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Speaker 1: Hey, this is Annie and Smansa and welcome to stuff

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Speaker 1: I've never told to you production of iHeart Radio. Yes,

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Speaker 1: and welcome to another happy hour. And it is actually

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Speaker 1: on a Thursday. It is a rainy Thursday. Yes, it's

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Speaker 1: lightning and thundering. So sorry, Christina, it's gonna give our

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Speaker 1: happy hour a sinister note, which is really sad because

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Speaker 1: my cocktail is so light and lovely and as per

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Speaker 1: usual at the very top. If you are drinking, please

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Speaker 1: drink responsibly. Please note we are not actually sponsored. And

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Speaker 1: most of the alcohols and or drinks that we are

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Speaker 1: talking about are because we think it's amazing what these

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Speaker 1: doing and are typically and by women or um non

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Speaker 1: great they're doing things. Yes, and I'm not gonna lie.

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Speaker 1: This has been one of my favorite segments. I've tried

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Speaker 1: so many new things thus far. Yes, what do you

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Speaker 1: think Anny? Yes, well, it's funny because I feel like

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Speaker 1: this was part of your original plan was to get

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Speaker 1: stuff to make friends. Yes, and here you are and

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Speaker 1: and speaking of which yes, today marks as what I'm

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Speaker 1: And if you have been listening since the beginning of

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Speaker 1: when I've been on, you already kind of know I

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Speaker 1: had an agenda. And that being said, I have been

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Speaker 1: and that is the CEO uh Neyana Ferguson, who we

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Speaker 1: highlighted their tequila not too long ago until two Key

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Speaker 1: she was so kind to not only listen to our

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Speaker 1: episode of featuring their amazing entail tequila, her amazing tequila,

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Speaker 1: but sit as a bottle of their very unique and

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Speaker 1: delightful coconut Lime Blanco tequila. She was like, look, look, look,

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Speaker 1: another one. And I was like, yes, please, so excited,

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Speaker 1: and so of course we had to go on to

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Speaker 1: their site to create their recipes for different cocktails and Annie,

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Speaker 1: what do you have in your pretty little hands? Thank you?

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Speaker 1: I hand still get well though, that's fantastic. You have

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Speaker 1: some good, very American nail. Polo is going on because

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Speaker 1: The pictures are hilarious. They're so good. It's some of

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Speaker 1: my favorite things I've ever seen. So first of all,

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Speaker 1: I love coconut. It's one of my very favorite flavors,

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Speaker 1: So I love that I'm drinking the tequila sour, which

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Speaker 1: that you were correct. I did have a lemon, so

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Speaker 1: they're all of their alcohols. They are about to release

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Speaker 1: they're killing it in this game. Absolutely. I believe they're

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Speaker 1: also coming to Atlanta this month Annie to do a

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Speaker 1: phenomenal work. And when we were talking about doing until

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Speaker 1: of y'all. Cheers too, and till cheers in Nyana making changes,

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