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Speaker 1: It's Week six of the NFL.

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Speaker 4: Welcome to the twenty in the Huddle podcast presented by Microsoft,

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Speaker 4: and it's a huge matchup this week in Baltimore against

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Speaker 4: the four and two Ravens Baltimore Physical football team. This

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Speaker 4: is a matchup up front. The big guys are going

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Speaker 4: to decide this one. So who better than to welcome

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Speaker 4: in TJ Lang, former Lions does a sideline reporting for

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Speaker 4: ninety seven to one on game day, does a great

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Speaker 4: job with that.

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Speaker 1: TJ.

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Speaker 4: Thanks for joining me man, I appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: Tim.

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Speaker 3: Always good to join you up here, and especially this week.

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Speaker 3: Another beef on beef type of matchups on beef last

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Speaker 3: week in Tampa Bay. And that's what it's all about, man,

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Speaker 3: strength on strength, and I can't wait to can't wait

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Speaker 3: to see you know how these teams match up come Sunday.

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Speaker 4: You know we were talking about a little bit before

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Speaker 3: I think their defense. Look, they've got a massive human

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Sutton Island. I think we were talking last week

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Speaker 3: And you better be able to physical. Yeah, you better

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Speaker 3: I think Jamo that touchdown last week just felt like

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Speaker 3: it felt like a huge weight probably lifted off of

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Speaker 3: his shoulders right, and even two snaps before that, we

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Speaker 3: saw the deep kind of comeback on the sideline, great route.

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Speaker 3: I'm sure the coaching point there would be, hey, work

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Speaker 3: back to the quarterback just a little bit so it's

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Speaker 3: not at your feet and maybe it's at your chest,

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Speaker 3: which he's only going to continue to improve on. But

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Speaker 3: to me, it said a lot about the confidence that

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Speaker 3: Jared Goff has in Jamison Williams two plays later coming

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Speaker 3: back and taking the top off the defense, and Jared'll

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Speaker 3: probably I think he already said, hey, it wasn't my

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Speaker 3: best ball. It was a great adjustment by Jamo to

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Speaker 3: come back to that ball. We saw him get spun

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Speaker 3: around and bringing the catch. I just feel like that

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Speaker 3: that could catapult you to more success in this league.

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Speaker 3: Once you have that one play, it's like, okay, boom,

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Speaker 3: I'm good, I'm ready. Let's keep doing it right. And

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Speaker 3: for him to get that kind of weight off of

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Speaker 3: his shoulder at that point of the game is huge

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Speaker 3: because you saw it the rest of the game against Tampa.

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Speaker 3: There was another play later in that game on a

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Speaker 3: third down, Amora ran about a twenty yard en route,

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Speaker 3: Jamison was running a deep post. You saw three defensive

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Speaker 3: backs from Tampa Bay playing about thirty five yards off

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Speaker 3: the line of scrimmage because they saw number that out

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Speaker 3: there running a streak down the middle of the field.

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Speaker 3: They didn't want to get beat again. But that's the

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Speaker 3: type opportunities that he's going to open up for the

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Speaker 3: rest of this offense. If you could hit Jamo on

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Speaker 3: one or two of those deep shots. It is going

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Speaker 3: to make everybody else really likely, way way more easy

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Speaker 3: in the middle of that defense, which we know this

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Speaker 3: Detroit Lions offense loves to live.

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Speaker 4: But to your point, that was the first time we

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Speaker 4: saw Jamo, Saint Brown and Laporta on the field together,

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Speaker 4: and those three combined for eighteen catches, two hundred and

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Speaker 4: thirteen yards and two touchdowns.

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Speaker 1: I think they play off each other.

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Speaker 3: Maybe we'll get a little bit of Gibbs in there

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Speaker 3: too this week, a little bit more speed on this

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Speaker 3: offense as well.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, speed is fun.

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Speaker 3: Speed is fun. And I tell you this team, man

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Speaker 3: that you can notice on both sides of the ball,

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Speaker 3: the speed is different, right, And I think the challenge

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Speaker 3: with this offense in particular is, hey, we got all

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Speaker 3: the speed, but how do we stay true to our identity,

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Speaker 3: which is a physical, a gritty, a tough, violent football team.

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Speaker 3: But it's nice to have those gadget type players. It

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Speaker 3: plays I'm not going to call them gadget players, but

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Speaker 3: plays in there where you say, hey, you want to

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Speaker 3: load up the box with eight guys, No worry, We're

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Speaker 3: going to bomb one over the top of you. This

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Speaker 3: offense is only going to continue to get better now

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Speaker 3: that these guys are all starting to get healthy together.

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Speaker 1: Look at you, radio radio guy.

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Speaker 4: You're teasing this next You're teasing this next match up here,

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Speaker 4: aren't you? Because the final one is is Ben Johnson,

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Speaker 4: the offensive coordinated for Detroit against Mike McDonald, who I

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Speaker 4: think has done a terrific.

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Speaker 1: Job there in Baltimore.

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Speaker 4: Obviously, you know, former Michigan guy has gone back to Baltimore.

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Speaker 4: And when I talk to the offensive guys this week

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Speaker 4: is one of the things they say is when you

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Speaker 4: watch their films of every game, it's almost a different

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Speaker 4: scheme week, you know they do. They're very scheme specific

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Speaker 4: to their opponent. And I think that's a trade of

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Speaker 4: a good defensive coordinator. It's not like, hey, this is

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Speaker 4: just what we are, what we do. You obviously have

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Speaker 4: your own principles and your own beliefs, but you can

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Speaker 4: change things up based upon the opponent that you think

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Speaker 4: gives you the best advantage. And I think Ben Johnson

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Speaker 4: on our side does that exact same thing, and so

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Speaker 4: I think this is going to be kind of one

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Speaker 4: of those terrific matchups within the matchup against arguably one

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Speaker 4: of the best offenses in the league and the best

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Speaker 4: defense Detroit will see all year and one of the

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Speaker 4: best in the NFL.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's that cat and mouse game you talk about

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Speaker 3: when you think about coordinators and we're calling this because

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Speaker 3: we think they're doing that, right, or the tendencies say,

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Speaker 3: you know, hey, on second and short, this is what

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Speaker 3: they're doing. I think the good part about Ben Johnson

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Speaker 3: watching the film, there's not a whole lot of tendencies

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Speaker 3: right now. I mean, he does a great job of

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Speaker 3: mixing up personnel, mixing up motions, mixing up you know,

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Speaker 3: the formations that he has with different guys that you

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Speaker 3: can't really hone in and key in on one specific

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Speaker 3: appspect was, Hey, every time we see Sam Laport of

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Speaker 3: motion like this, it's this play, right. They have seven

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Speaker 3: or different seven or eight different plays that they've run

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Speaker 3: off of that already throughout six games. So it's hard

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Speaker 3: to key in on that. I think just looking at

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Speaker 3: this week, Look, it's a copycat league, right la Tampa.

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Speaker 3: Last week their defense DIDs have success stopping our run game.

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Speaker 3: A lot of that was not you know, the offensive

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Speaker 3: line just getting beat one on one. A lot of it,

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Speaker 3: like I said earlier, was a numbers game. Hey, we've

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Speaker 3: got seven blockers, they've got eight, sometimes nine guys in

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Speaker 3: the box. We got to make these guys miss right.

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Speaker 3: Or sometimes hey we're running wide outside zone left, we're

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Speaker 3: leaving the backside defender un blocked. He did a nice

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Speaker 3: job chasing down the play and keeping it to a

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Speaker 3: one yard game. You know those things are going to happen.

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Speaker 3: It's a copycat league. I'm sure Baltimore is looking at

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Speaker 3: that too, their defense coordinators looking at that and saying, hey,

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Speaker 3: anytime we get this motion, they just hug the line right,

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Speaker 3: go make the play. Ben Johnson, how do you counteract that?

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Speaker 3: How do you throw in some of these play action

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Speaker 3: passes now where you say, hey, we've shown the run

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Speaker 3: off of this formation and off of this motion five

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Speaker 3: or six times. Now, guess what next time we do it,

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Speaker 3: We're gonna boot leg out hopefully we got somebody wide open.

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Speaker 3: That's how you take defenses out of being over aggressive

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Speaker 3: against your run game, and that's gonna be a huge key.

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Speaker 3: I think this week it's gonna be much like last

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Speaker 3: week where you're gonna have to be really good in

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Speaker 3: situational football. You're gonna have to be really good in

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Speaker 3: third down lines were great on third down, especially in

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Speaker 3: the second half against Stampa. You're gonna have to be

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Speaker 3: really good in the red zone offense and defensively.

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Speaker 1: This is a great red zone Baltimore.

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Speaker 3: You just look at the stats, but the red zone

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Speaker 3: defense is really good. But you look at Baltimore's offense.

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Speaker 3: I think it was the first four games, you know,

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Speaker 3: they were scoring touchdowns about eighty five percent. The last

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Speaker 3: two games. We saw it last week in London, they

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Speaker 3: kicked six field goals in the game. That's a lot

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Speaker 3: for a kick. That's a really good job out of

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Speaker 3: defense furs than that many field goals. So it's gonna

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Speaker 3: be that red zone type and the biggest the turnovers too.

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Speaker 3: The Lions have really seemed to turn a page the

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Speaker 3: last couple of games, where hey, they were kind of

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Speaker 3: playing with fire a little bit against Atlanta. Against Seattle,

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Speaker 3: we obviously saw it hurt them against Green right, a

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Speaker 3: couple turnovers in there, they're playing with fire. They turned

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Speaker 3: to seem to turn that page a little bit. Offensively,

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Speaker 3: we're taking care of the football defense give us an

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Speaker 3: extra possession in games like this that I think are

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Speaker 3: going to be close, that I think are going to

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Speaker 3: be strength on strength. That might turn out who's got

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Speaker 3: the ball last? A lot of times you look back

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Speaker 3: at it and you say, yep, they had the one turnover,

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Speaker 3: we gave him a short field. Those three points made

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Speaker 3: a difference. I think situational football is going to be

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Speaker 3: much like last week. It's going to be the most

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Speaker 3: important thing about this game as well.

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Speaker 4: Two coaches that really love special teams too, maybe a

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Speaker 4: big special teams like you feel.

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Speaker 3: Like is kind of due for one week. You feel

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Speaker 3: like he's doing I almost said it last week. I

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Speaker 3: wasn't quite comfortable saying it yet against Tampa. But you

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Speaker 3: feel like in this game and then look, I mean

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Speaker 3: this is this might be a very similar game to

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Speaker 3: what we saw last year at New York right when

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Speaker 3: we played the Jets. Hey, they're a tough defense man.

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Speaker 3: It's gonna be hard. Points are gonna be hard. Different

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Speaker 3: from that game, Khalif Raymond punt return right, This might

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Speaker 3: be one of those games where you say you might

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Speaker 3: last week we got against Tampa Bay in the second

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Speaker 3: series with Jacobs, Yeah, I'm sorry. Will Harris coming up

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Speaker 3: with the interception off the tipball made a big difference

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Speaker 3: in that game. This might be another game where you say, hey,

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Speaker 3: we might need a spark play from somebody else outside

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Speaker 3: of our offense. Maybe it's a special team chance.

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Speaker 4: So talked to all Ben Johnson too. I thought it

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Speaker 4: was important last week. Tampa did such a great jobs

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Speaker 4: off the run like you talked about. But you know

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Speaker 4: that now you can put it in Jared's hands. Yes,

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Speaker 4: you can throw the ball forty four times round and

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Speaker 4: fifty three yards towns. So it's pretty good that you

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Speaker 4: can be versatile and you can counter whatever the defense does.

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Speaker 4: I think last week showed that. With Ben Johnson this

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Speaker 4: past again, that's going to make him feel really good.

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Speaker 4: Teach as always, man, great stuff. I gotta have you

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Speaker 4: on more often because I enjoy it.

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Speaker 1: I enjoying this segment all the time.

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Speaker 4: I don't look we got big boy football in Baltimore.

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Speaker 1: He's the big guy from Detroit breaking it all down.

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Speaker 1: Thank you guys for joining us.

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Speaker 2: We'll be back.

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Speaker 4: Welcome back to the twenty podcast presented by Microsoft, and

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Speaker 4: I'm very happy to welcome in Brian Wager. He is

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Speaker 4: the Baltimore Ravens beat writer for the Baltimore Sun. Brian,

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Speaker 4: Welcome to the twenty in the Hotel podcast. Thank you

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Speaker 4: so much for taking the time. And are you acclimated

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Speaker 4: back to the time now? I know you're coming from

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Speaker 4: London last week, all right.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, we're getting back to it. Unlike the Ravens. I

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Speaker 5: actually stayed in London for an extra couple of days

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Speaker 5: to try to take in some of the sites of London,

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Speaker 5: but woke up at about five o'clock this morning, so

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Speaker 5: I'm still a little bit jet lagged. But spoke to

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Speaker 5: some Ravens yesterday, they including Lamar Jackson, and they seem

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Speaker 5: to be working their way back as well. Lamar said, he,

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Speaker 5: you know, woke up really early. Of course, they flew

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Speaker 5: back right after the game got in late Sunday night

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Speaker 5: Monday film review Tuesday off. Mar said he, you know,

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Speaker 5: woke up early, but then went back to sleep and

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Speaker 5: sort of, you know, at this point another day or so,

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Speaker 5: should be fully acclimated back to East Coast time after

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Speaker 5: being London for last week.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, kind of interesting. I mean normally you see that by,

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Speaker 4: you know, the week after. I know the Ravens John

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Speaker 4: Harbaugh talked about that a little bit. They kind of

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Speaker 4: wanted thereby to be a little bit later in the

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Speaker 4: year so it'll be interesting to see if that factors

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Speaker 4: in it all with a slow start or anything like

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Speaker 4: that with Baltimore. But look, one thing that hasn't been

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Speaker 4: slow on Baltimore is that defense. I mean, you guys

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Speaker 4: play some really good defense over there. Obviously starts with

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Speaker 4: the front seven. Two of the best linebackers.

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Speaker 1: In the league.

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Speaker 4: I think in terms of a duo, you lead the

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Speaker 4: league in twenty four sacks. Is this really a matchup

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Speaker 4: Sunday about best on best with that front seven from

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Speaker 4: Baltimore and an offensive line of Detroit that's considered one

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Speaker 4: of the top five in the league.

655
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Speaker 6: It really is.

656
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Speaker 5: It's it's I think if you look at it, this

657
00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:54,600
Speaker 5: is probably the most fascinating matchups the game of the

658
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Speaker 5: game within the game, right you mentioned obviously Detroit with

659
00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:03,239
Speaker 5: you know, probably the best offensive line in football are

660
00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:07,439
Speaker 5: certainly one of them against the Ravens defense that you know,

661
00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:12,960
Speaker 5: despite not having a superstar edge rusher, Look, Davin Clowney's

662
00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:16,320
Speaker 5: been terrific, but they don't have that sort of prototypical

663
00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:21,359
Speaker 5: ten twelve fourteen sack guy on the roster, but they've

664
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Speaker 5: been managing ways to you know, get it done. Of course,

665
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Speaker 5: We've saw Kyle Hamilton safety get three sacks in a

666
00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:31,480
Speaker 5: game a few weeks ago. We've seen them sort of

667
00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:32,560
Speaker 5: figuring out.

668
00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:33,320
Speaker 6: Ways to do with you.

669
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Speaker 5: David Clowney, who I just mentioned he's got, had a

670
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Speaker 5: couple of sacks last week in London. They brought in

671
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Speaker 5: Kyle van Neys, so they're you know, really this is

672
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Speaker 5: about Mike McDonald to me, sort of figuring out a

673
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Speaker 5: way to generate pressure, generate quarterback hits, generate sacks, even

674
00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:59,240
Speaker 5: though they don't have that ten twelve fourteen sack prototypical

675
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Speaker 5: edge rusher. We've seen Clowney again sort of lead the

676
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Speaker 5: charge there. Even on the inside. We've seen guys like

677
00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:12,360
Speaker 5: Justin Mattabeaka, even Patrick Queen and Rokwan Smith, So they

678
00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:14,359
Speaker 5: are finding ways to get to the quarterback.

679
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Speaker 4: Yeah, to your point, eleven different Ravens with at least

680
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Speaker 4: one sack on the air, four guys with at least

681
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Speaker 4: four and I think they come from all four different positions,

682
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Speaker 4: an outside linebacker, a defensive tackle, a linebacker, and a safety,

683
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Speaker 4: So it really comes from everywhere. Just one thing I know.

684
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Speaker 4: Ben Johnson talked about Brad excuse me, Dan Campbell talked

685
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Speaker 4: about here was just McDonald that scheme being being very

686
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Speaker 4: different from week to week. How it's very hard when

687
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Speaker 4: you watch film to pinpoint a certain scheme that they're

688
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Speaker 4: going to run. Has that been really one of the

689
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Speaker 4: hallmarks of his defenses is being very versatile and being

690
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Speaker 4: a guy that can hit you in a lot of

691
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Speaker 4: different ways week to week defensively, Yeah.

692
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Speaker 5: I mean, look, that seems to be the trademark. This

693
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Speaker 5: has been my first season on the Ravens beat, but

694
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Speaker 5: if you look back at the last two years, this

695
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:05,600
Speaker 5: season and last, you know, Mike is one of those

696
00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:08,680
Speaker 5: bright young minds in the game who has figured out

697
00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:13,800
Speaker 5: ways to cause chaos and confusion, which is what all

698
00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:18,360
Speaker 5: defensive coordinators of course want to do. So you know

699
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Speaker 5: that's meant everything from taking a guy like Kyle Hamilton,

700
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Speaker 5: a very good safety and continuing to use him up

701
00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:31,360
Speaker 5: at the box and in offering all sorts of disguised looks.

702
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Speaker 5: So to me that it really speaks to the scheme

703
00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:38,480
Speaker 5: and figuring out sort of what guys do what well

704
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Speaker 5: and then letting them do their thing. Of course, you

705
00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:46,360
Speaker 5: mentioned it, all those different Ravens with sacks with at

706
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Speaker 5: least one sack, so to me, that's been. That speaks

707
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Speaker 5: a lot to the scheme, into the coaching, and then

708
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Speaker 5: of course to the guys that Mike is putting in

709
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Speaker 5: those positions.

710
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Speaker 4: You know, we talked about the matchup with then the

711
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Speaker 4: matchup with the offensive defensive lines, but I think with

712
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Speaker 4: Donald and Ben Johnson also kind of a young innovative

713
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Speaker 4: mine offensively. Just what's been the conversation in Baltimore, especially

714
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Speaker 4: with some of the defensive guys, maybe with some of

715
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Speaker 4: the coaching staff on just how creative Ben has been,

716
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Speaker 4: how explosive this Lion's offense has been. Jared Goff is

717
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Speaker 4: playing at really an MVP level to begin the season.

718
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Speaker 4: Just what kind of task do they expect that that

719
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Speaker 4: they're going to have trying to slow down Detroit on Sunday.

720
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Speaker 5: Yeah, they they know they've got their hands full. You know,

721
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Speaker 5: we talked to Gdevian Clowney yesterday. He said, look, this

722
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Speaker 5: is this is the best team that they have faced

723
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Speaker 5: to this point in the season. You know, a lot

724
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Speaker 5: of their wins you look at it, they've come against

725
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Speaker 5: backup quarterbacks, against rookie quarterbacks.

726
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Speaker 6: So you know, to me, this is the most complete.

727
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Speaker 5: Team top to bottom offense, defense and they can you

728
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Speaker 5: know what Detroit brings that the Ravens will see all year.

729
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Speaker 5: So they're fully aware that this is the best team

730
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Speaker 5: though that they'll have seen at this point, the complete

731
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Speaker 5: nature from running, throwing, the defensive side of the ball

732
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Speaker 5: that they're going to go against at this point the season.

733
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Speaker 6: So to me, you look at the schedule.

734
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Speaker 5: And this is probably one of the one or two

735
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Speaker 5: best games on the slate for this weekend.

736
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Speaker 4: No, I certainly agree right offensively, when you when you

737
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Speaker 4: look at the Ravens a little bit different obviously, you

738
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Speaker 4: know Todd Monkin is there. Now, We've been so used

739
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Speaker 4: to Greg Roman and his style. How has it been

740
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Speaker 4: different with Todd? How has Lamar maybe you know, his

741
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Speaker 4: game maybe evolved slash changed a little bit in this

742
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Speaker 4: new offense. I know Lions coaches talked about him being

743
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Speaker 4: more of a pocket passer.

744
00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:44,040
Speaker 1: That's what they've seen on tape.

745
00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:46,480
Speaker 4: Still obviously very aware of what he can do and

746
00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:48,800
Speaker 4: how he can he can hurt you with his legs.

747
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Speaker 1: But I think.

748
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Speaker 4: Defensive coordner to Aaron Glenn called call Lamar an evolving

749
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Speaker 4: passer when we talked to him on Thursday. Just what's

750
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Speaker 4: been the biggest difference with them offensively under the new schemes.

751
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Speaker 5: Yeah, certainly a different scheme, everything from the pace at

752
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Speaker 5: which the offense operates to really the scam and the

753
00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:11,760
Speaker 5: sort of formations that they're lining up. And you know,

754
00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:15,320
Speaker 5: we have seen a ton of three and four receiver sets.

755
00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:18,280
Speaker 5: You know that said, look, this is a team that

756
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Speaker 5: still runs the ball quite a lot. This is a

757
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:25,800
Speaker 5: team that still relies on Lamar Jackson, or rather Lamar

758
00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:30,120
Speaker 5: Jackson relying on Mark Andrews quite often. We've seen the

759
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Speaker 5: emergence of Zay Flowers. He's a guy who leads a

760
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Speaker 5: team and catches and targets and they really seem to

761
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Speaker 5: like him using him and everything from deep passes to

762
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:45,000
Speaker 5: stuff bubble screens to jet suite stuff on stuff underneath.

763
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Speaker 5: So to me, that's the biggest difference is that you're

764
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Speaker 5: seeing you know, more screens, more underneath stuff, more accuracy

765
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Speaker 5: really from Lamar Jackson.

766
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Speaker 6: This is most accurate he has been this season.

767
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Speaker 5: I think, you know, over seventy percent for the season,

768
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Speaker 5: among the top quarterbacks in the league in completion percentage.

769
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Speaker 6: So to me, it's been.

770
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Speaker 5: It seems they are trying to find an efficient way

771
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Speaker 5: getting the ball out of Lamar's hands quicker.

772
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Speaker 6: We've seen that as well.

773
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Speaker 5: The amount of time that it takes from when he

774
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Speaker 5: takes the staff to when he's getting rid of the

775
00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:28,120
Speaker 5: ball is the lowest it's ever been in his career

776
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Speaker 5: at this point. So all of those things, you know,

777
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Speaker 5: are very different than in the past. That said, there's

778
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Speaker 5: still very much a work in progress. None of these

779
00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:41,280
Speaker 5: guys played together in the preseason. We've even heard them

780
00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:45,000
Speaker 5: talk about, Look, we're still a work in progress. We're

781
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:48,120
Speaker 5: still not as good as we can be. Odell Beckham

782
00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:52,200
Speaker 5: talked about this earlier in the week, so to me,

783
00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:56,280
Speaker 5: all the you know, all of those things have been

784
00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:59,600
Speaker 5: very different. But we haven't really seen this Ravens team

785
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:02,520
Speaker 5: click I would say one hundred percent at this point

786
00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:03,480
Speaker 5: on offense yet.

787
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Speaker 4: And it's a Detroit Lions team that's playing some pretty

788
00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:09,600
Speaker 4: good football defensively too. I think the only team in

789
00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:12,080
Speaker 4: the NFL that's not allowed one hundred yard rusher. I

790
00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:14,239
Speaker 4: think the Ravens are like one on a twenty two

791
00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:16,600
Speaker 4: game one hundred yard streak. So one of those is

792
00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:18,960
Speaker 4: going to have to give this week, so that'll be interesting.

793
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:21,319
Speaker 4: I know the Lions are very much prepared for the

794
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:23,239
Speaker 4: Ravens run get and they know that that's what they

795
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:24,680
Speaker 4: what they want to do. Bro I got a couple

796
00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:28,840
Speaker 4: more quick ones for injury injury situations, Any injury concerns

797
00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:30,799
Speaker 4: the Ravens have coming in with any guys.

798
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Speaker 5: Well, the biggest injury really is is in that secondary.

799
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Speaker 5: Of course, Marcus Williams, their safety. He had just come

800
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Speaker 5: back from a shoulder or rather sorry a pectorial injury,

801
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:45,040
Speaker 5: but really seemed to be struggling when it came to

802
00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:50,319
Speaker 5: tackle in and then of course gets injured last week

803
00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:55,120
Speaker 5: except as a hamstring injury, so his status is questionable.

804
00:34:55,320 --> 00:35:00,040
Speaker 5: Brent Irvin the defensive end, I think he's got a

805
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:03,080
Speaker 5: bit of a neck issue, maybe a stinger there. Quarnerback

806
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:06,080
Speaker 5: Kevon Seymour with an ankle. He was missing from practice

807
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:11,960
Speaker 5: on Wednesday. That said, you know, this is probably pretty

808
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:14,160
Speaker 5: close to about as healthy as this group has been

809
00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:17,440
Speaker 5: all year. They've got a couple of offensive lineman back

810
00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:19,640
Speaker 5: and Ronnie Stanley and Morgan Moses.

811
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Speaker 6: But again, you know it's a fine line in the NFL.

812
00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:26,879
Speaker 6: So this is a group that has battled a lot

813
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Speaker 6: of injuries.

814
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Speaker 5: Really, I think the most injured team in the League

815
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Speaker 5: through the first four weeks of the season, where they

816
00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:37,000
Speaker 5: lost a ton of players, be it upfront, be it

817
00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:40,560
Speaker 5: in the secondary. Even Odell Beckham, we saw him miss

818
00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:43,480
Speaker 5: a couple of games, so they Rashad Bateman and other

819
00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:49,120
Speaker 5: receiver missington times. So that said, most guys I would say,

820
00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:52,359
Speaker 5: seemed to be healthy at this point, or at least

821
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:54,160
Speaker 5: as healthy as they happened in a while.

822
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Speaker 4: And lastly for me, and again I'm talking with Brian Wacker,

823
00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:00,000
Speaker 4: beat writer for the Baltimore Sun. Does a great job

824
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:04,120
Speaker 4: covering everything Ravens down there in Baltimore. The Lions have

825
00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:06,239
Speaker 4: taken the show on the road pretty good here in

826
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Speaker 4: Kansas City and Green Bay. In Tampa Bay last week

827
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:12,960
Speaker 4: we signed kind of saw a Lions fan takeover. I mean,

828
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Speaker 4: they've had probably ten to fifteen thousand, Brian in each

829
00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:18,839
Speaker 4: of those road games and they become loud at the end.

830
00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:21,719
Speaker 4: Has there been any talk in Baltimore about that? Now,

831
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Speaker 4: obviously that's a very you know, you know, well run organization, a.

832
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Speaker 1: Historic franchise.

833
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:31,080
Speaker 4: In terms of the support they've got from the fan base,

834
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Speaker 4: I think the expectations maybe not what we've seen in

835
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Speaker 4: terms of Lions fans on the road. But has that

836
00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:39,319
Speaker 4: been talked about at all in Baltimore. Has there been

837
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Speaker 4: any sense of trying to keep Lions fans maybe out

838
00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:44,439
Speaker 4: of M and T. Banks Stadium because the first three

839
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:45,839
Speaker 4: opponents haven't been able to do it.

840
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Speaker 5: Yeah, it'll be interesting because, as you mentioned, the Lions fans,

841
00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:55,120
Speaker 5: you guys travel well, so it will be fascinating. The

842
00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:58,759
Speaker 5: Ravens have one of the more dedicated fan bases. They

843
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:01,839
Speaker 5: had a big presence in London. There were a number

844
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:04,000
Speaker 5: of fans on my flight over on the flight back,

845
00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:08,000
Speaker 5: so be interesting to see if they're able to keep

846
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:11,719
Speaker 5: you know, the Lions fan presence to a minimum. But

847
00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:14,200
Speaker 5: given what you just said, I would expect there to

848
00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:19,280
Speaker 5: be some Lions fans there, which could be interesting for sure.

849
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:24,960
Speaker 5: But look, Ravens have been you know, they have a

850
00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:28,280
Speaker 5: huge fan base at home, and so it'll be interesting

851
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:31,120
Speaker 5: to see again if they're able to keep those Lions

852
00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:31,680
Speaker 5: fans away.

853
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Speaker 4: I know my expectation is probably not going to see

854
00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:37,000
Speaker 4: as much as we did before, but it should be

855
00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:38,759
Speaker 4: a terrific game. I think these are two teams that

856
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:40,920
Speaker 4: are very evenly matched up. I think it's one of

857
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:43,279
Speaker 4: the better games this weekend and obviously a big game

858
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:45,160
Speaker 4: for both teams as the Lions tried to go to

859
00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:48,439
Speaker 4: six and one Baltimore obviously to five and two. So, Brian,

860
00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:50,879
Speaker 4: I appreciate you taking the time so much. I can't

861
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:52,279
Speaker 4: wait to get down there and enjoy a little bit

862
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:54,520
Speaker 4: of seafood. Hopefully the weather's good and I'll make sure

863
00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:57,239
Speaker 4: I stop buy and say hello. Looking forward to it,

864
00:37:57,719 --> 00:38:08,320
Speaker 4: all right, Thanks Brian. Welcome back to the Twin in

865
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Speaker 4: the Huddle podcast, and I'm very happy to welcome in

866
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Speaker 4: Isaiah Bugs, defensive tackle or the.

867
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Speaker 1: Detroit Lions and friend of the show. He's been a

868
00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:17,000
Speaker 1: guest here a couple of times.

869
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:20,400
Speaker 4: And Bugs we were chatting right before the tape started

870
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Speaker 4: rolling the helmets.

871
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:22,360
Speaker 3: You guys started wearing them.

872
00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:26,200
Speaker 4: You're getting acclimated for your Monday night game against against

873
00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:27,080
Speaker 4: the Las Vegas.

874
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:27,640
Speaker 1: You like them?

875
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:29,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, him is a dope, man. They dope.

876
00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:32,720
Speaker 7: They sweet, so we all like them. Were all excited

877
00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:33,600
Speaker 7: about wearing those.

878
00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:36,440
Speaker 1: Pretty fun to get out in practice with something a

879
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:37,000
Speaker 1: little bit new.

880
00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:39,880
Speaker 4: You guys are all trying them out, getting them acclimated today.

881
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:43,480
Speaker 7: Yeah, they dope, man. Everybody excited about wearing those on

882
00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:44,120
Speaker 7: Monday night.

883
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:46,279
Speaker 4: It's just fun to play on Monday night too, right,

884
00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:48,840
Speaker 4: I mean, you guys have had Thursdays. You got Monday

885
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:51,399
Speaker 4: Night coming up, you guys, I'm sure if you keep

886
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:54,120
Speaker 4: this up, you're gonna be flexed into primetime more just.

887
00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:55,000
Speaker 1: As a player.

888
00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:59,840
Speaker 4: Obviously, you guys are creatures of habits sometimes, and I

889
00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:01,279
Speaker 4: know that throws it off a little bit, but how

890
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:03,760
Speaker 4: much fun of you guys haven't being featured on Thursday

891
00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:06,920
Speaker 4: night playing Monday night games and so forth?

892
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:09,960
Speaker 2: It's fun? Man, Primetime always fun.

893
00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:13,839
Speaker 7: I mean you're the only game playing and that night

894
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:16,040
Speaker 7: and everybody get a chance to watch you all across

895
00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:19,799
Speaker 7: the world. Prime Time is always always fun. And you

896
00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:22,640
Speaker 7: know it's a challenge also because the whole world is watching,

897
00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:24,680
Speaker 7: so you know you gotta have it. You got to

898
00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:27,680
Speaker 7: be mentally and physically ready for a primetime game.

899
00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:30,040
Speaker 4: I want you to have you on because it's Baltimore

900
00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:31,840
Speaker 4: week and obviously you played at Pittsburgh.

901
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:34,400
Speaker 1: You know this team really well. And when you when.

902
00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:39,799
Speaker 4: You talk about Baltimore, right, you talk about consistency, physical, right,

903
00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:43,080
Speaker 4: tough football team. They have a mentality that that they're

904
00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:45,680
Speaker 4: all about. And that's kind of something I think that

905
00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:48,359
Speaker 4: you guys are starting to have here too, right now,

906
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:51,400
Speaker 4: Just how important is that when people think of the

907
00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:56,400
Speaker 4: Detroit Lions, they think of physical football, gritty, versatile, you know,

908
00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:58,560
Speaker 4: those kind of things that you're building. The good teams

909
00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:00,840
Speaker 4: seem to have those things that you kind of tie

910
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:01,120
Speaker 4: them to.

911
00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:04,960
Speaker 7: Right most definitely Baltimore, if you cut on their family,

912
00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:07,640
Speaker 7: you look at them, man, they play through the whistle,

913
00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:10,600
Speaker 7: they finished, and they try to be physical with you.

914
00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:15,319
Speaker 7: This game particularly is not gonna be about stat. It's

915
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:18,680
Speaker 7: gonna be about a team. You know, everybody doing their job,

916
00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:20,840
Speaker 7: everybody being in their gaps when they're supposed to be.

917
00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:22,319
Speaker 2: Kind of like last week.

918
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:25,239
Speaker 7: Last week when we played the Buccaneers, it wasn't a

919
00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:28,480
Speaker 7: big stat game. It was a team game. And you're

920
00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:30,480
Speaker 7: gonna have these type of games that's on the schedule.

921
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:34,279
Speaker 7: It's gonna be all physically, mentally, it's gonna it's gonna

922
00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:36,600
Speaker 7: be all our war. And you know, Dan put us

923
00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:39,880
Speaker 7: in a situation every day and prepare us for these

924
00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:42,000
Speaker 7: type of games and we'll be ready. But if you

925
00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:44,520
Speaker 7: cut on the film Baltimore, their physical team, They play

926
00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:46,680
Speaker 7: through the whistle and they want to attack you in

927
00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:49,520
Speaker 7: different ways and get you out your gap, So we

928
00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:53,240
Speaker 7: gotta be fundamentally sound on everything we do come Sunday.

929
00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:54,960
Speaker 4: You know, and you guys have been terrific at that

930
00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:57,759
Speaker 4: and really dating back to week two, you know, and

931
00:40:58,239 --> 00:40:59,640
Speaker 4: after the loss to Seattle.

932
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:01,399
Speaker 1: Trust bugs. It's kind of like a.

933
00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:04,520
Speaker 4: Word, I think when you look it seems like guys

934
00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:06,799
Speaker 4: are trusting the guy next to them to do their

935
00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:09,080
Speaker 4: job so they don't have to get out of their gap,

936
00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:11,760
Speaker 4: try to do the job of two guys. Just everybody

937
00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:15,040
Speaker 4: doing their job, everybody trusting themselves. Is that how good

938
00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:15,879
Speaker 4: defenses play?

939
00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:19,200
Speaker 7: Most definitely ag elaborated on that today this morning a

940
00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:23,120
Speaker 7: defensive meeting, just doing your job, trusting a guy that's

941
00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:25,399
Speaker 7: behind you, trusting a guy that's on saioday that they're

942
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:26,200
Speaker 7: going to do their.

943
00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:28,200
Speaker 2: Job and not try to be a hero.

944
00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:31,040
Speaker 7: And that's where you have a lot of good defense

945
00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:33,200
Speaker 7: and a lot of bad defenses. The bad defense want

946
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:35,080
Speaker 7: to have guys to do their own thing, make their

947
00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:36,839
Speaker 7: own plays out the scheme, and.

948
00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:38,120
Speaker 2: Just want to be a hero.

949
00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:42,359
Speaker 7: And those good defenses everybody fundamentally sound and focus on

950
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:44,880
Speaker 7: doing their job and making plays within the scheme.

951
00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:46,200
Speaker 2: Those are good defense.

952
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:48,799
Speaker 4: How important is that this week too? Obviously facing a

953
00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:51,760
Speaker 4: dynamic player and Lamar Jackson, a guy who's a former MVP.

954
00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:52,880
Speaker 1: Now their offense has.

955
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:53,839
Speaker 2: Changed a little bit.

956
00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:57,160
Speaker 4: They're making him a drop back passer, not so much

957
00:41:57,160 --> 00:41:59,759
Speaker 4: of the design runs, but that's still very much a

958
00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:00,959
Speaker 4: threat of his game.

959
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:02,600
Speaker 1: How important is that this week?

960
00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:05,920
Speaker 7: It's very important when you're going against a guy like

961
00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:08,360
Speaker 7: Lamar Jackson with his skill set and his talent.

962
00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:12,240
Speaker 2: The things that he could do with his legs is amazing.

963
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:14,920
Speaker 7: So we got to be able to have gray eye

964
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:18,319
Speaker 7: coordination on rushing this guy. We got to have those

965
00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:20,560
Speaker 7: rush lanes. We got to push the pocket on. We

966
00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:22,800
Speaker 7: got to make sure that he can't hurt us with

967
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:25,799
Speaker 7: his legs. And once we take away that run game,

968
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:29,440
Speaker 7: we can focus on the past game and stopping that.

969
00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:32,080
Speaker 2: But we gotta be fundamentally sign with our rush lanes.

970
00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:32,560
Speaker 2: This week.

971
00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:34,279
Speaker 4: I want to talk about you a little bit because

972
00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:37,040
Speaker 4: you've been playing some terrific football. Of Like, obviously the

973
00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:40,440
Speaker 4: season didn't start the way you wanted to with the Enactors,

974
00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:43,279
Speaker 4: but look, instead of making a big deal out of it, right,

975
00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:45,520
Speaker 4: you put your head down, You just continue to go

976
00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:45,839
Speaker 4: to work.

977
00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:46,880
Speaker 2: You can you do grind.

978
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:49,759
Speaker 4: He gets your opportunity and then bugs you're playing some

979
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:52,080
Speaker 4: terrific football the last few weeks. You get the sack

980
00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:54,680
Speaker 4: a couple of weeks ago, have the huge play last

981
00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:56,759
Speaker 4: week to get your hand on the ball, create the

982
00:42:56,800 --> 00:43:00,800
Speaker 4: interception set up points. Just tell me kind of about

983
00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:03,440
Speaker 4: the world wind of this season and how it's gotten

984
00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:05,560
Speaker 4: to this point where you're playing really good football right now.

985
00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:08,960
Speaker 7: I mean, as you look at it, just not with football,

986
00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:11,759
Speaker 7: just in life. Period is always gonna be obstacles, and

987
00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:15,040
Speaker 7: it's two things that you can do. Either you can

988
00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:18,359
Speaker 7: overcome those obstacles or you can fall down and let

989
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:21,640
Speaker 7: those obstacles beat you up. And obviously with me, I'm

990
00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:24,600
Speaker 7: a head down person, go to work everyday mentality. And

991
00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:26,680
Speaker 7: the season it started like I didn't want it to,

992
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:29,680
Speaker 7: but you know, I had to go to work. And

993
00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:31,719
Speaker 7: what I mean by go to work is whatever these

994
00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:33,960
Speaker 7: coaches had me in line to do, I had to

995
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:36,480
Speaker 7: buy in and do that. And once my number got

996
00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:38,879
Speaker 7: called back, I knew I had to deliver. And that's

997
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:41,840
Speaker 7: that's what I was just doing, working and and I delivered.

998
00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:44,319
Speaker 7: You know, it's a journey. Everything you do in life

999
00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:46,360
Speaker 7: is going to be a journey, and it's up to

1000
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:48,040
Speaker 7: you what road you can take. You could take the

1001
00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:49,880
Speaker 7: right one or you can take the wrong one. And

1002
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:52,720
Speaker 7: you know, I just my two benches at those games.

1003
00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:54,960
Speaker 7: I just decided I'm going to take the right path

1004
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:57,319
Speaker 7: and you know, lead to social media out of it

1005
00:43:57,400 --> 00:43:59,040
Speaker 7: and just head down and go to work. And that's

1006
00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:01,160
Speaker 7: what I did, And things are happening in my favor.

1007
00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:01,839
Speaker 7: Within the team.

1008
00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:04,359
Speaker 4: It's got to be really rewarding, not just how you're playing,

1009
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:06,560
Speaker 4: but how this defense is playing too. Man uys having

1010
00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:08,840
Speaker 4: a lot of one hundred yard rusher. You guys rank in

1011
00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:10,000
Speaker 4: the top ten in pretty.

1012
00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:12,040
Speaker 1: Much every category. How happy are.

1013
00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:14,319
Speaker 4: You for Aaron Glenn and the way this is going

1014
00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:16,400
Speaker 4: for him? Because he took a lot of criticism obviously,

1015
00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:19,759
Speaker 4: you know, with how kind of it started, how to

1016
00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:21,600
Speaker 4: start last year and then he was able to turn

1017
00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:24,040
Speaker 4: around last year and the way he started this year.

1018
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:26,400
Speaker 4: You know, he's getting a lot of the praise.

1019
00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:28,480
Speaker 2: Now. How how happy you for him for that?

1020
00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:31,680
Speaker 7: I'm very happy for coach ag is a great player.

1021
00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:34,520
Speaker 7: Great I mean he is a great coach. He loved

1022
00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:39,200
Speaker 7: his players, He buys in to everything and that we're doing.

1023
00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:43,480
Speaker 7: And just to see a defensive coordinator be that passionate

1024
00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:47,200
Speaker 7: about his players, not only just about winning, but want

1025
00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:50,400
Speaker 7: the best for his players. Those are great coaches that

1026
00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:52,760
Speaker 7: need to be around. We need to have more coaches

1027
00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:55,760
Speaker 7: like that. And then I'm happy for him. I'm excited

1028
00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:58,640
Speaker 7: for him that were able to accomplish these goals that

1029
00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:00,960
Speaker 7: we these long term goes that we've been one of

1030
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:03,640
Speaker 7: the accomplish and we're finally doing it. And we just

1031
00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:05,360
Speaker 7: got to keep doing it, you know, we got to

1032
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:09,120
Speaker 7: keep doing it and winning. When once you win, everybody

1033
00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:12,040
Speaker 7: feel good. Is not a good feeling losing. So once

1034
00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:14,240
Speaker 7: you had a taste of losing for a long time,

1035
00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:16,640
Speaker 7: you'll get tired of it. And once you start winning

1036
00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:20,160
Speaker 7: and start feeling, you start feeling that energy. And that's

1037
00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:22,360
Speaker 7: what's going on right here in Detroit. We feel that

1038
00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:26,120
Speaker 7: energy with inside this building. We're not talking about the

1039
00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:29,279
Speaker 7: energy outside of it, but the inside this building, the

1040
00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:34,720
Speaker 7: energy is great, from coaches to players.

1041
00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:35,239
Speaker 2: Just everybody. That's what happens when you win.

1042
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:38,160
Speaker 4: Outside the building, the energy has been pretty good, especially

1043
00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:39,680
Speaker 4: on the road.

1044
00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:41,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, you look at the.

1045
00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:43,600
Speaker 4: Turnout on the road, I mean bus you got to

1046
00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:46,239
Speaker 4: have ten to fifteen thousand people, and the arrow had

1047
00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:51,560
Speaker 4: at Lambeau and they took over Raymond James last week.

1048
00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:53,600
Speaker 4: It'll be I think a little more difficult. That's a

1049
00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:56,640
Speaker 4: pretty faithful fan base in Baltimore. But just talk about

1050
00:45:56,880 --> 00:46:00,200
Speaker 4: the excitement do you do you feel it as players

1051
00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:00,759
Speaker 4: as we feel it.

1052
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:00,960
Speaker 2: Man.

1053
00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:03,880
Speaker 7: We appreciate our fans. We appreciate everybody who come and

1054
00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:08,200
Speaker 7: support us, and it helps us tremendously on these away

1055
00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:11,759
Speaker 7: games and especially at home games. Just looking up in

1056
00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:14,680
Speaker 7: the stands and seeing that your fan base traveling with you.

1057
00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:17,920
Speaker 2: They're excited for you. We winning. That's what it's all about.

1058
00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:21,400
Speaker 7: And we just we just hope they could continue to

1059
00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:23,640
Speaker 7: support us in the way that they're doing, and we're

1060
00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:24,560
Speaker 7: excited for them.

1061
00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:26,840
Speaker 4: It's fun you're having right now. I mean it's contagious

1062
00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:29,360
Speaker 4: on defense. You guys are getting sacks, you're making plays.

1063
00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:32,000
Speaker 4: It just seems like you guys are having a hell

1064
00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:35,960
Speaker 4: of time on defense, and it's got to be fun.

1065
00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:37,319
Speaker 2: It's very fun, man.

1066
00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:40,480
Speaker 7: Watching your brothers do work, do successful work and get

1067
00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:44,160
Speaker 7: rewarded with big plays and all the accolades is really

1068
00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:46,319
Speaker 7: fun watching and being a part of it.

1069
00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:48,319
Speaker 2: That's what I always wanted to be a part of. Man.

1070
00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:50,600
Speaker 2: It's my fifth year in the league. I've been with Pittsburg.

1071
00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:53,720
Speaker 7: I was with the Raiders for a couple of weeks,

1072
00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:56,160
Speaker 7: you know, and then I went I was going around

1073
00:46:56,239 --> 00:46:58,360
Speaker 7: here and there trying to find a team. And you know,

1074
00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:01,719
Speaker 7: when Detroit came, always been a family from the first

1075
00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:03,759
Speaker 7: day I walked into the door, and that's it. And

1076
00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:06,719
Speaker 7: it's still like that. And we always having fun. And

1077
00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:09,200
Speaker 7: you know, we don't really like that. We don't really

1078
00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:12,239
Speaker 7: get down on bad plays or bad situations, and we

1079
00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:15,040
Speaker 7: eat it up and we go forward it and move

1080
00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:17,239
Speaker 7: on to the next week or the next play, and

1081
00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:19,239
Speaker 7: you know, we have fun with everything we're doing here.

1082
00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:20,280
Speaker 2: And it's a site.

1083
00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:22,360
Speaker 1: That's been a stalwart the first six weeks.

1084
00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:22,680
Speaker 2: For sure.

1085
00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:24,480
Speaker 1: You guys are five and one looking to go six

1086
00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:26,759
Speaker 1: and one. The excitement is real.

1087
00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:27,440
Speaker 2: It's powerful.

1088
00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:29,400
Speaker 4: You can feel it around Detroit, you can feel it

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Speaker 4: in this building. Go play some good football in Baltimore.

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Speaker 4: Continue to play good defense and have fun.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, appreciate Thanks Bucks.