1 00:00:04,038 --> 00:00:07,358 Speaker 1: The Book of Joe podcast is a production of iHeartRadio. 2 00:00:13,798 --> 00:00:17,798 Speaker 1: Hello again and welcome back to the Book of Joe Podcasts, 3 00:00:18,358 --> 00:00:22,598 Speaker 1: The Most Interesting Baseball and then some podcasts on your 4 00:00:22,638 --> 00:00:26,158 Speaker 1: Internet and Joe. Before we get to our special guests, 5 00:00:26,158 --> 00:00:29,078 Speaker 1: of course, I'm Tom Verducci. This is Joe Madden, my 6 00:00:29,118 --> 00:00:31,358 Speaker 1: buddy and Joe. Before we get to our special guest, 7 00:00:31,798 --> 00:00:35,118 Speaker 1: I gotta ask you about your golf game, because basically 8 00:00:35,158 --> 00:00:38,318 Speaker 1: you're hitting the PGA Tour soon. You've got a big 9 00:00:38,358 --> 00:00:40,558 Speaker 1: event coming up. Tell me about it. Yeah, I'm very 10 00:00:40,598 --> 00:00:44,838 Speaker 1: nervous actually heading down to Tampact later today. I'm going 11 00:00:44,878 --> 00:00:47,878 Speaker 1: to be there for almost ten days and yes, the 12 00:00:47,958 --> 00:00:51,278 Speaker 1: valves bar. I was invited to participate in the pro 13 00:00:51,358 --> 00:00:53,478 Speaker 1: am component of this, So yeah, I was out hitting 14 00:00:53,478 --> 00:00:56,678 Speaker 1: a bucket yesterday, played all week in Long Beach, played 15 00:00:56,678 --> 00:01:01,278 Speaker 1: into Sleep last week at Skylinks. So I'm trying to 16 00:01:01,358 --> 00:01:06,558 Speaker 1: really perfect the turn, which totally maximizes distance and accuracy. 17 00:01:06,638 --> 00:01:08,278 Speaker 1: So I'm into all of this. I'm looking forward to 18 00:01:08,278 --> 00:01:10,478 Speaker 1: getting a couple of tips, but dude, I got that one. 19 00:01:10,518 --> 00:01:13,278 Speaker 1: I got Whisper Rock the next week with my neighbor 20 00:01:13,358 --> 00:01:17,318 Speaker 1: John Davidson. Then I go to California for Walley Joiners 21 00:01:17,838 --> 00:01:20,518 Speaker 1: tournament out there, and then eventually Joe names in Florida. 22 00:01:20,598 --> 00:01:22,918 Speaker 1: So a little, a little, that's not really nerve wrack. 23 00:01:22,958 --> 00:01:25,238 Speaker 1: I'm really eager and excited about it. It's it's kind 24 00:01:25,238 --> 00:01:27,718 Speaker 1: of cool. It's something I'm really looking forward to. I 25 00:01:27,758 --> 00:01:30,598 Speaker 1: hope they have very large galleries there at the Vallast Bar. 26 00:01:30,758 --> 00:01:33,798 Speaker 1: Joe put some more pressure on you. I'm okay with that, 27 00:01:33,878 --> 00:01:35,638 Speaker 1: just so they have to. They're not a duck, you know, 28 00:01:35,678 --> 00:01:39,238 Speaker 1: they said. Although you know it's it's I'm looking forward 29 00:01:39,238 --> 00:01:41,118 Speaker 1: to that. I think it forces you to focus or 30 00:01:41,158 --> 00:01:45,718 Speaker 1: concentrate more. Let's we'll see. Yeah. Now, our special guests welcome. 31 00:01:45,918 --> 00:01:49,558 Speaker 1: Sean Purdy. Now you probably don't know him from his 32 00:01:49,758 --> 00:01:53,318 Speaker 1: days in the Angels, Giants, Braves organizations eight minor league 33 00:01:53,318 --> 00:01:55,718 Speaker 1: seasons as as a pitcher with a really good record 34 00:01:55,718 --> 00:01:59,398 Speaker 1: we'll get to, but more recently in a lot of 35 00:01:59,398 --> 00:02:02,758 Speaker 1: TV time as well. Sean really kind of famous for 36 00:02:02,878 --> 00:02:06,558 Speaker 1: being Brock's dad. Of course, Brock had a tremendous run 37 00:02:06,598 --> 00:02:08,798 Speaker 1: with the San Francisco Giants, brought them all the way 38 00:02:08,838 --> 00:02:12,798 Speaker 1: to the NFC Championship Game. Sean, welcome. First of all, 39 00:02:12,798 --> 00:02:14,718 Speaker 1: I gotta tell us how your son is doing, because 40 00:02:14,718 --> 00:02:17,038 Speaker 1: the last we saw of him, he took a pretty 41 00:02:17,078 --> 00:02:19,198 Speaker 1: bad hit against the Eagles, and I know he was 42 00:02:19,238 --> 00:02:22,798 Speaker 1: heading for surgery. Yeah, thanks for having me. Um. He's 43 00:02:22,798 --> 00:02:27,878 Speaker 1: doing good. He's just been rehabbing prior to surgery. You know. 44 00:02:27,918 --> 00:02:31,078 Speaker 1: I just wanted things to calm down. And doctor Meister 45 00:02:31,878 --> 00:02:34,918 Speaker 1: is who we're using, and he's he's just very cautious. 46 00:02:35,558 --> 00:02:40,398 Speaker 1: So that'll be happening this Friday. And got a great 47 00:02:40,478 --> 00:02:44,838 Speaker 1: rehab therapist that we're going to and after Friday we'll 48 00:02:44,958 --> 00:02:48,398 Speaker 1: get things rolling and get them healthy. Hey Joe, please 49 00:02:48,398 --> 00:02:51,878 Speaker 1: tell me, please tell me you didn't release Sean Purdy 50 00:02:51,918 --> 00:02:55,118 Speaker 1: because we've already had one guest show, Kenny Grant Well 51 00:02:55,318 --> 00:02:57,878 Speaker 1: let go out of the Angels organization, So please tell 52 00:02:57,918 --> 00:03:00,718 Speaker 1: me your fingerprints were not on this one too. No person, 53 00:03:01,118 --> 00:03:02,518 Speaker 1: I was already in the big leagues. I went to 54 00:03:02,558 --> 00:03:06,518 Speaker 1: the big leagues as an excuse me bullpen coach with 55 00:03:06,558 --> 00:03:09,078 Speaker 1: Marcel Lashman, and Sean would still turn it up with 56 00:03:09,198 --> 00:03:13,678 Speaker 1: the Angels. Actually, his career really took off once he 57 00:03:13,798 --> 00:03:15,918 Speaker 1: did leave the Angels. Although I do want to mention 58 00:03:15,958 --> 00:03:18,078 Speaker 1: something I didn't even wasn't even aware of this because 59 00:03:18,118 --> 00:03:20,238 Speaker 1: I was looking up your numbers today. Do you realize 60 00:03:20,238 --> 00:03:22,358 Speaker 1: how many innings you pitched in rookie ball with Cotch 61 00:03:22,438 --> 00:03:26,118 Speaker 1: in Boise? Yeah? Right, that was awesome. I mean, this 62 00:03:26,278 --> 00:03:30,758 Speaker 1: never happens. He had where was it ninety five innings 63 00:03:30,838 --> 00:03:33,918 Speaker 1: pitched in a half season in Boise coming out of Miami. 64 00:03:34,398 --> 00:03:38,718 Speaker 1: That would never zero possibility of that happening today. And 65 00:03:38,758 --> 00:03:40,518 Speaker 1: then it goes right and follows that up in the 66 00:03:40,558 --> 00:03:44,158 Speaker 1: next year with one sixty eight in Palm Springs again, 67 00:03:44,398 --> 00:03:46,878 Speaker 1: thirteen and eight record in Palm Springs, eight and four 68 00:03:47,638 --> 00:03:50,598 Speaker 1: in Boise. And the thing that really stands up pers 69 00:03:50,798 --> 00:03:53,638 Speaker 1: is like your overall record fifty eight and thirty seven 70 00:03:54,278 --> 00:03:57,038 Speaker 1: equals winner. You're You're a winner, You're a winning player. 71 00:03:57,598 --> 00:04:02,678 Speaker 1: And there's such a strong correlation to with your son 72 00:04:02,718 --> 00:04:06,478 Speaker 1: has been doing because being drafted last, there was a 73 00:04:06,478 --> 00:04:08,878 Speaker 1: lot of people that had passed on it. But it's 74 00:04:08,878 --> 00:04:12,798 Speaker 1: really hard to understand or evaluate heart desire and those 75 00:04:12,798 --> 00:04:15,598 Speaker 1: guys that are just winners. So talk about that a 76 00:04:15,638 --> 00:04:20,358 Speaker 1: little bit, because absolutely Rock has received that gene chip 77 00:04:20,438 --> 00:04:25,798 Speaker 1: from you. Well, first, I'll go back to Boise with Kachman. 78 00:04:26,398 --> 00:04:28,558 Speaker 1: Several times he came to take me out and I 79 00:04:28,598 --> 00:04:31,798 Speaker 1: wouldn't come out. So he's like, give me the ball, 80 00:04:31,838 --> 00:04:35,798 Speaker 1: and I'm like, no, I got this. So that's how 81 00:04:35,838 --> 00:04:39,638 Speaker 1: I bought a few extra annings there. Yeah, it's just 82 00:04:39,798 --> 00:04:43,398 Speaker 1: you know, both Brock and I, you know, we weren't 83 00:04:43,438 --> 00:04:48,798 Speaker 1: blessed with six foot four height or whatever, so you 84 00:04:48,918 --> 00:04:51,958 Speaker 1: just had to get the most out of your body. 85 00:04:53,038 --> 00:04:56,398 Speaker 1: So you know, you gotta be technically sound and so on, 86 00:04:56,718 --> 00:05:00,358 Speaker 1: and you know your preparation has to be at a 87 00:05:00,358 --> 00:05:02,998 Speaker 1: whole other level because you know, a lot of people 88 00:05:03,038 --> 00:05:07,558 Speaker 1: get away with just raw talent and um so you know, 89 00:05:07,598 --> 00:05:10,838 Speaker 1: the both of us also, you know, you just you know, 90 00:05:10,918 --> 00:05:13,638 Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't. I got drafted in the sixteenth round. 91 00:05:14,158 --> 00:05:18,038 Speaker 1: Um back then, I don't know there was sixty and uh, 92 00:05:18,078 --> 00:05:20,798 Speaker 1: you know, he just he had something you wanted to 93 00:05:20,878 --> 00:05:26,398 Speaker 1: prove and mostly to yourself, you know, and I just 94 00:05:26,478 --> 00:05:29,638 Speaker 1: felt like, I'm I'm I'm gonna leave on my terms. 95 00:05:30,318 --> 00:05:33,358 Speaker 1: I'm proud to say I never got released. Um so 96 00:05:33,678 --> 00:05:37,078 Speaker 1: I just, uh, every game was a big game and 97 00:05:37,158 --> 00:05:40,278 Speaker 1: you felt like it was your last and um, you know, 98 00:05:40,318 --> 00:05:42,838 Speaker 1: you just always wanted to play with no regrets. Did 99 00:05:42,838 --> 00:05:45,638 Speaker 1: you actually have this kind of conversation with Brock talking 100 00:05:45,678 --> 00:05:50,118 Speaker 1: about your career and your your personal philosophy on how 101 00:05:50,118 --> 00:05:52,998 Speaker 1: to get this done because there had been I guess 102 00:05:53,038 --> 00:05:56,318 Speaker 1: not maybe disappointment, but being drafted last, he might have 103 00:05:56,358 --> 00:05:58,638 Speaker 1: been expecting to go sooner than that. Was there any 104 00:05:58,718 --> 00:06:00,838 Speaker 1: kind of like little sit down talk you had with 105 00:06:00,918 --> 00:06:05,598 Speaker 1: him to really reassure him and draw the parallels between 106 00:06:05,598 --> 00:06:08,038 Speaker 1: how you got to the point that you did and 107 00:06:08,038 --> 00:06:10,318 Speaker 1: where it was going to take him in his football career. 108 00:06:10,998 --> 00:06:14,998 Speaker 1: Um no, I never really talked too much about my career. 109 00:06:15,158 --> 00:06:20,158 Speaker 1: I just talked about working hard and preparing yourself. You know, 110 00:06:20,278 --> 00:06:23,318 Speaker 1: we would throw bullpens when we were younger, and if 111 00:06:23,358 --> 00:06:26,678 Speaker 1: you could remember Howie Gershberg, of course I lived and 112 00:06:26,718 --> 00:06:32,318 Speaker 1: died off of his mechanics. And you know long bullpens 113 00:06:32,358 --> 00:06:35,438 Speaker 1: with both boys where they're like you gotta be kidding me, 114 00:06:35,758 --> 00:06:40,598 Speaker 1: aren't we done? And I'm like nope. And so I 115 00:06:40,638 --> 00:06:45,038 Speaker 1: think that carried over into everything that both boys do. 116 00:06:45,718 --> 00:06:48,998 Speaker 1: And um, you know, Brock won't do something. He's not 117 00:06:49,118 --> 00:06:54,038 Speaker 1: done until he feels it's right, and so that's just uh, 118 00:06:54,678 --> 00:06:59,038 Speaker 1: you know where his work ethics started and his determination. 119 00:06:59,118 --> 00:07:02,398 Speaker 1: He's had it ever since he was little, and he 120 00:07:02,438 --> 00:07:06,438 Speaker 1: doesn't like to lose, and so on his end of things, 121 00:07:06,518 --> 00:07:09,918 Speaker 1: he's going to do everything he can to um, you know, 122 00:07:10,038 --> 00:07:14,318 Speaker 1: give his team what he can to win. UM. I 123 00:07:14,438 --> 00:07:16,758 Speaker 1: was the same way. You know, if I lost, if 124 00:07:16,798 --> 00:07:18,638 Speaker 1: we lost, I felt like it was my fault. I 125 00:07:18,638 --> 00:07:21,918 Speaker 1: shouldn't have gave up that hit or even that ground ball. 126 00:07:21,998 --> 00:07:25,358 Speaker 1: I felt like I should just get everybody out. And UM. 127 00:07:25,518 --> 00:07:29,598 Speaker 1: You know with that mindset, UM, you know, it just 128 00:07:30,438 --> 00:07:33,838 Speaker 1: produces I think, a winning a winning attitude. Hey, Sean, 129 00:07:33,918 --> 00:07:36,598 Speaker 1: Joe mentioned that, you know, once he left the Angels 130 00:07:36,598 --> 00:07:38,678 Speaker 1: signed out with the Giants, he got a really nice 131 00:07:38,758 --> 00:07:41,318 Speaker 1: run for them, pitching his back end the bullpens, putting 132 00:07:41,358 --> 00:07:43,958 Speaker 1: up good numbers, getting the Triple A. I mean, overall, 133 00:07:44,038 --> 00:07:47,198 Speaker 1: your My League career was outstanding. As Joe mentioned, career 134 00:07:47,398 --> 00:07:50,518 Speaker 1: three ERA under four. Did you think at one point there, 135 00:07:50,598 --> 00:07:53,078 Speaker 1: especially with the Giants, you were on the doorstep of 136 00:07:53,118 --> 00:07:55,878 Speaker 1: getting a call to get to the big leagues. Uh, 137 00:07:56,558 --> 00:08:01,118 Speaker 1: there was one time I was I started off rough, 138 00:08:01,758 --> 00:08:05,078 Speaker 1: you know, UM in that season. Now I was in 139 00:08:05,118 --> 00:08:09,638 Speaker 1: Triple A and we were in pomp we were in 140 00:08:10,038 --> 00:08:13,958 Speaker 1: Colorado Springs, and I had a real good long stretch 141 00:08:13,998 --> 00:08:17,358 Speaker 1: of scoreless innings and I had learned to finally just 142 00:08:17,678 --> 00:08:24,638 Speaker 1: let it go and quit hanging on. And the Dick 143 00:08:24,678 --> 00:08:27,318 Speaker 1: Tiedro was in town and we're down on the bullpen 144 00:08:27,438 --> 00:08:31,078 Speaker 1: and and I had just thrown the night prior, and 145 00:08:31,238 --> 00:08:33,998 Speaker 1: the guys I heard, you're out of here, man, you 146 00:08:34,038 --> 00:08:37,558 Speaker 1: know the way you're pitching, and this and that, and um, 147 00:08:37,678 --> 00:08:39,678 Speaker 1: I remember getting goose bumps and I'm like, hey, man, 148 00:08:39,718 --> 00:08:43,718 Speaker 1: you know what, they might be right and m boom, 149 00:08:43,838 --> 00:08:49,878 Speaker 1: we get a big blockbuster trade, Wilson Alvarez, Danny Darwin. Um, 150 00:08:50,038 --> 00:08:52,678 Speaker 1: there was somebody else in on it that came over 151 00:08:52,758 --> 00:08:55,478 Speaker 1: from the White Sox. And then we sent a bunch 152 00:08:55,478 --> 00:08:59,758 Speaker 1: of prospects over and I was like, man, so um, 153 00:09:01,158 --> 00:09:03,998 Speaker 1: I felt like I was close to that time. I 154 00:09:03,998 --> 00:09:06,878 Speaker 1: could have been wrong. And then when I was with 155 00:09:06,918 --> 00:09:10,038 Speaker 1: the Braves, I was doing really well and a lot 156 00:09:10,038 --> 00:09:14,918 Speaker 1: of guys were getting hurt. You know. John Rocker went up, 157 00:09:14,998 --> 00:09:19,718 Speaker 1: Rudy Cnez went up, and I think Carry Lettenberg went down, 158 00:09:19,838 --> 00:09:22,838 Speaker 1: and and I was pitching against the Brewers they were 159 00:09:22,838 --> 00:09:26,678 Speaker 1: in Louisville, had a good game, but I dropped down 160 00:09:26,718 --> 00:09:31,558 Speaker 1: on a pitch and I felt something kept pitching and 161 00:09:31,878 --> 00:09:34,478 Speaker 1: h you know, the next day I was. I just 162 00:09:34,598 --> 00:09:37,478 Speaker 1: left it alone and and my agent called me and said, 163 00:09:37,478 --> 00:09:41,918 Speaker 1: hey man, there's rumblings of you going up. And as 164 00:09:41,918 --> 00:09:45,398 Speaker 1: I was walking by my pitching coach, he was talking 165 00:09:45,438 --> 00:09:47,638 Speaker 1: to another pitcher and he says, yeah, I've heard he's 166 00:09:47,638 --> 00:09:50,278 Speaker 1: out of here in a couple of days. And so 167 00:09:50,318 --> 00:09:53,398 Speaker 1: I go down. I mean, I was like dizzy when 168 00:09:53,438 --> 00:09:55,678 Speaker 1: I heard it, because I was like, wow, man, this 169 00:09:55,798 --> 00:09:58,518 Speaker 1: is the Braves. This Maddox and Glad and Glavin and 170 00:09:58,678 --> 00:10:03,598 Speaker 1: Schmoltz were you know, up there. And so as I'm 171 00:10:03,638 --> 00:10:06,478 Speaker 1: at EP, I'm tossing balls in and I'm like, man, 172 00:10:06,558 --> 00:10:10,198 Speaker 1: it doesn't feel right. So the next night they asked 173 00:10:10,238 --> 00:10:12,838 Speaker 1: me to get up in the pen, and luckily I 174 00:10:12,878 --> 00:10:14,718 Speaker 1: didn't go in, and I went and told the trainer. 175 00:10:14,758 --> 00:10:18,798 Speaker 1: I said, hey man, my elbow's not right. And they 176 00:10:18,838 --> 00:10:22,478 Speaker 1: flew me to Atlanta, got you know, the needle and 177 00:10:22,558 --> 00:10:28,318 Speaker 1: the elbow, and tried rehabbing for a bit and didn't 178 00:10:28,318 --> 00:10:30,838 Speaker 1: take and went in had surgery and had some bone 179 00:10:30,838 --> 00:10:35,238 Speaker 1: spurs removed and so on, and and that was it. 180 00:10:35,878 --> 00:10:38,838 Speaker 1: I was, my elbow was fine. I just chose my 181 00:10:38,878 --> 00:10:42,918 Speaker 1: business started taking off. I just chose to uh, you know, 182 00:10:43,238 --> 00:10:48,438 Speaker 1: be a big league dad, and you know, start my business. Yeah, 183 00:10:48,478 --> 00:10:51,958 Speaker 1: you said something there that's really fascinating, interesting, something I've 184 00:10:51,958 --> 00:10:56,198 Speaker 1: actually been pondering more recently. Your career kind of took 185 00:10:56,238 --> 00:10:59,478 Speaker 1: off almost when you said I'm just gonna let it go. 186 00:10:59,798 --> 00:11:03,078 Speaker 1: You almost relinquished control. Like in other words, all those 187 00:11:03,118 --> 00:11:05,398 Speaker 1: different thoughts, mechanical thoughts that you had in your head 188 00:11:05,438 --> 00:11:08,398 Speaker 1: before you throw the pitch, all that that grinding, tension 189 00:11:08,558 --> 00:11:12,598 Speaker 1: filled kind of delivery of the ball. You finally and 190 00:11:12,918 --> 00:11:15,158 Speaker 1: I agree with this. It takes time, and there's well, 191 00:11:15,238 --> 00:11:17,518 Speaker 1: I'll have our epiphanies at different moments, but when you 192 00:11:17,958 --> 00:11:22,638 Speaker 1: almost like say screw it, I'm giving up control because 193 00:11:23,278 --> 00:11:26,118 Speaker 1: we always want to be in control. But sometimes weirdly 194 00:11:26,238 --> 00:11:29,918 Speaker 1: by by relinquishing control that you become even more in control. 195 00:11:30,398 --> 00:11:34,198 Speaker 1: Is that kind of what you experienced? Absolutely? Um, you 196 00:11:34,198 --> 00:11:37,118 Speaker 1: know your white knuckle on that ball. Yeah, and so 197 00:11:37,198 --> 00:11:39,958 Speaker 1: now it can't do what it needs to do. And 198 00:11:40,078 --> 00:11:45,038 Speaker 1: when I m who's the Ken Revisa? My boy? He 199 00:11:45,758 --> 00:11:48,798 Speaker 1: comes to spring training. Yeah, he's telling all this stuff. 200 00:11:48,838 --> 00:11:51,398 Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, get this long haired guy out of here. 201 00:11:51,438 --> 00:11:54,198 Speaker 1: I don't need it with the big nose. And I 202 00:11:54,278 --> 00:11:55,918 Speaker 1: hit a bad streak and I'm like, all right, man, 203 00:11:55,958 --> 00:11:58,918 Speaker 1: what was that dude talking about it? Spring training? And 204 00:11:59,038 --> 00:12:03,198 Speaker 1: I really started using that stuff more so when I 205 00:12:03,238 --> 00:12:06,758 Speaker 1: was with the Giant and I remember the game I 206 00:12:06,918 --> 00:12:10,438 Speaker 1: was playing against the Rangers and it's almost I look 207 00:12:10,638 --> 00:12:14,438 Speaker 1: behind me, I'm like, who's throwing these pitches? Because they're 208 00:12:14,518 --> 00:12:17,838 Speaker 1: going where I want them to almost every every time. 209 00:12:18,718 --> 00:12:22,718 Speaker 1: And that's what I bought into inhale, exhale, let it go. 210 00:12:23,478 --> 00:12:26,278 Speaker 1: Um you know, me being a man of faith as well, 211 00:12:26,318 --> 00:12:30,678 Speaker 1: I'm spiritually, I just let that thing go too, and um, 212 00:12:30,718 --> 00:12:35,358 Speaker 1: I started becoming the pitcher um that that my mind 213 00:12:35,558 --> 00:12:39,038 Speaker 1: wanted to be where the body was ready. It's just 214 00:12:39,158 --> 00:12:41,918 Speaker 1: you know, it was time to let the mind, you know, 215 00:12:42,918 --> 00:12:46,678 Speaker 1: make its play. Everybody wants to do that. Everybody wants 216 00:12:46,678 --> 00:12:49,318 Speaker 1: to be that guy, that tension free player. Some do 217 00:12:49,358 --> 00:12:51,358 Speaker 1: it naturally. We could talk about all the great players 218 00:12:51,398 --> 00:12:53,918 Speaker 1: that we've been around, whether it's baseball, you've witnessed in football, 219 00:12:54,438 --> 00:12:58,838 Speaker 1: there's there's a natural ability about these guys that there's 220 00:12:58,878 --> 00:13:00,918 Speaker 1: the best way to describe it as a tension free 221 00:13:00,918 --> 00:13:03,758 Speaker 1: approach to doing everything. And then there's that group that 222 00:13:04,038 --> 00:13:06,718 Speaker 1: always looks like they're trying really hard. You know I 223 00:13:06,798 --> 00:13:08,238 Speaker 1: was one of that arsty. I used to have this 224 00:13:08,558 --> 00:13:12,638 Speaker 1: conversation with dar Nurstead. We always are accused of being 225 00:13:12,718 --> 00:13:16,438 Speaker 1: hustlers and playing hard and trying hard because we're always 226 00:13:16,478 --> 00:13:18,838 Speaker 1: grinding things out and we just don't have that ability 227 00:13:19,358 --> 00:13:22,478 Speaker 1: to be the tension free player where things just happen naturally. 228 00:13:22,518 --> 00:13:24,838 Speaker 1: It's almost like your arms a whip as opposed to 229 00:13:24,878 --> 00:13:27,638 Speaker 1: a chain of events. And I cannot agree with more man. 230 00:13:27,718 --> 00:13:31,358 Speaker 1: It's like I'm saying all this because of kids are 231 00:13:31,358 --> 00:13:34,398 Speaker 1: listening or coaches are listening. It's so important to be 232 00:13:34,478 --> 00:13:36,558 Speaker 1: able to ride at that point, and everybody wants to 233 00:13:36,558 --> 00:13:39,798 Speaker 1: be mister Goodrich and arrivee at a mechanical solution or conclusion, 234 00:13:40,238 --> 00:13:43,318 Speaker 1: but it really comes to mentally. It's it's what you 235 00:13:43,438 --> 00:13:45,758 Speaker 1: do with the mind, which is pretty much as the 236 00:13:45,798 --> 00:13:48,678 Speaker 1: seasons in progress, the mental component of the game at 237 00:13:48,758 --> 00:13:51,238 Speaker 1: least takes seventy five to eighty percent of your success 238 00:13:51,238 --> 00:13:54,598 Speaker 1: over as the season continues to get longer. So I 239 00:13:54,878 --> 00:13:57,238 Speaker 1: really appreciate you bringing that up. I know would just happened, 240 00:13:57,238 --> 00:14:00,318 Speaker 1: but you almost have to relinquish control to gain control. 241 00:14:00,398 --> 00:14:04,558 Speaker 1: That's that's what I believe. If you prepare yourself you know, 242 00:14:05,158 --> 00:14:09,038 Speaker 1: to the highest level, and then the mental part is 243 00:14:09,078 --> 00:14:14,478 Speaker 1: ready to trust what you've done. Then you're gonna do 244 00:14:14,518 --> 00:14:18,238 Speaker 1: amazing things right on it's well done. It reminds me 245 00:14:18,278 --> 00:14:20,958 Speaker 1: of the most famous story I heard along those lines, guys. 246 00:14:21,398 --> 00:14:23,958 Speaker 1: Involved a pitcher in the sixties for the Dodgers who 247 00:14:23,998 --> 00:14:26,118 Speaker 1: was really wild and one day he was pitching in 248 00:14:26,158 --> 00:14:29,398 Speaker 1: a B game in Orlando where the major league's staff 249 00:14:29,798 --> 00:14:32,838 Speaker 1: remained in Bureau Beach for the main game, so he 250 00:14:32,878 --> 00:14:35,238 Speaker 1: didn't have the major league staff there, and he was 251 00:14:35,278 --> 00:14:37,678 Speaker 1: talking with this catcher about taking a different approach, and 252 00:14:37,718 --> 00:14:40,198 Speaker 1: as he put it, I took the grunt out of 253 00:14:40,238 --> 00:14:43,598 Speaker 1: it in terms of his fastball. And that was Sandy Kovax. 254 00:14:43,718 --> 00:14:46,118 Speaker 1: And if you ask Sandy Kovax, he will blot out 255 00:14:46,198 --> 00:14:49,598 Speaker 1: tell you there was that one day where it just 256 00:14:49,798 --> 00:14:52,798 Speaker 1: flipped for him, and taking the grunt out of the 257 00:14:52,838 --> 00:14:57,438 Speaker 1: fastball is something that man that the way he described it, Sean, 258 00:14:58,118 --> 00:14:59,878 Speaker 1: it brought me back to what you were just saying 259 00:14:59,918 --> 00:15:02,758 Speaker 1: about your ease on the mounds. As George Brett says, 260 00:15:02,838 --> 00:15:07,238 Speaker 1: don't try it harder, right, easier, yep. And I didn't 261 00:15:07,278 --> 00:15:11,438 Speaker 1: figure it out till the end, unfortunately, you know, you know, 262 00:15:11,478 --> 00:15:14,678 Speaker 1: I have my elbow issue there, and but I had it, 263 00:15:15,278 --> 00:15:19,638 Speaker 1: you know, and then I was really studying Greg maddox 264 00:15:19,718 --> 00:15:22,238 Speaker 1: man and I'm just like, that's the way I should 265 00:15:22,238 --> 00:15:26,078 Speaker 1: be doing it. And so I did take the grunt 266 00:15:26,118 --> 00:15:29,958 Speaker 1: out and just started, you know, moving stuff around and 267 00:15:30,078 --> 00:15:33,198 Speaker 1: changing speeds and you know, just letting the ball go 268 00:15:33,278 --> 00:15:35,798 Speaker 1: where it needed to. And um, yeah, you take the 269 00:15:35,878 --> 00:15:38,878 Speaker 1: grunt out, you know, things change. Well, pitching is hard, 270 00:15:38,958 --> 00:15:40,878 Speaker 1: we know that. I want to ask Sean what it's 271 00:15:40,918 --> 00:15:44,558 Speaker 1: like being an NFL dad sitting in the stands watching 272 00:15:44,598 --> 00:15:47,558 Speaker 1: your son play in the NFL. We will explore that 273 00:15:47,598 --> 00:16:00,758 Speaker 1: topic when we get back on the Fucking Joe Podcast. So, 274 00:16:00,878 --> 00:16:03,558 Speaker 1: Sean being an NFL dad, I mean, we're all NFL 275 00:16:03,638 --> 00:16:07,478 Speaker 1: fans love watching the game, but when your heart is 276 00:16:07,838 --> 00:16:10,878 Speaker 1: entrenched in what's going on in that field, tell me 277 00:16:10,958 --> 00:16:13,758 Speaker 1: what it's like, especially that first game when Brock Finding 278 00:16:13,838 --> 00:16:15,718 Speaker 1: had a chance to play after starting the years a 279 00:16:15,798 --> 00:16:19,358 Speaker 1: third string quarterback. Understanding, of course, not only you love 280 00:16:19,398 --> 00:16:21,598 Speaker 1: your son, but you know better than anybody all the 281 00:16:21,638 --> 00:16:24,798 Speaker 1: work it took to get there. Yeah. Well, first of all, 282 00:16:24,838 --> 00:16:27,638 Speaker 1: there are no words. Everybody wants an answer, and I 283 00:16:27,678 --> 00:16:30,078 Speaker 1: can't give it to him. Because even I'm like, I 284 00:16:30,118 --> 00:16:32,118 Speaker 1: don't know what to tell you, you know, but the 285 00:16:32,198 --> 00:16:36,638 Speaker 1: gut wrench compared to pitching and playing and all that 286 00:16:37,238 --> 00:16:40,838 Speaker 1: is just you can't even compare it. Man, because of 287 00:16:41,238 --> 00:16:46,318 Speaker 1: seeing your son works so hard his whole life. I mean, 288 00:16:46,318 --> 00:16:49,518 Speaker 1: this kid has been business. You know, we would have 289 00:16:49,558 --> 00:16:53,998 Speaker 1: Super Bowl parties and while the other kids are outside playing, 290 00:16:54,558 --> 00:16:58,038 Speaker 1: Brock's sitting on the coffee table watching the game and 291 00:16:58,358 --> 00:17:02,798 Speaker 1: we're talking five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, whatever, just 292 00:17:03,238 --> 00:17:06,558 Speaker 1: watching and seeing what he would do and so on 293 00:17:06,718 --> 00:17:10,558 Speaker 1: and and um, so just seeing how hard and how 294 00:17:10,638 --> 00:17:13,958 Speaker 1: much he loves the game. See see he loves the game. 295 00:17:14,878 --> 00:17:19,958 Speaker 1: Um and uh so um as a dad, you see 296 00:17:19,998 --> 00:17:23,318 Speaker 1: all that hard work that's been put in and then 297 00:17:23,358 --> 00:17:27,878 Speaker 1: to see it unfold is uh. Man, the euphoria of 298 00:17:27,918 --> 00:17:31,718 Speaker 1: it is just unbelievable. And I'm just you know, happy 299 00:17:31,798 --> 00:17:34,278 Speaker 1: for him. Has nothing to do with mom and dad 300 00:17:34,318 --> 00:17:37,198 Speaker 1: and and it's just um, you know, happy for him 301 00:17:37,238 --> 00:17:40,958 Speaker 1: and knowing uh, the uphill climb. You know, you're not 302 00:17:41,038 --> 00:17:43,478 Speaker 1: big enough, if you're not this or that or whatever, 303 00:17:44,238 --> 00:17:48,478 Speaker 1: and m to see him never doubt himself and um 304 00:17:48,518 --> 00:17:52,398 Speaker 1: and stay faithful. Um, just so exciting. I mean that's 305 00:17:52,438 --> 00:17:55,598 Speaker 1: that's kind of uh, he'd say, obvious to me because 306 00:17:55,598 --> 00:17:58,318 Speaker 1: I know you, but I watch it. First of all, 307 00:17:58,318 --> 00:17:59,878 Speaker 1: I didn't know even know it was your son. I mean, 308 00:17:59,878 --> 00:18:04,398 Speaker 1: I'm golfing with Darl Scott and Brett Crane at Whrolwin. 309 00:18:04,438 --> 00:18:06,758 Speaker 1: All of a sudden they said Karnin. Karnin didn't even 310 00:18:06,758 --> 00:18:11,158 Speaker 1: know that, uh he was, but he was Purdy's son 311 00:18:11,838 --> 00:18:14,398 Speaker 1: or Purse's son. I said, wait a second, who I 312 00:18:14,398 --> 00:18:15,838 Speaker 1: didn't either who were talking about it? And And then he 313 00:18:15,838 --> 00:18:17,478 Speaker 1: said a brock and he got to be kidding me. 314 00:18:17,678 --> 00:18:19,678 Speaker 1: And that's where this all started up, because I didn't know. 315 00:18:19,718 --> 00:18:22,238 Speaker 1: I didn't know as your kid. Um. But then but 316 00:18:22,318 --> 00:18:25,678 Speaker 1: then I'm watching him play and remembering you, and it's 317 00:18:25,718 --> 00:18:27,678 Speaker 1: it's it is a chip off the old block. It's 318 00:18:27,678 --> 00:18:31,598 Speaker 1: a different game. Um. Obviously he's been able to get 319 00:18:31,598 --> 00:18:33,278 Speaker 1: it rolling a little bit, a little bit sooner than 320 00:18:33,318 --> 00:18:36,678 Speaker 1: you did, but watching it again, overachieving in a sense, 321 00:18:36,998 --> 00:18:39,718 Speaker 1: if that's even an accurate word. It's just that you 322 00:18:39,718 --> 00:18:42,398 Speaker 1: you wanted it more badly or more than some other 323 00:18:42,438 --> 00:18:45,118 Speaker 1: people have or had, and he appears to be the 324 00:18:45,158 --> 00:18:48,638 Speaker 1: same way. And uh so, once I got that context, 325 00:18:48,638 --> 00:18:51,198 Speaker 1: I'm watching him with a different set of eyeballs because 326 00:18:51,238 --> 00:18:53,798 Speaker 1: again you as a competitor, as a pitcher, we're not 327 00:18:53,838 --> 00:18:57,158 Speaker 1: going to be denied you eventually with the giants kind 328 00:18:57,158 --> 00:19:00,238 Speaker 1: of get to your all of your abilities, just based 329 00:19:00,238 --> 00:19:03,438 Speaker 1: by not about a physical adjustment, but a mental adjustment. 330 00:19:03,958 --> 00:19:06,758 Speaker 1: With him, does he really talk to mental game of football? 331 00:19:06,998 --> 00:19:09,478 Speaker 1: Or is he more mechanically incliners at a combination as 332 00:19:09,518 --> 00:19:12,318 Speaker 1: he balanced it out? Well, how does that work with him? Um? 333 00:19:13,638 --> 00:19:20,118 Speaker 1: The mechanical the mental part, No, because he's more advanced 334 00:19:20,158 --> 00:19:25,038 Speaker 1: than I've ever been or will be. And m so 335 00:19:26,478 --> 00:19:30,278 Speaker 1: just more of if anything, you know, things didn't go 336 00:19:30,398 --> 00:19:34,718 Speaker 1: his way or whatever, sharing with him that I understand 337 00:19:34,718 --> 00:19:39,238 Speaker 1: how you're feeling right now, and um and as far 338 00:19:39,438 --> 00:19:44,518 Speaker 1: as his play, you know, just some decisions or whatever. 339 00:19:45,358 --> 00:19:50,278 Speaker 1: But as far as the mental thing, um goes, there's 340 00:19:50,318 --> 00:19:55,318 Speaker 1: a point where I was able to let go and 341 00:19:56,158 --> 00:20:01,638 Speaker 1: of him and you know all that stuff is. You know, 342 00:20:02,078 --> 00:20:06,198 Speaker 1: he does a better job that I ever did of 343 00:20:06,758 --> 00:20:09,918 Speaker 1: put it in in the trash and move forward. I'll tell 344 00:20:09,918 --> 00:20:12,438 Speaker 1: you what the game itself creates, that football creates that 345 00:20:12,478 --> 00:20:13,998 Speaker 1: I did play a little bit. I did play when 346 00:20:14,038 --> 00:20:16,438 Speaker 1: you're in college. But the beauty about football is the 347 00:20:16,478 --> 00:20:20,518 Speaker 1: moment you get hit, you absolutely jump into the present tense. 348 00:20:20,558 --> 00:20:23,478 Speaker 1: There is no pastors, no future, It's present, and that's 349 00:20:23,478 --> 00:20:25,638 Speaker 1: the beauty of that particular game. You could be like 350 00:20:25,718 --> 00:20:27,718 Speaker 1: throw up sick before the game is ready to begin. 351 00:20:28,038 --> 00:20:30,038 Speaker 1: You could be like confused, and I can remember all 352 00:20:30,038 --> 00:20:33,038 Speaker 1: the stuff, my plays, my calls, my reads, whatever, But 353 00:20:33,198 --> 00:20:36,678 Speaker 1: the moment, the moment you get smoked or just bumped 354 00:20:36,758 --> 00:20:39,038 Speaker 1: or hit or whatever, that goes away, and all of 355 00:20:39,078 --> 00:20:41,638 Speaker 1: a sudden you get back to like Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, 356 00:20:41,638 --> 00:20:44,678 Speaker 1: Friday at practice, your trainee takes over. So that's that 357 00:20:44,798 --> 00:20:46,358 Speaker 1: is the beauty of the game. That's a once a 358 00:20:46,358 --> 00:20:49,838 Speaker 1: week game. And I think the fact that the game 359 00:20:49,878 --> 00:20:52,758 Speaker 1: itself really creates or causes you to remain in the 360 00:20:52,798 --> 00:20:55,478 Speaker 1: present tense is the beauty of that game too. Yeah, 361 00:20:56,038 --> 00:20:59,798 Speaker 1: and the beauty of football is when it's on. It's on. Yeah, 362 00:20:59,838 --> 00:21:04,198 Speaker 1: you know, there's there's no in between innings or or whatever. 363 00:21:04,398 --> 00:21:09,158 Speaker 1: So yeah, he's always done a great job of just 364 00:21:09,358 --> 00:21:13,398 Speaker 1: moving forward, and I've always been impressed with that. You know, Um, 365 00:21:13,638 --> 00:21:16,358 Speaker 1: it's so funny. We're watching some his old we had 366 00:21:16,358 --> 00:21:18,878 Speaker 1: some old videos. You know, he's home and we're watching 367 00:21:18,918 --> 00:21:24,598 Speaker 1: some old flag football videos and and and after that year, 368 00:21:24,758 --> 00:21:29,438 Speaker 1: after that season of you know, kid, he's crying because 369 00:21:29,478 --> 00:21:31,518 Speaker 1: the kid dropped it or this and that, and we're 370 00:21:31,558 --> 00:21:33,478 Speaker 1: telling man, you can't cry. Man, you got to pick 371 00:21:33,518 --> 00:21:36,398 Speaker 1: these guys up and so on and so forth, and 372 00:21:37,078 --> 00:21:40,838 Speaker 1: you just got to tell him once and boom that 373 00:21:40,958 --> 00:21:45,238 Speaker 1: was it. He never showed emotion playing there forward, in 374 00:21:45,398 --> 00:21:50,238 Speaker 1: youth or high school or college professional. And I just 375 00:21:50,318 --> 00:21:53,918 Speaker 1: admire him from that for that, because I was very 376 00:21:53,918 --> 00:21:59,438 Speaker 1: emotional up until probably my junior year in college when 377 00:21:59,478 --> 00:22:02,878 Speaker 1: I had a great game and my coach comes and 378 00:22:02,918 --> 00:22:05,678 Speaker 1: puts his arm around and says, dude, when are you 379 00:22:05,718 --> 00:22:08,118 Speaker 1: gonna quit doing this? And that I'm thinking he's gonna 380 00:22:08,118 --> 00:22:10,078 Speaker 1: pump me, you know, because of a good game I 381 00:22:10,198 --> 00:22:13,718 Speaker 1: just had, and he knocked me down. And from that 382 00:22:13,798 --> 00:22:17,958 Speaker 1: day forward, man, I showed no emotion. But once again, 383 00:22:18,238 --> 00:22:21,238 Speaker 1: I developed later than my son, you know, where he 384 00:22:21,358 --> 00:22:24,118 Speaker 1: was doing it a long time ago. Well, Sean, a 385 00:22:24,158 --> 00:22:27,638 Speaker 1: lot of fans now are watching the NFL combine, and 386 00:22:27,838 --> 00:22:32,718 Speaker 1: as you know, everything gets measured there. But clearly they 387 00:22:32,798 --> 00:22:35,958 Speaker 1: missed something on brock Right, a guy who's at Iowa 388 00:22:35,998 --> 00:22:39,638 Speaker 1: State started forty six games. I mean that experience alone 389 00:22:39,678 --> 00:22:42,758 Speaker 1: tells you something was a winner there. What do you 390 00:22:43,038 --> 00:22:48,238 Speaker 1: think they missed on Brock? Um, it's just you can't 391 00:22:48,238 --> 00:22:53,038 Speaker 1: get wrapped up in the numbers. You know, it's so tempting. 392 00:22:53,318 --> 00:22:58,118 Speaker 1: You know, in baseball, six foot four throws gas. But 393 00:22:58,238 --> 00:23:00,998 Speaker 1: you know how many strikes does this guy throw? You know, 394 00:23:00,998 --> 00:23:03,598 Speaker 1: does it give your team a chance? And you know 395 00:23:03,918 --> 00:23:07,278 Speaker 1: it applies, I guess in all sports when bullets are flying, 396 00:23:07,758 --> 00:23:12,398 Speaker 1: I just know that, Um, it's okay, It's okay. How 397 00:23:12,598 --> 00:23:17,478 Speaker 1: Brock's thing worked out because it's it's been the norm 398 00:23:17,598 --> 00:23:20,998 Speaker 1: for him, you know college, you know, the recruiting came 399 00:23:21,078 --> 00:23:24,278 Speaker 1: late and so on and so forth. And I always 400 00:23:24,318 --> 00:23:27,078 Speaker 1: felt that the NFL was going to unfold the same way. 401 00:23:27,558 --> 00:23:31,918 Speaker 1: And UM, you know, for me, UM, I wasn't surprised. 402 00:23:31,998 --> 00:23:34,318 Speaker 1: All I wanted was him to get his foot in 403 00:23:34,358 --> 00:23:37,318 Speaker 1: the door. And that's all he wanted. Everyone else that 404 00:23:37,438 --> 00:23:41,798 Speaker 1: loves him and knows him, you know, they were wanting more. Um, 405 00:23:42,398 --> 00:23:48,398 Speaker 1: But UM, it's okay. And so what did they miss? Um? 406 00:23:48,478 --> 00:23:51,878 Speaker 1: I don't know. I know his test scores, cognitive test 407 00:23:51,918 --> 00:23:54,838 Speaker 1: scores were really high, and and those guys were all 408 00:23:54,918 --> 00:24:00,478 Speaker 1: very aware of it, and so M I just whoever 409 00:24:01,198 --> 00:24:03,118 Speaker 1: was that was going to take a chance on him 410 00:24:03,358 --> 00:24:06,838 Speaker 1: for that would be the team that was was best 411 00:24:06,878 --> 00:24:09,718 Speaker 1: for Brock. And um. You know, there's a lot of 412 00:24:09,798 --> 00:24:13,678 Speaker 1: organizations in baseball that I really respected, and usually they're 413 00:24:13,718 --> 00:24:16,558 Speaker 1: the ones that are you know in it all the time. 414 00:24:17,238 --> 00:24:21,158 Speaker 1: Is they leave no stone unturned and um, you know, 415 00:24:21,198 --> 00:24:25,598 Speaker 1: they look at different things, these organizations. And then in football, 416 00:24:25,678 --> 00:24:28,838 Speaker 1: I really feel the Niners are one of those organizations, 417 00:24:28,878 --> 00:24:31,918 Speaker 1: and you know, they're always on the brink of making 418 00:24:31,918 --> 00:24:34,638 Speaker 1: it and they always come up with these guys man, 419 00:24:34,878 --> 00:24:36,798 Speaker 1: and um, you know back in the day when they 420 00:24:36,838 --> 00:24:39,918 Speaker 1: were winning Super Bowls, you know, every year they'd still 421 00:24:39,958 --> 00:24:42,558 Speaker 1: get you know, even though they're picking last, they're still 422 00:24:42,718 --> 00:24:46,358 Speaker 1: picking up an amazing running back and receiver and and 423 00:24:46,838 --> 00:24:49,838 Speaker 1: so on. So um, I was just hoping for somebody 424 00:24:49,918 --> 00:24:53,158 Speaker 1: like that, and when it was the Niners, I was like, wow, man, 425 00:24:53,198 --> 00:24:55,158 Speaker 1: this is a great place to learn, you know, even 426 00:24:55,198 --> 00:24:57,918 Speaker 1: if he doesn't stay there. And then it unfolded like 427 00:24:57,958 --> 00:25:00,198 Speaker 1: it did, and it's just just a just a blessing. 428 00:25:01,038 --> 00:25:03,678 Speaker 1: I mean again, you're talking about makeup, you're talking about character, 429 00:25:03,758 --> 00:25:05,838 Speaker 1: that kind of things that they're very hard to measure 430 00:25:06,038 --> 00:25:08,118 Speaker 1: when you can't really put a math equation on something 431 00:25:08,158 --> 00:25:10,598 Speaker 1: that kind of uh, it could kind of throw some 432 00:25:10,638 --> 00:25:14,598 Speaker 1: people for a loop. Um. That's where the old experienced scouts. 433 00:25:14,638 --> 00:25:16,358 Speaker 1: I don't even know how the NFL scout. I don't 434 00:25:16,358 --> 00:25:18,838 Speaker 1: even know, um, you know, to what extent it's just 435 00:25:18,918 --> 00:25:22,078 Speaker 1: all data and numbers. There's actually dudes out there. I 436 00:25:22,118 --> 00:25:24,478 Speaker 1: guess coaches really play big part in that, right with 437 00:25:24,518 --> 00:25:27,958 Speaker 1: the with the way the scott is today A well, man, 438 00:25:28,038 --> 00:25:30,078 Speaker 1: I don't know. All I know is, you know there's 439 00:25:30,078 --> 00:25:33,318 Speaker 1: coaches that know what they want and what they're looking for. Yeah, 440 00:25:33,358 --> 00:25:36,238 Speaker 1: and um, and then you know some guys are forced 441 00:25:37,078 --> 00:25:39,558 Speaker 1: um at the higher ups above them that you know, 442 00:25:39,598 --> 00:25:42,398 Speaker 1: they really get wrapped up in numbers and so on. Yeah, 443 00:25:42,438 --> 00:25:44,958 Speaker 1: and so you know you're just you know, lucky enough 444 00:25:45,078 --> 00:25:48,318 Speaker 1: to get guys that you know, dig a little deeper. Well. Yeah, 445 00:25:48,358 --> 00:25:50,598 Speaker 1: and that's and I think that's a cultural thing. It's 446 00:25:50,638 --> 00:25:53,478 Speaker 1: just depends on who your boss is and the culture 447 00:25:53,478 --> 00:25:55,878 Speaker 1: that's been established. And I would almost believe, like with 448 00:25:55,918 --> 00:25:58,238 Speaker 1: the Niners, they've been kind of steady over the years 449 00:25:58,238 --> 00:26:00,878 Speaker 1: and the way they're set up right now, they have 450 00:26:00,918 --> 00:26:03,398 Speaker 1: to have like a method that that goes deeper or 451 00:26:03,438 --> 00:26:06,998 Speaker 1: beyond just the typical stuff that everybody else is using, 452 00:26:07,558 --> 00:26:11,198 Speaker 1: and you are looking for, you know, the purties of 453 00:26:11,238 --> 00:26:13,238 Speaker 1: the world, guys that are under flying under the radar 454 00:26:13,278 --> 00:26:16,358 Speaker 1: a little bit. I would almost bet with Brock having 455 00:26:16,358 --> 00:26:17,958 Speaker 1: been a scout in the Pastor it's like the cool 456 00:26:18,038 --> 00:26:21,198 Speaker 1: guys table, you know, the scouts like like the certain 457 00:26:21,198 --> 00:26:23,158 Speaker 1: group of guys that are sitting at this one table. 458 00:26:23,438 --> 00:26:25,438 Speaker 1: And even though you might say, God, I like that 459 00:26:25,518 --> 00:26:27,958 Speaker 1: purty kid, but he's not sitting at the table, so 460 00:26:27,998 --> 00:26:30,158 Speaker 1: I can't really put my stamp of approval on him. 461 00:26:30,478 --> 00:26:33,358 Speaker 1: That's always bothered me as a baseball scout back in 462 00:26:33,398 --> 00:26:35,998 Speaker 1: the day because I would sit with all the scouts 463 00:26:35,998 --> 00:26:39,318 Speaker 1: behind home plate and they would always talk about certain guys, 464 00:26:39,318 --> 00:26:42,118 Speaker 1: but nobody was talking about Timmy Salmon in the first round, 465 00:26:42,118 --> 00:26:44,918 Speaker 1: which I could not believe. I thought Fish was definitely 466 00:26:44,958 --> 00:26:47,198 Speaker 1: a top fifteen pick the year that we got him 467 00:26:47,198 --> 00:26:50,278 Speaker 1: in the third round. That's just an example. So again 468 00:26:50,318 --> 00:26:53,398 Speaker 1: it's it's sometimes it creates a life form of its 469 00:26:53,438 --> 00:26:56,158 Speaker 1: own where scouts started to talk. And again I'm not 470 00:26:56,198 --> 00:26:58,278 Speaker 1: sure about the NFL, but I could talk about baseball 471 00:26:58,278 --> 00:27:00,238 Speaker 1: back in the day if you weren't at the cool 472 00:27:00,278 --> 00:27:03,078 Speaker 1: guys table. You're gonna you might get drafted. You will 473 00:27:03,118 --> 00:27:05,198 Speaker 1: get drafted, but it's not going to be in the 474 00:27:05,318 --> 00:27:09,198 Speaker 1: position that your talents really probably deserved, based on the 475 00:27:09,238 --> 00:27:12,918 Speaker 1: fact that not everybody's doing enough talking about you. Yeah, 476 00:27:13,398 --> 00:27:16,678 Speaker 1: and Brock never wanted to be talked about, to be 477 00:27:16,718 --> 00:27:23,518 Speaker 1: honest with you, and I've always respected that. And he's like, 478 00:27:23,958 --> 00:27:27,878 Speaker 1: he likes the challenge, you know. He the high school 479 00:27:27,878 --> 00:27:31,078 Speaker 1: he went to was sort of an upstar three four 480 00:27:31,158 --> 00:27:34,678 Speaker 1: or five years or whatever. And and you know, we 481 00:27:34,718 --> 00:27:38,278 Speaker 1: went to school out of Boundary and the place we 482 00:27:38,278 --> 00:27:40,918 Speaker 1: were at they just won state one or two times, 483 00:27:40,958 --> 00:27:43,558 Speaker 1: I think, and I'm like, man, are you sure you 484 00:27:43,598 --> 00:27:45,638 Speaker 1: want to do this? And he was like, you know, 485 00:27:45,838 --> 00:27:49,798 Speaker 1: very humbly, He's like, Nowadavil, go there and turn it around. 486 00:27:49,918 --> 00:27:53,958 Speaker 1: I'm like, all right, man, And sure enough, you know, 487 00:27:54,158 --> 00:27:57,158 Speaker 1: his junior year he took him to the semis and 488 00:27:57,158 --> 00:28:00,118 Speaker 1: then his senior year took him to the championship, you know, 489 00:28:00,198 --> 00:28:04,958 Speaker 1: fell short by a touchdown, and you know, hey, why 490 00:28:05,038 --> 00:28:07,478 Speaker 1: is he going to Iowa State? And he's like, you know, 491 00:28:07,518 --> 00:28:09,278 Speaker 1: I want to. I want to see what we can 492 00:28:09,278 --> 00:28:13,158 Speaker 1: do there, you know, And so he likes those challenges, 493 00:28:13,878 --> 00:28:17,438 Speaker 1: and um, he doesn't mind not being talked about and 494 00:28:17,918 --> 00:28:20,558 Speaker 1: m he likes to look back at that body of 495 00:28:20,638 --> 00:28:22,798 Speaker 1: work and go, wow, man, look look what we did. 496 00:28:23,358 --> 00:28:26,678 Speaker 1: And so it's just makes for I think, a more 497 00:28:26,838 --> 00:28:33,198 Speaker 1: satisfying story, you know, coming under the radar and then 498 00:28:33,278 --> 00:28:35,838 Speaker 1: looking back and say, hey, look what we did. It's 499 00:28:35,878 --> 00:28:39,638 Speaker 1: a great story. Mister irrelevant to the NSC Championship game. 500 00:28:39,678 --> 00:28:42,758 Speaker 1: I can't wait for the Netflix movie that eventually he's 501 00:28:42,758 --> 00:28:45,118 Speaker 1: gonna come out. If we're gonna take a quick break 502 00:28:45,158 --> 00:28:47,758 Speaker 1: when we come back, we'll finish up with our guest, 503 00:28:47,918 --> 00:29:00,718 Speaker 1: Sean Purdy. Welcome back in the Book of Joe podcast. 504 00:29:00,798 --> 00:29:03,438 Speaker 1: Our guest is Sean Purdy. We've talked a lot about 505 00:29:03,518 --> 00:29:06,038 Speaker 1: your minor league career, Sean, and one of the things 506 00:29:06,078 --> 00:29:09,398 Speaker 1: I looked at and like, like Brock as you mentioned, 507 00:29:09,398 --> 00:29:13,318 Speaker 1: not a big guy, didn't throw particularly hard. But I'm 508 00:29:13,358 --> 00:29:16,358 Speaker 1: sure you notice guys get by you who made the 509 00:29:16,438 --> 00:29:20,038 Speaker 1: major leagues by taking shortcuts. And that was the day, 510 00:29:20,078 --> 00:29:23,998 Speaker 1: back in the day when peeds were not regulated and 511 00:29:24,158 --> 00:29:27,638 Speaker 1: it became almost an accepted practice. I mean, I gotta 512 00:29:27,638 --> 00:29:30,398 Speaker 1: ask you, as a guy who got two triple A 513 00:29:31,038 --> 00:29:33,158 Speaker 1: and you had the numbers to be a major leaguer. 514 00:29:33,638 --> 00:29:35,558 Speaker 1: What did you make of what was going on around 515 00:29:35,558 --> 00:29:39,478 Speaker 1: professional baseball at that time? As far as peeds Man, 516 00:29:39,638 --> 00:29:42,998 Speaker 1: that didn't register with me until now I'm like, oh man, 517 00:29:43,118 --> 00:29:51,638 Speaker 1: that guy and it just didn't even come across my radar. Manum, 518 00:29:52,318 --> 00:29:54,638 Speaker 1: I didn't get wrapped up in it. I would, I would, 519 00:29:54,678 --> 00:29:57,678 Speaker 1: just you know, there's a lot of politics in baseball, 520 00:29:57,718 --> 00:30:00,998 Speaker 1: you know, and this guy knows that guy, and that 521 00:30:01,038 --> 00:30:03,758 Speaker 1: guy had that guy drafted or whatever, and it just 522 00:30:04,078 --> 00:30:06,398 Speaker 1: works out the way it does. And you know, I 523 00:30:06,478 --> 00:30:09,958 Speaker 1: just kept grinding and hope I would, uh, you know, 524 00:30:10,078 --> 00:30:13,598 Speaker 1: finally poke through and um, you know, just it didn't happen. 525 00:30:13,878 --> 00:30:17,718 Speaker 1: But in the end, you know, is when it dawned, 526 00:30:18,238 --> 00:30:21,718 Speaker 1: who was on it? Who wasn't. Yeah, I gotta ask 527 00:30:21,758 --> 00:30:23,958 Speaker 1: you too. We talked about you watching your son play. 528 00:30:24,078 --> 00:30:27,238 Speaker 1: What about when your son not only gets hurt in 529 00:30:27,318 --> 00:30:30,438 Speaker 1: the NFC Championship game, but then he goes back into 530 00:30:30,478 --> 00:30:35,238 Speaker 1: the game and he literally cannot throw the football because 531 00:30:35,278 --> 00:30:38,758 Speaker 1: there's no emergency quarterback available. There's not a rule for 532 00:30:38,798 --> 00:30:42,198 Speaker 1: the NFL in that situation. He goes back into the game. Yeah, 533 00:30:42,238 --> 00:30:44,758 Speaker 1: and you know, as a dad, he's hurt. What was 534 00:30:44,838 --> 00:30:47,878 Speaker 1: that like watching that. Well, when he threw a pass, 535 00:30:48,198 --> 00:30:54,118 Speaker 1: you know, that's because so I tore my ligament and 536 00:30:54,198 --> 00:30:56,518 Speaker 1: so I know what it feels like. I know what 537 00:30:56,598 --> 00:30:59,678 Speaker 1: it feels like to try to keep throwing where you 538 00:30:59,678 --> 00:31:03,038 Speaker 1: know his was torn way more than that. And so 539 00:31:03,478 --> 00:31:08,558 Speaker 1: when he went out and threw a short pass, man, Wow, 540 00:31:08,798 --> 00:31:11,678 Speaker 1: But I knew that we were going to see him again, 541 00:31:12,238 --> 00:31:15,118 Speaker 1: because I know that's him. He's going to try to 542 00:31:15,198 --> 00:31:19,358 Speaker 1: figure some way, somehow to get out and grind it 543 00:31:19,358 --> 00:31:22,558 Speaker 1: out with his guys. I mean, Brock is the most 544 00:31:22,758 --> 00:31:28,998 Speaker 1: loyal player. It's just very admirable. And so when I 545 00:31:28,998 --> 00:31:31,478 Speaker 1: saw him get back out there, I was hoping he 546 00:31:31,558 --> 00:31:33,478 Speaker 1: wasn't going to throw, but you know, he threw that 547 00:31:33,558 --> 00:31:39,798 Speaker 1: one pass, man, and so I could feel it with 548 00:31:39,918 --> 00:31:42,798 Speaker 1: him because I know what that injury feels like. And 549 00:31:43,558 --> 00:31:46,518 Speaker 1: so you know, it was just unfortunate how it went, 550 00:31:46,638 --> 00:31:50,518 Speaker 1: because you know, I know how much he wanted those 551 00:31:50,558 --> 00:31:55,038 Speaker 1: older players to man to take them to the Super Bowl. Man. Well, 552 00:31:55,078 --> 00:31:56,838 Speaker 1: they were on their way, man, and who knows. I 553 00:31:56,878 --> 00:32:00,958 Speaker 1: mean that that's that's just an awful injury inopportune time, 554 00:32:00,998 --> 00:32:02,838 Speaker 1: because he definitely had them on the right path. And 555 00:32:02,878 --> 00:32:05,158 Speaker 1: I was looking forward to the whole thing too. Um, 556 00:32:05,198 --> 00:32:07,158 Speaker 1: and like you all were, I mean that that's really 557 00:32:07,718 --> 00:32:09,598 Speaker 1: as a parent to sit up there and watch how 558 00:32:09,638 --> 00:32:12,198 Speaker 1: that has to be extremely difficult. Yeah, yeah, it's Uh, 559 00:32:13,398 --> 00:32:16,918 Speaker 1: it's gut ranching. Um. You know we all say we 560 00:32:16,958 --> 00:32:19,398 Speaker 1: know it's part of the game or whatever, but you know, 561 00:32:19,518 --> 00:32:23,158 Speaker 1: that was that was a tough pill to swallow. And 562 00:32:23,198 --> 00:32:27,078 Speaker 1: then in the end, knowing how how much he wanted 563 00:32:27,078 --> 00:32:31,038 Speaker 1: it for that staff and for that for those players 564 00:32:31,078 --> 00:32:34,238 Speaker 1: that have just almost been there before, and he wanted 565 00:32:34,278 --> 00:32:38,678 Speaker 1: to be the guy to help give him that, you know. So, Um, 566 00:32:38,718 --> 00:32:40,918 Speaker 1: that's what you know. I hurt with him on that. 567 00:32:41,758 --> 00:32:44,078 Speaker 1: And Sean, tell us about what you're up to these 568 00:32:44,158 --> 00:32:47,718 Speaker 1: days besides watching your son play for the forty nine ers. 569 00:32:47,718 --> 00:32:50,038 Speaker 1: I know you have another son who's up and coming 570 00:32:50,078 --> 00:32:52,558 Speaker 1: in the college ranks. Uh, tell me a little bit 571 00:32:52,598 --> 00:32:57,038 Speaker 1: about your business and then what keeps you busy these days? Well, 572 00:32:57,398 --> 00:33:00,438 Speaker 1: this is my favorite time of year when football because 573 00:33:00,478 --> 00:33:04,238 Speaker 1: I get to relax. Um. But you know, then Colledge 574 00:33:04,238 --> 00:33:06,798 Speaker 1: does fire up, you know, spring ball and so on, 575 00:33:06,878 --> 00:33:11,438 Speaker 1: and and you know Chubb has been unfortunate with a 576 00:33:11,438 --> 00:33:15,518 Speaker 1: few surgeries and so just getting him healthy, which he 577 00:33:15,558 --> 00:33:20,118 Speaker 1: appears to be and um, you know, so now it's well, 578 00:33:21,078 --> 00:33:23,718 Speaker 1: actually we're we're not having any time off because we're 579 00:33:23,718 --> 00:33:27,158 Speaker 1: focusing on Brock getting him right. Chubb is getting healthy 580 00:33:27,438 --> 00:33:32,438 Speaker 1: and you know they're they're taking turns. Um. And then 581 00:33:32,518 --> 00:33:35,838 Speaker 1: you know, I have my hot tub business of twenty 582 00:33:35,878 --> 00:33:40,118 Speaker 1: five years, so it's our busy season. So um, we're 583 00:33:40,158 --> 00:33:43,638 Speaker 1: always busy. You know. Summertime is usually when things cool 584 00:33:43,678 --> 00:33:46,758 Speaker 1: off for us and we get the unplug a little bit. Yeah, um, 585 00:33:47,158 --> 00:33:50,558 Speaker 1: but yeah, will things will be. You know, we're gonna 586 00:33:50,558 --> 00:33:54,838 Speaker 1: be meeting h Chubb on about a week in Florida 587 00:33:55,198 --> 00:33:58,238 Speaker 1: and um, he's got a QB coach there that um, 588 00:33:58,518 --> 00:34:00,878 Speaker 1: you know, Brock uses, and he'll be training with him, 589 00:34:00,958 --> 00:34:05,758 Speaker 1: and we'll we've always molded work uh and turn them 590 00:34:05,798 --> 00:34:08,838 Speaker 1: into vacations as well. So I'm from Florida, so we'll 591 00:34:08,838 --> 00:34:10,998 Speaker 1: get to see a lot of family and stuff and 592 00:34:12,318 --> 00:34:15,958 Speaker 1: be with Chubba and get some work in and then um, 593 00:34:15,998 --> 00:34:19,118 Speaker 1: you know Brock will be here. Uh. And and Joe 594 00:34:19,158 --> 00:34:23,278 Speaker 1: he's rehabbing with Keith Coker so oh he is okay awesome. 595 00:34:23,438 --> 00:34:30,278 Speaker 1: So and it's funny how um doctor meister recommended Keith 596 00:34:31,158 --> 00:34:33,598 Speaker 1: and um, you know because I had told Brock that 597 00:34:33,758 --> 00:34:35,278 Speaker 1: and he was like, well, you know, I got my guy, 598 00:34:35,318 --> 00:34:38,638 Speaker 1: and I said okay, and then mister Meister's like, I 599 00:34:38,718 --> 00:34:41,878 Speaker 1: highly recommend this guy and Tempe and I was like, 600 00:34:42,438 --> 00:34:46,918 Speaker 1: he's the best, is the best man. Absolutely, he's an Io. 601 00:34:46,958 --> 00:34:51,238 Speaker 1: He's an Eyla boy too. I'm pretty sure right, yeah, yeah, yeah, 602 00:34:51,278 --> 00:34:53,518 Speaker 1: he'll be he'll be doing that. So we're we're all 603 00:34:53,558 --> 00:34:56,358 Speaker 1: over the place as usual. So it's it's what we 604 00:34:56,438 --> 00:34:59,838 Speaker 1: signed up for. Awesome, Okay, Sean, you ready to play 605 00:34:59,838 --> 00:35:02,478 Speaker 1: a game here? Sure? We did this with all of 606 00:35:02,478 --> 00:35:06,238 Speaker 1: our guests here. We call a reading from the Book 607 00:35:06,278 --> 00:35:10,118 Speaker 1: of Joe because we feel like you could pick up 608 00:35:10,158 --> 00:35:12,838 Speaker 1: our book and flip to any page and you're going 609 00:35:12,918 --> 00:35:16,038 Speaker 1: to going to find something really interesting. So all you 610 00:35:16,118 --> 00:35:18,238 Speaker 1: have to do is pick a number between one and 611 00:35:18,318 --> 00:35:21,718 Speaker 1: three hundred and sixty eight and Joe will read a 612 00:35:21,758 --> 00:35:25,478 Speaker 1: passage out of that page. Let me have it. Okay, 613 00:35:25,558 --> 00:35:28,398 Speaker 1: what number you got me? I'm will pick thirteen. Brock 614 00:35:28,558 --> 00:35:33,158 Speaker 1: number number thirteen, getting right too, I'm here, Okay, yeah, 615 00:35:33,158 --> 00:35:36,718 Speaker 1: this is this is pretty much Famously, when I was 616 00:35:36,758 --> 00:35:38,438 Speaker 1: going to Midland, Texas and I was not in a 617 00:35:38,558 --> 00:35:41,638 Speaker 1: very good mood because I'd been passed over. Yeah, I 618 00:35:41,638 --> 00:35:44,758 Speaker 1: mean it works perfectly for it's no pitcher was to 619 00:35:44,798 --> 00:35:47,678 Speaker 1: pitch in Midland, Texas, although although you did say how 620 00:35:47,678 --> 00:35:50,478 Speaker 1: well you pitched in Colorado Springs, which is really great too. 621 00:35:51,598 --> 00:35:53,678 Speaker 1: This was I was on this plane. I was really upset. 622 00:35:53,718 --> 00:35:56,078 Speaker 1: I got passed over. Jeter got the job his first 623 00:35:56,078 --> 00:35:58,718 Speaker 1: space coach, and I was passed over. I was really upset. 624 00:35:58,718 --> 00:36:01,198 Speaker 1: I was ready to quit. Bobolo grabbed me. But that's 625 00:36:01,278 --> 00:36:04,438 Speaker 1: before this, when Babolo grabbed me. And how great was Babbaalu? 626 00:36:04,598 --> 00:36:09,678 Speaker 1: The best ever? You're bust Okay, I'll just go with 627 00:36:09,798 --> 00:36:12,318 Speaker 1: this first paragraph right here. One day, Madden arrived in 628 00:36:12,358 --> 00:36:14,518 Speaker 1: this dark mood at the Phoenix Airport for a flight 629 00:36:14,558 --> 00:36:17,558 Speaker 1: to Midland, Texas, home to the Angels, double a team 630 00:36:17,598 --> 00:36:19,838 Speaker 1: in the Texas League. His mood only worse than when 631 00:36:19,838 --> 00:36:22,078 Speaker 1: he found out he had been assigned to a middle 632 00:36:22,198 --> 00:36:25,198 Speaker 1: seat right. He woted the flight immediately effect that the 633 00:36:25,278 --> 00:36:29,238 Speaker 1: international do not disturb posture, putting on the foamed foam 634 00:36:29,318 --> 00:36:32,838 Speaker 1: air headphones of his portable cassette player, pressing play on 635 00:36:33,638 --> 00:36:36,318 Speaker 1: the Wild The Innocent in the EA Street Shuffle from 636 00:36:36,438 --> 00:36:39,238 Speaker 1: Springsteen crossing his arms and closing his eyes. A large 637 00:36:39,278 --> 00:36:40,518 Speaker 1: man I took the seat next to one the aile, 638 00:36:40,558 --> 00:36:42,518 Speaker 1: then a woman took the window seat on the other side, 639 00:36:42,558 --> 00:36:46,198 Speaker 1: completing an unhappy sandwich, and then just paraphrasing. After that, 640 00:36:46,238 --> 00:36:48,998 Speaker 1: this lady just wanted to keep talking, and I didn't 641 00:36:48,998 --> 00:36:50,718 Speaker 1: want to talk. I just wanted to be moody and 642 00:36:50,718 --> 00:36:52,798 Speaker 1: not talk to anybody. Let's you know me, I never was. 643 00:36:53,318 --> 00:36:57,558 Speaker 1: But finally we're flying somewhere over near Passo, I guess 644 00:36:57,878 --> 00:37:00,158 Speaker 1: on the way to Middleland, and she leans over to 645 00:37:00,198 --> 00:37:02,238 Speaker 1: me and she says, remember one thing, whenever you put 646 00:37:02,238 --> 00:37:04,958 Speaker 1: out there comes back to you. So I did this. 647 00:37:05,078 --> 00:37:07,718 Speaker 1: I did this with like the headphone. Would you mind 648 00:37:07,758 --> 00:37:09,998 Speaker 1: repeating that? And she said it one more time? And 649 00:37:09,998 --> 00:37:11,878 Speaker 1: then I swear to God, from that moment on, my 650 00:37:11,958 --> 00:37:15,118 Speaker 1: whole attitude changed, because I had never been like that. 651 00:37:15,518 --> 00:37:16,718 Speaker 1: So I got off the plan, I go to the 652 00:37:16,718 --> 00:37:18,998 Speaker 1: ballpark in Midland. I started my work, and all of 653 00:37:18,998 --> 00:37:21,038 Speaker 1: a sudden, I'm back to what who I had been. 654 00:37:21,798 --> 00:37:24,278 Speaker 1: So it's just a serendipitous moment. I was sitting on 655 00:37:24,318 --> 00:37:26,798 Speaker 1: an airplane and this lady who just wanted to be 656 00:37:26,838 --> 00:37:29,678 Speaker 1: talkative and I did not drops that one line on 657 00:37:29,718 --> 00:37:32,518 Speaker 1: me that I still think about today whenever I'm having 658 00:37:32,558 --> 00:37:35,518 Speaker 1: a bad day, remember one thing whenever you put out 659 00:37:35,558 --> 00:37:38,078 Speaker 1: there comes back to you. And again, you're the kind 660 00:37:38,118 --> 00:37:40,598 Speaker 1: of guy that really could would take something like that, 661 00:37:40,638 --> 00:37:42,398 Speaker 1: a thought like that, and absolutely run with it. And 662 00:37:42,478 --> 00:37:46,598 Speaker 1: I'm sure Brock is the same kind of cat also absolutely. Yeah. 663 00:37:46,798 --> 00:37:50,358 Speaker 1: Not some heavy stuff right there, man. And you know 664 00:37:51,158 --> 00:37:58,038 Speaker 1: that's why Brock is very calculated. I am too, because 665 00:37:58,118 --> 00:38:02,718 Speaker 1: you want to be a good example, and you know 666 00:38:02,878 --> 00:38:08,558 Speaker 1: that's it's very important that what goes out that's coming back. Man. So, yeah, 667 00:38:08,638 --> 00:38:12,158 Speaker 1: she gave you some good advice. That's nineteen ninety whatever, 668 00:38:12,198 --> 00:38:14,598 Speaker 1: two or three whatever, that was ninety I don't even know, 669 00:38:14,718 --> 00:38:17,638 Speaker 1: but it sticks till today. Yeah, that that little that 670 00:38:17,718 --> 00:38:20,478 Speaker 1: little simple phrase. How great is it that Sean picked 671 00:38:20,478 --> 00:38:22,958 Speaker 1: the passage out of the Texas League. Sean, you probably 672 00:38:22,998 --> 00:38:25,638 Speaker 1: saw more of the Texas League than you wanted to see, 673 00:38:26,558 --> 00:38:31,598 Speaker 1: especially Midland. Man. Wow, but that just shows who you are, 674 00:38:32,278 --> 00:38:35,278 Speaker 1: that you're humble enough to take that advice and to 675 00:38:35,478 --> 00:38:40,158 Speaker 1: listen and for the party family. You know, in your journey, 676 00:38:40,198 --> 00:38:43,398 Speaker 1: I'm always like you know, you know, I know him 677 00:38:43,438 --> 00:38:46,238 Speaker 1: and Joe and players love playing for him. He's a 678 00:38:46,278 --> 00:38:49,318 Speaker 1: player's coach. And you know, you're just different in the 679 00:38:49,398 --> 00:38:54,198 Speaker 1: sense that, uh, you know, you do dig deep and 680 00:38:53,238 --> 00:38:57,678 Speaker 1: u and with that, you know, that proves that you're 681 00:38:57,758 --> 00:39:00,278 Speaker 1: humble enough to take some advice from a lady on 682 00:39:00,318 --> 00:39:04,478 Speaker 1: an airplane. And that goes with anything in life. Is 683 00:39:04,558 --> 00:39:06,558 Speaker 1: you know, when I used to coach girls softball, you know, 684 00:39:06,558 --> 00:39:08,278 Speaker 1: and I tell these dads, hey, tell me what you 685 00:39:08,318 --> 00:39:11,438 Speaker 1: see or whatever. They're like, what you know, I don't know, 686 00:39:11,478 --> 00:39:13,718 Speaker 1: I go, but you know, you know you've learned. You know, 687 00:39:13,838 --> 00:39:17,238 Speaker 1: I trust you, and so if you're willing to, you know, 688 00:39:17,318 --> 00:39:18,838 Speaker 1: you feel thro out the good and the bad. It 689 00:39:18,838 --> 00:39:21,798 Speaker 1: doesn't mean I have to take everybody's advice, but be 690 00:39:21,998 --> 00:39:25,118 Speaker 1: humble enough to listen because something might stick and change 691 00:39:25,118 --> 00:39:29,038 Speaker 1: your life. Man, right on, buddy, right on, this whole explanation, 692 00:39:29,118 --> 00:39:33,878 Speaker 1: this whole I don't know. Forty minutes almost just bouncing 693 00:39:33,918 --> 00:39:36,798 Speaker 1: all over the place talking to Sean about a variety 694 00:39:36,838 --> 00:39:40,518 Speaker 1: of things, including his son. Brock explains why Brock is 695 00:39:40,558 --> 00:39:44,278 Speaker 1: who he is and why he's overachieved in a sense, 696 00:39:44,638 --> 00:39:46,318 Speaker 1: why he's gone to the level that he has, why 697 00:39:46,478 --> 00:39:51,558 Speaker 1: he's earned every step of the way. The characteristics the personality, 698 00:39:51,598 --> 00:39:55,198 Speaker 1: the person being able to be drafted last out, leaning 699 00:39:55,198 --> 00:39:57,278 Speaker 1: that bother him and getting all the way to the 700 00:39:57,318 --> 00:39:59,758 Speaker 1: championship game this last year. It's just it's all here. 701 00:39:59,878 --> 00:40:02,238 Speaker 1: Everything you're talking about, it's all here. These are the 702 00:40:02,318 --> 00:40:05,118 Speaker 1: kind of things that are hard to evaluate, and I 703 00:40:05,158 --> 00:40:07,118 Speaker 1: think are the most important things to evaluate when you're 704 00:40:07,118 --> 00:40:10,638 Speaker 1: attempting to if you really want to build a strong 705 00:40:10,718 --> 00:40:13,958 Speaker 1: organization and get winning type guys in there, Guys that 706 00:40:13,998 --> 00:40:16,718 Speaker 1: really care, ultruistic kind of players that are more about 707 00:40:16,758 --> 00:40:20,158 Speaker 1: you than they're about themselves. So anyway, this as we're 708 00:40:20,158 --> 00:40:21,838 Speaker 1: just talking right now, I just wrote that little note 709 00:40:23,278 --> 00:40:25,798 Speaker 1: explaining why he went from last to first, just this 710 00:40:25,838 --> 00:40:29,958 Speaker 1: whole conversation. And I appreciate Sean how you've described everything. 711 00:40:29,998 --> 00:40:32,598 Speaker 1: You've done a great job with that. Thank you. Yeah, 712 00:40:32,678 --> 00:40:38,278 Speaker 1: we just you know, you want people to not give up, 713 00:40:39,118 --> 00:40:42,758 Speaker 1: you know when you see it. And you know, Brock, 714 00:40:43,278 --> 00:40:47,158 Speaker 1: when Tim Tebow won the highs his dad, that's what 715 00:40:47,198 --> 00:40:49,158 Speaker 1: I want to do, and that's how I want to 716 00:40:49,198 --> 00:40:53,278 Speaker 1: do it. And um, you know, with class, and you 717 00:40:53,278 --> 00:40:55,998 Speaker 1: know he always admired how Timmy was a warrior with 718 00:40:56,038 --> 00:41:01,158 Speaker 1: his teammates and and you know he's just always wanted 719 00:41:01,238 --> 00:41:04,958 Speaker 1: to inspire, you know, people, and and I have too. 720 00:41:05,118 --> 00:41:07,558 Speaker 1: You know, it's just like you just want to let 721 00:41:07,598 --> 00:41:10,198 Speaker 1: people know, hey, look I understand, and hey, man, don't 722 00:41:10,238 --> 00:41:14,438 Speaker 1: give up. And boy, if this thing does work out, man, 723 00:41:14,478 --> 00:41:19,278 Speaker 1: it's gonna be awesome, you know, encouraging people. So we're 724 00:41:19,358 --> 00:41:24,358 Speaker 1: just grateful for the opportunity to have conversations with people 725 00:41:24,438 --> 00:41:28,398 Speaker 1: like yourself and so on, to just encourage people. Man, 726 00:41:28,558 --> 00:41:31,918 Speaker 1: just go be your best, give it you're all. If 727 00:41:31,918 --> 00:41:34,678 Speaker 1: it works out, man, it's gonna be awesome. If it doesn't, 728 00:41:34,838 --> 00:41:37,878 Speaker 1: you're gonna sleep well. So it all comes through, buddy, 729 00:41:37,958 --> 00:41:41,918 Speaker 1: It all comes through great stories of perseverance, father and 730 00:41:42,038 --> 00:41:44,878 Speaker 1: son and Sean. We really thank you for your time 731 00:41:44,918 --> 00:41:47,638 Speaker 1: and we wish the best of luck and Brock making 732 00:41:47,678 --> 00:41:49,638 Speaker 1: his way back and getting healthy and looking forward to 733 00:41:49,638 --> 00:41:53,878 Speaker 1: seeing him again with the forty nine ers. Thanks so much, absolutely, 734 00:41:53,918 --> 00:41:56,958 Speaker 1: thank you. God bless you guys too well. Joe, I 735 00:41:57,078 --> 00:42:01,038 Speaker 1: really enjoyed our time with Sean Party. I mean, I mean, 736 00:42:01,518 --> 00:42:04,038 Speaker 1: what's great about it, as I said, a story of 737 00:42:04,118 --> 00:42:08,798 Speaker 1: perseverance on both father and son, and for fans, they 738 00:42:08,918 --> 00:42:11,798 Speaker 1: probably looked in the NFL season last year and we're like, wow, 739 00:42:11,798 --> 00:42:14,478 Speaker 1: who's this brock Purty dude, the guy fell out of 740 00:42:14,518 --> 00:42:17,278 Speaker 1: the sky, came from nowhere, and then you hear what 741 00:42:17,358 --> 00:42:20,758 Speaker 1: it takes to get there and everything that he's persevered 742 00:42:20,798 --> 00:42:23,318 Speaker 1: to even get an opportunity, know us, to get them 743 00:42:23,318 --> 00:42:26,518 Speaker 1: in the NFC Championship game. So but I just I 744 00:42:26,598 --> 00:42:29,438 Speaker 1: just love hearing those stories. Yeah, I mean, it's it's 745 00:42:29,478 --> 00:42:31,878 Speaker 1: so obvious. Over the course of almost an hour just 746 00:42:32,958 --> 00:42:36,678 Speaker 1: just talking, just having a conversation, it's revealed easily why 747 00:42:37,078 --> 00:42:39,598 Speaker 1: Sean was as as successful as he was. And then 748 00:42:39,638 --> 00:42:42,118 Speaker 1: his son definitely is a chip off the old block, 749 00:42:43,038 --> 00:42:46,998 Speaker 1: did it the right way, great teammate is there for 750 00:42:47,038 --> 00:42:51,118 Speaker 1: everybody else. First, his son is a leader already at 751 00:42:51,158 --> 00:42:55,518 Speaker 1: an early age with a world class football organization. And 752 00:42:55,558 --> 00:42:57,318 Speaker 1: then you could just see her Sean. The humility in 753 00:42:57,358 --> 00:42:59,598 Speaker 1: Shawn's voice, but also the strength in Shawn's voice. I mean, 754 00:42:59,598 --> 00:43:03,558 Speaker 1: he provides great direction and leadership for his kids. And 755 00:43:03,598 --> 00:43:06,718 Speaker 1: that's pretty obvious. He was he was like he was 756 00:43:06,998 --> 00:43:09,638 Speaker 1: that kind of competitor. That's what I really remember most 757 00:43:09,638 --> 00:43:14,238 Speaker 1: about him back in the day because he would not 758 00:43:14,278 --> 00:43:16,598 Speaker 1: be denied. Did not have the best stuff like you've 759 00:43:16,598 --> 00:43:20,238 Speaker 1: talked about, but once he learned to relinquish control, he 760 00:43:20,278 --> 00:43:22,958 Speaker 1: gained more control. I love that part about the conversation 761 00:43:23,318 --> 00:43:27,678 Speaker 1: because I really when it comes down to teaching this game, baseball, football, 762 00:43:27,758 --> 00:43:31,438 Speaker 1: any game we all wanted, like he said, white knucklet 763 00:43:31,438 --> 00:43:34,598 Speaker 1: and control it. And it's exactly the opposite. That's really 764 00:43:34,638 --> 00:43:38,278 Speaker 1: gonna going to benefit your success. Great stuff. I love 765 00:43:38,358 --> 00:43:40,918 Speaker 1: the way he explained that it took him a long time. 766 00:43:41,038 --> 00:43:43,758 Speaker 1: Something happens early took him a long time, but he 767 00:43:43,878 --> 00:43:47,558 Speaker 1: kept at it. Jerry, have something to take us out here. Yeah, 768 00:43:48,278 --> 00:43:52,838 Speaker 1: this is almost the dovetails, which is our boy anyway, 769 00:43:52,878 --> 00:43:55,358 Speaker 1: And I was another Twain, one more Twain, I'll stop 770 00:43:55,398 --> 00:44:01,038 Speaker 1: doing it, but mister Twain said, and it's really it 771 00:44:01,158 --> 00:44:03,398 Speaker 1: just it pertains to everything that we've talked about. When 772 00:44:03,438 --> 00:44:06,758 Speaker 1: in doubt tell the truth, and we just we just 773 00:44:06,758 --> 00:44:09,558 Speaker 1: spoke with the truth teller. I mean, Sean Purdy is 774 00:44:09,598 --> 00:44:14,478 Speaker 1: absolutely straightforward. There's no dissembling whatsoever. This is who I am, 775 00:44:14,518 --> 00:44:16,078 Speaker 1: this is what I think, this is what I believe, 776 00:44:16,438 --> 00:44:18,558 Speaker 1: and after you get when he describes his son brocka, 777 00:44:18,598 --> 00:44:21,838 Speaker 1: I'm really looking forward to meeting so mister Twain, When 778 00:44:21,918 --> 00:44:24,198 Speaker 1: in doubt tell the truth, it's pretty easy you can't 779 00:44:24,238 --> 00:44:28,318 Speaker 1: go wrong with that great advice in any side of life. 780 00:44:28,358 --> 00:44:31,198 Speaker 1: And Joe, look forward to next time we meet and 781 00:44:31,358 --> 00:44:34,998 Speaker 1: hearing about your efforts on the golf course. I promised too, 782 00:44:35,198 --> 00:44:38,158 Speaker 1: I'll be able to take a picture too. Whatever. I'm 783 00:44:38,198 --> 00:44:41,598 Speaker 1: looking forward to it. It's exciting. Got my new pings 784 00:44:41,638 --> 00:44:43,718 Speaker 1: to go with me, just boughts of new clothes yesterday 785 00:44:43,718 --> 00:44:45,758 Speaker 1: to dress up a little bit. It's gonna be cool. 786 00:44:46,078 --> 00:44:48,158 Speaker 1: See you next time, all right, buddy, Thanks you too. 787 00:44:55,478 --> 00:44:58,678 Speaker 1: The Book of Joe podcast is a production of iHeartRadio. 788 00:44:58,918 --> 00:45:02,718 Speaker 1: For more podcasts from my Heart Radio, visit the iHeartRadio app, 789 00:45:02,798 --> 00:45:05,718 Speaker 1: Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.