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Speaker 1: Welcome to Hawks Live. It is Thursday. By weekend is over.

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Speaker 1: That means you gotta listen to me and Paul Moyer

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Speaker 1: talk all that talk once again. The Hawks coming off

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Speaker 1: a vibe. Russell Wilson seems like he's getting healthy. They're

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Speaker 1: playing the Green Bay Packers. Aaron Rodgers has some drama

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Speaker 1: this week. He has him explaining to do Paul Moyer,

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Speaker 1: but looks like he might be available for this game

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Speaker 1: on Sunday. This is a huge two game stretch. Starts

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Speaker 1: with the Packers, then you follow it up with the Cardinals.

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Speaker 1: These guys are still in the playoff hunt. They're three

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Speaker 1: and five, still in the playoff hunt, one game behind Atlanta.

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Speaker 1: This weekend was a great weekend for the Seattle Seahawks.

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Speaker 1: The Carolina Panthers lose to the Pages twenty four to

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Speaker 1: twenty six. Minnesota Vikings lose to the Baltimore Ravens thirty

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Speaker 1: four to thirty one. Atlanta beats the Saints, so they're

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Speaker 1: in the seventh spot. Everybody can relax now Russell's back.

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Speaker 1: They're still in the playoff hunt. Right we are in

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Speaker 1: the hunt. It does feel like a lifetime ago. There's

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Speaker 1: just so much going on. You know, first of all,

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Speaker 1: just for Russell to be back and able to play

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Speaker 1: this week, you know, just edible, you know, Russell being Russell, Um,

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Speaker 1: you know the whole. Aaron Rodgers the other I don't

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Speaker 1: think he needs, you know, and he now can explained

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Speaker 1: nothing to the media. And my big concern is he's

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Speaker 1: gonna be so focused to have the greatest game in

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Speaker 1: a history of his career. And he's you know, he's

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Speaker 1: been playing very well. I mean I watched that Arizona

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Speaker 1: Green Bay game and he had nobody. He had no

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Speaker 1: wide receivers. They were all out, and what a game plan.

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Speaker 1: I think they I think this guy, I think their

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Speaker 1: team is the most difficult offense, even though their twenty

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Speaker 1: second rank. You better be on your game. You got

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Speaker 1: to stop the run you got. They had these really

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Speaker 1: intricate screens too, that are quick. I mean, they're not waiting,

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Speaker 1: They're waiting to get behind you in that first wave

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Speaker 1: and they are gone. And so we're gonna have to

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Speaker 1: be on. They're gonna be the great tacklers. They've got

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Speaker 1: Davante Adams coming back. It is gonna be a battle.

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Speaker 1: And this kid, Aaron Rodgers, I guess he's still a kid.

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Speaker 1: He's you know, compared to me. I mean, he's just

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Speaker 1: he's one of the only guys I've seen that can

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Speaker 1: actually backpedal and keep retreating and throw bullet passes everywhere.

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Speaker 1: And that's what makes him so dangerous. You can have

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Speaker 1: a pretty good pass rush and he just backs up

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Speaker 1: five yards, buy some time and boom makes a throw.

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Speaker 1: You know what they do on offense too, They attack

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Speaker 1: the middle of the field, and that's where the Hawks

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Speaker 1: have been hit a lot. In the middle of the field.

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Speaker 1: Davante Adams, you know what's coming. You're gonna line him

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Speaker 1: up at the number one spot and I'm on receiver

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Speaker 1: in a trail set. They're gonna run number two and

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Speaker 1: three up the field. He's gonna slide underneath. Aaron Rodgers

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Speaker 1: isn't gonna backpedal like you describe and drop the ball

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Speaker 1: right over the top. And what about this guy, Dylan Man,

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Speaker 1: it's I mean, you got Aaron Jones in the backfield,

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Speaker 1: you combine him with Dylan, they got a good backfield

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Speaker 1: as well. The numbers might mess you up because you

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Speaker 1: look at him offensively and they don't seem like a

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Speaker 1: great office. But when you watch them. You see Adams,

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Speaker 1: you see Lazard, you see the running backs that they have,

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Speaker 1: and then Aaron Rodgers. I think that's a great point

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Speaker 1: that you brought up, is that because of the situation

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Speaker 1: he's in. Man, this guy is a perseverer right back

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Speaker 1: against the wall. Yone's gonna count him out. They're gonna fail, right,

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Speaker 1: He's gonna come out and play a really good football

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Speaker 1: game just because he wants to prove the doubt is wrong.

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Speaker 1: His head coach the first said, Look, he's been at

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Speaker 1: every meeting virtually. He's locked in. He knows the game plan. Thankfully,

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Speaker 1: he has a lot of reps. I'm I'm quoting the

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Speaker 1: good to go, So you can't one. I don't think

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Speaker 1: we ever sleep on the Green Bay Packers. The Hawks

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Speaker 1: haven't won there since nineteen ninety nine. But in this situation,

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Speaker 1: I think Aaron Rodgers is even more dangerous than he

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Speaker 1: normally is. Well, and he's they're getting healthy, and that's

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Speaker 1: what makes me nervous. I mean, you gonna watch them

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Speaker 1: last week. Look, Love's not ready. He didn't have all

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Speaker 1: the weapons either. You know that makes it tougher because

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Speaker 1: Aaron it is so good. But their offense is tough,

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Speaker 1: and the reason why they're tough they move the chains. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So it's not that they got beat thirty eight to

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Speaker 1: and everybody's gonna have me included. Yeah, Rogers, he doesn't

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Speaker 1: care about football anymore. And then they went on a

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Speaker 1: And then last week they go and play Kansas City. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: run the table since the opener. This might be the

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Speaker 1: best team in the NFL right now when they're healthy,

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Speaker 1: and we're gonna find out how good we are on Sunday.

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Speaker 1: I think we're gonna play well, it's tough, as you

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Speaker 1: mentioned going into Green Bay. We're playing much better defensively.

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Speaker 1: We'll have Russell back. Hopefully we shocked the world, but

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Speaker 1: it's gonna take a shock the world moment because I

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Speaker 1: think Green Bay's that good. So it sounds like we're

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Speaker 1: gonna have Russell back in. Geno Smith filled in for

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Speaker 1: Russell and overall sixty five of ninety five, sixty eight

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Speaker 1: percent completion rate, seven hundred and two yards, five touchdowns,

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Speaker 1: one interception. That sounds like a pretty good run for

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Speaker 1: Geno Smith. Now you look at the wins of losses

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Speaker 1: didn't work out for him, But overall, how'd you feel

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Speaker 1: about Geno stepping in for Russell? Well, I think Gino

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Speaker 1: did what we wanted him to do. Look here a backup.

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Speaker 1: You hope you can if you're out three games, you

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Speaker 1: hope you can win two or three. You hope you

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Speaker 1: have a chance to win in the fourth quarter. You

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Speaker 1: need everybody else to step up. Well, guess what he

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Speaker 1: the drive to win. MAT's just a guy who hadn't

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Speaker 1: finally got relaxed and he had a great game against

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Speaker 1: the Jags and everything. Oh it's the Jags. Well, I

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Speaker 1: guess what what did they do the next week? Thingo

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Speaker 1: be so every week. I mean, we're watching Miami right now.

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Speaker 1: You know, give the Ravens all they can have, and

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Speaker 1: this week, this league, you gotta be ready. You got

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Speaker 1: to be healthy. And that's why I would not be

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Speaker 1: surprised us going into to Green Bay playing a great

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Speaker 1: game and winning with Russell. But I also wouldn't be

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Speaker 1: surprised if I think Green Bay's really good, and you

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Speaker 1: really good on both sides of the ball. We'ren have

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Speaker 1: to play great special teams. We got to make every

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Speaker 1: big play. Those five big ones, we gotta come up

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Speaker 1: with four of them. Here's some contexts for you. Offensively,

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Speaker 1: the Packers are ranked twenty second overall, eighteenth when it

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Speaker 1: the past, twentieth when it comes to points per game.

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Speaker 1: The Seahawks twenty ninth in total offense, twenty one when

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Speaker 1: to the past. Now you flip over to the defense,

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Speaker 1: that's where the difference is. Overall, the Packers are ranked

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Speaker 1: fifth against the rush, are sixteenth against the past. There

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Speaker 1: to points allowed. I think that is where the Hawks

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Speaker 1: stay in this fight. They don't give up a lot

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Speaker 1: not in those snaps. I want to know what they're

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Speaker 1: rushing on an average, and you know that's I would

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Speaker 1: love to see the median of that as well. They're

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Speaker 1: you know, a half a yard difference. It can drop

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Speaker 1: it's not the big plays that matter. But I would

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Speaker 1: like to say, we got to control the clock and

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Speaker 1: we just can't get the ball to Aaron Rodgers. In

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Speaker 1: my opinion, we gotta control it. We gotta score when

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Speaker 1: we have those opportunities. We've got to play perfect football,

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Speaker 1: and we're capable of it. We've talked about this. We

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Speaker 1: have the talent. We did not play well the first

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Speaker 1: we just haven't had Russell. Now, we can't ignore that.

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Speaker 1: Russell Wilson is coming back from an injury. Right what

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Speaker 1: that finger he had a injury hinting that thing he said,

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Speaker 1: better than it was before, better than before. It's like

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Speaker 1: when you break a bone. Right, Hill's back stronger. I

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Speaker 1: guess it's gonna be cold out there. So we have

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Speaker 1: to see if Russell's finger came respond Because I know

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Speaker 1: gonna have a sleeveless hoodie on. He's gonna fill the weather.

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Speaker 1: He's gonna make sure he is good to go. If

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Speaker 1: there's anybody I believe in the cold, it's gonna be

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Speaker 1: Russell Wilson. All right. When we return, we will talk

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Speaker 1: to Bill Hubert from Packer Central. That is next on

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Speaker 1: Hawks Live. Hawks Live every Thursday right here on seventeen

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Speaker 1: ESPN from seven to nine. I'm Michael bump Is. I'm

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Speaker 1: with Paul Moyer. Now we get to talk to Bill,

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Speaker 1: who were from the Packers Central. Bill, what up man?

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Speaker 1: How you doing? I'm great? How about you guys? We're

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Speaker 1: doing okay. Now. I know it's been a tough week

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Speaker 1: over there in Green Bay. You got Jordan Love. You

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Speaker 1: got to see the guy that the pack has moved

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Speaker 1: up to get didn't do bad, didn't do great, the

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Speaker 1: guys who has to learn a bit. Then the Aaron

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Speaker 1: Rodgers drama, Am I vacs am I not vacs. Who cares?

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Speaker 1: What's to feel over there in Green Bay? Do the

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Speaker 1: fans feel betrayed? Are they just ready for Aaron Rodgers

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Speaker 1: to come back? What you got for me? Man, that's

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Speaker 1: a great question. I don't know. It's you know, you're

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Speaker 1: get into trouble, paying too much, too much attention to Twitter.

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Speaker 1: It's not real life. I'm fascinated um Sunday, if they

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Speaker 1: continue with the usual offense defense rotation, the offense will

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Speaker 1: be introduced, so which means Rodgers presumably will be the

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Speaker 1: see the reaction. My feeling is people feeling. If people

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Speaker 1: don't care to the extent of it, just you know,

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Speaker 1: that kind of east turn, you know, messing up, you know,

425
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Speaker 1: and so it's never a really consistent pocket. There are

426
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Speaker 1: moments where it's better, you know, like some of the

427
00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:31,240
Speaker 1: play action passed up that they create some room for

428
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Speaker 1: They created some room for Geno to throw the ball,

429
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Speaker 1: but just straight dropped back, you know. Pass and pass protection,

430
00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:40,760
Speaker 1: there's still just still not quite there, especially passing off games.

431
00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:44,160
Speaker 1: They still haven't quite you know, found that chemistry. Uh,

432
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Speaker 1: And I really do think like with they still always

433
00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:49,480
Speaker 1: have all the weapons on offense to be an effective

434
00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:53,000
Speaker 1: effective offense and the explosive you know, so to speak.

435
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Speaker 1: But this team is going to go as far as

436
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Speaker 1: the interior lines take them. Like the defensive line can

437
00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:01,760
Speaker 1: play a little bit better, get a little bit more

438
00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:04,520
Speaker 1: pressure on the quarterback, and then the offensive line can

439
00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:07,000
Speaker 1: just be cleaner. And they just haven't quite gotten there yet.

440
00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:10,240
Speaker 1: They have good football players. They don't need to go find,

441
00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:13,000
Speaker 1: you know, some other free Asian guard or tackle or whatever.

442
00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:15,520
Speaker 1: These guys seem to play up to their capabilities to

443
00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:17,280
Speaker 1: get us see offs a chance to really make a

444
00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:20,240
Speaker 1: run down the second half of the season. After we

445
00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:22,920
Speaker 1: beat the Jags thirty one seven, and we look good,

446
00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:27,080
Speaker 1: I mean, Gino, again, we executed well, we jumped on them,

447
00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:30,360
Speaker 1: and we're off thinking, oh, it's the Jags, and then

448
00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:32,520
Speaker 1: the Jags go and play Buffalo and hold them to

449
00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:36,880
Speaker 1: what six points? Yeah, So now I'm thinking, well, maybe

450
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Speaker 1: we're because we have played a tough scot do you

451
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Speaker 1: guys who played the Rams? Obviously, we've played at Pittsburgh, Tennessee, Minnesota.

452
00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:48,120
Speaker 1: These teams have turned out to be better than maybe

453
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Speaker 1: we thought at the time. So I mean, just what

454
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Speaker 1: what do you make of that? I mean, we thumped

455
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Speaker 1: the Jags, which were supposed to do they go against Buffalo.

456
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Speaker 1: You know what do you make of that? Well, you know, Paul,

457
00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:03,880
Speaker 1: like we always say this, you know a lot too,

458
00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:06,760
Speaker 1: is that you're never you're probably it's never probably as

459
00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:08,640
Speaker 1: good as you're thinking, as never as bad as you think.

460
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Speaker 1: So it's it's somewhere in between. And so I think

461
00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:16,040
Speaker 1: the game plan in and of itself was better against

462
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Speaker 1: the Jaguars. And I've seen all seasons Gino getting the ball,

463
00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:22,800
Speaker 1: you know, just kind of been uh, completion driven. You know,

464
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Speaker 1: they created some some passes for him to complete for

465
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Speaker 1: to Tyler Lockett, and you know, kind of getting the

466
00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:30,159
Speaker 1: ball out fast, not really holding the balls, not pushing

467
00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:32,280
Speaker 1: the ball down the field as much, so you're taking

468
00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:35,720
Speaker 1: these body blows before you then take the knockout shot,

469
00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:37,760
Speaker 1: you know, over the top. And I think that really

470
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Speaker 1: worked for Gino, Like does that work for Russell if

471
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Speaker 1: he plays, I'm not quite sure. And then with the

472
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Speaker 1: running game, it was the most connected I've seen the

473
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Speaker 1: running game with the with the passing game. Even though

474
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Speaker 1: there were a lot of yards they still left on

475
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Speaker 1: the field, especially in the second half in the in

476
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Speaker 1: the running game, but there was some you know, Rachard

477
00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:59,280
Speaker 1: Penny missed missed the whole a couple of different times, uh,

478
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Speaker 1: and then or times where the tight end missed the

479
00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:04,800
Speaker 1: block or maybe the right guard missed the block, but

480
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Speaker 1: you know, and there was but there was space there

481
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Speaker 1: for the running back to game yards and so I

482
00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:11,600
Speaker 1: think with the with the running game, they have to

483
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Speaker 1: take the yards that are there first, like those three

484
00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:15,879
Speaker 1: or four yards when you get good push in the middle,

485
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Speaker 1: and then try to make something happen after that. But

486
00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:21,000
Speaker 1: I thought just the overall game plan, just getting the

487
00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:24,680
Speaker 1: ball out fast, mixing the play action pass big committed

488
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Speaker 1: to the run. I think that made the difference in

489
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Speaker 1: the Jaguar game. All right, Big Ray. The Hawks miss

490
00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:31,360
Speaker 1: out on Odell Backham looks like he's going to LA

491
00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:34,600
Speaker 1: to play for the Rams. But you have Russell Wilson

492
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Speaker 1: coming back. Is that all this team needs to make

493
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Speaker 1: this run for the playoffs? They are three and five

494
00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:42,320
Speaker 1: in one spot out of that seven seed. Does Russell

495
00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:46,640
Speaker 1: coming back make things all better? Well? I mean you hope.

496
00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:50,200
Speaker 1: So you hope that Russell coming back combined with the

497
00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:53,720
Speaker 1: way they called offense against the Jaguars, you know, getting

498
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Speaker 1: the ball out Like I feel like Russell needs to

499
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Speaker 1: allow the playmakers to be playmakers, and he doesn't have

500
00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:01,720
Speaker 1: to be the playmaker. He just has to get the

501
00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:04,280
Speaker 1: ball to the guys that can make plays. And then

502
00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:06,760
Speaker 1: and then clean up the running game a little bit.

503
00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:08,760
Speaker 1: Like we're talking about the running game. You don't have

504
00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:10,639
Speaker 1: to rush for one hundred and fifty yards, but if

505
00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:13,000
Speaker 1: you can rush for eighty or ninety yards and pick

506
00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:15,080
Speaker 1: up some third downs with the running game, I think

507
00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:17,960
Speaker 1: that kind of helps the offense. You know, I think

508
00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:21,280
Speaker 1: they're all the pieces are there. If you had Obj obviously,

509
00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:23,040
Speaker 1: like you know, that's kind that would be a luxury

510
00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:24,439
Speaker 1: to have, and it would have been great to have him.

511
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Speaker 1: Great to see how they were going to work all

512
00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:29,080
Speaker 1: of that out. But they have the pieces here to

513
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Speaker 1: be an flosive offense if they can get all those

514
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Speaker 1: things working together. So you have the protection, you have

515
00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:37,320
Speaker 1: the run game, and you have the play calling, and

516
00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:39,480
Speaker 1: you have the quarterback getting the ball out, spreading ball

517
00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:42,399
Speaker 1: around looking for completions you know before you're looking for

518
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Speaker 1: the big play. I think that's the best way for

519
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Speaker 1: this offense to thrive. All right, So no Odell Beckham,

520
00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:51,720
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson's coming back. Also Dwayne Eskridge is coming back.

521
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Speaker 1: How do you see him affecting this offense? Is this

522
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Speaker 1: one of the pieces that this offense has been missing

523
00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:00,359
Speaker 1: when it comes to really opening up the playbo and

524
00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:04,399
Speaker 1: being creative. Yeah, you know the thing I'm excited to

525
00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:06,840
Speaker 1: see is, uh, we keep running the flow sweet with

526
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Speaker 1: the tight end and it's like man like we have

527
00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:11,800
Speaker 1: Freddy Swayne and now we have d Eskridge, Like why

528
00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:14,080
Speaker 1: aren't or Penny Harden was even there for me, like,

529
00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:15,960
Speaker 1: why aren't we running the fly? See with those dudes,

530
00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:18,280
Speaker 1: you know, they get to the corner a lot faster

531
00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:20,359
Speaker 1: and can do a lot more damage. So I think

532
00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:23,080
Speaker 1: that element to the run game that D. S Ritch

533
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Speaker 1: can bring and then obviously been explosive you know in

534
00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:29,280
Speaker 1: slot is that third receiver. If DK and Tyler are

535
00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:31,000
Speaker 1: pushing guys down the field and he's playing some of

536
00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:32,880
Speaker 1: the underneath stuff, you know he can you know, run

537
00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:35,400
Speaker 1: after the cash can really do some damage. So I'm

538
00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:37,720
Speaker 1: excited to see kind of what it brings. He kind

539
00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:39,399
Speaker 1: of has like this energy about it when he's on

540
00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:41,200
Speaker 1: the field that you kind of can't wait to see

541
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Speaker 1: what he's gonna do when he gets the ball in

542
00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:45,800
Speaker 1: fan So I hope they find creative ways to give

543
00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:48,000
Speaker 1: him a chance to carry the ball and have some

544
00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:50,960
Speaker 1: impact on the offense. Ray. We have not won in

545
00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:54,400
Speaker 1: Green Bay since nineteen ninety nine, first year Mike Holmgren

546
00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:58,000
Speaker 1: was here and I back when I played, Um, we're

547
00:25:58,040 --> 00:25:59,880
Speaker 1: in the AFC, so we didn't get to play green

548
00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:02,440
Speaker 1: every year, and when we did, they played half their

549
00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:05,119
Speaker 1: games in Milwaukee, half their games in Green Bay. I

550
00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:10,480
Speaker 1: never step field until in nineteen ninety nine on that

551
00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:14,679
Speaker 1: you know, in Green Bay, I was gonna throw us

552
00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:18,720
Speaker 1: frozen tundra, but it's not always frozen. But you played

553
00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:20,880
Speaker 1: in Detroit, you guys used to play there. I don't

554
00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:22,400
Speaker 1: know if you played there every year, if they were

555
00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:26,159
Speaker 1: rotating Milwaukee to Green Bay part of it? We have

556
00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:28,000
Speaker 1: it once since ninety nine. They had Brett Farve and

557
00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:30,359
Speaker 1: they've had Aaron Rodgers. That's pretty tough to do. But

558
00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:32,480
Speaker 1: what is it about playing there? I mean, can you

559
00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:35,800
Speaker 1: give us just a feel for what Lambeau Fields like

560
00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:39,240
Speaker 1: being there as an opponent? Yeah, Well, the thing that

561
00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:41,399
Speaker 1: was interesting is playing in Detroit. You know, we you know,

562
00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:43,560
Speaker 1: we played them, played them there every year and then

563
00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:45,840
Speaker 1: you know, we went home and away that way. But

564
00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:48,280
Speaker 1: we always tend to play them in the in the

565
00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:52,040
Speaker 1: winter when it's super cold up there, and teams, teams

566
00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:54,080
Speaker 1: would make more of the cold than the Green Bay

567
00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:57,600
Speaker 1: Packers would. And I can remember one year the snow

568
00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:00,840
Speaker 1: was blowing sideways in Detroit and the coach you know,

569
00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:03,640
Speaker 1: had a practicing outside and you, I mean, you had

570
00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:05,640
Speaker 1: everything on your face trying to keep the snow from

571
00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:07,879
Speaker 1: it felt like it was cutting your face. And we

572
00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:10,520
Speaker 1: went to green Bay and Uh, I'd go out like

573
00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:12,160
Speaker 1: three or four hours before the game. I'm just kind

574
00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:13,879
Speaker 1: of running around and Brett Farb was like, Hey, I

575
00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:16,400
Speaker 1: heard you guys. We're practicing outside, and I'm like, yeah,

576
00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:18,359
Speaker 1: he goes, Dude, we don't practice outside with his cold.

577
00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:21,480
Speaker 1: We go inside to our indoor practice facility. Like the

578
00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:23,159
Speaker 1: cold is. It's just as cold to us too. We

579
00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:25,720
Speaker 1: just don't. We just don't spend so much time worried

580
00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:28,640
Speaker 1: about it and other teams do. And so I think

581
00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:30,800
Speaker 1: some of that comes into play when it's a weather

582
00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:33,159
Speaker 1: and then the other part of it is, um, you know,

583
00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:35,760
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's a mystique because that stadium

584
00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:38,360
Speaker 1: or whatever, but we never played good football in that stadium.

585
00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:41,280
Speaker 1: We the six years I was in Detroit. We never

586
00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:42,840
Speaker 1: beat him in Green Bay, but we beat him a

587
00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:46,200
Speaker 1: couple of times in Detroit, and a couple of times

588
00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:48,040
Speaker 1: we had to lead at halftime and they just came

589
00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:49,760
Speaker 1: back on one. But you know, they did have Brett Farb,

590
00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:52,240
Speaker 1: like you said. But it's just something about the mystique

591
00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:54,960
Speaker 1: of that stadium sometimes that kind of uh, you know,

592
00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:57,120
Speaker 1: I think get some of the guys that they haven't

593
00:27:57,160 --> 00:27:58,960
Speaker 1: been there much, you know, and they're thinking about it,

594
00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:01,119
Speaker 1: talking about it, airing a about it. H and then

595
00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:04,320
Speaker 1: maybe sometimes that impacts, you know when when those crunch

596
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:07,359
Speaker 1: moments come, your ability to step up and make a play.

597
00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:11,320
Speaker 1: Fifty percent chance of snow and Green Bay Sunday low

598
00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:13,639
Speaker 1: of twenty six, high of thirty nine and ray just

599
00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:16,520
Speaker 1: for you as we let you go. Um it says

600
00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:20,679
Speaker 1: watch for flood warnings or flood warnings around the rivers

601
00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:26,919
Speaker 1: for anybody hiking out there, be careful. I really do

602
00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:29,080
Speaker 1: appreciate it. The thing that was funny is as I

603
00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:32,360
Speaker 1: was out there walking, the whole time I was thinking, man,

604
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Speaker 1: if I told you guys, I might here walking like

605
00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:37,320
Speaker 1: I decided to go for a walk as they're telling

606
00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:39,600
Speaker 1: us it's gonna be just pouring rain, And for some

607
00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:42,880
Speaker 1: reason I justified it in my brain somehow that this

608
00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:44,440
Speaker 1: is a this is the perfect day to go out

609
00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:47,000
Speaker 1: for this walk. And the whole time I was just thinking, like, man,

610
00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:48,560
Speaker 1: I wonder what the guys are gonna say when I

611
00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:51,200
Speaker 1: tell him I went for this walk out in the rain.

612
00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:53,680
Speaker 1: And but it was it was good. It was good

613
00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:56,080
Speaker 1: to be out there. I got soaking wet, cold as

614
00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:58,160
Speaker 1: all get out, got lost a couple of times, but

615
00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:00,320
Speaker 1: uh but made my way back to my car, was

616
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:02,160
Speaker 1: able to make it home. There you go. Just remember

617
00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:05,120
Speaker 1: the sun sets in the west, Ray, just head towards

618
00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:07,520
Speaker 1: the sun and you will make your way home and

619
00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:10,040
Speaker 1: big home. He appreciate you taking time out of the night. Man.

620
00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:14,040
Speaker 1: It is Thursday, so that means you're either watching Thursday

621
00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:18,040
Speaker 1: Night Fullball as the Dolphins get on the board, or

622
00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:21,640
Speaker 1: you're listening to myself and Paul Moyer. Well, right now,

623
00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:23,240
Speaker 1: it's my favorite part of the show. It's time to

624
00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:28,320
Speaker 1: talk that talk. It's time to talk that talk with

625
00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:34,680
Speaker 1: Michael Bumpus and Paul Moyer on Hawks Live. Time to

626
00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:37,120
Speaker 1: talk that talk. I'll tell you one thing. These Dolphins

627
00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:39,560
Speaker 1: will put up a fight against Baltimore Ravens right now.

628
00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:43,000
Speaker 1: You're a playoff team last year. Yeah, with a good defense,

629
00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:45,600
Speaker 1: and I know they're horrible coming into this game. But

630
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:49,520
Speaker 1: there are no great teams, particularly in the AFC. No,

631
00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:52,440
Speaker 1: there aren't. Okay, let's get back to what we're supposed

632
00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:55,600
Speaker 1: to do. Moyer, my question for you, the Seahawks will

633
00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:57,840
Speaker 1: be a top ten offense the rest of the way.

634
00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:01,040
Speaker 1: With Russell Wilson under center. The rest of the way,

635
00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:03,040
Speaker 1: the rest of the way, because right now they are

636
00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:10,360
Speaker 1: twenty ninth in offense. Shocking. I'm shocked. We're thirty first

637
00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:13,200
Speaker 1: in defense. And again I don't get into statistics. You

638
00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:16,120
Speaker 1: do you just say that twenty ninth, I said, I'm shocked. Well,

639
00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:18,240
Speaker 1: what I mean by I don't get I don't look

640
00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:20,520
Speaker 1: at a team and go statistically, oh my god, we

641
00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:23,360
Speaker 1: can't win or whatever. I look at quarters. Are we

642
00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:28,400
Speaker 1: progressing in the right way? I'm gonna say no. And

643
00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:30,920
Speaker 1: I think it has to do with more the teams

644
00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:34,600
Speaker 1: were playing. We play Green Bay, Green Bays are good,

645
00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:37,120
Speaker 1: a good defense. We got Arizona, We're gonna have to

646
00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:39,480
Speaker 1: play twice. They have a good defense. We still got

647
00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:43,120
Speaker 1: the Rams. We got a lot of top ten defenses

648
00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:45,320
Speaker 1: that we've got to play. We got the forty nine

649
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:48,440
Speaker 1: ers again that always plays stuff. They're getting healthy. So

650
00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:50,440
Speaker 1: I think it has to do more at the competition

651
00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:54,920
Speaker 1: than it does to do with our our offense. I mean,

652
00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:58,320
Speaker 1: I think we'll be productive and we'll score. I just

653
00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:01,520
Speaker 1: think being in the top ten it'd be tough. You know,

654
00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:03,720
Speaker 1: I'm gonna agree with you. There's nothing that this team

655
00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:05,960
Speaker 1: has done that says they're a top ten offense. They've

656
00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:09,000
Speaker 1: had their moments, but they have them put together really

657
00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:11,400
Speaker 1: good games since what the Colts. Maybe that first game

658
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:14,200
Speaker 1: when they won twenty eight to sixteen. They put up

659
00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:16,800
Speaker 1: thirty points against the Titans, but that was the tale

660
00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:18,640
Speaker 1: of two halves getting the first half bad in the

661
00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:22,200
Speaker 1: second half. Russell Wilson under center. Top ten. No, will

662
00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:25,320
Speaker 1: they be middle of the pack. Possibly, I think that's

663
00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:27,640
Speaker 1: probably your aiming point. But that's gonna be good enough

664
00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:30,160
Speaker 1: to win if your defense continues to play like they've

665
00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:32,840
Speaker 1: been playing the last couple of games. Right they play

666
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:35,680
Speaker 1: against the Jaguar seven points the Saints, I want to

667
00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:39,480
Speaker 1: give up thirteen points the Steelers three hundred yards of offense.

668
00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:42,320
Speaker 1: I think that's the key right there. This offense will

669
00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:45,480
Speaker 1: be middle of the road, but I think this defense

670
00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:47,720
Speaker 1: will allow them to stay in the fight and win

671
00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:49,840
Speaker 1: some ball games. And that's really what it's about. It's

672
00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:52,840
Speaker 1: about winning the games. It's not being in the top ten.

673
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:56,360
Speaker 1: I mean, those are yeah, things you strive for. You

674
00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:59,840
Speaker 1: want that success. But I mean, should we both say no,

675
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:03,760
Speaker 1: We do have an important game on Sunday. It's important,

676
00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:08,560
Speaker 1: critically important. It's It's the fifth must win game of

677
00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:14,000
Speaker 1: the season, with the win on Sunday, which we haven't

678
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:17,719
Speaker 1: done since nineteen ninety nine in Green Bay, lambeau Field.

679
00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:21,720
Speaker 1: The Seahawks, if they win this Sunday, will definitely make

680
00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:26,400
Speaker 1: the playoffs negative more just fat negative. More work ahead.

681
00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:28,680
Speaker 1: You gotta beat the Package. You gotta beat the Cardinals twice.

682
00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:30,440
Speaker 1: You still played the forty nine ers, the rounds, pick

683
00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:33,000
Speaker 1: up Odell Beckham. You do play the Texans, the Bears,

684
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:35,320
Speaker 1: and the Lions games that you expect to win. There's

685
00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:38,160
Speaker 1: just too much ahead to say, Okay, they win this game,

686
00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:40,520
Speaker 1: then it's all good. We've seen the injuries that this

687
00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:43,840
Speaker 1: team has gone through, right, Russell Wilson missed the first

688
00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:47,760
Speaker 1: few games of his career. You got a banged up backfield.

689
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:50,920
Speaker 1: You want to see if this defense can call some takeaways.

690
00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:53,560
Speaker 1: Only three interceptions on this defense. I look at this

691
00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:55,880
Speaker 1: schedule and I'm like, yeah, if they win this game,

692
00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:58,440
Speaker 1: the chances look a bit better. But you still got

693
00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:01,160
Speaker 1: to play the Cardinals twice, still got to play the Rams.

694
00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:03,800
Speaker 1: They got a new new weapon over there. I No,

695
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:07,880
Speaker 1: I don't think so. I'm gonna say yes, okay, and

696
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:11,040
Speaker 1: it has to do with more. It gets this two

697
00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:13,000
Speaker 1: wins in a row, feel like we're on a roll.

698
00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:16,479
Speaker 1: At that point, we do get Arizona at home. Um

699
00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:19,520
Speaker 1: you know they they they may you know, just watching

700
00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:22,920
Speaker 1: them lose to Green Bay, I got a feeling there

701
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:27,280
Speaker 1: may be h some copycat stuff there that we can

702
00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:30,760
Speaker 1: get after them on their offense. So that's one. But

703
00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:33,480
Speaker 1: here's why I think that they we win Sunday, we

704
00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:37,600
Speaker 1: make the playoffs. Okay, minute, excuse me. The Atlanta Falcons

705
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:40,960
Speaker 1: are sitting in the last playoffs spot at four and four.

706
00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:46,440
Speaker 1: We're three and five. We're a game back of Atlanta. Atlanta,

707
00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:50,920
Speaker 1: thank you. Next is the Carolina Panthers. They're four and five.

708
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:53,480
Speaker 1: They don't have a quarterback. They do, they got cam

709
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:57,120
Speaker 1: as I said, they don't have a quarterback. And then

710
00:33:57,200 --> 00:33:59,840
Speaker 1: you've got the Minnesota Vikings at three and five. We're

711
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:02,280
Speaker 1: hide with them. They got the tiebreaker on us. You

712
00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:04,640
Speaker 1: get my point here, get your point. We don't have

713
00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:07,440
Speaker 1: to be crazy. I think ten and seven gets a

714
00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:11,920
Speaker 1: sin ten and seven, and it's possible nine and eight

715
00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:15,360
Speaker 1: gets you in. I don't like the tiebreaker thing with Minnesota,

716
00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:18,239
Speaker 1: but I think we catch Atlanta. I think there's chance

717
00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:20,800
Speaker 1: we catch New Orleans because they don't have a quarterback.

718
00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:22,799
Speaker 1: There's a lot of teams ahead of us that are

719
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:25,879
Speaker 1: not very good football. So it's not really about what

720
00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:27,920
Speaker 1: the Hawks do. They have to win ball got to

721
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:31,480
Speaker 1: be competitive. But you're looking you're basing off of the

722
00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:33,919
Speaker 1: guys that are competing for that seventh spot. You see

723
00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:36,759
Speaker 1: these guys dropping some games and keeping the Hawks in it.

724
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:38,640
Speaker 1: So the Hawks in a FOURD to lose what were

725
00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:41,280
Speaker 1: he's saying two or three games right now? Oh no,

726
00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:46,600
Speaker 1: they can lose. I think two max. Um, there's possible

727
00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:48,920
Speaker 1: they could lose nine and eight at such a weird

728
00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:51,719
Speaker 1: number now seventeen, but ninety eight has a chance. And

729
00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:53,960
Speaker 1: I'm just because of the teams in front of us. Yeah,

730
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:56,520
Speaker 1: matter of fact, I think our biggest threat is San Francisco,

731
00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:59,560
Speaker 1: who were tied with a three and five? Are they Yeah,

732
00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:01,879
Speaker 1: they're three and five. Um. I think the teams who

733
00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:04,000
Speaker 1: are ahead of us in that last playoff spot, I

734
00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:06,640
Speaker 1: think we're gonna catch him. Okay, I like that. I

735
00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:10,640
Speaker 1: like that all right. Quandre Diggs is the Seahawks defensive

736
00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:15,880
Speaker 1: MVP through the first eight games, no question, not even close.

737
00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:18,800
Speaker 1: He's been the most consistent guy. He's the one who's

738
00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:23,040
Speaker 1: created some turnovers, He's had big hits. He's to me,

739
00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:28,839
Speaker 1: he's kept things calm for us. Uh yeah, now he's

740
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:32,440
Speaker 1: he's been fantastic. And look we got two good safety

741
00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:35,520
Speaker 1: Jamal is starting to play better. Um, you know after

742
00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:37,920
Speaker 1: I think he's not pressing as much. Now, just go play.

743
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:40,239
Speaker 1: You don't have to have interceptions and sacks all the time.

744
00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:42,760
Speaker 1: You can. You know, there's still a game about stopping

745
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:45,320
Speaker 1: the other team on third down in a running situation.

746
00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:48,920
Speaker 1: So you know, I feel pretty good about the secondary.

747
00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:53,320
Speaker 1: I definitely feel great about Diggs though. Yeah, I agree

748
00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:56,520
Speaker 1: with you. Even though Bobby Wagner leads the league, not

749
00:35:56,680 --> 00:36:00,160
Speaker 1: just the team, the league in tackles, you gotta go

750
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:03,719
Speaker 1: with Quandre Diggs. I mean, he's the most solid player. Now,

751
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:05,799
Speaker 1: Bobby makes a lot of tackles. What people don't see

752
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:07,680
Speaker 1: what tackles like. Sometimes you'll make the tackle like eight

753
00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:10,000
Speaker 1: yards down the field, No knock on Bobby, but that

754
00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:13,400
Speaker 1: still counts as a tackle. But if a safety gets

755
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:16,919
Speaker 1: beat deep or you know, he lets some money gets

756
00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:19,840
Speaker 1: behind him, it's amplified. And there's not one time Morier

757
00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:21,920
Speaker 1: that I watched the game and I'm like, what was

758
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:24,520
Speaker 1: Quandre doing? Why is he where he's supposed to be.

759
00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:27,080
Speaker 1: I mean, I've seen this guy fly down hill in

760
00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:29,280
Speaker 1: the middle field and make tackles that he's not supposed

761
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:31,719
Speaker 1: to make. So I'm with you right there, man. I

762
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:36,320
Speaker 1: think Quandre Diggs is the best or the defensive MVP

763
00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:39,680
Speaker 1: for the Hawks so far. Yeah. And you know, sometimes

764
00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:43,400
Speaker 1: you mentioned something I thought was pretty interesting. It's not

765
00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:49,000
Speaker 1: just about statistics. It's about putting on the film and saying, oh,

766
00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:52,239
Speaker 1: look at that guy. Yeah, and Diggs I put on

767
00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:53,919
Speaker 1: the film and I go, oh, look at that guy.

768
00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:58,240
Speaker 1: He's one for sure. To me, I look even Jamal

769
00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:01,880
Speaker 1: at when I watch him on film, his energy and explosiveness.

770
00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:04,839
Speaker 1: I go, oh, No, I don't know about the other

771
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:06,799
Speaker 1: games that he's playing. I'm just talking about the one

772
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:10,359
Speaker 1: game I'm watching at that time. Yea. And to me,

773
00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:13,920
Speaker 1: it's it's Digs for sure. All right, I think we

774
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:16,759
Speaker 1: got time for one more. All right, Okay, who was

775
00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:20,759
Speaker 1: more likely to return? Chris Carson ad Eskers. I feel

776
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:23,279
Speaker 1: like we already well probably know the answer that for

777
00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:26,879
Speaker 1: this game. Yeah, for this game. Yeah. So I think

778
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:30,840
Speaker 1: they're both questionable for sure, right, Yeah, Carson still and

779
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:34,040
Speaker 1: I r if I'm not mistaken, So we don't they

780
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:36,240
Speaker 1: don't even have to talk about him, and the injury

781
00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:41,160
Speaker 1: reports are nothing at this point. Eskridge, the concussion is

782
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:43,880
Speaker 1: worrisome to me because it's been so long. I mean

783
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:45,560
Speaker 1: he went out with the first game, after the first

784
00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:48,400
Speaker 1: game of the year against Indianapolis and we saw a

785
00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:51,439
Speaker 1: bright spot there. My concern for Carsons, I'm not sure

786
00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:53,480
Speaker 1: what it is, but I retired with a neck injury,

787
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:56,640
Speaker 1: and I remember them coming up to me and saying, hey,

788
00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:59,480
Speaker 1: you can have surgery on this. We can do some stuff.

789
00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:03,120
Speaker 1: You can, they'll play you know, I was later in

790
00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:05,719
Speaker 1: my career. They all said, but I wouldn't do it.

791
00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:07,960
Speaker 1: You know, it's not worth it. When you're younger, it

792
00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:10,200
Speaker 1: might be worth it. So I don't know it's is

793
00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:13,960
Speaker 1: exact injury, but that thing has to be spot on,

794
00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:15,839
Speaker 1: and I don't know where we are, So I think

795
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:18,600
Speaker 1: d Eskridge will be the first one on to feel.

796
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:21,959
Speaker 1: Between those two. Yeah, I would say Eskridge as well,

797
00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:26,640
Speaker 1: because what you describe Chris Carson, what did Tyson say?

798
00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:30,799
Speaker 1: Spinal They don't mess no, it don't mess with it.

799
00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:33,000
Speaker 1: You know, you don't want to mess with a head either.

800
00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:38,000
Speaker 1: But time heals the brain, right, I mean the neck

801
00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:41,279
Speaker 1: if it's a herniated disc or there's some type of

802
00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:44,920
Speaker 1: narrowing in there. Time doesn't necessarily heal that. No, it doesn't.

803
00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:46,560
Speaker 1: I think we're in agreement. We agree too much on

804
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:48,160
Speaker 1: this one. More I don't like it. Well, you know what,

805
00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:51,160
Speaker 1: then we'll just have a split decision, and actually this

806
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:53,360
Speaker 1: will be a draw a draw. Yeah, all right, but

807
00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:57,360
Speaker 1: since I'm the defending champ, it says roll the tape,

808
00:38:57,640 --> 00:39:00,799
Speaker 1: roll the tape, all right? When't return, we will go

809
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:03,960
Speaker 1: inside the film whom we'll break down Quandre Diggs interception,

810
00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:07,160
Speaker 1: Geno Smith finds DK for a touchdown, and Travis Homer

811
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:09,600
Speaker 1: forty four yard kick off return. That is next right

812
00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:13,560
Speaker 1: here on Hawks Live, Hawks Alive, every Thursday, seven to nine.

813
00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:16,840
Speaker 1: If you're watching this Thursday night game, the Miami Dolphins

814
00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:19,440
Speaker 1: are up fifteen to three with eight minutes left in

815
00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:22,959
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter. Looks like an upset is brewing. Palm more,

816
00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:26,800
Speaker 1: no great teams out there. Tennessee's at seven and two. Yeah,

817
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:29,760
Speaker 1: I mean that's the best record in the AFC. Again,

818
00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:34,720
Speaker 1: I'm I probably shouldn't say shocked. Anymore because it's the NFL.

819
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:37,080
Speaker 1: Anybody can beat anybody. We saw that last week the

820
00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:40,080
Speaker 1: Jags beating Buffalo after getting throbbed by US thirty one

821
00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:42,759
Speaker 1: to seven, and we weren't playing well going into that.

822
00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:45,440
Speaker 1: Now you have, you know, Miami, who's been one of

823
00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:48,839
Speaker 1: the worst teams in the NFL this year, beating you

824
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:51,520
Speaker 1: know what most think, you know, one of the top

825
00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:55,080
Speaker 1: three teams in Baltimore. But it's the NFL, man, you

826
00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:58,839
Speaker 1: better come to play every single week. Anybody can get

827
00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:00,839
Speaker 1: it in the NFL. You know who got it last

828
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:03,960
Speaker 1: week was at Jacks, came to Loumfield and these Hawks

829
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:06,440
Speaker 1: got are done. Let's go into the film room and

830
00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:10,000
Speaker 1: break things down. The first play we're gonna break down

831
00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:13,440
Speaker 1: Quandre Diggs intercept Trevor Lawrence in the second quarter. Lawrence

832
00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:16,799
Speaker 1: drops back, look, Cox's arm throws deep Baul It's gonna

833
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:19,520
Speaker 1: be pickoff. Digs at the twenty yard line at the

834
00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:24,239
Speaker 1: twenty five knocked out about as I'm not sure who

835
00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:26,839
Speaker 1: he was throwing too. He had two receivers, one deep

836
00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:30,080
Speaker 1: and one underneath, and the ball went right between them two.

837
00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:33,000
Speaker 1: Diggs and the Seahawks have a takeaway and Diggs has

838
00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:37,919
Speaker 1: his third interception of good season. Did you see, Paul, Yeah,

839
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:40,279
Speaker 1: I mean I wish we played a little bit more

840
00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:42,640
Speaker 1: of this, and we just we man up across the

841
00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:46,000
Speaker 1: board on this one. We have a form of a

842
00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:48,440
Speaker 1: bare front or a five man front on this, so

843
00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:52,440
Speaker 1: we're playing all man. No one's in the middle of

844
00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:54,560
Speaker 1: the field. But we do have a deep free safety

845
00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:58,319
Speaker 1: and that's Digs in this one. And again we're just

846
00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:00,719
Speaker 1: playing man up and that thing I love about that

847
00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:03,040
Speaker 1: all you have to do is play tight for the

848
00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:06,719
Speaker 1: first ten fifteen yards and after that, man the quarterback's

849
00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:09,000
Speaker 1: got to make a decision. You know, do I climb

850
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:11,560
Speaker 1: in the pocket, do I come off the guy that

851
00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:15,040
Speaker 1: was my intended receiver? Do I try and throw it away?

852
00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:17,359
Speaker 1: You know, if he's got time, then it becomes more

853
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:20,120
Speaker 1: of an issue. But in this particular case, we got

854
00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:24,000
Speaker 1: pretty good pass rush. Diggs makes an unbelievable play on this.

855
00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:25,840
Speaker 1: I mean, he reads the route and it's just a

856
00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:29,560
Speaker 1: deep cross, a deep flag route the other side of

857
00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:32,560
Speaker 1: the field coming from the slot, and he kind of

858
00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:35,640
Speaker 1: undercuts it probably twenty five thirty yards downfield, makes a

859
00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:37,799
Speaker 1: really good play on it. And I would say this

860
00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:40,480
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers probably doesn't make this throw, but it's still

861
00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:43,560
Speaker 1: a really good interception. Yeah, great interception. What I like

862
00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:46,319
Speaker 1: about Diggs here is the hips. Right. He opens up

863
00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:49,680
Speaker 1: towards the west of the stadium if you're familiar with

864
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:52,400
Speaker 1: Seahawks Stadium. Then he flips it back over to the

865
00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:55,719
Speaker 1: east once the receiver makes that kind of post move.

866
00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:57,960
Speaker 1: And then now he's in such great position, I can

867
00:41:57,960 --> 00:41:59,840
Speaker 1: get my miles on the quarterback. Now, let's see what

868
00:41:59,840 --> 00:42:02,080
Speaker 1: he's doing. There's only so many things this receiver is

869
00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:03,719
Speaker 1: gonna do in the middle of the field, going or

870
00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:06,200
Speaker 1: cross that deep down the field. He's not going to

871
00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:08,040
Speaker 1: stop and try to go the other way. This is

872
00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:10,799
Speaker 1: a savvy safety right here, saying all right, let's give

873
00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:13,680
Speaker 1: my eyes back on the quarterback. Not a great throat,

874
00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:16,479
Speaker 1: but because he's in great position, he can make that play.

875
00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:19,200
Speaker 1: And I believe that as Trey Brown in the slot

876
00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:23,000
Speaker 1: guarding this young man, and he's beat, he's but he's

877
00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:27,040
Speaker 1: not beat the first ten yards he and I think

878
00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:29,120
Speaker 1: he feels maybe I'm gonna get help on this. This

879
00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:31,279
Speaker 1: to me is more of a zone route than a

880
00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:33,239
Speaker 1: man and man route because this takes a long time

881
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:36,359
Speaker 1: and usually in a zone, you'll you can hit this

882
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:38,640
Speaker 1: thing quicker, and if you have more time, you can

883
00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:41,000
Speaker 1: let that thing develop even more. When you're in man,

884
00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:42,960
Speaker 1: I got someone covering him, right, so I have to

885
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:44,960
Speaker 1: wait for that thing to develop. Well, I got five

886
00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:48,919
Speaker 1: guys coming after you in this situation. But yeah, you're right.

887
00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:52,000
Speaker 1: I mean he's beat. But again, it's a good play.

888
00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:54,840
Speaker 1: I personally I like to Now you're putting pressure on

889
00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:58,040
Speaker 1: the other team to make decisions, quick decisions. Again, I

890
00:42:58,040 --> 00:42:59,600
Speaker 1: wish we played a little more of that. We don't

891
00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:02,319
Speaker 1: play it to me. That's what man will do to you. Okay,

892
00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:06,120
Speaker 1: next play, Geno Smith finds DK Metcalf for sixteen yard touchdown.

893
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:09,920
Speaker 1: Shotgun formation play, fake looks far inside throws, puts them

894
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:13,640
Speaker 1: all up, preaching up, making a catch DKA man job

895
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:20,560
Speaker 1: touchdown Shawks d K. I believe it was over shack

896
00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:25,440
Speaker 1: Griffin from sixteen yards. Geno Smith is perfect here in

897
00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:28,120
Speaker 1: this first half today. Here's the thing about this It

898
00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:30,600
Speaker 1: catch the Jaguars and man, they're in a three by

899
00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:33,719
Speaker 1: one set. You got decat the number one spot outside.

900
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:35,759
Speaker 1: You gotta locket at the number two. When Freddie Swain

901
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:38,080
Speaker 1: inside at the number three spot. If you look at

902
00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:40,359
Speaker 1: the way the number two and number three receivers run

903
00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:42,600
Speaker 1: this route, it's almost like they know they're not getting

904
00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:45,120
Speaker 1: this football. They're like, look, we're just here to occupy guys,

905
00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:49,400
Speaker 1: occupy space. We're going to DK here. Freddie Swain runs

906
00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:52,640
Speaker 1: the whip route, the locket runs the bubble, and DC

907
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:55,440
Speaker 1: does a great job with his release. He's patient, he

908
00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:58,439
Speaker 1: gets on the defender's toes, gives him an inside move,

909
00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:02,040
Speaker 1: gets outsidely space on the sideline, and I think what's

910
00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:05,200
Speaker 1: more impressive is actually the throw by Gino Smith rather

911
00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:07,960
Speaker 1: than the catch. I think that Geno Smith put this

912
00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:11,440
Speaker 1: ball on the back shoulder high to your six three

913
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:13,960
Speaker 1: six four receiver and there's nothing Shack Griffic can du

914
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:15,920
Speaker 1: about it. He's in good positions. Shaq is right on

915
00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:18,040
Speaker 1: the hip. But if you put the football in a

916
00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:21,080
Speaker 1: perfect spot like Gino did, this is what happened. This

917
00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:25,480
Speaker 1: shows me a offense that understands, like you line up

918
00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:27,440
Speaker 1: as a receiver. You can line up, you hear the

919
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:29,360
Speaker 1: play call, and you know if you're getting this football

920
00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:31,080
Speaker 1: or not. You're like, okay, now what's my job. I'm

921
00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:33,399
Speaker 1: not getting this football. LOC's like okay, I gotta pull

922
00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:35,239
Speaker 1: this defender. Swain's like, all right, I'm gonna go to

923
00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:37,200
Speaker 1: the middle the field. They all know it's going to

924
00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:40,880
Speaker 1: DK Metcalf. Great understanding by the offense not being selfish.

925
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:43,160
Speaker 1: Maybe they maybe they did feel selfish inside. We're not

926
00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:46,480
Speaker 1: gonna see that. But Geno, those are good football. Yeah,

927
00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:50,160
Speaker 1: there's really nobody open. And again I think this designed

928
00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:53,759
Speaker 1: purely for DK Metcalf, which impressive about his releases. This

929
00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:57,200
Speaker 1: corner is determined not to let him outside. They're they're

930
00:44:57,239 --> 00:45:00,439
Speaker 1: trying to force him inside to the safety. He does

931
00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:03,440
Speaker 1: such a nice job of selling I'm going to go inside.

932
00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:07,000
Speaker 1: The guy opens up, just opens up to the inside.

933
00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:10,080
Speaker 1: So I'll just say he opens up to the inside

934
00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:13,239
Speaker 1: the corner at that point, and that's when Dk, at

935
00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:15,919
Speaker 1: that point, you know, crosses his hips and now it's

936
00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:19,840
Speaker 1: basically a fade route, but it's a back shoulder fade route.

937
00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:23,040
Speaker 1: And I think it's a great throw, it's a great catch.

938
00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:29,120
Speaker 1: I would tell coach Waldron send sway towards the free safety. Now, yeah,

939
00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:33,120
Speaker 1: you've got to occupy him because if the guy truly

940
00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:36,640
Speaker 1: cut him off, then you still have a play inside

941
00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:40,799
Speaker 1: that you can screen that corner with DK size. You

942
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:42,839
Speaker 1: just don't want to do that with the safety coming over,

943
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:45,359
Speaker 1: and I promise you that safety saying I'm eyeballing one

944
00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:47,759
Speaker 1: of those two going deep, so I would have just

945
00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:52,240
Speaker 1: cleared him out, you know, just to just hey, free safety,

946
00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:54,880
Speaker 1: I'm here. That's all. It's all it takes. So Coach Waldron,

947
00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:57,920
Speaker 1: if you're listening, just for you, Hey, there you go, Waldron.

948
00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:00,399
Speaker 1: I'm sure he's listening seven to nine thursdays. Right He's

949
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:02,480
Speaker 1: where he's at. He's working on the red zone. Right now,

950
00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:04,799
Speaker 1: he's listening. I got you, Buddy's the red zone play.

951
00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:07,239
Speaker 1: Red zone play. You heard it here from Moawyer. Next

952
00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:10,480
Speaker 1: play Travis Homer forty four yard kickoff return touchdown. Here

953
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:12,560
Speaker 1: we go the on side kick again right and kicks

954
00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:15,160
Speaker 1: it right to Homer, who picks it up on the

955
00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:17,280
Speaker 1: run and he's all the way down to the twenty

956
00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:22,960
Speaker 1: to ten touchdown, says Travis Homer gets it right back.

957
00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:26,840
Speaker 1: Urban Meyer might think twice before he practices on side

958
00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:30,880
Speaker 1: kicks again. As Homer just picks that ball up. He

959
00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:33,600
Speaker 1: was on the front line. It bounds right to him.

960
00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:37,200
Speaker 1: He ran right between two defenders and alt ran the

961
00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:40,719
Speaker 1: Jags to the end zone and Seattle extends its lead

962
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:45,080
Speaker 1: to thirty to seven. All right, before we break this down, Moyer,

963
00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:50,279
Speaker 1: there ain't nothing to break down. This is the hands team. Yes,

964
00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:53,200
Speaker 1: were you on the hands team? I was? Okay, were

965
00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:55,360
Speaker 1: you in the hotspot? But are you you're the banker? Was?

966
00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:58,960
Speaker 1: I was on the right side. So it really depends, right,

967
00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:01,480
Speaker 1: and so some kick, I mean you didn't you don't know?

968
00:47:01,640 --> 00:47:03,080
Speaker 1: You know? I mean some kickers want to go there

969
00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:05,160
Speaker 1: left something that I want to go there? Right, I was.

970
00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:07,160
Speaker 1: I was on the end, so I was definitely the

971
00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:10,600
Speaker 1: one to get the ball. I dreamed about this. I

972
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:13,080
Speaker 1: dream because I always say, if I get the right hop,

973
00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:15,800
Speaker 1: I'm I'm going to the house. But we had a coach.

974
00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:18,200
Speaker 1: I always said, hey, you get down on the ball,

975
00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:21,520
Speaker 1: you get down on this. We don't do that, but

976
00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:24,760
Speaker 1: but if we did, he always gave you an out

977
00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:27,560
Speaker 1: that said, but if you do and you take it

978
00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:31,000
Speaker 1: to the house, nice job. If you do try to

979
00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:34,799
Speaker 1: and you fumble it, you're wrong. So he gave you

980
00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:38,040
Speaker 1: the ability to make a play, but understand, you better

981
00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:40,640
Speaker 1: secure that ball. That's first and foremost. So that's a

982
00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:43,640
Speaker 1: dream that doesn't happen very often. It was weird because

983
00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:45,719
Speaker 1: on this play, I'm, you know, not much to describe me.

984
00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:50,319
Speaker 1: They try an onside kick um Travis and this he

985
00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:53,040
Speaker 1: gets the ball, he starts to go down and it

986
00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:56,120
Speaker 1: kind of splits the two guys who should have tackled him,

987
00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:59,040
Speaker 1: and instead of going down, he goes, well, I don't

988
00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:01,520
Speaker 1: need to go down, and then from there it was

989
00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:04,600
Speaker 1: I'm scorn. Yeah, he had some jets there. I mean,

990
00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:07,400
Speaker 1: that was that was pretty impressive. I honestly didn't understand it.

991
00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:09,120
Speaker 1: What was I probably under a minute left in a

992
00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:11,080
Speaker 1: game at that point, and it was their second time

993
00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:13,960
Speaker 1: doing it, right, because they tried it once and uh,

994
00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:17,040
Speaker 1: something happened. I'm not sure exactly what happened. Yeah, I

995
00:48:17,080 --> 00:48:19,040
Speaker 1: don't remember too. I think there's a timeout on the

996
00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:21,319
Speaker 1: player or something like that. Okay, so they tried it once.

997
00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:23,600
Speaker 1: When we heard Travis Homer describe it after the game,

998
00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:25,160
Speaker 1: and like all, he tried it once and I kind

999
00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:27,279
Speaker 1: of saw a crease there. They did it again. I

1000
00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:30,319
Speaker 1: got the football. I am gone. Good for Travis Homer, man,

1001
00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:32,319
Speaker 1: he needs some success. He's kind of like the guy

1002
00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:36,120
Speaker 1: that people forget about. The reason why I like how

1003
00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:38,919
Speaker 1: we ended this one with special teams. We gotta start

1004
00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:41,719
Speaker 1: winning on special teams. We're not good enough yet not

1005
00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:45,040
Speaker 1: to win with special teams. And uh, we've done some

1006
00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:47,400
Speaker 1: really good things, but we've lost a cut with me,

1007
00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:50,080
Speaker 1: we've lost one game because of special teams, which he

1008
00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:53,480
Speaker 1: can never lose one. Gotta win three. Yeah, so they

1009
00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:57,799
Speaker 1: owe us three. Yep, myers, we're talking to you, baby.

1010
00:48:57,920 --> 00:49:01,160
Speaker 1: Let's go give me returns to be kicking, to be putting.

1011
00:49:01,239 --> 00:49:03,919
Speaker 1: They could be fuel position. That was the first game

1012
00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:07,160
Speaker 1: I remember us really winning the field position battle. Yeah,

1013
00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:09,719
Speaker 1: and that's people sometimes think, Oh, I feel like, no,

1014
00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:12,879
Speaker 1: it's critical, especially if your offensive struggling just a little bit. Yeah,

1015
00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:14,680
Speaker 1: we need and we need three points to be automatic

1016
00:49:14,719 --> 00:49:17,600
Speaker 1: inside the thirty absolutely real quick. This one more note

1017
00:49:17,600 --> 00:49:19,279
Speaker 1: on this. This is about Urban Meyer. It made no

1018
00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:21,719
Speaker 1: sense about the onsite kick attempt at all. Is they

1019
00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:24,239
Speaker 1: score their first touchdown, which made the score twenty four

1020
00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:27,440
Speaker 1: to six, and if you're still trying to win the game, hypothetically,

1021
00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:30,120
Speaker 1: you would go for two. They decided not to go

1022
00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:32,160
Speaker 1: for two and kick the kick the extra point, and

1023
00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:34,359
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden decide, hey, let's onsite kick. Well,

1024
00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:36,359
Speaker 1: they would have been down sixteen and then technically it's

1025
00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:38,600
Speaker 1: two scores even though it's sixteen. But that just made

1026
00:49:38,680 --> 00:49:40,879
Speaker 1: no sense and it's just it's par for the course

1027
00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:43,920
Speaker 1: or what's going on in Jacksonville. Up they beat Buffalo

1028
00:49:44,440 --> 00:49:48,200
Speaker 1: things see there? Man? Do you see their smart When

1029
00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:52,880
Speaker 1: he beat Buffalo last week, he looked like he got

1030
00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:55,279
Speaker 1: ten years younger. He was having fun again. He had

1031
00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:58,000
Speaker 1: a smile, he had some color in his cheeks before

1032
00:49:58,040 --> 00:50:01,279
Speaker 1: he looked pale and green and like he was he

1033
00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:04,319
Speaker 1: was gonna quit football, winning saws all this. He didn't

1034
00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:06,520
Speaker 1: keep that going. Okay, when we return, we'll go around

1035
00:50:06,560 --> 00:50:10,680
Speaker 1: the NFL. The NFL's taunting penalty strikes again. Can ob

1036
00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:13,279
Speaker 1: j resurrect his career the way a Hall of Famer did?

1037
00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:16,279
Speaker 1: And the biggest frauds at the midway point? We'll talk

1038
00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:18,680
Speaker 1: about that next here on Hawks Live, Hawks Live and

1039
00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:21,759
Speaker 1: Michael bumpas with Paul Moyer. This is Tupac. All eyes

1040
00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:23,800
Speaker 1: on me, but it's all ears on us right now. No,

1041
00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:27,279
Speaker 1: all eyes on me, all ears on us. You're you're

1042
00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:30,839
Speaker 1: your boys out there right now are saying at least

1043
00:50:30,840 --> 00:50:33,680
Speaker 1: you got one right, at least they're gonna text you

1044
00:50:33,760 --> 00:50:36,200
Speaker 1: and say, okay, good At least you know music, I

1045
00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:38,480
Speaker 1: know a little bit about a little bit more right,

1046
00:50:38,719 --> 00:50:41,960
Speaker 1: all right? He So this NFL taunting rule, it's something

1047
00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:45,200
Speaker 1: that I really do not like. Football is an emotional game.

1048
00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:48,800
Speaker 1: Sports in general, they're emotional, right, You show your passion,

1049
00:50:48,920 --> 00:50:51,920
Speaker 1: you yeah, you make a play. It's hard to be

1050
00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:53,799
Speaker 1: a robot out there. There's some guys who are good

1051
00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:55,440
Speaker 1: at doing that and that's the way they work. But

1052
00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:58,080
Speaker 1: I want to say seventy percent of athletes are emotional.

1053
00:50:58,320 --> 00:51:01,560
Speaker 1: That's what makes us human beings, what makes his great athletes.

1054
00:51:01,640 --> 00:51:03,799
Speaker 1: Who's your favorite athlete of all athlete of all time?

1055
00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:10,919
Speaker 1: I mean, Michael Jordan's probably pretty pretty up there. I'm emotional. Yeah,

1056
00:51:10,960 --> 00:51:13,400
Speaker 1: that was my my my era of football. Wise, I

1057
00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:15,719
Speaker 1: don't even know Mike Michael's the one that jumps out

1058
00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:17,719
Speaker 1: because I just, you know, I just thought he was

1059
00:51:17,719 --> 00:51:21,040
Speaker 1: incredible and he was emotional. Dunk and Patrick Ewing, he

1060
00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:24,799
Speaker 1: fists in your face, and you know, I honestly don't

1061
00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:28,400
Speaker 1: even think it's taunting. I think you know, there, we

1062
00:51:28,560 --> 00:51:31,960
Speaker 1: know what taunting is. I used do you remember you

1063
00:51:32,360 --> 00:51:34,400
Speaker 1: may not remember this guy named Emil Harry. He was

1064
00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:38,040
Speaker 1: a wide receiver at Stanford. So we're playing them and

1065
00:51:38,200 --> 00:51:40,200
Speaker 1: we got number one defense in the country. We got

1066
00:51:40,280 --> 00:51:43,279
Speaker 1: John Elway and they got like number one offense. And

1067
00:51:43,480 --> 00:51:46,359
Speaker 1: I am you can see my head is I'm I'm

1068
00:51:46,440 --> 00:51:49,799
Speaker 1: walking him back. You come across the middle again, do it?

1069
00:51:50,080 --> 00:51:53,160
Speaker 1: Do it? And I'm jogging him to his That's taunting.

1070
00:51:53,200 --> 00:51:58,480
Speaker 1: That should absolutely be flagged today. Um, but today they're

1071
00:51:58,560 --> 00:52:01,520
Speaker 1: throwing stuff just off emotion, and that's not taunting. The

1072
00:52:01,560 --> 00:52:04,000
Speaker 1: guy makes a big hit, you almost expect him to

1073
00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:06,279
Speaker 1: get up excited over the guy. And so yeah, I

1074
00:52:06,719 --> 00:52:08,759
Speaker 1: hate this new rule. All right. So we're talking about

1075
00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:11,760
Speaker 1: this because of a situation that happened. Okay, here's the situation.

1076
00:52:11,800 --> 00:52:14,280
Speaker 1: The Steelers face a third and eight from the Chicago

1077
00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:17,479
Speaker 1: forty seven yard line with three forty on the clock

1078
00:52:17,480 --> 00:52:19,319
Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter. Cash is a marsh who used

1079
00:52:19,320 --> 00:52:22,719
Speaker 1: to play here Zak Roethlisberger, which should have forced a

1080
00:52:22,840 --> 00:52:26,719
Speaker 1: punt given the Bears the ball down twenty three to twenty.

1081
00:52:26,760 --> 00:52:31,080
Speaker 1: After the sag Marsha, the spinning like roundhouse kick, the

1082
00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:33,600
Speaker 1: signature kick. That's that's what he does. Right then he

1083
00:52:33,680 --> 00:52:36,320
Speaker 1: took a couple steps to the Steelers sideline. He's staring

1084
00:52:36,360 --> 00:52:39,759
Speaker 1: him down. Didn't say nothing and far away, too far away, right,

1085
00:52:39,800 --> 00:52:43,360
Speaker 1: didn't say nothing. He's staring him down and the referee

1086
00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:46,920
Speaker 1: Tony Corine. If I'm butchering name, I'm sorry, Tony. I'm

1087
00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:49,080
Speaker 1: not sorry because you shouldn't have thrown that dang flag.

1088
00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:54,480
Speaker 1: He's waiting for Cashes to walk by him, he bumps

1089
00:52:54,520 --> 00:52:59,520
Speaker 1: into him and then he throws the flag. Now that

1090
00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:02,480
Speaker 1: didn't at the drive for the Pitts big Steelers. Wow,

1091
00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:05,920
Speaker 1: is right? I don't know because the putter was running

1092
00:53:05,920 --> 00:53:08,399
Speaker 1: out whether the official thought, but he wasn't even looking

1093
00:53:08,440 --> 00:53:10,880
Speaker 1: at the putter. He was looking at the sideline. He

1094
00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:13,400
Speaker 1: wasn't looking at the putter. He wasn't talking to the putter.

1095
00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:17,520
Speaker 1: I mean, I understand the respect of the game. Like

1096
00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:22,360
Speaker 1: he's looking at the bench. This can't and he's not.

1097
00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:26,440
Speaker 1: He's not talking to the putter. That. Oh he's definitely not. No,

1098
00:53:26,600 --> 00:53:30,920
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, watch us again. Now he's already reaching.

1099
00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:34,320
Speaker 1: He didn't do nothing. It's emotion. It's emotion that stealers

1100
00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:36,839
Speaker 1: with kick a field goal on that driving glove of six.

1101
00:53:37,120 --> 00:53:38,680
Speaker 1: It didn't decide the game, but it definitely had a

1102
00:53:38,680 --> 00:53:41,840
Speaker 1: major impact. Here's what Marsh had to say about the incident.

1103
00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:44,640
Speaker 1: I think it's pretty clear to everybody who saw it

1104
00:53:44,840 --> 00:53:49,719
Speaker 1: that I wasn't taunting, and like, you know, I've been

1105
00:53:49,719 --> 00:53:51,960
Speaker 1: doing the celebration my whole career, and uh, it's just

1106
00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:53,560
Speaker 1: had to see stuff like that happened in a close

1107
00:53:53,640 --> 00:53:55,600
Speaker 1: game like that. It's just rough. Man. I don't want

1108
00:53:55,600 --> 00:53:57,759
Speaker 1: to say too much because y'all know how it is.

1109
00:53:57,800 --> 00:53:59,360
Speaker 1: But the one thing that I will say is a

1110
00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:03,239
Speaker 1: you know, on my way to the sideline, I got

1111
00:54:03,320 --> 00:54:06,160
Speaker 1: hip checked by the ref, and it it's pretty clear

1112
00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:09,279
Speaker 1: if I were to do that to a ref, or

1113
00:54:09,320 --> 00:54:11,400
Speaker 1: even touch the ref, you know, we get kicked out

1114
00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:15,160
Speaker 1: of the game and possibly suspended and fined. So I

1115
00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:18,719
Speaker 1: just think that that was incredibly inappropriate, and that's all

1116
00:54:18,719 --> 00:54:21,160
Speaker 1: I'll say about that. If he were to bump into

1117
00:54:21,200 --> 00:54:23,239
Speaker 1: a ref, the ref would have felled down, he would

1118
00:54:23,239 --> 00:54:25,719
Speaker 1: have been carted off and had a neck brace, son

1119
00:54:25,719 --> 00:54:27,840
Speaker 1: he would have been find fifty k It would have

1120
00:54:27,880 --> 00:54:29,919
Speaker 1: been the end of the world. He's what the referee said.

1121
00:54:30,320 --> 00:54:32,279
Speaker 1: I saw the player after he made a big play,

1122
00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:35,360
Speaker 1: run towards the bench of the Pittsburgh Steelers and posture

1123
00:54:35,600 --> 00:54:38,480
Speaker 1: in such a way that I felt was taunting posture.

1124
00:54:39,040 --> 00:54:43,520
Speaker 1: This is a machismo sport. There's a bunch of Alphas

1125
00:54:43,520 --> 00:54:47,640
Speaker 1: out there. This is a violent sport. Can we do

1126
00:54:47,719 --> 00:54:50,239
Speaker 1: we have to ignore all of that. Like, I understand

1127
00:54:50,320 --> 00:54:53,239
Speaker 1: that you're trying to set a standard for these young

1128
00:54:53,320 --> 00:54:55,719
Speaker 1: kids coming up, but even in high school football, I

1129
00:54:55,760 --> 00:54:57,759
Speaker 1: want my dogs to be dogs. I want them to

1130
00:54:57,760 --> 00:55:00,239
Speaker 1: make a play and feel that emotion that they made

1131
00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:03,120
Speaker 1: a play. And I'm okay with them staring down a

1132
00:55:03,120 --> 00:55:05,640
Speaker 1: guy for a minute and walking away. That's just part

1133
00:55:05,680 --> 00:55:07,799
Speaker 1: of the game. More and you played, I feel like

1134
00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:10,200
Speaker 1: you played in an error where that was the most

1135
00:55:10,200 --> 00:55:13,560
Speaker 1: accepted that it's ever been. It's almost disgusted you to

1136
00:55:13,560 --> 00:55:15,879
Speaker 1: see where the game is today. As far as taunting, yeah,

1137
00:55:15,920 --> 00:55:19,160
Speaker 1: I mean again, there's there's a point of taunting that

1138
00:55:19,719 --> 00:55:22,120
Speaker 1: we know goes over the line. I get that, and

1139
00:55:22,160 --> 00:55:25,360
Speaker 1: you yeah, I mean, no one really likes that part

1140
00:55:25,400 --> 00:55:28,799
Speaker 1: of it. But the quick emotion a big play, you know,

1141
00:55:28,840 --> 00:55:32,200
Speaker 1: a big hit, he had a big sack. I mean,

1142
00:55:32,400 --> 00:55:34,319
Speaker 1: you got a chance to win that game. I mean,

1143
00:55:34,320 --> 00:55:36,400
Speaker 1: it's just that's a critical play in the game. There's

1144
00:55:36,440 --> 00:55:39,839
Speaker 1: like five minutes left in the game. To me, I

1145
00:55:39,920 --> 00:55:42,160
Speaker 1: hate the rule. I don't even know if it's the rule.

1146
00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:44,200
Speaker 1: How do I want to say? The rule has always

1147
00:55:44,239 --> 00:55:47,439
Speaker 1: been there. They're just enforcing it in a different way now.

1148
00:55:47,920 --> 00:55:51,160
Speaker 1: And it's to me easy for them to say, here's

1149
00:55:51,160 --> 00:55:53,440
Speaker 1: what you do. It's like basketball. I want you to

1150
00:55:53,520 --> 00:55:56,400
Speaker 1: call fouls early in the first quarter. Let him play

1151
00:55:56,520 --> 00:55:58,359
Speaker 1: after that. You do the same thing with the rest,

1152
00:55:58,440 --> 00:56:01,160
Speaker 1: Just say hey, look, you can talk to them. Hey guys,

1153
00:56:01,160 --> 00:56:03,200
Speaker 1: stop it. You know it again. Next time, I'm gonna

1154
00:56:03,239 --> 00:56:04,960
Speaker 1: throw a flag. You know, you guys are getting out

1155
00:56:04,960 --> 00:56:07,880
Speaker 1: of control. You know how to rain these rest, know

1156
00:56:07,960 --> 00:56:10,160
Speaker 1: what to do. I think the rest are confused now

1157
00:56:10,160 --> 00:56:12,799
Speaker 1: where everybody's getting mad at the rest. It's coming down

1158
00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:14,680
Speaker 1: from the NFL. The NFL says they're not going to

1159
00:56:14,760 --> 00:56:17,000
Speaker 1: do anything about it as part of the competition committee.

1160
00:56:17,160 --> 00:56:20,640
Speaker 1: It's a quick, easy fix. Hey, rest, everybody jump on

1161
00:56:20,680 --> 00:56:23,600
Speaker 1: a zoom call. All right, here's the deal, commissioner, all right,

1162
00:56:23,640 --> 00:56:25,960
Speaker 1: here's what we're gonna do. We're gonna can force that

1163
00:56:26,120 --> 00:56:28,320
Speaker 1: really around the first court, just to set the tone,

1164
00:56:28,719 --> 00:56:30,600
Speaker 1: and then we're going back to how you guys used

1165
00:56:30,640 --> 00:56:33,279
Speaker 1: to do it. It's got to be egregious. It's got

1166
00:56:33,280 --> 00:56:36,040
Speaker 1: to be something where the guy almost punches somebody other

1167
00:56:36,080 --> 00:56:39,839
Speaker 1: than that it's a celebration, which is allowed today, and

1168
00:56:39,880 --> 00:56:41,640
Speaker 1: so to me, it's just the way they enforce it.

1169
00:56:41,880 --> 00:56:44,920
Speaker 1: They're ruined the game when they really had it fixed

1170
00:56:45,040 --> 00:56:48,279
Speaker 1: last year when they finally started allowing celebrations and made

1171
00:56:48,360 --> 00:56:51,759
Speaker 1: them fun. Before that was like you were sinning, you know,

1172
00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:54,080
Speaker 1: is like we're gonna find you for that stuff. Now

1173
00:56:54,080 --> 00:56:56,759
Speaker 1: the game is fun. Everybody likes it, so they got

1174
00:56:56,760 --> 00:56:58,200
Speaker 1: to get rid of this rule. In the words of

1175
00:56:58,320 --> 00:57:01,160
Speaker 1: Rick James, it's a celebration and filling the rest. I'm

1176
00:57:01,760 --> 00:57:04,879
Speaker 1: not trying to get fired here. Now listen, now, let's

1177
00:57:05,280 --> 00:57:09,920
Speaker 1: the world's game is soccer, right, Those dudes celebrate, they talk.

1178
00:57:10,400 --> 00:57:14,239
Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's super emotional, just like football. So

1179
00:57:14,280 --> 00:57:16,760
Speaker 1: why is football so much different than the game that

1180
00:57:16,840 --> 00:57:20,040
Speaker 1: the world plays and loves? Like, I don't understand why

1181
00:57:20,080 --> 00:57:23,120
Speaker 1: they're trying to handcuff these young men into making them

1182
00:57:23,120 --> 00:57:25,400
Speaker 1: conform to be a certain way. That's the problem. You

1183
00:57:25,480 --> 00:57:27,760
Speaker 1: got old heads at the top, right, These guys who

1184
00:57:27,760 --> 00:57:30,480
Speaker 1: have been in the league for years, own teams for years.

1185
00:57:30,800 --> 00:57:33,440
Speaker 1: Back in our day, you didn't play Actually you did

1186
00:57:33,480 --> 00:57:35,320
Speaker 1: play like that back in your day. It was dirtier.

1187
00:57:35,560 --> 00:57:37,560
Speaker 1: Back in your day, they did a little bit more,

1188
00:57:37,800 --> 00:57:40,240
Speaker 1: a little extracurricular activity back in the day. I don't

1189
00:57:40,320 --> 00:57:42,320
Speaker 1: understand why they're taking the fun out of the game.

1190
00:57:42,440 --> 00:57:46,560
Speaker 1: If you let guys celebrate, ratings are going up, well,

1191
00:57:46,680 --> 00:57:49,400
Speaker 1: people get mad. I mean everybody's mad at this stuff.

1192
00:57:49,440 --> 00:57:51,640
Speaker 1: I mean part of it is the whole helmet, the

1193
00:57:51,640 --> 00:57:54,760
Speaker 1: helmet thing. That stuff's confusing. I'm asked, there's there's a

1194
00:57:54,800 --> 00:57:57,120
Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago where the running back lowered his

1195
00:57:57,160 --> 00:58:00,560
Speaker 1: heading to hit the defender on the side. The defender

1196
00:58:00,560 --> 00:58:02,760
Speaker 1: actually got his head down first and was going for

1197
00:58:02,840 --> 00:58:05,600
Speaker 1: his knees. I'm like, I'm beyond confused. I don't know

1198
00:58:05,600 --> 00:58:08,280
Speaker 1: what to do with that. But here's what was interesting.

1199
00:58:08,320 --> 00:58:10,840
Speaker 1: As coach Tomlin was the one who said, hey, I'm

1200
00:58:10,880 --> 00:58:12,760
Speaker 1: all for this role. We need to get rid of

1201
00:58:12,800 --> 00:58:16,320
Speaker 1: this stuff. He was on the competition committee. So guys

1202
00:58:16,320 --> 00:58:19,200
Speaker 1: that I respect and get the game, and they know

1203
00:58:19,320 --> 00:58:23,240
Speaker 1: it's tough. They're gonna fix this because the fans are

1204
00:58:23,240 --> 00:58:26,200
Speaker 1: gonna complain enough. And it's not about safety, right the

1205
00:58:26,280 --> 00:58:28,440
Speaker 1: fans like it. Let's get rid of it. Let's not

1206
00:58:28,480 --> 00:58:30,720
Speaker 1: have it influenced the game. Let the boys be boys.

1207
00:58:30,760 --> 00:58:32,320
Speaker 1: Let them have some fun out there. Okay, When we

1208
00:58:32,440 --> 00:58:35,120
Speaker 1: return show recap, we'll give our final thoughts and keys

1209
00:58:35,120 --> 00:58:38,440
Speaker 1: of Virte. That's next here on Hawk's Lock. Michael Bump

1210
00:58:38,520 --> 00:58:41,720
Speaker 1: is here when Paul Moyer Thursday Night Football. The Ravens

1211
00:58:41,800 --> 00:58:44,280
Speaker 1: look like they're about to take an l Lamar Jackson

1212
00:58:44,280 --> 00:58:47,480
Speaker 1: throws an interception with forty three seconds left. The Dolphins

1213
00:58:47,520 --> 00:58:53,600
Speaker 1: are of twenty two to ten, the NFL's wild this year. Man, Well,

1214
00:58:53,680 --> 00:58:57,640
Speaker 1: I mean Lamar Jackson. I mean, look, I feel like

1215
00:58:57,680 --> 00:59:00,720
Speaker 1: he's made the turn the corner, he can beat the

1216
00:59:00,800 --> 00:59:04,919
Speaker 1: throwing and running it. I'm just not a Greg Roman fan.

1217
00:59:05,320 --> 00:59:08,000
Speaker 1: You know, that's their offensive coordinator. I just think he

1218
00:59:08,040 --> 00:59:10,120
Speaker 1: gets too cute. I was watching some of the stuff

1219
00:59:10,160 --> 00:59:12,760
Speaker 1: he's doing today. I'm like, dude, just play football. Just

1220
00:59:12,840 --> 00:59:15,080
Speaker 1: let Lamar go out and try to win some games.

1221
00:59:15,080 --> 00:59:17,720
Speaker 1: But you know you're gonna have bad games. Um. He

1222
00:59:17,800 --> 00:59:20,080
Speaker 1: turned the ball over a couple of times. Actually he didn't.

1223
00:59:20,120 --> 00:59:22,360
Speaker 1: They had a fumble that they picked up ran for

1224
00:59:22,400 --> 00:59:25,680
Speaker 1: a touchdown. UM. Turnovers definitely was a factor in this.

1225
00:59:26,080 --> 00:59:28,920
Speaker 1: But you know, there really isn't any great teams out there.

1226
00:59:29,000 --> 00:59:31,919
Speaker 1: There's some in the NFC. So I'll ask you who

1227
00:59:31,920 --> 00:59:34,400
Speaker 1: are you most concerned? Who are you afraid of? You

1228
00:59:34,440 --> 00:59:36,640
Speaker 1: have to go up against the teams right now. To me,

1229
00:59:36,680 --> 00:59:40,920
Speaker 1: there's four of them. There's Tampa Bay and I'm talking,

1230
00:59:40,640 --> 00:59:45,880
Speaker 1: and there's Green Bay, there's Arizona. Um, you got out

1231
00:59:46,200 --> 00:59:48,960
Speaker 1: the Cowboys in there? Do you do? They look horrible?

1232
00:59:49,000 --> 00:59:51,640
Speaker 1: Ast Yeah? Last week, every everyone has their bad weeks

1233
00:59:51,920 --> 00:59:57,200
Speaker 1: at home against the Broncosy you're right, I mean we're

1234
00:59:57,240 --> 01:00:00,760
Speaker 1: watching Baltimore there. They got destroyed, Buffalo got beat last

1235
01:00:00,760 --> 01:00:04,480
Speaker 1: week by the Jags. It's it's it's pretty much anybody

1236
01:00:04,520 --> 01:00:07,920
Speaker 1: but um. And then I gotta throw the Rams in there. Definitely.

1237
01:00:08,000 --> 01:00:13,280
Speaker 1: So of those five teams, I'll repeat them again for you, Tampa, Arizona, Dallas,

1238
01:00:13,360 --> 01:00:17,000
Speaker 1: Green Bay and the Rams. Who are you most afraid?

1239
01:00:17,240 --> 01:00:22,400
Speaker 1: Most afraid of? And I have to go with the

1240
01:00:22,480 --> 01:00:26,760
Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals because what they did last week They won

1241
01:00:26,800 --> 01:00:31,600
Speaker 1: a game without Kyler Murder, without Hopkins, without aj Green. Yes,

1242
01:00:31,640 --> 01:00:33,720
Speaker 1: they beat the forty nine ers who were struggling, but

1243
01:00:33,840 --> 01:00:36,040
Speaker 1: that you still got to respect that defense. You still

1244
01:00:36,040 --> 01:00:38,760
Speaker 1: respect the forty nine ers organization. They're not playing well,

1245
01:00:39,160 --> 01:00:42,000
Speaker 1: but what they did without their hogs out there, I'm

1246
01:00:42,000 --> 01:00:46,840
Speaker 1: looking at a Z and I'm I'm scared. I'm a

1247
01:00:46,840 --> 01:00:48,960
Speaker 1: little scared, but I'm waiting to see what the Rams

1248
01:00:48,960 --> 01:00:51,120
Speaker 1: look like. What Odell Beckham too, I'm interested to see

1249
01:00:51,160 --> 01:00:53,479
Speaker 1: what that. Yeah, I shouldn't use the word scared because neither.

1250
01:00:53,520 --> 01:00:56,000
Speaker 1: We're not scared of anybody, but the team were most

1251
01:00:56,040 --> 01:00:58,560
Speaker 1: concerned that would give us the biggest problems. That probably

1252
01:00:58,560 --> 01:01:01,440
Speaker 1: has the best chance to go the Super Bowl. Well,

1253
01:01:02,080 --> 01:01:07,440
Speaker 1: Green Bay went into Arizona had nobody but Aisy should

1254
01:01:07,440 --> 01:01:10,120
Speaker 1: have won that game though that last play, you got

1255
01:01:10,160 --> 01:01:12,520
Speaker 1: your veteran receiver out on the same page, or at

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01:01:12,600 --> 01:01:15,120
Speaker 1: least tied it with a few. Yeah, but it was

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01:01:15,200 --> 01:01:19,280
Speaker 1: on the road. They had nobody, They're tied, end got hurt,

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01:01:19,320 --> 01:01:23,520
Speaker 1: they didn't have any wide receivers. Really good game plan,

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01:01:23,600 --> 01:01:26,959
Speaker 1: though defensively they shut down. I thought Arizona pretty well.

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01:01:27,000 --> 01:01:29,760
Speaker 1: I mean they got after Kyler Murray. So I I

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Speaker 1: just I'm gonna throw Green Bay in there right now.

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01:01:32,000 --> 01:01:34,480
Speaker 1: I hope we put it. We knocked, you know, some

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01:01:34,560 --> 01:01:36,960
Speaker 1: of that armor off, and all of a sudden we

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Speaker 1: jump up there. Even with a four and five record,

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Speaker 1: Tampa Bay obviously in there. I think Arizona, green Bay,

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Speaker 1: the Rams, they're all worthy. And you know this thing

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01:01:45,280 --> 01:01:48,200
Speaker 1: will play itself out. But what I saw on film

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01:01:49,040 --> 01:01:52,800
Speaker 1: with Arizona and green Bay, green Bay was the better team.

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Speaker 1: So you like green Bay for the same reasons why

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01:01:56,360 --> 01:01:59,760
Speaker 1: I like Arizona, because they played a game, a tough

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Speaker 1: game without their dudes and got her dem Here's the

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Speaker 1: other thing. Green Bay is a twenty second rank offense

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01:02:07,320 --> 01:02:10,760
Speaker 1: in NFL. They haven't even let they haven't had to

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01:02:10,880 --> 01:02:14,360
Speaker 1: let Aaron Rodgers loose yet. They've just been winning. I mean,

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01:02:14,360 --> 01:02:16,360
Speaker 1: they lost the first one thirty eight to three. They

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01:02:16,480 --> 01:02:19,280
Speaker 1: run seven games in a row. They're running. Paul, say

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01:02:19,320 --> 01:02:22,600
Speaker 1: that moreyer because you don't like statistics. No, I'm just

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01:02:22,640 --> 01:02:25,520
Speaker 1: saying that they they've been winning, so they haven't let

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Speaker 1: him loose. Okay, and they're still winning. Yeah, they've been

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01:02:28,560 --> 01:02:32,120
Speaker 1: winning with defense. They've been running, winning, running to football.

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01:02:32,440 --> 01:02:34,880
Speaker 1: They win it by not turning the football over. I

1282
01:02:34,880 --> 01:02:37,080
Speaker 1: don't know. Does that sound like a team yet up

1283
01:02:37,080 --> 01:02:39,720
Speaker 1: here in the Northwest that you'd like to duplicate. Yeah,

1284
01:02:39,760 --> 01:02:42,040
Speaker 1: everybody thinks, oh, we gotta throw it, throw it. Guess what,

1285
01:02:42,320 --> 01:02:45,240
Speaker 1: green Bay not throwing the ball over the place. Now

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01:02:45,280 --> 01:02:47,880
Speaker 1: they're not, and they have two backs who are getting done.

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01:02:47,920 --> 01:02:50,920
Speaker 1: You got Aaron Jones and aj Dillon Between the two

1288
01:02:50,960 --> 01:02:54,280
Speaker 1: of you got four touchdowns and nine hundred yards. You

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01:02:54,360 --> 01:02:57,160
Speaker 1: got Aaron excuse me, you got Davonte Adams seven hundred

1290
01:02:57,200 --> 01:02:59,440
Speaker 1: eighty six yards and they no one's talking about this

1291
01:02:59,480 --> 01:03:02,000
Speaker 1: guy in d his Bevan Devantrey. Campbell's a good ball player.

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01:03:02,280 --> 01:03:04,640
Speaker 1: He's fourth or fifth in the league with eighty three tackles,

1293
01:03:04,680 --> 01:03:07,720
Speaker 1: and he leads the team in interceptions with two. I

1294
01:03:07,760 --> 01:03:10,160
Speaker 1: know that's not big, but for a linebacker leading the

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01:03:10,160 --> 01:03:12,880
Speaker 1: team of interceptions. Man, they got some guys over there

1296
01:03:12,960 --> 01:03:15,360
Speaker 1: and people are are gonna hype up that Aaron Rodgers

1297
01:03:15,440 --> 01:03:19,600
Speaker 1: hasn't practiced all week. His timing might be off. Man,

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01:03:19,640 --> 01:03:21,800
Speaker 1: this is Aaron Rodgers. This guy's been in the league

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01:03:21,840 --> 01:03:24,480
Speaker 1: for what thirteen to fifteen years. At this point, you

1300
01:03:24,560 --> 01:03:26,600
Speaker 1: don't need to practice, he doesn't need to show up.

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01:03:26,640 --> 01:03:28,720
Speaker 1: What's the game plan or what defense is this? Oh yeah,

1302
01:03:28,720 --> 01:03:31,000
Speaker 1: I've seen this defense plenty of times. You're not gonna

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01:03:31,000 --> 01:03:33,960
Speaker 1: surprise me with anything special. Okay, I got one for you,

1304
01:03:34,000 --> 01:03:36,320
Speaker 1: all right. You got Aaron who hasn't played all week

1305
01:03:36,360 --> 01:03:40,200
Speaker 1: and won't be able to practice for two weeks. You

1306
01:03:40,320 --> 01:03:43,960
Speaker 1: got our guy, Russell Wilson coming back from you know,

1307
01:03:44,120 --> 01:03:48,840
Speaker 1: a pen in his finger taken off and his practicing thrown.

1308
01:03:48,920 --> 01:03:51,640
Speaker 1: But he's still just got off surgery and had the

1309
01:03:51,680 --> 01:03:55,800
Speaker 1: pen removed. Who has a better game? Aaron Rodgers has

1310
01:03:55,800 --> 01:03:59,720
Speaker 1: a better game because there's no physical limitations. He's not

1311
01:03:59,720 --> 01:04:02,120
Speaker 1: set in guessing anything when it comes to his body.

1312
01:04:02,680 --> 01:04:05,479
Speaker 1: And we talked about him being a veteran. He's seen

1313
01:04:05,560 --> 01:04:08,959
Speaker 1: every defense out there. He studied the Seahawks. He knows

1314
01:04:09,000 --> 01:04:11,480
Speaker 1: what they're gonna do. I think the thing if anything

1315
01:04:11,520 --> 01:04:14,240
Speaker 1: that affects Russell Wilson is at his cold and there's

1316
01:04:14,240 --> 01:04:15,720
Speaker 1: a he had a pin in his finger and that

1317
01:04:15,800 --> 01:04:18,080
Speaker 1: thing's not one hundred percent. And what if he throws

1318
01:04:18,080 --> 01:04:20,439
Speaker 1: a football I guess nicked up on a shoulder pad

1319
01:04:20,520 --> 01:04:23,280
Speaker 1: or something like. There's physical I think Russell Wilson is

1320
01:04:23,320 --> 01:04:26,000
Speaker 1: mentally one of the toughest human beings in this world.

1321
01:04:26,320 --> 01:04:29,720
Speaker 1: But when something hurt it, it hurts. Man. I read

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01:04:31,080 --> 01:04:33,120
Speaker 1: I don't know if it was a quote for him

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01:04:33,240 --> 01:04:37,200
Speaker 1: or a tweet. Supposedly he was nineteen twenty hours a

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01:04:37,360 --> 01:04:40,920
Speaker 1: day that he wanted to push this recovery faster than

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01:04:41,040 --> 01:04:44,240
Speaker 1: any recovery in history. And I'm I'm paraphrasing on that. No,

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Speaker 1: I got you right here, Paul. This was Russell during

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01:04:46,240 --> 01:04:48,520
Speaker 1: his press conference today. I think to be surrounded around

1328
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Speaker 1: some of the best people in the world, you know,

1329
01:04:50,320 --> 01:04:54,080
Speaker 1: daily obviously this organization of people around here, and also

1330
01:04:54,120 --> 01:04:55,840
Speaker 1: to just kind of my performance team, I mean, just

1331
01:04:55,880 --> 01:04:59,640
Speaker 1: to have aiming my pt with the amount of time.

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01:04:59,680 --> 01:05:02,800
Speaker 1: I mean we literally probably twenty hours a day, nineteen

1333
01:05:02,840 --> 01:05:05,880
Speaker 1: hours a day, you know, we're working on on his hands,

1334
01:05:05,920 --> 01:05:08,440
Speaker 1: just trying to to break records with this thing, because

1335
01:05:08,760 --> 01:05:11,000
Speaker 1: you know, it was a pretty severe injury, you know,

1336
01:05:11,000 --> 01:05:13,760
Speaker 1: in the sense of how many things happened, you know,

1337
01:05:13,800 --> 01:05:15,760
Speaker 1: And so I think that for me, my whole, my

1338
01:05:15,800 --> 01:05:17,600
Speaker 1: whole mindset was to cut the time and half no

1339
01:05:17,640 --> 01:05:20,560
Speaker 1: time to sleep, you know. I mean, if ever there's

1340
01:05:20,600 --> 01:05:25,880
Speaker 1: somebody could push a book on positive um healing, you know,

1341
01:05:26,000 --> 01:05:27,720
Speaker 1: it's him. He because he said, look, my injury is

1342
01:05:27,720 --> 01:05:29,800
Speaker 1: supposed to be a six to eight week injury. And

1343
01:05:29,800 --> 01:05:32,480
Speaker 1: then he said that was just unacceptable to me, And

1344
01:05:32,640 --> 01:05:35,440
Speaker 1: I'm thinking, well, what was he was he like sleeping

1345
01:05:35,480 --> 01:05:37,360
Speaker 1: and they're working on his hand. I mean, you get

1346
01:05:37,400 --> 01:05:39,360
Speaker 1: that kind of money, you can do whatever you want

1347
01:05:39,440 --> 01:05:43,200
Speaker 1: right his hands in a chamber as a chamber you know,

1348
01:05:43,480 --> 01:05:45,680
Speaker 1: remember what TL did. He slept in a chamber. Yeah,

1349
01:05:45,720 --> 01:05:48,600
Speaker 1: with the Super Bowl, that's probably would rusted hands. It's

1350
01:05:48,680 --> 01:05:52,960
Speaker 1: it's impressive whatever it is. He's gonna play Sunday. Wow.

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01:05:53,560 --> 01:05:58,520
Speaker 1: I mean, you can say whatever you want, but he

1352
01:05:58,600 --> 01:06:01,960
Speaker 1: probably the only guy who's playing this Sunday from that injury. Yeah,

1353
01:06:02,000 --> 01:06:05,840
Speaker 1: and it is throwing hand. It's gonna be code. If

1354
01:06:05,960 --> 01:06:09,680
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson can muster up a win, this is gonna

1355
01:06:09,680 --> 01:06:13,240
Speaker 1: be one of the greatest stories of his career. I mean,

1356
01:06:13,240 --> 01:06:15,240
Speaker 1: he's got some moments, you know what I mean. But

1357
01:06:15,320 --> 01:06:18,160
Speaker 1: if he comes back after all this stuff, he's been through,

1358
01:06:18,720 --> 01:06:21,160
Speaker 1: nineteen twenty hours of rehab, hand in the chamber, I'm

1359
01:06:21,160 --> 01:06:22,640
Speaker 1: just gonna throw it out there. Probably not true, but

1360
01:06:22,680 --> 01:06:26,000
Speaker 1: handed the chamber while he's sleep, going to lambeau Field.

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Speaker 1: They haven't won there since nineteen ninety nine, three and five,

1362
01:06:29,520 --> 01:06:31,640
Speaker 1: one game out of the playoffs. I mean this you

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01:06:31,760 --> 01:06:35,800
Speaker 1: get me fired up, right, I'm about you here here,

1364
01:06:35,880 --> 01:06:40,040
Speaker 1: right here first. That is pretty impressive. Yeah, and if

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Speaker 1: he does, that will be an ear right. He's broken

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01:06:42,800 --> 01:06:45,200
Speaker 1: so many records, done so many phenomenal things. Just would

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01:06:45,280 --> 01:06:47,840
Speaker 1: be it'd be way up there, all right, so a

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01:06:47,880 --> 01:06:51,439
Speaker 1: couple of things. What do the Hawks have to do

1369
01:06:51,720 --> 01:06:56,440
Speaker 1: to win this game? Uh, have the Aaron test. No,

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01:06:56,640 --> 01:07:03,320
Speaker 1: he's not testing. I there be you know, Aaron throws

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01:07:03,760 --> 01:07:06,760
Speaker 1: contested balls. I think the big one I said at

1372
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Speaker 1: the very beginning is there are gonna be four or

1373
01:07:09,200 --> 01:07:11,600
Speaker 1: five big plays. We've got to make those. We have

1374
01:07:11,800 --> 01:07:14,960
Speaker 1: got to make big, impactful plays. We got to have

1375
01:07:15,000 --> 01:07:17,640
Speaker 1: some explosive plays. That is me. I want to throw

1376
01:07:17,640 --> 01:07:19,400
Speaker 1: the ball over the place, because they're pretty good at

1377
01:07:19,400 --> 01:07:21,720
Speaker 1: past defense. You know, we got to run the football

1378
01:07:21,840 --> 01:07:23,960
Speaker 1: and we got to play good. You know, let's just

1379
01:07:24,040 --> 01:07:27,240
Speaker 1: keep the chains moving. I'd like to win the time

1380
01:07:27,240 --> 01:07:30,520
Speaker 1: of possession, which we haven't done all year. I mean

1381
01:07:30,640 --> 01:07:33,800
Speaker 1: we've been way behind on that. Those are the big ones. Turnovers.

1382
01:07:33,840 --> 01:07:35,880
Speaker 1: I mean, all the suspects that we throw out there,

1383
01:07:35,880 --> 01:07:38,120
Speaker 1: but the big one off I'll say on this, we

1384
01:07:38,200 --> 01:07:42,840
Speaker 1: have got to win the five big plays, those contested balls,

1385
01:07:42,960 --> 01:07:45,880
Speaker 1: jump balls, balls on the ground. We've got to get

1386
01:07:45,920 --> 01:07:49,160
Speaker 1: that turnover. None of it can go their way. They're

1387
01:07:49,240 --> 01:07:52,520
Speaker 1: really a good football team that we're about to play. Yeah,

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01:07:52,640 --> 01:07:54,640
Speaker 1: I agree with everything you said, and I think you

1389
01:07:54,720 --> 01:07:58,160
Speaker 1: got to throw in what you said earlier special teams,

1390
01:07:58,160 --> 01:08:01,920
Speaker 1: win special teams, phil position, and make your dang field

1391
01:08:01,920 --> 01:08:06,040
Speaker 1: goals when you are within range. Moyer, Man, appreciate you

1392
01:08:06,080 --> 01:08:08,600
Speaker 1: hanging out with me today. Man Special thanks to Bill Huber,

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01:08:09,560 --> 01:08:11,880
Speaker 1: Ray Roberts, and John Clayton for joining the show. Executive

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01:08:11,880 --> 01:08:15,280
Speaker 1: producer Nasha Chobe. The Seahawks pregame show was live Sunday

1395
01:08:15,280 --> 01:08:17,559
Speaker 1: starting at ten am. Until next time, I'm your host,

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01:08:17,640 --> 01:08:20,040
Speaker 1: Michael Obamas with Paul Moyer. We'll be back next week

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01:08:20,160 --> 01:08:21,280
Speaker 1: right here, Hawks Line.