1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:20,720 Speaker 1: Hi, everyone, Welcome to Packers Unscripted from Packers dot Com. 2 00:00:20,760 --> 00:00:23,279 Speaker 1: I am Mike Spofford. He is the one and only 3 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:26,119 Speaker 1: wes hod Kouits. We hope you have rung in the 4 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:30,680 Speaker 1: new year in a fun and celebratory fashion. West. We 5 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:33,920 Speaker 1: are going to wrap up the season here on our 6 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:36,839 Speaker 1: show today. I know everybody's got questions about what's going 7 00:00:36,880 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 1: on with the head coaching sirch, who are the Packers 8 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:43,000 Speaker 1: talking to? Who are the leading candidates. Rather than speculate 9 00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:46,920 Speaker 1: on who may or may not be interviewing coaching candidates 10 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:49,360 Speaker 1: the Packers may or may not be interested in, We're 11 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:52,280 Speaker 1: gonna leave that whole discussion until a hire is made. 12 00:00:52,680 --> 00:00:55,880 Speaker 1: So with that, this will be our wrap up show 13 00:00:55,920 --> 00:01:00,360 Speaker 1: for the season, and then we will come back when 14 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:04,280 Speaker 1: a new head coach is in place at So that's 15 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:08,720 Speaker 1: the plan here going forward. Um, but some awards here 16 00:01:08,760 --> 00:01:11,640 Speaker 1: we can hand out for the season. A handful of them. 17 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:13,920 Speaker 1: Will rattle through these quickly. I'm gonna give you the 18 00:01:13,959 --> 00:01:17,280 Speaker 1: advantage because I'm gonna let you pick first every time, 19 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:21,160 Speaker 1: and then I have to pick somebody different. But but 20 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:23,920 Speaker 1: here we go. First, one offensive m v P for 21 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:26,399 Speaker 1: the Green Bay Packers. You know, I was hoping we 22 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:29,160 Speaker 1: get Marvin down here with our little unscript ese that 23 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:32,400 Speaker 1: he can be like handing out to each individual person. Uh, 24 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:34,040 Speaker 1: we'll have to you know, this is I think a 25 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:36,360 Speaker 1: first or second annual thing. So maybe we'll do that 26 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:39,760 Speaker 1: next year, have like little unscript awards that we can 27 00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:42,720 Speaker 1: bestow onto people. Producer of the Year is Marvin by 28 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 1: the absolutely unequivocally easiest decision we'd have to make, um 29 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:50,920 Speaker 1: other than Davante Adams as the Packers offensive m v P. 30 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:54,320 Speaker 1: You can make a case, Michael that Davante Adams was 31 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:56,840 Speaker 1: the top receiver in the league this year, and there 32 00:01:56,920 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 1: was a bevy of them. Michael Thomas broke the single 33 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:02,840 Speaker 1: season yardage record for New Orleans this past year. That 34 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:06,240 Speaker 1: says a lot considering how much that they have thrown 35 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:09,239 Speaker 1: the ball over the years. But the thing about Davante Adams, Mike, 36 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 1: from day one, he put pen to paper on that 37 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:15,400 Speaker 1: contract extension last December, and he said he wanted to 38 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 1: make sure that everybody knew that he was worth it. 39 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 1: The numbers, the number being paid it well is something 40 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:23,920 Speaker 1: that goes along with playing well. But the thing that 41 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:27,520 Speaker 1: motivates him the most is to be a top notch, 42 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:30,040 Speaker 1: top flight receiver. He did that this year a hundred 43 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 1: and eleven catches, six yards, thirteen touchdowns. One of the 44 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:37,200 Speaker 1: most consistent performers in the entire NFL this season and 45 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:39,120 Speaker 1: for the Green Bay Packers their offensive m v P. 46 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:41,280 Speaker 1: I think the thing that impressed me the most about 47 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:43,959 Speaker 1: Adams season is what you just said about the contract, 48 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 1: that he did it the year after he signed that contract. 49 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:49,679 Speaker 1: He not only lived up to the contract, but I 50 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:51,920 Speaker 1: think exceeded it in so many ways in terms of 51 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:55,040 Speaker 1: the consistency, in terms of the big plays. Obviously the 52 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 1: numbers this season, when you look at the whole combination 53 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 1: of catches, yards, and touchdowns, that will go down as 54 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 1: one of the best seasons in the history of the 55 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 1: Green Bay Packers for wide receiver. So that's saying a lot. 56 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:09,679 Speaker 1: In the interest of picking somebody else for offensive m 57 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:12,600 Speaker 1: v P, I'm gonna go with left tackle David bok Try. 58 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:17,239 Speaker 1: I think he was the UH rock on that offensive line, 59 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 1: both box tr and Corey Linsley in my opinion, but 60 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:22,920 Speaker 1: I'll go with box Tr because of that duty at 61 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 1: left tackle protecting Aaron Rodgers blindside, and I think we 62 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:29,360 Speaker 1: saw bok t take his game a little bit to 63 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:31,960 Speaker 1: another level this year. In terms of the run blocking, 64 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:34,680 Speaker 1: I think that the past blocking has always been there, really, 65 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 1: I would say, starting at a super consistent level from 66 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:43,960 Speaker 1: his second season in after that that rookie year when 67 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 1: he got thrown in there. But he's gone to another 68 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 1: level now with the run blocking, and I think that, um, 69 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:52,560 Speaker 1: that only bodes well here for the Packers offense moving forward. Yea. 70 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:54,320 Speaker 1: And the fact that he did it, you know, playing 71 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:56,720 Speaker 1: for his own Nixon bruises. And that's the other thing 72 00:03:56,760 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 1: I was going to say to yeah, no question, and 73 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:02,000 Speaker 1: I just I you know, I'll be honest with you. Obviously, 74 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 1: I don't watch every left tackle in the league. As 75 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:06,080 Speaker 1: much as I love to grind film, I'm not you know, 76 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 1: you know, honing in on how you know, certain guys 77 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 1: get out of their back pedal and different techniques. But 78 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 1: box tr for this offense and what they need with 79 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:16,920 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers is the perfect left tackle. He's a franchise 80 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:19,239 Speaker 1: left tackle and he's continued to elevate his game every 81 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:22,840 Speaker 1: single season now, six seasons in the NFL. Alright, defensive 82 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 1: m v P. Who you got, you know, I hate 83 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 1: to keep cherry picking here, But Kenny Clark has to 84 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:30,360 Speaker 1: be that guy. When you look at a first round 85 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:34,240 Speaker 1: caliber player, a guy that when you draft him, there's 86 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:37,919 Speaker 1: high expectations. You want a guy that is going to 87 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 1: you know, be a a lynch pin on your entire roster. 88 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:45,320 Speaker 1: Kenny Clark has been that guy. It's unfortunate the elbow 89 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:48,080 Speaker 1: injury happened. If not for that, he would have set 90 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 1: a new career high in tackles. He said his goal 91 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:53,480 Speaker 1: this year was to get seventy tackles official tackles and 92 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 1: NFL UH stack column, which I mean if you know 93 00:04:57,000 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 1: anything about a one tech or three tech nose to 94 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 1: on this league, it's difficult to get those kind of 95 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 1: numbers because a lot of times you're taking on double 96 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 1: teams and you're opening up you know, blockers and for 97 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:10,599 Speaker 1: your for your defenders behind you. Clark doesn't do that. 98 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:13,600 Speaker 1: He eats him up himself. So to have fifty five tackles, 99 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:16,800 Speaker 1: a career high six sacks, three passes, defense also forced 100 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 1: to fumble Kenny Casey bolt that life Clark at twenty 101 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:24,320 Speaker 1: three years young. You look at his resume that he's 102 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:27,320 Speaker 1: built in three short NFL seasons, He's gonna be a 103 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:29,520 Speaker 1: good one man. Yeah, I can't argue with that choice 104 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:31,400 Speaker 1: at all. I agree with you, Kenny Clark is the 105 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:34,120 Speaker 1: defensive m v P of this team. In the interest 106 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:37,800 Speaker 1: of picking somebody different, I'm gonna go with Blake Martinez. 107 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:40,279 Speaker 1: And it's not even so much about the statistics. I know, 108 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:43,080 Speaker 1: improving from one sack to five sacks the way he 109 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:45,880 Speaker 1: was used in Mike Petton scheme definitely a step in 110 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 1: the right direction from Martinez. He's still racked up a 111 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:50,679 Speaker 1: bunch of tackles, maybe not quite as many as last 112 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 1: year as the previous year. But the reason I will 113 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:57,359 Speaker 1: say Martinez here is because with a new scheme, a 114 00:05:57,360 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 1: whole new system being brought in, we saw on this 115 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 1: Packers defense in minimal communication misques, and I think that 116 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 1: goes to Martinez and the way he commanded the huddle, 117 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 1: the way he led things from a communication standpoint in 118 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:14,840 Speaker 1: the middle of the defense. I think that spoke a 119 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:18,680 Speaker 1: lot to the level of improvement that the defense made 120 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:22,800 Speaker 1: overall sixteen starts thirty two consecutive over the last two seasons. 121 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:26,200 Speaker 1: For Martinez, I know he wants playoffs, and that's ultimately 122 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 1: the goal for everyone on this roster, But I think 123 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:30,799 Speaker 1: when he sits at home after the season, cannot help 124 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 1: but be proud of the year that he put together. 125 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:36,520 Speaker 1: There really wasn't a de facto number two. Certainly Antonio 126 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 1: Morrison jumped into that spot. Is that every down linebacker 127 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 1: in the few snaps when Martinez was out with injury 128 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:45,840 Speaker 1: this year, But you need a guy like him that's 129 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 1: going to be able to envelop Mike Petton's system and 130 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:52,880 Speaker 1: be able to disperse that to the entire defense. He's 131 00:06:52,920 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 1: been that player and Michael the other thing is too. 132 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:57,040 Speaker 1: I don't want to throw anybody under the bus. I'm 133 00:06:57,080 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 1: not meaning to disrespect anybody, but there was a number 134 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 1: of years there where dom Capers, with the way that 135 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:05,560 Speaker 1: this defense was built, they were using converted outside linebackers 136 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 1: at inside backer. They had to do some mix and matching. 137 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 1: They were looking for a guy that could handle the 138 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:14,600 Speaker 1: three down role. Martinez has done that. Now. Certainly, you 139 00:07:14,640 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 1: know there's always room for improvement with his own game, 140 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 1: and he's the first one to tell you that. But 141 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:21,760 Speaker 1: his ability to kind of calm the seas there after 142 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:23,400 Speaker 1: a number of years where that was considered one of 143 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:26,120 Speaker 1: their primary needs, I think speaks really highly of him. Yeah, 144 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:28,960 Speaker 1: those two guys from the two thousand sixteen draft class 145 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:32,360 Speaker 1: clearly becoming part of the foundations of this Packers defense 146 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:36,680 Speaker 1: moving forward. Okay, category number three breakout player of the year, 147 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 1: you got one. Let's stay with the two thousand sixteen 148 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:43,120 Speaker 1: NFL draft, should we shall we? Kyler Facrol alright? Ten 149 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:46,800 Speaker 1: and a half sacks for him this season, Much like 150 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 1: with Kenny Clark. They wrote down those goals with coordinator 151 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 1: Mark Mike Petton at the beginning of the season, and 152 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:54,960 Speaker 1: he marked down that he wanted double digit sack totals 153 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 1: and considering there was only three individuals who have achieved 154 00:07:58,240 --> 00:08:00,679 Speaker 1: that for the Green Bay Packers defense over the last decade, 155 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:03,280 Speaker 1: a lofty goal, but he said he really embraced that. 156 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:06,720 Speaker 1: And then here you go to three sack performances this year, 157 00:08:06,760 --> 00:08:09,120 Speaker 1: ten and a half on the season. For everything that 158 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:12,120 Speaker 1: Kyler Facral has had to kind of weather with the 159 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 1: outside noise, with some of the doubters with him getting 160 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:17,480 Speaker 1: taken the third round back in two thousand and sixteen, 161 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 1: to see him have the year that he had, really 162 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:22,480 Speaker 1: strong campaign for him and now going to be a 163 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:24,920 Speaker 1: building block for the Packers as they look to make 164 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:27,560 Speaker 1: that next step now with those pass rushers this offseason, 165 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:29,400 Speaker 1: all right, and I'm gonna go in the two thousand 166 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:32,080 Speaker 1: seventeen draft and I'm going with Aaron Jones here as 167 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:35,360 Speaker 1: the breakout player. Now, we all knew what the potential was, 168 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:38,560 Speaker 1: and I think we started to see that. But I 169 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:41,640 Speaker 1: say started to see that because I think that Jones 170 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:45,200 Speaker 1: still has more to give here. He needs to continue 171 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 1: to work on that lower body, be able to you know, 172 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 1: build it up to withstand a full sixteen game schedule. 173 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:54,840 Speaker 1: Obviously that didn't work out with with getting injured right 174 00:08:54,880 --> 00:08:57,160 Speaker 1: towards the end of the regular season here, but he's 175 00:08:57,160 --> 00:08:59,959 Speaker 1: still had over seven d yards rushing eight rushing touchdown. 176 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:02,200 Speaker 1: I think there's even more he can do in the 177 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:05,320 Speaker 1: passing game as well moving forward, depending on obviously whatever 178 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:08,839 Speaker 1: offensive system comes in here. But this is a guy 179 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:10,600 Speaker 1: when he's got the ball in his hands and a 180 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:13,880 Speaker 1: little bit of space west, he's he's a special player. 181 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:16,200 Speaker 1: And I think potentially if that health part of it 182 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:18,520 Speaker 1: holds up, I think he can have the ball in 183 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:21,320 Speaker 1: his hands even more in Yeah, just keep him off 184 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:24,160 Speaker 1: a soldier field and he'll be fine. There's been nourability 185 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:30,559 Speaker 1: issues Okay, point taken, point taken. Alright, another category here, 186 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:33,360 Speaker 1: Comeback Player of the Year. It's like, it's really easy 187 00:09:33,400 --> 00:09:35,439 Speaker 1: to pick Brian blog here, and I'm gonna leave him 188 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:37,880 Speaker 1: on the vine for you to potentially pick. I'm gonna 189 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:40,439 Speaker 1: go with a shot Brelan though um And the reason 190 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:42,960 Speaker 1: I bring up Breland is he had one whale of 191 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:45,800 Speaker 1: the two thousand eighteen. This is a guy that had 192 00:09:45,880 --> 00:09:49,040 Speaker 1: played basically every snap for Washington the last four years. 193 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:51,439 Speaker 1: Looks like he's on the verge of finally getting rewarded, 194 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:55,760 Speaker 1: signing a lucrative contract with Carolina. This freak heel injury 195 00:09:56,120 --> 00:09:58,360 Speaker 1: flares up from some kind of skin graph he had 196 00:09:58,360 --> 00:10:01,560 Speaker 1: when he was a kid. They he fails the physical, 197 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:05,040 Speaker 1: the Panthers void the contract, and he ends up having 198 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:08,120 Speaker 1: to sit out until September. He comes into Green Bay 199 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:11,439 Speaker 1: without any training camp. He has to weather growing injury, 200 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:13,720 Speaker 1: a hamstring injury. But at the end of the day, 201 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:17,320 Speaker 1: Michael twenty tackles and two interceptions and seven games five 202 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:20,040 Speaker 1: starts for the Green Bay Packers this season. I just 203 00:10:20,160 --> 00:10:22,120 Speaker 1: was really impressed with how this young man came in 204 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 1: and carried himself. We'll see exactly where Brian Goodaquints wants 205 00:10:25,559 --> 00:10:27,560 Speaker 1: to do this offseason, But by no means would I 206 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:29,480 Speaker 1: be disappointed to see him come back. I think he 207 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:31,520 Speaker 1: has a lot of potential. He also gives you a 208 00:10:31,559 --> 00:10:33,600 Speaker 1: lot of flexibility with his ability to either play in 209 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:36,160 Speaker 1: the slot or at boundary cornerback. Yeah. All right, Well 210 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:38,320 Speaker 1: you were supposed to make up my mind for me 211 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:40,480 Speaker 1: because I had two guys in mind, and then you 212 00:10:40,559 --> 00:10:43,760 Speaker 1: didn't do that. So I'm gonna throw two comeback players 213 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:46,600 Speaker 1: at you. Brian Bulaga is definitely one to come back 214 00:10:46,640 --> 00:10:49,880 Speaker 1: as quickly as he did from the second torn a 215 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:53,679 Speaker 1: c l of his career, which happened in November. Was 216 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:57,200 Speaker 1: back on the field for Week one. As we said 217 00:10:57,240 --> 00:10:59,040 Speaker 1: all season long, I tipped my hat. I give him 218 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:01,320 Speaker 1: a ton of credit. I know there were some other 219 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:04,840 Speaker 1: Nixon bruises that he dealt with along the way and 220 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:08,000 Speaker 1: wasn't able to play in every game all the way along, 221 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:13,120 Speaker 1: but um, but his his comeback from November to what 222 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:15,560 Speaker 1: he was able to do in I thought was impressive. 223 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:18,600 Speaker 1: The other one Rmon Williams. He came back right, come 224 00:11:18,640 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 1: back to come back player. He came back to Green 225 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:24,280 Speaker 1: Bay and was a really, really important and valuable part 226 00:11:24,280 --> 00:11:26,760 Speaker 1: of this defense and making this transition, I think to 227 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:29,880 Speaker 1: the new scheme. His versatility could play the boundary, play 228 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:31,960 Speaker 1: the slot. He moved to safety for the back half 229 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:35,600 Speaker 1: of the season. All these things communication issues were certainly 230 00:11:35,640 --> 00:11:39,600 Speaker 1: something that we're um a forte of his as well, 231 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:42,640 Speaker 1: So so I tipped my cap also to Trmon Williams 232 00:11:42,679 --> 00:11:44,760 Speaker 1: in the comeback category. The other thing I love about 233 00:11:44,760 --> 00:11:47,400 Speaker 1: it too, he said from day one of the offseason program, Mike, 234 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:50,480 Speaker 1: he wasn't coming back just to be a veteran old 235 00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:52,600 Speaker 1: guy in the room that was just going to lead 236 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:54,480 Speaker 1: these guys emotionally. He wanted to be out there and 237 00:11:54,520 --> 00:11:56,640 Speaker 1: he wanted to play. But at the same time, if 238 00:11:56,640 --> 00:11:59,280 Speaker 1: I was Joe W. JR. If I'm Jason Simmons, I 239 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:02,200 Speaker 1: am pointing to that man right there, twelve years into 240 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:05,200 Speaker 1: his NFL career, a former undrafted free agent, had to 241 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:09,000 Speaker 1: earn everything the hard way. The fact that he's still 242 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:11,920 Speaker 1: doing what he's doing and how he's doing it should 243 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:14,720 Speaker 1: be a lesson to Kevin King and JayR Alexander Josh 244 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:17,280 Speaker 1: Jackson showing these guys about, okay, if you want to 245 00:12:17,280 --> 00:12:20,079 Speaker 1: be a player that lasts a decade in this league, 246 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:22,000 Speaker 1: take note of what this guy is doing in the 247 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:24,080 Speaker 1: fact that he's still doing it at a high level. Yeah, 248 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:26,600 Speaker 1: no question about it. All right, Rookie of the Year, 249 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:30,000 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with JOYR Alexander. That one, I think 250 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:31,800 Speaker 1: is pretty obvious when you look at the season he 251 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:34,240 Speaker 1: put together. I was talking to him during the final 252 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:37,560 Speaker 1: locker room session and sort of revisiting this year. Much 253 00:12:37,640 --> 00:12:41,480 Speaker 1: like Kevin King as his rookie year, Alexander had to 254 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:43,720 Speaker 1: end up getting a lot of the tough assignments he was, 255 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:46,240 Speaker 1: you know, the shutdown corner. Really the last six weeks 256 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:47,839 Speaker 1: of the season. He said it got to the point 257 00:12:48,360 --> 00:12:51,920 Speaker 1: that he would go into the Wednesday meeting room knowing 258 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:54,120 Speaker 1: just already feeling that they were going to have him 259 00:12:54,160 --> 00:12:57,160 Speaker 1: match up against certain receivers. He just was brace for it. 260 00:12:57,160 --> 00:12:59,080 Speaker 1: And he was doing that at twenty one years old. 261 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:01,600 Speaker 1: You know, he meant he wants to have more interceptions. 262 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:03,880 Speaker 1: He should have more interceptions. One of those got taken 263 00:13:03,880 --> 00:13:07,760 Speaker 1: away from an egregious call early this season. Um, but 264 00:13:07,880 --> 00:13:10,880 Speaker 1: the fact is is that he doesn't back down if 265 00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:13,280 Speaker 1: he can get some of these soft tissue things figured out. 266 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:17,280 Speaker 1: I just I think you're looking at a big playmaker here, 267 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:19,360 Speaker 1: and Joe Wild Jr. Said it himself. I mean, if 268 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:21,400 Speaker 1: you can get him and Kevin King on the field together, 269 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:23,800 Speaker 1: what a tandem that's gonna be for this Packers defense 270 00:13:23,800 --> 00:13:26,480 Speaker 1: in secondary. Couldn't agree more with that comment from Wit 271 00:13:26,559 --> 00:13:28,640 Speaker 1: and couldn't agree more with your selection as Rookie of 272 00:13:28,640 --> 00:13:31,120 Speaker 1: the Year. I will pick a another player on the 273 00:13:31,160 --> 00:13:34,360 Speaker 1: offensive side of the ball, though, and that's Marquez Valdes Scantling. Now, 274 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:37,000 Speaker 1: I really liked what I saw out of both Valdes 275 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:40,679 Speaker 1: Scantling and e q st Brown as rookie wide receivers. 276 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 1: They both had their moments throughout the course of the year, 277 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:46,320 Speaker 1: but just based on overall production in the numbers thirty 278 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:49,080 Speaker 1: eight catches over five hundred yards receiving, I'll go with 279 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:52,680 Speaker 1: Valda's Scantling here. The biggest thing that I like about 280 00:13:52,760 --> 00:13:56,600 Speaker 1: him just from a raw physical skill standpoint, is the 281 00:13:56,640 --> 00:13:59,120 Speaker 1: one thing he can't coach in that speed He's He's 282 00:13:59,160 --> 00:14:01,480 Speaker 1: got it. I think I think it's something that could 283 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:04,560 Speaker 1: be a huge asset for this offense moving forward. He's 284 00:14:04,640 --> 00:14:07,559 Speaker 1: the kind of receiver that the Packers haven't had around 285 00:14:07,559 --> 00:14:10,120 Speaker 1: here in a while. In the for the bulk I 286 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:12,120 Speaker 1: would say of the Aaron Rodgers era, a guy with 287 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:15,240 Speaker 1: that kind of just open field, flat out speed, I'm 288 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:17,640 Speaker 1: excited to see what he can do going forward. Legitimate 289 00:14:17,679 --> 00:14:20,080 Speaker 1: home run threat every time he touches the ball. I 290 00:14:20,120 --> 00:14:22,200 Speaker 1: think one thing the Packers did better during the second 291 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:23,640 Speaker 1: half of the season is getting him the ball in 292 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:26,040 Speaker 1: open space doesn't always have to be a go route. 293 00:14:26,080 --> 00:14:28,400 Speaker 1: You can do things underneath the potentially get let him 294 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:32,400 Speaker 1: get separation and let him break away from guys. I 295 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:35,800 Speaker 1: really wish that the one thing that is gonna I 296 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:37,760 Speaker 1: wanted to see that defensive line together. I wanted to 297 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:41,080 Speaker 1: see Mohammed Wolkerson and Kenny Clark and Mike Daniels operate. 298 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:44,400 Speaker 1: I've really wanted to see what this offense could do 299 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:47,720 Speaker 1: with MVS being sort of a change of pace player 300 00:14:48,400 --> 00:14:51,520 Speaker 1: you had. That's a really good point. If if you 301 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:53,600 Speaker 1: have Allison and Cobb the bulk of the year with 302 00:14:53,680 --> 00:14:56,640 Speaker 1: Adams and as you say, then then Valdes Scantling is 303 00:14:56,760 --> 00:14:59,520 Speaker 1: uh is that changeup you can throw in there as 304 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:03,040 Speaker 1: a perime her option? Yeah? That that unfortunately was the 305 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:06,280 Speaker 1: thing offensively that just never was able to materialize because 306 00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:08,760 Speaker 1: of the injury issues. Yeah, if you have that. That's 307 00:15:08,760 --> 00:15:11,040 Speaker 1: something that if you're a secondary coach or defensive coordinator, 308 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:13,120 Speaker 1: eighty three comes on the field, you gotta change what 309 00:15:13,160 --> 00:15:15,640 Speaker 1: you're planning to do out there, because he can just 310 00:15:15,680 --> 00:15:18,000 Speaker 1: go one on one, beat your cornerback and are you 311 00:15:18,080 --> 00:15:20,360 Speaker 1: keeping another safety over there? If you do that? How 312 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:22,280 Speaker 1: does that open up the rest of the field. He's 313 00:15:22,280 --> 00:15:24,160 Speaker 1: gonna be a great player in this offense, though, I 314 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:26,360 Speaker 1: think him and st Brown, you know, Jamon Moore has 315 00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:28,440 Speaker 1: a lot of potential as well. Seeing how those young 316 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:30,280 Speaker 1: guys develop is gonna be really exciting to watch going 317 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:33,000 Speaker 1: into two thousand nineteen. All Right, our last category here 318 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:36,840 Speaker 1: before we get to a little bit of NFL Playoffs 319 00:15:36,880 --> 00:15:40,480 Speaker 1: preview Play of the Year. What do you like? Yeah, 320 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:42,880 Speaker 1: so I basically came down to two. You had a 321 00:15:42,920 --> 00:15:46,200 Speaker 1: couple too, so I'm gonna go with the two. Uh. Defensively, 322 00:15:46,280 --> 00:15:48,440 Speaker 1: to me, it's still that Kevin King interception. I just 323 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:51,520 Speaker 1: loved it. I loved the grittiness of that defense. San 324 00:15:51,520 --> 00:15:55,000 Speaker 1: Francisco Monday Night Football. Yes, it was a tough game. 325 00:15:55,120 --> 00:15:57,640 Speaker 1: They had to rally to beat San Francisco team that 326 00:15:57,640 --> 00:15:59,080 Speaker 1: I think a lot of people on papers thought they 327 00:15:59,080 --> 00:16:01,400 Speaker 1: should have just Wallow and been done with it. That 328 00:16:01,800 --> 00:16:03,760 Speaker 1: didn't happen, so they had to work their way back. 329 00:16:04,360 --> 00:16:06,600 Speaker 1: They get you know, the forty niners are driving a 330 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:08,880 Speaker 1: little bit, and you know you have Beth Thord sort 331 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:10,880 Speaker 1: of put up a fifty fifty ball and Kevin King 332 00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:12,560 Speaker 1: makes them pay for it. You started to see the 333 00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:15,800 Speaker 1: legitimate playmaking ability of King, not just the coverage, but 334 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:18,480 Speaker 1: what he could do as a pass catcher in this league. 335 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:20,640 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, again he has to work through 336 00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:23,240 Speaker 1: some injury issues, but that that was such a great play. 337 00:16:23,320 --> 00:16:25,960 Speaker 1: And then the first game of the year, the Randall 338 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:28,080 Speaker 1: cop catch. You have to, you know, put that in 339 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:32,480 Speaker 1: the conversations. Completes the comeback over the Bears, the best 340 00:16:32,560 --> 00:16:35,440 Speaker 1: victory the Packers had in two thousand eighteen against a 341 00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:39,000 Speaker 1: team that went on to only lose four games. Unfortunately, again, 342 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:41,160 Speaker 1: injuries kind of you know, reared their ugly head and 343 00:16:41,480 --> 00:16:43,400 Speaker 1: things didn't go the way that Cobb wanted it too 344 00:16:43,400 --> 00:16:46,000 Speaker 1: in two thousand and eighteen. But what a great reminder 345 00:16:46,040 --> 00:16:49,720 Speaker 1: of that Aaron Rodgers, you know, battery with with Randall 346 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:51,880 Speaker 1: Cobb and how effective that was for the Packers for 347 00:16:51,920 --> 00:16:53,760 Speaker 1: so many years. Yeah, and I will just throw this 348 00:16:53,800 --> 00:16:56,080 Speaker 1: out there before I give you my selection, I think 349 00:16:56,240 --> 00:16:59,880 Speaker 1: the uh the play that gets overlooked from the twin 350 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:03,680 Speaker 1: eighteen season that really was something was also from Week one, 351 00:17:03,720 --> 00:17:07,680 Speaker 1: the touchdown past to Geronimo by Aaron Rodgers. Tremendous throw, 352 00:17:07,840 --> 00:17:12,520 Speaker 1: tremendous catch. Unfortunately that ended all too early in with 353 00:17:12,560 --> 00:17:15,480 Speaker 1: Allison getting injured. But Allison too, I mean before you 354 00:17:15,560 --> 00:17:16,919 Speaker 1: ended up having that, I think it ended up being 355 00:17:16,960 --> 00:17:19,080 Speaker 1: a soft muscle injury or no, it was a core 356 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:21,480 Speaker 1: muscle injury. I think it was the fact that I 357 00:17:21,520 --> 00:17:23,080 Speaker 1: think every I don't have the stance up in front 358 00:17:23,080 --> 00:17:24,800 Speaker 1: of me. I think all of his starts, it was 359 00:17:24,840 --> 00:17:27,560 Speaker 1: five catches for at least sixty yards when you're looking 360 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:29,800 Speaker 1: at the number three heck even a number two receiver 361 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:32,080 Speaker 1: in this offense, he was That's the hallmark of it. 362 00:17:32,119 --> 00:17:34,119 Speaker 1: And Allison was really on pace for that. That was 363 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:35,800 Speaker 1: a shame that he wasn't able to finish it up. Yeah, 364 00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:37,520 Speaker 1: he was off to such a great start. But my 365 00:17:37,600 --> 00:17:39,040 Speaker 1: pick for play of the year, and this is a 366 00:17:39,080 --> 00:17:41,640 Speaker 1: little unusual because I'm actually picking one from a game 367 00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:46,600 Speaker 1: that the Packers lost, but the touchdown pass in Seattle 368 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:49,040 Speaker 1: on Thursday Night Football to Robert Tanya in the fifty 369 00:17:49,040 --> 00:17:51,760 Speaker 1: four yard or not only the first catch and first 370 00:17:51,760 --> 00:17:56,280 Speaker 1: touchdown for the undrafted tight end in Tanyan, but the 371 00:17:56,359 --> 00:17:58,760 Speaker 1: kind of play that was, you know, quite frankly, was 372 00:17:58,840 --> 00:18:00,800 Speaker 1: kind of a throwback play, a to the to the 373 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:04,680 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers scrambled drilled days of old where he gets 374 00:18:04,680 --> 00:18:07,639 Speaker 1: out of he gets out of the pocket and heaves 375 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:10,800 Speaker 1: it downfield and makes you pay because because he was 376 00:18:10,840 --> 00:18:14,000 Speaker 1: able to extend the play and and uh, I really 377 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:16,159 Speaker 1: thought at the time, and it happened in the end 378 00:18:16,240 --> 00:18:18,120 Speaker 1: zone that was kind of right in front of us, 379 00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:20,760 Speaker 1: like where our press box seats were, so that was 380 00:18:20,800 --> 00:18:22,720 Speaker 1: the end zone where we were kind of sitting, and 381 00:18:23,080 --> 00:18:25,080 Speaker 1: we saw that. I thought that was the play that 382 00:18:25,160 --> 00:18:27,680 Speaker 1: was going to catapult the Packers to a huge Thursday 383 00:18:27,800 --> 00:18:30,960 Speaker 1: night victory on the road in Seattle, and and really 384 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:33,760 Speaker 1: kind of turned the whole season around. Unfortunately that didn't happen, 385 00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:36,879 Speaker 1: But it doesn't take away from, at least from, in 386 00:18:36,960 --> 00:18:40,080 Speaker 1: my opinion, how amazing a play, how amazing a touchdown 387 00:18:40,119 --> 00:18:44,000 Speaker 1: that was Big Bob Tanyans baby boy Bobby Bobby is 388 00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:47,480 Speaker 1: Aaron liked to refer to him in discussions as the 389 00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:50,440 Speaker 1: season went along. Um. 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I don't know if you want to start 405 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:37,399 Speaker 1: in the NFC or in the in the a f C. 406 00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:40,639 Speaker 1: But when I look at the a f C, this 407 00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:44,119 Speaker 1: Chargers Ravens wild card game is really interesting to me 408 00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:46,919 Speaker 1: because they just played in Los Angeles, a couple of 409 00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:50,560 Speaker 1: weeks ago, I think this Ray, this Ravens team is 410 00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:53,720 Speaker 1: one definitely to keep an eye on. I did a 411 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:56,520 Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago. I did think the Chargers were 412 00:19:56,560 --> 00:19:58,440 Speaker 1: maybe that team with Philip Rivers that was going to 413 00:19:58,520 --> 00:20:00,480 Speaker 1: go to the Super Bowl. So I will stick with that. 414 00:20:01,040 --> 00:20:03,800 Speaker 1: But I'll say this about the Ravens West, doesn't it 415 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:07,000 Speaker 1: don't they kind of seem like the two thousand twelve 416 00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:09,560 Speaker 1: San Francisco forty Niners. You took the words right out 417 00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:11,399 Speaker 1: of my mind. They go, you know, the switch at 418 00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:14,160 Speaker 1: quarterback from you know, it went from Smith to Kaepernick. 419 00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:17,240 Speaker 1: This one goes from Flacco to Lamar Jackson. Defense is 420 00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:19,320 Speaker 1: not really sure how in the world to do that, 421 00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:21,919 Speaker 1: and then on the how in the world to defend that. 422 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:23,800 Speaker 1: And then on the other side of the ball, you 423 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:26,159 Speaker 1: have the you have a defense that travels well. As 424 00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:28,320 Speaker 1: they say, they can take that unit anywhere, line it 425 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:31,679 Speaker 1: up against anybody. Um, I think the winner of this 426 00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:35,399 Speaker 1: Chargers Ravens game might be might be the team to 427 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:36,680 Speaker 1: beat in the a f C. I don't want to 428 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:39,800 Speaker 1: play them. I mean, that's certainly the case. Whoever comes 429 00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:42,360 Speaker 1: out of this thing. There's two elements of this game. 430 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:44,800 Speaker 1: I really like you're absolutely spot on with the with 431 00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:47,080 Speaker 1: the analogy. They even have a hardball that's coaching them. 432 00:20:47,359 --> 00:20:49,720 Speaker 1: How how but how ironic would that be? Though? The 433 00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:51,879 Speaker 1: Ravens being the team that beat the two thousand and 434 00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:54,480 Speaker 1: twelve forty Niners in the Super Bowl and now it's 435 00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:57,199 Speaker 1: the two thousand eighteen Ravens that look like that Niners 436 00:20:57,240 --> 00:21:00,159 Speaker 1: team for six years ago. Just strange. It's interesting me 437 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:03,240 Speaker 1: and that they're winning games and that was something when 438 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:05,800 Speaker 1: you look earlier in the season they just consistently couldn't do. 439 00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:08,760 Speaker 1: They were always around five hundred, but they couldn't separate 440 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:11,840 Speaker 1: themselves since moving this this decision to go with Lamar 441 00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:15,359 Speaker 1: Jackson at quarterback, is it slightly unconventional? Yes, do you 442 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:17,680 Speaker 1: wonder what the you know, the half life on It's 443 00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:21,080 Speaker 1: gonna be sure do but that none of that matters 444 00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:24,720 Speaker 1: right now. Two playing for a championship. Right now, it's 445 00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:28,439 Speaker 1: about trying to secure another Super Bowl. In l A's defense, 446 00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:31,920 Speaker 1: it's gonna be a big challenge for them offensively. This 447 00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:34,199 Speaker 1: is what you want to see because Philip Rivers has 448 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:36,080 Speaker 1: had to go through some tough times. There's been some 449 00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:39,600 Speaker 1: lean years there as of late inconsistent years. Offensively, they 450 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:42,080 Speaker 1: lose Keenan Allen a couple of times. Well, here you 451 00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:44,320 Speaker 1: are now, and you're back in this thing, and you've 452 00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:46,000 Speaker 1: got a chance. You have a chip in a chair. 453 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:50,480 Speaker 1: I agree with you. Pent whoever prevails in this I 454 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:52,520 Speaker 1: don't want to face them in round two. I just 455 00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:55,320 Speaker 1: think that terms are built to get on a run here. Yeah, 456 00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:58,680 Speaker 1: and it'd be interesting because the Chargers they're going in 457 00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:01,399 Speaker 1: with a lot to prove because of that offense getting 458 00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:03,800 Speaker 1: shut down by the Ravens on that Saturday night game 459 00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:06,400 Speaker 1: from a couple of weeks ago. And the Ravens are 460 00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:09,600 Speaker 1: quite frankly a hot team that, as I said, the 461 00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:12,199 Speaker 1: other teams you don't quite know how to deal with 462 00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:14,520 Speaker 1: with this defense and the way it's come on strong 463 00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:16,600 Speaker 1: late in the year and then Lamar Jackson and all 464 00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:20,760 Speaker 1: this unorthodox kind of stuff they're doing on offense. So interesting. 465 00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:23,240 Speaker 1: They're gonna be tough for anybody, certainly to go into 466 00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:26,120 Speaker 1: Arrowhead and beat the Kansas City Chiefs. But I will 467 00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:29,280 Speaker 1: say this about the Ravens too, the Raves, the Ravens, 468 00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:31,399 Speaker 1: the Ravens and the Chargers. What's that? Did l A 469 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:34,800 Speaker 1: already do that? Or was that game in l A. No, 470 00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:36,840 Speaker 1: that was that. That was that Arrowhead. Yeah, that's what 471 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:38,440 Speaker 1: That's what I was gonna say when you talk about 472 00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:41,880 Speaker 1: Chargers Ravens. The Chargers beat the Chiefs that Arrowhead recently 473 00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:44,680 Speaker 1: on that Thursday night game, the Ravens should have beaten 474 00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:46,679 Speaker 1: the Chiefs at Arrowhead if not for a fourth and 475 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:49,720 Speaker 1: nine miracle throw from Mahomes to Hill that sent that 476 00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:53,679 Speaker 1: game to overtime and then Kansas City ultimately prevailed. And 477 00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:56,440 Speaker 1: you also look at this Ravens, this Ravens team West, 478 00:22:56,960 --> 00:23:00,640 Speaker 1: even before they switched quarterbacks to Lamar Jackson, they had 479 00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:04,120 Speaker 1: the New Orleans Saints down sevent seven after three quarters, 480 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:06,280 Speaker 1: let him up off the mat. The Saints ended up 481 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:08,960 Speaker 1: pulling out that game. This Ravens team, they can play 482 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:14,280 Speaker 1: with anybody NFC side. I mentioned this as well as 483 00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:16,400 Speaker 1: some of the other comments I just made in our 484 00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:20,800 Speaker 1: Insider Inbox column. I think, if there's one playoff matchup 485 00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:23,159 Speaker 1: that I want to see in the NFC, and there 486 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:24,639 Speaker 1: are a lot of good ones that are already on 487 00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:27,679 Speaker 1: the slate this weekend, these two games Seahawks, Cowboys Eagles 488 00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:31,360 Speaker 1: Bears should be great games. But I don't you kind 489 00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:35,000 Speaker 1: of want to see Chicago's defense against that New Orleans 490 00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:37,200 Speaker 1: offense in the super Dome. Now, it would have to 491 00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:39,840 Speaker 1: be in the NFC Championship. Based on the seating, they 492 00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:41,840 Speaker 1: wouldn't meet in the second round. They could only meet 493 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:44,280 Speaker 1: in the Championship and a lot of stuff could happen 494 00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:47,000 Speaker 1: between now and then. But just from a from a 495 00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:53,160 Speaker 1: pure football who's who's got it better? Um, that's kind 496 00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:55,240 Speaker 1: of the matchup I want to see on the NFC side. 497 00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:58,880 Speaker 1: Agree with My favorite for this playoff run is still 498 00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:01,399 Speaker 1: New Orleans. I think they are the most complete team. 499 00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:04,520 Speaker 1: I think it's the best defense they've had, at least 500 00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:06,640 Speaker 1: over the last decade. I thought they were the best 501 00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:09,560 Speaker 1: team going into the playoffs last year, and there's nothing, 502 00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:12,880 Speaker 1: nothing that I've seen this year has swayed my opinion 503 00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:14,840 Speaker 1: of them being the team to beat in the NFC. 504 00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:17,040 Speaker 1: The Bears are a little bit more of a specialist. 505 00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:19,320 Speaker 1: They need to have their defense control the tempo with 506 00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:21,639 Speaker 1: the game to win. But what a great test for 507 00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:24,480 Speaker 1: them coming out of the gate against Philadelphia and Philadelphia 508 00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:26,320 Speaker 1: feeling like they got, you know, a little bit of 509 00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:28,640 Speaker 1: momentum behind them right now with being able to surge 510 00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:30,880 Speaker 1: into the playoffs the way they did. No question, I'm 511 00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:34,040 Speaker 1: with you. I think Chicago New Orleans that's the matchup. 512 00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:36,120 Speaker 1: I think that's the one you put on the marquee, 513 00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:38,480 Speaker 1: but you know it's and I think I say that. 514 00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:41,000 Speaker 1: I say that in part, sorry to interrupt you. I 515 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:44,200 Speaker 1: say that in part because, um, as good a matchup 516 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:46,760 Speaker 1: as Rams and Saints is with those two offenses, we 517 00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:49,040 Speaker 1: did see that matchup during the year, so that I 518 00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:51,399 Speaker 1: think that's why I just in my brain I'm looking 519 00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:53,480 Speaker 1: for maybe to see the Bears against the Saints because 520 00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:55,800 Speaker 1: we didn't get to see that one yet. And hey, 521 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:58,320 Speaker 1: the Rams might get on a run here, oh shut 522 00:24:58,359 --> 00:25:01,080 Speaker 1: me up. But I still I think the second half 523 00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:04,040 Speaker 1: the season exposed some wards there, and I just I 524 00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:07,439 Speaker 1: think even though the Saints had to claw and scratch 525 00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:09,399 Speaker 1: their way through a couple of games as well, I 526 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:12,000 Speaker 1: just I look at them like, Okay, that that's that's 527 00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:14,520 Speaker 1: the favorite. And when I see the Bears, I just 528 00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:17,200 Speaker 1: think that they're the best tryptonite to that. So yeah, 529 00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:19,520 Speaker 1: seeing if that potential matchup could work, it'll be fun. 530 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:22,000 Speaker 1: And then also seeing with Seattle getting back in this thing. 531 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:24,480 Speaker 1: You know, how long ago was it that we saw 532 00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:27,320 Speaker 1: Earl Thomas being carted off the field and you know 533 00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:30,720 Speaker 1: in the gesture in the direction everything was going there 534 00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:33,480 Speaker 1: and Pete Carroll Rallied the troop once again. And now 535 00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:34,840 Speaker 1: they have a good matchup now at a T and 536 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:36,480 Speaker 1: T Stadium. It's gonna be a fun weekend of games 537 00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:39,680 Speaker 1: for sure. Yeah, playoff tested quarterback in Russell Wilson and 538 00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:42,840 Speaker 1: and the Rams team. Just to mention them one last time, Uh, 539 00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:45,480 Speaker 1: they got some playoff experience. Last year. Didn't go the 540 00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:47,200 Speaker 1: way they wanted. They lost a home game to the 541 00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:50,240 Speaker 1: Atlanta Falcons in the playoffs. But they're back now and 542 00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:52,760 Speaker 1: and sometimes getting that that one year with a young 543 00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:55,840 Speaker 1: quarterback Jared golf all that you get that that first 544 00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:59,119 Speaker 1: taste of the playoffs under your belt, so to speak. 545 00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:00,960 Speaker 1: It can it can lead to better things. I want 546 00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:04,800 Speaker 1: to see that defense dominate though. I'm with you. I'm 547 00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:08,040 Speaker 1: with you that the personnel on that Rams defense, you 548 00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:10,080 Speaker 1: would think it would play better and it has the 549 00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:12,560 Speaker 1: potential to. Maybe they rise up in January and they 550 00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:15,359 Speaker 1: and they get it going. But but right now, when 551 00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:19,080 Speaker 1: you're talking defense in the NFC, you're talking Seahawks, Cowboys 552 00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:21,199 Speaker 1: and Bears. Those are those are the defenses that are 553 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:23,199 Speaker 1: coming to this party. Yeah, it's just funny because I 554 00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:24,919 Speaker 1: just I thought the potential was there to hit them 555 00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:27,640 Speaker 1: have like a you know, Danver Broncos two fifteen type 556 00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:30,639 Speaker 1: season hasn't come together yet, but hey, playoff football is 557 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:33,040 Speaker 1: different football. We'll see if they can rally it. It 558 00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:35,440 Speaker 1: should be a fun couple of weeks here in uh 559 00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:37,800 Speaker 1: in the NFL. But with that, we are going to 560 00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:40,160 Speaker 1: call it a wrap on this edition of Packers Unscripted 561 00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:43,479 Speaker 1: and we will sign off until a new head coaches 562 00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:47,439 Speaker 1: on board here at sixty Lombardi Avenue. With that, you 563 00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:50,560 Speaker 1: can follow him on Twitter at west Hod I'm at 564 00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:53,800 Speaker 1: Mike Spofford at Packers is still the team account. Thank 565 00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:56,239 Speaker 1: you for tuning in. Happy New Year everybody. We will 566 00:26:56,280 --> 00:27:01,920 Speaker 1: see you next time. Don't