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Speaker 3: Welcome to Daily Variety, your daily dose of news and

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Speaker 3: analysis for entertainment industry insiders. It's Thursday, February twenty six,

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Speaker 3: twenty twenty six. I'm your host, Cynthia Littleton. I am

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Speaker 3: co editor in chief of Variety alongside Ramin Sutuda. I'm

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Speaker 3: around the world covering the business of entertainment. In today's episode,

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Speaker 3: we'll hear from John Brockett, executive producer and showrunner of

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Speaker 3: the Actor Awards previously known as the SAG Awards. The

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Speaker 3: show airs live on Netflix March first, from the Shrine

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Speaker 3: Auditorium in LA Brockett talks about the changes in producing

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Speaker 3: this theme of celebrating retro Hollywood glamour, and Yes, host

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Speaker 3: Kristen Bell will sing her opening number again. That was

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Speaker 3: year's Actor Awards, singing do you Want to be an Actor?

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Speaker 3: Brockett promises that this year's opening number will be just

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Speaker 3: as much fun. But before we get to all of that,

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Speaker 3: here are a few headlines just in this morning that

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Speaker 3: you need to know. Warner Brothers Discovery reported Q four

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Speaker 3: earnings early Thursday. The numbers show clear evidence that the

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Speaker 3: loss of NBA rights has put a dent in linear

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Speaker 3: cable advertising revenue for the company. Overall, Warner Brothers Discovery

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Speaker 3: for HBO Max. David zaslown company held a somewhat awkward

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Speaker 3: Variety dot Com and our social platforms. Meanwhile, Adult Swim

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Speaker 3: of this year's can Film Festival Jury. The seventy ninth

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Speaker 3: edition of the world's most famous film festival runs May

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Speaker 3: twelfth through twenty third. All of these stories and so

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Speaker 3: much more can be found on Variety dot com. Right now,

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Speaker 3: we'll hear from Actor Awards executive producer John Brockett Right

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Speaker 1: The Actor Awards, presented by sag After, are back and

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Speaker 1: live only on Netflix Sunday, March first, at eight pm Eastern,

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Speaker 1: five pm Pacific. Award winning actress and producer Kristen Bell

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Speaker 1: that looks just as fun to watch from home as

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Speaker 1: unexpected parians, the iconic I'm An Actor segment, and more.

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Speaker 1: And this year there's even a fashion theme reimagining Hollywood

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Speaker 1: by Paige Disorbo and Scott Evans. The Actor Awards are

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Speaker 3: And now it's time for conversations with industry leaders about

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Speaker 3: news and trends and show business. John Brockett has been

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Speaker 3: I'll be looking for those drop waste dresses. I love

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Speaker 3: that era. I watch Turner classic movies sometimes and just

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Speaker 3: pause to look at the fashions and also the shoes.

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Speaker 2: That's kind of part of what our approach is with

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Speaker 2: the show. That here is escapism, Like just sit back

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Speaker 2: for two hours, enjoy this three hours if you include

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Speaker 2: a red carpet show, Enjoy all the moments on the carpet,

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Speaker 2: Enjoy the moments from the show. Get away from thinking

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Speaker 2: about what's going on in the world, and just enjoy

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Speaker 2: this night of TV on Netflix Live on Netflix.

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Speaker 3: You heard it from John, all right, thank you so much.

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Speaker 2: Good luck, Thanks Cynthia. This is a pleasure.

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Speaker 3: As we close out today's episode, here's a few things

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Speaker 3: Yellowstone spin off The Marshals for CBS. I hope someone

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Speaker 3: wrote in a hat tip to one Marshall Dylan. On

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Speaker 3: the same night, CNN premieres the four part documentary Disaster

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Speaker 3: the Chernobyl Meltdown. Those of us who lived through Chernobyl

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Speaker 3: will never not be fascinated by the history of it.

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Speaker 3: Just ask Craig Mason. Also coming March first on Fox Sports,

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Speaker 3: is You See La. It's a documentary from Hello Sunshine

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Speaker 3: about the UCLA women's basketball team and the amazing run

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Speaker 3: they had last year to the final four games of

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Speaker 3: March Madness. Big WNBA Stars of the future to watch

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Speaker 3: on that squad before we go. Congrats to Debora Kaufman.

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Speaker 3: She's joined Support Studios as Chief of Global Content, overseeing

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Speaker 3: all creative development for the Tel Aviv based production company.

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Speaker 3: She comes to Suppor after more than ten years with

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Speaker 3: Legendary Entertainment, where she was Senior Vice president of Literary Affairs.

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Speaker 3: Thanks for listening. This episode was written and reported by

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Speaker 3: me Cynthia Littleton, Styx Nix Hick Picks. Please leave us

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Speaker 3: a review at the podcast platform of your choice, and

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Speaker 3: please tune in Monday for another episode of Daily Variety