WEBVTT - Nicholle Tom Meets World 0:00:18.960 --> 0:00:20.400 So right, are your birthdays coming up? 0:00:20.640 --> 0:00:23.439 We all know your birthdays, which leads me to ask 0:00:24.520 --> 0:00:26.680 a brother, which is, hey, you don't get to talk 0:00:26.720 --> 0:00:33.640 directly to us, Danielle, what is the best birthday present 0:00:34.240 --> 0:00:35.040 you've ever gotten? 0:00:35.040 --> 0:00:35.400 In your O? 0:00:40.240 --> 0:00:45.559 My wife, I guess this was my fortieth birthday, so 0:00:46.159 --> 0:00:46.680 oh god. 0:00:46.840 --> 0:00:47.839 Six years ago. 0:00:50.320 --> 0:00:56.520 Had a vinyl album made for me and asked family 0:00:56.600 --> 0:01:00.160 and friends of mine to each contribute a song. And 0:01:00.200 --> 0:01:02.360 so what I ended up getting was a two record 0:01:02.520 --> 0:01:08.040 set of songs with liner notes explaining why everyone picked 0:01:08.040 --> 0:01:08.479 their song. 0:01:08.720 --> 0:01:10.399 That's cool and it was one of. 0:01:10.400 --> 0:01:12.319 The So I have this record and you know she 0:01:12.360 --> 0:01:15.800 printed it, so it has like pictures from our life 0:01:15.800 --> 0:01:17.920 on it and me on it. And then I open 0:01:18.000 --> 0:01:20.960 it up and yeah, there's like a little message from 0:01:21.160 --> 0:01:23.760 people in my life saying this song. Here's why I 0:01:23.760 --> 0:01:26.200 picked it because of this memory, or because this always 0:01:26.240 --> 0:01:27.920 makes me think of you, or I knew you would 0:01:27.959 --> 0:01:29.920 like this song, or whatever you know you introduced me. 0:01:30.040 --> 0:01:31.920 But everyone had their own reason why they picked a 0:01:31.959 --> 0:01:35.880 song they picked. But yeah, it's truly like I mean, 0:01:35.959 --> 0:01:39.200 I just fell apart and bald opening it up, and 0:01:39.240 --> 0:01:42.040 then I can still pull it out and put it 0:01:42.080 --> 0:01:45.039 on and hear a whole collection of the It's such 0:01:45.040 --> 0:01:47.560 a great gift. Yeah, so that was by far, like 0:01:47.600 --> 0:01:50.360 one of the coolest, most thoughtful, and you know, it 0:01:50.480 --> 0:01:52.240 still goes on, Like I can still listen to it 0:01:52.240 --> 0:01:54.280 and still get back into that mindset. 0:01:54.400 --> 0:01:57.480 Yeah, how about you. Anybody else got a favorite gift? 0:01:57.720 --> 0:02:01.480 Well, probably the gift that stands out the most of 0:02:01.480 --> 0:02:04.960 me is my godfather for my sixteenth birthday gave me 0:02:05.000 --> 0:02:08.720 my car. So I still have my Selica, my eighty 0:02:08.760 --> 0:02:10.880 six Selica. So when I was a gift, Yeah, that 0:02:10.919 --> 0:02:12.600 was a gift. It was a gift from my uncle Fred, 0:02:12.600 --> 0:02:14.400 who's no longer here, who was the nicest guy in 0:02:14.440 --> 0:02:14.840 the world. 0:02:15.360 --> 0:02:18.400 And yeah, he gave me my car, which again it's. 0:02:18.280 --> 0:02:20.639 Still huge, so cute. 0:02:20.960 --> 0:02:22.280 That was a good one. He was a great guy. 0:02:22.360 --> 0:02:25.720 Is my dad's college roommate, and he was my godfather 0:02:25.760 --> 0:02:27.880 when I was born and he was just a wonderful man. 0:02:27.919 --> 0:02:28.880 And yeah, so still have it. 0:02:29.760 --> 0:02:32.440 Yeah, that's a good one. 0:02:32.639 --> 0:02:34.600 And part of this is like because not even because 0:02:34.639 --> 0:02:38.240 the gift itself was so amazing, it was the way 0:02:38.360 --> 0:02:41.040 the gift was done was so memorable. When we were 0:02:41.800 --> 0:02:43.520 living it was like the first year we were living 0:02:43.520 --> 0:02:45.600 in our new house in Calabasas, so I was probably 0:02:45.600 --> 0:02:48.560 twelve or maybe thirteen at the most. My mom for 0:02:48.680 --> 0:02:53.040 my birthday did a scavenger hunt where you know, there 0:02:53.120 --> 0:02:55.360 was like the first present and then there was a 0:02:55.440 --> 0:02:57.800 clue to go find the next present somewhere in the 0:02:57.840 --> 0:03:00.400 house or somewhere else, and I had to go find it. 0:03:00.440 --> 0:03:03.399 And the gifts were just like little things that got 0:03:03.440 --> 0:03:08.679 progressively bigger, and they ended with a Commodore sixty four. Compute. 0:03:08.680 --> 0:03:09.000 Wow. 0:03:09.320 --> 0:03:15.720 Yeah, Commodore sixty four. Commoore, me too, did YouTube. We 0:03:15.800 --> 0:03:16.880 all had commodorees. 0:03:16.960 --> 0:03:17.760 They were the best. 0:03:17.800 --> 0:03:19.920 Oh my god, and it was so cool. 0:03:19.960 --> 0:03:22.600 But like I remember the scavenger hunt of it all. 0:03:22.680 --> 0:03:24.480 One of the reasons I remember the scavenger hunt to 0:03:24.639 --> 0:03:26.680 is because my mom had this pair of shoes that 0:03:26.760 --> 0:03:30.200 I loved that were like black snake skin and they 0:03:30.200 --> 0:03:32.120 were they dipped down really low and showed a lot 0:03:32.160 --> 0:03:35.040 of tow cleavage, and I loved them. I wanted them 0:03:35.160 --> 0:03:37.840 so bad, even though I had nowhere at thirteen to 0:03:37.840 --> 0:03:41.960 wear toe cleavage snakeskin shoes, but I loved them. My 0:03:42.000 --> 0:03:46.640 mom put a clue in one of those shoes under 0:03:46.680 --> 0:03:48.440 you know, under the dining room table or whatever. And 0:03:48.480 --> 0:03:50.720 I thought that was the big gift that she was 0:03:51.360 --> 0:03:53.840 giving me the shoes. I was like, She's like, no, 0:03:53.920 --> 0:03:56.280 that's still my I'm just putting a clue in it 0:03:56.320 --> 0:03:57.920 because I know you love them. 0:03:58.280 --> 0:04:00.280 But I just went tow cleavage or was out a thing. 0:04:00.560 --> 0:04:02.440 I think it's a thing I did not. Okay, no, 0:04:02.840 --> 0:04:07.040 I'm sure I've heard them somewhere before. Anyway, that was 0:04:07.080 --> 0:04:07.880 probably my best. 0:04:08.040 --> 0:04:08.640 That's awesome. 0:04:08.720 --> 0:04:10.840 It's like a full experience. To make it a whole 0:04:11.040 --> 0:04:13.200 treasure hunt is so cool. We've done that for India 0:04:13.240 --> 0:04:16.599 a few times, like different different special occasions. We've had like, yeah, 0:04:16.760 --> 0:04:18.560 clues that we hired and it's so fun. 0:04:18.680 --> 0:04:19.120 It's fun. 0:04:19.240 --> 0:04:21.279 Yeah, my parents did that. Once I got to the end, 0:04:21.320 --> 0:04:23.359 there was nothing there. They're like, yeah, life disappoints you. 0:04:23.520 --> 0:04:25.279 Oh God, life less. 0:04:25.720 --> 0:04:28.640 Happy birthday, Happy birthday son. That never happened for I know, 0:04:28.800 --> 0:04:31.320 I know, you know, we know your parents well enough. 0:04:31.160 --> 0:04:32.200 To never do that. 0:04:32.360 --> 0:04:34.560 They would never do that, not to the baby of 0:04:34.600 --> 0:04:35.640 the family, not to me. 0:04:36.080 --> 0:04:38.839 Will will change. We put them on a bus and 0:04:38.880 --> 0:04:39.719 send them to New York. 0:04:40.760 --> 0:04:41.480 It smokes. 0:04:42.000 --> 0:04:43.320 Make some money for this family. 0:04:43.520 --> 0:04:46.320 I had to fly. I hadn't spread my wings and fly. 0:04:46.400 --> 0:04:46.880 It's just the way. 0:04:47.880 --> 0:04:48.920 Welcome to Pod meets World. 0:04:48.960 --> 0:04:51.760 I'm Daniel Fishal, I'm right or strong, and I'm Wilfordell. 0:04:52.400 --> 0:04:55.320 As a child actor, you hire an agent, missed school 0:04:55.480 --> 0:04:59.039 sit an endless freeway traffic audition for judge strangers, and 0:04:59.120 --> 0:05:02.920 in turn more knows than door to door room temperature 0:05:03.040 --> 0:05:09.960 salmon salesman. That's even mean you don't know about the 0:05:10.000 --> 0:05:12.359 temperature room temperature salmon salesman. 0:05:12.960 --> 0:05:15.520 I did not. I was unaware that this was a profession. 0:05:15.760 --> 0:05:19.440 Surprise. Now imagine the results of this career path somehow 0:05:19.480 --> 0:05:23.800 doesn't end in disappointment like a large percentage of your competition. Instead, 0:05:23.839 --> 0:05:25.760 you end up starring in a hit sitcom and become 0:05:25.839 --> 0:05:30.200 part of the expansive Beethoven cinematic universe, which, let's be honest, 0:05:30.520 --> 0:05:33.840 is as close to young actor royalty as you can get. 0:05:34.040 --> 0:05:36.960 She grew up on sets alongside her twin brother, who 0:05:37.080 --> 0:05:41.240 also somehow established an amazing career, both as a child 0:05:41.320 --> 0:05:44.600 and ever since. She was around for the summer blockbuster 0:05:44.720 --> 0:05:48.440 era and the days when a staggering fifteen million viewers 0:05:48.680 --> 0:05:52.640 barely got her show than nanny to crack Nielsen's Top twenty. 0:05:53.000 --> 0:05:56.280 She's best known as Maggie Sheffield, the older sister that 0:05:56.360 --> 0:05:59.920 Fran Fine aka Fran Dresher was hired to look after, 0:06:00.360 --> 0:06:02.679 but has since been on shows like Masters of Sex, 0:06:02.839 --> 0:06:08.040 Criminal Minds, and Good American Family. Oh, she's also super Girl. 0:06:08.320 --> 0:06:10.680 But now she's here talking to us about all of 0:06:10.680 --> 0:06:13.760 those memories. So this week on pod Meets World, let's 0:06:13.760 --> 0:06:15.320 say hello to Nicole Tom. 0:06:16.839 --> 0:06:20.600 Hello, why who? 0:06:21.120 --> 0:06:22.560 How are you? Good to see you? 0:06:23.680 --> 0:06:27.520 Nice to see all of you. I'm looking at everybody's backdrop, 0:06:27.920 --> 0:06:28.080 I know. 0:06:28.120 --> 0:06:30.080 Mean, you have so much going on in yours. 0:06:30.240 --> 0:06:32.120 You look like you're in a place where they would 0:06:32.120 --> 0:06:36.720 give psychic readings. Do you do tarot card readings out 0:06:36.720 --> 0:06:37.000 of there? 0:06:38.240 --> 0:06:40.640 No? And I've never been given the deck. 0:06:40.440 --> 0:06:44.359 Either or this is a missed opportunity I know. 0:06:44.680 --> 0:06:49.000 And my friends actually I have two friends that have 0:06:49.120 --> 0:06:55.799 their own, uh Tarot cards. Yeah, and they have actual photos. 0:06:55.920 --> 0:07:00.240 Like so weird that you would mentioned tarot cards like 0:07:00.279 --> 0:07:01.680 a psychic. 0:07:01.880 --> 0:07:03.640 I feel like you need to have your own eight 0:07:03.720 --> 0:07:05.120 hundred number at the bottom of. 0:07:05.080 --> 0:07:06.080 Your stream right now. 0:07:06.240 --> 0:07:09.600 I would totally call you for a psychic breathing, right, 0:07:10.840 --> 0:07:15.840 miss Tom yeah, see I like this. 0:07:16.120 --> 0:07:19.200 You should have just come in sideways going past lives. 0:07:22.840 --> 0:07:27.400 The crystal balls. I mean, it's just gorgeous. 0:07:27.440 --> 0:07:29.160 Is this your house? Sorry to keep harping on it, 0:07:29.200 --> 0:07:29.880 is this your house? 0:07:29.880 --> 0:07:32.760 It's just beautiful my crafting garage. 0:07:33.160 --> 0:07:33.520 Nice? 0:07:34.040 --> 0:07:36.800 I just I love this. 0:07:37.680 --> 0:07:39.239 It's really crazy. 0:07:39.440 --> 0:07:43.720 It's very cool looking. Honestly, I really like this. 0:07:43.760 --> 0:07:47.640 It's nice. But yeah, and you guys, I mean the 0:07:48.040 --> 0:07:51.120 two boys they have, you know, Will and right they 0:07:51.760 --> 0:07:52.440 you guys. 0:07:52.160 --> 0:07:54.440 Have a lot going on, dark and stormy, dark and 0:07:54.520 --> 0:07:57.480 stormy back there, yeah, both of them. Will's in a 0:07:57.520 --> 0:08:02.960 batcave and and writers in a in a book dungeon. Uh. Yeah, 0:08:03.800 --> 0:08:05.360 Mine is to be a little brighter because I also 0:08:05.440 --> 0:08:10.240 have to use it for QVC, so wow QVC. Yeah, 0:08:10.280 --> 0:08:12.280 I have a haircare line and we sell on QVC, 0:08:12.360 --> 0:08:13.880 so I sometimes I have to do it from zoom 0:08:13.880 --> 0:08:16.320 when I can't make it all the way out to Philadelphia. 0:08:16.720 --> 0:08:18.720 Everything behind Danielle is currently for sale. 0:08:20.040 --> 0:08:23.400 Exactly would be dazzled Voss water. 0:08:23.600 --> 0:08:23.760 Yeah. 0:08:23.800 --> 0:08:25.320 I just got this at the Dancing with the Stars 0:08:25.360 --> 0:08:28.000 twentieth anniversary party. 0:08:28.000 --> 0:08:31.480 One these pears on the. 0:08:32.400 --> 0:08:33.959 Oh, look at that you do? 0:08:34.040 --> 0:08:34.280 Wait? 0:08:34.320 --> 0:08:38.040 Are those pears yeah, yeah, cool. 0:08:38.320 --> 0:08:40.319 This is my my Pears chandelier. 0:08:40.360 --> 0:08:42.120 That did you make that whole chandelier? 0:08:42.840 --> 0:08:45.400 I did I make crazy chandeliers? 0:08:45.800 --> 0:08:47.520 Wow? Do you have a business doing this? 0:08:48.720 --> 0:08:48.800 No? 0:08:48.920 --> 0:08:52.400 I just do it for fun. I mean I am 0:08:52.480 --> 0:08:56.200 going to be selling some stuff on my friend's website. 0:08:56.440 --> 0:08:59.880 Yeah WTF dot com? 0:09:00.040 --> 0:09:03.040 Okay, when where can Well? I want to send everyone 0:09:03.080 --> 0:09:04.960 to this also me. I want I want to I 0:09:04.960 --> 0:09:07.160 want an early advanced link because I want to buy 0:09:07.160 --> 0:09:08.680 one of your crazy chandeliers. 0:09:09.440 --> 0:09:13.080 Well, I mean, I've just been This year has been nuts, 0:09:13.160 --> 0:09:17.640 I'm sure for buddy, but yeah, I'm not. I'm just 0:09:17.720 --> 0:09:19.839 now getting back into like I'm going to be taking 0:09:19.880 --> 0:09:23.600 some photos of some of my you know, artwork at 0:09:23.600 --> 0:09:28.360 an art show earlier on in the year. The chandeliers 0:09:28.360 --> 0:09:32.839 in there, there's a cactus one that I sold. I 0:09:32.880 --> 0:09:35.000 don't know if you can see it. There's a lot 0:09:35.080 --> 0:09:35.520 going on. 0:09:35.600 --> 0:09:38.079 I do see that cactus now that you've pointed it out. 0:09:38.320 --> 0:09:39.160 That's so cool. 0:09:39.640 --> 0:09:43.720 But I'm going to put a partridge in this Paris 0:09:43.840 --> 0:09:45.280 chandelier for Christmas time. 0:09:47.240 --> 0:09:53.400 Yeah, so let's jump in. I want to talk about 0:09:53.600 --> 0:09:59.000 your Hollywood origin story. You were raised in Illinois, right 0:09:59.040 --> 0:10:01.760 with your twin brother David, and you both have the 0:10:01.840 --> 0:10:05.320 dream of acting in Hollywood. So how did that dream 0:10:05.880 --> 0:10:08.640 my older sister Heather of course, and your sister as well, 0:10:09.120 --> 0:10:11.640 how did it all come about? Who started it? Who 0:10:11.720 --> 0:10:14.160 raised their hand and said I want to go to Hollywood? 0:10:14.960 --> 0:10:17.920 Oh gosh, my mom probably. 0:10:17.880 --> 0:10:22.439 Okay, yeah, first and foremost an adult, yes. 0:10:23.280 --> 0:10:27.319 But well we started off in Chicago in oak Park, 0:10:29.000 --> 0:10:34.559 which is, you know, home of Einstein. And then my dad, 0:10:34.720 --> 0:10:41.079 my dad was a stockbroker, and the stock market crashed, uh, 0:10:41.480 --> 0:10:48.160 and so we had to skip town, and so we 0:10:48.240 --> 0:10:51.520 went to the Seattle. My dad went to Settle and 0:10:52.840 --> 0:10:55.200 it was still a stockbroker there. And my mom was 0:10:55.240 --> 0:11:00.120 always like, really into She always wanted to be an actress. 0:11:01.640 --> 0:11:05.959 And she was really good too, I mean, she was beautiful, 0:11:08.440 --> 0:11:10.800 but she never, like her parents always wanted her to 0:11:10.800 --> 0:11:11.640 be a teacher. 0:11:11.880 --> 0:11:12.080 Yeah. 0:11:12.160 --> 0:11:15.240 Yeah, she went to the school to be a teacher, 0:11:15.360 --> 0:11:18.520 and she was a speech therapist. But she brought the 0:11:18.679 --> 0:11:22.480 arts into her teaching, like by doing puppet shows and 0:11:22.960 --> 0:11:25.960 she made her own puppets, which I think I is 0:11:26.000 --> 0:11:31.560 where I got my craftiness from. Now all of her 0:11:31.600 --> 0:11:35.240 puppets are my Christmas ornaments that is so cool. 0:11:35.440 --> 0:11:36.040 So that's cool. 0:11:36.200 --> 0:11:39.720 All scary because you know some of them, you know 0:11:39.800 --> 0:11:43.160 they're from a long time ago and it's just the heads. 0:11:43.400 --> 0:11:47.319 But it's just heads, like in the. 0:11:47.280 --> 0:11:53.800 Tree Christmas horror film old Christmas decor is. I don't 0:11:53.800 --> 0:11:56.000 know why it was all so creepy looking. We had 0:11:56.040 --> 0:11:58.120 a lot, We have a lot of my mother in 0:11:58.240 --> 0:12:02.480 law's old christ Missus dolls and my husband's like, oh, 0:12:02.520 --> 0:12:05.360 these are so beautiful and I'm like, no, they're not. 0:12:05.760 --> 0:12:09.360 You just have nostalgia for them, but they are terrifying. 0:12:09.840 --> 0:12:12.960 Yeah. Their paper mache, which is really cool. I would 0:12:13.000 --> 0:12:15.080 love to learn how to paper mache. 0:12:15.240 --> 0:12:18.760 Okay, no, I no, I know how to do absolutely no. 0:12:18.880 --> 0:12:20.280 Back in the day, I mean I was like, I 0:12:20.280 --> 0:12:23.439 remember making yet to make a paper mache like volcano 0:12:23.520 --> 0:12:25.920 that would work for school and stuff. 0:12:25.960 --> 0:12:29.319 So yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm sure there's a YouTube video 0:12:29.360 --> 0:12:31.920 that could show you how to paper mache. Yeah yeah, 0:12:32.040 --> 0:12:34.120 especially since you're so crafty, I think you pick it 0:12:34.200 --> 0:12:35.160 up real fast. 0:12:35.360 --> 0:12:40.319 I would totally be interested in that YouTube video anyways. Okay, 0:12:40.360 --> 0:12:44.480 so we moved to Seattle and we we stayed there 0:12:44.720 --> 0:12:49.440 for two years. My mom became an assistant or like 0:12:49.559 --> 0:12:53.319 chanced toed the phone at an agency, the Lala Holloway Agency. 0:12:53.800 --> 0:12:54.760 I remember that name. 0:12:55.360 --> 0:13:02.360 Met my Uh, this guy Michael who was really who 0:13:02.400 --> 0:13:05.880 was a commercial agent. He was he was an agent 0:13:05.960 --> 0:13:09.600 there and then he he would always come down to 0:13:09.640 --> 0:13:13.000 California for pilot season, like when there was a pilot season, 0:13:14.160 --> 0:13:17.880 and uh, he was like, oh you should. And we 0:13:17.880 --> 0:13:21.560 were always us kids. We were always in acting class. 0:13:21.600 --> 0:13:27.720 But I was kind of a shy child and sort 0:13:27.760 --> 0:13:32.000 of you know, I guess maybe in my own world 0:13:32.360 --> 0:13:34.959 a little bit. I like to I like to make 0:13:35.000 --> 0:13:40.000 believe and climb trees with my hamster and and that 0:13:40.120 --> 0:13:43.599 I was in like a different land in my treehouse 0:13:46.200 --> 0:13:49.160 and the come up with and I actually made like 0:13:49.160 --> 0:13:52.080 a fort underneath the house, which I'm like, I can't 0:13:52.120 --> 0:13:56.800 believe I did that. Yeah, because there's no way I 0:13:56.840 --> 0:14:02.600 would go underneath my house now. I used to in Seattle. Anyways, 0:14:02.720 --> 0:14:06.080 my mom always thought that I was really shy and 0:14:07.640 --> 0:14:10.280 but uh and so she but my brother and my 0:14:10.320 --> 0:14:14.439 sister were really the outgoing and they loved that they 0:14:14.440 --> 0:14:18.240 were like they booked commercials and like they were really 0:14:18.320 --> 0:14:22.320 cute kids. And I like had a perm and braces 0:14:22.360 --> 0:14:27.560 and was sort of awkward, you know, kind of finding 0:14:27.560 --> 0:14:32.240 myself as we do. Yeah, and so I mean I 0:14:32.320 --> 0:14:38.120 never booked a commercial or anything. And so it was 0:14:38.200 --> 0:14:42.720 really my brother and my sister that that. Uh Michael 0:14:43.120 --> 0:14:45.160 was like, oh, well, you know, they should come down 0:14:45.200 --> 0:14:48.560 for pilot season to to you know, check it out, 0:14:48.640 --> 0:14:51.080 see see what happens, and you can stay with me 0:14:51.840 --> 0:14:58.760 in his studio apartment with his cat Twinkle Posts, oh 0:14:58.840 --> 0:15:06.000 my god, who was actually nicknamed Tinkletoes because coupeed on everything. 0:15:06.160 --> 0:15:09.720 Oh gosh. 0:15:08.640 --> 0:15:08.840 Yeah. 0:15:09.800 --> 0:15:14.560 And anyways, so my mom did that and she brought 0:15:14.560 --> 0:15:16.680 my She brought my brother and my sister because they were, 0:15:18.000 --> 0:15:21.720 you know, booking commercials and everything. And uh, for the 0:15:22.240 --> 0:15:24.760 she pretty much abandoned me, you and your. 0:15:24.720 --> 0:15:27.200 Dad in Seattle, Seattle. 0:15:28.440 --> 0:15:31.480 But it was fine, No, she didn't. I'm just joking. 0:15:32.640 --> 0:15:37.880 And uh, my my sister ended up well. First it 0:15:37.960 --> 0:15:41.200 was my brother that booked a play during pilot season, 0:15:41.280 --> 0:15:47.120 which was half good with Judy Davis. And and then 0:15:47.160 --> 0:15:53.880 my sister booked Who's the Boss. But she was the 0:15:53.920 --> 0:15:57.200 first Danny Pintaro's first kiss. 0:15:57.440 --> 0:15:58.080 A cool. 0:15:59.320 --> 0:16:04.480 But they kept booking things. It kept them, it kept us, 0:16:04.760 --> 0:16:09.720 you know, them down in California. Longer, and then finally 0:16:09.720 --> 0:16:13.760 my mom, you know, was came back and got me. 0:16:15.240 --> 0:16:17.440 She's like, I want to go pick up Nicole. 0:16:17.640 --> 0:16:20.480 Yeah. And things weren't all that great, you know, between 0:16:20.480 --> 0:16:23.560 my mom and my dad, they were you know, going 0:16:23.600 --> 0:16:32.520 through some yeah, hard times. Okay, so uh it just 0:16:32.840 --> 0:16:37.080 it the more that we started. Then I was put 0:16:37.080 --> 0:16:40.720 into acting class where and my sister and my brother 0:16:40.720 --> 0:16:43.360 were put into acting class as well, where I met. 0:16:43.440 --> 0:16:51.640 Writer a Space Shiloh and like pretty much anybody who 0:16:51.760 --> 0:16:56.200 was working as a child back in the day with 0:16:56.320 --> 0:17:01.680 Diane Harden and Eckstein who were then became managers. 0:17:01.840 --> 0:17:05.159 And but I was put into acting class for like 0:17:05.280 --> 0:17:10.080 three years before I was even sent out for anything 0:17:10.480 --> 0:17:15.400 because they just you know, it was like they kind 0:17:15.440 --> 0:17:18.760 of thought that I was a shy. I mean when 0:17:18.800 --> 0:17:25.879 I was brought down to California, I uh, I I 0:17:26.000 --> 0:17:30.120 sort of you know, I would go out at night 0:17:30.160 --> 0:17:34.640 and like climb into the stairwell at the oak Woods 0:17:34.720 --> 0:17:37.400 and just like daydream like fifle. 0:17:41.760 --> 0:17:44.960 Woods that happened at the oak Woods. 0:17:45.880 --> 0:17:46.640 Yeah. 0:17:47.520 --> 0:17:49.960 And did you, I mean, did you want to act? 0:17:50.280 --> 0:17:53.320 Or so you did? Okay. 0:17:53.800 --> 0:17:58.040 We used to put on plays back in Seattle. We 0:17:58.119 --> 0:18:01.359 have this Muppet Book. Do you know if the book 0:18:01.800 --> 0:18:05.040 it's the Great Muppet Book. It was great, and it 0:18:05.119 --> 0:18:10.960 had like all of the Muppets scenes like in it 0:18:11.080 --> 0:18:14.679 where Kermit says this, and you know miss Piggy says that, 0:18:15.240 --> 0:18:19.199 and then in Gonzo, and I was I was always 0:18:19.200 --> 0:18:22.520 the initiator of like, oh, let's do let's do one 0:18:22.560 --> 0:18:25.680 of the plays from uh, the Muppet Book. 0:18:26.440 --> 0:18:26.840 And so. 0:18:28.480 --> 0:18:32.560 I was always interested in it. But I don't think 0:18:32.560 --> 0:18:37.280 that my I mean the people they didn't really see 0:18:37.280 --> 0:18:37.840 it in you. 0:18:38.119 --> 0:18:40.200 Weren't the most obvious choice. 0:18:40.600 --> 0:18:43.320 Right, because I was kind of shy, shy. 0:18:43.280 --> 0:18:44.639 In your own in your own world. 0:18:45.119 --> 0:18:49.000 Yeah, and so Gary Spats, I wasn't. Were you having 0:18:49.080 --> 0:18:50.680 Gary Spats's class writer? 0:18:50.960 --> 0:18:51.720 No? 0:18:51.720 --> 0:18:57.640 No, well he uh he was in contact with Judy Savage, 0:18:57.640 --> 0:19:01.639 who was our first agent. Was she your first agent? 0:19:02.680 --> 0:19:02.920 Not my? 0:19:03.080 --> 0:19:06.119 She was writer's first agent. She was not my first agent. 0:19:06.160 --> 0:19:08.240 I was with Kelman Arletta first, but then when I 0:19:08.320 --> 0:19:10.639 was when I was on Boy Meets World, then I 0:19:10.680 --> 0:19:11.120 signed with. 0:19:13.240 --> 0:19:17.159 Yeah, she had everybody. 0:19:17.680 --> 0:19:18.400 She's the greatest. 0:19:18.920 --> 0:19:19.880 Yeah, I love. 0:19:20.560 --> 0:19:23.120 So when you did start acting, did you find yourself 0:19:23.119 --> 0:19:25.480 competitive with your siblings at all? Or No? 0:19:28.200 --> 0:19:32.320 I never was I don't. I don't think so, because 0:19:32.359 --> 0:19:35.600 my sister was always We're so different. I mean me 0:19:35.640 --> 0:19:43.240 and my sister com completely different. My sister, uh, I 0:19:43.240 --> 0:19:47.440 mean she's I guess maybe I'm like a big kid 0:19:47.520 --> 0:19:48.000 at heart. 0:19:49.000 --> 0:19:51.280 I really as will that's me. 0:19:52.080 --> 0:19:57.439 Yeah, but I am, you know, I embraced that. I 0:19:57.480 --> 0:20:01.560 love I have to like very young energy. My sister 0:20:01.640 --> 0:20:06.760 has always been like the older sister, you know, the 0:20:06.800 --> 0:20:11.000 matriar arch of the family. He's just always been more serious. 0:20:11.520 --> 0:20:15.840 And she was the firstborn, right, Yes, yeah, that's that 0:20:15.960 --> 0:20:16.480 kind of you. 0:20:16.480 --> 0:20:19.120 You have that kind of archetype where it's the firstborn 0:20:19.200 --> 0:20:22.240 always tends to take on the responsible role and there 0:20:22.320 --> 0:20:24.399 they are adults from the time that they're you know, 0:20:24.480 --> 0:20:27.200 even kids, they embrace being an adult at an early age. 0:20:27.240 --> 0:20:29.040 I think that's that's pretty normal. My brother's like. 0:20:29.080 --> 0:20:31.200 That too, Yeah, your older brother. 0:20:31.480 --> 0:20:34.960 Yeah, my oldest brother. He instantly took that kind of 0:20:35.600 --> 0:20:36.920 adult role right away. 0:20:37.560 --> 0:20:40.400 So how shortly after you end up making your way 0:20:40.440 --> 0:20:42.439 out to LA and you're staying at the oak Woods, 0:20:42.440 --> 0:20:44.639 how shortly after do you start guest starring on shows 0:20:44.680 --> 0:20:46.840 like Fresh Prince in Beverly Hills nine O two one. 0:20:46.880 --> 0:20:51.080 Oh well, okay. So I was put into acting class 0:20:51.119 --> 0:20:53.760 for three years and then finally somebody believed in me 0:20:54.000 --> 0:20:57.600 and they're like, you know what, she's ready, she's ready out. 0:20:57.680 --> 0:21:00.680 And thank god that they did wait for me, because 0:21:00.720 --> 0:21:06.520 I probably wasn't ready to start auditioning, you know. And 0:21:06.600 --> 0:21:12.639 then when I did, I my my first audition was 0:21:13.320 --> 0:21:17.879 for I'll Fly Away, which was a TV show and 0:21:17.960 --> 0:21:21.359 I went to network on it. I was like, God, 0:21:22.680 --> 0:21:29.000 this is but I didn't get it. And and then 0:21:29.160 --> 0:21:37.640 my second audition was for Beethoven. Second audition, Yeah, and 0:21:38.200 --> 0:21:46.000 I auditioned. I auditioned a few times for that, and god, 0:21:46.119 --> 0:21:51.520 it was I started everything because uh then I then 0:21:51.600 --> 0:21:56.000 after that I auditioned for but then you know, the 0:21:56.040 --> 0:22:01.760 Fresh Prince came along. And it's so random, though, because 0:22:02.800 --> 0:22:08.840 there's so many weird connections in my life. My sister's 0:22:08.840 --> 0:22:12.840 first job, Who's the Boss. The people from Who's the Boss, 0:22:13.520 --> 0:22:19.680 Rob Sterning and Prudence Frasier, they were the showrunners or 0:22:20.280 --> 0:22:22.439 I think they were the showrunners of Who's the Boss. 0:22:23.480 --> 0:22:27.800 But then they moved onto The Nanny and they were 0:22:30.040 --> 0:22:34.240 creators with Fran and Peter for The Nanny. So it's 0:22:34.320 --> 0:22:38.480 like there's that Weird Connection and then the Fresh Prince. 0:22:38.560 --> 0:22:42.720 When I got or when I got Beethoven. The wardrobe 0:22:42.760 --> 0:22:47.040 stylist was Terry and I can't remember her last name 0:22:47.119 --> 0:22:52.760 right now. Uh, but she was the wardrobe stylist on 0:22:52.880 --> 0:22:56.280 The Nanny, the first one. She worked with Brenda Cooper 0:22:58.080 --> 0:23:02.639 and then Fresh Prince of bel Air. The director of 0:23:02.680 --> 0:23:08.199 the episode that I was in, Uh, Lee Challotte. 0:23:07.800 --> 0:23:11.280 Oh, Lee Challett, Cemo, Lee Challettchmo's great. Yeah, she's wonderful. 0:23:11.800 --> 0:23:17.119