. The Smith drops back to throw, pressure in his space,

834
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Speaker 2: He's in trouble and he goes down. He sacked back

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Speaker 2: at the twenty one yard line. Cam Thomas, the rookie

836
00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:32,720
Speaker 2: is there for the Cardinals to make the play. First

837
00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:35,800
Speaker 2: career sack for Cam Thomas. Herbert back to throw on

838
00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:39,080
Speaker 2: third down in trouble, steps up, sacked again at the

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Speaker 2: forty four yard line. This time it's Cam Thomas. Steps

840
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Speaker 2: up in the pocket, gets hit, armed, is hit.

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Speaker 9: Ball flutters picked off by Simmons at the forty yard

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Speaker 9: line and tackled at the thirty seven. Cam Thomas wife

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Speaker 9: at the throwing arm of Mac Jones. The ball fluttered

844
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Speaker 9: into the air, picked off by Simmons.

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Speaker 4: Year one for Cameron Thomas, three sacks for him. Now

846
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Speaker 4: the question is what does he do in year two?

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Speaker 4: As we say welcome back, it is the Cardinals Red

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Speaker 5: Well.

850
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:16,239
Speaker 4: A lot of work in the offseason for one Cameron Thomas,

851
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Speaker 4: and also some work with another team, the Minnesota Vikings.

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Speaker 6: Gentlemen.

853
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Speaker 4: Just announced that the Arizona Cardinals are going to be

854
00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:27,200
Speaker 4: in Minnesota for a couple of days prior to that

855
00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:30,400
Speaker 4: third and final preseason game on August twenty six, for

856
00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:33,480
Speaker 4: a couple of days potential joint practices.

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Speaker 3: So I can't think of a.

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Speaker 4: Better way for a pass rusher Kyle going into year

859
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Speaker 4: two than to going up against that Vikings offensive line

860
00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:45,840
Speaker 4: or those running backs in those pass rush drills.

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00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:49,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's huge. You know, I only got the opportunity

862
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Speaker 3: to do it once. We did it against the Rams

863
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:54,440
Speaker 3: in training camp. We practiced against them. There is so

864
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Speaker 3: much value in it. You get so much more done.

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Speaker 3: You could practice on two different fields, and you know

866
00:42:59,840 --> 00:43:02,359
Speaker 3: your offense can go against their defense, their defense can

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Speaker 3: go against your offense. There's less, Uh, you would think

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Speaker 3: there'd be more injury risk because everybody's competing and nobody

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Speaker 3: wants to lose, particularly against another team. And there's no

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Speaker 3: brother in law that sometimes goes on it. Your own practices,

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Speaker 3: but you know you're not banging against each other, and

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Speaker 3: so it's it's a tremendous opportunity. And and you know

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Speaker 3: you go against you know, if you're an edge rusher

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Speaker 3: and after a while, you figure out, hey, this move

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Speaker 3: works pretty well against DJ Humphries. I'm gonna keep using it,

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Speaker 3: keep using it, keep using it every time we do

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Speaker 3: one on one pass rush throughout the offseason. It's not

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Speaker 3: making you a better player. You need to play against

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Speaker 3: different players and try different things and experiment with new

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Speaker 3: moves and and because every pass rusher is different, every

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Speaker 3: offensive tackle is different, and so every guard, every center,

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Speaker 3: everybody does things differently. So to get an opportunity to

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Speaker 3: go and face another team, new players, different skill sets,

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Speaker 3: even different schemes that you you know you don't get

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Speaker 3: the opportunity to see because you know you get you

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Speaker 3: after a while, figure out what your offensive checks are,

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Speaker 3: what their calls are, what the routes they like to

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Speaker 3: run in certain situations, and again you just get kind

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Speaker 3: of stuck in your progress. You need to work that

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Speaker 3: against different teams, see different things, and experiment with new

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Speaker 5: The joint practices I've been to there's been more intensity

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Speaker 5: at the joint practice than the subsequent preseason game because

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Speaker 5: you actually get ones on ones and guys don't want

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Speaker 5: to look bad all of a sudden. Marco Wilson is

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Speaker 5: up against Justin Jefferson or I don't know, Paris Johnson

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Speaker 5: Junior going against Daniel Hunter. I mean the stakes are

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Speaker 5: high in those settings, and all the media's there, with

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Speaker 5: all the cameras. It elevates practice to a degree you'll

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Speaker 5: never get during your own training.

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Speaker 4: Gamp Cardinals at the Vikings to close out preseason play

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Speaker 4: on Saturday, August twenty six. They'll be in Minnesota though

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Speaker 4: for a couple of days prior to that, or joint

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Speaker 4: practices against the Vikings. More on that as the offseason unfolds.

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