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Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, podcasts, radio news. Now, your party has

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Speaker 1: been very clear that you're willing to lead a government

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Speaker 1: on your terms. You've put forward your own budget proposal.

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Speaker 1: But why should Emmanuel Macroon pick somebody from the Socialist

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Speaker 1: Party to be prime minister?

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Speaker 2: Madel Macon needs stability, he needs He.

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Speaker 3: Had another two years to run and I think he

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Speaker 3: cannot afford to be changing his prime ministers every year.

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Speaker 3: It's not good for the economy, it's not good for

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Speaker 3: the country.

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Speaker 2: We need visibility, we need stability.

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Speaker 3: And given the results of the last elections, the Left

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Speaker 3: came first, it should have been called to government, it wasn't,

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Speaker 3: and now we have the situation that we're in. That

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Speaker 3: is a government which cannot govern because it doesn't have

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Speaker 3: a majority in the Assembly.

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Speaker 1: Of course, the Left that won the election is in

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Speaker 1: a lincients that's no longer in existence. The Far Left

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Speaker 1: Party of France on Boud has has pulled apart from

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Speaker 1: your party and the Greens in that alliance. So the

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Speaker 1: numbers don't stack up in exactly the same way. But

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Speaker 1: can your party build a working minority in parliament. You know,

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Speaker 1: we've already heard doubts from the center right, layer of

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Speaker 1: public any or traditional political rivals through modern French political history,

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Speaker 1: who said that they won't participate in the government that's

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Speaker 1: led by the Socialist Party. Could could the socials do

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Speaker 1: any better when it came to the parliamentary arithmetic?

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Speaker 3: And I think we have to draw the lessons from

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Speaker 3: mister Bayohu's methods, which was to just decide on his

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Speaker 3: own believe that he can go to the country by

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Speaker 3: you know, being on television. I think he gave interviews

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Speaker 3: to every single newspaper and TV channel and felt that,

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Speaker 3: you know, the people might turn against you know, the

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Speaker 3: members of parliament. But that's not the case. That was

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Speaker 3: not the case.

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Speaker 2: So I think we have to change drastically.

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Speaker 3: We don't have a tradition of coalitions or compromise or

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Speaker 3: but I mean, if we need now.

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Speaker 2: A budget, which is absolutely essential, and in.

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Speaker 3: The Senate we've been preparing for the past few months

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Speaker 3: to discuss it because you know, because of the instability

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Speaker 3: in the National Assembly. In fact, the Senate that has

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Speaker 3: been doing the job for the past few years now

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Speaker 3: doing the job of the Assembly and ourselves. So I mean,

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Speaker 3: we cannot continue like that. So I think the Socialists

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Speaker 3: as anybody would be called by the president.

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Speaker 2: We'll have to seek compromises.

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Speaker 3: I mean, we're looking then it's mathematics, you know, it's

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Speaker 3: down to mathematics, and we're looking at every vote. Who

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Speaker 3: in the central block rejected the government, who in the

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Speaker 3: right rejected the government, and see that maybe the figures

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Speaker 3: may add up to have that majority, that the that

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Speaker 3: we absolutely need. Now.

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Speaker 1: We spoke to the vice president of MADIF earlier on

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Speaker 1: the program who said that a socialist government and the

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Speaker 1: current current budget proposal would be a catastrophe. Is a

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Speaker 1: socialist budget plan going to be bad for the French economy?

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Speaker 3: Well, I was at the MEDIEV we know to last

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Speaker 3: week and the MEDEV has also it's a tradition in

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Speaker 3: France always been right wing, believed that only the right

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Speaker 3: wing can lead the country. And then we see where

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Speaker 3: the country, the state of the country today and the economy,

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Speaker 3: and in fact, privately, when I speak to them and

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Speaker 3: remind them of Fansolando indeed Frans terms, they agree that

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Speaker 3: in fact, you know, the economy was balanced ASIL alone

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Speaker 3: actually reduced the deficit of France drastically from five percent

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Speaker 3: to but three percent in five years and it didn't

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Speaker 3: run again, and that was that was it.

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Speaker 1: But no, the.

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Speaker 3: Socialists in power have a tradition of keeping the books

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Speaker 3: really well.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 3: Of course, you know, the big industrial groups and so

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Speaker 3: on do not are not left wing, none of them.

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Speaker 2: And of course we'll have the kind of rejection, but.

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Speaker 3: Individually they you know, they agree that you know, it

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Speaker 3: could it could work.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 3: The one thing about the socialist program is that there

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Speaker 3: will be a reintroduction of taxes on very high revenues,

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Speaker 3: and of course they're not happy with that because it

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Speaker 3: will just you know, individually.

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Speaker 2: And personally touch them.

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Speaker 3: So of course everybody's is happy to make the livings

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Speaker 3: as long as others make them.

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Speaker 1: I just want to ask you briefly on your foreign

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Speaker 1: affairs brief as well. I mean, does those political instability

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Speaker 1: harm France's possession on the international stage?

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Speaker 2: But we can of course, I think the president's image.

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Speaker 3: Whiles as you can see, extremely active especially in Europe

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Speaker 3: on the war in Ukraine and trying to you know,

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Speaker 3: keep what France has always done, you know, be good

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Speaker 3: at negotiations and trying to bring peace and defend it.

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Speaker 3: Of course, this is not good for the image. Now,

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Speaker 3: I just hope that the budget and every program is

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Speaker 3: actually defending the defense budget, which is the only one

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Speaker 3: on the increase where audio others, of course, have been

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Speaker 3: asked to make drastic savings, particularly in what mister Bayo,

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Speaker 3: who was presenting with forty four billions savings overall, spare

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Speaker 3: the defense budget