Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, podcasts, radio news. Now, your party has
Speaker 1: been very clear that you're willing to lead a government
Speaker 1: on your terms. You've put forward your own budget proposal.
Speaker 1: But why should Emmanuel Macroon pick somebody from the Socialist
Speaker 1: Party to be prime minister?
Speaker 2: Madel Macon needs stability, he needs He.
Speaker 3: Had another two years to run and I think he
Speaker 3: cannot afford to be changing his prime ministers every year.
Speaker 3: It's not good for the economy, it's not good for
Speaker 3: the country.
Speaker 2: We need visibility, we need stability.
Speaker 3: And given the results of the last elections, the Left
Speaker 3: came first, it should have been called to government, it wasn't,
Speaker 3: and now we have the situation that we're in. That
Speaker 3: is a government which cannot govern because it doesn't have
Speaker 3: a majority in the Assembly.
Speaker 1: Of course, the Left that won the election is in
Speaker 1: a lincients that's no longer in existence. The Far Left
Speaker 1: Party of France on Boud has has pulled apart from
Speaker 1: your party and the Greens in that alliance. So the
Speaker 1: numbers don't stack up in exactly the same way. But
Speaker 1: can your party build a working minority in parliament. You know,
Speaker 1: we've already heard doubts from the center right, layer of
Speaker 1: public any or traditional political rivals through modern French political history,
Speaker 1: who said that they won't participate in the government that's
Speaker 1: led by the Socialist Party. Could could the socials do
Speaker 1: any better when it came to the parliamentary arithmetic?
Speaker 3: And I think we have to draw the lessons from
Speaker 3: mister Bayohu's methods, which was to just decide on his
Speaker 3: own believe that he can go to the country by
Speaker 3: you know, being on television. I think he gave interviews
Speaker 3: to every single newspaper and TV channel and felt that,
Speaker 3: you know, the people might turn against you know, the
Speaker 3: members of parliament. But that's not the case. That was
Speaker 3: not the case.
Speaker 2: So I think we have to change drastically.
Speaker 3: We don't have a tradition of coalitions or compromise or
Speaker 3: but I mean, if we need now.
Speaker 2: A budget, which is absolutely essential, and in.
Speaker 3: The Senate we've been preparing for the past few months
Speaker 3: to discuss it because you know, because of the instability
Speaker 3: in the National Assembly. In fact, the Senate that has
Speaker 3: been doing the job for the past few years now
Speaker 3: doing the job of the Assembly and ourselves. So I mean,
Speaker 3: we cannot continue like that. So I think the Socialists
Speaker 3: as anybody would be called by the president.
Speaker 2: We'll have to seek compromises.
Speaker 3: I mean, we're looking then it's mathematics, you know, it's
Speaker 3: down to mathematics, and we're looking at every vote. Who
Speaker 3: in the central block rejected the government, who in the
Speaker 3: right rejected the government, and see that maybe the figures
Speaker 3: may add up to have that majority, that the that
Speaker 3: we absolutely need. Now.
Speaker 1: We spoke to the vice president of MADIF earlier on
Speaker 1: the program who said that a socialist government and the
Speaker 1: current current budget proposal would be a catastrophe. Is a
Speaker 1: socialist budget plan going to be bad for the French economy?
Speaker 3: Well, I was at the MEDIEV we know to last
Speaker 3: week and the MEDEV has also it's a tradition in
Speaker 3: France always been right wing, believed that only the right
Speaker 3: wing can lead the country. And then we see where
Speaker 3: the country, the state of the country today and the economy,
Speaker 3: and in fact, privately, when I speak to them and
Speaker 3: remind them of Fansolando indeed Frans terms, they agree that
Speaker 3: in fact, you know, the economy was balanced ASIL alone
Speaker 3: actually reduced the deficit of France drastically from five percent
Speaker 3: to but three percent in five years and it didn't
Speaker 3: run again, and that was that was it.
Speaker 1: But no, the.
Speaker 3: Socialists in power have a tradition of keeping the books
Speaker 3: really well.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 3: Of course, you know, the big industrial groups and so
Speaker 3: on do not are not left wing, none of them.
Speaker 2: And of course we'll have the kind of rejection, but.
Speaker 3: Individually they you know, they agree that you know, it
Speaker 3: could it could work.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 3: The one thing about the socialist program is that there
Speaker 3: will be a reintroduction of taxes on very high revenues,
Speaker 3: and of course they're not happy with that because it
Speaker 3: will just you know, individually.
Speaker 2: And personally touch them.
Speaker 3: So of course everybody's is happy to make the livings
Speaker 3: as long as others make them.
Speaker 1: I just want to ask you briefly on your foreign
Speaker 1: affairs brief as well. I mean, does those political instability
Speaker 1: harm France's possession on the international stage?
Speaker 2: But we can of course, I think the president's image.
Speaker 3: Whiles as you can see, extremely active especially in Europe
Speaker 3: on the war in Ukraine and trying to you know,
Speaker 3: keep what France has always done, you know, be good
Speaker 3: at negotiations and trying to bring peace and defend it.
Speaker 3: Of course, this is not good for the image. Now,
Speaker 3: I just hope that the budget and every program is
Speaker 3: actually defending the defense budget, which is the only one
Speaker 3: on the increase where audio others, of course, have been
Speaker 3: asked to make drastic savings, particularly in what mister Bayo,
Speaker 3: who was presenting with forty four billions savings overall, spare
Speaker 3: the defense budget