WEBVTT - Set 2: Closed Parentheses (w/PFT) 0:00:21.400 --> 0:00:24.079 He's got the biggest show going. They've got the biggest 0:00:24.120 --> 0:00:26.319 show going. Part of my take, and now they have 0:00:26.360 --> 0:00:29.960 a book app and pf T PFT commentator is with 0:00:30.080 --> 0:00:32.560 us right now to talk about the book. Part in 0:00:32.640 --> 0:00:36.760 my book, it's a New York Times bestseller. Congratulations to 0:00:36.800 --> 0:00:38.920 you man, Welcome to the to the Authors Club. 0:00:39.159 --> 0:00:39.800 I'm proud of you. 0:00:40.479 --> 0:00:44.360 Thank you for such a humble welcoming stew You might 0:00:44.400 --> 0:00:46.720 have just jinxed us though, because we're not we're not 0:00:46.800 --> 0:00:48.440 New York Times bestsellers. 0:00:48.760 --> 0:00:50.800 Oh I think you are, Yes, I do. I think 0:00:50.840 --> 0:00:52.680 you're fifth right now. I think you're going to be 0:00:52.840 --> 0:00:54.920 a New York Times bestseller. I was just I was 0:00:55.000 --> 0:00:56.120 kind of predicting it for you. 0:00:56.120 --> 0:00:58.840 You know, you're crowning us. You're crowning us beforehand. Knock 0:00:58.880 --> 0:01:01.640 on wood. If we don't make it, I'm I'm holding 0:01:01.640 --> 0:01:02.760 you personally responsible. 0:01:02.760 --> 0:01:04.319 Well, why would you do that? I mean, what do 0:01:04.400 --> 0:01:06.120 I have to do with it. I'm sitting here promoting 0:01:06.120 --> 0:01:08.040 your book. I'm gonna make it happen for you. Right now. 0:01:08.080 --> 0:01:10.400 I'm going to put you on the New York Times bestseller. 0:01:10.920 --> 0:01:12.880 It's either this show or the one you're doing later 0:01:12.959 --> 0:01:14.080 in Rowan Oake Virginia. 0:01:14.200 --> 0:01:17.000 I mean, come on, the stew bump, this is this 0:01:17.040 --> 0:01:20.399 is going to push us over the top. I appreciate that, 0:01:20.440 --> 0:01:24.000 Thank you, Stu. It's you know, writing a book, it's 0:01:24.040 --> 0:01:26.360 a lot harder than reading a book. And I say 0:01:26.360 --> 0:01:27.959 that as somebody that doesn't read a lot of books. 0:01:27.959 --> 0:01:32.080 But we included a lot of pictures, and you know, 0:01:32.120 --> 0:01:34.279 there's a little something for everybody in there. My favorite 0:01:34.319 --> 0:01:36.080 is people are going through right now and looking at 0:01:36.200 --> 0:01:39.680 you know, some of the maybe the minor misspellings, maybe 0:01:39.680 --> 0:01:43.839 some graphical layerors, some intentional, some otherwise. And someone pointed 0:01:43.840 --> 0:01:45.839 out that I think it's like page nine, we open 0:01:45.920 --> 0:01:50.840 up a parentheses and we never close that parenthesis. So 0:01:50.960 --> 0:01:55.960 if you've got OCD, this might like really really trigger you. 0:01:56.640 --> 0:01:58.160 But I guess that means we're gonna have to write 0:01:58.160 --> 0:02:01.280 another book. Say we can eventually the parentheses because right now, 0:02:01.280 --> 0:02:04.120 this conversation we're having, yeah, this is still kind of 0:02:04.160 --> 0:02:05.200 part of the parentheses. 0:02:06.280 --> 0:02:08.440 Telling is more important than spelling. We all know that 0:02:08.560 --> 0:02:09.920 right in the book world, Yes. 0:02:09.960 --> 0:02:11.800 Yeah, you're damn right. 0:02:12.639 --> 0:02:14.360 Who came up with the name of the book, who 0:02:14.440 --> 0:02:15.240 came up with the title. 0:02:15.840 --> 0:02:18.400 That's a great question, Stu. Part of my book we 0:02:18.480 --> 0:02:20.800 racked our brains. It was one of those where we 0:02:20.800 --> 0:02:24.600 we came with probably like ten really terrible ideas and 0:02:24.639 --> 0:02:26.720 then we're like, let's just stick with part of my book. 0:02:28.840 --> 0:02:31.120 Let's not reinvent the wheel on this one where and 0:02:31.200 --> 0:02:33.760 Dave took cancel me if you can, that was gonna 0:02:33.760 --> 0:02:36.960 be ours, but Portnoy, Yeah, he scooped that from us. 0:02:37.360 --> 0:02:39.120 What were some of the bad options left on the 0:02:39.120 --> 0:02:39.919 cutting room floor? 0:02:39.960 --> 0:02:41.240 Do you remember? Do you have any? 0:02:42.080 --> 0:02:44.960 I think one that I suggested was, yeah, I bought 0:02:44.960 --> 0:02:45.960 this book not to Brad. 0:02:47.760 --> 0:02:48.400 That's pretty good. 0:02:48.400 --> 0:02:49.040 I gotta be hot. 0:02:49.120 --> 0:02:52.480 Yeah, And then like subtitle you could say, I'm a 0:02:52.480 --> 0:02:55.440 bit of a reader, you know, just like something that 0:02:55.480 --> 0:02:59.200 you can flex on. I forget what the other ones were, 0:02:59.200 --> 0:03:02.760 but none, you know, it's it's simple, and it's also 0:03:02.840 --> 0:03:04.880 very convenient that it's a lazy name for a book, 0:03:05.160 --> 0:03:06.800 but I think I think it's the right name for 0:03:06.840 --> 0:03:07.519 this book. Yeah. 0:03:08.160 --> 0:03:10.680 Part of my book ten Years of the Best and 0:03:10.760 --> 0:03:13.280 Worst in Sports from part of my take. I like 0:03:13.320 --> 0:03:14.880 what you did there with the ten years. So now 0:03:14.880 --> 0:03:17.079 you have a part too, right you mentioned that earlier. 0:03:17.320 --> 0:03:19.359 Now you can do the second half, right, that's why 0:03:19.400 --> 0:03:20.640 you did it, correct, Yeah, I mean we. 0:03:20.880 --> 0:03:22.880 Kind of set us up ourselves up for a sequel, 0:03:22.919 --> 0:03:26.400 but we're booked out at this point, right, Yes, you know, 0:03:26.600 --> 0:03:30.440 the last six months or so of actually putting pin 0:03:30.520 --> 0:03:33.120 to paper and doing the writing that was it was 0:03:33.120 --> 0:03:35.560 more work than we thought that it would be. So 0:03:35.600 --> 0:03:37.800 I think, you know, maybe another after ten years, maybe 0:03:37.800 --> 0:03:38.480 we'll do part two. 0:03:38.640 --> 0:03:40.520 So the problem with writing another book is you have 0:03:40.520 --> 0:03:42.160 to stay with Cats for another ten years. 0:03:42.240 --> 0:03:46.320 I mean, true, true, that's kind that's kind of part 0:03:46.320 --> 0:03:49.320 of the deal. Or we break up, we write each 0:03:49.360 --> 0:03:50.120 own book. 0:03:50.200 --> 0:03:51.040 Yes, that's what I did. 0:03:51.200 --> 0:03:54.200 Yes, yeah, yeah, and then when you get back together, 0:03:54.360 --> 0:03:57.120 then you can write that book again. And life is 0:03:57.200 --> 0:04:00.480 just a never ending series of like promoting and creating 0:04:00.520 --> 0:04:01.680 content for your next book. 0:04:02.320 --> 0:04:05.040 How was the process of writing the book? It's tough, right, 0:04:05.080 --> 0:04:07.560 it was difficult, I imagine, Yeah. 0:04:07.400 --> 0:04:10.160 I mean, it's uh, it actually was. We thought that 0:04:10.200 --> 0:04:12.720 we had it all figured out. We thought we outsmarted 0:04:12.760 --> 0:04:16.520 the world, and we hired a ghostwriter and he came 0:04:16.560 --> 0:04:18.800 in and we record a bunch of interviews with him. 0:04:19.080 --> 0:04:21.279 We sat down, I think we scheduled out like two 0:04:21.320 --> 0:04:25.120 hours every Friday for like a month or two. We 0:04:25.160 --> 0:04:27.520 would sit down and have a conversation talking through like 0:04:27.520 --> 0:04:30.200 the most important times and the craziest moments in the 0:04:30.200 --> 0:04:33.560 show's history. And then our ghostwriter, Matt would go away 0:04:33.600 --> 0:04:36.120 and he'd write something and then bring it back. And 0:04:36.640 --> 0:04:39.680 he's a great guy, great writer. He did also all 0:04:39.720 --> 0:04:42.880 the interviews. The smartest thing that we did in this 0:04:42.960 --> 0:04:46.120 book was we had people that were guests on our 0:04:46.160 --> 0:04:49.000 show come in and write a chapter for our book, right, 0:04:49.160 --> 0:04:51.080 and so like that's that takes care of like a 0:04:51.160 --> 0:04:51.599 quarter of it. 0:04:51.640 --> 0:04:56.400 Anyways, Yeah, I've never heard of that concept before. I mean, jeez, you. 0:04:58.480 --> 0:05:01.679 Understand the art of the fin yes, right, yes, and 0:05:01.800 --> 0:05:04.000 uh and and that those parts turned out great. But 0:05:04.040 --> 0:05:06.200 then we read the parts that Matt wrote in our voice, 0:05:06.240 --> 0:05:08.359 and like we were very naive to think that a 0:05:08.360 --> 0:05:12.599 ghostwriter could fully adapt our voice just from you know, 0:05:12.960 --> 0:05:15.720 a few weeks hanging out with us. And he did 0:05:15.720 --> 0:05:18.680 a great job in setting up like all the chapters 0:05:18.720 --> 0:05:20.600 and the outlines and the interviews that he did with 0:05:21.360 --> 0:05:23.360 the different athletes and personalities that we had write their 0:05:23.360 --> 0:05:25.560 own chapter. But when it came to our voice telling 0:05:25.600 --> 0:05:28.000 the story of you know, some of the historical parts 0:05:28.000 --> 0:05:30.920 of our pod. We read it and we thought, our 0:05:30.920 --> 0:05:32.720 listeners are gonna see this and they're gonna know that 0:05:32.760 --> 0:05:35.320 it's not actually all work yes, and that that kind 0:05:35.320 --> 0:05:38.320 of sucks, and we don't want that. So we we said, Matt, 0:05:38.360 --> 0:05:40.200 you did a great job. We appreciate everything. We're gonna 0:05:40.200 --> 0:05:43.400 go back. We're gonna use your outline and some of 0:05:43.440 --> 0:05:45.719 the you know, facts that you've you've written down for 0:05:45.800 --> 0:05:47.880 us here to kind of like keep us in line, 0:05:48.400 --> 0:05:50.360 but we're gonna do some of that heavy lifting on 0:05:50.400 --> 0:05:52.640 our own. So then that was like a two three 0:05:52.680 --> 0:05:54.800 week mad dash where it felt like we were in 0:05:54.839 --> 0:05:57.640 college all over again. Just we had deadlines and stuff 0:05:57.640 --> 0:06:00.919 and and and uh shout out to Dom Big Cat's 0:06:00.920 --> 0:06:05.080 assistant who really kind of spearheaded turning that outline and 0:06:05.120 --> 0:06:07.720 like keeping us honest with like turning in assignments and stuff, 0:06:07.920 --> 0:06:10.599 because without that never would have happened. But at the 0:06:10.640 --> 0:06:12.240 end of the day, we have a book that we're 0:06:12.240 --> 0:06:15.240 proud of that we feel like conveys our voice and 0:06:15.520 --> 0:06:18.600 our thoughts accurately. So it was a labor of love 0:06:19.000 --> 0:06:20.800 and I don't want to do it again for another 0:06:20.800 --> 0:06:21.280 ten years. 0:06:22.120 --> 0:06:23.880 The show is so great, and you guys have worked 0:06:23.880 --> 0:06:25.240 so hard to build this show. 0:06:25.880 --> 0:06:28.240 Was it fun? Was it gratifying to relive the first 0:06:28.240 --> 0:06:29.120 ten years? It had to be? 0:06:29.240 --> 0:06:32.080 Right, Yeah, I don't know about you and how you 0:06:32.160 --> 0:06:35.560 kind of like look back on anything that you accomplished 0:06:35.640 --> 0:06:38.880 or like major moments that happened in your life. But 0:06:38.920 --> 0:06:42.960 we don't really We're not really like celebration guys, so 0:06:43.000 --> 0:06:45.640 we don't take that much time to think about something 0:06:45.680 --> 0:06:48.039 that we've done, or like a cool moment that we 0:06:48.120 --> 0:06:51.960 had as a podcast, or like different milestones that we've hit. 0:06:52.000 --> 0:06:53.440 So this is really the first. 0:06:53.200 --> 0:06:55.560 Time that we've sat down and gone through some of 0:06:55.600 --> 0:06:58.680 those major moments in the podcast, and it did. It 0:06:58.720 --> 0:07:00.800 was like a little bit emotional. It did bring out 0:07:00.839 --> 0:07:03.520 some feelings that I haven't thought that I haven't felt, 0:07:03.520 --> 0:07:06.080 I haven't thought about in years, and going through some 0:07:06.080 --> 0:07:08.320 of the old pictures that Hank put in there that 0:07:08.360 --> 0:07:11.040 I haven't seen were it was really cool. And so 0:07:11.400 --> 0:07:13.280 I think it was you know, I hope people really 0:07:13.360 --> 0:07:15.000 enjoy it. I hope they get a lot out of it. 0:07:15.520 --> 0:07:18.080 And also at the same time, like I got a 0:07:18.120 --> 0:07:20.760 lot out of writing it and out of reading what 0:07:20.920 --> 0:07:23.760 Big Cat and Hank and Zach and Max what they 0:07:23.760 --> 0:07:26.440 all contributed as well. Zach might be a star, by 0:07:26.440 --> 0:07:29.120 the way, he might be. If there's an author amongst us, 0:07:29.640 --> 0:07:31.640 it might be Zach. His chapter on ice. 0:07:31.480 --> 0:07:32.920 Cream STU it is. 0:07:33.040 --> 0:07:36.880 It is unbelievable. I move over hardcore history because like 0:07:37.240 --> 0:07:39.640 the history of ice cream through the eyes of Zach 0:07:39.720 --> 0:07:47.120 Cornelius is absolutely incredible. He he we told him not 0:07:47.160 --> 0:07:52.960 to edit anything that Zach wrote. He spelled hogendas h O, 0:07:53.120 --> 0:07:58.800 G and sign da Z like Ben and Jerry's. He 0:07:58.840 --> 0:08:01.679 thinks that every ice stream companies like Ben and Jerry's, Wod's, 0:08:01.680 --> 0:08:04.920 two Guys, Right. 0:08:07.120 --> 0:08:08.240 Basket and Robins. 0:08:08.440 --> 0:08:09.640 I mean, yeah, exactly. 0:08:10.320 --> 0:08:12.600 So it was it was cool get to read those 0:08:12.600 --> 0:08:15.040 guys chapters as well. And Memes tried to what his 0:08:15.160 --> 0:08:16.880 chapter I think was like how to fix the Jets? 0:08:17.360 --> 0:08:20.320 And I believe yes, I think. 0:08:20.160 --> 0:08:22.160 That guy like in the time in between when we 0:08:22.200 --> 0:08:24.720 sent the book to be published and uh and when 0:08:24.760 --> 0:08:27.880 it came out, like four things happened that now make 0:08:28.560 --> 0:08:30.680 Memes his theey on how to fix the jets completely? 0:08:31.920 --> 0:08:32.840 They can't be fixed. 0:08:33.200 --> 0:08:35.280 Who's the celebrity that you tried to get to write 0:08:35.280 --> 0:08:39.240 a chapter that you couldn't get Oh that's. 0:08:39.000 --> 0:08:39.680 A good question. 0:08:41.160 --> 0:08:43.440 I don't know who who we reached out to that 0:08:43.920 --> 0:08:45.000 might have said no. 0:08:45.120 --> 0:08:46.199 For me, it was Wilbond. 0:08:46.360 --> 0:08:49.240 I mean, oh really you asked him. He said no, 0:08:49.320 --> 0:08:50.000 he's a busy man. 0:08:50.040 --> 0:08:52.280 I asked him right the forward, Dan got offended. Will 0:08:52.360 --> 0:08:54.240 Bond said no, and then they had to go with Lebantard. 0:08:54.280 --> 0:08:54.720 I mean. 0:08:56.640 --> 0:08:57.600 So we actually we. 0:08:57.600 --> 0:09:01.120 Just had seth Wickersham in the studio today and he 0:09:01.280 --> 0:09:03.000 told us the story about how he was working at 0:09:03.000 --> 0:09:04.800 the Washington Post as an intern back in the day 0:09:05.080 --> 0:09:08.240 and Mike Wilbons his license plate was press box. 0:09:09.120 --> 0:09:11.000 How classy is that? How cool is that? 0:09:11.160 --> 0:09:11.360 Right? 0:09:11.400 --> 0:09:13.000 Amazing Jay's stuff? 0:09:13.760 --> 0:09:17.440 Yeah, car, he doesn't. 0:09:18.679 --> 0:09:21.240 He where's that cubs though? I can tell you that much. 0:09:21.760 --> 0:09:23.200 Yeah, that'll set some people off. 0:09:23.280 --> 0:09:25.960 Yeah. Yeah, you have to have a lanyard on to 0:09:26.000 --> 0:09:27.280 get into the back seat of that thing. 0:09:27.480 --> 0:09:27.840 I'm trying. 0:09:27.920 --> 0:09:29.240 I'm looking at the cover right now. I'm trying to 0:09:29.240 --> 0:09:32.920 see if we asked anybody. I think we asked. We 0:09:33.000 --> 0:09:36.640 might have asked Harbaugh to write a chapter and he 0:09:36.760 --> 0:09:39.480 might have just not gotten back. Oh, Josh Allen, I 0:09:39.520 --> 0:09:43.760 don't think now I might embarrass myself here because Josh 0:09:43.880 --> 0:09:44.800 might have wrote a chapter. 0:09:44.880 --> 0:09:47.720 It'd be if he has a chapter in the book. 0:09:48.559 --> 0:09:50.679 I made that mistake, by the way, promoting the book. 0:09:52.120 --> 0:09:53.640 It was last minute. It was last minute. 0:09:53.640 --> 0:09:57.120 So Josh was tough to get in touch with because yeah, 0:09:57.120 --> 0:09:59.520 we finally got him, so he did. He did do 0:09:59.600 --> 0:10:01.160 the chapter at the end, so I would say him, 0:10:01.320 --> 0:10:03.760 he's probably oh, and so Jim harball at the last minute. 0:10:04.160 --> 0:10:04.920 They both said yes. 0:10:05.000 --> 0:10:06.960 So I guess we had a couple of last minute 0:10:07.160 --> 0:10:10.000 close calls where they said, yeah, we'll do it and 0:10:10.040 --> 0:10:11.440 then they just kind of put it off for a 0:10:11.440 --> 0:10:13.800 long time. Yes, but they finally came through. 0:10:13.920 --> 0:10:16.160 Wait, so both the guys that you gave me for 0:10:16.400 --> 0:10:19.440 most disappointed you could get him the writer chapter in 0:10:19.440 --> 0:10:21.920 the book. Both wrote a chapter in the book. God, 0:10:21.960 --> 0:10:22.800 I am proud of you. 0:10:23.360 --> 0:10:26.360 Yeah, i'd forgotten that they they finally made it happen. 0:10:26.360 --> 0:10:29.680 I mean, Josh's credit, he's had a really cool offseason. He's, 0:10:29.720 --> 0:10:33.480 you know, a happy man right now, newlywed, newlywed guy. 0:10:33.920 --> 0:10:36.840 Uh and so he's obviously gonna be busy the months 0:10:36.840 --> 0:10:40.240 in between February and training camp. But he did actually 0:10:40.280 --> 0:10:42.000 get back to us, so shout out to him. 0:10:42.040 --> 0:10:44.240 So the answer is no one, go ahead tell no one. 0:10:45.360 --> 0:10:48.600 Has the show kept is the show kept getting bigger 0:10:48.600 --> 0:10:51.160 and bigger? Who was the person that you've been most 0:10:51.200 --> 0:10:53.080 surprised to find out is a fan of part of 0:10:53.080 --> 0:10:53.440 my take? 0:10:54.320 --> 0:10:58.480 Ooh, okay, that's another that's another good question too. They're 0:10:58.920 --> 0:11:02.920 sometimes we get like musicians that hit us up and 0:11:02.960 --> 0:11:05.280 they're like, yeah, we listened to the show. So I 0:11:05.280 --> 0:11:09.240 would say, like on that lines, I think wile A 0:11:09.320 --> 0:11:09.760 is a fan. 0:11:10.040 --> 0:11:10.679 That was cool. 0:11:12.240 --> 0:11:15.959 The band uh, let's see the band Goose. They're all 0:11:16.000 --> 0:11:21.199 fans of the show. They were here in studio. There 0:11:21.360 --> 0:11:25.520 have been yeah, mount Joy, those guys are incredible. Dudes 0:11:25.720 --> 0:11:27.880 love them. I think there's a lot of musicians that 0:11:27.920 --> 0:11:30.920 you don't really think about, Like country singers have have 0:11:31.040 --> 0:11:32.480 hit us up and they be like, yeah, I listened. 0:11:32.559 --> 0:11:36.240 Like there'll be sometimes where like a new name will 0:11:36.280 --> 0:11:38.840 win an event on the PGA tour and I'll just 0:11:38.880 --> 0:11:41.520 like look at their Twitter bio and then it's like, oh, 0:11:41.520 --> 0:11:44.440 they follow me, Oh they ship they might listen to 0:11:44.480 --> 0:11:47.560 the show. Like that's kind of weird. I you know, 0:11:47.640 --> 0:11:49.640 one of the things that I had heard was was 0:11:49.679 --> 0:11:53.719 Bryson was a listener of the show and and he 0:11:53.760 --> 0:11:55.640 would like listen to us on the on the range, 0:11:56.080 --> 0:11:58.160 and then he may have stopped listening to the show 0:11:58.160 --> 0:12:01.760 because we we might have made a couple jokes when 0:12:01.760 --> 0:12:03.120 he tried to call and Ruse a fish a little 0:12:03.160 --> 0:12:06.640 b fire and ant one time. But actually I think 0:12:06.640 --> 0:12:08.959 the funniest one and it's not really part of my take, 0:12:09.000 --> 0:12:12.680 but just Barstool in general, Scotty Shuffler, So I don't 0:12:12.679 --> 0:12:15.600 think Scotty listens to part of my take. But he's 0:12:15.640 --> 0:12:19.080 a massive fan of Stu Finer, and so he listens 0:12:19.080 --> 0:12:23.120 and watches the Barstool Sports Advisors. Every Sunday he goes 0:12:23.160 --> 0:12:27.200 to church and then afterwards he watches Stu Finer just 0:12:27.280 --> 0:12:30.440 scream into the camera about God knows what and what 0:12:30.480 --> 0:12:33.120 bets he likes in the NFL games coming up. Yeah, 0:12:33.200 --> 0:12:35.800 And it's just so funny to think about Scotty like 0:12:35.840 --> 0:12:37.440 that's how he spends his Sunday mornings. 0:12:37.520 --> 0:12:45.319 Yes, church and yeah, yeah, a big two yeah, unbelievable PFD. 0:12:45.480 --> 0:12:47.719 When did you realize was there a moment for you? 0:12:47.800 --> 0:12:50.560 I remember doing it building the show with Dan, and 0:12:50.600 --> 0:12:52.880 there were a couple of moments where I remember, oh. 0:12:52.720 --> 0:12:54.199 Man, we made it, We made it big. 0:12:54.480 --> 0:12:56.640 Was there a moment for you and Big Kat where 0:12:56.640 --> 0:12:58.800 you realized, oh my god, we got something here. 0:12:58.840 --> 0:12:59.920 This is going to be a monster. 0:13:00.800 --> 0:13:03.280 I think when I got invited to participate in your 0:13:03.360 --> 0:13:05.400 live show in New York City, I think that was 0:13:05.960 --> 0:13:07.520 that was really cool, great moment. 0:13:07.920 --> 0:13:14.560 That's an awesome moment. Jesus, it was a great show. 0:13:14.600 --> 0:13:18.719 I think for us, it was probably pretty early on 0:13:19.760 --> 0:13:24.199 we didn't really expect the response to our first interview 0:13:24.280 --> 0:13:27.720 with Blake Griffin to be what it was, where all 0:13:27.720 --> 0:13:29.720 of a sudden, the small stories he was telling us 0:13:29.760 --> 0:13:33.400 were becoming, you know, stories in sports ilitary dot com 0:13:33.400 --> 0:13:35.959 and it was making news. We didn't expect that when 0:13:36.000 --> 0:13:39.120 we had Kyle Wiltscher on the show that he would 0:13:39.120 --> 0:13:42.200 talk about Adam Morrison's Apocalypse bunker and then that would 0:13:42.240 --> 0:13:45.240 become national news. But then we learned, okay, this is 0:13:45.240 --> 0:13:47.160 you know what you do when you have a controversy. 0:13:47.640 --> 0:13:49.360 Then now we have to have Adam Morrison on the 0:13:49.400 --> 0:13:52.760 show to get his side of the Apocalypse sports story. 0:13:52.320 --> 0:13:54.280 Yes, and that's how you do it. That's how he 0:13:54.360 --> 0:13:55.160 keeps the cycle going. 0:13:55.640 --> 0:13:57.599 And then at Adam Morrison came on the show, and 0:13:57.640 --> 0:14:00.840 he denied having an apocalypse bunker in a way that 0:14:00.960 --> 0:14:03.280 sure seemed he made it seem like he did have 0:14:03.360 --> 0:14:06.320 in the backclips bumper and he's like, it's not really 0:14:06.320 --> 0:14:10.600 a bunker. There's like only a few guns, and I 0:14:10.600 --> 0:14:14.000 don't even have that much canned food, but it's it 0:14:14.080 --> 0:14:17.960 seemed like it might be bunker adjacent. And then there 0:14:18.000 --> 0:14:20.720 was another moment. It's like a really small one. But 0:14:20.800 --> 0:14:23.440 we had a We had Ryan Whitney on the show, 0:14:23.880 --> 0:14:26.320 who's currently, you know, a podcast star of his own, 0:14:26.800 --> 0:14:29.240 but he was he wasn't at that point. He might 0:14:29.280 --> 0:14:32.400 have still been maybe just recently retired from the NHL. 0:14:32.840 --> 0:14:35.440 And he talked to us about how he would spend 0:14:35.440 --> 0:14:39.560 his summer breaks back in Situate, Massachusetts with Hank and 0:14:39.600 --> 0:14:41.720 he'd go to this one beach and he'd be gassing 0:14:41.800 --> 0:14:44.640 beers and chuck and nuts was the phrase that he 0:14:44.680 --> 0:14:46.200 gave us, And so we just put that on a 0:14:46.280 --> 0:14:49.360 T shirt. And I moved to New York because the 0:14:49.880 --> 0:14:52.200 whole company was moving to New York, and I went 0:14:52.200 --> 0:14:55.040 out to this wing place my first day there, and 0:14:55.080 --> 0:14:56.640 the waiter came up to me and he was wearing 0:14:56.640 --> 0:14:59.280 a gas and Beers and chuck and nuts shirt and 0:14:59.320 --> 0:15:00.880 that was a first place I went out in New 0:15:00.960 --> 0:15:03.120 York and I was like, wow, this does have like 0:15:03.200 --> 0:15:06.440 that's pretty incredible. And that was a moment where it's like, Okay, 0:15:06.440 --> 0:15:10.840 people are listening to me. As much as I try 0:15:10.880 --> 0:15:12.480 not to think about it, I don't know how you 0:15:12.520 --> 0:15:15.560 guys operate, but like, I don't like to think about 0:15:15.600 --> 0:15:18.520 the number of people that hear my takes. Like it's 0:15:18.600 --> 0:15:21.320 just a conversation kind of in this room, and then 0:15:21.480 --> 0:15:24.320 what happens after he gets out there. That's between you know, 0:15:24.440 --> 0:15:27.080 them and the Lord. But I can't think about that 0:15:27.120 --> 0:15:28.400 many people hearing me talk. 0:15:28.640 --> 0:15:30.960 I just imagine everyone's listening to my take. I mean, 0:15:31.000 --> 0:15:33.800 I have to be honest with you, so it's odd 0:15:33.800 --> 0:15:34.440 that you don't. 0:15:34.680 --> 0:15:35.640 But that's validating. 0:15:35.640 --> 0:15:37.840 When you see someone wearing a T shirt, it validates 0:15:37.840 --> 0:15:40.040 what it is you're doing, right, Yeah. 0:15:39.840 --> 0:15:41.960 And then it does so I felt like a big 0:15:42.000 --> 0:15:44.040 shot and I was like, man, look at us moving 0:15:44.040 --> 0:15:44.640 all this merch. 0:15:44.720 --> 0:15:46.800 That's pretty cool. I went back and looked at the numbers. 0:15:46.800 --> 0:15:49.320 I think we sold like seven shirts that said gas 0:15:49.320 --> 0:15:51.360 and beers and chucking ducks. It just happened to be 0:15:51.680 --> 0:15:52.800 this one guy had. 0:15:52.600 --> 0:16:05.400 One yes pft. 0:16:05.520 --> 0:16:10.120 Speaking of big shots ESPN the canceling Barstool Van Talk 0:16:10.160 --> 0:16:12.680 after one episode, it feels like that was almost a 0:16:12.680 --> 0:16:15.400 blessing in disguise, because do you think pardon my take 0:16:15.720 --> 0:16:17.640 becomes what it is today if you guys had to 0:16:17.960 --> 0:16:20.560 juggle that show and the podcast A good question? 0:16:20.680 --> 0:16:25.000 Yeah, yeah, I mean, I absolutely not. I think there 0:16:25.000 --> 0:16:27.800 were so many red flags in the days and months 0:16:28.120 --> 0:16:30.680 leading up to that show that we just we just 0:16:30.720 --> 0:16:33.360 blew right past them and we had, you know, the 0:16:33.440 --> 0:16:36.360 blinders on. We just wanted to be on TV. It's like, 0:16:36.400 --> 0:16:38.640 one day we'll be on ESPN. That's pretty cool. 0:16:38.760 --> 0:16:40.760 They weren't. They weren't gonna pay us. 0:16:41.040 --> 0:16:42.960 I think me and Big Kat we're gonna make something 0:16:43.040 --> 0:16:45.760 like I don't think we're gonna make any any money 0:16:45.800 --> 0:16:48.600 at all. I think Barstool was gonna make like fifteen 0:16:48.680 --> 0:16:52.760 thousand dollars off this first season, and all that money 0:16:52.840 --> 0:16:55.080 was going to go to hiring like an assistant producer 0:16:55.520 --> 0:16:59.080 for the show. So ESPN was going to get our 0:16:59.120 --> 0:17:01.960 TV show. We weren't going to get paid any money 0:17:01.960 --> 0:17:03.800 for it. We were going to have to work an 0:17:03.840 --> 0:17:07.639 additional forty hours a week probably on the show, and 0:17:07.720 --> 0:17:09.760 it would have been a disaster. We've been burnt out. 0:17:10.080 --> 0:17:11.800 The show probably wouldn't have been any good at all 0:17:11.840 --> 0:17:13.800 by the end of it because we're working all these 0:17:13.800 --> 0:17:17.880 different all these different gigs here. And Yeah, we learned 0:17:17.920 --> 0:17:20.439 a lot of lessons from that, and maybe the biggest 0:17:20.440 --> 0:17:24.120 one was just that just because people tell you something 0:17:24.160 --> 0:17:27.040 might be a good idea, you don't have to listen 0:17:27.040 --> 0:17:29.679 to people like people don't know they might. You might 0:17:29.760 --> 0:17:31.440 run into people in the business that think that they 0:17:31.480 --> 0:17:33.320 know what's best for you, but at the end of 0:17:33.359 --> 0:17:36.280 the day, they think they know what's best for them, yes, 0:17:36.359 --> 0:17:39.080 and you're just a piece in their own plan that 0:17:39.080 --> 0:17:41.240 they're trying to pull off. Yes, and uh. 0:17:42.920 --> 0:17:45.720 Them correct exactly exactly. 0:17:45.880 --> 0:17:48.880 So there are so many, so many warning flags going 0:17:48.920 --> 0:17:51.159 into that whole thing. And we told a bunch of 0:17:51.200 --> 0:17:54.400 stories that we haven't we haven't shared before, but one 0:17:54.400 --> 0:17:56.520 of them in the book was I took a meeting. 0:17:57.359 --> 0:18:00.439 Let's see, it was with uh So, the vice president 0:18:00.440 --> 0:18:02.440 that used to always be late coming into all the meetings. 0:18:03.760 --> 0:18:08.040 Was an interesting one. And then afterwards, as my contract 0:18:08.080 --> 0:18:10.040 is coming up, I took a meeting with the guy 0:18:10.040 --> 0:18:13.280 that would come to be known as Suitman from the 0:18:13.680 --> 0:18:16.359 Color Daddy Fiasco of twenty twenty. 0:18:16.440 --> 0:18:17.679 Yes, and this is right before that. 0:18:17.720 --> 0:18:20.280 And so he was trying to explain what he's at 0:18:20.440 --> 0:18:23.159 HBO and where I might fit into that equation and 0:18:23.200 --> 0:18:26.760 some ideas he had for my career and how barstool 0:18:26.800 --> 0:18:29.080