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Speaker 1: What is Up? Mets fans, Welcome back to another episode

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Speaker 1: of the Mets Up Podcast. We have actually a shocking

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Speaker 1: amount to talk about in the middle of January, end

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Speaker 1: of January here, and it's not just about James and

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Speaker 1: his pink curtains behind him in his hotel room in Thailand.

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Speaker 1: This is a very international episode of Mess Up Podcast.

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Speaker 1: We've got Pete Alonzo news, We've got Adbert Auzala signing,

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Speaker 1: We've got new Mets jerseys, we have Steve Cohen making

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Speaker 1: comments on Pete alonso amazing day. There was a lot

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Speaker 1: of really cool stuff that went on there that we

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Speaker 1: want to talk about as well, so we'll give you

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Speaker 1: guys a little recap here on this episode. Thank you

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Speaker 1: First off, James, how are you feeling out there in Thailand?

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Speaker 2: Feeling wonderful. Has been a very nice trip so far,

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Speaker 2: beautiful beaches, really good food, and you guys know, I

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Speaker 2: have to get out of the city for a little

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Speaker 2: while every single year. This is the best time of

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Speaker 2: the baseball calendar to do it. So I've taken some

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Speaker 2: time right now before spring training starts and having a

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Speaker 2: lovely time. Have taken a lot of culture eats, some

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Speaker 2: crazy food I've never seen or heard of before. Tried

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Speaker 2: jellyfish at a local night market, which whoa how was

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Speaker 2: that horrible? But I just there was so much weird

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Speaker 2: There was so much weird stuff, and that one looked

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Speaker 2: the cleanest, so I'm like, I'm gonna have that and

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Speaker 2: it sucked horrible. Wor's kissy ivinity if we've ever had

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Speaker 2: saw some local mytaie fights at an event on Friday

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Speaker 2: night where the wide swath of weight classes through the fights,

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Speaker 2: seven seven fights, a lot of undercar then the big

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Speaker 2: fight the main event. A tie dude knocked out an

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Speaker 2: English dude, which was really cool to see. Two dollars

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Speaker 2: beers three dollar mixed drinks for ten dollars ticket to

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Speaker 2: get in there, sixteen dollars ticket to get in there.

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Speaker 2: It's been it's been a really really nice couple of days.

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Speaker 1: Yes, sounds like a fantastic a little getaway smart time.

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Speaker 1: Of course, this is probably I would think of all

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Speaker 1: the episodes that you're gonna be away for, this is

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Speaker 1: gonna be the most action packed one in terms of

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Speaker 2: There's no way because there's so many things looming in

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Speaker 2: the baseball world still, just because the timing of the

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Speaker 2: free agent market, like you can't say that until Peter

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Speaker 2: Alanzo has a team. The hope is that just in

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Speaker 2: the next two and a half weeks, while I'm still here,

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Speaker 2: in three weeks, we p Loves doesn't sign it. We

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Speaker 2: actually it actually comes to fruition like the last week

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Speaker 2: of February, first week of March, like we always predicted well.

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Speaker 1: To be fair based on the information and news and

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Speaker 1: even stuff that we heard from Steve Cohen, it seems

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Speaker 1: like the door is still very much open for so

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Speaker 1: Also at the same time, I don't I don't think

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Speaker 1: we've got rumors that the Blue Jays are making pushes.

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Speaker 1: We've got rumors that Pete Alonzo met with the Angels

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Speaker 1: and that the Angels were making an offer for Peter

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Speaker 1: Alonzo or we're attempting to make an offer for Peter Alonzo.

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Speaker 1: Everyone's trying to get their clicks. As we know, there's

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Speaker 1: been a million people here. He's the new Juan Soto

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Speaker 1: in that who's a random person on Twitter that can

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Speaker 1: Sam and Tim Healey, all those guys. Everyone that is

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Speaker 1: that's basically all I want to get on my soapbox

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Speaker 1: for about News.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the tweet of that whole saga, which happened like

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Speaker 2: at Lebron MacLean breaking scott Ors is telling people that

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Speaker 2: p Alonso will sign with the Jays and the Mets

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Speaker 2: don't up their offer. By the time he counts at three,

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Speaker 2: that just seems like where we're at, it seems like

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Speaker 1: I think Ken Rosenthal even said something along the lines

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Speaker 1: the Mets, that ultimately he still feels like Pete Alonso

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Speaker 1: on the Mets makes the most sense for both parties totally.

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Speaker 1: And again it's again team like the Blue Jays linked him,

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Speaker 1: the Blue Jays who just signed Anthony Scotsondere who's a

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Speaker 2: And also you're kind of if your guy like Pete

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Speaker 2: been true and very consistent about this. With Pete, You're

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Speaker 2: staring at this Blue Jays roster, You're staring at the

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Speaker 2: Al East knowing you're absolutely the fourth or fifth worst

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Speaker 2: team at best, that organization has no future. You don't

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Speaker 2: know what's going to happen next year with most of

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Speaker 2: that core, most of that pitching staff. You're gonna sign

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Speaker 2: a multi year deal there instead of just I mean,

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Speaker 2: at some point this becomes pride, this becomes ego, but

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Speaker 2: just signing a deal for the Mets at the rounder

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Speaker 2: market rate slightly above it, even if it's just for

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Speaker 2: one year to play with one Sola Francisco Lindor. And

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Speaker 2: you know, it was deep in his heart, in his mind,

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Speaker 2: killing Pete not to be part of all the amazing

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Speaker 2: say stuff like legitimately, I bet that hurt him to

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Speaker 2: like being that guy having the bravado, and like you're

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Speaker 2: you're not getting that with another team. You're gonna toil

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Speaker 2: around in Los Angeles Anaheim the rest of your career,

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Speaker 2: like away from your family and just a horrible organization

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Speaker 2: it's like Pete but just talent wise, Like you just

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Speaker 2: want to suck for the next couple of years. You

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Speaker 2: in the biggest stage, it doesn't make sense for him

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Speaker 1: Truthfully, I think there's also something to say about Pete Alonzo,

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Speaker 1: his free agency, the quality of player that he is

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Speaker 1: viewed as moving forward that the teams interested right now

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Speaker 1: and we know why. He is a perfect fit for

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Speaker 1: this team with that forty home run power, with everything

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Speaker 1: League Baseball. You're not hearing about like the Rays being interested.

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Speaker 1: You're not hearing about like any of these organizations that

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Speaker 2: It just sucks, But it's the truth of plans. Are

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Speaker 2: that the last two year, like we've seen him get

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Speaker 2: worse a thing that used to he used to be

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Speaker 2: with tremendous consistency. He's just not doing that as often.

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Speaker 2: And we've always speculated that was just a mental thing

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Speaker 2: where Pete wanted to become like a little more batting

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Speaker 2: But then he's just made him hit the ball as hard.

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Speaker 2: Like this doesn't seem that dissimilar to me to a

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Speaker 2: Like when you're not that athletic to begin with, and

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Speaker 2: you turn thirty years old and you start to get

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Speaker 2: as much better, of course, but I know, of course

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Speaker 2: he's much better. But I'm saying, like some of those

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Speaker 2: I bet there was a moment where some Philly people

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Speaker 2: because he had another peak season where he was awesome.

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Speaker 2: But the best season Pete had should be taken with

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Speaker 2: them little bit more of a grain assault. And I

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Speaker 2: think Mets fans do because of the rabbit baseball in

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Speaker 2: It was an amazing moment. It's been really cool to

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Speaker 2: back to think about peace Squeeze and the Batchue type.

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Speaker 2: Pete being nervous. Yeah, you can't prove that. You can't

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Speaker 2: We're not using RBIs to dictate free agent values. Says

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Speaker 2: when it comes to making more money than like the

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Speaker 2: market things he's worth. And that's still where we're at.

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Speaker 2: It's kind of cool that master standing their ground on it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and we heard a little bit of insight now

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Speaker 1: of the many sound clips and things that were going on,

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Speaker 1: after hearing we want Pete Chance, we want Alonzo Chance,

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Speaker 1: David Stearns apparently getting booed about not just giving Pete

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Speaker 1: all the money that he wants. Steve Cohen bumped in

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Speaker 1: and here's what he said. He goes, we've made a

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Speaker 1: significant offer to Pete, and what David has said is correct.

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Speaker 1: He's entitled go out and explore the market, and that's

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Speaker 1: what he's doing. Personally, this has been an exhausting conversation

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Speaker 1: and negotiation. Soto was tough. This is worse. A lot

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Speaker 1: of it is. We made a significant offer. I don't

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Speaker 1: like the structures of the offer that are being presented

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Speaker 1: back to us, and I think it's highly asymmetric against us.

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Speaker 1: I feel strongly about it. That's like he I guess

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Speaker 1: followed it up to by saying, I will never say no,

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Speaker 1: There's always a possibility. The reality is we're moving forward,

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Speaker 1: we continue to bring in players, and as we continue

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Speaker 1: that we already have. That's where we are. I think

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Speaker 1: as the days and weeks and months go on. Here.

431
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Speaker 1: Another move was made right before Amazing Day, I believe

432
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Speaker 1: Adbert al Zalai signing a two year deal with the Mets.

433
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Speaker 1: He's gonna be out for the entire year with Tommy John,

434
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Speaker 1: but he's a reclamation project and it seems like the

435
00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:55,680
Speaker 1: Mets might try to bring him back to a starter

436
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Speaker 1: possibly as well, maybe when he comes back, which I

437
00:16:58,640 --> 00:17:02,040
Speaker 1: think is super fast. Context, Adbert Alzalai had been the

438
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Speaker 1: closer for the Cubs for like one and a half

439
00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:07,760
Speaker 1: ish seasons. He was a kind of hyped up prospect

440
00:17:07,800 --> 00:17:10,080
Speaker 1: at one point in their organization as a starting pitcher.

441
00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:12,840
Speaker 1: It didn't really work. After twenty twenty one, he put

442
00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:14,520
Speaker 1: up like a near five ERA, they kind of gave

443
00:17:14,600 --> 00:17:16,600
Speaker 1: up on him being a starter, moved him to the bullpen,

444
00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:18,760
Speaker 1: and he was great in twenty twenty three, two point

445
00:17:18,840 --> 00:17:21,480
Speaker 1: six to seventy ERA, twenty two saves and sixty four innings,

446
00:17:21,520 --> 00:17:23,639
Speaker 1: a whip right around one. The stuff is good. He

447
00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:25,880
Speaker 1: threw hard, and then last year was just hurt by injury,

448
00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:28,080
Speaker 1: so it only made eighteen appearances. But this is the

449
00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:30,359
Speaker 1: type of thing that me and you always applaudt the

450
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Speaker 1: front office for doing. Is signing a guy on a

451
00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:36,040
Speaker 1: very low risk, high reward contract. Right here, he's cheap,

452
00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:38,840
Speaker 1: you get, you buy out his basically rehab season to

453
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Speaker 1: maybe get a guy for free that could make an

454
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Speaker 1: impact the next year.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, conceptually, this is the this with the Dodgers did

456
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Speaker 2: with Blake trying in a few years ago. Again, I

457
00:17:45,400 --> 00:17:46,919
Speaker 2: don't know if Alsle's going to start. I think he

458
00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:48,920
Speaker 2: does have the tools to start, But he also got

459
00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:51,480
Speaker 2: time of John Surger this past August. So, like you said,

460
00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:53,440
Speaker 2: most likely he's not going to pitch in twenty twenty five.

461
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Speaker 2: But he does a lot of things the Mets really like.

462
00:17:55,760 --> 00:17:57,600
Speaker 2: He has a four seemer sinker in a color three

463
00:17:57,600 --> 00:17:59,960
Speaker 2: different fasketball variations. The color definitely leans more like a

464
00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:02,520
Speaker 2: baby slider, then like a fastball variation, but's true. Then

465
00:18:02,520 --> 00:18:04,840
Speaker 2: he has a tight slider and his experimental with a sweeper.

466
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Speaker 2: So it's like a truth, it's it's a true h

467
00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:08,520
Speaker 2: it's true five pitch mix. Like he actually can, I

468
00:18:08,520 --> 00:18:11,440
Speaker 2: think get back to rotation. But it's just being here ahead,

469
00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:12,760
Speaker 2: like trying to get in on something. And it's the

470
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Speaker 2: fact that a guy like Alaze like probably had a

471
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Speaker 2: lot of similar offers like this, and if the teams

472
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Speaker 2: that had similar offers to him, he chose the Mets

473
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Speaker 2: because there's a lot of trust right now happening around

474
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Speaker 2: Major League Baseball and mess pitching development. So shout out

475
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Speaker 2: the Mets for that, Shout out Als of LA, Shout

476
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Speaker 2: out of us for screaming about als a couple a

477
00:18:25,880 --> 00:18:27,760
Speaker 2: couple of different podcasts. This off Sea's be like get him in,

478
00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:29,280
Speaker 2: get him in, get him in. And that year in

479
00:18:29,280 --> 00:18:31,080
Speaker 2: twenty twenty three, like he was truthfully one of the

480
00:18:31,080 --> 00:18:33,159
Speaker 2: better relievers in baseball once he got that closer's role

481
00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:34,880
Speaker 2: in the second half, like a whip RD that won

482
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Speaker 2: the two seven yra strikeouts. All those pitches the slider's

483
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Speaker 2: discussing and it was his primary pitch, like he's he's

484
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Speaker 2: for sure a piece. It's really really cool the Mets

485
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Speaker 2: are making moves like this as the offseason keeps going definitely.

486
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Speaker 1: And then they also made one more acquisition, which is

487
00:18:47,359 --> 00:18:50,199
Speaker 1: going to be a new Mets jersey was announced they

488
00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:54,080
Speaker 1: got a new road alternate, a blue pullover with blue

489
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Speaker 1: New York script across the front. Initial reactions, Okay, it's okay.

490
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Speaker 1: I'm not one to say that it's fantastic. I think

491
00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:05,840
Speaker 1: if they did that New York script in gray, I

492
00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:07,560
Speaker 1: think it would have looked really good, because then it

493
00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:09,280
Speaker 1: would have popped. I don't know what the Mets obsession

494
00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:11,919
Speaker 1: is with like not having any sort of popping on

495
00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:14,280
Speaker 1: these jerseys on the front end. We saw with the yeah,

496
00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:16,560
Speaker 1: it's the orange outline, and they've just abandoned the white

497
00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:18,720
Speaker 1: outline on the black jersey, which looked terrible last year.

498
00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:20,840
Speaker 1: It was not nearly as good looking, and they didn't

499
00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:23,040
Speaker 1: add any white to this one. A little bit confusing.

500
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Speaker 1: Don't know how that gets through the approval process. I'm

501
00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:27,840
Speaker 1: interested to see what it looks like on the field

502
00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:29,399
Speaker 1: because we didn't see like what it's gonna look like

503
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Speaker 1: with like the pants or if there's a like different

504
00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:33,960
Speaker 1: color hat that's coming with it as well. But I

505
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Speaker 1: think it's one that i'll have because I'm a jersey guy.

506
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Speaker 1: But I don't necessarily think it's one of the best

507
00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:40,320
Speaker 1: jerseys right now in baseball by any means.

508
00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:42,560
Speaker 2: No, I think this jersey's close. It's really good. I'm

509
00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:44,320
Speaker 2: interested to see what the collar actually looks like on

510
00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:46,159
Speaker 2: players on the field. The collars seems weird to me,

511
00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:46,600
Speaker 2: but I feel like.

512
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Speaker 1: It could be cool. The Nationals had a jersey like

513
00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:50,280
Speaker 1: this last year, and I think this is gonna be

514
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Speaker 1: the new thing that we see Nike dropping in is

515
00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:54,280
Speaker 1: these pullover jerseys, because the Nationals were the first to

516
00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:56,639
Speaker 1: get one last year. It looks interesting. I mean you

517
00:19:56,640 --> 00:19:58,760
Speaker 1: gotta remember, like these these dudes are ripped so like

518
00:19:58,840 --> 00:20:01,040
Speaker 1: it's a tight fitting jersey at that point looks a

519
00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:03,000
Speaker 1: little bit more normal than when it's just like hung

520
00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:06,080
Speaker 1: on a coat hanger. But I the great pants, I

521
00:20:06,119 --> 00:20:08,560
Speaker 1: feel like it's gonna really throw me off with that jersey. Yeah,

522
00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:09,600
Speaker 1: I don't know what to do with that.

523
00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:11,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I know, you don't really wear any white

524
00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:13,800
Speaker 2: in the road, but the white outland, these white pants

525
00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:16,200
Speaker 2: kind of would slap. But it's this jersey seems close.

526
00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:18,119
Speaker 2: I don't think it's just much about the Mets, like

527
00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:19,720
Speaker 2: having a weird jersey. I like the New York on

528
00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:21,480
Speaker 2: the road too, like the descript New York. It's just

529
00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:23,560
Speaker 2: about all jerseys across sports in the last about twenty

530
00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:26,160
Speaker 2: thirty years have gone so much worse over and over

531
00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:28,320
Speaker 2: and over and over again. It's just such an incredible,

532
00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:30,120
Speaker 2: such a horrible job by Nike, where if you look

533
00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:32,080
Speaker 2: at like the trip on these players from the nineties,

534
00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:34,080
Speaker 2: like every single sport, it's like this is sick. And

535
00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:35,760
Speaker 2: that's why all of us in this era love the

536
00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:38,160
Speaker 2: retro sports here because it all looks so much cooler

537
00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:39,680
Speaker 2: and there's so much more intricated in all these colors

538
00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:41,679
Speaker 2: and stuff. So it's kind that's part. It's kind of annoying,

539
00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:43,600
Speaker 2: but I get it. I think a totally fine jersey.

540
00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:45,879
Speaker 2: Very hard to have a hardest strong opinion on this one.

541
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Speaker 1: Yes, and you know what if the Mets winning it,

542
00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:50,439
Speaker 1: I love the jersey. That's really all that I care

543
00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:54,520
Speaker 1: about at the end of the day. Now, let's talk

544
00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:57,320
Speaker 1: about an amazing day. Neither of us were there. You're in Thailand.

545
00:20:57,400 --> 00:20:59,320
Speaker 1: I was in the city or whatever, had other plans,

546
00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:01,160
Speaker 1: but look pretty cool. I will say that, I think

547
00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:04,720
Speaker 1: overall because I went to Mets fan Fest in twenty

548
00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:09,200
Speaker 1: twenty before COVID. Shout out my boy Ernie. That's where

549
00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:11,480
Speaker 1: I became friends with I met Ernie, became friends with them.

550
00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:13,440
Speaker 1: He was a Marlins fan at the time. We convert

551
00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:16,400
Speaker 1: him to a Mets fan now. But without that fan fest,

552
00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:17,960
Speaker 1: they wouldn't have one of my best friends around. So

553
00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:20,400
Speaker 1: shout out fan Fest. It seems like they very much

554
00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:23,520
Speaker 1: improved it. The players are just walking around. There was

555
00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:27,080
Speaker 1: a lot of opportunities for people were throwing or taking

556
00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:29,960
Speaker 1: swings in the batting cage, throwing pictures in the bullpen.

557
00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:31,879
Speaker 1: You got to meet the players, take pictures with them,

558
00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:34,639
Speaker 1: shake their hands, meet and greets. It looked like, genuinely

559
00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:37,560
Speaker 1: just a really good job from the outside it that's

560
00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:38,600
Speaker 1: all I could really tell.

561
00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:41,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, sales in the team store like cool events that

562
00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:44,639
Speaker 2: were happening at the same time. New Players, Baby New Jersey.

563
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Speaker 1: Could have bought the twenty two for fifty bucks, I

564
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Speaker 1: think on a Jersey, I think it was a great deal.

565
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Speaker 2: It was a five dollars bred Baby Jersey. I like

566
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Speaker 2: that it was cool. They put some spotlight on Baby.

567
00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:54,560
Speaker 2: A lot of people just hate all the Baby ratheric

568
00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:56,760
Speaker 2: this offseason. For one thing, it's a good thing that

569
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Speaker 2: the Mets are really adding trying to push confidence on

570
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Speaker 2: their former top prospect who has fewer than five hundred

571
00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:04,720
Speaker 2: career played appearances, that might have an opening day roster spot,

572
00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:06,720
Speaker 2: if not an opening day starting spot, who probably still

573
00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:09,760
Speaker 2: has legitimate potential as like as like a three win

574
00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:11,720
Speaker 2: player in the next calendar year. I think all that's

575
00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:13,600
Speaker 2: really possible for Rebads. Why I like that they're pushing

576
00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:15,840
Speaker 2: him and doing this. Did you see what Francisco Alvarez

577
00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:16,200
Speaker 2: was wearing.

578
00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:20,200
Speaker 1: It was insane. He wore like a pinstripe suit, dude.

579
00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:21,720
Speaker 2: Jack get jacket over his jersey.

580
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Speaker 1: It was insane. It looked like he was wearing like

581
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Speaker 1: the old Frank Sinatra thing.

582
00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:27,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was cool seeing Mauricio there hanging out with

583
00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:29,119
Speaker 2: those guys in Vienna's a lot, like we call, we

584
00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:31,760
Speaker 2: all kind of forget because it's been so disjointed the

585
00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:33,680
Speaker 2: last few years that those four spent so much time

586
00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:36,080
Speaker 2: together coming up through the system, so many similar stops

587
00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:38,560
Speaker 2: to the minor leagues and Mauricio, Yeah, when we interviewed

588
00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:39,840
Speaker 2: them all on the same day back back in the

589
00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:41,680
Speaker 2: twenty twenty one, we really getting this thing off the ground.

590
00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:43,879
Speaker 2: But it's funny too because like Mauricio was the guy,

591
00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:46,600
Speaker 2: Sfanta was more like Mauricio Bay the Alvarez, the Fianda

592
00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:48,240
Speaker 2: is kind of a little older than the outskirts. And

593
00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:51,040
Speaker 2: it's funny when you think about Marizio in his skill set,

594
00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:53,199
Speaker 2: how much he can tie this team together as like

595
00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:55,840
Speaker 2: another Legiti in fielder with crazy power, just like have

596
00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:57,760
Speaker 2: a little bit pizaz a little more Latin flairing here,

597
00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:00,959
Speaker 2: crazy te Nimo rocking his beard because he hasn't made

598
00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:03,439
Speaker 2: any public appearance recently, him having like a grizzly Adams

599
00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:05,440
Speaker 2: like real Wyoming West Coast beard. I love to see

600
00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:07,199
Speaker 2: this Nimo like growing old trying to be like a

601
00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:09,440
Speaker 2: thirty home er corner outfielder with a three fifty on bays.

602
00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:12,360
Speaker 2: I like that transition for him. Again, we talked about

603
00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:14,000
Speaker 2: the peek Comen stuff that was insane just watching the

604
00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:16,480
Speaker 2: fans agamon like shame and on you guys that boot.

605
00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:18,439
Speaker 2: David Searns Like, we are in a new We're in

606
00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:20,080
Speaker 2: such a new era with this organization. It's been so

607
00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:22,480
Speaker 2: beautiful to watch the triumphant of him, Mendoz and Steve

608
00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:25,280
Speaker 2: Cohen like operate and be trusted and well respected in

609
00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:27,399
Speaker 2: the world of baseball now get the world of media

610
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Speaker 2: as well.

611
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Speaker 1: Like, it's just cool.

612
00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:32,280
Speaker 2: It's it's very clear that he's sensationally good at his job,

613
00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:35,120
Speaker 2: and I really really, really really like that he's even

614
00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:36,960
Speaker 2: someone who I didn't seem like. I never thought he

615
00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:39,040
Speaker 2: had much of a personality to be open in these

616
00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:41,040
Speaker 2: public events in the way that he is. Like, that's

617
00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:41,960
Speaker 2: a very cool thing as well.

618
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Speaker 1: I find it's so funny when I still on Twitter

619
00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:46,040
Speaker 1: because I love I'll answer these people all the time

620
00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:47,639
Speaker 1: when I like tweet about the Meds and we're like,

621
00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:49,200
Speaker 1: they got Soto and then they've pumped at the rest

622
00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:51,159
Speaker 1: of the offseason like they said that we're good. They

623
00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:54,040
Speaker 1: there's nothing else to him, Like what are you talking about?

624
00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:55,440
Speaker 1: What did they do that makes you think this? Or

625
00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:58,520
Speaker 1: didn't sign and pitching. I'm like Corvin Burns wasn't coming here. Guys,

626
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Speaker 1: I don't know what you what to tell. You want

627
00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:02,000
Speaker 1: to give Max free nine years? That's what you would

628
00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:05,840
Speaker 1: have had to have done. The amount of flak David

629
00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:09,000
Speaker 1: Sturtins catches. And granted we're big glazers over here of

630
00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:11,600
Speaker 1: David Stearns and his his acumen as a president of

631
00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:15,040
Speaker 1: baseball operations, but they made the playoffs last year. They

632
00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:16,960
Speaker 1: made it run. It was an integral part of that.

633
00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:20,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, and again we'll also push this back, like we

634
00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:23,040
Speaker 2: we've kind of had this moment. I don't know, because

635
00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:24,800
Speaker 2: I feel like there was some stuff about this fan

636
00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:26,440
Speaker 2: fest that I thought was a little bit like we've

637
00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:28,000
Speaker 2: talked about this a little bit, especially when the season

638
00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:32,159
Speaker 2: ended last year of the Mets crowning them. Yeah, the

639
00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:34,960
Speaker 2: Mets crowning themselves for a season that was amazing and

640
00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:37,840
Speaker 2: I'll remember it forever. But you didn't win anything. You

641
00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:39,360
Speaker 2: didn't win the division, you didn't go to the World,

642
00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:40,960
Speaker 2: you didn't win your league, didn't win even win a

643
00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:43,000
Speaker 2: pennant like you lost in the NLCS, which is great,

644
00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:47,119
Speaker 2: but there's there's this element of like, I don't know,

645
00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:51,120
Speaker 2: like that this team is like, how am I gonna

646
00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:54,119
Speaker 2: say it? It goes back to and I'm gonna bring

647
00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:55,960
Speaker 2: up my favorite thing that everyone loved to hate me about.

648
00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:59,080
Speaker 2: It goes back to like the idea of the grimest

649
00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:01,440
Speaker 2: seat being retiredired. It goes back to the idea of

650
00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:04,200
Speaker 2: like the glorified OMG stuff.

651
00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:06,560
Speaker 1: It's not that we're anti it. It's not that if

652
00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:09,200
Speaker 1: the fact that, yeah, this stuff was amazing, it was awesome,

653
00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:12,000
Speaker 1: The players loved it. It helped them win without a doubt,

654
00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:14,080
Speaker 1: no doubt, it helped this team loosen up at least,

655
00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:20,199
Speaker 1: and that helped them win. But seeing the his glorification

656
00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:22,159
Speaker 1: is the best way to do it over what was

657
00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:25,800
Speaker 1: a season where you did not win anything is still

658
00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:28,320
Speaker 1: an awkward place for me as a sports fan, so

659
00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:31,040
Speaker 1: as a sportsman whose teams have never won anything. It's

660
00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:33,399
Speaker 1: a weird thing where it's like, I get it, it

661
00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:35,560
Speaker 1: was a great season. I'm all for the positivity. I'm

662
00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:37,920
Speaker 1: about it. It's all good. Like I'm this really isn't

663
00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:39,639
Speaker 1: much of a complaint, just more of something that I

664
00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:41,520
Speaker 1: wish was done a little differently, where it's like I

665
00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:43,359
Speaker 1: want to hear more about how like we're hungry we

666
00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:45,880
Speaker 1: want this, rather than like how awesome was last year?

667
00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:48,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, again, like I do think they feel that way.

668
00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:49,159
Speaker 2: I think there was there was still a lot of

669
00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:50,960
Speaker 2: talk about that. And again the thing that's more on

670
00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:53,280
Speaker 2: the organization than the players. I think the players are

671
00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:55,040
Speaker 2: very focused in twenty twenty five. I don't think they

672
00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:56,640
Speaker 2: give a shit what happened last year anymore.

673
00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:57,320
Speaker 1: Oh no, totally.

674
00:25:57,359 --> 00:25:59,600
Speaker 2: And again it's like we have had these conversations too.

675
00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:01,720
Speaker 2: We're not that we crowned this team, Like we didn't

676
00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:04,920
Speaker 2: crown this core necessarily, like we didn't crown the individual

677
00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:07,840
Speaker 2: players in this team, but we've kind of crowned the organization,

678
00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:09,840
Speaker 2: being like this organization is so leaps and bounds better

679
00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:11,879
Speaker 2: than we've ever seen in our entire lives. I always

680
00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:13,240
Speaker 2: go back to the quote that how he Rose says

681
00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:15,240
Speaker 2: that he's never seen a Mets organization that's locked in

682
00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:17,280
Speaker 2: at the top. He's never been this confident in decision

683
00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:19,600
Speaker 2: making process in the Mets organization. He's watched every single

684
00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:21,199
Speaker 2: fucking game, Like that's where we are right now as

685
00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:23,440
Speaker 2: a team. And none of this matters until you actually

686
00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:26,080
Speaker 2: start winning consistently, like if you want to become the Dodgers.

687
00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:28,280
Speaker 2: Even when the Dodgers in their transition phase, they're winning

688
00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:31,680
Speaker 2: ninety five games a year, and I think and yeah, like.

689
00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:33,640
Speaker 1: They were losing in the World Series by this much

690
00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:34,760
Speaker 1: and the team cheated ones.

691
00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:36,440
Speaker 2: No, they also they weren't making the World Series that

692
00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:38,200
Speaker 2: much either. That took a few years of the whole

693
00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:41,400
Speaker 2: core crime together. But it's just that this Mets team,

694
00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:43,960
Speaker 2: the floor is still not that high right now. Like

695
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:46,080
Speaker 2: the floor We did the same last week, so we

696
00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:48,000
Speaker 2: got some good replies to the Out of Park Baseball.

697
00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:51,600
Speaker 2: Were the floor, this team could go eighty and eighty

698
00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:53,119
Speaker 2: two this year, that wouldn't be like the most shocking

699
00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:54,760
Speaker 2: thing ever given this roster, if there's any injury, if

700
00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:56,399
Speaker 2: anything goes wrong. So I think it is weird that

701
00:26:56,440 --> 00:27:00,159
Speaker 2: like especially like also one shotout foul territory for being

702
00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:03,600
Speaker 2: at the Baseball Right Association Awards sponsoring it. Scooter, Eric

703
00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:06,240
Speaker 2: and AJ were out there like talking on there there

704
00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:07,639
Speaker 2: decked out in the suits. It was kind of sweet

705
00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:09,679
Speaker 2: to see. And you have the Foul Territory branding like

706
00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:11,719
Speaker 2: on the stream the whole time, like with the Baseball

707
00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:13,680
Speaker 2: Ride Association Awards, like logo that was cool to see

708
00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:15,719
Speaker 2: mixed in but like the Mets, I got like one

709
00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:18,240
Speaker 2: of the like the Year Achievement Awards, and like Grima

710
00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:19,840
Speaker 2: is on stage, Like again, it's cool, Like Grimas was

711
00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:22,440
Speaker 2: part of the team last year, so that's real. But yeah,

712
00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:24,879
Speaker 2: how much are we how much are we going to

713
00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:26,800
Speaker 2: going to hold onto a season that we came in

714
00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:27,800
Speaker 2: third place?

715
00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:30,080
Speaker 1: Like I said, I think Grimas has to stay in

716
00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:31,880
Speaker 1: twenty twenty four. It's not going to but I thought

717
00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:33,360
Speaker 1: I thought it should stay in twenty twenty four.

718
00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:34,879
Speaker 2: I think grim should stay around a little bit, like

719
00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:37,960
Speaker 2: they should, but they should be like a great like emergency. Yeah,

720
00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:40,040
Speaker 2: Like I think if Grimace had Opening Day, which I'm

721
00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:42,320
Speaker 2: sure he will be, I think that will be yeah.

722
00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:44,720
Speaker 2: But like if Grimace is around like a May ninth

723
00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:47,880
Speaker 2: and the Mets are Thursday against the Rockies, like yeah,

724
00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:49,800
Speaker 2: in the Mets are seventeen and eighteen, I'll be like, a,

725
00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:51,280
Speaker 2: this is this is getting kind of fucked up now,

726
00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:53,520
Speaker 2: like it's seth ro good meme, but that was again,

727
00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:56,199
Speaker 2: like there's it's it's cool to see. I love them

728
00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:58,120
Speaker 2: as mess of the fan Fest. More teams are doing

729
00:27:58,119 --> 00:27:59,800
Speaker 2: it now. The fact that Sepo did this and it

730
00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:02,879
Speaker 2: was so vast is incredible. I do think though there

731
00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:04,520
Speaker 2: is a little bit of like we need to prove

732
00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:06,320
Speaker 2: ourselves out of the field a little bit more before

733
00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:09,520
Speaker 2: one hundred really annoint ourselves as something special. But again,

734
00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:11,359
Speaker 2: as an organization, I still think we are. We're in

735
00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:13,399
Speaker 2: that spot again. Like there's a lot of symptoms now.

736
00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:15,040
Speaker 2: The Abers life signing is a big symptom of the

737
00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:19,480
Speaker 2: organization of organization's success or listening to this podcast, yeah right,

738
00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:22,000
Speaker 2: like all that shit and also the couple of things

739
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:23,600
Speaker 2: I want to talk about amazing day. First of all,

740
00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:27,000
Speaker 2: I think that Fiano's he's got a swagger about him

741
00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:31,879
Speaker 2: right now is kind of unmistakable. Yeah, I'm afraid I'm

742
00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:33,960
Speaker 2: afraid of a cold streak with Viento's That's the only

743
00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:36,040
Speaker 2: thing is and it's not I'm afraid of a cold

744
00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:39,080
Speaker 2: streak of like him as a player, like, Oh, I'm

745
00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:39,920
Speaker 2: afraid of a cold streak.

746
00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:41,440
Speaker 1: I'm afraid of what does up here. I'm afraid of

747
00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:42,920
Speaker 1: the mental side of a cold streak for him.

748
00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:44,320
Speaker 2: I'm a little bit obposate with you because I think

749
00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:47,920
Speaker 2: we've seen Fiano's have insane mental toughness and mental fortes

750
00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:50,200
Speaker 2: two over the last few years, like what he went through,

751
00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:52,560
Speaker 2: especially last year in the beginning of the year, j

752
00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:54,320
Speaker 2: D Martinez being signed in the eve of the season,

753
00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:56,600
Speaker 2: coming up and hitting walk off home run, fucking immediately

754
00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:58,400
Speaker 2: being sent back down the day after that happened, Like

755
00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:01,000
Speaker 2: he I think he has like the dog shit mentally,

756
00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:02,920
Speaker 2: and I just I just sometimes worry about the skill set.

757
00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:05,640
Speaker 2: But he does have true star appeal, true star potential,

758
00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:07,480
Speaker 2: and we're seeing that unfold these last few months. I

759
00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:09,840
Speaker 2: think that is a really cool thing to watch. To

760
00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:11,120
Speaker 2: be Devil's advocate here.

761
00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:14,960
Speaker 1: Do you fear that, because now it's almost a given

762
00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:17,880
Speaker 1: that there there's a worry there because last year he

763
00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:20,680
Speaker 1: had to fight for his life. You play different when

764
00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:23,120
Speaker 1: you're like this might be the last shot I ever get.

765
00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:25,760
Speaker 1: Do you think that there's something to that? I'm I'm

766
00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:27,760
Speaker 1: not like necessarily believing this. I'm just trying to get

767
00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:30,760
Speaker 1: a conversation going here, But I think I think there

768
00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:33,520
Speaker 1: might there could be something to the idea of like

769
00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:35,400
Speaker 1: when you're fighting for your life versus where you're coming

770
00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:38,000
Speaker 1: in you're like, I'm adored, I'm awesome, Like had a

771
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:40,560
Speaker 1: great year. Well, what you're saying is exactly what we're

772
00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:42,520
Speaker 1: talking about for the entire team, Like that's all this,

773
00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:45,239
Speaker 1: that's all simplest about everything right now. Where again, like

774
00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:46,880
Speaker 1: is it like we got over the hump and now

775
00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:47,840
Speaker 1: it's downhill forever?

776
00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:49,280
Speaker 2: Like you know, I'm not down forever. I mean, but

777
00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:51,480
Speaker 2: it's like it's not downhill is the wrong word there,

778
00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:53,200
Speaker 2: I'm saying, like you climb the mountains easy to go

779
00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:54,680
Speaker 2: down the other side of the mountain, not like teams

780
00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:57,680
Speaker 2: getting worse. But it's like, is it like we we snapped,

781
00:29:57,720 --> 00:29:59,800
Speaker 2: like we did it, We're there? Maybe they are like

782
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,640
Speaker 2: maybe that is true, Maybe sick I'd love maybe maybe

783
00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:04,520
Speaker 2: it seemed walks down the field against the Astros opening

784
00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:06,800
Speaker 2: day and just the swaggers insurmountable and we just start

785
00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:08,800
Speaker 2: beating the ship out of people. I think that's possible.

786
00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:10,600
Speaker 2: But also again, like maybe that was a good point.

787
00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:12,000
Speaker 2: I don't think about that way, but I do feel

788
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:14,720
Speaker 2: like he just has I think he has such such

789
00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:17,080
Speaker 2: dog in him that I'm I trust it, I'm in.

790
00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:19,680
Speaker 1: I mean, he he went, uh, he went Vanilla Ice

791
00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:21,840
Speaker 1: on us with the with the blonde frosted tips, which

792
00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:24,520
Speaker 1: is a crazy move, crazy move. I hope it pays off,

793
00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:26,200
Speaker 1: but I mean, that's and you can you can only

794
00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:27,640
Speaker 1: do that move if you've got dog like that.

795
00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:29,560
Speaker 2: And sick that they all had to sweet together with

796
00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:32,240
Speaker 2: the next game after fan Fest, and then Fianto's Marisi

797
00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:33,680
Speaker 2: on a couple of other guys win sac Qurt side

798
00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:34,720
Speaker 2: and I don't know if you've seen. This is a

799
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:37,200
Speaker 2: recent update because I've been in a Twitter storm about

800
00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:39,000
Speaker 2: making fun of Josh Harp for saying the Yankee City,

801
00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:40,880
Speaker 2: which was in response to the fact that there was

802
00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:43,080
Speaker 2: a video about the Mets in air quotes guys getting

803
00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:45,280
Speaker 2: booed when they were showing them the JumboTron. It's come

804
00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:47,200
Speaker 2: out that was fake. That was the doctor video. It

805
00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:51,200
Speaker 2: got community noted. No way, the John boy original tweet

806
00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:56,640
Speaker 2: about the Mets getting booed was community noted. Whoa did

807
00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:57,200
Speaker 2: they do it?

808
00:30:57,360 --> 00:30:57,800
Speaker 1: Or is that.

809
00:30:57,880 --> 00:30:59,000
Speaker 2: I don't know if they did it. I don't know

810
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:01,959
Speaker 2: if they had the first one away, but incredible. I mean,

811
00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:03,920
Speaker 2: so it's trolling out there. I did a big troll

812
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:05,760
Speaker 2: on Yankee fans too, and I have I'm going to

813
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:07,440
Speaker 2: get like a million impressions on it, which is which

814
00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:09,880
Speaker 2: is funnily Hell yeah, it's over half. It's half over

815
00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:12,520
Speaker 2: half a milk right now. But it's interesting how like

816
00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:14,720
Speaker 2: stroking these Yankee mets flames is still such a big thing,

817
00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:16,680
Speaker 2: but like that's just that's like star ship, that's sick

818
00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:18,560
Speaker 2: New York ship. Like of course, had the Yankee at

819
00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:21,720
Speaker 2: the next game. Did you see AJ Minter during Amazing Day?

820
00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:23,920
Speaker 2: I thought that was funny because he was up there

821
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:26,080
Speaker 2: with who's he up there with? It was I can't

822
00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:28,200
Speaker 2: remember right now, but it was a Clay Holmes. Yeah,

823
00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:32,640
Speaker 2: I think Montes maybe think Mons guy I was, I

824
00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:34,240
Speaker 2: remember it would be like these are Yankees he's up

825
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:35,600
Speaker 2: there with, like for guys who are on the Yankees.

826
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:37,480
Speaker 2: But just funny, like we've always known minterr to be

827
00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:39,000
Speaker 2: a heel, Like don't you guys remember playing against them

828
00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:40,760
Speaker 2: all those years, Like he's a dick, he's an asshole.

829
00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:42,440
Speaker 2: So it's just funny that he would do that. It's

830
00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:44,720
Speaker 2: weird that like he would evoked the Yankees like that

831
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:46,120
Speaker 2: the Mets fan fest. But I do think it was

832
00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:47,760
Speaker 2: like kind of being tongue of cheap literally Clay Homes

833
00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:49,640
Speaker 2: he was sitting next to you, Yes, but also that

834
00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:53,920
Speaker 2: was that was a funny comment. And then the last

835
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:55,600
Speaker 2: thing I wanted as we started to go out of

836
00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:57,920
Speaker 2: the fan fest, I'm starting to think it's a little

837
00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:01,640
Speaker 2: weird how the Mets are super with open arms re

838
00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:03,800
Speaker 2: welcoming Matt Harvey into the community and the family.

839
00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:08,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I it's one of It's one of those things

840
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:13,840
Speaker 1: where I think Harvey went through a really tough time

841
00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:17,200
Speaker 1: and I think that's super unfortunate all the stuff that happened,

842
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:20,120
Speaker 1: and obviously he's not to blame for anything, but it

843
00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:23,800
Speaker 1: is interesting how quickly, all of a sudden, it's bounced

844
00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:26,000
Speaker 1: back into the Mets community. I don't know if this

845
00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:27,560
Speaker 1: is a good or bad thing. I really I kind

846
00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:31,000
Speaker 1: of feel neither way. But I also can see both

847
00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:34,160
Speaker 1: sides of things, like welcome Matt Harvey back, change person,

848
00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:37,400
Speaker 1: better person, everybody deserves second chance. But I can also

849
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:40,840
Speaker 1: see people on the other side being like, hey, some

850
00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:42,920
Speaker 1: bad stuff happened around him. I don't know if he

851
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:45,000
Speaker 1: should be a public figure right now. Yeah.

852
00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:46,840
Speaker 2: The part of it that I like the most is

853
00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:49,120
Speaker 2: that it seemed like when Harvey was here towards the end,

854
00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:51,280
Speaker 2: he was kind of blowing in the winds, and I

855
00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:53,080
Speaker 2: think that was a function of some poor leadership on

856
00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:54,760
Speaker 2: this team then, like I just think the Will Pott's

857
00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:57,360
Speaker 2: and at that point, I guess Harry Collins wasn't really

858
00:32:57,440 --> 00:32:59,720
Speaker 2: you know, I guess last year. Last year he was

859
00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:00,920
Speaker 2: here with the whole time, but it's just like it

860
00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:02,320
Speaker 2: wasn't I don't know, it seemed like that was a

861
00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:04,200
Speaker 2: big struggle. So this is nice that as this organization

862
00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:06,040
Speaker 2: has become strong, but like all this stuff we're talking about,

863
00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:08,320
Speaker 2: like they'll welcome in a guy like Harvey, Like we

864
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:10,480
Speaker 2: had Mickey callaway for the last last okay, so that

865
00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:12,400
Speaker 2: was Micky Coways. So a God's shame on me for

866
00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:14,360
Speaker 2: any kind of blameatory terrors the players guy. But it's

867
00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:16,280
Speaker 2: just like the fact that it is nice that we're

868
00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:18,440
Speaker 2: able to welcome him back and hopefully he is changing,

869
00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:21,880
Speaker 2: he's better now. But this weird, just given the context

870
00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:25,240
Speaker 2: of everything had happened in the Tyler Skaggs trial in

871
00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:26,920
Speaker 2: the case of the other guy that I think went

872
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:29,560
Speaker 2: to jail with it, that Harvey was very explicitly named

873
00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:31,120
Speaker 2: He's very much a part of that, and that he

874
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:33,360
Speaker 2: was he was bad, He was very bad. And it

875
00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:35,560
Speaker 2: also was weird to me that, like, it's not bad.

876
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:37,560
Speaker 2: This is funny that like Harvey's here is like a

877
00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:39,240
Speaker 2: Mets legend, and like Zach Wheeler is one of the

878
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:42,320
Speaker 2: best pitcher in baseball sace. I know that part, that part, and.

879
00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:44,840
Speaker 1: Jake de Grom still pitching, and like the two guys

880
00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:47,000
Speaker 1: that like, if you think of that twenty fifteen World

881
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:49,040
Speaker 1: Series run, the two guys that guys would you would

882
00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:51,880
Speaker 1: make heroes. No cinder Guard Matt Harvey are not in

883
00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:55,000
Speaker 1: baseball anymore. No cinder guards going on any podcast right now,

884
00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:58,440
Speaker 1: begging for a chance, apologizing to the Mets. Give him

885
00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:00,920
Speaker 1: another chance, give me another chance. I should have never left.

886
00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:03,800
Speaker 1: Matt Harvey's not in baseball. And then Jake de Gram

887
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:06,480
Speaker 1: and Zach Wheeler are still pitching the Major's right now.

888
00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:08,239
Speaker 1: It's a good chance those guys could each win sy

889
00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:10,320
Speaker 1: Younks this year. But also so funny that the Harvey

890
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:13,319
Speaker 1: panel was like twenty fifteen World Series people, and it

891
00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:16,680
Speaker 1: was David Wright, Matt Harvey, and John Nice Johnny because

892
00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:17,879
Speaker 1: Johnny had great sense of humor.

893
00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:21,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, shout out, shout Limo, Ohio. Johnny's hopefully a buck

894
00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:22,480
Speaker 2: Guy fandom. They pretend he is.

895
00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:25,279
Speaker 1: But I really wonder who said no before Nie said yes,

896
00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:32,120
Speaker 1: Murphy and Granderson maybe. I mean, I'm not gonna say

897
00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:37,080
Speaker 1: said no, Busy. I'm gonna say busy Murphy, Granderson, Bartolo Busy.

898
00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:39,040
Speaker 2: The other part that was really funny about this fan

899
00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:40,680
Speaker 2: fest was they were gonna promote like a big panel

900
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:42,000
Speaker 2: once so though wasn't there.

901
00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:44,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know if it was ever coming, I'll

902
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:44,800
Speaker 1: be honest.

903
00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:46,319
Speaker 2: And last thing about Amazing Day, I mean a lot

904
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:47,640
Speaker 2: of you guys reached out to us and asked if

905
00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:49,239
Speaker 2: we were gonna be there. We're going to be doing

906
00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:51,359
Speaker 2: content stuff there. A lot of other content creators were there,

907
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:54,480
Speaker 2: like Jolly Connor Joe created there.

908
00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:55,080
Speaker 1: Yeah.

909
00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:57,759
Speaker 2: But just just to peel back to Curt a little bit.

910
00:34:57,760 --> 00:34:59,120
Speaker 2: We allude to this sometimes in the show, like we

911
00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:01,320
Speaker 2: have a pretty awkward rely with the Mets, Like the

912
00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:03,400
Speaker 2: way it ended last year was kind of awkward, and

913
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:06,000
Speaker 2: the way it went through this year was also pretty awkward,

914
00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:07,640
Speaker 2: and just there's no other really where they have for

915
00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:10,360
Speaker 2: it besides awkward, Like we I don't know, it just

916
00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:13,080
Speaker 2: it felt. It has felt weird. It felt weird, then

917
00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:16,680
Speaker 2: it felt weird right after. It still feels weird. It

918
00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:18,279
Speaker 2: feels like some other people were there. We all know

919
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:19,759
Speaker 2: if their companies were the ones like putting them to

920
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:21,200
Speaker 2: go there, if the Mets are the ones who like

921
00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:23,919
Speaker 2: reached out to them, but like we do similar things,

922
00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:25,680
Speaker 2: we've worked with them in the past, there was no

923
00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:27,920
Speaker 2: there was no indication, no communication with us. So it's

924
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:30,399
Speaker 2: just it's it's a bit of a weird feeling there

925
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:30,759
Speaker 2: for us.

926
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:33,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, like we weren't barred from being at the event,

927
00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:35,879
Speaker 1: but like personally, why I wasn't there. Obviously James can't

928
00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:37,640
Speaker 1: be there because he's in Thailand and that'd be impressive

929
00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:39,520
Speaker 1: if you flew all the way there, so it couldn't

930
00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:41,800
Speaker 1: make the flefth through the Midican. But for me, I

931
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:44,800
Speaker 1: was just like, this is this is an awkward situation

932
00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:47,719
Speaker 1: for me because it's like there's so many things that

933
00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:49,839
Speaker 1: I want to be involved with with an amazing day

934
00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:51,160
Speaker 1: and I want to want to be a part of

935
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:52,560
Speaker 1: this and talk to the players and talk to the

936
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:53,960
Speaker 1: people out there and all that kind of stuff. But

937
00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:56,640
Speaker 1: it didn't feel Yeah, and you guys, it didn't feel

938
00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:59,719
Speaker 1: like a spot that was appropriate for me to be

939
00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:01,879
Speaker 1: at right now. Honestly, it just didn't. It didn't seem

940
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:04,239
Speaker 1: like it was the right timing with what was going

941
00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:05,800
Speaker 1: on for me to be a part of it and

942
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:08,920
Speaker 1: try and make things happen. So that's why I wasn't there.

943
00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:12,840
Speaker 1: I just felt awkward. I did not feel particularly comfortable

944
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:14,759
Speaker 1: being there. But that being said, we go to like

945
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:17,640
Speaker 1: sixty games a year, so we're happy to run guys

946
00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:19,840
Speaker 1: at all the games we're around. You know, we'll have

947
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:21,520
Speaker 1: a beer with anybody at a game and we'll talk

948
00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:24,279
Speaker 1: to you guys and Mark. Yeah, I'm a season ticket

949
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:25,960
Speaker 1: holder now, which is still a crazy thing to say.

950
00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:28,279
Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, it did look

951
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:31,040
Speaker 1: like an amazing day, which there you go, looked like

952
00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:33,440
Speaker 1: an amazing day. I just cant on their marketing right there.

953
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:36,120
Speaker 1: It was fantastic And hopefully next year will be at it.

954
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:36,680
Speaker 1: That'll be great.

955
00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:38,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, also, we'll see the game do it

956
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:39,600
Speaker 2: next year. It doesn't seem like something you can just

957
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:41,840
Speaker 2: do every year. Kind of feel similar to old timers

958
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:44,200
Speaker 2: they where like you break this out every five ish years,

959
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:45,400
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. Like that kind of feels

960
00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:48,120
Speaker 2: to me. It looked like a great event, Like it's

961
00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:50,680
Speaker 2: just it we the way the way this all went

962
00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:53,919
Speaker 2: down the last year ish, it feels a little weird sometimes.

963
00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:54,480
Speaker 1: And it's a little raw.

964
00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:57,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, not even that's a little raw, just seeing the

965
00:36:57,200 --> 00:37:00,239
Speaker 2: way that some other people are accepted. It doesn't what

966
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:02,279
Speaker 2: we are. So it's like, all right, we'll take us

967
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:03,200
Speaker 2: take a step for a second.

968
00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:04,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll take a step back. We'll do our own thing,

969
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:06,400
Speaker 1: keep our head down, keep doing what we're doing. We

970
00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:08,960
Speaker 1: make tons of METS content for you guys all the

971
00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:11,319
Speaker 1: time over here on YouTube, over here on the audio feed.

972
00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:13,000
Speaker 1: We hope you guys do appreciate we love making it

973
00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:15,080
Speaker 1: for you. We have an episode coming out later this

974
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:17,520
Speaker 1: week with Lance Brasdowski where we go over a lot

975
00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:20,160
Speaker 1: of really really dense pitching stuff, especially on the prospect side.

976
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:22,040
Speaker 1: So hope you guys are looking forward to that, And

977
00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:24,640
Speaker 1: if there's any big news or whatnot, me and James

978
00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:26,800
Speaker 1: will be coming at you with another episode. So we

979
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:28,759
Speaker 1: appreciate you. Make sure you, guys are subscribed to the

980
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:31,840
Speaker 1: YouTube channel over on metstup on YouTube. If you're listening

981
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:34,279
Speaker 1: to us Apple podcasts, Spotify, Google drops the rating, drops

982
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:36,480
Speaker 1: a review, download and subscribe and follow us on our

983
00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:39,680
Speaker 1: social media at mets up on Twitter, Instagram, and TikTok.

984
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:42,360
Speaker 1: You can follow James on Twitter app James, I'll just

985
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:44,320
Speaker 1: course I know now I'm drafting Bark with the c

986
00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:46,239
Speaker 1: Thank you all for listening and watching, and we'll catch

987
00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:47,200
Speaker 1: you all on the next episode.

988
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Speaker 2: Peace out, peace I guys, let's go met to see

989
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Speaker 2: you next time.