WEBVTT - You're Lucky To Have Me with Bob the Drag Queen 0:00:01.000 --> 0:00:07.120 Hi Catherine. Hi everybody. It's Chelsea and this is dear Chelsea. 0:00:08.720 --> 0:00:11.840 How are you doing, Catherine? I'm doing well. Um, a 0:00:11.880 --> 0:00:16.680 little bit stressed, like pre stressed having to do a 0:00:16.680 --> 0:00:18.480 lot in a short amount of time because I'm going 0:00:18.520 --> 0:00:22.000 on a little trip to the British Vision Islands, which 0:00:22.040 --> 0:00:25.200 I'm very excited. Where are you going? Which one we 0:00:25.239 --> 0:00:28.240 are going? So my mom's having a significant birthday. So 0:00:28.320 --> 0:00:32.000 my sister got a yacht for everyone, well for her 0:00:32.040 --> 0:00:34.560 and my mom, and then invited me and my other 0:00:34.600 --> 0:00:37.440 sisters in law and we're all going to go just 0:00:37.479 --> 0:00:40.600 have a girl's trip in the British Virgin Islands and 0:00:40.680 --> 0:00:44.240 like hop from place to place, hop from island to island. 0:00:44.320 --> 0:00:47.960 It seems truly crazy, but I'm so excited about it. 0:00:48.640 --> 0:00:53.920 Oh that's awesome. That's a good shrip. So there's a 0:00:53.920 --> 0:00:56.120 lot of work that has to get done before that happens. 0:00:56.160 --> 0:00:58.320 You know. It's sort of like before you take a trip, 0:00:58.320 --> 0:01:00.200 there's twice the work, and after you get back there's 0:01:00.200 --> 0:01:02.000 twice the work. But like it's worth it, so you 0:01:02.000 --> 0:01:05.320 can get away and took up some sun and and 0:01:05.400 --> 0:01:09.440 focus on being on a yacht more importantly, exactly we are. 0:01:09.560 --> 0:01:11.319 I wanted to say that I just recently got my 0:01:11.360 --> 0:01:14.600 clean bill of health from my doctor after my after 0:01:14.640 --> 0:01:16.920 my episode, which actually I've never even talked about. I 0:01:16.920 --> 0:01:19.559 don't think have we talked about it yet? No, we haven't. 0:01:19.600 --> 0:01:21.080 I was like, should I ask, because I didn't know 0:01:21.120 --> 0:01:22.679 if you wanted to talk about it, Like, oh, yeah, yeah, 0:01:22.720 --> 0:01:26.280 I'll talk about of course, to keep any information to myself, 0:01:26.840 --> 0:01:28.320 I was in Yeah. I was doing one of my 0:01:28.360 --> 0:01:31.039 shows in Seattle, which were awesome. By the way, I 0:01:31.160 --> 0:01:34.679 love Seattle's crowds. Thank you guys for coming, and anyone 0:01:34.680 --> 0:01:36.720 who wants tickets to any of my shows. The tour 0:01:36.840 --> 0:01:39.240 is continuing. It's called Vaccinated and Horny. You can get 0:01:39.280 --> 0:01:41.600 all your tickets to Chelsea Handler dot com and I'm 0:01:41.640 --> 0:01:43.880 coming to a city near you. We added a lot 0:01:43.880 --> 0:01:45.600 of second shows. We have a late show with Will 0:01:45.680 --> 0:01:49.120 Churn in Los Angeles, hunting to New York, Santa Rosa, California, 0:01:49.800 --> 0:01:53.720 San Francisco, d C. All of the places. Anyway, I 0:01:53.800 --> 0:01:56.120 walked on stage. It was my second night in Seattle. 0:01:56.200 --> 0:01:59.320 I walked on stage in front of my four thousand 0:01:59.360 --> 0:02:02.680 fans that were there in the audience, and I was 0:02:02.720 --> 0:02:05.840 like it's like my chest was really tight. And I 0:02:05.880 --> 0:02:08.360 was like, I don't suffer from indigestion or anything like that, 0:02:08.400 --> 0:02:10.160 Like I've never had a heartburn or anything. So I 0:02:10.200 --> 0:02:11.840 was like, oh, I must have because I had a 0:02:11.840 --> 0:02:16.120 really heavy French meal for lunch. Okay, And and then 0:02:16.120 --> 0:02:18.480 I was like, oh, this must be nerves. I don't know, 0:02:18.600 --> 0:02:21.520 like sometimes you get nervous and sometimes you don't. And 0:02:22.080 --> 0:02:23.760 I was on stage and I was like, okay, well 0:02:23.760 --> 0:02:25.920 it's not going away. But it wasn't so bad that 0:02:25.960 --> 0:02:28.160 I had to like stop performing. I was like, okay, 0:02:28.160 --> 0:02:32.040 well this is just uncomfortable slightly. So I get off stage. 0:02:32.080 --> 0:02:33.360 And I had a bunch of friends there, and my 0:02:33.400 --> 0:02:36.840 sister was there, Simone, my agent was there, Nick and 0:02:37.240 --> 0:02:40.200 my girlfriend Jamie, a bunch of people and we were 0:02:40.200 --> 0:02:42.919 all going to the restaurant or bar and my hotel 0:02:42.960 --> 0:02:45.720 for an after party. And I I couldn't. I was like, 0:02:45.840 --> 0:02:47.720 and if I can't go to a party, obviously something 0:02:47.840 --> 0:02:51.480 that and I, especially when it's about me and I U. 0:02:52.040 --> 0:02:54.040 I was like, oh no, this doesn't feel right. I 0:02:54.120 --> 0:02:57.079 kept taking toms and whatever, and then in the morning 0:02:57.080 --> 0:02:59.120 we were headed to Portland, where I was supposed to 0:02:59.160 --> 0:03:02.200 perform that night, and I talked to the hotel doctor 0:03:02.280 --> 0:03:04.000 and I talked to my own doctor from l A 0:03:04.480 --> 0:03:06.360 and they were like, oh, with your history of your father. 0:03:06.480 --> 0:03:08.120 My dad had a heart attack when he was fifty. 0:03:08.200 --> 0:03:11.239 He had quintumble bypass surgery when he was sixty something, 0:03:11.800 --> 0:03:13.960 so they were like, with your history, you have got 0:03:14.000 --> 0:03:15.640 to go straight and get an e k G and 0:03:15.639 --> 0:03:18.080 find out if everything's okay with your heart. So I 0:03:18.120 --> 0:03:20.120 went to this hospital in Seattle and they did an 0:03:20.120 --> 0:03:23.480 e KG and they tested my tremonal levels, which is 0:03:23.520 --> 0:03:25.639 an indicator of whether or not something happened with your heart, 0:03:26.240 --> 0:03:29.880 and my tremonian levels were slightly elevated, which you know, said, oh, 0:03:29.960 --> 0:03:33.880 something happened. Then irving A's off. My manager got involved 0:03:33.880 --> 0:03:35.000 and he's like, you have to go to the heart 0:03:35.000 --> 0:03:37.760 cardiology unit, and you have to go to different hospitals. 0:03:37.760 --> 0:03:39.160 So they moved me out of that hospital. I went 0:03:39.200 --> 0:03:41.280 to another hospital where I had the best doctor. He 0:03:41.400 --> 0:03:45.320 was awesome, so great, and they did my e k G. 0:03:45.480 --> 0:03:48.000 But e KG is a snapshot of what's happening, so 0:03:48.040 --> 0:03:50.560 if you had a heart injury, it won't show up. 0:03:51.000 --> 0:03:53.280 So then they did an echo cardiogram and on the 0:03:53.320 --> 0:03:56.600 echo cardiogram, they could see that there was something wasn't 0:03:56.800 --> 0:04:00.280 working in my heart, like it wasn't pumping all out. 0:04:00.360 --> 0:04:02.480 It was pumping, but there was like a little area 0:04:02.560 --> 0:04:04.760 that wasn't going in and out with your breath and 0:04:04.760 --> 0:04:08.920 your heart. So then they did a catharitization to go 0:04:09.000 --> 0:04:11.120 in to see if there's blockages to see because I 0:04:11.160 --> 0:04:14.760 have high cholesterol, which is genetic, so you know, you 0:04:14.800 --> 0:04:17.120 could have plaque and that there could have been like 0:04:17.200 --> 0:04:19.560 a plaque that's a piece of plaque that chipped, or 0:04:19.600 --> 0:04:21.760 there could have been a blockage. And so they went 0:04:21.800 --> 0:04:24.160 and gave me a catholization, which of course I was 0:04:24.200 --> 0:04:26.880 excited about because you know, they give you morphine for that. 0:04:27.279 --> 0:04:29.560 And he was like, oh, your heart is so healthy. 0:04:29.640 --> 0:04:32.279 He's like everything's pumping, you have no blockages, you have nothing. 0:04:32.720 --> 0:04:35.720 And I was like, okay, So what happened? And then 0:04:35.720 --> 0:04:37.560 I was like, oh my god, did I have a 0:04:37.600 --> 0:04:42.440 panic attack? Like that's even more unlike me. You know, 0:04:43.040 --> 0:04:45.119 I went from going, wait, did I have a heart attack, 0:04:45.120 --> 0:04:47.359 which would be so scary too, Did I have a 0:04:47.360 --> 0:04:50.880 panic attack? But no, I had neither. What happened was 0:04:51.680 --> 0:04:55.160 it's called a cardio myopathy, which means that there was 0:04:55.200 --> 0:04:59.240 an adrenaline shot and which I think was me actually 0:04:59.279 --> 0:05:02.880 walking out on stage that night for whatever reason. And well, 0:05:02.920 --> 0:05:05.680 there's a build up, an accumulation of stress. I think 0:05:05.720 --> 0:05:08.360 I'm not stressed out, but I learned that apparently I am, 0:05:08.400 --> 0:05:10.679 and then I internalize it all, which I blame therapy 0:05:10.720 --> 0:05:13.159 on because before I used to just go off on people. 0:05:13.240 --> 0:05:15.920 Now I keep it to myself. But now I'm fucking suffering, 0:05:16.320 --> 0:05:17.719 so I may have to just go back to my 0:05:17.720 --> 0:05:21.719 old ways. But it's called cardiomyopathy, and it's rising in women, 0:05:21.839 --> 0:05:23.440 like in the last couple of years. I've been sent 0:05:23.480 --> 0:05:25.200 a couple of articles to say, in the last couple 0:05:25.200 --> 0:05:28.040 of years, women between the ages of forty and fifty 0:05:28.040 --> 0:05:30.760 are they're identifying this more and more. And I don't 0:05:30.760 --> 0:05:33.760 know if it's a product of our hearts fighting COVID 0:05:33.880 --> 0:05:37.120 because of the immunity that we're fighting constantly being exposed 0:05:37.400 --> 0:05:40.279 to COVID, or if there's a relationship to the COVID 0:05:40.600 --> 0:05:42.760 right or just the stress all of our bodies have 0:05:42.800 --> 0:05:45.400 been under for the last two years and the toll 0:05:45.480 --> 0:05:48.159 that takes on our immune systems and our hearts it's 0:05:48.160 --> 0:05:51.120 definitely something that's happening. So it's like it mimics what 0:05:51.200 --> 0:05:53.640 would be a minor heart attack, but it's not an attack. 0:05:53.720 --> 0:05:57.280 It's like your heart was bruised. So basically there was 0:05:57.320 --> 0:06:00.800 a section of my heart that wasn't pulsating and contracting 0:06:00.880 --> 0:06:03.520 with along with the rest of it that was. And 0:06:03.760 --> 0:06:05.560 you know, you wouldn't be able to even notice that 0:06:05.640 --> 0:06:07.200 if I was looking at it, but my doctor walked 0:06:07.240 --> 0:06:09.119 me through and we were all looking at my sister. 0:06:09.279 --> 0:06:12.240 Joe was there. He had flown in, so it was scary, 0:06:12.440 --> 0:06:14.440 but then I was very relieved to find out that 0:06:14.480 --> 0:06:18.080 I'm just stressed out and I couldn't exercise for a week, 0:06:18.120 --> 0:06:20.719 which was music to my ears, I mean, minus the 0:06:20.720 --> 0:06:24.080 skiing part, and to take it easy and to really 0:06:24.080 --> 0:06:26.080 identify the things that stress you out that you think 0:06:26.120 --> 0:06:28.560 are not stressing you out. But I just went and 0:06:28.560 --> 0:06:30.159 saw him from my follow up visit and I have 0:06:30.200 --> 0:06:32.320 a clean bill of health and I healed and my 0:06:32.360 --> 0:06:35.359 heart was no longer bruised. Excellent. I'm so glad to 0:06:35.400 --> 0:06:38.440 hear that, Yeah, because I knew something was going on 0:06:39.279 --> 0:06:42.440 before you post it, and I was like, if she's awake, 0:06:42.560 --> 0:06:44.680 she's going to post. Of course. You know, when I 0:06:44.720 --> 0:06:46.880 heard that you had a medical emergency, I was like 0:06:47.000 --> 0:06:49.400 terrified that there was a skiing accident or something like that. 0:06:49.560 --> 0:06:52.000 So I'm I was glad that you posted, but like 0:06:52.080 --> 0:06:53.880 I could see you were kind of shaken. You know. 0:06:54.000 --> 0:06:56.920 I think it's really cool that you're that open with Hey, 0:06:57.040 --> 0:06:59.240 here is like the not as exciting parts of life. 0:06:59.240 --> 0:07:01.559 Things are gonna keep going and everything's gond me. Okay, 0:07:01.600 --> 0:07:03.599 you should have seen my sister Simone. She's like, wait 0:07:03.600 --> 0:07:05.880 a second, because at first we thought maybe I had 0:07:05.960 --> 0:07:08.040 had a heart attack, like a heart attack, and I 0:07:08.080 --> 0:07:10.800 was like what I was like, and Sman goes, oh 0:07:10.840 --> 0:07:13.200 my god, you're she's the healthiest one in our family. 0:07:13.720 --> 0:07:16.880 We all need to get echo cardiograms. We're all fat 0:07:16.960 --> 0:07:19.600 and out of shape. And she's, you know, she's like, 0:07:19.680 --> 0:07:21.880 if she's sick, then the rest of us are screwed. 0:07:22.280 --> 0:07:26.120 But yeah, So luckily it wasn't a major deal. Wasn't 0:07:26.120 --> 0:07:27.760 a big deal, but I did have to cancel a 0:07:27.800 --> 0:07:30.720 lot of shows. Well those shows that weekend, and which 0:07:30.760 --> 0:07:33.560 are you know, obviously we're rescheduled, but so yes, to 0:07:33.640 --> 0:07:36.680 let everybody know that's what that's the story. Well, and 0:07:36.720 --> 0:07:39.000 I think it's really important to be an advocate for 0:07:39.040 --> 0:07:41.760 your health. Like if you have stuff going on, get 0:07:41.840 --> 0:07:44.600 it checked out. So great that you had people in 0:07:44.640 --> 0:07:46.520 your life that were like, no, no, go to the doctor. 0:07:46.640 --> 0:07:50.000 Talk to the doctor, get it dealt with, because that's 0:07:50.040 --> 0:07:53.080 so so important. Yeah right, I know, because I was like, 0:07:53.320 --> 0:07:55.760 I'm fine, I'm fine. But then I just thought, you 0:07:55.760 --> 0:07:58.960 know what, with my history, my father's history, I should 0:07:59.040 --> 0:08:01.000 listen to the doctors. Us I'm not. I kept saying, 0:08:01.040 --> 0:08:02.800 I'm forty two and forty two, and I'm like, you're 0:08:02.800 --> 0:08:07.560 not forty two, And I was like, oh, ship, well, 0:08:07.600 --> 0:08:10.240 I'm really really glad you're on the mend. We have 0:08:10.320 --> 0:08:15.360 a very excited guest today, Pretty Funny. You know him 0:08:15.400 --> 0:08:18.800 as the season eight winner of RuPaul's Drag Race and 0:08:18.840 --> 0:08:22.239 from the hit show We're Here on HBO. He's currently 0:08:22.240 --> 0:08:24.920 headlining a comedy club tour and he also has a 0:08:24.960 --> 0:08:29.760 podcast called Sibling Rivalry with Mona Exchange, and they will 0:08:29.800 --> 0:08:33.000 be on tour together this summer. Please welcome Bob the 0:08:33.120 --> 0:08:39.120 Drag Queen. Oh yeah, hi Bob. Hi there, Hi Bob, 0:08:39.240 --> 0:08:42.319 how are you. I'm well. Good morning to you, miss Handler, 0:08:42.559 --> 0:08:48.080 Good morning to you. Where are you. I'm in Hollywood, 0:08:48.120 --> 0:08:51.360 California in my apartment. Oh my goodness, you are clearly 0:08:51.400 --> 0:08:55.560 not in Hollywood. Where are you? Well with climate change, 0:08:55.559 --> 0:08:58.640 you'll never know. This could be Hollywood, You're like, I'm 0:08:58.679 --> 0:09:01.520 fully in like and this is you in South Africa 0:09:01.640 --> 0:09:05.680 right now. I'm in actually Whistler, Canada, where it is 0:09:05.760 --> 0:09:08.800 pissing rain. Yeah. I saw the video of you with 0:09:08.880 --> 0:09:12.520 the Canadian American flag over your boobs. My nipples. Yes, 0:09:12.600 --> 0:09:14.360 I had to cover up my nipples because I'm a 0:09:14.400 --> 0:09:18.520 decent person. Don't you think it's a bunch of horseship 0:09:18.600 --> 0:09:20.760 that men can walk around with their nipples out, yet 0:09:20.840 --> 0:09:23.800 women have to cover them up and we provide food. 0:09:24.559 --> 0:09:26.560 I agree, I'm fully for the nipple. You know New 0:09:26.640 --> 0:09:28.840 York State, it's one of those places where anyone can 0:09:28.880 --> 0:09:33.040 be topless anywhere in public. There's no laws regarding toplessness 0:09:33.200 --> 0:09:35.839 in New York City. It's a really interesting decommended called 0:09:35.840 --> 0:09:38.679 topless shock syndrome. There's this photographer that used to go 0:09:38.720 --> 0:09:40.480 around New York City and she would just photograph people 0:09:40.520 --> 0:09:42.720 with her shirt off, and she got arrested like four times, 0:09:42.840 --> 0:09:45.400 but then sued the city in a one well, good 0:09:45.400 --> 0:09:48.480 for her exactly. That's how that's time well spent suing 0:09:48.480 --> 0:09:51.200 the city to show your nipples. I like that, Bob. 0:09:51.320 --> 0:09:55.280 First of all, congratulations on winning season eight of RuPaul's 0:09:55.320 --> 0:09:58.319 Drag Race A big feet right, that must have been 0:09:58.360 --> 0:10:02.839 really really exciting feet on, I got dragged me. I 0:10:03.000 --> 0:10:07.280 never getting personal today. And I know you grew up 0:10:07.280 --> 0:10:10.840 in the South, right, Yeah. I grew up in Georgia, Alabama, 0:10:10.840 --> 0:10:14.600 and Mississippi, mostly Georgia, but I was born in Columbus, Georgia, 0:10:14.720 --> 0:10:17.240 and then I later moved to Alabama, Misissippi, where I 0:10:17.280 --> 0:10:21.559 ended up nestling down in Atlanta, Georgia before going to 0:10:21.760 --> 0:10:24.840 New York City for about twelve years. And uh, what 0:10:24.920 --> 0:10:28.559 was that experience like for somebody like you who identifies 0:10:28.559 --> 0:10:31.880 as non binary? Who is? Were you a drag queen 0:10:31.920 --> 0:10:34.240 when you were? I mean, when did you start doing that? No? 0:10:34.320 --> 0:10:36.640 I didn't get infected with drag until I moved to 0:10:36.679 --> 0:10:40.600 New York City much later in life, which was really 0:10:41.440 --> 0:10:43.720 I was actually surrounded by drag way before I ever 0:10:43.800 --> 0:10:46.000 moved to New York City. My mom used to run 0:10:46.000 --> 0:10:49.080 a drag bar called Sensations in Columbus, Georgia, and I 0:10:49.160 --> 0:10:51.320 have a queer uncle who I used to hang out with. 0:10:51.640 --> 0:10:53.719 I would hang out in his apartment and watch Too 0:10:53.760 --> 0:10:57.280 Wong food while he cooked me food. He's made these 0:10:57.360 --> 0:10:59.760 great baked apples. I need to get their recipe from him. 0:10:59.800 --> 0:11:01.800 But then something about you know, mood New York City. 0:11:01.800 --> 0:11:04.120 I saw drag on TV again and I was an 0:11:04.120 --> 0:11:05.400 adult now, and I was like, I'm gonna give it 0:11:05.440 --> 0:11:07.280 a shot. But as far as growing up in the 0:11:07.320 --> 0:11:09.920 South being non binary, you know, I hadn't really discovered 0:11:09.920 --> 0:11:12.920 the the notion of exploring your gender until I moved 0:11:12.960 --> 0:11:14.440 to New York City and started working in the New 0:11:14.520 --> 0:11:16.079 York City night life scene, and I was like, oh, wow, 0:11:16.120 --> 0:11:19.280 you can. Actually I didn't realize you could. You you 0:11:19.320 --> 0:11:21.840 didn't have to be what you were, you know, given 0:11:22.080 --> 0:11:25.840 at birth. What was attractive to you about drag? What 0:11:25.960 --> 0:11:28.200 drew you into that? What do you love about it? 0:11:28.240 --> 0:11:30.000 And what made you want to be a part of 0:11:30.040 --> 0:11:33.559 that world? Well it's so glamorous, right, It's like it's glamor. 0:11:33.920 --> 0:11:38.480 Is is humor, is camp, it is prestige. You get 0:11:38.520 --> 0:11:40.720 to be powerful when you don't actually have a position 0:11:40.720 --> 0:11:43.640 of power. But in this bar, in this place, you're 0:11:43.679 --> 0:11:46.120 a queen. You walk into it. You know, on the outside, 0:11:46.200 --> 0:11:47.880 you feel like you're nothing. You took the train to 0:11:47.920 --> 0:11:51.079 get to work today, you know, you're you're snowing outside, 0:11:51.120 --> 0:11:53.319 and and you worked a job as a waiter all 0:11:53.400 --> 0:11:57.120 days at the Jekylin High club in Midtown Manhattan. And 0:11:57.160 --> 0:11:59.400 then you get to this place and you're met your royalty. 0:11:59.440 --> 0:12:02.320 Everyone's offering them bout you drinks, And I mean, what 0:12:02.400 --> 0:12:04.720 could be more appealing than that? You get to literally 0:12:04.720 --> 0:12:07.280 be roalthy for for a moment, and you well, I 0:12:07.320 --> 0:12:09.679 mean obviously that your mom running a club like that 0:12:09.720 --> 0:12:12.360 in Georgia must have had a big impact for you, right, 0:12:12.480 --> 0:12:15.160 I mean that must have been part of the equation. Yeah, 0:12:15.200 --> 0:12:17.960 I reckon, maybe it must have had some impact. I mean, 0:12:18.240 --> 0:12:20.120 I'm not a queer trailways in my family. I'm not 0:12:20.120 --> 0:12:22.000 the first queer in my family. I probably won't be 0:12:22.040 --> 0:12:24.720 the last. My mom was queer, my uncle's queer. I 0:12:24.760 --> 0:12:26.720 have a queer cousin who older than I am. So 0:12:26.800 --> 0:12:28.920 I was just one of many. So it wasn't like 0:12:28.960 --> 0:12:30.640 I was one of those folks like you guys don't 0:12:30.679 --> 0:12:33.840 get me. It was like they get me. Theyfully understand 0:12:34.080 --> 0:12:37.240 because they were very much like me. But you know, 0:12:37.840 --> 0:12:39.640 I'm sure that my mom had some sort of impact 0:12:39.640 --> 0:12:41.800 of school. But I was very afraid of drag queens 0:12:41.800 --> 0:12:43.040 when I was younger. My mom had a frien named 0:12:43.000 --> 0:12:45.360 Sidney who told me never to trust drag queens and 0:12:45.400 --> 0:12:47.000 told me that they were dangerous and told me that 0:12:47.000 --> 0:12:48.760 they would he got He got shot by a drag 0:12:48.840 --> 0:12:52.280 queen one time. It was like, drag queens are dangerous, 0:12:52.280 --> 0:12:53.920 don't trust them. And I was like, well, I believe 0:12:53.960 --> 0:12:56.400 you. You You got shot. You have the wounds to prove it. Yeah. 0:12:56.480 --> 0:12:58.240 I think I was probably felt that way when I 0:12:58.280 --> 0:13:00.719 was younger too, and wasn't as warms. You know, I 0:13:00.800 --> 0:13:03.720 think anything that's so different from what what the norm is. 0:13:03.840 --> 0:13:06.520 You know, we're just raised to identify with and be 0:13:06.600 --> 0:13:09.440 comfortable with what we know. So unless you're exposed to that, 0:13:09.520 --> 0:13:11.839 it would be like, oh, oh, this is something new, 0:13:11.920 --> 0:13:14.520 and you have to be very open minded to be 0:13:14.640 --> 0:13:17.040 interested in something new. Yeah. I would go as far 0:13:17.040 --> 0:13:19.360 as to say most drag queens have not shot someone. 0:13:19.679 --> 0:13:23.200 I don't have the National Bureau Statistics information on my side, 0:13:23.480 --> 0:13:25.840 but I'm willing to bet the whole farm. I can't 0:13:25.840 --> 0:13:30.520 speak for myself. No, you can't. You certainly cannot speak 0:13:30.559 --> 0:13:34.680 for yourself. It's definitely not. Also, your show on HBO 0:13:34.800 --> 0:13:39.800 We're Here is awesome. Congratulations on that too. What was 0:13:39.800 --> 0:13:42.880 your experience like on RuPaul's Drag Race though, I mean, 0:13:43.000 --> 0:13:44.600 was that a long time dream for you to be 0:13:44.679 --> 0:13:47.080 on that show in the first place? I would imagine, 0:13:47.120 --> 0:13:49.960 so yeah, I mean I would say definitely, um, a 0:13:50.040 --> 0:13:52.200 seven year dream at a time. You know, I started 0:13:52.200 --> 0:13:54.080 doing drag because I saw it on Repaul's Drag Race, 0:13:54.080 --> 0:13:56.000 and I remember being like, this looks like so much fun, 0:13:56.120 --> 0:13:58.040 Like I want to do this, this seems amazing, and 0:13:58.080 --> 0:14:00.520 then I really immerged myself in the scene. But I 0:14:00.520 --> 0:14:03.360 didn't really think about getting on Drag Race right away. 0:14:03.400 --> 0:14:06.000 At first. It was just me in nightlife, just like 0:14:06.080 --> 0:14:09.200 doing drag and having fun. It wasn't really centered around 0:14:09.280 --> 0:14:12.200 trying to get on Drag Race until I can't remember. 0:14:12.240 --> 0:14:14.480 I think season four was the first time I auditioned. 0:14:14.520 --> 0:14:16.160 My friend was like, you got audition for this show, 0:14:16.200 --> 0:14:17.560 and I was like, you know, I'll do it. And 0:14:17.559 --> 0:14:21.240 I auditioned four times before getting cast, and I would 0:14:21.240 --> 0:14:23.600 say it didn't feel like I could actually get cast 0:14:23.640 --> 0:14:25.520 on the show until like my third time audition. The 0:14:25.560 --> 0:14:27.040 first two times I was like, I'm just doing this 0:14:27.080 --> 0:14:29.480 for fun, why not? But by the third time I 0:14:29.520 --> 0:14:32.440 was like, they would be lucky to have me on 0:14:32.520 --> 0:14:35.320 their show. Quite frankly, yeah, I think that's a good 0:14:35.360 --> 0:14:38.400 attitude for us all to take into whatever endeavor we're 0:14:38.440 --> 0:14:41.120 about to dive into, is that people are lucky to 0:14:41.160 --> 0:14:44.280 have us, because the attitude does sail you a long way. 0:14:44.600 --> 0:14:47.640 It really does. Actually, posted in my in my audition tape, 0:14:47.680 --> 0:14:50.000 I said, you know, just you guys know, if you 0:14:50.120 --> 0:14:52.560 cast me, I will win, but also winning drag Race 0:14:52.640 --> 0:14:55.040 won't be the biggest thing I do. And then they 0:14:55.120 --> 0:14:56.960 must have been like, this bit really thinks she is 0:14:57.040 --> 0:14:59.840 some fucking body. I was like, I'm gonna win this show. 0:15:00.200 --> 0:15:02.480 I'm gonna do even bigger things. Heney, this is a 0:15:02.520 --> 0:15:05.680 stepping stone for me, darling, And they were probably like, Wow, 0:15:05.720 --> 0:15:08.320 this bitch is really either completely out of her mind 0:15:08.480 --> 0:15:11.160 or completely right. And it turns out I was right 0:15:11.480 --> 0:15:12.920 and maybe a little bit out of my mind too, 0:15:12.960 --> 0:15:15.360 maybe maybe a little bit of both. Okay, we'll be 0:15:15.440 --> 0:15:22.160 right back. What do you think Because I know a 0:15:22.160 --> 0:15:24.520 lot of people like me who don't have a ton 0:15:24.560 --> 0:15:27.880 of experience other than watching it on television with drag Personally, 0:15:28.120 --> 0:15:31.520 what do you think some of people's kind of uneducated 0:15:31.600 --> 0:15:37.640 misconceptions are. So I live in this really liberal bubble, right, 0:15:37.800 --> 0:15:41.600 Like I forget that most of the world is not 0:15:41.680 --> 0:15:44.440 really up to speed with or most of America because 0:15:44.480 --> 0:15:45.720 I don't know what's going to the rest of the world. 0:15:45.720 --> 0:15:47.880 It's not up to speed with queer culture the way 0:15:47.920 --> 0:15:52.000 that I am. And it honestly kind of blows my mind. Like, so, 0:15:52.680 --> 0:15:55.160 I just did this ad for Verizon and I also 0:15:55.200 --> 0:15:57.240 didn't and of course I'm on a show on HBO, 0:15:57.800 --> 0:16:03.880 And when HBO posted our trailer the the comments, it 0:16:04.000 --> 0:16:05.840 blew my mind. I was like, are there people are 0:16:05.840 --> 0:16:08.520 really out here like this? It was like gross, get 0:16:08.560 --> 0:16:15.160 the fag off my screen, mental illness, sick, gross, disgusting, nasty, 0:16:15.320 --> 0:16:17.520 And I was like, is that really? Is it really 0:16:17.520 --> 0:16:19.160 how a lot of the world is a lot of 0:16:19.200 --> 0:16:22.320 America is or also know they're just a really vocal minority, 0:16:22.360 --> 0:16:25.160 and that's also a possibility as well. It really like 0:16:25.240 --> 0:16:27.240 blew my mind. People were like saying this stuff. So 0:16:27.280 --> 0:16:28.840 then I was like, I don't know, I need to 0:16:28.880 --> 0:16:30.560 post this on my page so that people can like, 0:16:30.600 --> 0:16:33.480 we can get some positive affirmation. So I don't want 0:16:33.520 --> 0:16:35.520 some young queer seeing that and being like, oh, this 0:16:35.560 --> 0:16:37.280 is what the world thinks of me. Can I remember 0:16:37.320 --> 0:16:38.960 having that thought for a long time, thinking to myself, 0:16:39.000 --> 0:16:40.800 this is what the world thinks of me. Okay, nice 0:16:40.840 --> 0:16:42.480 to know where I stand. So you just kind of 0:16:42.480 --> 0:16:44.160 walking too world with a shitty attitude all the time 0:16:44.160 --> 0:16:47.280 because you just think everyone's against you. Yeah, and that 0:16:47.440 --> 0:16:51.560 this is definitely a self defeating prophecy, right, which can 0:16:51.640 --> 0:16:55.080 become a self fulfilling prophecy when you have that defeatist 0:16:55.080 --> 0:16:59.240 attitude and you think that that small group's opinion embody 0:16:59.480 --> 0:17:04.320 a large your opinion of you exactly exactly, So luckily 0:17:04.400 --> 0:17:06.040 I was. I mean, but I've also been able to 0:17:06.080 --> 0:17:08.280 travel to these towns and people think that when you're 0:17:08.280 --> 0:17:10.040 in small town America, it's just going to be a 0:17:10.119 --> 0:17:12.760 bunch of like Clue Klux Klan members coming to your 0:17:13.040 --> 0:17:16.720 hotel to throw you out. But in actuality, very few 0:17:17.160 --> 0:17:21.560 almost no clan members. Um, I can't confirm who is 0:17:21.640 --> 0:17:23.119 you know. They don't wear their hoods and out in 0:17:23.160 --> 0:17:25.119 public anymore these days. They're really not so proud of 0:17:25.160 --> 0:17:28.560 themselves anymore, which I love that we've shamed clans members 0:17:28.600 --> 0:17:31.119 into like not being proud of their silly little dresses. Like, 0:17:31.200 --> 0:17:32.560 isn't the point that I get to go out of 0:17:32.600 --> 0:17:35.680 my dress and be like yes, but the clan members 0:17:35.720 --> 0:17:38.000 have to hide their dresses. I've never even thought about that, 0:17:38.080 --> 0:17:41.360 but like clad members have to hide there there. It's 0:17:41.400 --> 0:17:43.160 like they're they're going back to what I was doing. 0:17:43.240 --> 0:17:45.920 Now they're hiding their dresses in their closets so no 0:17:46.000 --> 0:17:49.120 one knows they're nasty, racist biggest I love that. Yeah, 0:17:49.160 --> 0:17:51.320 we'll think about how pissed off they are. They're like great, 0:17:51.400 --> 0:17:53.240 all these drag queens get to go out and dress 0:17:53.280 --> 0:17:55.760 off like and RuPaul's Drag Race is one of the 0:17:55.800 --> 0:17:57.960 most popular shows on television. And we're not allowed to 0:17:58.000 --> 0:17:59.600 wear our white hoods out when we want to go 0:17:59.720 --> 0:18:02.680 show people what we're made of. This is bull I 0:18:03.240 --> 0:18:05.520 imagine they're still their own dread like. I think he's 0:18:05.560 --> 0:18:07.920 so the stressed to the fucking nie. Look at the 0:18:08.119 --> 0:18:11.800 craftsmanship on this goddamn garment, and I put sequels on 0:18:11.880 --> 0:18:15.160 my hood. Now I can't show anyone it is camp clans. 0:18:16.359 --> 0:18:18.400 You look at the clans member outfit they're just it's 0:18:18.440 --> 0:18:21.720 so campy. It's so campy. It's like, you guys could 0:18:21.760 --> 0:18:24.880 if you could have put this craftsmanship in artistry into 0:18:24.960 --> 0:18:27.800 something positive, you could have really been big. It's also 0:18:27.920 --> 0:18:31.359 that outfit. It's really taking yourself too seriously, you know 0:18:31.400 --> 0:18:33.360 what I mean. They're not having fun with that at all. 0:18:33.920 --> 0:18:36.720 I mean, there's nothing creative, there's nothing. It's just like 0:18:36.880 --> 0:18:40.520 it's It's another example of why those people are so 0:18:40.680 --> 0:18:44.240 out to lunch because they think that that's a good look, 0:18:44.440 --> 0:18:46.040 you know what I mean, and that they go for 0:18:46.119 --> 0:18:48.440 a rebranding. They can go for a rebranding, maybe bringing 0:18:48.560 --> 0:18:51.480 Christian Ciriano to just kind of look over the outfits 0:18:51.520 --> 0:18:53.600 and be like, I just have a couple of notes. 0:18:53.800 --> 0:18:55.800