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Speaker 1: Two teas in a pod which Teddy Mellencamp and Tamra Judge.

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Speaker 2: Hi, guys, welcome to another episode of Jude Tees and

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Speaker 2: the Pod with myself, Teddy Mellencamp and Aamora Judge. Tama,

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Speaker 2: you're in your Kansas City shirt? Where are you?

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Speaker 3: What are you doing Kansas City? I'm getting ammonia, I think,

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Speaker 3: is what I'm doing here. Yeah. Well, I was sick

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Speaker 3: when I came, but I thought I was going to

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Speaker 3: be okay.

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Speaker 2: And I feel like everyone is sick right now and

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Speaker 2: it's kind of going in waves. Like I was feeling

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Speaker 2: better for a couple of days. Then I hit a

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Speaker 2: like then all of a sudden, I'm like, why am

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Speaker 2: I congested again? Why am I coughing again?

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Speaker 3: I throw is raw, my chest hurts.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, do you follow Jinny Mullen, who's married to

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Speaker 2: Jason Biggs. No, Oh, my gosh. She did this post

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Speaker 2: where she was on an airplane and like halfway through

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Speaker 2: the airplane, she was like, my head's itching, and her

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Speaker 2: friend or assistant or whomever was sitting next to her

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Speaker 2: looked in her head and saw that she had lice. Oh.

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Speaker 2: She was posting about him from the plane, and I'm like, oh, hell, noun.

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Speaker 3: You imagine did she get it on the plane or she.

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Speaker 2: No, I guess her her kids friends had it or something.

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Speaker 2: I'm not gonna fully remember the story. I just remember

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Speaker 2: watching it being like, oh my gosh. And she didn't

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Speaker 2: really think anything of it, and she thought she just

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Speaker 2: had dry skin. And so then she was all of

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Speaker 2: a sudden sitting next to her adult friend and she's like,

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Speaker 2: I feel like something is up with my scalp, Like

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Speaker 2: it's just driving me nuts.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 2: But then all the people on the plane were like, well,

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Speaker 2: thanks a lot for getting on the plane with fucking lice.

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Speaker 2: Granted I have had adult lice before.

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Speaker 3: Wait, there's a difference between adult license are they?

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Speaker 2: I mean like when I wasn't in school, No, my

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Speaker 2: kids had lice and so I paid for that. There's

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Speaker 2: this thing called lice berries and they come and they like,

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Speaker 2: come to your house and check your hair. So I

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Speaker 3: Only in La oh yeah.

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Speaker 2: But then like a week later they had it again

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Speaker 2: and I'm like, shoot, they didn't get it all out.

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Speaker 2: So then I had them check me and that was

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Speaker 2: I had. I only had two lice, but they were

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Speaker 2: there and I'm unwell, how do you too, Like, I

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Speaker 2: guess there's like two. I don't know if it's larvae

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Speaker 2: or eggs or whatever, but like they combed all your

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Speaker 2: hair out and they found two. So anyways, watch out

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Speaker 2: for life, guys. My our producer just said, I wish

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Speaker 2: you would have told me this before I came over.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure Caden feels the same way about your pneumonia.

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Speaker 2: All right, well we are getting into headlines, and Potomac

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Speaker 2: first headline. It's a positive one. Congratulations Lindsay Hubbard.

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Speaker 3: She is now a mom.

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Speaker 2: She is now a mama. She welcomes her first baby,

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Speaker 2: a girl, with her boyfriend. She shared the exciting news

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Speaker 2: on her Instagram photo of herself and her partner holding

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Speaker 2: their little one's hand. Her name is Jemma britt coof.

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Speaker 2: Is that how we pronounce it? Or cuff?

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Speaker 3: That's quite a name.

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Speaker 2: I love the name Gemma. It's so cute.

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Speaker 3: I know a Gemma. So then I'm like ebody.

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Speaker 2: That has a name, And You're like, that's the problem

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Speaker 2: with names, Like you could love a name and then

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Speaker 2: all of a sudden you meet somebody with that name

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Speaker 2: and you have a bad interaction and then all of

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Speaker 2: a sudden, the name is dead to you.

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Speaker 3: Uh huh.

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Speaker 2: But I don't know any gemas.

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Speaker 3: I don't think oh the name that he thinks really

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Speaker 3: paved the way for reality TV, and that's his wife.

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Speaker 3: So Joe Gorga claims that Melissa Gorga didn't just star

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Speaker 3: on House in New Jersey, she practically invented the blueprint

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Speaker 3: bow down, bow down to the queen. Yeah, so I'm

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Speaker 3: Melissa's podcast on display, Melissa and Joe discussed Miami Kiky's

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Speaker 3: Bar's accusation of Melissa buying her followers. I think it

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Speaker 3: was more like him just sticking up for his.

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Speaker 2: Wife, right, But he probably could have said it differently.

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Speaker 2: I mean, like, in my opinion, real world role rules

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Speaker 2: started reality television, Like we can go back to those

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Speaker 3: Lifestyles of the rich and famous.

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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, I'm surprised they haven't brought that back yet.

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Speaker 3: I know, I know, And well, Melissa did acknowledge her

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Speaker 3: high follower count, and they're better than a high body count, right.

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Speaker 2: Right, a high hairdo body count.

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Speaker 3: Yes, it might be because of her multiple business ventures. Meanwhile,

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Speaker 3: I didn't think any of that mattered. He argued that

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Speaker 3: the new BABA lab should note from Melissa, well, you

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Speaker 3: know what, he loves his wife. I'm not sure that

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Speaker 3: that's entirely true, but.

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Speaker 2: I mean, and also at the end of the day,

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Speaker 2: but follower count and gate like good, I don't know

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Speaker 2: that that has one has anything to do with the other.

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Speaker 2: I think somebody could be a really great housewife but

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Speaker 2: not be very good on Instagram and vice versa, vice versa.

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Speaker 2: This next one is Nicole Murphy, fifty six year old

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Speaker 2: model an ex wife of Eddie Murphy, is spending time

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Speaker 2: with Marcus jordan. On Friday, December sixth, the fifty six

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Speaker 2: year old model and the thirty three year old son

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Speaker 2: of Michael Jordan or spotted hanging out together at DJ

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Speaker 2: Khalid's second annual We the Best Foundation. The pair moved

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Speaker 2: onto the club eleven.

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Speaker 3: It's just eleven.

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Speaker 2: Oh, it's eleven, but with two ones. Guys, I'm the smartest.

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Speaker 3: Eleven really likes him an older housewife, doesn't he?

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Speaker 2: Well? He, I mean, I also, been hanging out with

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Speaker 2: somebody at a club doesn't necessarily mean that you're together.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 2: They could have just hit it off, and then you

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Speaker 2: know clubman, yea at eleven eleven, whether it's the club

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Speaker 2: or what time somebody goes out, it's too late for me.

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Speaker 2: And no thank you on Marcus Jordan, but thank you to.

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Speaker 3: Some of the people. Larca was older than him, and

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Speaker 3: then I guess the girlfriend before Larson was older than him.

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Speaker 3: So he likes himself some some Yeah, what do they

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Speaker 2: MILFs under club in the club? Okay, so now we're

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Speaker 2: getting into oh something else we should maybe discuss for

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Speaker 2: a second, and not in a mean way. I am.

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Speaker 2: I really am concerned about what what was that post

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Speaker 3: I don't which one.

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Speaker 2: Well, there's one that said the way worse things happened

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Speaker 2: like the video of all of you guys dancing on

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Speaker 3: Well, I didn't she said sicket, which I didn't quite

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Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. What is it I think that.

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Speaker 3: She's made several comments to other people that stress is

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Speaker 3: doing this to her and what brovvox, according her words,

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Speaker 3: I don't know what's wrong. I've never seen anything like that.

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Speaker 2: Well, her tweet after said, what happened? I wish I knew.

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Speaker 2: I've been in and out of the hospital this past

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Speaker 2: figure it out. Some doctors say I have a parasite

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Speaker 2: that jumps around my face. Some say it's stressed induced

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Speaker 2: a edema. I personally say, it's bravo. This is from Brandy.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I mean there's part of me that things

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Speaker 2: That's the hard thing when you when you post a

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean sorry for her, whatever the situation is.

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Speaker 3: I mean, that can't be easy. Yeah, it's like no,

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Speaker 3: it was like flesh eating.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, but I do think it could be

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Speaker 3: A doctor out there that can help her. Yeah. Kristin

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Speaker 2: Girl. All right, Well, congratulations Kristin. Yeah, she's got to

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Speaker 2: be really happy. There's a lot of so there's gonna

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Speaker 2: be a lot of pregnancy on the Valley.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, especially you get on that show.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god. Oh yeah, I'm hoping to have another

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Speaker 2: baby real quick. Absolutely not close to God.

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Speaker 3: If you do, I'm gonna disown you. You do not

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Speaker 3: have to deal with a pregnant Teddy.

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Speaker 2: I couldn't deal with a pregnant Teddy. No, absolutely not.

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Speaker 2: That's you may have to worry about a lot of

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Speaker 2: things when it comes to me, But me being pregnant, Ye,

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Speaker 2: not going to happen. Not going to happen. Well, now,

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Speaker 2: our aunto Giselle is going to court to have her

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Speaker 2: dad's will thrown out. The will did not leave anything

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Speaker 2: to her family. So this story is really few well

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Speaker 3: Oh it's disturbed. But she's also not given us all

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Speaker 3: the information. So obviously somebody in the family or maybe

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Speaker 3: her dad was involved with somebody changed the will a

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Speaker 3: and it's it's noted who changed it, but one that

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Speaker 3: either somebody her dad was maybe dating or married to.

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Speaker 3: somebody a family member that went in there and changed it.

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Speaker 3: She's just not saying it because you're going to know

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Speaker 3: who the money is going to and where it's going,

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Speaker 3: and it's going to tell you.

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Speaker 2: And I maybe she's not allowed to say who did it.

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Speaker 3: Well, that's what I'm thinking, which makes it even more confusing.

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean the fact she said it was two

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Speaker 2: close to him had a new will signed, and even

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Speaker 3: I'm trying to say, like where his assets are going.

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Speaker 3: She didn't say who did it. She knows who did it.

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Speaker 3: There's no doubt in my mind. She knows who did it,

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Speaker 3: because whoever that money is going to is who did it.

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Speaker 2: It made me sad to even think about having to

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Speaker 2: have those conversations and now fighting in court for it.

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Speaker 3: And I just had this conversation with my mom because

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Speaker 3: she has no will, she's no trust, no will, nothing.

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Speaker 3: So I'm like, Mom, you need to like you need

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And it's not saying that it needs to all

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Speaker 2: go to Tamera, but it's saying, get it done right.

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Speaker 2: This is a necessity.

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Speaker 3: While Giselle was on Watch What Happens Live last night

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Speaker 3: and she said that Mia is dead to her, and

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Speaker 3: after what she said about her.

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Speaker 2: Daughters, well that was fucked up.

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Speaker 3: Well Mia is fucked up. She's fucked up this entire season.

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Speaker 2: But also like what girls that are like eighteen years

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Speaker 3: But he's just the flashbacks of him telling Stacy, I'm

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Speaker 3: You know what I think. I think he's doing his job.

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Speaker 3: Yeah? That too.

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Speaker 2: It's the way how quickly he can flip a switch

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Speaker 2: It was something I don't know. It was like a

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Speaker 2: The I mean I would have rather been on any

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Speaker 3: Than would you rather been on a date with TJ?

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Speaker 3: Or where Wendy's outfit?

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Speaker 2: Fuck? I mean, my I'm already have you know, do

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Speaker 3: It was like it was blown up. I'm like what

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Speaker 2: I mean that I got ybbed. She got robbed, and

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Speaker 3: This is beyond. This is beyond like and I think

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't need my shoulders to be

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Speaker 2: Hopefully she can wear something similar to the reunion. Wendy,

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Speaker 2: That conversation goes fine, Then I want to talk a

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Speaker 2: This scene is the most loving I've seen the two

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Speaker 2: Now, Yeah, she was blaming Ray for essentially he wasn't

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Speaker 1: My.

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Speaker 3: Oh hell. She's smart enough though that we have not

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we can't say that that's the same for all housewives,

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Speaker 3: I mean, if you get a dui, the best thing

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it doesn't help. Then we get to Okay, this

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Speaker 3: It makes no sense. How many Okay, so we should

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Speaker 3: Yes, I mean he makes more sense than she does.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, then Mia says Gordon asked her to get

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Speaker 3: I don't know. I'm not believing Mia Mia anymore me

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Speaker 2: And then Mia says she doesn't believe Inc is Jeremi

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Speaker 3: And then I think that Ink is the father of Jeremiah.

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Speaker 3: Why would she bring it up and put it on

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Speaker 2: Well, Gordon brought it up originally at the reunion, but

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Speaker 3: She's just like, hmm, I mean, it's so inappropriated and

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Speaker 2: And then she goes, I mean, I think he's probably

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Speaker 3: Oh, I know, it's like to read without I don't know.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, let's.

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Speaker 2: Let's I mean, the speed dating was fun, but then

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I liked it, but I don't think it went

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Speaker 2: Do you think that Gizelle made a love connection with

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Speaker 2: I don't think so. I think I think i'd have

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Speaker 3: can tell, Like I could tell within three minutes if

438
00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:47,160
Speaker 3: I'm not like somebody. I can also tell if they're

439
00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:49,600
Speaker 3: a criminal, if they're a cheater. I could figure it

440
00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:52,480
Speaker 3: all out in three minutes. It's a gift from God.

441
00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:55,440
Speaker 2: Well, I didn't mind the speed dating. I thought they

442
00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:59,479
Speaker 2: and I loved the part at the end where Ashley

443
00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:02,080
Speaker 2: and Giselle both I like their friendship, Like they were

444
00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:05,280
Speaker 2: both kind of just laughing at the whole thing, and

445
00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:08,400
Speaker 2: you could tell they were like legitimately it was fun

446
00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:12,560
Speaker 2: for them. And I like seeing fun because then we

447
00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:14,080
Speaker 2: get to something very unfun.

448
00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:17,080
Speaker 3: Oh my god, me explaining the divorce your kids is

449
00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:20,159
Speaker 3: kind of disgusting, and Gordon says he has come to

450
00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:23,800
Speaker 3: terms with the fact that the divorce is happening. Mia

451
00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:28,080
Speaker 3: shares that Kiana and Ink told her she and Gordon

452
00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:32,879
Speaker 3: need to set boundaries, including Gordon not living in the

453
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Speaker 3: same building as Mia, which I don't see a problem

454
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Speaker 3: with that because the kids are there, and it would

455
00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:38,080
Speaker 3: like I think.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it would it would make things easier, I thought.

457
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Speaker 2: But correct me if I'm wrong. I thought that Kianna

458
00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:47,919
Speaker 2: told Mia she should not be in a relationship with

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00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:48,720
Speaker 2: Ink right now.

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Speaker 3: That's kind of what I thought too.

461
00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:54,800
Speaker 2: And then I was like, this isn't what what Mia

462
00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:58,399
Speaker 2: is conveying to Gordon. Mia is saying that, you know,

463
00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:01,320
Speaker 2: Gordon needs to be out of there and blah blah blah,

464
00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:04,760
Speaker 2: and that's what Kiana suggested. But also I find it weird,

465
00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:08,879
Speaker 2: like if you're going to talk to somebody, I mean, granted,

466
00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:11,359
Speaker 2: Kiana did give good advice, she probably shouldn't be with

467
00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:15,040
Speaker 2: thinks she shouldn't be having these conversations. But Kiana is

468
00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:15,960
Speaker 2: not a professional.

469
00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:18,880
Speaker 3: No, But I love that she acted like she was professional.

470
00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:21,520
Speaker 3: She's like Tom Gordon, Yeah, you know, I met with

471
00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:26,720
Speaker 3: Kiana and she's dating a therapist or something, so like

472
00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:29,439
Speaker 3: that's a social worker, bucial workers, so that kind of

473
00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:31,880
Speaker 3: makes her a professional there. I'm like, oh my god,

474
00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:33,879
Speaker 3: she just gave her good friend advice. I don't think

475
00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:34,359
Speaker 3: she gave her.

476
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Speaker 2: A yeah, good friend advice that was fine, but don't worry.

477
00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:39,600
Speaker 2: She wasn't going to skip wearing that polo to promote

478
00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:42,000
Speaker 2: her boyfriend's business, get it.

479
00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:45,040
Speaker 3: I just think the whole situation was sad. I agree

480
00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:47,280
Speaker 3: with a Gordon on this one. Like when the kids

481
00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:50,359
Speaker 3: when Mia said, are you guys going to be sad

482
00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:52,960
Speaker 3: when we get divorced? They're like yeah, and She's like

483
00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:54,680
Speaker 3: but why well?

484
00:26:54,720 --> 00:27:01,239
Speaker 2: Also, was this really the first conversation that Mia and

485
00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:03,120
Speaker 2: Gordon had with their kids.

486
00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:05,760
Speaker 3: They're like, you're not going to marry mister Ink, are you?

487
00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:09,639
Speaker 3: And then she lost me when she's Mia lost me

488
00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:12,600
Speaker 3: when she said she wants to preserve her kid's innocence.

489
00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:14,880
Speaker 3: Yet she's putting it all out there on national TV

490
00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:17,560
Speaker 3: that she's been cheating on their father for ten years

491
00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:19,960
Speaker 3: and her son might not be Gordon's.

492
00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:24,639
Speaker 2: Well. Also, at this point, Mia Ink and Gordon like

493
00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:27,119
Speaker 2: they all need a little bit of being on pause

494
00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:32,399
Speaker 2: because whoever fed these little girl questions to say is

495
00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:33,560
Speaker 2: not It's not good?

496
00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:36,960
Speaker 3: No, I know. Do you think that they're going to

497
00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:40,520
Speaker 3: read the paternity test at the season finale or is

498
00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:42,160
Speaker 3: Andy going to read them at the reunion.

499
00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:50,040
Speaker 2: I hope, for Jeremiah's sake, we never find out this

500
00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:55,280
Speaker 2: information we're going to and I hope that you know,

501
00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:57,960
Speaker 2: we all we all fuck up as human beings, we

502
00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:00,760
Speaker 2: all fuck up as parents, we all do you know,

503
00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:06,480
Speaker 2: we've all done stuff on television that is wrong. But

504
00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:13,840
Speaker 2: this scene made my skin crawl.

505
00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:15,600
Speaker 3: Like I have I have zero respect for me right now.

506
00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:18,480
Speaker 3: This is crossing the line in so many ways that

507
00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:21,240
Speaker 3: it's just she has no boundaries whatsoever. She talks about

508
00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:24,680
Speaker 3: boundaries with with Gordon, who's the father of her kids,

509
00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:27,320
Speaker 3: but what she's doing is still wrong.

510
00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:32,320
Speaker 2: And then with the kids, and then you could tell,

511
00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:34,720
Speaker 2: like you know when kids start to use like a

512
00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:39,000
Speaker 2: different voice because they're nervous on camera.

513
00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:40,160
Speaker 3: Like kids did that.

514
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:44,160
Speaker 2: I noticed, yeah, both her kids, and it just it

515
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:46,400
Speaker 2: made me really it made me really sad. And I

516
00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:48,400
Speaker 2: couldn't tell if Gordon was crying.

517
00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:50,840
Speaker 3: I feel bad for Gordon.

518
00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:53,200
Speaker 2: I think he took his mic off at one point

519
00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:56,000
Speaker 2: because didn't the daughter like go to grap didn't we

520
00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:59,800
Speaker 2: see the mic? Like he kept trying to get the conversation,

521
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:02,800
Speaker 2: and then she wouldn't let it get like she kept

522
00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:04,800
Speaker 2: bringing up new ways to talk about it.

523
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:06,760
Speaker 3: And the thing is is like when she talks about it,

524
00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:09,800
Speaker 3: and she's always got like this half smile on her face, like.

525
00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:16,320
Speaker 2: Because she thinks what she's saying is is great. I mean, listen,

526
00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:20,000
Speaker 2: I don't want to downplay whatever Mio went through with Gordon,

527
00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:24,800
Speaker 2: but I also think that there's certain conversations that you

528
00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:29,960
Speaker 2: have with your children, I know, and and these aren't

529
00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:32,040
Speaker 2: that this isn't the way he has been.

530
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:34,280
Speaker 3: All season talking about how she can keep multiple men.

531
00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:38,719
Speaker 3: And I mean, it's just it. I gotta believe like

532
00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:41,960
Speaker 3: people out there are like, what the fuck? Woman, Like

533
00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:45,760
Speaker 3: you are married, you were trashing your husband constantly, then

534
00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:49,680
Speaker 3: acting like, oh, I'm here for him, but he's bipolar.

535
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:52,120
Speaker 3: But I'm here for him, and I have a boyfriend,

536
00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:56,160
Speaker 3: you know, and this it's just all together, it's so gross.

537
00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:58,280
Speaker 3: It's you think reality TV.

538
00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:01,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I I think it's one thing. You know,

539
00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:06,720
Speaker 2: if Mia was not involving the children and all of that,

540
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:09,440
Speaker 2: you know what, I like, go they're separated, go live

541
00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:13,280
Speaker 2: your life. But she's making there there is no boundaries.

542
00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:16,960
Speaker 2: It's made it very not like any of this no,

543
00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:21,120
Speaker 2: and I just it made me feel I had a

544
00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:23,239
Speaker 2: lot of empathy for Gordon and a lot of like

545
00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:26,840
Speaker 2: empathy for her kids. And ultimately they are going to

546
00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:31,520
Speaker 2: have to watch this back, Oh for sure. I mean

547
00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:33,440
Speaker 2: at one point in time they're going to be old

548
00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:40,560
Speaker 2: enough and watch this and listen. I don't think everyone.

549
00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:45,920
Speaker 2: Everyone makes mistakes in life, I believe, but I think

550
00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:54,200
Speaker 2: too intentionally promote it on camera. Yeah, is where it

551
00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:54,880
Speaker 2: really is.

552
00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:58,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean there's just certain things you just don't cross. Like,

553
00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:01,160
Speaker 3: you know, Sophia doesn't have a great relations to have

554
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:03,640
Speaker 3: any relationship with her dad. But we went into filming

555
00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:06,760
Speaker 3: a green like we're not talking about this, we're not

556
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:09,440
Speaker 3: getting details. It's all right to say like nope, things

557
00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:11,680
Speaker 3: aren't good. But I'm like, you're not going to trash

558
00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:17,080
Speaker 3: your dad. Yeh, it ain't happening. Yeah, And she's like,

559
00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:19,440
Speaker 3: I would never mom, I would never do that.

560
00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:23,040
Speaker 2: Yeah. And also it's it's not necessary to watch.

561
00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:24,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not.

562
00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:29,000
Speaker 2: There's certain things like that. If that conversation just happened

563
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:31,680
Speaker 2: between Mia and Gordon and the kids weren't there and

564
00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:35,440
Speaker 2: it was done in a different way, Okay. But I

565
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:39,160
Speaker 2: love you and miss you, Tam. I am excited to

566
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:42,000
Speaker 2: see you soon, and I hope you feel better.

567
00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:45,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, And if you guys haven't listened to our Rebecca

568
00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:49,560
Speaker 3: Minkof interview, you will see a totally different side of Rebecca.

569
00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:53,160
Speaker 3: I've been talking texting with her today. They shoot the

570
00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:56,400
Speaker 3: reunion soon, and she's a little bit nervous, and you're

571
00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:58,040
Speaker 3: going to see a different side to her. I believe,

572
00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:01,000
Speaker 3: like I was shocked because she's been so quiet all season,

573
00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:02,400
Speaker 3: but she ain't no quiet girl.

574
00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:05,080
Speaker 2: Uh uh. And she's funny. Her texts are funny. Oh

575
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:08,880
Speaker 2: and for the record, she's somebody who when she says

576
00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:11,880
Speaker 2: she's gonna send something, she sends it. The purse arrived

577
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:13,680
Speaker 2: on Saturday.

578
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:15,760
Speaker 3: Really, I didn't Well, obviously I'm not home, but I

579
00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:16,520
Speaker 3: you're not home.

580
00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:19,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sure you got it. It's really pretty boys.

581
00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:20,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm so excited.

582
00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:22,000
Speaker 2: All right.

583
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:26,080
Speaker 3: I gotta send her some CBDHC. You gotta send her

584
00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:27,120
Speaker 3: some gummies.

585
00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:29,280
Speaker 2: Send her some action. All right. Thanks guys for tuning

586
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Speaker 2: in for another episode of Two Teas and Pod. Talk

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Speaker 2: to you soon. Hi,