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Speaker 1: You're listening to Drackings Network The John Nick and Kenny

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Speaker 1: Florian Podcast. John Annick and Kenny Florian.

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Speaker 2: I love them.

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Speaker 1: I can't get enough of them.

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Speaker 2: Let's hear that both next the job.

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Speaker 1: There Cooktuffia, fret Feers, Hondut Rock Suck.

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Speaker 2: I believe there are a couple of absolutely self involved.

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Speaker 1: Here are your hosts, John Nick and Kenny Florian. That's all.

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Speaker 3: Give me the live, no more live to take, Ken Flow,

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Speaker 3: give me the live on a Monday, Happy tax Day, Monday,

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Speaker 3: April fifteen, twenty twenty four, Episode four eighty two of

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Speaker 3: the Anticon Florian podcast.

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Speaker 1: You have C three hundred is in the can. We

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Speaker 1: are live.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna start going live twice a week, ladies and gentlemen,

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Speaker 3: not just to commemorate events like UFC three hundred. I

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Speaker 3: got an extra pep in my step today, Ken Flow,

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Speaker 3: it's good to see you, buddy. It was great to

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Speaker 3: see in Vegas Anak and Florian podcast on location.

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Speaker 1: How are we feeling? Likewise?

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Speaker 2: Man?

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Speaker 4: The live shows just feel different energetically, it's different, and

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Speaker 4: I imagine for UFC three hundred, man, it must have

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Speaker 4: been amazing.

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Speaker 1: What a card.

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Speaker 4: Rarely you know, you see this huge build up for

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Speaker 4: all these fights, you know, top to bottom. It was

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Speaker 4: the biggest card I think in UFC history, and sometimes

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Speaker 4: they don't always deliver.

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Speaker 1: This one definitely did that.

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Speaker 3: It certainly had everything, and it was laid out beautifully

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Speaker 3: by the promotion. And it's always fun for us to

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Speaker 3: look to our right while we're broadcasting these events and

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Speaker 3: to our left to see the UFC executives and the

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Speaker 3: UFC matchmakers and their responsiveness to a given fight that

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Speaker 3: they have put together, even a fight like Bobby Green

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Speaker 3: and Jim Miller. Promotionally, they were adamant four times to

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Speaker 3: put that fight together, and man, Bobby Green and I

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Speaker 3: was leaking blood of Jim Miller all over that octagon

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Speaker 3: and it just sort of snowballed from there.

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Speaker 1: A tremendous show.

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Speaker 3: We're going to recap the ever living, fucking daylights out

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Speaker 3: of it with you today. We're also going to talk

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Speaker 3: to Ray Longo. We'll ask him how it felt to

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Speaker 3: have the only winning fighter boot at UFC three hundred. No,

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Speaker 3: I'm just kidding, but I'm going to give it hard

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Speaker 3: to Ray Longo as I usually do. He'll join us

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Speaker 3: at the bottom of the hour and we were hoping

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Speaker 3: to be with you for a couple hours today live

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Speaker 3: on the Anakin Floor in podcast channel, DraftKings YouTube channel

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Speaker 3: as well, and we will get into all things UFC

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Speaker 3: three hundred headlines brought you by Quervo. Now's a good

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Speaker 3: time to enjoy the tequila that invented tequila. So kind

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Speaker 3: of feels like I need to begin the Ray Long

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Speaker 3: Go Minute with Max Holloway and not Al Jamaine Sterling,

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Speaker 3: And kind of feels like I should begin the show

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Speaker 3: with Max Welest Holloway and not the UFC Light Heavyweight

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Speaker 3: Champion Alex Baeta ken Flow. I mean, you're sort of

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Speaker 3: the A side of this podcast. Three times you fought

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Speaker 3: for the UFC title, tough for US Team Florian folks

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Speaker 3: that you never brought that home actually, but just kidding,

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Speaker 3: I mean, where do we even begin? I guess I

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Speaker 3: would just start with being so, you know, attitude of

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Speaker 3: base and this fight week and what this sport has

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Speaker 3: built into to be able to have a showcase like this,

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Speaker 3: And you know you're gonna be hard pressed to find

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Speaker 3: I would say probably until like twenty thirty two, UFC

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Speaker 3: four hundred, maybe not. I mean, the Conor McGregor pay

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Speaker 3: then to execute a show like that. We're very happy

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Speaker 3: it's in the can, you know, absolutely.

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Speaker 4: It just felt it felt big to me just watching

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Speaker 4: at home on television, and it really starts to become

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Speaker 4: this celebration by the UFC itself on this amazing milestone

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Speaker 4: of three hundred pay per view events.

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Speaker 1: You know, again, I was around for UFC one hundred.

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Speaker 1: That felt like a big deal.

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Speaker 4: It was a celebration of putting on one hundred pay

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Speaker 4: per view events, and now we're at three hundred. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: and just being out there and fight week again. Every

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Speaker 1: John, You've been able to see it. You're on the

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Speaker 4: But I'm curious, where do you kind of rank this

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Speaker 3: Would you kind of put this did it feel big?

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Speaker 3: It felt big just watching. Oh, it felt enormous. As

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Speaker 3: I said, we're glad this one's in the goddamn can

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Speaker 3: You know, it didn't have that International Fight Week Hall

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Speaker 3: I had called prior to this one was UFC two

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Speaker 3: I think that probably still holds right. Then ends and

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Speaker 3: three hundred is certainly right there. It just felt enormous,

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Speaker 3: to over and not underdeliver, and these broadcasts can take

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Speaker 3: on a life of their own. But yes, in terms

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Speaker 3: of the athletes and Davison Figuretto walking out at three

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Speaker 1: It was everything and then some.

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Speaker 3: And even if you think about singular moments during the night,

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Speaker 3: if we could. And since you know, when Kenny was

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Speaker 3: going to lead the program with Max bless Holloway if

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Speaker 3: I could. And if you had told Dana White and

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Speaker 4: Isn't it so interesting how one performance can change the

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Speaker 4: can change the narrative extremely quickly. Now, were these guys

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Speaker 1: To begin with? Absolutely this was deserving. Why won't you

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Speaker 4: Are as bad as it gets, right this, this fight

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Speaker 1: If it didn't have that insane ending.

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Speaker 4: Everyone still should be kind of bowing down to Max Holloway.

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Speaker 4: And it was a great reminder for me because I

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Speaker 1: I thought Geichee had this one in the bag.

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Speaker 4: And certainly it's not a great way to start a

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Speaker 1: Now, that's never a good thing badly, badly.

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Speaker 4: However, this was a masterful performers from Max Holloway and

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Speaker 1: Now it was a decimation he picked Geichee.

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Speaker 1: He was utilizing all the right tools.

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Speaker 4: The knock maybe on this one was he probably took

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Speaker 1: I beat that guy.

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Speaker 4: Okay, Holloway goes. Now I'm beating him the whole time,

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Speaker 4: Right now, we're gonna see I established myself as the

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Speaker 4: And he decided to go there throw the dice and

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Speaker 4: Now there's some luck involved. There could have gone the

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Speaker 3: So Max Holloway maybe the greatest volume boxer in UFC history.

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Speaker 3: He's known for a lot of things, greatness, never knockout power,

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Speaker 3: about that, a tremendous highlight, but not this, And maybe

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Speaker 3: of the ocagon against Karlo Lomas at UFC one ninety nine.

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Speaker 3: And it's just like, dude, like Dana says, we sell

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Speaker 1: To be like, dude, holy shit, Like, are you serious?

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Speaker 4: And he set himself up now to be a contender

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Speaker 3: You're like the nicer guy, right, like I will evil

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Speaker 4: into that one.

437
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Speaker 3: In terms of the leg kicks the Max Holloway absorbed

438
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Speaker 3: in this fight against Justin Gaetzee, a lot of fighters

439
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Speaker 3: say this is a toughness equation.

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Speaker 1: Now, we all have.

441
00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:55,119
Speaker 3: Different pain thresholds or whatever, right, But like when Cody

442
00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:59,480
Speaker 3: Garbrand fought Dominic Cruz, it was this virtueo so performance

443
00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:02,560
Speaker 3: Cody could barely walk, as data wide acknowledge. At the

444
00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:05,720
Speaker 3: press conference, Max Holloway's wearing super tight jeans and I

445
00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:08,719
Speaker 3: see him at the post show and he's not even limping, right,

446
00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:11,680
Speaker 3: So what a tough customer?

447
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, really do you believe with the right spot?

448
00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:20,800
Speaker 3: Well, like Blah Muhammad repeatedly says it's a toughness equation, right,

449
00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:23,320
Speaker 3: But like Connor McGregor when he absorbed those leg kicks

450
00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:27,640
Speaker 3: against Dustin Pourrier, like dude, like like physiological like look

451
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Speaker 3: the visual I mean, I don't know that any human

452
00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:31,960
Speaker 3: being would have been able to walk on that type

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Speaker 3: of injury, So I wouldn't sit here and suggest that,

454
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Speaker 3: Like I think Connor's tough enough to take leg kicks,

455
00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:38,359
Speaker 3: but he was in a wheelchair, you know, So, like,

456
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Speaker 3: do you think it's a toughness quotient type thing or what?

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Speaker 4: I think it's a toughness quote you know, definitely in

458
00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:50,240
Speaker 4: that realm as far as having that toughness but also

459
00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:53,639
Speaker 4: having the ability to keep your composure so you're.

460
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Speaker 1: Not losing any added energy to the equation. Right.

461
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Speaker 4: So, I think when you grew up in Hawaii and

462
00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:03,640
Speaker 4: you grow up in the way that Max Holloway did,

463
00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:06,920
Speaker 4: He's dealt with a ton of adversity, man, and he's

464
00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:08,840
Speaker 4: had a lot of street fights along the way. That's

465
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Speaker 4: just kind of the nature of living there. And I

466
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Speaker 4: think nothing kind of phases him at this state, at

467
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Speaker 4: this stage. You know, he's seen the worst of it

468
00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:20,360
Speaker 4: and this was no different. And he had a ton

469
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Speaker 4: of time in that octagon where I don't know, he

470
00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:27,440
Speaker 4: just brought that composure, that calmness, and of course that toughness.

471
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Speaker 3: You know, the dude something special man. Yeah, congratulations to Max.

472
00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:36,200
Speaker 3: Blessed Holloway on a life changing night and performance. And

473
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Speaker 3: anyone who watches this show regularly knows that his performance

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Speaker 3: against Calvin Cater from January of twenty twenty one on

475
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Speaker 3: Flight Island on ABC is immortalized behind me. That is

476
00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:49,800
Speaker 3: the singular greatest performance that I have seen with my

477
00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:53,480
Speaker 3: own eyes. But that was against Calvin Cater. That was

478
00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:57,600
Speaker 3: not against a prime justin Gaetchee with championship stakes, and

479
00:22:57,720 --> 00:23:00,320
Speaker 3: obviously it wasn't punctuated with a highlight like this with

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Speaker 3: one second to go.

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Speaker 1: So I said to Max Holloway after this fight.

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Speaker 3: I can't believe you topped the Calvin Cater performance because

483
00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:10,240
Speaker 3: when I harken back to the best offensive performances I've

484
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Speaker 3: seen Kenny Colby Covington against Robbi Lawler, all the records

485
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Speaker 3: are Holloway versus Cater, and yet somehow he topped it.

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Speaker 1: So congrats to Max.

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00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:19,200
Speaker 3: Hollow will get very Longo's thoughts on that, But what

488
00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:22,800
Speaker 3: an absolute warrior, and Hawaii couldn't have a better guy

489
00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:26,479
Speaker 3: to roof for and get behind. And the same can

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Speaker 3: be said for Danbury, Connecticut's own Alex Padaa can Flow.

491
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Speaker 1: Salpolo Brazil as well.

492
00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:37,959
Speaker 3: The UFC light heavyweight champion has done things in two

493
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Speaker 3: and a half years that most fighters can only dream of,

494
00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:45,200
Speaker 3: and he does this on the heels of a Hall

495
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Speaker 3: of Fame career as a kickboxer. He just got inducted right,

496
00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:52,320
Speaker 3: defended I think his Middleway championship in Glory Kickboxing five times,

497
00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:55,440
Speaker 3: and now he defends the UFC Light Heavyweight Championship successfully.

498
00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:59,600
Speaker 3: My goodness, Kenny, I truly don't know what else to

499
00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:03,240
Speaker 3: say about this guy other than he has maximized his utility,

500
00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:05,119
Speaker 3: he has realized financial freedom.

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Speaker 1: Seemingly hardest worker in the room. It couldn't happen no

502
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Speaker 1: better guy.

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Speaker 4: You could put him in a tuxedo and have one

504
00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:13,840
Speaker 4: of those you know, long cigarettes, and you could put

505
00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:17,080
Speaker 4: him in some classy place, and you look at out

506
00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:21,480
Speaker 4: Alex Pereira's face and you know that he enjoys hurting people.

507
00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:24,600
Speaker 4: He just has that look, and you know, you go

508
00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:27,000
Speaker 4: back to the press conference with where Dana White is

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Speaker 4: announcing that yes, in fact, he will give everybody three

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Speaker 4: hundred thousand dollars bonuses, and every single person on that

511
00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:38,320
Speaker 4: stage was chewing, was excited, was animated, And then there

512
00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:42,800
Speaker 4: was Alex Paeda with just a stone old face look,

513
00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:47,520
Speaker 4: no reaction to whatsoever, probably still thinking about punching Jamal

514
00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:52,520
Speaker 4: Hill in the face, and he's just different. Everything about him,

515
00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:54,280
Speaker 4: you know, the way that he thinks, the way that

516
00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:57,040
Speaker 4: he approaches the game, the way that he fights, the

517
00:24:57,200 --> 00:25:00,159
Speaker 4: power that he brings, the speed that he brings. The

518
00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:04,560
Speaker 4: dude is unusual. I mean, let's talk about the ending

519
00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:08,640
Speaker 4: of that fight. Please, gets kicked in the cup. Referee

520
00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:09,720
Speaker 4: goes in to stop the accent.

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Speaker 1: No no, no, no, no no no, I got this,

522
00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:12,119
Speaker 1: I got this, I got this.

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00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:17,280
Speaker 4: Just waves him off, walks forward, murders another dude with

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Speaker 4: a left hand. He drops, he finishes him, puts him

525
00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:24,159
Speaker 4: to sleep, and then goes like this with his hands

526
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Speaker 4: like he's presenting a Thanksgiving dinner.

527
00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:29,480
Speaker 1: Like here it is, it's on the table. Look what

528
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Speaker 1: he did. Here's my creation. This is what I do

529
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Speaker 1: best in the world.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the dude is unusual, just crazy, crazy power and structure.

531
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Speaker 4: The man is special, just like Holloway. And again this

532
00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:48,560
Speaker 4: is this was the cherry on top, right, I mean, unbelievable.

533
00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:51,720
Speaker 4: Jamal Hill is a very dangerous dude. But the horror

534
00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:52,760
Speaker 4: of that peremph rings.

535
00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:55,520
Speaker 1: He just took over the fight and you know what

536
00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:58,280
Speaker 1: else is crazy. Not for nothing else.

537
00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:01,560
Speaker 3: Since we're on the fucking DraftKings Network, that Alex Padata

538
00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:03,160
Speaker 3: minus won twenty five money line.

539
00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:04,040
Speaker 1: Right when you looked at.

540
00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:06,760
Speaker 3: All the factors, the active competition schedule, the lack of

541
00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:10,520
Speaker 3: a major injury, all the big time title fights that

542
00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:14,560
Speaker 3: Alex Padata competed in, and then just the different nature

543
00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:18,600
Speaker 3: of his life and career as a striker, Like I

544
00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:21,160
Speaker 3: think Jamal Hill, if his life has played out differently,

545
00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:23,920
Speaker 3: you know, could have been a really high level shooting guard.

546
00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:27,399
Speaker 3: Not to sit here and suggest NBA, right, but you

547
00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:30,040
Speaker 3: know there are a lot of factors in Alex Paada's favor.

548
00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:32,800
Speaker 3: And when you look at that gesture at the end

549
00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:35,080
Speaker 3: of the fight, his inner monologue is like, is that

550
00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:37,440
Speaker 3: all you got? Man? You know, like as if to say,

551
00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:40,800
Speaker 3: there are levels to this game, Like this one thing

552
00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:42,440
Speaker 3: that you want to try to do. If you're Steve

553
00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:46,560
Speaker 3: Verseg on May fourth against Aleschandre Pantosia, lay some sort

554
00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:49,560
Speaker 3: of foundation for a rematch with Pantoji even if you

555
00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:51,040
Speaker 3: don't win the fight. And I'm not at all being

556
00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:53,439
Speaker 3: suggestive of Seve Versak not being able to win that fight, right,

557
00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:55,959
Speaker 3: but go to war with the guy, establish yourself as

558
00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:58,520
Speaker 3: an undeniable bona fide flyway to lead, and I believe

559
00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:01,720
Speaker 3: Jamal Hill's a light heavyweight to leak, right, But Alex

560
00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:04,119
Speaker 3: Panata be minus six hundred for the rematch at this

561
00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:05,600
Speaker 3: point in time, right, So it's going to be a

562
00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:07,840
Speaker 3: rebuild for Jamal Hill. And we didn't hit on what's

563
00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:11,320
Speaker 3: next for Justin Gaetschee time permitting, we will. But dude,

564
00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:14,680
Speaker 3: Alex pa Data is the real deal and his game

565
00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:18,119
Speaker 3: has been called simple, which is fine. But you know,

566
00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:20,439
Speaker 3: best of luck to the rest of the light heavyweight division.

567
00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:22,080
Speaker 3: We all love Maga man ancle Ive and his game

568
00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:24,159
Speaker 3: and his wrestling and his versatility. You know, all the

569
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:27,080
Speaker 3: best against that Poeton cat, no question.

570
00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:27,640
Speaker 1: About it, dude.

571
00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:31,359
Speaker 4: But like for anyone who's operating at a high level,

572
00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:34,520
Speaker 4: right like yourself, a broadcast ticket, anyone, no matter what

573
00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:37,800
Speaker 4: you're doing, it's always about the fundamentals and hard work

574
00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:38,560
Speaker 4: that you put into it.

575
00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:40,880
Speaker 1: It's all the things that people don't see.

576
00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:43,080
Speaker 4: You're doing, all the things that a lot of other

577
00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:45,359
Speaker 4: people don't want to do, throwing a left hook a

578
00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:50,200
Speaker 4: million times, on analyzing your structure, analyzing your training, going

579
00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:52,960
Speaker 4: back and doing the basics until you're sick of the basics,

580
00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:56,200
Speaker 4: and then doing it again. Like all those years of

581
00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:59,680
Speaker 4: kickboxing and muay Thai and boxing and all like this

582
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:04,119
Speaker 4: dude is unbelievable, and he knows he has that weapon

583
00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:06,960
Speaker 4: now and he's patient with it. Like just the way

584
00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:10,440
Speaker 4: he was walking in that cage, you knew something violent

585
00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:13,040
Speaker 4: was gonna happen and it was gonna be Pereira like

586
00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:15,720
Speaker 4: doling it out, Like the way that he was just

587
00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:18,080
Speaker 4: walking Jamal Hill down.

588
00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:20,000
Speaker 1: Like just his energy.

589
00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:24,119
Speaker 4: He just has that aura of an absolute juggernaut and

590
00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:26,600
Speaker 4: Hill just wasn't able to stop him.

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00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:29,399
Speaker 1: It was extremely impressive and for.

592
00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:33,400
Speaker 4: Peira to do it in that spot, he just made

593
00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:35,240
Speaker 4: himself into an even bigger star.

594
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:38,880
Speaker 3: Connor McGregor made his UFC debut April twenty thirteen.

595
00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:42,160
Speaker 1: Ken Flow was there. I actually was expecting a child,

596
00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:44,280
Speaker 1: not me. I mean I was the dad.

597
00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:48,800
Speaker 3: But he became a two division champion November twenty sixteen.

598
00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:51,680
Speaker 3: Alex Beaneta made his UFC debut November twenty twenty one.

599
00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:54,800
Speaker 3: Becomes a two division champion, I believe. November twenty twenty three.

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Speaker 3: Now he has successfully defended the light heavyweight title, and

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Speaker 3: we will get to.

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Speaker 1: What is next for the great Alex Padeta.

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Speaker 1: How are we doing? Buddy?

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Speaker 2: Let me tell you some it's always better traveling back

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Speaker 1: All right, Well, we have a lot to get into.

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Speaker 1: How much time do you have? What is your next

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Speaker 1: obligation on your schedule today?

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Speaker 2: This is it?

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Speaker 1: You really have like forty five minutes for me?

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Speaker 2: Okay?

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Speaker 1: All right, congratulations, my man, sincerely.

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Speaker 3: Right, I'm not sure the featherweight debut could have gone

645
00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:56,400
Speaker 3: a whole lot better and there's a Calvin Cator side

646
00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:58,600
Speaker 3: to this, and certainly I think he looked a little

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649
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Speaker 3: I mean, the danger factor was almost nonexistent from moment one.

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Speaker 3: I've never seen I've never seen cater neutralize like that.

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00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:16,880
Speaker 2: Hey, listen from my standpoint, when the danger is limited

653
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:19,080
Speaker 2: like that, I'm always happy because you know, I worry

654
00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:21,160
Speaker 2: about my guys. Obviously I want to win. I want

655
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:23,400
Speaker 2: him to perform well, but at the end of the day,

656
00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:25,840
Speaker 2: I want him to be healthy and you know, live

657
00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:27,920
Speaker 2: a great life. And man, what a way to shut

658
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:30,640
Speaker 2: somebody down. I mean, there's the guy that's fought who

659
00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:36,200
Speaker 2: Hi Kaiz the Arnold down and e gas Max Holloway.

660
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:39,240
Speaker 2: I mean, think of the guys he's fought, all right,

661
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:42,720
Speaker 2: I mean all strikers. But then again, you know, and

662
00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:44,960
Speaker 2: he always had decent takedown defense. So I mean, I

663
00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:46,560
Speaker 2: got to give it up to Aljo. Man. I thought

664
00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:48,840
Speaker 2: he did great. I don't think al Jo was happy

665
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:51,440
Speaker 2: with the performance. I have no fucking idea why I

666
00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:54,880
Speaker 2: went through with her. I thought it was absolutely beautiful.

667
00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:59,760
Speaker 2: And you know, look he landed some. He landed on

668
00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:02,280
Speaker 2: his feet. You know, he did great on the ground.

669
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:06,840
Speaker 2: He had great control, you know, you know, maybe coming

670
00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:09,480
Speaker 2: off that last loss and moving up to forty five.

671
00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:11,880
Speaker 2: You know, look he was, uh, I think he was.

672
00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:13,880
Speaker 2: You know, he was feeling the nerves a little bit.

673
00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:15,760
Speaker 2: But it could have been the event, because I got

674
00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:18,800
Speaker 2: to tell you I was feeling the nerves. I mean

675
00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:24,040
Speaker 2: I that event was by far the best event Kenny

676
00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:25,800
Speaker 2: I was ever at in my life, like from the

677
00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:30,680
Speaker 2: press conference to the ceremonial weigh ins to just you know,

678
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:33,360
Speaker 2: like I called the guy up to get on the

679
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:35,760
Speaker 2: bus because they were picking al Joe up at the house.

680
00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:37,160
Speaker 2: So the guy goes, hey, he could go with three

681
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:40,400
Speaker 2: thirty four thirty. I said, I'll probably go four thirty.

682
00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:43,680
Speaker 2: And then I guess the show started. I hear Anik

683
00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:47,520
Speaker 2: and Rogan's voice and I I just get my shit on.

684
00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:49,760
Speaker 2: I go to the There was nobody even there. They

685
00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:51,800
Speaker 2: took me over by myself. Like I got to get there,

686
00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:53,920
Speaker 2: like I was starting to wig out, like and I

687
00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:56,400
Speaker 2: was chilling, like I'll go get something neat Now. Fuck

688
00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:59,400
Speaker 2: that I had to be in that fucking arena. I've

689
00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:01,680
Speaker 2: never felt like that before. I think they did a

690
00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:07,520
Speaker 2: great job. Dana crushed, absolutely crushed the press conference. I

691
00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:09,400
Speaker 2: mean not like we know we couldn't do it, but

692
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:11,400
Speaker 2: he knows how to control the crowd. He knows how

693
00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:13,320
Speaker 2: to give in when he has to give in, he

694
00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:16,600
Speaker 2: knows when to pushback. I thought the guy was absolutely fantastic.

695
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:20,000
Speaker 2: And the ambiance Kenny and that press conference when he

696
00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:23,560
Speaker 2: announced a three hundred thousand Mark Colman putting the belt

697
00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:28,240
Speaker 2: on was crazy. Was absolutely for me, like nothing, I

698
00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:30,200
Speaker 2: don't think anything gets to be like I'm going over

699
00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:32,880
Speaker 2: to the press conference with Alja going, what a crack

700
00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:35,360
Speaker 2: of shit? Twenty five guys, twenty six guys.

701
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:35,600
Speaker 1: On the thing?

702
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:38,800
Speaker 2: Who's going to nobody? What are we doing? And then

703
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:41,080
Speaker 2: I get there and they line up all the champions

704
00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:42,760
Speaker 2: that were on the car and I'm starting to go,

705
00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:45,920
Speaker 2: holy shit, ma, I'm just in la la lay and

706
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:48,520
Speaker 2: this is this is huge. And then I started getting

707
00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:51,160
Speaker 2: like into it and I go from that moment on,

708
00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:55,080
Speaker 2: that whole event took on a different a different turn

709
00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:55,400
Speaker 2: for me.

710
00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:57,560
Speaker 4: That says a lot because Ray's been going to UFC

711
00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:05,200
Speaker 4: fight since nineteen forty five's.

712
00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:05,720
Speaker 2: And Kenny, that's a compliment, thank you, because I think

713
00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:07,120
Speaker 2: it was actually thirty nine.

714
00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:12,239
Speaker 4: But Ray, but these are the things you can't really

715
00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:15,560
Speaker 4: know unless you're there, you're present, You're feeling out of

716
00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:16,439
Speaker 4: your cloud, right.

717
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:19,799
Speaker 2: It's I wasn't feeling it before that. That's all I'm

718
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:22,200
Speaker 2: saying is it's such a great job that they brought

719
00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:25,560
Speaker 2: out that that emotion that you know, like again, when

720
00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:27,520
Speaker 2: you've been around for a long time, it just becomes

721
00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:28,400
Speaker 2: matter of factly.

722
00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:29,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was.

723
00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:34,640
Speaker 2: I was really beautifully surprised. What a what a what

724
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:35,439
Speaker 2: a great job.

725
00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:38,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, this curmudgeonly New Yorker who forgot to get his

726
00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:40,120
Speaker 3: haircut before you f C three hundred. I see him

727
00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:43,680
Speaker 3: Thursday night at the Virgin Hotel. Shout out to big Ron.

728
00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:46,680
Speaker 3: We're in the PEG run. Thanks to Ray for coming by,

729
00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:48,920
Speaker 3: you know, and making the effort to come by with

730
00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:51,279
Speaker 3: Chris Wadman. But yeah, I see this guy Thursday night,

731
00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:54,000
Speaker 3: you know, and you know his pants are wet because

732
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:54,880
Speaker 3: of the press conference.

733
00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:57,040
Speaker 1: I'm like, what's going on here? You know, I mean,

734
00:34:57,080 --> 00:34:58,759
Speaker 1: this guy's usually no no.

735
00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:00,960
Speaker 2: I actually pissed a my pants. But thanks you.

736
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:05,359
Speaker 3: But no, that's great and we probably should have led

737
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:07,560
Speaker 3: with big picture UFC three hundred stuff with you.

738
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:08,719
Speaker 1: But it was great to see you.

739
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:11,000
Speaker 3: And you know, this guy shows up at our appearance

740
00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:13,520
Speaker 3: with Cuervo as well. I mean, what a soldier you are.

741
00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:16,080
Speaker 2: You know, I mean, you know, Wideman was there. I

742
00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:18,160
Speaker 2: haven't talked to him since the fight, so we got

743
00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:19,920
Speaker 2: to see. I mean, I just I don't know. I

744
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:22,680
Speaker 2: wish I could have stayed for the Quervo thing. I

745
00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:25,080
Speaker 2: really did. We had the team dinner, but it looked

746
00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:27,319
Speaker 2: like the ambiance was great there too. It was great

747
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:31,680
Speaker 2: seeing Kenny getting his due, getting his accolades that he

748
00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:34,560
Speaker 2: will deserves exactly and I love it. And John, You're

749
00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:37,759
Speaker 2: always a big star with everybody. But it was just great.

750
00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:40,640
Speaker 2: Everybody's accessible to the people. That's the type of people

751
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:41,160
Speaker 2: I like to be.

752
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:44,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, Well, before we potentially circle back to

753
00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:46,479
Speaker 3: al Joe one of two winning fighters to get booed

754
00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:48,600
Speaker 3: at UFC three hundred, and I'm just kidding, I got

755
00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:49,480
Speaker 3: a little bit.

756
00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:56,880
Speaker 2: Hey listen, come on, he's not he's not that's well,

757
00:35:57,040 --> 00:35:58,680
Speaker 2: he's that's not a new thing for him.

758
00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:00,680
Speaker 3: To of course not No and he no, I you know,

759
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:03,279
Speaker 3: I just dc wandered aloud during one of these fights, Like,

760
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:06,880
Speaker 3: I just don't understand how mixed martial arts as a sport,

761
00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:08,920
Speaker 3: you know, and we're not going to talk about this today,

762
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:11,000
Speaker 3: but how does mixed martial arts get booed as a

763
00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:13,560
Speaker 3: sport when wrestling grapplings are part of it, Like when

764
00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:16,080
Speaker 3: the fight transitions to one part of the sport. You know,

765
00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:19,120
Speaker 3: it's just interesting, like if NBA athletes got booed for

766
00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:21,879
Speaker 3: making layups instead of three pointers or something that it's

767
00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:25,200
Speaker 3: just I think my biggest advice to John in between

768
00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:29,319
Speaker 3: whichever round it was, don't fucking listen to this crowd, man,

769
00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:32,080
Speaker 3: do not let them become a factor in this goddamn fight.

770
00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:35,120
Speaker 2: You are doing unreal, unbelievable.

771
00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:38,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, he learned his lesson in that last fight against O'Malley.

772
00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:40,000
Speaker 4: I don't think he really needed a pressure. I think

773
00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:42,359
Speaker 4: he was rushing himself and then you know, got caught

774
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:44,480
Speaker 4: with that shop The thing for me Ray, I think,

775
00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:48,760
Speaker 4: which I probably saw incorrectly, I saw an Aljamin Sterling

776
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:52,439
Speaker 4: that had way more pepinist step. He had way more

777
00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:56,160
Speaker 4: strength and was timing things really well. And I think

778
00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:58,239
Speaker 4: there were some question marks on my part of going

779
00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:01,399
Speaker 4: can his strengths late to one hundred and forty five

780
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:03,800
Speaker 4: pounds and that was not a problem.

781
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:05,960
Speaker 1: I didn't see that really being a problem at all.

782
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:07,360
Speaker 1: He's that strong.

783
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:09,919
Speaker 4: And then as far as the energy that he brought,

784
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:12,600
Speaker 4: this is a much better I think he was probably

785
00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:15,640
Speaker 4: showing maybe seventy five percent of what he actually had

786
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:18,440
Speaker 4: in thirty five and obviously still doing extremely well being

787
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:20,560
Speaker 4: a champion who defended the belt. But I think we're

788
00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:22,920
Speaker 4: gonna see a much better Al Joe now at one

789
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:25,160
Speaker 4: forty five. I think I think he at least proved

790
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:27,400
Speaker 4: that and is on that right. But well, now he

791
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:29,280
Speaker 4: knows what he can do up a weight class.

792
00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:31,520
Speaker 2: And Kenny Calvin's a big dude.

793
00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:33,919
Speaker 1: He's a big, big, big one.

794
00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:39,000
Speaker 2: He's a big forty five man. Joe in the strength department,

795
00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:42,439
Speaker 2: listen Al Joe's skill set and his set of attributes

796
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:46,000
Speaker 2: if he ever decides to really use him, and he

797
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:49,319
Speaker 2: you know, he knows the fight within himself. But you see,

798
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:52,960
Speaker 2: like those spin back kicks that Holloway was landing on Gaihee,

799
00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:56,000
Speaker 2: He's got to trust me on this. He could do

800
00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:58,520
Speaker 2: that blindfolded, like I see him do it, and then

801
00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:00,520
Speaker 2: you know, like and I'll always tell him. You know,

802
00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:03,279
Speaker 2: obviously I'm the striking guy, so you know, I put

803
00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:06,200
Speaker 2: my two cents in with that stuff. But that's easy

804
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:10,600
Speaker 2: for him, easy. He might tell you differently. I'm telling

805
00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:13,480
Speaker 2: you that from watching what I and he's got so

806
00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:15,920
Speaker 2: many of the tools that he hasn't really shown yet

807
00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:18,320
Speaker 2: that you know it's going to come a point in

808
00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:20,920
Speaker 2: time he's going to let everything go completely. I think

809
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:23,600
Speaker 2: on that end, the grappling, he's got down to a

810
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:24,640
Speaker 2: Science Sason.

811
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:28,480
Speaker 3: Matchup that necessitates that he used those things at some

812
00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:30,720
Speaker 3: point in time, especially up ten pounds.

813
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:31,120
Speaker 2: Right.

814
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:36,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, certainly we've always known he's a flashy, decorated dynamic

815
00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:38,800
Speaker 3: striker Bush. It's one thing to do it, you know,

816
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:41,560
Speaker 3: in one setting and another. Guys, we're not talking about

817
00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:42,880
Speaker 3: after we'd live right now. We're not talking about you

818
00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:44,320
Speaker 3: want to talk about Anthony de Lemmy right now? Or

819
00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:45,160
Speaker 3: can I get back from the.

820
00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:47,440
Speaker 2: Let's let's let's give a shout out to Anthony.

821
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:51,200
Speaker 1: Let me great later, No, I said, I said later, Yeah,

822
00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:52,920
Speaker 1: we're not doing that. You do it real quick right now.

823
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:53,840
Speaker 1: I don't get back to my.

824
00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:56,719
Speaker 2: You you're not going to rush Anthony to let me.

825
00:38:56,880 --> 00:38:57,680
Speaker 2: We'll go back to it.

826
00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:00,319
Speaker 3: Later.

827
00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:01,920
Speaker 2: Shid me this thing, alright.

828
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:09,320
Speaker 3: So Charlie moynihan, one of my dear friends, longtime ESPN producer.

829
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:11,759
Speaker 3: He's been producing for ESPN twenty five thirty years, if

830
00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:14,200
Speaker 3: not longer. I'm not trying to date the guy, but

831
00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:15,920
Speaker 3: I come up to do the post fight show with

832
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:18,239
Speaker 3: Teddy Atlas and brett O Kamoto, and Charlie says to me,

833
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:20,399
Speaker 3: and this guy has covered it all, NBA Finals, super

834
00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:21,160
Speaker 3: Bowl for years ago.

835
00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:22,960
Speaker 1: After the Halloway thing, he says, that's the greatest thing

836
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:24,160
Speaker 1: I've ever seen. Right when you.

837
00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:27,240
Speaker 3: Parlay all the factors, the BMF title fight, the title,

838
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:30,000
Speaker 3: the fight itself, the knockout with one second to go,

839
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:33,080
Speaker 3: the UFC three hundred angle, right, So, whether or not

840
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:35,240
Speaker 3: you believe this to be the greatest knockout in UFC

841
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:39,759
Speaker 3: history alongside Anderson Silva vtor Bell for Connor McGregor versus

842
00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:43,120
Speaker 3: Jose Aldo Leon Edwards versus kamar Usman right, ray, A

843
00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:45,879
Speaker 3: lot of people are saying, as UFC fans combat sports fans,

844
00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:47,719
Speaker 3: this is the fucking greatest thing they have ever seen.

845
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:50,120
Speaker 3: So I asked the pole question at Anna Florian Pod, like,

846
00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:53,080
Speaker 3: is this the greatest thing you've ever seen? And yes,

847
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:55,600
Speaker 3: there will be some recency bias in there, but I'm

848
00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:58,359
Speaker 3: just saying, you know, seventy percent of you know, five

849
00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:00,840
Speaker 3: or ten thousand people believe that what we saw Saturday

850
00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:03,120
Speaker 3: night was the greatest fucking thing they've ever ever seen.

851
00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:06,160
Speaker 3: So where does it stack up for you? It stecks

852
00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:09,680
Speaker 3: up is probably the greatest thing I've ever seen. I'll

853
00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:12,600
Speaker 3: tell you why, because the guys ahead in the fight.

854
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:16,719
Speaker 3: He's got nothing to gain except getting knocked.

855
00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:18,839
Speaker 2: Out by a guy that has the ability to put

856
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:22,360
Speaker 2: you out with one punch, and that with ten seconds

857
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:24,640
Speaker 2: to go, he plants his flag in the middle of

858
00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:27,640
Speaker 2: the octagon, let's fucking go, and he knocks him out

859
00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:30,759
Speaker 2: with two seconds to go. That's some Hollywood shit that

860
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:32,719
Speaker 2: you wouldn't even believe if they put in a movie,

861
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:37,080
Speaker 2: you go, yeah, that that'll fucking happen. But halloway, this

862
00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:41,320
Speaker 2: is why the guy. Look, he didn't have to do that.

863
00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:43,719
Speaker 2: This guy's a fucking fighter, man. This is what the

864
00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:48,480
Speaker 2: UFC wants. Who could blame him? That was absolutely phenomenal

865
00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:52,840
Speaker 2: against a guy that's considered an absolute killer. Let's fucking go.

866
00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:55,320
Speaker 1: He moved up in wait, look at all the factors

867
00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:57,319
Speaker 1: that make it the greatest.

868
00:40:57,040 --> 00:40:59,960
Speaker 2: Knockout of He's a forty five and moving up gave

869
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:03,320
Speaker 2: She's an absolute assassin, will put his body on the

870
00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:06,640
Speaker 2: line for anything up in the fight, nothing to gain

871
00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:10,000
Speaker 2: except he has the ability a chance to get knocked out,

872
00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:12,480
Speaker 2: and look what he does. Look with that, no risk,

873
00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:16,080
Speaker 2: no reward, no guts, no glory, whatever fucking say you want,

874
00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:19,800
Speaker 2: this is the guy. Holloway is the fucking man, and

875
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:22,799
Speaker 2: he's going to remain a man. And that just guaranteed

876
00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:26,640
Speaker 2: him a title shot at Tuporia. If I'm sure today.

877
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:28,680
Speaker 1: That's what that's I don't know what else to say.

878
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:31,959
Speaker 2: Like all those other knockouts came within the fight, same

879
00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:36,800
Speaker 2: weight class, you know, not some good company behind, but

880
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:41,000
Speaker 2: nothing like this where it just it was the timing,

881
00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:43,400
Speaker 2: the pacing like anything else, like a movie, like a

882
00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:46,920
Speaker 2: stand up comedy. Said, his pacing and the timing of

883
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:51,239
Speaker 2: everything was absolutely beautiful, and he pulled it off. It

884
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:53,440
Speaker 2: would have been good if if he didn't knock him out,

885
00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:55,799
Speaker 2: it still would have been good, right, it would have been.

886
00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:58,560
Speaker 1: But he not that knocked him flat.

887
00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:03,360
Speaker 4: What may be more impressive than that knockout in the

888
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:06,319
Speaker 4: last second of that round round five is the fact

889
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:09,920
Speaker 4: that Holloway doesn't need a well wheelbarrow to carry around

890
00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:10,879
Speaker 4: his balls all day.

891
00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:13,200
Speaker 1: I mean, like that was that was the guy.

892
00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:16,720
Speaker 4: Like he says, all right, I beat you as a fighter.

893
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:19,680
Speaker 4: Technically I took you apart. Now let's see whose balls

894
00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:20,080
Speaker 4: are bigger.

895
00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:21,120
Speaker 2: And he just stood there and.

896
00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:24,840
Speaker 1: You know, take me on his face with a knock, Kenny.

897
00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:27,759
Speaker 2: I don't think a wheelbarrow is big enough for those bulls. Yeah,

898
00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:31,759
Speaker 2: and again one of the most personable, nicest guys you're

899
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:34,319
Speaker 2: gonna meet, so really is how could you just put

900
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:38,440
Speaker 2: everything together? How accessible he is, how compliment I mean

901
00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:40,520
Speaker 2: I saw him. I mean it feels like I know

902
00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:42,520
Speaker 2: the guy for a hundred years. I don't bare, I

903
00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:45,759
Speaker 2: really don't. I just love watching him fight. Just a

904
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:48,800
Speaker 2: great though man. Couldn't be happy for a guy and

905
00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:51,680
Speaker 2: h and Gates, she's always a warrior. It's not taking

906
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:55,799
Speaker 2: one ounce of anything away from him. He takes two

907
00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:58,640
Speaker 2: to tango and he's willing to put his his bulls

908
00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:02,120
Speaker 2: on the line toe so give them both wheelbarrels.

909
00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:04,840
Speaker 3: So we've been going live for forty five minutes, and

910
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:08,080
Speaker 3: I wonder aloud how we're gonna get to Diego Lopez

911
00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:10,440
Speaker 3: in the next seventy five minutes because there's so many

912
00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:12,440
Speaker 3: different things that we actually have to get to. And

913
00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:15,800
Speaker 3: Kayla Harrison, by the way, Ken Flow and Greg Jackson.

914
00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:18,480
Speaker 3: It was nice to see Greg Jackson there in Las Vega.

915
00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:20,319
Speaker 3: I'm gonna start hanging out with older men like Ray

916
00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:22,680
Speaker 3: Longo and Kenny Florian and Greg Jackson, so I'm not

917
00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:25,080
Speaker 3: always the oldest man in the room. But what great

918
00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:27,120
Speaker 3: to see the wizard Kenny Greg Jackson. Did you guys

919
00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:29,240
Speaker 3: break bread or do you guys not want that revealed?

920
00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:31,239
Speaker 3: You guys fucking these dangerous men, probably don't.

921
00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:34,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, we did. We got some dinner. Always great

922
00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:35,160
Speaker 1: to see Greg.

923
00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:39,200
Speaker 4: You know, awesome dude, a ton of experience, obviously, it's

924
00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:40,719
Speaker 4: always cool to kind of pick his brain.

925
00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:43,839
Speaker 1: And yeah, man, legend of the game for sure.

926
00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:45,000
Speaker 2: How old is Craig?

927
00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:49,359
Speaker 1: Now Greg's his name? You call him Craig Greg.

928
00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:52,239
Speaker 2: I don't know how old Greg Gregory? How old is Gregory?

929
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:56,479
Speaker 1: I don't know yours? You're calling him fucking Craig.

930
00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:59,239
Speaker 2: No, I had a good chat with Winkle John. I

931
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:01,960
Speaker 2: didn't know winkled on sixty one. First, I'll give you

932
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:06,680
Speaker 2: great yeah, yeah, I'll give you a good story because

933
00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:08,680
Speaker 2: I love it. What are you doing?

934
00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:11,239
Speaker 3: I'm wearing your Ray Longo middow T shirt right now,

935
00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:14,640
Speaker 3: John dot Com. Sorry, I thought it was the enemy

936
00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:19,120
Speaker 3: wearing your fucking face first, wearing your fucking face to our.

937
00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:22,279
Speaker 2: You know, all Anak and Florian ship the whole week.

938
00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:25,359
Speaker 2: Because I'm a team fucking player. That's right, you so hey,

939
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:27,239
Speaker 2: I think you wear it because it's comfortable. If I'm

940
00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:29,719
Speaker 2: being honest, right, I mean you're not well be on

941
00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:34,799
Speaker 2: on this because I wear it to represent because all things. Uh, listen,

942
00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:37,960
Speaker 2: I'm told at first off shout out to short Shelby.

943
00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:40,200
Speaker 2: I always like busters both. But I love the guy

944
00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:42,759
Speaker 2: now because we're talking about something. He goes, well, we're

945
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:45,759
Speaker 2: the same age. I go really, I go how? I go?

946
00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:48,960
Speaker 2: How old are you? He goes fifty two? I go,

947
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:51,920
Speaker 2: wait a minute, do you think I'm fifty two? And

948
00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:56,040
Speaker 2: I tell him I'm sixty five, going to be sixty six.

949
00:44:56,480 --> 00:44:59,879
Speaker 2: He goes, no fucking way. So I feel fucking great

950
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:01,600
Speaker 2: and I love hearing those compliments.

951
00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:05,239
Speaker 3: Well do come on, big fucking go big ron as

952
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:07,600
Speaker 3: straight as an arrow. But man, he was talking about

953
00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:10,359
Speaker 3: the Ray Longo aesthetic when you were thirty, as if

954
00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:11,920
Speaker 3: like you were his dream.

955
00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:13,400
Speaker 1: Man and that type of scenario.

956
00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:15,200
Speaker 3: I mean, we all know at a point in time,

957
00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:19,000
Speaker 3: uh when Ray Longo was uh was shredded up with

958
00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:19,960
Speaker 3: those blue eyes.

959
00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:23,000
Speaker 1: It was just like, I mean, you know, you know,

960
00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:25,120
Speaker 1: women love and men want to be him all that stuff.

961
00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:27,239
Speaker 2: I don't know about shred it up, but the blue eyes.

962
00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:29,520
Speaker 2: But what you do?

963
00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:30,840
Speaker 1: You have aged gracefully.

964
00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:33,040
Speaker 3: I mean black, don't crack, and you're white, but largely

965
00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:34,960
Speaker 3: for a Caucasian man, you've aged grace.

966
00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:38,440
Speaker 1: All right.

967
00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:41,719
Speaker 3: So there are so many directions in which we could go.

968
00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:44,760
Speaker 3: There really are. Would you like to talk about Alex

969
00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:45,680
Speaker 3: Padeda for a minute.

970
00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:48,640
Speaker 2: Let's go a bit everything. There's a lot to talk about.

971
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:51,600
Speaker 1: So I don't know that there's a comp for this guy.

972
00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:55,360
Speaker 3: We have marveled at Israel Adssanya and Connor McGregor and

973
00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:58,680
Speaker 3: how quickly they essentially laid out Hall of fame resumes

974
00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:00,520
Speaker 3: in the UFC. But for this guy to make a

975
00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:05,279
Speaker 3: decision right to transition fully from kickboxing to MMA when

976
00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:07,440
Speaker 3: he did because he didn't like is he's sort of

977
00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:12,360
Speaker 3: talking about him, right, former alcoholic doing this really in

978
00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:16,560
Speaker 3: a lot of respects for respect, but for financial gain

979
00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:19,640
Speaker 3: to support his two boys. And he has in a

980
00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:24,640
Speaker 3: few years become one of the most sensational accomplished MMA

981
00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:26,640
Speaker 3: fighters of all time, Like at least on paper.

982
00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:31,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, look, first off, besides even what he's doing in

983
00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:38,759
Speaker 2: the octagon unequivocally the best and most scariest walkout I've

984
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:41,960
Speaker 2: ever seen in the list thirty years. I mean, who

985
00:46:42,120 --> 00:46:44,920
Speaker 2: cannot love that man? And I don't know if he

986
00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:47,120
Speaker 2: does it on purpose, but he plays the part. He

987
00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:50,320
Speaker 2: just has that blank look. This guy looks like you know,

988
00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:53,120
Speaker 2: they can announce him from parts unknown and you would

989
00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:55,960
Speaker 2: believe it, you know what I mean? Like, I just

990
00:46:56,080 --> 00:46:59,640
Speaker 2: the way he carries himself. That's a scary motherfucker. Man,

991
00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:04,759
Speaker 2: that's a scary motherfucker. And he hits like a god

992
00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:08,480
Speaker 2: damn freight train. Holy shit, he generates power. I think,

993
00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:11,680
Speaker 2: I think it's got to be is the way his

994
00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:14,120
Speaker 2: arms are so long and the way he could generate

995
00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:17,920
Speaker 2: power from a short distance is just absolutely phenomenal.

996
00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:22,240
Speaker 3: So we asked a pole question, who would be next

997
00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:25,760
Speaker 3: for Alex Padata? Now I said on the broadcast. Kenny

998
00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:28,680
Speaker 3: repeatedly as he was getting his Brazilian jiu jitsu black

999
00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:31,879
Speaker 3: belt for this knockout, he was looking at his left

1000
00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:34,320
Speaker 3: pinky toe. Seemed like maybe something was going on that

1001
00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:37,279
Speaker 3: was irritating him. And then I was told as the

1002
00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:39,360
Speaker 3: broadcast went on in my ear that maybe there was

1003
00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:41,320
Speaker 3: something with his foot. So it sounds to me like

1004
00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:43,480
Speaker 3: may fourth UFC three to OHO one that does already

1005
00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:47,480
Speaker 3: have a headliner and branding would be ambitious for this guy.

1006
00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:49,520
Speaker 3: He's not going to fight in defense of his light

1007
00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:51,320
Speaker 3: heavyweight title in a few weeks and cut all the

1008
00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:52,960
Speaker 3: weight again, so what would be a heavyweight fight. And

1009
00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:54,960
Speaker 3: I don't know that you're going to rush Tom Aspinall

1010
00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:57,720
Speaker 3: on Alex Padata for UFC three to OHO one. Maybe

1011
00:47:57,840 --> 00:48:00,720
Speaker 3: Podata positions himself for some heavyweight on work this summer

1012
00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:04,840
Speaker 3: against Tom Aspinall. But I asked the pole question and

1013
00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:07,439
Speaker 3: I'm not sure why Aspinall and un Calive are linked

1014
00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:09,520
Speaker 3: in those percentages, Cody, so if you could get me

1015
00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:12,520
Speaker 3: different results. But essentially the guys who could possibly be

1016
00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:17,440
Speaker 3: next for Alex Podata tom Aspinall for the interim heavyweight

1017
00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:20,480
Speaker 3: Championship magamet An Calive would seem to be the guy

1018
00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:23,239
Speaker 3: at light heavyweight. Uri Prohaska had a huge result here

1019
00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:26,120
Speaker 3: Kencelo against Alexander Rockets, but I got to think at

1020
00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:28,279
Speaker 3: light heavyweight an Calive would have the inside lane over

1021
00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:31,080
Speaker 3: pro Hostka. Perhaps not, But Kenny, what do you think

1022
00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:34,520
Speaker 3: about as to what is next for the multi optional

1023
00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:35,720
Speaker 3: Alex Podata.

1024
00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:39,320
Speaker 4: You know, if I'm out Alex Pereira, I would prefer

1025
00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:42,560
Speaker 4: to stay in my weight class, you know, especially the

1026
00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:45,480
Speaker 4: stylistic matchup against someone like Aspinall who can put him

1027
00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:47,839
Speaker 4: on his back and keep him there with the size.

1028
00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:47,919
Speaker 1: And the weight.

1029
00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:50,840
Speaker 4: Pereira is a big guy, no question about it, but

1030
00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:55,480
Speaker 4: Aspinall is both a tall and wide guy, and weight

1031
00:48:55,560 --> 00:48:57,560
Speaker 4: at the end of the day, really does make a difference,

1032
00:48:57,680 --> 00:49:02,040
Speaker 4: especially in a lot of those grappling exchanges. Striking wise, Hey,

1033
00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:03,719
Speaker 4: he can knock out anybody all the way up the

1034
00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:07,560
Speaker 4: heavyweight I truly believe that. But I think at this

1035
00:49:07,719 --> 00:49:10,680
Speaker 4: stage of the game, I would like to see him

1036
00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:11,840
Speaker 4: against someone like an Akaly.

1037
00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:13,680
Speaker 1: Let's see a new challenger out there.

1038
00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:16,799
Speaker 4: While Prohasca is always going to make it a very

1039
00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:20,040
Speaker 4: exciting fight, I didn't see anything in his game where

1040
00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:22,759
Speaker 4: I'm like, yes, he's dangerous, but I don't think he

1041
00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:26,000
Speaker 4: can prevent Pereira from knocking him out like as many

1042
00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:28,640
Speaker 4: times as he got hit against Rockage. I would say

1043
00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:31,560
Speaker 4: Pereira would need to throw one tenth of the amount

1044
00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:34,520
Speaker 4: of those strikes to put Prohaska back to sleep again.

1045
00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:37,319
Speaker 4: So I would like to see him against Akliath Ray.

1046
00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:40,600
Speaker 3: Thirty eight percent of people said Tom Aspinall is the

1047
00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:43,399
Speaker 3: guy they want to see next for Alex Podata. Thirty

1048
00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:46,320
Speaker 3: eight percent also said magabt Ankliath. So fan opinion pretty

1049
00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:49,319
Speaker 3: split there eighteen percent you're a Prohaska six percent other

1050
00:49:49,640 --> 00:49:51,920
Speaker 3: What would you do with Alex Padata?

1051
00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:54,000
Speaker 1: I mean you got to measure your goals against his.

1052
00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:55,080
Speaker 1: But what do you think they'll do?

1053
00:49:55,200 --> 00:49:58,000
Speaker 2: And what would you do? Uh? Well, I think look

1054
00:49:58,080 --> 00:50:00,880
Speaker 2: the way his trajectory is before we even get that

1055
00:50:01,040 --> 00:50:04,600
Speaker 2: talk about moments at UFC three hundred, because I'm thinking

1056
00:50:04,600 --> 00:50:07,960
Speaker 2: about Alex now, that guy gets kicked in the bulls

1057
00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:11,080
Speaker 2: and he's just, Hey, they're only fuck, They're only bulls.

1058
00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:14,640
Speaker 2: Get the fuck away from me. I got something to do. Wait,

1059
00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:17,319
Speaker 2: you think I'm one of those pussies that gets kicked

1060
00:50:17,360 --> 00:50:19,480
Speaker 2: in the bulls. I'm gonna take five minutes, get the

1061
00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:21,920
Speaker 2: fuck up, and he goes in does this. I'll tell

1062
00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:24,840
Speaker 2: you these are moments, dude, that this event had some

1063
00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:28,359
Speaker 2: shit that's gonna live on forever. And I always want

1064
00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:31,040
Speaker 2: to give credit to that too, because I'm blown away

1065
00:50:31,080 --> 00:50:33,279
Speaker 2: by that didn't even look, didn't even turn his head,

1066
00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:36,160
Speaker 2: wouldn't take his eyes off his opponent, because that's not

1067
00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:38,320
Speaker 2: what guys like that do. Man, even when he backs

1068
00:50:38,360 --> 00:50:40,720
Speaker 2: up out of the stair down, he ain't turning around

1069
00:50:40,760 --> 00:50:43,680
Speaker 2: and running back to the corners. He's making eye contact

1070
00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:46,800
Speaker 2: as he's walking back. This guy is so fucking dialed in.

1071
00:50:46,920 --> 00:50:47,320
Speaker 2: I love it.

1072
00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:49,759
Speaker 3: Listen to this quote about it. I was starting to

1073
00:50:49,840 --> 00:50:52,239
Speaker 3: find my distance. I started using leg kicks from the

1074
00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:54,439
Speaker 3: beginning so I could find his distance. He's a south post,

1075
00:50:54,440 --> 00:50:56,279
Speaker 3: so it's a little harder. My game plan was to

1076
00:50:56,320 --> 00:50:58,600
Speaker 3: start throwing hands after that. So then he threw the

1077
00:50:58,640 --> 00:51:00,920
Speaker 3: groin shot. But it's not really hurt too much, so

1078
00:51:01,040 --> 00:51:02,800
Speaker 3: I chose to just keep pushing so I did not

1079
00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:05,680
Speaker 3: have to reset the distance. Capitalize on the moment, like

1080
00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:08,880
Speaker 3: fight IQ fighting a bunch of championship fights in a

1081
00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:11,080
Speaker 3: row against a guy who tore his achilles.

1082
00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:14,640
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to like lean too much into.

1083
00:51:14,520 --> 00:51:17,000
Speaker 3: The achilles, right, but look at what Alex Padata is doing,

1084
00:51:17,080 --> 00:51:19,600
Speaker 3: ladies and gentlemen, you know, and think really seriously before

1085
00:51:19,600 --> 00:51:21,400
Speaker 3: you go bet against him in his next fight. Like

1086
00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:23,600
Speaker 3: he's he's all in right now, in the middle of

1087
00:51:23,640 --> 00:51:25,160
Speaker 3: his fighting crome. He's getting better every fight.

1088
00:51:25,600 --> 00:51:28,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, and to your point about what do you do

1089
00:51:28,160 --> 00:51:31,000
Speaker 2: with a look, if he wants to go to heavyweight?

1090
00:51:31,080 --> 00:51:34,239
Speaker 2: I think what he's been doing is absolutely phenomenal. Why

1091
00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:37,120
Speaker 2: not try to complete the hat trick? Man? Let him

1092
00:51:37,120 --> 00:51:40,080
Speaker 2: go up away Cliss and do something big, or at

1093
00:51:40,160 --> 00:51:43,319
Speaker 2: least give him the opportunity. I one hundred percent think

1094
00:51:43,360 --> 00:51:46,200
Speaker 2: he deserves it, and I think the crowd would want it.

1095
00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:48,600
Speaker 2: I think the fans you know, obviously are behind him.

1096
00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:52,960
Speaker 2: He's building this aura that's invincible, and give give him that,

1097
00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:55,640
Speaker 2: do man, I see, go for it. Yeah, really run

1098
00:51:55,719 --> 00:51:57,480
Speaker 2: with it, because now's the time to do it. It's

1099
00:51:57,480 --> 00:51:58,480
Speaker 2: not going to be there forever.

1100
00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:01,640
Speaker 3: You know, Kenny is a very covert operators, so we

1101
00:52:01,719 --> 00:52:04,000
Speaker 3: don't even know his inner circle necessarily.

1102
00:52:04,120 --> 00:52:04,279
Speaker 2: You know.

1103
00:52:04,480 --> 00:52:06,600
Speaker 3: The next thing, you know, he and Greg Jackson are

1104
00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:08,959
Speaker 3: you know, looking to make sure there's no imminent threat

1105
00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:10,799
Speaker 3: at the bar, and then we don't see Kenflo again

1106
00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:11,840
Speaker 3: the rest of the week. You know.

1107
00:52:12,440 --> 00:52:12,680
Speaker 2: Wow.

1108
00:52:13,280 --> 00:52:16,480
Speaker 3: But in terms of surrounding yourself with good people and

1109
00:52:17,360 --> 00:52:20,120
Speaker 3: being some sort of byproduct of the people that you

1110
00:52:20,239 --> 00:52:24,560
Speaker 3: perpetually surround yourself with, plenty o Cruiz Glover to share

1111
00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:28,480
Speaker 3: this alex Poata corner and circle is really tight for Nelly.

1112
00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:29,200
Speaker 1: Felise, everybody else.

1113
00:52:29,239 --> 00:52:31,520
Speaker 3: And they did a really good job with him, and

1114
00:52:31,880 --> 00:52:33,560
Speaker 3: he might just be getting started here in terms of

1115
00:52:33,600 --> 00:52:35,320
Speaker 3: started in terms of what he's going to accomplish in

1116
00:52:35,320 --> 00:52:36,239
Speaker 3: the next four or five years.

1117
00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:38,160
Speaker 1: Ray you want to go go ahead? Sorry?

1118
00:52:38,719 --> 00:52:41,080
Speaker 2: John. You could see the friendship there, right. You could

1119
00:52:41,120 --> 00:52:43,799
Speaker 2: see that they have a good time busting bulls. They

1120
00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:46,960
Speaker 2: like each other, not a big camp. They're coming out

1121
00:52:47,000 --> 00:52:50,000
Speaker 2: of Danbury, Connecticut. I don't think there's another gym up there.

1122
00:52:50,440 --> 00:52:52,839
Speaker 3: I mean, come on, man, I mean it's like you guys,

1123
00:52:52,960 --> 00:52:55,680
Speaker 3: you know, all tight knit, you know, lotable, you know,

1124
00:52:56,120 --> 00:52:56,920
Speaker 3: no nonsense.

1125
00:52:57,600 --> 00:52:59,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know how tight knit we are anymore,

1126
00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:02,279
Speaker 2: but what tight? But that's what I'm saying. I love

1127
00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:04,840
Speaker 2: that type of scenario where these guys are friends and

1128
00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:08,880
Speaker 2: you know, just nothing's coming before that, and they're fucking

1129
00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:11,680
Speaker 2: they're knocking it out of the park. They're knocking the

1130
00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:13,480
Speaker 2: cover off the ball, and you have to love it.

1131
00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:14,520
Speaker 2: I have to love it.

1132
00:53:15,160 --> 00:53:17,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I also think that from a from a

1133
00:53:17,400 --> 00:53:21,080
Speaker 4: promoter's perspective as far as Perira, Yeah, when you have

1134
00:53:21,239 --> 00:53:23,200
Speaker 4: a star like that and a guy who's doing so

1135
00:53:23,360 --> 00:53:25,759
Speaker 4: well in his division, I think you have to be

1136
00:53:25,880 --> 00:53:28,560
Speaker 4: careful to not push him into the headweight division and

1137
00:53:28,600 --> 00:53:32,320
Speaker 4: then maybe diminish that kind of luster potentially. You know,

1138
00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:34,160
Speaker 4: I think you kind of want to keep them, get

1139
00:53:34,200 --> 00:53:36,160
Speaker 4: the most out of them in that weight class, and

1140
00:53:36,320 --> 00:53:37,439
Speaker 4: then maybe do that later.

1141
00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:40,680
Speaker 1: Not to say he can't, but you got to start

1142
00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:44,040
Speaker 1: keep building that star. The dude. The dude's doing unbelievable.

1143
00:53:44,680 --> 00:53:47,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I agree with that from a long

1144
00:53:47,280 --> 00:53:50,560
Speaker 2: term standpoint, but from running off the emotion and the

1145
00:53:51,680 --> 00:53:54,640
Speaker 2: momentum you have. Now, Look, the only way it's going

1146
00:53:54,680 --> 00:53:57,120
Speaker 2: to be a disaster is with the grappling. Right, Like

1147
00:53:57,200 --> 00:53:59,520
Speaker 2: you said, he could strike with anybody, so they could

1148
00:53:59,560 --> 00:54:02,640
Speaker 2: definitely take a guy up there that could be talebayed

1149
00:54:02,719 --> 00:54:05,680
Speaker 2: for him to get a heavyweight Witness's absolutely no question

1150
00:54:05,800 --> 00:54:10,960
Speaker 2: about that. But from a from a building standpoint, You're

1151
00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:14,640
Speaker 2: one hundred percent right from a seizing the moment standpoint

1152
00:54:14,760 --> 00:54:17,920
Speaker 2: and cashing in on a big payday. I say, strike

1153
00:54:17,960 --> 00:54:20,000
Speaker 2: while the iions hot. This is the time to go,

1154
00:54:20,320 --> 00:54:24,400
Speaker 2: and like again, it could backfi you, but you know

1155
00:54:24,560 --> 00:54:26,479
Speaker 2: he wanted to take care of his two kids. That'll

1156
00:54:26,520 --> 00:54:29,040
Speaker 2: be well taken care. They'll be well taken care, so

1157
00:54:29,600 --> 00:54:32,160
Speaker 2: I'll never want to deny your guy of a payday.

1158
00:54:33,680 --> 00:54:33,960
Speaker 1: Kenny.

1159
00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:36,520
Speaker 3: Boston Celtics head coach Joe Mizzoula shows up to the

1160
00:54:36,880 --> 00:54:39,279
Speaker 3: morning shoot around today wearing a jeongwe Lee T shirt.

1161
00:54:39,719 --> 00:54:42,279
Speaker 1: No Way, Yeah, that's crazy. Talk to me about Jong

1162
00:54:42,320 --> 00:54:43,440
Speaker 1: Way Lee over Yan Shannon.

1163
00:54:43,560 --> 00:54:47,000
Speaker 3: Unanimous decision forty nine forty five times three And let

1164
00:54:47,080 --> 00:54:51,000
Speaker 3: me just say, off the top, really tactical, fun fight.

1165
00:54:51,239 --> 00:54:54,200
Speaker 3: A lot of admiration for both corners, but particularly to

1166
00:54:54,400 --> 00:54:57,719
Speaker 3: Ryah Faber and Danny Castillo. They've done tremendous work Marcus

1167
00:54:57,800 --> 00:55:00,640
Speaker 3: Reeves as well with Yan Channon and just watching them

1168
00:55:00,719 --> 00:55:03,640
Speaker 3: sort of coach her through a lot of the perilous

1169
00:55:03,960 --> 00:55:04,839
Speaker 3: moments of that fight.

1170
00:55:05,440 --> 00:55:09,719
Speaker 4: It experience matters, and Yan shown on every time I've

1171
00:55:09,760 --> 00:55:12,080
Speaker 4: seen her compete, she's looked better and I thought she

1172
00:55:13,120 --> 00:55:16,680
Speaker 4: not only technically looked better, but we found out just

1173
00:55:16,840 --> 00:55:19,560
Speaker 4: how willing she is to go to those dark places. Man,

1174
00:55:19,760 --> 00:55:23,000
Speaker 4: she is an absolute beast. You were not going to

1175
00:55:23,080 --> 00:55:26,440
Speaker 4: beat her unless she was one hundred percent of sleep,

1176
00:55:26,480 --> 00:55:28,919
Speaker 4: whether it was a knockout or a joke. We found

1177
00:55:28,960 --> 00:55:31,399
Speaker 4: out if she's just fifty percent of sleep or even

1178
00:55:31,440 --> 00:55:33,000
Speaker 4: eighty percent of sleep, she was going to find a

1179
00:55:33,040 --> 00:55:35,080
Speaker 4: way to get back to that stool, and she did

1180
00:55:35,239 --> 00:55:38,800
Speaker 4: just that. So toughness technique, you know, had the right tactics,

1181
00:55:38,920 --> 00:55:42,560
Speaker 4: just didn't have enough against Jean Wee Lee, who you

1182
00:55:42,600 --> 00:55:46,920
Speaker 4: know from an athleticism athleticism perspective, from a skills perspective,

1183
00:55:47,320 --> 00:55:49,880
Speaker 4: just had a little bit too much, particularly on the

1184
00:55:50,040 --> 00:55:52,920
Speaker 4: ground I think where she was getting caught up as

1185
00:55:53,000 --> 00:55:55,680
Speaker 4: Yan was able to time her because Jean Wiley was

1186
00:55:55,760 --> 00:55:58,759
Speaker 4: throwing like little to no feints at all, so you

1187
00:55:58,840 --> 00:56:02,000
Speaker 4: can at least see her coming in. And yes, she's fast,

1188
00:56:02,440 --> 00:56:06,040
Speaker 4: but Yan chou Nan is also very fast and was

1189
00:56:06,160 --> 00:56:09,000
Speaker 4: capturing on the counter a few times. Was the longer,

1190
00:56:09,160 --> 00:56:12,040
Speaker 4: taller fighter, so she was kind of able to see

1191
00:56:12,080 --> 00:56:14,920
Speaker 4: her enter. She was landing the right shots. So for

1192
00:56:15,040 --> 00:56:16,839
Speaker 4: Jean Waydlee, I'd like to see her faint a little

1193
00:56:16,880 --> 00:56:19,759
Speaker 4: bit more, but still her ability to get you on

1194
00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:22,960
Speaker 4: the floor and now look like a wrestler and look

1195
00:56:23,080 --> 00:56:27,680
Speaker 4: like a jiu jitsu fighter is really impressive. The strides

1196
00:56:27,719 --> 00:56:29,879
Speaker 4: that she has made from her first fight to where

1197
00:56:29,960 --> 00:56:33,359
Speaker 4: she's at now is really really impressive. But I thought

1198
00:56:33,400 --> 00:56:36,759
Speaker 4: that was a very exciting fight. You know, coming off

1199
00:56:36,840 --> 00:56:39,759
Speaker 4: of what the Gaetchee and Holloway fight. After that, you're like,

1200
00:56:39,800 --> 00:56:41,000
Speaker 4: oh my god, I don't know how much more I

1201
00:56:41,000 --> 00:56:41,439
Speaker 4: can handle.

1202
00:56:41,520 --> 00:56:43,880
Speaker 1: You know, this is a lot. And then these guys deliver.

1203
00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:45,400
Speaker 1: And then the fight after that delivered.

1204
00:56:45,480 --> 00:56:47,879
Speaker 4: So it was exhausting, not only because it was late

1205
00:56:47,920 --> 00:56:50,680
Speaker 4: at night, but just the amount of energy watching these

1206
00:56:50,760 --> 00:56:52,600
Speaker 4: guys go out at the amount of skill that was

1207
00:56:52,640 --> 00:56:56,000
Speaker 4: being exchanged. Every fight just really delivered, and this was

1208
00:56:56,040 --> 00:56:56,759
Speaker 4: certainly one of them.

1209
00:56:59,280 --> 00:57:00,279
Speaker 1: Right, I was.

1210
00:57:00,440 --> 00:57:02,920
Speaker 2: Super super repressed, And again it had it had the

1211
00:57:03,120 --> 00:57:07,200
Speaker 2: moments again where the girls basically choked out. Like again,

1212
00:57:07,320 --> 00:57:11,000
Speaker 2: that part was a weird scenario because she was basically

1213
00:57:11,080 --> 00:57:13,080
Speaker 2: out so and I'm not I don't want to be

1214
00:57:13,160 --> 00:57:15,680
Speaker 2: a dip shit, but like it was like Morob and

1215
00:57:15,800 --> 00:57:19,440
Speaker 2: Ricky Simone, they overturned that that decision because of that

1216
00:57:19,920 --> 00:57:23,400
Speaker 2: Morob survived the same same exact thing. That girl was

1217
00:57:23,440 --> 00:57:25,800
Speaker 2: out right, The girl was out. Why why wasn't the

1218
00:57:25,880 --> 00:57:26,360
Speaker 2: fight over?

1219
00:57:27,040 --> 00:57:29,520
Speaker 3: She was actually more out than Morob. And even though

1220
00:57:29,520 --> 00:57:32,480
Speaker 3: I thought Jason Herzog handle things beautifully. He I don't

1221
00:57:32,480 --> 00:57:35,080
Speaker 3: know if he's allowed to touch her, but nobody else can,

1222
00:57:35,200 --> 00:57:37,840
Speaker 3: you know. But man, she by the skin of her teeth,

1223
00:57:37,880 --> 00:57:39,560
Speaker 3: she was able to extend that fight. But you're right,

1224
00:57:40,080 --> 00:57:40,600
Speaker 3: you know what I mean.

1225
00:57:40,640 --> 00:57:43,160
Speaker 2: And again I'm gonna say that fight was closer than

1226
00:57:43,200 --> 00:57:45,680
Speaker 2: the score cards indicated because of the knockdowns, you know

1227
00:57:45,720 --> 00:57:47,520
Speaker 2: what I mean. She did knock it down, She just

1228
00:57:47,600 --> 00:57:50,400
Speaker 2: got she just got hammered with the grappling exchanges and

1229
00:57:50,480 --> 00:57:52,959
Speaker 2: she couldn't get back to her feet. But that fight,

1230
00:57:53,200 --> 00:57:56,040
Speaker 2: because of those knockdowns, added a lot of intrigue and

1231
00:57:56,760 --> 00:58:00,840
Speaker 2: you know, just a great, great visual for anybody watching.

1232
00:58:00,920 --> 00:58:03,680
Speaker 2: So you had to school a fight for yeah, you know, Wayley,

1233
00:58:03,800 --> 00:58:06,560
Speaker 2: But that fight was really really close, and they could

1234
00:58:06,600 --> 00:58:09,960
Speaker 2: have turned at any second while that fight was standing up,

1235
00:58:10,240 --> 00:58:13,520
Speaker 2: and it almost did. So hats off to both corners.

1236
00:58:14,080 --> 00:58:15,360
Speaker 2: I thought they did a great job.

1237
00:58:15,560 --> 00:58:18,880
Speaker 1: Rudy out standing job.

1238
00:58:19,320 --> 00:58:21,120
Speaker 2: They thought he had a glove on when he stuck

1239
00:58:21,200 --> 00:58:22,600
Speaker 2: his finger up and those because.

1240
00:58:22,360 --> 00:58:24,480
Speaker 3: That would be well, it's actually right, yeah, right at

1241
00:58:24,520 --> 00:58:26,920
Speaker 3: the base of the in between the two nostrils can

1242
00:58:27,840 --> 00:58:29,880
Speaker 3: here opened up the passageway.

1243
00:58:30,280 --> 00:58:32,760
Speaker 2: Now he was knuckled deep, John, if you really look, okay,

1244
00:58:33,400 --> 00:58:35,400
Speaker 2: he took one for the team. Rudy's good man.

1245
00:58:36,600 --> 00:58:38,560
Speaker 3: Just pushed right under here as he came to the

1246
00:58:38,600 --> 00:58:41,920
Speaker 3: broadcast booth to tell us. But yeah, well hey, as

1247
00:58:41,960 --> 00:58:44,439
Speaker 3: I was mentioning early though, you like, if you can't

1248
00:58:44,480 --> 00:58:46,600
Speaker 3: get the belt, you know, maybe you lay some sort

1249
00:58:46,640 --> 00:58:49,240
Speaker 3: of foundation for a rematch, not to say that they're

1250
00:58:49,240 --> 00:58:50,800
Speaker 3: going to run that one back because of all the

1251
00:58:50,840 --> 00:58:54,440
Speaker 3: straweight talent, right like I think at some point, you know, Onrage,

1252
00:58:54,480 --> 00:58:55,880
Speaker 3: I think he's won a couple in a row. You know,

1253
00:58:56,000 --> 00:58:59,000
Speaker 3: she graciously when Jessica and Drage was a champion for

1254
00:58:59,760 --> 00:59:02,680
Speaker 3: a couple cups of coffee flew to China to fight

1255
00:59:02,760 --> 00:59:05,040
Speaker 3: Joan way Lee in her first title defense off of

1256
00:59:05,040 --> 00:59:07,760
Speaker 3: the pay per view on UFC Fight Pass. So Andrage

1257
00:59:08,040 --> 00:59:09,840
Speaker 3: say what you want about how she stacks up to

1258
00:59:09,920 --> 00:59:13,280
Speaker 3: the other strawweight contenders. Right now, she deserves another shot

1259
00:59:13,280 --> 00:59:15,960
Speaker 3: against John way Lee, period. Don't at me. And by

1260
00:59:16,000 --> 00:59:17,680
Speaker 3: the way, right My favorite word to hear you say

1261
00:59:17,720 --> 00:59:20,360
Speaker 3: in the English language by a significant.

1262
00:59:19,800 --> 00:59:24,320
Speaker 1: Margin is hamid handed. Oh it sounds so good.

1263
00:59:24,440 --> 00:59:25,040
Speaker 2: All right, So.

1264
00:59:26,760 --> 00:59:29,560
Speaker 3: Dustin Poorier is going to fight Islami Kashev for the

1265
00:59:29,720 --> 00:59:32,680
Speaker 3: undisputed UFC Lightweight Championship at UFC three zero two, I

1266
00:59:32,760 --> 00:59:36,080
Speaker 3: believe on June first, Newark, New Jersey. If I'm not mistaken,

1267
00:59:36,720 --> 00:59:40,120
Speaker 3: but Arman Sarwakian's next fight could likely be for the title.

1268
00:59:40,640 --> 00:59:42,560
Speaker 3: We'll lead with Kenthal on this. Where were you when

1269
00:59:42,560 --> 00:59:45,000
Speaker 3: you're watching Saraikian and Charles Oliver? You're back at the

1270
00:59:45,680 --> 00:59:47,400
Speaker 3: You're back at the Red Rock. Where were you watching

1271
00:59:47,480 --> 00:59:47,800
Speaker 3: this fight?

1272
00:59:47,920 --> 00:59:54,080
Speaker 2: Ray, I'll tell you where I was. I was in

1273
00:59:54,240 --> 00:59:55,960
Speaker 2: the back and I didn't really watch it. I had

1274
00:59:56,040 --> 00:59:58,000
Speaker 2: to order it when I got home and rewatch it

1275
00:59:58,120 --> 01:00:00,360
Speaker 2: last night, so I got to see it. But podcast

1276
01:00:00,360 --> 01:00:04,120
Speaker 2: will reimburse he yep, go on, I mean you think

1277
01:00:04,160 --> 01:00:05,640
Speaker 2: that's right. I got to come home in order the

1278
01:00:05,680 --> 01:00:06,320
Speaker 2: God damn.

1279
01:00:06,600 --> 01:00:09,800
Speaker 1: I said, Podcast. I just said, well, reimburse you. No,

1280
01:00:09,840 --> 01:00:11,840
Speaker 1: you got to complain about Oh, it's not the paper

1281
01:00:11,840 --> 01:00:12,600
Speaker 1: of you on the back end.

1282
01:00:12,640 --> 01:00:15,480
Speaker 3: You just said, and you also said off the top

1283
01:00:15,560 --> 01:00:18,400
Speaker 3: of this Ray long go minute you talked about this event,

1284
01:00:18,920 --> 01:00:20,360
Speaker 3: and you've a lot of data.

1285
01:00:20,480 --> 01:00:24,840
Speaker 1: You can't pay the seventy guess a reimburshit we got.

1286
01:00:24,920 --> 01:00:30,120
Speaker 2: You tell you he's brutal, today's brutal. He's hamdy, I

1287
01:00:30,200 --> 01:00:31,280
Speaker 2: get I'm getting hammed.

1288
01:00:31,520 --> 01:00:31,640
Speaker 3: Uh.

1289
01:00:32,520 --> 01:00:34,360
Speaker 2: I was trying to make another point with that. It's

1290
01:00:34,400 --> 01:00:37,920
Speaker 2: not the podcast is uh wait, so where what we

1291
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Speaker 2: can where we were talking about where you were.

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Speaker 1: For that fight.

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Speaker 3: It sounds like maybe I should have asked Kenny, but

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01:00:42,960 --> 01:00:44,760
Speaker 3: go ahead. I didn't want to bite you up and

1295
01:00:44,880 --> 01:00:47,400
Speaker 3: ray long. Incidentally, very generous man. I'm not trying to

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01:00:48,000 --> 01:00:50,040
Speaker 3: you know, cast dis versions here that this is a

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01:00:50,360 --> 01:00:53,560
Speaker 3: frugal or chief gentleman not wanting to pay a generous guy.

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Speaker 1: You should see what he sent my kids. Ever, I'm listen.

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Speaker 2: You could you could try you could try passing that around.

1300
01:01:03,960 --> 01:01:07,200
Speaker 2: You're gonna come on deafy as because I'm a generous motherfucker.

1301
01:01:07,240 --> 01:01:09,919
Speaker 2: But anyway, listen. So I think I was in the back,

1302
01:01:10,000 --> 01:01:11,920
Speaker 2: so I saw bits and pieces of it. But when

1303
01:01:11,920 --> 01:01:14,480
Speaker 2: I got home I saw it. I thought, you know,

1304
01:01:14,640 --> 01:01:17,480
Speaker 2: I picked Serukian to win, and I thought he did.

1305
01:01:17,640 --> 01:01:19,720
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, I thought he did a great job of

1306
01:01:19,800 --> 01:01:22,400
Speaker 2: controlling the You know, Olivera always has trouble with the

1307
01:01:22,480 --> 01:01:26,040
Speaker 2: top pressure. He's still dangerous off his back, but he

1308
01:01:26,240 --> 01:01:27,960
Speaker 2: can't you know, he's just not gonna win a fight

1309
01:01:28,120 --> 01:01:31,120
Speaker 2: like that. And uh man, but he had his look.

1310
01:01:31,520 --> 01:01:35,200
Speaker 2: Serukian's tough man. That choke was. I mean, you have

1311
01:01:35,440 --> 01:01:38,360
Speaker 2: to give it up to the guy survive first and

1312
01:01:38,480 --> 01:01:41,040
Speaker 2: then win, and that's what he fucking did and that

1313
01:01:41,320 --> 01:01:44,040
Speaker 2: was not easy to do. You could see was struggling Kenny,

1314
01:01:44,480 --> 01:01:47,240
Speaker 2: and I'm saying ninety nine percent of the guys would

1315
01:01:47,240 --> 01:01:50,240
Speaker 2: have tapped. He's not one of them. And he deserves

1316
01:01:50,320 --> 01:01:52,400
Speaker 2: to win that fight. And I think that's a really

1317
01:01:53,080 --> 01:01:55,360
Speaker 2: I want to see that fight more than any other fight.

1318
01:01:55,440 --> 01:01:58,520
Speaker 2: I want to see Serukian against Islam. That's the fight

1319
01:01:58,600 --> 01:02:00,439
Speaker 2: I want to see more than any of the fight.

1320
01:02:02,440 --> 01:02:04,840
Speaker 2: Ken Flow, Choles, Olivera, I'm on Saakian talk to me.

1321
01:02:05,400 --> 01:02:07,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm with you on that. I'm with you on that.

1322
01:02:08,040 --> 01:02:13,560
Speaker 4: I think that's why Serukion was a favorite, and Olivera

1323
01:02:13,680 --> 01:02:17,400
Speaker 4: again proved that offensively he is a problem. He's a

1324
01:02:17,640 --> 01:02:21,680
Speaker 4: nightmare because of all the tools that he brings offensively.

1325
01:02:21,560 --> 01:02:24,520
Speaker 1: But when he is u you know, the nail and

1326
01:02:24,640 --> 01:02:25,400
Speaker 1: not the hammer.

1327
01:02:26,320 --> 01:02:28,360
Speaker 4: That's when he can that's when he can struggle a

1328
01:02:28,360 --> 01:02:32,280
Speaker 4: little bit defensively. He showed that vulnerability didn't take a

1329
01:02:32,520 --> 01:02:35,440
Speaker 4: whole lot of damage, but those short elbows from Seruki

1330
01:02:35,560 --> 01:02:38,680
Speaker 4: on man, He's he's absolutely brutal there. And again I

1331
01:02:38,720 --> 01:02:41,600
Speaker 4: think a great measuring stick for that was his fight

1332
01:02:41,720 --> 01:02:45,440
Speaker 4: against Daby Homos, an ADCC gold medalist, you know, as

1333
01:02:45,480 --> 01:02:48,360
Speaker 4: good as it gets when it comes to grappling, and

1334
01:02:48,600 --> 01:02:50,720
Speaker 4: he was dominant from that top position. He was not

1335
01:02:50,880 --> 01:02:53,440
Speaker 4: afraid to engage on the ground, something that a lot

1336
01:02:53,520 --> 01:02:56,000
Speaker 4: of people are afraid to do against Olivera, and did

1337
01:02:56,120 --> 01:02:59,120
Speaker 4: so after almost getting submitted off the guillotine, by the way.

1338
01:02:59,480 --> 01:03:02,320
Speaker 4: But he did a great job of being defensively sound

1339
01:03:02,360 --> 01:03:04,680
Speaker 4: when he needed to be. He was winning the rounds

1340
01:03:04,720 --> 01:03:08,120
Speaker 4: when he needed to battle back after losing round one,

1341
01:03:08,520 --> 01:03:11,960
Speaker 4: winning rounds two and three and doing it on the

1342
01:03:12,000 --> 01:03:16,200
Speaker 4: ground against Olivera. You know, and I think that vulnerability

1343
01:03:17,000 --> 01:03:20,400
Speaker 4: kind of revealed itself again here for Charles Olivera still

1344
01:03:20,480 --> 01:03:22,440
Speaker 4: going to be exciting. I still want to see him fight,

1345
01:03:22,920 --> 01:03:27,000
Speaker 4: you know, but he came up short because of those

1346
01:03:27,040 --> 01:03:30,240
Speaker 4: same things that he's been kind of showing in previous

1347
01:03:30,360 --> 01:03:32,240
Speaker 4: losses or even when he kind of comes back to

1348
01:03:32,360 --> 01:03:34,640
Speaker 4: win and we see him get dropped with something, but

1349
01:03:35,960 --> 01:03:38,520
Speaker 4: he's still really dangerous. I think I saw some improvements

1350
01:03:38,560 --> 01:03:41,919
Speaker 4: in his striking as well, So Oliver is still getting better,

1351
01:03:42,040 --> 01:03:44,400
Speaker 4: just defensively needs to be a little bit sharper. But

1352
01:03:44,520 --> 01:03:49,280
Speaker 4: sarukion Man proved himself to absolutely be worthy of fighting

1353
01:03:49,360 --> 01:03:50,640
Speaker 4: for a belt in the near future.

1354
01:03:52,040 --> 01:03:54,080
Speaker 2: I think also Kenny, he's a guy that you got

1355
01:03:54,160 --> 01:03:56,440
Speaker 2: to put to sleep or you're not stopping him. Like,

1356
01:03:56,600 --> 01:03:59,040
Speaker 2: he's not going to quit, he's not going to tap early,

1357
01:03:59,520 --> 01:04:02,760
Speaker 2: he's got go at light's got to be out completely.

1358
01:04:03,080 --> 01:04:05,760
Speaker 2: That guy's are going to be a problem, definitely. He

1359
01:04:05,840 --> 01:04:07,200
Speaker 2: thought it was a great fight for him.

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Speaker 3: Oh and it's really telling just to hear all the

1361
01:04:10,400 --> 01:04:13,880
Speaker 3: other pro fighters talk about our mon saer Kan and Kenny.

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01:04:13,960 --> 01:04:16,040
Speaker 3: By the way, some connective tissue for you and me.

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01:04:16,280 --> 01:04:19,200
Speaker 3: You harkened back to the fight between our Mont Sorakian

1364
01:04:19,240 --> 01:04:21,920
Speaker 3: and Dobby Hamosh. So I asked Arman and the fighter

1365
01:04:22,040 --> 01:04:24,680
Speaker 3: meeting any sort of comp from your past or maybe

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01:04:24,720 --> 01:04:26,720
Speaker 3: a fight that might you know, help you with this.

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Speaker 1: One, and he mentioned Dobby Hamer, So you know, yeah.

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's going to be a confidence builder.

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Speaker 4: And the other thing is, you know, in that fight,

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Speaker 4: I would have loved to see five rounds, you know,

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01:04:36,360 --> 01:04:40,280
Speaker 4: because yeah, it wasn't absolutely clear who was going to

1372
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Speaker 4: win that fight if we went into rounds four and five.

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01:04:42,640 --> 01:04:45,720
Speaker 1: So uh, maybe we see that down the line at

1374
01:04:45,800 --> 01:04:48,520
Speaker 1: some point. But just an awesome flight, very technical and.

1375
01:04:48,600 --> 01:04:51,200
Speaker 2: John, that's pretty good hawking back. Would you watch Robin

1376
01:04:51,240 --> 01:04:54,480
Speaker 2: Hood before you got on the book? Is hawking back?

1377
01:04:54,960 --> 01:04:58,320
Speaker 3: Embarrassingly enough, I've dropped that verb twice today. I regret

1378
01:04:58,400 --> 01:04:59,920
Speaker 3: doing that. It's become a little bit of a verb

1379
01:05:00,120 --> 01:05:04,200
Speaker 3: crutch on this episode, you know, but a little you know, yeah, yeah,

1380
01:05:04,240 --> 01:05:04,960
Speaker 3: he yeah.

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Speaker 4: He.

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Speaker 3: All right, sorry, I'm underslept. That was the most exhausting

1383
01:05:12,880 --> 01:05:15,280
Speaker 3: night of my professional career, which is neither here nor area.

1384
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Speaker 2: I get that, man.

1385
01:05:17,080 --> 01:05:19,840
Speaker 3: So but Charles olivera I'd just like to say, really quickly,

1386
01:05:20,160 --> 01:05:21,920
Speaker 3: I feel like I want to get it like a

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01:05:22,160 --> 01:05:26,080
Speaker 3: Charles oliverra tattoo. And I'm not sure if he's the

1388
01:05:26,160 --> 01:05:28,520
Speaker 3: most popular excuse me fighter in the world right now,

1389
01:05:28,600 --> 01:05:30,000
Speaker 3: but he's certainly in the top three.

1390
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Speaker 1: It's crazy to think that.

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Speaker 3: Amanda noon as upon retirement sort of said I want

1392
01:05:34,760 --> 01:05:36,760
Speaker 3: some Brazilian to you know, take the throw now and

1393
01:05:36,800 --> 01:05:38,360
Speaker 3: become a champion, because at the time there were no

1394
01:05:38,440 --> 01:05:42,440
Speaker 3: Brazilian champions, right, and Alex Padata and Charles Olivera two

1395
01:05:42,440 --> 01:05:44,880
Speaker 3: of the biggest three stars in the company right now essentially,

1396
01:05:44,880 --> 01:05:47,480
Speaker 3: and Aleschandre Pantosia has also won the belt as well.

1397
01:05:47,560 --> 01:05:49,800
Speaker 3: My A Bueno Silva was not able to get that done, right,

1398
01:05:49,880 --> 01:05:54,120
Speaker 3: But it's just amazing what Charles Olivera has become. And

1399
01:05:54,400 --> 01:05:56,160
Speaker 3: even if the lot of novations on this night were

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01:05:56,200 --> 01:05:59,600
Speaker 3: reserved for Alex Podata, Charles Olivera has a relationship with

1401
01:05:59,680 --> 01:06:02,560
Speaker 3: this fan base that is on a level that you know,

1402
01:06:02,720 --> 01:06:03,920
Speaker 3: people can only dream up.

1403
01:06:04,160 --> 01:06:05,200
Speaker 1: Can we get to bow Nickel?

1404
01:06:05,280 --> 01:06:05,440
Speaker 2: Ray?

1405
01:06:06,760 --> 01:06:08,600
Speaker 1: I got like seven more minutes with Ray long go?

1406
01:06:08,680 --> 01:06:10,120
Speaker 1: What is the rest of your day? Hold? Ray?

1407
01:06:10,200 --> 01:06:14,200
Speaker 2: By the way, I'm just uh might say, I cancel

1408
01:06:14,280 --> 01:06:17,240
Speaker 2: all my my private lessons. I'm going into workout and

1409
01:06:17,320 --> 01:06:20,320
Speaker 2: then I'll teach the the seven o'clock list.

1410
01:06:20,960 --> 01:06:23,280
Speaker 3: Maybe in the future you don't even book those privates

1411
01:06:23,320 --> 01:06:25,120
Speaker 3: on a Monday following a pay per view when you're

1412
01:06:25,160 --> 01:06:27,280
Speaker 3: when you're crossing time zones on the way back, right,

1413
01:06:27,440 --> 01:06:28,880
Speaker 3: not want to inconvenience those people.

1414
01:06:28,880 --> 01:06:30,080
Speaker 1: You might as well just get ahead of it and

1415
01:06:30,120 --> 01:06:30,720
Speaker 1: not book them.

1416
01:06:30,680 --> 01:06:33,000
Speaker 2: Right I could, but that's what I did.

1417
01:06:34,120 --> 01:06:39,920
Speaker 1: Thanks for Thanks, No, it's out for you some of

1418
01:06:40,000 --> 01:06:41,360
Speaker 1: those some of those people listen.

1419
01:06:41,520 --> 01:06:44,520
Speaker 3: So if you guys are listening, just don't be expected

1420
01:06:44,520 --> 01:06:46,040
Speaker 3: to raise going to show up on those Mondays after

1421
01:06:46,080 --> 01:06:49,160
Speaker 3: a PA per view. Seems today he prioritized this show business,

1422
01:06:49,320 --> 01:06:53,560
Speaker 3: right I could I just wait killing his business? Is

1423
01:06:53,600 --> 01:06:54,080
Speaker 3: that what you're saying?

1424
01:06:54,120 --> 01:06:54,400
Speaker 2: Kenny?

1425
01:06:55,120 --> 01:06:57,680
Speaker 1: All right? I mean we can take this offline.

1426
01:06:57,720 --> 01:07:00,440
Speaker 3: I feel like we've done something to maybe help business.

1427
01:07:00,520 --> 01:07:05,720
Speaker 3: You know, maybe the Chicken Pound can send me some

1428
01:07:05,840 --> 01:07:07,600
Speaker 3: fucking chicken before the end time.

1429
01:07:07,720 --> 01:07:10,840
Speaker 1: You know, wow, geezeh Chicken Pound getting a shout out?

1430
01:07:11,120 --> 01:07:12,920
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, what else? Shout outs? Bone?

1431
01:07:13,320 --> 01:07:15,560
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, let's get to bow Nickel, shall we?

1432
01:07:16,120 --> 01:07:18,720
Speaker 3: Yes, Cody, maybe you can chase the quote as to

1433
01:07:18,840 --> 01:07:21,120
Speaker 3: what he said Dana White said to him after the fight.

1434
01:07:21,240 --> 01:07:23,800
Speaker 3: But Nickel comes over after the win over Cody brought it.

1435
01:07:23,960 --> 01:07:26,000
Speaker 3: She was a little bit disappointed. I know he expects

1436
01:07:26,280 --> 01:07:28,200
Speaker 3: perfection and he did get hit with the right hand

1437
01:07:28,240 --> 01:07:30,280
Speaker 3: early in this fight. But the in comes at three

1438
01:07:30,320 --> 01:07:32,400
Speaker 3: point thirty eight of round two by rear naked choke

1439
01:07:32,600 --> 01:07:35,840
Speaker 3: bo nickels six and zero realizes a stool for the

1440
01:07:35,920 --> 01:07:38,720
Speaker 3: first time in his MMA career. Right longest profile coming

1441
01:07:38,760 --> 01:07:40,320
Speaker 3: in was two minutes and fifty four seconds.

1442
01:07:40,960 --> 01:07:41,720
Speaker 1: What'd you make a bow?

1443
01:07:41,840 --> 01:07:44,600
Speaker 3: Nickel methodically moving forward, kicking off the pay per view

1444
01:07:44,640 --> 01:07:45,080
Speaker 3: ray long go.

1445
01:07:45,680 --> 01:07:48,440
Speaker 2: A couple of things. First off, the guy got booed

1446
01:07:48,480 --> 01:07:50,640
Speaker 2: at the press conference for what reason. I have no

1447
01:07:50,800 --> 01:07:52,800
Speaker 2: fucking idea. Maybe they were made he was on the

1448
01:07:53,440 --> 01:07:56,360
Speaker 2: main card, But I think more impressive than the fight

1449
01:07:56,520 --> 01:07:59,280
Speaker 2: for me was the way he handled the microphone and

1450
01:07:59,600 --> 01:08:02,200
Speaker 2: very articulate. Man, I got six goddamn fights. What do

1451
01:08:02,240 --> 01:08:05,600
Speaker 2: you want? Give me a chance to grow a little bit,

1452
01:08:05,680 --> 01:08:08,120
Speaker 2: you know what I mean? And guys like that can't

1453
01:08:08,160 --> 01:08:10,720
Speaker 2: get fights on the regional scene. Nobody will fight him.

1454
01:08:11,000 --> 01:08:13,560
Speaker 2: So he's got to do on the job training in

1455
01:08:13,680 --> 01:08:15,520
Speaker 2: the biggest show in the world. And I think he's

1456
01:08:15,560 --> 01:08:19,120
Speaker 2: doing an absolutely great job. Do I get And again

1457
01:08:19,360 --> 01:08:21,840
Speaker 2: I'm biased, and everybody could attack the shit out of me,

1458
01:08:21,920 --> 01:08:24,559
Speaker 2: But do I get the Chris Weidman vibe? When Widman

1459
01:08:24,720 --> 01:08:26,800
Speaker 2: was coming up, you know he was going in there

1460
01:08:26,960 --> 01:08:30,120
Speaker 2: like you know he was. He was taking people out

1461
01:08:30,240 --> 01:08:33,320
Speaker 2: you know the law is. You know Moonyos was a

1462
01:08:33,400 --> 01:08:35,640
Speaker 2: good wrestler. I mean he did some stuff coming up,

1463
01:08:35,680 --> 01:08:38,160
Speaker 2: and he had no fights. He had five or six fights?

1464
01:08:38,160 --> 01:08:39,560
Speaker 2: How many fights did he have when he fought for

1465
01:08:39,640 --> 01:08:41,920
Speaker 2: the title. So I'm not getting that vibe because I

1466
01:08:42,000 --> 01:08:44,280
Speaker 2: think Widman had a different type of presence and he

1467
01:08:44,400 --> 01:08:47,200
Speaker 2: wanted everything as quick as possible. But what I love

1468
01:08:47,240 --> 01:08:50,519
Speaker 2: about bo Nichola is he's taking his time and I

1469
01:08:50,640 --> 01:08:53,120
Speaker 2: think it's really going to pay off him. He's super intelligent.

1470
01:08:53,200 --> 01:08:56,959
Speaker 2: I love the way he spoke. Obviously he's he's talented

1471
01:08:57,000 --> 01:09:00,320
Speaker 2: as a motherfucker, but I think he's got the right thing.

1472
01:09:00,439 --> 01:09:03,120
Speaker 2: He doesn't want to be pushed into anything big. Give

1473
01:09:03,200 --> 01:09:05,000
Speaker 2: him a chance to grow because again, you can't get

1474
01:09:05,080 --> 01:09:08,200
Speaker 2: fights on the regional circuit. I'm there right promote fights.

1475
01:09:08,320 --> 01:09:11,160
Speaker 2: Nobody's fighting a guy like bow Nickel. And like I

1476
01:09:11,320 --> 01:09:13,320
Speaker 2: think he said, if you get the contract, just sign

1477
01:09:13,400 --> 01:09:16,240
Speaker 2: the god damn contract because you know it is what

1478
01:09:16,400 --> 01:09:18,799
Speaker 2: it is, and let him have a couple of fights,

1479
01:09:18,840 --> 01:09:20,479
Speaker 2: build them up the right way, and I think you're

1480
01:09:20,520 --> 01:09:23,760
Speaker 2: going to see an outstanding champion. So he might have

1481
01:09:23,840 --> 01:09:26,240
Speaker 2: been disappointed with the performance, but I love the way

1482
01:09:26,280 --> 01:09:28,200
Speaker 2: he handled the mic. I think he's got a clear,

1483
01:09:28,600 --> 01:09:30,720
Speaker 2: clear vision of what he wants to do and how

1484
01:09:30,760 --> 01:09:33,479
Speaker 2: he wants to get there, and it sounds perfect to me.

1485
01:09:33,720 --> 01:09:36,600
Speaker 2: So Widman was a little different man. He wanted to

1486
01:09:37,520 --> 01:09:40,479
Speaker 2: know you know, you know Widman. You know when John

1487
01:09:40,560 --> 01:09:42,960
Speaker 2: Jones somebody back there that fight. I was on the plane,

1488
01:09:43,000 --> 01:09:44,680
Speaker 2: but when I got off, I had ten messages he

1489
01:09:44,720 --> 01:09:47,720
Speaker 2: wanted to fight John Jones, So he was he was

1490
01:09:47,840 --> 01:09:49,720
Speaker 2: just writing the mix from the beginning, you know what

1491
01:09:49,800 --> 01:09:52,560
Speaker 2: I mean. And it was a little different, and for

1492
01:09:52,680 --> 01:09:54,800
Speaker 2: Chris it worked out. But I think this guy's taking

1493
01:09:55,080 --> 01:09:57,599
Speaker 2: a more methodical approach and I love it. I think

1494
01:09:57,600 --> 01:09:58,439
Speaker 2: it's the right thing to do.

1495
01:09:58,640 --> 01:10:00,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, that's really valuable stuff there.

1496
01:10:00,600 --> 01:10:04,799
Speaker 3: From the legend the wise Ray Longo, Kenny bo Nickel

1497
01:10:05,360 --> 01:10:07,439
Speaker 3: thought he would be ten or eleven and oher when

1498
01:10:07,520 --> 01:10:10,639
Speaker 3: he got to the UFC, but certainly hard to find fights.

1499
01:10:10,800 --> 01:10:13,800
Speaker 3: Twice he competed on data then series no contest. Yeah,

1500
01:10:13,960 --> 01:10:15,680
Speaker 3: you know Kem Flow back in the day two and one,

1501
01:10:15,760 --> 01:10:18,040
Speaker 3: same thing. You know, who's gonna fight Cam Flow regionally?

1502
01:10:18,240 --> 01:10:21,320
Speaker 3: Kenny actually is these local promotions, I'd say no elbows,

1503
01:10:21,360 --> 01:10:24,840
Speaker 3: and Kenny's still fucking throwing elbows. So eventually I just

1504
01:10:24,880 --> 01:10:26,640
Speaker 3: got to get to the UFC. Can't find anybody to

1505
01:10:26,680 --> 01:10:29,000
Speaker 3: fight locally. But Kenny, would you make of Kenny?

1506
01:10:29,120 --> 01:10:30,880
Speaker 2: Was? And Kenny was fighting at two o five and

1507
01:10:30,920 --> 01:10:31,680
Speaker 2: he couldn't get a fight?

1508
01:10:33,120 --> 01:10:36,400
Speaker 3: Fucking crazy, unbelievable, Kenny, Uh, what'd you make of?

1509
01:10:36,439 --> 01:10:36,960
Speaker 1: Bonnickel?

1510
01:10:37,400 --> 01:10:40,479
Speaker 4: Well, listen, I can also relate to not having a

1511
01:10:40,520 --> 01:10:42,719
Speaker 4: whole lot of experience and then kind of being thrown

1512
01:10:42,760 --> 01:10:43,360
Speaker 4: into the fire.

1513
01:10:43,439 --> 01:10:45,160
Speaker 1: It's like, here you go, you're the UFC kid. You

1514
01:10:45,240 --> 01:10:46,000
Speaker 1: got four fights.

1515
01:10:46,160 --> 01:10:50,479
Speaker 4: Good luck, not easy, you know, because you're inevitably going

1516
01:10:50,560 --> 01:10:52,680
Speaker 4: to make some mistakes. Now, if you're able to make

1517
01:10:52,720 --> 01:10:55,479
Speaker 4: some mistakes and still get the wins, these are great things.

1518
01:10:55,800 --> 01:10:58,320
Speaker 4: Bon Nickel didn't have a perfect performance, but it was

1519
01:10:58,400 --> 01:11:02,000
Speaker 4: still damn good and what the first time he ever

1520
01:11:02,080 --> 01:11:04,160
Speaker 4: had to go into round two. You're gonna learn a

1521
01:11:04,240 --> 01:11:07,400
Speaker 4: lot from that process. Not every fight is gonna be perfection.

1522
01:11:07,600 --> 01:11:10,800
Speaker 4: That's not the way real combat goes. You're gonna have

1523
01:11:10,920 --> 01:11:13,920
Speaker 4: to some adversity, You're gonna make mistakes. How you react

1524
01:11:13,960 --> 01:11:16,599
Speaker 4: to those mistakes, that's when we find out who you are.

1525
01:11:16,800 --> 01:11:19,920
Speaker 4: And you know, still you can argue he hasn't experienced

1526
01:11:19,960 --> 01:11:22,320
Speaker 4: a whole lot of adversity. We haven't seen him in

1527
01:11:22,400 --> 01:11:25,120
Speaker 4: round three, four or five. We haven't seen him when

1528
01:11:25,120 --> 01:11:27,600
Speaker 4: he's hurt. We haven't seen him when he's tired. We

1529
01:11:27,680 --> 01:11:30,680
Speaker 4: will still find those things out. You can't buy experience,

1530
01:11:30,840 --> 01:11:33,559
Speaker 4: and he's gonna be learning as he goes and during

1531
01:11:33,640 --> 01:11:35,800
Speaker 4: these fights. But still, I thought it was a really

1532
01:11:35,920 --> 01:11:39,000
Speaker 4: solid performance for me. I think he wasn't really able

1533
01:11:39,120 --> 01:11:42,920
Speaker 4: to manage the energy of the fight a little bit.

1534
01:11:43,040 --> 01:11:47,360
Speaker 4: He kind of was just engaging whenever Brundage wanted to engage,

1535
01:11:48,120 --> 01:11:50,160
Speaker 4: and I think it'd be probably one of those fights

1536
01:11:50,160 --> 01:11:52,240
Speaker 4: where it seems like it was really being played very

1537
01:11:52,360 --> 01:11:55,519
Speaker 4: like almost a fast forward during the fight. I want

1538
01:11:55,600 --> 01:11:58,080
Speaker 4: to see Bo out there being able to kind of

1539
01:11:58,240 --> 01:12:01,720
Speaker 4: lead the dance go when he wants, defuse pressure what

1540
01:12:01,840 --> 01:12:03,439
Speaker 4: he wants, as opposed to kind of just be in

1541
01:12:03,520 --> 01:12:06,479
Speaker 4: this mad scramble. So I think that's probably more of

1542
01:12:06,600 --> 01:12:09,200
Speaker 4: what I would criticize. But I mean, come on, I'm

1543
01:12:09,280 --> 01:12:11,880
Speaker 4: still kind of being very picky here. Bo Nickel is

1544
01:12:12,400 --> 01:12:14,920
Speaker 4: also special and I expect him to be a champion

1545
01:12:14,960 --> 01:12:15,760
Speaker 4: in the future as well.

1546
01:12:15,880 --> 01:12:18,599
Speaker 1: Yes, there was a lot of pressure on bon Nickel.

1547
01:12:18,640 --> 01:12:21,439
Speaker 3: We asked last week, is there more pressure on him

1548
01:12:21,560 --> 01:12:24,800
Speaker 3: or Kayla Harrison or Zhongwei Lee And a lot of

1549
01:12:24,840 --> 01:12:27,000
Speaker 3: that pressure was just rooted in kicking off the pay

1550
01:12:27,040 --> 01:12:29,840
Speaker 3: per view, and Dana White came over to provide some

1551
01:12:30,400 --> 01:12:32,640
Speaker 3: reassurance and just said, if you keep doing what you're doing,

1552
01:12:32,680 --> 01:12:34,040
Speaker 3: you're going to be a big star. I just think

1553
01:12:34,120 --> 01:12:37,280
Speaker 3: some of Bo's disappointment was not only his own perfection,

1554
01:12:37,439 --> 01:12:40,280
Speaker 3: but kicking off the biggest show in UFC history, and

1555
01:12:40,880 --> 01:12:43,760
Speaker 3: all those big favorites Kayla Harrison, Bonnickel, Jongwei Lee were

1556
01:12:43,800 --> 01:12:45,879
Speaker 3: able to hold serve as the favorite.

1557
01:12:45,960 --> 01:12:47,840
Speaker 1: Ray, I'm supposed to let you go right now?

1558
01:12:48,160 --> 01:12:48,800
Speaker 2: Yes? Good?

1559
01:12:49,120 --> 01:12:53,360
Speaker 1: All right? So I mean do I go to Lemmi

1560
01:12:53,479 --> 01:12:54,280
Speaker 1: or pro Hoska.

1561
01:12:55,160 --> 01:12:57,599
Speaker 2: Let's first of all, let's talk about Kayla Harrison, because

1562
01:12:57,600 --> 01:12:58,920
Speaker 2: they had the up and doing the media.

1563
01:12:59,280 --> 01:13:00,320
Speaker 1: He's like, how about neither.

1564
01:13:00,840 --> 01:13:04,840
Speaker 2: Absolutely absolutely love her. This is a great soul of

1565
01:13:04,920 --> 01:13:07,639
Speaker 2: a person. I think she stands for the right stuff.

1566
01:13:08,080 --> 01:13:11,919
Speaker 2: What a what a performance she had, handles the mike beautifully,

1567
01:13:12,000 --> 01:13:15,040
Speaker 2: give it a title shot. I believe she beat rock

1568
01:13:15,120 --> 01:13:17,760
Speaker 2: heel penalty and she deserves it. I think she represents

1569
01:13:18,560 --> 01:13:21,560
Speaker 2: you know, women's mma beautifully and like again, I just,

1570
01:13:21,760 --> 01:13:23,320
Speaker 2: you know, for meeting her for the first time, she

1571
01:13:23,479 --> 01:13:26,479
Speaker 2: felt like a like an East Coast ball busted. Mentally,

1572
01:13:26,560 --> 01:13:29,200
Speaker 2: I love her and I think she deserves the shot.

1573
01:13:29,320 --> 01:13:31,719
Speaker 2: That's the call. Give it and give it a title

1574
01:13:31,760 --> 01:13:34,120
Speaker 2: shot next. She's she's ready for it. She's a professional

1575
01:13:34,200 --> 01:13:36,479
Speaker 2: when you talk to her, Oh yeah, you know what

1576
01:13:36,560 --> 01:13:40,960
Speaker 2: I mean, Like on every level, she's exactly what you

1577
01:13:41,080 --> 01:13:44,240
Speaker 2: want and a fighter and a person and everything. So

1578
01:13:44,479 --> 01:13:48,479
Speaker 2: hats off to Kayla Harrison on a great UFC debut.

1579
01:13:48,560 --> 01:13:50,760
Speaker 2: And I think Kenny had mentioned something before where she

1580
01:13:51,000 --> 01:13:54,000
Speaker 2: wasn't put on the there were so many fights, she

1581
01:13:54,240 --> 01:13:57,240
Speaker 2: kind of wasn't the main attraction, which takes a lot

1582
01:13:57,280 --> 01:13:59,519
Speaker 2: of pressure off you can. I think that's a really

1583
01:13:59,560 --> 01:14:01,760
Speaker 2: good point. Whether it was a bothered her or not,

1584
01:14:02,000 --> 01:14:05,360
Speaker 2: because she's got such great experience. Who knows, but those

1585
01:14:05,439 --> 01:14:07,840
Speaker 2: Octagon jit is with the UFC and you're at that

1586
01:14:07,960 --> 01:14:11,280
Speaker 2: press conference. Oh yeah, everybody's human. I mean, it could

1587
01:14:11,479 --> 01:14:15,200
Speaker 2: it could really affect you. But she seemed to be

1588
01:14:15,400 --> 01:14:20,200
Speaker 2: totally unaffected. She's dialed in and she deserves that shot.

1589
01:14:20,240 --> 01:14:22,639
Speaker 2: I'm one hundred percent behind a always be a big

1590
01:14:22,720 --> 01:14:25,880
Speaker 2: fan of hus moving forward. I think she's she's unbelievable.

1591
01:14:26,080 --> 01:14:28,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, she'll be a five to one favorite, probably to

1592
01:14:28,240 --> 01:14:31,519
Speaker 3: beat my friend Raquel Pennington if any buddy.

1593
01:14:32,040 --> 01:14:33,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, well they're all my friends. I mean, I just

1594
01:14:33,560 --> 01:14:35,040
Speaker 1: got to know Kayla, but I like her as well.

1595
01:14:35,040 --> 01:14:36,200
Speaker 1: But yeah, Richall and I are close.

1596
01:14:36,240 --> 01:14:39,120
Speaker 3: And uh, I remember being with her after one of

1597
01:14:39,160 --> 01:14:42,520
Speaker 3: her two losses to Holly Holm and just tremendously frustrating,

1598
01:14:42,560 --> 01:14:44,200
Speaker 3: and then she reeled off you know, five or six

1599
01:14:44,240 --> 01:14:46,120
Speaker 3: in a row to become the world champion thereafter. So

1600
01:14:46,840 --> 01:14:50,200
Speaker 3: but Laura Sanko, my great colleague and friends, said that

1601
01:14:50,320 --> 01:14:53,000
Speaker 3: she feels like Kayla Harrison to the UFC is exactly

1602
01:14:53,040 --> 01:14:54,040
Speaker 3: what women's MMA.

1603
01:14:54,240 --> 01:14:54,800
Speaker 1: Needs right now.

1604
01:14:54,840 --> 01:14:56,040
Speaker 2: And I'll go out of that.

1605
01:14:56,360 --> 01:14:59,759
Speaker 1: I think Kayla just just a break fresh at the table.

1606
01:14:59,800 --> 01:15:03,280
Speaker 3: And if anybody can speak Kenny to to you know

1607
01:15:03,479 --> 01:15:07,280
Speaker 3: what she has accomplished professionally and dealt with personally, it's

1608
01:15:07,360 --> 01:15:11,479
Speaker 3: you right, saving her family and adopting these two beautiful

1609
01:15:11,600 --> 01:15:15,639
Speaker 3: children and raising them on her own. Just a tremendous

1610
01:15:15,680 --> 01:15:18,120
Speaker 3: ambassador for MMA in the UFC. And she's got a

1611
01:15:18,160 --> 01:15:19,040
Speaker 3: little edge to her as well.

1612
01:15:19,120 --> 01:15:19,240
Speaker 2: Right.

1613
01:15:19,280 --> 01:15:20,800
Speaker 3: She moved to Boston when she was sixteen. I don't

1614
01:15:20,800 --> 01:15:24,280
Speaker 3: know if we can claim her as Massachusetts natives as

1615
01:15:24,400 --> 01:15:27,640
Speaker 3: you know, like first you know Massachusetts fighter, right, Like

1616
01:15:27,680 --> 01:15:29,080
Speaker 3: when we talk about ken fl Will being the best

1617
01:15:29,240 --> 01:15:32,000
Speaker 3: fighter at in Massachusetts, ro like put Kayla in that class,

1618
01:15:32,040 --> 01:15:32,920
Speaker 3: are we Kenvil.

1619
01:15:33,080 --> 01:15:34,920
Speaker 4: That's a good thing because she would be the better

1620
01:15:35,000 --> 01:15:38,439
Speaker 4: fighter out of Jesus, you know, listen, I think that

1621
01:15:38,640 --> 01:15:41,400
Speaker 4: she went out there and did Kayla Harrison things.

1622
01:15:41,439 --> 01:15:42,960
Speaker 1: I mean, that's what she does best.

1623
01:15:43,040 --> 01:15:45,400
Speaker 4: She gets a hold of you, she throws you on

1624
01:15:45,520 --> 01:15:48,320
Speaker 4: the ground with something spectacular.

1625
01:15:48,000 --> 01:15:49,400
Speaker 1: And then she beats you up.

1626
01:15:49,640 --> 01:15:53,200
Speaker 4: And we have to remind people that how many people

1627
01:15:53,360 --> 01:15:56,120
Speaker 4: go out and fight Holly home and actually look good.

1628
01:15:57,760 --> 01:16:00,600
Speaker 4: Not a whole lot of people. Holly has a for

1629
01:16:00,800 --> 01:16:03,240
Speaker 4: making you look bad, even in wins, even if you

1630
01:16:03,360 --> 01:16:05,479
Speaker 4: beat her. It's not one of these things where you

1631
01:16:05,600 --> 01:16:08,880
Speaker 4: can dominate someone like Holly Hold. Rarely does that happen.

1632
01:16:10,120 --> 01:16:13,640
Speaker 4: And with all that experience, with all that athleticism and

1633
01:16:13,800 --> 01:16:16,800
Speaker 4: size and striking ability, you know she's going to be

1634
01:16:16,840 --> 01:16:18,280
Speaker 4: a tough matchup for anybody.

1635
01:16:18,960 --> 01:16:22,200
Speaker 1: And this was pretty flawless from Kayla Harrison.

1636
01:16:22,240 --> 01:16:24,680
Speaker 4: Aside from that takedown where Holly was able to get

1637
01:16:24,720 --> 01:16:27,639
Speaker 4: on top, Holly still didn't take advantage of that position.

1638
01:16:27,760 --> 01:16:30,240
Speaker 4: It was Kayla kept her composure, got right back to

1639
01:16:30,280 --> 01:16:33,519
Speaker 4: her feet, went right back to work, got the takedown, took.

1640
01:16:33,439 --> 01:16:36,400
Speaker 1: Over nasty, nasty, grounded pound.

1641
01:16:36,479 --> 01:16:38,400
Speaker 4: I mean, she was strong all the way at one

1642
01:16:38,479 --> 01:16:41,960
Speaker 4: hundred and fifty five pounds, one hundred and forty five pounds.

1643
01:16:42,080 --> 01:16:44,400
Speaker 4: I can't even imagine what it's like to lock up

1644
01:16:44,439 --> 01:16:47,799
Speaker 4: with Kayla Harrison at one hundred and thirty five pounds.

1645
01:16:48,160 --> 01:16:49,680
Speaker 4: Just the fact that she was able to do that.

1646
01:16:49,880 --> 01:16:52,160
Speaker 4: She was on point from the get go. I was

1647
01:16:52,240 --> 01:16:57,479
Speaker 4: seeing her so slowly lose that weight, cut down, everything's perfect.

1648
01:16:57,840 --> 01:16:59,880
Speaker 4: The UFC really.

1649
01:17:00,200 --> 01:17:02,800
Speaker 1: Has a star in Kayla Harrison, Like you just saw

1650
01:17:02,840 --> 01:17:03,240
Speaker 1: it coming.

1651
01:17:03,320 --> 01:17:05,160
Speaker 4: When I was hearing it she was maybe going to

1652
01:17:05,200 --> 01:17:06,479
Speaker 4: go over to the UFC, I was like, this is

1653
01:17:06,640 --> 01:17:08,400
Speaker 4: probably one of the best things they could do for

1654
01:17:08,560 --> 01:17:11,760
Speaker 4: women's MMA. She is going to be huge. She's going

1655
01:17:11,840 --> 01:17:14,759
Speaker 4: to be massive. People still don't know the full story

1656
01:17:14,920 --> 01:17:18,280
Speaker 4: behind her, what she's accomplished. As that story comes out

1657
01:17:18,360 --> 01:17:20,920
Speaker 4: more and more, I think she's going to resonate that

1658
01:17:21,080 --> 01:17:23,759
Speaker 4: much more with the fans. But she's got the skills

1659
01:17:23,800 --> 01:17:26,120
Speaker 4: to back it up. She's got the pedigree, she's got

1660
01:17:26,200 --> 01:17:29,120
Speaker 4: the story and she showed the whole world that she

1661
01:17:29,280 --> 01:17:31,320
Speaker 4: has the skills to back it up as well. Not

1662
01:17:31,439 --> 01:17:32,920
Speaker 4: a whole lot of people can go out there and

1663
01:17:32,960 --> 01:17:34,160
Speaker 4: make Holly Holm look like that.

1664
01:17:34,720 --> 01:17:37,519
Speaker 2: And the unknown John was can she make the thirty five?

1665
01:17:37,760 --> 01:17:41,120
Speaker 2: She's jacked that girl. So she made the weight. I

1666
01:17:41,240 --> 01:17:44,360
Speaker 2: was on the bus with her. I think after before whatever,

1667
01:17:44,800 --> 01:17:47,679
Speaker 2: she never waved in her personality. You know, some people

1668
01:17:47,760 --> 01:17:49,200
Speaker 2: don't want to look at you, they want to talk

1669
01:17:49,280 --> 01:17:53,559
Speaker 2: to you. She was upbeat every aspect of that whole thing.

1670
01:17:53,720 --> 01:17:56,120
Speaker 2: So again, hats off to hats off to a team.

1671
01:17:56,200 --> 01:18:00,959
Speaker 2: She's got a great corner Steve Marco Anderson. Mike Brown's

1672
01:18:01,000 --> 01:18:03,519
Speaker 2: obviously great her strength and conditioning coach. I can't think

1673
01:18:03,560 --> 01:18:05,920
Speaker 2: of his name, but I know he consulted my great

1674
01:18:05,960 --> 01:18:08,479
Speaker 2: friend Tony Ricci was a part of that and helping

1675
01:18:08,520 --> 01:18:11,960
Speaker 2: her make the weight. And Tony had nothing but beautiful

1676
01:18:12,040 --> 01:18:14,800
Speaker 2: things to say about her. So she's surrounded by the

1677
01:18:14,920 --> 01:18:17,040
Speaker 2: right people. She's in the right spot. Like you say,

1678
01:18:17,120 --> 01:18:20,800
Speaker 2: she's got the backstory, she lives it, she speaks it,

1679
01:18:21,160 --> 01:18:23,280
Speaker 2: and she's you know you just when you talk to you.

1680
01:18:23,520 --> 01:18:27,000
Speaker 2: You know there's something special about this girl, there really is.

1681
01:18:27,120 --> 01:18:29,679
Speaker 2: She's just a I just say, like a beautiful soul,

1682
01:18:29,800 --> 01:18:33,480
Speaker 2: That's what I see. And I don't think I'm mistaken,

1683
01:18:33,560 --> 01:18:36,000
Speaker 2: Like I don't think she's pulling the wool over anybody.

1684
01:18:36,080 --> 01:18:39,800
Speaker 2: So she's a really sweetheart, this girl, and I just

1685
01:18:39,880 --> 01:18:41,120
Speaker 2: wish her nothing but the best.

1686
01:18:41,560 --> 01:18:44,280
Speaker 3: She was on my flight back to Miami took about

1687
01:18:44,280 --> 01:18:47,240
Speaker 3: a lot of that overhead space, did Kayla Harrison.

1688
01:18:47,240 --> 01:18:48,519
Speaker 1: I'll tell you that, all right.

1689
01:18:48,680 --> 01:18:51,160
Speaker 3: So I thought on this night, it was a particularly

1690
01:18:51,320 --> 01:18:54,799
Speaker 3: outstanding night for my broadcast partners, Joe Rogan and Daniel Cormier.

1691
01:18:54,880 --> 01:18:57,760
Speaker 3: And if you could only see Joe walk into the

1692
01:18:57,880 --> 01:19:00,960
Speaker 3: dressing room just jumping out out of his skin with

1693
01:19:01,240 --> 01:19:04,400
Speaker 3: enthusiasm and excitement. And we were talking about the depth

1694
01:19:04,439 --> 01:19:06,160
Speaker 3: of the card, and I hope I'm not speaking out

1695
01:19:06,200 --> 01:19:09,479
Speaker 3: a turn, but we mentioned Diego Lopez versus Sadik Yusef,

1696
01:19:09,680 --> 01:19:12,360
Speaker 3: and Joe said he thinks Diego Lopez is going to

1697
01:19:12,400 --> 01:19:14,760
Speaker 3: be a world champion. And then Diego Lopez promptly goes

1698
01:19:14,800 --> 01:19:16,840
Speaker 3: out there can flow in a minute and twenty nine

1699
01:19:16,880 --> 01:19:21,000
Speaker 3: seconds and disposes of super Sadik Usef in a way

1700
01:19:21,080 --> 01:19:25,559
Speaker 3: we have never seen before. Like I'm not sure where

1701
01:19:25,680 --> 01:19:28,040
Speaker 3: the credit's supposed to be dispersed in terms of like

1702
01:19:28,120 --> 01:19:32,240
Speaker 3: a fucking shy pie chart, right, But like Francisco Grosso man, like,

1703
01:19:32,320 --> 01:19:36,280
Speaker 3: what this dude is developing is unbelievable, Ken Flow, Diego

1704
01:19:36,360 --> 01:19:39,000
Speaker 3: Lopez man, like this is a BJJ coach, just a

1705
01:19:39,040 --> 01:19:41,200
Speaker 3: five tool player. I wouldn't be surprised if this guy's

1706
01:19:41,240 --> 01:19:43,360
Speaker 3: in a championship setting in a win or two. Man,

1707
01:19:43,479 --> 01:19:46,400
Speaker 3: what a rise to start a man, It's crazy.

1708
01:19:47,080 --> 01:19:49,439
Speaker 4: Well, this was one of those fights, right, Like every

1709
01:19:49,560 --> 01:19:51,720
Speaker 4: fight you're trying to prove something, But this was one

1710
01:19:51,760 --> 01:19:54,840
Speaker 4: of those fights for me where I go, Okay, we're

1711
01:19:54,880 --> 01:19:56,320
Speaker 4: going to find out if he's going to be a

1712
01:19:56,400 --> 01:19:59,519
Speaker 4: title contender, if he's able to beat Yusef, just to

1713
01:19:59,560 --> 01:20:01,439
Speaker 4: get it to decision when would be impressed and to say,

1714
01:20:01,479 --> 01:20:03,920
Speaker 4: hey he's here, people need to watch out.

1715
01:20:05,200 --> 01:20:05,360
Speaker 2: You know.

1716
01:20:05,520 --> 01:20:07,479
Speaker 4: Not only did we get that answer, but I think

1717
01:20:07,520 --> 01:20:11,240
Speaker 4: we got the answer that he's now calm inside the octagon.

1718
01:20:11,439 --> 01:20:13,840
Speaker 4: He knows how to manage the energy of a fight.

1719
01:20:14,040 --> 01:20:16,479
Speaker 4: As opposed to say Bo Nickel. He went out there

1720
01:20:16,800 --> 01:20:19,479
Speaker 4: was able to take a lot of what Yusef does

1721
01:20:19,640 --> 01:20:22,599
Speaker 4: well away from him. He got into that boxing range.

1722
01:20:22,640 --> 01:20:24,920
Speaker 4: He showed that he shows he could throw the shorter,

1723
01:20:25,439 --> 01:20:29,879
Speaker 4: harder punches in tight and he never let Yusef get started.

1724
01:20:30,320 --> 01:20:32,720
Speaker 4: That's what you do against a guy who comes with

1725
01:20:32,840 --> 01:20:36,280
Speaker 4: a very methodical game and likes to plan and strategize

1726
01:20:36,320 --> 01:20:39,519
Speaker 4: from the outside and take his time. Lopez never let

1727
01:20:39,600 --> 01:20:42,599
Speaker 4: him even get into that role. It was really cool

1728
01:20:42,680 --> 01:20:45,479
Speaker 4: to watch. And for me, you know, this was one

1729
01:20:45,520 --> 01:20:48,400
Speaker 4: of the ones that I got wrong. I'm not surprised

1730
01:20:48,439 --> 01:20:50,640
Speaker 4: by the result, but the way that he did it

1731
01:20:50,760 --> 01:20:53,639
Speaker 4: and as quickly as he did it was surprising. Lopez

1732
01:20:53,720 --> 01:20:55,560
Speaker 4: is the real deal. This is a guy that is

1733
01:20:55,640 --> 01:20:57,920
Speaker 4: a future title contender, no question about that.

1734
01:20:58,880 --> 01:21:02,400
Speaker 2: And I'll tell you Lope has the X factor. Yeah,

1735
01:21:02,400 --> 01:21:03,680
Speaker 2: and you know what that factor is.

1736
01:21:03,880 --> 01:21:05,839
Speaker 1: What's that his fucking haircut?

1737
01:21:05,920 --> 01:21:09,000
Speaker 2: Because I guarantee you you cut that fucking hair if

1738
01:21:09,040 --> 01:21:11,760
Speaker 2: this guy can't win a fight, this this is Sampson.

1739
01:21:13,200 --> 01:21:15,560
Speaker 2: I'll tell you that haircut is what does it? But no,

1740
01:21:15,960 --> 01:21:18,400
Speaker 2: what a great kid surrounded by great people. We saw

1741
01:21:18,479 --> 01:21:21,280
Speaker 2: him at the well, we were all taking the photos

1742
01:21:21,360 --> 01:21:26,200
Speaker 2: at the end. Great kid again, Grosso Francisco Grasso, absolutely

1743
01:21:26,280 --> 01:21:29,200
Speaker 2: great job. But what he's doing over there all all

1744
01:21:29,280 --> 01:21:31,680
Speaker 2: sweetheart people and that kid, that kid's come with the

1745
01:21:31,760 --> 01:21:35,120
Speaker 2: fight man, even his call out of the other guy,

1746
01:21:35,160 --> 01:21:36,920
Speaker 2: who the hell wants to fight that guy? Now, it's

1747
01:21:36,960 --> 01:21:40,080
Speaker 2: never like an exciting fight. He'll give me shit, That's

1748
01:21:40,160 --> 01:21:40,679
Speaker 2: what's true.

1749
01:21:40,800 --> 01:21:42,400
Speaker 1: He's a good calling out mob.

1750
01:21:42,520 --> 01:21:44,840
Speaker 3: Sorry if Levy almost finished him four times in their

1751
01:21:44,880 --> 01:21:46,920
Speaker 3: fight that he took on five days notice. But dude,

1752
01:21:46,960 --> 01:21:51,280
Speaker 3: you're right, Ray like calling for him again, like you know, and.

1753
01:21:51,479 --> 01:21:54,560
Speaker 2: As far as the Bo Nickel comparison, you know, Diego's

1754
01:21:54,600 --> 01:21:57,599
Speaker 2: got five times the amount of fights exactly. I mean,

1755
01:21:57,640 --> 01:21:59,439
Speaker 2: he should be able to manage the crowd and the

1756
01:21:59,680 --> 01:22:02,160
Speaker 2: energy at this point, Bo Nicol, that's again what I

1757
01:22:02,240 --> 01:22:04,400
Speaker 2: love about what he was saying, give me some time.

1758
01:22:04,520 --> 01:22:06,640
Speaker 2: I mean, geez, I just got here. What do you

1759
01:22:06,840 --> 01:22:08,200
Speaker 2: you know? What do you buy my bulls?

1760
01:22:08,400 --> 01:22:10,240
Speaker 1: The Diego Lopez story is crazy, right.

1761
01:22:10,320 --> 01:22:12,519
Speaker 3: He competed on the Contender series, I believe lost and

1762
01:22:12,560 --> 01:22:14,759
Speaker 3: then went and lost his next fight, and then obviously

1763
01:22:14,800 --> 01:22:16,799
Speaker 3: it was hard for him to find fights at times.

1764
01:22:16,960 --> 01:22:19,880
Speaker 3: But man, like he went in, there's this weekend, not

1765
01:22:20,000 --> 01:22:21,599
Speaker 3: even ranks, so he's going to be ranked right now.

1766
01:22:21,640 --> 01:22:22,960
Speaker 3: You better hope he doesn't come for your guy, Al

1767
01:22:23,040 --> 01:22:27,320
Speaker 3: Jamain Sterling, you know. But now, Lopez is going to

1768
01:22:27,360 --> 01:22:28,720
Speaker 3: be a star. I'd like to see him get a

1769
01:22:28,800 --> 01:22:30,759
Speaker 3: fucking main event. I know he only made his UFC

1770
01:22:30,920 --> 01:22:33,960
Speaker 3: debut like a year ago, but he's a bona fide

1771
01:22:34,000 --> 01:22:36,280
Speaker 3: featherweight contender. Selfishly, I just want him to have a

1772
01:22:36,320 --> 01:22:37,800
Speaker 3: main event because I know it's going to end in

1773
01:22:37,920 --> 01:22:40,280
Speaker 3: round one instead of you know, round five at the

1774
01:22:40,360 --> 01:22:42,519
Speaker 3: end of the night. Little extra recreational time with the

1775
01:22:42,600 --> 01:22:43,559
Speaker 3: Ray Longos of the world.

1776
01:22:43,640 --> 01:22:45,680
Speaker 1: You know, Wow, all right, I like we your head zi.

1777
01:22:46,240 --> 01:22:48,719
Speaker 2: All right, let's touch on the Lemmy for a minute

1778
01:22:48,760 --> 01:22:52,080
Speaker 2: before I forget Please Anthony de Lemmi six or oh

1779
01:22:52,360 --> 01:22:56,600
Speaker 2: great victory at the CFFC. Look for this kid on

1780
01:22:56,680 --> 01:22:59,280
Speaker 2: the Contender series this summer. Is a really nice kid,

1781
01:22:59,640 --> 01:23:02,960
Speaker 2: great family. Let's fucking do it. But hats off the dilemma.

1782
01:23:03,320 --> 01:23:07,679
Speaker 2: We all watched the fight during Al Joe's ceremonial dinner,

1783
01:23:08,080 --> 01:23:11,240
Speaker 2: uh the night before the fight, and everybody was ecstatic,

1784
01:23:11,360 --> 01:23:12,439
Speaker 2: so good energy.

1785
01:23:13,240 --> 01:23:17,920
Speaker 3: Ray Longo just managing obligations as usual, right, team Benvable.

1786
01:23:17,960 --> 01:23:19,600
Speaker 1: But you wasn't the fight in Vegas or.

1787
01:23:19,600 --> 01:23:23,320
Speaker 2: No, No, that fight was in uh the hard Rock

1788
01:23:23,400 --> 01:23:24,800
Speaker 2: at uh in Jolantic City.

1789
01:23:26,280 --> 01:23:26,760
Speaker 1: All right, man?

1790
01:23:26,840 --> 01:23:29,360
Speaker 3: Well, uh, you know have a great data better evening.

1791
01:23:29,400 --> 01:23:33,439
Speaker 3: We appreciate your extended time. Uh we will U we

1792
01:23:33,479 --> 01:23:36,040
Speaker 3: will start a GoFundMe for your pay per views.

1793
01:23:39,000 --> 01:23:40,880
Speaker 2: You want me to put the rolicks up there again?

1794
01:23:41,000 --> 01:23:42,360
Speaker 2: Is that what you want to do? Can you know

1795
01:23:42,520 --> 01:23:46,759
Speaker 2: that fun rolling up there? It was great to finally

1796
01:23:46,800 --> 01:23:49,519
Speaker 2: get to see you guys out in Vegas. I'm to

1797
01:23:49,560 --> 01:23:52,920
Speaker 2: get even though it was only shot Kenny. Always always

1798
01:23:52,960 --> 01:23:55,400
Speaker 2: great to catch up with you and absolutely like again,

1799
01:23:55,439 --> 01:23:58,200
Speaker 2: I was glad to see lines of people wanting to

1800
01:23:58,240 --> 01:24:01,439
Speaker 2: take pictures with you guys. You guys give back. I mean,

1801
01:24:01,439 --> 01:24:03,000
Speaker 2: that's what it's all about. Now, what did we have

1802
01:24:03,120 --> 01:24:05,880
Speaker 2: this platform for to be selfish? You want to be

1803
01:24:05,920 --> 01:24:10,360
Speaker 2: a selfish a little bit, a little we give.

1804
01:24:10,320 --> 01:24:13,479
Speaker 1: Back a little bet. That's the goal, buddy.

1805
01:24:13,640 --> 01:24:17,719
Speaker 3: And we actually were contemplating on Sunday trying to figure

1806
01:24:17,720 --> 01:24:20,040
Speaker 3: out a way to sort of fight through the fatigue

1807
01:24:20,080 --> 01:24:22,040
Speaker 3: and get out get something out there, because I know

1808
01:24:22,080 --> 01:24:24,040
Speaker 3: people were looking for some content on the day after

1809
01:24:24,120 --> 01:24:24,960
Speaker 3: you have see three hundred.

1810
01:24:25,000 --> 01:24:26,000
Speaker 1: But we're here live on a Monday.

1811
01:24:26,000 --> 01:24:28,080
Speaker 3: We're gonna let you go, so uh, you know, go

1812
01:24:28,240 --> 01:24:30,640
Speaker 3: sweat it out and uh we will talk to you

1813
01:24:30,720 --> 01:24:32,519
Speaker 3: in about a week. But congratulations to you and al

1814
01:24:32,560 --> 01:24:34,519
Speaker 3: Jamain Sterlam. Just having a little bit of fun at

1815
01:24:34,560 --> 01:24:37,800
Speaker 3: your guys' expense. You know, rumblings in Massachusetts, the cater

1816
01:24:37,920 --> 01:24:39,880
Speaker 3: through the fight, but you know you guys can celebrate that.

1817
01:24:41,400 --> 01:24:44,519
Speaker 2: Hey, listen, thank you guys, thanks for everything. It was

1818
01:24:44,560 --> 01:24:46,960
Speaker 2: a great weekend. Shout out the old a minute, man,

1819
01:24:47,040 --> 01:24:49,000
Speaker 2: I mean the love I got in Vegas this time

1820
01:24:49,040 --> 01:24:52,160
Speaker 2: I haven't experienced in a long time. So I think

1821
01:24:52,240 --> 01:24:55,479
Speaker 2: the crowd, the fans, everybody was on point. It just,

1822
01:24:56,640 --> 01:24:59,920
Speaker 2: you know, world's collided. Whatever that's saying, is where everything

1823
01:25:00,080 --> 01:25:01,760
Speaker 2: meets at the right point. I think it was just

1824
01:25:01,840 --> 01:25:05,479
Speaker 2: a phenomenal weekend and you guys are the best. Thanks.

1825
01:25:05,800 --> 01:25:06,719
Speaker 2: I'm mad he here.

1826
01:25:06,840 --> 01:25:09,320
Speaker 1: There he is, You're the man. We love you.

1827
01:25:10,040 --> 01:25:13,400
Speaker 3: Great to see you see these old guys like Ken

1828
01:25:13,479 --> 01:25:15,200
Speaker 3: Fo and Ray Longo reconnect.

1829
01:25:15,479 --> 01:25:17,559
Speaker 1: I'm just getting on Kevin Flowe's age, but.

1830
01:25:19,600 --> 01:25:23,240
Speaker 3: He just loves seeing you and you guys just obviously

1831
01:25:23,400 --> 01:25:26,640
Speaker 3: go way back, and yeah, it's it's always cool when

1832
01:25:26,640 --> 01:25:29,880
Speaker 3: we can get everybody together. So thanks to the Virgin Hotel,

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Speaker 3: Thanks to Big Ron Pellegrino. Great to have our producer

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Speaker 3: Cody Merrow out there. Jason Annik, the president of the

1835
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Speaker 3: Diego Lopez fan club. Diego Lopez is insane, right and

1836
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Speaker 3: an even better human being like Francisco Grosso, Alexa Grosso,

1837
01:25:42,000 --> 01:25:45,720
Speaker 3: Diego Lopez, Alessandro Costa. These are elite human beings and

1838
01:25:46,240 --> 01:25:48,400
Speaker 3: to see them realize the success is what life is

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Speaker 1: All right, so.

1872
01:27:13,160 --> 01:27:15,439
Speaker 3: Real quickly, Kenny, I'm gonna try to be efficient on

1873
01:27:15,560 --> 01:27:17,920
Speaker 3: some of these final fights at UFC three hundred and

1874
01:27:17,960 --> 01:27:19,800
Speaker 3: then time permitting, we'll get some thoughts from you on

1875
01:27:19,960 --> 01:27:24,120
Speaker 3: Connor McGregor, Michael Chandler and potentially even islamikashev against Dustin Pourier,

1876
01:27:24,720 --> 01:27:26,679
Speaker 3: both of which were announced over the weekend. Also Sean

1877
01:27:26,720 --> 01:27:30,719
Speaker 3: Strickland Polo Costa. So al Jamain Sterling we talked about

1878
01:27:30,760 --> 01:27:32,719
Speaker 3: his performance. I just wanted to get your quick thoughts

1879
01:27:32,760 --> 01:27:36,439
Speaker 3: on Calvin Cater because I don't know that there's much

1880
01:27:36,920 --> 01:27:39,320
Speaker 3: fight left in this dog. I mean, he has, you know,

1881
01:27:39,680 --> 01:27:41,400
Speaker 3: been through it to get to it. He has often

1882
01:27:41,439 --> 01:27:45,200
Speaker 3: talked about the journey being the destination. He has realized

1883
01:27:45,200 --> 01:27:47,800
Speaker 3: a lot of success as a promoter. This was a

1884
01:27:47,920 --> 01:27:51,360
Speaker 3: challenging matchup, but you know, he was completely neutralized. And

1885
01:27:52,000 --> 01:27:55,040
Speaker 3: not to suggest that that wasn't all al Jo's doing,

1886
01:27:55,160 --> 01:27:56,720
Speaker 3: but I don't know. I kind of felt bad for

1887
01:27:56,840 --> 01:27:59,160
Speaker 3: Kal on this night, a huge showcase for the sport,

1888
01:27:59,200 --> 01:28:02,519
Speaker 3: and for whatever reason, you know, Tyson Chardier, our friend,

1889
01:28:02,520 --> 01:28:03,479
Speaker 3: couldn't get him going.

1890
01:28:05,040 --> 01:28:06,200
Speaker 1: Here on Mute Love You though.

1891
01:28:07,280 --> 01:28:10,080
Speaker 4: Gosh, yeah, it seemed like, you know, there was an

1892
01:28:10,160 --> 01:28:14,360
Speaker 4: issue with his ability to get his striking going, and

1893
01:28:14,520 --> 01:28:16,040
Speaker 4: I think it was kind of twofold.

1894
01:28:16,120 --> 01:28:16,479
Speaker 2: It was the.

1895
01:28:16,600 --> 01:28:20,479
Speaker 4: Unorthodox approach from Al Jermaine Sterling, and also I think it.

1896
01:28:20,560 --> 01:28:22,000
Speaker 1: Was the threat of the takedowns.

1897
01:28:22,040 --> 01:28:26,160
Speaker 4: It seemed to freeze up his striking, and I don't

1898
01:28:26,200 --> 01:28:28,120
Speaker 4: know in some of those exchanges, like when he was

1899
01:28:28,200 --> 01:28:30,400
Speaker 4: up against the cage, you like to see a certain

1900
01:28:30,479 --> 01:28:33,519
Speaker 4: level of composure, but you also want to see a

1901
01:28:33,640 --> 01:28:37,760
Speaker 4: certain level of competitiveness, and I'm not sure there was

1902
01:28:37,880 --> 01:28:41,479
Speaker 4: that sense of urgency out of Cater that you'd see

1903
01:28:41,520 --> 01:28:44,959
Speaker 4: in other fights like and perhaps that was maybe.

1904
01:28:44,880 --> 01:28:47,880
Speaker 1: His lack of willingness to fight. I'm not sure I

1905
01:28:47,960 --> 01:28:48,840
Speaker 1: want to go that far.

1906
01:28:48,920 --> 01:28:52,600
Speaker 4: I don't know him well enough, but seemed like in

1907
01:28:52,840 --> 01:28:57,519
Speaker 4: other fights he's had that energy and it just wasn't

1908
01:28:57,600 --> 01:29:00,360
Speaker 4: there against al Joe. Now, certainly Aljie's what a great

1909
01:29:00,400 --> 01:29:02,600
Speaker 4: job of controlling him, especially up against the cage, on

1910
01:29:02,680 --> 01:29:05,720
Speaker 4: the floor, all that stuff, But I don't know. It

1911
01:29:05,880 --> 01:29:08,880
Speaker 4: definitely lacked a sense of urgency I think that you

1912
01:29:09,080 --> 01:29:11,240
Speaker 4: normally see from Calvucator.

1913
01:29:10,960 --> 01:29:14,320
Speaker 3: And not so Moikano over Jalen Turner by TKO the

1914
01:29:14,400 --> 01:29:17,800
Speaker 3: incomes at four eleven of round two. Not sure if

1915
01:29:17,880 --> 01:29:22,559
Speaker 3: Jalen Turner was chasing a potential three hundred thousand dollars bonus,

1916
01:29:22,680 --> 01:29:25,200
Speaker 3: which he might have had a better chance to attain

1917
01:29:25,360 --> 01:29:28,960
Speaker 3: with a walkoff style KO. But the next thing you know,

1918
01:29:29,080 --> 01:29:31,400
Speaker 3: he was on the wrong side of it, and Moykana

1919
01:29:31,479 --> 01:29:32,760
Speaker 3: is the guy who deserves a lot of credit.

1920
01:29:32,880 --> 01:29:33,080
Speaker 1: Kenny.

1921
01:29:33,120 --> 01:29:36,080
Speaker 3: I love watching him grapple and get the fight where

1922
01:29:36,160 --> 01:29:38,960
Speaker 3: he wants to get it. And obviously he was able

1923
01:29:39,000 --> 01:29:40,720
Speaker 3: to take Jalen Turner out from there. What do you

1924
01:29:40,800 --> 01:29:43,639
Speaker 3: make of mo Kano rallying, you know for a victory

1925
01:29:43,720 --> 01:29:45,040
Speaker 3: here and a huge spot of lightweight.

1926
01:29:45,520 --> 01:29:52,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, Now, Turner's inexperience is maybe his mental competitive competitive awareness.

1927
01:29:52,680 --> 01:29:54,040
Speaker 1: May have lost him this fight.

1928
01:29:55,040 --> 01:29:57,720
Speaker 4: He had moy Kano hurt at a certain point, and

1929
01:29:57,840 --> 01:30:00,240
Speaker 4: you know, you were talking about me following up. You know,

1930
01:30:00,400 --> 01:30:03,280
Speaker 4: maybe if the person's hurt, I don't do that necessarily

1931
01:30:03,360 --> 01:30:05,240
Speaker 4: to be mean, but I do it to make sure

1932
01:30:05,280 --> 01:30:08,200
Speaker 4: I get the result that I want. If you hesitate

1933
01:30:08,400 --> 01:30:11,639
Speaker 4: during a fight, then man, you could be in trouble.

1934
01:30:11,720 --> 01:30:15,040
Speaker 4: That one second window, which may even be smaller in

1935
01:30:15,120 --> 01:30:18,080
Speaker 4: mixed martial arts, can be taken away from you if

1936
01:30:18,120 --> 01:30:21,880
Speaker 4: you're not applying the pressure on. These are the toughest

1937
01:30:21,920 --> 01:30:25,320
Speaker 4: individuals in the world. If you see a spot, you

1938
01:30:25,400 --> 01:30:29,720
Speaker 4: got to take him out. And Jalen Turner allowed Moikano

1939
01:30:29,960 --> 01:30:32,880
Speaker 4: back into this fight because maybe he felt that the

1940
01:30:33,000 --> 01:30:34,559
Speaker 4: referee should step in there.

1941
01:30:34,720 --> 01:30:36,960
Speaker 1: You're not a referee, You're a fighter. You fight.

1942
01:30:37,360 --> 01:30:40,040
Speaker 4: You don't let the referee go in there and try

1943
01:30:40,080 --> 01:30:42,160
Speaker 4: to dictate what happens. You have to follow up and

1944
01:30:42,200 --> 01:30:44,320
Speaker 4: try to take that guy out. And when someone is

1945
01:30:44,439 --> 01:30:47,280
Speaker 4: very tough like Moikano and dangerous and knows how to

1946
01:30:47,360 --> 01:30:50,160
Speaker 4: time his takedown, he was able to battle back. He

1947
01:30:50,280 --> 01:30:53,040
Speaker 4: put Turner on his back. He cooked him in round

1948
01:30:53,160 --> 01:30:56,439
Speaker 4: one and in the second round was able to really

1949
01:30:56,560 --> 01:30:59,519
Speaker 4: take advantage. Turner was pretty much exhausted, didn't know what

1950
01:30:59,640 --> 01:31:03,160
Speaker 4: to do, was overwhelmed. He found that opportunity to take

1951
01:31:03,240 --> 01:31:05,400
Speaker 4: him out with ground and pound, and he did just that.

1952
01:31:05,680 --> 01:31:08,840
Speaker 4: Jalen Turner has a lot of talent, but you have

1953
01:31:09,040 --> 01:31:10,800
Speaker 4: to be better with the decisions that you make in

1954
01:31:10,840 --> 01:31:11,240
Speaker 4: the UFC.

1955
01:31:11,360 --> 01:31:12,000
Speaker 1: Those things matter.

1956
01:31:13,280 --> 01:31:15,400
Speaker 3: And on a night on which both Uri pro Hoska

1957
01:31:15,479 --> 01:31:18,599
Speaker 3: and Max Holloway asked for an appearance on The Joe

1958
01:31:18,680 --> 01:31:20,400
Speaker 3: Rogan Experience, I thought it was great to see hit

1959
01:31:20,439 --> 01:31:23,240
Speaker 3: out to Moikano say that Joe Rogan was going to

1960
01:31:23,280 --> 01:31:26,400
Speaker 3: be his podcast guest today. So hopefully that comes to fruition.

1961
01:31:27,360 --> 01:31:28,960
Speaker 3: But it's going to be interesting to see what they

1962
01:31:29,040 --> 01:31:33,280
Speaker 3: do with Moikano, because there's just an undeniable electricity about him.

1963
01:31:33,280 --> 01:31:36,280
Speaker 3: I'm not sure I've ever enjoyed seeing a Brazilian speak

1964
01:31:36,360 --> 01:31:39,200
Speaker 3: English and work a microphone than this guy, Kenny.

1965
01:31:39,280 --> 01:31:40,760
Speaker 1: He really I don't know.

1966
01:31:40,920 --> 01:31:45,679
Speaker 3: He has multiple lines every post fight interview that really resonate.

1967
01:31:46,720 --> 01:31:50,719
Speaker 4: I can tell you he's extremely popular with the bitcoin community.

1968
01:31:50,840 --> 01:31:52,960
Speaker 4: Right now, I'll tell you that, you know, mentioning Austrian

1969
01:31:53,040 --> 01:31:56,479
Speaker 4: economics and mesas and all these things and property rights.

1970
01:31:56,520 --> 01:31:59,160
Speaker 4: I mean, so you know, just that whole community. They

1971
01:31:59,240 --> 01:32:02,040
Speaker 4: have a favorite Moikano, and there's a lot of bitcointers

1972
01:32:02,080 --> 01:32:04,880
Speaker 4: out there. They were just they couldn't believe what they

1973
01:32:04,920 --> 01:32:07,160
Speaker 4: were hearing in the post fight interview. But when you

1974
01:32:07,240 --> 01:32:09,640
Speaker 4: have a guy who has really changed the way he

1975
01:32:09,760 --> 01:32:12,679
Speaker 4: approaches the fight, you heard him that I cannot afford

1976
01:32:12,800 --> 01:32:13,320
Speaker 4: to lose.

1977
01:32:13,680 --> 01:32:16,080
Speaker 1: It means that I'm going to fight really smart.

1978
01:32:16,160 --> 01:32:16,280
Speaker 2: Now.

1979
01:32:16,479 --> 01:32:18,720
Speaker 4: I'm going to be exciting when I can, but I'm

1980
01:32:18,760 --> 01:32:20,840
Speaker 4: going to fight smart, get the wins that I need

1981
01:32:20,960 --> 01:32:23,120
Speaker 4: so I can elevate my career and maybe fight for

1982
01:32:23,200 --> 01:32:24,960
Speaker 4: the title at one point. But more than anything else,

1983
01:32:25,160 --> 01:32:27,160
Speaker 4: he's trying to make as much money as possible. That

1984
01:32:27,560 --> 01:32:30,640
Speaker 4: nickname is there for a reason. He's doing all the

1985
01:32:30,760 --> 01:32:34,439
Speaker 4: right things, and he beat a really tough and talented

1986
01:32:34,520 --> 01:32:37,880
Speaker 4: guy at Jalen Turner. What did you make of Bobby

1987
01:32:37,960 --> 01:32:42,400
Speaker 4: Green against Jim Miller. Jim Miller suggested that maybe Bobby

1988
01:32:42,479 --> 01:32:46,439
Speaker 4: Green has a style that doesn't age. Well, I don't

1989
01:32:46,479 --> 01:32:48,880
Speaker 4: know that Bobby Green has lost much of a step

1990
01:32:48,960 --> 01:32:51,360
Speaker 4: at all. And when you look at some of the

1991
01:32:51,479 --> 01:32:54,000
Speaker 4: challenges Kenny that he has taken on over the last

1992
01:32:54,000 --> 01:32:57,000
Speaker 4: several years, whether it's Islama Kashev on short notice or

1993
01:32:57,280 --> 01:32:59,760
Speaker 4: Grant Dawson when he was undefeated in the main event,

1994
01:33:00,960 --> 01:33:03,719
Speaker 4: just wicked and pressed with the career revolution for Bobby Green,

1995
01:33:03,800 --> 01:33:08,360
Speaker 4: the sustainability right and now realizing financial success at this

1996
01:33:08,400 --> 01:33:10,400
Speaker 4: stage of his career and you know, taking care of

1997
01:33:10,479 --> 01:33:13,439
Speaker 4: business like that and battering Jim Miller thirty twenty five

1998
01:33:13,560 --> 01:33:15,559
Speaker 4: on one of the cards like it's a huge fucking

1999
01:33:15,600 --> 01:33:17,519
Speaker 4: win for the King. Well, I think he has a

2000
01:33:17,600 --> 01:33:19,760
Speaker 4: lot of gratitude, you know, for where he's at at

2001
01:33:19,800 --> 01:33:21,600
Speaker 4: this point in his career, the fact that he is

2002
01:33:21,720 --> 01:33:24,320
Speaker 4: able to make a lot of money now fighting in

2003
01:33:24,400 --> 01:33:28,320
Speaker 4: the UFC, being on these huge cards, and you know,

2004
01:33:28,439 --> 01:33:31,240
Speaker 4: he's kind of fighting without this pressure. He's just kind

2005
01:33:31,240 --> 01:33:34,400
Speaker 4: of enjoying himself. He's enjoying the fights. He's enjoying the

2006
01:33:34,439 --> 01:33:37,280
Speaker 4: fact that he gets to entertain people with what he

2007
01:33:37,479 --> 01:33:40,760
Speaker 4: does best. And I thought this was an excellent performance

2008
01:33:40,840 --> 01:33:44,400
Speaker 4: from him. You know, he had Jim Miller hurt many

2009
01:33:44,520 --> 01:33:47,880
Speaker 4: times during that fight. I think it's almost seemed like

2010
01:33:47,960 --> 01:33:49,800
Speaker 4: Jim Miller kind of ran out of his bag of

2011
01:33:49,920 --> 01:33:53,040
Speaker 4: tricks after round one, and Bobby Green understood what the

2012
01:33:53,120 --> 01:33:56,360
Speaker 4: assignment was after that and then really kind of unleashed

2013
01:33:56,400 --> 01:33:59,559
Speaker 4: hell on Jim Miller. The body kicks down the middle,

2014
01:34:00,280 --> 01:34:03,400
Speaker 4: the proper range. It never allowed Jim Miller to really

2015
01:34:03,880 --> 01:34:05,640
Speaker 4: do what he does best. We'll just get to the

2016
01:34:05,720 --> 01:34:08,840
Speaker 4: clinch and hit those takedowns. Bobby Green was keeping him

2017
01:34:08,920 --> 01:34:11,280
Speaker 4: on the outside, was able to see the takedowns coming,

2018
01:34:11,439 --> 01:34:13,880
Speaker 4: was able to stop the takedowns and beat up and

2019
01:34:14,040 --> 01:34:19,479
Speaker 4: battered Jim Miller. You know something impressive, all right.

2020
01:34:19,560 --> 01:34:22,880
Speaker 3: So last fight I want to touch on, and then

2021
01:34:22,920 --> 01:34:24,720
Speaker 3: I just want to talk some big picture you FC

2022
01:34:24,840 --> 01:34:26,920
Speaker 3: three hundred stuff. We'll get to Connor and Chandler and

2023
01:34:27,640 --> 01:34:30,000
Speaker 3: then we'll let you get back to childcare or whatever

2024
01:34:30,040 --> 01:34:31,479
Speaker 3: it is you do with the rest of your day.

2025
01:34:31,680 --> 01:34:34,880
Speaker 3: So Davison Figuretto beats Cody garbranp by rear naked choke.

2026
01:34:35,160 --> 01:34:37,519
Speaker 3: I guess I'm just curious, like, where you see Davison

2027
01:34:37,640 --> 01:34:39,720
Speaker 3: in this one hundred and thirty five pound division in

2028
01:34:39,760 --> 01:34:42,760
Speaker 3: which they're all chasing Sean O'Malley, because that sounds like

2029
01:34:42,800 --> 01:34:46,000
Speaker 3: a fun competitive fight, even though Davison's got to need

2030
01:34:46,040 --> 01:34:48,720
Speaker 3: a couple more wins. Like, what are your thoughts on

2031
01:34:49,280 --> 01:34:53,799
Speaker 3: Figuretto as a potential future two division champion, having twice

2032
01:34:53,880 --> 01:34:56,160
Speaker 3: already won the Flyway bell and now is sending it

2033
01:34:56,280 --> 01:34:58,519
Speaker 3: thirty five Rob font and now Cody Garbrant in the

2034
01:34:58,560 --> 01:34:59,160
Speaker 3: rearview mirror.

2035
01:34:59,439 --> 01:35:02,080
Speaker 4: Well, I think his position is secure as someone you

2036
01:35:02,200 --> 01:35:04,519
Speaker 4: want to watch because of the skills that he brings in,

2037
01:35:04,640 --> 01:35:07,559
Speaker 4: because of the pedigree, what he's accomplished in the division,

2038
01:35:07,960 --> 01:35:11,400
Speaker 4: and the fact that he's exciting to watch. You know,

2039
01:35:11,560 --> 01:35:14,160
Speaker 4: he's showing that he has multiple ways to win. He

2040
01:35:14,280 --> 01:35:17,320
Speaker 4: can switch things up, he can use strategy to win fights,

2041
01:35:17,360 --> 01:35:19,839
Speaker 4: and I think that was the difference here, the timing

2042
01:35:19,920 --> 01:35:23,200
Speaker 4: of his takedowns taking advantage of the opportunity on the

2043
01:35:23,280 --> 01:35:26,960
Speaker 4: ground against Cody Garbrandt, and Cody was looking pretty good

2044
01:35:27,080 --> 01:35:30,400
Speaker 4: early on, but I think the takedowns and specifically the

2045
01:35:30,600 --> 01:35:34,200
Speaker 4: threat of the takedowns, similar to maybe the Turner fight

2046
01:35:34,520 --> 01:35:38,240
Speaker 4: or the Cater fight. It tends to shut down your striking.

2047
01:35:38,320 --> 01:35:40,200
Speaker 4: If you don't have a lot of confidence with your

2048
01:35:40,280 --> 01:35:43,400
Speaker 4: takedown defense, it can shut down your striking, it to

2049
01:35:43,520 --> 01:35:46,479
Speaker 4: take you off rhythm. And I think that's what Davison

2050
01:35:46,560 --> 01:35:48,719
Speaker 4: started to do to Cody Garbrand. And we know about

2051
01:35:48,960 --> 01:35:52,640
Speaker 4: maybe some of the mental hiccups that Cody Garbrand can

2052
01:35:52,800 --> 01:35:57,280
Speaker 4: encounter during fights. You know, sometimes he loses some of

2053
01:35:57,360 --> 01:36:01,400
Speaker 4: that emotional stability during by to make some poor decisions.

2054
01:36:01,479 --> 01:36:05,160
Speaker 4: And you know, Davison had great timing on that entry,

2055
01:36:05,560 --> 01:36:08,160
Speaker 4: was able to take the back of Cody Garbren and

2056
01:36:08,280 --> 01:36:09,280
Speaker 4: ended up getting it done.

2057
01:36:09,360 --> 01:36:12,240
Speaker 1: And you know, Cody's vulnerability.

2058
01:36:11,600 --> 01:36:14,360
Speaker 4: Has been if he does end up in bad positions

2059
01:36:14,400 --> 01:36:16,200
Speaker 4: on the ground on his back, that's gonna, you know,

2060
01:36:16,360 --> 01:36:18,439
Speaker 4: be an effect on any fighter. It's gonna be tough

2061
01:36:18,479 --> 01:36:20,439
Speaker 4: for any fighter to deal with. But when you have

2062
01:36:20,600 --> 01:36:24,439
Speaker 4: someone as sharp and as experience as Davison figuredo who's

2063
01:36:24,520 --> 01:36:28,120
Speaker 4: been there with tough guys and five round fights, and

2064
01:36:28,280 --> 01:36:31,639
Speaker 4: the fact that he is very durable and pretty emotionally

2065
01:36:31,640 --> 01:36:33,639
Speaker 4: stable in the fights, I think that was the difference

2066
01:36:33,680 --> 01:36:35,680
Speaker 4: and it was a big, big win for him, and

2067
01:36:35,760 --> 01:36:38,519
Speaker 4: I expect him to do big things. Wouldn't be surprised

2068
01:36:38,600 --> 01:36:40,320
Speaker 4: to see him fight for the belt at some point,

2069
01:36:40,400 --> 01:36:42,240
Speaker 4: but there is a big line.

2070
01:36:42,400 --> 01:36:44,120
Speaker 1: Leading to that belt at one hundred and thirty five

2071
01:36:44,120 --> 01:36:44,960
Speaker 1: pounds right now, dude?

2072
01:36:45,080 --> 01:36:47,679
Speaker 3: All right, A few quick questions on UFC three hundred

2073
01:36:47,840 --> 01:36:51,679
Speaker 3: on the way out factor fiction. Joangwae Lee's next title

2074
01:36:51,720 --> 01:36:56,240
Speaker 3: defense will come against Tatiana Suarez, who has competed at

2075
01:36:56,320 --> 01:36:58,439
Speaker 3: flyweight but is now, of course back to one hundred

2076
01:36:58,439 --> 01:36:59,120
Speaker 3: and fifteen pounds.

2077
01:36:59,160 --> 01:37:02,280
Speaker 1: What do we think? I think that makes a lot

2078
01:37:02,320 --> 01:37:02,639
Speaker 1: of sense.

2079
01:37:02,800 --> 01:37:08,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, right, So, bon Nickel Khamzat Chimayev, right now, do

2080
01:37:08,240 --> 01:37:12,040
Speaker 3: you favor Kamzat Chimayev in a matchup with Bonickel giving

2081
01:37:12,080 --> 01:37:15,320
Speaker 3: the MMA experience dream matchup for a lot of fight fans,

2082
01:37:15,360 --> 01:37:16,719
Speaker 3: bon Nickel Kamzat Chimayev.

2083
01:37:16,840 --> 01:37:19,080
Speaker 1: But sitting here April fifteen, twenty twenty four, who do

2084
01:37:19,120 --> 01:37:19,320
Speaker 1: you like?

2085
01:37:20,400 --> 01:37:23,280
Speaker 4: I like the matchup for Bonickel based on skills, but

2086
01:37:23,520 --> 01:37:27,439
Speaker 4: right now because of experience, yeah, I'd be leaning towards

2087
01:37:27,520 --> 01:37:28,200
Speaker 4: Homzad right.

2088
01:37:28,160 --> 01:37:32,040
Speaker 3: Now in terms of ranking Max Holloway's knockout all time.

2089
01:37:33,160 --> 01:37:37,080
Speaker 3: Our good friend Joaquin Buckley NW Mansa against Impuk Hasangan.

2090
01:37:37,160 --> 01:37:40,639
Speaker 3: I aesthetically, I'm not sure you have a kneater knockout

2091
01:37:41,040 --> 01:37:44,719
Speaker 3: for me. I would put Edson Barbosa against Terry Edam. Actually,

2092
01:37:44,840 --> 01:37:48,479
Speaker 3: aesthetically a notch above that. I thought there was like

2093
01:37:48,600 --> 01:37:51,320
Speaker 3: some attack happening on that arena in Rio de Janeiro.

2094
01:37:51,600 --> 01:37:54,080
Speaker 3: But I do think this greatest knockout of all time. Conversation.

2095
01:37:54,200 --> 01:37:58,120
Speaker 3: Kenny oftentimes focuses on fights in which there are championship stakes.

2096
01:37:58,360 --> 01:38:00,160
Speaker 3: So I'm gonna give you three and you tell me

2097
01:38:00,200 --> 01:38:02,559
Speaker 3: which one does it for you. Leon Edwards against Kamara Usman.

2098
01:38:02,560 --> 01:38:06,679
Speaker 3: I'll give you four, Leon Edwards against Kamara Usman, Connor

2099
01:38:06,760 --> 01:38:08,280
Speaker 3: McGregor against Jose Aldo.

2100
01:38:09,560 --> 01:38:12,400
Speaker 1: Gosh, I could really open this thing up. No, I'll

2101
01:38:12,439 --> 01:38:14,160
Speaker 1: go Leon Edwards against Kamara.

2102
01:38:14,040 --> 01:38:16,679
Speaker 3: Usman, Connor MacGregor and against Jose Aldo, Anderson Silver against

2103
01:38:16,720 --> 01:38:19,240
Speaker 3: vtor Bell for Max Hollowy against Justin Llay against.

2104
01:38:22,600 --> 01:38:22,800
Speaker 1: Man.

2105
01:38:22,960 --> 01:38:26,240
Speaker 4: Out of all of those, I would probably be leaning

2106
01:38:26,400 --> 01:38:31,320
Speaker 4: towards the Connor McGregor knockout of Jose Aldo. Jose Aldo,

2107
01:38:31,439 --> 01:38:35,080
Speaker 4: at the time was easily recognized as the number one

2108
01:38:35,200 --> 01:38:39,080
Speaker 4: pound per pound fighter. On the planet, Connor knocked him

2109
01:38:39,080 --> 01:38:43,400
Speaker 4: out in about thirteen seconds. Everyone's jaw dropped the stakes.

2110
01:38:43,760 --> 01:38:46,519
Speaker 4: Everything Connor was saying to build up that fight and

2111
01:38:46,600 --> 01:38:49,240
Speaker 4: the fact that he was able to go out there

2112
01:38:49,920 --> 01:38:52,960
Speaker 4: and actually get it done in that fashion was something

2113
01:38:53,280 --> 01:38:58,240
Speaker 4: absolutely spectacular. John is just going back to his backup

2114
01:38:58,600 --> 01:39:01,240
Speaker 4: to get sound, but that was one of those moments

2115
01:39:01,280 --> 01:39:05,040
Speaker 4: I think a lot of people are never going to forget.

2116
01:39:06,400 --> 01:39:11,559
Speaker 1: However, the way it went down with Max Holloway.

2117
01:39:12,760 --> 01:39:16,040
Speaker 4: Really just putting on a clinic against Justin Gatchee and

2118
01:39:16,120 --> 01:39:19,360
Speaker 4: then ultimately getting that knockout by pointing at the canvas

2119
01:39:19,520 --> 01:39:22,080
Speaker 4: and trading with one of the most dangerous guys in

2120
01:39:22,200 --> 01:39:25,839
Speaker 4: that division and putting him out face first into the canvas.

2121
01:39:26,439 --> 01:39:29,639
Speaker 4: That is, without a doubt, top three, top five knockouts

2122
01:39:29,680 --> 01:39:30,479
Speaker 4: in UFC history.

2123
01:39:30,680 --> 01:39:31,559
Speaker 1: Just unreal.

2124
01:39:32,040 --> 01:39:34,720
Speaker 3: All right, So we're live right now. My studio just

2125
01:39:34,840 --> 01:39:37,680
Speaker 3: went down. We got the backup setup rolling. Can you

2126
01:39:37,720 --> 01:39:39,800
Speaker 3: hear me, Ken Flow, Yes, sir, I mean this is

2127
01:39:39,840 --> 01:39:42,360
Speaker 3: what we do. So today's show has been so enjoyable

2128
01:39:42,479 --> 01:39:45,479
Speaker 3: that I'm inclined to go live every Monday and Wednesday,

2129
01:39:45,520 --> 01:39:48,120
Speaker 3: which I think would be very exciting for our listenership

2130
01:39:48,160 --> 01:39:49,880
Speaker 3: to not have to wait for the show later in

2131
01:39:49,960 --> 01:39:52,400
Speaker 3: the day. But you know, sometimes when you got a

2132
01:39:52,560 --> 01:39:54,320
Speaker 3: brand new studio, you want to use it. But the

2133
01:39:54,360 --> 01:39:56,639
Speaker 3: fancy studio failed me. So we have the backup set

2134
01:39:56,680 --> 01:39:59,439
Speaker 3: up ready to go here live. All right, So last

2135
01:39:59,479 --> 01:40:04,160
Speaker 3: one from before we get to Connor and Chandler. In

2136
01:40:04,320 --> 01:40:08,200
Speaker 3: terms of you ranking UFC three hundred all time you

2137
01:40:08,360 --> 01:40:11,160
Speaker 3: were with me there on the ESPN set for MMA

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Speaker 3: Live at UFC one hundred, you have called a lot

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Speaker 3: of big events dating to UFC eighty three. For me,

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Speaker 3: I'm not sure that any event singularly would top UFC

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Speaker 3: two twenty nine, but UFC three hundred is close. We

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Speaker 3: were talking off the air is loamkashev An Alexander Volkowski

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Speaker 3: in Perth, Western Australia felt absolutely enormous. But and I

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Speaker 3: have actually a visual here UFC two seventeen right in

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Speaker 3: New York City, the night upon which three belts changed hands,

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Speaker 3: George san Pierre against Michael Bisbing Roseenam a Unis against

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Speaker 3: Yannie and J.

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Speaker 1: TJ.

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Speaker 3: Delshaw against Cody Garbritt. Some people might say UFC two

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Speaker 3: oh five. For me, it's either UFC three hundred UFC

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Speaker 3: two twenty nine. Where does this one rank all time

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Speaker 3: for you?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I would say overall, top to bottom, first fight

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Speaker 4: to the last fight, I would say probably the best

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Speaker 4: of all time.

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Speaker 1: But is it the best main card? Probably not. It's

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Speaker 1: up there, but as far as you know it being

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Speaker 1: the best.

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Speaker 4: Main card, probably not. Two twenty nine is one of

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Speaker 4: those that really stand out to me. But yeah, I

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Speaker 4: think that overall it really did deliver.

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 4: There was a lot of hype behind this. Every single

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Speaker 4: fighter fought their ass off and it was an amazing

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Speaker 4: and amazing.

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Speaker 3: Be all right, anakin floor in podcast poll question. Now

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Speaker 3: that we know the weight class one hundred and seventy pounds,

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Speaker 3: and we know the date for Michael Chandler versus Connor McGregor,

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Speaker 3: June twenty ninth, UFC three to h three, who wins

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Speaker 3: the fight? Connor McGregor's the betting favorite right now, Kenny

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Speaker 3: All be it slightly minus one twenty Michael Chandler the

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Speaker 3: even money underdog plus one hundred fifty seven percent of

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Speaker 3: respondents like the slight underdog Michael Chandler. I know you

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Speaker 3: were not expecting to be making a prediction on this

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Speaker 3: fight today, but I don't much care Connor McGregor Michael

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Speaker 3: Chandler June twenty ninth.

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Speaker 1: Who do you like?

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Speaker 4: I think Connor is the better fighter. I think he's

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Speaker 4: got or skills. I think he has more ways to

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Speaker 4: win than Michael Chandler does. However, you know, Connor McGregor

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Speaker 4: has so much going on. How much energy has he

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Speaker 4: put into training for this?

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Speaker 1: I don't know. It's hard to tell.

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Speaker 4: I mean, what am I going off with social media

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Speaker 4: and all this stuff like it, It's hard to really know.

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Speaker 4: But right now, and maybe be leaning towards Chandler, but

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Speaker 4: I want to see more. I want to see footage.

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Speaker 4: I want to see that Connor is focused training. I

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Speaker 4: want to see him saying the right things.

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Speaker 1: You know what.

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Speaker 4: Chandler is going to show up, you know, and sometimes

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Speaker 4: he brings too much chaos and recklessness into the octagon,

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Speaker 4: but you know he's going to train hard and be ready.

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Speaker 4: So with Connor, I'm not so sure. But skill wise, man,

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Speaker 4: he is so talented. But I'm excited for that fight. Man,

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Speaker 4: that's gonna be That's gonna be pretty special as well.

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Speaker 3: And then Islam Makashev in defense of his title against

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Speaker 3: Dustin Poorier at UFC three to zero two. I think

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Speaker 3: an interesting time for Poorier with confidence riding so very

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Speaker 3: high to be getting this Islami Kashev fight. The Gatesy result,

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Speaker 3: of course, was good for Poorier's case. What do you

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Speaker 3: make of Dustin's chances here against the thus far nearly

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Speaker 3: perfect islamikashe It's going.

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Speaker 4: To be extremely difficult for him to beat mahas hif

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Speaker 4: you know, again, just based on his last fight against

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Speaker 4: another grappler, no question for me that he'll be the

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Speaker 4: more dangerous guy in the feat. You know, if someone

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Speaker 4: gets the knockout, perhaps it's Dustin Pori against islamihas Schef,

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Speaker 4: and Islam has definitely been improving his striking skills. I

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Speaker 4: like it there, But Islam is going to have the

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Speaker 4: ability to take this fight where he wants Where does

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Speaker 4: he want it?

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Speaker 1: On the ground.

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Speaker 4: That's where he's going to take advantage of, be able

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Speaker 4: to move and outposition Poorier perhaps for eventual TKO or submission.

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Speaker 1: So I like Mahashev's chances as of right now.

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Speaker 3: All right, thank you all for indulging us for this

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Speaker 3: extended live UFC three hundred recap. I did just want

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Speaker 3: to say in closing at this live event, we acknowledged

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Speaker 3: Chail Sunnen and Anderson Silva, their fight from two thousand

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Speaker 3: and two for the middleweight title, will be inducted into

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Speaker 3: the UFC Hall of Fame as part of our induction

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Speaker 3: class of twenty twenty four. So Silva versus son and

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Speaker 3: one going into the UFC Hall of Fame. And I

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Speaker 3: just want to say, as somebody who has hosted this

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Speaker 3: UFC Hall of Fame induction ceremony for a long time,

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Speaker 3: we use these wings as conduits to get certain people

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Speaker 3: into the Hall of Fame. Not to suggest that our

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Speaker 3: Hall of Fame is perfect, right, but Chail son and

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Speaker 3: has been a major contributor to mixed martial arts and

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Speaker 3: I'm really happy for him to get this type of acknowledgment.

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Speaker 3: He has brought a ton to the sport. He nearly

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Speaker 3: realized the world championship at middleweight that he so badly

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Speaker 3: wanted to produce for his late father. He was unable

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Speaker 3: to do that, but he's continued to deliver, you know,

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Speaker 3: as my colleague on the TV side, and I just

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Speaker 3: think he's brought a lot.

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Speaker 1: Of eyeballs to mixed martial arts.

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Speaker 3: So you know, even though he was absolutely filthy, maybe

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Speaker 3: the night upon which he fought my good friend Brian Stan.

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Speaker 3: You know, I hope Chaale will understand that. You know,

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Speaker 3: this fight wing is used as a conduit to get

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Speaker 3: deserving people into the Hall of Fame, and I hope

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Speaker 3: that chill Son and will in that consider himself a

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Speaker 3: UFC Hall of Famer. All right, we got to get

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Speaker 3: Thank you all for watching, for listening until next week.

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Speaker 3: Don't text and drive, You'll fuckingly.

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Speaker 1: Thank He's gonna roll. He's a lot tres me the

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Speaker 1: soul to the breath. He's gone bread.

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Speaker 2: He's gone bread. Lay be suppressious to the mess that

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Speaker 2: you can keep your hands on the box the open.

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Speaker 1: He's gone red.

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Speaker 2: He's gone red. He's going