1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,400 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and buck 2 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:05,640 Speaker 1: Sexton Show PODCASTO. 3 00:00:06,040 --> 00:00:09,600 Speaker 2: Welcome man our number three Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. 4 00:00:09,680 --> 00:00:12,799 Speaker 2: Appreciate all of you hang out with us as we 5 00:00:13,400 --> 00:00:15,960 Speaker 2: polish off third hour of the program. Encourage you guys 6 00:00:15,960 --> 00:00:20,600 Speaker 2: to go download the iHeartRadio app. You can listen to 7 00:00:20,760 --> 00:00:24,120 Speaker 2: this show any many other shows all over the country, 8 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:26,119 Speaker 2: all around the world. Encourage you to go download the 9 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:29,480 Speaker 2: Clay Travis buck Sexton Podcast. As many of you are 10 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 2: in the tune of fifteen million plus of you every 11 00:00:34,040 --> 00:00:38,040 Speaker 2: single month listening to this on podcast. And we're joined 12 00:00:38,080 --> 00:00:42,320 Speaker 2: now by Senator Ran Paul, who I think understands the 13 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:45,600 Speaker 2: first of it ment interplay with the government censorship and 14 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:49,279 Speaker 2: its impact better than almost anyone out there in the 15 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:53,240 Speaker 2: in Congress today. And I'll begin this by having a discussion. 16 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:55,480 Speaker 2: I bet you remember this, Senator, Thanks for taking the 17 00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:58,840 Speaker 2: time with us. You did an interview with us about 18 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:02,320 Speaker 2: COVID back in twenty twenty one. I believe a couple 19 00:01:02,320 --> 00:01:06,280 Speaker 2: of years ago everything you said ended up being true. 20 00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:10,840 Speaker 2: You are, of course a doctor as well. YouTube refused 21 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:13,880 Speaker 2: to allow that interview to be shared. In fact, it 22 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:16,840 Speaker 2: was in twenty twenty two as part of the preliminary 23 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:18,640 Speaker 2: for you when you were running. 24 00:01:18,319 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 3: For re election in Kentucky. 25 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:23,200 Speaker 2: They took down that interview and refused to allow it 26 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 2: to be shared because it was considered. 27 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:26,680 Speaker 3: To be misinformation. 28 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:29,280 Speaker 2: That, to me, is a perfect example of one of 29 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:32,200 Speaker 2: the things that you're trying to address with your new legislation. 30 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:34,880 Speaker 2: But you can probably take a victory lap now because 31 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:38,520 Speaker 2: almost everything you said about COVID has ended up being true. 32 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 2: And that's why the first amendments so important, so that 33 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:43,720 Speaker 2: we can have a true marketplace of ideas and end 34 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:47,319 Speaker 2: up with the right outcome, meaning the one that is 35 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:50,280 Speaker 2: more likely to be true, more widely distributed. 36 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 4: She would be bad enough if this was YouTube alone, 37 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:56,120 Speaker 4: just a private company on their own decided that they 38 00:01:56,120 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 4: were left wing and going to censor any kind of 39 00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:01,440 Speaker 4: conservative's opinion. But it turns out it's worse than that. 40 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 4: It's the government, the FBI, the Department of Homeland Security. 41 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:09,400 Speaker 4: Biden apparachicks Bien associates meeting with big tech on a 42 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 4: davy basis and getting together sometimes fifty eighty FBI agents 43 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:16,360 Speaker 4: and government agents all in one room with big tech 44 00:02:16,760 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 4: and telling them take this down or else, take this down, 45 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:22,919 Speaker 4: or we'll sue you for anti trust. Take this down, 46 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:25,880 Speaker 4: or we'll take away your liability protections. Take this down, 47 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:28,920 Speaker 4: or we'll take this to the very highest point of 48 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:31,640 Speaker 4: the White House, meaning the President. They have all of 49 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 4: these threats recorded, and then we really are talking about 50 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:37,120 Speaker 4: a First Amendment case because now we're talking about the 51 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:41,680 Speaker 4: government threatening social media and telling them to take down material. 52 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:44,640 Speaker 4: With the Twitter files, we learned that not only did 53 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:47,840 Speaker 4: the FBI threaten Twitter to take things down, they would 54 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:49,840 Speaker 4: tell Twitter said, well, we'll take it down, but it's 55 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:51,799 Speaker 4: a lot of work. So the FBI said, we'll pay you. 56 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:54,280 Speaker 4: So now we have the government paying Twitter to take 57 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 4: down speech. This court case that Eric Smith, the Senator 58 00:02:58,040 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 4: from Missouri, started and just came out of a district 59 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:05,280 Speaker 4: court recently is just amazing that there's an injunction now 60 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 4: that forbids the FBI from meeting with the White House 61 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 4: to discuss removing politically or constitutionally protected speech. Interestingly, that 62 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:17,400 Speaker 4: injunction by the judge is almost identical to what our 63 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:19,280 Speaker 4: bill does. We've been working on this for a year 64 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:21,919 Speaker 4: from that angle. The angle is that we don't think 65 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:24,799 Speaker 4: we really do have the power to regulate Twitter or YouTube, 66 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:27,239 Speaker 4: but we have the power to regulate who the FBI 67 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:29,240 Speaker 4: meets with and what the FBI does to try to 68 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:31,520 Speaker 4: limit constitutionally protected speech. 69 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:35,120 Speaker 5: So what will that look like, Sunder Paul in practice? 70 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 5: If the bill that you want put forward here becomes law, 71 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 5: which we got Joe Biden as president, so obviously there's 72 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 5: some hurdles here, but it will be a good thing, 73 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 5: certainly to address an adopt for twenty twenty four as well. 74 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 5: What would it actually look like because right now the 75 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 5: FBI is playing this game. We've seen some of the 76 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:56,760 Speaker 5: testimony on Capitol Hill. They say, well, you know, we'll 77 00:03:56,760 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 5: abide by it, but you get the sense that they're 78 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:01,520 Speaker 5: going to try to find ways around it. 79 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 4: You know, ultimately it's going to take a new president, 80 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:07,200 Speaker 4: a new Attorney General, and someone who cares about speech. 81 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:10,400 Speaker 4: But short of that, our bill requires that people will 82 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 4: be fired. There's a punishment for people who do this. 83 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:16,599 Speaker 4: It also gives a private right of action. So the 84 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 4: interview that I did with you that they took down, 85 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:21,039 Speaker 4: we now would have a private right of action to 86 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:24,160 Speaker 4: sue the government for limiting our speech, and we'll be 87 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:27,120 Speaker 4: able to the presumption is ours and the government has 88 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:31,160 Speaker 4: to defend that in court, so that adds some ability 89 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:34,520 Speaker 4: to complain about this. But ultimately, if they adhere to 90 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 4: the law as written, they will have to fire people. 91 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:39,680 Speaker 4: So if you're a mid level FBI agent and you're 92 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:42,320 Speaker 4: going over there and doing this, you have to realize 93 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 4: that the law says that you will be fired. Most 94 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:46,800 Speaker 4: people want a career in the FBI, so they've been 95 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:49,000 Speaker 4: doing this and they're not. You know, they lose their pension, 96 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:51,240 Speaker 4: all kinds of stuff that they're fired. There will be 97 00:04:51,320 --> 00:04:53,920 Speaker 4: a big disincentive for them to do this. But the 98 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 4: only way this ultimately happens and the only way it 99 00:04:56,279 --> 00:04:58,880 Speaker 4: ever passes, and we've got to get Democrats on board. 100 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:02,480 Speaker 4: I'm talking with some now. Democrats once upon the time 101 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:05,240 Speaker 4: were better defenders of the First Amendment than Conservatives, maybe 102 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:08,160 Speaker 4: thirty forty years ago. But in the last decade or 103 00:05:08,200 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 4: two this is switched and we're having trouble fighting Democrats 104 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:13,080 Speaker 4: who are concerned about the First Amendment. They say, well, 105 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:16,200 Speaker 4: we're for protecting speech unless we disagree with it, which 106 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 4: is a ridiculous notion of the First Amendment. 107 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:22,239 Speaker 2: I think that's so important, and I'll reiterate for everybody 108 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:24,520 Speaker 2: out there listening, And I bet you remember this, Senator Paul, 109 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 2: because you're a consistent application of principles is one of 110 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 2: the reasons people in Kentucky keep sending you back. 111 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 3: But it wasn't that long ago. 112 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:36,120 Speaker 2: Bill Maher got fired for saying that the people who 113 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:38,000 Speaker 2: flew into the nine to eleven in the nine to 114 00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:41,600 Speaker 2: eleven terrorist attack were not cowards. And he wasn't saying 115 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:43,800 Speaker 2: they were good people. He was just saying, by definition, 116 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 2: if you're willing to die for what you believe in, 117 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:49,240 Speaker 2: you're not a coward. He got canceled, he lost his show. 118 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:54,200 Speaker 2: Now Democrats twenty years later are actually in a position 119 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:58,600 Speaker 2: where they are the censorious culture. So do you foresee 120 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:01,640 Speaker 2: being able to get any Democrat support? Because I'll be 121 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:04,240 Speaker 2: honest with you, I love everything you're saying about this Bill. 122 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:07,560 Speaker 2: I can't imagine Joe Biden signing it, and sadly, I 123 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:10,159 Speaker 2: can't even imagine very many Democrats coming out in favor 124 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:10,359 Speaker 2: of it. 125 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 4: We've I'm working on one particular senator. I'm not going 126 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:16,680 Speaker 4: to name him today, one Democrat senator, and we're going 127 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:18,280 Speaker 4: to be meeting with him in the next week or two. 128 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:20,960 Speaker 4: I'll have more information. If I can't get him, I 129 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:23,240 Speaker 4: probably can't get anybody. But if I get him, there's 130 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:25,680 Speaker 4: a possibility we can get a few others. There are 131 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:28,800 Speaker 4: a few progressives on the House side Roe Conna comes 132 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:31,880 Speaker 4: to mind who have indicated that they are concerned about 133 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:34,839 Speaker 4: the government meeting and limiting speech. And really, if you 134 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:37,840 Speaker 4: defend the First Amendment, it's never been about defending the speech. 135 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:39,839 Speaker 4: If you look at some of the most first famous 136 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 4: First Amendment cases, they're usually about despicable people saying despicable things. Right. 137 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:48,400 Speaker 4: First Amendments about protecting people who say things that are 138 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:52,120 Speaker 4: rotten and unacceptable. But it's about defending speech because once 139 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:54,839 Speaker 4: you limit the rotten speech that you don't like, the 140 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:57,039 Speaker 4: next thing is, well, let's limit the people from the 141 00:06:57,080 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 4: other party. They just don't know what they're talking about. 142 00:06:59,800 --> 00:07:03,400 Speaker 4: And what it does is it limits the discovery of truth. 143 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:07,240 Speaker 4: Truth is discovered through disputation in court cases, but also 144 00:07:07,279 --> 00:07:10,400 Speaker 4: in science. People don't realize they think that there's like 145 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 4: scientific consensus and facts. No science is being disputed every 146 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:16,960 Speaker 4: day at meetings. If you present a paper in a meeting, 147 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 4: they say, well, your age group was skewed or your 148 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 4: control group was inadequate, where you didn't have enough subjects, 149 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:26,600 Speaker 4: or your statistical analysis isn't true. These debates happen every 150 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:29,880 Speaker 4: day and every paper is disputed. Even Einstein said that 151 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:33,800 Speaker 4: he was only one experiment away from being disproven. All 152 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 4: the time he had proved things from his point of view, 153 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:39,240 Speaker 4: but it's always about the next person. I mean, Einstein 154 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:43,920 Speaker 4: basically changed the whole world of physics beyond Newtonian physics, 155 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:45,920 Speaker 4: and that was a huge deal. But it took a 156 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:48,920 Speaker 4: long time for people to accept that. And it's the 157 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:53,040 Speaker 4: way it always is. Science moves forward through disputation, and 158 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:55,800 Speaker 4: people who say there's a scientific consensus don't know anything 159 00:07:55,840 --> 00:07:58,720 Speaker 4: about science. But there's real danger to that. So we 160 00:07:58,760 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 4: live in the world now where most of the major 161 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:03,720 Speaker 4: networks won't have me on unless I will bend down 162 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 4: and kiss the ring and say that man is causing 163 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:09,400 Speaker 4: climate change. If I won't do that, or if I 164 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:12,120 Speaker 4: want to dispute that, I'm not an acceptable person, and 165 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:15,080 Speaker 4: ideally they would take that down. That was the predicate. 166 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 4: That was the beginning, was the global change consensus, which 167 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:21,840 Speaker 4: became a media consensus, which became a stifling of other opinions. 168 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:25,520 Speaker 4: Then it became the COVID consensus, and so this is 169 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:28,440 Speaker 4: a real danger of allowing anybody to believe that there's 170 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:31,400 Speaker 4: a consensus of truth, but it's going to be arbitrated 171 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:35,360 Speaker 4: and dispensed by government, and that's a real problem for 172 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:36,240 Speaker 4: a free society. 173 00:08:36,960 --> 00:08:40,440 Speaker 5: Speaking to Senator Paul of Kentucky, Senator, I'm sure you've 174 00:08:40,440 --> 00:08:42,560 Speaker 5: seen a lot of the back and forth last couple 175 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:49,000 Speaker 5: of days over the requests to have Ukraine join NATO. 176 00:08:49,520 --> 00:08:54,560 Speaker 5: The possibility of Ukraine joining NATO, there's some dispute as 177 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:56,680 Speaker 5: to well, first of all, whether it will happen, but 178 00:08:56,760 --> 00:08:59,360 Speaker 5: also the timing of it. For a lot of us 179 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:02,760 Speaker 5: who have been skeptical of some of the official narrative 180 00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:07,440 Speaker 5: of US backing of the Zelensky government the way that 181 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:10,120 Speaker 5: it has to the extent that it has, without preconditions 182 00:09:10,120 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 5: and without setting parameters, this seems pretty unsettling, because the 183 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:18,280 Speaker 5: whole problem with Russia is really a function of whether 184 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:20,720 Speaker 5: or not Ukraine would ever be in NATO. What do 185 00:09:20,760 --> 00:09:21,600 Speaker 5: you make of all this. 186 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:26,760 Speaker 4: Spring country, a country that's already at war with Russia 187 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:29,480 Speaker 4: into NATO would be a vote to expand the war 188 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:33,280 Speaker 4: directly to us, most people believe, and look at the 189 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:35,599 Speaker 4: NATO Charter and say we're going to defend any of 190 00:09:35,640 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 4: these countries. And they believe that the power of the 191 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 4: Charter is in that application. That it was not going 192 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 4: to be applied, the Charter would lose its power. So 193 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:46,520 Speaker 4: if you vote to put Ukraine in NATO, you're voting 194 00:09:46,520 --> 00:09:48,520 Speaker 4: to send our young men and women to Ukraine. There's 195 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:51,240 Speaker 4: no ifs, hands or butts about it. This is also 196 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:56,040 Speaker 4: why the sort of idea of pushing and pushing and 197 00:09:56,080 --> 00:09:58,920 Speaker 4: pushing to put them in in some ways has led 198 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:02,199 Speaker 4: Putin to be occupied parts of Georgia and Ukraine, because 199 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:04,920 Speaker 4: he now knows that it's a deterrent to putting him 200 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 4: in NATO if he occupies him, and the war has 201 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:10,000 Speaker 4: already existed. So it actually probably in some ways speeds 202 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:13,640 Speaker 4: up the timetable. Doesn't justify nothing justifies what he's done, 203 00:10:13,880 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 4: but it speeds up that timetable because you know, other 204 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:22,360 Speaker 4: than some sort of radical voices like Lindsey Graham agitating 205 00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 4: to this, most of the more reasonable voices up here, 206 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:28,120 Speaker 4: even though they love expanding NATO, aren't willing to do 207 00:10:28,160 --> 00:10:29,200 Speaker 4: it in the middle of a war. 208 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:32,760 Speaker 2: We just had an interesting conversation we're playing some of 209 00:10:32,760 --> 00:10:36,360 Speaker 2: the clips from RFK Junior last night, I believe with 210 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:40,080 Speaker 2: Jesse Waters on Fox News, I'm curious what you think 211 00:10:40,160 --> 00:10:43,679 Speaker 2: about what he's saying about COVID, big pharma in general, 212 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:48,520 Speaker 2: based on your background as a doctor, and are you 213 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:52,440 Speaker 2: surprised that he's the only Democrat by and large who's 214 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:55,800 Speaker 2: willing to raise many of these issues associated with COVID, 215 00:10:55,840 --> 00:11:00,320 Speaker 2: the First Amendment, civil civil liberty issues in general. What 216 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:02,680 Speaker 2: does it say that he seems to be having success 217 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:06,920 Speaker 2: somewhat even on the Democrat party side with those opinions. 218 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:09,839 Speaker 4: Well, you know, I'm intrigued by Robert F. Kennedy. I've 219 00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:12,160 Speaker 4: not met him in person, i have communicated a little 220 00:11:12,160 --> 00:11:16,520 Speaker 4: bit with him. I've been intrigued by his dogged pursuit 221 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:20,880 Speaker 4: of sort of corporatism, the idea that big corporations, particularly 222 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:23,520 Speaker 4: pharmaceutical companies, are in bed with the FDA and have 223 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:26,360 Speaker 4: corrupted the process such that it is to benefit the 224 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:30,240 Speaker 4: company's profit and not necessarily the people. These agencies were 225 00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 4: set up for like drug safety in this and that, 226 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:35,360 Speaker 4: but they've become agencies where all the fees come from 227 00:11:35,640 --> 00:11:38,480 Speaker 4: user fees from big companies. People say, oh, that's great. 228 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:41,400 Speaker 4: The companies are paying for government. It's self sufficient. Well 229 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:43,719 Speaker 4: it is unless they control all the levers and then 230 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:47,320 Speaker 4: have become sort of self reinforcing. It's really a problem 231 00:11:47,400 --> 00:11:51,080 Speaker 4: when you have people in government mandating that we use 232 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:55,280 Speaker 4: a certain pharmaceutical project product, and then those same people 233 00:11:55,320 --> 00:11:57,840 Speaker 4: are also on the boards. So we have former FDA 234 00:11:58,040 --> 00:12:00,960 Speaker 4: head is now on the board, member of five. He 235 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:03,920 Speaker 4: also has his own agents calling Twitter to sopride a suppress, 236 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:09,200 Speaker 4: suppress anything that is negative about taking Visor's vaccine. And 237 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:11,720 Speaker 4: I look, more debate the better, more speech, the better. 238 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:14,480 Speaker 4: But I don't like to see the people that sort 239 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:19,160 Speaker 4: of have their tentacles into government using government to mandate 240 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:21,920 Speaker 4: something that increases their profit. You know, if you want 241 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:25,760 Speaker 4: to be just a terrible authoritarian and mandate vaccines and 242 00:12:25,840 --> 00:12:28,600 Speaker 4: medicines on everybody, that's fine, but it's even worse that 243 00:12:28,720 --> 00:12:31,200 Speaker 4: now you're authoritarian, but you're doing it for your own profit. 244 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:34,800 Speaker 4: And so this, you know, he's been pretty good at 245 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:36,880 Speaker 4: looking at stuff like this. I think he's made some 246 00:12:36,920 --> 00:12:40,600 Speaker 4: pretty reasonable comments on Ukraine. In the end, I think 247 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:43,360 Speaker 4: there'll probably be some separation between myself believing in a 248 00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:45,960 Speaker 4: lot less government, but there is some overlap, and I 249 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:48,800 Speaker 4: think he's useful and I'm always willing to hear people 250 00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:50,559 Speaker 4: from the other side who I have some agreement with. 251 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:53,400 Speaker 5: Senator rand Paul, appreciate you being here with us next 252 00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:59,520 Speaker 5: so much service. Thanks guys support US funded resources. Phoenix 253 00:12:59,559 --> 00:13:01,880 Speaker 5: Capital Group invites you to invest in the heart of 254 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:05,680 Speaker 5: America with our domestic energy corporate bonds. 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Since I don't know, 277 00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:21,360 Speaker 5: Woodrow Wilson, you'd have to go back a long way 278 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:25,600 Speaker 5: for somebody to be as involved in shutting down the 279 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:28,360 Speaker 5: free exchange of ideas. You know, Clay, we might get 280 00:14:28,400 --> 00:14:30,600 Speaker 5: in a second. But I just saw something come across, 281 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:34,680 Speaker 5: come across the wire, so to speak. From Kevin O'Leary, 282 00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:38,520 Speaker 5: mister wonderful over on. He was on Outnumbered, and he's 283 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:41,040 Speaker 5: making a point about the economy that I think people 284 00:14:41,080 --> 00:14:43,360 Speaker 5: need to hear more of, and that is, you know, 285 00:14:43,400 --> 00:14:45,200 Speaker 5: first of all, the stock market. He didn't say this, 286 00:14:45,280 --> 00:14:48,400 Speaker 5: I just know this. The stock market is effectively being 287 00:14:48,520 --> 00:14:51,840 Speaker 5: propped up, you know, the SNP being propped up by 288 00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:55,200 Speaker 5: five or six massive tech companies, and a lot of 289 00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:58,320 Speaker 5: that is AI driven. You know, Oh, they're going to 290 00:14:58,400 --> 00:15:00,840 Speaker 5: have huge profits because AI is the future, sure, but 291 00:15:01,280 --> 00:15:03,760 Speaker 5: companies in general are actually not a lot of the 292 00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:06,840 Speaker 5: big companies are not doing particularly well. They're not seeing 293 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:09,040 Speaker 5: a lot of revenue growth, and their. 294 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:09,840 Speaker 3: Stocks are flat. 295 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:13,080 Speaker 5: So even though the market is up a little bit 296 00:15:13,120 --> 00:15:16,680 Speaker 5: this year, overall, it's being propped up by a handful 297 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:18,960 Speaker 5: of companies that are doing all the work lifting. And 298 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:21,560 Speaker 5: that this effects your for a one K, your retirement accounts, 299 00:15:21,560 --> 00:15:24,640 Speaker 5: and everything else. So the overall market's not that good. 300 00:15:24,640 --> 00:15:29,000 Speaker 5: He also pointed out that all the Bidenomics big spending bill, 301 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:30,640 Speaker 5: the Chips bill or not. 302 00:15:30,680 --> 00:15:30,960 Speaker 3: The story. 303 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:35,040 Speaker 5: Well, there's the Chips will separate thing, the Inflation Reduction Acts. Think, 304 00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:36,360 Speaker 5: I mean, I guess we have to call it that 305 00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:37,880 Speaker 5: because that's the name of the bill, even though it's 306 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:38,720 Speaker 5: just a spending bill. 307 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:39,560 Speaker 6: Uh. 308 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:44,640 Speaker 5: That for small to medium sized businesses their cost of capital. 309 00:15:44,680 --> 00:15:48,840 Speaker 5: I mean this the fight against inflation. Coca Cola just 310 00:15:48,840 --> 00:15:51,640 Speaker 5: passes the price onto the consumer and can weather the storm. 311 00:15:52,040 --> 00:15:55,600 Speaker 5: But if you have fifty employees, and as he points out, 312 00:15:56,400 --> 00:15:58,640 Speaker 5: you have fifty employees are running a medium you know, 313 00:15:58,720 --> 00:16:02,800 Speaker 5: mid sized business in the Midwest, let's say your ability 314 00:16:02,840 --> 00:16:05,720 Speaker 5: to get money, your cost of capital is going up 315 00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:08,200 Speaker 5: in a way that really hurts your business, and small 316 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:11,200 Speaker 5: business is still the engine of the American economy, and 317 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:14,800 Speaker 5: I think that's part of the challenge that we have 318 00:16:14,920 --> 00:16:18,920 Speaker 5: right now. And this is not being articulated on the 319 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:22,160 Speaker 5: Republican side. People feel this, they see the prices, they 320 00:16:22,280 --> 00:16:25,160 Speaker 5: understand that. I don't know anybody who runs a small 321 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:27,920 Speaker 5: business that feels like things are good right now. But 322 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:32,200 Speaker 5: the why is so important. People need to hear the why. 323 00:16:34,080 --> 00:16:36,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's true in a big way, Buck, 324 00:16:36,560 --> 00:16:40,360 Speaker 2: and I would just come back to on the Bidenomics front. 325 00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:43,920 Speaker 2: We talked earlier about mortgage rates. They are surging up 326 00:16:43,960 --> 00:16:48,320 Speaker 2: to almost eight percent inflation three percent now the number 327 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:50,880 Speaker 2: that came out today, but it's on top of nine 328 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:53,520 Speaker 2: percent last year. And I think that's important for people 329 00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:57,200 Speaker 2: to understand. It's building. It's building on top of the 330 00:16:57,200 --> 00:17:00,480 Speaker 2: mountain that was already built. So things are still in creasing, 331 00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:02,520 Speaker 2: they're just increasing at a lower rate, and you're not 332 00:17:02,560 --> 00:17:06,600 Speaker 2: getting money back from that ten percent nearly inflation last year. 333 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:08,880 Speaker 2: And the way to really bring this home is real 334 00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:12,400 Speaker 2: wages are down. I try to look at everything, Buck 335 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:15,320 Speaker 2: in terms of one year, but now we've got three 336 00:17:15,400 --> 00:17:18,240 Speaker 2: years of so called biden nomics right where you can 337 00:17:18,280 --> 00:17:22,160 Speaker 2: sit and look at everything. Mortgage rates highest in a decade, 338 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:26,479 Speaker 2: inflation highest in forty years, real wages down. That as 339 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:28,439 Speaker 2: you were making less money in your pocket today than 340 00:17:28,480 --> 00:17:30,919 Speaker 2: you were when Joe Biden came into office, and the 341 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:33,879 Speaker 2: stock market's not up. Whether you're rich or poor, the 342 00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:37,080 Speaker 2: economy is not working. That's the case that I think 343 00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 2: needs to be made, and people feel it, but they 344 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:42,840 Speaker 2: need to understand whether what they feel is real. And 345 00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:44,800 Speaker 2: that's why when Democrats try to say we've got a 346 00:17:44,800 --> 00:17:47,399 Speaker 2: really strong economy. I saw Paul Krugman wrote that in 347 00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:50,280 Speaker 2: his New York Times column this week, it's not actually 348 00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:52,639 Speaker 2: true if you're a normal person or even a rich person, 349 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:57,320 Speaker 2: and that goes to the essence of the Biden failure 350 00:17:58,080 --> 00:18:01,280 Speaker 2: in general. As it pertains to all of this. I 351 00:18:01,320 --> 00:18:05,120 Speaker 2: want to tell you about my friends at right now 352 00:18:05,240 --> 00:18:09,800 Speaker 2: tunnel to towers. 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Travis and buck 367 00:18:57,400 --> 00:19:02,480 Speaker 2: Sexton on the front lines. Welcome back in Clay Travis 368 00:19:02,520 --> 00:19:06,760 Speaker 2: buck Sexton Show. We are joined now by Representative Mike 369 00:19:06,800 --> 00:19:10,240 Speaker 2: Johnson from Louisiana. He was on the He was in 370 00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:14,119 Speaker 2: the committee hearing earlier today when Christopher Ray, director of 371 00:19:14,119 --> 00:19:18,280 Speaker 2: the FBI, was grilled about the political nature of the FBI, 372 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:23,480 Speaker 2: and we played at least one of your soundbites earlier 373 00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:26,199 Speaker 2: in the show. Represent Johnson's we appreciate the questions that 374 00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:30,520 Speaker 2: you were asking, what, if anything, was your biggest takeaway 375 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:33,880 Speaker 2: from Christopher Ray's testimony today on Capitol Hill. 376 00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:40,120 Speaker 6: Well, the takeaway is that he's been pretty evasive. It's 377 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:43,639 Speaker 6: really stunning to me, guys, and I said this in 378 00:19:43,680 --> 00:19:46,879 Speaker 6: my questions with him, that we have this explosive one 379 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:50,240 Speaker 6: hundred and fifty five page federal court ruling released on 380 00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:54,080 Speaker 6: July fourth, appropriately poetically saying that the FBI is directly 381 00:19:54,119 --> 00:19:56,840 Speaker 6: involved in This is the court's quote, not mine, arguably 382 00:19:56,880 --> 00:20:00,040 Speaker 6: the most massive attack against free speech in unit and 383 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:03,080 Speaker 6: in state's history. And the director of the agency that 384 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:05,960 Speaker 6: is being accused of this hasn't even read the opinion. 385 00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:07,320 Speaker 6: He's had got a quick briefing on it, but he 386 00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:09,920 Speaker 6: really was prepared to discuss it today. I mean, it's 387 00:20:10,040 --> 00:20:10,840 Speaker 6: unbelievable to me. 388 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:12,840 Speaker 2: Do you believe that do you believe that he hasn't 389 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:14,679 Speaker 2: actually sorry to cut you off, but do you believe 390 00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:16,360 Speaker 2: that he hasn't actually read it? Or do you think 391 00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:19,120 Speaker 2: he was just trying to avoid having to be questioned 392 00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:22,560 Speaker 2: about any of the findings in that report in that opinion? 393 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:25,720 Speaker 6: Well, well, I think it's both. You know, I'm sure 394 00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:28,960 Speaker 6: his lawyers briefed him on it, but you know, if 395 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:31,000 Speaker 6: I was the director of the FBI, if you were, 396 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:33,520 Speaker 6: and you had a court accusing you of the most 397 00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:35,639 Speaker 6: egregious violations of the First Amendment in the history of 398 00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:38,679 Speaker 6: the country. I agree it would merit some of my attention, 399 00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:42,439 Speaker 6: you know. But but he doesn't seem to care. And 400 00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:45,400 Speaker 6: I do think that he was very uncomfortable answering questions 401 00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:47,240 Speaker 6: about that, because there's really no way to defend what 402 00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:47,720 Speaker 6: they've done. 403 00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:52,240 Speaker 5: Congressman. One part of me though, here's this and see 404 00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:56,080 Speaker 5: some of this testimony and thinks, well, maybe he doesn't 405 00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:58,679 Speaker 5: care because he thinks there won't be any consequences in 406 00:20:58,760 --> 00:20:59,480 Speaker 5: an He's right. 407 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:00,840 Speaker 3: What do you say to that. 408 00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:03,800 Speaker 6: It's a great question. I have to answer this all 409 00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:06,359 Speaker 6: the time and remind people back home. You know, we 410 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:08,840 Speaker 6: only have the majority in one House of Congress, and 411 00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:11,880 Speaker 6: we barely have a majority there. Right even if we did, 412 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:13,280 Speaker 6: let's say we have the majority in the Senate. In 413 00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:15,000 Speaker 6: the House right now, we don't have the ability under 414 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:18,320 Speaker 6: the Constitution as members of Congress to purb walk anybody. 415 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:22,360 Speaker 6: I can't get him fired, I can't I can't indict him, right, 416 00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:24,720 Speaker 6: I can't put him on trial in a court. But 417 00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:26,000 Speaker 6: what I can do is put him on trial in 418 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:27,600 Speaker 6: the court of public opinion. That's what we're trying to 419 00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:30,000 Speaker 6: do today, to put the facts out for the American people. 420 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:31,880 Speaker 6: What that ultimately will do is it will lead them 421 00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:34,640 Speaker 6: to make important choices in the elect election cycle about 422 00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:36,439 Speaker 6: who's running the White House, because that's who appoints all 423 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:39,960 Speaker 6: these people. And second, it allows us the Foundation to 424 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:43,320 Speaker 6: bring real reform. And we're limited in our scope of 425 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:45,560 Speaker 6: what we can do here with oversight, but we can 426 00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:48,000 Speaker 6: change the law, we can change the way the FBI 427 00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:50,760 Speaker 6: operates and is structured, and we can cut some of 428 00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:52,760 Speaker 6: the funding when necessary. You know, they want a one 429 00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:55,840 Speaker 6: billion dollars and new headquarters. I don't think they deserve 430 00:21:55,920 --> 00:22:00,240 Speaker 6: that if they can't respect the most fundamental constitutional right 431 00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:02,800 Speaker 6: the people they're supposed to serve and protect. So that's 432 00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:04,520 Speaker 6: what's an issue here. We have the power of the purse, 433 00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:05,560 Speaker 6: and we're going to use that. 434 00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:07,199 Speaker 3: Representative Johnson. 435 00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:10,720 Speaker 2: One of the things that I'm most fascinated about, and 436 00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:12,880 Speaker 2: we didn't get to watch this lie because we were 437 00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:16,200 Speaker 2: on the air for a substantial portion of the hearings, 438 00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:19,960 Speaker 2: but we know and I'm just curious if you would 439 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:22,119 Speaker 2: follow me along here, because I think this goes to 440 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:27,040 Speaker 2: the very essence of the FBI's political nature. We know 441 00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:29,520 Speaker 2: that they took possession of the Hunter Biden laptop in 442 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:33,240 Speaker 2: December of twenty nineteen. We know that shortly thereafter they 443 00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:36,400 Speaker 2: determined that laptop was one hundred percent authentic and real 444 00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:40,200 Speaker 2: and began to investigate a variety of different crimes associated 445 00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:44,120 Speaker 2: with it. But yet the next year, in October, when 446 00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:47,320 Speaker 2: the New York Post told us about this laptop, they 447 00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:50,320 Speaker 2: aided and embedded and had aided and embedded for months 448 00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:53,959 Speaker 2: the idea that this might be Russian this information, and 449 00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:57,520 Speaker 2: allowed the censorship of this to occur. In fact, they 450 00:22:57,680 --> 00:23:02,000 Speaker 2: encouraged the censorship of the Hunter Biden laptop story to occur. 451 00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:07,040 Speaker 2: To me, that's criminal in nature. Was Christopher Ray asked 452 00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:12,240 Speaker 2: anything about that particularly? And how is it possible that 453 00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:15,480 Speaker 2: he's still not having to answer for that from three 454 00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:16,440 Speaker 2: and four years ago. 455 00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:20,240 Speaker 6: It's a great question, and I did ask him that 456 00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:23,080 Speaker 6: this morning. In fact, the court, this court opinion out 457 00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:26,040 Speaker 6: of Louisiana that came out July fourth, in multiple places 458 00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:27,919 Speaker 6: in this one hundred and fifty five page opinion, the 459 00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:29,159 Speaker 6: court goes there because it's. 460 00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:31,920 Speaker 3: So important, it's the essence of all the DIRECTORCT. 461 00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:35,800 Speaker 6: It's absolutely is you're right, And I asked him. I've 462 00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:37,639 Speaker 6: got the transcript of what I asked him right here. 463 00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:41,480 Speaker 6: I said, quote the court's found quote. This seemingly unrelenting 464 00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:44,720 Speaker 6: pressure by the FBI had the intended result of suppressing 465 00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:47,960 Speaker 6: millions of protected free speech posting fire American citizens. That's 466 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:50,200 Speaker 6: the court's language, not mine, and the court continues as 467 00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:53,840 Speaker 6: a result, millions of US citizens did not hear of 468 00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:56,760 Speaker 6: the Hunter Biden laptop story prior to the November third, 469 00:23:56,800 --> 00:23:59,600 Speaker 6: twenty twenty election. We know that that had an effect 470 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:02,480 Speaker 6: on the co of the election. The post election polling 471 00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:05,199 Speaker 6: shows that if the people had known about it, they 472 00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:07,760 Speaker 6: would have voted differently in that election. Guys, we can 473 00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:09,840 Speaker 6: never go back in online history. But that is a 474 00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:15,360 Speaker 6: profound piece of information here. And the director that pretended 475 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:17,000 Speaker 6: as though he didn't know that that was true or 476 00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:19,919 Speaker 6: had not been mentioned in the case. It's just stunning, stunning. 477 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:24,440 Speaker 5: Congress and Johnson, how far do you think this politicized 478 00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:28,040 Speaker 5: rot extends in the FBI? I think that people often 479 00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:31,080 Speaker 5: when they hear about this, or there's discussions of this, 480 00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:34,600 Speaker 5: there's this perception, oh, if we let's say, if we 481 00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:38,879 Speaker 5: replaced Ray with somebody who was really good, then everything 482 00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:42,520 Speaker 5: in the FBI would change. I years ago worked in 483 00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:45,640 Speaker 5: the CIA, I would tell people that most folks don't 484 00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:49,600 Speaker 5: even interact in these organizations at all. With the Director, now, 485 00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:52,399 Speaker 5: that doesn't mean there isn't policy, But what do you 486 00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:54,640 Speaker 5: think would have to happen? I mean, how much change 487 00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:57,200 Speaker 5: does the FBI need before it can gain the trust 488 00:24:57,200 --> 00:24:58,000 Speaker 5: of the American people? 489 00:24:58,040 --> 00:24:58,800 Speaker 3: What does that look like? 490 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:01,679 Speaker 6: Well, we've got a long way to go. And one 491 00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:03,959 Speaker 6: of the alarming statistics I brought up to the Director 492 00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:06,120 Speaker 6: this morning was that there was an NBC News poll 493 00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:09,439 Speaker 6: came out last week. Only thirty seven percent of registered 494 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:13,280 Speaker 6: voters now view the FBI positively thirty seven percent. If 495 00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:15,639 Speaker 6: we can't maintain the people's faith in our system of 496 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:18,639 Speaker 6: justice and the department that is supposed to be administering 497 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:21,080 Speaker 6: all this, we're in serious trouble. I mean, this is 498 00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:25,119 Speaker 6: a foundational underpinning of maintaining a republic. Those states couldn't 499 00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:27,120 Speaker 6: be any higher. What we need to do is, you know, 500 00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:29,520 Speaker 6: we don't have a beef with the thirty eight thousand. 501 00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:32,200 Speaker 6: You know, employees and line agents at the FBI. We've 502 00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:34,000 Speaker 6: got a lot of patriots serving in the CIA and 503 00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:36,520 Speaker 6: the FBI. We know that, but the leadership at the top, 504 00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:40,000 Speaker 6: maybe the top two levels, is corrupted. I mean, they're 505 00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:43,040 Speaker 6: allowing this to go on, and under Merrit Garland's leadership 506 00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:45,840 Speaker 6: of the Department of Justice, they are losing the faith 507 00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:48,159 Speaker 6: of the people and we have got to restore it, 508 00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:50,160 Speaker 6: and we need to start that yesterday. And the way 509 00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:52,800 Speaker 6: we do it is by serious reform that the people 510 00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:55,080 Speaker 6: can see and understand it. That's what we're trying to 511 00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:58,600 Speaker 6: evoke from these guys, to make them bring that to 512 00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:00,639 Speaker 6: us and present it to the people. But we have 513 00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:01,640 Speaker 6: no time to lose here. 514 00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:06,399 Speaker 2: Congressman Johnson, I go a lot to motivation, because I 515 00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:08,800 Speaker 2: don't think there's any doubt at all that the head 516 00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:12,520 Speaker 2: of the FBI, Christopher Ray, is corrupt and that he 517 00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:16,280 Speaker 2: has aided further in the corruption of the FBI from 518 00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:20,360 Speaker 2: a top down basis. Why is he corrupt? 519 00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:23,639 Speaker 3: What is he gaining? In your mind from this? 520 00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:28,879 Speaker 6: I think there are systematic issues in the agency, and 521 00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:32,600 Speaker 6: there's probably a lot of reasons for this. I think 522 00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:34,520 Speaker 6: some of it to be very frank enough to get 523 00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:36,359 Speaker 6: too deep in the weeds. But we've had some testimony 524 00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:38,919 Speaker 6: from field agents who served in the FBI, you know, 525 00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:41,399 Speaker 6: thirty plus years, and they said they could see a 526 00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:45,040 Speaker 6: development in this direction after nine to eleven. For example, 527 00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:47,560 Speaker 6: Remember the big controversy then was that the agencies and 528 00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:50,000 Speaker 6: Intel were not all connected and they couldn't compare notes, 529 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:52,560 Speaker 6: and therefore we didn't respond as effectively as it could. 530 00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:55,439 Speaker 6: So there was this move to consolidate everything. What happened was, 531 00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:59,000 Speaker 6: especially under the Obama administration and now on steroids on 532 00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:02,399 Speaker 6: the Biden administration, is that they consolidated the power, you know, 533 00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:05,520 Speaker 6: instead of having the authority down in the field offices 534 00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:08,000 Speaker 6: out throughout the country, where you had multiple levesit of review. 535 00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:10,800 Speaker 6: Before they would you know, go investigate parents at school 536 00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:13,720 Speaker 6: board meetings or labeled Catholics as domestic terrorists or whatever 537 00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:16,119 Speaker 6: that would be checked by somebody in one of those offices. 538 00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:18,200 Speaker 6: Hey gee whiz, guys, I'm not sure we should do that, right. 539 00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:22,000 Speaker 6: But now they've taken all that authority and brought it 540 00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:25,159 Speaker 6: into the headquarters, the main office, where you just have 541 00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:27,080 Speaker 6: a handful of people at the very top making the 542 00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:30,159 Speaker 6: decisions on these things. That's the problem and or it's 543 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:31,959 Speaker 6: a big part of the problem. And then also you 544 00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:36,440 Speaker 6: have Biden putting political people with agendas and these positions 545 00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:39,000 Speaker 6: that are supposed to be a political right, and so 546 00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:42,439 Speaker 6: they've become basically an arm of the party in power. 547 00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:45,640 Speaker 6: And that's the problem at its essence, that we've got 548 00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:49,159 Speaker 6: to get back to the main mission of the FBI 549 00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:51,320 Speaker 6: and to get away from the politics. And we've got 550 00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:51,800 Speaker 6: a long way. 551 00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:54,159 Speaker 5: To be able to do it right now, Congress and Johnson, 552 00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:55,600 Speaker 5: appreciate you being with us or thanks so. 553 00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:57,280 Speaker 1: Much, you got it. 554 00:27:57,320 --> 00:27:57,919 Speaker 6: Thank you guys. 555 00:27:58,960 --> 00:27:59,800 Speaker 3: There's a former. 556 00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:03,159 Speaker 5: Walls insider who's got a bold prediction about changes coming 557 00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:06,880 Speaker 5: to our basic currency system here in this country. Tikasuwaye 558 00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:10,120 Speaker 5: is his name. He's an author of many well thought 559 00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:13,360 Speaker 5: of financial newsletters who pays attention to our nation's economy 560 00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:16,440 Speaker 5: and what's affecting it. 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Appreciate you being with us, of course, 581 00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:21,960 Speaker 5: and uh please download the podcast. Subscribe even better than 582 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:24,440 Speaker 5: downloading it, because that's just one time. Subscribe to the podcast, 583 00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:30,280 Speaker 5: download the iHeartRadio app. Clay, I think it's just a 584 00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:37,480 Speaker 5: brilliant marketing scheme. But you are my fast food connoisseur. Yes, 585 00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:39,360 Speaker 5: to be fair, it's not that I wouldn't eat it. 586 00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:41,920 Speaker 5: I just really can't eat fast food because of the 587 00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:44,680 Speaker 5: gluten content that is in almost all of it. As 588 00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:48,040 Speaker 5: somebody who has siliac disease. I will say when RFK 589 00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:50,480 Speaker 5: Junior was talking about a bunch of things, he mentioned 590 00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:54,440 Speaker 5: the big explosion in siliac disease. Yeah, of the last 591 00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:57,560 Speaker 5: let's say thirty years. That got my attention. Celiac disease 592 00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:02,320 Speaker 5: is so annoying. It is very frustrating deal with. But anyway, 593 00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:03,920 Speaker 5: because I used to roll over my you know, my 594 00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:05,520 Speaker 5: dadad what did he attribute it to? 595 00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:07,840 Speaker 2: Is it the processed foods and stuff that he thinks 596 00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:09,560 Speaker 2: may have been creed? I don't know the answer, but 597 00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:11,000 Speaker 2: I mean. 598 00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:12,680 Speaker 3: I think he said something about vaccines. But you know, 599 00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:14,560 Speaker 3: there's a lot of things, a lot of things. I 600 00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:16,800 Speaker 3: think it might have been about vaccines with our kid Junior. 601 00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:20,840 Speaker 5: But the point being, it seems to me like there 602 00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:22,560 Speaker 5: are people that make the case. There's a whole book 603 00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:26,320 Speaker 5: called Wheat Belly that talks about what they call dwarf wheat, 604 00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:30,440 Speaker 5: which is genetically modified grain. I read this right when 605 00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:33,240 Speaker 5: I got diagnosed with ciliac about thirteen years ago now, 606 00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:36,920 Speaker 5: and after having been extremely sick for months, which was 607 00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:40,040 Speaker 5: not fun. Anyway, on the fun things fast if you 608 00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:41,840 Speaker 5: want to read Wheat Belly, though, it talks about how 609 00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:44,240 Speaker 5: we have if you look at what wheat looked like, 610 00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:48,800 Speaker 5: you know, in the during the American Revolution, or during 611 00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:50,440 Speaker 5: the time of the Bible or whatever. You look at wheat, 612 00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:52,480 Speaker 5: it all looks the same. Then again in the twentieth 613 00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:57,479 Speaker 5: century and it changes. The basic fundamental plant looks very, 614 00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:00,880 Speaker 5: very different, like what we meetically modify in many ways 615 00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:04,800 Speaker 5: over time. Yes, it's shorter, it's denser, it is much 616 00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:08,360 Speaker 5: more rapidly harved, you know, much more rapidly grown in 617 00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:11,640 Speaker 5: therefore harvested, so it's more efficient, it's more economical. But 618 00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:15,880 Speaker 5: how's it doing for people? I mean, anyway, that's that's 619 00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:18,040 Speaker 5: one thing. But I can't really eat the much of 620 00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:20,840 Speaker 5: the fast food. I can go to a Chick fil A. 621 00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:23,440 Speaker 5: The nuggets and the fries, that's what I can go for. 622 00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:26,480 Speaker 5: That's a good combo to have, by the way, Yeah, 623 00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:28,280 Speaker 5: well I take the I take the fries and make 624 00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:31,120 Speaker 5: a little chicken nugget sandwich with my waffle fries, which 625 00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:34,640 Speaker 5: gets it done. But I will say this, there is 626 00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:37,360 Speaker 5: in Thailand, somebody see this. They're getting all this attention 627 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:43,320 Speaker 5: for the cheeseburger, uh, the real cheeseburger. They're calling it. 628 00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:46,680 Speaker 5: Everyone's writing about this. It is no meat. It is 629 00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:52,120 Speaker 5: just twenty slices of American cheese melted between two buns. 630 00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:57,040 Speaker 5: Would you eat this clay? This is Thailand slices. It's 631 00:31:57,080 --> 00:31:57,640 Speaker 5: burger king. 632 00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:01,880 Speaker 2: I mean, I I mean, look, I've probably eaten way 633 00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:05,520 Speaker 2: way less healthy things. I mean, I like grilled cheese, 634 00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:08,720 Speaker 2: but I can't imagine that this is very good. I 635 00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:10,160 Speaker 2: know it doesn't have a lot of appeal to me. 636 00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:13,320 Speaker 2: Did you did you see my hot take that blew 637 00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:14,960 Speaker 2: up associated with fast food? 638 00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:15,560 Speaker 4: No? 639 00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:16,120 Speaker 3: What was it? 640 00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:21,600 Speaker 2: I ranked chicken tenders and I altered my chicken tender's 641 00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:25,200 Speaker 2: fast food power rankings, and it's set off in uproar 642 00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:29,960 Speaker 2: and the best, in my opinion, always humble. As you 643 00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:33,720 Speaker 2: well know, I now think the best chicken tenders in 644 00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:38,320 Speaker 2: America fast food. I'm not talking about individual restaurants. Raisin 645 00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:41,440 Speaker 2: canes have you ever had? You can't eat it? You 646 00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:46,320 Speaker 2: have legitimately zero opinion on this. Raisin Canes is to 647 00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:50,160 Speaker 2: come into Nashville recently, and my boys, I would say 648 00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:55,200 Speaker 2: chicken tenders and pizza if you have kids, are probably 649 00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:59,560 Speaker 2: the most reliable staple of the child diet. You can 650 00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:02,600 Speaker 2: toss in maybe peanut butter and jelly, but chicken tenders 651 00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:06,000 Speaker 2: and pizza. It's almost impossible to go wrong, So my kids, 652 00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:08,880 Speaker 2: not surprisingly eat a lot of chicken tenders and pizza. 653 00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:14,160 Speaker 2: Raising Canes Buck if you were able to eat it 654 00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:19,880 Speaker 2: is incredibly good. I bumped them to number one, replacing Zaxby's. 655 00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:22,560 Speaker 2: I think Raisin Canes has the best chicken tenders in 656 00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:25,280 Speaker 2: America and they are unbelievably good. 657 00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:29,320 Speaker 5: What is your what is You're all in? Favorite fast 658 00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:32,000 Speaker 5: food chain period fast food? 659 00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:34,920 Speaker 2: Chick fil A beyond the shadow of a dow all 660 00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:37,280 Speaker 2: in Wow, Okay, I go. I had to only eat 661 00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:39,880 Speaker 2: one Chick fil one fast food for the rest of 662 00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:41,840 Speaker 2: my life, Like you wiped me out and said you 663 00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:43,640 Speaker 2: can't go anywhere else. I would go Chick fil A 664 00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:45,760 Speaker 2: because I don't think I've ever had a Chick fil 665 00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:48,440 Speaker 2: A sandwich. And as you mentioned the waffle fries earlier 666 00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:51,880 Speaker 2: and thought, oh, you know what, that really stunk, right, 667 00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:55,840 Speaker 2: the quality is always there, Just like my favorite meal. 668 00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:57,440 Speaker 2: If I had to get a meal, I had to 669 00:33:57,440 --> 00:33:59,040 Speaker 2: eat one meal for the rest of my life, I 670 00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:02,040 Speaker 2: would go Chicken Palm. I think Chicken Palm is the 671 00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:05,200 Speaker 2: I've never It's almost impossible to screw up chicken palm. 672 00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:07,400 Speaker 2: It's almost always good. What about you, what would your 673 00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:10,120 Speaker 2: go to be? Oh, in an out burger for sure? 674 00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:11,840 Speaker 3: In and out? So can you eat the in and 675 00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:12,680 Speaker 3: out burger or no? 676 00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:16,600 Speaker 5: Yeah, because they put it on lettuce wraps. Yeah, I know, 677 00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:18,640 Speaker 5: which is still very good. It's not as good as 678 00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:20,400 Speaker 5: it would be with a bun, but that's that's. 679 00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:22,480 Speaker 2: So when you went out on a first date with 680 00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:25,239 Speaker 2: a girl back in the day, did you pretend that 681 00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:27,400 Speaker 2: you didn't have celiac disease because you thought it was 682 00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:29,719 Speaker 2: kind of wimpy or did you immediately admit. 683 00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:30,000 Speaker 3: That you had it? 684 00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:34,000 Speaker 5: No, you got it, otherwise you I'll be sick for days. 685 00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:36,600 Speaker 2: There's no like, oh, you mean it's not like something 686 00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:38,719 Speaker 2: an appetizer and like you wouldn't eat it, like you 687 00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:40,400 Speaker 2: would just eat immediately say it. 688 00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:43,640 Speaker 5: Oh, immediately immediately. Yeah, there's no, there's no U. It's 689 00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:45,480 Speaker 5: not like there are a lot of people that won't eat 690 00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:46,560 Speaker 5: gluten because they're. 691 00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:48,279 Speaker 3: Like oh, like man, it's like, I don't think it. 692 00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:50,040 Speaker 5: You know, it's good for my system, which is fine, 693 00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:54,400 Speaker 5: by the way, I mean I legitimately. Celiac disease causes 694 00:34:54,440 --> 00:35:00,000 Speaker 5: an autoimmune misfire. Basically, where your intestines become inflamed because 695 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,760 Speaker 5: because they're treating the actual glead and or the gluten 696 00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:05,920 Speaker 5: protein like it is like an invader or something to 697 00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:07,239 Speaker 5: be So you do. 698 00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:09,040 Speaker 2: You had this when you were ten and twelve and 699 00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:10,239 Speaker 2: you didn't know or it. 700 00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:11,160 Speaker 3: Didn't just never, They don't. 701 00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:13,640 Speaker 5: They don't know if it's adult onset or if it's 702 00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:16,520 Speaker 5: something that you don't you know that basically you were 703 00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:19,960 Speaker 5: symptom free until later, or it's like an adult onset allergy. 704 00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:21,840 Speaker 3: And you've probably heard of people who will eat. 705 00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:23,799 Speaker 5: Shrimp or something and all of a sudden they're having 706 00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:25,680 Speaker 5: you know, reaction and they used to eat it all 707 00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:29,160 Speaker 5: the time. So not not really clear. About one percent 708 00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:33,000 Speaker 5: of the population has Celiac disease overall, So I mean. 709 00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:36,960 Speaker 2: It's more prominent like an Irish people is there, Like yeah, it's. 710 00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:40,520 Speaker 5: Western, It's it's it's almost entirely I mean, like I 711 00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:42,239 Speaker 5: can say when I was in China and I was 712 00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:45,080 Speaker 5: trying to I was trying to navigate the cuisine in Beijing, 713 00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:49,320 Speaker 5: the Cilia act, it's just not a thing. You just don't. 714 00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:51,560 Speaker 5: They don't have it in China. Really, it's not a 715 00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:55,600 Speaker 5: thing they ever come across. It's really Western Europeans who 716 00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:59,160 Speaker 5: for whatever reason genetically have have Celiac disease. So yeah, 717 00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:00,280 Speaker 5: it's one of those weird thing things. 718 00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:04,160 Speaker 2: Well, I'm telling you, Buck, at some point, if you 719 00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:07,680 Speaker 2: get a solution, if you get healed, you would love 720 00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:10,960 Speaker 2: raisin canes and the raisin cane sauce. I would inject 721 00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:13,760 Speaker 2: it into my veins. I think it's maybe the greatest 722 00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:15,120 Speaker 2: sauce that's ever existed in. 723 00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:17,759 Speaker 5: That's actually something I thought about, like if I got 724 00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:21,440 Speaker 5: a Hall pass or going all in on the gluten. 725 00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:26,440 Speaker 5: If you're talking fast food, I probably do a breaded, 726 00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:30,040 Speaker 5: salted delicious Chick fil a sandwich. 727 00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:31,320 Speaker 3: That's probably what I go. 728 00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:34,920 Speaker 2: How many people are going straight to get fast food 729 00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:38,320 Speaker 2: just based off this conversation here, This is what happens. 730 00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:40,200 Speaker 3: We get hungry toward the end of the show, I know. 731 00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:42,560 Speaker 5: So we're usually just like, yeah, Clay, you see that 732 00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:47,560 Speaker 5: new story about cheeseburgers and waffle fries is crazy, you know, 733 00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:51,640 Speaker 5: I mean it's branched right for me, eleven to two Central, 734 00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:53,960 Speaker 5: like this is Wheelhouse for lunchtime. 735 00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:56,640 Speaker 2: We appreciate all of you hanging out with us, same 736 00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:58,840 Speaker 2: bad time, same bad channel. We'll hang with you guys 737 00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:00,600 Speaker 2: tomorrow