1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:11,000 Speaker 1: The Armstrong and Getty show, no idea was it's ludicrous. 2 00:00:11,039 --> 00:00:14,280 Speaker 1: As far as Afghanistan withdrawal, I'm glad to see us 3 00:00:14,320 --> 00:00:17,680 Speaker 1: moving up. I think a random withdrawal just because you're 4 00:00:18,079 --> 00:00:22,200 Speaker 1: celebrating an anniversary is not the right decision. If we're 5 00:00:22,200 --> 00:00:24,680 Speaker 1: ready to go, then I'll be supportive. If we're not 6 00:00:24,720 --> 00:00:28,280 Speaker 1: ready to go, I'll be making that very clear. As 7 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:31,080 Speaker 1: reaction to the announcement yesterday that we're pulling out of 8 00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:35,040 Speaker 1: Afghanistan on the twentieth anniversary of nine eleven, which seems weird, 9 00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:38,120 Speaker 1: but that's just one oh by the way, Colin Powell 10 00:00:38,200 --> 00:00:43,040 Speaker 1: said yesterday, and obviously he was um Secretary of State 11 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:44,800 Speaker 1: at the beginning of the War of the Second warn 12 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:47,839 Speaker 1: Iraq Uh he say, I'd say we've done all we 13 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:51,160 Speaker 1: can do about Afghanistan. What are those troops being told 14 00:00:51,159 --> 00:00:53,559 Speaker 1: they're there for? It's time to bring it to an end. 15 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:55,320 Speaker 1: That is a pretty good question. What would you tell 16 00:00:55,360 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 1: the troops are there for? But that's just one of 17 00:00:56,960 --> 00:01:00,640 Speaker 1: the many military challenges that we've got around the world. 18 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:02,720 Speaker 1: One of the one of the reasons we are leaving 19 00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:07,840 Speaker 1: Afghanists Stan, I think, is Russia, China, iran other problems 20 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:10,080 Speaker 1: that we have, and David French wrote a column yesterday. 21 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:13,200 Speaker 1: I'm asking whether or not we're living in a moment, 22 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 1: that period of calm before the unexpected shattering nine eleven storm, 23 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:22,120 Speaker 1: that we might be entering another era of great power conflict, 24 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 1: arguably unlike anything we've experienced in more than a generation. 25 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 1: I hope he's wrong, but he certainly may be right. 26 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:31,479 Speaker 1: Let's talk to my clients military analyst about that. Mike 27 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:33,920 Speaker 1: served the United States military in both the US and 28 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:36,920 Speaker 1: Europe and Iraq with great distinction. He has been an 29 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 1: analyst for CBS, among other folks, and enjoins us. Now, Mike, 30 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:42,319 Speaker 1: how are you, sir? Think that's great to be back 31 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 1: with you all good, Well, thanks, it's been too long 32 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 1: and it's a real pleasure to talk to you. So 33 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:48,640 Speaker 1: a little hypothetical here. If you were the Secretary of 34 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 1: Defense and you were posed with the situation in on 35 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 1: the Ukrainian border with Plute Putin, You've got China acting up. 36 00:01:58,080 --> 00:02:03,840 Speaker 1: Iran is a problem as usual, UM Afghanistan. Which your 37 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:06,560 Speaker 1: meeting do you schedule first in the morning to make 38 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 1: sure everybody's on the same page. Which feels the most 39 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:12,680 Speaker 1: urgent to you. I think it's China only because they 40 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:15,800 Speaker 1: have the most metal resources right now that are focused 41 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:19,160 Speaker 1: in all the different facets of warfare and cyber as 42 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:22,079 Speaker 1: well as things on the ground in Hong Kong, Taiwan 43 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:25,240 Speaker 1: and places and what's what's happening there and events to 44 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:27,400 Speaker 1: take place in China with the Olympics coming up. So 45 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 1: I think, UM, that is clearly the number one now 46 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:34,400 Speaker 1: tactically on the ground. What's happening in Russia is not 47 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:37,640 Speaker 1: good either with Ukraine, UM, but I think that's going 48 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:39,799 Speaker 1: to be a regional conflict. One of the advantages of 49 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:43,079 Speaker 1: the United States has right now is the president that's 50 00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:45,840 Speaker 1: just not an interventionalist. So you know, you guys are 51 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:48,720 Speaker 1: talking about David French about the moment that might be 52 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:51,240 Speaker 1: the case. But the question is whether or not we're 53 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:53,360 Speaker 1: attacked on the homeland. I don't think that will happen. 54 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 1: The question is will be posed as to whether we'll 55 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 1: get involved, NATO get involved if something happens in Ukraine 56 00:02:58,760 --> 00:03:01,080 Speaker 1: and Russia. But but the the bottom line is China 57 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 1: is still the greatest threat that we still have strategically 58 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:08,359 Speaker 1: as an emergent power. Boy, where do we start, UM, China? 59 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 1: If China were to move on Taiwan in some manner, 60 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 1: do we honor our agreement we've had since nineteen seventy nine, 61 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 1: Do we have to can we? Yeah, it's naval power 62 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:23,079 Speaker 1: will will rule a day there, and China think that 63 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:26,800 Speaker 1: they can actually hold their own in any kind of 64 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:30,840 Speaker 1: naval engagement with us, based on how they've built their navy. UM. 65 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 1: I think I wouldn't call it a nine ten moment. 66 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 1: I'd call it maybe a ninety nine moment, where at 67 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 1: that point in the time, the world thought that the 68 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 1: French army was the greatest in the world, and no 69 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 1: one thought anything about the Germans. Um. You know, the 70 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 1: Chinese are if you look at their commercials, you look 71 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:47,120 Speaker 1: at what they're advertising, what they do. They get up 72 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:48,840 Speaker 1: every day and they think they're going to have a 73 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 1: war with someone. And so if they're going to do that, 74 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 1: they're not going to be afraid to go after us 75 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:57,200 Speaker 1: with um, you know, even with our nable resources there. 76 00:03:57,200 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 1: So it's gonna take our allies to the Australians and 77 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 1: others within the regions of the Japanese. But the bottom 78 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 1: line is, I think if we if we have that 79 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 1: conflict that takes place on the sea, and our navy 80 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:11,120 Speaker 1: is gonna get tested very mightily. Yeah, well, especially because 81 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 1: when I know you know this better than we do. 82 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 1: But it's a lot easier to defend a position than 83 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:18,120 Speaker 1: to retake it. And and Taiwan is to China like 84 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 1: Martha's Vineyard is to the United States. I mean, it's 85 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 1: it's right off their coast. Yeah. Yeah, And it would 86 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:29,080 Speaker 1: be a situation potentially like destroying it to save it, 87 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:31,720 Speaker 1: which doesn't you know that's again Korean war mentality as well. 88 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:34,920 Speaker 1: So um, it's just it's hard to say there's not 89 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:37,800 Speaker 1: you know, there as an as a ground guy though 90 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:41,080 Speaker 1: there's no other opposing fourth that exists inside of Taiwan, 91 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:43,599 Speaker 1: so it would be taken very simply. The question is, 92 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:45,840 Speaker 1: you know what happens, then what are the countries of 93 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:48,599 Speaker 1: the world do? Then? I think nothing. I think there's 94 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:51,240 Speaker 1: certain they're sort of fat to completes that are out 95 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:53,600 Speaker 1: there right now, and that's one. The second one is 96 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:56,800 Speaker 1: probably the don Vast region of Ukraine, and it's going 97 00:04:56,839 --> 00:04:58,920 Speaker 1: to get closer to Russia. We know that they already 98 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 1: control Crimea. So I think these are all FATA completes. 99 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:04,680 Speaker 1: Whether or not the world wants to get involved. And again, 100 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:06,560 Speaker 1: Joe Biden is not an at events and list, so 101 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 1: I don't see him getting involved. Wow, Okay, I was 102 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 1: just gonna ask before we get back into specifics, let's 103 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:14,240 Speaker 1: let's do a little You're you're teaching a college class, 104 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:17,640 Speaker 1: and in the topic today is mutual defense agreements? Are 105 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:20,320 Speaker 1: that sort of thing? We have the treaty with the Taiwan, 106 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:24,560 Speaker 1: We have a treaty through NATO with Ukraine. Are those 107 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:28,440 Speaker 1: things worth the parchment they're written on? Really? Well, they 108 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 1: were when they were signed, you know, some of them 109 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:32,839 Speaker 1: thirty years ago and beyond. But today they have not 110 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:36,240 Speaker 1: been updated. We haven't updated our strategic limitations trees and 111 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:39,880 Speaker 1: and and the like. They've all expired. And the countries 112 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:41,920 Speaker 1: that sign those trees aren't the same as they worked it. 113 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 1: The only one really is is the United States. UM. 114 00:05:44,520 --> 00:05:47,200 Speaker 1: NATO would have to mobilize pretty significantly if it wanted 115 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:49,600 Speaker 1: to go in and defend Ukraine. I don't think it's 116 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:53,279 Speaker 1: a good idea to put NATO anywhere near Ukraine. UM, 117 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:55,200 Speaker 1: that's right on the border of Russia. I mean, we 118 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:58,880 Speaker 1: can't have admission and TORNATO being everybody except Russia. That's 119 00:05:58,880 --> 00:06:01,960 Speaker 1: just not gonna work. That's gonna That's the same reason 120 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:04,680 Speaker 1: how World War One started, where history repeats itself all 121 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:08,120 Speaker 1: over again. So I think that while that was a 122 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:10,960 Speaker 1: great idea back in the nineties as they split away 123 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 1: from the old Soviet Union, the bottom line is Russia 124 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:15,800 Speaker 1: can pretty much have its way in Ukraine. We all 125 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:18,839 Speaker 1: know that. Everybody knows that, and if anything, and I 126 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 1: think Plutin knows that, Joe Biden is not an interventionalist, 127 00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:23,960 Speaker 1: which is why he's been moving towards what he's doing 128 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:26,520 Speaker 1: in Ukraine right now. Well, that's why I really wanted 129 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:28,360 Speaker 1: to have you on, is because you can speak to 130 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 1: and having the past on whether or not we can 131 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:34,360 Speaker 1: do something. So whether or not we should, you know, 132 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:38,120 Speaker 1: falls by the wayside. If someone like you says we can't. 133 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:43,480 Speaker 1: The world can't stop this from happening, so why discuss it, right. 134 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:48,159 Speaker 1: Simulations show that there's over four hundred thousand Russian troops 135 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:51,640 Speaker 1: that are in proximity closer in proximity of the Ukraine 136 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:54,159 Speaker 1: border that if they decided to roll into Ukraine and 137 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 1: even keep going further further west, they could take virtually 138 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 1: western Europe again in sixty hours. That's five days or whatever. 139 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:04,440 Speaker 1: I mean, live with the mass on that. It's to 140 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:06,800 Speaker 1: the point where, yeah, and the only thing holding it 141 00:07:06,839 --> 00:07:09,280 Speaker 1: back is US nuclear weapons. And the question is whether 142 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:11,640 Speaker 1: or not we would fire them, because then then we 143 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 1: start we open up that pendor to box and so 144 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:19,160 Speaker 1: we really don't have that that strategic deterrence at the 145 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:21,240 Speaker 1: tactical level. We have it at the strategic level. We 146 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 1: have it, you know, in in in space and destroying 147 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:26,120 Speaker 1: each other's countries. But are we willing to give up 148 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:29,720 Speaker 1: an east coast city just to protect Ukraine? And I'm 149 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:31,520 Speaker 1: not I'm not sure we're gonna be boiling to do that. 150 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 1: Military analysts Mike Lions on the line. Mike, so you're 151 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 1: saying Russia could sweep across Europe, I mean, take Poland 152 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:40,960 Speaker 1: and Romania, Slovakia, whatever, and and head toward Germany in 153 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 1: the space of five days. Yes, yeah, exactly, that's the stimulation. 154 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:48,840 Speaker 1: And they would do it with Russian forces plus the 155 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:51,520 Speaker 1: private military companies, the Wagner groups, the ones that the 156 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:54,920 Speaker 1: little green men so to speak, that they have mobilized. 157 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:56,760 Speaker 1: Now whether they could hold it, you know, again, we 158 00:07:56,840 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 1: create a World War two scenario where just like the 159 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 1: Germans going to Russian and then they get beat back there. 160 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 1: They would eventually be beaten back. It would be tremendous destruction. 161 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:07,560 Speaker 1: Millions and millions of people are killed. They couldn't hold it, 162 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:10,040 Speaker 1: but they can sure create tremendous amount of destruction there, 163 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:12,480 Speaker 1: that's for sure. And think do you think Putin has 164 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:17,080 Speaker 1: the slightest interest in anything like that. He's got interest 165 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:20,400 Speaker 1: in Ukraine. I think that his desire is to return 166 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:23,920 Speaker 1: that in his lifetime. Right, so he's now elected till 167 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 1: six and so he's got them. We've got to think 168 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:30,480 Speaker 1: that the world believes that Russia has a declining power. 169 00:08:30,880 --> 00:08:33,440 Speaker 1: But as soon as the Germans and the Russians connect 170 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:35,640 Speaker 1: that gas pipeline together and they know whether the Germans 171 00:08:35,640 --> 00:08:38,559 Speaker 1: completely relying on Russia, I just don't. That doesn't fall 172 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 1: into place for me as well. They're not a declining power. 173 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:43,439 Speaker 1: They have nuclear weapons as well, they can threaten the 174 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 1: United States. I think he's gonna want at least get 175 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:48,080 Speaker 1: Ukraine back and put Ukraine back in that what he 176 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:51,319 Speaker 1: calls the former Soviet Union. Well back to China, which 177 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:53,280 Speaker 1: is a similar sort of argument. And you know the 178 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 1: Chinese officials at some level may hear this very interview 179 00:08:57,600 --> 00:09:00,240 Speaker 1: where they hear somebody like you say it's fade a 180 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:03,600 Speaker 1: complete you know, more or less. Wouldn't be worth it 181 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:06,600 Speaker 1: for us to try to stop China from taking Taiwan 182 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:09,240 Speaker 1: because that's going to be the calculation on their part, 183 00:09:09,320 --> 00:09:12,440 Speaker 1: right whether or not we're willing to to to really 184 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:13,760 Speaker 1: go to war over it, and I don't think we 185 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:18,240 Speaker 1: probably are. We're not, and and it would cement China's 186 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:21,040 Speaker 1: role as they want to be the priminente or in 187 00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:24,360 Speaker 1: the Pacific. What is the day what does the world 188 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:27,120 Speaker 1: look like the day after China has taken Taiwan and 189 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:29,440 Speaker 1: we say to Taiwan, sorry, I know we have an 190 00:09:29,480 --> 00:09:31,520 Speaker 1: agreement to you know, to protect you, but we're just 191 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:35,840 Speaker 1: we're not. Yeah. No. It's then a lot of other 192 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:39,240 Speaker 1: of our alliances, a lot of other things get called 193 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 1: on the question. I think, um, I do believe already 194 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:44,520 Speaker 1: some of our this is not Donald Trump's fault, but 195 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:48,360 Speaker 1: some of our alliances in NATO, for example, are tired 196 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 1: of the United States politics anyway. They're they're looking at 197 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:52,679 Speaker 1: the fact that things change every four years. I mean, 198 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:56,080 Speaker 1: let's look at why we're coming out of Afghanistan, you know, Trump, 199 00:09:56,160 --> 00:09:58,040 Speaker 1: let's face it, he wanted to do this before the 200 00:09:58,040 --> 00:10:00,280 Speaker 1: military wouldn't let him do it. He said the data first, 201 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 1: he thought he was going to be president, he thought 202 00:10:01,640 --> 00:10:03,800 Speaker 1: it was going to happen. What Biden do? He basically 203 00:10:03,880 --> 00:10:05,760 Speaker 1: keeps the same plan, again showing me he's not an 204 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:07,520 Speaker 1: interventional This keeps the same plan. He just puts it 205 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:09,559 Speaker 1: on an AT eleven anniversary, which again I think is 206 00:10:09,640 --> 00:10:11,440 Speaker 1: dumb as well, because there's too many other things going 207 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:14,160 Speaker 1: on that day. But the bottom lines, we're coming out 208 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:16,520 Speaker 1: of Afghanistan, so we're gonna find out what happened. Then 209 00:10:16,520 --> 00:10:19,640 Speaker 1: we'll see what's gonna fill that back in. Well, final 210 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:22,360 Speaker 1: question for me, Well, and and this is the speculation, obviously, 211 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 1: but we understand that, Well, what do you figure the 212 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:27,640 Speaker 1: chances are that we're exchanging ordinance with a nation state 213 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:31,760 Speaker 1: anytime soon, as opposed to a non governmental terrorist organization 214 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:33,920 Speaker 1: or something like that, which is going on as we speak. 215 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:36,600 Speaker 1: Many Americans forget that we're in dozens of countries, but 216 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:40,800 Speaker 1: a state act, right, I don't think it's for a while. 217 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:44,240 Speaker 1: I think if anything happens first, sequentially Russia goes first 218 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:48,400 Speaker 1: into Ukraine before China does anything into Taiwan, um, although 219 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:52,199 Speaker 1: we've got more of a chance diplomatically to try to 220 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 1: fend off what's gonna happen in China. I think that's 221 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:58,640 Speaker 1: gonna happen first, and if that does happen, we do nothing. 222 00:10:58,760 --> 00:11:01,080 Speaker 1: Now we've already been warned. We try. We're moving ships 223 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:03,840 Speaker 1: into the Black Sea. We're trying to again project our 224 00:11:03,880 --> 00:11:06,640 Speaker 1: power there. It's not gonna matter because even if even 225 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:09,120 Speaker 1: if we get them there were they're still gonna do 226 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:12,800 Speaker 1: what they're gonna do. My clients military analyst Mike Fabulous 227 00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:16,280 Speaker 1: is always we really appreciated. Great to talk to you, great, 228 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:21,520 Speaker 1: thanks for having me. It's so weird in our current 229 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:27,080 Speaker 1: world of media to talk to somebody who's so plane 230 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:30,440 Speaker 1: spoken about the facts. It's not what he wants at all, 231 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:34,200 Speaker 1: I guarantee it. He doesn't want this reality, but it's 232 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:36,959 Speaker 1: the freaking reality. So he just lays it out as 233 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:39,400 Speaker 1: this is what is and it's not through some sort 234 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:42,720 Speaker 1: of ridiculous, childish partisan lens either. I'm gonna I don't 235 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:44,959 Speaker 1: believe America backs down from anyone, you know, as the 236 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:48,079 Speaker 1: sort of reaction you get from some quarters. What does 237 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:50,840 Speaker 1: that that has nothing to do with reality? He's saying 238 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:53,880 Speaker 1: the world can't stop Russia from doing that short of 239 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 1: a nuclear war. The world is not going to stop 240 00:11:56,280 --> 00:11:57,960 Speaker 1: China from doing what they want to do short of 241 00:11:57,960 --> 00:12:01,240 Speaker 1: a nuclear war. They're just not. This is why President's 242 00:12:01,280 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 1: age like dogs. And this is why I'm grateful that 243 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:05,600 Speaker 1: we have such a vital young man in the office 244 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:07,319 Speaker 1: right now. Oh wait a minute, that was back to 245 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:09,960 Speaker 1: the partisanship to tell you what either one or both 246 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:12,560 Speaker 1: of those events happen over the next five ten years. 247 00:12:12,640 --> 00:12:16,280 Speaker 1: The world is a different place than it was for 248 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:19,560 Speaker 1: the past seventy by a lot. Change is the only 249 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:23,040 Speaker 1: constant Jack, Did you know that? Yeah, I mean it's inevitable. 250 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:25,040 Speaker 1: United States wasn't gonna, you know, get to do whatever 251 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:27,320 Speaker 1: it wanted wherever it wanted forever. But it looks like 252 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:29,960 Speaker 1: those days are over. Wow, that's sobering.