1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,720 Speaker 1: The decision makers. Is what he likes to do. It's 2 00:00:02,759 --> 00:00:05,120 Speaker 1: what he likes to share. Now it's time to hear 3 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:09,280 Speaker 1: from my man, Rashan mcdonnoll Money Making Conversations. Here we go. 4 00:00:09,840 --> 00:00:12,680 Speaker 2: My guest today is doctor Corey Abert. He's the Chief 5 00:00:12,680 --> 00:00:17,159 Speaker 2: Medical Officer of Dealer University and an assistant professor at 6 00:00:17,320 --> 00:00:21,560 Speaker 2: LSU Health Services Center and Tulane University Medical Center in 7 00:00:21,600 --> 00:00:25,320 Speaker 2: New Orleans, Louisiana. Also an er physician for over twenty 8 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:28,120 Speaker 2: five years and one of the leading voices for sickle 9 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:32,040 Speaker 2: cell care. Doctor Abert is also co hosting a new show. 10 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:33,199 Speaker 1: Called Living Your Life. 11 00:00:33,400 --> 00:00:36,080 Speaker 2: He interviews incredible people who refuse to let a life 12 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:39,520 Speaker 2: threatening illness hold them back from success. He also talks 13 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:44,000 Speaker 2: to top medical, community and entertainment influences. The series Living 14 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:48,320 Speaker 2: Your Life brings attention to families and individuals thriving despite 15 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:52,320 Speaker 2: sickle cell disease or sickle cell trade. Please welcome for 16 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 2: the first time on my show, Money Making Conversations Masterclass, 17 00:00:55,880 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 2: Doctor Corey Abert. How you doing, sir. 18 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:01,520 Speaker 1: I'm doing great. And you know it's kind of funny. 19 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:05,960 Speaker 1: We've we've our passed across many times in the many 20 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:09,520 Speaker 1: years that you have been out on the on the road. 21 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:11,560 Speaker 1: I remember one time in South Africa we were doing 22 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:15,360 Speaker 1: a lit some Absolutely, yes, it's good to be good 23 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:16,280 Speaker 1: to hear me, and I'm glad. 24 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:18,360 Speaker 2: Well, you know when you when you go through New Orleans, 25 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:20,640 Speaker 2: especially as much as I've been New Orleans and plus 26 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:24,080 Speaker 2: South Africa, that it means that we're doing something right, 27 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:27,640 Speaker 2: because I know as far as your brand, you're nationally 28 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 2: known in the media Today's show Good Morning in America. 29 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:34,679 Speaker 2: Your face is very familiar when people turn on the tube, 30 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:38,559 Speaker 2: which gives credibility about your brand when you talk, because 31 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:39,319 Speaker 2: you are a brand. 32 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:43,040 Speaker 1: Doctor Aberro correct. Well, you know, I think it's a 33 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:45,960 Speaker 1: It's a word that people use very loosely now they 34 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:47,920 Speaker 1: want to get their brand. But I've been doing this 35 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 1: for twenty five years. So I hope that I put 36 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:52,480 Speaker 1: enough skin in the game and boots on the ground 37 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 1: that I could say officially that I do have a brand. 38 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 2: But how did it all start? You know, because you 39 00:01:57,480 --> 00:01:58,160 Speaker 2: know you don't. 40 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 1: You don't. I'm talking about the media poor of it all. 41 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:02,880 Speaker 2: Because you went to college, just like we all went 42 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:04,760 Speaker 2: to college. When you get that degree, then you went 43 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:07,400 Speaker 2: to medical and then you start serving the community in 44 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:11,359 Speaker 2: the degree format that you chose in college. But how 45 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 2: did the media transition happen in your career? 46 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:17,280 Speaker 1: You know it. It's a funny thing. You never know 47 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:21,359 Speaker 1: how stuffs gonna happen. So so basically, I finished, finished 48 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:25,800 Speaker 1: medical school, finished residency. But during residency in New Orleans, 49 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 1: we were the murder capital of the world in nineteen 50 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 1: ninety seven in New Orleans and we are the murder 51 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:33,200 Speaker 1: capital of the world once again, which makes me very sad. 52 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:36,640 Speaker 1: But we were, and I would be in the emergency 53 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 1: room and see all these people, black people, are poor 54 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:40,959 Speaker 1: people just coming to the ear in the middle of 55 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:44,400 Speaker 1: the night for like stuff that like for ringworm or 56 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:47,079 Speaker 1: for like an ear infection or something. I'm like, man, 57 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:49,520 Speaker 1: why why are you here in the middle of the night. 58 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:51,360 Speaker 1: And they're like, well, we didn't know where else to go. 59 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:55,160 Speaker 1: So when somebody that looks like me gives me some 60 00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 1: inkling that I can help them by just giving them information, 61 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:01,120 Speaker 1: I feel I needed to do something about it. So 62 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 1: I was I was married at the time, and I 63 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:05,080 Speaker 1: went to my wife and said, look, I want to 64 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:09,239 Speaker 1: start a TV show called Urban Pediatrics and then move 65 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:11,240 Speaker 1: it to urban Medicine. And I want to do it, 66 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:15,160 Speaker 1: and I want to tell people and empower people on 67 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:18,440 Speaker 1: their health because people out here are dying, you know, 68 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:22,800 Speaker 1: and inconvenicent their lives. Little things, I said. So I 69 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:25,800 Speaker 1: went to the public Access TV station in the New 70 00:03:25,880 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 1: Orleans and then and they asked me. I told them 71 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:29,239 Speaker 1: all what I wanted to do, and they said, yeah, 72 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:30,760 Speaker 1: you can do that. That'd be great for the lo 73 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:33,120 Speaker 1: lo price of three hundred dollars a month. Now, let 74 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 1: me tell you some that doesn't sound like a lot now, 75 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 1: but in nineteen ninety seven and you making twenty five 76 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 1: thousand dollars a year, that was a lot. And my 77 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:42,760 Speaker 1: wife said, you're not about to do that. I said, look, 78 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 1: this is a sacrifice we're going to have to make. 79 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 1: So I started, and I started at two o'clock in 80 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 1: the morning at on channel one hundred and ninety five. 81 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:53,400 Speaker 1: And two years later I was at six o'clock on 82 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 1: Saturday after Saturday evening afternoon on channel eight, which was 83 00:03:56,640 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 1: their number one spot. So I moved up people wanting 84 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:02,840 Speaker 1: and it was a great thing. Then right before Hurricane Katrina, 85 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 1: NBC came calling and said, we saw this show man, 86 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 1: it's really good. What we want you to put We 87 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:10,360 Speaker 1: going to put you on the network. I said, that's awesome, 88 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:14,240 Speaker 1: and then Hurricane Katrina came washed everything away. Now the 89 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 1: reason why I'm gonna get to the point real quick 90 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:18,120 Speaker 1: he is because this is like what you're talking about 91 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:20,920 Speaker 1: with the show. I had a defining moment, and people 92 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 1: will have defining moments in their lives and you got 93 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 1: to step up for them. And God will let you 94 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:28,720 Speaker 1: know when it is. After Hurricane Katrina, I lost My 95 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 1: office was fine, my house was fine, everything was fine. 96 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:35,039 Speaker 1: But I was the only doctor practice in medicine for 97 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:37,520 Speaker 1: about three months and it was these eighteen hour, twenty 98 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:40,720 Speaker 1: hour days. Was horrible. Man. But one night, about two 99 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:44,040 Speaker 1: weeks after the hurricane, NBC called me and said, can 100 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 1: you come and talk about health after Hurricane Katrina? Because 101 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 1: people are spread throughout the United States? Man, we need somebody, 102 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:52,279 Speaker 1: come on, can you do it? I was laying in 103 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:54,440 Speaker 1: my bed. It was ten o'clock at night. I was 104 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 1: tired of hell, and I was like, you know what, 105 00:04:56,400 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 1: this may be a defining moment for me. I got 106 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 1: to get up and I got it do this and 107 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:03,159 Speaker 1: I went to the TV station that night and I 108 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:08,080 Speaker 1: was on TV for one, two hundred and twenty seven 109 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:12,480 Speaker 1: consecutive nights after that, and that's when doctor Oz came calling. 110 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:15,280 Speaker 1: That's when Oprah came calling. That's when all the networks 111 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:19,760 Speaker 1: came calling. Because I was bringing edutainment but at the 112 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:22,679 Speaker 1: same time bringing that information in a way that nobody 113 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:24,960 Speaker 1: was given it at that time. So you know, that's 114 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 1: how it all happened. And then ever since then. You know, 115 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:29,640 Speaker 1: once you become that voice where people trust you, know you, 116 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:31,200 Speaker 1: you move forward, And that's what happened. 117 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:33,920 Speaker 2: Now do you just putting in the eighteen hour days 118 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:35,840 Speaker 2: and still doing TV simultaneously? 119 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 1: Oh yes, sir, yes sir, because after after that, after 120 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:42,360 Speaker 1: that hurricane. Man, look I was lucky I wasn't working 121 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:45,120 Speaker 1: twenty four hours. You know what I'm saying. 122 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:47,360 Speaker 2: You know, I bring that up, doctor you Bert, because 123 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:49,920 Speaker 2: we always talk about dreams, We always talk about commitment, 124 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:53,400 Speaker 2: We always talk about effort because everybody wants the pie, 125 00:05:53,480 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 2: but don't nobody want to make the pie. And that's 126 00:05:56,600 --> 00:05:58,960 Speaker 2: what we're talking about right here, is that you could 127 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:01,800 Speaker 2: have laid in bed and say, hey man, I'm tired, 128 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:06,039 Speaker 2: but something told you to get up, and it told you, 129 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 2: and that's called effort. 130 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:07,479 Speaker 1: That's call. 131 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:12,040 Speaker 2: Wanted to fulfill your dream through application. But then when 132 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:14,880 Speaker 2: they brought you back the next day, at what point 133 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:18,120 Speaker 2: did you in your mind you go should I stop? 134 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:20,920 Speaker 2: Should I keep doing this? Doctor Heberrow? Well, when did 135 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:23,440 Speaker 2: you do? You ever start questioning the process? Because they 136 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:26,960 Speaker 2: kept asking you day after day to continue this whole run. 137 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:29,960 Speaker 1: Yeah. Now, it's funny you would mention the word process, 138 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:31,800 Speaker 1: because I was laying in my bed just the other 139 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:35,039 Speaker 1: night and I had another defining mind. I'm telling you that. 140 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:37,960 Speaker 1: And it's been twenty some years later. This is what happened. 141 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 1: I'm trying to figure out why we can't do better 142 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 1: as a people. I'm trying to figure out why we 143 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:45,359 Speaker 1: can't get more black people into medical school. And I 144 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:49,200 Speaker 1: realized something. You know, when we were coming up, right, 145 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:51,520 Speaker 1: we had to process a lot of stuff, and we 146 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:54,039 Speaker 1: actually had to go through a process. So when you 147 00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:56,040 Speaker 1: want to go to the movies, when you were growing up, 148 00:06:56,160 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 1: you had to pick the movie, pick the movie theater, 149 00:06:58,600 --> 00:07:00,800 Speaker 1: pick the time, pick the way you get the money, 150 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:03,200 Speaker 1: pick the friends you want to go with, pick how 151 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:04,919 Speaker 1: you're gonna figure out how to get there, all this 152 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:06,480 Speaker 1: kind of stuff, and then you have to make sure 153 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:08,480 Speaker 1: you got it right, because there were no phones to 154 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:10,640 Speaker 1: contact people. So if your friends were got there and 155 00:07:10,680 --> 00:07:12,520 Speaker 1: you were later, or somebody else was late, it was 156 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:14,640 Speaker 1: just it was just a mess. So you had to 157 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:17,960 Speaker 1: figure out the process. And that's how your brain developed. Remember, 158 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:21,320 Speaker 1: our brains aren't really concrete until we're twenty five years old, 159 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:23,960 Speaker 1: so everything that your brain is still developing up until 160 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:26,040 Speaker 1: that time. If you remember, that's why you couldn't rent 161 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:27,720 Speaker 1: a car before you were twenty five years old. That's 162 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 1: where that came from anyway. So but what I realized 163 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:33,240 Speaker 1: is that these young people when they want to see 164 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:35,200 Speaker 1: a movie, what do they do? They press a button. 165 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 1: When they want some food, what do they do? Press 166 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:38,800 Speaker 1: a button? When they want to go somewhere, They press 167 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:41,560 Speaker 1: the button. Everything comes to them. Everything is on demand. 168 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:44,200 Speaker 1: So that means that their brains as they were being 169 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:48,240 Speaker 1: as their brains are being developed, then they don't understand 170 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 1: the same process that we had to go through to 171 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:56,240 Speaker 1: make things happen. But the problem is that the process 172 00:07:56,280 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 1: to be successful is old school, so the process to 173 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 1: be successful hasn't gravitated so that they can understand how 174 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:08,320 Speaker 1: to actually go through the process. So there is a 175 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:13,240 Speaker 1: disconnect and a divorce between the young brain and how 176 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:16,880 Speaker 1: to process to get through things and the old way 177 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:20,760 Speaker 1: things go to actually be successful. And until we tell 178 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 1: the young people it ain't gonna change, so you need 179 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:26,120 Speaker 1: to adapt to the process. Or we come from the 180 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:28,440 Speaker 1: top and say the process is gonna change, We're gonna 181 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:32,480 Speaker 1: have a big disconnect and these old white establishments aren't 182 00:08:32,520 --> 00:08:35,560 Speaker 1: about to change the process so young black people can 183 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:38,240 Speaker 1: can get it, So we have to educate. So my 184 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:42,520 Speaker 1: thing was, I understood the process by which I was 185 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:45,080 Speaker 1: going to become successful, and it meant showing up and 186 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 1: going somewhere to make that happen, not something coming to 187 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 1: me to make that happen. And that's what I did 188 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:53,520 Speaker 1: in that bed that night, to get up and go 189 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:56,960 Speaker 1: somewhere and keep going to meet it, not wutting it, 190 00:08:57,240 --> 00:08:59,000 Speaker 1: letting it to meet me. Come off. 191 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:02,880 Speaker 2: I'm talking to doctor Corey Abert, chief medical officer of 192 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:06,800 Speaker 2: Dealer University and an assistant professor at LSU Health Services 193 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:10,119 Speaker 2: Center and Tulane University Medical Center in New Orleans, Louisiana, 194 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:12,480 Speaker 2: e R physician for over twenty five years. So he's 195 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:15,040 Speaker 2: on the front line. But more importantly, he's one of 196 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:19,160 Speaker 2: the leading voices for sickle cell care. Docd Abert, you 197 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:21,520 Speaker 2: have a show coming out called Living Your Life as 198 00:09:21,559 --> 00:09:26,960 Speaker 2: co hosted. You co hosted with care Spaces. Why is 199 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:30,079 Speaker 2: this show important and why are you hosting it or 200 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:30,800 Speaker 2: co hosting it. 201 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:34,000 Speaker 1: The reason why is because, first of all, kid is 202 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:36,880 Speaker 1: crazy and I love kids, so we have a ball. 203 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:41,720 Speaker 1: But really, primarily what we found is that sickle cell 204 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:44,880 Speaker 1: disease in America is a disease that people don't talk 205 00:09:44,920 --> 00:09:49,560 Speaker 1: about because it affects mostly brown people. Let's be honest, right, 206 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:53,240 Speaker 1: The sickle cell was the first disease ever genetically mapped 207 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:55,880 Speaker 1: in the entire world. But we've only had three or 208 00:09:55,880 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 1: four drugs since nineteen forty to come out to try 209 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:02,200 Speaker 1: to help. And so what I noticed that everybody in 210 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:04,560 Speaker 1: America has to be tested at birth for sickle cell 211 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:07,760 Speaker 1: disease and sickle cell trade. But I started seeing that 212 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:10,080 Speaker 1: all the young women that were coming to me, and 213 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:13,280 Speaker 1: they had their babies with sickle cell disease, babies in pain, 214 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:16,120 Speaker 1: having all types of problems these new born babies. The 215 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:19,079 Speaker 1: women didn't have any idea that they had sickle cell trade. 216 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:22,720 Speaker 1: Even though the test was done on the women at birth. 217 00:10:22,960 --> 00:10:24,760 Speaker 1: So like when the best, say the lady had a 218 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 1: baby when you know she's twenty years old, that test 219 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:29,560 Speaker 1: was done, but she didn't have any idea of the results. 220 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:31,680 Speaker 1: Because when I was in medical school, it was taught 221 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:35,480 Speaker 1: that sickle cell trait actually was silent and didn't cause 222 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:38,480 Speaker 1: any problems for you. It just was if you, you know, 223 00:10:38,760 --> 00:10:40,679 Speaker 1: had sickle cell trade and you made it with somebodycycle 224 00:10:40,679 --> 00:10:43,320 Speaker 1: sell trait, your baby could have sickle cell disease. People 225 00:10:43,520 --> 00:10:45,960 Speaker 1: weren't taught that. But what we find is that, you know, 226 00:10:46,040 --> 00:10:48,439 Speaker 1: the number one cause of death in new Black military 227 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:52,320 Speaker 1: recruits was sickle cell trait up until about five years ago. 228 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:56,000 Speaker 1: And seventeen young black men have dropped dead in NCAA 229 00:10:56,040 --> 00:10:58,640 Speaker 1: sports from sickle cell trait. And if you go on 230 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:02,400 Speaker 1: a high altitude environment like an airplane that's unpressurizing the 231 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:05,560 Speaker 1: cabin or helicopter, or go hiking or skiing, or work 232 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 1: out too hard and have bone pain without getting enough hydration, 233 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:12,840 Speaker 1: you can die from sickle cell trait. And there's four 234 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:16,640 Speaker 1: million people in America with sickle cell trade, black and white, 235 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 1: and so this is a health crisis. If you don't 236 00:11:18,640 --> 00:11:20,880 Speaker 1: believe me, go to the CDC website as clear as 237 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:24,079 Speaker 1: day in block capital letters, you can die from sickle 238 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:27,000 Speaker 1: cell trade. But the problem is people in America don't 239 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:28,720 Speaker 1: even know if they have sickle cell traite because they 240 00:11:28,720 --> 00:11:31,200 Speaker 1: were taught that it wasn't a big deal. But so 241 00:11:31,280 --> 00:11:33,800 Speaker 1: that's why this is an emergency. And people are not 242 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:36,560 Speaker 1: getting care when they have sickle cell disease when they 243 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:39,320 Speaker 1: go to the er, they're not getting care. Care go 244 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:40,960 Speaker 1: to the er, and he had to wait eight hours 245 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:43,400 Speaker 1: in excruciating pain, and people thinking he's a drug seeker 246 00:11:43,640 --> 00:11:46,480 Speaker 1: because nobody knows how to treat the one hundred thousand 247 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:49,040 Speaker 1: people that have the disease that alone, the four million 248 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:51,080 Speaker 1: people that have the trade. So we got to get 249 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:53,560 Speaker 1: out there. We got to explain this to people. We 250 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:56,000 Speaker 1: got to educate them, but we got to entertain them 251 00:11:56,040 --> 00:11:59,199 Speaker 1: because that's my brand edutainment. I make you laugh, I 252 00:11:59,320 --> 00:12:01,559 Speaker 1: make you cry, but I give you information and then 253 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:03,720 Speaker 1: with that information you can do whatever you want with it. 254 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:07,200 Speaker 1: But my job is to give people information worldwide. 255 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:09,360 Speaker 2: Now that's what that's what living your life is about. 256 00:12:09,400 --> 00:12:12,199 Speaker 2: But you said something in the middle of your conversation 257 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:17,920 Speaker 2: with me about drug or people who feel drug seekerts 258 00:12:16,960 --> 00:12:21,440 Speaker 2: that that people come in there, they're in pain. They're 259 00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:24,800 Speaker 2: letting the nurse know, the doctor knows that they're in pain, 260 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:28,560 Speaker 2: but they're being labeled as people who are just there 261 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:31,640 Speaker 2: to get drugs. Explain that, well, how did that start 262 00:12:32,080 --> 00:12:34,400 Speaker 2: and why is that such a problem. 263 00:12:35,240 --> 00:12:37,880 Speaker 1: Okay, So basically what happens is when you have sickle 264 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:40,240 Speaker 1: cell disease, you have a lot of pain. You have 265 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:42,800 Speaker 1: a lot of issues when it comes to lung health, 266 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:47,520 Speaker 1: kidney health, spleen health, your vision, everything can be affected 267 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:50,000 Speaker 1: by sickle sellf disease. And when you're like a two 268 00:12:50,080 --> 00:12:52,320 Speaker 1: year old girl and you have some pain with a 269 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:54,680 Speaker 1: little pink dress on going to the er, you know, 270 00:12:54,760 --> 00:12:57,960 Speaker 1: asking for some pain medicine, everybody thinks that's cute, right, 271 00:12:58,000 --> 00:13:01,040 Speaker 1: that's cute, right, even though little kids. But when you 272 00:13:01,080 --> 00:13:04,439 Speaker 1: are a twenty five year old, six foot tall, one 273 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:07,120 Speaker 1: hundred and eighty pound person talk about you're in pain 274 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:10,480 Speaker 1: and you need some morphine, they're like, wait a minute, 275 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:12,600 Speaker 1: this ain't quell. This disease is supposed to be cured. 276 00:13:12,679 --> 00:13:15,000 Speaker 1: So people think that sickle cell disease is cured because 277 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:17,520 Speaker 1: theoretically there is a cure that for the low low 278 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:20,040 Speaker 1: price of five million dollars in about five people have 279 00:13:20,120 --> 00:13:22,240 Speaker 1: gotten it in the world since the beginning of time, 280 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:26,080 Speaker 1: So that's not a viable option right now. So people 281 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:28,280 Speaker 1: have to live with this disease and when they have pain, 282 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:31,360 Speaker 1: they have excruciating pain ten out of ten. But most 283 00:13:31,400 --> 00:13:33,720 Speaker 1: doctors have never taken care of a sickle cell patient. 284 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:36,160 Speaker 1: They don't even know what that looks like. So when 285 00:13:36,200 --> 00:13:39,120 Speaker 1: you go into an er and you are a a 286 00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:41,960 Speaker 1: an adult asking for morphine and they've never taken care 287 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:44,240 Speaker 1: of a patient like this, they think you're a drug secret. 288 00:13:44,280 --> 00:13:46,960 Speaker 1: They label you a drug seeker, and then you can't 289 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:49,360 Speaker 1: get the medicine that you need. It's a it's a 290 00:13:49,520 --> 00:13:53,160 Speaker 1: very horrible, horrible process. And then you you know, you 291 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:55,320 Speaker 1: treat like a second class citizen. It's just it's a 292 00:13:55,320 --> 00:13:57,200 Speaker 1: horrible thing. So what we have to do as a 293 00:13:57,200 --> 00:13:59,200 Speaker 1: people is we have to get our minds right and 294 00:13:59,240 --> 00:14:01,960 Speaker 1: get some legislation so we can identify people with sickle 295 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:05,520 Speaker 1: cell trade. That's the first thing. I know that. 296 00:14:05,520 --> 00:14:08,440 Speaker 2: That's I know that for a fact because I saw 297 00:14:08,480 --> 00:14:11,720 Speaker 2: it happen. And then it feels like now today that 298 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:15,440 Speaker 2: sickle cell is still on the back burner of America 299 00:14:15,520 --> 00:14:16,600 Speaker 2: and the medical minds. 300 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:21,640 Speaker 1: Is that correct? It is, and I think it's because, well, 301 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:23,960 Speaker 1: you know, things fall out of favor because you know, 302 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:26,920 Speaker 1: when it's not important to a particular group of people 303 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:30,360 Speaker 1: that has the biggest voice, then it's not really addressed. 304 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:33,360 Speaker 1: So I mean, sickle cell disease is in about one 305 00:14:33,480 --> 00:14:36,520 Speaker 1: hundred thousand people. About one hundred thousand people have that. Now, 306 00:14:36,560 --> 00:14:38,960 Speaker 1: when you look at a country with you know, two 307 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:41,920 Speaker 1: hundred three hundred million people in it, one hundred thousand 308 00:14:41,920 --> 00:14:46,040 Speaker 1: people theoretically is very small. So you know, people say, well, 309 00:14:46,680 --> 00:14:48,960 Speaker 1: it's just a rare disease, so we don't need to 310 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:51,640 Speaker 1: do all that for a rare disease. But the point is, 311 00:14:52,040 --> 00:14:54,800 Speaker 1: I don't consider it rare because it happens to my people. 312 00:14:54,880 --> 00:14:57,320 Speaker 1: That's the first thing. The second thing is that when 313 00:14:57,360 --> 00:15:00,520 Speaker 1: you start talking about four million people that have the 314 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:04,360 Speaker 1: trade that could actually have symptoms and die, then that's 315 00:15:04,440 --> 00:15:07,640 Speaker 1: not such a small number. So that's why I'm putting 316 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:10,240 Speaker 1: this on my back so that we can have that 317 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:14,160 Speaker 1: telethon again, so we can bring some more of the 318 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:17,680 Speaker 1: awareness to this disease because it's disabling. And I'm gonna 319 00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:19,640 Speaker 1: give you one step further I think it's criminal, and 320 00:15:19,640 --> 00:15:23,120 Speaker 1: that's right. I called it criminal. The fact that ninety 321 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:25,520 Speaker 1: seven percent of young black women that have a baby 322 00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:28,240 Speaker 1: with sickle cell disease, meaning that baby's going to be sick, 323 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:31,560 Speaker 1: maybe probably die early, being pain, lots of life, always 324 00:15:31,560 --> 00:15:33,800 Speaker 1: in the hospital. Ninety seven percent of these women that 325 00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:37,880 Speaker 1: have this baby had no idea that they had sickle 326 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:41,480 Speaker 1: cell trade. But the test is already done on those 327 00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:44,760 Speaker 1: women at birth. So what I'm saying is for us 328 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:47,080 Speaker 1: not to know that, and we're we're spending billions of 329 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:49,280 Speaker 1: dollars on trying to find a cure. Can we just 330 00:15:49,320 --> 00:15:52,680 Speaker 1: spend hundreds of thousands of dollars on empowering the community 331 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:55,040 Speaker 1: to know if you have trade. So maybe if you 332 00:15:55,080 --> 00:15:58,160 Speaker 1: know you know you have trade, and you meet a man, 333 00:15:58,960 --> 00:16:00,760 Speaker 1: or if you're a woman an you meet a woman 334 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 1: and you want to have a baby with them, you 335 00:16:03,920 --> 00:16:06,880 Speaker 1: should know if it's the possibility of your child could 336 00:16:06,880 --> 00:16:08,880 Speaker 1: have sickle cell disease. You might want to go ahead 337 00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:10,160 Speaker 1: and do it. You might not want to go ahead 338 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:12,160 Speaker 1: and do it, But the point is you need to 339 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 1: know because that baby is going to be a huge 340 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:18,520 Speaker 1: emotional change in your life. That baby's going to be 341 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 1: a huge financial change in your life. That baby is 342 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:23,480 Speaker 1: going to have a lot of pain and distress, and 343 00:16:23,520 --> 00:16:26,000 Speaker 1: it's like, so it's a big decision to make, but 344 00:16:26,080 --> 00:16:29,000 Speaker 1: you need to know the information. So I think that 345 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:30,480 Speaker 1: what we're trying to do here is we're going to 346 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:33,120 Speaker 1: try to get a national registry. So all of you 347 00:16:33,160 --> 00:16:36,320 Speaker 1: out there listening, if you were if you're in your forties, 348 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:39,320 Speaker 1: that test was done at birth, if you're in the 349 00:16:39,320 --> 00:16:42,120 Speaker 1: mid forties, every all the way down to just born today, 350 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:44,920 Speaker 1: that test was done on you. And you can go 351 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:46,880 Speaker 1: find the results. And if you can't find a result, 352 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:48,880 Speaker 1: you can go straight to your doctor right now and 353 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:52,240 Speaker 1: get that test redrawn, okay, and see if you have 354 00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:54,320 Speaker 1: the trade. And I think it's very very important for 355 00:16:54,360 --> 00:16:56,440 Speaker 1: you and your children to know so they can make 356 00:16:56,440 --> 00:16:57,480 Speaker 1: some informed decisions. 357 00:16:58,320 --> 00:17:01,520 Speaker 2: Well, the interesting thing about this whole conversation I'm having 358 00:17:01,560 --> 00:17:04,000 Speaker 2: with doctor Aberry is that you know, I have the 359 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:07,640 Speaker 2: sickle cell trade. My wife she had the sickle cell trade. 360 00:17:07,720 --> 00:17:09,719 Speaker 1: So you're absolutely correct. 361 00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:13,200 Speaker 2: We had we had to make a conscious decision about, 362 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:16,440 Speaker 2: you know, bringing a young child into this world. Fortunately 363 00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:20,040 Speaker 2: our child does not have sickle cell disease, and so 364 00:17:20,560 --> 00:17:23,840 Speaker 2: but that doesn't matter. You know, when my wife was pregnant, 365 00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:27,160 Speaker 2: you know, she was always fearful of that whole situation, 366 00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:30,000 Speaker 2: and then I wasn't aware of to afterwards. You know, 367 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:32,600 Speaker 2: that's a lot of stress that can be put on 368 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:35,920 Speaker 2: a couple, especially the woman in the couple in the relationship, 369 00:17:36,119 --> 00:17:38,320 Speaker 2: because all you want is a healthy child. That's do 370 00:17:38,359 --> 00:17:40,840 Speaker 2: you want that miracle? You want the five fingers on 371 00:17:40,840 --> 00:17:43,200 Speaker 2: one hand, five toes on the other. You know, ten ten, 372 00:17:43,320 --> 00:17:45,320 Speaker 2: you know that's what you want when you when you 373 00:17:45,359 --> 00:17:47,800 Speaker 2: bring a child in the world physically and then you 374 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:49,560 Speaker 2: when you slap them on the behind, you want them 375 00:17:49,600 --> 00:17:51,159 Speaker 2: to scream. You want them to be alert. 376 00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:52,240 Speaker 1: And when you have. 377 00:17:52,560 --> 00:17:56,159 Speaker 2: Sickle cell a disease, that, like you said, when it 378 00:17:56,160 --> 00:17:59,160 Speaker 2: comes into your life, it's costless, time consuming. 379 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:01,040 Speaker 1: Your child may spend. 380 00:18:00,800 --> 00:18:03,320 Speaker 2: Many hours and many days and maybe even many weeks 381 00:18:03,359 --> 00:18:06,000 Speaker 2: into the hospital or the care and they can never 382 00:18:06,119 --> 00:18:09,160 Speaker 2: live a life. But we on this show Living Your Life, 383 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:12,440 Speaker 2: the whole approach on that show is about showing people 384 00:18:12,480 --> 00:18:15,679 Speaker 2: who have the trade, people who have sickle seale disease 385 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:19,080 Speaker 2: living successful lives. Correct that it's correct. 386 00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:22,040 Speaker 1: I mean, you know there's some people that if you 387 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:25,800 Speaker 1: embrace your disease. If you do what you're supposed to do, 388 00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:28,280 Speaker 1: you should be able to live your life like like 389 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:32,760 Speaker 1: anybody else. But the problem is of the one hundred 390 00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:36,639 Speaker 1: thousand people that have this disease, we have lost meaning 391 00:18:36,720 --> 00:18:39,679 Speaker 1: loss to follow up, meaning they're just out there. We 392 00:18:39,680 --> 00:18:43,119 Speaker 1: don't know where they are. About seventy thousand of these people, 393 00:18:43,520 --> 00:18:45,800 Speaker 1: we don't know where they are because when you get older, 394 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:48,880 Speaker 1: you know, people don't if you are ashamed to have 395 00:18:48,920 --> 00:18:52,280 Speaker 1: this disease because it caused the problem in your work. 396 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:55,480 Speaker 1: Meaning if like say Care right here, who is the 397 00:18:55,520 --> 00:18:58,320 Speaker 1: cust of the show. Said, Care is an actor, right, 398 00:18:58,359 --> 00:18:59,879 Speaker 1: so if he wants to be if he wants to 399 00:18:59,880 --> 00:19:02,440 Speaker 1: be in a movie and he has to tell them 400 00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:04,000 Speaker 1: that he has sickle cell, he may not get the 401 00:19:04,040 --> 00:19:07,359 Speaker 1: part right because they're gonna say, if he gets a 402 00:19:07,359 --> 00:19:10,320 Speaker 1: sickle cell crisis in the middle of filming, then they 403 00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:13,000 Speaker 1: got to shut it down. They can't, he can't be 404 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:14,960 Speaker 1: in the movie. So that means they're losing one hundred 405 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:17,720 Speaker 1: two hundred thousand dollars a day. They'd rather do somebody else, 406 00:19:17,760 --> 00:19:21,200 Speaker 1: So that's discrimination, and then they're out there suffering in silence. 407 00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:23,879 Speaker 1: So we what we hope is that we with this show, 408 00:19:24,119 --> 00:19:27,440 Speaker 1: we bring people out because there's treatments. There's treatments now 409 00:19:27,520 --> 00:19:29,520 Speaker 1: newer treatments that can make your life a lot better. 410 00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:31,960 Speaker 1: But we got no we had to know where you are, 411 00:19:32,359 --> 00:19:33,960 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So that's what we put 412 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:35,000 Speaker 1: you know. But here's the thing. 413 00:19:35,080 --> 00:19:37,919 Speaker 2: We're talking about just America right now. Sure, a one 414 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:42,800 Speaker 2: hundred thousand, but that number swells when you get outside 415 00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:47,240 Speaker 2: of the United States. Talk about the global impact of 416 00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:52,320 Speaker 2: how sickle cell affects different countries and how different countries 417 00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:53,040 Speaker 2: are dealing with. 418 00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:57,040 Speaker 1: That as well. Yes, absolutely there are more people with 419 00:19:57,119 --> 00:20:01,240 Speaker 1: sickle cell disease in the world than in the United 420 00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:04,600 Speaker 1: States by far. Because remember this was this was something 421 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:10,280 Speaker 1: that was done. You know, this was an evolution from 422 00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:12,879 Speaker 1: the African continent. This was an evolution so that we 423 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:17,520 Speaker 1: can remember that people are dying of sickle cell or 424 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:21,040 Speaker 1: dying of malaria, and so if you developed sickle cell trade, 425 00:20:21,080 --> 00:20:24,960 Speaker 1: then you were able to survive malaria. That's where sickle 426 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:28,440 Speaker 1: cell trade camp. It was an evolution of survival. Okay, 427 00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:31,280 Speaker 1: So now what you got to remember is that the 428 00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:34,280 Speaker 1: subsherent part of Africa, that's that has that issue. But 429 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:38,879 Speaker 1: if you start going towards you know, Saudi Arabia, and 430 00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:42,280 Speaker 1: you start going towards Iraq and Turkey, all these people 431 00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:45,359 Speaker 1: are migrating from the same place, so they have more 432 00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:47,600 Speaker 1: sickle cell disease and trade over there. But the issue 433 00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:50,200 Speaker 1: is they don't have universal screening, so they're just dying. 434 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:52,800 Speaker 1: They're just living a horrible lives because they just don't 435 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:55,159 Speaker 1: even know that they have it. So that's why this 436 00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:58,640 Speaker 1: is a global issue. And so I presented this concept 437 00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:01,080 Speaker 1: at the south By south West conference. That's where a 438 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:03,919 Speaker 1: bunch of nineteen year old billionaires with hoodies go and 439 00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:05,920 Speaker 1: talk about how they can save the world right And 440 00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:08,280 Speaker 1: these dudes, when I explain to them more happening, they said, 441 00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:12,480 Speaker 1: wait a minute, we have a worldwide problem, a worldwide problem, 442 00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:15,679 Speaker 1: and we're not doing something about it because of the 443 00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:19,360 Speaker 1: lack of the aggregation of the data that already exists. 444 00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:22,959 Speaker 1: Think about that. That's criminal. We wouldn't be doing that 445 00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:24,240 Speaker 1: in any other disease. 446 00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:27,199 Speaker 2: Absolutely absolutely, And that's why I wanted to bring that 447 00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:29,240 Speaker 2: up because a lot of people look at the sickle 448 00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:32,760 Speaker 2: cell as just a black illness, a black disease, a 449 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:36,040 Speaker 2: black something to tied to our culture, but it's really 450 00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:38,399 Speaker 2: a global thing where you when you get out of 451 00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:40,920 Speaker 2: the one hundred thousand, you start going worldwide, we get 452 00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:44,000 Speaker 2: into the millions, not the one hundred thousand, not to ten, not. 453 00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:45,160 Speaker 1: Two or four people. 454 00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:48,159 Speaker 2: We go into the millions of people who are impacted 455 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:51,880 Speaker 2: or affected by sickle cell trade, which in turn leads 456 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:54,920 Speaker 2: to sickle cell disease. If the person you are happen 457 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:57,440 Speaker 2: to have a child with and y'all both have the trade, 458 00:21:57,560 --> 00:22:01,240 Speaker 2: then you can eventually lead that to one out of 459 00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:04,440 Speaker 2: four chances your child can have sickle cell disease. As 460 00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:06,879 Speaker 2: a person who has sickle cell trade, what things should 461 00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:09,440 Speaker 2: I be looking out for to make sure that I'm 462 00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:11,919 Speaker 2: living a healthy life or a long life and not 463 00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:14,000 Speaker 2: doing anything silly, doctor Abert. 464 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:16,600 Speaker 1: The first thing you need to do is you need 465 00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:19,000 Speaker 1: to make sure that you get enough sleep and get 466 00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:21,919 Speaker 1: enough water. Okay, those are the things that you just 467 00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:23,359 Speaker 1: need to do just to be helped. There. Don't care 468 00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:24,719 Speaker 1: if you have sickle cell trade or not. You just 469 00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:27,480 Speaker 1: need to get enough sleep, get enough water, and decrease 470 00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:30,359 Speaker 1: the amount of stress in your life. That's across the board, Okay, 471 00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:32,919 Speaker 1: but with somebody with sickle sell trade or disease. You 472 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:35,040 Speaker 1: need to make sure you eat well. You got to 473 00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:36,840 Speaker 1: get this processed food out of your life. You got 474 00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:39,840 Speaker 1: to eat more plants, you gotta eat more vegetables. You 475 00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:43,840 Speaker 1: gotta eat more things that are good for you and 476 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:47,440 Speaker 1: decrease some of this processed food. That's another thing. Also, 477 00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:49,399 Speaker 1: you got to listen to your body. Okay, if you 478 00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:51,399 Speaker 1: have sickle cell trades. The reason why people sickle cell 479 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:54,000 Speaker 1: trade dies not because they just all of a sudden 480 00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:56,640 Speaker 1: have this attack and fall out. That's not what happens. 481 00:22:56,880 --> 00:22:58,840 Speaker 1: They just don't know that they have sickle cell trade. 482 00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:01,800 Speaker 1: So when they're working out and they start feeling faint, 483 00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:04,720 Speaker 1: they think that that's what's supposed to happen because that's 484 00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:06,760 Speaker 1: just normal. And then they just keep pushing and pushing 485 00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:09,720 Speaker 1: and pushing, and that's when they have the problem. Right, So, 486 00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:11,600 Speaker 1: if you got to listen to your body. If you know, 487 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:14,280 Speaker 1: if you're going to a high altitude environment, if you 488 00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:15,679 Speaker 1: know you're gonna be working out a lot, and you 489 00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:17,879 Speaker 1: haven't worked out before and you start having these issues, 490 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:23,040 Speaker 1: just stop. Just stop, hydrate and rest, and then you'll 491 00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:25,720 Speaker 1: be absolutely fine. I also tell people with sickle cell 492 00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:28,680 Speaker 1: trate they probably should be taking some folate in their multivitamins. 493 00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:31,240 Speaker 1: They need to make sure that they have enough vitamins 494 00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:33,320 Speaker 1: in their body because your body to make red blood 495 00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:38,920 Speaker 1: cells needs vitamins and it needs folate folic acid, and 496 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:42,120 Speaker 1: that is in every multi vitamin. But I would say 497 00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:45,040 Speaker 1: take a little bit more because it can't hurt you, okay, 498 00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:46,800 Speaker 1: And I want you to do that. And also if 499 00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:48,479 Speaker 1: you're out there in your sickle cell disease, I really 500 00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:50,800 Speaker 1: want you to think about there's a lot of medicines 501 00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:52,879 Speaker 1: out there. There's and I need you to kind of 502 00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:55,040 Speaker 1: go and look at some of them because they're out there, 503 00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:56,800 Speaker 1: and we need you to get your get your minds 504 00:23:56,840 --> 00:23:58,840 Speaker 1: right and then come out of the out of the hiding. 505 00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:00,480 Speaker 1: We need to fix this situation. 506 00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:03,040 Speaker 2: Well, you know that it's all about information, and well 507 00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:05,000 Speaker 2: one thing on this show I try to bring information 508 00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:06,639 Speaker 2: because of the fact that this is the show I 509 00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:09,320 Speaker 2: always talk about entrepreneurship and how to succeed. But if 510 00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:12,480 Speaker 2: your health isn't right, can't fulfill your dreams. And more important, 511 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:16,119 Speaker 2: you cannot mislead yourself to believe that it's gonna be 512 00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:19,960 Speaker 2: all good because you're not ill. But certain things have 513 00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:22,680 Speaker 2: to happen that makes you successful. How can we get 514 00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:25,160 Speaker 2: in touch with you, doctor Abert? Are you on social 515 00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:27,840 Speaker 2: because I definitely want people to follow up because your 516 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:30,520 Speaker 2: cause is to provide that information. Your cause is to 517 00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:33,040 Speaker 2: make sure people live healthy lives. 518 00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:36,200 Speaker 1: That's right, And I put this kind of information out daily. 519 00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:40,240 Speaker 1: So it's at Instagram it's Corey c O r e 520 00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:43,240 Speaker 1: y h e b e r t m D, So 521 00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:46,680 Speaker 1: that's at Corey abear m D. On Twitter, it's at 522 00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:48,040 Speaker 1: Corey abear m d