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Speaker 1: What is going on everybody? John Middlecock Three and Out podcast.

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Speaker 1: That's me. That's this great show. Uh, coming to you

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Speaker 1: live kind of. I'm recording this live, but coming to

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Speaker 1: you on Draft week. The NFL is hosting the draft,

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Speaker 1: Thank you Jesus, because there's beside the MJ documentary, there's

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Speaker 1: not much going on, you know, in this quarantine life,

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Speaker 1: and I want to dive into something that if you

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Speaker 1: watch the MJ documentary, I think it was just it

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Speaker 1: was reported a little earlier before I jumped on here

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Speaker 1: that about six million people watched. Yeah, I mean it's

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Speaker 1: there's only one NBA game this year that had more viewers. Uh.

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Speaker 1: It was sweet, you know, it was really really good.

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Speaker 1: But there's something that really jumped out to me that

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Speaker 1: I think parallels what every team is ultimately looking for

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Speaker 1: on Thursday night of the Draft, the first round, the

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Speaker 1: game plan is gonna be. I'll probably uh, I have

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Speaker 1: to think about this. I probably record something late Thursday

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Speaker 1: night for early Friday morning, just kind of live reaction

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Speaker 1: to some of the draft. I have to think about

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Speaker 1: how I'm exactly gonna do it. I don't know what

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Speaker 1: through every pick, maybe pick some main stories. I don't know,

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Speaker 1: we'll uh that'll that'll be a project for me to

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Speaker 1: uh to think about all week and figure out what

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Speaker 1: we're gonna do. But we'll be live reacting to the draft.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna be live on Twitter, uh in periscope for

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Speaker 1: the entire draft. Uh, basically just live broadcast and it's

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Speaker 1: gonna look pretty sweet'll be fun. So I add John Middlecoff,

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Speaker 1: which is also my Instagram handle. I'll be live on

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Speaker 1: Twitter during the draft. Uh, just live reacting and screwing

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Speaker 1: we're gonna dive into some m J thoughts uh to

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Speaker 1: Uh to me is one of the more polarizing players

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Speaker 1: Matt some other stuff that's going around around the NFL. Uh,

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Speaker 1: And then of course Middlecoff mail back at John Middlecoff

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Speaker 1: You'll get your question right here on the show. Also,

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Speaker 1: I appreciate everyone that's gone to the H three and out,

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Speaker 1: you don't leave a little positive review. You know, we try,

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Speaker 1: we try to keep it positive during quarantine. But I

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Speaker 1: want to start with the MJ doc And I think

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Speaker 1: every sports team in a draft, especially in the first

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Speaker 1: is you're spending the most amount of money on a player.

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Speaker 1: There's a reason you don't lose that much sleep about

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Speaker 1: missing on a fifth round pick. You're not guaranteeing any cash.

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Speaker 1: It is a massive, massive acquisition for a franchise when

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Speaker 1: Bob McGinn, who I think does the best content for

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Speaker 1: the NFL draft. It's the most realistic because he's just

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Speaker 1: The majority of the guys that are gonna go in

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Speaker 1: you're talking about four guys then a two year span,

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Speaker 1: we'll all get drafted potentially in the top fifteen of

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Speaker 1: their two respected drafts. That's pretty nuts, right, I mean

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Speaker 1: Joe Burrow, Yeah, he played with the little running backs

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Speaker 1: of stud Justin Jefferson's probably a fringe first rounder. Jamar

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Speaker 1: Chase gonna go in the first round. Two have played

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Speaker 1: with four, four guys that are gonna go. Really, I

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Speaker 1: guess that might be the greatest college wide receiving class

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Speaker 1: in the history of the sport when you factor in

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Speaker 1: their draft slots. What to look back in a year,

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Speaker 1: But if you get if you tell me Judy and

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Speaker 1: Rugg both go top fifteen this year, and let's say

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Speaker 1: Waddle goes top ten and DeVante Smith goes like sixteen

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Speaker 1: next year, you get two guys let's say go eleven

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Speaker 1: and thirteen and seven and sixteen, Like that would be

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Speaker 1: the craziest for for you know, stretch of four players

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Speaker 1: probably in the history that that might never happen again.

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Speaker 1: I think that's not a criticism of Tuah, but that's

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Speaker 1: something that in draft rooms you go, well, I don't know,

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Speaker 1: our receivers relative to who we're playing in the NFL,

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00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:31,920
Speaker 1: aren't this good? They're not getting open as with as

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Speaker 1: much ease, is he gonna be able to do this?

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Speaker 1: But big picture, just for our interest us watching, I

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Speaker 1: think it makes this draft like to a being polarizing player,

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Speaker 1: makes me can't wait to watch what happens. I'm actually

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Speaker 1: expecting at this point in time for him to fall.

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Speaker 1: I I don't think again, I don't have any like

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Speaker 1: inside information. I'm just gonna go educated guests. And again

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Speaker 1: maybe I'm believing too much smoke, but I think it

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Speaker 1: gets to the point where there's enough smoke there has

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Speaker 1: to be a little fire or did if all of

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Speaker 1: a sudden. I don't think we're gonna get having Aaron

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Speaker 1: Rodgers like he would go in the twenties, but I

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Speaker 1: could see him maybe getting to the teams and either

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Speaker 1: a team taking him there a team trading up to

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Speaker 1: get him. But I think he feels like right now

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Speaker 1: from at this time last year right being a lock,

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Speaker 1: I'd say he was a lock number one overall pick

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Speaker 1: to now being a guy that might fall in the

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Speaker 1: draft like a rocket. Just it kind of wasn't make

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Speaker 1: the NFL draft a lot of fun. Okay, before we

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Speaker 1: get into the Middlecoff mail Bag, let's touch on a

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Speaker 1: couple of things. Uh, one story today, I don't even

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Speaker 1: know if it's a story. Tony Khan, the son of

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Speaker 1: Shod Khan, the guy that owns the Jaguars, so he

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Speaker 1: basically owns the team, the son of the guy that

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Speaker 1: owns the team. But when you're the the heir to

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Speaker 1: the team, it's your team too. He is a major part.

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Speaker 1: He's not technically the GM but works in the front office.

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Speaker 1: He's tweeting back and forth with Yannick in doc Way. Listen,

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Speaker 1: you know, I get Hi really mad wants to be traded.

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Speaker 1: I don't care how many times your your player that

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Speaker 1: you're about to trade tweets at. You don't tweet back

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Speaker 1: at him like the players like, I'm not judging Jonnick

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Speaker 1: in Doc Way for trying to get out of there.

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Speaker 1: The Jaguars, you could argue with the biggest joke franchise

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Speaker 1: right now in the NFL. Anytime they get a good player,

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Speaker 1: they trade him away or he wants out. Jalen Ramsey gone. Uh,

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Speaker 1: they trade about trade Yonnick and Doc Way the best

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Speaker 1: second best player they've had in the last you know,

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Speaker 1: handful of years, Leonard Fournett. Can you imagine drafting Leonard

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Speaker 1: Fournette number four overall in a draft with guys like

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Speaker 1: Christian McCaffrey, Dalvin Cook, and Alvin Kamara. Imagine looking at

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Speaker 1: yourself in the mirror as the cons and going, we

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Speaker 1: took Leonard four net. Yet nobody wants Leonard Fournett. You

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Speaker 1: know what I've heard about Leonard Fournett kind of a

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Speaker 1: pain in the ASTA coach. Not exactly Christian McCaffrey or

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Speaker 1: Dalvin Cook, doesn't exactly light up the room. You can't

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Speaker 1: trade him. He has no vow you makes too much

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Speaker 1: money between the tackle running back. I mean, he's like

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Speaker 1: a vet minimum player. I mean, he's probably better than that,

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Speaker 1: but give me a I mean, I'm so tired of

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Speaker 1: reading stories about the Jacksonville Jaguars, Like Tony the guy

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00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:15,960
Speaker 1: follows me on Twitter. I don't know him. I mean,

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00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:19,639
Speaker 1: I fall him too, But to be tweeting back and

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Speaker 1: forth with your with the guy on your own team

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00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:28,240
Speaker 1: about it's just so counterproductive, so unprofessional, so low level.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's like the team that I think about

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Speaker 1: and talk about the most. Like if John Lynch or

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00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:38,280
Speaker 1: Jed york I would eviscerate them. Can you imagine Belichick

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Speaker 1: or the Steelers or the Eagles tweeting back and forth

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Speaker 1: with the player. I mean, that's just that's embarrassing. It's

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Speaker 1: just no wonder you guys suck. The Giants leaked out

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Speaker 1: today that they're doing their due diligence on Justin Herbert,

511
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Speaker 1: like Gettleman, like I I get you wanted out there

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Speaker 1: to try to drive up some price for your pick,

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Speaker 1: but no one believes that you're gonna take Justin Herbert.

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00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:08,679
Speaker 1: You just took in one of the craziest draft day

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Speaker 1: picks in a while, probably since Blake Bortles went three

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Speaker 1: overall to of course, the crappy Jaguars. You took Daniel

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Speaker 1: Jones last year at six overall. You benched Eli Manning

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Speaker 1: for him. Eli then retired Daniel Jones as your starting

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Speaker 1: quarterback for the foreseeable future. No one believes that you

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Speaker 1: would draft Justin Herbert. Not a soul on Twitter, not

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Speaker 1: a soul in the league. Not Justin Herbert believes that

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Speaker 1: you would take him. I'm all for it, like you know,

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Speaker 1: we were were in there, like if the Lions wanted

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Speaker 1: to to leak out. You know, Stafford has been hurt,

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Speaker 1: he's getting a little older, we might take two. Uh

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Speaker 1: you know, I wouldn't like I don't know if that

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Speaker 1: adds up, but it would be somewhat believable. Nobody, and

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Speaker 1: I repeat, nobody believes the Giants would take Justin Herbert.

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Speaker 1: What I don't get about the Chargers is Anthony and

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Speaker 1: he's kind of risking his career too. Now we'll see

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Speaker 1: if when the dust settles they end up with one

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Speaker 1: of the quarterbacks. But it kind of feels that there's

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Speaker 1: a chance they don't take one of the top quarterbacks.

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00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:12,879
Speaker 1: They just taking like an offensive tackle. Anthony Lynn. He

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Speaker 1: told Peter King this and he's been saying this really

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00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:17,520
Speaker 1: since the season ended in Rivers was gonna We knew

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00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:20,080
Speaker 1: he was gonna bounce. Is that he believes Tyrod Taylor's

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Speaker 1: are starting quarterback. And Tyrod is a good guy. I

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Speaker 1: remember evaluating him when I first got into the league

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Speaker 1: and he was a backup to Joe Flacco, and I

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Speaker 1: was like, he was pretty talented and he's not a

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00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:32,960
Speaker 1: bad backup. He can win you a game or two

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Speaker 1: if he's got to be the backup, and if he's

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Speaker 1: your starter. I know he had the one year where

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Speaker 1: they made the playoffs, but they scored three points in

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Speaker 1: the playoff game. Like, he's just he's not good enough

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Speaker 1: to do anything. And if you're the Chargers with this

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Speaker 1: roster at this point in time in your franchise going

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00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:47,600
Speaker 1: into l A, like you got a chance to kind

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Speaker 1: of make some noise, Like you could win a couple

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00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:52,400
Speaker 1: of playoff games if you got some decent quarterback play.

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00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:55,959
Speaker 1: Tyrod Taylor can't be your starting quarterback, Anthony Lynn. Like

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Speaker 1: if you if you bank the farm and you go, listen, guys,

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Speaker 1: I was taken off fensive tackle, was rolling to the

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00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:03,440
Speaker 1: season with Tyrod Taylor and you go seven and nine

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00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:05,440
Speaker 1: and eight and eight with that roster, you will be

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00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:08,040
Speaker 1: fired and you will never become a head coach again

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00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:11,080
Speaker 1: because people go, you tied your wagon to Tyrod freaking

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00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:15,320
Speaker 1: Taylor again, good backup, high character guy, you know, guy

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Speaker 1: you want in your quarterback room. He's a legitimate NFL player.

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00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:20,400
Speaker 1: You know, he's probably one of the fifty best quarterbacks

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00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:23,959
Speaker 1: in the NFL. But he's not like you can't make

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00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:26,840
Speaker 1: him your starting quarterback. So either go sign cam draft

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00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:29,120
Speaker 1: a guy, but you cannot start Week one with Tyrod

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00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:32,360
Speaker 1: Taylor is your guy. It does feel like there's gonna

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Speaker 1: be some veterans traded. Uh Trent Williams, who I think

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Speaker 1: we forgot about because he literally did not play in

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Speaker 1: two thousand nineteen. I will be pretty shocked that if

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Speaker 1: on either Thursday or Friday we don't see a trade

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Speaker 1: involving Trent Williams, And it'll be fascinating. Like, if you're

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Speaker 1: a team like the Jets, would you rather just take

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00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:51,800
Speaker 1: Jerry Judy at eleven and trade a third round pick?

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Speaker 1: If you could do that for Trent Williams, like I might.

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Speaker 1: He's only thirty one years old. I might think about

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Speaker 1: doing something like that. You kind of get a double

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00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:02,760
Speaker 1: day up, you know, instead of using the pick n tackled,

577
00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:04,640
Speaker 1: like take a sweet wide receiver to go with Sam

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Speaker 1: Donald and trade for Trent Williams. Joe Thuney, are you

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Speaker 1: telling me that Belichick is gonna pay a guard fourteen

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Speaker 1: and a half million dollars? I know he franchised Logan

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00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:16,520
Speaker 1: Mankins once upon a time, and when you factor in inflation,

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Speaker 1: that would have been like two thousand and eleven. I

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Speaker 1: forget the exact number that he played for, but he was,

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Speaker 1: you know, a really really good player. I just Joe Thuney.

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Speaker 1: I can't see it. I just it's just not gonna happen.

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Speaker 1: I would expect him to be traded on either Thursday

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Speaker 1: or Friday. Andy Dalton, Uh, it's kind of a bazaar.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it felt like he was as good as

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Speaker 1: gone when the season ended and it was clear Joe

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00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:46,320
Speaker 1: Burrow was gonna go number one. But of course Mike Brown,

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Speaker 1: who I don't know if you guys saw, but they

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00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:51,920
Speaker 1: did like a mock draft in the NFL today where

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00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:54,840
Speaker 1: they ran through it to just try to go through technologically,

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00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:56,800
Speaker 1: get everyone up to speed on how its gonna work.

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Speaker 1: And there was a glitch when the when the Bengals picked.

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Speaker 1: Of course there was you know, did Brown Mike Brown's

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00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:04,160
Speaker 1: internet go out? Of course it would be the Bengals.

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00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:06,400
Speaker 1: But just trade Andy Dalton if you could just get

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Speaker 1: rid of them for like a fourth or fifth round pick,

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00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:10,400
Speaker 1: just way the white flag, move on. Signed Joe Burrow

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00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:13,320
Speaker 1: or draft Joe Burrow and just start your franchise up

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00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:15,880
Speaker 1: a new Just just do that for everybody. Why why

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00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:20,240
Speaker 1: is this always gotta be so complicated with the Bengals. Okay,

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00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:24,000
Speaker 1: let's fire into the middlecoff mail bag. See which one

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Speaker 1: of you guys send me some d m's got a

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Speaker 1: lot here. Do you think Ta is a sleeper for

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Speaker 1: the Raiders. Mike Lombardi mentioned it in his podcast, and

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00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:35,240
Speaker 1: I feel like he still knows people in the Raiders organization.

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Speaker 1: He just wouldn't say it for no reason. If the

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Speaker 1: Raiders take a quarterback, which I don't think is out

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Speaker 1: of the realm of possibility. I know Mayok and Gruden

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Speaker 1: have spoken glowingly about Car, and I don't think they

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00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:53,320
Speaker 1: don't like Car, but I don't think they love Car,

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Speaker 1: and people I know in the NFL believe that that

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Speaker 1: they're not that high on Car definitely not the way

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Speaker 1: they speak about him. I think if they go with

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Speaker 1: a quarterback, I think they go with Jordan's love, and

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00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:08,080
Speaker 1: whether that's either trading up for Jordan's love and kind

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Speaker 1: of viewing him as their Patrick Mahomes or just waiting

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Speaker 1: till twelve twelve and taking him there. Uh Now, I

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Speaker 1: don't necessarily I think it's probably you know, they pull

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00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:21,520
Speaker 1: the trigger on that. But eventually, John Gruden's gotta go.

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Speaker 1: The only way I can beat the Chiefs with a

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00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:26,600
Speaker 1: dynamic quarterback, and eventually I need to get or or

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00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:30,440
Speaker 1: maybe twelve, trade twelve and nineteen. What if John Gruden

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00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:32,960
Speaker 1: called the Detroit Lions, I'll give you twelve and nineteen

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00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:37,760
Speaker 1: for pick three. Would the Lions do that? They might,

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00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:40,160
Speaker 1: you know, I mean they get two sweet starters and

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00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:44,280
Speaker 1: John Gruden gets Justin Herbert. What do you think is

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00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:48,400
Speaker 1: the biggest scandal that isn't talked about in society or

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00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:53,400
Speaker 1: in uh in football. That's a deep question. I have

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00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:59,160
Speaker 1: to think about that. Uh, this is deepest scandal that

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00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:02,720
Speaker 1: isn't talked about. I mean there's some shady ship that

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00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:06,760
Speaker 1: goes on in America. Baby, I don't know. Over the

635
00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:09,680
Speaker 1: past several years, I heard so many cops upcoming draft

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00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:12,520
Speaker 1: quarterbacks to Alex Smith. Is it because he was drafted

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00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:14,560
Speaker 1: really high and had a good but not great career?

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00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:17,440
Speaker 1: Is it like saying, Hey, this quarterback can get you

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Speaker 1: to the playoffs, but don't expect much more after that.

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Speaker 1: That's a good question. Personal fellow cal Poly alum, I

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Speaker 1: love it. Uh. Yeah. I think it has to do

642
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Speaker 1: more with a solid athlete with an average arm And

643
00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:33,920
Speaker 1: I think a lot of guys are like that, you know,

644
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Speaker 1: solid athlete with a lot of arm, and I think

645
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Speaker 1: Alex's career speaks to the point of who's coaching you,

646
00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:46,840
Speaker 1: who's on your team is so important. When he had

647
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Speaker 1: Mike Nolan and Mike Singletary, I mean, Mike Singletary is

648
00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:54,800
Speaker 1: one of the worst coaches ever. Think about this. Mike Singletary,

649
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:57,520
Speaker 1: I'd say, is a worse coach than Jim tom Sewa.

650
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Speaker 1: Think about that. Mike Nolan was just completely over his head.

651
00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:03,040
Speaker 1: Then when you got Jim Harbor and Andy Reid, like

652
00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:05,800
Speaker 1: Alex Smith is pretty good even with Jay Gruden. I

653
00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:07,760
Speaker 1: think they were six and two before his leg fell off.

654
00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:10,879
Speaker 1: Like Alex smiths fine, you can win a lot of games,

655
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Speaker 1: Alex Smith. The reality is to win a Super Bowl,

656
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Speaker 1: you need my homes, you need Farv, you need Peyton,

657
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:19,279
Speaker 1: you need Brady. You know Eli got hot. It's just

658
00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:26,000
Speaker 1: it's just really hard to win the Super Bowl. Why

659
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Speaker 1: is there such a discrepancy between the previous NFL football

660
00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:33,360
Speaker 1: championships and Super Bowls? Why do teams only get credit

661
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Speaker 1: for Super Bowl wins? And why is that the measure

662
00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:41,960
Speaker 1: of success for a franchise. Well, I think that's the goal.

663
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Speaker 1: I mean, at the end of the day, you start

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Speaker 1: the season to win the Super Bowl like that is

665
00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:51,160
Speaker 1: the point of sports. I think sometimes we forget this

666
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Speaker 1: with the explosion of media, the bleacher reports and like

667
00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:58,120
Speaker 1: how cool all this ship is the point of sports

668
00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:01,959
Speaker 1: to win games. It's you play, as Herm Edwards said,

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Speaker 1: to win the game. I think the football championship. I'm not.

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't consider myself a football historian pre like ninety seven,

671
00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:14,120
Speaker 1: but there were two separate leagues. Was the NFL in

672
00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:16,919
Speaker 1: the NFL, So winning a Super Bowl you just had

673
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:19,640
Speaker 1: way more teams in the same league. You were competing

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Speaker 1: against the country, right, you just added, I'd have to

675
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Speaker 1: go to the Wikipedia of the of the sixty seven merger.

676
00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:28,959
Speaker 1: Probably be good quarantine experiment for me, just to read

677
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:32,520
Speaker 1: some history books on the NFL. But the league morst.

678
00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:35,880
Speaker 1: So you're beating everybody right the when the NFL and

679
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:38,200
Speaker 1: an f L merged, I think that's why super Bowls

680
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Speaker 1: are so highly thought of. But winning championships is the

681
00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:47,440
Speaker 1: goal because foot pro football is a business. But if

682
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Speaker 1: you win and win championships, you make more money. Look

683
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Speaker 1: at the most successful franchises and the ones that make

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00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:58,479
Speaker 1: the most money. Yankees twenty seven championships, Lakers. I don't

685
00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:00,840
Speaker 1: know the exact numbers too many. It's like eighteen or

686
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Speaker 1: twenty or whatever it is. It's a lot. Patriots most

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Speaker 1: successful team the last decade or two decades, six six

688
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Speaker 1: super Bowls. Look at the other big teams in the league.

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Speaker 1: The Niners they got five, the Steelers. The Packers have

690
00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:16,359
Speaker 1: been to a bunch and you know, have a long

691
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Speaker 1: history of winning. Like, the whole point is to win.

692
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Speaker 1: The MJ documentary, the Bulls won six championships and eight years, right,

693
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Speaker 1: the Warriors became this big deal they won three and

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Speaker 1: five years. I just think it's measured because that's the

695
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Speaker 1: whole goal of everything. Like we're trying to be a champion.

696
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Speaker 1: Whether you coach high school football, whether you coach college football,

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00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:39,600
Speaker 1: the goal is to win, win every game, and if

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Speaker 1: you win every game, you're gonna win a championship. And

699
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:44,720
Speaker 1: I mean, you don't necessarily have to win every game.

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Speaker 1: But like this was the L. S. Hughes most successful

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Speaker 1: season of all time. They want fifteen and O. They

702
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:53,719
Speaker 1: beat the crap out of everybody. They shattered records. To me,

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Speaker 1: that's the point of sports. Appreciate all the content you

704
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Speaker 1: guys are turning out. I'm a bit torn on the

705
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Speaker 1: Niners upcoming draft and can see both sides of the argument,

706
00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:05,759
Speaker 1: but would love to get your take. On one hand,

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00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:07,959
Speaker 1: the absence of a pick and rounds two through four

708
00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:10,840
Speaker 1: make all the talk about trading down at least once

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Speaker 1: in round one logical. The more swings you can take

710
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:16,040
Speaker 1: throughout the better. With that being said, this roster is

711
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Speaker 1: dramatically different spot now than it was three years ago.

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Speaker 1: From a depth standpoint, there's no way they are gonna

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Speaker 1: be five or six plus rookies that are gonna be

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Speaker 1: able to make the team. So with that, I think

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Speaker 1: you could lean towards the quality over quantity theory and

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Speaker 1: the argument of retaining those premium picks at thirteen and

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Speaker 1: thirty one. Any thoughts I agree with you At thirteen?

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00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:38,560
Speaker 1: I think I saw John Lynch spoke today to the

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Speaker 1: media and he said they have six or seven players

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Speaker 1: that they have no problem taking at their team. I

721
00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:47,960
Speaker 1: think it's pretty easy to theorize who those guys are, right,

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Speaker 1: Probably Judy Rugs, C. J Henderson, Uh, I guess maybe

723
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Speaker 1: Xavier McKinney. I could see them like in him a lot.

724
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Speaker 1: I saw that Quas Guitard, who's going into last year

725
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:04,399
Speaker 1: of his contract, might be in the trading block, maybe

726
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Speaker 1: like a Javon Kin law. You know that there's a

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Speaker 1: group of guys that are worth taking at thirty one.

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Speaker 1: It's a little risk here because you're paying first round

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Speaker 1: money for a guy that you might not have graded

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Speaker 1: in the first round. So I got no problem taking

731
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Speaker 1: thirty one. Now, I don't like going far, but going

732
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Speaker 1: to thirty one to forty because the other thing at

733
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Speaker 1: forty is you get a cheap asset. And part of

734
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Speaker 1: this team is they got expensive players. Right, Armstead makes

735
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:30,200
Speaker 1: a lot before it makes a lot. McGlinchey is about

736
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Speaker 1: to get paid, not too much, but he'll get a

737
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Speaker 1: contract extension. Fred Warner is gonna get paid next year.

738
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Speaker 1: Jimmy Ward just got paid. Bosa means the number two

739
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Speaker 1: overall picking the draft makes good money. Jimmy makes a

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Speaker 1: lot of money. Uh, They're gonna need to buy some

741
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Speaker 1: players next year in free agency. Richard Sherman is gonna

742
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Speaker 1: be a free agent after this season. So I part

743
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Speaker 1: of part of building a football team, even when you're

744
00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:58,160
Speaker 1: the roster looks as deep as the Niners help. Robbie

745
00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:00,360
Speaker 1: Gold makes like five million dollars a year. He's kicker,

746
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:04,920
Speaker 1: so you do have to plan big picture, and the

747
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:07,640
Speaker 1: finances play such a big part in it. But I agree.

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Speaker 1: I don't think the Niners need like ten picks, but

749
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Speaker 1: I would use thirteen on a player given that group

750
00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:17,640
Speaker 1: of players, whatever that is, the guys they like, and

751
00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:19,880
Speaker 1: I have no problem taking one at thirty one, but

752
00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:23,120
Speaker 1: I feel better about taking John Snyder says it great

753
00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:27,000
Speaker 1: every year, like no team has thirty two first rounders

754
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Speaker 1: on their big board. Usually in a good draft it's

755
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:31,840
Speaker 1: like low twenties. In a shitty draft, it's like fifteen,

756
00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:35,960
Speaker 1: but it's never thirty one. So getting from thirty one

757
00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:39,359
Speaker 1: to like thirty six is a huge difference in how

758
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:42,680
Speaker 1: much money you pay a player. That that to me

759
00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:46,640
Speaker 1: is a huge factor. Any idea what the Jets to

760
00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:49,040
Speaker 1: do with Jamal Adams if they use him as trade bait,

761
00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:51,440
Speaker 1: what would he reason? What would a reasonable hall be?

762
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:53,919
Speaker 1: And if they resign him, what contract is the top

763
00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:56,560
Speaker 1: tier safety deserve to get. I think the problem with

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Speaker 1: Jamal Adams. I'm a big Jamal Adams fan because I

765
00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:01,680
Speaker 1: don't think you'd call him a great cover safety. He's

766
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Speaker 1: a monster in the box. He's like a more fluid

767
00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:08,560
Speaker 1: Cam Chancellor, but What made Cam Chancer great is he

768
00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:11,000
Speaker 1: had Earl Thomas, Richard Sherman, Bobby Wagner and in a

769
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Speaker 1: sweet defensive line. The Jets have none of that. So

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Speaker 1: you draft him six overall and then he's really good.

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Speaker 1: You can't just give him away for like pick twenty four.

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Speaker 1: But who's trading a lot for Jamal Adams and then

773
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Speaker 1: having to pay him? I think you're getting this tricky

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Speaker 1: situation where it doesn't really behoove you to trade him now.

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Speaker 1: I would trade him for like a first and a

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Speaker 1: second round pick. I don't know if anyone teams given

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Speaker 1: that up. I think a lot of teams like the twenties,

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Speaker 1: Like if I'm the Niners, i'ld give thirty one for

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Speaker 1: him right now. But I don't think the Jets wouldn't

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Speaker 1: do that. What are you gonna pay him? You know?

781
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Speaker 1: Are you gonna pay him fifteen sixteen million dollars a year?

782
00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:50,880
Speaker 1: Like eventually he'll get that. I think it's just a

783
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Speaker 1: very tricky situation. I don't know if there's a right

784
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Speaker 1: or wrong answer. I do know this Jamal Adams, I

785
00:40:56,600 --> 00:40:59,680
Speaker 1: know he hasn't won, but it's not his fault. Good

786
00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:02,759
Speaker 1: team can win with Jamal Adams. Like, winning teams will

787
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:06,440
Speaker 1: like Jamal Adams, Like if I was I don't know

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Speaker 1: the the you know, I'm trying to think like the Packers,

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Speaker 1: would they take Jamal Adams, put them with Savage actually

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00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:16,680
Speaker 1: Savage probably strong safety too. The Patriots, I mean they

791
00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:18,680
Speaker 1: got a couple of safeties. Yeah, I mean maybe it's

792
00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:21,880
Speaker 1: the Jets would never trade him there. It'd probably be

793
00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:23,920
Speaker 1: a little more complicated to trade him than just like, oh,

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Speaker 1: Jamal Adams is sweet, because he is sweet, but it's

795
00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:28,600
Speaker 1: it's easier said than done to move on a player

796
00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:33,160
Speaker 1: like that. Hey, John recently started my own football podcast.

797
00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:35,000
Speaker 1: Do you have any tips for a beginner? Thanks so

798
00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:37,560
Speaker 1: much the three our podcast and Hayramin and Milk Coff.

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00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:40,719
Speaker 1: I appreciate it. Yeah. My my advice would just be

800
00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:43,520
Speaker 1: trying different things out. You know, I always gotta be evolving,

801
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:46,160
Speaker 1: But the faster you just start recording stuff and putting

802
00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:48,279
Speaker 1: it out and just trying to push it, trying to

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00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:51,440
Speaker 1: get people to listen. You know, I I had built

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00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:53,880
Speaker 1: in advantages when I got in the podcast game. First,

805
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:56,480
Speaker 1: when me and Guy started our other podcast, we had

806
00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:58,279
Speaker 1: a radio show for four years, so we had a

807
00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:01,719
Speaker 1: built in audience, and then this I had Colin, so

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Speaker 1: I've never I mean, I've started podcasts from scratch, but

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00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:09,520
Speaker 1: I had built in audiences, so I I don't. And

810
00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:11,080
Speaker 1: then you're just always trying to grow it, trying to

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Speaker 1: do good content. You know, I'm not that controversial, like

812
00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:17,640
Speaker 1: I'm not saying crazy things trying to get people to

813
00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:19,680
Speaker 1: go viral. I just try to do a good podcast

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00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:22,239
Speaker 1: and people like it. Now. Obviously I try to pick

815
00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:24,440
Speaker 1: the right topics and I tried to be entertaining, but

816
00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:27,120
Speaker 1: just just do a good show. And I think if

817
00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:29,799
Speaker 1: you do a good show, people will find you eventually.

818
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:31,800
Speaker 1: But it's if you're starting from scratch, would be a

819
00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:34,520
Speaker 1: little difficult. But the faster you can get content out there,

820
00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:38,560
Speaker 1: the better. I know. The Bucks are in win now mode.

821
00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:40,839
Speaker 1: But if Jordan's Love falls of them, does it make

822
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Speaker 1: sense for them to draft him and try to trade

823
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Speaker 1: for Trent Williams. If he falls them in the second round,

824
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Speaker 1: I can't take him and pick four teen. To me

825
00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:51,000
Speaker 1: a pick four team, you take a defensive difference maker,

826
00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:55,239
Speaker 1: you take an offensive line uh difference maker. You can't

827
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Speaker 1: take Jordan's Love now. I think if you're in Jason

828
00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:01,320
Speaker 1: Light's position as the general manager. You know, it's you

829
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:03,400
Speaker 1: always gotta be thinking big picture. But the moment you

830
00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:06,160
Speaker 1: signed Tom Brady, the goal is to make the Super Bowl.

831
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Speaker 1: This year, the goal is to win the NFC, not

832
00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:09,920
Speaker 1: just to make the playoffs, but to win the NFC,

833
00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:12,239
Speaker 1: because that's gonna be Tom's goal, That's gonna be Bruce

834
00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:16,439
Speaker 1: Arian's goal to win the NFC. So I think that's

835
00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:21,000
Speaker 1: what complicates the situation. But yeah, I mean, if if

836
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Speaker 1: they don't take a tackle at fourteen, I have no

837
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:28,959
Speaker 1: problem trading for Trent Williams. Uh avid New York Giant

838
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:31,560
Speaker 1: fan in Arizona. I happen to think Joe Judges building

839
00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:34,120
Speaker 1: the team the right way and think has added certain

840
00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:38,080
Speaker 1: fits for for free agents other than Colton McCoy. I'm satisfied.

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Speaker 1: What do you think. I'm trying to think, Well, Joe

842
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Speaker 1: Judge is in charge of free agency. They did have

843
00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:49,520
Speaker 1: James Bradberry, the corner from the Panthers, but that's who

844
00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:52,960
Speaker 1: drafted him, Dave Gettleman. I'm trying to think up top

845
00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:55,280
Speaker 1: of my head who else did they signed. I'll be honest,

846
00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:58,560
Speaker 1: I'm not I think the Giants are always away I mean,

847
00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:01,920
Speaker 1: I think they got a little wasted. Oh uh. To me,

848
00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:05,160
Speaker 1: the key for anything is gonna be Daniel Jones. If

849
00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:08,520
Speaker 1: he is a top twelve thirteen quarterback in the NFL,

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Speaker 1: they got a chance to turn it around relatively fast.

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Speaker 1: I'd say realistically in two thousand, twenty seven wins would

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Speaker 1: be a good year for Joe Judge and the Giants,

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Speaker 1: and more than likely they don't win seven games. The

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Speaker 1: other big question marks when's the last time Jason Garrett

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Speaker 1: called place? Jesson Garrett is Joe Judge's offensive coordinator. Is

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Speaker 1: he just gonna run some dynamic offense? And he's got

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Speaker 1: to say, kwan, I guess I might trade Evan Ingram.

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Speaker 1: Daniel Jones will say they draft a offensive lineman with

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Speaker 1: pick four. Overall, they got golden Tate, They got ways

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Speaker 1: to go. Man. I had a question for the middlecouth

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Speaker 1: mail back. How come the Cowboys won't just let Dak

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Speaker 1: test test the open market and match whatever deal the

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Speaker 1: other team gives them. There's no way in hell another

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Speaker 1: team gives him thirty million at most. Especially now. I

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Speaker 1: think the problem with that line of thinking, even though

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Speaker 1: I don't necessarily disagree, is that the moment you do it,

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Speaker 1: you're basically just waving the middle finger at him. Even

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Speaker 1: though it's just smart business, you don't really treat your

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Speaker 1: quarterback like that, and I think Dak would go, well,

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Speaker 1: you didn't make Dak do that. You didn't really, I

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Speaker 1: guess you kind of made a Mari do that, but

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Speaker 1: you still gave him sixty million dollars. Now, I know

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Speaker 1: Ron Rivera has gone on a record like they tried

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Speaker 1: to sign a Mari. So maybe they did get the

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Speaker 1: price driven up, but they didn't make Zach or did

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Speaker 1: Zeke do that. They didn't make uh Jalen Smith last

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Speaker 1: year do that. They didn't make DeMarcus Lawrence hit free agency.

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Speaker 1: I think making Dak a free agency when he's your

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Speaker 1: quarterback just you can make things a little tricky and

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Speaker 1: emotional though, and now he's got nowhere to go. But

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Speaker 1: if you had done that in free agency, as a

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Speaker 1: wise man once told me, if you let a player

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Speaker 1: hit free agency, you have to be prepared for him

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Speaker 1: not coming back. And for the Cowboys clearly don't want

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Speaker 1: to give him thirty five million dollars a year. Don't

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Speaker 1: blame him at all, but they were not prepared to

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Speaker 1: lose Dak Prescott, reason why they franchised him, and that's

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Speaker 1: why they're at where they're at, and now they're just

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Speaker 1: too too late in the process. You're just gonna play,

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Speaker 1: probably on the franchise tag if they don't get a

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Speaker 1: contract extension. Okay, I guess the next time I talked

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Speaker 1: to you will be the Friday after the NFL Draft again.

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Speaker 1: I will be on Twitter in periscope during the draft

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Speaker 1: from five to late thirty or whenever the drafts going

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Speaker 1: on at John Middlecoff my Twitter account, same as my

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Speaker 1: Instagram account, be on live for three and a half

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Speaker 1: hours b s and talking about all sorts of crap,

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Speaker 1: So find me there. Hope everyone's staying safe and looking

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Speaker 1: forward to talk to you guys soon