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Speaker 1: The Around the NFL podcast sets the alarm for six

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Speaker 1: seven from the Chris Westling podcast studio. It's Around the NFL.

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Speaker 1: I have no idea what that zummy drop was. Well,

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Speaker 1: we were told before the show that it was specifically

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Speaker 1: designed to please Greg, but I don't like alarms that

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Speaker 1: like round numbers generally, and so maybe it's also talking

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Speaker 1: about our big World Cup match, because that game starts

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Speaker 1: at seven am on Saturday. Fox tries to confuse us

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Speaker 1: by saying six am, but that's just an hour on pregame.

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Speaker 1: So great news for the old. So you're gonna get

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Speaker 1: you're gonna get about healthy thirteen minutes before the soccer

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Speaker 1: match begins. So that is a remarkably like Greg esoteric

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Speaker 1: money drop, our zummy drop about your alarm clock that

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Speaker 1: you said? Okay, I think Dan Hands is here with

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Speaker 1: Greg Rosenthal Mark se slur it is time for the

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Speaker 1: week thirteen preview. How about that? I mean, I've got

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Speaker 1: a seven year old. There's no need for alarm class.

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Speaker 1: I haven't set an alarmed. I hear it not for

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Speaker 1: a fight in a long time. I hear you, brothers.

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Speaker 1: Just a bunch of dad's here, a bunch of dad's

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Speaker 1: chopping it up. Um, this is a great week. WHOA.

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Speaker 1: In fact, I feel like everything's been building to this week.

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Speaker 1: In fact, you could say, old Zoser, you know you

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Speaker 1: developed a stomach virus. It's contracted from your young son

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Speaker 1: from his school, his first grade class, his kindergarten class.

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Speaker 1: How could you feel be feeling so good right now?

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Speaker 1: Number one, I'm not feeling good at all. Number two,

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Speaker 1: this keeps me alive Week thirteen. Hope it bounds for you.

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Speaker 1: And also, I mean just a credit to you for

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Speaker 1: mean for it to navigate to that conversation. There is

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Speaker 1: some help here to put a plexiglass window. I think

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Speaker 1: that uh that you know en casement that kirk Cousins

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Speaker 1: Can we put Dan in now? I think you put

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Speaker 1: it well on Tuesday Show, Greg when you said listen,

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Speaker 1: we're family. Now we're in too deep. So that's it.

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Speaker 1: We all we trade viruses. Great kirk cousins Is body

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Speaker 1: is like surprisingly saucy. Um. I did not sign up

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Speaker 1: to catch a virus by the way. That's not why

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Speaker 1: I reported to work today. Family's family man. So Week

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Speaker 1: thirteen it's a killer. It's awesome. And also the calendar

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Speaker 1: turned din't itt. Mike McDaniel, there is nothing better in

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Speaker 1: professional football and meaningful December and January games. Nothing better,

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Speaker 1: That's true. I love that guy. Everything he says is

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Speaker 1: like like more entertaining than anyone else saying. It's incredible

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Speaker 1: that it's working, and I'm saying it as a Jets fan.

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Speaker 1: I love that the Mike McDaniel era is working, that

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Speaker 1: at least until now, because now the Dolphins get challenged

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Speaker 1: and we're gonna get into that. We will. He's right, though,

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Speaker 1: it is the after you get past week one, which

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Speaker 1: is fun. It's like it's building and building, and so

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Speaker 1: this is the best part. We need a name for

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Speaker 1: it's easily the best Sunday and we have we have

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Speaker 1: hours and hours to figure it out. But for now,

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Speaker 1: let us spin into the week. How exciting. And by

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Speaker 1: the way, the Bills Patriots that's a good game too,

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Speaker 1: kicking off the week on Thursday night and you can

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Speaker 1: check out a reaction to that on the Friday Fun

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Speaker 1: Show Around the NFL's um weekly program that has fan engagement.

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Speaker 1: games after Thursday night football. Let's get into the the

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Speaker 1: just as we pumped up this week, now we're gonna

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Speaker 1: talk about the cults in prime time. How that happens

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Speaker 1: Colts at Cowboys. This feels like a blood bath. That's

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Speaker 1: how Greg. I think you're right. I'm annoyed. It just

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Speaker 1: They've been doing for years, though I don't know what.

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Speaker 1: So I'm enjoying the whole Cowboys experience. I don't hate

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Speaker 1: security issues. It just feels like a Murphy's Lost season

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Speaker 1: because the Bucks took care of him a week too.

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Speaker 1: All that, all this stuff about the Saints, anything about

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Speaker 1: more importantly, Sean Payton. Nothing about the Saints is what

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Speaker 1: I can't really remember too many rushing attacks that are worse.

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Speaker 1: It just so happens that US is the first overall pick. However, Mark,

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Speaker 1: I have the first overall pick, but I'd like to

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Speaker 1: to know why you're doing that. I have a right,

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Speaker 1: I don't know if Dan Snooker do you here, but

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Speaker 1: You know again, this is just because you're not involved

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Speaker 1: number three, breaking news, Well, we got breaking news. We

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Speaker 1: Greg's bitterness that he's not involved in this? Because he's

428
00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:45,960
Speaker 1: not involved? I think that's what it's all about. But

429
00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:47,520
Speaker 1: it makes sense to me. And of course you know

430
00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:49,600
Speaker 1: there's no secrets here, Like you don't want to take

431
00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:51,600
Speaker 1: the Jets first. No, and I know I could get

432
00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:53,920
Speaker 1: some more value, maybe even next week. So anyway, Mark

433
00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:59,240
Speaker 1: get going all right, well, wow there he did a

434
00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:01,320
Speaker 1: great job. He did great job. I know it annoyed

435
00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:04,840
Speaker 1: him and probably Um prevented him something more enjoyable. It

436
00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:09,040
Speaker 1: really annoyed Greg. Came out of my mouth. Yeah, when

437
00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:11,080
Speaker 1: we began talking about that, I just want I don't

438
00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:12,879
Speaker 1: want to skin you know, I don't want to see

439
00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:15,600
Speaker 1: market taken advantage. Don't let him. Don't let him do

440
00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:18,280
Speaker 1: the thing that I don't feel taken advantage of too,

441
00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:20,560
Speaker 1: because you know, I don't even think he knows what

442
00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:23,400
Speaker 1: he's talking about. He just wanted perfectly comfortable with how

443
00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:27,520
Speaker 1: and it's not going to be allowed. I'm gonna go

444
00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:31,119
Speaker 1: Chiefs at Bengals, right because I wouldn't have this if

445
00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:33,640
Speaker 1: I picked number three before, I wouldn't have this game.

446
00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:36,399
Speaker 1: And so this is a delightful development to me. That

447
00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:39,280
Speaker 1: in your pipe and smoke and smoke it, Greg, So

448
00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:41,840
Speaker 1: you look at He's like, yes, I'll smoke it anything.

449
00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:46,480
Speaker 1: Just after the show, please, Um Chase, you're coming back

450
00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:50,440
Speaker 1: Joe Mixon practicing. Look what the Bengals have done. I

451
00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:53,160
Speaker 1: think it's underrated what they've done without Jamar Chase, without

452
00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:55,440
Speaker 1: Joe Mixon, And we talked about a little on Sunday though,

453
00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:57,800
Speaker 1: that Joe Burrow have found a way to get some

454
00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:00,680
Speaker 1: g P Ryan tray Vin Williams to combined for a

455
00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:03,440
Speaker 1: hundred and thirty five yards last week and a big

456
00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:06,560
Speaker 1: win over the Titans. Guys like Trenton Irwin stepped up.

457
00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:09,960
Speaker 1: But now you're getting Jamar Chase back and the development

458
00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:13,399
Speaker 1: of te Higgins into a truly star wide receiver over

459
00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:16,159
Speaker 1: the past month beside him. I I look at this

460
00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:19,360
Speaker 1: Bengals offense that outside of that Bengal that Brown's disaster

461
00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:21,159
Speaker 1: on Monday Night, which I view as sort of a

462
00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:25,280
Speaker 1: Inner Division aberration, have been averaging well over four hundred

463
00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:27,479
Speaker 1: yards a game for the past month, and it just

464
00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:31,040
Speaker 1: seems like we focus on all these other the Dolphins,

465
00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:34,439
Speaker 1: the Niners, the Bengals are going a little overlooked. I

466
00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:37,160
Speaker 1: feel like that how was how it was last year? Um,

467
00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:39,400
Speaker 1: I think they can have the horses to go give

468
00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:42,560
Speaker 1: Kansas City a run for their money here in Kansas City.

469
00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:44,959
Speaker 1: I look like I know last week it was the Rams,

470
00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:48,280
Speaker 1: but the Rams defense I thought slowed Kansas City down

471
00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:50,400
Speaker 1: a little bit at least in their drives kept ending

472
00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:52,160
Speaker 1: in the red zone. Do I think that's a week

473
00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:54,520
Speaker 1: to week thing. No, because Patrick Mahomes is the clear

474
00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:57,000
Speaker 1: front runner for m v P. But I look at

475
00:23:57,040 --> 00:23:59,960
Speaker 1: this Bengals defense and the way that they Jalen Hurt

476
00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:01,679
Speaker 1: wants a word there, but well, I think that's that's

477
00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:03,439
Speaker 1: a fair But I mean, Mahomes I think would have

478
00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:05,639
Speaker 1: to really stumble to not be my m v P

479
00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:08,200
Speaker 1: at this point. But I think the the return of

480
00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:11,840
Speaker 1: DJ Reader has been big for Cincinnati. That defensive line

481
00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:14,240
Speaker 1: last week made tough life very tough on the Titans,

482
00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:17,000
Speaker 1: and their all offensive line kept Joe Burrow relatively safe,

483
00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:18,479
Speaker 1: which is a big development. And I know you've got

484
00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:20,720
Speaker 1: Chris Jones and stuff on the Chiefs coming at you

485
00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:23,520
Speaker 1: this time around, But I like the Cincinnati where they're going,

486
00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:25,600
Speaker 1: where they're trending right now. I think they're not talked

487
00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:29,600
Speaker 1: about enough. I love this game. Totally agree with all

488
00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:32,119
Speaker 1: your points and where they are at. They are a

489
00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:35,600
Speaker 1: different team right now and if they can win this game,

490
00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:37,640
Speaker 1: and I think they can, I picked them to win

491
00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:39,960
Speaker 1: on game picks. I mean it's a it's a coin flip.

492
00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:42,639
Speaker 1: But it's in Cincinnati, and I don't think this is

493
00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:44,399
Speaker 1: this would be some big upset. I think they're one

494
00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:47,320
Speaker 1: or two point underdogs, which sounds about right. It's close

495
00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:49,160
Speaker 1: to a coin flip because of the way that they're

496
00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:52,719
Speaker 1: playing up front. When when the Bengals are winning up

497
00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:56,159
Speaker 1: front against Tennessee. You gotta hand it to him. I

498
00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:58,240
Speaker 1: gotta hand it to Zach Taylor. I think it's time

499
00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:01,679
Speaker 1: to upgrade. You can wear the lolo, but how about

500
00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:04,119
Speaker 1: a nice little sport coat on top of it. You know,

501
00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:07,080
Speaker 1: let's dress it up. Let's dress it up and go

502
00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:09,800
Speaker 1: out for dinner with the with your with your lady.

503
00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:13,119
Speaker 1: This is playing in SINCEUS headquarters. Gonna says, instead of

504
00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:15,679
Speaker 1: going on with the polo bit, how about a pivot

505
00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:19,960
Speaker 1: to some damn respect for this man. I mean, we

506
00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:23,520
Speaker 1: don't have to go too far. I I thought within

507
00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:26,159
Speaker 1: the bit. I think the sport code is adding respect.

508
00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:30,320
Speaker 1: I'm putting were the way you spoke of him in

509
00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:33,320
Speaker 1: such disparaging tones in September after he went to the

510
00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:38,000
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. It's the same dude, Okay. I still think

511
00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:40,719
Speaker 1: and this was my main point back then, was the

512
00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:44,040
Speaker 1: main reason why they're so good is their players. They

513
00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:47,480
Speaker 1: have more talent than, yeah, than Kansas City. But I

514
00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:50,840
Speaker 1: just mean that you can almost there's no way for

515
00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:53,480
Speaker 1: this offense, the way that they're playing to to not

516
00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:57,000
Speaker 1: be effective. But offensive line wise, that's the That's the

517
00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:59,880
Speaker 1: thing that really impresses me that they have gotten better.

518
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:02,520
Speaker 1: Think over the course of the season, and I look

519
00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:05,000
Speaker 1: at Kansas City and what we haven't seen out of

520
00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:07,400
Speaker 1: them is like these great defensive games. They haven't had

521
00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:10,000
Speaker 1: too many difficult matchups. I actually think this might be

522
00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:12,760
Speaker 1: Kansas City's last chance for a loss. Of course, the

523
00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:16,040
Speaker 1: NFL is unpredictable, but even if Kansas City lost this game,

524
00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:18,280
Speaker 1: I look at their schedule and I could see them

525
00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:21,320
Speaker 1: cruising through the end and and still getting that one seed.

526
00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:24,760
Speaker 1: But man, wouldn't be impressive for Cincinnati to beat Tennessee

527
00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:27,440
Speaker 1: and Kansas City and back to back weeks exactly what

528
00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:29,920
Speaker 1: they did in the playoffs a year ago and kind

529
00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:32,960
Speaker 1: of say like we're here and we're not going anywhere.

530
00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:36,000
Speaker 1: It would be a statement. Yeah, I think with Mahomes,

531
00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:37,840
Speaker 1: I feel like Mahomes is, even though I know Tom

532
00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:40,360
Speaker 1: Brady is still in the league, he's to me kind

533
00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:43,439
Speaker 1: of that Brady guy now where where it's when he

534
00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:45,520
Speaker 1: gets to the end of the season. I just don't

535
00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:48,240
Speaker 1: expect him to ever lose. And to that point is

536
00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:50,879
Speaker 1: the calendar has now turned over in December. Uh. In

537
00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:53,719
Speaker 1: the last three seasons, the Chiefs are thirteen and oh

538
00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:57,040
Speaker 1: in December. And uh, his numbers, as you would expect,

539
00:26:57,280 --> 00:27:00,560
Speaker 1: are off the charts. Good. Uh he is the Burrow

540
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:03,960
Speaker 1: out shown him. I guess that was January, right, yeah, yeah,

541
00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:11,000
Speaker 1: this is only December. So to pivot to my other point, uh, man,

542
00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:13,359
Speaker 1: I don't want anything to do with the Cincinnati Bengals

543
00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:16,040
Speaker 1: right now. I if I am playing the Bengals, I'm

544
00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:19,920
Speaker 1: scared because now that they have seemed seemingly figured out

545
00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:24,000
Speaker 1: their offensive line, the fact that they are playing with confidence,

546
00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:26,400
Speaker 1: you could tell they got their their juice back. You're

547
00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:30,960
Speaker 1: getting Jamaar Chase Back and Joe Burrow. My guy is

548
00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:34,040
Speaker 1: an assassin. Do you want anything to do with Joe

549
00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:37,639
Speaker 1: Burrow in a big spotlight game, whether it's gonna be

550
00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:40,159
Speaker 1: in the regular season or in January. This guy is

551
00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:42,760
Speaker 1: gonna win super Bowls. I mean, because I think he

552
00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:46,760
Speaker 1: is special, just like Mahomes is special. So this is

553
00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:48,760
Speaker 1: I think this is a very good first pick is

554
00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:50,520
Speaker 1: a total coin flip to make Burrow. To me, it

555
00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:52,520
Speaker 1: just showed me so much over the last three or

556
00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:54,000
Speaker 1: four weeks to do what he did with so many

557
00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:56,160
Speaker 1: people out of the lineup. I mean, this Chief's offense,

558
00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:58,879
Speaker 1: they're part of the deal is stopping them. Last week

559
00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:02,240
Speaker 1: they attend to from players with fifteen plus receiving yards.

560
00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:05,400
Speaker 1: That is the most in the game by any team

561
00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:07,520
Speaker 1: ever since nineteen fifty. It just tells you that they're

562
00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:10,280
Speaker 1: not based. It's not like Chiefs teams of old. They're

563
00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:13,600
Speaker 1: using everyone, and it's maybe not a deep strike offense

564
00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:15,640
Speaker 1: like it has been in the past, but they find

565
00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:16,760
Speaker 1: a way to get it done. And you still have

566
00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:19,960
Speaker 1: Travis Kelsey doing insane things on a weekly basis, who's

567
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:22,439
Speaker 1: really not that different in age than Rob Grunkowski. It's

568
00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:25,080
Speaker 1: crazy what Travis Kelsey is doing right now. He's moving

569
00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:28,360
Speaker 1: so well, and you wonder how you match up von Bell.

570
00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:30,600
Speaker 1: And they did a pretty good job, certainly in the

571
00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:32,840
Speaker 1: playoff game, not so much in the regular season last

572
00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:35,720
Speaker 1: year that was a game over thirties. But the Chiefs

573
00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:39,000
Speaker 1: can expose the Bengals biggest weakness, which hasn't really shown

574
00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:41,000
Speaker 1: up in the last month or so, and to me,

575
00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:43,720
Speaker 1: that's their secondary and that's their past defense, and that's

576
00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:49,080
Speaker 1: their cornerbacks specifically. Uh, you've gotten by without a Woozier

577
00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:52,600
Speaker 1: for a month, but you were playing Mariota and Brissette,

578
00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:55,600
Speaker 1: not that you played well against Brissette, and the Panthers

579
00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:59,600
Speaker 1: and Kenny Pickett, who you didn't play very well against overall,

580
00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:02,280
Speaker 1: and the Titans, who aren't explosive, and now you gotta

581
00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:04,840
Speaker 1: play Kansas City. I think they found something in cam

582
00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:07,520
Speaker 1: Taylor Britt that was their rookie second round pick who's

583
00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:10,240
Speaker 1: played well for them at cornerback. But this is a

584
00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:13,080
Speaker 1: whole another challenge. I think the only way you beat

585
00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:16,160
Speaker 1: the Chiefs is if this game's in the thirties and

586
00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:19,440
Speaker 1: it's just a score fest like it was in Cincinnati

587
00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:22,880
Speaker 1: last January in a monster spot and and man if

588
00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:25,040
Speaker 1: the Chiefs somehow lost three at a row against the Bengals,

589
00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:28,560
Speaker 1: that would be something. All right, let's move on to

590
00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:31,680
Speaker 1: the second overall pick. Greggy, Yeah, I'm annoyed. I mean

591
00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:34,560
Speaker 1: I am annoyed by your trade because I thought I

592
00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:36,960
Speaker 1: might get to take Chiefs Bengals with the second pick,

593
00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:40,320
Speaker 1: and then I thought when Mark got it, he wouldn't

594
00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:43,080
Speaker 1: take it first overall, because I thought he'd taked off

595
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:46,320
Speaker 1: in forty niners. That's my pick. Those are the two

596
00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:49,320
Speaker 1: best games I think overall. On the day, it's close,

597
00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:52,880
Speaker 1: but those are certainly the best too in the afternoon windows.

598
00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:54,640
Speaker 1: So I want to make sure I get it. I mean,

599
00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:59,080
Speaker 1: it's just such a fascinating nerdy matchup to see Kyle

600
00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:02,120
Speaker 1: Shannahan versus is Jimmy Garoppolo. I would put these two

601
00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:05,480
Speaker 1: teams in the top six or seven most likely teams

602
00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:08,080
Speaker 1: to win the Super Bowl this year. I bet I

603
00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:11,080
Speaker 1: think they're there in Dance Power rankings in that ranking.

604
00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:15,400
Speaker 1: So to see these first two games, a matchup of

605
00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:18,040
Speaker 1: four teams here that can win the Super Bowl, you

606
00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:21,200
Speaker 1: can't ask for anything better. In Week thirteen, I first

607
00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:23,600
Speaker 1: want to see if Tron Armstead plays. That's a big

608
00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:26,760
Speaker 1: X factor. That's the left tackle for the Dolphins. He

609
00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:30,120
Speaker 1: strained his peck. It sounds like he might be pushing

610
00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:32,880
Speaker 1: to play this week when they haven't had him on

611
00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:36,480
Speaker 1: the field. Their numbers have cratered even with two out there,

612
00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:39,959
Speaker 1: just the pressure numbers have fallen apart. They will be

613
00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:42,720
Speaker 1: without their right tackle Austin Jackson and the backups that

614
00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:45,920
Speaker 1: they've put in for those guys, including Brandon Shell. We're

615
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:49,000
Speaker 1: not sure what they're gonna do. Just haven't stood up.

616
00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:52,400
Speaker 1: And I was a little underwhelmed by the forty Niners

617
00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:55,520
Speaker 1: defense last week in a shutout, relatively just their pass rush,

618
00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:57,480
Speaker 1: that they didn't win that matchup up front, and they're

619
00:30:57,600 --> 00:30:59,840
Speaker 1: much fortunate that to be zero. They didn't get much

620
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:02,600
Speaker 1: messure on Andy Dalton, but I think they'll be able

621
00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:04,920
Speaker 1: to get some pressure on too, even though he gets

622
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:07,640
Speaker 1: rid of the ball so quickly, especially if Armstead isn't there.

623
00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:10,000
Speaker 1: To me, I would like the Dolphins in that game,

624
00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:12,760
Speaker 1: if if they in this game, if it wasn't for that,

625
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:14,720
Speaker 1: that to me is the thing that worries me the

626
00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:17,000
Speaker 1: most in terms of Miami going there and maybe getting

627
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:20,440
Speaker 1: beaten up front. Well, our friend Cameron Wolff, who knows

628
00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:23,560
Speaker 1: tons of people inside the Dolphins, he was told that

629
00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:26,320
Speaker 1: Armstead has been telling people he's aiming to play. I

630
00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:29,320
Speaker 1: guess it matters what version of him you get. But

631
00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:31,440
Speaker 1: when he went out last week, to your point to

632
00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:33,920
Speaker 1: Ah was sacked like three times in a row, and

633
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:35,360
Speaker 1: like they had they pulled him out the game, not

634
00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:36,840
Speaker 1: because they were up by so much, but he was

635
00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:39,680
Speaker 1: getting killed. So it's like that is a huge kind

636
00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:42,880
Speaker 1: of Jenga piece, as Dave Dave Damask would say, for them,

637
00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:45,040
Speaker 1: there is a strange weather thing here. There's like a

638
00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:48,000
Speaker 1: seventy chance of reigning this game right now, which I

639
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:50,480
Speaker 1: think would change a lot. And the Niners on defense

640
00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:53,560
Speaker 1: have allowed under two hundred yards and three of the

641
00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:56,080
Speaker 1: last four games, So I think that matchup just this defense.

642
00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:58,200
Speaker 1: I know everyone's gonna talk about the offenses, but the

643
00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:01,200
Speaker 1: Niners one of the best defenses in the league right now,

644
00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:04,040
Speaker 1: right there with Dallas and others. How do they put

645
00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:06,280
Speaker 1: the clamps on Miami? I think that's just the situation.

646
00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:10,160
Speaker 1: Week after week, Miami just overpowering people with their wide receivers.

647
00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:12,080
Speaker 1: It's like no one's been able to stop them. And

648
00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:14,600
Speaker 1: if if Miami does what it's what it's able to do.

649
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:17,200
Speaker 1: Is this Niner's offense, which I love. I mean, they're

650
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:20,120
Speaker 1: so weapons rich. Can they hang around with the Dolphins

651
00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:22,200
Speaker 1: who have been blowing people out in the first half

652
00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:25,120
Speaker 1: game after game? Yeah, So I think I would be

653
00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:28,320
Speaker 1: stunned if they continue to do what they do, uh

654
00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:30,360
Speaker 1: to all these bad teams that they've been beating up on.

655
00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:33,080
Speaker 1: But even if there is, there's gonna be some resistance

656
00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:35,680
Speaker 1: because San Francis they're really good team San Francisco. So

657
00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:37,920
Speaker 1: but can Miami still do what they want to do

658
00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:41,240
Speaker 1: and and put San Francisco in a position where if

659
00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:43,920
Speaker 1: you're gonna beat us, you're gonna have to score twenty

660
00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:45,640
Speaker 1: eight points and then it's like there, and then you're

661
00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:48,800
Speaker 1: putting pressure on Jimmy G to be a guy that

662
00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:50,600
Speaker 1: has to be maybe a little different than the good

663
00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:53,320
Speaker 1: times Jimmy G when the defense is kicking ass and

664
00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:54,760
Speaker 1: then all he has to do is just make a

665
00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:57,440
Speaker 1: few plays. I'm interested to see what's going on in

666
00:32:57,440 --> 00:33:00,480
Speaker 1: the backfield for San Francisco because I'm looking at the

667
00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:05,640
Speaker 1: practice injury report from Wednesday. Cmc uh did not practice.

668
00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:08,880
Speaker 1: He's dealing with some neat irritation. We know, of course,

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00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:12,120
Speaker 1: Elijah Mitchell is back on I R with an m

670
00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:15,400
Speaker 1: c L sprain uh and that could change the way

671
00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:18,080
Speaker 1: Kyle Shannon and attacks the Dolphins, and I think it

672
00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:22,080
Speaker 1: plays into Miami's benefit. So I I just want to

673
00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:26,280
Speaker 1: watch how the defenses approach each of these offenses, because

674
00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:29,320
Speaker 1: if you were any other coach, wouldn't you watch that

675
00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:32,600
Speaker 1: and try to mimic it as much as possible. No

676
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:37,000
Speaker 1: one knows Kyle Sanahan offense better than Mike McDaniel. He

677
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:39,880
Speaker 1: he was the guy that that Kyle Shannion did not

678
00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:41,640
Speaker 1: want to leave, that was there forever and in this

679
00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:45,200
Speaker 1: forty Niners team, lit the defensive personnel, the defensive coaching staff.

680
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:47,960
Speaker 1: Mike McDaniel was there for all of it. So don't

681
00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:50,520
Speaker 1: you want to see what he puts out there as

682
00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:53,560
Speaker 1: the best way he thinks to stop the Kyle Shanahan

683
00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:57,160
Speaker 1: offense and vice versa. I think you have to do

684
00:33:57,200 --> 00:34:00,320
Speaker 1: it with more man coverage than most teams have thrown

685
00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:04,520
Speaker 1: at um at the Dolphins this season. People try to

686
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:07,080
Speaker 1: play zone and back up and just not let the

687
00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:09,120
Speaker 1: big play be. It doesn't matter because they just will

688
00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:11,560
Speaker 1: kill you in chunks of seventeen to twenty. And both

689
00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:15,000
Speaker 1: of these teams are built to play man coverage. Miami's

690
00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:18,040
Speaker 1: a little thinner certainly in the secondary, but I think

691
00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:20,040
Speaker 1: you'll see a little bit more of that, and I

692
00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:23,600
Speaker 1: think you'll see to his ability to read the field

693
00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:27,200
Speaker 1: as quickly tested. He's becoming one of the best quarterbacks

694
00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:29,800
Speaker 1: in the league at getting to a second third progression

695
00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:32,960
Speaker 1: really quickly and getting the ball out, and like he's

696
00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:36,320
Speaker 1: really developed fast, faster than Jimmy Garoppolo did, for instance,

697
00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:39,120
Speaker 1: in this system. But what can San Francisco do to

698
00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:41,160
Speaker 1: maybe hold make him hold the ball a little longer

699
00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:43,320
Speaker 1: and just gummy gummy up his mental. I love what

700
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:45,960
Speaker 1: you said because it really is sort of Shanahan verse

701
00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:49,279
Speaker 1: Shanahan like man verse self, because it's almost like Mike

702
00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:52,880
Speaker 1: McDaniel was like his rib pulled out, like the old

703
00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:55,080
Speaker 1: Adam and Eve scenario, that he sort of is just

704
00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:58,200
Speaker 1: a little Shanahan in a way, a miniature Shanahan. And

705
00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:00,160
Speaker 1: we'll see what happens. And this Dan you've been waiting for,

706
00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:04,120
Speaker 1: like the to uh electric kool Aid acid tests. You've

707
00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:06,080
Speaker 1: been waiting for this moment, like this is the matchup

708
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:08,080
Speaker 1: you've been talking about for weeks where if two comes

709
00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:10,120
Speaker 1: out of this looking like he's had when he's gone

710
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:12,000
Speaker 1: eight no, when he's been a full time starter from

711
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:15,600
Speaker 1: start to finish the games, destroying teams like the Patriots,

712
00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:18,160
Speaker 1: like making Bill Belichick look like he cannot solve to

713
00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:19,960
Speaker 1: a no one else can. If you can do it

714
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:22,040
Speaker 1: to the Niners. Then the two one narrative I think

715
00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:24,960
Speaker 1: changes drastically for the people that are still doubting him. Yeah,

716
00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:27,440
Speaker 1: the ceiling has no roof if you light up the

717
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:32,080
Speaker 1: San Francisco forty Niners. To borrow a Jordanism, but I

718
00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:35,160
Speaker 1: guess it seems to me. Tell me if I'm wrong

719
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:38,000
Speaker 1: that I'm the only one that does have any doubts

720
00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:41,080
Speaker 1: at this point. Are you guys fully confident that Miami

721
00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:43,600
Speaker 1: is gonna light up whoever they play? Well? Certainly not

722
00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:46,640
Speaker 1: if they're missing both their starting offensive tackles. But I

723
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:49,080
Speaker 1: don't have much doubt that they are one of the

724
00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:51,520
Speaker 1: best three offenses in the league no matter who they're playing.

725
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:54,400
Speaker 1: And whether that's enough to carry them to win a

726
00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:56,520
Speaker 1: Super Bowl, I don't know. But I put them in

727
00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:59,000
Speaker 1: the same category as the Chiefs, and I would put

728
00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:01,400
Speaker 1: the two of those where I totally disagree, because like,

729
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:04,200
Speaker 1: what where do they get that type of love when

730
00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:07,480
Speaker 1: you blow out Houston, Cleveland, Chicago and Detroit? But they

731
00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:10,160
Speaker 1: were blowing them out because the sign of great offense.

732
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:14,239
Speaker 1: No one else is doing that though, and the and

733
00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:16,319
Speaker 1: I just look at the players, and I look how

734
00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:19,759
Speaker 1: comfortable to is. I don't disagree that there's a lot

735
00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:22,319
Speaker 1: of talent here and they put things together. But I

736
00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:25,080
Speaker 1: think this is desperately needed in the NFL to see

737
00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:28,640
Speaker 1: the Dolphins against anytime team there underdogs here. Who would you?

738
00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:31,399
Speaker 1: Who do you? I guess you would take the forty Niners? Yeah,

739
00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:35,279
Speaker 1: because I'm gonna uh well, shoot, I mean yeah, I

740
00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:37,839
Speaker 1: think the Niners just because I like them so much

741
00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:40,399
Speaker 1: on both sides of the ball at home here. If

742
00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:42,160
Speaker 1: it was in Miami, maybe I would see it more

743
00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:44,680
Speaker 1: as a field goal game the other way. But I

744
00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:46,840
Speaker 1: am open. My mind is open to the idea of

745
00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:49,840
Speaker 1: the Dolphins. Yeah, like just boat racing another team and

746
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:51,440
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden we're looking, is this the

747
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:53,719
Speaker 1: best team in football? Like that? That's what can come

748
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:55,360
Speaker 1: out of this game potention. I think you're right, but

749
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:57,560
Speaker 1: also I think we were Are they the Chiefs? Are

750
00:36:57,600 --> 00:37:00,240
Speaker 1: they the Bills? On offense? It's like the Bills and Chiefs.

751
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:03,839
Speaker 1: The Chiefs last week couldn't score touchdowns. They're they're not

752
00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:09,880
Speaker 1: success over years, but I mean, like not slump proof,

753
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:12,760
Speaker 1: but right now, like show me someone that can stop Miami.

754
00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:15,680
Speaker 1: And also, it's a first year scheme with a first

755
00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:18,200
Speaker 1: year coach. They haven't really gone they I know they

756
00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:21,160
Speaker 1: were quieter in some games, but like in another world,

757
00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:24,000
Speaker 1: you'd be giving them mulligans and excuses because all these

758
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:26,840
Speaker 1: players are coming together for the first time in this system. Instead,

759
00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:30,040
Speaker 1: they're electrifying teams. I like the Dolphins to win. I

760
00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:33,080
Speaker 1: certainly like them to cover four points. But the Armstead thing,

761
00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:35,880
Speaker 1: to me is is so big that that might, you know,

762
00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:37,600
Speaker 1: flip my pick at the end of the week. All right,

763
00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:41,359
Speaker 1: the number three overall pick is, Oh, we got a lock.

764
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:45,040
Speaker 1: Hang on a second, not so fast, Dan, what do

765
00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:49,640
Speaker 1: we got? Grave digger, gentlemen, I'm back after last week's hiatus.

766
00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:51,919
Speaker 1: I want to apologize to all my fans out there.

767
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:55,200
Speaker 1: I know you missed me last week. The brothers and

768
00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:58,400
Speaker 1: I had a nice plans to get together, put together

769
00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:02,040
Speaker 1: a nice holiday that message every one. I hope everyone

770
00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:05,040
Speaker 1: had a great Thanksgiving. Sorry, we couldn't do that message

771
00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:08,120
Speaker 1: for you. Unfortunately, the flu ran right through a couple

772
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:10,839
Speaker 1: of my brothers, the same way the Jets ran right

773
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:12,719
Speaker 1: through the Bears. There you go, Yeah, that's right. We

774
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:16,160
Speaker 1: locked that one up. Brings us back to six and six,

775
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:20,400
Speaker 1: three games back of Greg, who we know is gonna crumble.

776
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:23,400
Speaker 1: He's not real competition. He's a paper giant, just like

777
00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:26,480
Speaker 1: the New York Giants. They are garbage. That's not who

778
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:28,560
Speaker 1: we're going with through this week. Oh no, oh no,

779
00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:33,120
Speaker 1: we're going out west. Dolphins, go out west to take

780
00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:36,840
Speaker 1: on the forty Niners. I called the Dolphins imposters earlier

781
00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:39,000
Speaker 1: in the year, right before the Bengals whip, when we

782
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:41,440
Speaker 1: got that lock right, and we're getting this one right

783
00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:45,920
Speaker 1: the forty Niners roll lock it up. Well, I'm not

784
00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:49,439
Speaker 1: the only it is very gutsy lock. I respect Nick

785
00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:51,880
Speaker 1: for that, but I'm not the only one that's a

786
00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:54,640
Speaker 1: little wait and see mode here. No you're not. Let's

787
00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:57,000
Speaker 1: wait and see. There's Nick and there's Nick's ego, two

788
00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:59,359
Speaker 1: separate um in the individuals At this point, I think

789
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:02,799
Speaker 1: Nick's coming social media for the past week without just

790
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:12,720
Speaker 1: getting inundated with just where was Nick video, people felt

791
00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:14,640
Speaker 1: there was a void in their lives. Also, Nick, noting

792
00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:18,000
Speaker 1: our strong season that we've had so far in terms

793
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:21,960
Speaker 1: of listenership coincides with his being a more active part

794
00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:26,279
Speaker 1: of the show, does not believe that's a coincidence. I

795
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:28,319
Speaker 1: agree with Nick. I think that is it all right?

796
00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:30,120
Speaker 1: Let's take a break and then we'll continue on with

797
00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:37,000
Speaker 1: the draft. All right, here we go pick three, Juster

798
00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:42,439
Speaker 1: moves back to number three and a blockbuster deal, And yeah,

799
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:43,759
Speaker 1: you can do that. You can figure it out. You

800
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:46,399
Speaker 1: could deduce this that in a loaded week, I thought

801
00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:49,000
Speaker 1: I could move back and still get Jets at Vikings

802
00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:51,759
Speaker 1: and and pick up some assets down the line. And

803
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:55,200
Speaker 1: That's what I'm doing here. So Jets at Vikings a

804
00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:59,759
Speaker 1: great showdown here between a rising Jet team playing that's

805
00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:03,120
Speaker 1: going to enter Sunday with a ton a butt ton

806
00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:07,239
Speaker 1: of confidence after they make the QB switch, and then

807
00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:09,399
Speaker 1: Mike White goes off and has one of the best

808
00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:12,480
Speaker 1: quarterback games by a Jet in years. Now. Just like

809
00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:14,960
Speaker 1: I was saying with the Dolphins, you gotta kind of

810
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:17,799
Speaker 1: be aware of who the opponent was before you go

811
00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:19,719
Speaker 1: all in on the Jets offense now and say, oh,

812
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:22,560
Speaker 1: the Jets are fine. They they've they've bench Zack Wilson,

813
00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:25,480
Speaker 1: and now their offenses get I'm not there yet, And

814
00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:27,520
Speaker 1: any Jets fan that is there and is all the

815
00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:32,360
Speaker 1: way in now, you're just setting yourself up for potential disappointment,

816
00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:37,720
Speaker 1: because there is absolutely a reality where Mike White comes

817
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:39,880
Speaker 1: down to earth, and the Jets offense comes down to

818
00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:43,799
Speaker 1: earth in a tough environment on the road against the Vikings. Now,

819
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:48,000
Speaker 1: the environment is tough. The Vikings are what nine and two,

820
00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:51,359
Speaker 1: So that's a winning team. They've won every score one

821
00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:54,400
Speaker 1: UH one score game they've played this year, which is

822
00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:58,560
Speaker 1: screaming for regression check. But that's who they are this season.

823
00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:01,080
Speaker 1: But their defense is not very it um. I think

824
00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:04,840
Speaker 1: their thirtieth in UH yardage allowed in the league. I

825
00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:08,880
Speaker 1: think they are in general statistically depending on what you

826
00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:11,160
Speaker 1: look at UH for your numbers, they're kind of a

827
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:14,759
Speaker 1: bottom third defense. So it does set up well for

828
00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:17,480
Speaker 1: Mike White and the Jets to move the ball again.

829
00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:20,440
Speaker 1: And I think then you're getting into a situation where,

830
00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:22,680
Speaker 1: all right, if the Jets do score some points and

831
00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:26,720
Speaker 1: they're keeping those wide receivers involved, and maybe, uh um,

832
00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:29,560
Speaker 1: maybe they have a chance here if that defense can

833
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:31,799
Speaker 1: lock up Kirk Cousins. And I'll throw to you on

834
00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:36,560
Speaker 1: this one, Mark, because Cousins had a nice game on Thanksgiving. Um,

835
00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:38,560
Speaker 1: but you've been talking about this. He hasn't had a

836
00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:42,080
Speaker 1: great season overall. And against the Jet defense with Sauce

837
00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:44,920
Speaker 1: Gardner and d J Reid, he i could see him

838
00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:47,520
Speaker 1: potentially having some issues here with the New York defense

839
00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:49,440
Speaker 1: playing with a lot of confidence, feeling like they're the

840
00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:52,240
Speaker 1: underdog going on the road here. Yeah. I mean, Sauce

841
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:56,520
Speaker 1: Gardner is Rookie of the Year material and a runaway

842
00:41:57,520 --> 00:42:01,680
Speaker 1: l like sort of number one. According to Pro Football

843
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:06,680
Speaker 1: Focus and coverage numbers, he's allowed fifty seven receiving yards

844
00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:09,000
Speaker 1: in man coverage. So for me, the Vikings are kind

845
00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:12,160
Speaker 1: of not a one trick pony because they're talented on offense.

846
00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:16,560
Speaker 1: There's names there, but if you can remove or get

847
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:20,200
Speaker 1: Justin Jefferson to two thirds of his production or half

848
00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:22,759
Speaker 1: his production, I think you beat the Vikings and and

849
00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:26,000
Speaker 1: and like to flip it to Mike White real quick.

850
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:28,000
Speaker 1: I mean one thing that I don't think will go away.

851
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:30,040
Speaker 1: And I think people are like pointing to the Bill's

852
00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:32,560
Speaker 1: collapse you had last year, was like he played really well,

853
00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:35,560
Speaker 1: but then he's the variable as you go into gets

854
00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:38,000
Speaker 1: a better defense and you utterly collapse. I don't think

855
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:39,719
Speaker 1: that's gonna happen to Mike White in general. I just

856
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:43,000
Speaker 1: see a quarterback who functions really well and what should

857
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:45,400
Speaker 1: be a really quarterback friendly offense. I mean, he's he's

858
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:47,279
Speaker 1: gonna do last week over and over. You played the

859
00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:49,799
Speaker 1: the Bears. That's a disastrous defense, So it's gonna be

860
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:52,560
Speaker 1: up and down. But it's so much more productive than

861
00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:56,880
Speaker 1: Zack Wilson. He seems so much more aware, engaged, understanding

862
00:42:56,920 --> 00:42:59,320
Speaker 1: what he's supposed to do, and the offense just seems

863
00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:02,160
Speaker 1: to me so much more adequate through the air. And

864
00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:03,680
Speaker 1: that's all they need to be with him, because this

865
00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:07,560
Speaker 1: defense is truly special. And we're looking at the Vikings

866
00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:11,040
Speaker 1: defense flip side that made mac Jones look more than

867
00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:13,600
Speaker 1: productive on Thanksgiving. It was mac Jones's best day by

868
00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:16,440
Speaker 1: far this season. Mac Jones has been struggling all years,

869
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:18,480
Speaker 1: so I think it's a good situation for Mike White

870
00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:20,680
Speaker 1: to continue to some degree. And I think if you

871
00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:23,839
Speaker 1: can take out Justin Jefferson by by Vikings, Yeah, you

872
00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:26,200
Speaker 1: look at the rest of the schedule and I don't

873
00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:28,759
Speaker 1: think there is some big reckoning for Mike White. I

874
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:32,640
Speaker 1: guess the Bills game that they've mostly been good defensively,

875
00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:35,600
Speaker 1: but other than that, the schedule is very favorable. And

876
00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:40,080
Speaker 1: I don't necessarily assume he's just a game manager that's

877
00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:43,319
Speaker 1: gonna be a lower third quarterback. He made some really

878
00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:45,440
Speaker 1: good throws last week. That has nothing to do with

879
00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:48,400
Speaker 1: the opponent. People always just throw out a game because

880
00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:51,640
Speaker 1: of the opponent. He made a couple of big time throws,

881
00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:54,400
Speaker 1: one on the move, some with some heat. He got

882
00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:56,400
Speaker 1: rid of the ball quickly. That maybe has to do

883
00:43:56,400 --> 00:43:58,640
Speaker 1: with the opponent because your receivers are open so quickly,

884
00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:00,560
Speaker 1: but it's decision making. He rid of the ball on

885
00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:03,200
Speaker 1: two point three eight seconds on average time to throw.

886
00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:06,600
Speaker 1: That's faster than any game of Zack Wilson's career. And

887
00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:08,840
Speaker 1: still sets of games where it was over three seconds,

888
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:11,120
Speaker 1: and and and Zach goes and had that one game

889
00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:13,640
Speaker 1: against the Bills where he kind of followed the instructions

890
00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:15,160
Speaker 1: and got rid of the ball as fast as he could.

891
00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:17,240
Speaker 1: That was close to that. But I think Mike White's

892
00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:20,280
Speaker 1: gonna do it in the regular scheme of the offense

893
00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:22,680
Speaker 1: where he's still getting to a second and third reads.

894
00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:25,360
Speaker 1: And this Vikings defense is soft. I mean it just is.

895
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:28,600
Speaker 1: They play soft coverage, They are desperately trying to prevent

896
00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:31,200
Speaker 1: the big pass, and that they still end up giving

897
00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:34,480
Speaker 1: it up. There's there's very little that they excel at.

898
00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:37,960
Speaker 1: I think they've really missed Dalvin Toominson when when he's

899
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:40,319
Speaker 1: been out of the lineup over the last handful of weeks,

900
00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:43,560
Speaker 1: they're just they're not very tough. I think that's a mismatch.

901
00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:45,759
Speaker 1: So that, yes, And what's just everything you're saying makes

902
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:49,800
Speaker 1: sense about White here the pessimists. That's it's been beaten

903
00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:52,320
Speaker 1: into me over the years is because we did see

904
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:55,239
Speaker 1: two years ago or one year ago Mike White have

905
00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:57,919
Speaker 1: the big game, everybody get excited. Then the next game

906
00:44:57,920 --> 00:44:59,840
Speaker 1: he gets hurt immediately, then the game after that he

907
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:03,480
Speaker 1: bombs against a playoff Bills team. So you just I

908
00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:05,959
Speaker 1: think it's part of me is like, oh, don't don't

909
00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:08,879
Speaker 1: get sucked in. But so many things about this game

910
00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:11,480
Speaker 1: I really do think set up well for the Jets.

911
00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:14,479
Speaker 1: I feel like they're gonna win the game kiss of Death,

912
00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:17,440
Speaker 1: I think there and if they do, it really changes

913
00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:20,520
Speaker 1: the complexion of the season for them and changes how

914
00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:22,560
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people will view the Jets

915
00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:25,640
Speaker 1: the vikings. On the flip side, if you you get

916
00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:27,719
Speaker 1: the page, you beat the Patriots on Thanksgiving Night, but

917
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:29,560
Speaker 1: if you sandwich that with losses to the Jets and

918
00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:32,480
Speaker 1: a blowout loss of the Cowboys, they really come down

919
00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:34,280
Speaker 1: to earth in terms of they're in a weird spot

920
00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:36,960
Speaker 1: playoff picture wise, because they're going to win this division.

921
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:39,120
Speaker 1: They could win it as soon as this week. I

922
00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:42,600
Speaker 1: they they're in theory competing for the one seed, and

923
00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:44,520
Speaker 1: I'm sure they want that, but I just don't see

924
00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:46,080
Speaker 1: them as that sort of team. So they're gonna end

925
00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:48,719
Speaker 1: up somewhere between. And I think one thing that we

926
00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:50,480
Speaker 1: could have said about the Dolphins, and we can say

927
00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:51,759
Speaker 1: it about the Jets, and we can say it about

928
00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:54,440
Speaker 1: the Vikings. This is the first time that these coaching

929
00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:56,920
Speaker 1: staffs have ever been in these big January games Mike

930
00:45:57,000 --> 00:46:00,440
Speaker 1: McDaniels talking about, and the Vikings players have been in

931
00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:03,239
Speaker 1: them more often. Certainly they have some veterans on this

932
00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:06,080
Speaker 1: team that have been in big moments, but it's it

933
00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:08,560
Speaker 1: is a new experience for a team as a whole.

934
00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:11,759
Speaker 1: And you don't totally know how the Jets and the

935
00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:13,719
Speaker 1: and I would throw the Vikings and their coaching staff

936
00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:16,720
Speaker 1: and their team, how they're gonna respond when they actually

937
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:20,440
Speaker 1: get to the important part of how you like that?

938
00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:25,120
Speaker 1: I think it is show me something teams we're going

939
00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:28,160
Speaker 1: to go through here. CHRISTI waited on a on a title,

940
00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:30,279
Speaker 1: and we came up with one. We didn't rush it. No.

941
00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:35,040
Speaker 1: Christian Dery saw in this game. He's coming off another concussion,

942
00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:38,080
Speaker 1: so he's not expected to return, and you know he's

943
00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:40,399
Speaker 1: their key left tackle for the Vikings, and that just

944
00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:43,479
Speaker 1: really sets up because the rest of the Vikings offensive line,

945
00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:45,640
Speaker 1: they're good at right tackle, but now you've got a

946
00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:47,840
Speaker 1: problem at left tackle. They're not really good in the middle,

947
00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:50,000
Speaker 1: where the Jets are are great, and so that's that's

948
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:53,160
Speaker 1: a lot of mismatches. Jets have quietly been bad um

949
00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:55,799
Speaker 1: at running back since Brees Hall's knee injury, and they

950
00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:59,160
Speaker 1: address that, or attempted to address it against Chicago with

951
00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:04,080
Speaker 1: successful else They made James Robinson a healthy scratch and

952
00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:08,560
Speaker 1: then activated Bam White Zanovan Knight, who immediately had a

953
00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:11,520
Speaker 1: one hundred yard game. Ty Johnson had a rushing touchdown.

954
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:14,680
Speaker 1: They need to have that balance um and have a

955
00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:16,960
Speaker 1: running game that works. That makes such a big difference.

956
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:19,960
Speaker 1: And one issue with the Jets defense lately has been tackling.

957
00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:23,359
Speaker 1: They've been having issues with miss tackles and Dalvelin Cook

958
00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:26,759
Speaker 1: obviously could be a major problem if they don't wrap up.

959
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:29,000
Speaker 1: But I feel good about it. I feel I think

960
00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:33,120
Speaker 1: you should feel good. I feel thirty four. Is he

961
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:36,759
Speaker 1: gonna do it? I'm not. I will be locking up

962
00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:39,400
Speaker 1: the Jets at some point this season. Uh, it won't

963
00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:41,879
Speaker 1: be this week. I'm not quite there than I think

964
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:43,480
Speaker 1: you should. I think it would really tell Greg and

965
00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:46,359
Speaker 1: I something about your Do you want that? You want

966
00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:49,080
Speaker 1: that to risk me going into a Sunday night show

967
00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:52,120
Speaker 1: off a bad Jets loss where it also you're gonna

968
00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:55,479
Speaker 1: be So what's the difference? I picked them. I really

969
00:47:55,520 --> 00:47:58,239
Speaker 1: like them. Plus what are they? Three in three in

970
00:47:58,239 --> 00:48:01,839
Speaker 1: this game? Three and a half? Sadness Sunday this week?

971
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:04,040
Speaker 1: But I took them straight up on game picks. I mean,

972
00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:10,359
Speaker 1: you know what, Kings, I think they're better Vikings. Fans

973
00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:12,440
Speaker 1: are hating us right now. I know they are, but

974
00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:15,560
Speaker 1: they have to acknowledge that there if you study what

975
00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:18,359
Speaker 1: they've done, if you pop the hood, that there are

976
00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:22,000
Speaker 1: reasons to question this team they are. This would be

977
00:48:22,040 --> 00:48:24,320
Speaker 1: in their chops for a blowout win over the Jets

978
00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:26,799
Speaker 1: in a playoff, that would be that would be a

979
00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:30,400
Speaker 1: very important game for them. That's to show me. Sunday

980
00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:34,960
Speaker 1: game Okay, you know what, Mark, you're up with the

981
00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:37,120
Speaker 1: fourth pick? I mean, I can't believe I'm getting this

982
00:48:37,160 --> 00:48:38,759
Speaker 1: with the fourth pick. This is this is why they're

983
00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:41,560
Speaker 1: worked out for me. I'm getting Titans at Eagles. I

984
00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:45,719
Speaker 1: misunderstood the whole trade. Yeah, I mean, you know it's

985
00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:49,279
Speaker 1: like the next day it's read your USA Today and

986
00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:51,640
Speaker 1: they tell you already, like one day after the draft,

987
00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:55,719
Speaker 1: who won the strategy emory. I should have taken this

988
00:48:55,760 --> 00:49:02,239
Speaker 1: game today. It got how this works. I mean, this

989
00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:04,400
Speaker 1: is the A. J. Brown revenge game. I think this

990
00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:09,879
Speaker 1: is sort of a revenge game on the criticism. That's

991
00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:13,080
Speaker 1: gonna be the entire day. That will be the entire

992
00:49:13,160 --> 00:49:19,320
Speaker 1: day USA Today. You know, Rudy mart Ski is I

993
00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:21,520
Speaker 1: the reason I think Tennessee has a chance here. And

994
00:49:21,640 --> 00:49:25,120
Speaker 1: I didn't like seeing like Tannehill hobbling around last week.

995
00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:27,840
Speaker 1: I just don't think he's healthy. He's one of the

996
00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:30,440
Speaker 1: toughest quarterbacks in the league. I mean, he's so willing

997
00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:32,759
Speaker 1: to fire the ball down field when he's taking a

998
00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:35,120
Speaker 1: total shot right in his face mask and not to

999
00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:38,480
Speaker 1: the ground. Derrick Henry, though you can run on the Eagles,

1000
00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:40,279
Speaker 1: it's the one thing you can do. They still don't

1001
00:49:40,280 --> 00:49:43,399
Speaker 1: have Jordan Davis. The Lynnville Joseph the Dominican su thing.

1002
00:49:43,600 --> 00:49:46,040
Speaker 1: I think it's helped them, but it's not completely solved

1003
00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:48,319
Speaker 1: the fact that the Eagles can be run on. And

1004
00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:51,719
Speaker 1: I think that's just this Titan's offense is really relatively

1005
00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:54,920
Speaker 1: so basic that it really comes down to what you

1006
00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:56,880
Speaker 1: get out of Derrick Henry in this game. And he

1007
00:49:56,920 --> 00:50:00,560
Speaker 1: has been in December and January and unstopped doable force

1008
00:50:00,640 --> 00:50:03,120
Speaker 1: for years in a row. And the Eagles right now.

1009
00:50:03,160 --> 00:50:06,080
Speaker 1: To me, that's your vulnerability, and can you stop the

1010
00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:08,880
Speaker 1: Eagles and reverse? I trust the Titans. I mean, they

1011
00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:11,319
Speaker 1: were out physical by the Bengals last week. We talked

1012
00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:13,080
Speaker 1: about that. I don't They've got to hate how that

1013
00:50:13,160 --> 00:50:15,600
Speaker 1: game went down, but they have found a way. They

1014
00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:18,359
Speaker 1: are a matchup defense. We've seen this week after week

1015
00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:21,080
Speaker 1: and I cannot wait to see what Mike Rabel does

1016
00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:24,440
Speaker 1: against a J. Brown, but against this all very versatile

1017
00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:27,359
Speaker 1: Eagles offense at last week put it on Green Bay.

1018
00:50:27,360 --> 00:50:30,400
Speaker 1: How exhausted and winded was that Packers defense by the

1019
00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:33,000
Speaker 1: end of that game, they were physically and spiritually broken

1020
00:50:33,120 --> 00:50:34,600
Speaker 1: by what the Eagles did on the ground. So I

1021
00:50:34,640 --> 00:50:37,359
Speaker 1: love this matchup. I am with you. I wonder if

1022
00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:39,360
Speaker 1: that the Titans are a little humbled by that game,

1023
00:50:39,840 --> 00:50:42,360
Speaker 1: where they're they're not expecting the Bengals to come in

1024
00:50:42,360 --> 00:50:44,560
Speaker 1: and push them around a little and and stuff them

1025
00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:47,440
Speaker 1: on the ground. I'm with you that the Titans defense

1026
00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:51,239
Speaker 1: is gonna throw something different at Jalen Herds and I

1027
00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:55,160
Speaker 1: think at least minimize their running attack and somehow force

1028
00:50:55,680 --> 00:50:59,600
Speaker 1: Philadelphia to to win throwing the ball and from the pocket.

1029
00:50:59,719 --> 00:51:02,400
Speaker 1: But good luck. It's like Hurts has been very aggressive,

1030
00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:07,200
Speaker 1: and I've seen some you know, numbers and some tape

1031
00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:10,240
Speaker 1: watchers pointing out that like, yeah, Hurts isn't a top

1032
00:51:10,360 --> 00:51:13,400
Speaker 1: five quarterback throwing the ball this year, but he's like

1033
00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:16,719
Speaker 1: top ten to twelve, along with being one of the

1034
00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:19,800
Speaker 1: most efficient runners in the league and a great decision

1035
00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:23,080
Speaker 1: maker about when to run and when not to. Like

1036
00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:25,600
Speaker 1: to I think he's very good with the ball handling,

1037
00:51:25,640 --> 00:51:29,040
Speaker 1: but obviously, unlike to A, he brings that added element

1038
00:51:29,080 --> 00:51:32,040
Speaker 1: as a physical runner, and the Packers were almost begging

1039
00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:34,799
Speaker 1: him to run. I think the Titans will prevent that

1040
00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:37,400
Speaker 1: from happening and make him win throwing it to a J.

1041
00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:40,080
Speaker 1: Brown and DeVonta Smith. Without god Her, I don't think

1042
00:51:40,080 --> 00:51:43,600
Speaker 1: they're quite as dynamic, a passing team, and this game

1043
00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:45,239
Speaker 1: to your point where I think it could be a

1044
00:51:45,239 --> 00:51:48,840
Speaker 1: little more defensive on both sides really than than the

1045
00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:51,840
Speaker 1: last few Eagles. I feel like people that are picking

1046
00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:56,480
Speaker 1: on Hurts as not a complete passer because he's such

1047
00:51:56,520 --> 00:51:59,920
Speaker 1: a good threat on the ground are not watching Jalen

1048
00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:04,160
Speaker 1: Hurts his games right. I think he's he's absolutely grown

1049
00:52:04,200 --> 00:52:06,160
Speaker 1: as a pastor, and he's more than adequate, and he's

1050
00:52:06,160 --> 00:52:10,279
Speaker 1: had games where his accuracy has been incredible. We are

1051
00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:14,239
Speaker 1: one thing that's not getting a lot of attention is

1052
00:52:14,719 --> 00:52:17,200
Speaker 1: bringing grave digger on this one. Derrick Henry is in

1053
00:52:17,200 --> 00:52:20,680
Speaker 1: a little bit of a slump Russian the football. His

1054
00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:23,400
Speaker 1: last three games, He's averaged two point eight, three point

1055
00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:27,040
Speaker 1: one and two point two yards per attempt. I know

1056
00:52:27,160 --> 00:52:29,440
Speaker 1: he has done some damage through the air and the

1057
00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:32,640
Speaker 1: receiving game. Uh great, would he put anything into that?

1058
00:52:32,760 --> 00:52:35,440
Speaker 1: Is it? Is it matchup based? Is it just one

1059
00:52:35,480 --> 00:52:37,520
Speaker 1: of those things in a long season, or is there

1060
00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:39,520
Speaker 1: something we need to know a little bit of all

1061
00:52:39,560 --> 00:52:42,240
Speaker 1: of that. Um Ben Jones has missed the last two games,

1062
00:52:42,239 --> 00:52:45,280
Speaker 1: the starting center and the titans clear best offensive lineman.

1063
00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:47,440
Speaker 1: He's back at practice now, so it looks like he's

1064
00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:50,239
Speaker 1: gonna play in this game. And also, teams have been

1065
00:52:50,440 --> 00:52:52,959
Speaker 1: defending the Titans a little bit differently over the past

1066
00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:55,480
Speaker 1: few weeks. They've been breaking out these five one and

1067
00:52:55,640 --> 00:52:59,880
Speaker 1: six one defensive fronts that basically fill all the gaps.

1068
00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:03,279
Speaker 1: The Titans love the outside zone running scheme, where you

1069
00:53:03,320 --> 00:53:06,239
Speaker 1: have the option to go outside, cut up inside, or

1070
00:53:06,239 --> 00:53:08,920
Speaker 1: cut it back um to the backside, and with the

1071
00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:11,839
Speaker 1: six one defensive line fronts, it's like plugging up all

1072
00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:15,080
Speaker 1: the gaps and not allowing the Titans lineman to climb

1073
00:53:15,120 --> 00:53:17,960
Speaker 1: to the second level. So Tennessee's gotta figure something out.

1074
00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:19,800
Speaker 1: They either got to run a little bit more power,

1075
00:53:19,840 --> 00:53:22,560
Speaker 1: they gotta execute these blocks that are tough to execute.

1076
00:53:22,840 --> 00:53:25,120
Speaker 1: But I mean, they're obviously aware that teams are going

1077
00:53:25,160 --> 00:53:27,040
Speaker 1: to start playing them this way, and we'll see if

1078
00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:29,160
Speaker 1: find a way to open up the passing game in

1079
00:53:29,160 --> 00:53:33,040
Speaker 1: a way that the causes defenses have to Trailon Burke's

1080
00:53:33,080 --> 00:53:35,439
Speaker 1: the last couple of weeks and Tannehill talked about how

1081
00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:38,160
Speaker 1: his preparation has been such a big difference maker when

1082
00:53:38,280 --> 00:53:40,120
Speaker 1: on the off season was like does this guy plugged

1083
00:53:40,120 --> 00:53:42,600
Speaker 1: in or not. He's been growing the NFL films you

1084
00:53:42,600 --> 00:53:45,040
Speaker 1: know they released those like miked up segments from every

1085
00:53:45,040 --> 00:53:47,440
Speaker 1: game every week, and they had a moment between Rabel

1086
00:53:47,480 --> 00:53:51,000
Speaker 1: and Traylon Burke's after Burke's recovered the fumble, where Burkes

1087
00:53:51,040 --> 00:53:53,440
Speaker 1: was like, I'm sorry, coach, that was my man that

1088
00:53:53,560 --> 00:53:55,600
Speaker 1: I missed my block. He's the one that punched the

1089
00:53:55,600 --> 00:53:57,799
Speaker 1: ball out of Derrick Henry's hands, and Rabels like, but

1090
00:53:57,880 --> 00:53:59,880
Speaker 1: what do you do after that? You ran down, you hustled,

1091
00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:02,160
Speaker 1: dove on the ball, and he scored his first NFL

1092
00:54:02,200 --> 00:54:05,120
Speaker 1: touchdown recovering a fumble in the end zone. UM, I

1093
00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:08,960
Speaker 1: am not necessarily confident, but I am going to lock

1094
00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:13,120
Speaker 1: up the Titans, and that is cuts. This is called value.

1095
00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:16,200
Speaker 1: See every other lockable game on this lad and Kelly

1096
00:54:16,239 --> 00:54:20,399
Speaker 1: with a double thumbs down behind it. Every other game

1097
00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:22,799
Speaker 1: on this slate would be worth one potential lock win

1098
00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:25,040
Speaker 1: for me, but this one is worth one and a half.

1099
00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:30,040
Speaker 1: So he gets his half back from that shape by

1100
00:54:30,120 --> 00:54:33,960
Speaker 1: any sort of This was a just because you guys

1101
00:54:33,960 --> 00:54:36,880
Speaker 1: have some food, gazzy bond does not mean that Greg

1102
00:54:36,920 --> 00:54:39,719
Speaker 1: carries any extra weight. It's been it's I think he's

1103
00:54:39,719 --> 00:54:41,960
Speaker 1: trying to make up for the shame of that lock

1104
00:54:42,040 --> 00:54:45,359
Speaker 1: and I think that's a smart move. You don't get

1105
00:54:45,360 --> 00:54:48,359
Speaker 1: any extra credit, but you you earn our respect by

1106
00:54:48,480 --> 00:54:50,440
Speaker 1: getting behind your team. I didn't have the guts to

1107
00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:53,320
Speaker 1: do it. You did, and I as a decent size underdog,

1108
00:54:53,400 --> 00:54:55,040
Speaker 1: which doesn't make sense to me. I think this is

1109
00:54:55,239 --> 00:54:58,120
Speaker 1: a coin flip game. I think that's too many, too

1110
00:54:58,120 --> 00:55:01,440
Speaker 1: many points, five and a half points. I think one

1111
00:55:01,440 --> 00:55:04,359
Speaker 1: of their problems, though, grave digger, dealing with that those

1112
00:55:04,360 --> 00:55:08,520
Speaker 1: heavy fronts, is that Ryan Tannehill isn't as mobile coming

1113
00:55:08,560 --> 00:55:10,480
Speaker 1: off of the ankle injury. I thought he actually looked

1114
00:55:10,480 --> 00:55:12,640
Speaker 1: good when he did move last week, but they haven't

1115
00:55:12,680 --> 00:55:15,160
Speaker 1: had him rolling out as much. His legs are one

1116
00:55:15,200 --> 00:55:17,600
Speaker 1: of the reasons why they're one of the great red

1117
00:55:17,680 --> 00:55:20,000
Speaker 1: zone teams of all time over the last three years

1118
00:55:20,040 --> 00:55:22,160
Speaker 1: with Tannehill. That's where he likes to run. So I

1119
00:55:22,160 --> 00:55:24,640
Speaker 1: think you need to work that struggle. They've struggled in

1120
00:55:24,640 --> 00:55:26,520
Speaker 1: the red zone. They were over three against the Bengals.

1121
00:55:26,560 --> 00:55:28,480
Speaker 1: I mean, you convert one of those three trips into

1122
00:55:28,480 --> 00:55:30,640
Speaker 1: a touchdown, it's a totally different They need they need

1123
00:55:30,719 --> 00:55:33,080
Speaker 1: him to run. I do think they gotta feel good.

1124
00:55:33,080 --> 00:55:36,040
Speaker 1: They finally have the cornerback group that they've wanted all

1125
00:55:36,080 --> 00:55:39,440
Speaker 1: season healthy and rolling a little bit the tighten. So

1126
00:55:39,480 --> 00:55:41,959
Speaker 1: they have Fault and they have Mercury, they have Elijah Molden.

1127
00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:45,240
Speaker 1: That's a good young group. You have a good safety combo.

1128
00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:48,080
Speaker 1: I think they'll feel pretty confident that they can win

1129
00:55:48,160 --> 00:55:50,279
Speaker 1: some of those one on one matchups. And and and

1130
00:55:50,440 --> 00:55:52,839
Speaker 1: dare the Eagles. Let's be real though, if you if

1131
00:55:52,880 --> 00:55:55,320
Speaker 1: you've fallen back to back weeks to the Bengals and

1132
00:55:55,239 --> 00:55:59,359
Speaker 1: and Eagles, you're a lower tier operation. You're a middle

1133
00:55:59,560 --> 00:56:02,319
Speaker 1: I don't think so. You're seven and five. No, I

1134
00:56:02,320 --> 00:56:05,200
Speaker 1: think you need to win one of these games. You know.

1135
00:56:04,920 --> 00:56:07,839
Speaker 1: I like your choice here because I feel like, if

1136
00:56:07,840 --> 00:56:10,160
Speaker 1: we've learned anything from Tennessee over the last couple of years,

1137
00:56:10,400 --> 00:56:12,520
Speaker 1: this feels like a game they go and get after

1138
00:56:12,560 --> 00:56:15,040
Speaker 1: they couldn't get the Cincinnati game. And in general, I'm

1139
00:56:15,040 --> 00:56:17,600
Speaker 1: just looking ahead. The A C playoffs are gonna be

1140
00:56:18,040 --> 00:56:21,120
Speaker 1: banging wild this year. I mean, every team maybe even

1141
00:56:21,200 --> 00:56:24,520
Speaker 1: better than this week's games. Let's not go crazy and

1142
00:56:24,800 --> 00:56:27,600
Speaker 1: tune in on Sunday to the podcast to get the

1143
00:56:27,640 --> 00:56:31,120
Speaker 1: full rundown. But all of these teams are really fun

1144
00:56:31,160 --> 00:56:32,680
Speaker 1: to watch. I don't think we're gonna have any like

1145
00:56:32,719 --> 00:56:35,160
Speaker 1: the NFC lookout because you're gonna have like snooze fest,

1146
00:56:35,360 --> 00:56:38,359
Speaker 1: some snore NFC South team in there, and it's gonna

1147
00:56:38,360 --> 00:56:41,000
Speaker 1: be you know. But in the a f C in

1148
00:56:41,000 --> 00:56:43,120
Speaker 1: the yang of the NFL season, Dan, by the way,

1149
00:56:43,120 --> 00:56:50,800
Speaker 1: it's de Henberg. Derrick Henry's numbers in December are outlandish

1150
00:56:50,840 --> 00:56:56,000
Speaker 1: compared to his numbers. And and why yeah we mentioned Titans.

1151
00:56:56,000 --> 00:56:57,960
Speaker 1: Fans call it de Henberg and we need to make

1152
00:56:57,960 --> 00:57:00,320
Speaker 1: it a national things. Why are you guys so bad

1153
00:56:59,840 --> 00:57:04,960
Speaker 1: and terrible branding, terrible branding whatever, just wanted it to

1154
00:57:05,000 --> 00:57:09,120
Speaker 1: be on the podcast. You have the social clip from

1155
00:57:09,120 --> 00:57:11,719
Speaker 1: the from the show to the social clip. Case that

1156
00:57:11,760 --> 00:57:14,040
Speaker 1: will be this will be from my personal account. But yes,

1157
00:57:14,120 --> 00:57:17,640
Speaker 1: I will remember the tragedy that was the Tennessee tickle Monster.

1158
00:57:17,720 --> 00:57:19,640
Speaker 1: It was more than a tragedy. I think it rages

1159
00:57:19,680 --> 00:57:23,240
Speaker 1: on still. I think it career, quite honest. And now

1160
00:57:23,240 --> 00:57:30,360
Speaker 1: we had heard his career. All right, let's move on. Greggy.

1161
00:57:30,760 --> 00:57:35,160
Speaker 1: I'm I'm struggling here. I messed this up. I'm getting

1162
00:57:35,200 --> 00:57:39,000
Speaker 1: a D minus on the draft Lenn Pascarelli's writing articles

1163
00:57:39,320 --> 00:57:40,960
Speaker 1: I didn't get I didn't get the card in on

1164
00:57:41,120 --> 00:57:45,240
Speaker 1: time because I should have taken Titans Eagles, and you

1165
00:57:45,240 --> 00:57:47,160
Speaker 1: wouldn't have taken the late game, and I would have

1166
00:57:47,200 --> 00:57:49,160
Speaker 1: had both of the great games. But I'm taking Giants

1167
00:57:49,200 --> 00:57:53,240
Speaker 1: Commanders here. That's the other game between winning teams in

1168
00:57:53,240 --> 00:57:56,800
Speaker 1: the morning. It's in the morning. It's not good at all.

1169
00:57:57,080 --> 00:57:58,680
Speaker 1: You know what, when they didn't get that card in

1170
00:57:59,760 --> 00:58:02,040
Speaker 1: the vikings and they messed it up, you know who

1171
00:58:02,040 --> 00:58:04,880
Speaker 1: they got, Kevin Williams, I think who might have his

1172
00:58:04,960 --> 00:58:08,320
Speaker 1: number retired in Minnesota. So that's what this game is

1173
00:58:08,320 --> 00:58:10,840
Speaker 1: gonna be. We know it's coming down to the final

1174
00:58:11,600 --> 00:58:15,280
Speaker 1: uh a few minutes, because every Commander's game does that

1175
00:58:15,480 --> 00:58:18,360
Speaker 1: used to be what happened in every Giants game until

1176
00:58:18,400 --> 00:58:20,720
Speaker 1: they started uh playing the team of a t l

1177
00:58:20,800 --> 00:58:23,320
Speaker 1: and in a rolling Cowboys team. But I think it

1178
00:58:23,360 --> 00:58:26,320
Speaker 1: will come down to the end. It's a monster game

1179
00:58:26,640 --> 00:58:30,960
Speaker 1: for the Giants because they're getting healthier here. They're at home,

1180
00:58:31,560 --> 00:58:34,520
Speaker 1: and I think everyone in New York in the media

1181
00:58:34,760 --> 00:58:37,240
Speaker 1: has been panicking, being like suddenly they might not make

1182
00:58:37,280 --> 00:58:39,720
Speaker 1: the playoffs and things are falling aparts, Like, calm down.

1183
00:58:39,720 --> 00:58:42,520
Speaker 1: They lost to to to fall to seven and four.

1184
00:58:42,880 --> 00:58:46,479
Speaker 1: You lose to the Commanders at home, then I think

1185
00:58:46,560 --> 00:58:49,840
Speaker 1: you've got some real problems. The Commanders are a better

1186
00:58:50,000 --> 00:58:53,240
Speaker 1: overall team though their run defense and their front line

1187
00:58:53,240 --> 00:58:55,360
Speaker 1: on defense is the best unit in this game. They

1188
00:58:55,360 --> 00:59:01,480
Speaker 1: have more talent offensively than the Giants. So if our guy,

1189
00:59:01,520 --> 00:59:03,800
Speaker 1: Brian Dable wants to win Coach of the Year, people

1190
00:59:03,840 --> 00:59:05,880
Speaker 1: like to give out these awards so early, he's got

1191
00:59:06,000 --> 00:59:08,640
Speaker 1: to win a game like this where, look, you don't

1192
00:59:08,680 --> 00:59:11,240
Speaker 1: have to win twelve games, but you gotta at least

1193
00:59:11,240 --> 00:59:14,040
Speaker 1: beat the Commanders at home stop the bleeding. If they

1194
00:59:14,080 --> 00:59:17,280
Speaker 1: lose this game, I think it becomes very realistic that

1195
00:59:17,320 --> 00:59:19,280
Speaker 1: the Giants fall right out of the I don't like

1196
00:59:19,360 --> 00:59:22,080
Speaker 1: to match up for New York. A sa Juon Barkley

1197
00:59:22,120 --> 00:59:24,200
Speaker 1: has not been sa Kuon Barkley for two weeks in

1198
00:59:24,200 --> 00:59:26,520
Speaker 1: a row. And you look through the course of this season,

1199
00:59:26,840 --> 00:59:29,960
Speaker 1: the one thing that Washington has done consistently is shut

1200
00:59:30,000 --> 00:59:33,000
Speaker 1: down the run. And they allowed seventy two yards to

1201
00:59:33,040 --> 00:59:35,360
Speaker 1: the Eagles in Week three. They played Philly again on

1202
00:59:35,400 --> 00:59:39,000
Speaker 1: that Monday night game, that incredible victory, just ninety four yards.

1203
00:59:39,120 --> 00:59:41,160
Speaker 1: They've done it to the Vikings, they did it to

1204
00:59:41,280 --> 00:59:43,920
Speaker 1: the Packers. They've done it to the Cowboys as well,

1205
00:59:44,080 --> 00:59:48,760
Speaker 1: and last week they did it to the Falcons get

1206
00:59:48,760 --> 00:59:51,000
Speaker 1: the numbers, so the Falcons were better. But that said,

1207
00:59:51,080 --> 00:59:52,920
Speaker 1: this is their strength. I mean, I think if you

1208
00:59:52,960 --> 00:59:55,480
Speaker 1: can take away not only sake kuon Barkley, but you

1209
00:59:55,520 --> 00:59:58,920
Speaker 1: remove the threat of Daniel Jones on the ground, what

1210
00:59:59,000 --> 01:00:01,120
Speaker 1: do the Giants have? Because I know last week when

1211
01:00:01,120 --> 01:00:03,560
Speaker 1: the Cowboys started to turn on the Jets against New

1212
01:00:03,600 --> 01:00:05,520
Speaker 1: York and you put Daniel Jones in a situation where

1213
01:00:05,520 --> 01:00:07,439
Speaker 1: you need to make a couple of throws, it didn't happen.

1214
01:00:07,680 --> 01:00:10,000
Speaker 1: So you don't the Giants. Now it sounds I'm just

1215
01:00:10,040 --> 01:00:13,160
Speaker 1: saying they're vulnerable in this match. These are two teams

1216
01:00:13,160 --> 01:00:14,840
Speaker 1: that I think no one wants to believe in, and

1217
01:00:14,880 --> 01:00:16,760
Speaker 1: I kind of get it. But I think that Washington

1218
01:00:17,760 --> 01:00:20,200
Speaker 1: certain traits we I do like Heineck. I don't. I'm

1219
01:00:20,200 --> 01:00:23,040
Speaker 1: not saying he's Aaron Rodgers two point oh, but I

1220
01:00:23,080 --> 01:00:25,200
Speaker 1: think he's changed the energy on that offensive. To me,

1221
01:00:25,280 --> 01:00:28,840
Speaker 1: that stuff matters. I think. Uh. I think Brian Robinson's

1222
01:00:28,840 --> 01:00:33,520
Speaker 1: emergence is more important than Heinek just because Heineke, I

1223
01:00:33,520 --> 01:00:35,960
Speaker 1: think is what he is. Heineke is up and down

1224
01:00:36,120 --> 01:00:38,800
Speaker 1: type quarterback who was just easier to root for than

1225
01:00:38,840 --> 01:00:41,080
Speaker 1: Carson Wentz. I feel like that's the biggest difference in

1226
01:00:41,120 --> 01:00:43,720
Speaker 1: a lot of ways between those That's what isn't that

1227
01:00:43,840 --> 01:00:49,120
Speaker 1: making football more enjoyable? It's not crazy about like Also,

1228
01:00:49,200 --> 01:00:51,240
Speaker 1: I mean, they're they're one of the worst offenses in

1229
01:00:51,240 --> 01:00:53,480
Speaker 1: the league, but there are there are, no doubt about it,

1230
01:00:54,080 --> 01:00:56,000
Speaker 1: one of the most run heavy offenses. They are the

1231
01:00:56,000 --> 01:00:57,960
Speaker 1: most run heavy offense in the league since Heineke has

1232
01:00:57,960 --> 01:00:59,320
Speaker 1: been in there. So there you go. And that's what

1233
01:00:59,560 --> 01:01:01,800
Speaker 1: I mean is if this is who Ryan Robinson is

1234
01:01:01,840 --> 01:01:03,400
Speaker 1: going to be going forward, if you can stay healthy,

1235
01:01:03,480 --> 01:01:07,080
Speaker 1: that's a huge huge benefit for Washington and I I

1236
01:01:07,120 --> 01:01:09,320
Speaker 1: think with the sometimes I was thinking about this earlier

1237
01:01:09,320 --> 01:01:12,280
Speaker 1: in the week, are we now seeing the Giants and

1238
01:01:12,800 --> 01:01:17,200
Speaker 1: Commanders basically like switching their season identities. Where we're gonna

1239
01:01:17,240 --> 01:01:21,520
Speaker 1: see Washington continue to just win games in close fashion

1240
01:01:21,600 --> 01:01:24,720
Speaker 1: by just being physical and and just making the play

1241
01:01:24,760 --> 01:01:26,640
Speaker 1: when it needs to be made. Because I do think

1242
01:01:26,760 --> 01:01:30,000
Speaker 1: Washington is a team that is better more even though

1243
01:01:30,160 --> 01:01:32,840
Speaker 1: their record isn't as good. I think they're in better

1244
01:01:32,960 --> 01:01:36,480
Speaker 1: position here to take that wild card spot than the

1245
01:01:36,520 --> 01:01:39,120
Speaker 1: Giants and only half a game back, so they'll be

1246
01:01:39,440 --> 01:01:41,480
Speaker 1: after this by and then they play the Giants again.

1247
01:01:41,480 --> 01:01:42,720
Speaker 1: So I want to see what they show this, what

1248
01:01:42,800 --> 01:01:45,680
Speaker 1: these teams show each other, This show me Sunday game. Yeah,

1249
01:01:45,760 --> 01:01:47,560
Speaker 1: for both teams, because I think a lot of people

1250
01:01:47,920 --> 01:01:50,560
Speaker 1: are expecting the Giants to fold now, and a lot

1251
01:01:50,560 --> 01:01:53,120
Speaker 1: of people now are I think Washington is getting some

1252
01:01:53,160 --> 01:01:55,840
Speaker 1: positive pop, like, hey, look at the Commanders. Now. If

1253
01:01:55,880 --> 01:01:58,320
Speaker 1: you get spanked by the Giants here and the Giants

1254
01:01:58,360 --> 01:02:01,120
Speaker 1: take commanding lead in the playoffbrade, then it's gonna be

1255
01:02:01,120 --> 01:02:03,600
Speaker 1: a different vibe. But yeah, I do want, like I

1256
01:02:03,640 --> 01:02:05,480
Speaker 1: would like Washington to keep it going here. You know,

1257
01:02:05,600 --> 01:02:07,800
Speaker 1: popped up in that Thanksgiving the was our friend Cave

1258
01:02:07,840 --> 01:02:11,640
Speaker 1: and Thibodeau great, great game, uh nine pressures in that game.

1259
01:02:12,000 --> 01:02:17,200
Speaker 1: They need some defense, a very close friends, something that

1260
01:02:17,280 --> 01:02:19,680
Speaker 1: they can rely on. Because the worst group in this game,

1261
01:02:19,800 --> 01:02:22,560
Speaker 1: you think it's the Giants offense, but numbers wise, by far,

1262
01:02:22,800 --> 01:02:25,640
Speaker 1: it's the Giants defense. And part of that has been

1263
01:02:25,680 --> 01:02:28,520
Speaker 1: their boom er bust mentality where they just blitz like

1264
01:02:28,600 --> 01:02:31,680
Speaker 1: crazy and they've gotten crushed forward a handful of times.

1265
01:02:32,320 --> 01:02:34,640
Speaker 1: Part of it's just personnel and they've been injured and

1266
01:02:34,680 --> 01:02:37,840
Speaker 1: they are healthier. So I think this is a tough

1267
01:02:37,840 --> 01:02:40,840
Speaker 1: Giants team to prepare for the first time, because I

1268
01:02:40,840 --> 01:02:42,560
Speaker 1: think on both sides of the ball, they have very

1269
01:02:42,640 --> 01:02:44,880
Speaker 1: unique scheme. So to me, it's a coaching game and

1270
01:02:44,920 --> 01:02:47,960
Speaker 1: they need to have the better coaching team to win it.

1271
01:02:48,000 --> 01:02:51,680
Speaker 1: But Heinik is so lucky, man, I'm getting annoyed. Actually

1272
01:02:51,720 --> 01:02:54,520
Speaker 1: now why because to be he's one of the worst

1273
01:02:54,560 --> 01:02:56,800
Speaker 1: quarterbacks in the league's I'd say he's probably played a

1274
01:02:57,000 --> 01:02:59,560
Speaker 1: he's played worse than whence their offense has been worse

1275
01:03:00,240 --> 01:03:03,360
Speaker 1: by any like he is by far the NFL leader

1276
01:03:03,360 --> 01:03:05,960
Speaker 1: and turnover where he plays worse than Zach Wilson, just

1277
01:03:06,040 --> 01:03:11,560
Speaker 1: more likely Slinger. I feel like he's he's just do

1278
01:03:11,920 --> 01:03:14,640
Speaker 1: for a game where everything goes wrong for him, and

1279
01:03:14,680 --> 01:03:18,040
Speaker 1: I could see this being the game the Giants. I'm

1280
01:03:18,040 --> 01:03:20,320
Speaker 1: with you, Giants. I've only picked you once all year

1281
01:03:20,880 --> 01:03:22,720
Speaker 1: and that was against the Texans, But I'm with you

1282
01:03:22,800 --> 01:03:25,480
Speaker 1: this this whole. Like I I don't totally disagree with

1283
01:03:25,520 --> 01:03:28,320
Speaker 1: what you're saying about Heineke being like there he some

1284
01:03:28,360 --> 01:03:29,920
Speaker 1: of those plays had they gone the other way. He's

1285
01:03:29,960 --> 01:03:33,480
Speaker 1: got like twelve interceptions something. But Carson Wentz is equally

1286
01:03:33,560 --> 01:03:36,560
Speaker 1: capable of totally imploding in a big spot. So they're

1287
01:03:36,640 --> 01:03:38,600
Speaker 1: they're just kind of riding the hot hand. I have

1288
01:03:38,640 --> 01:03:41,040
Speaker 1: no problem. These ten times more enjoyable to watch for me,

1289
01:03:41,120 --> 01:03:44,160
Speaker 1: So it's all I care about ten times. Then Carson wentz,

1290
01:03:44,800 --> 01:03:49,520
Speaker 1: I don't know. I just don't see. Well, it's a

1291
01:03:49,560 --> 01:03:52,520
Speaker 1: personal choice. I know. Uh, Giants were six and one.

1292
01:03:53,000 --> 01:03:55,960
Speaker 1: They have lost three or five if they don't win

1293
01:03:56,360 --> 01:03:59,320
Speaker 1: this game. Uh, and it becomes four or five, then

1294
01:03:59,360 --> 01:04:01,240
Speaker 1: they get the ells and it's five of six, and

1295
01:04:01,280 --> 01:04:02,720
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, the wheels are coming off. So

1296
01:04:02,760 --> 01:04:07,000
Speaker 1: the Giants need to win this game. Let's see if

1297
01:04:07,080 --> 01:04:09,160
Speaker 1: they can do it. Let's take a break and we will. Oh,

1298
01:04:09,200 --> 01:04:11,720
Speaker 1: by the way, one more thing. As I go to

1299
01:04:11,800 --> 01:04:14,760
Speaker 1: check the Giants schedule, I see an article to the right.

1300
01:04:15,480 --> 01:04:19,200
Speaker 1: Uh oh b J free agency Cole and Cowboys, Bills,

1301
01:04:19,240 --> 01:04:22,960
Speaker 1: Giants stars entice wide receiver and a picture of Beckham

1302
01:04:23,000 --> 01:04:26,560
Speaker 1: next to von Miller like courtside at a basketball game. Flash.

1303
01:04:26,600 --> 01:04:29,520
Speaker 1: And this is exactly what I'm talking about. What what

1304
01:04:29,800 --> 01:04:32,720
Speaker 1: is with the why? Why is this such a huge story?

1305
01:04:32,800 --> 01:04:35,400
Speaker 1: I know we know why he's in the Giant He's

1306
01:04:35,400 --> 01:04:37,920
Speaker 1: with the Giants Thursday, like on a practice day in

1307
01:04:37,960 --> 01:04:40,240
Speaker 1: the middle of the season, like we're tracking like every

1308
01:04:40,320 --> 01:04:43,680
Speaker 1: move of this man. Right, I think you need to

1309
01:04:43,800 --> 01:04:46,760
Speaker 1: you need to spend some time disengaging with the narrative

1310
01:04:46,800 --> 01:04:49,440
Speaker 1: because it's going to just be more tenious by day.

1311
01:04:49,480 --> 01:04:52,960
Speaker 1: It's becoming an issue for me personally. I acknowledge that

1312
01:04:53,360 --> 01:04:57,800
Speaker 1: as so, all right, let me just check out maybe

1313
01:04:57,800 --> 01:04:59,840
Speaker 1: read the article online to us, so tell us something

1314
01:05:00,040 --> 01:05:04,080
Speaker 1: that I thought. Let's see, Let's take a break. We'll

1315
01:05:04,080 --> 01:05:10,280
Speaker 1: be right back. Welcome back at his time now for

1316
01:05:10,360 --> 01:05:15,520
Speaker 1: the Sunday Drive presented by Toyota, and we are going

1317
01:05:15,600 --> 01:05:20,280
Speaker 1: to drive all the way to the desert, Greg's future

1318
01:05:20,360 --> 01:05:25,439
Speaker 1: hometown where the Las Vegas Raiders. We'll meet the Los

1319
01:05:25,520 --> 01:05:33,040
Speaker 1: Angeles Chargers. Interesting game, a show me game for a

1320
01:05:33,080 --> 01:05:34,880
Speaker 1: couple of teams that you know, speaking of the desert.

1321
01:05:35,000 --> 01:05:39,640
Speaker 1: They have this game completely even coin flip. And I

1322
01:05:39,680 --> 01:05:43,280
Speaker 1: think that's accurate because you have a Chargers team who

1323
01:05:43,320 --> 01:05:45,440
Speaker 1: I want to buy into, I want to believe in.

1324
01:05:45,920 --> 01:05:48,160
Speaker 1: I haven't been able to do it all year. But

1325
01:05:48,280 --> 01:05:51,360
Speaker 1: the way they won that game in Arizona, that is fun.

1326
01:05:51,520 --> 01:05:54,520
Speaker 1: That's like maybe that's a light switch type game. And

1327
01:05:54,960 --> 01:05:56,640
Speaker 1: and I don't know is Mike Williams, is he just

1328
01:05:56,720 --> 01:05:59,400
Speaker 1: out off the grid again, like what is his situal practicing?

1329
01:05:59,680 --> 01:06:04,200
Speaker 1: And we're here, We're here in the same place with Williams.

1330
01:06:04,200 --> 01:06:06,880
Speaker 1: But you got Keenan Allen back, and Justin Herbert is

1331
01:06:06,880 --> 01:06:10,400
Speaker 1: looking more and more like Justin Herbert every week. And

1332
01:06:10,440 --> 01:06:12,320
Speaker 1: then you have the Raiders and I and I look

1333
01:06:12,360 --> 01:06:14,640
Speaker 1: at the raiders upcoming schedule and I say, man, if

1334
01:06:14,680 --> 01:06:18,200
Speaker 1: they I'm not saying anything here. I ain't saying nothing here,

1335
01:06:18,640 --> 01:06:22,200
Speaker 1: But what I am saying is if the Charger, if

1336
01:06:22,200 --> 01:06:24,960
Speaker 1: the Raiders beat the Chargers, you love the Raiders. The

1337
01:06:25,040 --> 01:06:29,760
Speaker 1: Raiders have a chance to get into this playoff race. Yes,

1338
01:06:29,880 --> 01:06:33,760
Speaker 1: they absolutely can. They after if they win, if they

1339
01:06:33,760 --> 01:06:36,520
Speaker 1: beat the Chargers there five and seven, then they get

1340
01:06:36,520 --> 01:06:39,280
Speaker 1: the Rams there six and seven, then their home against

1341
01:06:39,280 --> 01:06:44,400
Speaker 1: the Patriots. There's seven and seven, at Pittsburgh eight and seven,

1342
01:06:44,640 --> 01:06:47,959
Speaker 1: and then San Francisco. Casey, I mean, that's that's where

1343
01:06:47,960 --> 01:06:50,240
Speaker 1: the journey ends. But all I'm saying is they will

1344
01:06:50,280 --> 01:06:52,280
Speaker 1: be you can get to eight and seven, they will

1345
01:06:52,320 --> 01:06:54,520
Speaker 1: be in the in the hunt category. But they have

1346
01:06:54,680 --> 01:06:56,440
Speaker 1: to win this game. And I don't know if this

1347
01:06:56,520 --> 01:06:59,000
Speaker 1: is a team that has the ability to grasp the moment.

1348
01:06:59,440 --> 01:07:02,120
Speaker 1: It feels like everything about them doesn't grasp the moment,

1349
01:07:02,400 --> 01:07:04,919
Speaker 1: but they certainly have grasped the moment in the last

1350
01:07:04,920 --> 01:07:07,920
Speaker 1: two overtimes. I mean, I feel like you spun some

1351
01:07:07,960 --> 01:07:11,800
Speaker 1: fiction with this, like rattling off you know, well, the

1352
01:07:11,840 --> 01:07:15,600
Speaker 1: predictions are I'd see a team it's also totally capable

1353
01:07:15,800 --> 01:07:19,200
Speaker 1: of like a personal explosion in the wrong way and

1354
01:07:19,280 --> 01:07:22,120
Speaker 1: completely the floor totally falling out. I think right now,

1355
01:07:22,840 --> 01:07:25,040
Speaker 1: Justin Herbert last week, because it was the two previous

1356
01:07:25,040 --> 01:07:28,080
Speaker 1: games against the Chiefs and the Niners, two chances to

1357
01:07:28,120 --> 01:07:31,280
Speaker 1: win in the final moments to Justin Herbert interceptions last

1358
01:07:31,320 --> 01:07:33,680
Speaker 1: week was a breakthrough effort for me. I know they've

1359
01:07:33,680 --> 01:07:35,560
Speaker 1: been saying he's healthy, so he actually looked healthy to

1360
01:07:35,560 --> 01:07:37,800
Speaker 1: me last week. It helps to get Keenan Allen back,

1361
01:07:37,800 --> 01:07:39,480
Speaker 1: but it was more up to me just about the

1362
01:07:39,520 --> 01:07:42,560
Speaker 1: play of Justin Herbert, and to me, that is the

1363
01:07:42,560 --> 01:07:45,520
Speaker 1: difference in this game. If you can keep Max Crosby

1364
01:07:45,560 --> 01:07:48,560
Speaker 1: at Bay and their lines got some issues. Nobody can

1365
01:07:48,560 --> 01:07:52,000
Speaker 1: do that though, No, he's been incredible, but the way

1366
01:07:52,160 --> 01:07:54,920
Speaker 1: he has been unbelievable, I think he's something got to

1367
01:07:54,960 --> 01:07:56,880
Speaker 1: be in the right in the mix their top three.

1368
01:07:57,560 --> 01:08:00,720
Speaker 1: I'm giving it. I mean Mike, but I think those

1369
01:08:00,720 --> 01:08:04,320
Speaker 1: would be my two addressers data points, so they all

1370
01:08:04,320 --> 01:08:08,720
Speaker 1: protein I think those Well, I know, but you would

1371
01:08:08,720 --> 01:08:11,040
Speaker 1: never vote for mals Garrett, So why not? I don't

1372
01:08:11,080 --> 01:08:14,160
Speaker 1: know why. I just know you wouldn't You all here

1373
01:08:14,200 --> 01:08:16,800
Speaker 1: on this podcast all year. Oh the Browns want to

1374
01:08:16,800 --> 01:08:24,719
Speaker 1: disgrace their defenses. Fire everybody. Everyone else but Parsons has

1375
01:08:24,760 --> 01:08:28,599
Speaker 1: been on another level. Cities in the mix. This offensive

1376
01:08:28,640 --> 01:08:32,280
Speaker 1: line done. You mentioned they have issues. Corey Lindsley is

1377
01:08:32,280 --> 01:08:34,800
Speaker 1: the biggest one. So when Corey Linsley, their center, has

1378
01:08:34,840 --> 01:08:37,160
Speaker 1: not been on the field this year, they have not

1379
01:08:37,320 --> 01:08:39,240
Speaker 1: been nearly as good. And you could see it in

1380
01:08:39,280 --> 01:08:42,559
Speaker 1: the Arizona game. Granted they weren't prepared because he got

1381
01:08:42,640 --> 01:08:45,200
Speaker 1: hurt during the game. It was another concussion. You're seeing

1382
01:08:45,240 --> 01:08:48,880
Speaker 1: some of these offensive linemen have multiple concussions. Derrissaw was one,

1383
01:08:48,960 --> 01:08:53,879
Speaker 1: Lindsley is another. Trey Pipkins is also out of practice

1384
01:08:53,920 --> 01:08:56,200
Speaker 1: who has been in and out, but at least would

1385
01:08:56,320 --> 01:08:58,880
Speaker 1: would be playing for them at tackles and then you're

1386
01:08:58,920 --> 01:09:04,240
Speaker 1: on your third tackle. It's concerning their injury situation. Herbert

1387
01:09:04,320 --> 01:09:06,600
Speaker 1: is the difference. I agree with you. They're putting so

1388
01:09:06,720 --> 01:09:08,960
Speaker 1: much on his play. I think he's played really well

1389
01:09:09,000 --> 01:09:12,360
Speaker 1: since the bye. I think they're putting like a Drew

1390
01:09:12,439 --> 01:09:16,760
Speaker 1: Brees Tom Brady in their primes level of responsibility on

1391
01:09:16,800 --> 01:09:19,280
Speaker 1: Herbert where he's just reading everything. He's second in the

1392
01:09:19,360 --> 01:09:22,760
Speaker 1: league and attempts. He's just throwing the despite them having

1393
01:09:22,760 --> 01:09:25,960
Speaker 1: their bye week and they're asking so much, and I

1394
01:09:25,960 --> 01:09:29,040
Speaker 1: think that can work against the Raiders. I have a

1395
01:09:29,080 --> 01:09:31,360
Speaker 1: really hard time picking this game though, Like I don't know.

1396
01:09:31,400 --> 01:09:34,920
Speaker 1: All these injuries worry me about the Chargers and make

1397
01:09:35,000 --> 01:09:40,080
Speaker 1: me lean slightly lost. If Lindsley's out and Williams is out,

1398
01:09:40,240 --> 01:09:43,479
Speaker 1: Derwin James didn't practice. I don't think that's a serious problem,

1399
01:09:43,520 --> 01:09:46,280
Speaker 1: but that's it's a little bit also limited in practice

1400
01:09:46,280 --> 01:09:48,120
Speaker 1: with a calf, so that's something to keep an eye on.

1401
01:09:48,160 --> 01:09:51,040
Speaker 1: After his three yard game, the Raiders could also potentially

1402
01:09:51,080 --> 01:09:53,680
Speaker 1: get back Darren Waller and Hunter Renfro who were designated

1403
01:09:53,680 --> 01:09:56,400
Speaker 1: to return off i R, but they have two games

1404
01:09:56,400 --> 01:09:59,000
Speaker 1: here with a Thursday night game coming up in in

1405
01:09:59,120 --> 01:10:02,080
Speaker 1: five days, so that that's uncertain. As Jacobs is healthy.

1406
01:10:02,360 --> 01:10:05,599
Speaker 1: The Charges right now are allowing five point six yards

1407
01:10:05,640 --> 01:10:09,479
Speaker 1: per carry fourteen all purpose touchdowns in eleven games. They're

1408
01:10:09,520 --> 01:10:11,400
Speaker 1: getting gashed on the ground week after week, so that

1409
01:10:11,439 --> 01:10:13,640
Speaker 1: sets up really well. But on the flip side, and

1410
01:10:13,680 --> 01:10:15,760
Speaker 1: I really like Patrick Graham and what he's done in

1411
01:10:15,760 --> 01:10:18,479
Speaker 1: the past, but this Raiders past defense is a disaster.

1412
01:10:18,560 --> 01:10:21,960
Speaker 1: They're allowing the league high seventy two completion percentage and

1413
01:10:22,000 --> 01:10:24,879
Speaker 1: the fourth most yards per attempt and league and Herbert's

1414
01:10:24,920 --> 01:10:27,599
Speaker 1: yards per attempt have been down because he throws forty

1415
01:10:27,640 --> 01:10:30,360
Speaker 1: five times a game and they're asking DeAndre Carter to

1416
01:10:30,439 --> 01:10:32,400
Speaker 1: win on the outside and he's kind of doing it,

1417
01:10:32,400 --> 01:10:34,840
Speaker 1: which is but I mean, this isn't this is a

1418
01:10:34,880 --> 01:10:38,719
Speaker 1: tasty matchup for her a little bit the defensive Josh

1419
01:10:38,960 --> 01:10:42,160
Speaker 1: Justin Herbert media guy right now. Every time anything slightly

1420
01:10:42,160 --> 01:10:44,880
Speaker 1: critical comes out, But this and that and this and that, well,

1421
01:10:44,920 --> 01:10:49,400
Speaker 1: he's just a social media quarterback. I mean, I I think, uh,

1422
01:10:49,560 --> 01:10:51,120
Speaker 1: I think he's played well. I think he's been a

1423
01:10:51,160 --> 01:10:53,880
Speaker 1: top ten quarterback this year. But I think they're running

1424
01:10:53,880 --> 01:10:57,840
Speaker 1: game is their short passing game, and that'll change how

1425
01:10:57,920 --> 01:10:59,479
Speaker 1: you do it. I mean, they they didn't even try

1426
01:10:59,520 --> 01:11:01,599
Speaker 1: to run this week. They're just they're just throwing these

1427
01:11:01,680 --> 01:11:05,959
Speaker 1: little yeah screens And who do you think the online

1428
01:11:06,000 --> 01:11:08,519
Speaker 1: I took the Raiders, but I sometimes I change them

1429
01:11:08,600 --> 01:11:10,320
Speaker 1: late in the week. I took the Raiders in this game.

1430
01:11:11,920 --> 01:11:15,800
Speaker 1: The defenses are equally bad. Although you know what, like

1431
01:11:16,040 --> 01:11:18,000
Speaker 1: when I call the Raiders like a high variant, you

1432
01:11:18,000 --> 01:11:19,800
Speaker 1: have no idea what they're gonna do. Well, that's the Charger.

1433
01:11:20,160 --> 01:11:23,360
Speaker 1: I think thirty one third thirty. There's a Raiders game

1434
01:11:23,360 --> 01:11:27,720
Speaker 1: another close games was like they'd lost in week one

1435
01:11:27,760 --> 01:11:29,000
Speaker 1: and I was like, let these teams just feel like

1436
01:11:29,040 --> 01:11:32,320
Speaker 1: they should split. And that was the Sunday Dry presented

1437
01:11:32,360 --> 01:11:35,679
Speaker 1: by Toyota. Um. All right, up next in the draft

1438
01:11:35,760 --> 01:11:39,679
Speaker 1: is Mark Sessler, who receives the pick from the old

1439
01:11:39,760 --> 01:11:43,000
Speaker 1: Zeuster and that Blockbuster trade. In case you're just tuning in, Yeah,

1440
01:11:43,040 --> 01:11:46,080
Speaker 1: that's the eighth time Dan's gone third person there during

1441
01:11:46,120 --> 01:11:50,559
Speaker 1: our episode. I'm gonna go Cleveland and Houston. Um, it's

1442
01:11:51,360 --> 01:11:53,880
Speaker 1: obviously I think a little bit as a as sort

1443
01:11:53,920 --> 01:11:56,960
Speaker 1: of an ex Browns fan. I want to just see

1444
01:11:57,000 --> 01:11:59,720
Speaker 1: what this looks like. But I gotta say, like, I

1445
01:12:00,040 --> 01:12:02,640
Speaker 1: really back to being in next round face. Well, I

1446
01:12:02,680 --> 01:12:05,000
Speaker 1: really will miss Jacoby Brissette, and I know we talked

1447
01:12:05,040 --> 01:12:06,920
Speaker 1: about him a little bit on Sunday night, but I

1448
01:12:06,960 --> 01:12:08,519
Speaker 1: don't know what more you could have asked him to do.

1449
01:12:09,280 --> 01:12:11,680
Speaker 1: I think he's like, literally like we talked about being

1450
01:12:11,760 --> 01:12:13,840
Speaker 1: right in the middle of the league quarterback wise, and

1451
01:12:13,880 --> 01:12:15,759
Speaker 1: he and he earned that. He did it through his plays,

1452
01:12:15,760 --> 01:12:18,800
Speaker 1: his best play of his career, and I I honestly think, like,

1453
01:12:18,840 --> 01:12:21,240
Speaker 1: if you're Deshaun Watson, we're gonna get to Shaun Watson

1454
01:12:21,240 --> 01:12:25,360
Speaker 1: now against Houston, which is a real weird opening chapter

1455
01:12:25,520 --> 01:12:28,400
Speaker 1: for that whole thing. Um, I think you're challenged to

1456
01:12:28,439 --> 01:12:31,360
Speaker 1: go and out play Brissett, but also coming out of

1457
01:12:31,439 --> 01:12:35,439
Speaker 1: last week, like those players love Brissette so much, and

1458
01:12:35,520 --> 01:12:38,240
Speaker 1: Kevin st. Santa Fanski said it's he's never been around

1459
01:12:38,439 --> 01:12:40,800
Speaker 1: a better teammate and all his time in football, and

1460
01:12:40,880 --> 01:12:43,040
Speaker 1: so you're now going to plug into Shaun Watson, who

1461
01:12:43,040 --> 01:12:45,120
Speaker 1: I think is under a fair amount of pressure to

1462
01:12:45,400 --> 01:12:47,920
Speaker 1: an offense that's been good to equal what Jacoby Brissette

1463
01:12:47,920 --> 01:12:49,960
Speaker 1: has done. Cause added the game, it doesn't sound that

1464
01:12:50,040 --> 01:12:54,120
Speaker 1: confident when when he mentioned how Jacoby Brissette Deshaun Watson.

1465
01:12:54,120 --> 01:12:55,840
Speaker 1: That is at his media appearance, we can get to

1466
01:12:55,880 --> 01:12:58,439
Speaker 1: that different aspects of it, but just in terms of

1467
01:12:58,439 --> 01:13:01,360
Speaker 1: his on field play, he mentioned how their top five

1468
01:13:01,400 --> 01:13:05,000
Speaker 1: and all the numbers he certainly wasn't puffing his chest out.

1469
01:13:05,040 --> 01:13:07,559
Speaker 1: We've haven't heard a lot of reports that he's looked

1470
01:13:07,640 --> 01:13:10,559
Speaker 1: great at practice, whether that was in the off season

1471
01:13:10,760 --> 01:13:13,120
Speaker 1: or now. No, no one's saying those reports. You kind

1472
01:13:13,120 --> 01:13:16,320
Speaker 1: of heard some whispers that it's been okay, and he

1473
01:13:16,520 --> 01:13:20,600
Speaker 1: certainly struggled in that preseason. Matt I hated how he

1474
01:13:20,680 --> 01:13:25,160
Speaker 1: handled uh the off field uh, you know, sexual assault

1475
01:13:25,200 --> 01:13:27,080
Speaker 1: allegations part of his press come and we can get

1476
01:13:27,080 --> 01:13:28,840
Speaker 1: to that. But I thought it was interesting to how

1477
01:13:28,840 --> 01:13:32,600
Speaker 1: he handled the on field one, not sounding like he's

1478
01:13:32,640 --> 01:13:35,240
Speaker 1: expecting to hit the ground running. It should help that

1479
01:13:35,320 --> 01:13:37,240
Speaker 1: he's playing one of the worst defensive league and you

1480
01:13:37,240 --> 01:13:39,519
Speaker 1: can just hand the ball off to Nick Chubb. But

1481
01:13:39,760 --> 01:13:42,639
Speaker 1: I think there's an open question whether he'll be better

1482
01:13:42,760 --> 01:13:46,720
Speaker 1: over the last six games than Jacoby Brissette was. I

1483
01:13:46,760 --> 01:13:49,720
Speaker 1: don't think it matters at all. And if there's a

1484
01:13:49,760 --> 01:13:52,720
Speaker 1: faction of the Browns locker room that is having an

1485
01:13:52,760 --> 01:13:55,519
Speaker 1: issue with Jake Briskett losing his job, we'll get him

1486
01:13:55,520 --> 01:14:00,000
Speaker 1: out of the building. This is the Shawn Watson's team,

1487
01:14:00,360 --> 01:14:02,479
Speaker 1: whether we like it or anybody likes it or not,

1488
01:14:02,960 --> 01:14:05,880
Speaker 1: and whether he plays better than Jacoby Brissette hitting the

1489
01:14:05,880 --> 01:14:08,120
Speaker 1: ground or for the balance of the season doesn't matter

1490
01:14:08,200 --> 01:14:10,400
Speaker 1: because this is a big picture move by the Browns

1491
01:14:10,400 --> 01:14:13,000
Speaker 1: that they made, as we all know. And Brissette I

1492
01:14:13,000 --> 01:14:15,920
Speaker 1: think was very He was good, he was steady, but

1493
01:14:15,960 --> 01:14:18,160
Speaker 1: he threw twelve touchdowns in eleven games. It wasn't like

1494
01:14:18,160 --> 01:14:22,759
Speaker 1: he's replacing Dan Marino here. I I do, I wouldn't.

1495
01:14:22,840 --> 01:14:25,479
Speaker 1: I would not be surprised if Watson does struggle. He

1496
01:14:25,640 --> 01:14:27,560
Speaker 1: literally and I know this has been off stated, but

1497
01:14:27,600 --> 01:14:29,680
Speaker 1: we'll say it one more time. When he takes the

1498
01:14:29,720 --> 01:14:32,200
Speaker 1: field on Sunday, it will be his first game action

1499
01:14:32,240 --> 01:14:35,160
Speaker 1: in seven hundred days and he just has been out

1500
01:14:35,160 --> 01:14:37,000
Speaker 1: of the league for two years, and that is going,

1501
01:14:37,120 --> 01:14:40,280
Speaker 1: I think to show itself. So if Browns fans are

1502
01:14:40,280 --> 01:14:43,679
Speaker 1: gonna get upset that the offense takes a step down

1503
01:14:43,800 --> 01:14:46,200
Speaker 1: right now. So that's just part of I think the

1504
01:14:46,240 --> 01:14:49,120
Speaker 1: suspension and everything that plays into it, and they're gonna

1505
01:14:49,160 --> 01:14:52,160
Speaker 1: eat it. They're gonna swallow that sadness because it's not

1506
01:14:52,200 --> 01:14:54,679
Speaker 1: about this season with Shaun Watson is about going folks,

1507
01:14:54,720 --> 01:14:57,479
Speaker 1: It's not, and it it probably even helps cleavel a

1508
01:14:57,520 --> 01:14:59,080
Speaker 1: little bit. I know they'd like to be in the

1509
01:14:59,120 --> 01:15:02,720
Speaker 1: playoff race, but that the record isn't flipped. That you're right,

1510
01:15:02,840 --> 01:15:05,599
Speaker 1: like Brissette playing pretty well, they still they still are

1511
01:15:05,600 --> 01:15:08,120
Speaker 1: in a situation where the season is essentially lost, and

1512
01:15:08,160 --> 01:15:10,960
Speaker 1: so you're not going to have quarterback number two come

1513
01:15:11,000 --> 01:15:12,960
Speaker 1: in and then then you fall out of the playoff race,

1514
01:15:13,000 --> 01:15:16,120
Speaker 1: because I think that would be a rather there would

1515
01:15:16,120 --> 01:15:19,200
Speaker 1: be anger or frustration in the fan base if you're right,

1516
01:15:19,280 --> 01:15:22,160
Speaker 1: if they were in the mix right now and then

1517
01:15:22,160 --> 01:15:24,200
Speaker 1: he struggled. But I think he's gonna have time to

1518
01:15:24,200 --> 01:15:26,559
Speaker 1: get his feet wet. I think is you're playing a

1519
01:15:26,600 --> 01:15:29,680
Speaker 1: team that over the last two first halves we're out

1520
01:15:29,800 --> 01:15:33,160
Speaker 1: yardage five and thirty three yards to thirty seven. It's

1521
01:15:33,160 --> 01:15:35,519
Speaker 1: hard to do that. We could gain thirty seven yards

1522
01:15:35,560 --> 01:15:38,760
Speaker 1: and two NFL we even broke Damian Pierce, the guy

1523
01:15:38,800 --> 01:15:41,760
Speaker 1: that we were like into this season. I think he's

1524
01:15:41,800 --> 01:15:43,920
Speaker 1: averaging about like ten yards again the last It's hard

1525
01:15:43,920 --> 01:15:47,799
Speaker 1: to Houston. I don't know, but the fact that's in Houston.

1526
01:15:48,520 --> 01:15:52,240
Speaker 1: The matchup obviously is fantastic for for Watson and the Browns.

1527
01:15:52,760 --> 01:15:56,000
Speaker 1: The fact that's in Houston for him personally, I think

1528
01:15:56,080 --> 01:16:00,520
Speaker 1: adds to something I've thought about and and was ascerbrated

1529
01:16:00,560 --> 01:16:05,479
Speaker 1: watching his press conference, he showed zero contrition. Again, he

1530
01:16:05,560 --> 01:16:13,040
Speaker 1: won't talk about anything other than football. He doesn't sound

1531
01:16:13,240 --> 01:16:16,360
Speaker 1: overly comfortable, just like with where he is, and he

1532
01:16:16,479 --> 01:16:18,559
Speaker 1: just sounds like a guy who's kind of living a lie.

1533
01:16:18,640 --> 01:16:20,840
Speaker 1: He that he's at no point has moved on and

1534
01:16:20,880 --> 01:16:23,720
Speaker 1: everyone says, Okay, we want to move on from from

1535
01:16:23,760 --> 01:16:26,960
Speaker 1: this and we want to talk about football. But he

1536
01:16:27,040 --> 01:16:29,280
Speaker 1: doesn't sound like a young man that like or a

1537
01:16:29,280 --> 01:16:33,400
Speaker 1: man that has dealt with it whatsoever. He doesn't sound

1538
01:16:33,439 --> 01:16:36,800
Speaker 1: like a leader that you can get behind. And the

1539
01:16:36,840 --> 01:16:41,240
Speaker 1: fact that in Houston against the team that had to

1540
01:16:41,240 --> 01:16:43,880
Speaker 1: give up a lot of money to settle all these

1541
01:16:43,880 --> 01:16:47,840
Speaker 1: cases with the women uh that accused Shaun Watson have said,

1542
01:16:48,120 --> 01:16:51,759
Speaker 1: you know, sexual assault, the same women that ultimately cost

1543
01:16:51,840 --> 01:16:54,240
Speaker 1: him two years of his career because of his actions,

1544
01:16:54,439 --> 01:16:56,200
Speaker 1: and that he had to set all this money. They're

1545
01:16:56,200 --> 01:17:01,280
Speaker 1: gonna be in the stadium there. The team who admitted

1546
01:17:01,439 --> 01:17:03,960
Speaker 1: they said they didn't admit responsibility, but they also did

1547
01:17:04,000 --> 01:17:06,559
Speaker 1: pay the women quickly when they sued the team. The

1548
01:17:06,560 --> 01:17:08,880
Speaker 1: fact that it's all in Houston, how could that not

1549
01:17:09,160 --> 01:17:13,080
Speaker 1: like have an effect and how could him and like

1550
01:17:13,120 --> 01:17:16,280
Speaker 1: where he is in the sports landscape, which is gonna

1551
01:17:16,320 --> 01:17:19,400
Speaker 1: be enemy number one whenever he's on the road. He

1552
01:17:19,400 --> 01:17:22,599
Speaker 1: he obviously knows that hard questions are coming from the media,

1553
01:17:22,640 --> 01:17:24,240
Speaker 1: and he pushed them off today. But I don't think

1554
01:17:24,240 --> 01:17:27,000
Speaker 1: that's necessarily gonna end unless he ever does address it

1555
01:17:27,080 --> 01:17:29,840
Speaker 1: or ever shows contrition. I think it's I think that's

1556
01:17:29,880 --> 01:17:32,600
Speaker 1: just like kind of that plays into everything. He's a

1557
01:17:32,680 --> 01:17:35,920
Speaker 1: human being, and I think that's like it's gonna make

1558
01:17:35,960 --> 01:17:39,400
Speaker 1: it all even more difficult. I feel everything you're saying

1559
01:17:39,560 --> 01:17:43,160
Speaker 1: makes sense to me, but I also also following him

1560
01:17:43,200 --> 01:17:46,439
Speaker 1: and watching how he's handled this whole thing. Um, it

1561
01:17:46,479 --> 01:17:49,280
Speaker 1: would not surprise me if he's denied this so many

1562
01:17:49,360 --> 01:17:54,439
Speaker 1: times and his his his record in his mind is

1563
01:17:54,479 --> 01:17:58,559
Speaker 1: different the way his uh the accusers come down on this,

1564
01:17:58,680 --> 01:18:00,720
Speaker 1: the way people on the outside that thinks he has

1565
01:18:00,960 --> 01:18:03,800
Speaker 1: handled this very poorly. But if he in his mind

1566
01:18:03,840 --> 01:18:07,040
Speaker 1: feels like, you know, I'm moving forward and I didn't

1567
01:18:07,080 --> 01:18:09,960
Speaker 1: do anything wrong, Like whether that's true or not, I

1568
01:18:10,000 --> 01:18:12,080
Speaker 1: get more of the vibe. That's where he's at right Listen,

1569
01:18:12,160 --> 01:18:16,479
Speaker 1: I didn't, But I think I think that's unhealthy and

1570
01:18:16,520 --> 01:18:19,800
Speaker 1: that's probably and it's that's the problem for them and

1571
01:18:19,880 --> 01:18:22,240
Speaker 1: possibly for the brands. If what you're saying is true

1572
01:18:22,280 --> 01:18:24,679
Speaker 1: that he's at war with himself privately on some level

1573
01:18:24,680 --> 01:18:26,680
Speaker 1: about how this all played out, that could have a

1574
01:18:26,680 --> 01:18:29,640
Speaker 1: negative effect on his career, on his relationship with teammates,

1575
01:18:29,680 --> 01:18:32,040
Speaker 1: with everything. But I'm also more in the camp that

1576
01:18:32,400 --> 01:18:35,760
Speaker 1: he is totally processed this in a blinder's way, which

1577
01:18:35,840 --> 01:18:39,800
Speaker 1: is not not something I respect especially, but probably will

1578
01:18:39,840 --> 01:18:42,479
Speaker 1: help him on the field. I agree with you're not

1579
01:18:42,560 --> 01:18:46,920
Speaker 1: basing it simply on his own words during these there

1580
01:18:47,600 --> 01:18:50,800
Speaker 1: but there to somebody. But that's sort of like living

1581
01:18:50,880 --> 01:18:53,360
Speaker 1: or lie, and you can convince yourself into that and

1582
01:18:53,400 --> 01:18:55,360
Speaker 1: have all this denial. But I do think that's got

1583
01:18:55,360 --> 01:18:58,000
Speaker 1: to show up in it in his life, and potentially

1584
01:18:59,160 --> 01:19:00,840
Speaker 1: you kind of want and saying, you know, I'm saying,

1585
01:19:00,920 --> 01:19:04,080
Speaker 1: we all want him there to be consequences for this,

1586
01:19:04,400 --> 01:19:06,760
Speaker 1: And I think that's part of what's made this so frustrating,

1587
01:19:07,320 --> 01:19:10,840
Speaker 1: is that there might not be any going forward, like

1588
01:19:10,920 --> 01:19:13,880
Speaker 1: he's moved past that, while all the people that were

1589
01:19:13,880 --> 01:19:17,360
Speaker 1: allegedly connected to his behavior don't get to move past it. Well,

1590
01:19:17,400 --> 01:19:19,800
Speaker 1: I guess what the League has said, We've moved past it, right,

1591
01:19:20,720 --> 01:19:23,080
Speaker 1: It's been legislating that's that's it. But you have to

1592
01:19:23,120 --> 01:19:26,799
Speaker 1: have some crazy blinders on to feel like it hasn't

1593
01:19:26,960 --> 01:19:32,519
Speaker 1: you know. I think he's crazy age to understand that,

1594
01:19:32,560 --> 01:19:35,240
Speaker 1: like this just took away two years away from my

1595
01:19:35,400 --> 01:19:38,720
Speaker 1: career and my prime. I was couldn't have been like

1596
01:19:38,920 --> 01:19:42,000
Speaker 1: more publicly respected and actually raised up as like a

1597
01:19:42,000 --> 01:19:46,200
Speaker 1: guy that people like and now am enemy number one nationally.

1598
01:19:46,720 --> 01:19:49,760
Speaker 1: And there's no guarantee he's gonna be the same player here,

1599
01:19:49,840 --> 01:19:51,400
Speaker 1: or that it's all gonna work out, or that this

1600
01:19:51,520 --> 01:19:53,960
Speaker 1: move works out. Like now comes the hard part. He

1601
01:19:54,040 --> 01:19:56,080
Speaker 1: might just be mediocre, he might be great, he might

1602
01:19:56,120 --> 01:19:58,759
Speaker 1: be bad. Who's to know. Let us take a break

1603
01:20:00,400 --> 01:20:05,040
Speaker 1: and we'll be right back. All right, we are back

1604
01:20:05,040 --> 01:20:11,360
Speaker 1: in his time now for Greggy the gree Greggy having

1605
01:20:11,360 --> 01:20:15,599
Speaker 1: a tough draft. I'm having a great draft. I'm having

1606
01:20:15,640 --> 01:20:19,960
Speaker 1: a fine time. I'm taking the jack Bar and the Lions.

1607
01:20:20,040 --> 01:20:23,760
Speaker 1: It's the team of around th l This is how

1608
01:20:24,240 --> 01:20:28,880
Speaker 1: because I've had the Lions every single week almost I

1609
01:20:28,960 --> 01:20:32,160
Speaker 1: really have had the Lions almost every week. This is uh,

1610
01:20:32,240 --> 01:20:35,320
Speaker 1: you're having a career altering draft in a negative way.

1611
01:20:35,360 --> 01:20:37,160
Speaker 1: But this was a good pick here, good value. It

1612
01:20:37,280 --> 01:20:42,160
Speaker 1: was all I could take uh, fun game. Annoyed personally

1613
01:20:42,200 --> 01:20:44,360
Speaker 1: that these two teams are playing each other because I

1614
01:20:44,400 --> 01:20:46,240
Speaker 1: feel like they're the two teams that are better than

1615
01:20:46,280 --> 01:20:48,400
Speaker 1: the record at four and seven. I throw the Browns

1616
01:20:48,439 --> 01:20:50,400
Speaker 1: in there too, by the way, but these are the

1617
01:20:50,439 --> 01:20:53,559
Speaker 1: two teams that are playing their best football right now.

1618
01:20:53,720 --> 01:20:56,480
Speaker 1: But Greg, that's why it's a great show. Yeah, absolutely,

1619
01:20:56,640 --> 01:20:58,479
Speaker 1: and it makes them more interesting. But I want both

1620
01:20:58,479 --> 01:21:00,720
Speaker 1: of these teams to win this week. I have a

1621
01:21:00,760 --> 01:21:04,840
Speaker 1: fondness for this Jaguars team now with Trevor Lawrence, uh,

1622
01:21:05,000 --> 01:21:09,200
Speaker 1: showing me something and playing very clean football week after week,

1623
01:21:09,280 --> 01:21:12,080
Speaker 1: making really good decisions, being really accurate. But even more

1624
01:21:12,120 --> 01:21:16,360
Speaker 1: fondness for this Lions defense. They're they've changed their their

1625
01:21:16,439 --> 01:21:19,519
Speaker 1: numbers since the buy are average, and that's something, and

1626
01:21:19,520 --> 01:21:22,439
Speaker 1: they're flying around the field and that's something that's coaching.

1627
01:21:22,720 --> 01:21:26,040
Speaker 1: They were such an absolute sieve for six weeks that

1628
01:21:26,120 --> 01:21:29,479
Speaker 1: all they needed was an average defense, and suddenly you're

1629
01:21:29,520 --> 01:21:31,479
Speaker 1: in every game. And maybe Jared Goff's not going to

1630
01:21:31,560 --> 01:21:34,559
Speaker 1: close them out when you're playing good opponents like the Bills,

1631
01:21:34,600 --> 01:21:36,479
Speaker 1: but I think they'll close out the Jaguars because I

1632
01:21:36,479 --> 01:21:39,680
Speaker 1: think this Jaguars defense quietly a little disappointing. You can

1633
01:21:39,680 --> 01:21:41,400
Speaker 1: certainly throw on him, and I think the Lions go

1634
01:21:41,479 --> 01:21:45,599
Speaker 1: get another win. What are you clapping about? Because the Lions?

1635
01:21:45,640 --> 01:21:48,360
Speaker 1: We get behind the Lions the team around the NFL.

1636
01:21:48,640 --> 01:21:51,720
Speaker 1: How about you? How about I told you that they

1637
01:21:51,960 --> 01:21:53,720
Speaker 1: won me over in that Bills game. I didn't like

1638
01:21:53,760 --> 01:21:55,880
Speaker 1: the way it ended, but they absolutely did. I also

1639
01:21:56,120 --> 01:22:01,160
Speaker 1: know what streight of a great perforce naments on Thanksgiving

1640
01:22:01,200 --> 01:22:04,320
Speaker 1: to win over? I said all along, I will allow

1641
01:22:04,520 --> 01:22:06,360
Speaker 1: with the Detroit Lions to come to me. I'm not

1642
01:22:06,400 --> 01:22:10,120
Speaker 1: gonna fabricate or cook up enthusiasm when it wasn't there,

1643
01:22:10,120 --> 01:22:12,720
Speaker 1: but now that it's there, I absolutely enjoy them. But

1644
01:22:13,960 --> 01:22:18,840
Speaker 1: they come to you. Yes, Wow? What? What? What other

1645
01:22:19,600 --> 01:22:23,920
Speaker 1: we like? It's like i'man ros st Brown. Come on over.

1646
01:22:24,360 --> 01:22:29,360
Speaker 1: I'll have time to four, but just make sure you

1647
01:22:29,439 --> 01:22:34,599
Speaker 1: get there on time. Come to me, adore you. This

1648
01:22:34,680 --> 01:22:36,880
Speaker 1: is absurd. If this is actually playing on NFL Network

1649
01:22:36,960 --> 01:22:38,800
Speaker 1: right now, the last ten twelve seconds of the show,

1650
01:22:38,880 --> 01:22:41,280
Speaker 1: I will be stunned and annoyed at the people behind

1651
01:22:41,320 --> 01:22:43,280
Speaker 1: the glass. But I will tell you this, I am

1652
01:22:43,280 --> 01:22:45,920
Speaker 1: equally excited about what Trevor Lawrence has done since Week

1653
01:22:46,000 --> 01:22:50,919
Speaker 1: nine trails only to uh in passer rating in essentially

1654
01:22:50,920 --> 01:22:54,360
Speaker 1: touchdown interception ratio. We waited for this and we kind of,

1655
01:22:54,400 --> 01:22:57,200
Speaker 1: I thought, if anything, we're patient with Trevor Lawrence, but

1656
01:22:57,240 --> 01:22:58,800
Speaker 1: now we are getting it. And I think these are

1657
01:22:58,840 --> 01:23:01,320
Speaker 1: two really you can look at both coaches and say

1658
01:23:01,400 --> 01:23:04,280
Speaker 1: that Campbell has changed the Lions. They're starting to play

1659
01:23:04,280 --> 01:23:06,840
Speaker 1: in his image, and Doug Peterson has flipped the switch

1660
01:23:07,200 --> 01:23:09,200
Speaker 1: on Trevor Lawrence. At this point, I mean, what we're

1661
01:23:09,200 --> 01:23:10,800
Speaker 1: getting over the last three or four weeks that this

1662
01:23:10,840 --> 01:23:12,920
Speaker 1: is who he is and continues to grow. You've got

1663
01:23:12,920 --> 01:23:15,960
Speaker 1: a star quarterback with the Jaguars had essentially never had

1664
01:23:16,040 --> 01:23:20,360
Speaker 1: unless you want to call Mark Burnell that um. I

1665
01:23:20,439 --> 01:23:22,840
Speaker 1: was telling you this Greg a couple of days ago

1666
01:23:23,240 --> 01:23:27,400
Speaker 1: after in the after glow of that incredible ending for

1667
01:23:27,439 --> 01:23:31,120
Speaker 1: the Jaguars where Lawrence did kind of flip the switch

1668
01:23:31,160 --> 01:23:34,000
Speaker 1: and and it was his big arrival game, and I

1669
01:23:34,120 --> 01:23:35,800
Speaker 1: thought about, you know, when you talk about who are

1670
01:23:35,800 --> 01:23:39,600
Speaker 1: the generational quote unquote quarterbacks entering the league, and you

1671
01:23:39,640 --> 01:23:42,360
Speaker 1: know the frame my my football history frame, a lot

1672
01:23:42,360 --> 01:23:44,800
Speaker 1: of it obviously connects with the Jets. And I remember

1673
01:23:44,840 --> 01:23:48,280
Speaker 1: the nine season, which was a great year Jets history,

1674
01:23:48,320 --> 01:23:51,400
Speaker 1: where Bill Parcels had them rolling. They went twelve and four,

1675
01:23:51,760 --> 01:23:53,719
Speaker 1: got to the a f C title game. They played

1676
01:23:53,800 --> 01:23:57,719
Speaker 1: a one in eight Cults team on November fift night.

1677
01:23:57,760 --> 01:24:00,920
Speaker 1: I'll never forget it. Last play of the half, a

1678
01:24:00,960 --> 01:24:04,360
Speaker 1: long field goal attempt by the Colts was fielded in

1679
01:24:04,400 --> 01:24:07,519
Speaker 1: the back of the end zone by now the defensive

1680
01:24:07,520 --> 01:24:09,679
Speaker 1: coordinator of the Lions, then the cornerback for the Jets,

1681
01:24:09,720 --> 01:24:12,880
Speaker 1: Aaron Glenn, who returned it a hundred and eight yards

1682
01:24:13,400 --> 01:24:16,639
Speaker 1: for a touchdown. The roof was going off at Hansas

1683
01:24:16,720 --> 01:24:20,920
Speaker 1: Manor in Pearl River. And then Peyton Manning had his day.

1684
01:24:21,120 --> 01:24:23,800
Speaker 1: It was his moment. He got hot in the second half.

1685
01:24:23,800 --> 01:24:28,640
Speaker 1: They scored a touchdown late in the fourth quarter Colts one. Now,

1686
01:24:28,720 --> 01:24:31,679
Speaker 1: that season didn't end with a big roll down the stretch,

1687
01:24:31,920 --> 01:24:33,760
Speaker 1: but at the same time I remember that being kind

1688
01:24:33,760 --> 01:24:36,240
Speaker 1: of like the Peyton Manning, whoa Okay, this guy he

1689
01:24:36,280 --> 01:24:39,000
Speaker 1: could be the dude, and sure enough by he was

1690
01:24:39,040 --> 01:24:41,479
Speaker 1: a star. I'm not saying the travel launces is gonna

1691
01:24:41,479 --> 01:24:43,599
Speaker 1: be Peyton Manning, but I did you just get the

1692
01:24:43,640 --> 01:24:46,000
Speaker 1: feeling you see it that this is going to be

1693
01:24:46,040 --> 01:24:48,360
Speaker 1: the launching point for him and this is gonna be

1694
01:24:48,439 --> 01:24:51,519
Speaker 1: one of the best quarterbacks in football. Um, maybe this

1695
01:24:51,600 --> 01:24:54,519
Speaker 1: is putting too much into three weeks and specifically what

1696
01:24:54,600 --> 01:24:57,960
Speaker 1: happened on Sunday, but god, he has everything everything. I

1697
01:24:58,000 --> 01:24:59,800
Speaker 1: know they actually has to get better, but those are

1698
01:24:59,840 --> 01:25:02,120
Speaker 1: thing It's been better, though. I would say that's sort

1699
01:25:02,120 --> 01:25:04,519
Speaker 1: of been his defining trade these three weeks. So that's

1700
01:25:05,280 --> 01:25:07,639
Speaker 1: that's been impressive. I don't think he's gonna make as

1701
01:25:07,720 --> 01:25:13,720
Speaker 1: many crazy off script plays as Alan or Mahomes those

1702
01:25:13,760 --> 01:25:15,240
Speaker 1: types of play, and he's not gonna be the runner

1703
01:25:15,320 --> 01:25:17,280
Speaker 1: that that Jalen Hurts is. But I think what you're

1704
01:25:17,280 --> 01:25:20,760
Speaker 1: seeing is more now that he's decisive. You can just

1705
01:25:20,800 --> 01:25:23,479
Speaker 1: see that he can make any type of throw that

1706
01:25:23,520 --> 01:25:25,240
Speaker 1: you that you want and he can put it on

1707
01:25:25,280 --> 01:25:27,880
Speaker 1: the mind. And he's also he's not surrounded like some

1708
01:25:27,960 --> 01:25:30,360
Speaker 1: other young quarterbacks by star talent. I mean, he made

1709
01:25:30,439 --> 01:25:32,519
Speaker 1: z Jones look like Jerry Rice a weekly. I mean

1710
01:25:32,520 --> 01:25:36,000
Speaker 1: that's on z Jones too, who played great. But you've got, yeah,

1711
01:25:36,320 --> 01:25:38,320
Speaker 1: who's around him that's like you you could point to.

1712
01:25:38,479 --> 01:25:40,880
Speaker 1: Is like they've really built an offense full of stars.

1713
01:25:40,920 --> 01:25:43,519
Speaker 1: It's some nice pieces, but he's elevated the play of

1714
01:25:43,560 --> 01:25:45,519
Speaker 1: the people around him, and I think he has wiped

1715
01:25:45,560 --> 01:25:49,000
Speaker 1: away some of those sort of head scratching overthrows, where

1716
01:25:49,040 --> 01:25:52,240
Speaker 1: he also melted down on potential game winning drives, you know,

1717
01:25:52,360 --> 01:25:54,720
Speaker 1: week after a little those with the body fumbled right

1718
01:25:54,760 --> 01:25:57,000
Speaker 1: in that game winning drive. And yeah, that fumble kind

1719
01:25:57,000 --> 01:25:58,719
Speaker 1: of was a little overlooked in the in the hoopla,

1720
01:25:58,880 --> 01:26:01,439
Speaker 1: I'd agree with you that. But you just seeing tremendous

1721
01:26:01,479 --> 01:26:03,439
Speaker 1: growth that shows in the numbers, and it just shows

1722
01:26:03,439 --> 01:26:05,280
Speaker 1: in his actual play and he just looks the part.

1723
01:26:05,680 --> 01:26:08,120
Speaker 1: You know, it's crazy. I was thinking this is off topic,

1724
01:26:08,200 --> 01:26:13,120
Speaker 1: but draft class, I mean that's to uh, that's hurts

1725
01:26:13,240 --> 01:26:17,559
Speaker 1: right now. That's that's Herbert and that's Burrow. That's an

1726
01:26:17,560 --> 01:26:21,240
Speaker 1: amazing draft class. Right now. Herbert is ranked the lowest

1727
01:26:21,240 --> 01:26:23,240
Speaker 1: of all of them on QB Index. Four guys in

1728
01:26:23,280 --> 01:26:25,599
Speaker 1: one class. So can Lawrence get up to that level?

1729
01:26:25,640 --> 01:26:27,840
Speaker 1: I think he can. I'm not ready to say he's

1730
01:26:27,880 --> 01:26:29,839
Speaker 1: definitely gonna be, you know, one of the best quarterbacks

1731
01:26:29,880 --> 01:26:32,200
Speaker 1: in link. But there's nothing getting in his way. All right,

1732
01:26:32,320 --> 01:26:36,200
Speaker 1: let's move on. I will take Egan. All right, we

1733
01:26:36,320 --> 01:26:38,960
Speaker 1: ran out, we ran out. It's okay, I'll grab packers

1734
01:26:39,240 --> 01:26:42,559
Speaker 1: at Bear just getting grizzly. Yeah, it's Okay, though we're

1735
01:26:42,560 --> 01:26:44,760
Speaker 1: gonna we have so much good football, I don't mind

1736
01:26:44,840 --> 01:26:46,519
Speaker 1: taking a little a couple of dog games just to

1737
01:26:46,600 --> 01:26:48,200
Speaker 1: keep an eye on where all the great football is

1738
01:26:48,240 --> 01:26:52,360
Speaker 1: going on on screen. Three? Actually want you want to

1739
01:26:52,360 --> 01:26:55,160
Speaker 1: do that? Yeah, I'm gonna have screen. This is this

1740
01:26:55,160 --> 01:26:56,719
Speaker 1: is what's gonna look a little peak behind the curtain.

1741
01:26:56,760 --> 01:27:01,320
Speaker 1: Everybody that he's gonna have jets by makings on. You're

1742
01:27:01,520 --> 01:27:06,160
Speaker 1: the daddy, the listeners and your children another third person,

1743
01:27:06,800 --> 01:27:10,160
Speaker 1: and then you got my daddy, you got the packers

1744
01:27:10,160 --> 01:27:14,200
Speaker 1: and Bears on the secondary screen. I will be professionally

1745
01:27:14,240 --> 01:27:18,080
Speaker 1: keeping an eye on that, right and then, oh, Papa

1746
01:27:18,120 --> 01:27:20,760
Speaker 1: there is going to have I looked at Greg as

1747
01:27:20,800 --> 01:27:22,519
Speaker 1: I said that, and his eyes kind of lit up.

1748
01:27:23,160 --> 01:27:25,479
Speaker 1: You're also popular. You did seem to push back when

1749
01:27:25,520 --> 01:27:28,000
Speaker 1: I said you're not my daddy, as if you're saying, well,

1750
01:27:28,080 --> 01:27:30,639
Speaker 1: actually you don't know, but I am your daddy. I'm

1751
01:27:30,680 --> 01:27:33,519
Speaker 1: your father one day. One day you'll be like, you're right,

1752
01:27:33,640 --> 01:27:36,800
Speaker 1: you're my daddy the whole time, with your daddy and

1753
01:27:36,960 --> 01:27:41,519
Speaker 1: Papa Bear at the same time. Daddy, stop it. Frag's

1754
01:27:41,520 --> 01:27:43,920
Speaker 1: always welcome on the show. And then I'll watch whatever

1755
01:27:43,960 --> 01:27:46,559
Speaker 1: the Yeah, I'll watch Titans Eagles too. That will be

1756
01:27:46,560 --> 01:27:48,800
Speaker 1: on the third screen. This is a great Sunday. I mean,

1757
01:27:48,800 --> 01:27:51,360
Speaker 1: that's my game, right, that's just the fun. Keep an

1758
01:27:51,360 --> 01:27:55,000
Speaker 1: eye on it. You need to ask my permission to

1759
01:27:55,040 --> 01:27:58,960
Speaker 1: watch my game. May I have permission, daddie, since you

1760
01:27:59,040 --> 01:28:03,320
Speaker 1: just called me that. Yes, it's getting weird. Packers at

1761
01:28:03,360 --> 01:28:07,120
Speaker 1: bears from Soldier Field. I am working under the assumption

1762
01:28:07,200 --> 01:28:10,479
Speaker 1: that Aaron Rodgers will play, but who knows Rogers. Obviously

1763
01:28:10,600 --> 01:28:14,799
Speaker 1: there's the rib issue, um kind of You know, Aaron,

1764
01:28:14,920 --> 01:28:17,400
Speaker 1: you gotta give him this. He knows how to stay

1765
01:28:17,400 --> 01:28:19,720
Speaker 1: in the conversation. He knows the answers to give that

1766
01:28:19,760 --> 01:28:23,920
Speaker 1: will keep him in the headline. So on the McAfee show,

1767
01:28:24,320 --> 01:28:27,080
Speaker 1: he said that the scans came back good and he

1768
01:28:27,120 --> 01:28:29,760
Speaker 1: intends to play blah blah blah. Then the reporters asked

1769
01:28:29,800 --> 01:28:31,800
Speaker 1: him about what are your thoughts about the idea of

1770
01:28:31,960 --> 01:28:33,640
Speaker 1: Jordan's love getting a look if you guys are at

1771
01:28:33,640 --> 01:28:35,880
Speaker 1: a contention, and he he said he was, you know,

1772
01:28:35,920 --> 01:28:37,720
Speaker 1: open minded. I guess if they were to come to

1773
01:28:37,800 --> 01:28:39,639
Speaker 1: him with that, which I don't know if I believe,

1774
01:28:40,000 --> 01:28:43,160
Speaker 1: but anyway, it would made for another headline. Uh. If

1775
01:28:43,240 --> 01:28:45,360
Speaker 1: Rogers doesn't play, this game is actually a little bit

1776
01:28:45,479 --> 01:28:49,519
Speaker 1: more interesting because of Jordan's Love getting a full start

1777
01:28:49,560 --> 01:28:52,320
Speaker 1: against a terrible There's just no imagine that comment being

1778
01:28:52,360 --> 01:28:55,600
Speaker 1: ushered in August, right. Uh, there's no meat on the

1779
01:28:55,640 --> 01:28:58,240
Speaker 1: bone Chicago. Justin Fields isn't playing, and I don't know

1780
01:28:58,320 --> 01:29:00,080
Speaker 1: what his status is, but the Bears have a I

1781
01:29:00,720 --> 01:29:02,960
Speaker 1: next week. It doesn't make any sense to me to

1782
01:29:03,080 --> 01:29:06,280
Speaker 1: play him, uh this week, but we'll see what happens. Anyway,

1783
01:29:06,439 --> 01:29:09,080
Speaker 1: if Rogers plays, I'm locking up the Packers because I

1784
01:29:09,120 --> 01:29:14,560
Speaker 1: think it sets up ideally for a Rogers four touchdown performance,

1785
01:29:14,640 --> 01:29:18,160
Speaker 1: and you know exactly how he wants it in his mind. Uh.

1786
01:29:18,200 --> 01:29:20,400
Speaker 1: And if he doesn't play, I'll probably move off the lock.

1787
01:29:20,800 --> 01:29:23,559
Speaker 1: But uh, we'll see, we'll see. That's where we're at

1788
01:29:23,600 --> 01:29:26,559
Speaker 1: on this game. I also, I'm locking up the Packers,

1789
01:29:26,560 --> 01:29:29,360
Speaker 1: and I don't need to throw in any Rogers plays

1790
01:29:29,439 --> 01:29:33,320
Speaker 1: or moved off the lock that we made last Thursday.

1791
01:29:33,479 --> 01:29:36,040
Speaker 1: Just telling you the truth. I'm liking them up with

1792
01:29:36,120 --> 01:29:39,000
Speaker 1: Jordan's Love, I'm locking him up with Aaron Rodgers. I'm

1793
01:29:39,040 --> 01:29:41,360
Speaker 1: locking it up with Scott Tolzine. If they take him

1794
01:29:41,360 --> 01:29:44,240
Speaker 1: out of I don't like you and I. The lock

1795
01:29:44,680 --> 01:29:46,880
Speaker 1: that works Greg and Mark I didn't do a lock

1796
01:29:46,960 --> 01:29:48,800
Speaker 1: does not really work very well in the DAN, and

1797
01:29:49,800 --> 01:29:51,360
Speaker 1: this will be a good test for this is a

1798
01:29:51,400 --> 01:29:53,360
Speaker 1: show me Sunday for the loss. I don't know if

1799
01:29:53,400 --> 01:29:56,479
Speaker 1: we've done it before. This Bears team and I locked

1800
01:29:56,479 --> 01:29:59,040
Speaker 1: more against teams than I do lock four teams. And

1801
01:29:59,080 --> 01:30:02,360
Speaker 1: the Packers have only won one of their last eight games.

1802
01:30:02,439 --> 01:30:05,599
Speaker 1: I believe they're one in seven since starting three in one,

1803
01:30:05,680 --> 01:30:08,360
Speaker 1: so you know, you could feel more comfortable about them.

1804
01:30:08,360 --> 01:30:10,360
Speaker 1: But I think they've solved a lot of their offensive problems.

1805
01:30:10,360 --> 01:30:13,040
Speaker 1: I do expect Rogers to play, but I really was

1806
01:30:13,040 --> 01:30:16,519
Speaker 1: gonna lock it up love versus the Bears because I

1807
01:30:16,560 --> 01:30:19,160
Speaker 1: think the Packers have solved their offensive problems in the

1808
01:30:19,160 --> 01:30:21,320
Speaker 1: way that their offensive line is healthier now, they've they've

1809
01:30:21,360 --> 01:30:23,639
Speaker 1: protected pretty well. We know the running games good, they've

1810
01:30:23,760 --> 01:30:29,040
Speaker 1: been run blocking better. Watson has really you might get

1811
01:30:29,120 --> 01:30:32,160
Speaker 1: Romeo Dobbs black back this week, and the Bears defense

1812
01:30:32,240 --> 01:30:34,320
Speaker 1: was already the worst in the league, and then they

1813
01:30:34,360 --> 01:30:37,280
Speaker 1: lost Eddie Jackson, the best player in their secondary. They

1814
01:30:37,400 --> 01:30:41,080
Speaker 1: also didn't have Brisker or Kyler Gordon. Their two rookies

1815
01:30:41,120 --> 01:30:43,559
Speaker 1: who are starting have had good moments and are two

1816
01:30:43,560 --> 01:30:45,360
Speaker 1: of their better started. So you went from one of

1817
01:30:45,360 --> 01:30:48,160
Speaker 1: the worst defenses in the league too, even worse than

1818
01:30:48,200 --> 01:30:50,519
Speaker 1: that in the secondary. And I know the Packers defense

1819
01:30:50,560 --> 01:30:53,000
Speaker 1: has struggled too, But I just feel like this is

1820
01:30:53,040 --> 01:30:55,240
Speaker 1: a nice get right game or it's a nice breakout

1821
01:30:55,280 --> 01:30:57,320
Speaker 1: game for Jordan's love. Either way, I feel good about

1822
01:30:57,320 --> 01:30:59,599
Speaker 1: the Packers like I don't. I don't take too much

1823
01:30:59,600 --> 01:31:02,599
Speaker 1: in like the early season encounters between some of these teams,

1824
01:31:02,640 --> 01:31:05,479
Speaker 1: but sustainably for Chicago on offense. The one way I

1825
01:31:05,520 --> 01:31:08,200
Speaker 1: see them into this is that back in Week two

1826
01:31:08,760 --> 01:31:10,920
Speaker 1: they rumbled over Green Bay for a hundred and eighty

1827
01:31:11,000 --> 01:31:12,880
Speaker 1: yards on the ground that was only twenty yards from

1828
01:31:12,880 --> 01:31:16,400
Speaker 1: justin fields. That was that was their distinct true running game.

1829
01:31:16,680 --> 01:31:18,840
Speaker 1: And the Packers are coming off a game where they

1830
01:31:18,840 --> 01:31:21,720
Speaker 1: allowed three hundred and sixty three yards rushing. You know

1831
01:31:21,720 --> 01:31:24,400
Speaker 1: who the Bears are. The Bears are that classic late

1832
01:31:24,439 --> 01:31:27,639
Speaker 1: season team, and we saw it their last game last week.

1833
01:31:27,640 --> 01:31:29,640
Speaker 1: At the middle ends. They might put up a bit

1834
01:31:29,680 --> 01:31:32,160
Speaker 1: of a fight early on, but if you if you

1835
01:31:32,160 --> 01:31:34,040
Speaker 1: punch them in the in the gut, or if you

1836
01:31:34,040 --> 01:31:36,479
Speaker 1: give them a shot to the jaw at some point

1837
01:31:36,840 --> 01:31:39,240
Speaker 1: before the first half, they're just ready to go. They

1838
01:31:39,240 --> 01:31:41,280
Speaker 1: were broken defense, although I'd say the same thing about

1839
01:31:41,280 --> 01:31:44,559
Speaker 1: the Packers. They're a bad team that once you let

1840
01:31:44,600 --> 01:31:46,000
Speaker 1: them know this is gonna be a long day, that

1841
01:31:46,160 --> 01:31:50,040
Speaker 1: they're not ready for the battle. Fields has been practicing

1842
01:31:50,200 --> 01:31:53,320
Speaker 1: and Simeons not. So you would think Fields would have

1843
01:31:53,320 --> 01:31:55,880
Speaker 1: a good chance to play, but they also could be

1844
01:31:56,680 --> 01:31:58,280
Speaker 1: playing a camera. But one of the reasons why I

1845
01:31:58,680 --> 01:32:00,559
Speaker 1: felt good locking it no matter who is playing or

1846
01:32:00,560 --> 01:32:03,000
Speaker 1: whatever is I just feel like they're going to be

1847
01:32:03,040 --> 01:32:05,720
Speaker 1: careful with him. If he does play, yes, he they're

1848
01:32:05,760 --> 01:32:10,120
Speaker 1: not gonna have as many design runs and then they're

1849
01:32:10,160 --> 01:32:12,680
Speaker 1: just a little punch. I'd argue, you don't even put

1850
01:32:12,760 --> 01:32:14,680
Speaker 1: him into into dangerous way, you know, And then I

1851
01:32:14,720 --> 01:32:18,439
Speaker 1: love locking against Nathan Peterman is only three though. By

1852
01:32:18,439 --> 01:32:22,640
Speaker 1: the way, if Rogers fields, because of the oblique that

1853
01:32:22,680 --> 01:32:25,040
Speaker 1: he played through on Sunday, yeah, so I think he

1854
01:32:25,040 --> 01:32:28,160
Speaker 1: would probably it probably would be Simeon starting. Who can

1855
01:32:28,200 --> 01:32:30,320
Speaker 1: I just say one thing, like you guys locking up.

1856
01:32:30,360 --> 01:32:34,160
Speaker 1: If Rogers plays, and if Justin Fields is one half

1857
01:32:34,200 --> 01:32:35,640
Speaker 1: of what he is and it's not used on the

1858
01:32:35,640 --> 01:32:37,960
Speaker 1: ground or doesn't play at all, I mean to go

1859
01:32:38,080 --> 01:32:40,040
Speaker 1: find a mirror on that one. It's a three point

1860
01:32:40,080 --> 01:32:42,840
Speaker 1: spread spread. I don't care what the spread is. I mean,

1861
01:32:42,840 --> 01:32:46,599
Speaker 1: you just have actually then the one we gave Nick,

1862
01:32:48,520 --> 01:32:50,519
Speaker 1: I don't have to be proud of your lot buried.

1863
01:32:50,560 --> 01:32:52,880
Speaker 1: Green Bay all season is a bad team that needs

1864
01:32:52,920 --> 01:32:55,559
Speaker 1: to float away. And now you're saying, I'm saying if

1865
01:32:55,560 --> 01:32:58,400
Speaker 1: it's Aaron Rodgers first, like tread or Simeon or something.

1866
01:32:58,479 --> 01:33:01,559
Speaker 1: They've lost seven of eight. Yeah, the Packers, they were

1867
01:33:01,560 --> 01:33:03,760
Speaker 1: three and one. Remember they think I think you So,

1868
01:33:05,680 --> 01:33:09,439
Speaker 1: I'm just saying I feel good. I've been loyal to

1869
01:33:09,479 --> 01:33:13,080
Speaker 1: the Packers even through all the struggles here, struggle to

1870
01:33:13,120 --> 01:33:16,720
Speaker 1: respoil the football, I struggle to respect that. The choice

1871
01:33:17,080 --> 01:33:19,519
Speaker 1: I loved in the mirror, I'd see is a nice

1872
01:33:19,960 --> 01:33:25,320
Speaker 1: fresh cut. I'd see some beautiful makeup. The lack itself away?

1873
01:33:25,439 --> 01:33:28,000
Speaker 1: Why is it put on Tanya down there? Everyone's doing

1874
01:33:28,040 --> 01:33:30,760
Speaker 1: a great job today making us look well. I'm glad

1875
01:33:30,800 --> 01:33:33,040
Speaker 1: that you're pleased with yourself. I just wanted a question

1876
01:33:33,080 --> 01:33:35,280
Speaker 1: where Greg got his line from, because the source I

1877
01:33:35,400 --> 01:33:38,640
Speaker 1: use says packers minds five as of business. Where this

1878
01:33:38,640 --> 01:33:40,760
Speaker 1: thing is going? Maybe it's moved. It was three? When

1879
01:33:41,240 --> 01:33:46,000
Speaker 1: where good? Good do you do you want to move

1880
01:33:46,040 --> 01:33:48,040
Speaker 1: off your Thursday night luck. I know you're nervous about it,

1881
01:33:48,120 --> 01:33:50,320
Speaker 1: not not even in the least. Okay, so don't worry

1882
01:33:50,320 --> 01:33:53,360
Speaker 1: about oarlocks. Mind your own business. Mind business. I mean,

1883
01:33:53,479 --> 01:33:55,680
Speaker 1: how many times on the show have you come at

1884
01:33:55,720 --> 01:33:58,599
Speaker 1: other people about their luck? Like that's I'm simply giving

1885
01:33:58,640 --> 01:34:02,439
Speaker 1: you a taste of your own medicine in your business.

1886
01:34:02,439 --> 01:34:04,439
Speaker 1: And my guess is graver the line has moved up

1887
01:34:04,439 --> 01:34:07,880
Speaker 1: with the confidence that Rogers is playing. And how about this, Greggy,

1888
01:34:07,960 --> 01:34:10,280
Speaker 1: if we do lock lock Up together, and I'm not

1889
01:34:10,320 --> 01:34:12,680
Speaker 1: worried about not getting again the standings on you one

1890
01:34:12,680 --> 01:34:14,160
Speaker 1: way or the other, because it's still a lot of

1891
01:34:14,160 --> 01:34:16,000
Speaker 1: bottle play and I'm only one game behind. I didn't

1892
01:34:16,000 --> 01:34:18,759
Speaker 1: have a backup game this weekend. We become the lock Daddies.

1893
01:34:19,320 --> 01:34:21,920
Speaker 1: If you get this, okay, I like that. You have

1894
01:34:21,920 --> 01:34:25,800
Speaker 1: no loyalty. We were the locks. Yeah, I'd rather be

1895
01:34:25,800 --> 01:34:29,080
Speaker 1: a lock daddy than a lock. Yeah. Maybe we become

1896
01:34:29,080 --> 01:34:32,360
Speaker 1: the locks Addies next Okay, then we'll do that, whatever

1897
01:34:32,400 --> 01:34:35,400
Speaker 1: you do next week. The show getting more and more stupid.

1898
01:34:36,080 --> 01:34:40,120
Speaker 1: I mean, we're into like our it's definitely we're going

1899
01:34:40,160 --> 01:34:45,519
Speaker 1: hard on things that amuse us, but not the listeners. Mark, Yeah,

1900
01:34:45,920 --> 01:34:50,040
Speaker 1: you're a pick, all right, I am gonna go. Oh

1901
01:34:50,120 --> 01:34:54,200
Speaker 1: these are ugly. We're gonna roll through these at Ravens.

1902
01:34:54,840 --> 01:34:56,880
Speaker 1: At least the Ravens are in that game. Who are

1903
01:34:56,920 --> 01:34:59,120
Speaker 1: you Ravens. Yeah. All the remaining games, by the way,

1904
01:34:59,160 --> 01:35:03,120
Speaker 1: including this, with the re remaining something hideous about every game,

1905
01:35:03,280 --> 01:35:06,519
Speaker 1: usually one team specifically. No, that's true, raven has really

1906
01:35:06,560 --> 01:35:08,600
Speaker 1: been struggling in the red zone. I think if you

1907
01:35:08,600 --> 01:35:10,360
Speaker 1: want to look at this and say, this is actually

1908
01:35:10,400 --> 01:35:13,920
Speaker 1: a good test for Baltimore because Denver, if anything, their

1909
01:35:13,960 --> 01:35:17,360
Speaker 1: defense has been outstanding. I mean, we we talked about

1910
01:35:17,400 --> 01:35:20,519
Speaker 1: it last week. They punched eighteen points in their first

1911
01:35:20,560 --> 01:35:22,280
Speaker 1: ten games. It would have been nine and one. Because

1912
01:35:22,320 --> 01:35:24,840
Speaker 1: the defense is has a right to be I rate.

1913
01:35:24,960 --> 01:35:27,840
Speaker 1: I mean, we saw Mike Purcell burning off the field

1914
01:35:27,960 --> 01:35:30,160
Speaker 1: last week and basically going right up to Russell Wilson

1915
01:35:30,200 --> 01:35:31,800
Speaker 1: and saying, we don't know what he said, but just

1916
01:35:31,840 --> 01:35:33,760
Speaker 1: get this thing going. And then I thought it was

1917
01:35:33,840 --> 01:35:38,639
Speaker 1: most telling that in the background, quietly as Nathaniel Hacketts

1918
01:35:38,680 --> 01:35:40,519
Speaker 1: sort of just looking away and not wanting to be

1919
01:35:40,560 --> 01:35:42,000
Speaker 1: part of it. It's like, what's going on with the

1920
01:35:42,000 --> 01:35:44,160
Speaker 1: Denver Broncos in the offense. We've talked about it every week.

1921
01:35:44,320 --> 01:35:47,639
Speaker 1: Their season on offense cannot end fast enough. I'm much

1922
01:35:47,640 --> 01:35:51,640
Speaker 1: more concerned with Baltimore going out here and winning a

1923
01:35:51,640 --> 01:35:54,280
Speaker 1: game like this, where you show the on offense you

1924
01:35:54,320 --> 01:35:57,080
Speaker 1: can be more consistent, not blow a league or lead.

1925
01:35:57,120 --> 01:36:00,599
Speaker 1: I just think that Lamar Jackson, it's maybe a little

1926
01:36:00,600 --> 01:36:03,000
Speaker 1: bit too much weight around him. You're a little two

1927
01:36:03,040 --> 01:36:06,160
Speaker 1: weapons pour on offense. They're asking him to do so much,

1928
01:36:06,400 --> 01:36:08,360
Speaker 1: and it's not something I trust that they're gonna be

1929
01:36:08,360 --> 01:36:10,160
Speaker 1: able to take through January. I think people have said

1930
01:36:10,400 --> 01:36:12,720
Speaker 1: the Ravens just gonna better and better roll through and

1931
01:36:12,720 --> 01:36:14,759
Speaker 1: win this division. I don't think you're winning the division.

1932
01:36:14,800 --> 01:36:19,240
Speaker 1: First of all, I think they though they blow a

1933
01:36:19,320 --> 01:36:21,920
Speaker 1: late against the Russell Wilson Broncos, come on, okay, but

1934
01:36:22,000 --> 01:36:23,760
Speaker 1: we said the schedule is so easy. Then they went

1935
01:36:23,760 --> 01:36:25,920
Speaker 1: out and lost to the Jaguars. Okay. So it's just

1936
01:36:26,080 --> 01:36:28,080
Speaker 1: like you have to go handle your own business. I

1937
01:36:28,160 --> 01:36:31,280
Speaker 1: don't difference between the Jaguars and the Broncos, who are

1938
01:36:31,800 --> 01:36:34,120
Speaker 1: dead as but you have the good Broncos defense, so

1939
01:36:34,280 --> 01:36:36,799
Speaker 1: you're not going out Here's the thing, though, I've noticed

1940
01:36:36,840 --> 01:36:39,080
Speaker 1: a little decline here from the Broncos defense too, which

1941
01:36:39,080 --> 01:36:41,680
Speaker 1: makes sense. They're injured up front, and they've traded they

1942
01:36:41,760 --> 01:36:45,639
Speaker 1: traded away Chub. They've been closer to average, I would say,

1943
01:36:45,760 --> 01:36:49,599
Speaker 1: over the last three four weeks, and you just don't

1944
01:36:49,640 --> 01:36:52,840
Speaker 1: Baltimore's offense, you don't need much. The Broncos offense right

1945
01:36:52,880 --> 01:36:55,559
Speaker 1: now is on pace to have be the lowest scoring

1946
01:36:55,640 --> 01:36:58,960
Speaker 1: offense since the two since the two thousand Browns. Man,

1947
01:36:59,360 --> 01:37:02,560
Speaker 1: I mean, it's like crazy. They're the worst offense in

1948
01:37:02,720 --> 01:37:05,400
Speaker 1: twenty years. They had two forty six yards against the

1949
01:37:05,439 --> 01:37:08,639
Speaker 1: Carolina team that's in the top five for the draft.

1950
01:37:08,800 --> 01:37:11,080
Speaker 1: And and Russell Wilson, as we know, is struggled in

1951
01:37:11,240 --> 01:37:13,960
Speaker 1: so many ways this year. Bill Barnwell, friend of the

1952
01:37:14,040 --> 01:37:16,560
Speaker 1: Show over at ESPN, had a great right up on

1953
01:37:16,720 --> 01:37:20,080
Speaker 1: all the things that are wrong with Russell Wilson's season,

1954
01:37:20,600 --> 01:37:24,240
Speaker 1: and one thing that really jumped out um of all

1955
01:37:24,280 --> 01:37:28,519
Speaker 1: the things to me. As a red zone passer, Russell

1956
01:37:28,560 --> 01:37:31,320
Speaker 1: Wilson in the past decade was one of the best

1957
01:37:31,360 --> 01:37:34,360
Speaker 1: in football year after year after year when he was

1958
01:37:34,439 --> 01:37:38,120
Speaker 1: the quarterback, they found a way to score. In fact,

1959
01:37:38,280 --> 01:37:41,479
Speaker 1: he had a ninety one point nine QBR last season,

1960
01:37:41,520 --> 01:37:43,559
Speaker 1: which by the way wasn't a great season for Russell Wilson,

1961
01:37:43,640 --> 01:37:45,400
Speaker 1: it still was good enough to be in the top

1962
01:37:45,479 --> 01:37:48,920
Speaker 1: ten in the league. UH. In this season, his first year,

1963
01:37:49,040 --> 01:37:51,479
Speaker 1: through ten games of the Broncos, he's dipped from nine

1964
01:37:51,840 --> 01:37:57,160
Speaker 1: point nine to six point three QBR in the red zone.

1965
01:37:57,360 --> 01:37:59,559
Speaker 1: There are so many things wrong with him, but they're

1966
01:37:59,720 --> 01:38:05,040
Speaker 1: a salute staggering inability to get it done. UH. In

1967
01:38:05,200 --> 01:38:08,639
Speaker 1: that area of the field, it's head scratching. He has

1968
01:38:09,080 --> 01:38:12,559
Speaker 1: too fewer touchdowns than Carson Wentz, who has not played

1969
01:38:12,640 --> 01:38:15,760
Speaker 1: since Week six. There were that were those reports a

1970
01:38:15,800 --> 01:38:18,120
Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago. Glass of milk, A glass of milk,

1971
01:38:18,280 --> 01:38:20,600
Speaker 1: A man, a man just essentially no more than a

1972
01:38:20,640 --> 01:38:23,560
Speaker 1: glass of milk. There were those reports that that that

1973
01:38:24,320 --> 01:38:27,360
Speaker 1: Wilson is so lost that he was calling out Seahawks

1974
01:38:27,400 --> 01:38:31,479
Speaker 1: audibles in essentially on the field in games with the Broncos.

1975
01:38:31,479 --> 01:38:33,519
Speaker 1: And this is a tough matchup and the Ravens, I

1976
01:38:33,600 --> 01:38:35,439
Speaker 1: know they've blown some leads, but I think I think

1977
01:38:35,479 --> 01:38:37,360
Speaker 1: they're a good defense. I thought it was interesting this

1978
01:38:37,479 --> 01:38:41,280
Speaker 1: week Greg Roman UH got an interview permission to get

1979
01:38:41,280 --> 01:38:45,519
Speaker 1: an interview their offensive coordinator with Stanford, and I do

1980
01:38:45,720 --> 01:38:50,200
Speaker 1: wonder what the Ravens think about that, whether like they've

1981
01:38:50,240 --> 01:38:52,599
Speaker 1: really built this offense in such a unique way around

1982
01:38:52,720 --> 01:38:55,680
Speaker 1: Romans scheme and Lamar, and I feel like it might

1983
01:38:55,760 --> 01:38:58,759
Speaker 1: be time for them to have to have a break anyways,

1984
01:38:58,800 --> 01:39:00,160
Speaker 1: and I and my guess is they wouldn't be that

1985
01:39:00,400 --> 01:39:02,880
Speaker 1: sad if he left for Stanford. He would change their

1986
01:39:02,880 --> 01:39:05,320
Speaker 1: whole team. Though I feel like this is there's like

1987
01:39:05,680 --> 01:39:09,200
Speaker 1: vague pings of deja vu about you dinging Greg Roman.

1988
01:39:09,400 --> 01:39:11,960
Speaker 1: I'm not really digging Greg Roman. I think you can

1989
01:39:12,080 --> 01:39:15,960
Speaker 1: say in San Francisco he has a certain way that

1990
01:39:16,080 --> 01:39:19,200
Speaker 1: he plays and it had its moment and they're not

1991
01:39:19,400 --> 01:39:21,479
Speaker 1: They're not a bad offense, but they've done it such

1992
01:39:21,479 --> 01:39:24,160
Speaker 1: a unique certain way around his running game this for

1993
01:39:24,240 --> 01:39:26,120
Speaker 1: this long than it might be time to kind of

1994
01:39:26,240 --> 01:39:27,920
Speaker 1: a bit of a shelf life with his offense and

1995
01:39:28,439 --> 01:39:32,680
Speaker 1: stopped to stop. Yeah, Lamar exited practice on Wednesday, by

1996
01:39:32,680 --> 01:39:34,320
Speaker 1: the way, with some type of quad issue. I don't

1997
01:39:34,320 --> 01:39:36,880
Speaker 1: know he's back on Thursday. It was precautionary and he

1998
01:39:37,000 --> 01:39:40,040
Speaker 1: should be. Okay, I I gotta push back a little bit,

1999
01:39:40,080 --> 01:39:43,760
Speaker 1: Greg My. I'm so shaken by Baltimore's defense after I

2000
01:39:43,800 --> 01:39:45,360
Speaker 1: what I saw at the end of that game. I

2001
01:39:45,479 --> 01:39:47,960
Speaker 1: just find it hard to trust them. They're good. I

2002
01:39:48,040 --> 01:39:50,800
Speaker 1: think they're good defense. I think they're different than they

2003
01:39:50,840 --> 01:39:54,200
Speaker 1: were for six weeks. They've collapsed like no other team

2004
01:39:54,240 --> 01:39:55,960
Speaker 1: in four of these games, and it's just like, why

2005
01:39:56,000 --> 01:39:58,960
Speaker 1: are we trusting them to go suddenly rip off three

2006
01:39:59,040 --> 01:40:02,200
Speaker 1: wins in January? No? I feel like they're destined to

2007
01:40:02,280 --> 01:40:04,960
Speaker 1: lose a heartbreaker in January, and I think they'll get there. Greg,

2008
01:40:05,560 --> 01:40:09,479
Speaker 1: you have the penultimate pick? Oh? I do? And uh,

2009
01:40:09,560 --> 01:40:14,439
Speaker 1: I'll take Steelers Falcons upset still on the board. What

2010
01:40:14,760 --> 01:40:19,160
Speaker 1: else is there? Seattle at the Rams we little gino fetish.

2011
01:40:19,640 --> 01:40:22,400
Speaker 1: It's a fair point. I probably should have too, because

2012
01:40:22,439 --> 01:40:26,000
Speaker 1: of you can still watching now the early slate can

2013
01:40:26,040 --> 01:40:29,280
Speaker 1: I'm switching my pick. I'm going Seahawks Rams. I'm sorry,

2014
01:40:30,640 --> 01:40:35,519
Speaker 1: was already turned in? Is that doesn't it's gonna it's

2015
01:40:35,560 --> 01:40:38,360
Speaker 1: gonna mess up my Sunday? A second? Wait, a second?

2016
01:40:38,439 --> 01:40:41,559
Speaker 1: Justin what was the official ruling on this? I thought

2017
01:40:41,600 --> 01:40:44,560
Speaker 1: the card had been turned, but I don't know. You

2018
01:40:44,640 --> 01:40:47,439
Speaker 1: guys make the rules, not me. Wow. You know we've

2019
01:40:47,479 --> 01:40:49,960
Speaker 1: got like the whole Nick Shook factor, and I don't

2020
01:40:49,960 --> 01:40:53,400
Speaker 1: want to I'm impartial because I can't be involved because

2021
01:40:53,400 --> 01:40:56,400
Speaker 1: I have the next pick mark you. Gregg has had

2022
01:40:56,560 --> 01:40:59,000
Speaker 1: such um, it's been such a disaster today for you

2023
01:40:59,600 --> 01:41:01,760
Speaker 1: that if this could be a little halo, a little

2024
01:41:01,840 --> 01:41:03,439
Speaker 1: win for you, something that gives you a little bit

2025
01:41:03,479 --> 01:41:06,680
Speaker 1: of joy. All, okay, I'll green light. I will all right,

2026
01:41:07,000 --> 01:41:11,719
Speaker 1: there you go. We don't even know what I want.

2027
01:41:12,000 --> 01:41:14,439
Speaker 1: I don't know what I want. Like the draft, Nicks

2028
01:41:14,520 --> 01:41:20,040
Speaker 1: understand that the Rams can be quick uh conversation because

2029
01:41:20,080 --> 01:41:23,320
Speaker 1: there's no Aaron Donald in this game. There's no Matthew

2030
01:41:23,360 --> 01:41:26,599
Speaker 1: Stafford in this game. Obviously, there's no Cooper Cover, Aaron

2031
01:41:27,000 --> 01:41:30,880
Speaker 1: Uh or Allen Robinson. The offensive line maybe is gonna

2032
01:41:31,040 --> 01:41:33,639
Speaker 1: start a new lineup for the twelfth straight week, which

2033
01:41:33,720 --> 01:41:37,519
Speaker 1: is a record. It's a perfect time for a get

2034
01:41:37,600 --> 01:41:40,719
Speaker 1: right game. I think Bryce Perkins showed enough last week

2035
01:41:41,360 --> 01:41:44,320
Speaker 1: that I think they can start building the offense around

2036
01:41:44,800 --> 01:41:47,200
Speaker 1: his skill set in a way that might be tough

2037
01:41:47,280 --> 01:41:50,080
Speaker 1: to prepare for. They have gotten a little bit of

2038
01:41:50,120 --> 01:41:53,560
Speaker 1: the running game going, and the Seattle defense is concerning

2039
01:41:53,880 --> 01:41:57,080
Speaker 1: enough that you think Perkins might be able to move

2040
01:41:57,160 --> 01:41:59,760
Speaker 1: the ball a little bit, and they could be feisty

2041
01:42:00,400 --> 01:42:02,400
Speaker 1: if their defense shows up. I just don't know if

2042
01:42:02,439 --> 01:42:04,160
Speaker 1: their defense is going to be showing up that much

2043
01:42:04,240 --> 01:42:07,479
Speaker 1: without Aaron Donald it did last week. They have all

2044
01:42:07,560 --> 01:42:10,360
Speaker 1: season too off season to talk about this, But doesn't

2045
01:42:10,360 --> 01:42:14,280
Speaker 1: it make so much sense? The Rams obviously now are

2046
01:42:14,320 --> 01:42:19,120
Speaker 1: in a heap of trouble organizationally because the roster has thin,

2047
01:42:19,320 --> 01:42:24,400
Speaker 1: They've been unsuccessful this season. Uh, they don't have draft picks.

2048
01:42:24,960 --> 01:42:27,800
Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford. Wouldn't it make so much sense for them

2049
01:42:27,840 --> 01:42:30,080
Speaker 1: to trade him in the off season at this point,

2050
01:42:30,240 --> 01:42:33,120
Speaker 1: recoup some draft picks and start building whatever is the

2051
01:42:33,200 --> 01:42:35,760
Speaker 1: next phase in this in this team's And then you

2052
01:42:35,840 --> 01:42:38,120
Speaker 1: think that Matt Stafford back on the trade market in

2053
01:42:38,160 --> 01:42:39,720
Speaker 1: the off season. There are a number of teams that

2054
01:42:39,800 --> 01:42:45,120
Speaker 1: he makes sense on, including mine. Interesting, that would be amazing,

2055
01:42:46,640 --> 01:42:49,479
Speaker 1: But I think this is forever home. I would be

2056
01:42:50,200 --> 01:42:55,000
Speaker 1: I would expect you and retire rather than hanging out.

2057
01:42:55,040 --> 01:42:57,720
Speaker 1: There is a there's just something weird, gonna just gott

2058
01:42:57,760 --> 01:43:00,720
Speaker 1: a vibe. Retirement or new team. Don't think you want

2059
01:43:00,760 --> 01:43:04,080
Speaker 1: to play football again if it wasn't for McVeigh and

2060
01:43:04,680 --> 01:43:06,680
Speaker 1: in this team, and I think they don't want to

2061
01:43:06,880 --> 01:43:10,880
Speaker 1: keep them because hey, it doesn't hello, it's Kenneth Walker.

2062
01:43:11,560 --> 01:43:14,040
Speaker 1: Last two games seventeen yards rushing twenty six. I love

2063
01:43:14,160 --> 01:43:16,559
Speaker 1: as a runner. It's like, let's really at yeah, really,

2064
01:43:16,640 --> 01:43:19,040
Speaker 1: three out of four? This is I know, this is

2065
01:43:19,080 --> 01:43:20,680
Speaker 1: a game they should take care of. It's out of

2066
01:43:20,720 --> 01:43:24,000
Speaker 1: the locks zone, of course, but they need to improve

2067
01:43:24,360 --> 01:43:27,120
Speaker 1: their pass rush, their defense, the running game. They've gotten

2068
01:43:27,160 --> 01:43:29,559
Speaker 1: into some bad habits. They are not guaranteed by any

2069
01:43:29,640 --> 01:43:32,160
Speaker 1: means to make the NFC playoffs, so they need to

2070
01:43:32,200 --> 01:43:36,599
Speaker 1: go get a seven win. I enjoyed Juno Smith saying

2071
01:43:36,680 --> 01:43:40,840
Speaker 1: this week that the Seahawks are adjusting UH to life,

2072
01:43:41,280 --> 01:43:45,679
Speaker 1: going from UH the hunter to the hunted. The six

2073
01:43:45,760 --> 01:43:48,640
Speaker 1: and five Seahawks listen, They've listen, They've earned it, and

2074
01:43:48,720 --> 01:43:52,200
Speaker 1: this is who they are now will face if it

2075
01:43:52,280 --> 01:43:54,519
Speaker 1: will face Bobby Wagner this week, A little would be

2076
01:43:54,600 --> 01:43:56,680
Speaker 1: a bigger deal if the Rams weren't a disaster. I

2077
01:43:56,760 --> 01:43:59,000
Speaker 1: guess what he's saying is they lost as a favorite

2078
01:43:59,080 --> 01:44:03,160
Speaker 1: last week and now their favorite again Hunter two hunted

2079
01:44:03,560 --> 01:44:07,479
Speaker 1: the Seattle Seahawks. I mean if that defense, by the way,

2080
01:44:07,920 --> 01:44:12,160
Speaker 1: struggles in this game, perfect get well games. I was

2081
01:44:12,200 --> 01:44:14,439
Speaker 1: a little worried about it until the Donald news, just

2082
01:44:14,560 --> 01:44:17,200
Speaker 1: because I don't know. All right, let's close it out

2083
01:44:17,240 --> 01:44:22,000
Speaker 1: with Steelers at Falcons. Could be better, it could be worse.

2084
01:44:22,560 --> 01:44:24,800
Speaker 1: I don't hate that game. I kind of hate it.

2085
01:44:24,840 --> 01:44:28,280
Speaker 1: Actually despise it. I despise it so much, Great Digger,

2086
01:44:28,280 --> 01:44:31,400
Speaker 1: I'm gonna need your help with it, buddy. Uh comes Sunday.

2087
01:44:32,439 --> 01:44:41,280
Speaker 1: I'm all booked up. Um Yeah, I like this game. Yeah.

2088
01:44:41,320 --> 01:44:43,880
Speaker 1: You you literally did draft then then decided and I

2089
01:44:43,960 --> 01:44:46,080
Speaker 1: realized I had three early games, and then I was

2090
01:44:46,120 --> 01:44:49,160
Speaker 1: thinking about the shook games and it just getting yourself

2091
01:44:49,200 --> 01:44:51,559
Speaker 1: in trouble got too confusing. He's not running a good

2092
01:44:51,560 --> 01:44:55,360
Speaker 1: war room here. Hey, looks Steelers over the last few weeks. Dan,

2093
01:44:55,840 --> 01:44:59,920
Speaker 1: if you don't mind me, just okay, football outside? Is

2094
01:44:59,920 --> 01:45:03,720
Speaker 1: you now? Sort by week? Which is fun? Since the bye?

2095
01:45:04,520 --> 01:45:10,479
Speaker 1: Since the bye? Ninth in offense and defense? And here's

2096
01:45:10,520 --> 01:45:13,040
Speaker 1: what I really am impressed. But we know Kenny Picketts

2097
01:45:13,080 --> 01:45:16,280
Speaker 1: played better. They're running game has been consistent. They have

2098
01:45:16,400 --> 01:45:19,080
Speaker 1: been pushing people around in the run game. And if

2099
01:45:19,120 --> 01:45:21,200
Speaker 1: they can run the ball, and I think Naja Harris

2100
01:45:21,240 --> 01:45:23,120
Speaker 1: getting hurt might not be the worst thing to meet.

2101
01:45:23,720 --> 01:45:26,920
Speaker 1: Warren and Snell both have a little orange juice. He's

2102
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Speaker 1: good too. But it doesn't matter who's back. There is

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Speaker 1: my main point. They're not a bad offense. I think

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Speaker 1: they're a little more balanced of a team right now

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Speaker 1: than the Falcons are. I like the Steelers to win, alright,

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Speaker 1: there's six against the run also, that's what the Falcons do,

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Speaker 1: and I've started to look at the Falcons. I kind

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Speaker 1: of have been a Falcons supporter, I think quietly this

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Speaker 1: whole season and going back to last year with Arthur Smith.

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Speaker 1: But big game for them. Yeah, you take away the

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Speaker 1: run game and you could just basically guarantee that Marcus Mariota,

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Speaker 1: whether it's his fault or not, Like that interception last

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Speaker 1: week was a tipped ball. But it's like, don't we

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Speaker 1: just at this point, like cookie Cutter, just expect Mario

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Speaker 1: to do something at the end of the game that

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Speaker 1: basically unspoiled the entire operation. They're the most consistent team

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Speaker 1: in the NFL. They're the exact same team every week. Actually,

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Speaker 1: you say, oh, if you can stop the round, no

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Speaker 1: one stops the run. They ran all over even Washington.

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Speaker 1: They're great. They're a truly great running team. We know

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Speaker 1: what Mariota is and their defense is thirty feet in

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Speaker 1: the league in points per drive, giving up at no. Point,

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Speaker 1: have they really shown life defensively? They're the exact same

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Speaker 1: team fully put that loss, and that was a season

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Speaker 1: crushing loss potentially for Atlanta. Just imagine if they win

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Speaker 1: that game. Where they are and the way the NFC

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Speaker 1: South and the Bucks, the pressure on the Bucks. Uh?

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Speaker 1: Why why why are you asking Marcus Mariota to make

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Speaker 1: a game when is that's the What did Jonathan Vilmas say? Uh?

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Speaker 1: Justin grave Digger. What did Vilma say about Corduill Patterson

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Speaker 1: near the goal line? What did he say? Yeah? He

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Speaker 1: said this Christ because he's an absolute terror that nobody

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Speaker 1: wants to tackle. Why are you not giving him three

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Speaker 1: times inside the five? He's gonna score, He's gonna score. Instead,

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Speaker 1: you asked Mariota to make a big play. The guy

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Speaker 1: can't make a big play to save his life, which

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Speaker 1: is why he won't be their quarterback next year. It

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Speaker 1: got me so mad watching that. That's it. I have

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Speaker 1: nothing else to getting better. Skins win this game. They

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Speaker 1: could be tied for first you know, on on Monday

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Speaker 1: night after if the Bucks lose. I'm way more intrigued

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Speaker 1: by a Kenny Pickett than say Taylor Heineck, just because

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Speaker 1: I like watching a rookie quarterback starting to develop and

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Speaker 1: how how that trajectory goes and and he's also I think,

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Speaker 1: you know, Heineke's filling but Pickets in there with other

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Speaker 1: young players who are growing around him, like the Pickens thing.

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Speaker 1: I think is a huge development for them. And what

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Speaker 1: team do you trust to the develop wide receivers more

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Speaker 1: than Pittsburgh. I find them relatively fun to watch. You

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Speaker 1: know what else I find fun developing news, great timing there, Graver,

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Speaker 1: the great Alliance Enthal. It doesn't feel von Miller is

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Speaker 1: heading to injured reserve. Doesn't necessarily end his season, but

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Speaker 1: doesn't mean he's gonna miss the next four games, some

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Speaker 1: big ones, including that Dolphins one coming up in a

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Speaker 1: couple of weeks. We've got a Jets match circle the

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Speaker 1: Jets games is his return. So this is a little

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Speaker 1: bit of a setback. There was he might undergo surgery.

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Speaker 1: We need more information and that if he did undergo surgery,

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Speaker 1: it would be season ending, so we'll find out more.

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Speaker 1: That is the killer for them. Uh toughy, but you

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Speaker 1: know they're in it to win it in January and

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Speaker 1: he's got to get right, so maybe not the worst thing. Hey,

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Speaker 1: great Marcus Mario had a one more stat on him.

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Speaker 1: He has started every game this year he had Falcons.

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Speaker 1: That's right, Okay, so howuch that means he needs to

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Speaker 1: start six more and he starts all seventeen games for

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Speaker 1: the two thousand, twenty two Falcons. That's correct. Alright, Uh,

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Speaker 1: you have something to play for us. Mariota starts seventeen games.

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Speaker 1: I will do one of these shows topless like he

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Speaker 1: has not that that will help nobody. Desmond Ritter, It's

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Speaker 1: time to take a look. Yeah, you need to start

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Speaker 1: rooting against the Falcons because I don't think they're making

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Speaker 1: a change if they keep winning. If they win this game,

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Speaker 1: you're in deep trouble. I think he's got to start

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Speaker 1: wailing on his chest and on some bys and tries.

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Speaker 1: Doesn't rid or ain't playing. Both of those things can

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Speaker 1: be happening at the same time. We'll need to be

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Speaker 1: all right, good stuff. Every game that we just previewed,

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Speaker 1: we will review on Sunday with expert precision and analysis.

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Speaker 1: Thank you everybody for watching and listening, and we will

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Speaker 1: see you on Sunday. But before that, the Friday Fun Show.

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Speaker 1: Make sure you check that out live stream on YouTube

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Speaker 1: and you get getting podcast for him as well. Until

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